Real-World Technology Inspired by Star Trek

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But in this episode of Future Imperfect, as I'm

often joined by my exo, the ever graceful and

the voice of many, many things. Steve Megatron

Phillips. It took me a little while there to

figure out how I was going to introduce you,

but you're my number one. Better than the number

two. No one likes to take a number two. Now that

we've gone down the potty humor for this thing,

we are back here, like I said, on Future Imperfect.

And last time, Steve, we talked about why Star

Trek needs to come back to television with some

fellow people of mine over at thatguywithglasses

.com. That's sci -fi guy and Nick. In this episode,

we're going more down the roundtable format again,

because we do not have a L cars this week, because

it very much ties into our topic. And I don't

have any... replicator stuff, because I'm still

trying to figure things out with the Canadian

border, middle finger to them. I will get replicator

rations. I still want my stuff from ThinkGeek.

I'm working on it. But in this episode of Future

Impert, we're going to talk about technology

in Star Trek that's actually starting to come

a reality here in good old reality. And there's

some pretty cool things. That I've learned about

this. I know Steve has told me about things like

the transparent Aluminum, but one of the things

I've been doing is watching a thing on Netflix

It's probably available in the states too called

TED Talks. You can also find these on YouTube

and Just seeing all the advances that are being

made in space travel and computers and medical

sciences We live in a very exciting time. Although

we're probably a little bit closer to first contact

as opposed to enterprise in terms of technology

stuff, we are still doing some incredible things

with technology. So Steve, where do we want to

start off this discussion of tech trek? Well,

I think that we should start out with the computer

systems. Yeah, I mean there I can't remember

who said it but I think it's Murphy's law or

something like that that says computers get better

every six months and That seems to be increasing

more and more every day It's almost but it's

how you buy a computer get it back to your house

and set up. It's obsolete. I Mean, oh, yeah.

I mean look at any of the alienware computers

to see that in action One of the interesting

things and I was watching this Via a telven series

that's produced by the history channel called

the universe which I cannot recommend that show

enough Go over to the history channels website

and check that series out and they were talking

about quantum computing and Quantum computing

I I'm trying to figure how the hell do I explain

this? It uses quantum mechanical Phenomena and

quantum entanglement, and I know I'm throwing

a lot of big words around right now But they're

different from regular computers in the fact

that computers use transistors. And what this

thing does is it changes data from bits into

quantum qubits, if you will. And it's, you know,

the theory is so. fucking complicated to explain.

I'm not even sure I understand it. But if we

can get quantum computing to work, at the far

end of the spectrum, this would mean we could

communicate with anywhere in the universe instantaneously.

Because the molecules and everything else are

literally already there. It's really weird. It's

almost like the universe is in two places at

once and that's how quantum computing breaks

down I mean, it's I Wish I could explain it better

than what I am right now But if you look at what

quantum computing could in theory accomplish

look at Star Trek and the best example of this

is the transporter Technology think about the

vast computer resources that would be necessary

to store a person's biomechanical pattern, right

down to every molecule and atom in your body,

right down to the subatomic structures. And that

computer power is something in a level the human

mind really can't even comprehend, but we're

getting computers that are smarter and smarter

every day. I mean, not true AI, but computers

are starting to learn on the intelligence level

of a cockroach. Think about where we were 20

years ago. So yeah, so there was not a whole

lot of anything Even mobile phones were not even

a thing. Yeah, I mean they were but they were

not actually mobile I mean, it's ridiculous to

see when you see how much things are coming along

and I can't remember who said this to me, but

they think They said civilian technology is about

five to ten years behind the military Imagine

what the military has right now in terms of computers

and computational ability because I remember

the Air Force Was doing this a couple years ago.

They slaved together 20 ps3s To do a bunch of

computational work and it all got fucked over

because of a firmware update. Oh nice Yeah, because

they because they were all running Linux and

then when Sony said we don't want you to do that

anymore It's screwed over a chunk of the US Air

Force, but With the advances in technology, we

can use more advanced telescopes because they're

crunching data. For example, the Kepler telescope,

which is the telescope that's currently looking

in the universe for other sources of planets.

And how it does that, it looks for a slight dimming

when a planet passes in front of a star. And

they can even tell you what the atmosphere is

made of by looking at its spectrometer. which

basically measures what kind of gases are there,

what the planet's likely to be made of, what

its cores made out of. And it's really fantastic

time for space travel in terms of computers as

well. Because when you think about how powerful

the computers were to go to the moon, your average

pocket calculator could technically calculate

the Apollo missions. Yeah. I'm just a gnoll -o

-gium of this weird, stupid shit, aren't I, Steve?

Oh, yeah. Because it's so funny. Like I said,

watching the right television shows, you gain

such an appreciation for the technology that

Star Trek has really inspired. I mean, I look

at astrometrics from Star Trek Voyager and Star

Trek The Next Generation, where they talk about

exploring the galaxy. That's always something

I've been very into. And looking at the different

telescopes, what the International Space Station

can accomplish, the different probes that are

going out there. There's one TED talk, I can't

remember who did it, but it's like the first

five of them. They talk about exploring Europa

with a robotic probe that's nuclear powered that

can explore the under ocean of the ice sheet

there and eventually come back to the surface

and fly back. That's... pretty impressive, and

in Star Trek they have probes like that, that

can go into, for example, the Bajoran wormhole,

or go in front of the Enterprise, or whatever

ships that are out there, gather scientific data

and bring it back. That's incredible, the fact

that we are starting to really find out what's

out there. And another interesting thing about

Trek is Voyager 1 - I think it's Voyager 1, is

just entering a new realm of the solar system.

And it's going to cross into the interstellar

medium relatively soon, relatively being in the

next, I don't know, five, 10 years, I think.

But it's where the solar wind from our sun no

longer affects it. Think about that. That's one

of the furthest man -made objects. In the history

of civilization, there's another one called Pioneer

10, or was it Mercury 10? I can't remember which

one. But it stopped transmitting, like, ten years

ago. And it's probably in the Helo sheath right

now, which is also known as the Kuiper Belt.

If I'm not mistaken, I could very well be wrong.

Mike at This Weekend Geek done that if you want

to bitch at me. So yeah, Steve, I've been rattling

off for about ten minutes here. Tell me you got

something. Well, actually there's a lot of stuff

that's been inspired by Star Trek. For instance,

the Star Trek pad, which is their personal access

display device, which it directly inspired the

futurized iPad and iPhone. And actually I would

argue that because of Star Trek and some of these

technologies like that We're actually becoming

more advanced than some of the ideas originally

thought of in the show Well, yeah, I mean just

the fact that we have tablet computing and smartphones

I mean we basically carry a small computer with

us. I mean I have an iPhone 4s This thing has

a built -in compass it can Talk to me because

I have Siri, which is not a true AI, not even

a VI. But it's still it's still vocal recognition,

which is also something from Star Trek. Absolutely.

I mean, if you remember the scene from Star Trek

4 where Scotty's talking to the computer. Yeah.

And that's one of my favorite scenes. Like you

have to use a keyboard. How quaint. It's just

amazing how far mobile computing has come. I

mean, even to go a little bit further, they actually

have, like in some of the Star Trek series, they

have communicator badges, which you can just

tap and talk to the ship. They have ones like

that that can work inside of buildings. And they

actually have medical app. applications for doctors

so they can talk to each other or if they want

to wear it on the lapel of their jacket, stuff

like that. That's pretty cool. I can't wait till

cell phones are that small. Oh, yeah. Well, I

mean, and that's another thing, too. I mean,

the the handheld communicator in the show directly

inspired the flip cell phone. Which is just amazing,

because think about how. quaint flip phones are

now i mean i can't think of any that still exist

really there's a few flip phones that still exist

but most of the the market is in the smartphone

Yeah, and that's basically your like your your

iPhones your Sam your like galaxies or anything

powered by like Android basically and You look

at all the tablet PCs now. I mean, I think it's

New York's JFK Airport They give you a complimentary

a complimentary iPad while you're waiting in

the terminal So you can like screw around and

do whatever you want. I remember reading that

and I know We talked about this on nerd news

before we can match over on this week in geek

how the airlines wanted to train their Pilots

and their stewardesses and whoever else was involved

in maintenance of the aircraft instead of printing

off these giant manuals here Here here is on

an iPad with your thing. It's saves a tree mind

you Slave conditions in the factory, but we're

not talking about that today. Um Man we can almost

do an entire show on the economy of Star Trek,

which is weird But yeah, I mean It's really neat

the fact that we do have things like this out

there and the technology continues to get better

Literally day by day. I mean thinking about some

of the algorithms in Star Trek For searching.

I mean think about when you ask the computer

Can you find me something by so -and -so and

it just comes up basically? I think Star Trek

predicted Google in some ways because you can

type almost anything into Google and as long

as a Couple of keywords you'll find it yeah,

and in a sense that kind of takes care of some

of the other stuff like they actually have a

Kind of prototype Universal translator They have,

like, Uhura's communication earpiece, which is

much more sleek and designed much better as the

Bluetooth headset. There's so many new applications.

I mean, they've even got something now that they

nicknamed Jordy for Joint Optical Reflective

Display, which allows blind people to be able

to see low vision but it's still a step in that

direction yeah I think it's something like 20

slash 80 for the vision which means you can see

a billboard but you wouldn't pass your driving

test but no it can magnify objects up to 50 times

I believe it said wow that's You know, that's

something else to talk about, because in Star

Trek, they talk about people having cybernetic

replacements. There's one episode of DS9 in the

first season, where a girl comes from a low -gravity

planet, and they have to give her this exoskeleton

to walk. And they do have civilian exoskeletons,

they even have military exoskeletons for people

to walk around, or to move heavy objects. I mean...

Cybernetics in Star Trek, I mean, let's look

at Geordi. Picard has an artificial heart, for

example. And there's just the medical advances

for Star Trek. And you know what's weird? I found

out the hypospray predates Star Trek. Yeah, I

actually found that out too while reading up

on this. And it just uses high pressure air to

put the vaccine into you because you don't have

to deal with a needle thus less chance of cross

-contamination or infection by the attending

doctor. Yeah, they've been using that in the

military for years, I guess. I mean, that's fucking

cool. I mean, there's even this thing right now.

I can't remember specifically what it's called,

but it uses electrical impulses and it helps

skin regenerate faster. That's cool. That's incredible.

I mean you can use that for burn victims. Hell

we can I mean there's even talk of us being able

to use parts of ourselves to clone new body parts.

I mean that's our thing too. I mean look at Star

Trek. I mean unfortunately Khan and the genetic

Superman is a very bad thing. But look at the

advances we've made in genetics. I mean we know

what the baby is. We can change characteristics

about The baby, I mean that's pretty nuts. I

mean we have cloned animals walking around Right

now Like they've in you mentioned earlier. I

did found it find it at one point on Twitter.

It's somewhere that Overseas on the other side

of the pond they Developed some aluminum that

can Albeit for not very, very long, it becomes

transparent like in Star Trek 4. Really? Yes.

It's very thin and they can't keep the structure

for very long, but they can do it. What are some

of the applications of that? Well, I mean, think

about it. If you can make metal transparent,

you could do it with glass. Yeah, I mean, that's...

Think of the military applications for that.

You've made something lighter. It's bulletproof.

Yeah, it's bulletproof. That's Pretty impressive

too. And that's our thing too. We can develop

ceramic armors much like the Much like the a

blade of armor that we've seen in Star Trek.

I mean, I'm not saying, you know, it's just gonna

appear like in Star Trek, but the idea is the

same. It takes the hit, absorbs the shock, and

dissipates, basically shattering what's absorbed

some of the impact. Cloaking fields. I remember

talking about this on Twig. They've actually

invented the invisibility cloak from Harry Potter.

I mean, it bends light around you. I don't know

if you look like the Predator or anything like

that. I've seen two different iterations of this.

There's one where it shows somebody wearing like

this greenish suit and you can see the people

on the other side and everything. I've also seen

where they've used various cameras and made it

appear that the vehicle or whatever it is has

disappeared because it takes images of the other

side of the surroundings. And it just completely

Disappears or can you see it if you knew what

you were looking for? It's Damn near impossible

to figure it out. I was watching videos on some

of it. They're actually I was also reading that

in recent trials they have made a vehicle completely

disappear and Predicted that an invisible tank

would be ready for service by 2012 that's fucking

nuts when you think about this and and and imagine

applying this technology as more or less this

is your cloaking field i mean i probably wouldn't

hide all of the energy emissions but still that's

that's i'm sure it'd be hot as hell but but just

the fact that we have something like that and

of course you know the military will have this.

They even have directed energy weapons right

now, which they're talking about fielding, using

high intensity microwaves. Not quite a phaser,

but not far off either. Well, actually, they're

speaking of which I did find another article

where they actually have something that they

prototyped, called it a phaser. And it does very

similar. It's just, I mean, again, it's with

low -intensity lasers designed to temporarily

blind the enemy, but the concept still applies.

I mean, one of the other things about Star Trek

technology is, well... I mean, it obviously helps

space exploration. It does medical stuff. It

even has military applications. One of the things

to talk about is the world of entertainment.

Earlier this year, we saw the holodeck partially

come to life. With Tupac, of all people. Yeah,

there was a concert where they had a fully interactive

hologram. of Tupac and they said they said they

took something like two years to make this thing

work but it looked damned real when when you

saw it on the stage performing with I'm not entirely

sure who but I forget I just saw Tupac hologram

what um and they're talking about doing it with

like Elvis and members of the Beatles who have

passed away I mean I've read Microsoft's actually

working on an actual working holodeck. That would

be ridiculously impossible given our technology,

but it wouldn't surprise me. I mean, I think

if you paired Microsoft and Apple together, who

knows? I mean, I'd love to see them do something

more with their Connect gaming system because

there still isn't a killer app for that But what

I mean is I mean if we can integrate things like

the hollow like like holograms Can you imagine

what this would mean for movies or? stage shows

Well for one they wouldn't need the physical

actors Well, I think it would add something to

it. I mean, imagine having a stage... Or, you

know, for instance, they could use a hologram

to actually show things that aren't there, that

they have a dummy model. Like for instance, you

know, you have some weird alien animal or you've

got, you know, for instance, a transformer. You've

got something to look at. Yeah, and then you

can actually react to it realistically or this

changes the world of theater. Imagine, I mean,

this is obviously thinking high concept, but

imagine what you could do in live performances.

Imagine how Broadway would change if you could

have holograms on stage. You could literally

have Transformers the musical. Because you could

have the big interactive holograms. Or you could

do more special effects and overlay them over

top of people with the hologram. Oh, man, I never

even thought about that. You could make the Terminator

play. If you wanted to, I mean, there's so many

neat things that Star Trek really has made people

start to think about. I mean, honestly, it's

a really exciting time to be alive because we're

seeing all these things come together. I mean,

one of the technologies that I just found out

about is NASA technically has something lighter,

not not NASA. They actually have a technology

called optical tweezers. And what this is, it's

small lasers that are capable of manipulating

molecules and moving them with a fair degree

of precision. And scientists can use this to

study the physical properties of DNA. That is

fucking cool. Think about all the medical applications

of this. I mean, just being able to pick apart

cells and eventually seeing deeper into, I don't

know, whatever's next, I guess. I mean, because

Like quantum physics and all that shit and just

I don't know I mean I think that's a really neat

tech that you know We're on the cusp of maybe

applying that to other things because if we can

move something that small It means bigger things

are possible I'm not sure what the real applications

might be of a tractor beam I guess around or

well, I guess if you wanted to move Maybe if

there was an oncoming asteroid to Earth, you

could push it out of the way. Which that brings

up another thing, which I don't know whether

these guys were inspired by Star Trek. It certainly

seems like something out of Star Trek or hardcore

sci -fi. The people from Google and a few other

places, I think James Cameron, want to bring

an asteroid into the orbit of Earth and mine

the shit out of it. Have you heard this, Steve?

Have you heard of this particular project? Um.

No. Yeah, it was in the news a couple of months

ago. And what they want to do is start asteroid

mining, which isn't a bad idea, because you could

find all sorts of rare minerals out there. Well,

and let's face it, we are running out of things

on our own planet. Yeah. I mean, we can find

new new sources of metal, rare metals, like,

say, platinum, gold. There could be diamonds

out there and new sources of fresh water. That's

another thing to consider as well, if we were

to bring one of these asteroids in the close

orbit. Well, and speaking of that, it kind of

ties in with the transporter technology. In today's

age, they've actually created subatomic teleportation.

Yeah, like they can move stuff across a room,

more or less. They've successfully teleported

information between atoms that were roughly a

meter apart, but that's still, you know, it's...

They have to pinpoint the exact location of every

atom in order to get it correct. So, I mean,

they're on the right track. It's very much the

infancy of it. Now, there was a technology and

I can't remember. I think it's... I can't remember.

It was called something like the Heisenberg Compensator

in the Transporter, where it makes up for that

random element in Transporter tech. And I know

we talked about this in Star Trek versus Star

Wars, where I brought up the ethical implications

of Transporter. Is it really just high tech murder?

Which, you know, as you would have seen in relics,

you know, they... where Scotty and the other

guys stored themselves inside the pattern buffer

and the other guys pattern buffer degraded. And

so essentially it killed him within the transporter

buffer, whereas Scotty was able to get out. Yeah,

I mean, technically we could have saved him with

some fancy writing. But you can say that for

any piece of fiction. Basically, it's whoever

the author wants to win or live. McGuffin. Yeah,

exactly. Oh, tragic. He died. We'll solve that

next week. But I'm trying to think of other technologies

that have really impressed me in Star Trek. I

mean, I think I'm most interested in cybernetics,

like we did talk about, like the thing that helps

people see the... the bionic eyes, they have

artificial limbs that may even include the sensation

of touch. Well they have, just like in Star Trek,

they have scalpel -free surgery with ultrasound

surgery. Oh yeah, then they can use lasers and

stuff, I mean, technically body sculpting, when

you think of that, stuff like liposuction. You

have to wonder, was part of that inspired by

Star Trek or people being able to re -sculpt

their entire bodies from being, you know, terribly

overweight to being able to successfully get

rid of type 2 diabetes, stuff like that. I mean,

the advanced surgeries of Star Trek, look at

how many lives they save. I mean, like I said,

artificial technologies like eyes, hearts. Well,

and they've practically killed cancer and most

diseases. Yeah, I mean, that's something I think

I mean, obviously, that's the big goal of medical

science right now is to stop cancers and stuff

like that and even figure out how people can

live in theory forever if we can figure out the

gene sequence that controls aging. That's a scary

thought, though, when you think about if people

were to just stop dying. I mean, look at Torchwood

Miracle Day for examples of this. Well, I could

see them slowing it down, but I can't see them.

Making it near impossible to die. I think what

it comes down to it's Replacing the cells that

eventually become cancerous and that's why they

died. They've kind of got it figured out in mice

But if you stop breeding then you slow down the

population and genetic diversity and well, it's

a whole other ethical Subsection of this too.

And that's another thing too to look at some

of these Technologies are there any technologies

from Star Trek that we shouldn't maybe mess with?

Um, I mean at the same time I like the idea of

nanotechnology But I don't because that could

so go the other way, you know, it's funny there

actually is a scenario it's called an end -of

-the -world scenario called gray goo and What

the gray goo scenario proposes and some scientists

take this legitimately pretty seriously is that

the self replicating nanomachines will malfunction

and continue to consume And when they do, Earth

would become a big ball of grey goo. And I know

in certain Star Trek universe, or in certain

sci -fi universes, rather, they've banned nanotech.

Because it could go terribly, terribly wrong.

Or in Mass Effect, for example, they take advantage,

or they ban AIs. Because they feel what could

happen with the geth. and, you know, the machines

revolting against their masters and looking at

someone like, say, Data, what happens when we

achieve the singularity and the machine says,

I think, therefore, I am? Well, like iRobot.

Yeah, I mean, what happens? I mean, how do you

recognize artificial life? How do you legislate

artificial life? Well, and then they had to go

through that again in Star Trek with Data because,

I mean, it's... That's a whole nother can of

worms, though. Yeah, and that's something else

that I think I like that Star Trek occasionally

brings up is technology and ethics I mean, I

think they've tackled cloning on the show where

someone dies. They just clone them back With

with the memories they had up until that point

and I know there's I know I've seen this on Wikipedia

And I think people are seriously talking about

it is something called brain taping Which takes

a snapshot of your brain at a specific moment

in time with all your memories and everything

and you could in theory upload that into a clone

body Mind you this technology is way off, but

you look at stuff like Cryogenics, which they've

talked about in Star Trek being frozen in suspended

animation. We've seen it in sci -fi franches

like God, I can't believe I'm gonna be saying

this demolition man to be one of them. Look at

something like aliens worth the whole um kind

of hyper sleep and there's something we haven't

even talked about is warp drive which they say

is theoretically possible just the power restraints

or the power needs are Astronomical as to not

even be possible, but the math supports it so

I don't know I guess I am I'm very excited to

see where technology will go. I'm just I hope

our reach doesn't extend our grasp if you get

where I'm going with that. Well, yeah. And one

one final thing I want to bring up as far as

like tech, there's actually a site where they're

trying to actually build the USS Enterprise,

the ship. It's build the enterprise dot org.

Which I'll drop in your Skype window. And they

have an entire plan. They've got scientific stuff

to back everything up. They've got just all different

possible methods of getting this starship built

within the next 20 years. It's really fascinating

if you go through the site and look at it. I

just don't know how the hell they're going to

get that off Earth because of weight and thrust.

restrictions, but, uh, damn. I would be mighty

interested to see this happen, though. I think

we should get a guy from this on our show. Yeah,

most definitely. In fact, I'm going to write

that email later tonight. But, I mean, we see

so many technical advances made every day and

we see them in sci -fi being portrayed in fantastic

and wonderful ways. Think about this. The world

we live in today was science fiction 50 years

ago. Can you imagine what the world's going to

be like in another 50 years? Yeah, I know. That's

such a strange concept. And I really hope we

master some of these Star Trek technologies.

Like, I want more than anything, I want two aspects

of Star Trek to come through. I want the space

technology, basically the exploration part of

it, to come true. Are we ever going to leave

the solar system in my lifetime? Or or do warp

speed? Yeah, I mean I want to see what's out

there and it makes me so Depressed and sad literally

I'll wake up in the middle of the night and I

will get really depressed when I think about

I will never see the worlds that they see on

Star Trek and I know that seems like such a Trivial

thing, but when you watch television shows like

Star Trek or that show I was talking about earlier

Annie's the universe you see the science of basically

creation and seeing all these wonderful spatial

anomalies and phenomena and just you know being

able to see a supernova or a magnetar pulsar

um a blazar galaxy i just said a lot of ours

there um but there's just so many things out

there that make me really sad that i'll probably

never see with my own eyes or medical technology

to be able to Pat someone up with, like, a little

device that heals skin, or being able to give

someone an injection that cures cancer, or diabetes,

or God knows what. It's... It's really cool.

And I wish I had a more enlightening phrase to

say other than that's cool. Or more of the say

than it's exciting. But... Looking at Star Trek...

It really makes me think that we're going to

accomplish some great things. Oh, yeah. So guys,

we're going to leave it here on Star Trek's Future

Imperfect. Like I said, we will be back in about

two to three weeks. And on our next show in the

month of July, we're going to be taking on our

first alien race. The ones are going to be making

first contact with here on Future Imperfect.

We're going to be talking about the Klingon Empire.

We're going to be talking about Klingons everywhere,

either in the series or in real life. Yes, there

are people who think they're Klingons, and hopefully

I'll find a Klingon language expert to maybe

give me and Steve a lesson in good old Klingon.

And even if there's like a particular phrase

or something that you really love that's in Klingon,

send us a voicemail. Yeah, absolutely. And our

voicemail line is 817 -717 -7202. Also, Starfleet

will be attending Polaris in Toronto in just

a few weeks. I understand Will Wheaton's gonna

be there, as well as Toronto's Fan Expo at the

end of August, which will include the reunion

of all the Star Trek The Next Generation cast,

so be sure to be checking that out. Hopefully,

we will have people there on the ground to cover

that. And, well, like I said, guys, we'll be

back in two to three weeks talking about Klingons.

Hopefully, by then, we will... have more L cars

and more stuff from the replicator because I

know we've been promising that for a couple of

shows but you know how it is dealing with these

Ferengi. So guys until next time we have been

Steve Megatron Phillips and I've been Mike the

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