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About this Episode

Mike and Kevin dive into Disney's Aladdin, covering the original 1992 film's production, music, characters, and lasting legacy. They discuss Robin Williams' performance as the Genie, the film's award-winning soundtrack, character favorites like Jasmine and Jafar, and why the sequels disappointed them. The episode also touches on the broader Aladdin franchise including direct-to-video sequels and the animated series.

Three years ago, we took you on a magical journey

under the sea. Last year, we took you to a place

where a beautiful girl looked into the heart

of a beast and found the man of her dreams. Now,

come with us and enter a whole new world beyond

your imagination, where a boy discovers a magic

lamp and a genie who can make all his dreams

come true. Ten thousand years will give you such

a crick in the neck! So what'll it be, master?

I must have hit my head harder than I thought.

Walt Disney Pictures presents Aladdin. You're

a genie? That's right. He can be taught. You'll

never feel like me. Imagine a whole new world

of excitement. A magic carpet. Danger. Whoa,

carpet, let's move! And enchantment. It's the

story of a poor boy from the streets and a beautiful

girl from a palace. Princess Jasmine. They were

two very different people. The law says you must

be married to a prince. Brought together by one

incredible wish. What is it you want most? There's

this girl. Pretty. Beautiful. Say, Lamon. But

she's the princess. To even have a chance, I'd

have to be, say the magic words, genie. I wish

for you to make me a prince. All right! Hang

on to your turban, kid. We're gonna make you

a star! But the evil sorcerer Jafar has learned

the secret of Aladdin's power. He has the lamp.

And he'll stop at nothing to steal it away. It's

time to say goodbye. We'll just see about that.

This is not done yet, boy! Imagine the world

at your command. Jeannie, I need help. Jasmine

won't even let me talk to her. No! Only to discover

the greatest power is within. Remember, be yourself.

Do you trust me? A whole new world! Don't you

dare close your eyes. Aladdin. Featuring six

new songs from the Academy Award -winning composer

of The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast.

Come over here, big group hug. Group hug, never!

Never! Coming this holiday season Walt Disney

Pictures Aladdin Hello and welcome to the 31st

episode of Tooncast brought to you by the Geekcast

Radio Network. I'm your host if you're on mic

and today I'm joined once again by Kevin from

Mr. Boss and K -Dog Thompson. Hello. How's it

going? Pretty good, how are you? Alright, thanks

a lot. Today we are going to be continuing the

Disney animation spotlight. We took a little

break for the holidays where we talked, I believe

that episode ran three hours, 27 minutes and

52 seconds. And even without the audio, even

without the additional audio that I put in for

each of the shows, the conversations that we

had totaled two hours, 36 minutes. Today like

I said, we're continuing the Disney Animation

Spotlight with the Aladdin franchise So what

or how you been? What are you been up to? Actually,

I just did a thing where I went through and allied,

or a combination of both, watching the episode,

looking at the official script dialogue from

Transformers, and doing a lot of allying and

stuff like that. And I have basically totaled

every character in Transformers 1. From people

that have no lines to the person that has the

most lines, I actually have specific numbers

of how many lines they have per episode, per

season, and then total for the entire G1. And

I'm going to be incorporating that into something

with BehindTheWayFactors .com, but that does

a lot of work. Yeah, I would imagine so. Optimus

Prime has the most with 1 ,400 lines. I mean,

that's not the exact amount, but I don't remember

what I have it all written down, but in the 1400s

is how many lines you had over the series. Wow.

Yeah, I plan on getting that set probably by

February, hopefully. It's actually funny, TV

shows on DVD .com just released a news article

today. uh... shout factory releasing seasons

three and four of the single sets it's going

to be season three and season four in one set

and they are ahead artwork for it and it's rather

missed uh... holding the matrix like it's open

with galvatron pretty much underneath him uh...

unicron's head to the side and then cyclonus

to the other side so that's pretty cool but i

i still just want the big set i don't want to

have by the individual ones Even though it is

the same thing. I just I want the matrix damn

it Yeah By the time this episode actually airs

it will be five days after Christmas So we have

probably already opened all of our gifts by the

time you're gonna hear this Really isn't too

much else going on We've hopefully had a good

Christmas. You know, they're a good Christmas.

Yeah Just don't get too drunk on New Year's So,

yeah, all right, well we are going to Take a

break. We'll be right back with a lead Salam

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It once changed the course of a young man's life.

A young man who liked this lamp was more than

what he seemed. A diamond in the rough. Perhaps

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a dark night. Where a dark man waits with a dark

purpose. We are back, and it is time for the

history lesson. Take it away, Professor. Alright,

Aladdin is a 1992 American animated adventure

film produced obviously by Walt Disney, feature

animation. It is the 31st. animated feature in

the Walt Disney animated classic series. The

film was directed by John Metzger and Alan Clements

and is based on the air folk tale of Aladdin

and the Magic Land from One Thousand and One

Nights. The lyrics of Power of Ashman first pitch

the idea and the screenplay had to go through

three drafts before Disney President Jeffrey

Capito greenlighted the production. The musical

score was written by Alan Menken and features

six songs with lyrics written by both Ashman

and Tim Rice, who took over after Ashman's death.

Aladdin was released on November 26, 1992, two

days after my birthday. It's a positive review,

despite some criticism from Arabs who consider

the film racist, and it was the most successful

film of 1992, earning over $217 million in revenue

in the U .S. and over $504 million worldwide.

The film also won many awards, most of them for

its soundtrack. Before we get into the general

memories, I just have to bring up something.

We had discussed off -air how we're gonna continue

the Disney animation spotlight after this four

episode set of Aladdin Sword in the Stone Oliver

and Company and Jungle Book And you mentioned

that it was the 31st film in the Disney lineup

Well, you know 31st film 31st episode. I didn't

even plan it that way Oh, the other thing we

were going to mention, and I kind of forgot,

since we're doing all this Disney spotlight,

for those of you listening, we went with Snow

White and Cinderella right off the bat, Snow

White being lower on some of the worst. And now

we are changing up and going with some of our

favorites. So we did some of the original ones,

and now we're doing some of our favorites. And,

you know, later on we'll get into more Disney

stuff, obviously. It was Snow White and Sleeping

Beauty. Cinderella's not that much better. Yeah,

we're going with some of our favorites, and honestly

Aladdin is one of my favorites. I'm not saying

that it isn't, but The Sword and the Stone and

Oliver and Company. were you know back then before

Aladdin even came out those two films back you

know again it all goes back to when we were growing

up in the eighties I never knew that half these

films were made before I was born I thought the

same thing you know I I don't know if you had

a chance to listen to episode 21 before you were

had gotten no longer interactions but you know

television and I said Matt you know the same

thing with the Flintstones and Jensen's the Flintstones

I never knew it was made before my time. I thought

I was running Ken Curran as I was growing up.

Same thing with these and that's why I picked

out those two as my favorites and I believe Jungle

Book is Jungle Book one of your favorites? Jungle

Book and Aladdin are probably. I'd have to really

look at things if I was going to actually come

up with a list and give numbers out. Aladdin

and Jungle Book are hard to beat. I love Aladdin.

I think what was cool about Aladdin was the fact

that even though like the other ones all felt

like they were new like I remember just having

like movie nights where we'd watch Disney Channel

or you know my parents would have rented a Disney

video or whatever we'd have you know popcorn

sitting on the couch and you know it was stuff

like Heuristic Cat and you know Jungle Book and

it all felt new to me. The thing with Aladdin

though it has that extra aura of not only did

it feel new but this is like even in the theater

you know what I mean like this is like it's in

the theater it's happening and it's like so much

Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, actually it's very funny

home I actually got in trouble the night that

this premiered My dad was gonna go take me and

my cousin to see it and I got in trouble So we

couldn't go so I actually had a chance to see

this the night it premiered in theaters But it

didn't happen because I remember the blitz. I

remember the media blitz and the buzz on this

movie there were lines at movie theaters out

the door around the block six blocks down straight

I guarantee you anybody that remembers you know

I believe it was I could have sworn it was Christmas

Day not November 25th but I don't know I could

be wrong but anyway I remember you know hearing

people say oh my god the line was out the door

but the movie was so great and blah blah blah

The reason you probably don't remember is because

it came, even though it came out in November,

it didn't really become like super popular until

the week after Christmas. Right, yeah. It was

a week between Christmas and New Year's where

this thing just like solidified across and became

what it was. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Just great characters,

great voice acting, I mean, you know. You can't...

There's not much bad you can say about this.

No, not at all. I have nothing wrong... I don't

even think I have anything wrong with the story

other than the fact that Jafar is just creepy.

I mean, he is probably... I have one thing I

just watched going through, going through it

again. I actually just finished watching it,

re -watching it. And I was even trying to be

picky. I'm like, I don't want this to sound like

I'm just like all over Aladdin and it's the greatest

thing ever. So I'm like, I'm gonna watch this.

and try to take it apart and try to find something

and I maybe found one thing and we'll get to

that later but it's like one tiny little detail

on the whole movie is all I could come up with

when I was trying to look for stuff. Normally

when I don't like films or when I don't like

cartoons or whatever I will you know I'll sit

at my computer and I'll watch them because that's

what I use is I use my computer as a DVD player

and you know If it's something that just isn't

captivating my interest, you know, I'll sit there

and I will watch like 45 minutes or, you know,

say you take, you know, a two hour movie. I'll

sit there and watch 45 minutes, pause it, go

do something else, come back to it, you know,

an hour or so later, and start it up where I

left off. But with this, when I was watching

it the night before, last night before we did

this recording, I sat through it all the way

through. didn't pause it, didn't have to get

up, didn't have to do anything. I went and I

got a soda and I sat down and I watched it the

whole way through and it is just a great, great

film. And it's actually a really quick hour and

a half. I think it's 90 minutes or 92 minutes

or something like that, but it literally goes

by super fast, in my opinion. You sit down and

watch it and you're like, I don't know. Maybe

because it has no full parts of the jar was entertained,

but you're finished watching it and it seems

like it was like a half hour And it was actually

an hour and a half, you know, normally on some

films I will say they took too long or some things

dragged out too much or they didn't they They

didn't take enough time. It ended too quick.

Like the like the pacing was way too fast in

this film I didn't feel it took too long, and

I didn't feel it wrapped up too quick. It was

a cursive. Right. And I think another thing was,

at least maybe from, you know, I'm trying to

come at it from an unbiased opinion here, but

I think part of it has to do with I was the perfect

age when this came out, too. Because I was 11.

I had just turned 11 when this came out. And,

you know, an 11 -year -old boy, going to see

a Disney movie, a lot of them you would want

to go see as an 11 year old boy because you're

starting to get maybe too cool for some of the

Disney fairy tale type stuff and Aladdin was

just perfect. You could let your guard down and

be watching a Disney fairy tale type movie and

not You know, not that you're really that worried

at 11 about your, you know, stuff like that,

but you can just let your guard down and have

some fun with it because not only was it the

Disney stuff that you grew up with and kind of

liked like that, but it was cool for guys. Like,

it was just a cool, you know, humor you had,

fighting, and it was just like, it was perfect

for, you know, like a 9th and 11th, 12th year

old boy. Right. I guess we can go into the characters

and cast and voice actors and all that stuff.

Just great. Go ahead. And one thing before we

start mentioning a couple of names, it's a big

step for, I mean on Tooncast we do a lot, obviously

we do mostly cartoon series that were aired on

TV, you know, half hour increments, stuff like

that. What we've been showing in these animated

movies. And this is really a turning point for

those animated movies, because this is going

to be the first time where you have a major mix

of not only voice actors that we talk about every

week on Tooncast, you know, the cartoon voice

actors, but now you bring in famous voice actors,

which everybody probably takes for granted and

probably thinks that's just how it's always been

done, but really Aladdin is where that started.

Before Aladdin, you didn't have big name people

doing animated work in movies and this is what

starts that and since this movie it seems like

it's been the norm on every other movie but this

is a perfect example of a mixture of both big

name people and your classic cartoon voice actors.

I mean outside of the Aladdin name being the

name of the film and being the name of the main

character The first thing that pops out to me,

and should pop out to anybody, the actor's name,

Robin Williams as the Genie. I mean, you know,

Robin Williams had top billing on this film.

He just does. pretty famous at the time, even

though he doesn't have that famous name, he was

not an awful official. He was popular at the

time. So you have those three that are just like,

boom, you know the people. If you see them, you

know who they are. You know the name. And then

you pair that with, you know, like Jim Cummings

and Frank Welker. And it's just like, it's the

best of both worlds. Right. And I, you know,

I You know, it's funny, since I started this

show, or since we started this show, I always

look for... I've been looking for animal sounds

now. Trying to figure out who is who. Now, unfortunately,

I could have sworn that a certain voice actor,

who I will mention here in a minute, was also

the voice of the tiger, but he's not, unfortunately.

But Frank Welker plays Abu. Just awesome. And

actually one thing I learned when I was doing

my stuff at BehindTheVoiceActors .com with Frank

Welker, I had been going through and finding

all his voices on all the different cartoons

and whatnot. And I had kind of ignored the movie

because I didn't realize he was in movies. Like

I didn't know he had done voice work in animated

movies. And once I started getting turned on

to looking at what movies he's been in, it seems

like every Disney movie of my lifetime, obviously

not the ones from the 50s or whatever, but all

the Disney movies that have come out since I've

been alive, he's been in them somehow. And it's

always an animal character or this or that, and

I just never knew he had been in all those. And

actually, today watching it, I never had realized

that he was the Cave of Wonders boy. He was see

I didn't know never I knew he was you know I

knew he was a blue and Raja, but I never knew

He was the cave of wonders and I'm watching it

today, and I'm like that voice. I'm like who?

That's and I'm looking at my sheet, and I'm like

that is Frank Walker I actually now have something

to add to his page on that And then of course

you know and see I didn't know I see I thought

I could have sworn when I was doing research

for this or No, it was when I was watching the

credits, I was looking for the names. I was looking

for the names of the... because I have the Tudis

Platinum Edition DVD of this. Looking for the

credits and the names because I wanted to know

who voiced Apu. Er, not Apu, that's... Apu. Not

Apu. Yes, we are not at the Quiggy Mart, you

cannot have a slushie. Um... Um, Apu... It did

not list him in the credits on the DVD as the

tiger. And that's why I said a second ago that

I was surprised that he wasn't the voice of that

animal, but apparently he is. Yeah, he is. But

he's not credited on the DVD as being so. And

I don't think he's credited for being the case

of wonders either. I think he only gets credited

for a boob, but looking online he does do the

voices of all three of those. I just never knew

about the case of wonders. Something interesting

about Frank Welter is that we don't usually get

too much into what we have written down for the

voice actors, but a couple things I found interesting,

and it says that in the three years it took to

record the film, Frank Welter never met Aladdin

or Scott Wanger or Robin Williams. So that's

kind of the... In fact, I went through that whole

thing and never had the need either one of those

two. And I can't be for certain on this, but

I think Disney's process or, you know, is they

record each actor. They don't do an ensemble

like a lot of other shows do. Like if you look

at Justice League and Justice League Unlimited,

Andrea Romano, who is the voice director for

those cartoons, she brings in seven, all seven

actors or eight actors or however many people,

and they record ensembles. So they're all in

the room together saying the lines back and forth.

You know, and I don't know if Disney does that

process. I think that they do it, you know, they

bring one actor into a booth, have them record

the lines, and then they, you know, on and on

and on. It'd be kind of cool to find out if it

was Ensemble. Obviously it really isn't for this

film because if Welker never met them. Yeah,

or maybe it was for just certain things. A couple

other things, probably what's funny is in order

to secure Robin Williams, it says that They actually

recorded a whole thing. They animated the genie

doing a bunch of Robin Williams stand -up and

send it to him. They tried to entice him to do

it and he apparently thought it was hilarious

and came on board. We'll get more into Robin

Williams a little bit later. I got two other

things just with the characters. One is the Sultan.

I've never realized that that character was somewhat

inspired in The Wizard of Oz. It was kind of

having that bumbling authority figure. I thought

that was kind of interesting. And the other one

I got, I gave another shout out or nod to Jim

Cummings because I never realized that was him

until today. And then watching when Razul, the

captain of the guard, things like that. He has

a very famous voice and sure enough, we have

Jim Cummings, so it was just an awesome job.

specifically wanted to watch the credits last

night when I watched the film to see who voiced

who because as everybody knows and I've said

this before I don't because I do all the the

behind -the -scenes technical crap for this show

I don't read the scripts I don't look through

the information before we do records I just don't

because sometimes I like to be surprised you

know isn't who's in water what's in who and he

is not listed in the credits as far as I can

tell now maybe I didn't Let the credits play

far enough down to see, but he is not listed

as the voice of... The voice of Razul, as far

as I can tell from what parts of the credits

I did see, isn't even listed. Maybe I need to

go back and look through the credits again on

the DVD, but, you know, just... Overall great

characters as far as mr.. Godfried. Oh my god

is Iago He actually will fin the animator tried

to incorporate some aspects of Godfried's appearance

into Iago's design especially his semi -closed

eyes and the always appearing teeth um which

Again, it just goes to show you how much these

animators go to bringing the voice actors to

life in the animation And a lot of times, since

Robin Williams did improv on a lot of this stuff,

they'd have to wait to see what he was going

to say first and then go back and animate to

his voice and to his line. So I mean, the animators

in this one should have been commended big time

because this had to be a challenge to do this.

I mean, it had to be a lot of fun, but it had

to be a big time challenge to do this as well.

I got one thing. We always ask this question,

and usually it's a fairly easy question to answer.

But I think it would be maybe super hard to answer.

So I want to ask you first so I can have another

second to think about it. But do you have a favorite

character? Well, Jafar would be my least favorite.

Jafar is just... He's a creepy... I'm trying

to think of the right word. He's a creepy non

-dwarf. old man basically take one of the seven

dwarfs you know stretch them out to be about

six foot whatever and that's Jafar. I mean he

is single -handedly outside of Maleficent I think

he is single -handedly the worst Disney villain

ever. Meaning like scariest like badass? Yep,

scary but he's gonna shoot your ass off. Okay,

so not like bad like they did a bad job No, I

mean, no, I don't know when I say single worst

villain ever in Disney I mean the baddest of

the bad villains like, you know He and Maleficent

should go fucking get married and and and have

a evil thorny castle in the in the woods I think

that's a given. I would have to say Jafar is

my least favorite too and I hate doing that because

it's just like the easy answer. I especially

dislike him when he's an old man disguised in

the prison jail cell. That's especially creepy.

You know, I hate to call him the main bad guy

as my lead favorite character, but I don't know

how you pick anybody else in this movie as your

lead favorite character. He's not redeemable

at all. Like, there are some villains where you

can redeem them. Like we mentioned in the Christmas

episode with Professor What's -Is -Nuts, Professor

Hinkle in Frosty. That character is a redeemable

villain. This character, Ja 'ar, is not. Not

at all. Yeah, and I think you asked... ten people

who are the least favorite character in this

movie is, I think, ten of them give you the fodder.

I think it's a clear ten for ten. I think it's

really hard, though, to pick a favorite character

in this movie. There are a lot of scenes that

I love. Now, I was reading in here some of the

other, some of the, there's another bullet point

down after, after the rifle thing, where some

of the magic carpet and everything else. uh...

right before that uh... it says robin williams

as the narrator now i was watching this this

uh... what we all last night never knew that

before that robin williams was a little shopkeeper

narrator but i would as i was watching it last

night i i listened to the voice and it it's not

going to be there considered doing a double role

where the narrator was actually the genie in

disguise. I'm kind of glad they didn't do that,

though. I think I change. Every time I watch

it, I have a different favorite character. I

know out of all the hero, good guy, whatever

in all the Disney movies, that Aladdin is probably

my favorite character out of those. I don't know

if he's my favorite character in this movie,

but I know I always, as a kid, wanted to be Aladdin.

Like, I've done some figure work and stuff like

that, and if I ever had the chance to play Aladdin,

I would be ecstatic, because that's just an awesome

role. I don't know, I really like the magic carpet,

and we can't go without talking about Jasmine

a little bit, because, and the reason I bring

that up is because when Whatever episode that

was that we talked about Snow White. Episode

29? Yeah, 29. Yeah, in episode 29 I talked about

how Snow White was the worst heroine, you know,

the worst lead lady in a Disney movie ever. Jasmine

might be the best. Yeah, I would have to agree.

I don't know if I'd say that she's the best.

Maybe after we do our whole Disney spotlight

and I've rewatched a bunch of stuff, I can make

a statement, but Jasmine, holy cow. There was

nothing bad about Jasmine. She was the opposite

of Snow White. I'll just leave it at that. Yeah,

exactly. I think I can pick one specific favorite

hero character out of this film. There was one

scene in the beginning when Aladdin and Abu are

running from the guards and Abu stops because

I think Aladdin or somebody stepped on a table

of swords or something and one of the swords

was in the ground and Abu picks it up and he

turns around and waves it at the guards. He's

like, the monkey has a sword! And then when it

comes up he goes, you fool, we all have swords!

Yeah, it's almost like the Indiana Jones where

the guy's waving a sword and they're like, wait

a second, we have guns. I just, this movie, when

I watched it, at the parts that are supposed

to be funny, I could not stop laughing. And I

haven't watched this in a long time. I mean,

I don't even know when this two disc platinum

edition came out. I honestly have no idea. I

mean, we'll get to it once we get to the legacy

segment, but I bought it off of, like, Amazon

or something, and sometimes I buy DVDs because

I want them for... Well, now that I'm doing podcasting,

I want them for specific things, but back then

I would buy DVDs just to have them. Oh my god,

I need that movie in my collection. And one of

the things where I looked at the bonus features

on it, I never actually watched the film. And

that was a good two or three years ago from now.

Yeah, and I think the thing with this one, I've

never had a movie, I don't think I've ever, I

can't recall a movie off the top of my head where

I can't pick out one favorite character or at

least two favorite characters. And this one,

I mean, Jasmine, Aladdin, Abu, Genie, Magic,

Carpet, like, you can go on and on, how do you

distinguish one from the other? You know what

I mean? I've never had that dilemma where it's

been that hard to pick a favorite character.

You know what I want to say, and I know this

probably won't ever happen, but I would love

to see Robin Williams do his comedy routines,

but I want Genie doing it. Like this is Robin

Williams animated or this is you know the genie

featuring Robin Williams or something like that

I want to the genie is by far the funniest character

in the film He may be the funniest Disney character

of all time Yeah I mean I don't want to make

a bunch of statements like that you know early

on in these Disney spotlights maybe we can do

that at the end but he's got to be up if he is

not he's Way up there. I mean this this wasn't

just like your funny little sidekick Like Iago

would have been this work hands down matter if

you were four years old or if you were 40 years

old The genie was funny to you, right, right?

Okay, so I guess so we have anything else we

want to say about the the voice actors I find

it foot just What? Just fantastic voice acting

in this yeah um You know, I find it very well

done in this film how they transition the actual

voice actor to the sink And a lot of times you

can't even tell the difference I couldn't because

now a lot of times it's impossible to tell the

difference like I know Well, we should just mention

that rather Williams does his own singing at

least for the couple funds He does not do his

own thing as the narrator though when they do

that, Tom. Aladdin and Jasmine both have separate

people doing their voices when they sing. I mean,

there's a lot of different actors coming in and

singing, and a lot of times, yeah, that's almost

impossible to tell the difference. I should say

that even though I think the voice acting is

awesome in there, maybe we should dislike Robin

Williams for the fact that because he did such

a good job in that, All of a sudden it became

the norm to bring in big names. I'm anti bringing

in big names for every animated movie like they've

been doing since then. Well, maybe Robin Williams

did too good of a job. I think it depends. It

depends on the film. It depends. You know, and

I will maintain this opinion on anything. It

depends on the film and if the actor fits the

role. See, Robin Williams could disguise his

voice enough where it wasn't necessary. I mean,

you knew it was Robin Williams, but it wasn't

like... He sounded the same all the time, and

I'll bring up one that I don't remember which

animated movie he's in, but Ray Romano's in one.

And that just bothers me because it's his voice

the whole time and he doesn't do anything with

it. And I'm like, I'm listening to Ray Romano

as a cartoon and I'm not enjoying that. You're

talking about Ice Age, right? I think it's Ice

Age. You know, if you're going to be a voice

actor that does a major role in an animated movie,

you need to have the ability to to change your

voice or to do different things with the tone

and the pitch. So it doesn't feel like you're

watching everybody loves Raymond Ice Age version.

Yeah, but the difference is with Williams, while

he is no -mel -blank, he is damn close to another

man of a thousand voices because he can disguise

himself as anything. Yeah, and that's what I

think you have to be. If you're going to be a

big name that's going to do animated movies,

you need to be that good. But I mean if it's

a straight -shooting character such as say Well,

no, no, I mean character if it's a straight Yeah,

Toy Story, yeah Yeah, exactly woody. I mean you

can't do set, you know sound effect. The genie

role was made for robin williams because he's

a comedian the genie is supposed to be a comedian

it's supposed to make you laugh so uh... as far

as other names you know big names in in animated

film again at you know i will always say it just

depends on the film it depends on the on on the

role that they are asked to do uh... i agree

with you that it depends i just i just have found

that more times than not i'd just like when it's

a voice that I know, and they've done that exact

same voice that they did in their real life.

We won't get to this for a while, but I'm going

to ask you now, and I will ask you once we get

to it. What do you think of Ferris Bueller as

Simba? Because Matthew Broderick is the adult

Simba. Yeah. I don't know if it was at the time

I didn't know Matthew Broderick as well. Or if

it was just somehow... Did he use his exact same

voice? I think so. I don't think they changed

it. I mean, the Simba character is different

obviously than Ferris Bueller, so I don't think

he talked to the camera or anything like that,

but I mean... He now didn't bother me as much,

and so that kind of supports your argument there,

where it kind of depends on who it is. I think

what happens with it though is when it's bad,

it stands out in my mind so much more. And when

it's someone that does a good job and I don't

mind it, I almost don't even realize that it

was someone that I knew that did it. And it kind

of just, you know, like sails over your head

like you don't even realize it. Until later on

you look at a script or a voice cast and they

say, wait a second, that was what, you know,

it's like what we did with, you know, a few characters

in this film. Wait a second, you did that guy

too? Right, exactly. So is that it for the voice

actors? Yeah, I think we're ready to go behind

the scenes. Well, we will go behind the scenes

right after this. Okay, we didn't really go out

to break. We just had to, yeah. Anyway, up next

is the behind the scenes segment. And where would

you like to start? I think there's some good

stuff right away here. Basically, the idea was

pitched in 1988. And after some songs were written

and screenplays done or whatever, you know, partnering

up with some people that had worked on Beauty

and the Beast, they basically got to the point

where it got to the directors, and I think this

is interesting, the directors, which were mentioned

before, John Lester and Ryan Clement, were basically

picking, they had three projects that were offered

to them, and they were picking one of them. And

listen to the choices they had. A project about

Swan Lake, a project entitled King of the Jungle,

which eventually does become The Lion King. And

then they have Aladdin. So I mean, is that a

no -lose situation? Yeah. Pick between Swan Lake,

Lion King, and Aladdin, and don't screw it up.

But they delivered it to Jeffrey Kastenberg.

I don't know, I have missed it. They delivered

it to him in 1991, and he thought the script

didn't engage, and basically denied it and wouldn't

approve it until after another screenwriting

duo rewrote it, which is Ted Elliott and Terry

Rosio. Look at these changes. These are things

I never knew about, and I kind of find them interesting.

The character of Aladdin's mother was renewed,

so the original version had Aladdin's mother

in there. basically made Princess Jasmine a stronger

character and Aladdin's personality was rewritten

to be a little rougher, kind of like a young

Harrison Ford. Which I think was interesting,

they kind of originally had Aladdin being a younger

character that was with his mom and they basically

went from having him be a 12 or a 13 year old

to having him basically what I would consider

as being like a 18, 19 year old. What age do

you picture Aladdin being? I don't picture him

any older than maybe seven. I would say he's

He's got to be anywhere from 17 to 21 And I would

have to say again that that Jasmine I would say

she's anywhere from over 18 to about 20. I don't

know why, but I almost always got the impression,

and maybe it's just because he was kind of the

street rat and she was the princess, which you

usually get the opposite impression, but I got

the impression that Jasmine was older than Aladdin.

Well, you know, that's fine. I mean, we could

say that Aladdin's 19 and we could say that she's

22, 23, but... No, I just find it odd because

you usually always picture in that type of story

that the guy is a little bit older than the girl

or maybe that's just tradition, you know, whatever.

But the way that Jasmine presented herself, yeah,

I would put her, you know, 20 or 19 and Aladdin,

you know, 17, 18 or something like that. And

then a couple of the other things, let's see

here. Yeah, so as an early experience, we played

Aladdin, being him a little bit younger, and

he had a mother in the story. In design, he became

more athletic -looking, more photo of a young

leading man, more of a teenage version than he

was originally, which I think was a good move.

And they said basically that Aladdin was designed

by a team that originally made him to resemble

actor Michael J. Fox, but during production it

was decided that the design was too boyish and

wasn't appealing enough. So the character was

redesigned to add elements derived from Tom Cruise

and Calvin Klein models. I would have never pictured

Tom Cruise or Calvin Klein models when I see

Aladdin, but Michael J. Fox might not have worked

out his show. I mean, I know we're not reading

this all the way through, but I found, I was

reading earlier right below the Harrison Ford

thing, Something interesting about Iago, the

parrot, who was originally conceived as a British

calm and serious character, was reworked into

comic role after the filmmakers saw Gilbert Godfrey

in Beverly Hills Cop 2. Godfrey was cast to provide

Iago's voice, several characters, and plot elements

also based on the 1940s version of The Thief

of Baghdad and many aspects of the traditional

story were changed for the film. Now... I'm glad

they did that because I wouldn't have liked him

as a British serious. character. I'm not a Gilbert

Godfrey fan, but I think he was perfect for this

role. There are only three things that I can

think of at this moment in time that I actually

absolutely love him in. Beverly Hills Cop II,

because he was just awesome in that, one scene

that he was in. This, you know, the Aladdin franchise.

That's right. He played, I'm trying to get this

right, Mixy is piddly in Superman the animated

series. He was the voice of of mixing in the

So, you know, those are the three things that

I absolutely like him in I don't mind when he

appeared on Hollywood Squares But I mean, you

know, it's he's just not an actor you can really

stomach for long periods of time Going behind

the scenes with a little bit with the genie here.

It says that the directors created the genie

with Robin Williams in mind, even though it had

some very suggested actors such as John Candy,

Steve Martin, and Eddie Murphy. I am a huge John

Candy fan, but thank God he makes Steve Martin

or Eddie Murphy the genie. It would not have

been the same. Williams was approached and eventually

accepted the role. Williams came for voice recording

sessions during breaks and the screening of two

other films he assigned and at the time it would

be Hook and Toys. It's much worse movies than

Aladdin. Unusually for an animated film, much

of Williams' dialogue was ad -libbed. For some

things Williams was given topics and dialogues

and allowed him to improvise his lines. It was

estimated that Williams improvised 52 characters.

the supervisor and the animator for Bikini then

reviewed his dialogue and thought that the crew

would match, and a lot of their stuff was stuff

they couldn't do that doesn't even count. Right.

Well, I mean, Robin Williams, let's be honest.

Robin Williams, in his stand -up, is a very vulgar

person. I'm not saying that against the man.

There is an audience and a venue for vulgarity.

uh... because i've actually seen some of his

some of his stand -up not in person obviously

but i've seen like video yeah and since there's

a lot and you know uh... you know i think he

understood that you know hey this is disney we

got to kind of keep it g or p g or whatever really

can't throw around f bombs or as bombs or anything

like that uh... but go back to the different

suggestions no Robin Williams is a he's one of

those comedians to me that is just off -the -cuff

funny and I don't mean off -the -cuff I mean

Steve Martin can do funny but Steve Martin John

Candy and Eddie Murphy they're more physical

humor sometimes Sometimes, not all the time,

but sometimes. I swear Eddie Murphy would have

done this, would have been the kiss of death

like it is on every other thing he does. Come

on now, everybody loves Donkey. Everybody loves

Donkey. Yeah, that's true, but a lot of his stuff

just bombs like crazy. Alright, well, anyway.

Candy, there's no way. There's no way I can see...

The dude from, oh I forget what his character

name was in that movie. There's no way I can

see him from planes, trains, and automobiles

in this. I could see him doing it more than I

could see Steve Martin or Eddie Murphy for some

reason. I'm saying that there's no way I could

see Steve Martin at a... at a marketplace counter

in this animated film saying, I want a fucking

fish or whatever he says to the car rental lady

in Plains Transautomobiles. Robin Williams was

the only choice. If you had to have a big name,

you may have been able to find strictly voice

actors that could have done it, but you weren't

going to find an actual actor besides Robin Williams.

Oh yeah, exactly. The producers added a bunch

of in -jokes and references to Disney's previous

works in the film. We had a cameo appearance

from the directors. And you had drawn some characters

based on Disney workers in there. And then you

had some of the specific cameos. And actually,

this last time, I was looking for these to see

if I could find them. I did. I found two out

of the three. I found Sebastian from The Little

Mermaid. There's a scene, just in case the viewers

want to look for this, or listen to it. Aladdin's

asked to be a prince, the genie pulls out a book

and he's looking for different things and he's

got something king and then he has like a crab

king or a kingfish or something and he pulls

out Sebastian. So that's from The World Mermaid.

There's a point when Aladdin says something and

he says he's going to grant him his freedom and

he turns into Pinocchio. I didn't see the beast

from Beauty and the Beast. Did you see that somewhere?

No, but that wasn't the one I think. At the very

end and now this really isn't Disney animation.

It's more of a Disney Merchandising at the very

end when he blasts off To go wherever he's gonna

go on vacation. He is wearing a goofy hat remember

Disney has those those That's that are yeah,

but no I looked for it, I think I would have

to like freeze frame some of the things where

he's going real quick through different things

to see where that is. I thought it was going

to be where he was getting his mode of transportation

and he did a camel and then he did like, it switched

like three or four things right in the road before

he got to the elephant. But I couldn't freeze

frame it. It could have been during the parade,

like after Abu was turned into the elephant.

and they start up with the song because they

have this big production in there somewhere but

I don't know if anyone who listens to this episode

that would like to inform us if you know where

if the genie turns into beast from Beauty and

the Beast you can send us an email at gcrintunecast

.gmail .com and let us know but I caught the

I actually had to go back and I kind of caught

Sebastian, but I wasn't sure. I just wasn't sure,

and then I rewound a little bit and like, ding.

Yeah, I wish there would have been even more

though. I think that's hilarious because it wasn't

like they were doing it and beating you over

the head with it. It wasn't where they were making

it completely obvious. They were just like little

quick boom boom boom type things and you had

to really be paying attention to, except for

the Pinocchio one. That one kind of just comes

out there. But I like how they were kind of more

subtle with that. I don't know if you want to

talk at all about the behind -the -scenes conflicts

or not. Yes, we're definitely going to be talking

about the conflicts. In gratitude for his success

with Disney's touchstone film Good Morning Vietnam,

Robin Williams voiced the genie for SAG's scale

pay, $75 ,000, on condition that his name or

image not be used for marketing as supporting

character not to take more than 25 % of space

on advertising artwork. Since Toys was scheduled

for release one month after Aladdin's debut,

for financial reasons, the studio went back on

the deal in both counts, especially in poster

art having the genie in 25 % of the image, but

having other major supporting characters portrayed

considerably smaller. The Disney -Hyperion book,

Aladdin, the making of an animated film, listed

both William's characters, the Febler and the

genie, ahead of the main characters, which was

forced to refer to him only as the actor signed

to play the genie. Williams and Disney had a

bitter falling out as a result. Dan Castellaneta,

Homer Simpson, voiced the genie in The Return

of Jafar and the Aladdin anime and television

series. Anne had recorded his voice for Aladdin

and the King of Thieves when Jeffrey Katzenberg

was fired from Disney and replaced by former

20th Century Fox production head Joe Roth, whose

last act at Fox was greenlighting Williams' film

Mrs. Doubtfire. Roth arranged for a public apology

to Williams by Disney. Williams agreed to perform

in Hollywood Pictures' Jack, directed by Francis

Ford Coppola, and even agreed to voice the Genie

again for the King of Thieves sequel for considerably

more than scale, replacing all of Castellan in

his dialogue. Um, it's been - What? Well, you

know, he's - he he's douching it up over at dream

work so you know uh... stand to be the business

man at the end of the summer it all uh... and

i wonder how castle and i felt about this i mean

you know honestly i don't think you know i'm

not going to speak for dana i can't even presumed

to speak for dana castle and i but i would think

that that would have kind of just bounced off

his back because hell nineteen ninety two That

was the height of the Simpsons. Right. I mean,

he was in, you know, 91, 92. He was in Simpsons

mania, for Christ's sake. But, you know, I mean,

actors are, I mean, you know, different, you

know, different for each, each thing. I mean,

if you're gonna get screwed out of something,

then, you know, you're gonna... I think the thing

that... I don't know. Again, we can't speak for

him. I mean, I don't think he would have minded

had they told him, we don't need you for the

third movie, because he would have had more time

on his hands since you were so busy. But I think

the fact that he recorded most of it and then

they just didn't use it might be something that

some voice actors might get pissed off about.

I don't know. Obviously, we can't speak for him.

But it's a little different than from saying,

OK, we use you on the second one. We don't need

you on the third one, than saying, We recorded

all the dialogue, but we're not going to use

any of it. Yeah I don't know if that's I don't

have to talk to more voice actors to see how

those two things Differ and how the reactions

are how they take them, but it's definitely interesting

little Scenario there that happens Yes, it is

Are we done with this do we want to go? I mean

this thing is one tons of awards nominations

and It won two Academy Awards best music original

score best music original song for a whole new

world and Receiving nominations for best song

friend like me Which yeah, I had that stuck in

my head for 45 minutes last night It has won

a ton of awards. You can just go down the line.

Academy Awards, Emmy Awards, Golden Globe Awards,

Grammy Awards, MTV Awards. Most of them are for

the music and the songs, but some of them are

for best animated or motion pictures. Some of

them are for young actors like Scott Winder.

There's just a ton of awards for this show. We've

kind of mentioned the directors before, Clements

and what was the other guy's name? Crap. I can't

think now. Anyway, um... I think it was Musker.

Yeah, Musker and Clements, there we go. I don't

know what it was with me when I was doing the

research for this. I didn't write any of them

down. So yeah, people directed it, people wrote

it, that's it. There you go. I think it's really

cool that they used different aspects of different

things for the behind the scenes stuff. I guess

we can get into the actual show. I'm ready for

my five second recap. You're ready for your what?

I think we have a 30 second recap. Five seconds?

It went from a 30 second recap to a five second

recap. Wow. No, 30 -second recap. Give me more

time. I'll try anyway, though. All right. So

basically, we start with we've got the street

rat guy causing crimes and problems out on the

streets in this city that we're going to call

Agrabah. Princess gets sick of trying to be hooked

up with a prince. She goes out into the street,

meets the street rat. They have a little moment,

whatever. The people come in. Big, bad Jafar

takes Aladdin to the cave to get in his lamp.

Aladdin gets stuck in the cave. Jafar doesn't

get in his lamp. Aladdin rubs lamp. Genie comes

out, gets out of the cave, makes himself a transfer.

They ask him to be halfway up or after. Jafar

tries to basically kill him. Are you interrupting

my recap? I'm sorry, but he tries to kill him

three different times. Yeah. We basically tried

to kill him a couple different times. You know,

Aladdin's first wish is that he becomes the prince,

so he goes after Jasmine, and then let's see

what's happening after that. Obviously, before

he gets his last wish off, you know, I'm skipping

some stuff, but they go on their magic carpet

ride, they fall in love completely, he gets the

whole storyline that he's not being honest with

her because he's telling her she's the prince

and not the dude street rat, even though she

should know that. And then eventually Jafar gets

a hold of the lamp, becomes a sultan, becomes

sorcerer, and eventually Aladdin after being

booted a million miles away finds his way back

and tricks Jafar into wishing he was a genie.

Jafar gets trapped into the lamp. Now we're left

with Aladdin having one wish and what the prison

has to do. Does he try to make something right

with the princess or does he grant the genie

his freedom? Grant the genie his freedom. the

change of the rules, has me and Aladdin get married,

and has the other after and so the next movie.

You know, it's actually very funny. I didn't

think you were going to try to do a 5 second

or 30 second synopsis on this one because you

love it so much. I figured you'd go plot point

by plot point, but unlike that complete and utter

shit first film Disney did, which should no longer

be mentioned on this show, it'll just be known

as that that film that shall not be named uh...

you know this honestly the only problems i have

with this film is too far i mean i i understand

he's the villain i get that but the he is the

only problem that i have with this film i honestly

i mean yeah i i kinda do have a problem with

aladdin lying to them but you know again that's

part of the plot uh... so that's part of all

that you're supposed to learn from that record

Exactly. You know, I just, I have no notes. I'm

going to try to be as nitpicky as I can and say

that the only little spot that I could even,

and I still don't even think this is a big deal,

but it's the only one I could find if I was digging,

if someone paid me and I had to find something

wrong with it, is the fact that Aladdin has the

prince when he is with Jasmine. has done a couple

things that should have basically chipped off

his hand. And she has taught him doing a couple

things. He bounces the fruit off of his arm like

he had before. He peeks his hand down and says,

you trust me like you did before. I have no problem

with that. I have no problem with the fact that

she figures it out. I think that is great that

she's not stupid. She figures it out. And then

she says something about a boo and catches him

talking about a boo. And he shouldn't know about

a boo because he's a prince and not a lab. This

all is fine and good. I like it. Absolutely done.

It's my only teeny tiny nitpicky thing is later

on Jafar makes a huge big deal like he's unveiling

this to the princess for the first time where

he's like and I know he had still lied to her

and still said look I'm a prince so she might

have still bought that and that he had only dressed

up like a street rat but when Jafar was saying

look it's Aladdin and this is the guy that you

met in the street rat or in the you know out

on the street she looked surprised for at least

a couple frames. Yeah, she does. That part she

shouldn't have looked surprised about because

she knew that was him. She should have been more

surprised on, okay, he is really, you know, the

street rat, he's really not the prince, but I

just didn't like quite how that was animated

because it made her look like she had all of

a sudden forgot what she already knew, if that

makes sense. He dyed her hair blonde. So that

was the only thing. I scoured the movie for bad

things and that's the only thing I could come

up with. Yeah, you're right. And I didn't really

notice. I mean, because honestly when I was watching,

like I said before, I haven't watched this film

in years. And I honestly wasn't watching it as

a reviewer point of view. I was watching it like

to have fun and just to keep the plot and the

whole movie fresh in my mind for this recording.

and yeah you're right uh... she shouldn't look

surprised she could have been mad if they would

have made her look mad that would have worked

yeah because she could have been mad that he

was still lying but she shouldn't have looked

surprised right now i agree the only reason why

i could probably justify it to you of looking

surprised really the surprise look should have

been later which it was uh... when she's uh...

when she's coming on to jeff are because she

sees him before jeff are does when he when he

comes back from straight the ends of whatever

you know but seattle shine one moment left her

damn crown on and that's how jeff are so i'm

within the in the reflection of the crap uh...

uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh...

uh... uh... I have the moment that I like the

most today, and then I'll give you my favorite

Aladdin moment overall. There was a moment that

I never noticed before watching this, but I noticed

today, and it's oddly with the two bad guys.

There's a scene where it's Jafar and Iago, and

they're talking about, I don't remember exactly

what part of the plan they're talking about,

but it's lifting up off of them, kind of handing

to something else, and they're doing the maniacal

evil laugh, but they're alternating. And it's

like Iago laughs, and then Jafar laughs, and

then Iago laughs, and then Jafar laughs. I thought

it was a really clever thing to do instead of

just one single maniacal bad guy laugh, but they

played them off of each other. I thought it was

really cool. It's fairly early on in the movie.

Yeah, and the only thing I have to argue about

your plot synopsis is you said that he's running

through the city causing all kinds of crimes

and terror. He's not. He's an orphan. he's stealing

food, so he and Abu are... Abu is committing

crimes, because Abu is not just stealing food.

Abu is comm - oh, okay, but Aladdin himself is

not running amok in the city, terrorizing people

because he's a criminal, he is an orphan, and

he has no food yet. He's trying to survive. Yeah,

he's trying to survive. But, you know, granted,

you know, Abu - damn it! Why the hell do I have

the little cookie mart employee on my mind? Um,

Abu is a little kleptomaniac monkey. Get people

in trouble. Exactly. My favorite moment though

in the whole movie, I shouldn't say that because

I have so many of them, but I think one of my

favorite moments in the movie is when the genie

does his whole gets huge and says, you know,

I have, you know, cosmic power and all this stuff

and then living space. When he does it, not when

Aladdin does it at the end, but when he does

it in the cave or whatever it is, that moment

was just awesome. Yes, it was. Yes, it was. You

know, and again, I guess we can move into the

music here. Composer. Hold on one thing. I got

one thing I want to talk about before we get

into the music. Because I just remembered another

moment that I like. We could go on and on. But

my other favorite moment is when Genie is the

little bee and he's buzzing outside of Aladdin's

ear while he's on the carpet outside of Jasmine's

little, whatever you want to call it there, window.

And I can't remember all the lines the bee has

but he's trying to give her a word To describe

her and he says beautiful something something

and he says punctual and then a lad says them

and he's like oh my bad And it's just funny and

then he made a couple other bee jokes and stuff

like that. What else? Bees? Every scene with

him is just hilarious. Are we going? Are we going

music or trivia? Music. Oh, I mean, I don't have

trivia, so. Let me give a few trivia facts since

we're kind of talking about the whole show, and

then we'll get into maybe the best part of the

show, which is the music. The opening scene with

the street merchant was completely unscripted.

Robin Williams was brought into the soundstage,

was asked to stand behind a table that had several

objects on it, and it had a bedsheet covering

them all. The animators asked him to lift the

sheet and, without looking, take an object from

the table and describe it in character. So much

of that material when they recorded that first

was inappropriate, but basically he didn't even

know the stuff that he was holding when he was

describing that stuff, which is probably why

that scene works so well. I think that's one

of the best scenes of the movie too. You know,

going back to that before you go into another

trivia fact, you know, I was watching it. You

know, I think honestly outside of the main story

that is my favorite part of the whole film I

mean, I know it's such a minor part but that

intro after after the after the Arabian Nights

song is done when he's like this this Coffee

maker it also makes fries. It will not break.

It will not break. It's broke get a better and

quicker job of grabbing your attention than I

think most movies I've seen, not just anime movies,

movies in general. The first five minutes of

this movie puts you like in like nobody's business

and a lot of it is that scene. Oh, exactly. That

scene makes your whole day for the entire movie

after that. You know, take, if you take Ferris

Bueller out of the Ferris Bueller movie and put

him in that, not really... just the Ferris Bueller

character that he actually talks to the camera.

The shopkeeper is talking to the camera. Come

closer, come closer. Too close, too close. There

we go. Yeah, I mean, you just get it. You know,

I mean, if you're watching closely and listening

closely enough, you know that's Robin Williams.

Right. Another trivia thing here. This film became

the fourteenth film ever to gross more than $200

million. But that's not the interesting part.

First animated movie ever to gross more than

$200 million. Wow. So that was a big feat for

it. I mean, Lion King, I believe, did it right

after it, but it was the first one. To capture

the movement of Aladdin's low -cut, baggy pants,

the animator looked at videos of rap star MC

Hammer. You're telling me that Aladdin wears

parachute pants? I guess. They wanted to get

that effect. We talked about that Aladdin was

kind of based off of a certain actor, Tom Cruise,

etc. I guess Jasmine's appearance was somewhat

influenced by Jennifer Connelly, who should be

familiar to most people. The two men in the crowd

that Aladdin pushes through are characters of

the director, so that's when they made their

little thing. The original plan was actually

to do Fisco and Ebert. so they couldn't get permission

to do that. Think of how different the movie

would have been. In the first draft, Aladdin

actually had three friends, Bab -Kek, Omar, and

Christine, which was a magic ring and two genies.

So I'm glad they didn't do that. How did you

like this one here? But based on Mark Davis'

design for Maleficent and Sleeping Beauty, the

two villains share more than just looks. They

both carry a staff, which they use to execute

evil magic. They both have bird henchmen, one's

a raven, one's a parrot. They both turn themselves

into gigantic animals in their respective films,

a dragon and a snake. And Ultimate Disney dot

com featured both of them in the top villain

countdown at number one and number two. So, according

to Disney .com, Maleficent and I don't know which

one was one and which one was two, and Jafar

were the top two villain countdowns in Disney.

You know, it's like I said before, they are,

Maleficent and Jafar, are both the scariest,

ugliest, well, scariest, baddest, most diabolical

villains of the entire Disney animation theatrical

features. I think Jafar would be one of the best

villains ever. Yeah, he is. He is. And the difference

here, and one thing I like about Jafar, other

than, like, you take like the Hag and Snow White

or some of those other movies where people are

trying to, oh, I just didn't take a real, excuse

me, but when you take some of those villains,

They turn into creepy characters and get people

to believe what they say and I always had a bug

for me because it's like, why are you taking

advice from this creep? Or why are you doing

with this hag? At least with Jafar, he was controlling

the mind with his staff. So it wasn't like...

The real characters like Javin, who wasn't being

controlled by the staff, knew he was creepy and

didn't like him. It was only the ones that were

controlled by the staff that were getting fooled

by... You know what I mean? Like it wasn't like

just regular people being stupid, which I like

about a lot. Right, exactly. And I gotta tell

you, that staff was creepy. Yeah. I think it

was the most creepy. Do you have a Darth helmet

vibe off of the sultan? A little bit. Because

of playing with the toys You know now that I

think about it I I'm like wait this could so

between Dark Helmet and the Wizard of Oz Well,

no But I mean with the toys and stuff and and

him talking to the toys I always thought of Darth

or Dark Helmet because It's just what happened.

I've got five more trivia facts. While filming

the movie, Robin Williams frequently received

calls from Steven Spielberg, who at the time

was working on Sam Lakewood. He would put Robin

Williams on speakerphone so he could help jokes

to the cast and crew to cheer them up. And some

of the material that he used, then he... was

stuff that he ended up either using or had used

in the film. So that's kind of ironic. And as

of 2006, it is the only traditional animated

film to be nominated for an MTV Movie Award for

Best Picture. I don't know if there has been

one in the last couple years. For a while, it

was the only animated film to be nominated for

an MTV Movie Award for Best Picture. So I thought

that was kind of interesting. Robin Williams

also maybe cost him a couple of awards. Because

Robin Williams ad -libbed so many of his lines,

the script turned down for a best -adapted screen

-toy Oscar nomination. I got two more here. This

one I looked for, and this is something that

you would actually have to probably freeze frame

and look for. I could not find it, but when Aladdin

pushed Jafar back into the lamp, the spell on

the other characters was broken. The magic carpet

gets your turn normal. Datsun's dress turns back

from red to blue. Start watching when Datsun's

tiger cub jumps into the salt and brine. When

the cub hits his arm and starts to grow back

into a tiger just before he becomes normal, Azad's

face appears as Mickey Mouse for one frame. And

it says it. I could not find it. I didn't have

the ability to slow it down because I wasn't

watching it on DVD. So I'd have to check that

out. And this is the other interesting thing

which actually i don't think i would have minded

too much but originally someone else was offered

the role of Jafar but because of scheduling conflicts

with Star Trek the next generation Patrick Stewart

had to turn it down he has said in interviews

that this is his biggest regret of his career

so picture Patrick Stewart as Jafar that would

have If that would have happened, this may have

been my all -time favorite movie, like ever.

I'm not getting anything away from Jafar, he

did a good job. Oh yeah, and on that note, we're

gonna take a quick break and we will come back

with the music segment. Okay, going into the

music, composer Alan Menken and songwriter Howard

Ashman and Tim Rice were praised for creating

a soundtrack that is consistently good, rivaling

the best of Disney's other animated musicals

from the 90s. Menken and Ashman began work on

the film together, with Rice taking over as lyricist

after Ashman died of AIDS -related complications

in early 1991. Although 14 songs were written

for Aladdin, only 6 are featured in the movie.

Three by each lyricist. The DVD special edition

released in 2004 includes four songs and early

animations, tests, and the music video of one,

Proud of Your Boy, performed by Clay Aiken, which

also appears on the album Disney Mania 3. Okay,

I'm sorry. Clay Aiken should not be allowed anywhere

near Aladdin. That's one thing that I did not,

that's one special feature that I did not watch.

No way. Nuh -uh, ain't happening. Right. Aladdin,

the original motion picture soundtrack, is the

soundtrack of the Disney film Aladdin. It was

released alongside the film in 1992. The album

has been released twice since 1994 and 2001.

A remastered release was issued while in 2004

a special edition featuring two new songs was

released alongside the Aladdin special edition

set. The album won Academy Award and Golden Globe

Award for Best Original Score. It was also nominated

for the BAFTA Award. uh... for best film music

a loss to the score of the film shins list you

can keep steven's humble people uh... i i i do

want to say that and and and and and and and

and and and and and and and and and and animated

movie from Disney. I don't know, especially compared

to Little Mermaid and Lion King, I don't know

which one would be the best. I think it's my

favorite out of the musicals. The songs are my

favorite, but everything Tim Rice and Alan Lincoln

touched, which they did all of those. It's just

magnificent. At least one of those two guys was

in all of those films. I think the difference

for me is Lion King, and Little Mermaid, they

both had great songs, but I think Aladdin had

more, not just, not that they're, you know, if

Aladdin would have only had a couple songs, I'd

probably put it at the same level as those guys,

but there's five songs, at least in Aladdin,

that I love, whereas Lion King and Little Mermaid,

you're probably closer to, you know, two, three,

four songs that you really love, but I mean,

you have Arabian Nights, One Jump Ahead, Friend

Like Me, Prince Ali, and A Whole New World. One

Jump Ahead, I have that on my iPod. I don't have

many animated songs on my iPod. I have One Jump

Ahead and A Whole New World on my iPod. And One

Jump Ahead, I used to be able to recite line

by line when I was a kid. I loved that song.

I don't think you can say enough about the music

on this one. I mean, and that's not even talking

about the songs of the genie days. Yeah, exactly.

I mean, it's just one great song after another.

And the cut songs, like there would have been

even more songs. Other cut songs are written

and removed from the film. The 2004 soundtrack

includes two. both written by Howard Ashman and

sung by Alan Menken in the album, Proud of Your

Boy, which Aladdin was going to sing to his mother,

a character removed from the film, and High Adventure,

sung by the Genie, to encourage Aladdin cut,

because two songs for the Genie were already

considered enough. You know, it's just great.

And the score to it as well, just the instrumentals

that are in this. are just awesome. And I think

another thing I liked was I think and I didn't

really pay too much attention to it until I watched

it this time but you know usually you have you

have in animated movies that has music in them

you'll have a first version of the song and then

you'll have the reprise or you know a second

version later on or at least you'll have the

music part to it be playing even if the song

does not come again. Right. I like what they

did at one point with the whole new world. Instead

of having the music play again or having a whole

new reprise, they just had Jasmine after the

fact sitting at her mirror humming or singing

a line to it like she was remembering it. I think

that's the best I've ever seen a song written

back into the story of the actual show. Instead

of just having it play again or having it a whole

other number, just having a character remembering

the song and humming to herself. Oh, exactly.

I have no issue with any of the songs in the

entire film. I don't really like Arabian Nights,

the ending of it, because it's that high operatic

type of ending. But, you know, I mean, it's not

like it's a mark against the film. It's not really

a problem, it's more of like, oh my god, why

the hell did I watch this movie? A friend like

me, I had that uh... you know i said earlier

i had that song stuck in my head for forty five

minutes last night expected it's at the part

where it's you know getting closer closer you've

never had a friend ever you know it is like all

my god get their character he had it's the point

where i almost wanted to listen to like wiggles

songs and i hope you and i think that what people's

i cannot stand these fucking adults trying to

pander to fucking kids I can't let you get on

a Wiggles rampage. No, no, no, no. Not, but just

stating for the fact that I do hate the Wiggles.

There was another reprise that they wrote in

there though that was just as good, I'm now remembering,

just as good as the whole new world was on the

one jump ahead. When they go back to him and

he does the little reprise when he goes, you

know, rip rat, street rat. You know, I don't

buy that type thing. I thought that was another

really great way to just not just have the whole,

they didn't do a whole nother song. They didn't

do like a whole nother course. It was just a

little quick reminder of the song, finish it

off type thing. And I thought that was, that's

one of my favorite moments of the film too, actually.

I love that part of the song. Well, according

to this, according to this information here,

a slow version of, and this is talking about

the one jump ahead. The slow version of the song,

the reprise specifically, is heard in the underscore

frequently as a theme for Aladdin, which it fits

as his theme. Do we have anything else you want

to say about the music? No, except I don't know

if you can find animated movies that have a better

musical soundtrack than this one does. Little

Mermaid's close, and Lion King maybe is a third.

And the one I'm thinking of doesn't really count.

Oh. South Park? Huh? No, that's... Where the

hell did you get South Park from? I just remembered

that that's another one that has quite a few

good songs on it. Uh, Transformers. Oh god. Anyways...

Only for all followers. Moving into the legacy

segment here, the theatrical run a large promotion

campaign proceeded a Latin debut in theaters

with the film's trailer being attached to most

Disney VHS releases and numerous tie -ins and

licenses being released. after a limited release

on November 13, 1992. See, I knew. Oh, wait.

Aladdin debuted in 1 ,131 theaters on November

25, 1992, grossing 19 .2 million in its opening

weekend. Number two in the box office behind

Home Alone 2, Lost in New York. It took eight

weeks for the film to reach number one at US

box office, breaking the record for a week between

Christmas and New Year's Eve with 32 .2 million.

The film had held the top spot for five times

during its 22 -week run. Aladdin was the most

successful film of 1992 grossing $217 million

in the United States and over $504 million worldwide.

It was the biggest gross for an animated film

until The Lion King two years later. As of 2009,

it is the third highest -grossing traditionally

animated feature worldwide behind The Lion King

and The Simpsons mo - Oh my god, no! I did also

get good reviews on Rotten Tomato for the 91

% of critics gave the film a positive review

and among top critics it actually has a 100 %

positive review rating. Most critics praise winter

Robin Williams performances Jeannie with Janet

Maslin of the New York Times declaring that children

need know precisely what Mr. Williams is evoking

to understand how funny he is. That's big statement

coming from Chuck Jones. Oh, yeah I'm just see

what that fat bastard Ebert has to say about

it. I don't You don't want to breathe anything

what you were has to say he was a moron I don't

know if I've ever agreed with any of his comments

the dude is Listen, I will read his one line.

Let me the stupid line here Considered the music

inferior to its predecessors and claimed Aladdin

and Jasmine were pale and routine Aladdin was

different than any other hero character ever

in a Disney movie. The only one you can even

compare him to, the only one you can even closely

compare him to is Jungle Book. Alright, I have

a question. I have a question. Now, I'm not counting

Jungle Book because really the animals are the

heroes of that. Mowgli as a hero character, we

can get into that in the next episode when we

talk about Jungle Book next time on the show.

Is Aladdin the very first minority hero character

in Disney film? He's probably one of them. He's

gotta be one of them. No, was he the first ever?

He might be. I'd have to look it up. Because,

I mean, you know, when you think of Arabians,

you don't think of a, and I'm not trying to sound

ring sister or egotistical, you don't think master

race, you know? uh... i mean it i'm not saying

that there is a master races will let you know

that now but you know i mean you know you don't

think of a majority when you think of Arabians,

for the most part. Most of the time you're used

to, and just because of the society we grew up

in we're used to, especially viewing for a while

it was Russians, or Japanese, or Middle Eastern

descent as the bad guys, not saying that they

are, not saying they should be, but that's always

how we've been portrayed, how they've been portrayed

in entertainment and in pop culture. so it is

a big statement to have one of them being the

heroes and you know to try to dispell those myths

to kids that you know they're not you know what

what that we were portrayed them as you know

at marriott time but listen to what he said though

and i know this is a different definition of

the word here but do you just call jasmine pale

what's that one that we can't talk about anymore

yeah no we're not going there uh no god you're

freaking kidding me She's tan all over. There's

no tan lines on it. Anyways. Someone else's tail.

He probably gave that other movie a thumbs up.

God, please don't make me do research on that

again. I'm not really going to go into the animation

enthusiast crap. No, I don't think I'll be here.

Let me go down here to the home media. The film

was first released on VHS October 1st, 1993 as

part of the Walt Disney Classics line. In its

first week of availability, Aladdin sold over

10 .8 million copies. Okay, I know by 97 DVD

was kind of coming up and everything else, but

in 93, 10 .8 million VHS tapes were sold. Wow.

And went on to sell over 25 million int - oh

my god. uh... twenty -five million total a record

only broken by the later release of the lion

king it entered uh... the disney vault i don't

know why they're calling it the moratorium but

it's the disney vault it's got a link maybe i

can click on that and we can get information

on that anyway i'll do that later i'll have to

remember to do that later it entered the disney

vault on april thirtieth nineteen ninety -four

On October 5th, 2004, Aladdin was released on

DVD as part of Disney's Platinum Edition line.

The DVD release featured retouched and cleaned

up animation, prepared for Aladdin's planned

but untimely cancelled IMAX reissue in 2003,

and a second disc with bonus features accompanied

by a 19 million dollar marketing campaign. The

DVD sold about 3 million units, less than any

of the other Platinum Edition titles so far.

The film's soundtrack was available on its original

Dolby 5 .1 track. or in a new Disney enhanced

home theater mix. The DVD went into the vault

on January... Good thing, thank God for Amazon

and people that actually sell these things after

they've gone back into the freaking vault. It

went back into the vault on January 2008 along

with its sequels. Controversies. One of the verses

of the opening song, Arabian Nights, was altered

following a protest from the American Arab Anti

-Discrimination Committee. Holy crap. That's

a mouthful. Yeah, I don't really care about the

controversies, to be honest. The lyrics changed

in July 1993 from, where they cut off your ear

if they don't like your face, it's barbaric,

But, hey, it's home. In the original release,

too, where it's flat and immense and the heat

is intense, it's barbaric. But, hey, it's home.

You can't have them cutting off your ears. I

thought that was kind of funny. I don't get this,

though. They say that Entertainment Weekly ranked

Aladdin in a list of the most controversial films

in history due to that. Really? Damn. I thought,

what? Was that one line? And they also complained

about Aladdin and Jasmine. They criticized the

characters. Anglified features and Anglo -American

accents in contrast to the other characters in

the films which are dark -skinned, have arid

accents and grotesque facial features and appear

dullness or greedy. Whatever. Okay, well, I'm

just kind of reading down here. Protests were

also raised to another scene when Aladdin is

attacked by the tiger Raja on the palace balcony.

Aladdin quietly says, come on, good kitty, take

off and go. The word kitty is overlapped by another

unidentifiable sound, possibly Raja's snarl.

Some people reported hearing good teenagers take

off your clothes, which they then considered

a subliminal reference to promiscuity. Because

of the controversy, Disney replaced the phrase

with down kitty on the DVD release. It does,

I was listening for this minute, it actually

does sound like he says take off your clothes.

I couldn't get the good teenagers out of it,

but it does, instead of take off and go, it does

sound like he says take off your clothes. Just

saying. Well, you know, again, you know, this

was, this was when Mr. Jackass Katzenfurg was

fired, so. You know, this is a guy who put a

dick in the Little Mermaid art. Right. Maybe

there's something else in Lion King. Oh, no!

I know what's in the Lion... I know one that's

in the Lion King. When... And I know this is

getting off topic of Aladdin, but when Simba

is down and depressed and looking to the stars,

and he, you know, falls over in the grass, And

the dust comes up. As the dust swirls through

the sky, it spells sex. Yeah, I saw that before,

too. I've seen that one. I've never seen the

Little Mermaid one. It was on the older, like,

the original VHS packaging, I think. Oh. Aladdin

was followed by Disney's first direct -to -video

sequel, The Return of Jafar, in 1994. The film

saw a debut of new character, Abbess Maul, voiced

by Jason Alexander. and all of the original cast

except for Robin Williams, replaced by Dan Castellaneta,

and Douglas Seal, replaced by Val Benton. The

plot mainly focused on Jafar seeking revenge

on Aladdin, however, this time with Iago on Aladdin's

side, Abbas Maul becomes Jafar's new henchman.

Shortly after the return of Jafar, the Aladdin

TV series was aired on television, the episodes

focused on Aladdin's adventures after the events

of the second film. In 1996, the final sequel

to Aladdin, Aladdin and the King of Thieves,

was released on video. The story concludes as

Aladdin and Jasmine are about to be married and

Aladdin discovers that his father is still alive,

but is the king of all thieves in Agrabah. The

Aladdin characters later made a crossover with

Hercules, the animated series, and were featured

as guests in the television series House of Mouse

and related works to those series. Jafar was

the leader of the villains in Mickey's House

of Villains, which goes without saying. The film

also inspired Disney on Ice presentation and

two attractions in Disney theme parks, the Magic

Carpets of Aladdin and Dumbo the Flying Elephant

-like Ride at both Magic Kingdom Walt Disney

World Resort and Walt Disney Studios Park at

Disneyland Resort, Paris, and the show Disney's

Aladdin Musical Spectacular at Disney's California

Adventure Park. Going into the video games, along

with the film release, three different video

games based in the land were released. One by

Virgin Interactive for the Sega Mega Drive, Game

Boy later ported to Game Boy Color, Nintendo

Entertainment System and PC, another by Sims

for the Sega Game Gear and Sega Master System,

and another by Capcom for the Super Nintendo

and Sega Genesis, ported to the Game Boy Advance

in 2003. All right now, I don't remember any

of these games other than the one that was for

the Super Nintendo and the Sega Genesis Yeah,

I don't remember any of them Well, I remember

one that was on the Sega Genesis because I a

friend of mine had it and I would play it all

the time Basically take the film and put it to

a video game I think I do remember playing something

where you're riding on a magic carpet and it

was hard to stay on Yep, that would be the Genesis

game or the Super Nintendo game because they're

pretty much, you know, it's like nowadays when

you release a video game, unless you're going

to do, you know, console -specific characters,

you know, it's pretty much the same game. Yeah.

The television series is another game by Argonaut

Games entitled Aladdin Nazra's Revenge and released

in 2000 for the PlayStation and PC. Also in 2004,

Vivendi Universal released Disney's Aladdin Chess

Adventures, a chess computer game with an Aladdin

license. The Kingdom Hearts series of games features

a playable Aladdin world known as Agrabah in

Kingdom Hearts, and in Kingdom Hearts Chain of

Memories, the plot line is loosely related to

the storyline of the original film. In Kingdom

Hearts 2, it is a mixture of Aladdin and The

Return of Jafar. Jeannie is also a recurring

summoned character in the series. Okay, so the

sequels, the original film and the sequels are,

as of January 08, are in the vault. However,

I have found the sequels on Amazon as a, they

actually released it as a, they first released

them as two individual special editions, then

they released it as a Latin two and three double

pack. So I need to get those films. I do, I mean

I've got Aladdin, I've got the two disc platinum

edition in my hand, but unfortunately I don't

have the other two films right now. So yeah,

this is one of those. Again, this is something

that we can talk about when we do our wrap up.

No, seriously, I mean, we're going to have tons

of stuff to talk about when we do our animation

spotlight wrap -up, because some of the sequels

I like, some of them I don't. I don't have a

full -on hate for them. It just depends. I would

highly recommend, even though it's back in the

vault, if you can find this Ptootis Platinum

Edition. A decent price get it because it is

so awesome. This is the only DVD and again, you

know, like I said in the in the Christmas episode

with the Grinch DVD This DVD, you know how when

you buy PC games the before you take the game

out you can open the cover Yeah, this is like

that and it shows you all of the special features.

It also lists them on the back But it opens like

a video like a like a PC video game would And

I think that is super, super cool that they spent

that extra detailing to the Aladdin DVD. I think

that we're just going to save, because it is

technically one franchise, we're just going to

save our final thoughts for the very end, waiting

for the outro. So we're going to take a break,

and you're probably going to hear something about

the return of Jafar, and we will be right back.

Get ready. He's back! Everyone's back in the

hottest new movie on video. All right, carpet.

Let's go! Disney's The Return of Jafar. Jafar

has escaped from the lamp. I am free! And he'll

destroy the kingdom unless a Latin can stop him.

It's your favorite characters, Aladdin, Jasmine,

Iago and the genie. Did you miss me? It's the

newest adventure with the Latin. Disney's The

Return of Jafar, only on Video Ready G. This

summer, Disney invites you to a world premiere.

Oh, yeah! Of one of the biggest movies of the

year. Doesn't get any bigger than that! Aladdin

and the King of Thieves. Aladdin and Jasmine's

dreams are finally coming true. This is a happy

day. But a band of notorious thieves... Open

sesame! And a long -kept secret. My father is

alive? Lead Aladdin into his greatest adventure

ever. Show me the way. Follow the train of the

Forty -Keys. Your father is trapped within their

world. That would be a problem. Even after scam,

out on the land. Taking whatever we please. Got

lots of grub to scam. Pull up an easy chair.

Welcome to the Forty -Keys. Aladdin and the King

of Thieves features five brand new songs and

reunites all your favorite characters from Aladdin.

I'm back! Including the Genie, brought to life

again by the one and only Robin Williams. It's

a kinder, gentler Genie. Look at him! This summer,

live the adventure. You don't stand a chance

against the King of Thieves. And take part in

the wedding of the century. Wow. They're finally

getting married! They're finally getting married!

They're finally getting married! They're finally

getting married at the party in Agrabah! Aladdin

and the King of Thieves! To the party in Agrabah!

The party starts August 13th. Okay, we are going

to be talking about the return of Jafar, so let's

go into the history lesson. Professor Boss, KDogg

would like to issue a disclaimer that the rest

of this animated show is being done against his

will. Tooncast is not responsible for the fact

that Kevin Thompson does not want to discuss

Return of Jafar and Aladdin and the King of Thieves.

It's nothing against them, I've been anti any

Disney sequel. Alright, The Return of Jafar,

also known as Aladdin, the Return of Jafar, is

a 1994 animated direct -to -video sequel, obviously

to Aladdin from 1992. The film was released in

May of 94, and served as the origin of the Aladdin

animated series, which is actually decent. The

film centers on Jafar, the villain from the original

film, trying to gain his revenge against Aladdin

and his companions, Princess Jasmine, Genie,

Aguru, Carpet, Diago, who has now turned against

Jafar, and the Sultan, and become the ruler of

Agra. It was the first Disney direct -to -video

animated feature release, and it's currently

available. Actually, it's not currently available.

It's in the vault. And let's see, the trailer

of the film was actually on the 1994 release

of Fox and the Hound. This was the first and

only Aladdin full -length production without

the original voice of Genie, Rodney Williams,

and it's also the only one without Douglas Sito,

who was the Sultan, they were replaced. Other

than that, there's not much to say about the

history of The Return of the Fire, so let's see

what you have to say about it. Alright, going

into general memories, when I saw Aladdin, when

I first saw Aladdin in the first film, I was

so engrossed in the characters. Back then when

I saw it, I wanted to see more. So in 1994, when

I found out that Return of Jafar was out now,

you gotta cut me some slack here. I was 14 years

old and I was all hopped up on Disney. Lion King

had just came out, and I wanted more of the Aladdin

characters. So when Return of Jafar came out,

I was absolutely ecstatic. Until I saw the fucking

thing. Even when I was a kid, even when I was

a 14 year old kid, and holy crap, I'll be turning

30 in February, you know, even when I was 14,

after I finished watching it, I was like, wow.

my aunt wasted a five dollar rental on this damn

thing or however much video rentals cost back

then I don't know you know I'm thinking holy

crap this even then I I didn't like it and I

don't really know because I can't really say

that much more about it because um you know as

I said earlier in the episode you know I don't

have the sequels on DVD. I'm going to be getting

them at some point, probably in February of 2010.

I have no problem with... I agree that I was

very much into the character and I wouldn't have

minded to see more, but I think the best way

for them to do that is what they did with an

animated... series on TV or something like that

or to you know have your video games about. I

think one the reason I don't like Disney sequels

is to me part of the joy or the magic of a Disney

film is where you saw seeing it for the first

time, being totally involved in whatever that

experience, there's something, Disney has a weird

way of having it magical that first time, that

first time you watch it. And it's not only, I

mean you can still get joy out of re -watching

it and stuff like that, but for me, having sequels

has none of that magic. Like sequels do not...

give you anything new you haven't you know it's

just like I won't watch the Cinderella sequel

I think there's one I won't watch is there a

Lady and Tramp 2 I mean there's these two of

that I'm not saying they're not good I'm not

saying they're bad I'm not saying anything about

them because I just refuse to watch them because

for me it wouldn't have that same magic that

the original movie well tough titties buddy you're

gonna have to watch them when we review them

we're not watching sequels yes you are Yes, you

are, um, you know going off just a little bit

off topic here I I Never watched the Cinderella

sequel the second one. I never watched Cinderella

to dreams come true. However, I did watch Cinderella

3 a twist in time. I Thought that was you know,

again, we'll get to it once we get to that But

I don't know, you know, like I said a while ago.

It just depends on the sequel for me You know,

I think Lion King 2 was a good sequel. I didn't

like what What? I think Lion King 2 is a good

sequel. I think Lion King one and a half was

a joke. Oh Well, you know, but anyway, you know

as far as this one goes You know again, I just

I I'm pretty much speechless because I don't

know what to say about it. It just basically

sucked It just did I mean honestly, we're probably

not even gonna go over the characters or the

behind the scenes because the simple fact that

outside of Val Betten Jay Alexander being added

Val Betten replaced the other dude as the Sultan

and then uh... dan caslana replaced the genie

uh... loses you which i have no problem with

dan caslana at all i have no prior as just ike

don't remember i don't remember this movie that

well i remember how much i was disappointed in

it at the end of it such a terrible right for

it yeah i only i mean i remember the height for

two because everybody was excited everybody This

is the first time Disney had ever done something

like that. Exactly, yeah. Should have been the

last. Well, we'll get into that later. Knock

it off. So I think actually, just to save everybody

some time and the fact that I didn't actually

write any production notes or get any listing

for that, we're just going to go straight into

the plot, the actual show. So yeah, do your five

second dealie. There's no way I could do a five

-second dealie for this. I couldn't even do it.

You couldn't give me ten minutes to do the plot.

I'd have to read the entire plot. All right.

Well, I will try. Basically, a band of robbers

led by Jason Alexander's character releases Jafar.

Somehow... something some argument happens between

jaffar and any other way i'll go goes good the

other than betrays them and goes bad again and

then goes good again at the end of the film the

whole point of the film is jafar getting revenge

on a land and the other characters uh... you

know all and finally earns the sultan's acceptance

of the future grand vizier uh... laden thanks

iago and he's ambushed by the small company by

jafar disguised as a group of cloaked horseman

okay uh... you know they try to kill you know

it's just like the the fifth time uh... jafar

is tried to kill laden between the two films

uh... you know it just uh... god Oh God, it's

just it's just horrible. I didn't even make any

musical notes I didn't do anything for this film

because honestly it sucks Going down to the legacy

segment the film received a 22 % rating from

critics on rotten tomato Excuse me rotten tomatoes.

It also received 52 % from the RT community,

whatever the hell that is. Most of the negative

feelings that contributed to this rating, notable

is the first direct to radio Disney sequel, The

Return of Jafar, follows Aladdin as he attempts

to once again foil Jafar's villainous plot to

take over Agrabah despite the fact that he was

freed from his lamp at the end of the first film.

Jeannie now voiced by Dan Castellan is back and

wackier than ever. It is It's clear right from

the onset that Disney put very little effort

into the production of Return of Jafar, particularly

in the realm of animation. And wow, you know

what I just thought of? We have Megavolt as the

genie in this film. It would have been ten times

funnier if Castle Santa had poured over his Megavolt

voice. Well god, I can't even read this next

line How the hell can that fat bastard Ebert

pander the first film? Despite the mostly negative

reception of the film received a two thumbs up

from Siskel and Ebert now I won't say anything

about Siskel because he is long gone I mean he

is dead and I you know I I want to keep with

my belief that I don't speak ill of the dead

for the most part But Ebert is still very much

alive, and what a dumb bastard. There was a comic

adaptation. There was a video game. It's actually

very funny, the plot of this film, as we said

before, used in Agrabah one of the worlds in

Kingdom Hearts 2. only with Abbas Maul being

replaced by the peddler from the first film.

It is worth noting that this one of two Disney

sequels can have its plot adapted into a level

in the Kingdom Hearts series, the other being

a little mermaid to return to the sea. Since

the original Kingdom Hearts, Ariel is manipulated

by Ursula and is dealing with Triton for her.

The same trick Morgana, Ursula's sister, is played

on Melody, Ariel's daughter, in the movie too.

Furthermore, there is a mild allusion to the

Agrabah boss battle in Kingdom Hearts. Sora must

fight Jafar in genie form surrounded by a lava

pit with raising and lowering levels. As we said,

honestly, because I did try to find these before

we did the record for these sequels, you can

find them on Amazon even though Disney says that

they're back in the vault. Of course, other people

are going to have them on Amazon still. And I

want to get the the the two -pack just to have

them just to complete the little trilogy there

But it's not on general release DVD as of right

now Honestly, they'll probably bring them all

back out two years from now You know I I'm sorry

I truly feel royally screwed by Disney with the

whole Snow White thing because I spent Shut up.

You know, I spent probably four days trying to

find the 2001 DVD of Snow White and then the

very next year they re -release it, they bring

it out. You fucking bastards. If you're wanting

to buy these movies, you should just pin the

20th or 25th or 40th or 50th anniversary date

and say the DVD will be brought out that year.

Yeah, that's true. So we are going to move on

to Aladdin and the King of Thieves. Take it away

with the history lesson, sir. Against my will,

Aladdin and the King of Thieves is a 1996 direct

-to -video animated film made by Disney released

August 1996. It is the second unfortunate sequel

to 1992's Aladdin, following the unfortunate

first sequel, Return of Jafar. It marks the end

of the 1992 film and the Aladdin animated series.

This film grossed $186 million. making it the

fourth highest grossing director, video, or animated

feature film of all time. In 2005, the film was

re -released as a special edition DVD. But, of

course, it went back into the Disney vault in

January 2008. The film was inspired by the tale

of Alibaba and the Four Deceives from the 1001

Radiant Night. The place in Alibaba is Aladdin,

which is kind of like what Jafar called it in

the original Abuji. And for the first time since

the original Aladdin, the film has a completely

new soundtrack. instead of the rearranged music

from the original film for the Return of Jafar

and the TV series. That's all I have to say.

This one I actually liked because, alright, at

the end of Aladdin, they pretty much leave it

up in the air. You know, they say they're going

to get married, they're not sure, you know, and

then by the end of Return of Jafar, they're like,

oh, we just want to date, we don't want to get

married, and then of course the TV series starts.

And then this one, Actually, it's funny. I didn't

even know about this until I saw it on I think

Cartoon Network or Disney I saw it on like Toon

Disney or something at the time. It was still

Toon Disney not Disney XD But you know I actually

saw this on TV, and I it was like whoa Because

I knew of the Aladdin cartoon. I knew of the

cartoon series, but I just wasn't sure of this

and I actually like this one. The reason why

I like it is because of the simple fact that

it ties the story up. Like I said, that could

be good, that could be bad. I'm not saying that

it's bad. I'm not saying that it's bad. Although

I did see a couple of new names in the cast that

everybody should be familiar with. Yeah, I mean,

you know, we're not really going to go too much

into You know John Rhys Davies plays Cassine

Aladdin's long -lost father You know Jerry Orbach

as Saluk The main antagonist of the film now,

you know Wow, you know, I didn't even know that

holy crap CCH Pounder was the or Wow, I definitely

need to get that DVD two -pack now. Holy crap

Claudette whims was Wow, damn, I love the shield.

Anyway, the shield, law and order, everything.

There are a couple of new additions, but it's

pretty much the main cast. Robin Williams returns,

thank God, as the Genie. And again, nothing against...

Dan Castellaneta, but yeah Robin Williams returns

Just an overall great, you know cast You know

and again really don't have any behind -the -scenes

on this one And one of the reasons why I like

this story so much and I'm going to go right

into the plot here You know we mentioned earlier

that one of the earliest plots of Aladdin was

with his mother and they for went that they went

back and made another plot in this one with his

dad and I can't remember for certain if his father

ever mentions his mother or something or other.

I think she is mentioned to where she's dead

or something or other but I don't know, I like

how this gives them a happy ending. They're starting

their wedding or they're getting ready to get

married and and all this other stuff happens

and he finds out his father is the the king of

the forty thieves and you know he was once a

a thief him you know Aladdin was once a thief

himself for you know in order to survive I honestly

don't know where to go from here because let's

see if I can just read Aladdin and Jasmine finally

get married with Kasim attending in the shadows

as he is still wanted for his crimes. Also among

the guests are several cameos from characters

from the TV series Iago decides to join Kasim

as a traveling companion and they both go off

once again to see the world. A reprise of Arabian

Nights is then sung. The peddler makes an appearance

at the end of this film to mark the end of The

Legend of Aladdin originally planned for the

end of the first film. As Aladdin and Jasmine

fly past him and wave goodbye to Kasim and Iago.

Again, it's a nice, it's putting a nice bow tie

on the Aladdin series. It's just tying it off,

it's like wrapping up a three -month -old fruitcake.

You know, I don't know how else to describe it,

but I was more into this film than I was into

Return of Jafar. This is clearly there that there

is more of a story here It's not just about revenge

has nothing to really do with Jafar. I don't

think yeah, it has nothing to do with Jafar at

all It has to do with it brings in more mythical

legends than anything else You know my you know

King Midas in in his legendary golden touch and

all that stuff I Didn't totally hate this one

And of course, you know, you're just gonna be

repetitive and say oh I hate all Disney sequel

Yeah, well You know the music there is a sound,

you know new soundtrack Done by really honestly,

they're not I Honestly don't remember any of

the songs out of this film Obviously, like I

said, unfortunately I don't have it on DVD. I'm

going to be getting it, but I don't have it as

of right this moment. But, you know, I'm sure

they're pretty forgettable. And it's nowhere

near the acclaim and mastery of the first film

soundtrack. Going into the legacy segment here.

For the reception -like The Return of Jafar,

the film received mostly mixed response, only

slightly higher this time, while top critics

gave it a 22 % Rotten rating. The user community

gave the movie a mainly positive 59 % fresh rating

on Rotten Tomatoes. Two comic adaptations of

the movie were on sale September 1996. Let's

see, William's many impersonations included a

live -action character he portrayed, the title

character of the 1993 comedy film, Mrs. Doubtfire.

At the very end of the credits, the genie appears

in the front of the black screen and says, Game

over, man, game over. This is a spoof of identical

lines by the character of Private William Hudson

in the movie Aliens. Is this all trivia? I don't

know. It probably is. Alibaba and the Forty Thieves

are mentioned at the beginning of the song Friend

Like Me from the first Aladdin movie. Oh wow,

I never noticed that. During the song Father

and Son, Genie references the Jetsons, oh my

god. Various references include Pocahontas, Pumbaa

from The Lion King, Rocky Balboa, Ed 209 from

Provo Cop, and Mickey Mouse from Steamboat Willie,

all of which Genie turned into are made with

magic. Genie transforms into a parody of Forrest

Gump during the wedding fight scene and says

Mama always said magic is as magic does oh my

god I'm gonna really have to go I can I cannot

wait till I get this now I Don't know just for

the sheer fact that it dates itself so horribly

You know the story in the film is good You know

what like I said and I hate to keep repeating

myself, but I like how it ties off the Aladdin

series but Wow, that's a lot of cheesy goodness.

So yeah, I think we're done with the Aladdin

franchise. We're going to go out to a quick break.

You're probably going to hear some ads, and we

will be back with the final thoughts and the

closing. We are back, and it is time for final

thoughts. I guess I'll let you go first because,

yeah. I'm really excited and looking forward

to going through all these Disney things that

we're going to go through. I know we're not going

to hit every Disney release that's been out or

whatever. We're not going to hit them all, especially

the 31st one. I'm really interested in watching

a bunch of these again so that I can, at the

end, figure out, you know, which ones are my

favorite, you know, which characters, which bad

guys, which good guys, which movies, which music,

soundtrack, etc. But, you know, before doing

all that, before going through all these, my

final thoughts on Aladdin would be that it's

probably my odds on favorites to come out on

top at the end of everything. You know, there's

chances where other ones could be passing it,

Jungle Book, Lion King, Little Mermaid, all that

could be passing it, but Aladdin... At this moment

in time I would probably rank as my number one

Disney movie of all time. Yeah, I kind of agree.

It wouldn't have been bad if they had actually

forwent Return of Jafar and just had the third

film be the second film. I mean I know Return

of Jafar launched help launch the cartoon series

and we really didn't talk about the cartoon series

too much and again that's not the point excuse

me the the point of the disney animation spotlight

because it is focusing on the actual animated

feature films uh... you know we can probably

incorporate uh... was there a lion king in the

mid -series no yeah uh... for tomorrow all the

other no no i'm in an actual lion king No, no,

yeah, I mean there's to moon and poomba, but

yeah who cares about them anyway I Really really

enjoyed watching this I would probably watch

it again Maybe six seven months down the line

And again like I've been saying throughout this

entire episode that you know last night was the

first night that I had watched this film in God

four or five years Maybe more. I don't even remember

when I actually originally bought this Aladdin

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