Star Trek Discovery and The Road So Far…

Hi, this is John Delancey, and you are listening

to the Geekcast Radio Network. Hello, and welcome

to Future Imperfect, the first episode of 2019.

I am joined with Captain Dodd. That's right.

I have returned from places unknown from the...

I can't even remember how they pronounce it.

The weird mushroom place. That's where I've been.

The mycelial network. That's it. The mycelial

network, which is such a weird idea and yet such

a cool one at the same time. Well, somebody was

doing mushrooms when they thought up the idea,

so... Clearly. No, I'm just joking. But you don't

know at the same time. I don't. I don't. I find

it humorous either way. So we've had... almost

half a season of Discovery since it's come back

for season two. Yeah, and I guess this episode

of Future Imperfect is going to be our season

two report cards so far. What's worked, what

hasn't worked, and just basically how the series

is working as a whole now that we've had a season

and a half, more or less, of full Trek so far.

How many episodes are proposed to be in this

season? I think 15. 15? Okay, so that's not so

bad. Which isn't too bad. I mean, I think it's

better than last season. I think last season

it had 13, maybe? I could be wrong on that count,

but I am enjoying Season 2 much more than I enjoyed

Season 1. Yeah, I will say it's definitely sucked

me in a lot more this season. Definitely enjoying

a lot of the performances a lot more than I did

the first. The first season seemed to, I would

argue, almost drag out at times. Like, it took

two or three episodes to get going. This one

doesn't bore you with the preamble. I mean, yeah,

it takes a little while for the whole Red Angel

thing to kind of reveal what it's supposed to

be. And then there's all the different subplots

going out through all the different episodes.

But I've been pleasantly surprised so far. The

last episode was just aired, well, as of this

recording two weeks ago, where they introduced

the Talosians and how they tie that into the

original series. I thought that was kind of a

neat callback, even though continuity -wise it

doesn't totally line up. But you know what? Whatever.

It takes place, I think, three years after the

cage or five years or something like that. yeah

but at the same time when pike is there he's

supposed to be in like a wheelchair and and on

advanced life support and he decides to stay

behind even though he knows it's bullshit actually

i don't know whether i totally buy that no you're

you're actually incorrect um okay that doesn't

that does not happen until later oh okay um this

this takes place during pike's five -year mission

on the Enterprise. When he met the Telosians

the first time with Spock and met Veena and everything

else. Which is actually the original pilot, The

Cage. Which they did eventually release the entire

episode. Later on, it was like a remaster in

the 70s. They came out with it. Gene Roddenberry

released it. And some pieces are black and white,

some pieces are... color because of the way it

was shot. And the parts that were in color were

from the Menagerie, which is the episode that

recycled the cage episode where he's in the Menagerie.

It takes place basically 10 years after Pike

met the Talosians the first time. So at some

point between this part in Discovery and Captain

Kirk taking command of the Enterprise, Pike gets

his life debilitating injury. And so, just basing

on how this series runs, I have an inkling of

a feeling that they're going to put Pike in the

chair by the end of the season. Probably, which

is unfortunate because I really like Pike. I

was reading a couple of reviews of the season

overall, and it seems like Pike is pretty much...

One of the happiest guys in this crew. Have you

noticed everybody has a tragic backstory in some

way and or form, except for Pike? He's like,

hey, I'm a go -get -em kind of guy. Everybody

else is my childhood sucks or my parents are

dead or some variation thereof. Well, I think

it's because they're bringing in the levity of

the original series in that, with season two.

And I think also because Pike... has this this

different outlook on life whereas the other ones

and he's also like kind of damaged in the sense

that they they added in the fact that you know

he missed out on the the war and so he's a little

like butthurt he wasn't involved with the enterprise

um but the same token like he was doing his own

thing and that's why we didn't see any of the

constitution class starships like blowing the

crap out of the klingons um And so, like, I don't

know. I do like the fact that we did get to see

the original series uniforms from anybody that

comes from the Enterprise, although I was sad

to see that they changed into the Discovery uniforms

just because it was kind of a nice nod having

it. But it's a Constitution class uniform from

what I've gathered as far as that. But no, I

mean, I agree with you on Pike. I think that

he's very. uh uplifting he's wanting to give

people the benefit of the doubt he's he's more

of a uh kind of like diplomatic in the sense

of like picard but like he has no uh he's very

like underbound in the sense of like cisco or

janeway where he's like i i will not leave a

you know fellow starfleet or behind i i will

you know i'll do what's necessary and uh So,

I mean, it's kind of a nice touch and a polar

opposite of what we got with Lorca. One of the

relationships I'm enjoying a lot this season

is Tilly and Stamets. I just like their chemistry,

how they play off. In fact, Tilly's probably

in my top five characters in the franchise right

now. And that's across everything. I'm really

surprised how much she's kind of grown on me,

especially when she meets the creature from the

mic. my cereal, whatever the fuck it is, uh,

network, uh, that weird blob thing and how it

ties to her memory of someone she knew growing

up and how they're basically besties more or

less. And I like how it draws upon her memories.

And just the thing is like, I made you a promise.

I will help you sort of thing. And I'll come

across universes to help me or help you. Should

you need me again? And I, I just thought that

was really neat. And just a lot of. Little character

moments that I'm thoroughly enjoying this season.

One of the other things I enjoy is Stamets and

having the Dr. Hugh. Colbert. Yeah, Colbert come

back. And how he's like, yeah, the one you knew

is dead. I'm different and you're going to have

to let me go again. And I was thinking, wow,

that's some drama. I'm signing up for that. Give

me more of that. I don't like seeing romances

destroyed, but I'm hoping they can come back

together at some point because I think they're

a wonderful couple. And when you thought he was

going to die in the other universe, I was like,

oh, man, they're going to kill him again. That

sucks. And then he comes back to our universe

and he's kind of this lost. person basically

out of time out of place like i shouldn't be

here but now i have my own life to live yet again

so yeah i mean it's kind of interesting but it's

it's kind of reminiscent of of the all the other

track series for the most part other than the

original series because um you know you look

at tng you had reicher and troy were kind of

on and off again um And, you know, they would

each date different people throughout the series.

And so, you know, and then so it kind of changed

the dynamic. But yet, ultimately, it didn't matter

because they ended up back together. And, you

know, you had instances like that in DS9 and

Voyager as well. And so it's kind of a it's kind

of that dynamic that, you know, something's going

to happen either by the end of the season or

by like sometime in the next season. if they

still have the same cast. It's hard to say because

I think that with Arium being infected with whatever

the hell that virus thing was when Pike and Ash

Tyler were on the shuttlecraft, I think that

they're going to more or less outlaw androids

on starships until data. So it'll be like the,

you know, cause like she's kind of a weird cyborg

type of thing. And I can't really explain it.

Cause like she's an Android, but she is because

data is supposedly the first, you know, official

Android, or maybe he's the first human humanoid

looking Android with a positive. Maybe, maybe

he's the first true Android. Like he's the first

true AI. Whereas maybe she's more of a cyborg

as opposed to an Android. Maybe there's more

meat. as opposed to cybernetics, so it's hard

to say. Which could be, but I'm thinking that

they're going to end up offing her if they can't

save her. It's really hard to say because at

one instance they can throw a character to the

wind and destroy them and remove them and then

at the same time bring them back. So it's really

odd at this point because we've had a couple

of close calls with other characters, whether

it be Spock. Saru. Saru. And I think Arium might

go by the wayside because they're going to have

Spock on their crew now temporarily. So I'm thinking

they may off Arium in that aspect. But I do like

how some of the characters are starting to get

more of, you know, an upfront role in the series.

Yeah, like they're getting more screen time,

more presence there. are actually starting to

develop on screen. I'm actually starting to feel

something for this cast, something I didn't get

a lot of last season. The characters I connected

with the most was Stamets and Tilly and obviously

Burnham. Anybody else, it was kind of, I don't

know, kind of, sort of. Same boat. This season,

things are starting to develop. We're finally

starting to get a feel for this, guys. I think

Discovery is finally starting to hit. um where

it's supposed to in fact i i'm part of a number

of different threads about this on facebook and

uh my friend justin uh one of the game masters

over at terrible warriors has said uh said something

along the lines of if i was going to show someone

star trek i'd start them on discovery and move

them forward and I got to thinking about that

the other day, thinking, you know what, that's

not bad, because you look at how differently

the series were. They're definitely representative

of television and its storytelling medium at

its time. One of the things that I definitely

noticed with this, and this is something that's

very unique, my wife hates Star Trek The Next

Generation, hates Voyager, hates the 90s Treks,

right? Yet with Discovery, she's like, you know

what, this ain't so bad. And I look at just how

the storytelling medium has evolved, although

we could do with about 100 % less lens flares,

but whatever. Outside of that, the storytelling

medium in Discovery has really evolved. They

really have a good team of writers, a good team

of directors, cinematographers. It seems like

less a show on a boat. because that's what Star

Trek, I used to describe it as. It was basically,

it's on a submarine, but there happens to be

aliens. In this Star Trek discovery, it seems

less military -ish, even though they are on a

science slash military vessel. It doesn't, it's

Trek, but it's not, if that makes any kind of

sense to you. Yeah, I mean. It's modern Trek.

Yeah. And, you know, I, I totally get that. I

do. And it's, I could see where showing somebody

now this series would draw them into the other

series because you would want to know the lore.

And in order to understand the rest of the franchise,

you know, how this franchise and the other franchise,

you know, all the other series tie together,

you would want to watch more. even if it's not

the same production value. Yeah, this is a good

jumping -on point where you don't need to be

so steeped in lore, where, sure, if you know

it, it's nice, but if you don't, you don't have

to. That's one thing I found out, too. Watching

Discovery Season 2 is very welcoming to a new

watcher. Sure, it helps to have seen the first

season, but you really kind of don't need to.

in the grand scheme of things, at least in my

opinion. Sure, it helps to know the characters,

but with Season 2, you've got a clean new slate.

There's the new threats established right out

of the door, and it's weird, but it's not so

weird you can't understand it. You're not dealing

with the Klingon politics. You're not dealing

with them ranting and raving about T 'Kuvma and

the 24 great houses of the Klingon Empire. Basically,

all the Klingon bullshit is more or less dealt

with by, like, Episode 3. Which I'm kind of surprised.

They showed severed heads. I'm really surprised.

Well, it is CBS, and they do use the F -bomb.

Yeah, I was like, wow, you just showed a severed

baby head. That's pretty freaking hardcore, even

for me. Well, did you see the thing, though,

that the baby was albino as well? I did, and

now he's going to live with some random monks

the rest of his life. Do you know that that is

a callback to DS9, where there's an albino Klingon

that doesn't associate with the regular Klingons

and lives secluded? I did not know that. Yeah,

and so they purposely basically tied it in because

there's really no future history on that, either

character, and so I think that they've kind of

connected the dots there. to give it some grounding

of, you know, because it was an elderly, like,

albino Klingon. How long do Klingons live? Well,

considering... Human age? Well, no, they live,

like, Vulcan age. Okay, so a couple hundred years.

Yeah, so, like, you know, you get Kor, Kang,

and Koloth, which were, you know, Kirk's adversaries.

They were in DS9. Oh, okay. So, I mean, it's

kind of... And Curzon Dax, or the symbiote anyway,

had dealings with them in the 23rd century too.

So who knows, we may see Dax show up at some

point during the show. That'd be neat. Because

clearly the symbiote was alive then. Some of

the things that I predicted a while back that

I have fun going back to from some of my predictions.

I predicted that Culver was going to be revived

and healed via the sport network. Yep. And that

the, you know, that the fact that Tyler, the

hybrid human thing with the Klingon, the sport

drive will be destroyed slash deemed too dangerous

to return when they came back from the prime

universe or to the prime universe. And, you know,

they've used it like once this season and then

it was broken because Arium. So I think that

they're going to start working on transwarp technology

next at some point, like start working on it

because remember Excelsior is the first ship

that had it, but you know, there's like 20, 30

years until that point. So exactly. They got

plenty of time for experimentation, stuff like

that. One of the things I'm liking as well with

the predictions when they brought back Culber,

I'm really happy. that we're getting a representation

of ptsd because that's basically what he's gone

through oh yeah totally and i do like how he's

essentially a new character now yet we can have

the same actor portraying him i think that's

kind of neat well he was kind of hollow before

that like he was very robotic and and you cared

about him but there really wasn't really wasn't

any like meat to the character until he had his

nap his next nap yeah i i mean the most you got

out of him is you knew he was um stamets lover

husband or whatever and then when he comes back

there's just like like this is so fresh in my

mind because i watched this like two or three

hours ago and he's like you're gonna have to

let me go and move forward and there's something

There's something potentially powerful if they

play this right. Those actors are wonderful.

They've got some great chemistry together. They

can have some great scenes together. I cannot

wait to see what's going to happen with this

particular romance, if it ever plays out again,

or if it's going to be... damaged goods from

here on out. Like, I'm really excited for that.

And I don't like misery, but I like well -written

misery, if that makes any kind of sense. It adds

that gravity to the situation instead of just

being, oh, we wrote it for the sake of writing

it. Yeah, exactly. Like, I want depth to my Star

Trek. And now through modern, like I said, through

modern cinema, through modern storytelling, we're

getting it. I mean, because we never really got

the depth of the emotional relationships in the

original Trek. Sure, we saw bits and pieces,

but we never had depth. But you got it between

Kirk, Spock, and McCoy. Everybody else was kind

of sidelined. Yeah, but I want the emotional

love thing. I mean, you know, I watch a lot of

TV, like Game of Thrones, and I watch... shows

where there are genuinely loving relationships

like between tyrian and shay and uh rob stark

and his wife stuff like that like stuff like

real love and i i really get that and i'm getting

on star trek i could see the potential for that

hbo like depth of love that depth of character

and i'm probably way overstating it by saying

that but i see potential And I love that. And

I haven't been this thrilled for a Star Trek

series in quite some time. In fact, as much as

I was saying off air, man, I just watched eight

episodes of Star Trek in one day. Man, shoot

me in the head. I gotta go back and say, I'm

actually excited for a Star Trek series. And

now that I'm all caught up, I have no reason

not to watch every week. It's on Thursdays up

here in Canada on the Space Channel. So I'll

watch it on Friday mornings when it streams on

Crave. But still, point of the matter is, I'm

excited to see what can happen this season. Burnham

doesn't feel so robotic. I don't like Spock.

Spock's kind of a dick, but that's okay. He's

also only said like 20 words so far. If you remember,

he always was kind of a dick. Yeah, but he had

a warmth to him. There was a dickish warmth,

a dickish charm, if you will. This one, I don't

know yet. But once again, like I said, he's only

said like 20 words. So we'll have to wait and

see what happens with him. I'm liking that they

introduced all the bridge crew. I can't name

them all yet. I'm working on it. I'm actually

going to go back and rewatch that episode just

so I can... Just so I can name all the people.

Like, there's certain people you can tell who

I'm attached to. I know their names. But, I don't

know. All I know is Detmer. Which one's he? Comm

officer? She's the one with the piece of metal

around her one eye. Oh, she's the redhead, right?

Yep. Well, yeah, in the front that drives the

ship. Yeah, she's cool. I like her. She's dead.

Give it time. Something will happen to her or

the blue cyborg chick. Something will happen.

I'm positive that Arium's the cyborg. Oh, yeah.

Something will happen at some point. Or the weird

alien that snots on people. Yeah, I'm pretty

positive that the robot is going to go somewhere,

considering we're going to have more of that.

Especially because the Red Angel is supposed

to be protecting them from that thing that attacked

Pike and Tyler in the shuttle. Because they had

some kind of attack on time travel association

with them. And so does the Red Angel. And the

Red Angel is somebody in a high -tech spacesuit,

basically, that's able to go and help. Basically,

it seems like the Red Angel is basically helping

the characters evolve into stronger versions

of themselves so that they can handle the battle

that is coming. And I think that, you know, whatever

that may bring, I don't think it's the Borg,

although it does kind of reminiscent of that.

Yeah, I kind of got that vibe too. I'm kind of

curious to what it could be. I saw one of my

favorite channels on YouTube was theorizing who

the Red Angel could be. Just to give a shout

out to this channel, Lore Reloaded is awesome.

I love that guy. Check his channel out. He did

a theory where he was wondering, could the Red

Angel be Archer? Maybe the Temporal Cold War

never ended. Yeah, I saw that one. I saw another

one that somebody was saying that it could just

be Burnham just because, you know, you would

expect but not expect it to be her. I hope it's

not something cheesy like that. I would love

it to be Archer. That would be so friggin' cool.

Like, hey, Scott Bakula! Plus it would give Enterprise

a more satisfying conclusion than it was a holodeck

program. Ha ha! Wouldn't it be funny if it was...

Jean -Luc Picard. That would be cool. Hell, you

want to give your series a kick in the ass? Here

is good old Patrick Stewart in a one -off cameo

for the series. That'd be badass. But anyway,

that's just us just kind of spitballing here.

But no, I think as far as the report card goes

for this season, I'm pleased with the production

value. I like how they're handling Section 31.

I'd like to know where I've seen that Captain

Leland before because the actor looks so familiar.

I think he's been on maybe Walking Dead or something.

I can't remember where he came from. So familiar!

Yeah, I'm looking him up right now. Who is that

guy? He's Alan Van Spring. And what's some of

the stuff he's been in? He is from... He looks

like he's been on some cop procedural programs.

I could believe it. He was in Saw 3. He was in

Diary of the Dead. He was in... That's where

I know him from, Diary of the Dead. He's the

dickhead army guy who tells them to get off the

bus. He was in Shadowhunters, Rain. He's in Immortals.

He was in Flashpoint, The Tudors. So a lot of

Canadian stuff. Yeah. Degrassi. He must live

in Toronto. Earth, Final Conflict. I think that's

where I recognize him most from, I think. I didn't

watch it, but I remember seeing the images from

it. But anyways, yeah, he's from Calgary. But

anyways, it's kind of interesting what they're

doing with his character and with Georgiou and

that she's constantly upstaging him. Mm hmm.

And that and that's I mean, that's how they're

going to spin off the Section 31 show is like

basically after this season of Discovery, which

is no different than what they did in Arrow.

You know, after the second season, they spun

off to the Flash and or the third season of that

anyway. But they'll have, you know, when season

three of Discovery starts, we'll get, you know,

Section 31 with Georgiou and Leland won't be

in the picture. I have a feeling because he'll

probably be dead. Oh yeah, she's totally going

to kill him. Or Starfleet's going to remove him.

Because he's constantly looking incompetent whenever

he has a meeting with Brass and Georgiou isn't.

Which she'll probably be the reason why Section

31 is more of this shadowy entity that we get

to see the character in DS9 becoming. We've already

gotten to see the communicator badge, like TNG,

with Ash Tyler. Yeah, I thought that was kind

of a neat callback to that. I was like, oh, that's

kind of cool when I saw it. In fact, I was actually

looking, totally side story, I was looking on

ThinkGeek tonight and I saw all the different

comm badges and I seriously thought about buying

a Section 31 one tonight. because I thought it

would be just neat to wear on top of my N7 sweater.

But I was like, oh, that's so badass. And I haven't

bought Star Trek memorabilia in quite some time,

but I seriously thought about it. I bought stuff

last year, and honestly, if I was going to get

any new ones, it would be the new Captain badge

from Discovery. It would be the Section 31. And

then I would get a new Voyager one because the

one I have kind of broke. My Voyager 1 is a fridge

magnet right now. I have all of mine in a nice

case because I took them to the Star Trek Trivia

Night thing that I did a while back. I see things

going a little bit in different directions as

they begin spinning things off. They've even

cast a couple actors in the Picard series already.

So things are looking good for the future of

Trek. I hear there's even a new animated series

in the works. There's the one from Seth MacFarlane,

and then there's the one that's aimed towards

kids. Well, it's not Seth MacFarlane. It's the

guy that did Rick and Morty. Oh, Dan Harmon.

Sorry, I got them confused. Yeah, because Seth

MacFarlane is doing basically TNG with the Orville,

which has been pretty good, by the way. I know

another show, but I have to marathon over the

course of a couple days. We'll wait for that

one. We're doing some other stuff with this.

But yeah, they cast Evan Evagoria for the Picard

series, who I guess is an Australian actor. Not

too familiar with him. He's so new, I can't even

find an IMDb. And then they've added Santiago

Cabrera and Michelle Hurd to the Picard cast,

which, again, I've not heard of any of them.

It doesn't mean anything, but it's shaping up

to be interesting just that we've got casting

notices and all these things coming out now that

are starting to leak. And I'm looking forward

to basically what... They've said it's going

to be a 10 -hour movie of Picard. I'm hoping

we'll see some kind of at least a teaser trailer

by Comic -Con. That's my prediction. I'll make

that right now. We'll see something. We'll at

least see the empty captain's chair. We'll see

a new bridge design. And then we'll hear the

whistle. Captain on the bridge. And you'll hear...

Patrick Stewart go engage or some bullshit like

that. Guarantee we'll see something by Comic

-Con. Well, he's not going to be a captain of

the Enterprise or a starship anymore from what

they've let loose on this show. We'll see something.

Because you've got to hook fans in somehow. Well,

he's going to commandeer a ship. Well, people

are going to be hooked because it's Patrick Stewart.

And because it's going to be the late, late 24th

century, early 25th century here. that we're

playing around with. And so it's going to play

in that nice gray area of Star Trek Online. Which

we should talk about. There was a video I sent

to Steve a couple of days ago talking about Star

Trek Online. We'll talk about Star Trek Online

again at some point on this show because I didn't

realize how much that... Game has changed over

the years and I have to change my opinion on

it simply with there's a lot of new information

I didn't know. I told you the game's good. It's

got a lot of problems, but it's good. But it's

supported by like 3 ,000 people. Yeah. So that's

a problem. But anyway, we digress. But if you

want to check out that video on YouTube, I think

it's called Death of a Game, Star Trek Online.

The game's not dead, not by any stretch of the

imagination. They just launched some new content

in the last little bit. Mirror Discovery, I think

it was called. Yeah, well, it's the Mirror Universe

now. They've done the Mirror Discovery now. My

only gripe when they do those little... section

things is when they did the TNG thing where they

came out with the Enterprise D and everything

and they did this whole run on the Nexus and

got LeVar Burton to reprise his role. They started

out with a storyline and they just dropped it.

You took the villain out and then they didn't

really explain anything more about that. It was

like a one -off. And I was like, okay, so what

was this character? Because they shrouded him

so you couldn't tell who he was. And I was so

confused looking at it. It kind of reminded me

of a Q entity, but not. But yeah, I mean, the

game, while I enjoy it, they keep changing things

in it. They've even recently announced that in

April they're going to get the Foundry out, which

is what lets fans create their own episodes.

That'll be interesting to see how that all plays

out. Yeah, and everything's getting so ridiculously

expensive with some of this stuff. You can spend

30 real dollars to get this 3 ,000 zen point

ship, which ultimately, none of the ships matter

in the game. It depends on what you equip them

with. Yeah, they each have their benefits and

they have their perks, whether it be a cloak

or if you get the Dreadnought Enterprise D with

the triple nacelle, you can cloak it and you

can do the saucer separation, just like in the

show, which is cool. I use it a lot like that.

But isn't it basically the best example of pay

to win? Because a game like that is supported

by a few whales, so to keep the whales happy,

they have kind of made it microtransaction heavy.

Oh, it's super microtransaction heavy, like,

on every front, but you can play the game and

it doesn't, like, because ultimately the story

is you. It doesn't impact you whatsoever unless

you play PvE or PvP. If you do PvE, you're fine.

Like, it doesn't matter. Yeah, as long as you're

not fighting actual people. Yeah, I mean, as

long as you're doing that, like, there's a lot

of scenarios where you work with other people.

In the missions and, you know, when you play

the group missions, the endeavors, as they call

them now. And it ultimately is just a team effort.

It doesn't matter. So, I mean, I go in there

with my Kelvin universe constitution class enterprise

and that thing rocks in the game. But but yeah,

I mean, it's it's it's good overall. I just I

don't know how much longer they're going to be

able to sustain it other than the fact that CBS

is backing it. Yeah, I was surprised, honestly,

how low the player count was. I figured it would

have been easily 10 ,000. When I found it was

under four, I'm thinking, holy shit. that's surprising

to me. But still, the fact that it still kept

going, the fact that they do engage the fans,

the fact that they are keeping it up with Mirror

of Discovery and the current Star Trek stuff,

that means CBS is still backing it, means they

still believe in it, at least somewhat. So that's

a good sign, at least for the foreseeable future

of the game. So we'll have to see what happens

with it in the near future. I just wish we could

get a giant timeline dump from the game. before

like they crap can the game because you know

eventually it's going to come oh god yeah because

the age of the mmo the fact that it has survived

as long as it has is a testament to its survivability

of its ip um because there aren't that many mmo

games left in town star trek being among them

it's a fringe one but it's still very popular

yeah i mean i'm i'm looking forward to eventually

a new track game, but I'm fine with this one

for the time being. I didn't even realize that

DC Universe Online was still around. Yeah, I'm

totally surprised. And it's microtransactions

worse than Star Trek Online. I don't even know

anybody that plays it still, but it's still amazing

that it's still around. Yeah, that'll be something

we'll have to talk about on Altered Geek is the

MMO scene. Because I've only really played a

couple of them. Like The Matrix Online, I played

Star Wars for a little bit. And the only one

I haven't tried is World of Warcraft. If they

do D &D Online again, maybe I'll give it a whirl.

I know there's one called Sword Coast Legends,

but I just don't care. But anyway. I digress.

So back to Star Trek, I'd say, uh, season two,

midterm report card. I'm going to give them a

solid B plus. I think, excuse me. I think they've

done some wonderful stuff with the show. Wonderful

character arcs, great acting on the whole great

production value. Um, minuses why you didn't

get an, an a, um, I think some characters are

a little weak, like, I'm looking at you, Spock,

specifically. But we're only one episode into

him speaking. Yeah, this is true. That's why

I'm giving it a solid B -plus so far. I'm very

happy with what I've seen. There doesn't seem

to be too many filler -type episodes. Things

are always moving forward. And I can't wait to

see what else happens with the rest of the season.

I'm going to give it... Probably the same score.

The only reason is because there's still some

unresolved threads that I'm waiting to see happen.

And I'm waiting as far as... I have a feeling

we're going to see a tag team effort against

the aliens with the Enterprise and the Discovery

at some point. But that's neither here nor there.

But, yeah, I mean, I enjoy the series. There

are some weak characters. There are some, like,

weak moments. Overall, it's been pretty strong.

And the growth and evolution of certain characters

that, you know, previously were kind of glossed

over in Season 1 because you had the whole Lorca

and Mirror Universe and the Klingon thing going

on, which was just, like, honestly too much.

But like any Star Trek series, the... first season

typically is the roughest is the roughest because

they don't they're kind of trying to get you

at you know your attention and at the same time

uh trying to establish like this whole band of

merry men as it were um and and you know get

you invested and that's ultimately the difficult

thing plus getting the story off the ground and

uh things of that nature so like it's I think

Season 2 is definitely stronger. I think it's

probably among the levels of TNG, Season 3 and

on, as far as getting stronger, kind of glossing

over that first two seasons. And some of the

other ones as well, like Voyager and DS9. I think

TOS is kind of its own thing because it was just

totally episodic. the entire time, unless it

was a two -parter, and really nothing had consequence

on the next episode. Whereas, like, any of the

other series had it to some degree. This one

definitely has no filler, which is ultimately

the best thing about it, is we don't have throwaway

episodes. Agreed. So, yeah, I mean, I give it

a solid B +, as well, just kind of waiting until

some things evolve into their next part of the

season. So that's pretty much going to do it

for this episode of Future Imperfect. What we're

going to talk about next time, I'm not entirely

sure, but there's tons of Trek out there for

us to consume. We could talk about some of the

sciences, starships, alien races, whatever. We

have tons of stuff to talk about. We'll probably

be back in a few weeks to do so. So make sure

you're listening here to the Geekcast Radio Network

and, of course, ThisWeekInGeek .net. Let me see.

I was going to say, Mr. Spock, take us out, but

no. You're not at the con. That's a load of horse

crap. No, but I think that what we could cover,

though, is some of the Star Trek Online stuff

once you've gotten a little familiarized with

it. And then, again, kind of recapping some of

the Discovery episodes since where we're at right

now. One of the things I really want to talk

about is I want to talk about the Star Trek stuff

in other media. And that more specifically boils

down to the... modiphius Star Trek role -playing

game stuff they just released the science division

book which came out in the middle of February

and that you talk about the science division

medical division but they also have an entire

section on the queue and the queue continuum

and how to work those characters into your role

-playing game sessions which is infinitely interesting

when you really kind of read into it basically

how to include god into your games and how to

make it interesting and threatening at the same

time but what does he need with the starship

he needs to get to the center of the center of

who knows what because god in fact i kind of

wonder if they ever address that at some point

anyway just thinking out loud but I think another

thing that we could cover in a future episode

as well is the fact that that documentary for

DS9, what we left behind looking back at Star

Trek Deep Space Nine. Yes. Was recently acquired

by Shout Studios, which is Shout Factory. So

we'll see that release probably before the end

of the year, I'm guessing. Well, what's going

to be interesting is they plan to release it

across multiple platforms, including theatrical

by the year's end. Interesting. That'll be kind

of cool. It'll be a limited theatrical engagement,

but that is still very cool. So that might be

something that people will be interested in as

well, because I know I am, and it's, it's, you

know, it's co -directed by, uh, of, you know,

uh, of DS nine. So it's, I I'm looking forward

to seeing what they do because it's, it's going

to be a lot of interviews, a lot of, you know,

some of it's been remastered. Some of it's just

new. Or plans that they had for Season 8, including

a new starship to replace the Defiant. Okay.

And some other things that they had kind of in

the pipeline there if they'd been allowed to

continue. So I'm very interested in seeing what

happens with that and, of course, getting the

DVD or Blu -ray. So, without further ado, take

us out. Good night, everybody.