ToonCast
Sleeping Beauty

About this Episode
Hello and welcome to the 28th episode of Tooncast
brought to you by the Geekcast Radio Network.
I'm your host TF2 and Mike and today I am joined
once again by Kevin, Professor Boss K Dog Thompson.
Hello. How's it going? It's going, how are you?
I am good and I'm ready for some Disney action.
Yes. We're going to be starting the Disney Animation
Spotlight with Sleeping Beauty. The Disney Animation
Spotlight, the first part of it for Tooncast
will run, I believe it's eight episodes, nine,
seven, eight episodes. However, it is actually
going to be broken up. This episode and the next
episode, 29. Will be two movies episode 30 will
be our holiday show We're only doing one holiday
show since this podcast will only last until
2011 Each year in 2010 we're gonna just basically
refer back to that that holiday episode that
was from this year and I'm gonna try to keep
that recording very very just overall generally
Christmas not like oh what are you doing this
year or you know whatever I don't know I think
we're actually gonna have four people on that
episode correcting traffic again good lord so
what have you been up to? Let's see, the big
thing this week was that I put up Christmas lights
outside. Outside around the roof and the garage
and all this nonsense. So I spent a lot of time
yesterday doing that. But it's done, I don't
have to worry about it anymore. All I have to
do is plug it in now. Now you're not one of those
types of people that leaves their damn lights
up all year long, are you? Oh no, no. It goes
up after Thanksgiving and it comes down right
after the New Year. If I had my way my tree would
go up December 23rd come down December 26th It's
not that it's just I Just never got the whole
point and especially now I'm a single guy You
know I don't have a lot of family here in Kentucky.
You know outside of my mom you know and it's
like I'm not putting the tree up because I've
got two cats and I don't think they would let
it stand upright. Well, Steve, our other friend,
Steve Megatron from the co -founder with me of
Geekcast Radio Network, they have a fake tree
and his male cat likes to jump up in the fake
tree and bend the branches. Yeah, all I've ever
had is a fake tree but I think mine would. bring
it down and break all the ornaments. I don't
want to have to deal with it. So I have no decorations
inside, but I got lights outside. Why is it every
time people bring up Christmas trees and cats,
I always think of... from Christmas vacation
when the cat electrocuted. Exactly. Cats and
Christmas trees don't mix. Exactly. Yeah, there's
not that much going on here We're just actually
in year -end high gear as far as recording and
stuff like that So yeah, we've got the as I said
before M wire has the holiday shows coming up
And of course we've got our a little animation
spotlight here with disney and then the holiday
show and then more disney and then whatever else
is down the line so we will be right back with
sleeping beauty Sleeping Beauty. Sparkling with
colorful spectacle. Brimming with gay music and
delightful new songs. Filled with fascinating
new Disney characters. You'll meet lovely Princess
Pryor Rose. to sing to. Hot boy! You'll meet
handsome Prince Philip and Samson, his noble
steed. You'll meet the most delightful fairies
who ever wafted a magic wand. Flora? Follow me.
Fauna, and Merryweather. You'll share the fun
with King Stefan and King Hubert, and you'll
see Maleficent work her wondrous witchcraft.
Stand back, you fools! The fine art of animation
becomes magnificent entertainment as Walt Disney
brings one of the world's favorite stories to
the screen. It's filled with magical fun. It's
spectacular in its beauty. And there's adventure
to excite every emotion. We're shot! Kill him!
No! It cannot be! The management of this theater
is proud to recommend this magnificent motion
picture to every member of every family everywhere.
We are back, and it is time for the history lesson.
Take it away, Professor. All right. For today's
history lesson, we're traveling back in time
to 1959. 1959 was the year where Sleeping Beauty
was produced by Walt Disney, obviously based
on fairy tale. Here goes my French here. I have
to do the French. LaBelle Boyd Norman. by Charles
Pearl. It was released to theaters on January
29, 1959 by Buena Vista Distribution. And it
is number 16 for animated features by Walt Disney
in the animated classic series. It was also the
last fairy tale produced by Walt Disney after
his death. The studio went back to fairy tales
in 1989, kind of the rebirth of Disney in my
opinion when they started with The Little Mermaid.
So, big break between Sleeping Beauty and Little
Mermaid films as far as fairy tale Disney movies.
The film was based on the fairy tale, like I
said, and the musical score and song feature
the work of the Berlin Symphony Orchestra, our
arrangement for adaptations of numbers from 1890
Sleeping Beauty by Tchaikovsky. Sleeping Beauty
was the first animated feature. to be a photograph
in the technical wide -screen process and the
film was presented in super technical family
and six -channel there's on in first -run engagement
uh... only one other enemy film which is the
black hole in the shot in texas all right that
does it for the history lesson what you want
to show you actually forgot something there i
was going to bring that up later when you talk
about character uh... moving on to the general
memories and you know we are starting a a spotlight
on on disney animation but honestly i i never
knew these films were as old as they are incident
same thing with like the jetsons when stones
I always thought because the Flintstones was
in syndication in the 80s that it was actually
you know new episodes in the 80s when in fact
it wasn't. Jetsons was they did produce new episodes
for that in the 80s but you know these are the
same thing you know you know when I was younger
I Disney mania was everywhere back in the 80s.
I think Disney did a really good job of keeping
enough stuff consistent, and when I mean stuff
I mean like graphics, logos, like intro, you
know, that type of stuff where if you're a kid
and you're watching this stuff, especially since
when you're a kid your parents are probably showing
you every Disney movie in the world to try to
keep you occupied or whatever, but you just assume
that they're all from the exact same time period.
Now, did they look old? Maybe they did, but as
a kid, for some reason you didn't like most kids
if they see something old like if they see something
in black and white they're gonna completely shut
off to it but for some reason the Disney stuff
does not have that effect on anybody that I know.
There's only one thing that I disagree with that
and there's only one black and white instance
that I would disagree with you on that and that
is of course the three stooges. Yeah, but I mean
there's so much stuff that if it's in black and
white or whatever kids will just be like no I
can't watch it blah blah. It's old. It's from
forever ago But I never can remember one time
watching a Disney movie and being like this is
too old Neither yeah, I can't even I gotta I
gotta say that Even though this one's called
sleeping beauty which completely makes it sound
like a I don't know how you want to say it, but
like a girl Disney movie. You know, you have
your titles that just shout that this is more
for a girl audience. Snow White, Cinderella,
Sleeping Beauty, that type of stuff. But out
of all those, this is the most maybe fun for
a guy out of all those movies, I think. Because
you have so many guy elements in here that would
just like, you know, you have the dragon, you
have the you know all the obstacles and you know
the conflict going on. I think the title of this
one's very misleading. Yeah I would tend to agree
you know you do have the Dungeons and Dragons.
You know of course you know the whole hero complex
with the prince having to save her and everything
else you have I actually almost equate this to
not really count as part of it but a type of
Arthurian legend where it's it's not it has nothing
to do with King Arthur or the Knights and Round
Table or Camelot but it's a medieval movie is
what it is and actually today when I was well
by the time this airs one week from when we're
actually recording yeah I don't know I think
it's December ninth is when this is supposed
to air uh... i don't remember hell yeah uh...
anyway uh... i actually watched this today with
the commentary with uh... uh... crap lettered
malton and two other guys uh... forget what their
names are i've got the dvd right here let me
see uh... uh... uh... it doesn't say uh... i
know it's one in malton the move though that
the entertainment site movie guy and into other
people that were associated with disney uh...
and it's very interesting uh... what they say
that I believe, well Snow White was the first
ever Disney animated feature and then Cinderella
was after. Cinderella was basically before Sleeping
Beauty and they wanted with this film what they
said in the commentary was that Walt Disney wanted
completely different. Oh yeah, it's like the
polar opposite of Cinderella. Yeah. I mean, Cinderella
is what you think it is. It's got that name,
and you think, this is going to be a movie that's
all about the things that girls like to watch.
It's going to be about what is traditional girl
-type stuff like clothes and that type of work
and all that, the big love story and all this
type of stuff. And that's exactly what Cinderella
is. But then you hear Sleeping Beauty, and I
think a lot of people just think, oh, it's the
same type of thing. complete opposite. So I think
that's one reason why I tend to like Sleeping
Beauty even more maybe than I like Cinderella
and I don't know if I'd say I like it more than
Snow White but I don't know. There's a lot of
parts that I think talk to a guy more in Sleeping
Beauty than they do in either of those other
two. Well like I said, you know, alright. You
know and we're gonna get to Cinderella eventually
on Tooncast because we're gonna have two volumes
of the Disney Animation Spotlight I just have
to actually get the DVD. It's one of the ones
I don't have But you know comparing the two films
between Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty Cinderella
you have a prince who is hunting for his missing
one -night stand even though okay i know that
sounds bad but come on this is disney they had
a dick for a little mermaid tower on on a on
a vhs case or what you know i mean i know it
sounds bad but in sleeping with the poor but
that is a famous for their for their uh... bernie
influx uh... you know so there uh... anyway fucking
jeff jeffrey catzenberg anyway uh... uh... uh...
uh... all right simply track that was looking
for his one night stand or his one night party
guest or whatever the hell you wanna call her
in sleeping beauty you have someone who falls
in love with somebody at basically at first sight
who is a prince You could almost call him a knight
as well, I mean, hell, he rides a horse called
fucking Samson for Christ's sake. You know? So
he's actually going to try to save this person,
so it's more of a hero knightly film, whereas
Cinderella, he's just stalking her. Right. We'll
get to that eventually, way down the line as
far as Cinderella goes, but yeah. you know just
even with just watching with the commentary in
certain parts they would I hate to say this but
they would shut up and let the audio play through
even then it's I could still understand what
was going on and I actually watched it about
a week ago well again by the time this airs it
would be two weeks ago I would agree with that
except I would put a qualifier on it because
as much as I'm a fan of The original stuff and
you know all that type of stuff. I think it's
the best of its era I would say it's one of the
number one It was the number one fairy tale movie
out of this era, but I'm biased. I don't think
any of the originals can compare to the 90s Disney
movies That's just me. Well all right well It's
timeless pretty much Yeah, I mean I I'm just
biased I guess I think I think Aladdin Lion King
and Little Mermaid are probably three best Disney
movies ever and that's fine I mean, you know,
I don't disagree with you I think they are very
good Disney films and you know once we get to
those we can elaborate on that but All I think
out of the original this is the best. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah You know and you really can't You really
can't compare Outside of Sydney, you really can't
compare Sleeping Beauty to anything other than
Snow White and Cinderella. Right. Obviously,
because... You can't compare it to the Jungle
Book and that stuff. You can't compare it to
the 90s stuff. It's just... Disney has its different
eras, and you gotta stay within that era if you're
gonna talk Disney films. So I guess moving into
the characters and the cast, you had Princess
Aurora. Also known as Briar Rose, voiced by Mary
Costa. Mary Costa actually did both the, according
to the commentary track, she did both the talking
voice and singing voice. Apparently she was going
to school or learning to be, or going to be an
opera singer. And she eventually did go through
with that, is what Leonard Malton said on the
commentary. You know what I just realized? But,
you know, doing the Sydney Spotlight, which we'll
be doing, obviously, like you said, for these
next two episodes, you know, five or six episodes
after the Christmas special, it's going to be
one of the first times during Tunecast where
we're not going to be familiar with all the voice
cast. I know it. Because, obviously, most of
them are coming from 1950s and stuff like that,
where it's like the first time where it's not,
you know, there's no Chuck McNeal, there's no...
You know, Frank Walker, so an interesting voice
cast. I'm going to be unfamiliar with most of
the breathing ones. Yeah, but I mean, even though,
you know, even that being said, honestly, it
doesn't really... I don't know how to say this
gently. I'm not trying to, you know, stick a
hole in... I'm not trying to poke a stick into
a hole here, but mostly I didn't really care
about who voiced who. in the Disney films. Of
course the later films like Oliver and Company,
I mean come on, you got Huey Lewis, you got Billy
Joel, Bette Midler, a lot of those late 80s,
early 90s musical stars. I agree with you. I
don't think I ever thought about who's behind
the character or who's doing the voicing in a
Disney film. until... I don't think I even thought
about it until Aladdin. I think that was the
first time where I was like actually conscious
of, you know, I know the people that are doing
these voices are, you know, I recognize the voices.
Which is testing it, I think, to actual voice
actors that did do any films because it didn't
matter who it was, they just did their job and
they did a good job. Yeah, exactly. You know,
and as I said a second ago, for me it was Oliver
& Company because you have all of these big name
80s music stars, you know, Huey Lewis, Billy
Joel, Bette Midler, a bunch of people. I don't
remember it off the top of my head at this point.
Of course, we'll get to that once we get to it.
But that was for me when I started recognizing
voice actors in in Disney films and the earlier
for the the earlier films like this one in Snow
White and Cinderella I just that you know okay
that's the female voice for Cinderella cool you
know yeah although I would like to mention that
the voice director for this was Andrea Romano
no I'm just kidding shut up yeah actually it's
funny One of our upcoming episodes upcoming in
the thirties for Tooncast, the GoBots episode,
she was the voice director on that. Love it.
I'm actually looking forward to that episode.
I will say that the one voice actor that I do
recognize on this list right off the bat, I'm
not saying that these other voice actors aren't
famous and aren't well known for what they did.
I'm just saying that I'm not familiar with them,
but the one I am familiar with is the Owl. The
Allison McKinnon. uh... had done also a lot of
stuff i think some of the other people might
have been might have been a whole lot to work
i wish i could think of our role that i am familiar
with the doubt mckinnon i'm not a hundred percent
sure which one there are but i've seen his name
a lot of different places if you listen now did
you watch the film before we recorded this uh...
i i haven't watched it recently and i watched
it a ton in previous years but i haven't watched
it recently I don't own it, I'm sorry. He can't
even live up to his recording abilities, folks.
He drops the ball on the scripts, he loses his
internet connection, then he watches fucking
movies! Hey, who spent 20 minutes searching through
my TV guide so I could record all the Christmas
shows beforehand? That's until the Christmas
episode, that's... Actually, what I plan on doing
is, in a couple days, I'm going back home for
a little bit. And I think I'm going to raid,
luckily I don't think my sister ever listens
to this because she's in Australia right now,
but I'm going to raid my sister's room because
I believe she has just about every Disney movie
on either VHS or DVD. So I will be set for the
Disney spotlight in two days. Good. Um, no, what
the? Oh, um, no. Well, yeah, but no. You remember
the voice of Melissa? Maleficent, right? You
were hearing that voice? That is the stepmother
from Cinderella. Okay. That makes sense. And
when I was doing the research in a lot of the
Disney films I found out that Disney reused a
lot of animation. Oh yeah. And I know this is
kind of, I mean we're kind of pretty much breaking
off into the behind the scenes segment now, but
Disney films back in that, back in the 50s and
60s, you know, before the 80s and stuff, I would
assume, like a lot of the films, Alice in Wonderland,
Robin Hood, Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella, a lot
of the animation is reused. uh... and a lot of
characters cross over yeah and a lot of times
ideas that didn't work in other movies reappear
i think in future movies or stuff like that will
get more into that i think that will a little
bit later in this for this actual episode um...
but i have a question for you real quick that
if it comes where one last thing about the characters
since we're looking over the list of characters
and actors and stuff like that uh... you do you
have a favorite least favorite character in this
movie No, it's not really putting me on the spot.
I like a couple of characters, but I really don't
have an overall favorite. I think that Maleficent
is the, to this point, outside of the Queen from
Snow White, she is the scariest Disney villain.
Just at this point of when Disney was making
their movies, you know, I mean, Christ, she turns
into a giant fucking dragon, for Christ's sake.
And of course, I like Prince Philip because he's
standing up to his father for what he, you know,
he believes he's in love with this girl, but
of course, the king doesn't, you know, his father,
I forget what the hell, King, no, King Hubert.
was was Phillips father I doesn't realize that
the girl he fell in love with was Stefan's daughter
I did like King Stefan I I like the two of them
playing off of each other in that scene where
the the jester gets drunk when they're arguing
about who's marrying who and where the wedding's
gonna be the two kings are arguing amongst themselves
and in the background the court jester is getting
drunk out of his ukulele or whatever he's got
I think my favorite, which is odd for me to choose
a character like this, but I think my favorite,
even though she's not present for most of it,
is Princess Aurora. And the reason I say that
is because If you're just going on where Disney
is at at this point, and if you're watching Disney
movies in chronological order, like we mentioned
before, you've seen Snow White and you've seen
Cinderella. And not that I didn't like those
two characters, but as the lead female in those
two characters, they just didn't capture me to
a point. I don't know if it was, you know, as
a kid you're not, it's not like you're attracted,
you're not attracted to them or stuff like that,
but I just didn't care for Snow White as, you
know, the lead female so much. And, you know,
the next step was Cinderella that I didn't care
about either. But in Sleeping Beauty, this was
finally a leading lady in a Disney movie that
I actually, like, had interest in, if that makes
sense. One of the, um, one of the other things
that was said on the commentary track for this,
uh, because I have the, um, The 50th anniversary
2 -Disc Platinum Edition that came out, I believe
it was the end of last year, 2008, or middle
of last year. This is actually the first time
I've ever actually owned Sleeping Beauty on DVD.
On the commentary track, they actually are commenting
about how beautiful the animation on her is how
beautiful her character design is and the commentators
actually thought that she was probably at the
time of these films that were taking place back
before we were born that she was the most beautiful
out of the three of them. I agree. I know people
always say Snow White's this image of perfection
and beauty and stuff like that. I'll take my
Princess Aurora over Snow White any day. We should
also mention that it's actually very funny. Princess
Aurora, the film's main character, appears fewer
than 18 minutes in the entire film, excluding
the time she appears as an infant in the beginning.
which is an amazing, amazing statistic. Goat
is me. Goat is me. Name a movie, Sleeping Beauty,
have the entire movie be about Conan, and then
put them in 15 minute footage. One thing, I understand
they had to change the name of the character
when she went into hiding. Because they are actually,
the fairies are hiding her own identity from
her. um but I didn't like that I didn't like
the whole Briar Rose thing and blah blah blah
you have three names for one friggin character
that's like you know giving your kid two middle
names it's like Michael, Alan, Joseph, Blanchard
it's like crap you're gonna curse the kid with
four fucking names I never had to curse her because
she was such a sweet hero. Well, alright. You
get what I'm saying, though. Yes, I do. Do we
have any other thoughts on the voice cast? No,
I don't have a least favorite character. I like
basically all the characters. I think they each
had qualities that you could like about them,
even if they were because it was scary. The Green
Fairy, I didn't dislike her but she just didn't
have that much to do. I mean whereas Flora and
Merriweather were always fighting with each other,
red, blue, red, blue, red, blue, Flana, she basically
had nothing to do outside of... Yeah. Luckily
she was part of that trio so you can kind of
deal with having a one that's kind of a nobody.
Yeah, true. uh... so going into the uh... behind
the scenes segment uh... as far as the uh...
some notes on the overview in the art direction
sleeping beauty spent nearly the entire decade
of the nineteen fifties in production the story
work began in nineteen fifty one voices were
recorded in nineteen fifty two animation production
took from nineteen fifty three until nineteen
fifty eight the stereo phonic musical score partially
based on Tchaikovsky's Ballet of the Same Name
was recorded in 1957. The film holds a notable
position in Disney Animation as the last Disney
feature to use hand -inked cells, beginning with
the next feature, 101 Dalmatians. Disney would
move to the use of... Yeah, xerography. It's
basically photocopies to transfer animated drawings
from paper to celluloid. It's art which Walt
Disney wanted to look like a living illustration
which was inspired by medieval art was not the
typical Disney style because Disney Studio It
had already made two features based on fairy
tales, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, and Cinderella
and Walt Disney wanted this film to stand out
from its predecessors by choosing a different
visual style. eschewed the soft, rounded look
of earlier Disney features for a more stylized
one. Since Super Technorama 70 was used, it also
meant the backgrounds could contain more detailed
and complex artwork than ever used in an animated
movie before. That's one thing I do have to bring
up. The backgrounds on this movie and just the
details in the backgrounds. Just amazing. Yeah,
it says that the guy painted them usually took
seven to ten days to paint in contrast with it
usually only taking about one work day. So he
was spending seven to ten times the amount of
time on these things and you can tell. Right.
Of interesting note is the fact that Chuck Jones,
who gained fame as an animation director with
Warner Bros. Animation, did some work on the
film. He worked with the studio during a brief
period when Warner Bros. closed its animation
department anticipating that 3D film would replace
animation as a box office draw. When the studio
was reopened following the failure of 3D, Jones
ended his work at Disney and returned to Warner
Brothers. His work on Sleeping Beauty, which
he spent four months on, remained uncredited.
Ironically, during his early years at Warner
Brothers, Jones was a heavy user of Disney -style
animation. I honestly don't think anyone can
argue that point with me. Disney was the first.
Hell, Looney Tunes and Mary Melonies is not really
a direct copy, but it's based off of Disney's
Silly Symphonies. Yeah. I mean, that's just the
way it is. I mean, that's just like, you know,
people nowadays copying off of stuff that came
out in the 80s. It's the same thing, but, you
know... I mean, Warner Brothers did their thing
and, you know, They obviously became very good
at certain aspects of doing, you know, certain
things, but it all, yeah, it all started. So
you've got to understand that. Right. So, a couple
other things I've noticed from here, which is
what we were kind of talking about earlier on,
several story points for this one came from discarded
ideas for Disney's previous fairy tale involving
a sleeping hero and obviously Snow White and
the seven boys. including Malfur's capture of
the Prince, as well as her mocking him, and the
Prince's daring escape from the castle. Disney
discarded these ideas from Snow White because
his artists were not able to draw a human male
believably enough at the time. So they show up
in the comic book version of Snow White, but
didn't really make it into a film until Freaking
Beauty. So it's kind of interesting, some of
the stuff that might have been planned in other
movies before this, but didn't really come to
fruition until Sleeping Beauty. As far as the
live -action reference footage, before animation
production began, every shot in the film was
done in live -action reference, version with
live actors in costumes serving as models for
the animators. The role of Prince Philip was
modeled by Ed Kemmer. who had played Commander
Buzz Corey on television's Space Patrol five
years before Sleeping Beauty was released. For
the final battle sequence, Kimmer was photographed
on a wooden buck. Among the actresses who performed
in reference footage for this film were Spring
Biggerton, Francis Beaver, and Helene Stanley.
Helene Stanley was the live -action reference
for Princess Aurora, the only known surviving
footage of Stanley as Aurora's live -action reference.
is a clip from the television program Disneyland,
which consists of the artist sketching her dancing
with the woodland animals. It was not the first
or last time Stanford worked for Disney. She
also provided live -action references for Cinderella
and Anita from 101 Dalmatians, and portrayed
Polly Crockett for the TV series David Crockett,
King of the Wild Frontier. An episode of the
Mickey Mouse Club television series features
Stanley re -enacting scenes from The Sleeping
Beauty. For the Mouseketeers to watch, a clip
from this episode is included in the special
feature on the Cinderella Platinum Edition DVD.
Oh, that's cool. I'm going to find that actually.
Yeah. I think that's kind of interesting that
they did that. I didn't realize that they had
done that kind of stuff for some of the early
Disney movies. But I think it's cool to use these
live actors as a model for the animators and
the drawers to try to get as close as possible.
So I think that's very cool that they did that
to make it as close to live action as possible.
Yes, very much so. So I guess we can move on
to the actual plot of the film. Why don't you
try to summarize this without... I am not going
to read you the entire plot. You should think
later. The best way we can summarize this is
that princess is born, evil sorceress cast a
spell on her, fairies try to save her, prince
finds her in the forest, falls in love with her.
Fairies screw up. Fairies screw up and let people
know where she's at. She gets lured into, obviously,
the tower and the spinning wheel, which is going
to fulfill the curse made in the beginning of
the whole film. She, you know, goes into her,
luckily, deep sleep instead of death because
of the fairy's magical powers. And basically
then it's just an issue for the rest of the movie
of trying to get the prince to her to kiss her
so that she can wake up. Yes. I did like a lot
of the Prince scenes. I like how they animated
in the courtyard when the King is coming out
to meet him. And as the King is walking, he's
basically hobbling along and his stomach is doing
more walking than his feet are. Because he's
a fat old King. I'm a fat guy myself, but I just
found it very funny the way that they animated
that character to Basically, his stomach is doing
the walking for him even though his feet are
like, you know, hopping up and down. I gotta
say that since we're talking about basically
the overall movie and the plot and stuff like
that, that I think one of the most memorable
Disney scenes of all time for me, and this is
saying a lot because I'm not necessarily, as
much as I've been saying Sleeping Beauty is a
great film, it was great for that time, it probably
wouldn't rank in my top. But I think it does
have one of the most memorable scenes of all
time for a Disney film, and that's the spinning
wheel scene. That scene, it didn't, I don't know
what the right word is for it. It didn't gross
me out necessarily, it didn't freak me out, but
it bothered me so much. Like, it was just such
a great scene, but as a kid you were just, I
don't know, I'm not one that likes needles anyway,
so. Just the fact of her pricking her finger
on the spinning wheel just stuck with me. That
scene I can just picture in my head at will if
I wanted to. You can't say that about every scene
of a movie that you see, especially when you've
seen a thousand Disney movies, but that scene
just sticks with me. And I think the reason why
it probably sticks with you is because of the
way that that scene is lit. I mean come on, it's
eerie green lighting. I mean, that's like Halloween
type scary shit right there. And I think most
kids don't like needles. Oh, yeah. I mean, you
know, most kids don't like needles. They don't
like the idea of getting tricked. They don't
like the idea of, you know, getting the blood
from it or anything like that. So this whole
thing that this is how she's going to get, you
know, this is how she's going to, you know. be
thrown off, of course, and it's just like, ah.
You know, it's not like you don't have that.
You bit into an apple. No kid is afraid of apples.
Like, you know, it doesn't bother you as much,
but the fact that she's been picked in her finger
just shows me. It's like nails on a chalkboard
or something. I do want to read the last paragraph
of the plot synopsis. They arrive at the ballroom
where Aurora is heavily reunited with her parents
and she and Prince Philip dance in waltz. They
do not notice as they dance, Merriweather and
Flora have resumed their disagreement over the
color of her dress and continue to change it
from blue to pink with their magic. As the book
closes, Aurora's gown continues to change colors.
One of the greatest things about these older
Disney films is the fairy tale storybook type
opening and closing. Yeah. Really enjoy that.
Oh, and I guess we kind of, when we were doing
that two -second synopsis of the entire movie,
we left one thing out, so I'll mention it real
quick, which I shouldn't have to because if anybody
hasn't seen this movie, I don't know what happened
in your life. You know, it's like, if he needs
a spoiler alert for a movie that was made in
1959, live and if you're a rock uh... we've we've
we forgot to mention at the beginning of the
film that uh... that the prince and and for those
are basically uh... or their marriage is arranged
at the beginning of it you know basically promise
to each other and that when he falls in love
with uh... brya rose he doesn't realize i think
that that's the print that so he does not want
to miss a couple of minutes briar road and and
the kind of a whole being throughout the movie
of him not realizing that or she realizing that
there one in the bank it's kind of like the whole
clark kent superman thing without glasses really
exactly uh... going through some of the i'm not
going to read all this trivia it's just I'm not
going to read any of it because I don't have
it. I don't have it, so actually we could technically
really skip all the damn trivia, but a flamethrower
was used to create the dragon breath sound effect
for the climax of the movie. Castanets were used
for the sound of it snapping jaws. Oh, that's
kind of cool. Yeah, I didn't realize that. The
elaborate background paintings usually took seven
to ten days to paint. By contrast, typical animation
background takes one work day to complete. Second
only to Dumbo in 1941, who didn't speak at all,
this Disney title character has very few lines
of actual dialogue throughout the entire film,
which is actually about the three fairies who
protect her, not about the Sleeping Beauty herself.
Rose Aurora is only featured in the film, very
few scenes, and hardly ever says anything. She
doesn't utter a single word in the second half
of the film, neither before or after she falls
under the spell. Her first line comes 19 minutes
into the film and her last line comes 30 minutes.
39 minutes into the film. However, she doesn't
sing two songs during that time Castle was named
for this film even though the park opened four
years prior to the film's release The hell's
name at damn castle I don't know. It's not magic.
I know Magic Kingdom is the Disney World. I don't
know The little -known second half of the original
Sleeping Beauty fable involves the prince's attempts
to protect Sleeping Beauty and their children
from his mother who is an ogres. In the end,
of course, she is thwarted and jumps into a pond
of live serpents to avoid being killed by her
own son. That would have been awful! I don't
think I ever want to read that. It wasn't bad
in a future movie. That's a part left out of
that one that they'll incorporate into a future
movie. Um, let's see. Uh, you already mentioned
that. Uh, after she is told that she is betrothed,
Princess Aurora has no lines whatsoever. So bizarre.
In the original fable, Princess Aurora is the
result of a spell cast on the Queen by a magical
fish that she had thrown back into a pond after
it wound up f***ing on the bank. Uh, hmm. Can
you say strek anybody? That's awful. uh... and
honestly don't no i'm not going to read any of
the continuity groups because it's you're supposed
to enjoy the film you know i understand where
we're reviewing it here but you know to cast
is more about remembering it than actually dissecting
the damn thing uh... review all right wants plotholes
A spinning wheel that put Aurora to sleep was
not real, but the shadow of one. Technically,
because of that, she shouldn't have activated
the curse due to false properties. And again,
as we said before, the entire musical score was
done by the... Yeah, the Berlin Symphony Orchestra.
Much of the music score also is based on Tchaikovsky's
Ballet Sleeping Beauty. So going into the legacy
segment here. For the theatrical release, Disney's
distribution Arm Buena Vista Distribution originally
released Sleeping Beauty to theaters in both
standard 35mm prints and large format 70mm prints.
The Super Technorama 70 prints were equipped
with 6 -track stereo phonic sound. Some CinemaScope
compatible 35mm Technorama prints were released
in 4 -track stereo. On the initial run, Sleeping
Beauty was paired with the short musical documentary
film Grand Canyon, which won an Academy Award.
During its original release in 1959, Sleeping
Beauty earned approximately 48 million dollars,
making it second only to Ben Hur and costing
an enormous budget of 6 million dollars. often
citing the film being slowly paced and having
little character development. Nevertheless, the
film has sustained a strong following, obviously,
and it's today hailed as one of the best animated
features ever made, thanks to the painting and
its music score and its stereophonic sound presentation.
And there's no shortage of releases for this
one. Not only did we have the 1959 re -released
theatrically in 1970, 1979, 1986, 1993, 1995,
and 1998. Not wrong. I'm sorry, 2008. In 2008,
when adjusted for ticket price inflation, the
domestic total gross comes out to... $478 .22
million, placing it on the top 30 of adjusted
films. As far as the home video releases, Sleeping
Beauty was released on both VHS, Betamax, and
Laserdisc in 1986, in the Classics collection,
becoming the first Disney Classics video to be
digitally processed in Hi -Fi stereo. The film
underwent a digital restoration in 1997 and that
version was released to both VHS and Laserdisc,
again as part of the masterpiece collection.
The 1997 VHS edition also came with a special
commemorative booklet, included with brief facts
in the making of the movie. In 2003, the restored
Sleeping Beauty was released to DVD in a two
-disc special edition. Now, alright, people need
to pay attention when they're listening to these
releases for DVD. The 2003 version is the two
disc special edition which included both a widescreen
version formatted at 2 .35 colon 1 and pan and
scan version as well. A 50th anniversary Platinum
Edition release of Sleeping Beauty as a 2 -disc
DVD and Blu -ray disc was released October 7,
2008 in the U .S., making Sleeping Beauty the
first entry in the Platinum Edition line to be
released in High Definition Video. This release
is based upon a new 2007 restoration of Sleeping
Beauty from the original Technicolor negatives.
Intra -positives, several generations removed
from the original negative, were used for other
home video releases. The new restoration features
the film in its full negative aspect ratio of
2 .55, wider than both prints shown at the film's
original limited Technorama engagements. The
Blu -ray set features BD Live, an online feature,
and extras include a virtual castle, multiplayer
games. The Blu -ray release also includes disc
one of the DVD version of the film. In addition
to the two Blu -ray discs, the DVD was released
on October 27, 2008 in the UK. The Blu -ray release
is the first ever released on the Blu -ray format
of any Disney DVD feature produced by Walt Disney
himself. Sorry about that ding. I got a notification
from my wireless mouse saying that the batteries
are low. Obviously, you can see Cinderella everywhere.
She has basically filtered through pop culture.
Most notably, probably for today's youth or even
today's 20 -year -olds like us, you can see a
lot of it in the Kingdom Hearts games in different
versions. Kingdom Hearts, Birth by Sleep, the
regular Kingdom Hearts, Kingdom Hearts 2. There's
just all kinds. Actually, Kingdom Hearts Birth
by Sleep will feature a world based on just this
movie. Confirmed characters are Aurora, Malphys
and the Three Fairies, Prince Philip. So you
can see a lot of those characters show up in
that video game. Yes. Princess Aurora, Prince
Philip, Flora Fauna, and Merriweather were featured
as guests in Disney's House of Mouse, and Maleficent
was one of the villains in Mickey's House of
Villains. Maleficent's goons appear in the Maroon
cartoon -steal lot in the film Who Framed Roger
Rabbit. First all -new story featuring the characters
from the movie appeared in Disney Princess and
Chanted Tales Follow Your Dreams, the first volume
of collection of the Disney Princesses. It was
released on September 4th, 2007. Various characters
from the film also appear in the board game of
the same name. There was actually theme parks.
Sleeping Beauty was made while Walt Disney was
building Disneyland, hence four -year production
to time. To help promote the film, Imagineers
named the park's icon Sleeping Beauty Castle.
Honestly, for me, I know that Disneyland out
in California is the first park that he built.
But Walt Disney World in Florida is the only
one I recognize. An indoor walkthrough. Honestly,
I really don't care about any of these damn parts.
You can see them in all kinds of different parts.
That's all there is to it. Yeah, pretty much.
So, going into the closing and final thoughts,
what are your final thoughts on this? Like I
said before, I think you can sum it up for me
like this. As far as the original fairy tale
Disney movies, this is the best one because it's
more enjoyable for the male audience. It might
not be the favorite one for females out there.
I don't know. I'd have to poll them. But even
though it's the best out of the original fairy
tales, I wouldn't put it up there. I'm a guy.
I like my Jungle Book. I like some of the other
later Disney movies better. It was what it was
at the time and I think it's better than Snow
White. I think it's better than Cinderella. How
beautiful. and you like Disney films, I would
recommend this one. I would highly recommend,
before it goes out of print and you have to end
up paying over $50 for it, I would recommend
you get the 50th Anniversary Platinum 2 -Disc
Edition. It's got tons of bonus features on it.
It's very cool. I'm looking at it right now.
You know how a lot of these DVDs have that It's
not really lenticular packaging, but it's that
it's that slip case. It's the sleeve this one.
It's Embossed like the like the wall like the
castle is embossed the dragon and the fire coming
out of the dragon The fairies are embossed on
it. The title is embossed on it It's just a very
very cool cover I mean, you know, of course most
people don't buy DVDs just for the cover obviously
but Two disc editions are the way to go unless
you're going to go blue. Which, yeah, I have
yet to go blue yet. But anyway, that's another
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