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The Top 100 Animated Series: The 15th Anniversary Ultimate Wrap Up!

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About this Episode
The numbers have been tallied, the crown has been placed, and the grandest marathon in GCRN history has officially crossed the finish line! To celebrate 15 years of animation excellence, TFG1Mike, Steve Megatron, and OptimusSolo gather for the ultimate post-countdown wrap party. Across 9 historic countdowns spanning a decade and a half, the network has officially published a staggering 171 hours, 0 minutes, and 52 seconds of pure animation audio content—and we are breaking down every single second of it.
In this definitive wrap-up, the crew leaves no stone unturned as we compare the seismic shifts between the original 2011 list and this monumental 2026 edition. OptimusSolo unloads his final block of legendary nerd stats, prompting a heated round-table discussion. We reveal the shows we would personally boot from the countdown, the heartbreakers that just missed the cut in the 110–125 range, and the classics we think were ranked criminally low (or way too high). Plus, we drop a massive bombshell announcement that will change the network forever: The Top 100 Heroes Countdown is officially coming in Summer 2027!
What you’ll get out of this episode:
- A masterclass statistical comparison of how animation tastes evolved from 2011 to 2026.
- Unfiltered host debates on the most overrated and underrated shows on the final list.
- A deep dive into the "Just Missed" bracket from numbers 110 to 125.
- The exclusive first details on the upcoming Top 100 Heroes mega-project.
It's time. The countdown begins. Hello and welcome
to the Geekcast Radio Network's Top 100 Animated
Series 15th Anniversary 2026 Edition Rap Party.
That's right, folks. We're rapping dragons over
here. All the numbers have been counted and recounted
for you Florida people. And then we revealed
them. Now we are closing down the Top 100 shop
until the next time. But first, I'm of course
TF2 and Mike. Joining me is Steve Megatron. Hello.
And Optimus Solo. Hello. I had to just copy Steve.
Yeah. Well, it is late at night. So cleverness
is usually a daytime thing around here. Sometimes
we're all tired and whatever. And, oh, boy, is
this been a slobber knocker? And I'm glad we're
shutting down the top 100 shop until summer of
2027 at this point. We need to get our energy
back, folks. Yikes. I feel like a zero at this
point. No more heroics for us. Oh, boy. We've
done nine top 100 countdowns in 15 years for
a grand total, estimated grand total at this
point. This is everything, guys. This is including
the nominees for the lead up to this and including
up to... the top 50 to 26 and the estimated total
recorded and published time of the top 25 episode,
171 hours, zero minutes and 52 seconds of published
audio content. That is not including the thousands
of hours we've put into the work of these nine.
Top 100 countdowns in the last 15 years. Thousands
of hours of work. I'll have my my time card later.
Yeah, I for some reason feel like this is that
scene from Deadpool versus, you know, Deadpool
and Wolverine where he says until he's 90. Uh
huh. Uh huh. That's right. Uh huh. But for now,
we plan and plot. Obviously, we're never going
to get caught. So take it away, Optimus Solo,
and give the people, as well as us, a little
quote -unquote wrap on the wrap -up of the 2026
edition, a .k .a. the 15th anniversary version
of the Geekcast Radio Network's Top 100 Animated
Series Countdown. I'm glad this is the last episode.
I have to say any of that. I was going to say,
I was hoping that was the last time you were
going to say that at all. I'm going to spend
two comments first. I feel like maybe 171 hours
was spent just on this top 100 countdown, but
maybe I'm incorrect on that. It just feels that
way. And also, it's going to take me 171 hours
to understand everything you just said and whatever
you were trying to reference and whatever jokes
you were trying to make. So I'll need the cliff
notes or the like the, you know, when you watch
a movie and you don't understand it, you got
to go to the interwebs and get like somebody
else to explain it for you. I'm going to need
someone else to explain that whole intro to me
later. live in florida how do you not understand
counted and recounted it's election that was
the only one i understood i don't know what the
we plan we plot we never get caught i don't know
what the rap is i'm old i don't get these things
mike i'm old how do you not understand rap are
you talking about like rap music yes man man
i thought we were talking about cartoons Oh,
my God. Anyway, I am your master of the ceremonies
for tonight. We're going to now that we've done
all of the work of revealing the 100 through
one picks. Obviously, when we do that, they tend
to be a lengthy conversations and records. So
once we get to our number one, we generally don't
have a whole lot of time to dissect it, to react
to it, to give you our overall thoughts on everything
that has transpired. So we like to do that in
a separate episode. That's why we're here tonight.
So we can kind of give you all of the final thoughts,
questions, concerns, verdicts on what we have
compiled here as our new version of the top 100
animated series countdown. So we're going to
do that in a number of different ways here. First,
we're going to give Steve, Mike and myself each
a chance to look at the countdown and decide
if there was any entries that we would personally
boot out of the top 100 countdown. If we think
that there's any that maybe weren't worthy, we're
going to boot those out because we need to make
space for maybe some shows that were on our personal
list or just general shows that we thought of
that we think should have made it. So you can't
add stuff to it without taking stuff away. So
that's how that's going to work. And we're going
to get into a quick conversation of some things
we think were overall way too high or way too
low that got revealed. Then I'm going to reveal
in the... pre -episode or the the lead up to
the reveals we talked about the 101 through 110
we're going to give you 111 through about 125
just real quickly just so you kind of know those
and then if steve or mike have any that were
on the ballot that they're curious where they
landed we'll let them ask those questions as
well since as mike has said about 100 times during
this countdown this is the 15th anniversary edition
we're going to look back at that list 15 years
ago and compare Now that we've seen both of them
fully, what differences there were between the
two lists and kind of give some thoughts on that.
I have some final stats as far as what decade
reigns supreme, what production company, what
channel, all of those types of things. So we'll
go through some of the numbers. And then in the
wrap of the wrap, with our both spelled WRAP,
by the way, we will talk about our final thoughts
overall on the list, what we felt worked. Um,
and some, I have some prompts for the guys that
I'm interested, just kind of see there as well
as my closing thoughts on how I think this was
either a success or not a success and, and how
it may shape how we do top 100 list moving forward.
Uh, Mike, any questions or comments before we
get started? I think so. Steve, anything we,
you want to clarify before I get into it? Uh,
nope. All right. So we're going to start with
shows. we're booting out of the top 100 we just
revealed them they just got in the top 100 and
we're wasting no time and trying to kick them
right back out so i'm gonna be interested to
see from the panel if there's any that you guys
feel should not be a part of the list i have
a few that i would probably boot out i think
maybe about five that i'm going to give the axe
to which i think coincides nicely because i I
may be trying to squeeze more and then I'm kicking
out. So I might have to make some tough decisions,
but let's start with Steve. Is there anything
that we revealed in the top 100 that you felt
like, not necessarily that it didn't deserve
it, but that you thought maybe something else
deserved it more. So something that you would
be willing to move outside to make room for something
else. So I actually had a list of five that I
would have removed. My list consisted of, in
no particular order, Rocko's Modern Life, The
Legend of Korra, Speed Racer, the Tartakovsky
Clone Wars, and X -Men 97. Very good. Any that
you want to highlight as far as ones that you're
most passionate about? About removing? Yeah.
Or do you think they're all equal footing as
far as they all are about the same level? Yeah,
I mean, honestly, like I think Legend of Korra
would be one of the number ones I would remove
just because even from my kids standpoint, like
there's not a great love for that series from
what I've heard from a lot of people. Not to
mention. X -Men 97, I would only boot because
technically it's a continuation, but it also
it we're still waiting on season two at the time
of this. this countdown uh i know season two
is coming i first baby yeah uh and then the tartakovsky
clone wars i would remove just because we got
a superior one that came later uh so i mean those
three are kind of like the main one speed racer
i feel like it's kind of a i get what it's going
for but i don't i don't have a deep appreciation
or love for it i found it kind of more like the
the show that i would find at night when I was
younger to go to sleep. And because it was boring
to me. And then Rocco's Modern Life. I'm not
a huge Nickelodeon fan. I did watch it as a kid,
but I never loved the show. Like I would have
rather watched like Angry Beavers or something
else like or, you know, one of those shows rather
than this. To me, they're kind of all on equal
ground. I prefer out of this list X -Men 97.
If any of the five would have stayed, that would
have been it just for the sake of I enjoyed it
overall, but it also has only had one season.
And so I felt like it kind of got in by proxy
of the original show, not necessarily based on
its own merits yet. Yeah, definitely something
we debated back and forth a little bit heading
into this. Yeah, for sure. Those five are pretty
much my kind of staples of what I would have
removed. Totally get it. Makes perfect sense.
I think I'm going to let Mike go next on any
that you would boot out, Mike. Not what you're
adding in, just what you're taking away. Yeah,
no, I know. I understand. I understand the task.
I agree with Steve. Like, I don't understand.
I understand why we separated them because X
-Men 97, even though it is a continuation of
X -Men, the animated series, it was still marketed
as its own separate thing. It was so far removed
in time, obviously from when the original series
was released and everything else and yada, yada,
yada, but it's only got one season. How can you
like we've. already talked about this to death
top 100 series were top 100 list worthy you have
to have more than what you can't just be like
no one's putting stripperella on here stripperella
only had one season it was okay wasn't great
but you know you know like you can't just know
so i would take as much as i enjoy it i would
take x -men 97 off I would take Beavis and Butthead
off. I would take Ren and Stimpy off. This is
just my bias. This is just me. I don't like those.
Beavis and Butthead was okay, but it wasn't my
style. Ren and Stimpy, I don't like Ren and Stimpy.
It's just, and I'm specifically, the reason why
I don't like Ren and Stimpy is when they got
to the gross humor. The more... actual funny
part of the humor i'm okay with but when they
started just doing the gross out humor i don't
like that show speed racer i never watched it
i and the fact that anyone can fall asleep like
i never watched it when back when when i was
a kid is what i mean when i was trying to watch
it to do research for this I don't know how you
fell asleep to this, Steve. Like people tell
me, I don't know how you fall asleep to forensic
files. I'm like, listen to Peter Thomas's voice
for more than five minutes. You'll fall asleep
immediately, even though he's talking about murder.
Like just the man's voice is amazing. But anyway,
the only other thing that I probably would remove
that I don't think belongs on here. There was
one that was too high that I thought was too
high. No, I think that's it. i think it's just
those i'm i'm re -looking through because well
because as we were doing the countdown i was
i i have the whole countdown list here so as
we were doing it i was writing them all down
so i'm looking through it and i'm like no okay
well that's it all i got what do you got kev
well so when i was looking at mine it was uh
as far as which ones remove i'm trying to balance
a little bit like some of it's going to be biased
as far as which ones i want to put in but when
it when it's Trying to decide what to remove
and what to put in. I'm trying to think of what
makes it more of a consensus list and what makes
it a better list overall. Trying to remove as
much as I can of some of my personal biases.
But there is a couple changes that I would make.
Now, I'm a little bit more extensive because
I'm like that, I guess. But I have 10, but I'll
go through them fairly quickly because some of
them have already been mentioned. So I would
also delete Legend of Korra, like you guys said.
I would probably delete Rocco's Modern Life,
like you guys said, and Star Wars, the Clone
Wars, the Tartagoski one, just because it's not
my style. And I think we already have Rebels
and we already have the Clone Wars. So I feel
like the Star Wars is well represented, as is
with a couple entries in the top 100. There's
a few others that I would kind of ping along
that same line here. I think just like we had
enough Star Wars, and I know personally, I would
probably have these on my own list. because i'm
a huge transformers fan but i think we have g1
and we have beast wars i may squeeze out beast
machines and transformers prime just to add a
little diversity into some that i feel like we're
missing so i'm gonna it'll make more sense when
i go to the ones i'm gonna add but i think out
of reboots and spinoffs and stuff like that we
could remove a couple of the transformers ones
and get a couple different spinoff reboots in
that i'll highlight in a second I also think
there's a couple classic shows that we were missing
that I would substitute in for the likes of Underdog.
And I know, Mike, you like the show and I do
too, but I would actually take Wacky Races and
Underdog out. And I have a couple other classic
shows that I think are more worthy of those two.
So I would change that as well. And then I'm
kind of on the fence between Invader Zim, Recess,
and the Super Mario Bros. Super Show. I'm still
debating on those three, but those are ones that
I would have to do some thought and really think
of those compared to some of these ones that
I'm trying to squeeze in. So transitioning somewhat
because it fits this conversation into what I
would squeeze in. So I talked about the classics
and taking underdog and wacky races out. And
I know this is more the historian in me and more
kind of the old school person in me, but I would
like Mighty Mouse to be involved somewhere in
the top 100. For me, some form of Mighty Mouse,
whether it might be Mighty Mouse Playhouse or
something like that, I would think would be able
to take one of those spots. And then I think
another one that I would put in that would both
be a classic and also speak to another thing
that maybe was a little underrepresented in our
list would be Astro Boy. So I feel like the combination
of Speed Racer and Astro Boy and a couple of
those classic anime shows could do well. When
it comes to the spin -offs and things of that
nature, reboots, the reason I would take Transformers
Prime and Beast Machines out, even though originally
I enjoyed Beast Machines more than any other
Transformers series outside of G1 for a long
time. Beast Wars has surpassed that in future
viewings. But I would take those out and I would
actually make room for a couple other reboots
that I think deserve it. So I have four that
I think deserve. some attention and that would
be scooby -doo mystery inc which we talked about
a little bit when we did the the reveal of the
regular original scooby -doo i think mystery
inc is worthy of being in the in the conversation
i would consider the 2003 turtles uh series to
to be put in there there's you could also go
with you know one of the future ones as well
but i think 2003 turtles is a good good one there
i know it got cut short but i would at least
like to talk about masters of the universe 2002
he made 2002 i think that's that's worthy and
then one that i'm surprised didn't make it i
guess it just didn't have enough love from our
specific group of 44 folks but i have a feeling
if we had a different group maybe it would i'm
surprised my little pony friendship as magic
didn't at least crack it now i know there's different
feelings or opinions about the show but i don't
think anyone can deny how much of a impact it
had for a specific part of the culture and like
there was a show that was more popular than it
during its time and it has produced a lot of
spinoffs and things of that nature as well so
i would try to make room for that as far as a
couple other ones i think from an anime standpoint
we could probably add in uh neon genesis evangelion
i think that was perhaps a miss It just missed
it, though, right? Yeah, it just missed it. It
was 107. And then the other one that I think
would serve another portion of the anime fandom
population would be some representation from
a Mobile Suit Gundam or something of that nature.
I think that could be worthy. The only other
one I had on my list was Bojack Horseman, which
just missed it. I feel like that probably was
deserving of being in there. It landed at the
104th spot. And then I will agree with Dan from
last week. I would probably make way for Bluey
to be in there somewhere, which was 105. So I
know a couple of those just missed with Bojack
Horseman, Bluey, and Evangelion. But I think
when I compare those to like, I don't know, Invader
Zim or Rocko's Modern Life or The Legend of Korra
or Underdog, like I feel like they're probably
a little bit more worthy. What about you, Mike?
We'll go in reverse order. So anything that you
would add in that didn't make it? Well, now that
you're saying all this, I would put He -Man 2002.
I would put Turtles 2003. I would actually put
My Little Pony Friendship is Magic, because like
you're saying, not only for the fact of the giant...
fandom that it had it was a really good show
it really really like i watched like maybe half
of the first season and just was really really
good i'm trying to think oh for the for me when
it comes to anime there's one show and really
there's only one show that i've ever fully gotten
into That's Yu -Gi -Oh! Dual Monsters. It's the
one with Yugi and Kaiba and Joey and Blue Eyes
White Dragon and Red Eyes Black Dragon. It's
the famous one from 2000 with the cards and Grandpa
and this and that and the other thing and everything
else. I would put that in as my anime choice.
Anything else that you would add in? Steve, anything
you're putting in that missed? So. It's funny
because I have like more than what. Than what,
you know, we have. Yeah. There were. And I agree
with like Mario and, you know, some of those
other ones removing them in favor of others.
Some that like a couple that were in the last.
Top 100 like Slaughter Deathmatch, Mighty Max,
Pirates of Dark Water, Hong Kong Fui didn't make
this one. So some of these like I do think the
2003 Turtles definitely should have made it Neon
Genesis or at least definitely Mobile Suit Gundam
of some force just because. It kind of lived
in tandem with Dragon Ball Z on Toonami. Because
I remember Peter Cullen doing the announcement
for it. I would almost argue like Naruto or Inuyasha
being on there. Because again, those were ones
that were kind of played in the Konami run as
well. And those have pretty decent followings.
I think for... a difference of shows star trek
lower decks yes could have been in there because
it was star trek it stayed true to the canon
but it also was a comedy and it was kind of like
if you like and this is this is what i've heard
from people is if you like rick and morty you'll
like lower decks because there's a very similar
like humor to it right in animation style I'm
not like the biggest fan of the animation, but
at the same time, I was able to overlook it because
the story was interesting. And so. Plus, it's
Star Trek, so I was going to tune in. So, I mean,
I think those shows I would definitely have in
there. Some I'm kind of on the fence about, like
a celebrity death match or. like hong kong phooey
or pup named scooby -doo or things like that
just because while i remember them more recent
generations aren't going to have a clue and there's
been no continuation or revival or reboot or
anything to keep that title going so right i
think the the few that i did mention though would
would kind of fit still with replacing what i
mentioned yeah i don't necessarily specifically
what pup named scooby -doo i don't think necessarily
there needs to be something to keep that going
i think that was specifically a series of its
time like if you want to do that again for a
new generation that is not that style like not
that and like if you want to do that like a new
version of that that's fine but i don't think
they're gonna do a continuation of that x number
of decades later like Oh God, we're almost coming.
Oh God, we're two years away from the 40th anniversary
of the show. Oh God, I'm so old. Oh God. So when
it comes to things that we would rank lower or
higher, I don't know how you guys did this. The
way I kind of looked at it was just the top 50
versus bottom 50 and ones I would kind of make
a move. Mostly that's kind of how I looked at
it. So I'll start us off with this one. There
was only two shows in the top 50 that I didn't
vote on specifically on my list. So I was. happy
with you know all of them showing up and one
of them was just a technicality i didn't vote
for justice league unlimited because i just voted
for justice league instead um and then the only
other one that i didn't vote for was the tick
so everything else in the top 50 i voted on but
as far as just because i voted on doesn't mean
i would have the same top 50 so there's some
that i definitely would put in the top 50 that
didn't quite make it um so i'm going to go over
those real quick first the ones that i think
should have been a little bit higher and there's
going to be a theme here with my historic classic
cartoon love so i guess you can prepare for that
but there's a there's a quartet of shows that
i would put in the top 50 that didn't make it
from the classic era so that would be the the
woody woodpecker show the pink panther show the
huckleberry hound show and popeye the sailor
i would i would probably make a case for all
four of those to be in the top 50 just from an
important standpoint um they ended up at 60 72
73 and 76 so almost all in the top 75 but i would
make a case for those to be higher as far as
other ones outside of that from a personal bias
i guess i would have loved to see danger mouse
crack the top 75 it landed at 93 so i would i
would love to see that i thought dj made a pretty
good case for robot chicken maybe being a little
bit higher and then the only other one the only
other two that i had that were well one on one
on this side of 50 and one on the other star
wars the clone wars at 52 i think that's probably
a top 50 worthy cartoon and then i could see
even though i have never watched a single episode
of it just from the reach that it has had and
the staying power i could see a lot of people
making the argument for spongebob being higher
than 42 being maybe somewhere in the top 30 top
25 and things like that and then Even though
they were 34 and 35, I would make a case for
the Tom and Jerry show and the Yogi Bear show
to both be a little bit higher as well. So a
lot of classic love that I'm trying to show out,
I guess, for those. But go to you, Steve. Next,
anything that you felt like, you know, that we
talked about maybe in those first two episodes
that you were hoping would have stuck around
until the final two episodes. So in the first
two. I felt like a lot of them. I wasn't decided
in either direction on some of them. However,
that being said, I feel like Dragon Ball probably
should have gotten a little bit higher just because
I know Dragon Ball Z put everything into the
mainstream, but Dragon Ball kind of lit the fire
that everything else kind of copied from there.
I would almost argue... I would have liked to
have seen like Freakazoid a little bit higher
or, you know, Robot Chicken, Beast Machines.
I'm not like the biggest fan of like Pokemon
nowadays, but I could see that being a little
bit higher just because it's the longevity of
it. There's a number of other shows I probably
would have moved. a lot farther down the list.
Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, but I mean, as far as
the first, the first 50, like that's, that's
kind of the shows I would pick. Okay. Any in
that second group of 50 that did make it to the
top 50, but you would have preferred that they
were closer to, you know, maybe the top 20, top
15, top 25, something like that. out of any of
the numbers or just yeah just anything you know
maybe it was something that was like I don't
know 26 through 50 in that third episode that
you would have preferred to be in the last episode
or something along those lines that you just
thought was more top 10 top 20 worthy that didn't
quite make it I would argue I would almost argue
like Phineas and Ferb should have been in there
Spongebob just because the longevity of it I
would argue like Batman Beyond. Yeah, I would
have argued probably Superman, the animated series.
I could see it. This landing with some people,
maybe not me personally, but like Rugrats. Girls
like I could see those landing. But yeah, I think
that would be it as far as me for that. block
between 25 and 50. Okay. Mike, what about you?
Anything that you would like to slide up closer
to the top half of the countdown or into the
top 10, 20? Yeah. So there's basically two shows
from the bottom 50 that I want to be in, in the
top 50, if not the top 25. And basically I've
picked two numbers where I think they should
go and where the shows that are in those current
numbers that they should move to the other slots.
So Ren and Stimpy gets kicked to 81, and Jem
goes in the 36 slot. Okay. And Family Guy gets
kicked to 65, and Kim Possible gets put in the
32 slot. Jem is more of a... We've already talked
about Jem. It was the 80s girl. I feel it's not
just a girls cartoon. It's for everybody, boys
and girls. But it was basically, hey, look, we
can do anything. We're the superstars. But it
wasn't just that. It was just really for anything.
Same thing with Kim Possible. Her whole thing.
I'm Kim Possible. I can do anything. And then
on the flip side of that, her buddy Ron Stoppable,
voiced by Will Friedle, a .k .a. Batman Beyond.
I'm Ron Stoppable. I can't do anything. I just
can't do anything. I love this show. This show's
amazing. It's so fun. It's so good. It's just
awesome. I feel like those two. entries should
have been much much higher even though they're
not uh as far as other things like yeah i would
have liked to see things higher batman beyond
going from 16 in 2011 to 27 it kind of hurt but
at least it's still in the top half at least
it's it's still in the top 50 if it had dropped
any lower i might have had my batman beyond blood
boiling a little bit more than what it was but
again it's an amazing show it is what it is i
really can't complain with what we've put together
for the most part and what you know we're always
gonna have things that we want to see higher
or lower or things move around or whatever phineas
and ferb would i love to have seen it not be
38 and maybe be 21 or or whatever and hey at
least it made the countdown at least it wasn't
104 and didn't make the countdown because you
know 104 days of summer But it is what it is.
I do have to put it on the record that I just
so everyone's clear. This is Optimus Solo speaking,
and I do not support the hate for Ren and Stimpy
or the Family Guy. So direct that message to
TFG. I do not generally hate Family Guy. However,
as I said, I don't mind when Ren and Stimpy has.
decent humor but i'm sorry i do not laugh at
grossed out humor i puke at grossed out humor
sorry that's that's just the way it is that show
just making it clear to the listeners who to
direct what opinions at towards you know as far
as some some ones that i thought maybe were were
too high i don't have a lot i only really highlighted
two on my kind of run through here i thought
that rescue rangers at 15 was a little high for
me i do like the new rangers is it was 100 or
60 yeah uh 16 excuse me it lost the tie break
um whatever it was tied with picking the brain
uh before the record and i don't i didn't update
my numbers after that rescue rangers just being
in the top 20 to me i'd love the disney afternoon
i probably wouldn't have put it in the top 20
so i would probably have moved that outside of
the top 25 to make room for something else. And
I'm a fan of Voltron, but I probably wouldn't
have put Voltron in the top 50. I just think
there's a couple other shows that I would have
rather slid into the top 50, like the Clone Wars
or one of those classics like Popeye or something
of that nature instead. But those are about the
only two I highlighted. Steve, anything that
you would have lowered and then, and or anything,
well, let's start with that. Anything you would
have lowered in the countdown? So lowering, I
would have lowered Ren and Stimpy, Ghostbusters,
Muppet Babies, Teen Titans, Gravity Falls, Adventure
Time, Smurfs, and Thundercats. Everything he
said except Thundercats. Which leads me to another
question, and Steve can continue on some of his
thoughts with those shows too, but I was also
curious what some of your biggest surprise moments...
in the countdown were so for me the fact that
one of my overall biggest surprises was gi joe
at number 28 and i bring that up because you
said thundercats and i would have never put and
i would have never thought thundercats would
have beat out gi joe this time around yeah having
gi joe at 28 and thundercats at 26 was probably
for me one of the biggest surprises any steve
i'll let you comment on the ones you would have
moved a little bit more or anything else that
you were surprised by Honestly, I was super surprised
that Thundercats beat out G .I. Joe, Inspector
Gadget, Jetsons, and Batman Beyond. I would have
put it in the 40s. I would not have... 40s or
50s. Or at the very least, 50. I don't think
that it... has the longevity or the care that
the rest of the shows do that actually preceded
it and so i would have i would have moved that
that one was kind of shocking to me uh i was
shocked mostly about gi joe yeah um in that regard
uh i was i was also kind of shocked that you
know spongebob went where it went and although
it kind of landed right where it did last time
But seeing some of the flip -flops of numbers,
Family Guy dropped, Beast Wars actually went
up, which I was fearful it was going to drop
farther. What do you think Family Guy dropped?
It was 21st. I thought it was at 100 last time.
You voted for it at 100. It was 21. Damn, your
hate couldn't overpower the panel last time.
God damn it. Yeah, I mean, I was surprised that
Dragon Ball even made it on the list. I was surprised
that Dragon Ball Z went up 14. And there was
a lot of numbers that did a lot of flip -flopping,
and I was quite surprised the ones that did.
And then, of course, I was ecstatic when certain
ones didn't. such as our number one, number two,
and number five, that essentially stayed exactly
where they were. Speaking of which, you talked
about some movement. I'm going to give you real
quick the shows that increased their standing
20 spots or more. These are shows that increased
where they landed by at least 20 spots. So we
had Huckleberry Hound did that. We had Powerpuff
Girls, Cowboy... bebop phineas and ferb and king
of the hill and avatar those were the ones that
climbed the most and uh oh and i'm sorry teen
titans and daria uh if i didn't mention those
daria was the biggest climber of the entire group
going up 61 spots and then teen titans 58 spots
powerpuff girls 54 spots so those were like the
huge movers everything else was closer to 20.
And then as far as like the biggest drops, we
had Star Wars Clone Wars dropped 31 spots. Super
Friends dropped 52. Alvin and the Chipmunks surprisingly
dropped 46. Beavis and Butthead dropped 31. And
I think those are the only ones over 30. So there
was definitely some big movers one way or the
other. Mike, any other big surprises for you?
No. not really all right well let's get into
uh another part here where we talk a little bit
about some other picks that we haven't revealed
yet so like we said we talked about the 101 through
110 that we revealed in the pre show and then
i figured it'd be fun to take a quick look at
111 through 125 i'll go through these fairly
quickly since there's 15 of them or whatever
we're talking about which i think is fitting
15 years 15 more picks that will reveal i guess
so like we talked about with 101 through 110
that was georgia the jungle magic school bus
young justice bojack horseman bluey captain n
and genesis evangelion winnie the pooh american
dad and a pup named scooby -doo those are those
we had already revealed if we pick up after that
with 111 we would have transformers animated
at number 111 We would have had Star Trek The
Animated Series at 112. This is where we would
have gotten the 2003 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Selection at 113. Doug at 114. Gumby Show at
115. The Boondocks at 116. Sonic the Hedgehog
at 117. Goof Troop 118. Harley Quinn 119. Star
Trek Lower Decks 120. Quick Draw McGraw 121.
2012 Turtles at 122. Hey Arnold, 123. My Little
Pony Friendship is Magic, 124. And the 2017 DuckTales
at 125. Mike, any thoughts about those 15 that
came close but didn't quite make it? Damn, TFA
got in at 111. Was that close to having five
Transformers series in our countdown? That's
not that close. That's 11 spots off of getting
in. It was like 90 points away. Oh, God. You
failed us, Mike Seibert and Michael Andrews.
Two Mikes, two Furious. You failed us, people.
It's interesting the amount of reboot love that
came in there. We had Transformers animated,
2003 Turtles. We had the 2012 Turtles, My Little
Pony, Friendship and Magic, and DuckTales, the
reboots. Those were all within 25 spots of making
it. Mike or Steve, any other thoughts on those
15? What was 121 through 123 again? 121 was Quick
Draw McGraw, 122 was the 2012 Turtles, and 123
was Hey Arnold. The good old football head. So
interestingly, from a 90s standpoint, we would
have only added A few, Doug, Sonic, Goof Troop,
and Hey Arnold. From the more modern, we would
have gotten quite a few. Harley Quinn, Lower
Decks, 2012 Turtles, Friendship is Magic, and
the 2017 DuckTales. No additions in that section
from the 80s. There would have been no additional
80s shows in there. And then we would have gotten,
from an older school standpoint, Star Trek, Gumby,
and Quick Draw McGraw. It's kind of funny because
out of this 111 through 125, I would have probably
put Transformers animated. Star Trek, the animated
series was not very good. I would not have. I
would not have been for that. TMNT 2003, like
100 % would have been for that. Yep. I know there's
a following for Boondocks. Sonic the Hedgehog,
of course, like I would have voted for that.
I think I did vote for that. Harley Quinn, I
know there's a following and there are some humorous
aspects. Still haven't seen that all the way,
but I've seen enough episodes to know that it's
pretty good. Quick Draws, good. Lower Decks,
I would have voted for because I did. 2012 TMNT
was really good. Had a nice crossover at the
87 Turtles. Hey Arnold had a good following.
My Little Pony had a good following instead of
the DuckTales. I think these are all solid contenders
to get into the list. And they just lost out
to other shows that had more notoriety and popularity
from our panel of 44. Yeah, it was interesting.
There was no 80s in that section. It would have
actually taken us down to 131 to get to our next
80s. There's only actually three other 80 shows
in the top 140. That would have been Dungeons
and Dragons, Heathcliff, and She -Ra would have
been three that were in the top 140. But otherwise,
they had no representation from 111 to 130. So
interesting from there. As far as shows that
were on our nominees ballots or the 50 shows
from each decade, is there any that you guys
or stuff that you had on your list that you're
curious as far as where they came in that we
haven't revealed so far? Steve, anything that
you're curious about where it fell? I would say,
where did the Masters of the Universe 2000X show?
That would have been 149. So, 104, well, it was
tied with, it was tied, 147, 148, and 149 were
all tied. That was Arthur, Fat Albert, and the
2002 He -Man series were all tied right around
that. 149 spot. Interesting. What about... I
know you were a fan of Dragon Ball. Dragon Ball
Super would have been 145. Been in the top 150.
What was What If at? What If? Marvel What If.
Well, everything got votes except for four. The
four shows we revealed in the pre. What if would
have been 139? 39. Mighty Max? Mighty Max. Let's
see where that one fell. Perusing Mighty Max
would have fallen all the way down to 198. Wow.
Damn. Mega Man? Mega Man was 197 right before
Mighty Max. Okay. Swatcats? I just saw that one
a little bit ago. Where was that one? Apologize
for my scrolling. Swatcats, 164. Hmm. Nice. Interesting.
I had a few others that I voted on that I was
curious about. What about the cybernetic space
cube transformers generation two? That was not
an option. I know, I know. That's the point.
Lord have mercy. It's so obscure, it's not even
a contender. The only shows that received...
Let's see. The only shows that were on only one
list. So only one person voted for these shows.
So outside of the four that didn't get any votes,
these would have been the next ones that only
received one vote. And that would have been C
-Lab 2020, The Backyardigans, We Bare Bears,
New Adventures of Flash Gordon, Big Hero 6, the
series. banana splits adventure hour marvel spider
-man harlem globetrotters wild kratts those were
the ones that were only on one list interesting
i know wild kratts was on my sons there we go
i thought about voting for it for sure um another
interesting thing we can do that i didn't uh
forgot to put in the script here but everybody's
number one so we did reveal that three people's
number one did not make the countdown so uh going
through that here obviously we had The top, the
most number one entries was actually Looney Tunes.
Looney Tunes made it on nine people's number
one list, even though it wasn't our number one
overall or our number two overall. It did have
the most times on the number one list. That was
followed by Batman, the animated series, which
was on eight people's number ones. Then the next
highest would be three appearances on a number
one list, which would have been Gargoyles and
Avatar, the last Airbender. Those both appeared
on three. As far as ones that appeared on two,
that would have been the 1980s DuckTales, Transformers,
the Flintstones, Turtles, and Rocky and Bullwinkle.
Those all made two appearances on people's number
ones. And then for the ones that were only on
one, that would be The Simpsons, which came in
number two, but it was only on one person's number
one. The Animaniacs, South Park, He -Man, Batman
Beyond, The Ren and Stimpy Show, Reboot. sailor
moon and then the ones that didn't make the top
100 which would have been bojack horseman then
we got to go down to 148 somebody did have fat
albert and the cosby kids as their number one
and then we got to go all the way down to what
would have came in at 199 visionaries knights
of the magical light was one person's number
one overall and i will uh i will maybe reveal
that that might have been the person that wrote
the show so point dilly definitely had visionaries
as his number one oh i mean you know you know
if you write the show it's your number one show
i mean even some love to it i understand why
so um that was definitely some interesting things
to see some of some of their their picks um to
go over some of the i guess the celebrities that
we had involved or the historians, voice actors,
writers, et cetera, what their number ones were.
So Flint Dilley had Visionary as number one.
Buzz Dixon had Rocky and Bullwinkle. Tom Ruger,
no surprise here, he had Animaniacs as his number
one. We had Keith Scott had Looney Tunes. Greg
Airbar had the Flintstones. And Jerry Beck had
Rocky and Bullwinkle. So those were some of those.
uh votes as far as number ones from from those
folks so let's do a little comparison contrast
from 15 years ago to today so i'm going to give
you a set of shows and i'm going to go through
them fairly try to do it fairly quickly there
was 27 shows that switched so we had 27 that
exited the countdown 27 that entered I'm going
to give you that block and see what you guys
think is the block that we ended up with better
than the block we kicked out. So here's the 27
new shows to the countdown. We have Justice League
Unlimited, Teen Titans, Daria, Archer, Schoolhouse
Rock, The Venture Brothers, Bob's Burgers, Rick
and Morty, Gravity Falls, Kim Possible, Star
Wars Rebels, Adventure Time, Beast Machines,
Robot Chicken. Underdog, Invincible, The Legend
of Korra, Rocko's Modern Life, Wacky Races, Beetlejuice,
X -Men 97, Dragon Ball, Transformers Prime, Invader
Zim, Speed Racer, Hopcat, and Full Metal Alchemist.
Those were all new to the countdown. As far as
the ones that left, Mask, the 2002 He -Man, the
2003 Turtles, She -Ra, Silver Hawks, Bravestar,
Johnny Bravo, Doug, Death Note, Spider -Man and
His Amazing Friends, Captain N, Aladdin, Care
Bears, The Original Spider -Man, Mighty Max,
Static Shock, Arthur, Cops, Harvey Birdman, Where
on Earth is Carmen Sandiego, Mobile Suit Gundam,
Fat Albert, Captain Planet, Hong Kong Phooey,
Swat Cats, Magic School Bus, and Neon Genesis
Evangelion. Just when you hear those two groups,
Mike, do you feel like the 25 that we put in
this time outweigh the 25 that we took out? Thanks
and match. No, can't mix and match. If you had
to take one set of 25 or the other, do you think
we ended up with a better one? I don't know.
That's why I asked. Can we mix and match? Because
some of the ones from the other group are better
than some of the ones from the group we ended
up with. I would argue it's subjective just based
on opinion and what you grew up with because
there's a lot of the shows that... made it in
this time that would have been introduced either
just before or during the time span of the last
top 100 yeah so that would be like yeah we had
justice league archer bob's burgers rick and
morty's gravity falls star wars rebels adventure
time invincible legend of korra x -men 97 and
transformers prime wouldn't have been eligible
yeah so i mean I feel like the original list
of the ones that didn't make the list, I mean,
obviously, I wish I could mix and match between
the two because there's ones that made this list
that I was like, eh. But if I had to choose between
those two, like the ones that left and the ones
that entered, I would go with the ones that entered
because we got a much more diverse group of shows.
We got things that have... More or less resonated
with the public are not forgotten. A lot of the
shows that were that were in the last block from
15 years ago were either even recent as the 90s
or some of them are from, you know, 60s on up.
And. I feel like because there's been so many
new iterations and the scarcity of seeing those
shows now because, I mean, we don't have Saturday
morning cartoons. We don't have Cartoon Network
on cable. We don't have, you know, all of these
things that we had back then that introduced
us to a wider variety of content. Plus, we didn't
have streaming and YouTube where, well, yes,
you can find them. The likelihood of someone
clicking on them unless they grew up with it
is very slim. And yeah, I feel like any of the
things that made the list this time as opposed
to last time, that would that would be why that
they were seen is because they had a more broad
marketing appeal to the more recent generations.
And so I feel like those have stuck around a
little bit better. I think you can make an argument
for the He -Man reboot, the Turtles reboot. I
think you can make an argument for Mobile Suit
Gundam and Genesis Evangelion. I think those
are maybe the ones that you might want to put
in. Maybe Doug. But when you think about the
list that replaced it with stuff like Star Wars
Rebels and Daria and... For me, Archer or, you
know, we added a few other like the original
Dragon Ball and Robot Chicken and the Venture
Brothers. Like, I feel like there's some heavy
hitters that we added. I know one group that
definitely took a beating in the 15 years, and
that was 80s action cartoons. So we probably
had a little bit more biases toward those 15
years ago. But when you're looking at the fact
that when we're talking about the countdown,
you know, G .I. Joe fell to number 28 and. You
know, we talked about some of that, but then
you look at the ones that didn't make it. So
we have Mask that didn't make it, She -Ra, Silverhawks,
Bravestar, Captain N, Care Bears, Cops. All of
those fell to the wayside. So there was definitely
a swinging of the pendulum back away from some
of these 80s action. And I don't necessarily
think it's wrong. Like, yes, a bunch of those
are ones that hold a special heart from a special
spot in my heart. But I do think we've kind of
landed on some of the best of the best that made
it right. Like we got our turtles, we got our
transformers, we got our He -Man, our Thundercats,
our G .I. Joe. And then some of the non -action
ones when you go to like Muppet Babies and Inspector
Gadget and Alvin and the Chipmunks, like some
of those like that kind of stuck around. I'm
not surprised to see some of the likes of Mask
and Cops and Silverhawks and Bravestar not make
it this time around. Mike, any thoughts on the
two lists comparatively? Yeah, I mean, they're
just very, very different. And again, like you
guys have said, it shows the difference in the
time span since we started this 15 years ago
and just how the times have changed. I mean,
like we were talking earlier about what we would
take off and what we would add in. Honestly,
I would probably replace Brendan Stimpy with
mask, you know, like, no, it's not, not for me,
not for me personally. Just saying that some
of the ones that missed it didn't miss it by
that much either. The Turtles would have been
113, Doug would have been 114, Captain N 106,
we have Magic School Bus 102, Evangelion 107,
so even though they didn't make the countdown,
they didn't necessarily fall that far. The ones
that fell far, Bravestar would have been 221st,
and Spider -Man, the original, would have been
231st. Those would have fallen quite significantly.
um other than that but spider -man the original
what year are you talking about i don't i don't
have all that listed there were so many spider
-mans uh yeah so the one we have on here the
one we have on here spider -man 94 that's the
one that counts well we have two we have that
one and we have the uh spectacular spider -man
whereas last time we had last time we had the
original spider -man and spider -man and his
amazing friends so we had a much heavier spider
-man last time than we did this time. But Spider
-Man and his Amazing Friends would have fallen
to 173, Mighty Max 198, Pops 170, Carmen San
Diego 171. So those would have been not as close.
But we did have quite a few that were pretty
close to making it. And we had some that just
missed last time that made it this time. Teen
Titans last time was 104, Dario was 107, Schoolhouse
Rock was tied for 100, Impossible 110, Beast
Machines 106. So all of those were able to just
get enough to kind of bump into the top 100 this
time around. And another thing we did is we kind
of looked through the list and had those revealed
as we did talk some stats and things like that
as far as decades and channels and production
companies. So the final stats on that went as
follows. It was interesting to see, especially
how it progressed over the time. So we had the
2010 to present. It had 10, I believe it was
10 shows total. All of those were in the first
two episodes. So if they were appeared in the
last 15 years, they weren't going to crack the
top 50. They didn't have enough time to do that,
but we did have 10 of them that made it onto
the countdown. Then the 2000s was next with 16
entries. They were spread out pretty evenly.
We had five in the first episode, four. and the
second, four, and the third, and three, and the
last one. So the 2000s were kind of just divvied
up equally amongst the group. 90s, we only had
three of them in the first episode. Then we had
nine in the second, and then 11 in both the third
and the fourth. So they're going to reign supreme
with 34 entries total. 80s was also an interesting
one. Eight in the first episode, only one in
the second, and then seven in the final two.
So they had 22. And then the classics. kind of
evenly spread out five six three and four so
there was 18 of those so 90s reign supreme with
34 then the 80s with 22 then the old classics
with 18 then the 2000s with 16 and then the last
15 years with 10 steve any surprises or did that
go kind of how you expected i mean kind of how
i expected yeah it's yeah i was surprised that
the 90s had an episode where they only had three
and the 80s had an episode where they only had
one just how they're kind of broken down in the
rankings but uh they did obviously reign supreme
but 80s only four more shows in the 80s than
there was in the classics so it was a little
closer than than we had last time that's for
sure and then i know yeah that's different well
i think the difference is we're getting closer
to where and no disrespect to the 80s obviously
i'm an 80s kid but The difference is we're getting
to the point where the 90s is. Obviously, it's
30 years away from where we are now, but it's
going to get closer to the point where it's 40
years away and the 80s is going to be 50 years
away kind of thing. So when the 90s gets to the
point of hitting that 40th anniversary. it's
going to hit nineties kids like Steve, like a
ton of bricks, a lot more. It's kind of like
when the eighties got to the 40th anniversary
of stuff, like right now in 2026, we're celebrating
the 40th anniversary of transformers, the movie,
and it's all, it's hitting all of us like a ton
of bricks kind of thing. So I think that's why
this time around. the 90s reigned supreme and
again like we've mentioned this whole time in
the countdown episodes in the nominee episodes
we had 44 people versus last time where we only
had 20 21 whatever it was i think it was 20 so
we had double the people this time doing so i
think one thing that we've found out through
this countdown is that at least that I think
reveals in the numbers is that 15 years ago,
the classics were already kind of cemented as
the classics, right? So when we're looking to
see like, what's going to these 10 shows that
are going to be entering from the last 15 years,
the likelihood of those taking one of the classic
spots, maybe not as high because they were already
old, right? Like they were already classic. So
like, we're not going to change our opinions
too much on the classics. So for me, those 10
spots have to steal from somebody else. and the
80s makes more sense, I guess, because there
was probably a little bit more biases in there
to steal from the 80s. I don't think you're going
to steal a whole lot from the 2000s because some
of those were just needing a little bit of time,
unless there was a recency bias and somebody
voted on it just because it was current. So I
think it makes sense for those additional shows
to not necessarily take from the classics, but
maybe take more from one of those other time
periods. So eventually you get to the point where
those 18 shows that we included in the... classic
era would probably be relevant and mentioned
almost no matter when we do this and over time
i think that happens to the 80s and the 90s as
well right like the the more the time goes on
i guess you know like a polishing stone or stone
polishing stone or whatever that iron sharpening
iron or whatever you whatever phrase you want
to go like you'll you'll whittle yourself down
to like these are the shows yeah that's one I
haven't heard before, but these are the shows
from the eighties that are like, are just going
to make it no matter what. Right. Like you're
going to have your transformers. You're going
to have your turtles. You're going to have your
duck tails, like whatever those shows are. And
it won't matter when you do this, like those
will appear. And so I think the further you get
away from stuff, maybe the more you end up with
like the best of the best from that era. Yeah.
Yeah. So, um, as far as channels go, obviously
we had more syndicated shows than anything else.
They reign supreme. When it comes to actual channels,
though, I was shocked that ABC was the most represented.
I didn't realize that was a thing. I had no idea
between CBS, NBC and ABC which one had more of
a cartoon presence. But ABC came away with 14
shows. Fox or Fox Kids had 11 and Cartoon Network
had 11 and then down to Nickelodeon and Disney
with eight apiece. Steve, anything surprise you
as far as that goes? No, I mean. I really didn't
expect anything like as far as that. I was more
dialing into the shows. So like, of course, it's
interesting when I hear the metrics on channels
that these actually came from. Yeah. But it's
also like they've all changed so much over the
years because people have bought different ones.
So it's kind of like, what one did that actually
belong to? For sure. No, I totally get that.
And we had five companies that kind of separated
themselves as well. We had Nickelodeon that had
seven shows represented. Marvel had eight, Disney
10, Hanna -Barbera 11, and the WB 12. WB kind
of has a benefit there of not only having some
of those DC shows, but then also having the Animaniacs,
Tiny Toons, Pinky and the Brain, WB shows as
well. So WB edges out Hanna -Barbera by one,
and Hanna -Barbera edged out Disney by one. Mike,
any surprises there? no all right so because
again because again you're you're even though
the reason why it doesn't surprise me is because
wb and hannah barbara were both at the time in
the olden times they were theatrical shorts and
disney when they started doing like the full
-fledged theatrical stuff they shifted their
focus to that like they still did the mickey
shorts and the mickey stuff and the goofy and
then the donald and all that but starting in
37 and going forward the focus was the features
and warner's for the most part for animation
like i don't remember hearing about in the olden
times Full -fledged Warner Brothers animation.
I remember hearing about shorts for Bugs and
Daffy and Porky and everybody. Same thing with,
with Hanna -Barbera. I don't remember, like,
I remember I'm a steely -eyed, blue -eyed stranger.
I remember Huckleberry Hound having like, but
that was, you know, cobbled together kind of
thing. But like, so no, that doesn't surprise
me at all. Because again, that's the classic
era. where Warner Brothers and Hanna -Barbera
are going to edge out Disney on certain things.
Going back just real quick, last thing I want
to just mention on the time period piece, because
that's kind of what we've been talking about.
But the 90s, I think sometimes may get, you know,
you see this list and you see the 90s reign supreme,
you know, quite a few more shows than any other
time period. And you might get some people that
say, you know, 90s nostalgia or what's the age
of the folks involved. and things of that nature
i would say that that's not what happened for
me like yes i will always be an 80s kid and that'll
always be like my generation and then the stuff
that i love to go back to but i don't think 90s
reigning supreme is just a 90s nostalgia thing
or has anything to do with the age of the folks
that were present and taking a part of this poll
the 90s really were unique because Every major
corner of television animation peaked at the
same time. And I'm going to give you guys a rundown.
So you had Disney afternoon reaching its peak
in the nineties. You had Warner brothers having
their television Renaissance in the nineties.
You had Nickelodeon creating Nick tunes in the
nineties. You had cartoon network launching original
programming during this decade. You had Fox redefining
adult animation. You had Marvel television animation
exploding. You had DC creating the animated universe.
And you had anime entering the American mainstream.
No decade before the 90s or since has had all
of those movements happening simultaneously.
So I don't think it's nostalgia. I don't think
it's an age thing. I think it's talking about
a decade that in multiple facets was expanding
and reaching different things. during the 90s
and i don't think that can i don't think anybody
can like really make an argument against that
and i'm just looking at our top 20 hell our top
21 starting with king of the hill going to batman
the animated series in our top 21 of this top
100 there are so many different things and maybe
one or two or maybe 10 of them out of the top
21 might be outside the nineties, but most of
them are inside the nineties in the top 10 alone.
There are one, two, three that I can count without
like actually having to count kind of thing,
uh, that are like designated. technically four
now that i can see south park uh but like designated
90s cartoons that actually start because for
me like turtles i don't count turtles as a 90s
cartoon even though it went into the 90s it started
in 1987 like that's when it started Okay. That
that's how I count something. I don't count something
as a nineties thing. If it started in the previous
decade. Okay. Like the Flintstones started in
the sixties. I don't count it as a seventies
card. You know what I mean? Even though it didn't
last until the seventies, obviously, but like,
you know what I mean? Like, I don't understand
people that will do that. That will say, oh,
well it started. It's a, like if something aired
the first episode. December 31st of 1989 and
then aired all the way up to 1996. Oh, it's a
90s cartoon. No, it's not. It started in the
80s. I still would say that's a 90s cartoon.
Okay, but you know what I mean, though. But you
know what I, you know what, you get what I'm,
you see what I'm saying, though. But like, if
you look at our top 100 countdown this time around,
15th anniversary, 2026 edition, I would say that.
this time around we do have more of a overall
rounded like every era is represented even though
some people might say oh i want just like us
we want this in this number we want this higher
we want this lower it's a really great representation
of of of everything i think Yeah, I think it
goes into some of the arguments that we had or
the debates we talked about. Like, what do you
value? And like some people like myself, you
know, historical foundation or, you know, importance
to like what what they open doors to. I think
we have a good spattering of that, right? We
have the Flintstones and Rocky and Bullwinkle
and Scooby -Doo and Popeye. Obviously, some of
those classic Huckleberry Hound Looney Tunes.
We also have stuff like Space Coast Coast to
Coast, which kind of opened things up for Adult
Swim. And we have Reboot, which was the first
fully CGI television series and things of that
nature. So we have some. historical foundation
shows we have some cultural phenomenon shows
like you know you get into pokemon spongebob
um you get into stuff like south park dragon
ball z family guy sailor moon uh some of those
that are just like you know cultural yeah obviously
our stuff too transformers and turtles and he
-man and gi joe and things like that but they're
just like we're had cultural phenomenons they
became bigger than television right and then
you had shows that like literally changed television
so you think of Simpsons, South Park, those things
changed television. Batman, the animated series
in many ways. You think of Avatar, Animaniacs,
Ren and Stimpy Eye, whatever Mike says, it's
still something that helped change television.
Robot Chicken, things of that nature. You had
superhero animation that got redefined by Batman,
the animated series, X -Men, the animated series,
Justice League, Batman Beyond, Spider -Man, the
animated series, Superman, the animated series,
etc. Children's animation that went to new levels
with a lot of these things. You have shows that
define their generation. So for baby boomers,
you have Looney Tunes, Flintstones, Rocking Bullwinkle,
Yogi Bear, Huckleberry Hound, right? For Gen
X or whatever you want to call it, you have He
-Man, Transformers, G .I. Joe, DuckTales, Scooby
-Doo, Millennials. You have all of the Marvel
and DC things. You have the Animaniacs, Tiny
Toons, Rugrats, Pokemon, Dragon Ball Z, SpongeBob.
And then, you know, for the more modern stuff,
you have stuff like Avatar, Adventure Time, Gravity
Falls, Phineas and Ferb, and Rick and Morty.
You're speaking to a lot of different things.
And another thing that's interesting, and I'll
kind of get your guys' final thoughts, but I
thought it was interesting that if you look across
all of the top 100, it is almost a history of
animated television told through these 100 series.
So if someone watched all 100 shows that we put
on our top 100, they would experience the following
things. The birth of television animation. They
would experience Saturday morning cartoons. They
would experience the rise of the syndicated action
cartoons. They would experience the Disney afternoon
and the Warner Brothers Renaissance. The rise
of Nickelodeon. The originals that came out of
Cartoon Network. Anime's explosion in the West.
Superhero animation's evolution. Rise of adult
animation and some... Really high quality serialized
animation, which kind of changed things across
the industry. So it's not just a ranking of shows.
It really accidentally also tells the story of
how television animation has evolved over nearly
70 years. We planned it the whole time, folks.
We did somehow manage to capture all of that.
Steve, when you look back at kind of what this
list represents, because I think there was a
couple important things that came out. And I
know Dan at one point had said, you know, the
best cartoons of all time. And that's one way
to look at it, right? What are the best cartoons?
I think I have a different approach. I view it
as what are the most important cartoons because
I do put a value in stuff that opened up doors
or had an impact on the industry or different
genres and sub genres, et cetera. So everybody
has a different way of looking at this, but when
you look overall at, you know, this experience
and kind of what we crafted here, with the 100
that we landed on what are your takeaways and
kind of how do you feel about the project overall
i i feel like i i learned something new about
this process every time and and the shows that
are represented just because uh one i i did make
the attempt to watch every single show uh this
time around as opposed to the last time where
i was like i don't know Just because I wanted
to kind of understand it, even if it was like
animation that I hated or I couldn't get into
the art style or the storylines or the voice
acting or, you know, I tried to give all of them
a fair shake of at least three episodes just
to kind of see, you know, what. What the redeeming
qualities are, what the. behind the shows are,
why they're important to animation. Because,
I mean, if you go through this list, say what
you will about any of them. Like, I wouldn't
say it's like the ultimate top 100. No, I would
say it is, as you mentioned, the most memorable
of the animation. And each one of them revolutionized
animation in some different way. Like some of
them brought some specific ounce of something
to the animation sphere. And I mean, if we didn't
have, you know, as it was mentioned, you know,
Tiny Toons and then leading to, you know, animated
Batman, the animated series or, you know, Batman,
the animated series has been kind of the poster
child for every superhero cartoon since. And
they've just one up certain aspects of it. But
each one of these shows. has been not only a
gateway for people getting into animation, but
it's also been something different. Like most
of these, even in the different iterations of
the shows that are represented here, like Dragon
Ball to Dragon Ball Z, they're totally different
styles and tones, but it's the same universe.
You look at Batman, the animated series, and
Superman, and Justice League, and Batman Beyond,
they're all the same universe. different tone
and style to each one of them you know you look
at uh like pretty much any of these shows in
here there's something different to each one
but it's something that causes them to be memorable
and to stand out and i feel like well yes there
are a ton of new cartoons all the time most of
the stuff that's coming out now i don't feel
like has I feel like we hit that that peak in
the 90s and then it's been kind of, you know,
we've had the random hits here or there, you
know, but I feel like that was peak animation.
And now we're kind of like on the downward decline
to where animation is at this like five to six
minute episode thing where it's very low entry.
It's very like placating to trying to get kids
to watch it. But I feel like they've dumbed them
down so much that there's nothing interesting
to the new stuff. Whereas the old stuff, it was
not written totally for kids. It was written
for the people that literally were writing it.
And they hid things in it, yes. But it wasn't
an in -your -face thing that caused the show
to fall apart based on it. But the show persevered
and we ended up with... all of this stuff that
we remember today yeah no i totally agree i i
did throw this into our list overall and the
ai and asked it to you know pressure test us
and tell us how we did and i think it was interesting
the results that it shot back out it said um
it said it could tell or based on the top 100
that voters tried to balance four main criteria
which was historical importance cultural impact
artistic quality and then personal affection
or nostalgia and it says for the most part i
think that succeeded you know batman being number
one tells tells told ai that quality mattered
transformers being in the top 10 told you that
cultural influence and impact mattered flintstones
being in the top 10 you know history mattered
ducktales being in the top five you know nostalgia
and personal affection wasn't ignored said you
know as far as like looking at this overall that
It not only gave us a snapshot of the history
of televisions, but it also made it that there
was an interesting balance between history, artistry,
influence, cultural footprint, nostalgia, and
that it didn't overcorrect or show a bias in
any one particular way. And where it may not
be what some people would say is the best cartoons
list, it is a snapshot of the history of animated
television and more of a consensus. top 100 which
i think is a word that came up multiple times
that we would probably agree with that nobody
got you know uh an extra boost based on one category
or the other it was a more of a consensus look
based on 44 contributors with the various ages
and and experience and things of that nature
so i think we struck a good balance of what could
be seen as a consensus look at like some of the
most important or most relevant cartoons that
have defined a history of animation so i'm pleasantly
surprised with how this uh this went mike any
other thought i think i'm good well that's all
we have if you have more questions about this
countdown and things like that mike will give
you more information on how you can reach out
to us and do stuff like that and and some maybe
some teases along the way mike we got a teaser
for you folks we've been talking behind the scenes
and i did a little math and a little other things
uh around here behind the scenes and i found
out that uh 10 years ago in 2017 because i have
a a master list in a different document because
i keep track of all the top 100s we do and we've
done nine of these as i mentioned earlier in
the show and our 10th top 100 countdown will
be coming up in the summer of 2027 and i looked
at all the ones we did before and in 2017 we
did a top 100 countdown that was very very evil
because we did the top 100 villains and i talked
to steve and i talked to kevin and i'm like what
if we did something heroic let's be heroes And
we talked about it and we talked about it and
we're going to do it in the same way we did this
one. We're going to do nominations like we did
with this. And then where you guys get to vote.
So there'll be nomination episodes and then there'll
be the countdown. So in the summer of 2027 coming
up, the top 100 geek cast radio network, top
100 heroes is coming soon. Anything you'd like
to say, Steve, before I run through the outro?
No, I think I hear a voice or anything. I know
you usually do villains, but. Yeah, I don't have
any heroes off the top of my head right now.
That would be interesting to hear a hero side
of Beast Wars Megatron. Shattered glass. Oh,
yeah. Work on that. oh damn i don't even know
what colors you would be oh wow that that's a
whole idea that's a whole thing for next time
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