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Aladdin Franchise

About this Episode
Three years ago, we took you on a magical journey
under the sea. Last year, we took you to a place
where a beautiful girl looked into the heart
of a beast and found the man of her dreams. Now,
come with us and enter a whole new world beyond
your imagination, where a boy discovers a magic
lamp and a genie who can make all his dreams
come true. Ten thousand years will give you such
a crick in the neck! So what'll it be, master?
I must have hit my head harder than I thought.
Walt Disney Pictures presents Aladdin. You're
a genie? That's right. He can be taught. You'll
never feel like me. Imagine a whole new world
of excitement. A magic carpet. Danger. Whoa,
carpet, let's move! And enchantment. It's the
story of a poor boy from the streets and a beautiful
girl from a palace. Princess Jasmine. They were
two very different people. The law says you must
be married to a prince. Brought together by one
incredible wish. What is it you want most? There's
this girl. Pretty. Beautiful. Say, Lamon. But
she's the princess. To even have a chance, I'd
have to be, say the magic words, genie. I wish
for you to make me a prince. All right! Hang
on to your turban, kid. We're gonna make you
a star! But the evil sorcerer Jafar has learned
the secret of Aladdin's power. He has the lamp.
And he'll stop at nothing to steal it away. It's
time to say goodbye. We'll just see about that.
This is not done yet, boy! Imagine the world
at your command. Jeannie, I need help. Jasmine
won't even let me talk to her. No! Only to discover
the greatest power is within. Remember, be yourself.
Do you trust me? A whole new world! Don't you
dare close your eyes. Aladdin. Featuring six
new songs from the Academy Award -winning composer
of The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast.
Come over here, big group hug. Group hug, never!
Never! Coming this holiday season Walt Disney
Pictures Aladdin Hello and welcome to the 31st
episode of Tooncast brought to you by the Geekcast
Radio Network. I'm your host if you're on mic
and today I'm joined once again by Kevin from
Mr. Boss and K -Dog Thompson. Hello. How's it
going? Pretty good, how are you? Alright, thanks
a lot. Today we are going to be continuing the
Disney animation spotlight. We took a little
break for the holidays where we talked, I believe
that episode ran three hours, 27 minutes and
52 seconds. And even without the audio, even
without the additional audio that I put in for
each of the shows, the conversations that we
had totaled two hours, 36 minutes. Today like
I said, we're continuing the Disney Animation
Spotlight with the Aladdin franchise So what
or how you been? What are you been up to? Actually,
I just did a thing where I went through and allied,
or a combination of both, watching the episode,
looking at the official script dialogue from
Transformers, and doing a lot of allying and
stuff like that. And I have basically totaled
every character in Transformers 1. From people
that have no lines to the person that has the
most lines, I actually have specific numbers
of how many lines they have per episode, per
season, and then total for the entire G1. And
I'm going to be incorporating that into something
with BehindTheWayFactors .com, but that does
a lot of work. Yeah, I would imagine so. Optimus
Prime has the most with 1 ,400 lines. I mean,
that's not the exact amount, but I don't remember
what I have it all written down, but in the 1400s
is how many lines you had over the series. Wow.
Yeah, I plan on getting that set probably by
February, hopefully. It's actually funny, TV
shows on DVD .com just released a news article
today. uh... shout factory releasing seasons
three and four of the single sets it's going
to be season three and season four in one set
and they are ahead artwork for it and it's rather
missed uh... holding the matrix like it's open
with galvatron pretty much underneath him uh...
unicron's head to the side and then cyclonus
to the other side so that's pretty cool but i
i still just want the big set i don't want to
have by the individual ones Even though it is
the same thing. I just I want the matrix damn
it Yeah By the time this episode actually airs
it will be five days after Christmas So we have
probably already opened all of our gifts by the
time you're gonna hear this Really isn't too
much else going on We've hopefully had a good
Christmas. You know, they're a good Christmas.
Yeah Just don't get too drunk on New Year's So,
yeah, all right, well we are going to Take a
break. We'll be right back with a lead Salam
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is inside that counts. This is no ordinary lamp!
It once changed the course of a young man's life.
A young man who liked this lamp was more than
what he seemed. A diamond in the rough. Perhaps
you would like to hear the tale? It begins on
a dark night. Where a dark man waits with a dark
purpose. We are back, and it is time for the
history lesson. Take it away, Professor. Alright,
Aladdin is a 1992 American animated adventure
film produced obviously by Walt Disney, feature
animation. It is the 31st. animated feature in
the Walt Disney animated classic series. The
film was directed by John Metzger and Alan Clements
and is based on the air folk tale of Aladdin
and the Magic Land from One Thousand and One
Nights. The lyrics of Power of Ashman first pitch
the idea and the screenplay had to go through
three drafts before Disney President Jeffrey
Capito greenlighted the production. The musical
score was written by Alan Menken and features
six songs with lyrics written by both Ashman
and Tim Rice, who took over after Ashman's death.
Aladdin was released on November 26, 1992, two
days after my birthday. It's a positive review,
despite some criticism from Arabs who consider
the film racist, and it was the most successful
film of 1992, earning over $217 million in revenue
in the U .S. and over $504 million worldwide.
The film also won many awards, most of them for
its soundtrack. Before we get into the general
memories, I just have to bring up something.
We had discussed off -air how we're gonna continue
the Disney animation spotlight after this four
episode set of Aladdin Sword in the Stone Oliver
and Company and Jungle Book And you mentioned
that it was the 31st film in the Disney lineup
Well, you know 31st film 31st episode. I didn't
even plan it that way Oh, the other thing we
were going to mention, and I kind of forgot,
since we're doing all this Disney spotlight,
for those of you listening, we went with Snow
White and Cinderella right off the bat, Snow
White being lower on some of the worst. And now
we are changing up and going with some of our
favorites. So we did some of the original ones,
and now we're doing some of our favorites. And,
you know, later on we'll get into more Disney
stuff, obviously. It was Snow White and Sleeping
Beauty. Cinderella's not that much better. Yeah,
we're going with some of our favorites, and honestly
Aladdin is one of my favorites. I'm not saying
that it isn't, but The Sword and the Stone and
Oliver and Company. were you know back then before
Aladdin even came out those two films back you
know again it all goes back to when we were growing
up in the eighties I never knew that half these
films were made before I was born I thought the
same thing you know I I don't know if you had
a chance to listen to episode 21 before you were
had gotten no longer interactions but you know
television and I said Matt you know the same
thing with the Flintstones and Jensen's the Flintstones
I never knew it was made before my time. I thought
I was running Ken Curran as I was growing up.
Same thing with these and that's why I picked
out those two as my favorites and I believe Jungle
Book is Jungle Book one of your favorites? Jungle
Book and Aladdin are probably. I'd have to really
look at things if I was going to actually come
up with a list and give numbers out. Aladdin
and Jungle Book are hard to beat. I love Aladdin.
I think what was cool about Aladdin was the fact
that even though like the other ones all felt
like they were new like I remember just having
like movie nights where we'd watch Disney Channel
or you know my parents would have rented a Disney
video or whatever we'd have you know popcorn
sitting on the couch and you know it was stuff
like Heuristic Cat and you know Jungle Book and
it all felt new to me. The thing with Aladdin
though it has that extra aura of not only did
it feel new but this is like even in the theater
you know what I mean like this is like it's in
the theater it's happening and it's like so much
Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, actually it's very funny
home I actually got in trouble the night that
this premiered My dad was gonna go take me and
my cousin to see it and I got in trouble So we
couldn't go so I actually had a chance to see
this the night it premiered in theaters But it
didn't happen because I remember the blitz. I
remember the media blitz and the buzz on this
movie there were lines at movie theaters out
the door around the block six blocks down straight
I guarantee you anybody that remembers you know
I believe it was I could have sworn it was Christmas
Day not November 25th but I don't know I could
be wrong but anyway I remember you know hearing
people say oh my god the line was out the door
but the movie was so great and blah blah blah
The reason you probably don't remember is because
it came, even though it came out in November,
it didn't really become like super popular until
the week after Christmas. Right, yeah. It was
a week between Christmas and New Year's where
this thing just like solidified across and became
what it was. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Just great characters,
great voice acting, I mean, you know. You can't...
There's not much bad you can say about this.
No, not at all. I have nothing wrong... I don't
even think I have anything wrong with the story
other than the fact that Jafar is just creepy.
I mean, he is probably... I have one thing I
just watched going through, going through it
again. I actually just finished watching it,
re -watching it. And I was even trying to be
picky. I'm like, I don't want this to sound like
I'm just like all over Aladdin and it's the greatest
thing ever. So I'm like, I'm gonna watch this.
and try to take it apart and try to find something
and I maybe found one thing and we'll get to
that later but it's like one tiny little detail
on the whole movie is all I could come up with
when I was trying to look for stuff. Normally
when I don't like films or when I don't like
cartoons or whatever I will you know I'll sit
at my computer and I'll watch them because that's
what I use is I use my computer as a DVD player
and you know If it's something that just isn't
captivating my interest, you know, I'll sit there
and I will watch like 45 minutes or, you know,
say you take, you know, a two hour movie. I'll
sit there and watch 45 minutes, pause it, go
do something else, come back to it, you know,
an hour or so later, and start it up where I
left off. But with this, when I was watching
it the night before, last night before we did
this recording, I sat through it all the way
through. didn't pause it, didn't have to get
up, didn't have to do anything. I went and I
got a soda and I sat down and I watched it the
whole way through and it is just a great, great
film. And it's actually a really quick hour and
a half. I think it's 90 minutes or 92 minutes
or something like that, but it literally goes
by super fast, in my opinion. You sit down and
watch it and you're like, I don't know. Maybe
because it has no full parts of the jar was entertained,
but you're finished watching it and it seems
like it was like a half hour And it was actually
an hour and a half, you know, normally on some
films I will say they took too long or some things
dragged out too much or they didn't they They
didn't take enough time. It ended too quick.
Like the like the pacing was way too fast in
this film I didn't feel it took too long, and
I didn't feel it wrapped up too quick. It was
a cursive. Right. And I think another thing was,
at least maybe from, you know, I'm trying to
come at it from an unbiased opinion here, but
I think part of it has to do with I was the perfect
age when this came out, too. Because I was 11.
I had just turned 11 when this came out. And,
you know, an 11 -year -old boy, going to see
a Disney movie, a lot of them you would want
to go see as an 11 year old boy because you're
starting to get maybe too cool for some of the
Disney fairy tale type stuff and Aladdin was
just perfect. You could let your guard down and
be watching a Disney fairy tale type movie and
not You know, not that you're really that worried
at 11 about your, you know, stuff like that,
but you can just let your guard down and have
some fun with it because not only was it the
Disney stuff that you grew up with and kind of
liked like that, but it was cool for guys. Like,
it was just a cool, you know, humor you had,
fighting, and it was just like, it was perfect
for, you know, like a 9th and 11th, 12th year
old boy. Right. I guess we can go into the characters
and cast and voice actors and all that stuff.
Just great. Go ahead. And one thing before we
start mentioning a couple of names, it's a big
step for, I mean on Tooncast we do a lot, obviously
we do mostly cartoon series that were aired on
TV, you know, half hour increments, stuff like
that. What we've been showing in these animated
movies. And this is really a turning point for
those animated movies, because this is going
to be the first time where you have a major mix
of not only voice actors that we talk about every
week on Tooncast, you know, the cartoon voice
actors, but now you bring in famous voice actors,
which everybody probably takes for granted and
probably thinks that's just how it's always been
done, but really Aladdin is where that started.
Before Aladdin, you didn't have big name people
doing animated work in movies and this is what
starts that and since this movie it seems like
it's been the norm on every other movie but this
is a perfect example of a mixture of both big
name people and your classic cartoon voice actors.
I mean outside of the Aladdin name being the
name of the film and being the name of the main
character The first thing that pops out to me,
and should pop out to anybody, the actor's name,
Robin Williams as the Genie. I mean, you know,
Robin Williams had top billing on this film.
He just does. pretty famous at the time, even
though he doesn't have that famous name, he was
not an awful official. He was popular at the
time. So you have those three that are just like,
boom, you know the people. If you see them, you
know who they are. You know the name. And then
you pair that with, you know, like Jim Cummings
and Frank Welker. And it's just like, it's the
best of both worlds. Right. And I, you know,
I You know, it's funny, since I started this
show, or since we started this show, I always
look for... I've been looking for animal sounds
now. Trying to figure out who is who. Now, unfortunately,
I could have sworn that a certain voice actor,
who I will mention here in a minute, was also
the voice of the tiger, but he's not, unfortunately.
But Frank Welker plays Abu. Just awesome. And
actually one thing I learned when I was doing
my stuff at BehindTheVoiceActors .com with Frank
Welker, I had been going through and finding
all his voices on all the different cartoons
and whatnot. And I had kind of ignored the movie
because I didn't realize he was in movies. Like
I didn't know he had done voice work in animated
movies. And once I started getting turned on
to looking at what movies he's been in, it seems
like every Disney movie of my lifetime, obviously
not the ones from the 50s or whatever, but all
the Disney movies that have come out since I've
been alive, he's been in them somehow. And it's
always an animal character or this or that, and
I just never knew he had been in all those. And
actually, today watching it, I never had realized
that he was the Cave of Wonders boy. He was see
I didn't know never I knew he was you know I
knew he was a blue and Raja, but I never knew
He was the cave of wonders and I'm watching it
today, and I'm like that voice. I'm like who?
That's and I'm looking at my sheet, and I'm like
that is Frank Walker I actually now have something
to add to his page on that And then of course
you know and see I didn't know I see I thought
I could have sworn when I was doing research
for this or No, it was when I was watching the
credits, I was looking for the names. I was looking
for the names of the... because I have the Tudis
Platinum Edition DVD of this. Looking for the
credits and the names because I wanted to know
who voiced Apu. Er, not Apu, that's... Apu. Not
Apu. Yes, we are not at the Quiggy Mart, you
cannot have a slushie. Um... Um, Apu... It did
not list him in the credits on the DVD as the
tiger. And that's why I said a second ago that
I was surprised that he wasn't the voice of that
animal, but apparently he is. Yeah, he is. But
he's not credited on the DVD as being so. And
I don't think he's credited for being the case
of wonders either. I think he only gets credited
for a boob, but looking online he does do the
voices of all three of those. I just never knew
about the case of wonders. Something interesting
about Frank Welter is that we don't usually get
too much into what we have written down for the
voice actors, but a couple things I found interesting,
and it says that in the three years it took to
record the film, Frank Welter never met Aladdin
or Scott Wanger or Robin Williams. So that's
kind of the... In fact, I went through that whole
thing and never had the need either one of those
two. And I can't be for certain on this, but
I think Disney's process or, you know, is they
record each actor. They don't do an ensemble
like a lot of other shows do. Like if you look
at Justice League and Justice League Unlimited,
Andrea Romano, who is the voice director for
those cartoons, she brings in seven, all seven
actors or eight actors or however many people,
and they record ensembles. So they're all in
the room together saying the lines back and forth.
You know, and I don't know if Disney does that
process. I think that they do it, you know, they
bring one actor into a booth, have them record
the lines, and then they, you know, on and on
and on. It'd be kind of cool to find out if it
was Ensemble. Obviously it really isn't for this
film because if Welker never met them. Yeah,
or maybe it was for just certain things. A couple
other things, probably what's funny is in order
to secure Robin Williams, it says that They actually
recorded a whole thing. They animated the genie
doing a bunch of Robin Williams stand -up and
send it to him. They tried to entice him to do
it and he apparently thought it was hilarious
and came on board. We'll get more into Robin
Williams a little bit later. I got two other
things just with the characters. One is the Sultan.
I've never realized that that character was somewhat
inspired in The Wizard of Oz. It was kind of
having that bumbling authority figure. I thought
that was kind of interesting. And the other one
I got, I gave another shout out or nod to Jim
Cummings because I never realized that was him
until today. And then watching when Razul, the
captain of the guard, things like that. He has
a very famous voice and sure enough, we have
Jim Cummings, so it was just an awesome job.
specifically wanted to watch the credits last
night when I watched the film to see who voiced
who because as everybody knows and I've said
this before I don't because I do all the the
behind -the -scenes technical crap for this show
I don't read the scripts I don't look through
the information before we do records I just don't
because sometimes I like to be surprised you
know isn't who's in water what's in who and he
is not listed in the credits as far as I can
tell now maybe I didn't Let the credits play
far enough down to see, but he is not listed
as the voice of... The voice of Razul, as far
as I can tell from what parts of the credits
I did see, isn't even listed. Maybe I need to
go back and look through the credits again on
the DVD, but, you know, just... Overall great
characters as far as mr.. Godfried. Oh my god
is Iago He actually will fin the animator tried
to incorporate some aspects of Godfried's appearance
into Iago's design especially his semi -closed
eyes and the always appearing teeth um which
Again, it just goes to show you how much these
animators go to bringing the voice actors to
life in the animation And a lot of times, since
Robin Williams did improv on a lot of this stuff,
they'd have to wait to see what he was going
to say first and then go back and animate to
his voice and to his line. So I mean, the animators
in this one should have been commended big time
because this had to be a challenge to do this.
I mean, it had to be a lot of fun, but it had
to be a big time challenge to do this as well.
I got one thing. We always ask this question,
and usually it's a fairly easy question to answer.
But I think it would be maybe super hard to answer.
So I want to ask you first so I can have another
second to think about it. But do you have a favorite
character? Well, Jafar would be my least favorite.
Jafar is just... He's a creepy... I'm trying
to think of the right word. He's a creepy non
-dwarf. old man basically take one of the seven
dwarfs you know stretch them out to be about
six foot whatever and that's Jafar. I mean he
is single -handedly outside of Maleficent I think
he is single -handedly the worst Disney villain
ever. Meaning like scariest like badass? Yep,
scary but he's gonna shoot your ass off. Okay,
so not like bad like they did a bad job No, I
mean, no, I don't know when I say single worst
villain ever in Disney I mean the baddest of
the bad villains like, you know He and Maleficent
should go fucking get married and and and have
a evil thorny castle in the in the woods I think
that's a given. I would have to say Jafar is
my least favorite too and I hate doing that because
it's just like the easy answer. I especially
dislike him when he's an old man disguised in
the prison jail cell. That's especially creepy.
You know, I hate to call him the main bad guy
as my lead favorite character, but I don't know
how you pick anybody else in this movie as your
lead favorite character. He's not redeemable
at all. Like, there are some villains where you
can redeem them. Like we mentioned in the Christmas
episode with Professor What's -Is -Nuts, Professor
Hinkle in Frosty. That character is a redeemable
villain. This character, Ja 'ar, is not. Not
at all. Yeah, and I think you asked... ten people
who are the least favorite character in this
movie is, I think, ten of them give you the fodder.
I think it's a clear ten for ten. I think it's
really hard, though, to pick a favorite character
in this movie. There are a lot of scenes that
I love. Now, I was reading in here some of the
other, some of the, there's another bullet point
down after, after the rifle thing, where some
of the magic carpet and everything else. uh...
right before that uh... it says robin williams
as the narrator now i was watching this this
uh... what we all last night never knew that
before that robin williams was a little shopkeeper
narrator but i would as i was watching it last
night i i listened to the voice and it it's not
going to be there considered doing a double role
where the narrator was actually the genie in
disguise. I'm kind of glad they didn't do that,
though. I think I change. Every time I watch
it, I have a different favorite character. I
know out of all the hero, good guy, whatever
in all the Disney movies, that Aladdin is probably
my favorite character out of those. I don't know
if he's my favorite character in this movie,
but I know I always, as a kid, wanted to be Aladdin.
Like, I've done some figure work and stuff like
that, and if I ever had the chance to play Aladdin,
I would be ecstatic, because that's just an awesome
role. I don't know, I really like the magic carpet,
and we can't go without talking about Jasmine
a little bit, because, and the reason I bring
that up is because when Whatever episode that
was that we talked about Snow White. Episode
29? Yeah, 29. Yeah, in episode 29 I talked about
how Snow White was the worst heroine, you know,
the worst lead lady in a Disney movie ever. Jasmine
might be the best. Yeah, I would have to agree.
I don't know if I'd say that she's the best.
Maybe after we do our whole Disney spotlight
and I've rewatched a bunch of stuff, I can make
a statement, but Jasmine, holy cow. There was
nothing bad about Jasmine. She was the opposite
of Snow White. I'll just leave it at that. Yeah,
exactly. I think I can pick one specific favorite
hero character out of this film. There was one
scene in the beginning when Aladdin and Abu are
running from the guards and Abu stops because
I think Aladdin or somebody stepped on a table
of swords or something and one of the swords
was in the ground and Abu picks it up and he
turns around and waves it at the guards. He's
like, the monkey has a sword! And then when it
comes up he goes, you fool, we all have swords!
Yeah, it's almost like the Indiana Jones where
the guy's waving a sword and they're like, wait
a second, we have guns. I just, this movie, when
I watched it, at the parts that are supposed
to be funny, I could not stop laughing. And I
haven't watched this in a long time. I mean,
I don't even know when this two disc platinum
edition came out. I honestly have no idea. I
mean, we'll get to it once we get to the legacy
segment, but I bought it off of, like, Amazon
or something, and sometimes I buy DVDs because
I want them for... Well, now that I'm doing podcasting,
I want them for specific things, but back then
I would buy DVDs just to have them. Oh my god,
I need that movie in my collection. And one of
the things where I looked at the bonus features
on it, I never actually watched the film. And
that was a good two or three years ago from now.
Yeah, and I think the thing with this one, I've
never had a movie, I don't think I've ever, I
can't recall a movie off the top of my head where
I can't pick out one favorite character or at
least two favorite characters. And this one,
I mean, Jasmine, Aladdin, Abu, Genie, Magic,
Carpet, like, you can go on and on, how do you
distinguish one from the other? You know what
I mean? I've never had that dilemma where it's
been that hard to pick a favorite character.
You know what I want to say, and I know this
probably won't ever happen, but I would love
to see Robin Williams do his comedy routines,
but I want Genie doing it. Like this is Robin
Williams animated or this is you know the genie
featuring Robin Williams or something like that
I want to the genie is by far the funniest character
in the film He may be the funniest Disney character
of all time Yeah I mean I don't want to make
a bunch of statements like that you know early
on in these Disney spotlights maybe we can do
that at the end but he's got to be up if he is
not he's Way up there. I mean this this wasn't
just like your funny little sidekick Like Iago
would have been this work hands down matter if
you were four years old or if you were 40 years
old The genie was funny to you, right, right?
Okay, so I guess so we have anything else we
want to say about the the voice actors I find
it foot just What? Just fantastic voice acting
in this yeah um You know, I find it very well
done in this film how they transition the actual
voice actor to the sink And a lot of times you
can't even tell the difference I couldn't because
now a lot of times it's impossible to tell the
difference like I know Well, we should just mention
that rather Williams does his own singing at
least for the couple funds He does not do his
own thing as the narrator though when they do
that, Tom. Aladdin and Jasmine both have separate
people doing their voices when they sing. I mean,
there's a lot of different actors coming in and
singing, and a lot of times, yeah, that's almost
impossible to tell the difference. I should say
that even though I think the voice acting is
awesome in there, maybe we should dislike Robin
Williams for the fact that because he did such
a good job in that, All of a sudden it became
the norm to bring in big names. I'm anti bringing
in big names for every animated movie like they've
been doing since then. Well, maybe Robin Williams
did too good of a job. I think it depends. It
depends on the film. It depends. You know, and
I will maintain this opinion on anything. It
depends on the film and if the actor fits the
role. See, Robin Williams could disguise his
voice enough where it wasn't necessary. I mean,
you knew it was Robin Williams, but it wasn't
like... He sounded the same all the time, and
I'll bring up one that I don't remember which
animated movie he's in, but Ray Romano's in one.
And that just bothers me because it's his voice
the whole time and he doesn't do anything with
it. And I'm like, I'm listening to Ray Romano
as a cartoon and I'm not enjoying that. You're
talking about Ice Age, right? I think it's Ice
Age. You know, if you're going to be a voice
actor that does a major role in an animated movie,
you need to have the ability to to change your
voice or to do different things with the tone
and the pitch. So it doesn't feel like you're
watching everybody loves Raymond Ice Age version.
Yeah, but the difference is with Williams, while
he is no -mel -blank, he is damn close to another
man of a thousand voices because he can disguise
himself as anything. Yeah, and that's what I
think you have to be. If you're going to be a
big name that's going to do animated movies,
you need to be that good. But I mean if it's
a straight -shooting character such as say Well,
no, no, I mean character if it's a straight Yeah,
Toy Story, yeah Yeah, exactly woody. I mean you
can't do set, you know sound effect. The genie
role was made for robin williams because he's
a comedian the genie is supposed to be a comedian
it's supposed to make you laugh so uh... as far
as other names you know big names in in animated
film again at you know i will always say it just
depends on the film it depends on the on on the
role that they are asked to do uh... i agree
with you that it depends i just i just have found
that more times than not i'd just like when it's
a voice that I know, and they've done that exact
same voice that they did in their real life.
We won't get to this for a while, but I'm going
to ask you now, and I will ask you once we get
to it. What do you think of Ferris Bueller as
Simba? Because Matthew Broderick is the adult
Simba. Yeah. I don't know if it was at the time
I didn't know Matthew Broderick as well. Or if
it was just somehow... Did he use his exact same
voice? I think so. I don't think they changed
it. I mean, the Simba character is different
obviously than Ferris Bueller, so I don't think
he talked to the camera or anything like that,
but I mean... He now didn't bother me as much,
and so that kind of supports your argument there,
where it kind of depends on who it is. I think
what happens with it though is when it's bad,
it stands out in my mind so much more. And when
it's someone that does a good job and I don't
mind it, I almost don't even realize that it
was someone that I knew that did it. And it kind
of just, you know, like sails over your head
like you don't even realize it. Until later on
you look at a script or a voice cast and they
say, wait a second, that was what, you know,
it's like what we did with, you know, a few characters
in this film. Wait a second, you did that guy
too? Right, exactly. So is that it for the voice
actors? Yeah, I think we're ready to go behind
the scenes. Well, we will go behind the scenes
right after this. Okay, we didn't really go out
to break. We just had to, yeah. Anyway, up next
is the behind the scenes segment. And where would
you like to start? I think there's some good
stuff right away here. Basically, the idea was
pitched in 1988. And after some songs were written
and screenplays done or whatever, you know, partnering
up with some people that had worked on Beauty
and the Beast, they basically got to the point
where it got to the directors, and I think this
is interesting, the directors, which were mentioned
before, John Lester and Ryan Clement, were basically
picking, they had three projects that were offered
to them, and they were picking one of them. And
listen to the choices they had. A project about
Swan Lake, a project entitled King of the Jungle,
which eventually does become The Lion King. And
then they have Aladdin. So I mean, is that a
no -lose situation? Yeah. Pick between Swan Lake,
Lion King, and Aladdin, and don't screw it up.
But they delivered it to Jeffrey Kastenberg.
I don't know, I have missed it. They delivered
it to him in 1991, and he thought the script
didn't engage, and basically denied it and wouldn't
approve it until after another screenwriting
duo rewrote it, which is Ted Elliott and Terry
Rosio. Look at these changes. These are things
I never knew about, and I kind of find them interesting.
The character of Aladdin's mother was renewed,
so the original version had Aladdin's mother
in there. basically made Princess Jasmine a stronger
character and Aladdin's personality was rewritten
to be a little rougher, kind of like a young
Harrison Ford. Which I think was interesting,
they kind of originally had Aladdin being a younger
character that was with his mom and they basically
went from having him be a 12 or a 13 year old
to having him basically what I would consider
as being like a 18, 19 year old. What age do
you picture Aladdin being? I don't picture him
any older than maybe seven. I would say he's
He's got to be anywhere from 17 to 21 And I would
have to say again that that Jasmine I would say
she's anywhere from over 18 to about 20. I don't
know why, but I almost always got the impression,
and maybe it's just because he was kind of the
street rat and she was the princess, which you
usually get the opposite impression, but I got
the impression that Jasmine was older than Aladdin.
Well, you know, that's fine. I mean, we could
say that Aladdin's 19 and we could say that she's
22, 23, but... No, I just find it odd because
you usually always picture in that type of story
that the guy is a little bit older than the girl
or maybe that's just tradition, you know, whatever.
But the way that Jasmine presented herself, yeah,
I would put her, you know, 20 or 19 and Aladdin,
you know, 17, 18 or something like that. And
then a couple of the other things, let's see
here. Yeah, so as an early experience, we played
Aladdin, being him a little bit younger, and
he had a mother in the story. In design, he became
more athletic -looking, more photo of a young
leading man, more of a teenage version than he
was originally, which I think was a good move.
And they said basically that Aladdin was designed
by a team that originally made him to resemble
actor Michael J. Fox, but during production it
was decided that the design was too boyish and
wasn't appealing enough. So the character was
redesigned to add elements derived from Tom Cruise
and Calvin Klein models. I would have never pictured
Tom Cruise or Calvin Klein models when I see
Aladdin, but Michael J. Fox might not have worked
out his show. I mean, I know we're not reading
this all the way through, but I found, I was
reading earlier right below the Harrison Ford
thing, Something interesting about Iago, the
parrot, who was originally conceived as a British
calm and serious character, was reworked into
comic role after the filmmakers saw Gilbert Godfrey
in Beverly Hills Cop 2. Godfrey was cast to provide
Iago's voice, several characters, and plot elements
also based on the 1940s version of The Thief
of Baghdad and many aspects of the traditional
story were changed for the film. Now... I'm glad
they did that because I wouldn't have liked him
as a British serious. character. I'm not a Gilbert
Godfrey fan, but I think he was perfect for this
role. There are only three things that I can
think of at this moment in time that I actually
absolutely love him in. Beverly Hills Cop II,
because he was just awesome in that, one scene
that he was in. This, you know, the Aladdin franchise.
That's right. He played, I'm trying to get this
right, Mixy is piddly in Superman the animated
series. He was the voice of of mixing in the
So, you know, those are the three things that
I absolutely like him in I don't mind when he
appeared on Hollywood Squares But I mean, you
know, it's he's just not an actor you can really
stomach for long periods of time Going behind
the scenes with a little bit with the genie here.
It says that the directors created the genie
with Robin Williams in mind, even though it had
some very suggested actors such as John Candy,
Steve Martin, and Eddie Murphy. I am a huge John
Candy fan, but thank God he makes Steve Martin
or Eddie Murphy the genie. It would not have
been the same. Williams was approached and eventually
accepted the role. Williams came for voice recording
sessions during breaks and the screening of two
other films he assigned and at the time it would
be Hook and Toys. It's much worse movies than
Aladdin. Unusually for an animated film, much
of Williams' dialogue was ad -libbed. For some
things Williams was given topics and dialogues
and allowed him to improvise his lines. It was
estimated that Williams improvised 52 characters.
the supervisor and the animator for Bikini then
reviewed his dialogue and thought that the crew
would match, and a lot of their stuff was stuff
they couldn't do that doesn't even count. Right.
Well, I mean, Robin Williams, let's be honest.
Robin Williams, in his stand -up, is a very vulgar
person. I'm not saying that against the man.
There is an audience and a venue for vulgarity.
uh... because i've actually seen some of his
some of his stand -up not in person obviously
but i've seen like video yeah and since there's
a lot and you know uh... you know i think he
understood that you know hey this is disney we
got to kind of keep it g or p g or whatever really
can't throw around f bombs or as bombs or anything
like that uh... but go back to the different
suggestions no Robin Williams is a he's one of
those comedians to me that is just off -the -cuff
funny and I don't mean off -the -cuff I mean
Steve Martin can do funny but Steve Martin John
Candy and Eddie Murphy they're more physical
humor sometimes Sometimes, not all the time,
but sometimes. I swear Eddie Murphy would have
done this, would have been the kiss of death
like it is on every other thing he does. Come
on now, everybody loves Donkey. Everybody loves
Donkey. Yeah, that's true, but a lot of his stuff
just bombs like crazy. Alright, well, anyway.
Candy, there's no way. There's no way I can see...
The dude from, oh I forget what his character
name was in that movie. There's no way I can
see him from planes, trains, and automobiles
in this. I could see him doing it more than I
could see Steve Martin or Eddie Murphy for some
reason. I'm saying that there's no way I could
see Steve Martin at a... at a marketplace counter
in this animated film saying, I want a fucking
fish or whatever he says to the car rental lady
in Plains Transautomobiles. Robin Williams was
the only choice. If you had to have a big name,
you may have been able to find strictly voice
actors that could have done it, but you weren't
going to find an actual actor besides Robin Williams.
Oh yeah, exactly. The producers added a bunch
of in -jokes and references to Disney's previous
works in the film. We had a cameo appearance
from the directors. And you had drawn some characters
based on Disney workers in there. And then you
had some of the specific cameos. And actually,
this last time, I was looking for these to see
if I could find them. I did. I found two out
of the three. I found Sebastian from The Little
Mermaid. There's a scene, just in case the viewers
want to look for this, or listen to it. Aladdin's
asked to be a prince, the genie pulls out a book
and he's looking for different things and he's
got something king and then he has like a crab
king or a kingfish or something and he pulls
out Sebastian. So that's from The World Mermaid.
There's a point when Aladdin says something and
he says he's going to grant him his freedom and
he turns into Pinocchio. I didn't see the beast
from Beauty and the Beast. Did you see that somewhere?
No, but that wasn't the one I think. At the very
end and now this really isn't Disney animation.
It's more of a Disney Merchandising at the very
end when he blasts off To go wherever he's gonna
go on vacation. He is wearing a goofy hat remember
Disney has those those That's that are yeah,
but no I looked for it, I think I would have
to like freeze frame some of the things where
he's going real quick through different things
to see where that is. I thought it was going
to be where he was getting his mode of transportation
and he did a camel and then he did like, it switched
like three or four things right in the road before
he got to the elephant. But I couldn't freeze
frame it. It could have been during the parade,
like after Abu was turned into the elephant.
and they start up with the song because they
have this big production in there somewhere but
I don't know if anyone who listens to this episode
that would like to inform us if you know where
if the genie turns into beast from Beauty and
the Beast you can send us an email at gcrintunecast
.gmail .com and let us know but I caught the
I actually had to go back and I kind of caught
Sebastian, but I wasn't sure. I just wasn't sure,
and then I rewound a little bit and like, ding.
Yeah, I wish there would have been even more
though. I think that's hilarious because it wasn't
like they were doing it and beating you over
the head with it. It wasn't where they were making
it completely obvious. They were just like little
quick boom boom boom type things and you had
to really be paying attention to, except for
the Pinocchio one. That one kind of just comes
out there. But I like how they were kind of more
subtle with that. I don't know if you want to
talk at all about the behind -the -scenes conflicts
or not. Yes, we're definitely going to be talking
about the conflicts. In gratitude for his success
with Disney's touchstone film Good Morning Vietnam,
Robin Williams voiced the genie for SAG's scale
pay, $75 ,000, on condition that his name or
image not be used for marketing as supporting
character not to take more than 25 % of space
on advertising artwork. Since Toys was scheduled
for release one month after Aladdin's debut,
for financial reasons, the studio went back on
the deal in both counts, especially in poster
art having the genie in 25 % of the image, but
having other major supporting characters portrayed
considerably smaller. The Disney -Hyperion book,
Aladdin, the making of an animated film, listed
both William's characters, the Febler and the
genie, ahead of the main characters, which was
forced to refer to him only as the actor signed
to play the genie. Williams and Disney had a
bitter falling out as a result. Dan Castellaneta,
Homer Simpson, voiced the genie in The Return
of Jafar and the Aladdin anime and television
series. Anne had recorded his voice for Aladdin
and the King of Thieves when Jeffrey Katzenberg
was fired from Disney and replaced by former
20th Century Fox production head Joe Roth, whose
last act at Fox was greenlighting Williams' film
Mrs. Doubtfire. Roth arranged for a public apology
to Williams by Disney. Williams agreed to perform
in Hollywood Pictures' Jack, directed by Francis
Ford Coppola, and even agreed to voice the Genie
again for the King of Thieves sequel for considerably
more than scale, replacing all of Castellan in
his dialogue. Um, it's been - What? Well, you
know, he's - he he's douching it up over at dream
work so you know uh... stand to be the business
man at the end of the summer it all uh... and
i wonder how castle and i felt about this i mean
you know honestly i don't think you know i'm
not going to speak for dana i can't even presumed
to speak for dana castle and i but i would think
that that would have kind of just bounced off
his back because hell nineteen ninety two That
was the height of the Simpsons. Right. I mean,
he was in, you know, 91, 92. He was in Simpsons
mania, for Christ's sake. But, you know, I mean,
actors are, I mean, you know, different, you
know, different for each, each thing. I mean,
if you're gonna get screwed out of something,
then, you know, you're gonna... I think the thing
that... I don't know. Again, we can't speak for
him. I mean, I don't think he would have minded
had they told him, we don't need you for the
third movie, because he would have had more time
on his hands since you were so busy. But I think
the fact that he recorded most of it and then
they just didn't use it might be something that
some voice actors might get pissed off about.
I don't know. Obviously, we can't speak for him.
But it's a little different than from saying,
OK, we use you on the second one. We don't need
you on the third one, than saying, We recorded
all the dialogue, but we're not going to use
any of it. Yeah I don't know if that's I don't
have to talk to more voice actors to see how
those two things Differ and how the reactions
are how they take them, but it's definitely interesting
little Scenario there that happens Yes, it is
Are we done with this do we want to go? I mean
this thing is one tons of awards nominations
and It won two Academy Awards best music original
score best music original song for a whole new
world and Receiving nominations for best song
friend like me Which yeah, I had that stuck in
my head for 45 minutes last night It has won
a ton of awards. You can just go down the line.
Academy Awards, Emmy Awards, Golden Globe Awards,
Grammy Awards, MTV Awards. Most of them are for
the music and the songs, but some of them are
for best animated or motion pictures. Some of
them are for young actors like Scott Winder.
There's just a ton of awards for this show. We've
kind of mentioned the directors before, Clements
and what was the other guy's name? Crap. I can't
think now. Anyway, um... I think it was Musker.
Yeah, Musker and Clements, there we go. I don't
know what it was with me when I was doing the
research for this. I didn't write any of them
down. So yeah, people directed it, people wrote
it, that's it. There you go. I think it's really
cool that they used different aspects of different
things for the behind the scenes stuff. I guess
we can get into the actual show. I'm ready for
my five second recap. You're ready for your what?
I think we have a 30 second recap. Five seconds?
It went from a 30 second recap to a five second
recap. Wow. No, 30 -second recap. Give me more
time. I'll try anyway, though. All right. So
basically, we start with we've got the street
rat guy causing crimes and problems out on the
streets in this city that we're going to call
Agrabah. Princess gets sick of trying to be hooked
up with a prince. She goes out into the street,
meets the street rat. They have a little moment,
whatever. The people come in. Big, bad Jafar
takes Aladdin to the cave to get in his lamp.
Aladdin gets stuck in the cave. Jafar doesn't
get in his lamp. Aladdin rubs lamp. Genie comes
out, gets out of the cave, makes himself a transfer.
They ask him to be halfway up or after. Jafar
tries to basically kill him. Are you interrupting
my recap? I'm sorry, but he tries to kill him
three different times. Yeah. We basically tried
to kill him a couple different times. You know,
Aladdin's first wish is that he becomes the prince,
so he goes after Jasmine, and then let's see
what's happening after that. Obviously, before
he gets his last wish off, you know, I'm skipping
some stuff, but they go on their magic carpet
ride, they fall in love completely, he gets the
whole storyline that he's not being honest with
her because he's telling her she's the prince
and not the dude street rat, even though she
should know that. And then eventually Jafar gets
a hold of the lamp, becomes a sultan, becomes
sorcerer, and eventually Aladdin after being
booted a million miles away finds his way back
and tricks Jafar into wishing he was a genie.
Jafar gets trapped into the lamp. Now we're left
with Aladdin having one wish and what the prison
has to do. Does he try to make something right
with the princess or does he grant the genie
his freedom? Grant the genie his freedom. the
change of the rules, has me and Aladdin get married,
and has the other after and so the next movie.
You know, it's actually very funny. I didn't
think you were going to try to do a 5 second
or 30 second synopsis on this one because you
love it so much. I figured you'd go plot point
by plot point, but unlike that complete and utter
shit first film Disney did, which should no longer
be mentioned on this show, it'll just be known
as that that film that shall not be named uh...
you know this honestly the only problems i have
with this film is too far i mean i i understand
he's the villain i get that but the he is the
only problem that i have with this film i honestly
i mean yeah i i kinda do have a problem with
aladdin lying to them but you know again that's
part of the plot uh... so that's part of all
that you're supposed to learn from that record
Exactly. You know, I just, I have no notes. I'm
going to try to be as nitpicky as I can and say
that the only little spot that I could even,
and I still don't even think this is a big deal,
but it's the only one I could find if I was digging,
if someone paid me and I had to find something
wrong with it, is the fact that Aladdin has the
prince when he is with Jasmine. has done a couple
things that should have basically chipped off
his hand. And she has taught him doing a couple
things. He bounces the fruit off of his arm like
he had before. He peeks his hand down and says,
you trust me like you did before. I have no problem
with that. I have no problem with the fact that
she figures it out. I think that is great that
she's not stupid. She figures it out. And then
she says something about a boo and catches him
talking about a boo. And he shouldn't know about
a boo because he's a prince and not a lab. This
all is fine and good. I like it. Absolutely done.
It's my only teeny tiny nitpicky thing is later
on Jafar makes a huge big deal like he's unveiling
this to the princess for the first time where
he's like and I know he had still lied to her
and still said look I'm a prince so she might
have still bought that and that he had only dressed
up like a street rat but when Jafar was saying
look it's Aladdin and this is the guy that you
met in the street rat or in the you know out
on the street she looked surprised for at least
a couple frames. Yeah, she does. That part she
shouldn't have looked surprised about because
she knew that was him. She should have been more
surprised on, okay, he is really, you know, the
street rat, he's really not the prince, but I
just didn't like quite how that was animated
because it made her look like she had all of
a sudden forgot what she already knew, if that
makes sense. He dyed her hair blonde. So that
was the only thing. I scoured the movie for bad
things and that's the only thing I could come
up with. Yeah, you're right. And I didn't really
notice. I mean, because honestly when I was watching,
like I said before, I haven't watched this film
in years. And I honestly wasn't watching it as
a reviewer point of view. I was watching it like
to have fun and just to keep the plot and the
whole movie fresh in my mind for this recording.
and yeah you're right uh... she shouldn't look
surprised she could have been mad if they would
have made her look mad that would have worked
yeah because she could have been mad that he
was still lying but she shouldn't have looked
surprised right now i agree the only reason why
i could probably justify it to you of looking
surprised really the surprise look should have
been later which it was uh... when she's uh...
when she's coming on to jeff are because she
sees him before jeff are does when he when he
comes back from straight the ends of whatever
you know but seattle shine one moment left her
damn crown on and that's how jeff are so i'm
within the in the reflection of the crap uh...
uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh...
uh... uh... I have the moment that I like the
most today, and then I'll give you my favorite
Aladdin moment overall. There was a moment that
I never noticed before watching this, but I noticed
today, and it's oddly with the two bad guys.
There's a scene where it's Jafar and Iago, and
they're talking about, I don't remember exactly
what part of the plan they're talking about,
but it's lifting up off of them, kind of handing
to something else, and they're doing the maniacal
evil laugh, but they're alternating. And it's
like Iago laughs, and then Jafar laughs, and
then Iago laughs, and then Jafar laughs. I thought
it was a really clever thing to do instead of
just one single maniacal bad guy laugh, but they
played them off of each other. I thought it was
really cool. It's fairly early on in the movie.
Yeah, and the only thing I have to argue about
your plot synopsis is you said that he's running
through the city causing all kinds of crimes
and terror. He's not. He's an orphan. he's stealing
food, so he and Abu are... Abu is committing
crimes, because Abu is not just stealing food.
Abu is comm - oh, okay, but Aladdin himself is
not running amok in the city, terrorizing people
because he's a criminal, he is an orphan, and
he has no food yet. He's trying to survive. Yeah,
he's trying to survive. But, you know, granted,
you know, Abu - damn it! Why the hell do I have
the little cookie mart employee on my mind? Um,
Abu is a little kleptomaniac monkey. Get people
in trouble. Exactly. My favorite moment though
in the whole movie, I shouldn't say that because
I have so many of them, but I think one of my
favorite moments in the movie is when the genie
does his whole gets huge and says, you know,
I have, you know, cosmic power and all this stuff
and then living space. When he does it, not when
Aladdin does it at the end, but when he does
it in the cave or whatever it is, that moment
was just awesome. Yes, it was. Yes, it was. You
know, and again, I guess we can move into the
music here. Composer. Hold on one thing. I got
one thing I want to talk about before we get
into the music. Because I just remembered another
moment that I like. We could go on and on. But
my other favorite moment is when Genie is the
little bee and he's buzzing outside of Aladdin's
ear while he's on the carpet outside of Jasmine's
little, whatever you want to call it there, window.
And I can't remember all the lines the bee has
but he's trying to give her a word To describe
her and he says beautiful something something
and he says punctual and then a lad says them
and he's like oh my bad And it's just funny and
then he made a couple other bee jokes and stuff
like that. What else? Bees? Every scene with
him is just hilarious. Are we going? Are we going
music or trivia? Music. Oh, I mean, I don't have
trivia, so. Let me give a few trivia facts since
we're kind of talking about the whole show, and
then we'll get into maybe the best part of the
show, which is the music. The opening scene with
the street merchant was completely unscripted.
Robin Williams was brought into the soundstage,
was asked to stand behind a table that had several
objects on it, and it had a bedsheet covering
them all. The animators asked him to lift the
sheet and, without looking, take an object from
the table and describe it in character. So much
of that material when they recorded that first
was inappropriate, but basically he didn't even
know the stuff that he was holding when he was
describing that stuff, which is probably why
that scene works so well. I think that's one
of the best scenes of the movie too. You know,
going back to that before you go into another
trivia fact, you know, I was watching it. You
know, I think honestly outside of the main story
that is my favorite part of the whole film I
mean, I know it's such a minor part but that
intro after after the after the Arabian Nights
song is done when he's like this this Coffee
maker it also makes fries. It will not break.
It will not break. It's broke get a better and
quicker job of grabbing your attention than I
think most movies I've seen, not just anime movies,
movies in general. The first five minutes of
this movie puts you like in like nobody's business
and a lot of it is that scene. Oh, exactly. That
scene makes your whole day for the entire movie
after that. You know, take, if you take Ferris
Bueller out of the Ferris Bueller movie and put
him in that, not really... just the Ferris Bueller
character that he actually talks to the camera.
The shopkeeper is talking to the camera. Come
closer, come closer. Too close, too close. There
we go. Yeah, I mean, you just get it. You know,
I mean, if you're watching closely and listening
closely enough, you know that's Robin Williams.
Right. Another trivia thing here. This film became
the fourteenth film ever to gross more than $200
million. But that's not the interesting part.
First animated movie ever to gross more than
$200 million. Wow. So that was a big feat for
it. I mean, Lion King, I believe, did it right
after it, but it was the first one. To capture
the movement of Aladdin's low -cut, baggy pants,
the animator looked at videos of rap star MC
Hammer. You're telling me that Aladdin wears
parachute pants? I guess. They wanted to get
that effect. We talked about that Aladdin was
kind of based off of a certain actor, Tom Cruise,
etc. I guess Jasmine's appearance was somewhat
influenced by Jennifer Connelly, who should be
familiar to most people. The two men in the crowd
that Aladdin pushes through are characters of
the director, so that's when they made their
little thing. The original plan was actually
to do Fisco and Ebert. so they couldn't get permission
to do that. Think of how different the movie
would have been. In the first draft, Aladdin
actually had three friends, Bab -Kek, Omar, and
Christine, which was a magic ring and two genies.
So I'm glad they didn't do that. How did you
like this one here? But based on Mark Davis'
design for Maleficent and Sleeping Beauty, the
two villains share more than just looks. They
both carry a staff, which they use to execute
evil magic. They both have bird henchmen, one's
a raven, one's a parrot. They both turn themselves
into gigantic animals in their respective films,
a dragon and a snake. And Ultimate Disney dot
com featured both of them in the top villain
countdown at number one and number two. So, according
to Disney .com, Maleficent and I don't know which
one was one and which one was two, and Jafar
were the top two villain countdowns in Disney.
You know, it's like I said before, they are,
Maleficent and Jafar, are both the scariest,
ugliest, well, scariest, baddest, most diabolical
villains of the entire Disney animation theatrical
features. I think Jafar would be one of the best
villains ever. Yeah, he is. He is. And the difference
here, and one thing I like about Jafar, other
than, like, you take like the Hag and Snow White
or some of those other movies where people are
trying to, oh, I just didn't take a real, excuse
me, but when you take some of those villains,
They turn into creepy characters and get people
to believe what they say and I always had a bug
for me because it's like, why are you taking
advice from this creep? Or why are you doing
with this hag? At least with Jafar, he was controlling
the mind with his staff. So it wasn't like...
The real characters like Javin, who wasn't being
controlled by the staff, knew he was creepy and
didn't like him. It was only the ones that were
controlled by the staff that were getting fooled
by... You know what I mean? Like it wasn't like
just regular people being stupid, which I like
about a lot. Right, exactly. And I gotta tell
you, that staff was creepy. Yeah. I think it
was the most creepy. Do you have a Darth helmet
vibe off of the sultan? A little bit. Because
of playing with the toys You know now that I
think about it I I'm like wait this could so
between Dark Helmet and the Wizard of Oz Well,
no But I mean with the toys and stuff and and
him talking to the toys I always thought of Darth
or Dark Helmet because It's just what happened.
I've got five more trivia facts. While filming
the movie, Robin Williams frequently received
calls from Steven Spielberg, who at the time
was working on Sam Lakewood. He would put Robin
Williams on speakerphone so he could help jokes
to the cast and crew to cheer them up. And some
of the material that he used, then he... was
stuff that he ended up either using or had used
in the film. So that's kind of ironic. And as
of 2006, it is the only traditional animated
film to be nominated for an MTV Movie Award for
Best Picture. I don't know if there has been
one in the last couple years. For a while, it
was the only animated film to be nominated for
an MTV Movie Award for Best Picture. So I thought
that was kind of interesting. Robin Williams
also maybe cost him a couple of awards. Because
Robin Williams ad -libbed so many of his lines,
the script turned down for a best -adapted screen
-toy Oscar nomination. I got two more here. This
one I looked for, and this is something that
you would actually have to probably freeze frame
and look for. I could not find it, but when Aladdin
pushed Jafar back into the lamp, the spell on
the other characters was broken. The magic carpet
gets your turn normal. Datsun's dress turns back
from red to blue. Start watching when Datsun's
tiger cub jumps into the salt and brine. When
the cub hits his arm and starts to grow back
into a tiger just before he becomes normal, Azad's
face appears as Mickey Mouse for one frame. And
it says it. I could not find it. I didn't have
the ability to slow it down because I wasn't
watching it on DVD. So I'd have to check that
out. And this is the other interesting thing
which actually i don't think i would have minded
too much but originally someone else was offered
the role of Jafar but because of scheduling conflicts
with Star Trek the next generation Patrick Stewart
had to turn it down he has said in interviews
that this is his biggest regret of his career
so picture Patrick Stewart as Jafar that would
have If that would have happened, this may have
been my all -time favorite movie, like ever.
I'm not getting anything away from Jafar, he
did a good job. Oh yeah, and on that note, we're
gonna take a quick break and we will come back
with the music segment. Okay, going into the
music, composer Alan Menken and songwriter Howard
Ashman and Tim Rice were praised for creating
a soundtrack that is consistently good, rivaling
the best of Disney's other animated musicals
from the 90s. Menken and Ashman began work on
the film together, with Rice taking over as lyricist
after Ashman died of AIDS -related complications
in early 1991. Although 14 songs were written
for Aladdin, only 6 are featured in the movie.
Three by each lyricist. The DVD special edition
released in 2004 includes four songs and early
animations, tests, and the music video of one,
Proud of Your Boy, performed by Clay Aiken, which
also appears on the album Disney Mania 3. Okay,
I'm sorry. Clay Aiken should not be allowed anywhere
near Aladdin. That's one thing that I did not,
that's one special feature that I did not watch.
No way. Nuh -uh, ain't happening. Right. Aladdin,
the original motion picture soundtrack, is the
soundtrack of the Disney film Aladdin. It was
released alongside the film in 1992. The album
has been released twice since 1994 and 2001.
A remastered release was issued while in 2004
a special edition featuring two new songs was
released alongside the Aladdin special edition
set. The album won Academy Award and Golden Globe
Award for Best Original Score. It was also nominated
for the BAFTA Award. uh... for best film music
a loss to the score of the film shins list you
can keep steven's humble people uh... i i i do
want to say that and and and and and and and
and and and and and and and and and and animated
movie from Disney. I don't know, especially compared
to Little Mermaid and Lion King, I don't know
which one would be the best. I think it's my
favorite out of the musicals. The songs are my
favorite, but everything Tim Rice and Alan Lincoln
touched, which they did all of those. It's just
magnificent. At least one of those two guys was
in all of those films. I think the difference
for me is Lion King, and Little Mermaid, they
both had great songs, but I think Aladdin had
more, not just, not that they're, you know, if
Aladdin would have only had a couple songs, I'd
probably put it at the same level as those guys,
but there's five songs, at least in Aladdin,
that I love, whereas Lion King and Little Mermaid,
you're probably closer to, you know, two, three,
four songs that you really love, but I mean,
you have Arabian Nights, One Jump Ahead, Friend
Like Me, Prince Ali, and A Whole New World. One
Jump Ahead, I have that on my iPod. I don't have
many animated songs on my iPod. I have One Jump
Ahead and A Whole New World on my iPod. And One
Jump Ahead, I used to be able to recite line
by line when I was a kid. I loved that song.
I don't think you can say enough about the music
on this one. I mean, and that's not even talking
about the songs of the genie days. Yeah, exactly.
I mean, it's just one great song after another.
And the cut songs, like there would have been
even more songs. Other cut songs are written
and removed from the film. The 2004 soundtrack
includes two. both written by Howard Ashman and
sung by Alan Menken in the album, Proud of Your
Boy, which Aladdin was going to sing to his mother,
a character removed from the film, and High Adventure,
sung by the Genie, to encourage Aladdin cut,
because two songs for the Genie were already
considered enough. You know, it's just great.
And the score to it as well, just the instrumentals
that are in this. are just awesome. And I think
another thing I liked was I think and I didn't
really pay too much attention to it until I watched
it this time but you know usually you have you
have in animated movies that has music in them
you'll have a first version of the song and then
you'll have the reprise or you know a second
version later on or at least you'll have the
music part to it be playing even if the song
does not come again. Right. I like what they
did at one point with the whole new world. Instead
of having the music play again or having a whole
new reprise, they just had Jasmine after the
fact sitting at her mirror humming or singing
a line to it like she was remembering it. I think
that's the best I've ever seen a song written
back into the story of the actual show. Instead
of just having it play again or having it a whole
other number, just having a character remembering
the song and humming to herself. Oh, exactly.
I have no issue with any of the songs in the
entire film. I don't really like Arabian Nights,
the ending of it, because it's that high operatic
type of ending. But, you know, I mean, it's not
like it's a mark against the film. It's not really
a problem, it's more of like, oh my god, why
the hell did I watch this movie? A friend like
me, I had that uh... you know i said earlier
i had that song stuck in my head for forty five
minutes last night expected it's at the part
where it's you know getting closer closer you've
never had a friend ever you know it is like all
my god get their character he had it's the point
where i almost wanted to listen to like wiggles
songs and i hope you and i think that what people's
i cannot stand these fucking adults trying to
pander to fucking kids I can't let you get on
a Wiggles rampage. No, no, no, no. Not, but just
stating for the fact that I do hate the Wiggles.
There was another reprise that they wrote in
there though that was just as good, I'm now remembering,
just as good as the whole new world was on the
one jump ahead. When they go back to him and
he does the little reprise when he goes, you
know, rip rat, street rat. You know, I don't
buy that type thing. I thought that was another
really great way to just not just have the whole,
they didn't do a whole nother song. They didn't
do like a whole nother course. It was just a
little quick reminder of the song, finish it
off type thing. And I thought that was, that's
one of my favorite moments of the film too, actually.
I love that part of the song. Well, according
to this, according to this information here,
a slow version of, and this is talking about
the one jump ahead. The slow version of the song,
the reprise specifically, is heard in the underscore
frequently as a theme for Aladdin, which it fits
as his theme. Do we have anything else you want
to say about the music? No, except I don't know
if you can find animated movies that have a better
musical soundtrack than this one does. Little
Mermaid's close, and Lion King maybe is a third.
And the one I'm thinking of doesn't really count.
Oh. South Park? Huh? No, that's... Where the
hell did you get South Park from? I just remembered
that that's another one that has quite a few
good songs on it. Uh, Transformers. Oh god. Anyways...
Only for all followers. Moving into the legacy
segment here, the theatrical run a large promotion
campaign proceeded a Latin debut in theaters
with the film's trailer being attached to most
Disney VHS releases and numerous tie -ins and
licenses being released. after a limited release
on November 13, 1992. See, I knew. Oh, wait.
Aladdin debuted in 1 ,131 theaters on November
25, 1992, grossing 19 .2 million in its opening
weekend. Number two in the box office behind
Home Alone 2, Lost in New York. It took eight
weeks for the film to reach number one at US
box office, breaking the record for a week between
Christmas and New Year's Eve with 32 .2 million.
The film had held the top spot for five times
during its 22 -week run. Aladdin was the most
successful film of 1992 grossing $217 million
in the United States and over $504 million worldwide.
It was the biggest gross for an animated film
until The Lion King two years later. As of 2009,
it is the third highest -grossing traditionally
animated feature worldwide behind The Lion King
and The Simpsons mo - Oh my god, no! I did also
get good reviews on Rotten Tomato for the 91
% of critics gave the film a positive review
and among top critics it actually has a 100 %
positive review rating. Most critics praise winter
Robin Williams performances Jeannie with Janet
Maslin of the New York Times declaring that children
need know precisely what Mr. Williams is evoking
to understand how funny he is. That's big statement
coming from Chuck Jones. Oh, yeah I'm just see
what that fat bastard Ebert has to say about
it. I don't You don't want to breathe anything
what you were has to say he was a moron I don't
know if I've ever agreed with any of his comments
the dude is Listen, I will read his one line.
Let me the stupid line here Considered the music
inferior to its predecessors and claimed Aladdin
and Jasmine were pale and routine Aladdin was
different than any other hero character ever
in a Disney movie. The only one you can even
compare him to, the only one you can even closely
compare him to is Jungle Book. Alright, I have
a question. I have a question. Now, I'm not counting
Jungle Book because really the animals are the
heroes of that. Mowgli as a hero character, we
can get into that in the next episode when we
talk about Jungle Book next time on the show.
Is Aladdin the very first minority hero character
in Disney film? He's probably one of them. He's
gotta be one of them. No, was he the first ever?
He might be. I'd have to look it up. Because,
I mean, you know, when you think of Arabians,
you don't think of a, and I'm not trying to sound
ring sister or egotistical, you don't think master
race, you know? uh... i mean it i'm not saying
that there is a master races will let you know
that now but you know i mean you know you don't
think of a majority when you think of Arabians,
for the most part. Most of the time you're used
to, and just because of the society we grew up
in we're used to, especially viewing for a while
it was Russians, or Japanese, or Middle Eastern
descent as the bad guys, not saying that they
are, not saying they should be, but that's always
how we've been portrayed, how they've been portrayed
in entertainment and in pop culture. so it is
a big statement to have one of them being the
heroes and you know to try to dispell those myths
to kids that you know they're not you know what
what that we were portrayed them as you know
at marriott time but listen to what he said though
and i know this is a different definition of
the word here but do you just call jasmine pale
what's that one that we can't talk about anymore
yeah no we're not going there uh no god you're
freaking kidding me She's tan all over. There's
no tan lines on it. Anyways. Someone else's tail.
He probably gave that other movie a thumbs up.
God, please don't make me do research on that
again. I'm not really going to go into the animation
enthusiast crap. No, I don't think I'll be here.
Let me go down here to the home media. The film
was first released on VHS October 1st, 1993 as
part of the Walt Disney Classics line. In its
first week of availability, Aladdin sold over
10 .8 million copies. Okay, I know by 97 DVD
was kind of coming up and everything else, but
in 93, 10 .8 million VHS tapes were sold. Wow.
And went on to sell over 25 million int - oh
my god. uh... twenty -five million total a record
only broken by the later release of the lion
king it entered uh... the disney vault i don't
know why they're calling it the moratorium but
it's the disney vault it's got a link maybe i
can click on that and we can get information
on that anyway i'll do that later i'll have to
remember to do that later it entered the disney
vault on april thirtieth nineteen ninety -four
On October 5th, 2004, Aladdin was released on
DVD as part of Disney's Platinum Edition line.
The DVD release featured retouched and cleaned
up animation, prepared for Aladdin's planned
but untimely cancelled IMAX reissue in 2003,
and a second disc with bonus features accompanied
by a 19 million dollar marketing campaign. The
DVD sold about 3 million units, less than any
of the other Platinum Edition titles so far.
The film's soundtrack was available on its original
Dolby 5 .1 track. or in a new Disney enhanced
home theater mix. The DVD went into the vault
on January... Good thing, thank God for Amazon
and people that actually sell these things after
they've gone back into the freaking vault. It
went back into the vault on January 2008 along
with its sequels. Controversies. One of the verses
of the opening song, Arabian Nights, was altered
following a protest from the American Arab Anti
-Discrimination Committee. Holy crap. That's
a mouthful. Yeah, I don't really care about the
controversies, to be honest. The lyrics changed
in July 1993 from, where they cut off your ear
if they don't like your face, it's barbaric,
But, hey, it's home. In the original release,
too, where it's flat and immense and the heat
is intense, it's barbaric. But, hey, it's home.
You can't have them cutting off your ears. I
thought that was kind of funny. I don't get this,
though. They say that Entertainment Weekly ranked
Aladdin in a list of the most controversial films
in history due to that. Really? Damn. I thought,
what? Was that one line? And they also complained
about Aladdin and Jasmine. They criticized the
characters. Anglified features and Anglo -American
accents in contrast to the other characters in
the films which are dark -skinned, have arid
accents and grotesque facial features and appear
dullness or greedy. Whatever. Okay, well, I'm
just kind of reading down here. Protests were
also raised to another scene when Aladdin is
attacked by the tiger Raja on the palace balcony.
Aladdin quietly says, come on, good kitty, take
off and go. The word kitty is overlapped by another
unidentifiable sound, possibly Raja's snarl.
Some people reported hearing good teenagers take
off your clothes, which they then considered
a subliminal reference to promiscuity. Because
of the controversy, Disney replaced the phrase
with down kitty on the DVD release. It does,
I was listening for this minute, it actually
does sound like he says take off your clothes.
I couldn't get the good teenagers out of it,
but it does, instead of take off and go, it does
sound like he says take off your clothes. Just
saying. Well, you know, again, you know, this
was, this was when Mr. Jackass Katzenfurg was
fired, so. You know, this is a guy who put a
dick in the Little Mermaid art. Right. Maybe
there's something else in Lion King. Oh, no!
I know what's in the Lion... I know one that's
in the Lion King. When... And I know this is
getting off topic of Aladdin, but when Simba
is down and depressed and looking to the stars,
and he, you know, falls over in the grass, And
the dust comes up. As the dust swirls through
the sky, it spells sex. Yeah, I saw that before,
too. I've seen that one. I've never seen the
Little Mermaid one. It was on the older, like,
the original VHS packaging, I think. Oh. Aladdin
was followed by Disney's first direct -to -video
sequel, The Return of Jafar, in 1994. The film
saw a debut of new character, Abbess Maul, voiced
by Jason Alexander. and all of the original cast
except for Robin Williams, replaced by Dan Castellaneta,
and Douglas Seal, replaced by Val Benton. The
plot mainly focused on Jafar seeking revenge
on Aladdin, however, this time with Iago on Aladdin's
side, Abbas Maul becomes Jafar's new henchman.
Shortly after the return of Jafar, the Aladdin
TV series was aired on television, the episodes
focused on Aladdin's adventures after the events
of the second film. In 1996, the final sequel
to Aladdin, Aladdin and the King of Thieves,
was released on video. The story concludes as
Aladdin and Jasmine are about to be married and
Aladdin discovers that his father is still alive,
but is the king of all thieves in Agrabah. The
Aladdin characters later made a crossover with
Hercules, the animated series, and were featured
as guests in the television series House of Mouse
and related works to those series. Jafar was
the leader of the villains in Mickey's House
of Villains, which goes without saying. The film
also inspired Disney on Ice presentation and
two attractions in Disney theme parks, the Magic
Carpets of Aladdin and Dumbo the Flying Elephant
-like Ride at both Magic Kingdom Walt Disney
World Resort and Walt Disney Studios Park at
Disneyland Resort, Paris, and the show Disney's
Aladdin Musical Spectacular at Disney's California
Adventure Park. Going into the video games, along
with the film release, three different video
games based in the land were released. One by
Virgin Interactive for the Sega Mega Drive, Game
Boy later ported to Game Boy Color, Nintendo
Entertainment System and PC, another by Sims
for the Sega Game Gear and Sega Master System,
and another by Capcom for the Super Nintendo
and Sega Genesis, ported to the Game Boy Advance
in 2003. All right now, I don't remember any
of these games other than the one that was for
the Super Nintendo and the Sega Genesis Yeah,
I don't remember any of them Well, I remember
one that was on the Sega Genesis because I a
friend of mine had it and I would play it all
the time Basically take the film and put it to
a video game I think I do remember playing something
where you're riding on a magic carpet and it
was hard to stay on Yep, that would be the Genesis
game or the Super Nintendo game because they're
pretty much, you know, it's like nowadays when
you release a video game, unless you're going
to do, you know, console -specific characters,
you know, it's pretty much the same game. Yeah.
The television series is another game by Argonaut
Games entitled Aladdin Nazra's Revenge and released
in 2000 for the PlayStation and PC. Also in 2004,
Vivendi Universal released Disney's Aladdin Chess
Adventures, a chess computer game with an Aladdin
license. The Kingdom Hearts series of games features
a playable Aladdin world known as Agrabah in
Kingdom Hearts, and in Kingdom Hearts Chain of
Memories, the plot line is loosely related to
the storyline of the original film. In Kingdom
Hearts 2, it is a mixture of Aladdin and The
Return of Jafar. Jeannie is also a recurring
summoned character in the series. Okay, so the
sequels, the original film and the sequels are,
as of January 08, are in the vault. However,
I have found the sequels on Amazon as a, they
actually released it as a, they first released
them as two individual special editions, then
they released it as a Latin two and three double
pack. So I need to get those films. I do, I mean
I've got Aladdin, I've got the two disc platinum
edition in my hand, but unfortunately I don't
have the other two films right now. So yeah,
this is one of those. Again, this is something
that we can talk about when we do our wrap up.
No, seriously, I mean, we're going to have tons
of stuff to talk about when we do our animation
spotlight wrap -up, because some of the sequels
I like, some of them I don't. I don't have a
full -on hate for them. It just depends. I would
highly recommend, even though it's back in the
vault, if you can find this Ptootis Platinum
Edition. A decent price get it because it is
so awesome. This is the only DVD and again, you
know, like I said in the in the Christmas episode
with the Grinch DVD This DVD, you know how when
you buy PC games the before you take the game
out you can open the cover Yeah, this is like
that and it shows you all of the special features.
It also lists them on the back But it opens like
a video like a like a PC video game would And
I think that is super, super cool that they spent
that extra detailing to the Aladdin DVD. I think
that we're just going to save, because it is
technically one franchise, we're just going to
save our final thoughts for the very end, waiting
for the outro. So we're going to take a break,
and you're probably going to hear something about
the return of Jafar, and we will be right back.
Get ready. He's back! Everyone's back in the
hottest new movie on video. All right, carpet.
Let's go! Disney's The Return of Jafar. Jafar
has escaped from the lamp. I am free! And he'll
destroy the kingdom unless a Latin can stop him.
It's your favorite characters, Aladdin, Jasmine,
Iago and the genie. Did you miss me? It's the
newest adventure with the Latin. Disney's The
Return of Jafar, only on Video Ready G. This
summer, Disney invites you to a world premiere.
Oh, yeah! Of one of the biggest movies of the
year. Doesn't get any bigger than that! Aladdin
and the King of Thieves. Aladdin and Jasmine's
dreams are finally coming true. This is a happy
day. But a band of notorious thieves... Open
sesame! And a long -kept secret. My father is
alive? Lead Aladdin into his greatest adventure
ever. Show me the way. Follow the train of the
Forty -Keys. Your father is trapped within their
world. That would be a problem. Even after scam,
out on the land. Taking whatever we please. Got
lots of grub to scam. Pull up an easy chair.
Welcome to the Forty -Keys. Aladdin and the King
of Thieves features five brand new songs and
reunites all your favorite characters from Aladdin.
I'm back! Including the Genie, brought to life
again by the one and only Robin Williams. It's
a kinder, gentler Genie. Look at him! This summer,
live the adventure. You don't stand a chance
against the King of Thieves. And take part in
the wedding of the century. Wow. They're finally
getting married! They're finally getting married!
They're finally getting married! They're finally
getting married at the party in Agrabah! Aladdin
and the King of Thieves! To the party in Agrabah!
The party starts August 13th. Okay, we are going
to be talking about the return of Jafar, so let's
go into the history lesson. Professor Boss, KDogg
would like to issue a disclaimer that the rest
of this animated show is being done against his
will. Tooncast is not responsible for the fact
that Kevin Thompson does not want to discuss
Return of Jafar and Aladdin and the King of Thieves.
It's nothing against them, I've been anti any
Disney sequel. Alright, The Return of Jafar,
also known as Aladdin, the Return of Jafar, is
a 1994 animated direct -to -video sequel, obviously
to Aladdin from 1992. The film was released in
May of 94, and served as the origin of the Aladdin
animated series, which is actually decent. The
film centers on Jafar, the villain from the original
film, trying to gain his revenge against Aladdin
and his companions, Princess Jasmine, Genie,
Aguru, Carpet, Diago, who has now turned against
Jafar, and the Sultan, and become the ruler of
Agra. It was the first Disney direct -to -video
animated feature release, and it's currently
available. Actually, it's not currently available.
It's in the vault. And let's see, the trailer
of the film was actually on the 1994 release
of Fox and the Hound. This was the first and
only Aladdin full -length production without
the original voice of Genie, Rodney Williams,
and it's also the only one without Douglas Sito,
who was the Sultan, they were replaced. Other
than that, there's not much to say about the
history of The Return of the Fire, so let's see
what you have to say about it. Alright, going
into general memories, when I saw Aladdin, when
I first saw Aladdin in the first film, I was
so engrossed in the characters. Back then when
I saw it, I wanted to see more. So in 1994, when
I found out that Return of Jafar was out now,
you gotta cut me some slack here. I was 14 years
old and I was all hopped up on Disney. Lion King
had just came out, and I wanted more of the Aladdin
characters. So when Return of Jafar came out,
I was absolutely ecstatic. Until I saw the fucking
thing. Even when I was a kid, even when I was
a 14 year old kid, and holy crap, I'll be turning
30 in February, you know, even when I was 14,
after I finished watching it, I was like, wow.
my aunt wasted a five dollar rental on this damn
thing or however much video rentals cost back
then I don't know you know I'm thinking holy
crap this even then I I didn't like it and I
don't really know because I can't really say
that much more about it because um you know as
I said earlier in the episode you know I don't
have the sequels on DVD. I'm going to be getting
them at some point, probably in February of 2010.
I have no problem with... I agree that I was
very much into the character and I wouldn't have
minded to see more, but I think the best way
for them to do that is what they did with an
animated... series on TV or something like that
or to you know have your video games about. I
think one the reason I don't like Disney sequels
is to me part of the joy or the magic of a Disney
film is where you saw seeing it for the first
time, being totally involved in whatever that
experience, there's something, Disney has a weird
way of having it magical that first time, that
first time you watch it. And it's not only, I
mean you can still get joy out of re -watching
it and stuff like that, but for me, having sequels
has none of that magic. Like sequels do not...
give you anything new you haven't you know it's
just like I won't watch the Cinderella sequel
I think there's one I won't watch is there a
Lady and Tramp 2 I mean there's these two of
that I'm not saying they're not good I'm not
saying they're bad I'm not saying anything about
them because I just refuse to watch them because
for me it wouldn't have that same magic that
the original movie well tough titties buddy you're
gonna have to watch them when we review them
we're not watching sequels yes you are Yes, you
are, um, you know going off just a little bit
off topic here I I Never watched the Cinderella
sequel the second one. I never watched Cinderella
to dreams come true. However, I did watch Cinderella
3 a twist in time. I Thought that was you know,
again, we'll get to it once we get to that But
I don't know, you know, like I said a while ago.
It just depends on the sequel for me You know,
I think Lion King 2 was a good sequel. I didn't
like what What? I think Lion King 2 is a good
sequel. I think Lion King one and a half was
a joke. Oh Well, you know, but anyway, you know
as far as this one goes You know again, I just
I I'm pretty much speechless because I don't
know what to say about it. It just basically
sucked It just did I mean honestly, we're probably
not even gonna go over the characters or the
behind the scenes because the simple fact that
outside of Val Betten Jay Alexander being added
Val Betten replaced the other dude as the Sultan
and then uh... dan caslana replaced the genie
uh... loses you which i have no problem with
dan caslana at all i have no prior as just ike
don't remember i don't remember this movie that
well i remember how much i was disappointed in
it at the end of it such a terrible right for
it yeah i only i mean i remember the height for
two because everybody was excited everybody This
is the first time Disney had ever done something
like that. Exactly, yeah. Should have been the
last. Well, we'll get into that later. Knock
it off. So I think actually, just to save everybody
some time and the fact that I didn't actually
write any production notes or get any listing
for that, we're just going to go straight into
the plot, the actual show. So yeah, do your five
second dealie. There's no way I could do a five
-second dealie for this. I couldn't even do it.
You couldn't give me ten minutes to do the plot.
I'd have to read the entire plot. All right.
Well, I will try. Basically, a band of robbers
led by Jason Alexander's character releases Jafar.
Somehow... something some argument happens between
jaffar and any other way i'll go goes good the
other than betrays them and goes bad again and
then goes good again at the end of the film the
whole point of the film is jafar getting revenge
on a land and the other characters uh... you
know all and finally earns the sultan's acceptance
of the future grand vizier uh... laden thanks
iago and he's ambushed by the small company by
jafar disguised as a group of cloaked horseman
okay uh... you know they try to kill you know
it's just like the the fifth time uh... jafar
is tried to kill laden between the two films
uh... you know it just uh... god Oh God, it's
just it's just horrible. I didn't even make any
musical notes I didn't do anything for this film
because honestly it sucks Going down to the legacy
segment the film received a 22 % rating from
critics on rotten tomato Excuse me rotten tomatoes.
It also received 52 % from the RT community,
whatever the hell that is. Most of the negative
feelings that contributed to this rating, notable
is the first direct to radio Disney sequel, The
Return of Jafar, follows Aladdin as he attempts
to once again foil Jafar's villainous plot to
take over Agrabah despite the fact that he was
freed from his lamp at the end of the first film.
Jeannie now voiced by Dan Castellan is back and
wackier than ever. It is It's clear right from
the onset that Disney put very little effort
into the production of Return of Jafar, particularly
in the realm of animation. And wow, you know
what I just thought of? We have Megavolt as the
genie in this film. It would have been ten times
funnier if Castle Santa had poured over his Megavolt
voice. Well god, I can't even read this next
line How the hell can that fat bastard Ebert
pander the first film? Despite the mostly negative
reception of the film received a two thumbs up
from Siskel and Ebert now I won't say anything
about Siskel because he is long gone I mean he
is dead and I you know I I want to keep with
my belief that I don't speak ill of the dead
for the most part But Ebert is still very much
alive, and what a dumb bastard. There was a comic
adaptation. There was a video game. It's actually
very funny, the plot of this film, as we said
before, used in Agrabah one of the worlds in
Kingdom Hearts 2. only with Abbas Maul being
replaced by the peddler from the first film.
It is worth noting that this one of two Disney
sequels can have its plot adapted into a level
in the Kingdom Hearts series, the other being
a little mermaid to return to the sea. Since
the original Kingdom Hearts, Ariel is manipulated
by Ursula and is dealing with Triton for her.
The same trick Morgana, Ursula's sister, is played
on Melody, Ariel's daughter, in the movie too.
Furthermore, there is a mild allusion to the
Agrabah boss battle in Kingdom Hearts. Sora must
fight Jafar in genie form surrounded by a lava
pit with raising and lowering levels. As we said,
honestly, because I did try to find these before
we did the record for these sequels, you can
find them on Amazon even though Disney says that
they're back in the vault. Of course, other people
are going to have them on Amazon still. And I
want to get the the the two -pack just to have
them just to complete the little trilogy there
But it's not on general release DVD as of right
now Honestly, they'll probably bring them all
back out two years from now You know I I'm sorry
I truly feel royally screwed by Disney with the
whole Snow White thing because I spent Shut up.
You know, I spent probably four days trying to
find the 2001 DVD of Snow White and then the
very next year they re -release it, they bring
it out. You fucking bastards. If you're wanting
to buy these movies, you should just pin the
20th or 25th or 40th or 50th anniversary date
and say the DVD will be brought out that year.
Yeah, that's true. So we are going to move on
to Aladdin and the King of Thieves. Take it away
with the history lesson, sir. Against my will,
Aladdin and the King of Thieves is a 1996 direct
-to -video animated film made by Disney released
August 1996. It is the second unfortunate sequel
to 1992's Aladdin, following the unfortunate
first sequel, Return of Jafar. It marks the end
of the 1992 film and the Aladdin animated series.
This film grossed $186 million. making it the
fourth highest grossing director, video, or animated
feature film of all time. In 2005, the film was
re -released as a special edition DVD. But, of
course, it went back into the Disney vault in
January 2008. The film was inspired by the tale
of Alibaba and the Four Deceives from the 1001
Radiant Night. The place in Alibaba is Aladdin,
which is kind of like what Jafar called it in
the original Abuji. And for the first time since
the original Aladdin, the film has a completely
new soundtrack. instead of the rearranged music
from the original film for the Return of Jafar
and the TV series. That's all I have to say.
This one I actually liked because, alright, at
the end of Aladdin, they pretty much leave it
up in the air. You know, they say they're going
to get married, they're not sure, you know, and
then by the end of Return of Jafar, they're like,
oh, we just want to date, we don't want to get
married, and then of course the TV series starts.
And then this one, Actually, it's funny. I didn't
even know about this until I saw it on I think
Cartoon Network or Disney I saw it on like Toon
Disney or something at the time. It was still
Toon Disney not Disney XD But you know I actually
saw this on TV, and I it was like whoa Because
I knew of the Aladdin cartoon. I knew of the
cartoon series, but I just wasn't sure of this
and I actually like this one. The reason why
I like it is because of the simple fact that
it ties the story up. Like I said, that could
be good, that could be bad. I'm not saying that
it's bad. I'm not saying that it's bad. Although
I did see a couple of new names in the cast that
everybody should be familiar with. Yeah, I mean,
you know, we're not really going to go too much
into You know John Rhys Davies plays Cassine
Aladdin's long -lost father You know Jerry Orbach
as Saluk The main antagonist of the film now,
you know Wow, you know, I didn't even know that
holy crap CCH Pounder was the or Wow, I definitely
need to get that DVD two -pack now. Holy crap
Claudette whims was Wow, damn, I love the shield.
Anyway, the shield, law and order, everything.
There are a couple of new additions, but it's
pretty much the main cast. Robin Williams returns,
thank God, as the Genie. And again, nothing against...
Dan Castellaneta, but yeah Robin Williams returns
Just an overall great, you know cast You know
and again really don't have any behind -the -scenes
on this one And one of the reasons why I like
this story so much and I'm going to go right
into the plot here You know we mentioned earlier
that one of the earliest plots of Aladdin was
with his mother and they for went that they went
back and made another plot in this one with his
dad and I can't remember for certain if his father
ever mentions his mother or something or other.
I think she is mentioned to where she's dead
or something or other but I don't know, I like
how this gives them a happy ending. They're starting
their wedding or they're getting ready to get
married and and all this other stuff happens
and he finds out his father is the the king of
the forty thieves and you know he was once a
a thief him you know Aladdin was once a thief
himself for you know in order to survive I honestly
don't know where to go from here because let's
see if I can just read Aladdin and Jasmine finally
get married with Kasim attending in the shadows
as he is still wanted for his crimes. Also among
the guests are several cameos from characters
from the TV series Iago decides to join Kasim
as a traveling companion and they both go off
once again to see the world. A reprise of Arabian
Nights is then sung. The peddler makes an appearance
at the end of this film to mark the end of The
Legend of Aladdin originally planned for the
end of the first film. As Aladdin and Jasmine
fly past him and wave goodbye to Kasim and Iago.
Again, it's a nice, it's putting a nice bow tie
on the Aladdin series. It's just tying it off,
it's like wrapping up a three -month -old fruitcake.
You know, I don't know how else to describe it,
but I was more into this film than I was into
Return of Jafar. This is clearly there that there
is more of a story here It's not just about revenge
has nothing to really do with Jafar. I don't
think yeah, it has nothing to do with Jafar at
all It has to do with it brings in more mythical
legends than anything else You know my you know
King Midas in in his legendary golden touch and
all that stuff I Didn't totally hate this one
And of course, you know, you're just gonna be
repetitive and say oh I hate all Disney sequel
Yeah, well You know the music there is a sound,
you know new soundtrack Done by really honestly,
they're not I Honestly don't remember any of
the songs out of this film Obviously, like I
said, unfortunately I don't have it on DVD. I'm
going to be getting it, but I don't have it as
of right this moment. But, you know, I'm sure
they're pretty forgettable. And it's nowhere
near the acclaim and mastery of the first film
soundtrack. Going into the legacy segment here.
For the reception -like The Return of Jafar,
the film received mostly mixed response, only
slightly higher this time, while top critics
gave it a 22 % Rotten rating. The user community
gave the movie a mainly positive 59 % fresh rating
on Rotten Tomatoes. Two comic adaptations of
the movie were on sale September 1996. Let's
see, William's many impersonations included a
live -action character he portrayed, the title
character of the 1993 comedy film, Mrs. Doubtfire.
At the very end of the credits, the genie appears
in the front of the black screen and says, Game
over, man, game over. This is a spoof of identical
lines by the character of Private William Hudson
in the movie Aliens. Is this all trivia? I don't
know. It probably is. Alibaba and the Forty Thieves
are mentioned at the beginning of the song Friend
Like Me from the first Aladdin movie. Oh wow,
I never noticed that. During the song Father
and Son, Genie references the Jetsons, oh my
god. Various references include Pocahontas, Pumbaa
from The Lion King, Rocky Balboa, Ed 209 from
Provo Cop, and Mickey Mouse from Steamboat Willie,
all of which Genie turned into are made with
magic. Genie transforms into a parody of Forrest
Gump during the wedding fight scene and says
Mama always said magic is as magic does oh my
god I'm gonna really have to go I can I cannot
wait till I get this now I Don't know just for
the sheer fact that it dates itself so horribly
You know the story in the film is good You know
what like I said and I hate to keep repeating
myself, but I like how it ties off the Aladdin
series but Wow, that's a lot of cheesy goodness.
So yeah, I think we're done with the Aladdin
franchise. We're going to go out to a quick break.
You're probably going to hear some ads, and we
will be back with the final thoughts and the
closing. We are back, and it is time for final
thoughts. I guess I'll let you go first because,
yeah. I'm really excited and looking forward
to going through all these Disney things that
we're going to go through. I know we're not going
to hit every Disney release that's been out or
whatever. We're not going to hit them all, especially
the 31st one. I'm really interested in watching
a bunch of these again so that I can, at the
end, figure out, you know, which ones are my
favorite, you know, which characters, which bad
guys, which good guys, which movies, which music,
soundtrack, etc. But, you know, before doing
all that, before going through all these, my
final thoughts on Aladdin would be that it's
probably my odds on favorites to come out on
top at the end of everything. You know, there's
chances where other ones could be passing it,
Jungle Book, Lion King, Little Mermaid, all that
could be passing it, but Aladdin... At this moment
in time I would probably rank as my number one
Disney movie of all time. Yeah, I kind of agree.
It wouldn't have been bad if they had actually
forwent Return of Jafar and just had the third
film be the second film. I mean I know Return
of Jafar launched help launch the cartoon series
and we really didn't talk about the cartoon series
too much and again that's not the point excuse
me the the point of the disney animation spotlight
because it is focusing on the actual animated
feature films uh... you know we can probably
incorporate uh... was there a lion king in the
mid -series no yeah uh... for tomorrow all the
other no no i'm in an actual lion king No, no,
yeah, I mean there's to moon and poomba, but
yeah who cares about them anyway I Really really
enjoyed watching this I would probably watch
it again Maybe six seven months down the line
And again like I've been saying throughout this
entire episode that you know last night was the
first night that I had watched this film in God
four or five years Maybe more. I don't even remember
when I actually originally bought this Aladdin
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