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Dennis the Menace Cartoon

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About this Episode

Kevin and Mike examine the 1986 animated series Dennis the Menace, discussing its characters, voice cast, and how it compares to the original 1950s black-and-white live-action TV show and later films. They cover the show's place in 80s cartoon lineups, the music by Haim Saban and Shuki Levy, and the limited home video releases available.

This is the brain, and you're listening to the

GeekCast Radio Network. Yes! Hello and welcome

to the sixty -sixth episode of Tooncast, brought

to you by the Geekcast Radio Network. I'm your

host, DFJ1Mike, and today I'm joined once again

by Kevin Optimus Solo Thompson. Hello, sir. Good

day to you, sir. How are you? I am okay. Just

okay because I've been outside all day working,

so I'm a little bit worn out. Ugh. I didn't get

caught dead outside. Actually, I might if I go

outside, because the heat will kill me. uh...

but uh... today we're going to be talking about

that that lovable laughable brad that always

bugs mister wilson dennis the menace uh... there

is a i don't know if you posted it or if one

of the other bbta people posted on facebook about

uh... asking if we want more news on on voice

actors and voice acting well uh... it's a voice

actors website g I looked at that and I was going

to comment on the thing and I look at it and

I'm like, oh no, I better bite my tongue because

I've been telling them to find that they need

to find one person that that's just like all

they do is just add news to the site whenever

they see stuff or you know out searching for

it I mean obviously it's we're not paying anybody

so it's a little hard to do that but yeah yeah

I voted right away I'm like yes of course we

want we need more news up there because actually

that gets a there's a lot of you know we have

a way to as an administrator you have a way to

view comments on different sections like I can

pull up like a TV show page or TV shows in general

and I can see any comments that are made on any

TV show for that day or for any day and the news

news and voice compares always get the most comments

so it seems like common sense that you know news

is what I wanted a commenting spree the other

day well I I forget which one Well, yeah, I know,

but I forget which one it was. There was one

that I commented on. I said, you're missing something.

Yeah, I saw that, but I don't do Marvel or DC

or whatever it was, so I didn't know. It was

the chick from one of those comic book shows.

It starts with an H, that's all I can remember.

It starts with an H, it's some chick. from like

a superman or batman or one of those types of

things yeah yeah I never comment back oh yeah

no it was um harley quinn one yeah there you

guys are missing um me and sarah who who actually

was the actress that dinner in birds of prey

gotcha um yeah they should have saw that and

I'm assuming that they'll be looking for it yeah

I never comment back on it unless it's something

that I did or something that I was involved with

But I am excited, though. I finally, after months

and months and months of looking, I finally found

a G .I. Joe the Spy Troops movie online. And

it is not anywhere on YouTube, so there's never

been a way for me to find those characters' pictures

and screen cap them and get voice clips and everything

like that. But I finally found a Spy Troops movie

available to view in that. good quality and it's

on it's in some like Japanese site or something

so you can't read anything on the page I know

I hate that you can't even read the DVD control

so I have no idea how to control anything but

it but you know it's in English and it's showing

it fine so I screen kept all those last night

and I'm gonna be adding some more actors to GI

Joe sound or voice compares here in the next

little bit so I was excited about that I still

can't find Valor versus Venom, but I found Spy

Troops and luckily most of the actors are the

same in both of those. Yeah. Yeah, I, um... I'm

trying to think here. Oh, and, well, you're thinking

I just added the G .I. Joe movie since I just

bought it on DVD after searching for four stores

to find it. You said something about ten stores

on Facebook. No, it was only four stores. I went

to Target and Barnes and Noble and Toys R Us

and Best Buy and... I don't know why you just

didn't go to the Shout Factory website and just

buy it from them. Of course, you'd have to wait

to get it, but still. I wanted it immediately,

but I screen capped every character on that and

now it's our largest cast for a movie on BTBA

because it had 52 characters in it, so that spoke.

Well, Snake Eyes didn't speak, but whatever.

Yeah, but now your footlocker set is complete.

Yep, damn right it is. I mean, I still need to

get that. Now I have an empty DVD case that I'm

just gonna, I guess, put on my shelf like it's

there, act like there's a DVD in it. See, that's

the other thing. I mean, I don't understand why

Shout themselves on their website wouldn't just

offer... Just a single DVD. Well, not even that,

but, I mean, just... because there's only once

but i mean it's useless getting the two disk

edition of it because there's only one spot in

in in the full author right right so understand

why chelt factor wouldn't offer like some sort

of special of the right this list the single

-disc and selling selling a computer sleeper

slump or something right you know it's just a

little cheap Yeah, but uh, I haven't watched

the special features on it, but I watched the

movie and it does look very good They did a good

job of uh, you know, whatever they did for restoration

and whatnot But uh, I did not realize that don

johnson was in gi joe the movie I did not realize

that he's a voice of lieutenant falcon. Oh, wow

Makes his first appearance in the gi joe movie

He's only made one appearance in any series since

then but uh, I did not realize it was don johnson

So that's crazy and uh, the other guy who's not

in the gi joe series but makes an appearance

in the movie is uh bird I always say his name

wrong. Burgess Meredith? Yep. The Joker from

the live action Batman shows, he does the voice

of Galobulus. Well, first of all, you got that

wrong. What? What does he do? He does the Joker

or something? No, the Joker was Cesar Romero.

Maybe it's a penguin. Yeah, he was the penguin.

But he's Galobulus in G .I. Joe, that's all that

matters. So that's what I've been doing. Rest

in peace Burgess Meredith It's all about GI Joe

lately at BTBA for me. That's all I gotta say

I don't know if I ever mentioned it though, but

I did on air but I did go through and Screencap

every character from every scooby -doo its TV

series and every scooby -doo movie Yeah, um a

lot of the a lot of the scooby -doo movies will

be covered 65 years in the future And I'm not

saying any more than that Uh, as far as the original

show, the Scooby Doo Where Are You show, we will

be covering that here on Tooncast. Uh, we will

also be covering in that episode 13 Ghosts. So

episode 77, which is 10 episodes from now, that'll

be a pretty big, long episode. It won't be epic

four hour long, like He -Man, but it'll be over

the hour mark that we usually hit or so. Combined

with just TV shows and movies, there's been over

35 things for Scooby -Doo. So it's been a while,

but every single one of them is at BTBA now with

a full cast. Some of the TV shows, I don't have

some of the recurring characters and whatnot,

but all the movies. It's funny to see which voice

actors pop up again and again throughout the

movies, but that's a topic for another day. Another

year. We actually talked with my buddy Mike Dodd

who does this week in geek and all that I was

on their first Well, I was on my first topic

show for that podcast and we were talking about

Iron Man, but they did this segment beforehand

shooting the shit with Sean and their their friends

with Sean Schemmel who was one of the voices

of Goku Dragon Ball Z and after Sean had Had

done his little spiel I linked them to the voice

compare for Goku Just so they could see all the

I listened to some of those and I'm not a DBZ

fan or or a Dragon Ball fan in general It's it's

just my thing, but I listened to some of those

and and me personally I like Ian's version the

best Ian James Corlett that that's just how I

feel A couple months ago, we made about eight

different comments on our Facebook page, not

on our actual site, but on our Facebook page

about our site and the voice comparison and stuff

like that. It was very nice comments, so that

was cool. Yeah, I don't know. Of course, if you

go over to GeekCastRadio .com, if it doesn't

come up immediately, you might have to refresh

the page. I've gotten Steve to, now with the

WordPress version that he uses or the website

design that he uses, Originally, there's supposed

to be a video part at the top of the site where

you first see it. He's altered that to move it

to the right, and we've gone through and gotten

pictures with links to each of the sites that

we kind of not really sponsor, but the sites

that we're partnered with. So, BVTA does have

a little blurb over on our site. It basically

links right to BVTAs. our link up to Lamar's

interview on our front page. I think that's coming

down eventually, but still up there for now.

Yeah, we'll have to get another one. I'm aiming

for a certain something. Well, no, I'm aiming

for a couple of things. One of them is specifically

for you and I to do, but I just have to make

the call and get the information because there

is no email address for. for that person's agent.

So yeah. Do we have anything else we want to

bring up? I think it's time for the devil. So

bring on the history lesson. Alright, episode

six, six, oh no, just two sixes. Yeah, just two,

not three. Devil the Menace, I mean Dennis the

Menace is an American animated series produced

by, of course, Deke Entertainment, based on the

comic strip by, I like this name, Hank Ketchum.

I don't know if I'm saying that right, but that's

how I want to say it. The young blonde boy with

a colic and a mischievous personality, Dennis

the Menace, gets into numerous scrapes and adventures

with his dog, Ruff, and his friends Joey, Margaret,

Gina, Tommy, PB, and Jay. Oh my god. Anyway,

Dennis is an impulsive, angel -faced little devil,

that's why I'm calling him devil, who is always

getting into scrapes, whom I end up tormenting

his hapless next -door neighbor, of course, Mr.

Wilson. Of course Dennis always means well Dennis

finds himself involved in all kinds of wild adventures

some of which are fantasy based Like the international

espionage and trips into the past stories But

always manages to save the day the series was

originally aired on NBC in the US Each half -hour

show consists of three six or seven minute shorts

the show ran from 1986 to 1988 and the show was

sponsored by General Mills So what do you remember

about the the cartoon and of course, I think

we're not We're not going to be able to avoid

making some comparisons between the cartoon and

the live -action show. So what are your thoughts?

Oh, no. We will so definitely talk about the

film. But I love this show. This is such a nice...

This is such a departure from all of the action

stuff that we watch in the 80s. It wasn't anything

like the future Disney cartoons or the turtles

cartoons. It was a nice little thing. And poor

Mr. Wilson. Yeah. Did you watch this a lot as

a kid? I caught episodes here and there. I think

mainly I caught them before school, because it's

a thing. When I was a kid, And of course, you're

only a year behind me, but when I was a kid,

Transformers would air, G1 would air at like

6, 6 .30 in the morning. And then I remember,

of course, over on NBC, Dennis the Menace would

air. I believe Dennis would air in the early

morning hours before I went to school. Think

it kind of went through a same similar thing

to what? Transformers I mean obviously Transformers

originally was an afternoon show But since it

was syndicated, you know, eventually it was everywhere

and I think I remember seeing Transformers in

the morning when it was on the sci -fi channel

Later on I think Dennis the menace did something

similar where I think at first it was an afternoon

type thing or Even a Saturday thing. I don't

remember to a Saturday or afternoons, but then

it got rebroadcast in mornings on different channels

and stuff like that. Yeah. And I always found

it funny that he would constantly, constantly

bug Mr. Wilson. Or their schemes, the kid's schemes

would always interfere with like saying Mr. Wilson

is trying to mow the lawn or he's trying to water

his flowers. And I thought that was really funny.

See, I don't remember watching the show too much

as a kid. I remember seeing it I mean, I definitely

have memories of watching it I watched it at

some point, but it wasn't something that like

we've said a lot of times It wasn't something

that I was gonna like set my schedule around

it wasn't something that I was going to be excited

to Oh, I got to be home by this time or I got

a you know, whatever so I can't miss Dennis the

Menace It was nothing like that. I watched it

occasionally. I wasn't a big fan back in the

day I was a big fan of the original live -action

TV show Dennis the menace the black and white

Version, I don't know when that aired so I think

it was in the 50s 50s somewhere back then Yeah,

I was a big fan of that and I liked the reruns

of that and I loved the characters in that especially

mr. Wilson the guy who played him and the guy

who played Dennis and To me the cartoon Didn't

compare to that and I was a little disappointed

in a way with the cartoon because I was hoping

it would be more like that show and I don't know

I just I'm not a big fan of this cartoon. Wasn't

the cartoon more based off the comic? Yeah it

was and that's probably why I like the show better

than the cartoon I guess because I wasn't a big

fan of the comic either. Yeah. I guess I can

get into the characters and the voice actors

here. You have Dennis Mitchell who was the little

devil boy who was voiced by Brennan Thicke and

yes that is Alan Thicke's son. Yeah it's Alan

Thicke's son and it's a singer Robin Thicke's

brother because Alan Thicke has two kids Brennan

Thicke and Robin Thicke both of which have done

stuff in showbiz obviously and Brennan Thicke

the only other time I've ever seen him in any

of our episodes as Scott Tracker, Matt Tracker's

son on the show Mask. So Brennan Thicke had two

lead roles in the 80s apparently, or not lead

roles, but fairly popular roles. And then you

have Henry Mitchell, who is the father to Dennis

and Alice's husband, voiced by Phil Hartman in

season one and by Maurice LaMarche in season

two. I always, I don't remember, I remember seeing

Henry I don't remember which voice I like better.

I think it's Phil's voice. Well, see, the thing

about this show is first season had 65 episodes

and the second season only had 13 so I guess

it was kind of dying. Well, I think what happened

is it went from a weekday to a Saturday. Oh,

that's why. So 65 episodes was usually a weekday

cartoon, 13 to something like that was a Saturday

cartoon. But I just don't remember, I think the

show was only able, they must have only had it

in their budget to pay for four voice actors.

Because every character seems like it's voiced

by one of four people. And obviously some of

them, like Phil Hartman and Maurice LaMarche

do a couple characters where they both switched

out. But I just honestly don't remember seeing

much. I remember Dennis, His character, I remembered

Mr. Wilson's character, obviously, and I remember

some of the friends. I don't remember his parents

much from the cartoon for some reason. Yeah,

well, see, his mother isn't so much in the cartoon.

Alice isn't so much in the cartoon, maybe every

now and then. Like, normally it would open up

with... Episodes opened up in different ways.

They would sometimes open up with, like, say,

The Mitchells at Breakfast, and you would see...

Henry and Alice and Dennis and and rough obviously

rough as the dog and That's pretty much all you

would see of the parents unless it was like a

little epilogue after The adventure ended and

maybe he needed to be scolded or something or

maybe they need to teach him some sort of lesson

kind of thing at the end before the episode ends

uh... again i i'm going off my very very sketchy

right of the cartoon so but i do remember seeing

the parents not uh... and again is is the cartoon

is more bay is more for dennis versus wilson

right you know dennis versus mister wilson so

uh... right so so basically besides Dennis and

his parents and obviously we all know mr. Wilson's

character. I mean we don't need to necessarily

Describe that he's just the neighbor who's always

getting terrorized by Wilson, but some of the

characters maybe we can talk about That people

wouldn't be familiar with our as friends obviously

you have Dennis or mr. Wilson's wife Who actually

enjoys Dennis company, but yeah, which one of

the friends do you remember the most? Um, or

did you like the most story? Yeah, I'll just

go through a quick description of each one of

you for the listeners We got Joey McDonald who

is basically Dennis's best friend. We got Tommy

Anderson who's another best friend Margaret Wade,

who's basically Dennis' nemesis. Wow, that's

hard to say. A goody -goody girl in the neighborhood.

Gina Galati, Dennis' tomboyish yet warm and feminine

friend. PB Kappa, who's the friend and resident

genius and technology freak. And then Jay Weldon,

who is Dennis' too tall friend who loves to play

basketball. And you said PB? Yeah, PB. Because

he reminds me. Well, of course, Donatello wasn't

around yet. But when Turtles did come out, I

would watch this in between because this ran

from 86 to 88 and turtles started in 87 so yeah

PB because he kind of reminded me of Donatello,

but he was more of a of a like Hold your nose

up here, you know kind of turn your nose up to

other people I mean he was like some sort of

super genius, but he was like he was like that

rich gotcha person type of at least that's the

way I remember the voice I could be wrong that's

that sounds right based on who's doing the voice

all these characters are either voiced by Jeannie

Elias Marilyn Lightstone Donna Christie Louis

Valance or Louise Valance and then of course

Phil Hartman and Maryse LaMarche but Marilyn

Lightstone which which is the voice of PB is

most in my mind most recognizable as, you're

not gonna like this, but the character Crasher

from Challenger the Gobots, which was, I know

you don't like go -bots, but this is a pretty

recognizable voice. Crasher was like the female

bad go -bot. Oh yeah. And that voice sounds familiar

to what you're describing with PB. Yeah. So I

mean she has just kind of that... I don't know,

it's a very distinct voice. I'm very surprised

about one of these characters as far as the voice

acting because Ruff, the Mitchell's family dog,

was not, wait, wait, hold on, was not voiced

by Frank Welker. Yeah, it's the first dog I've

seen that's not voiced by either Dan Messick

or Frank Welker. It was voiced by Phil Hartman

in season one and Maurice LaMarche in season

two. It's funny, Dennis, or not Dennis, Henry

Mitchell, George Wilson, and Ruff were all voiced

by Phil Hartman and then Maurice LaMarche. Good

thing that LaMarche could imitate all of Hartman's

voices or sounds or whatever you want to call

it. Not a very big voice cast. Besides LaMarche

and Hartman, there's a lot of people that...

We're into voice acting but don't have tons and

tons of you know Iconic credits, you know to

their credit but a Decent voice cast Brendan

thick I forgot to mention did get nominated for

an award for his role on the show as a young

artist Award or something for his voice acting

but very very kind of unique voice cast on the

show Yeah, it was and again. It was one of those

80s I mean you know I caught for the truth the

script obviously people can't see this, but I

copied and pasted the the IMDB Cast list and

all of all the people that are listed in the

cast and IMDB that they're all listed as additional

voices, and you just don't know but as far as

the weirdest thing, sorry to cut you off, but

the weirdest thing about this show is usually

once you get to the, I mean you always have your

standard characters which are assigned to a person

and then you have all your additional voices

who don't usually get credit for individual character

names, but usually in your additional voices

that's where you see all these different names

pop up of people that you know. Because this

is where the big -time famous voice actors show

up in almost all... I mean, if you look at Smurfs

or something like that and look at additional

voices, it's like a who's who of voice actors.

And why I said this is unique is because none

of the additional voices are people I've even

heard of. I know. I don't recognize any of them.

And I see a lot of voice actors' names every

single day. Good lord, I there's maybe one or

two at the most that I recognize and none of

them are famous famous voice actors Nope, and

that's very weird to see on a show Yeah, it is

So this is just a unique small cast small main

cast and unknown additional cast Yeah, what I

was gonna say about the main cast is though it's

almost like the Like the Transformers and G .I.

Joe and Mask and Thundercats and Voltron Syndrome

of the 80s where you have one or two people that

can voice like three or four different voices.

I was watching TFCon 2009's video of Dan Gilbazan

because he was at their convention last year

and he said, because obviously he was talking

about Transformers, He said that they would pay

you For three characters, they would pay you

the same amount for doing three separate characters

Well, not not the same one. They would pay you

each amount for three You get what I mean? Yeah,

they basically couldn't they couldn't some shows

or sometimes they couldn't do more than that

or they had to spread it out so you couldn't

have you know So more people could have a job

basically Yeah, exactly and and I think that's

what this show suffers from, not really suffers

from, but I think that's why this show you see

so many people reprising their, not reprising,

but doing all the roles, is I think it was also

a part of that, of that era of voice acting.

I was wondering how much Frank Welker got paid

for the Transformers though. Because he played

way more than three roles. I don't know if he'll

ever answer the question, but if we ever get

an interview with him, you can ask him. How did

they figure the pay scale for him on Transformers?

You did 800 characters, so we're just going to

give you credit for three. How the rest are you

going to be uncredited for? That's so funny.

Before we leave the voice acting in the cast,

I'm going to say something that's going to get

me shot. I hate saying this, but I really did

not care for the voice acting of Mr. Wilson in

this. What? I know it's Phil Hartman. I don't

necessarily, I'd have to watch episodes to see

if, you know, what LaMarche sounded like. But

I was so attached to the voice of Mr. Wilson

in the black and white show, the TV show that

this is not that voice. And for some reason that

bugged me. I can bear, I can handle the live

-action movie voice, okay? Let's not get into

that just yet. We're gonna save that to the end

of the show. But I just, for some reason in the

actual cartoon, I don't care for how they voiced

Mr. Wilson. I know I'm probably gonna get stuff

thrown at me for that, but I just don't. Don't

care for it. I do like Dennis, though. I do like

his voice. Blast for me. Just blast for me. I

know. This is episode 66. Yeah, that is true.

This is episode 66. We have no production segment

this week. People directed it. People wrote for

it. We didn't recognize a single person on the

writing or the directing credits. The actual

show... I guess we can go into that. It's pretty

much Dennis's adventures and his, you know, always

interfering with Mr. Wilson. You know, whether

it's him, whether his adventure interrupts Mr.

Wilson mowing the lawn or watering his flowers

or baking a pie or taking a nap or starting his

car. Whatever adventure the kids came up with.

I'm sure it found some way to get into George's

life. Yeah. And like you, like we should mention,

I guess you were saying that to me out there,

but basically there is no continuity in this,

in the actual show here. I mean, you're, you're

basically seeing like many things in the eighties.

It's, it's a one shot stuff and there's kind

of like a formula that they're going to be following

episode after episode after episode. I mean,

obviously the stories are all different, but

the gist of it's the same. Yeah. You know, it

starts off something innocent, Dennis gets involved

somehow, terrorizes Mr. Wilson, you know, even

if he doesn't mean to or whatever, and ends up

saving the day somehow in the end. I mean, basically,

that's what you see every episode. You know,

thinking back on this show and thinking back

about the rivalry between him and what's -her

-face Margaret, it's pretty much kid stuff. Yeah,

oh, it's it's kid. I believe Dennis is supposed

to be what? Maybe seven or eight something like

that some like you know like like you know that

around that age seven eight maybe nine And of

course all seven eight nine year olds Nobody

likes girls yet Everybody has cooties You know

in in in boys cases. We like building forts,

and we like you know doing Causing problems.

We like getting into mischief. Maybe you did.

Anyways. Terrorizing people. Yeah. But I mean

it did add a little time in this the way that

the show differs from other things about Dennis

Masses You you know the friends are basically

the main the main difference here in it I guess

if you're a kid watching it you should be able

to relate to it through the Relationships that

the different kids are having with each other

the rivalries the likes the dislikes etc But

I just I just don't care for the show that much

excellent So getting into the music segment here,

um, I love this theme song Don't ask me why but

just the the music the instrumental on the back

of this theme song Just kind of got me into the

cartoon Yeah, the theme song is not bad on this.

It's not one of my favorites, but it's definitely

not I wouldn't say it's a bad theme song Yeah,

it's a good theme song. It's a good theme song.

Just not one of my favorites And then there's

everything about the show for me is it's good,

but just not one of my favorites We've got some

familiar names with the music. Yes, we do. And

we're not responsible for that sound effect.

What sound effect? That is no sound effect. That's

real. What are you talking about? That wasn't

manufactured by Diet Coke. Yes, Power Rangers

people, Shooky, Levi, and Ham Saban did the series

original music. Which, honestly, this is one

of those shows that There really is no serious

original music. I mean every time you see like

like say Dennis Doing his like maybe it's like

a skateboard jump down the street or down the

sidewalk you hear the the The part of the theme

song. Yeah, like that down down, you know, whatever

that first, you know part of the same song the

same thing with you know, like like say Beast

Wars or What's another cartoon I can attribute?

Mask, you know, so yeah I guess getting into

the legacy segment here. We have some home video

on June 2nd 1993. Holy crap These four NTSC VHS

tapes were released by CBS Fox video Dennis's

great adventure Animal Annex, Boys Will Be Boys,

and Spies, Robbers, and Ghosts. Basically each

one has about four or five episodes on it. Yeah.

And on March 18th, 2008, Fox Home Entertainment

released a select seven episode DVD entitled

Dennis the Menace Trouble Trouble Trouble Everywhere.

And I think there was one too many troubles in

that, but anyway. That's right. There's one too

many sixes in our numbers too. Or one fewer six.

Yeah, one fewer six more trouble one fewer six

Yeah, this this DVD contains episodes Dennis

in Venice May and mayhem the big candied apple

a royal pain Dennis and the kangaroo cavalry

Dennis plasters Pamplona and and black and blue

Hawaii. Okay, then So nothing as far as like

seasons or nothing like a complete series, but

you can get a couple episodes on DVD if you want

to. Yeah. I don't think you're going to see much

more than that. I don't know. I would have to

find out who the rights holder is. I know that

there was an interview that Mike Dodd did over

at This Week in Geek with one of the VPs over

at Mill Creek Entertainment. And I believe I'd

have to go back and listen to the interview.

But I believe this person said that they have

a lot of the Deek Library. So maybe Mill Creek

will put out DVDs for Dennis? I don't know. Or

put out more DVDs for Dennis. You know, if it

does come to a complete series, you know, I think

this is another one of those cartoons where you

don't absolutely have to have in your collection,

but it would be a nice addition to a DVD collection,

especially a cartoon collection. but it's not

something uh... you know it did it's not like

gummy bears or uh... alvin and the chipmunks

or something that other ones are more important

to have first it's more important for you to

add other to your collection before adding this

one we should just retitle this episode episode

six six six because that's all you're giving

me here is hate sorry it's just basically this

is my thoughts here There's been multiple things

based on this whole Dennis Jimenez character,

and I think the character is good. I think the

whole idea between a young kid and basically

tormenting a next door neighbor is an excellent

idea. I can't believe it wasn't done more often.

But you know, we've had comic strips. We've had

a live action black and white TV show. We've

had a cartoon, basically animated show. We've

had movies, live action movies or whatever you

want to call those things. And we've had all

these different incarnations of this Dennis the

Menace character. And I just, for me, this isn't

my favorite version out of all of those versions.

If this was a show about the black and white

live action TV show, you'd be getting only praise

from me and no hate. Well, see, that's the thing,

though. There's one problem with that. Not animated.

This is a cartoon vodgast. I know, but in comparison,

usually I like the cartoon version better than

the live -action version, but not in this situation.

This is like having the Brady Bunch cartoon here.

It can't compare to the live -action show, so

it's gonna be a failure, in my opinion. There

was a Brady Bunch cartoon? Yes. Okay, I didn't

know that but having the Beatles cartoon even

though the Beatles aren't a live -action TV show

That's a rock group, and you can't just having

a cartoon You know it's just like it's that type

of thing where? Many times the cartoon does not

live up to the live -action show Okay, um so

since we are in the legacy segment. I guess we'll

bring up the live -action film which starred,

I forget what the little kid's name was that

played Dennis, but starred Walter Mathau as Mr.

Wilson and Christopher Lloyd as the villain.

Yes. What did you think of Walter Mathau's portrayal

of George Wilson? I liked his portrayal of George

Wilson, not as much as the black and white TV

show, but I did like it better than the cartoon

version of Mr. Wilson, just because they did

pick the right guy. Out of all the people they

could have picked to play that role, having one

of the grumpy old men play it was a good idea,

in my opinion. And I'm trying to think now, the

name of the kid is Mason Gamble? I've never heard

of him. I don't have any idea. The name of the

kid back in the day was Jay North, just for the

record. I have to throw that out there. It's

all about the back in the day for me today. Yeah,

no. I like Matho in this. Or in the film. In

the film, yeah. I think that they made the film...

a little bit too realistic. They pretty much

made, and I don't know if this is because it

was Walter Mathau, but just the things that Dennis

got into in the film, and the way he tortured

Mr. Wilson in the film, I think was way too over

the top. Gotcha. I think everything about the

movie was a little over the top for me, and that's

one drawback from it. I think they did a good

job of casting in the movie. And whatnot, but

yeah, I think you're right. Like a lot of the

times when they've been making these retro live

-action movies, they've been going over the top.

You know, with a lot of the stuff that we've

seen lately. Yeah. Yeah. So I think we're going

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to Tooncast! So, final thoughts on Dennis the

Menace? Well, you know my final thoughts. You

know, it was what it was. It had its spot in

the 80s, which is why we're talking about it.

And I think Dennis the Menace as a character

was worthy of having a cartoon made out of it.

It could have been worse, but in my opinion it

could have been better There's too many other

cartoons in the 80s that were this type of cartoon

for me that I liked better and what I mean this

type basically to me as a Kid there was only

basically two types of cartoons. There was the

action adventure You know boy cartoons, and then

there was the fun comedy type. You know just

Overall friendly cartoons like Garfield or Heathcliff

or Dennis the Menace or gummy bears or you know

that type of cartoon and to me I would have rather

watched most of those other ones other than you

know rather than this so You know the thought

just occurred to me the whole time We've been

talking about this today, and you keep bringing

up the original black and white television show

You know what you sound like You sound like a

hardcore G1 fan that keeps saying I don't care

if it's not G1 it doesn't matter No, because

there's a lot of other things that I don't necessarily

like the original as much, but this is one where

the original is the best. It's like Lassie. You

can't redo Lassie and have it somewhere else.

Well, and the other thing is you really can't...

See, that's the thing. It deserved to have a

cartoon. What? I think it deserved having a cartoon

version. It's a good enough character and setting

to have a cartoon version. It just doesn't equate

to the original. And the other thing is you've

got to realize, much like, I mean that's like

comparing Superman the Animated series to the

old George Reeves live -action Superman... I

would probably like the cartoon better on that.

What? I would probably like the cartoon version

better on that. Okay, well, but what I'm saying

is the point is... They're so different. The

point is, one, is a live -action television program

in the 1960s. This is an animated cartoon in

1986. Yes, there are comparisons. Yes, the characters

are sort of the same. And, you know, I mean,

there's still two different mediums. I mean,

you know, we make constant comparisons between

cartoons and live action films and stuff like

that are upcoming. Like when we did the Alvin

and the Chipmunks episode, we talked about, you

know, the live action chipmunks or CGI chipmunks

movies and all that stuff. So, I mean, you know,

there is a way to compare them, but Don't think

me personally. I don't think you can compare

an original 50s 60s television show to the cartoon

counterpart because you're constantly gonna find

either ways Good or bad either either way, but

I don't know So if you had to put I'm gonna make

you do it if you had to put them in order Original

black and white TV show Dennis Menace cartoon

Dennis Menace live -action movies Which one's

the best and which one's the worst? Well seeing

as how I've only seen maybe an episode and a

half of the original 60s show, I would say, this

is just me, I know Kevin's gonna faint out or

curse me out or do something. For me personally,

because I had a connection to the cartoon, I

would put the cartoon first, I would put the

original TV show second, and I would put the

film third. I'm fine with that. I'm fine with

that. I was about to send the devil after you

since this is... But no, I think that's legitimate,

you know, especially if you have a connection

to the cartoon, you know, I would obviously switch

around the one and two, but as long as you were

putting the movies last on... Well, the other

thing is that, was there another movie after

the first one? Because I don't... I thought there

was, but I'm not... I mean, it might have been

one of those direct -to -video things. Yeah.

You know how they... The movie came out in 93,

I think. Yeah, 93. You're right. And I don't

I don't think it did good enough to I Don't know

there's there's like Dennis the menace strikes

again in 98, but I don't know what that was.

It just says video It was probably a direct to

video. There was of course was another all -new

Dennis menace TV series in 96 And then there's

been another direct to video that Dennis the

menace Christmas in 2007 Yeah So, besides that

other series, I don't think it's really had much

else. No. i'm a big fan thank you so much for

re -exciting my love for my childhood well you're

welcome yay yay i also have to give a shout out

to someone who sent me a direct email i don't

remember ever giving the email out but maybe

they find it found it through uh... i don't know

through the the cast website or something like

that but uh... basically they want me they they

sent me a so they were up to episode seven so

far uh... And they want me to have my own show.

Glen Hubert, I'm giving a shout out to him for

the positive comments he sent me. But at least

he's listening, you know, up through episode

seven. I hope he keeps listening. Yeah. And I

will say that the audio quality does get better

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