Altered Geek
SDCC 2025 Wrap-Up & Happy Gilmore 2 (Spoilers)

About this Episode
Join Steve "Megatron" and TFG1Mike in this week's Altered Geek as they dive deep into the biggest news and reveals from San Diego Comic-Con 2025! From new Star Trek series and toy announcements to exciting genre mash-ups and the latest in Transformers, they cover it all. Plus, they discuss the highly anticipated and received Happy Gilmore 2 and celebrate the 13th anniversary of Altered Geek! Don't miss out on all the geeky goodness! So Get Altered, Get Geeky, with the Altered Geeks!
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name. Hello, and welcome to Altered Geek. I'm
your host, Steve Megatron. And joining me on
this adventure into geekdom is TFG1 Mike. Holy
crap, folks, it's been 12 or 13 years since Steve
and the other Mike who isn't here. We wish he
was here, but he's not here. Powers started Altered
Geek. Damn. It's been a long time. Y 'all are
teenagers now. Yep. Yep. But we are here to do
the normal thing we always do. Yep, it wouldn't
be Altered Geek without talking about some cool
geek stuff. And as usual, SDCC has occurred.
Yes, it has. And there's some pretty cool stuff.
I mean, tons of stuff. Not everything is something
that we intentionally care about, but there's
quite a bit. I, in particular, have a lot that
pertains to Trek in this particular lineup. And
Transformers. Yeah. Not surprising. This is kind
of like, we are going to do a separate All Things
Transformers anniversary show for All Things
Transformers, obviously. The surprising thing
for Altered Geek this week, folks, is we actually
have Transformers stories in this podcast, which
we normally don't do because we have all things
Transformers that is dedicated to Transformers
news. However, because it is SDCCCCCCCC, we have
to do some Transformers news here on Altered
Geek because that's what we like. So, yeah. So,
yeah. So there's that. We're going to have some
various news, some of it TV, some of it toys,
some of it comics, some of it just kind of all
over the place. And then we're going to have
a brief discussion about Happy Gilmore 2, because
I know we're going to cover it more in depth
on Studio 2009. Yeah. At some point with its
predecessor. Yeah, it's OK. So we're going to
do a spoiler filled review here on Altered Geek.
And next year is the original film's 30th anniversary.
And Steve knows how anal I am with anniversaries.
So it's probably going to be a double thing.
at some point next year. But yeah, so we wanted
to talk about Happy Gilmore 2 as it was released
on Netflix this year. I don't know why they didn't
wait until next year to coincide with whatever.
It is what it is. But we're here on Altered Geek
to talk about all this stuff. And obviously,
the 12th anniversary of the audio podcast. Holy
crap, dude. 447 episodes. in 12 years did you
think this show would get 447 episodes in 12
years i'm rather quite surprised it's still going
but that's i mean there were points where i was
like i'm done i'm hanging in the towel like uh
-huh very much like i did with all things transformers
where i was kind of like yeah i'm done gonna
do something else we'll see But yeah, it didn't
happen. No, it's it. It's like that old line.
I thought I was out and they pulled me back in.
And that's literally what happened with all things
Transformers. Oh, yeah. I literally quit that
show. Yeah. Three times. Yeah. And it was brought
back every time. Oh, yeah. That show is like
our least favorite character who has the indestructible
spark. That show is basically Starscream. It'll
never die because it has an indestructible spark.
It takes over Waspinator's body. But yeah, man,
I mean, you're essentially... If I have the math
right, 53 episodes away from 500. Which means
that Altered Geek would be the second longest
show on the network behind the pull bag. And
All Things Transformers. Third longest show.
Yeah, All Things Transformers, it's funny enough,
it's pretty close to... I mean, this is episode
447. Yep. All Things Transformers, the last episode
was 447. Yep. So they'll probably hit 500 right
around the same time. Right around the same time.
Yeah, absolutely. Because of the frequency and
cadence that we record, they'll probably hit
it at the same week. At the same time, yep. Now,
what would be awesome is if they hit it on their
next anniversary date. we can we can do that
we can figure that out which means if we wanted
to do that they would probably have to go on
hiatus at some point during next year like they
would like we would have to go off and you know
finish pod meets war or not pod meets world is
daniel official writer strong we would have to
finish podcaster meets world we would have to
start altered track we would have to uh do something
else in order to let these shows sit until we
get to the point of that last week. And yeah,
I would probably put them on a, a bigger gap.
Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Between episodes
and like not too much to where it's not pertinent.
Like, yeah. Once a month or once, you know, yeah,
we did once a month. We'd only get 12 episodes.
Okay, but I'm saying, like, we're at 447. Yeah.
We need... I've got other podcasts, too. I want
to try and pick up, like, the Cyber Dragon Ball
altered track. Yeah. I might do a companion podcast
for my book that's coming out after this release,
like, a week. So... Both shows currently, as
of this recording, are at 447 episodes. We need
53 episodes to get both shows to 500. So we would
have to record, basically, let's just say for
my insanity, like my Studio 2009 insanity, we
would have to record 53 days. of podcasting i
know we're not going to do 53 days in a row but
you understand what i'm saying like we would
have to produce the show you know what i mean
and technically we would have to do one a week
right for the next year yeah oh yeah absolutely
to hit to hit the goal because yeah yeah 52 weeks
but yeah that's that's we'll see who knows um
But yeah, it's crazy. It's still going. Yeah.
And it's a lot of fun, and we still have fun
every week. It's your show, but I think we should
introduce new... We can still do the news and
topics and whatever, but we could always introduce
new things. Oh, I know. And I've got ideas fleshed
out. I just... need time to sit and ponder them.
And I want to make sure they come to fruition.
Cause there's been a lot of times I sit down
and I'm like, ah, this is a great idea. I want
to do this. And then, uh, and then I mentioned
it on the show and then it never happens. And
I'm like, that's yeah. Well, so I want to make
sure whatever I say, it actually happens. So,
um, it's time, it's time to, it's time to execute,
execute Mr. Oh, Dallas is going to get canceled.
You ass hat. Never know. There's other things
I think are going to get canceled this year,
but. Whatever the next law and order is. Anyways,
so getting into it like the beginning stuff,
it's it's some Star Trek news. Yes, this is all
for you, sir. So. Starfleet Academy. Mm hmm.
It's a new original series that will premiere
in early twenty twenty six. It's got the old
Starfleet Academy font like the old Star Trek
font. Right. They used for. The original films
and. I want to say Deep Space Nine. Right. And
then the step into the future, your future, that's.
That's essentially another font that they've
used in the Kelvin universe type stuff, but it's
neat because they show six individuals on the
logo. They've got some new aliens. It's also
going to be used to kick off the fact that Trek
has been around for 60 years at that point. Nice.
So that'll hit its 60th anniversary next year.
It's going to take place in the... the main campus
in San Francisco. Uh, and what's interesting
is discovery it. Cause it takes place in the
32nd century, which is beyond the 25th century
that we left off with, with Picard. Uh, they
had an enterprise, like a, uh, segment that's
like the 31st century or something. And it's
got, Agent Daniels, who's on the Enterprise serving
with Scott Bakula and Jonathan Archer. And he...
His whole part of the timeline, he's like time
police. And Discovery, as much as I hated it,
because it came from the 23rd century, but pre
-Kirk. right right right and they ended up there
and then there was like this dilithium thing
that happened uh that it ignited a bunch of ships
and then a lot of the fleets kind of went to
themselves earth became like their own entity
instead of part of starfleet starfleet was so
far removed from everybody that they just kind
of became their own well they reunified like
all the different races in discovery before it
closed off and so now these students are the
first batch of new academy students to hit Starfleet
Academy which had been defunct for like 200 years
and it's on Earth again which again had been
200 years since like the burn and whatever I
think is irrelevant of the series but They've
got some some heavy hitters coming to the series.
They've got some newbies. I'm not 100 percent
sure if I'm going to love it or not. They're
going to take place on the USS Athena. And so
Holly Hunter is playing Nala Ake, the chancellor
of Starfleet Academy and captain of the USS Athena.
Who is a long lived half lanthanite, which I
believe. The Lanthanites are in Strange New Worlds.
They're like a humanoid species that can live
for thousands of years among humans. And so they
basically... So one of them is named Pealia,
is on Strange New Worlds, serving as the chief
engineer in the second and third... uh season
at some point because she's because they've introduced
scotty at the end of season two and he's there
on season three and it's very green and young
she's schooling him on being a miracle worker
and coming up with solutions under pressure and
things like that so eventually like because she's
teaching him so at some point she'll move on
and scotty will take over as chief engineer and
history will progress as needed but anyways the
lanthanite is a new species created for that
And so it's interesting they're bringing that
back for the show. And then, of course, we get
the Klingons the first time that they're back
and he's serving as a science officer in this
in in this version. There's a couple of like
humans. The the Klingons still look a little
weird. Like, cause the beard and stuff looks
strange. And then he's got like ear piercings
and like an eyebrow ring or whatever. And it's
like, okay, come on. But this is going to sound
stupid, but Worf is a Klingon, right? Yes. Okay.
He's the only Klingon I ever cared about. End
of line. Like, I don't care. I liked Martok too.
Okay, fine. That's, that's fine. But like, I
don't care. I've never cared about any of the
rest of them. I don't know. Well, at some point
in the future, they become a race or something.
Well, no, they join with Starfleet like in some
point in the future. So that's he's going to
be a medical officer or wants to be one in this
situation. And then I've got a. A Kaskian, whatever
the heck that is. That's something new. They've
got a Kyanonian, which again is something new.
And a Darsha, whatever that is. So and then they've
got, you know, a Betazoid as the daughter of
the president of Betazoid. And then they've got
Robert Picardo reprising his role as the holographic
doctor. Which that I'm more interested in than
anything else, because it's like, is this the
doctor from Voyager or is this the duplicate?
Yeah. Holographic doctor from one of the episodes
where he takes a shuttle. And is heading home.
Yeah, they said from wherever he was at, it would
take a thousand years. So I'm wondering which
version of the doctor we're dealing with here.
Plus the the holographic. uh he had like a hollow
emitter that was attached to his arm well now
those are built in the combat just like the tricorder
is too and the transporter so um and they've
got tig notaro playing jet reno who was in discovery
uh oh dead fear uh reprising his admiral vance
who was in discovery um they've got a klingon
gem hadar hybrid which is interesting Considering
Jem Hadar are grown and not reproduced. And it's
supposed to be the chancellor's first officer.
So we'll see how that works. But Paul Giamatti
is playing a part Klingon, part Tellarite, which
Tellarite are like the pig people. Yep. So he's
part Klingon and part Tellarite. So that should
be interesting to see how this. plays out but
uh he's got an apparently an ominous past connected
to one of the cadets obviously so it's it's like
power rangers in space um so i mean all that
all that to say i'm interested to see what they
do with it i'm not very optimistic it can't be
any worse than discovery or section 31 like section
31 is like the bottom theater that I would, I
would say for star Trek at this point, like even
making discovery look good. Yeah. So in discovery
is by far my least favorite of this new era of
the, the television series. So, but anyways,
I just don't know who star Trek is for anymore
because you don't. Okay. So when we, When we
grew up, well, when I grew up, because you were
only one year old when Next Gen started, I was
seven. In 1987, when Next Gen first aired, I
don't remember the exact plot of the first five
episodes of Next Generation, but I remember just
the feeling of watching that show. Same thing
with Deep Space Nine. I was glued to Deep Space
Nine and Stargate SG -1. Those two shows for
sci -fi television in the late 80s, early to
mid 90s, I was glued to my television watching
those. Nowadays... We don't have actors like
John Luke Picard. I mean, John Luke Picard is
still here. Patrick Stewart is still here. But
this generation, the kids of this generation,
don't have the actors and actresses that we had.
There is no William Shatner for this generation.
You know what I mean? The Hollywood that is now
is not the Hollywood that was from 1966. So I
don't understand. Who the Star Trek of this generation
is for? I don't think they even know. I'm being
for real here. I don't think they actually know.
That's so sad. But that being said. That's so
sad. We have also. Star Trek Strange New Worlds.
It season three is currently ongoing. Season
four has just wrapped and season five will be
the final season of Strange New Worlds. And then
they've mentioned that they'd like to do Kirk
and his crew before. The first episode of the
original series, because obviously he's not green
in that first episode, like he's already kind
of a little bit seasoned. OK. And works with
like Sulu and Scotty and Spock at that point.
Checkoff comes much later. Uhura is on the ship
and we don't know if McCoy is there or not. But
that being said, they want to do a Star Trek
and call it year one because they already have
all the sets for Strange New Worlds and it would
just carry over into the original series with
the original series crew. Yeah. kind of building
up to the original series and connecting the
dots. I don't think it's necessary, but I get
why they want to kind of stretch those dollars
of using this set. Yeah. Yeah, you got to use
the old sets. Heaven forbid you spend money to
make new ones. Now, what they could do is update
the sets and give it the refit. from the movies
and then go like from the time frame of the end
of the undiscovered country or the enterprise
b launching through to the beginning of tng because
there's that that whole lost time period there
yeah you could do that which everybody would
love to see them do except for the fact people
are worried they'll screw it up but yeah that's
the i mean that's that's the problem is that
everything i don't think we need all of these
gaps filled in right exactly but like that's
the that's the problem with with us as fans and
us as people who love the stuff that we love
that we want to see them do we want to see the
creators do certain things and when they either
do them or don't do them we're like oh you screwed
it up when you did it or oh i can't believe you
didn't do it we get so mad or so upset either
way. It's like, we can't be pleased. Like it
doesn't matter whatever they do kind of thing.
And that's what sucks because, you know, we need
to be better than that as fans of whatever it
is. But yeah, they're, they're going to have
a episode with puppets. Yes, they are. With the
Jim Henson's Creature Shop. Yep. Directed by
Jordan Canning of Fraggle Rock, Back to the Rock.
Mm hmm. OK, so there's. I'll let you speak on
this because like I'm I'm not in love with this
idea. I mean, they've already had a Star Trek
musical. They've already done. You know, they've
done other stuff, which the original series had
a lot of wacky, weird stuff, too. Mm hmm. I can
get behind even, even the musical episode. This
to me is a little too far. Like there was an
episode in the previous season where they brought
two of the characters from lower decks getting
sucked into the past. Right. And that was cool.
But yeah, cause they were dropping all kinds
of references, you know, to the future. And Pike
was like, shut up. Yeah. Shut up. Stop ruining
things. Yeah. But. he's like i already know like
about my future because they're like oh my goodness
what happened and he's like i already know yeah
yeah but i mean this i'm like why do we need
muppet episodes yeah the here's the thing though
like it's it's television trying too hard i think
plenty of shows have done this like you mentioned
TV shows have done musicals. They've done this.
They've done that. They've done whatever. I remember
the Buffy the Vampire Slayer did a musical. Angel
did a puppet episode where I loved Puppet Angel.
Puppet Angel was David Boreanaz as Angel as a
puppet was hilarious. Now, I have never watched
any of this Star Trek stuff because I am old
school classic TNG DS9 Star Trek type of fan.
And I am. I'm specifically waiting to watch any
Star Trek stuff until we start Altered Trek,
the GCRN Star Trek review podcast that we will
be starting at some point, hopefully by next
year for the 60th anniversary of Star Trek. But
the thing is, is that and that's why I'm speaking
on this as far as like what I've seen of other
shows. that have done this star trek doesn't
need fucking puppets i'm sorry to use the f word
but star trek doesn't need puppets folks it just
does it just flipping doesn't like seriously
really like star trek is the serious show so
it's like this is like If they wanted to go and
do a special separate from the episode and do
something like, you know, 1978 Star Wars holiday
special and have it a Star Trek holiday special
for Halloween or something and not have it a
part of which was whichever one of the shows
it is. Sure. Fine. Go ahead. Do something separate
with the puppets. But don't bring the puppets
into your show. Now, if you're turning like.
If you're doing what Angel did, where it was
a curse and he walked through a door or he did
something with whatever. Yeah, he walked through
a door and there was this giant thing that smiled
at him and turned him into a puppet. If you're
going to turn your characters into a puppet,
that could be funny and fine and whatever. And
the plot could be they have to figure out how
to not be puppets anymore. But if you're just
bringing actual puppets in to work with your...
That's freaking dumb. Don't freaking do that.
Stop freaking being stupid with Star Trek. You're
going to insult your show. You're going to insult
us, the audience. And I'm not even watching your
freaking show right now. And I know this is a
stupid idea. Are you freaking... Freak! Anyways.
I'm trying not to use the other F word, folks.
I've already used it once or twice. I'm trying
my best because I know he doesn't like it when
I do it. So, freak, freak, freaking freak. No,
Star Trek, don't. No, don't, and stop. Freaking
Star Trek. So, that being said, Nacelle Toys,
who they do the toys that made us and the movies
that made us and all that stuff. I guess they're
coming out with another Toys That Made Us season
at some point, but they have genuinely impressed
me. Well, have they now? So, wave two of the
Star Trek line, because wave one, we kind of
already knew about, you know, they've teased
line or wave two after wave one and wave two
is going to have you know we've talked about
it before uh for instance that star trek generations
captain kirk that i wanted since i was a kid
when the film came out like an authentically
good one looks like shatner you know just love
the uniform so it comes with like the jarb dillweed
the the eggs the axe the firewood the stump the
horse So I will get that when that comes out.
But that looks like it's the beginning of next
year. And it's, you know, legit going to be cool.
But they're, you know, they're going to have
various eras. They're going to have a lot of
the sailor uniform crew of the Enterprise D from
Generations. They're going to have, you know,
like the Romulan commander and Nog and, you know,
certain ones of that. So they revealed at Comic
-Con. Wave three and four. Oh, wow. And wave
three has the entire cast of the original series.
Oh, wow. That's hilarious. So they have Kirk.
They have Spock, McCoy, Uhura, Sulu, Chekhov,
Scotty, Nurse Chapel, Janice Rand. And then it
says a surprise two pack and it doesn't say of
who. So with the detail that I've seen on their
figures up to this point, I'm highly enthused
and looking forward to it. It almost reminds
me of like the the toy asylum or art asylum figures
that came out years ago. Yeah. And then they
were just kind of like unobtainable and they
were one. I was broke. And then two, it was just.
Yeah, I just I just didn't get them. And so I
missed out. So. these are kind of neat because
one, they'll all be in scale, but two, I could
get Kirk. I could get McCoy. I could get Spock
and I get Scotty, which are my main four. Yeah.
And I could get them in the original series uniforms,
which is nice. Um, but the surprise two pack
is to celebrate the 60th anniversary of track.
So I'm wondering if we might get like a, a captain
Pike in the chair or like a original series captain
Pike from the original pilot. Yeah. Cause they
can't sell anything. Star Trek from 2009 onward
because it's a different studio, different licensing.
Like it's the, the Abrams verse and, um, Kurtzman.
Yep. Anything from the Kurtzman era cannot be
produced by nacelle. Right. They have the rights
for the original stuff. Yeah. Pre 2009. And it's
also only in America. Oh, interesting. Master
collector. Has the license to everything. Modern
Trek. Hmm. And so they have like Star Trek, Picard
and Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds and. I
don't have those here, but I'll talk about them
in a minute. Wave 4 has Captain Sisko from Deep
Space Nine in his first contact type uniform.
You get Savick from Search for Spock. You get
Captain Harriman of Generations Enterprise B.
You get Kirk from First Contact where he's smashed
his ships with his phaser. Yep. Then, of course,
you get Data with the Sailor Edition. You get
Chekov from the Voyage Home from the Nuclear
Wessels Edition. Nuclear Wessels. That's what
it says. I know. It says Nuclear Wessels Edition.
Oh, Jesus. Then they have David Marcus, which
is Kirk's son. They have the Mirror Universe.
of uh hoshi sato they have you know dr crusher
they have tom paris from one of the his captain
proton polydeck program so yeah so that's neat
and then uh master or master replicas it's not
master collector master replicas has the new
they're going to have a a new uh Worf from season
three of Picard. They're going to have Picard.
They're going to have Riker. They're going to
have Geordi. They're going to have Data so far.
And I guess Data and Geordi had just approved
their their figure during Comic -Con. Cool. And
then we'll have Strange New Worlds and Lower
Decks. Yep. These are not in scale with the nacelle
figures. Because the nacelle figures are like
almost like. Seven or eight inch tall figures.
These are the four and a half inch, so they're
going to almost scale with our old playmates
toys. Oh, very cool. And they look neat, like
the detail on them is good. But these four and
a half inch figures. Very much. look like they're
four and a half inch figures. Like they don't
have the full detail that I was kind of hoping
for. Right. Yeah. Um, just, I mean, even zooming
in and looking at them, I mean, they're, they're,
they're a lot nicer than the playmates figures
for sure. Like they've got more articulation
in the joints and, you know, ankle, knee, waist,
Although like they can swivel all around, whereas
the old stuff couldn't. And the paint decor is
great. But. Yeah, I. As tempting as these are,
I don't see me ever owning them. Sadly. Yeah.
Just because of the the fact that they cost as
much as the ones from Nacelle. And the Nacelle
figures literally come with way more. stuff than
these and they're the same price true and i may
actually see the nacelle stuff in the store and
bbts will sell them whereas master replicas it's
only on their site and it's those are worldwide
but it's only on their site yeah so i don't ever
see me owning them but so yeah that that rounds
out my star trek figure I believe you had something
about masters of the universe and transformers.
Holy crap. It went nuts at SDCCCCCC. And that's
a joke folks. That's a, so I've been doing, um,
what did we call it? It was convention attention.
I think over on geek cast radio, the flagship
podcast of our lovely network here. Uh, my buddy,
uh, Christopher Morton and our other buddy, Matt,
uh, What's Matt's? Jesus, I forget what his last
name is. Anyway, Matt Crowder. We've been doing
off and on convention attention since about 2021
because they go to conventions out in Portland
and Washington. They go to Rose City Comic Con.
They go to Emerald City Comic Con. And whenever
we do Emerald City Comic Con ECCC, We ended up
doing ECCCCCC. So that's why I do SDCCCC. Anyway,
but yeah, it was SDCC this year was an explosion
of, oh my God, this has happened. First of all,
I'm just going to mention this. We're not going
to really talk about this, but first time ever.
George Lucas was at San Diego Comic -Con. Holy
crap. Holy crap. But yeah, Masters of the Universe
from Mattel crossing over with Hasbro, Transformers,
Megatron Armor Skeletor, and Bumblebee Armor
Man -at -Arms. Holy crap. Um, what? I mean, they
definitely look interesting. Yeah, I would have
never seen these crossovers happening. Yeah,
but they already did the Turtle Universe with
Masters. Yeah, it's another Mattel Hasbro collaboration.
Yeah. I mean. Turtles and. Turtles and Masters?
That's Mattel and Playmate. Anyway, I mean, so
Skeletor as Megatron and Man -at -Arms as Bumblebee.
I kind of see it. I like the packaging. The packaging
is cool as hell. That looks really cool. There
was an artist years ago that did drawings of
He -Man. As Optimus Prime, but it was basically
like Optimus Prime's body with He -Man's head
kind of thing. I'll have to see if I can find
those images on my Facebook, but I think the
Skeletor as Megatron works better than the Man
-at -Arms as Bumblebee. I concur. Yeah, the Skeletor
as Megatron looks so badass. And I know I can
already hear every single Transformers fan. Saying,
oh my God, they don't transform. How are they?
They're crossover character things, folks. It
would be cool. It would absolutely be cool if
we had a Skeletor Transformer. I think that would
be amazing. But in reality, I don't think that's
ever going to happen. I just don't think it'll
ever happen. It would be cool if it did. These,
however, are very, very cool. These will be in
stores. Oh, yeah. Yep. These will be in stores.
People will be able to get these. The cool thing
about the Man -at -Arms' Bumblebee is that he
has the helmet. He has the helmet, the faceplate,
the whatever. So you can have Man -at -Arms show
his face, or you can have him wear the mask helmet
thing, Bumblebee's battle mask thing. So that
is cool. So you're kind of getting double the
whatever. So that is very, very cool. I like
it. Is it something I'm probably going to get?
No. It was just gangbusters seeing that Skeletor.
Damn it. It looks so good. Jeez, it looks so
damn good. Anyway, the Skeletor I really like.
Yeah, it looks so damn good. And then in comic
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folks 16 and a half years we have a press release
from idw publishing comics and entertainment
the new era of teenage mutant ninja turtles comics
all -star new creative team multiverse event
crossover with the king of the monsters and more
from los angeles california july 25th 2025 idw
publishing is proud to announce the ambitious
and fan -focused plans for the future of the
acclaimed and best -selling line of TMNT comic
books. So we have TMNT number 13, after an incredible
ongoing series run from Jason Aaron and Juan
Ferreira. I'm sorry if I mispronounced that.
The high -quality... Heartfelt and exciting storytelling
that fans deserve won't miss a beat with the
arrival of an all -star duo. Eisner -winning
writer Gene Lun Yang, who wrote on Shang -Chi
and Superman Smashes the Klan, Avatar The Last
Airbender, and more. And blockbuster artist Freddie
E. Williams II, Batman, TMNT. Turtles of Greyskull,
He -Man and the Masters of the Universe, etc.,
etc. Also joining the line is group editor Jake
Thomas, formerly of Marvel, starting their run
with TMNT, number 13 in December. This all -new
story arc will provide fans with a fresh jumping
-on point as the Heroes in a Half -Shell are
back together and hopeful about the future of
the city. But there's a dark and personal danger
lurking in the shadows as a deadly new assassin
makes their debut. And we go on to hear from
the various new creative team in this press release.
They are also going to be doing Battle Nexus
series. That big crossover is TMNT Godzilla.
So they're going to do that. I folks, my buddy
Joe Reed and I have been doing, we need to get
back to it, but we have covered every single
issue, every single, everything almost of the
IDW run of TMNT. We're still catching up on the
initial run. We got to get to that one 50 and
then we'll get to this new era that they're doing
now, but it's so good. You know, I will always
say, always say what I said in issue 55. If you
have ever been a TMNT fan, you need to be reading
this comic. I got quoted on issue 50. I need
to go find that book and get it framed because
damn. Yeah, it's on my wall. I know. I might
actually have another one. That's fine. Whatever
it is, what it is. Um, you can take a picture
of that and send that to me so I can put it on
the, on the Facebook page. Uh, but, uh, yeah,
no, like seriously, IDW TMNT is quite literally
the shit. Uh, it's amazing. There's little tiny,
tiny nitpicking quibbles, but Joe and I have
had a blast. We've, I don't even know. I think
it's something out of the 577 episodes. The pull
bag has, I think something like 65 episodes is
the entire run to the point that we are at right
now. And we still have to record like seven episodes
to finish the run, the original 150 issue comic
run. And then we'll obviously start with this
new era that they have here. But they do so many
good things. So many good things. So we got that.
And then, oh, boy. Finally, after, Jesus, how
long has it been? Oh, man, I can't math. 13 years?
I don't know. 15 years. 15 years. Jesus. 15 years!
Are you kidding me? Okay. I understand that it
took them... Let's see... 82... I understand
it took them 28 years between 1982 and 2010 to
make a sequel to Tron. But to make a sequel to
Tron Legacy... Especially after giving us Tron
the next day, that little short film where Ram
and Tron meet up, where Bruce Boxleitner goes
to meet the guy that plays the Ram character.
And they talk about doing whatever. They give
us that little teaser. It took them 15 damn years
for Tron Ares. I think it's October 17th it's
coming out. I think that's what it is. Yeah,
October 10th. It's supposed to be out October
10th, 2025. It stars Jared Joker Idiot Leto.
I will say, though. The trailer that I saw, the
teaser that I saw before the actual trailer,
this is the first film of his that I've ever
seen him do that. I feel like it's an actual
character that it isn't just him trying to portray
some character that's been in the zeitgeist for
50, 67, like Joker. Somebody has to step into
the Joker's shoes and fill them. like that's
a character that's been around for so long it's
not a new character you can't put your stamp
you can put your stamp on it but it's you know
what i mean like it's an established thing so
this is the first trailer this is the first time
i've seen leto where it's like oh okay so it's
him greta lee as eve kim evan peters as julian
dillinger I don't know. He doesn't say who he's
playing. Jodie Turner -Smith as Athena and others
in this. Gillian Anderson as Elizabeth Dillinger.
And of course, Jeff Bridges returns as Kevin
Flynn. After seeing the new trailer that they
dropped, I'm interested. But I need to see another
trailer. I concur. I need to see more than what
they showed in this first trailer. Because even
Wikipedia doesn't really give the quoted premise
from Walt Disney that's written here in Wikipedia.
Tron Ares follows a highly sophisticated program,
Ares. who is sent from the digital world into
the real world on a dangerous mission marking
humankind's first encounter with AI beings. I
don't know what happened to whatever was supposed
to be after Tron Legacy with Sam and Cora and
all that. I wish they would have continued that
storyline. Yes, that's my point. I don't know
what happened with all, with all of that, but
I wanted that to get like, you can introduce
this, but I wanted that to continue. Cause I
love Tron legacy. I literally just like four
or five months ago, I just bought the Blu -ray
like, cause I missed seeing it and it wasn't
on wherever I was looking for it online. And
I'm like, Oh, cool. Blu -ray. Yay. So. Yeah,
I wish we I wish we knew what happened. Yeah.
But again. Yeah. Yeah. We'll see, I guess. Yeah,
we'll see. And then Michael Keaton should be
Alfred. that's not what that meant no it was
this article was basically saying remember when
Michael Keaton turned into Arkham Batman like
he he had all the gadgets he went fought he you
know it it was like watching the Arkham game
battles you know very like he was very tactical
very you know had all the gadgets the gear the
fighting style and he wasn't like He wasn't like
Ben Affleck, Batman of like, oh, let's kill everybody.
Like, yeah, he would maim people. Yeah, but it
was a normal fashion, you know, and a lot of
the a lot of the movements he did were exactly
like the Arkham games. And then the, you know,
when he was scouting out stuff, you know, he
had the Batwing. He had the, you know, the Batmobile
type stuff. He had the Batcave. He had the different
uniforms. You get to see him, you know, in the
cave and. It was amazing to see all of that because
we haven't gotten a Batman like this really ever.
Like an all in one package, right? Yeah, we've
had segments of this Batman, but never him all
in one package. And that's about the only good
thing about this flash film is that we got everything
all in one package, although. the movie was crap
Keaton and Batman were key and so that's what
this this Facebook post was saying is this is
exactly how James Gunn's Batman should be in
the DCU yep and I concur like but I also at the
same time I wish they were just they would do
a standalone trilogy of Batman Beyond and have
Bruce play you know played old man Bruce played
by Keaton doesn't have to be in the suit but
Yeah, no, he doesn't have to be in the suit.
But yeah. Yeah, absolutely. You just got to find
the right person to play Terry. And I'm sorry,
Robert Pattinson is not the right person to play
Terry. No. He. I. So we. Currently, as of this
recording, Studio 2009 just released episode
145. We are 55 episodes away from the 200th episode
of that podcast. The 200th episode of that podcast
will be Steve and I talking about Nolan's Dark
Knight trilogy, all three films in one show.
After that, my thoughts were that we would tackle
the three -hour mess that is The Batman. I don't
know if I can. Because the first time I watched
that movie. It was three hours? Yes! Why? It's
just freaking Batman. Yeah, let me look it up
just to make sure I have it right. Because Batman
2022 superhero film. God, yeah. That's what I
remember. Running time, 176 minutes. Hey, Google.
How many hours is 176 minutes? 2 .93 hours. Yeah,
I don't get that. Like, endgame? Yes. Yeah. This?
Why? I don't know, but like I tried, it was on,
I don't think I ordered it on my cable on Xfinity
or something, but it was on something. I don't
know. I watched it somewhere when it came out
on digital. I didn't buy it because I was not
going to pay for it. I mean, I probably rented
it somewhere or it was a freeze, but I watched
it. So I didn't download it. I didn't do anything
illegal. Or anything to get it. But I saw it.
And I watched it. But as I was watching it. When
it got released on digital. Or whatever. I'm
like okay. The movie stops here right? No we
have blah blah blah. Like we have all this left.
And I'm like really? And Pattinson was an okay
Batman. He was serviceable. But. I think he's
too young. I don't, I don't, I don't know. Like
I gotta go back and rewatch it. I really don't
want to cause it's three frigging hours. Like
I would, I would, I can't believe I'm going to
say this. I would rather watch all three Lord
of the Rings movies and cover those on studio
2009 than watch the Batman. And those are way
longer. It's been a long time since I've seen
those two. I would rather take the time to see
if I enjoy those than watch the Batman again
because it was just too much. So anyway. Where
are we? We're at TMNT Godzilla Cap versus Xenomorph.
Yep. Yep. So what are we doing with this? I just
think it's funny that we're getting more of these
crossovers. Yeah. I mean, we get Predator with.
a new ending featuring, uh, Arnold in, in the
end of the movie. Yep. Um, and then we're getting
a star Wars mall, shadow Lord, and then Ahsoka
season two. And yeah, Ahsoka season two, you
know, I'm really interested in that shadow Lord
show. that like i heard uh what's his nuts uh
whitmer witwer talking about that yeah that like
i've never really cared about darth maul like
okay he got sliced in half he's dead he's gone
whatever i've seen clone wars i've watched clone
wars i saw him come back in clone wars he was
kind of cool but like i've never he's not a character
i've like uh whatever but um yeah i wish they
had better pictures of the stupid rodimus because
damn man like you can't do the guy some justice
over here anyway um but yeah no um yes uh shadow
lord i think it's cool that they're like giving
him like if ahsoka can have her own series if
the bad batch get their own series i think it's
all right the star wars has got to do something
i mean they got to figure something out until
the next movie whatever the next movie is going
to be i forget what the mandalorian and grogu
or whatever it is yeah there's that and then
um And then we also have, uh, they're bringing
Vader's apprentice, uh, star killer, which Sam
went where I think he voices. Yep. Yeah. He also
voices mall. Yep. Um, but he's, I, I think it
would be funny if he got to play the character.
Oh yeah, absolutely. Season two, which they had
to do. Cause the original actor that was, uh,
one of the Sith, uh had passed away sadly after
the season aired yeah but i i'm liking ahsoka
just because we have a lot of well i mean we're
getting a lot of the not only like clone wars
payoffs but we're also getting uh star wars rebels
payoffs And then we have the 3 -0 MDLX and DLX
Transformers, MDLX Rodimus, DLX Nemesis Prime,
Primal, and more shown. So this is the lost light
Rodimus when he turned purple. And I... So what's
the deal with that? Okay. It's part of the comic.
He repainted himself. It's an ego thing in the
comic. It's a, it's just an, it's an ego. I,
I don't remember exactly, but it was, it was
when they, so it was when they went to when I
do. So I, in IDW transformers, there are multiple.
1 .0, 2 .0, 3 .0 sections of... So IDW 2 .0,
they had More Than Meets the Eye and Robots in
Disguise. More Than Meets the Eye was Rodimus
and the crew of the Lost Light ship out in space
doing space adventures and other things. Robots
in Disguise was Starscream, Bumblebee. Metal
Hawk, and a bunch of other robots on Cybertron
doing political things and other things on Cybertron.
So if you read more than meets the eye, you're
going to get Rodimus and Rung and Tailgate and
Swerve and a bunch of other robots out in space.
And Rodimus is the leader of those group. And
he's the captain of the Lost Light ship. And
as that story progressed, it eventually IDW rebranded
and the comics became Lost Light and Optimus
Prime. Optimus Prime was the Cybertron book.
Lost Light was the Rodimus out in space book.
And something happened between the end of More
Than Meets the Eye and the beginning of Lost
Light where he... Decided to repaint himself
purple and all these other colors. The only problem
I have with these images, and I thought TFW would
have better images, is I can't see his fucking
head. Like, I know I'm legally blind, folks,
and I'm looking at this image, but like, does
he not have a head or am I just going insane?
Are you going insane? I think I'm going insane.
No. The other part I was trying to bring up and
I thought it was lumped into this group. It's
the Yolo Park. Yeah. Beast Wars figures. Yeah.
And they look like the masterpiece without transformation.
Yeah. I mean, they honestly do. Because you get
Dinobot, you get Blackarachnia, you get Optimus
Primal, and you get Megatron. Yep. And they look
cool. Yeah, they look really cool. You get a
bunch of posability. Yeah. I would be... Depending
on price, I'd be tempted on the Megatron. Where
is the Megatron? So... The post was made by TFW
on... On the 17th. Oh, OK. I just posted it in
the chat, but it's the. Like the primal looks
spot on. The Dinobot looks spot on. Megatron.
Yeah. So, I mean, don't get me wrong. I've got
the masterpiece of. Well, yeah. Two of these
four. yeah but these are just like they're nice
little display items that you don't have to worry
about breaking because they they literally just
stand there and you can pose them so i could
technically put the other ones in beast yep again
i don't want to sit here and and and insult the
brand or the figures or the characters or whatever
but these are essentially action masters they're
action masters but what i was going to say was
these are action masters if they were funko pops
the same day it's the same the only reason why
i say it's the same concept like you just said
you can have these stand there as the character
and you can just appreciate them that's the same
thing that i do with the funko pops it's just
the character i don't have to do anything it's
the same damn concept So, yeah. But anyway. Alrighty
then. Okay, so. What is today? Today is. Oh,
good. Hopefully it comes out at midnight because
I want to watch it as soon as it comes out. July
29th. So as of this recording tomorrow, but you
guys will probably hear this in the past, but
July 29th on Netflix. WWE, I don't know what
the hell it's actually. It's under the matter,
under the whatever it's, what the hell is this
called? WWE Unreal, How John Cena Turned Heel,
Sneak Peek. So that's the video I saw on YouTube.
And basically on Netflix, July 29th, they're
going to do a special of how they pulled off
John Cena's heel turn. And I am really excited
to see the behind the scenes for this because
nobody ever expected this. I have been watching
wrestling off and on my entire life. You heard
me talk about this recently on the Die Hard 5
episode. I saw Hulk Hogan, whatever date in 1980
-something, wrestling with Junkyard Dog against
the Funk Brothers and Hulk Hogan recently passed
away kind of thing. And I remember when I came
back into wrestling, John Cena had just debuted.
So I've been watching John off and on his entire
career over these last 20 -something, almost
30 -something years. and no one ever expected
john cena to turn heel so this is this the little
the link i sent you was just a video teaser clip
of the behind the scenes special that netflix
is gonna air i guess on the 29th of um how they
pulled that off and uh the biker mice are coming
back what you got on the biker mice so this is
interesting because again nacelle Is involved
with this. And I've seen the figures. In the
store. I'm kind of surprised. Because. Well.
I mean. They're highly detailed. They look animation.
They look good. I know they're doing an SDCC.
Exclusive three pack of them. Of the three main
characters. And I don't pretend to remember.
Any of their names. I know Rob Paulson voice
is one of them. This animated reboot. Is going
to be executive produced by Ryan Reynolds. Brian
Volkweis and George Dewey. Right. To have the
humor, heart and action made the original series
to stand out. And then it'll join the RoboForce
animated series, which is produced by Dwayne
Johnson. Volkweis and Dana Garcia as part of
the, uh, expanding Nacelle verse lineup. Uh,
so Brian Volkweis is the CEO and founder of Nacelle
and, uh, yeah, they're, uh, they're figures.
I mean, they've got magnets, they've got, you
know, the figures, they've got the, what's funny
is there's a couple of different versions. Like
they have those, you know, really crappy. You
know how they had the Transformers that were
just like the little three inch tall. Yep. Figures.
So they've got them here, too, of some of them,
of some of the biker mice. And then they've got
the fully articulated ones, which are the, you
know, your twenty five dollar figure line. What's
funny is they're all clearanced. All of the nacelle
stuff is clearanced at Walmart. Oh, no. It's
the only place they sell it is Walmart. Oh, no.
But it's all clearance for like half price, which
tells me they don't sell. So the only way they're
going to is if people buy them directly, like
because I can't see Walmart continuing to, you
know, get them and then clearance them out. OK,
so how is this company making money if these
toys aren't selling? Evidently, they are somewhere
or they're getting some cash deal somewhere because
there's no way. I don't understand it. I don't
understand it either. Hey, Brian, if you want
to come on the podcast and talk to us about it,
let us know. Don't get me wrong. I love their
work. I love the Transformers. Not the Transformers,
but the biker mice that they've created. I like
the Star Trek stuff that they're going to be
coming out with. But I honestly have no idea.
Yeah, that's crazy. Absolutely crazy. And then
we end where we began back at Star Trek. Comics
and audio podcasts. Yay. Yep. So, yeah, there's.
There's there's two things. There's the Star
Trek, the last starship. Which is. It takes place
after the burn. And in discovery timeline, like
it's before the discovery shows up. But it's
after the burn. Which I still think is a stupid
thing, but I digress. uh the last starship will
reveal the story of the burn the cataclysmic
event that was hinted at in star trek discovery
it didn't really hint at it they like literally
did a flashback and showed that the second that
these ships try to use warp drive because some
of saru someone of saru's race was tied to a
dilithium mine like born on it and had some psychic
energy with the the dilithium that was put in
all the ships through a tantrum and then all
of the dilithium and all the ships exploded jesus
causing all the ships to go away like literally
that's what it was it was like they were trying
to do a really poor excuse for like the genesis
planet where spock when he was growing right
and had the growing pains where the plant the
genesis planet would shake and start you know
erupting yeah and it was like they were trying
to do that but with this So anyways, they're
doing this story and they're claiming that it's
a story about how you hold on to hope and to
motivation when you're completely alone. How
do you hold to the core of the end of all things?
The biggest reveal is that James T. Kirk would
be resurrected in The Last Starship. And they
were like, but it won't be just from nostalgia.
They're like, whatever you think we're doing
with Kirk, it's not playing a bunch of hits.
We looked at Trek history and said, who would?
the burn hurt the most. And then Kirk stood out.
So I don't understand what, unless they're trying
to play to the fact that Kirk, like he loves
the Federation, like Starfleet and would do anything
for it. So I'm wondering if that's where this
is going. Um, because they have, they even have
a Kirk class starship in the future. Like when
discovery shows up and, you know, a constitution
class. like a new a new constitution past the
one that was in Picard because they have a neo
constitution which is constitution class three
but I'm wondering how they're going to bring
Kirk into this I know that they're playing with
a plot hole that Picard season three showed in
the section 31 space station because Kirk's remains
were in it from after generations and he was
alive ah yes so they reanimated him after he
died on on viridian 3 so i'm wondering how how
this plays out unless they watch him explain
the fact that oh because he was in the nexus
he didn't actually die it started like a doctor
who moment and he had a rebirth so he's younger
now um or they cloned him i don't i don't know
but Or used Borg nanites to revive them like
they didn't in William Shatner's book, The Return.
I don't know. We'll find out in this, but it'll
be interesting to see how he's back. And then
the fact that it's literally almost 800 years
after he died. Wow. It'll be interesting. I'm
looking forward to seeing how this one plays
out more than the red shirts like the red shirts.
honestly don't care i'll i'll check it out but
i honestly don't care this this i'm because kirk's
in it i'm like i'm i'm intrigued i saw the the
red shirts comic from idw i was like hey i was
like hmm i wonder which one's gonna go first
and which one's gonna go last the the real irony
would be is if they all survived well they said
that they won't but yeah well okay fine but you
know but uh yeah so then the last thing we've
got uh for the news portion is like star trek
con audio series Which their their all new scripted
podcast set to premiere on Star Trek Day, September
8th, 2025. Hmm. OK. And it's it's going to be
they're going to be doing some time jumps. With
it. So they're saying Khan is back. He's actually
dead. Based on the trailer. It explores the untold
events in CD Alpha 5, chronicling Khan's descent
from a superhero and human visionary into the
vengeful villain seen in Wrath of Khan. New episodes
will release weekly on Mondays through November
3rd. And it sounds like it's just going to be
free. It just says wherever you get your podcast.
So I'll be checking it out. They're going to
have Khan in it. They're going to have another
actor play Lieutenant Marla MacGyvers, who came
from the original series Enterprise Ship and
went with Khan when he got outcast. And then
they're going to have this new character, Dr.
Rosalind Lear, who is going to be on the Excelsior.
Because she's chronicling. what happened on City
Alpha 5 and the stuff pertaining to Khan. And
we get George Takei coming back as Captain Sulu
and Tim Russ reprising his role, but as a younger
Tuvok, like an Ensign Tuvok on the Excelsior.
Nice. And they're playing into the fact that
those two were on an episode of Voyager together
playing this. you know kind of thing this this
dr rosalind lear is going to be kind of digging
into the whole of of con and and the cd alpha
5 and trying to get like to the bottom of the
story of it but it's actually like 10 15 years
after con was killed so it'll be interesting
to see how this plays out it's also uh written
and directed by Nicholas Meyer, who wrote and
directed Star Trek to the wrath of Khan and Star
Trek six, the undiscovered country. Nice. Very
cool. So if anybody knows about Khan, it's this
guy. Oh yeah, absolutely. That's cool. So yeah,
I'm, I'm super excited to see how this one comes
out and I will be checking it out. Very awesome.
Very awesome. So with that, Happy Gilmore too,
but yeah. Did you want to go first on your thoughts?
What have we been saying recently? Don't wait
X number of years to make a freaking sequel.
I will say it was worth it. But yeah, they they
did wait too long or they could have had chubs.
Yeah, but like, OK. He was supposed to be in
it. Yeah, I know he was supposed to be in it
because they had to rewrite. Yeah, they rewrote
the movie after he died in 2024. So as I was
watching them, so here's how I. i had a rough
night last night i ended up going to bed at like
eight o 'clock which means i woke up at 2 a .m
this morning and by this morning i mean the morning
of uh july 28th 2025 so it's a monday i hate
mondays but uh so i'm like okay i'm gonna go
ahead and watch the movie take my notes and that
way i'll be ready for the recording when we record
the podcast So I'm sitting here and I'm doing
this and doing that. And I know what Sandler's
humor is. I know what the Happy Gilmore humor
style is because I saw the movie 29 years ago.
I know what the original Happy Gilmore is like.
The first 10 minutes, I'm like, I really hate
this fucking movie. I'm like, I want this movie
to be over with. Do I really have to watch this?
I was I was I was kind of upset the first 20
minutes of the movie, like watching his life
spiral. I'm like, oh, this sucks. And why did
it have to be him that? Oh, my God. Acts like
a golf ball killed his wife. Really? I know she
really. So anybody listening to this, this happens
in the first 10, 15 minutes of the movie. There
will be extreme spoilers from here on out. If
you've heard that, I'm sorry, but. Yeah. Anyways.
Yeah. I was, I was really perturbed. Like she
opened her mouth and I was like, Oh, what the,
like, why? Okay. So when, when she opened, okay.
So yes, when it happened, I knew, I knew. Spoiler,
spoiler, spoiler, spoiler, spoiler, spoiler.
And if you want to do some, Oh, you know what?
When you edit this, I'm going to send you the
Joker clip. So that way you can cut before, like
in the edit before, before I even started talking
five minutes ago or whatever it was, you can
cut that Joker clip in spoilers. So here's what
I thought was going to happen in that scene when
he raised up and hit the ball and the ball went
where it went. I didn't think it was going to
hit her in the head. I thought she was going
to end up swallowing it. And I thought it was
going to, go right in her mouth and she was going
to swallow it and choke to death. That's what
I thought was going to happen. But no, it hits
her in the head. And I'm sitting here thinking
you got killed by a golf ball. Really? Really?
So as the movie progresses, I, I fast forwarded
a few times through some of the shenanigans through
some of the slapstick. Cause I really don't like
happy Gilmore slapstick. It was just a little
too much for me. It's not that it disgusted me
or what it was just a little, like, I'm like,
okay, we get it. Well, the mooning and like,
yeah, like whatever, get on with the story already.
And then as I'm watching the movie and his life
spirals, But he gets it back on track and he
goes to the thing and does the thing. I'm like,
this is just the first movie all over again.
30 something, almost 30 years later. That's all
it is. Seriously. His life, like the first movie,
he loses his grandma's house. He lays on the
couch. The movers are like, yeah, go. You can't
play hockey. Go get golf. He meets Chubbs. Chubbs
teaches him blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Same shit happens in this movie. His life spirals.
He goes back to golf. He starts drinking during
the first couple of golf sessions. Well, he starts
drinking everywhere. The grocery store. Yeah,
exactly. Finding the hidden flasks everywhere
was hilarious. Oh, my God. No. Oh, God. I am.
Okay. I know I'm going to sound like a straight
edge person, but I will say, and I've said this
on podcasts in the last 17 years that I've been
podcasting the last 16 and a half years of this
network. I've had alcohol in my lifetime. Hell,
my uncle got me drunk on a fishing boat in 1987
when I was seven years old. So don't get me wrong.
Okay. I've had alcohol. It's all right, but it's
not my thing. So normally I don't drink. And
I went through something with my late wife where
she needed certain amounts of certain alcohols
to deal with her pain. Okay. But like, like,
I don't know. It would. It didn't offend me.
I'm not so soft where it's like, oh my god, this
is the worst thing ever. This makes the movie
horrible. No. But it was just a little bit too
much of a spiral. But as he's spiraling out and
he comes back in, I'm like, oh, okay. So he's
getting his shit back together and this, that,
and the other thing and everything else. I'm
like, oh, okay, good, cool. And we get to the
point, the best part of the movie, where him...
and shoot a freaking shooter i love christopher
mcdonald oh he was awesome in this movie i felt
like this was more about him than it was like
happy yeah and i feel like they were giving him
a redemption arc okay i will say this now because
we're going to talk about this next year at some
point when we do the 30th anniversary for the
original film shooter mcgavin is not the villain
of either of these films He may seem like the
villain of the first film, but he really isn't.
The villain of these films is Ben Stiller. He
always has been. He always will be. Hate that
guy. The best thing. Yeah, Hal. Yeah. The best
thing that ever happened to that guy is his face
on Happy's golf ball at the end of this movie.
But no, shoot. Oh, shooter. Oh. The two of them
sitting at the grave and just talking, finally
having a moment and talking it out. Oh my God.
Loved it. Absolutely loved it. So good. Yeah.
Do I think this movie needed to be made now?
I guess, but probably, I don't know. I just,
it's just my thing about, the sequel thing like
we said waiting so long to do it kind of thing
that's the problem i have it has nothing to do
with adam sandler or christopher mcdonald or
any of the writers or the director or any of
the anything it's just the time thing and i saw
a news article somewhere and i took a screenshot
and i just told you i said the gist of the article
is this person who wrote the article said the
next adam sandler movie that needs a sequel from
years ago is big daddy and i'm like no don't
stop please no like excuse me i want to see an
adam sandler original in 2026 or 2027 I don't
mind his comedy. I know what his comedy style
is. I get it. I want, if he wants to do more
movies, great, but I want to see something new
from Adam Sandler. Like, okay. Happy guilt, Billy
Madison, happy Gilmore, the wedding singer, water
boy, little Nikki. I wouldn't mind if Billy Madison
follow up, but I don't, I don't think he could
do it because like Norm MacDonald's gone. the
the guy his dad's gone like yeah we don't know
we don't need i think that one's fine like okay
so okay what one would you want a sequel to like
51st dates okay but but here's the thing i want
a 51st date sequel where it's him and her but
in some sort of alternate dream sequence thing
it doesn't affect him and her but it has the
billy madison like tribute so you get um veronica
like you still like you get both like without
having to do a billy madison sequel you know
what i mean like instead of having to get all
of those characters you can get veronica i don't
know that would be stupid but if but like like
i said i want to see him do something new something
that he hasn't done before or some other something
like come up with something different come up
with something new like don't just go back to
the well great you've done happy gilmore too
it was a fairly good sequel it gave that character
a decent ending even though his wife is dead
i don't know it just because even though it's
been four years my wife's dead his wife's dead
i i don't know it just even though i've moved
on at this point you know what i mean it's just
i don't know it's just like i said yeah Please
just do something original, Adam. Well, he did,
and a lot of his newer stuff's been crap. Okay,
yeah, but... Hold on, let me... What did you...
Okay, give me your thoughts, because you haven't
really said your thoughts on it, so give me your
thoughts. I'm going to go on mute for a minute,
because I've got to look some stuff up, but talk
about Happy Gilmore 2. So... Happy Gilmore, too.
I. The start of the movie, I didn't really love.
I. I was a little surprised that they killed
his wife in the beginning. I was also surprised
that, like, he went down a drunk road and then,
you know, hell there. And. There's just been.
So many different callbacks to his old films.
And then, you know, he's meeting with his wife
in his happy place. He's playing golf with the
other kids. You know, he's at the grocery store
and he throws the guy in the lobster tank. The
guy in the lobster tank that he threw in that
that runs the Max or Maxi golf or whatever. I
absolutely hated him and all of his lackeys.
But I think it was also like his way of saying
like a lot of the new. the new hotness in media
and influencer crap is it sucks yeah because
it's all it's all uh it's all flash no substance
yeah and that was what he was i i that's the
allegory i kind of get from that is like just
because it's old you don't throw it away because
like it still serves a good purpose and so like
all those older guys playing golf and you know
and then um you know of course his his wife in
real life playing the dance instructor for his
real life daughter that was his daughter in the
program was funny and then his other daughter
was in the meetings with Hal and is the one that
turned him in by the end of the film and so that
was funny and then I didn't I didn't love Chubb's
son being in it I know that originally was supposed
to be a different type of character and you know
with Chubb's in it but uh you know they they
gave him somewhat of a redemption arc and he
was kind of there but he it was kind of unnecessary
then you get uh a lot of the repetitive beats
you know like uh the guy that was yelling jack
out you know um and then eminem was playing his
son yep and very same shtick same thing with
like chubb's son very same shtick with the hand
situation he's like how'd you lose your hand
alligator he's like no vending machine I was
like okay that's that's funny but it's stupid
and then like Eminem getting eaten by four alligators
yeah that was a little much it was it wasn't
much because like it really didn't show anything
but it was funny because he's like come on come
on and like he's getting bit and like he's just
standing there and then eventually just disappears
with really crappy like CGI um I thought you
know then he brought in Nick Swardson as like
the guy that had the shoe stuck up his rump Yeah.
And managed to do the weird twist thing and,
you know, could rocket the ball. And then all
of the maxi guys could do it because they cut
something in their spine. It just looked weird,
especially with Haley Joel Osment doing it. Oh,
that's what I wanted to bring up. He was weird,
man. OK, when I looked at the when I looked at
the cast listing for this and I saw that that
Mr. Six said, I was like, wait, what? That's
the kid from this. Oh, wow. He grew up weird.
But yeah, it was it was kind of it was kind of
interesting seeing him in there. And then like
Adam, Adam Sandler, you know, happy is like,
oh, yeah, whatever, Bill. And he's like, my name
is like just and then happy gets in a technicality
because I get quit. Yeah. And. And then finding,
you know, the guy you threw out the window in
the first movie, you know, for stealing, taking
grandma's house. And then he's like, I became
something else so that people didn't hate me
as much. I became a lawyer. And they're like,
you thought becoming a lawyer was going to make
you less hated? You know, the kids and he's like,
oh, but I did like how Shooter, he was a little
nuts. especially when it came to the gold jacket
and then um he seemed more like unhinged but
he also could channel you know the classic shooter
when needed yeah and he came unhinged when that
guy was like you're gonna you're gonna lead these
new golfers and he's like we did this one he's
like that is not golf yeah like yeah that was
good uh that was one of my favorite things and
then he actually like we find him in the graveyard
and that's how he like connects with happy and
then they both kind of just they're like yeah
we're too old for this crap like just they're
like let's just call it a day like and then they
just kind of found common ground and moved on
from the whole situation but uh i don't know
i i really enjoyed shooter and happy's interactions
as the film went on i loved the the fact that
he got the redemptive hit yep and then he did
you know an adam sandler's uh happy like caused
him to do that he's like come on shooter he's
like he's like he's gone he's long gone he's
like no he's still in there and he like folds
his hand into the you know and that was good
yeah and then and then you got all of it back
and and i was like okay this is great and the
the weird way that they had to golf was was really
strange Yeah, so there's what is it? There was
another movie that did this kind of thing, and
I can't think of what it was, but there has been
a couple of movies that they not Caddyshack to
because I know that had a golf course like this
because Jackie put it in there. But I don't like.
i don't know it was just freaking weird and that
guy ran the maxi oh god he was he was annoying
i did love when shooters like i don't like this
blah blah and then he just like chucks the uh
chucks the coffee in his face yep and then during
the thing the guy's like crap talking shooter
and he's like let me throw coffee in the other
eye exactly He's like, where's my pancakes? That's
right. Where's my pancakes? Give me that syrup.
But yeah, I just I hated that guy. I thought
it was funny that Happy threw him in with the
lobsters. He's like, hey, turn off the security
cameras in this area for like five minutes. And
he threw him in and he got like bit up by lobsters.
And then the guy had like fart breath. Yep. Which
I was like, okay, this is curd humor. I'm like,
it's stupid, but it's funny. And then by the
end of the movie, you find out that his drink
is like causing like this oh boy the thing in
their mouth to like yeah completely rot away
their mouth which is why he had fart breath yeah
there's something wrong with the energy drink
yeah so some of the some of the humor was a little
much but some of it was funny but really where
and again where adam sandler's movies excel for
me is in the emotional moments like we already
said with the with the with the him and shooter
at the gravesite uh with him and shooter at the
golf course you know helping each other out kind
of like that okay the best thing in happy gilmore
too to me is that happy and shooter became friends
If you had told me in 1996 that in 1997 we would
get Happy Gilmore 2 or 1998 where they became
friends, I would have never believed you. But
almost 30 years later. Yeah, sure. Awesome. Great.
That's amazing. I was left with. When the movie
ended, I was left with, OK. Happy, you know,
chapter is good. The book can close. We don't
need any more. Please don't do any more. Happy
Gilmore. We're good. I think they left it off
on a good note. I don't feel like we need a new
one or we should get another one. I feel like
that wrapped up the story. Absolutely. Absolutely.
so yeah but yeah i mean just my my final thoughts
on it before we go into like another time where
we do a full -on review i would give it a 4 .5
out of 5 just i mean the sandler jokes aside
i thought it was really funny and entertaining
and the nostalgia was kind of on point Yep, absolutely.
So I'll probably give it a four out of five.
I I got to take a full point off for some of
the some of the humor was just a little much
for me, but four out of five is not bad. I mean,
I skipped the parts where, like, obviously his
kids were mooning him. Yeah, but yeah. It was
fun either way, so. let us know as we close out
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