The Flintstones and The Jetsons

Hello, and welcome to the 21st episode of Tooncast

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I am your host, TFD1Mike, and today I am joined

by the television making her Tooncast debut.

Hello. Hi there. How are you? I am doing fantastic.

Yay. We are going to be talking about the classic

cartoons of the Jetsons and the Flintstones.

So why don't you tell everybody a little bit

about yourself. because first time you've been

on our show i know i follow you on twitter and

i know you do a whole bunch of other stuff with

your website and blogging and stuff like that

Yes, I mainly have a television blog called TheTelevixen

.com and just over the past summer I dabbled

in a bit of podcasting and was doing a True Blood

podcast throughout the second season of the show

and soon I'll be launching my new podcast. So

if you check out the site, you'll see what that

one will be. It's going to be launched at the

beginning of the upcoming week. Cool, cool. Yeah,

you need to update your image on there and have

her straddling a flat screen TV, not the old

time TV. Well, I was trying to go with the, you

know, kind of vintage pin -up, Betty Page look,

and the vintage TV worked better for that look.

Yeah, yeah. So yeah, like I said, we're going

to be talking about Jetsons and Flintstones today.

I'm trying to make a couple of programming notes.

My original co -host, Kevin, is still MIA I believe

he is still without internet access and I know

he is really really kicking himself in the ass

for oh yeah and by the way we are explicit so

if you have the need to curse go ahead okay you

know I I know he's kicking himself in the ass

for all the content that he is missing hopefully

we can get him on the show permanently soon until

then we will still be looking for a co -host

every week and by we I say me because I'm left

holding the ball Yeah, so we're gonna get in

also coming up this week you're gonna get two

episodes you're gonna get this one Which is as

I said Jetsons and Flintstones for episode 21

and my other friend Michael Wilson who is co

-hosted with us on toy cast and the TFD one podcast

We will be talking about it's the great pumpkin

Charlie Brown for Halloween and that will be

released on Halloween So we will be right back

Meet the Flintstones, they're the Martin Snowy

family. From the brown and red rock, they're

a piece of our history. That's right, with the

band down the street, through the courtesy of

friends to meet, when you're with the Flintstones.

It is now time for the history lesson. For episode

21 we travel back to 1960 with The Flintstones.

The Flintstones is an animated American television

sitcom that ran from 1960 to 1966 on ABC. The

series was the first primetime animated series

aimed at adults produced by Hanna -Barbera Productions.

The Flintstones is about a working class stone

-aged man's life with his family and his next

door neighbor and best friend. It has since been

re -released on both DVD and VHS. The show played

like a prehistoric honeymooners and its popularity

rested heavily on its juxtaposition of modern

-day concerns in the Stone Age setting. And now

we are going to move on to the general memories.

I like with the last episode, I don't know if

everyone's heard it yet, but the last episode

I was talking about Looney Tunes and you know

I was born in 1980, so I grew up in the 80s,

and thinking that these cartoons were coinciding

with as I'm growing up. And apparently no. The

Looney Tunes were back in the 30s originally

as theatrical, you know, theatrical film series,

and of course these were in the 60s, you know,

Flintstones was in the 60s, and I'm like, wow.

Huh. But I mean, you know, I don't know, I really

enjoyed the show at first. I didn't see the connection

between the Honeymooners, but... after rewatching

it like on boomerang and stuff here in the states

because we need to mention that I'm in the US

and you're in Canada so yes two different networks

I like some of the episodes but I don't like

all of them of course I don't remember all of

them I remember quite a few of them it was lunchtime

viewing for me from the time I'd say as far back

as when I was two And every day at noon on CTVN

Canada was the Flintstones. And I remember even

when I started kindergarten, we would leave for

school as soon as the Flintstones was over. And

once I was in school full time, I was disappointed

that I missed the Flintstones every day. So all

summer I made sure, even if I'd seen each episode

five, six times, I'd watch them again. And it

was just such an important part of growing up.

And I know exactly what you mean. I totally didn't

make the connection that these episodes were

way older than I was. I thought it was happening

at the same time. And it wasn't until I was probably,

I don't know, closer to nine or 10 that I realized.

Hey, you know, these are from quite a while ago

and kind of knew a bit of the history of the

time and had started watching other shows like

I Love Lucy and seeing little connections between

them there and then it completely made sense

to me. Oh, yeah, I completely agree. You know,

and it's the same thing now. You know, I mean,

you really can't compare Looney Tunes to the

Flintstones or the Jetsons, but. They're in that

same type of almost Golden Age animation. Looney

Tunes is Golden Age animation, but Flintstones

and Jetsons could be classified as that same

thing where it basically transcends time. Exactly.

You don't realize that it's 1960s. Yeah, some

of their references obviously are dated, but

they do it in such a way that it doesn't matter.

Like I'm thinking in terms of some of the parodies

on different celebrities they had on the show,

that really transcends time. So yeah, it's one

of those shows that I think has been around this

long and I think for... many decades to come

will still be a favorite and a popular choice.

Oh yeah, very, very much so. So I think we're

going to move on to the voice actors and characters

segment. The Fun Stones live at 323 Cobblestone

Lane in Bedrock. However, in the Season 2 episode,

The X -Ray Story, their address is given as 25

Stone Cave Road. Also in season one episode no

help wanted their address is shown as 201 cobblestone

lane an additional address of 342 gravel pit

Terrace is given repeatedly in the episode in

episode 151 the masquerade party which aired

in season 6 So there is a bunch of continuity

errors with the address Yeah, I think that probably

at that time people weren't really paying attention

to that no As far as characters, for the actual

Flintstones you have Frederick Joseph, quote

-unquote Fred Flintstone, his wife Wilma Pebbles,

Slag Hoople Flintstone, holy crap. Wow, that's

like giving your kid four names, a first, two

middle, and a last. Pebbles, Flintstone, Dino,

Baby Puss, Pearl, Pebbles, Pebbles, Slagapal,

who is her mother. uh... tex hard rock fred's

uncle a lot of those other secondary characters

for the flintstones i don't really remember them

uh... seek i do remember because he was the one

that owned uh... sandstone cement a a pun on

the california town san clemente that was the

site of richard nixon's western white house of

course and you have the rebels barney betty bam

bam and hobby the rebels pet hopper who a kangaroo

dinosaur combination creature i wanted a hopper

room I thought it would be so cool to show up

at school in Hoppy's front pouch, and you know.

Yeah. And that annoying noise he always used

to make. I can't do it, but it's close enough.

Some other character you had is Mr. Slate, Joe

Rockhead, Sam Slagheap. The Great Gazoo, oh boy,

an alien exiled to Earth who helps Fred and Barney

often against their will. Dumb Dums. These characters,

you know, now that I'm almost 30 years old come

this February, I see the full -on connection

between Fred and Barney as far as, you know,

Jackie Gleason and, oh crap, what was the neighbor's

name? Wasn't it Ed? Yeah. Yeah, I think that

was the character name But I mean I you know

I see the connection to where they get the you

know the fact that this show is based off of

the honeymooners You know because they're always

going to lodge meetings or bowling or you know

stuff like that to get away from the wives I

guess Who are some of your favorite characters

from this show? I always really thought I liked

Barney and Fred. I liked their kind of, they

had that whole love -hate going on. You know,

they were the best of friends and the worst of

enemies given the circumstances. But I always

thought Betty was a really cool character. I

don't know if it was because she had brown hair

and I have brown hair and I automatically was

attracted to her for that reason. Or if it was

just she was kind of, she was kind of a voice

of reason in a lot of cases. She always seemed

to be a really good friend, and of all the characters,

she seemed the most real. And I think that's

why I thought she was pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah,

I agree. You know, I actually, you know, I like

the love -hate friendship or relationship between

Fred and Dino. That was always so, so funny.

As far as the voice cast, it has been noted that

Fred Flintstone physically resembles voice actor

Alan Reed and also Jackie Gleason, the voice

of Barney was provided by legendary voice actor

Mel Blank. I never knew that until I started

doing research for last week's episode, for the

Looney Tunes episode. I never knew that that

was Mel Blank. I never associated him with anything

outside of, you know, Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck,

Porky Pig. Uh -huh. I do remember seeing that

and it's probably only because I've probably

seen each episode of the Flintstones at least

three dozen times and just seeing the credits

and seeing the name in there and I remember making

that connection as a kid. I think there was a

block of television at one point where there

was Looney Tunes and Flintstones in the same

block and I'm like, hey, look, it's the same

guy. Yeah. yeah very very much so um mel also

not to really get off on a tangent here but mel

also did captain caveman ah i see i didn't know

that one yep if you just listen to him say captain

you know just the whole shouting you'll be able

to tell ah See, we didn't get a lot of... Captain

Caveman was on one of the US networks that we

would get sometimes up here, but not all the

time, so that's not one of the shows I watched

regularly. There wasn't a Canadian network that

was airing that one when I was younger, so I'm

not as well -versed in Captain Caveman as my

friends to the south of the border, maybe. Yeah

As far as the voice cast, you know there I don't

think in our in our all are the ones that have

been published so far out of our 20 episodes

I don't think none of the people I've had on

the show or my regular co -host Kevin has had

a single bad thing to say about an entire voice

cast now Kevin does not like Lynn Lipton who

did Chitara in in Thundercats, but We've never

outright said we effing hate the entire voice

cast and this is pretty much the same thing um...

even though i don't outside of mel blank i don't

recognize a lot of these people well mel blank

don messick and uh... does butler outside of

those three i don't recognize a lot of them well

there's harvey quorman Was it Jean Vanderpil?

I'm not sure how you pronounced it. I know that

she was a staple in pretty much a lot of the

Hanna -Barbera series. I remember hearing her

voice in other cartoons and saying, hey, that's

Wilma. you know each individual voice actor I

would have you know I think I have more than

enough research yeah but I mean if I had looked

up each individual one but I mean you know you

look at shows like like Looney Tunes obviously

is Mel Blank but like Thundercats and Transformers

and you know stuff like that GI Joe you know

a majority of those are all crossover voice artists

and you know peter cullen was in chippendale's

rescue rangers is monterey jack you know i mean

but my gosh there's going to be he didn't know

that there's going to be uh... different um...

different shows but a lot of the same voice actors

that that'll show up and of course as you get

into these older shows you know it's not going

to be that case if you go past obviously eighties

So we're gonna move on to the oh if you had to

pick a favorite character for the entire show

Who would your favorite character be? Would it

still be Betty? You know what I think so Yeah,

definitely Betty. Yeah, I I like See it's so

hard for me to pick just one, but I think I'm

gonna go with Barney because he was always the

he was more of the The level -headed one, but

he was also the follower. I mean, he would follow

Fred to the ends of the earth and try to get

him out of trouble. Yeah. Okay, so the behind

-the -scenes segment. For the production, originally

the series was to have been titled The Flagstones,

and a brief demonstration film was created to

sell the idea of a modern Stone Age family to

sponsors and the network. When the series itself

was commissioned, the title was changed, possibly

to avoid confusion with the flag's dawns, characters

in the comic strip High and Lowes. After spending

a brief period of development as the Gladstones,

oh wow, gladstone being a Los Angeles telephone

exchange at the time, Hannah Barbera settled

upon the Flintstones. Aside from animation and

fantasy setting, the show's scripts and format

are typical of 1950s, 1960s American situation

comedies. But the usual family issues resolve

with a laugh at the end of each episode. Now,

you know, I've talked to a lot of people about

the Flintstones and stuff, and there are some

people that really don't like it because of the

whole fact that it is basically, you know, as

we've said, it's a honeymooners type of deal.

But for those of us who didn't grow up with the

honeymooners, I could almost associate it with

The Cosby Show, only because of the laugh track

bit. Because, you know, There is a laugh track

in, obviously, the Flintstones and the Cosby

show whenever something funny or crazy happens.

I don't know. I kind of saw a lot of, I'm not

saying in terms of the characters, but a little

bit of Fred in Archie Bunker and all in the family.

Which is another show I've watched in syndication

way after it's run, growing up. I didn't really

watch a lot of The Honeymooners. It was on for

a while when I was a kid, but I wasn't really

into it. It wasn't my thing. I kind of saw that

whole sitcom quality in it. I recognized that

Flintstones was different from any of the other

animated shows I was watching at the time. Oh,

right. Yeah. Yeah. You know, majority of the

Flintstones episodes are standalone storylines.

The series did have a few story arcs. The most

notable example was a series of episodes surrounding

the birth of Pebbles, beginning with the episode,

The Surprise, aired midway through the third

season, in which Wilma reveals her pregnancy

to Fred. The arc continued throughout the trials

and tribulations leading up to Pebbles' birth

in the episode Dress Rehearsal. It continued

with several episodes showing Fred and Wilma

adjusting to the world of parenthood. Now, I

never saw those episodes. Every Flintstones episode

I've ever seen was Pebbles was already born and

she was like a little toddler age, almost walking.

I don't ever remember seeing the whole pregnancy

thing. And I don't ever remember them not having

Pebbles already born. It's been a long time since

I've seen them, but I do remember seeing Walma

pregnant in at least one or two of the episodes.

And I think I do remember when she was actually

born. Fred holding her and he just melts into

this puddle and it was just so cute. You know,

kind of hot headed Fred just has a little girl,

you know, the whole daddy's little girl thing.

It was just like he totally melted when it came

to his little girl. Right, exactly. A postscript

to the arc occurred in the third episode of the

fourth season in which the rubbles, depressed

over being unable to have children of their own,

this is actually making the Flintstones the first

animated series in history to address the issue

of infertility, though very subtly. They adopt

Bam Bam, the 100th episode made, but 90th to

air. Little Bam Bam established how Bam Bam was

adopted. About nine episodes were made before

it, but shown after. which explains why BamBam

would not be seen again until episode 101, Daddy's

Anonymous. BamBam was in a teaser episode 98,

Kleptomaniac, Pebbles, another story arc occurring

in the final season centered on Fred and Barney's

dealings with the Great Gazoo, voiced by Harvey

Corman. You know, that's got to be some sort

of landstone or some sort of milestone. As far

as animation back then, tackling an issue like

that. I think just TV in general. I don't remember

anything else. I was watching, even in the 80s,

stuff that was new in the 80s, dealing with those

issues. I actually think maybe my first example

of an adoption on television was BamBam. Yeah,

you know, I agree. The Flintstones was the first

American animated show to depict two people of

the opposite sex, Fred and Wilma and Barney and

Betty, sleeping together in one bed, although

Fred and Wilma are sometimes depicted as sleeping

in separate beds. For comparison, the first live

-action depiction of this is in the American

TV history was television's first ever sitcom,

1947, Mary Kay and Johnny. Huh, I didn't know

that I mean I've seen a lot of like period pieces

where obviously the husband would sleep in a

bed and the wife would sleep in the other I think

the I think the most The most ones that I remember

like that are the excuse me are these thin man

movies with William Holmes and William Loy William

Powell and Myrna Loy, okay So I actually forgot

to I forgot to put the directors and writers.

It was a Hannah Barbera production, so I'm pretty

sure that William Hannah and Joseph Barbera were

executive producers. I'm not sure who directed

it. I was looking at so much research. This won't

air until next, this coming Wednesday, but the

Friday before this record, I was looking at so

much research. I don't know what the heck I did

with the directors and writers for this show.

It's like information overload. Yeah. Gonna move

on to the actual show. The show is set in the

town of Bedrock in some of the earlier episodes

it was referred to as Rockville in the Stone

Age era. The show is an allegory to American

society of the mid -20th century. In the Flintstones

fantasy version of the past, dinosaurs, saber

-toothed tigers, mullet mammoths, and other long

extinct animals coexist with barefoot cavemen

who use technology very similar to that of the

mid -20th century, although made entirely from

pre -industrial materials and largely powered

through the use of various animals. The characters

drive cars made out of stone or wood and animal

skins powered by foot. One thing that a friend

of mine who actually Co -hosted last episode

Ron Algarwatt he had posed question of you know

they have They have all these animals like you

know the animal for the telephone or the animal

you know the one I remember the most now because

I just watched it recently I tried to find it

online was the the crossover movie Jetsons meet

the Flintstones where Fred leans over and hits

the bird's head for his alarm clock Yeah, where

the how the hell did they get their TV power?

Because wasn't no bird or animal in the back

of that TV that they had Yeah, see and I remember

an episode where Barney became a a repo man and

Fred was making payments on his TV and he hadn't

made a payment recently and And the repo boss

said go get it. And I remember seeing a plug

when Barney took the TV. Now they made it appear

that the TV was so heavy being, you know, encased

in stone and stuff, but that probably, you know,

I can't confirm this because it's been a while

since I've seen that episode, but I do remember

that. Now that might be something on the animator's

part where they, you know, they just couldn't

couldn't justify, you know, a Pickasaurus garbage

disposal or something for a TV. I was just gonna

ask you, I remember the garbage disposal but

couldn't remember what the creature was called

and you just answered my question. Yeah, the

only reason why I know it is because like I said,

Friday I had been so... I had been scouring the

internet to try to find the crossover Jetsons

Meet the Flintstones film. And, you know, it's,

what, almost 2010. I haven't had a VCR in four

years. So, yeah, the DVD of that needs to come

out because the only available media for that

crossover film is a VHS or beta tape. And, yeah,

who the hell has beta anymore? Who the hell had

it then? Yeah, really. Exactly. As far as the

humor for the show, one source of the show's

humor was the ways the animals were used for

technology. For example, when the characters

took photographs with an instant camera, the

inside of the camera box would be shown to contain

a bird carving the picture on a stone tablet

with its bill. In a running gag, the animals

powering such technology would be breaking the

fourth wall, look directly into the camera at

the audience, shrug, and remark, it's a living,

or some similar phrase. I remember some of the

funniest moments yeah especially the phone when

you know some of them would slam like if Fred

would slam the phone down and I don't know other

commonly seen gadgets in the series included

a baby woolly mammoth being used as a vacuum

cleaner an adult woolly mammoth would act as

a shower by spraying water with its trunk now

I I need to say that they don't actually say

in the series that it's a woolly mammoth because

i remember in uh... again the crossover film

uh... fred does say well mother the elephants

out of hot water again so they actually say elephant

in the show i think i used to call it a snuffle

up against the kids well good lord now we're

crushed well play sesame street yeah yeah yeah

i'd I can see where you would do that. I probably

did it myself, but of course I don't remember

that far back. Oh, I do remember. Lifts being

raised and lowered by ropes around Brontosaurus's

necks. Automatic windows are powered by monkeys

that dwell on the outside of the birds, configured

as car horns. Activated by pulling on their tails

or squeezing their bodies. Now that has to be

abuse. I'm sorry. That has to be animal cruelty

right there. Imagine what would have happened

if PETA was really active back then. Boy, let's

not go there. It's way too deep for this show.

I don't know if they get into the fictional animal

realm at all, but that could have gotten messy.

Yeah. Um, Holly Rock. Travel to Holly Rock, a

parody of Hollywood California, usually involved

an airplane flight The plane, in this often shown

as a giant pterodactyl, other familiar place

names are similarly contorted. San Antonio becomes

Sand and Stonio. The country to the south of

Bedrock's land is called Mexarock and so forth.

Hmm, I wonder what Canada would have been. Cana

Stone. Yeah, Cana Stone or Canarock. Well, I

want a Canarock. Anne Margaret, as Anne Margrock,

was one of many famous names who lent their likenesses

and voices to the series. She later appeared

in the Flintstones in Viva Rock Vegas, which

was a horrible, horrible film. That was the live

-action prequel to the original Flintstones movie.

The Stone Age setting allowed for gags and puns

involving rocks. The names of various characters

being rock puns, and these included celebrities

of the 1960s such as Gary Granite, which is Cary

Grant, Stony Curtis, which is Tony Curtis, Ed

Sully Rock, or Sully Stone Ed Sullivan, Rock

Pile, Corey, Hud Stone, which is Rock Hudson,

Anne Margerock, which is Anne Margaret, Alvin

Brickrock, which is Alfred Hitchcock. You know

which other one I remember? Was Gina Lolo...

What did he used to call her? Gina Lolo Brigida?

He used to call her Gina Lolo Brickida or something?

And Fred used to sing, Oh Lolo Brigida, your

food I digida. Do you remember that one? Oh,

no. She was like an Italian cook and she was

based on the actress Gina Lola Brigida. Right,

right. That's one I remember vividly. Like that

and the Ann Margrach are the two that really

stood out for me. Yeah. You know, as we've said

before, this show, obviously it is a little bit

dated, but it's not so dated to where it doesn't

hold up today. I think a lot of the same problems

that they show in the cartoon, a lot of people

have today. You know, marital problems, you know,

husband goes out and sees, you know, goes out

to, you know, a lodge, Buffalo Lodge meeting

or something and comes home three hours late

and of course the wife's gonna get pissed or

whatever. So, you know, I mean, a lot of the

same issues exist today. It's not like throwing

a Johnny Cochran in every episode, you know,

dating it completely to that, you know, that

time period. Also you saw you saw a lot of like

particularly Fred would end up drunk Yes, he

would yeah Yes, he would and of course. There's

always a very very suspicious Way he got into

the card game in the Jetsons meet the Flintstones

movie by him and Barney dressing in drag yes

Well, actually, Barney dressed in the drag. Fred

was in the Southern Gentleman. That was it. Yeah,

that's what it was. We're going to move on to

the music segment. Crap. Stupid people. I thought

I turned that off. The theme song, everybody

remembers this theme song and I put the lyrics

in the show notes here just because... I believe,

you know, well I know you don't watch Boomerang

because you all don't get it up there on Boomerang

sometimes when I would watch this show. Boomerang

has like these little interstellar things saying,

you know, like they'll have the theme songs of

whatever old timey show that they're airing and

they'll write facts about it and I remember I

remember it saying that Let's ride with the family

down the street through the courtesy of Fred's

two feet. Those two lines are the ones that people

cannot remember the most out of the entire theme

song. You know, I don't know. I remember them,

but... Or they make up words. Yeah, that's true.

You know, very, very catchy theme song. And of

course it goes along with that is the... the

imagery of them, you know, going out to the drive

-in and getting the giant rack of brontosaurus

ribs and the chick putting them on the car and

the car tips over. The opening and closing credits

theme during the first two seasons was called

Rise and Shine, a lively instrumental underscore

accompanying Fred on his drive home from work.

For the third season and beyond, the opening

and closing credits theme was the familiar vocal,

Meet the Flintstones. Now see, I don't remember

the first two seasons. I remember the Meet the

Flintstones one. So apparently all the episodes

that I've seen are from season three and beyond.

I don't ever remember the original season one,

season two theme. I... I'm trying to remember,

I'm sure they showed season one and season two

episodes, but they may have just tacked on the

opening, the different opening. Right, right.

Yeah. I'm not really sure. What did you think

of the music for this show? Because honestly,

I really don't, outside of the theme, and I've

mentioned this in a bunch of other of our episodes,

like a lot of shows will take the opening theme

music and put it like in different instances

throughout each episode and honestly I don't

I remember the laugh track more than I remember

the music in each episode yeah there was very

generic kind of a generic kind of score to it

in addition to like the theme song I don't remember

ever being used in an episode yeah I don't either

really I remember, and I can't cite a specific

example, but I do remember some of the songs,

like, what was the dance craze that they had?

Oh, wow. I don't think I have it in the notes.

I remember that having a specific song. I think

I also remember it was supposed to be The Beatles,

but they called themselves something else. Yeah.

It was a mop -top group of guys. Yeah. Yeah,

that's actually I'm trying to look it up now

because I honestly I remember looking at that

in in the in the wiki article And I just didn't

I don't know I just didn't write it down here

You know I do think that you know the The theme

for the show is one of the classic all -time

cartoon themes It's not a theme that you can

easily forget about especially after After the...

Crap, I lost my train of thought. Let's see...

Voice cast in a production industry... I'm trying

to see here... What is the... I'm trying to see

here what the... It's not showing me awards for

the Flintstones. Sorry about this, folks. I'm

just trying to find this and I can't find it.

Yeah, I don't remember what the... It's something

like... It's like a Stone Age version of Twist

and Shout, I think. That's exactly. Yeah, it's...

I don't the bedrock twist. That's what it was.

That was it. Yes. Holy crap Okay, so now all

of a sudden I'm remembering my dad singing it

Wow So on that note we're gonna move into the

legacy segment what we do here is we go over

like the different It's, you know, I say every

episode, it's become a running joke on this podcast

that we mention the IGN top 100 animated TV shows

in January 2009. IGN named the Flintstones as

the ninth best in its top 100 animated TV shows.

And the reason why my original co -host Kevin

and I pretty much have... said screw the IGN

list is because some of the rankings that they

use and I understand it's hard to rank these

shows I get that because you have to be objective

but screw objectivity they're all number one

to me but I mean you know some of them are placed

at numbers where I just don't think they should

belong and I would like I may eventually go over

to IGN and and see that list at some point to

see what the actual number one show is. Films

and subsequent TV series. Following the show's

cancellation in 1966, a film based on the series

was created, The Man Called Flintstone, with

a musical spy -caver that parodied James Bond

and other secret agents. The movie was released

to theaters on August 3rd, 1966 by Columbia Pictures.

It was released on DVD in Canada in March of

2005 and the United States in December 2008.

Wow, you guys got it three years before we did.

That's so wrong. There must have been some type

of a Canadian connection to it. I know that there's

a couple of different animation companies that

stuff has come out here before it came out south

of the border. Yes, yes. I don't actually remember

that film at all. I don't either. Yeah, I don't

remember ever seeing it. The show was revived

in the 1970s with Pebbles and Bam Bam having

grown into teenagers in several different series

and made for TV movies, including a series depicting

Fred and Barney as police officers, another depicting

the characters as children, and yet others featuring

Fred and Barney encountering Marvel comic superhero

The Thing and comic strip character the schmoo,

having appeared over the years. The original

show also was adapted into a live -action film

in 1994 in a prequel, The Flintstones and Viva

Rock Vegas, which followed in 2000. Now, the

Flintstones live -action film, the first one

in 1994, I thought that was very good. They got

John Goodman and Rick Moranis to play Fred and

Barney. Now, you normally wouldn't think of Fred

and Barney as John Goodman and Rick Moranis,

but it worked. It did. I remember seeing that

one and it was an entertaining little movie.

Yes, I don't remember who played Wilma, but unfortunately...

I think it was Elizabeth Perkins. Oh, was it?

Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I couldn't remember for the

life of me who played Wilma, but I remember who

the hell played Betty, and I could not stand

it. And Rosie O'Donnell played Betty Rubble.

What the hell? Yeah, that was probably the one

time I did not like Betty. But... I do have to

give her some credit because she did get Betty's

laugh down a little bit. You know what? Yeah,

she did do an excellent job on that, but I had

a hard time buying her as Betty, whereas Elizabeth

Perkins as Wilma was perfect. Oh, yes. And I

still see her on other things to this day, and

I still think of her as Wilma. Yeah, that's true.

Now I did not know anything about this, but apparently

there are at least two Flintstones themed amusement

parks existing in the United States. One in Custer,

South Dakota, and another in Arizona. Both have

been in operation for decades. One did previously

exist in Australia at Sydney's Wonderland and

Hanna -Barbera theme dominated by small children's

rides from 1985 up until the late 90s. We had

one too. In Toronto we had Canada's Wonderland

and their children's area was Hanna -Barbera

land. There was a predominant Flintstones area

and they'd have people dressed up as the Flintstones.

I remember going there as a kid and then Paramount

bought the park. They've since sold it but when

Paramount bought the park they kind of scaled

back on all the Hanna -Barbera references. A

stage production opened at Universal Studios

Hollywood in 1994, the year the live -action

film was released, developed by Universal and

Hanna -Barbera Productions. It opened at the

Panasonic Theatre, replacing the Star Trek show.

Oh, sorry Star Trek fans. The story consists

of Fred, Wilma, Barney and Betty heading for

Hollyrock. The show ran until January 2, 1997.

I would have liked to have seen that, actually.

That probably would have been a lot of fun. Yeah.

As far as the broadcast history, in the United

States we had ABC, NBC, Cartoon Network, Boomerang,

and CBS. As far as Canada, it was on CTV, TQS,

TVA, Prize, I think that's a surprise too, YTV,

Teletoon, Teletoon Retro, and TFO. And apparently

on TVA it's running even today. I don't know

what TVA is, but... I believe on TVA and in TFO

it's in French. It's dubbed in French. That's

so wrong. That's just so wrong. I'm sorry. That's

just so, so wrong. Yeah, there'd be Quebec networks

and there's a lot of pockets of Quebec where

there are no English speakers. Canada's a nice

place to live, a nice place to visit but I wouldn't

want to live there. That's just one province

though. Yeah I know. The rest of the country's

a really big place. Let's see, some of the television

series we had outside of the actual show of the

Flintstones was the Pebbles and Bam Bam show,

the Flintstones Comedy Hour, Fred Flintstone

and Friends, the new Fred and Barney show, Fred

and Barney Meet the Thing, Fred and Barney Meet

Shamu, The Flintstone Comedy Show, Flintstone

Funnies, The Flintstones Kids, which I do remember

watching that. That was a good, that was among

the years where this whole let's show them as

kids thing came up. Way back in episode six of

this podcast we talked about a pup named Scooby

Doo. That was out pretty much the same time this

was. Weren't the Muppet Babies out around the

same time? Muppet Babies. I mean, it was just

a whole nostalgia thing to where, oh, let's show

them when they were before Shaggy and Scooby

and all of them are the big mystery machine and

mystery ink and all that stuff. And I do have

a pup named Scooby Doo on DVD. It's hilarious.

It's just great. I like that show more than I

do. Scooby -Doo, where are you? Dino World Premiere

Tunes featuring Stay Out and the great Eggscape.

Cave Kids, Pebbles and Bam Bam. Pebbles and Bam

Bam's Kids. Wow, that's coming next year. Oh

wow, they're doing another show next year for

it. Now the television specials, I don't remember

a lot of them. I remember a Flintstone Christmas,

and I remember a Flintstone Family Christmas.

I also remember, what was the other one? I, Yabba

Dabba Doo was my favorite. Oh, the 50 Years of

Hannah Barbera, yeah. No, the I, Yabba Dabba

Doo, it's the one when Pebbles and Bam Bam get

married. Oh, yeah. I love that one. I have it

taped. off television on a VHS tape and occasionally

my sister and I when we're together we'll break

it out and we'll watch it. Now I do remember

seeing last year on Boomerang a Flintstones Christmas

Carol which is basically the same thing that

Disney did with Mickey and Scrooge. It's basically

the same premise except in this the Flintstones

are trying to put on a play of a Christmas Carol.

It's not actually taking the Flintstones characters

like Disney did and making the story about those

characters. It's Fred is Fred, Barney is Barney,

but they're trying to get the costumes and characters

to put the play on, which I thought was a really,

really cool thing. And again, the Jetsons meet

the Flintstones, which was a very, very Very

excellent crossover, I thought. I love that film.

They used to show it on TV probably once a year

here, and now it's been at least five years since

I've caught it on television. Yeah, that kind

of stinks, actually. So, let's see. There were

awards for the show. The Flintstones was nominated

for Emmy in 1961 for Outstanding Program Achievement

in the Field of Humor. They lost to the Jack

Benny show unfortunately in 2006 the Flintstones

was again nominated for TV land awards for greatest

TV dance craze the twitch That was the other

one. Okay. That was the other one. Okay? We've

already really gone over some of the popular

culture References here as far as the DVD releases

all six seasons are on DVD as well as the complete

series The complete series is basically a limited

edition collector's box features all six seasons

with over 4 .5 hours of bonus features. The box

that was only released in the US is available

in Canada as an import. You can also get it in

Australia through Atomic Movies. Now, when they

first showed pictures of this, it was made really

to look like the Flintstones TV. the whole like

stone type of outside with the screen on the

inside and of course the logo of the Flintstones,

the title redid the packaging to make it look

more like the not the wheel but the part of the

car where it's more of a orange type image around

it and not just stone it's more of a flat almost

airbrush type of image I do want that complete

series set. I don't have it unfortunately, but

I would love to get it. There are a ton of video

games for this series. I did not know this at

all. Neither did I. I mean, there's just tons

of them. Fred Flintstone's Memory Match for arcades,

the Flintstones for Sega Master System, Commodore

64, Flintstones King Rock Treasure Island for

Game Boy, Flinstone's The Treasure of Sierra

Madrock for Super Nintendo. There's just a ton

of them. I love that title. Treasure of Sierra

Madrock. That's awesome. The Flinstone's Rescue

of Dino and Hoppy for NES. Wow. And apparently,

Bedrock Bowling for PlayStation, In Viva Rock

Vegas for PS2. Yeah, I don't think I could ever

play any of these games No, I don't think so

either There was a bunch of comic books. I'm

not well There's a few Western publishing put

out the title Flintstones first by Dell Comics

for six issues 1961 to 62 then by Gold Key Comics

for 54 issues in 1962 to 1970 Charlton Comics

then put on a title for 50 issues in 70 to 77

other titles by Charlton included Barney and

Betty Rebel for 23 issues in 1973 to 76. Dino

for 20 issues in 73 to 77. The Great Gazoo for

20 issues in 1973 to 77. Hevels and Bam Bam for

36 issues from 72 to 76. I don't know if I could

actually read an entire comic devoted to Dino.

I like Dino as a character, but he has to be

with the family. I just can't see him. Dino is

not Snoopy where you can take Snoopy and put

him in Joe Cool or World War One flying ace.

Yeah. Dino is not that type and I just can't

picture him without being with Fred Wilma and

the rest of the gang. So I think we're gonna

do our final thoughts on the Flintstones. What

are your final thoughts on this show? My final

thoughts? You know, I really can't think of another

show that has had such a significant impact on

just like... Just everyday catch phrases and

stuff like that like there are certain aspects

from the Flintstones that people still use to

this day like if you say you go out for ribs

with a friend and the ribs are exceptionally

big you know they're brontosaurus ribs and where

did you learn that on the Flintstones when it's

someone's anniversary you go over and sing the

infamous happy anniversary song from the episode

when it was Fred and Wilma's anniversary you

know just these little things that that come

into play or the whole even Even just the yabba

dabba doo, these things are timeless and I think

that for, like I said before, for many, many

decades to come, more people will discover this

and it will become just a part of the cultural

lexicon. Oh yeah, I completely agree. If you

want a good situation comedy type cartoon, you're

going to tune into this. And again, it is on

DVD. While I do think some of the specials and

stuff, it's good that they run them on TV. I

would actually prefer to have them on DVD so

I can watch them whenever I feel like watching

them. The same thing with the peanut stuff. Because

I mean, you know, next episode we're going to

be talking about It's a Great Pumpkin, Charlie

Brown. Those are on DVD. And I wish a lot of

the Flintstone specials would be on DVD as well.

So here's hoping for the future. we are going

to be moving on to the Jetsons. We will be right

back. Meet George Jensen! His boy, Elroy! Daughter

Judy! Jane, his wife! Once again we are back

and again for episode 21 because we're talking

about two different shows we travel back to 1962

this time with the Jetsons. The Jetsons is a

primetime animated sitcom that was produced by

Hanna Barbera. The original incarnation of the

series aired Sunday nights on ABC from September

23rd 1962 to March 3rd 1963. It was Hanna Barbera's

space -age counterpart to the Flintstones. Like

the former show, it is a half -hour family sitcom

predicting contemporary American culture and

lifestyle into another time period. While the

Flintstones live in a world with machines powered

by birds and dinosaurs, the Jetsons live in a

futuristic utopia in the year 2062 of elaborate

robotic contraptions, aliens, holograms, and

whimsical invention. The original series, comprising

24 episodes, was produced between 1962 and 1963.

was rerun on Saturday morning for decades and

its continuing popularity led to further episodes

being produced for syndication between 1985 and

1987. The series was extensively merchandised

and followed by two made -for -TV movies and

two theatrical feature films. The Japanese dub

is associated with Toei animation. That is the

history lesson. We're going to move on to the

general memories. This is probably going to be

blasphemy, but I like this show better than the

Flintstones sometimes. that I went through as

a kid and I enjoyed it more it was probably I

was burnt out on the Flintstones yeah yeah I

I completely agree but I mean again you know

we're going to be comparing and contrasting the

two shows because of obviously that crossover

the Jetsons meet the Flintstones because they

actually switch places where the Flintstones

go ahead into the Jetsons time and then the Jetsons

go back to the Stone Age I like the Jetsons more

because I'm always, I'm the type of guy that

I like future stuff. It just seems more interesting

to me while I find the Flintstones are very funny

and I find that the times are very cool for that

show for what they depict as far as using all

the animals and stuff for different machinery.

You know, it's kind of like I said before with

the Jetsons and the Flintstones only being available

on Or the Jetsons meet the Flintstones only being

available on VHS or beta Who the hell has that

crap anymore? Really? I don't know I mean, you

know, so I I was much more appealed to the Jetsons

than I was the Flintstones as much as I like

them both equally I Was drawn more to this show

than I was the Flintstones. I think I think in

terms of what was memorable for me, I remember

more of the Flintstones than I do of the Jetsons,

but the one thing I do have to credit the Jetsons

with was probably my introduction to sci -fi.

Yeah. Yeah, because that's kind of what it was,

really. It was futuristic type of sci -fi stuff.

And some of that stuff, heck. It has kind of

come to be in some form or another. Exactly.

Now when I first started doing the research for

this show, and like I said in the history lesson,

I don't ever remember the year ever being stated

in the actual show, but 2062, that's not far

away. No, where are my flying cars? Exactly.

The thing about the Jetsons is, and I think they

showed this a couple of times, I might be remembering

this incorrectly, but they always show it to

where it's basically a utopian planet to where

there's no ground. I mean it's apartments all

in the sky, it's restaurants all in the sky type

of deal. Basically take Cloud City from Empire

Strikes Back and there you go. But I believe

they showed the ground once or twice where somebody

would have fallen or or done something But it

was very rare that they actually actually show

I believe they were meant to be on planet Earth,

but I'm not really sure if that's true or not

Yeah, they talk about different solar systems,

but I don't remember them actually referencing

any planets right exactly I mean well they they

did reference some of like the dude planet when

Jane goes on a retreat and stuff like that, but

they didn't actually reference their own planet,

I don't think. And I'm pretty sure it probably

was a type of planet Earth, I just don't, I'm

just not sure. So, going into the characters

and voice actors, you had George Jetson, age

37, his loving family man who always seems to

make the wrong decision. He works full time,

15 hours a week at Spacely Sprockets. as a computer

engineer. He is married to Jane and together

they have two kids, Elroy and Judy. George is

the protagonist of the show and is suggested

throughout the show that he was Fred Flintstone

in a past life. I don't know if I'd go that far.

No, George was a little bit more well -rounded

I'd say. Yeah, he was less angry. Definitely

less angry a little more a little more involved

with his family even I'd go as far to say yeah

oh yeah exactly I mean I don't I don't remember

an episode where he wasn't trying to help Jane

do the dishes or you know even though majority

of them doing the dishes is just pressing a button

and of course one of the robots would come out

and do it for them but or helping Elroy with

his homework you know George to me always was

the good father type and I yes the difference

is you really can't compare him to Fred is because

at the time Pebbles was only a teenager I mean

yeah you can compare it eventually once you get

to some of the older shows with Pebbles and Bam

Bam but as far as the original shows the Jetsons

and the Flintstones you really can't compare

the two because George has a teenage daughter

God who wants one of those And he has Elroy who

is a young impressionable set, you know seven

or eight year old or Yeah, yeah, he's aged seven

So I really don't think you can compare him to

Fred at all While he probably does have some

of Fred's anger a little bit when he gets angry

But as I said before it's pretty much toned down

He tries to look at the the positive outcome.

He's one of those types that always wants his

butt. He's basically a skinny Homer Simpson,

is what I would refer to him as. Yeah, I can

kind of see that. I'd say George, in terms of

the family man part of it, it has one up on Homer.

But I mean like when it comes to his work type

of thing is what I was what I was going for You

know see George always struck me as kind of an

intelligent character. Whereas Fred was a little

more of a You know, a rock head. You know, he

worked in a quarry, he slung rocks around with

big dinosaurs. George is a computer engineer

and at that time, like when it originated, I

don't think that was a big position. I don't

think that was a popular position and now I think

everyone knows at least one computer engineer

or something along those lines. Jane Jetson,

age 35, is George's spouse, mother of their two

children and homemaker. Jane is obsessed with

fashion and new gadgetry and her favorite store

is Mooningdale's. She is also a dutiful wife

who always tries to make life as pleasant as

possible for her family. Outside of the home,

she is a member of the Galaxy Women Historical

Society and is a fan of Leonardo Di Venis and

Picasso Pia. Again, there's the references. Jane,

to me, always was, like it said in the description,

the dutiful wife. She, very rarely did I see

her in episodes where she was out for herself.

The only two that I can remember is the one where

she wants to get a second car and learn how to

drive. and the other one where she needs a vacation

from pushing all the buttons that she pushes

and she goes to that dude ranch like I had mentioned

previously. Outside of that, she's basically

the stay -at -home mom. Yeah. Yeah. I also, you

know what, I kind of, even now like watching

it as an adult, Jane and George seem to be the...

You know, they might have been the college sweethearts.

You know, she studied art history and he studied

technology or whatever. They kind of give off

that vibe. Yeah. You know, almost maybe, I don't

want to go into classes, but you know, a little

bit more of an educated couple. Right. And I

believe that there was an episode at one point

where, and I believe they bring this up in several

episodes, where they say that they are actually

college sweethearts. Okay, that's probably where

that came from, where I'm remembering that from.

They just kind of remind me of those couples

from around that era. They met in college, and

even though she has a degree, and it was usually

something like art history or literature, she

is the stay -at -home wife, but an educated stay

-at -home wife. Of course, then you have the

children. Judy Jetson, age 16, is the older child

in the Jetson family. She is a stereotypical

teenage girl. who was trying to include boys,

clothes, dating, going out, and revealing secrets

to her digital diary. Now, I don't ever remember

seeing the diary until the crossover. Jetsons

meet the Flintstones. I don't ever remember seeing

it in the actual cartoon episodes. I don't remember.

I remember it being there, but I don't remember

from when it might be from the crossover. Yeah.

Judy, as I said, she is the quintessential teenage

daughter who just completely blows everything

out of proportion. When Judy has a crisis, nobody

can be safe from her screams and tears and everything

else. I think they did a really good job of depicting

the 16 -year -old girl. Yeah, also kind of her

flightiness. Yeah what you know like she'd be

absolutely devastated because Some guy that she

liked wasn't into her But then she she'd meet

someone else and it's like who was I upset about

like she was very flighty in that sense Yes,

very much so Elroy Jetson is age seven is the

younger of the two children in the Jetson family

He is highly intelligent and an expert in all

space sciences Elroy attends Little Dipper School

where he studies space history, astrophysics,

and star geometry. He is a mild -mannered and

good child. I don't ever remember Elroy going

to the dark side of being that bad. Even though

he is seven years old in the show, I don't ever

remember him having a terrible two phase at at

seven. Now he does get disappointed sometimes,

but he's always normally this happy -go -lucky

seven -year -old and, you know, big into fantasy.

I remember a few episodes, what is it, Space

Cubs, which is basically the Jetsons version

of the Boy Scouts, or Space Buddies or whatever

it's called, I forget. And I really liked Elroy

I associated with him more again as we said with

the Flintstones these You know this cartoon was

you know I mainly saw it in the 80s And I thought

it was running concurrent to when I was growing

up and I identified it with Elroy more When I

was seven years old then probably any other character

obviously And he's just a cool kid kind of trouble.

It wasn't even trouble. Weren't there some issues

around when Elroy brought that little creature

home from orbiting? Yeah, that's the only time

I kind of remember him doing anything. I wouldn't

even say it was bad, just kind of a tiny bit

rebellious maybe. Yeah, he was standing up for

himself. This actually happens twice. Go ahead,

I'll come back to Rosie, but Astro, the dog,

age unknown, is the Jetson family dog. Prior

to being a Jetson, Astro was known as Tralfaz

and belonged to the fabulously rich Mr. Godrocks,

or Mr. Gotrocket. Astro is George's best friend

and is able to speak. I remember seeing this

episode where, and I remember this vividly because

I've seen it before, Astro, or Tralfaz, or whatever

you want to call him, he runs away from God Rockets.

And Elroy finds him and brings him home. And

Jane and Judy are like, oh yeah, but what is

your father going to say? And of course, at first

George says no, and Elroy's like pleading. It's

more of Elroy pleading with him and showing him

the sad face than it is really rebelling against

him. Yeah. You know, eventually Astro, you know,

He actually stands up, which is kind of weird

for a dog. Kind of like Goofy? No, Goofy is a

completely different character, even though he

is dog -like. I've never seen Goofy on all four

legs, because Goofy actually has hands. a comparison

would be either Dino or Scooby. Those comparisons

I could see, but not to Goofy. You know, of course

he stands up and puts his arm around George and

I rub you and all this stuff and I believe, I

can't be certain, but I believe Astro was a raspier

version of Scooby. Because I can hear the...

Rutrow Raggy, I can hear that in Astro, was raw,

roarge, you know, I can hear that in him. And

you know, and going into Orbity, the age is unknown,

but very young as Elroy found him as an egg.

He's a family pet who also happens to be an alien.

He's a furry animal resembling a monkey with

a built -in slinky springs for legs. Elroy found

Orbity on a field trip. to an asteroid and brought

it home. Orbit is a friendly pet, incredibly

smart, and usually in good mood. His color changes

according to how he feels. His character was

introduced in the 1980s version of the series.

And again, you know, I do remember, you know,

like you said, with, you know, Elroy bringing

him home, how the family was like, oh no, we

are, you know, we have Astro, we don't need another

pet, and of course, You know, I remember in this

instance, Elroy getting very, very upset. Not

more of like the pleading, oh please daddy, can

we keep him type deal. It was, oh come on, dad.

It was almost like Elroy grew up, even though

he is depicted as age seven throughout the entire

series. Excuse me. And of course you have Rosie,

who's age 45. Wow, a 45 year old robot. She looks

like she's 145. She's the Jetsons household robot.

She is an outdated model, but the Jetsons love

her and would never trade her for a newer model.

Rosie does all the household chores and some

of the parenting. She is a strong disciplinary

and occasionally dispenses advice to the family.

Rosie... I don't know how I felt about her at

first. I thought it was like... Oh, I remember

the episode that they actually went and got her.

George is like, oh, no, people are going to think

that we're rich now. People are going to think

that our friends are going to think that we're

better than them because we have a maid and they

don't. It was kind of a class issue, really.

Because a lot of people that have maids, especially

even nowadays, a lot of people that have maids

are rich, are of the wealthy, higher class. You

know, upper -crust, upper -class type of people.

And the Jetsons clearly aren't that, but because

apparently they've gotten so busy with Jane raising

the kids, and I believe she did go back to work

in a couple episodes. I don't remember what she

actually did, but I do remember that happening.

So, you know, they need a maid. I don't know.

And apparently they got her for free because

she is that older model and pretty much outdated

So hey, you know free stuff rocks, I guess yeah

Cosmo spacely Here we go. Mr. Mel blank age unknown

is George's boss and owner of spacely sprockets

He is a little person with black hair and bad

temper Cosmo is the antagonist in the series

Again with the mel blank thing if you look like

I I have the captain caveman thing with mel blank

saying captain caveman and if you look at if

you listen to that and you listen to Jetson you

can hear mel blank in both both instances and

There's only been a couple of times where George

and space Lee were friends. Yeah, very few occasions.

There's only been a couple of occasions where

they're, where Spacely is actually nice to George.

Spacely is basically the Mr. Burns of the Jensen's.

Yeah. Although he's not as old as Mr. Burns.

No, definitely not. And he doesn't have an assistant.

Cogswell, age unknown, is basically his big competitor.

He owns Cogswell's Cogs company and causes a

lot of trouble for Cosmo and George. I was just

going to say, every time I see Cogswell, I'm

like, Mr. Slate's moonlighting? Exactly! It was

pretty much Mr. Slate, except he was older and

fatter. Because Mr. Slate in the Flintstones...

He wasn't an old man, but I would say Mr. Slade

is around maybe 50. But he's a lot skinnier.

Whereas Cogswell is pretty much large and in

charge for the most part. He's got that gut that

he will throw around when he needs to. I always

liked... How the two companies are spying on

each other trying to figure out what you each

of them are working on? Considering one makes

sprockets in the other one makes cogs. However

Sometimes in some episodes one would need a cog

or one would need a sprocket and they would show

how Like say cogs. Well, he's gonna try to get

in and steal The sprocket that he needs and and

you know, of course space Lee will send George

to steal a couple of cogs I always thought that

was a cool dynamic. The corporate espionage.

Yeah, pretty much. Rudy is George's work computer.

His name is an acronym for Referential Universal

Digital Indexer. He has a human personality and

is a member of the society preventing cruelty

to humans. I remember Rudy, but he didn't have

a whole lot of plot. to immediately have a lot

of depth to him until you've got to the jetsons

meet the flintstones because part of that film

part of that story is rudy has as a new girlfriend

in cogswell's computer yes leaking secrets to

cogswell about spaceless rockets That's when

he really developed character for me. Normally

in the regular cartoon version of the Jetsons,

he is basically there to listen to George's problems

and give some advice, but he's very rarely seen.

I don't remember him very well. Yeah, I think

he may have said a word here or there, but he

isn't, I'd say, a character. a character that's

important to the storyline until the Jetsons

meet the Flintstones. Then finally for these

characters you have Henry Orbit, age unknown

as the Jetsons' apartment's repairman. He is

always helpful and always in a good mood. His

robot Mac has a crush on Rosie. And yeah, Rosie

and Mac, I don't know. Mac doesn't speak. I mean,

Mac is just nothing but toots and whistles. And

he's basically a filing cabinet. As far as the

voice actors, you had George O 'Hanlon who played

George Jetson. After O 'Hanlon's death, Jeff

Byrd took over. You had Penny Singleton as Jane

Jetson, Dawes Butler as Elroy. After Butler's

death, Patrick Zimmerman took over. Judy Jetson

played by Janet Waldo She is played by Tiffany

in the Jetsons movie. So that's why people may

or Jetson's dumb movie That's why people may

see a voice difference. It was more than one

actor Astor the dog Rudy and Uniblab and Mac

were all done by domestic and again, that's why

That's why I kept putting the fact that Astro

and Scooby are the same. It's because obviously

they're not by the same person. Which is the

great Don Messick. You had Rosie, and Mrs. Spacely

was Jean Vanderpeel, or Pile, or however you

say it. So all they did was roboticize Wilma's

voice for Rosie? That's pretty much what it sounded

like to me all the time. Wow, I never knew that.

And Mrs. Spacely sounded a lot like Wilma's mother.

Mr. Spacely was played by Mel Blanc. After Blanc's

death, Jeff Bergman took over. Cogswell was done

by Dawes Butler. Also, Henry Orbit was done by

Dawes Butler. Howard Morris, in a few original

episodes, played him. And Orbitty was done by

Frank Welker. Which, again, it's not really a

running gag on Tooncast, but it's just amazing

to us every time we see Welker's name because

you're so... I mean, his... I'm sorry, I would

hate to be a casting director and have to look

at his resume. Seriously. Because, I mean, you

just hear the name, you're hired. will use you

as an animal or something I mean you don't even

have to look at the guy's resume but if somebody

were to actually look at his physical resume

of every role he has ever done in his entire

career holy crap it would span at least 400 pages

probably just for the credits not even for the

you know what he could bring to a role but just

crediting him with everything that he has done

holy crap Minor repeating characters are Montague

Jetson, the kindly but eccentric grandfather

of George Jetson, played by Howard Morris. After

Morris' death, Tom Kenny took over that role,

and Arthur Spacely, Mr. Spacely's son, played

by Dick Beals. I like the episode with Montague.

I don't know if you've ever seen it, but he comes

to visit the Jetsons, and he's basically your

typical Grandfather, you know old timey type

thing where he's like singing these old tunes

and basically doing whatever he wants to do as

far as you know speeding and he talks like you

know, he He gets pulled over by the cops. Oh,

I'm just on the way to see my grandson Sonny

and you know that that type of talk and it was

just a funny funny episode because he I believe

in the episode he believes he is dying and he

wants to do all this like crazy stuff before

he he actually passes away even though he's not

dying uh... so who is your favorite character

out of the show you know i've never really thought

about before really you know i i probably i like

jane but if i had to pick a favorite it'd have

to be elroy yeah yeah elroy was probably my favorite

judy was just a little too girly and flighty

for my liking yeah Judy had a tendency to annoy

me occasionally Judy had a tendency to annoy

everybody occasionally yeah I'd have to say Elroy

he was just kind of he was a voice of reason

he was a he was just the smart kid he was constantly

you know trying to invent something or showing

off something well not even showing off but Showing

what he's learned and I just I really I found

it easy to relate to him You know as someone

in school who was a little bit of an overachiever.

I Yeah, I definitely have to say it was Elroy

I Wonder what it would ever be like if Elroy

and Bart joined up as a team the overachiever

and the underachiever. Oh my god For me Sometimes

I don't like him I don't like him when he's pretty

much attached at George's hip, but Rastro was

one of my really favorites. I really liked seeing

a lot of the Astro episodes, especially when,

as I mentioned before, in the episode where Elroy

finds him, that is also an episode where a burglar

is attempting to break into the Jetson home and

Astro wakes up and the burglar and George bump

into each other and the mask is on. George instead

of the actual burglar so astro goes after him

not realizing it And I you know I I think astro

was astro and orbiting were the comedy relief

for this show They were the ones that I always

laughed at the most As long as you know along

with L Roy and some of the spacely stuff But

if I had to pick an overall favorite it would

have to be astro So moving on to the behind -the

-scenes segment here, the differences between

this 1960s version and the 1980s version, besides

the increased presence of Rosie and the addition

of Orbity, further differences between the 60s

version and the 80s version include the following.

Although the 1960s episodes were retrofitted

with the title cards as was standard for 1980s

era Hanna -Barbera cartoons, As both the 60s

and 80s episodes were syndicated in the 1980s

as a complete package, the original 1960s episodes

are distinguished by 1960s style, animation,

music, and references similar to the Flintstones,

and other Hannah Barbera shows of that period.

The cast members have slightly softer vocal tones

in their 1960s era performances Since they were

about 20 years younger when originally working

on the series Whereas the 1960s stories were

basically 1950 sitcom plots the futuristic setting

the 1980s stories delved into fantastic sci -fi

cartoon territory Which I think you know that's

you know of course you're gonna have differences.

You know the first running of this show was in

the 60s and the second, you know, when it came

back it was in the 80s, and it's two completely

different decades. As far as the time period,

the Jetsons was originally supposed to take place

in the year 2062. In episode 107, The Flying

Suit, H .G. Cogswell announces his flying suit

to the newest wonder of the 21st century, supporting

this previously stated time period. Which, again,

I remember that episode and I remember them saying,

you know, the wonder of the 21st century, but

it was never really said ever in the cartoon

what actual year it was, I don't think. Yeah,

I don't remember ever seeing an actual date.

As far as the directors and writers, it was directed

by both Hannah Ann Barbera, Arthur Davis, Oscar

Dufault. Some of the writers, normally when we

go over some of this stuff, I will recognize

some of these people, but because the show is

so old, I don't recognize any of them. So we're

going to move on to the actual show. George Jetson

works three hours a day and three days a week

for his short tyrannical boss named Mr. Cosmo

Spacely, owner of the company Spacely Space Brockets.

As found in Season 2, Episode 23, A Jetson Christmas

Carol, George Jetson and Cosmo Spacely have been

friends since their childhood. Typical episodes

involve Spacely firing, rehiring, promoting and

demoting Jetson. Spacely has a competitor, H

.G. Cogswell, owner of the rival company Cogswell

Cogs. The Jetson family live in a sky -pad apartment

in Orbit City where all homes and businesses

are raised high above the ground. unadjustable

columns and style reflective of the architecture

of Seattle's Space Needle or the distinct theme

building of the Los Angeles International Airport.

George commutes to work in an aero car that resembles

a flying saucer with transparent bubble top.

Daily life is characterized as being comically

leisurely because of the incredible sophistication

and number of labor -saving devices which occasionally

break down in humorous results. George's workday

consists of pressing a single computer button.

Despite this, characters often complain of exhausting

hard labor and difficulties of loading with the

remaining inconveniences. Okay, unfortunately,

now that I've read that, I can see us in a future

like that where we're all lazy slobs. Yeah, and

I think there was a recent animated movie where

they did depict that. Wally oh well never saw

it probably oh I'm sorry if a movie has it if

an entire movie has the main character not being

able to talk it's not my thing it's fantastic

I had the same doubts going in hands down one

of the best movies ever yeah Other Jetson family

members include Jane Jetson, the wife and homemaker,

teenage daughter Judy, and genius preteen son

Elroy. Housekeeping seen to be seen to be by

a robot made Rosie. She only appears in two episodes

of the original 1960s show excluding her appearance

in the closing credits and makes many appearances

in the 80s show. Family dog Astro can mumble

and say his words beginning with R's. Astro catchphrases

are ROTRO and Now a mem an informal conversation

by many right roars and rats all right roars

Later Hannah Barbera cartoon dogs including scooby

-doo and mutley would use speech as well voice

actor Don Messick played all three Wow Don was

mutley. Holy crap. I love mutley I don't know

mutley. You don't know mutley from dastardly

and mutley No, are you serious? I have never

heard of it. He basically mumbles things like

Rastardly and all this stuff. Have you ever seen

the Wacky Races? No. You've led a sheltered life.

Go look up Mutley on wiki or go look up Wacky

Races and you'll come to know Mutley. Mutley

is very very funny. He is the same type of Same

archetype character of Astro and Scooby, except

he's with a character known as Dick Dastardly.

Yeah, I guess they never showed that here. Huh,

I learn something new every day. Sure do. In

the first episode of the 1980s show, the alien

named Orbity joined the family after Elroy discovered

him on a field trip to Asteroid. Orbity speaks

in his own gargled dialect and has quail springs

for legs. He changes colors according to his

mood. These episodes for this show, again, I

always thought it was a futuristic version of

the Honeymooners, like what would they be in

future times, kind of like what Flintstones was,

was what would they be in Bedrock times, even

though it isn't directly linked to the Honeymooners

like the Flintstones are, but it was more of

an updating. I really don't see any other family

to be like any other live -action TV family to

be depicted here uh... i guess you could try

to say george jetson is archie bunker but it

really doesn't work as well as fred flintstone

is archie and i really see no i just want to

make sure Probably figure out like say an early

to mid 80s sitcom that would remind me of it,

but nothing that's really popping out I'd say

that that family was a little more like the late

70s early 80s sitcom families than the 60s sitcom

families Yeah I don't either I can kind of see

Jane as Edith from all in the family But Jane

does have her moments where she will rebel, like

that episode I mentioned earlier, with her wanting

to drive again and getting a new car. co -founder

Steve was messaging me on Skype. I'm like, why

am I getting a notification room Skype on in

the middle of our recording when it says on the

message, no messages because I'm recording. Overall,

I really did like a lot of these episodes. I

don't remember a lot of them. I remember like

some of the astro -centric ones. The outro for

this show was very, very interesting. Where you

have Astro and George on the automatic dog walker

and it's be in I believe I believe that this

is in the 80s version is what I remember orbiting

jumps on it or Or the cat which they never actually

showed the cat in the actual show. They only

showed him on The actual outro where he jumps

on the dog walker and Astro starts chasing him

Yeah, and the dog walker speeds up and then Astro

and the cat jump off and start watching George

going I'm pretty much in the same boat. There

aren't too many specific episodes that I could

quote or that I remember vividly. The one that

I would have to say is the Gleeplorp song with

Judy and what's her boyfriend's name in that

one. Yeah, I forget. I'm trying to see here,

because I've got it in the... David Sparrow,

our starter, Jerry Jets, and once a day with

Rockstar provided this... It doesn't say the

name, because the music segment is up next, and

I'm looking here in the music information, it

doesn't say the name of the Rockstar. It's probably

like... I don't know, it's some futuristic take

on some celebrity's name. But the name of the

song is Eep Orp. Eeth -op -ork -ah -ah, which

translates to Means I Love You. Written by Hoyt

Curtin and William Hanna and Joseph Barbera,

the episode was a surrealistic Busby -Berkeleyan

space affair which prefigured conceptual MTV

videos by decades. And that was the episode was

a date with Jet Screamer, that's what his name

was. Jet Screamer, that's it. That's what it

was. But yeah, going back to the music part here,

the theme song for this, along with the visuals,

the same as the Flintstones. You can hear the

theme song to this show, but you need to be able

to watch the opening credits to get the jokes.

Because it's like meet George Jetson his boy

Elroy when it gets to his boy Elroy They're all

in the car and he you know encapsulates Elroy

in this like mini car and he floats down to school

Same thing with daughter Judy when it gets to

Jane his wife He hands her a bill now it never

actually shows what dollar amount the bill is

but he hands her a single bill And he's got his

wallet in the other hand of course She takes

the wallets Yeah, which kind of sucks and then

at the end when he gets to when he gets to his

own job His car folds up into his briefcase Which

I thought that was kind of kind of silly, but

it was kind of cool Yeah, I guess parking isn't

an issue. No only problem You'd have is what

if your briefcase opened in the middle of work.

You'd have your car right in the middle of your

workplace Yeah a cover of Eep Op Ork Ah Ah Performed

by the Violent Femmes is included on the 1995

tribute album, Saturday Morning Cartoon's Greatest

Hits, produced by Ralph Stahl for MCA Records.

Awesome road trip music, let me tell you. You

just pop that on on a road trip and before you

know it, an hour has flown by. I get into TV

themes and stuff like that, like the actual original

themes from shows, but I haven't really gotten

into a lot of the covers. So I'm going to have

to actually look into that. Going... Well, what

did you think of the music for this show? I thought

it was... I mean... For the most part, it didn't

stand out. Again, like with the Flintstones,

the ones that really stood out was when there

was an episode that centered around a character

that was a musician or a band. The opening sequence,

the opening song, I mean, it was very simple

and effective, but... It's not one, like I don't

find myself humming it. Whereas randomly I'll

start humming the Flintstones tune. I didn't

find it as catchy. There was a lot more of a

score I found with the Jetsons. Like a little

more music than the Flintstones in terms of like

background music. But I don't know, maybe I just

wasn't paying as much attention with the Flintstones.

Well, see with the Jetsons, now that you say

you really can't hum it, I actually just started

like... I just started humming it in my head,

I'm like, oh wow. You see, I can... I like both

themes, but I like them both for different reasons.

Obviously, the Flintstones is more characteristic

for those characters. I like them for the individual

characteristics, that they basically flat out

tell you the story of the cartoon before you

actually watch an episode. You know, the main

basis. Like, you know, me, George Jetson, here's

his... daughter, here's his son, and here's his

wife. So you're basically subjected to the fact

that, hey, these are the four main characters

that you're going to see in this show, which

I thought was really, really cool. And I do agree

with you. The music in the Jetsons was significantly

more pronounced than it was in the Flintstones.

And I think the thing with that is that because

the Flintstones never made new episodes in the

80s. They ran the six seasons and then they ran

all the specials and the movies and you know

whatever else. The Jetsons ran brand new syndicated

episodes in the 80s and that's why I always came

to know this show in the 80s because it was made

when I was growing up even though the original

two seasons or one season or whatever it was

was made in the 60s. Yeah. So I think that's

what brings it more for me, you know, more for

updating. Going into the legacy segment here,

I looked and looked and looked for the IGN thing.

I couldn't find it. I don't know. I don't know.

It wasn't listed in the wiki. I don't know why

it wouldn't be. Maybe they didn't rate the Jetsons,

which I think if they didn't is a very blasphemous

thing there. It's funny. We're in the break before

we started recording the Jetsons part here. She

actually looked up the IGN list and yeah, I I

I went completely home red dull because the Simpsons

is the number one on the IGN top 100 animated

shows I'm wondering if the entire staff up box

picked the top ten I don't want to know because

Some of the stuff that's on there, I'm like,

really? Top 10? I don't think so. Yeah, I don't

want to know. As far as the media for the Jetsons

for television specials, you have the A Yabba

Dabba Doo Celebration 50 Years of Hannah Barbera

in 1989. Of course, you have the Jetsons Meet

the Flintstones and Rockin' with Judy Jetson,

where the television films... Theatrical releases

are the Jetsons the movie in 1990 and the Jetsons

coming in 2012. The live -action future film.

In May 2007 director Robert Rodriguez entered

talks with Universal Studios and Warner Brothers

to film a live -action film adaptation of the

Jetsons for potential 2009 theatrical release.

He also met with Universal Studios to direct

a film adaptation of The Land of the Lost. Rodriguez

was uncertain which project he would pursue next,

though his latest script draft for The Jetsons

by a sign writer, Adam Goldberg, was further

along and developed. Denise DeNova and Donald

DeLine have signed on to produce the film with

Hanna -Barbera Productions, financing it. It

is slated for June 1st, 2012 release into theaters

from Warner Bros. Pictures, Universal Pictures,

Troublemaker Studios, and Hanna -Barbera Productions.

any kind of film you have like one or two production

companies attached to it like you know Warner

Brothers would be the distributor or you know

Universal would be you know, but four different

Wow Yeah, how expensive and bloated is this gonna

be? I honestly don't know and just doing this

research is the first I've ever heard of this

even coming to light I had no clue Robert Rodriguez

was even involved in any of that. I had no clue

about it even being in the works as far as a

live -action film because honestly, if you look

at the cartoon, okay, people can build sets,

I get that. But I mean, how realistic is it gonna

be? Yeah. Look at the Flintstones movie, the

original 1994 one. with John Goodman yeah that

is that's a good live -action representation

of bedrock it just is because obviously it's

it's stone age it's already happened but how

are you gonna build a futuristic utopia especially

when you're so close to the supposed time yeah

that this is taking place in and none of this

is actually happening yeah or very few things

are happening We are okay if this does come to

light and it is released in 2012 We will be 50

years away from the actual date of this of the

of when the cartoon takes place in 2062 Wow,

so yeah it that that time period of when this

show existed is only 50 You know 50 51 52 years

away Wow, that's putting it into perspective

people And that's a little scary actually Further

appearances you had the fantastic world of Hannah

Barbera ride Elroy Jetson is kidnapped by dick

dastardly and mutley and it is up to ride guests

to save him It's space stars astro appeared in

the segment astro in the space months I remember

that I don't know if you remember astro in the

space months, but No, I don't think I've ever

seen that It's basically take astro and put him

with a bunch of other humans that are not the

Jetsons You had this character named space ace.

It's basically space ghosts without the ego Okay,

I kind of remember space ace though. Yeah Wow

Astro was in Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law.

Holy crap. Oh yeah, oh my god. Love Harvey Birdman.

It's so twisted. Yeah, some characters appeared

in commercials for electrosol and Tums in the

90s, but... Yeah, I totally remember Jane Jetson

in the electrosol commercials, and every time

I use my dishwasher I think of her. At least

you have a dishwasher. In the 1990s, George,

Jane, and Astro appeared in the Christmas Radio

Shack commercials. Judy, Elroy, and Rosie were

mentioned. The Jetsons have appeared twice in

Family Guy in the episodes Brian and Love and

Meet the Quagmires. Rosie appears in the Futurama

movie Bender's Game. She has been sent to the

HAL Institute for criminally insane robots after

murdering Elroy and Astro. I don't think I ever

want to see that episode of Futurama. I think

that's the only episode of Futurama I've ever

seen. There is? And I think that caught my attention.

I was flipping channels and I'm like, what's

Rosie doing on Futurama? Wow. That's crazy. The

Jetsons family were seen in a Cartoon Network

wrap in 1995. The Jetson characters were main

characters in the skit done by robot chicken

where George was murdered. Why are people always

trying to kill Jetsons characters? There were

several comics there were a lot of games just

like the Flintstones Video games there was Jetsons

way with words for Intellivision. Holy crap Intellivision.

I haven't heard of that in years The Jetsons

by George in trouble again for DOS Jetsons Cogswell's

caper for Nintendo Entertainment System Robot

Panic for Game Boy, Jetson's Invasion of the

Planet Pirates for Super Nintendo, the Jetson's

The Computer Game, the Jetson's Mealtime Malfunction

for Apple, Space Race, which does not have a

system next to it, and Flintstone's Jetson's

Time Warp for the CD -i. Now, maybe that's a

take -off of the Jetson's Me to Flintstone, maybe

that's a video game. based off of the Jetsons

Meet the Flintstones film. I don't know. I don't

remember any of those games. I don't either.

As far as DVD releases for the Hanna -Berbera

Classic Collection, Warner Home Video released

Season 1 of The Jetsons on DVD in Region 1 on

May 11, 2004, and also released it on Region

4 in 2006. Season 2 Volume 1 was finally released

almost 5 years since Season 1 on June 2nd, 2009

in Region 1. No word yet on upcoming DVD set

releases of the remainder of the second season

and the third and final season. Which, that stinks.

Yeah, and just to fill you in, Jetson's rated

46 on the IGN list. As we've said before, fuck

you IGN. The Jetsons Today live -action film

adaptation produced by Denise Genova alongside

Donald the Line with Hanna -Barbera Productions,

Universe Studios and Warner Brothers is set for

2012, which we had already said. Boomerang is

currently airing only the 1960s episodes regularly,

while some of the 1980s episodes are available

for viewing on into TV. However, Boomerang does

air the 1980s episodes occasionally in Boomer

royalty marathons. Also, the first two seasons

of the Jetsons are available to download on Apple's

iTunes Store and the Xbox Live Marketplace. Forbes

magazine valued Spacely Sprockets at 1 .3 billion

on their 25 largest fictional companies list.

Now that's a cool list. I find that funny. I

find that very funny oh yeah and it is listed

here it's listed in the uh... today's section

about the idea in thing or crap so i guess i

did find that i just didn't put it in the right

place uh... the music video for kanya west song

heartless features judy elroy astro george jane

rosie done as portraits all that kanya there

i wasn't gonna bring that up i i just don't like

how how some Like, okay, when I think of Jetsons,

I think of rock and roll. I think of, obviously,

because it was made in the 60s originally, I

think of the rock and roll era. I don't think

of rap music. No, not at all. And I'm sorry,

some of these rap artists need to stop. That's

like them, that's like people that are trying

to remake Short Circuit. Leave 80s stuff alone,

you... Johnny f***ing Ivies, leave him alone,

he doesn't want to die again. I saw both of those

in the theater. Oh wow. What was his assistant?

I don't think Steve Guttenberg came back for

the second film, Benjamin something or other.

No, it was, what's his name, Michelle Pfeiffer's

ex -husband. The Jetsons are currently being

screened on the Australian TV channel Go. I guess

we can do some final thoughts on this show I

Really as I said before I really enjoyed it I

really like a lot of a lot of the episodes that

I do remember in the ones You know what because

and I don't have cable right now It's just not

something I can afford but when I could afford

it and I was watching these on boomerang I can

actually sit down and watch an episode of the

Jetsons or the Flintstones without actually getting

up and saying, I'll watch it later, I'll DVR

it. You know, these shows aren't something that

they catch your eye no matter what episode it

is. Yeah. So what are your final thoughts? Well,

it was, like I mentioned before, it was always

a show I enjoyed and when I do come across it,

I still will watch it. It probably isn't as deeply

connected to my childhood as the Flintstones

were, but it's still a really good show, even

to watch it to this day. Like I said, it was

my kind of introduction to sci -fi, and if it

wasn't for liking the Jetsons, I probably wouldn't

have watched three -quarters of the TV I watch

now. And it had some pretty neat characters and

some neat little stories. And it was likable.

All of them were fairly likable, whereas you

had more of a love -hate relationship with the

Flintstones with certain characters. This one,

you know, there were always fairly likable characters.

Oh, yeah, very, very much so. I completely agree.

So before we go into the closing, I want to mention,

as we've mentioned throughout this episode, the

epic the Jetsons meet the Flintstones now when

people in the early nineties when I was like

10 or 11 my mom thought I was crazy saying that

I want the Jetsons meet the Flintstones I want

to watch it again I want a VHS or whatever that

never happened they didn't cross that over and

I distinctly remember seeing a VHS copy of it

at some place I was visiting and I actually watched

it. If I had this on DVD, my DVD player would

probably break for as much time as I would watch

it in a row because I just love this film so

much. The basic plot summary for it is Elroy

creates a time machine which accidentally results

in the Jetsons being sent to prehistoric times.

Now, when he originally created the time machine,

he wanted them to go to The future so beyond

their years Yeah, but instead they got sent back

to the past And of course they meet up with the

Flintstones and the Flintstones It it myriads

the the two cartoons together very well because

it opens with George not wanting to get up and

then the automatic thing kicks him into the cold

shower then it goes to the Flintstones time same

thing where Fred, as I said before in the episode

today, where Fred bonks the bird alarm clock,

gets up and the elephant's out of cold water,

so it's showing the similarities between the

two times before these characters ever meet.

And if they do meet, they're like, yabba dabba

friend, ooba dooba friend, and they finally,

you know, they finally come together and they

finally figure all this out. And of course, Fred

being the, you know, Jackie Gleason type character,

wants to figure out a way to be able to use George's

futuristic bag in the annual picnic to beat tar

pits for Slate Gravel Company. It's just overall

a really, really great film. And later, the Flintstones

actually get switched. The Jetsons get left behind

in prehistoric times, and the Flintstones go

ahead to the future. Fred working for Spacely

and Barney working for Cogswell. So I think it

showed a very good amount of Fred and Barney

being that hate part of their relationship, of

their friendship. Because, you know, Spacely

and Cogswell don't get along and of course if

they're going to have alternate competitors.

And this is the cartoon where I believe Centro

was first introduced, Cogswell's dog. I thought

he was a very funny character. Yeah, that's one

of the things that really stood out in Jetsons

Meet the Flintstones for me. That and Judy ends

up with like another musician? Yeah. What is

it with Judy and musicians? What is it with women

and musicians in general? Well... Seriously,

honestly, because it's the same thing. The talented

bad boy, you know, the tortured artist. Yeah.

Yeah, don't get as much tortured as you get off

with Ozzy Osbourne, but he's married This this

episode has had tons of crazy references What

was I gonna say What I liked with this one was

the pairing between Astro and Dino That was something

that you were never gonna see before or or ever

again And they pretty much have a rivalry with

each other throughout the entire episode until

it gets to the point where they find out that

Centro was the one that stole the secrets, not

George. And they both go after Centro and they

end up destroying him. As I said before, this

is where the computer Rudy really becomes a character.

for the Jetsons side of the cartoon because obviously

he's in love with Cogswell's computer and you

know George finds out that he's the leak and

how he finds out is Rudy starts crying okay I'm

sorry that's good excuse me that's good characterization

but if a computer cries and it gets wet hello

it's gonna malfunction That's over. Wow. It has

been so long since I... I haven't even seen it

in the TV listings here, and I don't own it on

VHS. If it does come out on DVD in the near future,

I'm going to pick up and re -watch it. The picnic

was always kind of fun for me because I remember

going to picnics like that and I'm like, oh,

that totally would have come in here. I think

I really would have liked to have seen, you know,

a big epic shopping sequence with the ladies.

That would have really made it for me. You mean

Betty Wilma and Jane all three of them? Oh yeah.

That would have been fun. That's just the girly

girl in me coming out for a brief moment. Yeah,

I've logged into my Facebook because I actually

wrote on TV shows on DVDs wall on there because

I wanted to see... I had wrote on their wall

asking them about it and... Dave Lambert's response

is that you can stop your scouring, Mike. It's

not available on DVD so far. Will it ever be?

No official word from Warner yet. I don't know

one way or the other. Is it on their radar for

DVD release? I'm honestly not sure. On another

hand, I can say at least that I know that the

studio does know it exists. I have figured out

that much. What that means though is anybody's

guess. No idea here about the context, just that

they have entirely that they haven't entirely

forgotten about it or anything. Maybe that means

something, but who knows. Don't get your hopes

up yet. Another thought with Yogi's First Christmas

getting released soon via the Warner Archives'

MOD mod program. Maybe other animation gems like

this one could see the light of day via that

route. And I wrote back to them on that, you

know, I commented back on my wall post and I

said, well, I don't understand why it couldn't...

If not DVD, what about digital download? Like

Tunes or something like that. Because I don't

care as long as it's in some form or another

where I could actually watch it today, whether

it's digital download, whether it's a DVD, something

that isn't something that requires me to go out

and buy a, I don't know, 25, 30 year old piece

of machinery. Yeah. I mean, because really, as

I said in the beginning of this episode, who

actually has VCRs? Who even sells VCRs anymore?

Now it's all DVD players, Blu -ray players, PS3s,

you know, digital media like, you know, Kindle

for books from Amazon, MP3 players that play

video. It's very rare. I capped one VCR. I don't

have it hooked up, but I still have one for when

I get the urge to watch something that isn't

on DVD. Except I have to plug it up to my old

TV. It won't work with my new TV. Yeah, so it's

the little 20 -inch screen to watch it. I really,

really enjoyed this film. This is... I believe

between this and Transformers the movie is something

that I can watch over and over and over again,

just because it is that good. It just is. I mean,

that's really all I can say. It is that good.

And of course, the cast is pretty much the same

as the original show. You have John Bauman as

Iggy, who is the rock star that Judy fell in

love with. Mel Blank as Barney Rubble, Dino,

and Mr. Spacely. Dawes Butler as Elroy and Cogswell.

Hamilton Camp as Turk Tarpett. Henry Corden as

Fred Flintstone. Julie McWhorter as Betty Rubble,

Jet Rivers. There's a celebrity connection, Joan

Rivers, Jet Rivers, investor, panelist, and harem

girl. Don Messick is Astro Rudy Mack, announcer,

and store manager, and robot voice. George O

'Hanlon is George Jetson, Penny Singleton is

Jane. As far as the pop culture reference here

the movie was referenced in the Simpsons episode

a star is burns Bart Simpson is watching the

movie the Flintstones meet the Jetsons after

he criticizes the cheap crossover Jay Sherman

the main character of the animated TV show the

critic introduces himself to Bart Which as we

all know you know Yeah, the Simpsons is nothing

but cheesy stuff sometimes The film has been

released on VHS three times, first by Good Times,

then by Kid Classics, using the same cassette

as the previous release, and most recently by

Warner Home Video on July 3rd, 2001. Okay, if

it's been released on VHS three different times,

even though the second release was the same cassette

as the first one, again I ask. Why no DVD? You

know one thing I had no clue, and I can't remember

the character name, but when you were reading

off the credits, the musician boyfriend, you

said John Bauman, and I had to look it up. That's

Bowser from Sha Na Na. Yeah, well it says on

here John Bowser Bauman. Yeah, that's Bowser

from Sha Na Na, which is another show I watched

as a kid. Yes, and one thing that really also

has been a running gag on on tooncast is how

many times we can cover a show that because tooncast

is all about covering shows that we that that

we grew up watching and In a majority of our

shows that we grew up watching Andrea Romano

has been the casting or voice director. And she

was the voice director for this crossover film.

Wow. So yeah. So I think we're going to do some

final thoughts on the entire franchise of both

of them. And then we'll go into the official

closing. So what are your final thoughts? Well.

Thank you so much for the trip down memory lane.

There were some things that I had completely

forgotten about. Just talking about this all,

I really want to go out there and track these

down and watch them all again. That happens every

time I do an episode of this show. Because when

we first started, our first episode was the Nintendo

cartoons, Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario World

Captain and stuff like that. The second episode

was Animaniacs, third episode was Tiny Toons,

fourth was Voltron, Voltron and the Thundercats.

All these 80s cartoons that I grew up with, every

time that I would finish recording an episode

or when it would, because we release them every

Wednesday. Every time I finished with that I

would immediately go to eBay and look for the

toys I wouldn't actually buy them, but I would

just look to see if they were there Amazing to

me what kind of merchandise that I've found for

some of the some of the topics that we covered

I would say if you want to get the Flintstones

obviously the Jetsons doesn't have a full release

But if you want to get the Flintstones on DVD

get the complete series yes I know it's a lot

of money but if you look at it logistically from

a money standpoint the complete series is all

six seasons combined all six seasons are separately

released if you add all that money up of buying

each individual season you're going to come up

with the same amount as you would pay for the

complete series set yeah So I am a big fan of

waiting for complete series sets on DVD, then

going out and buying the individual sets, unless

the individual sets are the only thing that is

available. So this is the time to plug anything.

If you have anything you want to plug, now's

the time. Well, just to check out thetelevixen

.com, like I mentioned, going to be launching

a new podcast over the next week and be getting

some really cool video footage up that I filmed

over the summer at a couple of the cons I went

to, in addition to your regular TV coverage.

Yay, cool. You need to start getting into NDIS.

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