X-Men the Animated Series Season 2

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of Tooncast Beyond, Eduardo came on and we talked

about X -Men 92, because you have to really justify

it with the 92, because some people are like,

or you could justify it with X -Men the animated

series, yada yada yada, but whatever. We talked

X -Men 92 Season 1, we are finally back at it

over the next... Four weeks over the next month

You're gonna get x -men cartoons from us here

at to cast me on because we're gonna talk about

season 2 3 4 and 5 over the next month or so

and Yeah, so it's been a while. What the hell

have you been up to? Well, um Well, let's see.

I got married. Yeah, we knew that from last time.

So Yeah, I'm I'm like, yeah, I actually you know,

I'm actually married happily wed. Sorry single

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Trish got to you got to me first. He already

put a ring on it And then plus I am co -host

and Co -producer of a live radio show called

let keeping it real cool. Yeah, that's every

that's every every Saturday either myself or

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live on uh on radio and uh you know talking various

geek topics haven't spoken x -men x -men though

that's that's that's just for you that said though

i mean if he's if he's listening i do want to

give a shout out to larry houston you're you're

an awesome guy man cool i i ended up it was because

of keeping it reals that i ended up meeting larry

we we talked about gi joe the movie with uh buzz

dixon and It was, wow, that was one of the most

fun times I ever had. Yeah, Buzz is awesome.

I haven't talked to him yet, but I know Buzz

is simply amazing. Alright, we are here to talk,

like I said, X -Men 92 Season 2. We're gonna

get to whomever is giving us just the facts after

this. Hey gang, it's Optimus Solo and I'm here

to give you just the facts on X -Men The Animated

Series. X -Men The Animated Series is an American

animated television series which debuted in 1992

and ran to 1997, lasting five seasons and airing

76 episodes. It aired on the Fox network as part

of its Fox Kids Saturday morning lineup. This

was Marvel Comics' second attempt at an animated

X -Men TV series, following the pilot X -Men

Pride of the X -Men, which was not picked up.

Saban Entertainment was contracted to produce

the show and hired a small studio, Graz Entertainment,

to produce the episodes as it did not have the

sufficient staff at the time to handle production

in -house. Graz employed the creative staff,

wrote and designed each episode, and even drew

the storyboards. The voice work was done using

Canadian studios, and the animation was done

by the South Korean studio, Acom. The plot was

loosely adapted from famous storylines and events

in the X -Men comics, such as the Dark Phoenix

Saga, Days of Future Past, the Phalanx Covenant,

and the Legacy Virus. The show features a team

lineup similar to that of the early 1990s X -Men

comic books. The lineup largely resembles that

of Cyclops' Blue Team, established in the early

issues of the second X -Men comic series. The

series' first 13 episodes were notable for being

possibly the first time ever that an American

animated series had a full season of episodes

flow one into the next, i .e. a continuity -based

show, something the series' producers fought

heavily for. However, starting with Season 3,

most episodes were shown in random order. Each

episode was assigned two different numbers internally.

One is for script order, which indicates the

number assigned by the production company. The

other is the production order, which are the

official episode numbers assigned by Fox Children's

Network indicating the order that they actually

received the episodes from the production company.

These both vary from the order in which the series

actually aired, especially after season 3. So

we have three different sets of orders in which

these episodes could be organized. According

to series writer Stephen Melching, the script

order is the best guide in terms of overall series

continuity, as this is how the stories were originally

envisioned to flow together. The X -Men animated

show was the longest running Marvel Comics animated

series for 18 years. It lasted six years during

its five -season run, which was the record until

it was eventually beaten by the Ultimate Spider

-Man when its 77th episode aired on October 17,

2015. So from 96 all the way until 2015, X -Men

was the longest -running Marvel Comics animated

series. The series, though, was cancelled after

the episode graduation day, which aired on September

20, 1997. And now for some tune trivia. Morph

was intended to be a throwaway character for

the writers to kill to sell the stark nature

of the series. Changeling, i .e. Morph, was chosen

because of his past ties to the X -Men as well

as his long absence from the comics. His codename

had to be changed from Changeling to Morph, as

DC Comics had trademarked the Changeling name

for the character, who was also known as Beast

Boy. Morph's death was intended to be permanent,

but he gained unexpected popularity and was brought

back. Now today's episode specifically focuses

on Season 2. Season 2 was 13 episodes long and

lasted from October 23, 1993 until February 19,

1994. The second season sees Cyclops and Gene

get married and become the targets of Mr. Sinister,

who hopes to use the genetically perfect combination

of their DNA to create an army of obedient mutants.

Morph returns, having been rescued by Sinister

and brainwashed into forcing the X -Men apart.

The season also features the growing rift between

humans and mutants, spearheaded by the Friends

of Humanity, an anti -mutant group who leads

the persecution of all mutants. Apocalypse also

returns, developing a deadly plague to be blamed

on mutants, fueling the hatred for mutants. The

second season also saw a parallel narrative featuring

Magneto and Professor X lost in the Savage Land,

which is interwoven throughout the season. Many

of the stories dealt with the X -Men dealing

with the Professor's absence, as well as increasing

the backstory of many of the X -Men, particularly

Rogue and Wolverine. As a number of two -parters

during the season, we have the Fugitive's two

-parter, and then it obviously begins with the

Till Death Do Us Part two -parter and ends with

the Reunion two -parter. Also, interesting to

the series and Alice and Celie Smith took over

as the voice of Storm. So that's a new voice

for Storm starting here in Season 2. So that's

just the facts for today. Now let's toss it over

to TFG1 Mike and company as they discuss in detail

Season 2 of X -Men The Animated Series. Thank

you so much, whoever the hell you were, for giving

us just the facts on X -Men 92 Season 2. This

is our history with the show. Did we watch the

show as kids a duh Like come on like well, okay.

I was okay. Yeah, I was a teenager, but still

yeah, I was I was 12 when it came out and by

the time it ended I was 17 so yeah, I watched

it off and on but it was one of those things

for me I watched it sporadically after like the

second season I caught episodes here and there,

and when I finally caught Beyond Good and Evil,

which is supposed to be the series finale in

season four, I was like, oh, it's over. No more

X -Men. Okay, it's done. It ended up really,

really good. Great ending, guys. And then somehow,

some way, like years later, I found out there

was a fifth season. I'm like, wait, what? Huh?

Yeah, no. Yeah, I remember hearing about, I think

I read it in, where did I read it? Read it somewhere

in a magazine. It's like no there's gonna be

a fifth season and you know there's gonna be

new looks to characters, and I'm like Okay, all

right. I thought we were done, but okay. We're

still going okay All right, I see how it is.

I think though I had to catch I had to catch

season 5 Sporadically because by that by that

time the local Fox affiliate stopped doing Saturday

morning cartoons, so I'm like okay great now

How am I gonna find this thing? Yeah, yeah Like

I totally met I totally missed out on silver

surfer thanks to these a -holes I would say that's

a good thing Silver surfer cartoon wasn't that

great. Oh That's too bad because I was loving

I was loving the 90s like late 80s early 90s

silver surfer comic So outside of preparing for

this, when was the last time we saw the show?

For me, it was when Disney put out the bare bones

DVD releases a few years ago. When I say a few

years ago, I think that was like 10 years ago

at this point. Hang on, because I got season

one in my hands. That was... Yeah, that was about

yeah, I'd say about ten years ago. Yeah somewhere

between 2007 and 2009 yeah Yeah, yeah about yeah,

I think here it says about 2009 or so small print

small print Was that the last time you saw it

was when the DVDs came out before obviously now

Yeah, that was about the yeah, that was about

when the DVDs came out I I of course picked up

a season or two and I was like, you know just

flashing back to my My high school days and you

know happy about it Absolutely I think I also

I think I also may have watched One or two of

the season five episodes online Like some you

know this was like in the days before YouTube

like crack down on what you could Upload and

what you couldn't right no way Wolverine. We've

got a job to do first What do we remember most

about this show before catching up with it recently

almost everything honestly like Yeah, this show

is very not as very unforgettable when it comes

to Its content its stories the opening theme

What I noticed and what I'll talk about as we

go along Is that Certain episodes as we go through

season 3 and 4 I think I don't know what season

4 but at least this season and then season 3

next week Certain episodes the time the opening

title sequence changed so the muse the theme

music changed It was still the same opening theme

song type, but there was like a few chords difference

because the animation Opening was different like

there was an alternate opening to it, and I'm

like wait What why is that this way like I didn't

it's not a bad thing for me I'm fine with it,

but I was like I did not remember that happening

I didn't I didn't either like but like I Did

I was introduced by a friend of mine to the ant

to the the anime style openings that they that

they did over in Japan But yeah, I when I when

I saw like the the sub It was one of those things

that it's like the back of my brain is going

wait a minute. Is this something's different

here. Mm -hmm I mean for me, I didn't even have

to Obviously I did watch it. I didn't have to

but as soon as I heard the music change. I'm

like, okay There's something different here.

What's you know, it's kind of like Sesame Street

one of these things just doesn't belong here.

It's like oh my god. What the hell? So what other

things did you remember most about this show

before we went back and saw it? Well, no, I just

yeah the theme song the The theme song the animation

also just how? The makers of the show tried to

cram in all these little cameos and Easter eggs

and You know like I still remember the you know

when we get to it next step next episode I still

remember all the cameos that they stuck in during

Phoenix Saga You know and then just some of the

stuff that they and then just some of like the

the background one -shot x -men characters that

show up in crowd scenes and things like that

yeah absolutely same here um and what level of

a fan were we heading into the prep work for

this record um like i said earlier you know Pretty

much die hard we pretty much remember this stuff

like without even having to like I don't remember

every single episode But I knew the till death

do us part was in here. I knew you know all of

that was gonna be in here Cuz you know mr. Sinister

and what makes me so mad and I could be wrong

cuz I'm kind of tired and delirious right now

the till death do us part two -parter They never

really give an explanation as to why Sinister

is so infatuated with Scott and Gene. Maybe it

happens later that they do that, but I don't

know. Yeah, I was also kind of, yeah, it just,

that kind of felt like... Well, he's infatuated

with the bloodline because, well, in the comics

he's infatuated with the two. So, you know, that's

it. That's it. That's all we're gonna get into.

So, let's see. We've got Scott, who obviously

loves Jean. We've got Wolverine, who, you know,

longs for her and all that and everything else.

And then we've got Sinister, who, it's like,

wow. Popular chick. Sinister's all about, you

know, I want to play science lab with you. Yeah.

Oh my god. Yeah. Yeah, something that I'm sure,

you know, some of the more, um, you know, some

of the more, uh, you know, some of the more,

um, weird parts of like DeviantArt and all that

are, you know, would just run with. There are

some very, very weird parts to DeviantArt that

I just will never, ever, somebody will tell me

like, nope, yep, I'm good. I don't need to know.

Don't even need to tell me. Nope, nope, nope.

Absolutely not All right getting into the season

breakdown Highlights and lowlights of the season

for me it depends on the episode more so than

anything else Like I like storms episodes where

she goes back to not Kilimanjaro and all that

but it's not Yeah, it's like that and the omega

red red dot like that one Well that that one

it's that one I think it shares Something with

the magneto episodes of season one. Okay in the

sense that they decided. Oh, this is a kid's

cartoon so like for example with magneto, it's

like Nope, we're not going to mention the Holocaust.

We're not going to mention Nazis. Nope, nope,

nope. He was just in a war. It affected him.

That's all you need to know. Yeah. Same thing

with like Omega, the Omega Red stuff. You know,

it's like, OK, yeah, it's the Soviet Union. It's

the Cold War, but it's just going to they're

just going to go really vague. Yeah. You know

what? I will say, though, that it ends up being

almost a blessing in disguise because you can

then play the episode you know you you don't

have you know it it kind of works with the whole

marbles kind of whole thing about the sliding

time scale like if you just make it some sort

of conflict then you know you don't have to go

back and be like well it was a conflict in the

eight you know but lasted from the fifties to

the eighties yeah computer body slide by one

to HQ like I mean come on what I'm noticing and

I'm only noticing this now cuz I don't know why

I wasn't earlier in the entirety of season two

is care I mean it's all character driven but

it's character specific like till death do us

part is Scott and Gene and more and the nasty

boys and yada yada yada and all that and mr.

sinister Whatever it takes is all about Storm

and all of that. Omega Red is about, you know,

Wolverine and Colossus and all of that. Well,

it's pretty much Colossus more than Wolverine.

Repo Man is Wolverine because, you know, Vindicator

and Alpha Flight capture him and they want to

know about his Antimanium Skeleton. And then

our favorite episode of all time, externally

yours, is focusing on Gambit. What's this weak

Imasabi? What's this power? Don't drag me into

your obsession with that phrase. Don't do that.

It had some good shots of rogue in that episode,

so that's all I need. And then the Time Fugitives

episode is Cable and Bishop, and of course all

the other characters, but that's focused on them.

Obviously, Tale is focused on Rogue. Beauty and

the Beast. You know, Beast and Carly and all

that, so it's focusing on Hank. And then... The

only one, after looking through all these, realizing

that they're all character driven, the only one

that's kind of out of place is Mojo Vision! Cuz

after this is reunion part one and two with the

whole savage land mr. Sinister thing kind of

like mojo mojo vision is the only one that's

like the sore thumb That just you know sticks

out. Yeah, it's Well, I guess I guess what they

were trying to do is give like a nice light -hearted

fun episode before getting into like all the

you know all the drama and stuff of the the finale

Maybe, I guess. I don't know. Mojo is just one

of those characters that's like, uh, no. Like,

I like TV talk, but Rekgar does it better. Well,

I think, well, that's the thing. I mean, Rekgar

is more of just making fun of pop culture in

general, and I think Mojo is just sort of, you

know, trying to be specific. you know, make fun

of just the guys behind the curtain in Hollywood.

You know, the guys at the studio level. I think

that's the thing, you know? Yeah, absolutely.

Do you have any other favorite type moments or

things from Season 2 that you want to talk about?

Well, okay, well because I'm a huge Marvel zombie,

when Alpha Flight showed up in Repo Man, I was

really happy. Like when I heard Alpha Flight

was going to show up, I'm like, yes! So when

the episode finally hit, I'm like, oh wow, this

is really cool. I actually, and you know what,

I, well, and then of course the fact that Rogue's

Tale, that they put in, that they brought in

Miss Marvel, Carol Danvers, that was really,

that, that I was like, yes, yes, I love that

they, that they had the, that they had that,

that they actually touched into that storyline.

And then for me, I love the The Times fugitives

two -parter. Yeah, I love it. I mean I let that

that is probably my favorite of Season two Yeah,

I'm just well. Well what I love about it is first

of all, they brought back cable they brought

back Bishop and I just what I love is how well

first of all, I have to laugh because It's it's

the TV shows way of doing the legacy virus without

having the legacy virus Yeah, I know that was

that was the big deep around this time that had

started showing up and that was like mutant You

know the mutant AIDS thing and the fact that

they did it and they kind of like they just Did

it in two episodes and okay, we're just gonna

do this. Okay, that's it. We're done You know

just that's a laugh and how they they had it

but they got rid of it as quickly as possible

What I but what I really love about it is this

is this is like time travel story done really

well because I just love the idea that Okay cable

wants to save his time But if he does it he screws

up Bishop's time and if Bishop wants to save

his time he screws up cable's time and this whole

idea of can we find a solution that saves both

and Doesn't like get rid of but you know doesn't

get rid of both You know so and yeah, they did

they did find option C, but it was kind of cool

that Both you know both travelers had to grapple

with that and it's like oh, okay Well, I got

to save my time so screw you no I got to save

my time so screw you you know and Gotta love

that cliffhanger with cable being like wait a

minute Do I have to actually help apocalypse

if I want to save my future? Well, dude, I'm

not into this You know I gotta say though I did

I did notice a an interesting plot hole with

times fugitives or something something that kind

of feels because you have This you know when

bishop we first see bishop in the episode. He's

coming back He's coming back to his time and

he's like wait a minute things have changed Did

I succeed and forge like the hell are you talking

about man? We're still dying and it's like correct

and and correct me if I'm wrong, but When we

saw Bishop at the end of season one He had come

back to his time. Nothing had changed and forges

like it's alright Just we just keep going till

we get you know till we get it right and it's

like okay Missing was there supposed was there

like an adventure that Bishop had that we never

saw I? Think this was kind of it where this was

the adventure We never saw at the time like we're

at the end of I don't have that information in

front of me, but the list of those of the seven

folks of to cast beyond that whatever the name

of the episode is that this uh... isn't isn't

the total dull days of no god how the hell do

i forget i i i just need to not be a podcast

during more folks i'm retiring i i've put in

my ten years i'm done but it's not all but it's

like it's like it's okay what the hell the at

at the end of days of futures past he goes back

and you know it's not changed but maybe part

of it was or something something had to have

happened where yes it's not any better but it's

not any worse so it kind of just kind of has

that stay the same mentality and that's when

forge is like it's all right we'll we'll we'll

just you know keep on fighting the good fight

yet yeah you know well okay i i do have well

i do have okay i'm gonna i'm gonna go for the

marvel no prize here Even though they don't give

those out anymore, but yeah, I remember when

they used to Basically, okay. So we have the

end of days of future past where Bishop comes

back It looks like we still have you know, crap

sack sentinels rule everything and forge goes,

okay Well, you know, we'll just keep going back

till you know, you get it, right? Now one of

two things probably happen. Okay thing a Bishop

went back tried something else that we didn't

see Then came back and we have virus kills everybody

future So then Bishop has to go back and deal

with it. The other possibility is okay. So Bishop

Bishop is about to go back Like, you know Ford

says we'll just keep going till we you know till

we solve everything Bishop is about to go back

when he hits the portal maybe he intersected

with cable going back or he intersected with

something in time see that to me what you're

explaining is what happens in Beyond Good and

Evil right like maybe he came well maybe he hit

something and instead of ending up back in the

20th century like back in modern times he ended

up right back you know he ended up right back

in his native time but things had already like

things that already adjusted to virus kills everybody

future and bishop's brain kind of addled from

the experience thought that he you know didn't

you know basically forgot that he was already

there like two seconds ago and you know finding

out that things hadn't changed so from his perspective

his for his journey in days of future past was

apparently a success until he until he finds

out Wait, nope, we're still dying. But you know,

we're not now. We're getting mutant superflu.

So shit. Okay, you know even superflu and that's

when cable and apocalypse Like like chances are

most logical solution is he probably went back

had an adventure we never saw and then came forward

and was like Wait, did it work and forge like

nope. We are still got we're still dying from

you superflu. Yep and and yeah rogues but yeah

um dd and the beast i do have to i do have to

say i i laughed my head off at just how how much

of like how much of a wine fest uh graedon creed

does oh my god the fact that his dad is saber

tooth gets publicly revealed uh that said though

i do notice they changed saber tooth's name in

the uh in the cartoon oh did they what does it

mean yeah Well, in the comics, his real name

is Victor Creed. Okay, yeah. Yeah, and in the

cartoon, they change it to Graydon Creed Sr.,

which I'm guessing they did that because, you

know, this kind of makes it a little bit more

obvious and a little bit more, oh, OMG, that's

his dad? You know, that kind of drives the point

home a little easier than... Than having then

saying Victor Creed Yeah, then then then it's

like for those for those of us who don't read

the comics or we're familiar with it It's a little

bit more of a head scratcher going wait. Does

this mean they're related? You know, it's I think

they just wanted that instant. Whoa kind of factor.

Yeah absolutely There's even there's even um

mojo vision actually I I know I know you don't

like it, but I did notice it creates an interesting

again You have a plot hole thing here because

one of the one of the ladies that kind of hangs

off long shot is Dazzler Right, but then she

shows up albeit with her hair kind of a little

darker than we're used to in Dark Phoenix next

season Yeah, but my like my ex, you know, I was

thinking about that. I was like, oh, yeah, that's

it. That's right my explanation for it though

is Mojo being one that keeps spying on on you

know on earth saw Dazzler was like wow you know

I could you know I could use a hot you know I

could use a hot girl like that you know maybe

we'll give maybe we'll give long shot a girlfriend

he'll shut up and that was Jubilee's job yeah

well you know he sees he sees dazzler on earth

right yeah yeah maybe I'll kidnap her maybe one

of his you know one of his aids or something

is like master maybe you shouldn't and he's like

okay fine we'll just make some sort of duplicate

clone you know maybe we'll change the hair or

something oh god no don't you dare don't you

dare compare mojo to hardac come on now hardac

is so much better than mojo i'm not comparing

i'm just saying i know but that's the first thing

like you you mentioned you know duplicate and

i'm like no no hardac no no no So much evil there

like no I Did not think I was gonna break anyone's

brain today, but I just yeah well there you go

there you go um Out of season two I would say

that the pace of the season is very well done

like all of the stories intersect to each other

even mojo vision intersects a little you know

obviously because it's between you know beauty

because honestly after the after like time fugitives

and a rogue's tale you needed something like

beauty and the beast and mojo vision and yes

i just said we needed mojo vision like you said

is a kind of a buffer Which I can't believe I'm

even admitting that because oh my god It's not

even that like I like the idea of a television

world a world that is nothing but televised whatever

Not necessarily a televised fight club because

you know the first thing you First rule of televised

fight club is you don't talk about televised

flight flight Wow, right club. Damn it. I can't

talk today Yeah, pretty much your brain and then

the you know The season ends with reunions, and

it's, you know, Xavier Magneto, Savage Land,

Mr. Sinister, all this stuff, Super Mutants,

and whatever else, and just absolutely love it.

Yeah, but by the way, did you know, I did notice

something as far as the season goes. Almost all

the episodes, we do have this little kind of

interlude with the Xavier Magneto road trip through

the Savage Land. But the thing thing I've noticed

is that if you if you take those little ending

scenes out Then each episode could pretty much

be standalone. Yes, like the only the only the

only thing, you know It's just the fact that

you have those little Xavier Magneto scenes that

kind of add kind of continuity to it yeah they

kind of tie it all together i mean technically

outside of the ones that say part one and part

two like time fugitives like till death do us

part like reunions technically you're right they

are like Externally Yours, Red Dawn, Repo Man,

all of those are pretty much one -shot character

-driven episodes, which I think is a good thing,

as well as it also being the other way, where,

like you're saying, having the Xavier and Magneto

moments, you know, kind of tied together. Because

they're not there. Like, they specifically say,

what are we going to do? Now, Charles is not

here. Yeah, Charles is missing, yeah. Yeah. So

that was part of the thing where the X -Men and

whomever else, whether it's the villains or whatever,

they had to find a way to go on without Charles

and that's what happened in these plot lines

of all these episodes I've already mentioned

and yeah, absolutely. But Mr. Sinister wanting

them for super and be like, oh my god. Well,

I mean, Sinister in the comics has always been

about genetics and kind of... Yeah. You know,

kind of wanting to be the actual, you know, it's

one of those things of, Hey, I could just wait

for the future of mutant kind, or you know what?

I could do it myself. Yeah. So, you know, that's

it. He kind of wanted option B. It's like, okay,

I can make the future mankind. Cause you know

what? Because science. Yeah. So the crazy thing

here is, and I've known this since I was a kid.

Yeah. You have Xavier and Magneto. Xavier wants

to help mutant and mankind coexist together.

Magneto wants mutant kind to rule over human

kind. Mutants are superior. Humans are inferior.

And Sinister is essentially the next evolutionary

step of Magneto. Like, I want super mutants.

I want everybody to, you know, humans suck. Yadda

yadda yadda. Whatever. Like, wow. Sinister is

just a more evil version of Magneto. With genetics.

Well, see, because that's the thing. Sinister's

all about, well, you know what? I'm all about

genetics and science, so science dictates that

mutants have to go beyond, so I'm going to help.

At least with Magneto, at least you have that

kind of thing of... Why does he want mutants

to rule, and why is he in this? Because it's

like, well, let's see, I was already part of

one minority that got royally screwed, so this

other minority I'm a part of, this ain't gonna

happen again! So, I'm gonna conquer your asses

so you don't try to camp us again. You know,

at least there's, it's, you know, with Magneto,

it's kinda an ends justify the means type of

thing. Whereas with Sinister, it's just, hey,

this is science, okay, so shut up. Shut up and

let me and let me screw with your genome here.

Yeah Absolutely. All right, we're gonna Talk

about how the season held up. Oh, we're gonna

say It's well, I was gonna say, you know, I do

have to love that reunion part one adds adds

to the the x -men drinking game because you do

have that that JEEEEN scream by cyclops when

like when uh she gets kidnapped yeah great great

although although great animation in that scene

because you have you know you have that you know

close -up on cyclops that he just rips his glasses

off and then it just pulls back as he just lets

loose with his optic uh blasts Didn't he say

sinister right there or he says sinister at one

point during sinister. Yeah. Yeah, but I Think

when he takes his glasses off and like blasts

the sky to get that pullback shot. It is a yeah

Yeah Because there are there are plenty of where

he's screaming sinister's name. I'm like, dude,

you're not captain Kirk. He is not con come on

Really Well, if this show is about anything,

it's about people screaming everybody's name.

Uh -huh. Everybody's screaming. Wolverine screams

Gene's name. Cyclops screams Gene's name. Gene

screams Scott's name. Yep. And then Xavier just

gets warped by some more powerful psychic being

and goes, ahhhhhh! Yeah. Brain fart. Alright,

how the season held up did the season keep your

interest throughout? Yeah Yes, it did it's one

of those things where Even going back and watching

these on who and I'll say this now I'm gonna

say this over the next three weeks as well folks

The series when we were getting back to getting

ready to record these I'm like, oh it's been

on Hulu for X number of whatever and I'm no pun

no X pun intended there um... but it's like oh

okay cool and then i see expiring soon it doesn't

tell you exactly when it's expiring but it says

oh x -men is expiring soon and i'm like oh crap

and that's when i miss i'm like we gotta get

this done because i'm not trying to look for

this because i don't have the i never got all

of the dvds i only got the first two seasons

i never got the rest of the set from like the

rest of the individual disney release dvds from

ten years ago or whatever it was so it's like

okay let's just bam bam bam knock them out and

right as i was watching the end of season three

which is next week they it got pulled from hulu

and i'm like oh you've got to be kidding me and

now of course it's back so well Well, season

three has its own problems. Yeah, we'll get to

that. That has to do something other than Hulu.

Yes. So did the season keep your interest throughout?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, definitely. Well, it also

it also kind of helps that. Yeah, I'm I'm a that,

yeah, I as a Marvel, it's like a Marvel fan for,

you know, for for decades. yeah I'm dating myself

you know it just there's always just stuff that

I could be like oh wow cool you know and especially

doing compare and contrast to things like oh

this is you know doing that comic story line

of you know that you know doing that comic story

and you know just being able to being able to

do you know being able to do that it's so yeah

it's held up it definitely held up absolutely

I am really looking forward to After watching

this season when I did watch it I'm like oh,

I actually want to start the next one now So

are you itching to watch the next season now?

Yeah, kind of Because I haven't seen this in

a long time like like I said It's been at least

nine or ten years since I've actually gone back

and watched this show Would we recommend this

season this season of the show to people yes

I mean, come on, this is some of the best X -Men

writing, or best, you know, X -Men story development

type stuff here. I don't know if I would actually

show any of X -Men 2 Children. Not this series.

I think it depends on the child. Like, if the

child is old enough, and or they're mature enough,

They could probably yeah, they could probably

have a Not have a problem It just yeah, like

this is not I would say this is not something

that you put in front of like six or seven year

olds No, no, this is most definitely not not

only this season, but this series is most like

12 years old I was fine. I was more than fine

because I was it when it when this show came

out in 92 I was more than fine so I would say

this is more like 13 and up I would say so there

is that I Think 11 and 12 might be able to handle

it. Yeah, maybe that's it's not well because

like like for example later seasons we have something

like like the way that they did the Proteus two

-parter would definitely be You know would definitely

not be as You know there would there wouldn't

be as big a deal You know it you know it helps

even tamer than the way like like I was saying

you know you had a two -parter that had That

had Pretty much the comic book version you know

the cartoon version of the legacy virus and it

was done in like two parts so you know in many

ways it's a lot tamer than the Than the comics

themselves. So yeah, I would say even like 10

to 12 could probably handle this easy Absolutely,

all right Let's see here rating on the GCR in

scale zero to five stars. What would you give

this you can do half points if you want? Mmm,

this this particular season. Yes, I would say

four and a half. I'm right there with you It's

really really well done the stories all meld

together well Even now that I've thought about

it even more mojo vision does fit even though

I don't want it to because that character just

Freaks me out. Anyway, I absolutely love it.

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76, X -Men Season 2 from 1992. Anything we missed,

Eduardo? No, I'd say as far as this is concerned,

yeah, nothing that we really missed. Absolutely.

So it is as we've said it is on Hulu It was available

on DVD. I'm not sure if those DVDs are still

around and you might be able to find them on

eBay Yeah, might be able to might be able to

find them on eBay may be able to find them on

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places like you know going to secondhand stores

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