Microsoft E3 Press Conference Roundup

Thanks. And welcome to Off the Cuffs E3 special

presentation. For the first segment, I am your

host, Michael Powers. I'm joined by Joe Reed.

Hello. We will be discussing the Xbox One E3

conference, which just ended, so everything is

a gut reaction to what we saw Microsoft say on

stage. I have not been following around the internet

to see what other people have to say, so these

are our opinions and our opinions alone and we

may be wrong on some of this stuff but again

this is going off of what we heard on stage and

the few notes that i managed to take before i

realized i didn't care a lot about what they

were saying right um i guess to to start uh as

some people expected there was a new xbox 360

model announced um smaller uh presumably lighter

not necessarily faster uh they did not announce

a price And I have not looked up a price online

GameStop didn't have anything on it. I did peek

there to see so Not a whole lot we can say about

that except. It's another It's a smaller black

box and it says Xbox 360 on it, and it did appear

to have a disk drive Which is good. I was kind

of thinking that if they did another smaller

one They would remove the disk drive and just

have everything be download only But they announced

three games Coming out this year for the Xbox

360 from Microsoft. Anyways, there will probably

be more One is apparently a really popular free

-to -play game called World of Tanks It looked

I don't know. It was very frenetic crazy overwhelming

not exactly cartoony, but Just so frenetic that

it kind of had that cartoony atmosphere 15 on

15 online play And like Mike said, free to play,

but it wasn't scorched earth, so I didn't care.

It looked to me, I mean, it looked like fun,

but to me, it looked like you were playing on

a model set, which I think is what the appeal

of it looked like to me. Like a tabletop game

with real tanks. I have a feeling that it's going

to be like that, that you play to unlock this

real tank from World War II, Germany, la, la,

la, la. that's the kind of fun that a lot of

people are having with it are playing and unlocking

to get these weird tanks and then using them

to set up matches that are let's do this versus

this and see what happens let's all use this

ancient type of tank and see what happens and

and by playing to unlock being free to play you'll

actually also be able to spend real world dollars

To unlock tanks and stuff like that so I'm not

to mention along with the real -world dollars

Microsoft is also getting rid of space points

I Really I know I jumped ahead there, but I really

cannot stress how happy I am about that Yeah

Maybe I guess There was always that weird conversion

sixteen Hundred equals $20 yeah, I don't know

why that was ever why they ever thought that

was necessary with Don't know that was a good

idea. I think was just a fool to consumer Realist

I mean honestly, I think that's what it was was

like you you're not really aware of how much

you're spending on a game It's just you're you're

spending money to get points and so you you're

aware that there's a transaction there But when

you go to make a micro transaction or something

like that You're not really aware of how much

you're actually spending you don't know how much

400 points is when you buy that expansion, right?

But you know the smart person knows that's five

bucks But I for one am glad because Nintendo

and Sony they both do the real -world money Which

is you know that's I've always appreciated that

over the the space points Another game that they

showed off for the 360 was Max Curse of the Brotherhood

which to me kind of brought up References to

Psychonauts is what it really looked like to

me kind of a cross between Psychonauts and Oh

Frick that brilliant indie game limbo limbo.

Thank you I think I think it it may some of the

some of the on -screen UI suggested that it may

have some kind of connect integration yeah, there

were markers flitting around on the screen drawing

bridges and cutting things and Unless it's kind

of like a, um, what's that Nintendo game that

came with Rob the Robot? Um, Gyromite. Yeah,

unless it's like Gyromite where the character

just moves left to right and you manipulate the

environment for him. Huh. I don't know. I just

pulled that out of nowhere because it's kind

of like, well, it's kind of like if it's a Kinect

game, how can you use a control? Because it looked

like there was some platforming involved. So

it's kind of like, how can you control the character

and manipulate the world with the camera? I want

to see more asymmetrical co -op happening in

a lot of these games, and I think that would

be fun too. I'm holding the controller to do

the platforming, you're holding the controller

to draw these things, or using the Kinect in

the case of Microsoft. I want to see more asymmetrical

co -op happening. I can get behind that. The

last 360 game they announced, and I believe this

is coming to all platforms, it was actually Dark

Souls 2. I have no love for Dark Souls. I have

no hate for it either. I haven't played it. I

don't know. When I feel that way about the game,

I have to say that if it were actually good and

actually worth playing, I would have... Probably

played it right now because the people in my

circle of friends and interest group would would

have said yeah You need to play this game so

the fact that I haven't yet means I probably

wouldn't care if I did right I've heard I haven't

heard anything bad about I've heard like it's

it's good. It's grueling in that way that old

-school games are It's unforgiving and there's

like a little bit of skill involved in it But

you know I don't I don't know a whole lot I don't

want I don't want to say all that either because

like I said I haven't played it so Are you Just

kind of disappointed they didn't have more 360

things to show I'm I'm honestly I'm disappointed

in the whole next -gen thing and I can't decide

if it's because I'm old school and Too old school

to a point where I'm just can't get into this

new stuff Or if they really are just giving me

the same old thing that I've seen before You

know for the last two generations and just don't

care Because I've already seen it and so yeah,

I'm Terribly overwhelmed. I don't know what they

could have done to make me more excited I Don't

know do we do we discuss the price point because

that's a gigantic barrier. Well. I want to talk

about that at the end yeah But we can move on

to the Xbox one yeah now I made a list of the

games that they announced and I put a star next

to the ones that I that they either that they

said or I think are exclusives. And they did

announce a fair amount of games. I've got one,

two, three. I've got more than 10 here. And like

you pointed out, they didn't mention television

at all. No. And that's great. You know, they

did. They said exactly what they were going to

do, which is they showed off some games. The

big one, which they opened their conference off

with, was Metal Gear Solid 5. but that's not

an exclusive I think they said it will have surface

or smart glass exclusive content but that's about

it I mean the game looks good I mean I'm excited

for Metal Gear Solid 5 the more I think about

the Metal Gear series lately the more I'm ready

for a new one I mean the last one I played was

in 2008 which is Metal Gear Solid 4 I just went

on this huge I had a conversation with a a friend

who's a real Metal Gear Solid fan to figure out

where Metal Gear Solid 5 fits into the timeline.

And then I went to Wikipedia and found the Metal

Gear Solid timeline. And it's actually kind of

interesting how everything kind of weaves together.

Yeah, I once read the Wikipedia to that. And

afterwards, I was just as confused as I was when

I started. I know, right? Some of this makes

sense. Some of it still doesn't make sense. So

now I've I what was it? Metal Gear, Twin Snakes,

the one that was on PS1. For a time was in my

top fave top five favorite games of all time,

like two or three. Uh, and I loved it. I love

the way it kind of bent video gaming and broke

the walls and kind of creeped into your living

room while you're playing it with the controller

and the way it vibrates or, uh, how it read your

memory card. And I really enjoyed the game play

the stealth. Uh, but then when it got re -released

on game cube and I played it's like, this is

my third favorite game of all time. and just

it seemed I've always been kind of annoyed by

a lot of anime and how the characters speak and

ever since playing it again on GameCube it's

always had that who can love bloom on the battlefield

I don't know I'm a weary warrior with colors

in my eyes and and it I just I can't get into

it anymore I I don't know See, I kind of gloss

over that stuff. I look more at the... Obviously

what you're talking about is very much a part

of the Metal Gear franchise. But I kind of look

at it from the gameplay and the stealth aspects

of it, which I find the series to be fun in those

regards. And I find that stuff that you mentioned

to be like the lighthearted side of a game that

would otherwise be very depressing. So maybe

it kind of bounds itself out, in my opinion.

But like I said, I'm looking forward to it. I'm

just glad it's not an exclusive, as Major Nelson

accidentally said on Twitter and then later reversed

moments later. So for a second, I was kind of

getting a little nervous there. And then I was

like, oh. I don't want to have to buy this thing.

Yeah. You'll find out why later. The next thing

that they showed off was it was actually supposed

to be an Xbox 360 game which might explain why

It didn't really ruffle any of Joe's feathers

that well, yeah The one that debuted after that

was rise Which looked to me like a current -gen

game a really good -looking current -gen game,

but not an Xbox one game at all. It just did

not appear to be next gen. And on top of that,

it just seems like a very standard hack and slash

with quick time elements. There's nothing new

there. And I mean, I'm watching on mute the Spike

TV coverage of E3 and they're going on and on

about this game. Like this is the one that they're

choosing to spend 15 minutes after the presentation

on. It should be said that I I watched it streaming

Joe like you said he watched it on spike and

I don't I I don't think either one of these mediums

are Good to show you these games As we talked

about on like our last special podcast that you

know it it requires a considerable amount of

bandwidth in order for them to be able to deliver

the visuals to your home when they're not playing

directly connected to your TV. I think it took

way longer to say that than it needed to. But

there were some things in the rise demo that

kind of stood out, which was the clothing effects.

There was little if no clipping going on. Like

his hand was or his leg wasn't going through

his skirt or the metal plating over top of the

leather skirt. Like it wasn't, you know, colliding

with and passing through the leather. We should

point out, I think it's a Roman Gladiator looking

type game. It's made by Crytek. So it's running

on the Crysis 3 engine, which I guess confirms

that the Crytek engine does run on the Xbox One.

Duh. But yeah, it just seemed kind of like standard

fare. Like I said, it was supposed to be a 360

Connect title. Couldn't really get an idea of

how much the connect was being used in the game

Didn't look like much at all Yeah, so probably

will be some tacked on minigame thing like a

lot of those well in the The Xbox 360 reveal

video for it was I mean you basically stood in

front of your TV And you put your arm up for

your shield and you swung for your sword And

it was like a zel it was like one of the Wii

Zelda games without the motion controller Which

didn't address how you walked around the world

or anything like that, so I don't imagine you'd

be marching around your family room but You know

passing by that one Seemed like the next one

was kind of a nostalgia trip at least for you

and I yeah Killer Instinct was after that and

of everything that I saw during the entire conference

was the only thing that I actually kind of cared

about. Definitely not anywhere near enough for

me to buy a new console and I know if I were

to buy a new Killer Instinct that I would not

have the time to learn moves like I did when

I was 14 years old playing it. But I do love

the game, the series and what it did for all

the other and Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter

the way that it influenced them. But as long

as they don't make Cinder's eight hit combo any

harder to pull off, I think you'll be just fine,

Joe. That said, I will say, well, this game got

me excited. Again, not enough to spend the money

that they're asking for. It was one of the games

on the list that I was kind of like. Especially

when they revisited it to show you an Xbox live

a new Xbox live feature later in the conference

it was I It was why is this an Xbox one game?

Yep And we should pause for a moment right here

because they're talking about thief. Are you

excited for thief? I Am excited for thief. Okay.

Well, it's there. I'll pause it Me I was one

of the it's one of the first games that I was

kind of like Why is this on the three? Why is

this on the Xbox one and not on the 360? And

and my theory on that just goes kind of what

they usually do when the new systems come out

the day We have these developers working on games

and then all of a sudden Microsoft decides to

drop a development kit in their lap and they

go well why don't we just move that one over

and you know it doesn't get the graphics upgrade

and maybe it gets a couple of the new connect

type features online features and after that

that you're getting a old gen game on a new gen

system and that's bound to happen a couple times

and also i was kind of disappointed in the fact

that they didn't go i remember the killer instinct

game was originally a nintendo fighting game

not owned by nintendo but um It was on the Super

Nintendo, the Game Boy, the N64, and then it

disappeared. And it was big in the arcades, but

one of the things that it was kind of known for

was that pre -rendered look of the characters.

I was actually kind of bummed that they didn't

go with that look again. At least that's not

the way it looked in the stream. In the stream

it kind of looked like just every other generic

fighter now. Yeah, well, I think that's just

going to happen with modern graphics now, because

everything looks as good as those old pre -rendered

things. It would have been so cool to see, like,

to have them actually realize the pre -rendered

look, like the Toy Story -esque style visuals

to the characters. Would you hesitate to say

cell shaded? I'm very has well because the original

killer instinct wasn't cel -shaded no no no it

was I I Wouldn't want to see cells cel -shaded

at all I'm just saying it would have been like

it feels like yeah what we saw was the natural

evolution of what they started on the the Super

Nintendo and the n64 but It I was kind of bummed

that it wasn't like they didn't there wasn't

really like an homage to that in any way I'm

gonna they didn't show off very many characters.

I think they showed Jago I think there was like

a screenshot of Glacius. Glacius was there. They

showed him forming with ice crystals everywhere.

No Fulgor, no Peorkid. So, but again, that was

kind of the one. But again, we all kind of thought

that one was showing up anyways. Because I think

they re -registered the trademark not too long

ago. The next one. On the list is another exclusive

and this one was like a kind of a big one for

me because the developer has been a Sony exclusive

Developer up until their latest game fuse which

which is the developers insomniac games They're

making a game called sunset overdrive. They showed

off a cinematic no gameplay footage. No nothing

my initial reaction was Here's where the art

style for fuse went Because it kind of looks

like a Pixar Team Fortress 2 mashup. I know,

Joe, you said you weren't aware of what Fuse

was or what happened to it. Basically, Fuse was

the original concept trailer for Fuse. It was

called Overstrike. It was a very cartoony looking

game, like Pixar's Incredibles or Team Fortress

2. And it was this co -op based shooter. But

then they decided somewhere in development, they

did a focus test and it was not very well received

or something like that. So the developer Insomniac

Games decided to turn it into generic co -op

shooter. And so it went from being bright and

colorful to, you know, browns and grays and just

being like a generic Gears of War kind of clone.

And it's... I guess. Some people say it's good,

some people say it's bad. I haven't played it.

I don't want to form an opinion. I just know

that's what happened to the art style. I was

kind of disappointed about that because I thought

the art style was one of the unique things about

it. And then they completely did away with it.

And I guess some of the humor that's in the game

doesn't really work because they changed the

art style but not the humor. It's kind of the

reverse of what happened to the Borderlands franchise

where they started out in browns and grays and

then they were like, oh man, we're gonna end

up being just like fallout and Rage so they flipped

it and went with this cartoony art style and

to massive success But it looks like for anyone

that wanted over strike it looks like all of

those resources went to Sunset Overdrive It looked

They showed some kind of free running bit that

was at the beginning of the thing before you

saw it that you were actually shooting things

and it looked a little bit like the free running

from Mirror's Edge and then all of a sudden guns

came out and some type of zombie monster. Yeah

and wacky gun power -ups and everything around

blowing up and it kind of actually looked a little

entertaining. Yeah, the whole thing does look

entertaining. It's just, you know, and it does

look like they have some kind of co -op element

because there were other guys and just your guy.

But kind of it's the one I think is on this list

is the one that shocked me the most because it

was a Sony, a known Sony property or company.

And I wish Sony would have bought them, but they

let them go and do their own thing. Maybe Sony

knew what was going to happen. I don't know.

Uh, cause fuse didn't land on all fours, like

a ranch at ratchet and clank or kind of like

a resistance does. Um, so yeah. Uh, I know you're

excited about the next one. Maybe. Well, yeah.

Forza five. I've, I've always been a Forza guy.

Um, more than Gran Turismo. If you're going to

compete, I didn't have access to Gran Turismo

when I first discovered Forza. What I've always

liked about the series was that it. could be

arcadey if you wanted to but you could also turn

everything down and make it a really good simulator

and eventually you know I'm playing this and

then I get a hold of a Gran Turismo I also like

how Forza is arcadey enough that you actually

can access all of the cars and drive them whenever

you want and don't have to go through silly loops

and jump through and unlock the cars that you

actually want to ride and drive. And then there's

the customizing in the Forza series that I enjoy

quite a bit. But the new features for Forza 5

on the Xbox One, the most shocking or interesting

one is the cloud -sourced AI, where the game

at all times is watching how you race and what

you do and what decisions you make. situations

and is kind of building. What did the guy call

it? A drivatar? Yeah, that goes and sits out

in the cloud. And then when your friends play

or when you play your there's no more on the

disk AI that's racing around you. It's using

other people's driver information to control

the behavior of the cars around you. So when

it I don't know how to even describe it. You

described it as. Yeah, my oversimplification

of the whole process was it's capturing a basically

what was known as a ghost lap from like, you

know, Joe, if you were to race plague, you know,

race a track on a on a racing game and then I

play that same track. I would see like a ghost

image of your car and what you did. I would have

no way of interacting with your car, but I could

at least see where you were on the track. And

if I'm beating you, if I'm doing better or worse,

whatever, I feel like an oversimplification of

the Drivatar or the cloud -based AI in the game

is it's just taking a snapshot of it's making

taking everyone's a ghost image of everyone,

of how someone did on a certain track and it's

now making those, the other AI drivers are ghost

versions of your friends and you can now collide

with them. They are now a physical entity on

the racetrack. I feel like the only computations

that are taking place are if you hit their car

and nudge them off of their predetermined course

around the track. This is where I disagree or

would take issue with it being called a ghost

because the guy implied that when you If it'll

also map your driving style to cars you've never

driven or on tracks that you've never been on

so it's to me it sounds like it's taking more

about the I said oversimplification yeah I know

and I. I agree but yeah it's it is a vast oversimplification

but yeah it's it's the coolest thing about about

the game that I've heard so far and it's the

coolest way coolest. This should be said that

any time Microsoft used the war anyone got up

on stage and said cloud sourced Anything that

means always online. Yep Will there be cars if

I go downstairs and turn off my broadband modem,

right? Well, I'd imagine there would but what

will it be as good? I mean, I'd imagine they

probably just default back to your AI Your standard

AI connection on you know from like four is a

four Yeah, and I wouldn't even be surprised if

they just mapped the code over. Now, the next

one. That's about where I stopped writing down.

So, OK, I've got I mean, we can I didn't want

to go on this long with with the segments, but

so we can kind of rattle off these next ones

because they kind of got less interesting. Microsoft

got up on stage and made a big deal about how

they support any development and all this other

stuff, but they still. do not allow indie developers

to self -publish on their platform. I thought

that was a joke. Yeah, you still have to partner

with Microsoft or a third -party publisher in

order to get on their store. But what they did

get up there is hype Minecraft for the Xbox One.

Which I can already play. And I have to ask,

and I'm being completely... What's the word?

I'm ignorant here, maybe? Is Minecraft still

an indie game? I just I don't know I felt like

the wrong game to get up there and and say We're

still supporting any development The next game

after that was one that they showed off at their

announcement quantum break which I Think this

is the first game that you actually said this

looks next -gen. Yep And I I immediately saw

what? uh what you were referencing um the demo

was kind of neat uh the way that they even the

demo video they showed at their announcement

and this one i think the way that they're playing

with time is kind of neat with like slow motion

and things only being able to slow down for slow

down for so long and it looks like the main character

can touch objects and bring them back into real

time But if he lets go of them, then they default

back to their slowed state I don't know. It's

a it's another game by remedy. I hear they make

great games They started out with the Max Payne

series and moved on to Alan Wake Which Danner's

famous joke is Alan Wake was supposed to be a

launch title and we didn't get it for another

six years I Wonder if that's what'll happen here

and they're really Do you have anything you want

to say about it? Nope. Nope. OK. Really quickly,

I think they did this a couple of times. They

slapped another trailer right on the end of Quantum

Break for a game called D4. No idea. I missed

that. Yeah, they slapped it right on it. There

was no like no guy came back up on stage and

announced it. It was just here it is. It was

like like hanging from it off of the back end

of Quantum Break. You know, I can't even remember

what the demo was about. Wait, no, this was the

one that I said was a connect game. It's the

It looked kind of cell shaded and the guy on

the train the comic bookie looking one Anyways

for me, I don't know Next year for that project

spark Which is an exclusive? It's being published

by Microsoft This looks like their answer and

it looks better than or more fun than and more

user friendly than a little big planet. Basically,

it's a world crafting thing and it kind of evolves

over real time. You you plop down your hero and

you plop down the enemies and you can manipulate

the A .I. of all the characters around you and

you can build up your your home base and anybody

can play your play in your world that you create.

My joke I made is, you know, you can share this

with, you can share your level with whoever you

want as long as they own the game too. Which

is the way everything is, but it was kind of

like, they, the way they talked it up, which

is it made it seem like you'd be able to use

it willy -nilly anywhere, but obviously that's

not the case. It's, it then, so they're, they're

playing this and it looks kind of like fable,

medieval. magic and then they showed a montage

of what these other people had come up with and

instantly I saw sci -fi, geometry wars clone,

space invaders clone, and there were tons of

other things that were kind of going by on all

these many different screens. So it really does

seem like it is kind of open -ended. Yeah, it

really looked a lot. It kind of reeked of a 3D

open world little big planet. Even right down

to their like their trailer presentation because

they did that Yeah, they did that smash cut of

all the little extra games you can build inside

of it. Yeah What I actually thought it kind of

looked like was an HD version of Minecraft Yeah,

well, yeah, I think my mind with that minus the

AI controlling Right. I'm saying like the looks

of it and the way you can craft your world and

stuff like that. And there was like a really

cool thing where you use the Kinect to tell it

what kind of world you want to craft and then

you use your tablet running smart glass to fine

-tune the world that you set up. Which, you know,

cool. That's great. I don't own smart glass and

don't plan on it. Right. Next one. There was

no audio for this one, which was great for the

presentation. got to hear people snickering and

everything in the background crimson dragon i

for some reason this reminded me of panzer dragoon

that's well i think it was made by the same people

okay um again it was just a quick thing no one

got up on stage to talk about it it kind of hung

on to the end of project spark kind of like d4

did to quantum break um the next one This is

where you and I started kind of figure like are

these are these exclusives or they're not exclusives.

And we're also trying to figure out what makes

this. A next gen game the first one was Dead

Rising 3. Which looked like a last gen game until

he went outside and I saw how a big the world

was be how many zombies there were and you had

a massive criticism which I agree with you on

this title. Yeah, it's all brown and grays. Dead

Rising 1 and 1, at least. I'm not entirely sure

about 2. Not 2, 2 happened in Vegas. I'm sure

it was bright and colorful. Yeah, there was a

lot of color in the games, and there was a lot

of humor. You could run around with a LEGO head

on your character, and you made all these preposterous

weapons. It was like a bow staff with a chain

saw on both ends. That stuff was crazy. I think

I'm going to go buy that game today. It was over

the top. This game... It it had the bowstaff

with the chingsaw on the end of it, but being

all in shades of brown and gray it It didn't

look fun Like the humor was sucked out of it

I would be interested in playing it because of

how it seemed to work and how big the world was

and and and that open -world nature of it, but

it's not the same Dead Rising that we had played

before. At least the video that they showed is

not the same one. I mean, there was, and again,

there was some funny stuff like you got in the

car and the zombies hanging onto the car while

it's flying through the air. And there is some

funny stuff. It just doesn't look like a Dead

Rising game. It looks more like a regular old

zombie game. Next up after that was Witcher 3.

Which looked great as expected because the Witcher

series is renowned for the way that it looks

I know my wife is excited for that one because

she enjoys that series The next one I think this

is where Joe kind of started getting into a little

getting into it a little bit regardless of the

franchise, but Battlefield 4 Yeah, that looks

really good. I think that is probably the best

looking game that I've seen during this presentation

because it's taking place inside a collapsing

aircraft carrier. Dynamic light sourcing everywhere,

particle physics everywhere, flying paper, cables.

bullets and artificial intelligence bad guys

everywhere. It was very, very dynamic. The entire

level is moving underneath you and you're being

asked to jump across and move from these falling

apart things. The environment seemed to be fairly

dynamic too, in that there's a point where he

shot the landing gear out from underneath this

airplane that was locked on this elevated diagonal

leaning platform and it skidded down and wiped

out a bunch of bad guys. All of that seemed very

interesting and exciting except that I really

am tired of first -person shooters because I've

already played those and I want something new

now. I'm right there with you and I agree with

everything you said except I want to throw out

the new industry buzzword that is 60 frames per

second. Everything that Joe just mentioned was

running at 60 frames per second, which is usually

not the case with games that look like this.

It's frostbite 3 which EA is moving everything

over to on there like the next Need for Speed

is on frostbite 3 Dragon's age is on frostbite

3 the next Mass Effect game is gonna be on frostbite

3 So it's like this is a tech demo for everything

that EA is gonna be able to do And it looked

great. I and I'm not I'm a fan of battlefield

when I'm playing on a PC I'm not a fan of battlefield

on a console And while I will say, like when

we were watching the video, that Battlefield

4, the Battlefield series, I think will always

trump Call of Duty graphically, but gameplay

wise, Call of Duty will always trump Battlefield.

Now, I've heard they're making tweaks, you know,

to to kind of fix Battlefield 4, make it feel

a little more Call of Duty friendly. But you

know obviously that remains to be seen and there

was a little thing at the end which I missed

because I was so bored with watching a first

-person shooter that I took a potty break There

is an exclusive map pack Coming to 360 first

not an exclusive game, but an exclusive map pack

We're getting it first means you'll all get it

eventually right now What's interesting and now

that's yes another interesting thing too because

battlefield has the battlefield DLC has in the

last generation debuted on the PlayStation 3

first and then went to Xbox Live or then went

to the 360 because Microsoft had the Call of

Duty exclusive content first and then that went

over to PlayStation. So this is kind of another

one of those ones where it's interesting like

what's going to happen tonight at 9 o 'clock

when Sony gets up on stage here, you know, what

are they going to... Show so they're gonna come

out and say 250 and drop the mic and walk home,

man. I would die I would just I Would just if

they just got up there or were like, yep, please

use games share them send them anywhere You want

to go? We'll let we'll let it go 250 I would

just I I would come close to pissing my pants

for real. I mean, I I'm not the I don't like

sony as a company have not liked sony as a company

but boy are they winning me over but more on

that later um the next the next game on the list

is kind of where i was like oh man oh man oh

man um it is a microsoft it's an xbox one exclusive

but again i don't understand why it wouldn't

come to the 360 uh this is another uh and it's

called below it's made by the guys that made

sword and sorcery for the ipad and steam and

just about uh I think it came to Android eventually.

I'm not entirely sure. I really enjoyed what

I played of Sword and Sworcery. The music was

amazing. It's made by a guy named Jim Guthrie.

I hope I didn't say his name wrong, but I love

his music. And this game looked like it had a

co -op element to it. Compared to everything

else they showed, it was a 2D game. Oh, yeah.

Top down. They said roguelike, which I think

it means you only have like one life to live.

Catch that yeah, so it looks and it looked interesting

and it Very not only was it a 2d art style. It

was pixelated like Atari style visuals Basically

updated with more colors and better color gradient

and and all that other stuff But it had this

pitfall Atari esque Type look to it kind of like

sword and sorcery does I like those games, but

I don't pay a lot for those games right And again,

no pricing for any of these games when they were

not announced. I know we were talking about before

the show that with all this online DRM and stuff

like that, that we were hoping that maybe some

publisher will wise up and pass the savings on

to the consumer. Because there's a lot of people

started pointing out that these rules that are

coming down on the next gen consoles are what

PC gamers have had to put up with for, I don't

know, like almost the last decade. Yeah, but

but they get $5 $40 games and we don't mm -hmm

so I mean maybe like like we said optimistically

we hope that they pass the savings on to the

gamer, but Part of me says why would they do

that when they can just make more money off of

a game yep? And development costs are through

the roof because these games take so much to

develop which is stupid The next game we saw

was a game called well actually we don't even

know what the game was called At first I thought

it was a crackdown three, but as Joe reminded

me while we're watching the video supposedly.

It's a new IP And then I made the joke that they

stole the siphon filter franchise from Sony It's

a game. Just it's a game by a company called

black tusk It's a brand new studio Microsoft

opened up in Toronto But uh yeah, no idea what

it is. It looks like a siphon filter splinter

cell s Stealth is a stealthy game Don't wasn't

gameplay that was shown all those a guy hopping

down the side of a building breaking through

glass Loading a gun and the camera went inside

the gun if I yeah and saw what I saw right yeah

And at that point it was kind of like you know

they make the big deal about it. It's an engine

But I'm pretty sure I'm never gonna see the inside

of a gun in your game If I do awesome, maybe

I use connect to move the bullet around I don't

know Now Next game I'm pretty sure Joe and I

heard them say it was going to be a new IP when

they were announcing it and so but I just kept

rattling off things that I thought it could be,

and I was like, Titanfall? No, and you kept saying

no, and then I... Journey 2? Yeah, we said Journey

2, we said Dust 2, we said... I think I even

said Destiny at one point, and you just kept

reminding me, no, it's a brand new IP, and then

no, what happens? This guy takes off his tarp,

you know, lowers his hood while he's walking

through the desert, and no, it's Master Chief

in a game that's simply titled Halo. Don't know

I object to them calling halo halo anymore because

I haven't seen a halo since what halo to like

the ring three I Think they mentioned them in

three and maybe they saw him in a cutscene or

something. Yeah Again, not a whole lot is known

I didn't look like a reboot because the master

chief they showed was kind of busted up But there

was no number associated with their announcement

The last one, and I think probably the most interesting

one that they showed was Titanfall from Respawn.

I don't know. There were things that I liked

more than what that was, but I could see why

people will want to play this and why it will

be cool. Now imagine if you could hook up your...

What is that controller called Joe? Oh the Italian

controller? I Just I don't want a new game for

that. I just want to play Steel Battalion again

on a big -screen television Titanfall looks like

it's from respawn studios Anyone that has been

following along it was formed by two people that

brought us Call of Duty modern warfare and I

Think they got almost done with modern warfare

2 and then they got ousted. It was this whole

big thing A lot of people suing people, countersuing,

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, money not being

paid. But they went and formed their own studio

called Respawn Studios. They partnered up with

EA and then it looks like they got back in bed

with Microsoft to create a game that also uses

cloud processing, which also means always on

for like AI and other particle effects. And it

looks like, I remember there was rumors that

Infinity Ward wanted to take Call of Duty into

the future. And Activision, maybe Activision

wasn't too keen on doing that. It looks like

Titanfall is that vision. There's a first person,

I'm a guy on the ground, you know, floating gun

on the screen. And then there's this moment where

you can get inside of a Titan, which is a mech.

Big Mac yeah, and then you can just start wrecking

havoc on everybody and stepping on some people

if I saw that correctly He and there was one

moment where he tackled another wreck and mech

and ripped the guy Pilot out of the inside of

him and so he's wiggling around in the mechs

hand before he chucks him across the map But

that was entertaining um It I've heard from some

places that this game may also be free to play

I've heard this No, this is this is this is speculation

complete speculation. I've heard that Titanfall

may be free to play But it is an Xbox one well,

it's an I'm gonna say Xbox exclusive because

it's also on the 360 but it's also on the PC

So but the 360 version is being made is not being

made by respawn. They farmed it out to another

studio, huh? so So that's a Pretty impressive

list. I think they delivered on what they said

they were going to do, which is we're just going

to talk about games when we show up at E3. That

definitely feels like they got the boring stuff

out of the way at their announcement. They did

not clear up a lot of their Xbox Live stuff.

That's what I'm disappointed that they didn't

cover, but I understand why they didn't. They

didn't do any damage control. And as sore a spot

as Microsoft is in right now, and even though

I think Sony is going to come out and make the

same announcements eventually, they're looking

really good right now because they haven't said

anything. And so with them in such a Sony in

such a position, I think Microsoft had to come

out and justify why they were making all of these

DRM choices, justify it by saying our games are

going to be cheaper, justify it by saying. This

is what's gonna happen in 20 years when the servers

are off They needed to say some of these things

and maybe they're gonna say it later at e3. Maybe

they're gonna say it in a press release not on

camera I don't know but they need to get one

get they need to get all of their people who

are talking heads to be on the same page and

And they need to get a consistent message that

makes me feel better about their system I've

I've also heard that they canceled all one -on

-one interviews with press Well, yeah, because

every one of them kept saying something stupid

and Xbox live Looks interesting they you know

they're taking a lot of things from what Sony

announced at the PlayStation 4 announcement Xbox

live will now include two free plate 360 games

That's kind of cool now the first two of those

being Assassin's Creed 2 and Halo Halo 4 3 3

3 I what was interesting about that to me is

they they made a very strong point of saying

they're yours. Yeah, I thought about that because

I think and you know, because you have it, but

on the PlayStation Plus, if you let that subscription

lapse, they go away, right? All your free games.

Yes, they go. They go away. But if you sign up

for it again, you get access. Yes, you get access

to them again. So just because like like if I

have a game that I got in my instant game collection

when it was part of it. But that game is no longer

part of the instant game collection. When I sign

back up, I still get that game. Even if it's

not available as part of the instant game collection.

But they did make a big deal about that. That's

your game, even if you choose not to pay for

your live subscription. So I'm curious. But what

they didn't talk about. They show some twitch

integration which is a way to stream your games

to the TV to You know through the internet so

people can watch and there was this thing about

You can you can pin it to the side of the TV

and you can see comments while you're playing

the game And they did it with a fighting game

like I don't know if I'm gonna be reading comments

on the side of my screen Well, I think that's

that's for everybody else. I think right and

it will also I don't want to give up that real

estate I saw an interesting webcomic the other

day about multiplayer gaming now where the screen's

divided in half. We could divide the screen in

half and give everybody a decent amount of multiplayer

real estate, but now we don't do in the same

room. Yeah. Multiplayer. I don't know. My television's

big, but. It's not that I would lose the real

estate. It's that I don't care that people can

watch me playing live like that and chat on it

I think I liked the way that the Sony's Their

integration worked and they're connected to friends

and show them videos that looked much more organic

than having like a Twitter feed open up and take

up and One of your screen what they didn't show

you was that can go away Mm -hmm like can you

broadcast without having that open? Like that

that that remains to be seen. But even when they

went to them, when they switched to like the

full screen, like just showing me like a big

game and the setup, there was that was still

a substantial portion of my TV that was gone

to a widget. And I don't want that. Yeah, I'm

sure it's I would never activate that feature,

which is to say that I wouldn't be activating

a lot of the Xbox one's features like that. It

just doesn't seem. I don't know. Everything I

have in my living room can do the things that

they're so excited to be showing me that the

Xbox one can do now The one thing that they didn't

announce was I I still think that there I said

this on Twitter and Facebook I still think there's

going to be a pricing structure change for Xbox

live and I think that's a I think they're gonna

they I don't think they didn't announce it here

because they don't want to bury themselves any

farther than they may have already done Think

I I don't know. I think that the online I think

the annual pass thing is gonna go away And they're

gonna do them. They're gonna do it month to month

and they're gonna charge more for it Like that

would be shady I think it's gonna be ten to fifteen

dollars a month because you're I Don't I don't

know cuz if they're like I understand why PlayStation

Plus yeah, it's $50 and you get the instant game

collection and they give you back your games

I get that like they take their games back if

you stop paying Microsoft has said that you know

you basically under the current setup for Xbox

live you give us $60 a year We're gonna give

you 24 games in one year for 60 bucks, and they're

yours like that doesn't does that like that doesn't

seem right to me does it seem right like Something

about that math doesn't add up Except that they're

those are old games that a lot of their audience

probably already has and how many games are gonna

be the same Right, but I'm just saying like what

that will do that'll get new subscribers who

don't have those games, right? I mean, it's a

way to build an instant. It's their instant game

collection I understand it, but I'm just saying

like that's a lot of stuff to get like technically

right now I could go return my copy of Halo 3

and I can get rid of my copies of Halo 3 and

Assassin's Creed 2 And I don't have to have that

box on my shelf. I can have a digital copy of

it like I like boxes on my shell I understand

that but there's a number of people that don't

I'm just saying like you could slowly convert

and then those games get fed back into the used

game market But like it's I don't see $60 a year

and getting 24 games for free Like that doesn't

especially when they could charge. I think I

think halo 3 still goes for almost full price

on games on demand That's crazy. I'm seeing if

I don't even see it on my shelf. I had that at

some point. But I'm just I just think there will

be a change. I don't think I think they didn't

want to announce it now, especially like also

like 10 people can share your games that you've

purchased. Like. Some of the stuff they've announced

and the way things are happening. That's this

the annual subscription fee isn't going to pay

for itself. I I don't I'm not saying I want them

to do this. I'm just saying I don't see it paying

for itself. I don't see them not announcing a

price change like that to live without also Giving

us a much lower price for the Xbox one Right.

Well, that's true, which they did announce they

slipped it by real quick at the end And then

they buried it under Titanfall 500 bucks I am

not a gamer anymore. I A lot of people the one

thing I have seen online was that they were speculating

that it's 500 because of the connect Which I

don't want the connect yeah me neither so I don't

want to pay for the connect They're gonna make

us pay for the connect because they're gonna

make us need the connect I joked about taking

the Kinect and putting electrical tape over the

camera and then putting the actual Kinect unit

in the closet that I have behind my television

so that I don't have to have that on in the room

listening to me but someone very cleverly put

something together on the internet that says

that showed an icon of just go put tape over

your connect and then a little pop -up warning

window that said the view from the connect has

become obstructed please continue but please

fix this before we can continue gameplay like

dang it you're right that's what they're gonna

do they're gonna make us have it in there but

yeah i wow the budget i've set aside puts me

within spitting distance of it but No, no, there

isn't one thing that they've shown me here that

isn't gonna be on the PlayStation 4 Well, I mean

there's there's a few things but those things

don't aren't blowing up my skirt I just I can't

wait to see what into what Sony comes back with

So yeah, and and did we say it on this podcast

or somewhere else that PlayStation just needs

to come out and say 299 drop the mic and walk

away I think we actually said somewhere in the

middle of the 360 list which is just come out

there You know say we're gonna allow you use

games. We're gonna allow you to share your games

250 You know walk off the stage don't even have

a don't you don't show me any games at that point

Show me the box. I'll be standing up cheering

So anything else you want to Throw on the tail

end of this Well, I'm scared of your subsidized

box plan if that $500 price tag is what it costs

for me to go down there and buy it, but I could

get a You know if I if I subscribe to Xbox live

for three years at 1599 a month I can have the

box for 200 or 300 it doesn't really matter either

because I'm smart enough to look at that and

say But wait, that means I'm still paying this

much for the system. Eventually, it doesn't it

doesn't make it easier emotionally. And yeah,

it might make it easier month to month. But month

to month, I still have a son to feed and rent

to pay not rent house payment to pay and student

loans to pay back. There's no way I could do

that in good conscience. I I totally understand

that. Yeah, I just I'm glad they didn't even

say the word TV. So that's good. They did mention

the Halo TV show, but that doesn't count. Oh,

fail. No. All right. Well. I think that's it

for part one. There are still three other conferences

today. There's the. Ubisoft EA and the PlayStation

for Sony's conference to cap everything off so

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We are going to do a smash run of the EA press

conference and the Ubisoft press conference.

Again, I'm your host Michael Powers. I'm joined

by Joe Reed. Hello again, and we found Sean Z

Brown Yay, somebody. Yeah, somebody found me

out in a field. They turned my innerwear inside

out said please return to Mike Yeah, well, you

know and you're just here for color commentary

and to ask questions Because you haven't seen

anything yet. I missed the Ubisoft presentation

I was actually kind of impressed with some of

the Ubisoft stuff. So I look forward to Was it

all assassins, watchdogs? No, actually. I miss

watchdogs. A lot of the stuff they showed off,

with the exception of Assassin's Creed 4, had

like a four player co -op elements to it. Including

one game that actually is scratching that smuggler's

run itch that I have. But, let's do this in order,

shall we, like professionals? We're gonna start

off with EA. And just like we were talking about

before we sat down here to push the record button,

they announced plants versus zombies garden warfare.

Which is like a third person tower defense game

where you you play as the plants and the little

troops that march towards your home base are

the zombies. OK, so can I move around? Yes. OK,

it's like third person shooter. Like years of

war with and so the only connection to actual

plants versus zombies is the fact that you're

playing as plants And there are zombies yes,

but there's it's not like that same top -down.

I put guys can I still place guys Yes, you can

place turrets you so you're so you're just like

a super plant you can place all the normal ones

Yeah, you play as the normal ones, and it looks

like you have the ability to plop down baby versions

of yourself Or either baby or call in like the

chili peppers And like roast a bunch of guys

the cherry bombs yeah, oh the chili Pepe's I've

never gotten far enough to get chili peppers

in their game. Oh wow I I just started playing

it like Two months ago. Oh, okay the very first

time, but no it's um it looked interesting It

is like coke at the coconut or the walnut blow

bowling It that's that gonna return Wow that'd

be weird That would be awesome. Take that, Wii

bowling. They announced it for Xbox 360 and Xbox

One. I'm very happy that it's getting an Xbox

360 release. Yeah, because I don't think that's

something that I'm going to be like, oh my god,

I need to have amazing graphics to play. Now,

we talked about Titanfall in the last segment.

And I don't think they showed much more about

it. No, it was just actually it was just like

a developer reel. People talking about the game

that they made and how they wanted to do something

fresh. So they made another third person shooter

with a leveling mechanic. Yeah, they mentioned

how that EA usually rehashes. I mean, later some

of the commentary I read that they rehash all

these old titles and how they are so proud of

of. Titanfall and it's yeah, you know it really

just looks like another third -person shooter

to me so Titanfall is whose game it's it's it's

response game That's okay. That's odd that it's

third -person though. It's not it's the it's

oh yeah They showed this they showed this demo

reel, and it was all third -person stuff And

then they showed gameplay, and it was all first

-person stuff. Oh For a while it looked like

the first person that when you're Running around

as the pilot with the gun that it's first person,

but then the mech stuff was 3d But that's totally

no everything looks like it's first person Uh,

and you seamlessly transition from guy on the

ground to mech pilot by walking up to a mech

In fact, like you call in your mech like a perk

would be in modern warfare So is this good? This

is gonna be like mech assault Not they're not

that big Or okay, so they're more like power

armor. It's more like so some mech warrior lone

wolf Sure. And like I told Joe in the last segment,

it looks like the game that Infinity Ward, that

these guys wanted Infinity Ward to make and Activision

was like, no, you need to make more Call of Duty.

And so, you know, they're like, no, we really

want to do something new. Yeah. So now they win.

Now they're just doing like this future combat.

Does it look good? Yes. as the only the only

bad part about it is from what we can tell is

that it's an always online game because they're

offloading AI and particle physics to the cloud

so no cloud no well see that's what we're that's

what we're like wondering about is if you do

like let's say you make your 24 -hour internet

check but then you disconnect yourself from the

internet how does the game play Yeah, I'm very

nervous about how they're going to handle that.

That kind of freaks me out because I really hope

that a lot of developers don't go, oh, if we

use the cloud for all this is freeze up all this

space to do this awesome shit. But then like,

oh, my Internet connection is down. I guess I'm

not playing that. I think Microsoft is using

their cloud solution to make up for their disadvantage

with the PlayStation 4. Yeah, which with the

RAM. Yeah, I mean which and they're also the

some of the like the hardware I've been reading

numbers. It's not it's the PlayStation has 50

% more raw power Than the Xbox one. Well, yeah

plus a lot of the Xbox is there is Save for connect

stuff and not everything's gonna be connect.

I think the even though it's a unified pool of

memory I believe it's like three three for the

operating system and all that stuff and five

for games Yeah. And I think that the PlayStation

4 is like 2 in 6, or maybe it might only be 1

in 7. But yeah, I think they're using that cloud

computing and kind of forcing that always -on

connection to make up for what they didn't put

in the box. Which I don't know if you've heard,

Shaunzy, can we get your reaction to the $500

price tag? If if it's $500 Changes hey am I gonna

get a new Xbox one or hey am I gonna trade in

my 360 to put towards it? Which with no backwards

compatibility is kind of like what the fuck yeah,

I don't trade hardware Well you collect I Yeah

But yeah, okay, so the next thing they showed

off Oh, I got an email though that was like hey

if you buy the Xbox one in the release window

you get a special controller Yeah, whatever What's

your release window six months like I don't know

it's But it might have been like if you if you

pre -order it or whatever you get like hey you

get this controller What's different about it?

Let's go to sticker Yeah Then they showed off

a little snippet video that I actually missed

because I blinked It was an AT -AT stomping on

something and It was apparently it was battlefront

Joe you saw more of this trailer. Yeah, I went

online It was basically just a foot crunching

in the snow. Yeah, it's it's like first person

of I'm assuming you're some kind of soldier and

you're on what looks like Hoth or some snow area

and all you can hear him breathing and he's like

walking and you hear the you know the Star Wars

sound for laser shots Kind of things Craziness

and then it's like you just see the ATAT foot

stomp right in front of them And that's like

fades out and I guess they're just instead of

having a number game just going right back to

Battlefront Well, it seems to be EA's thing about

a lot of things right now. That's everybody's

thing about a lot of things right now halo but

The next thing after that. Halo actually didn't

do that. I know you're excited for Battlefront.

I don't know that I am yet. I've never played

one. So, oh, God, they're fun. It's. I found

myself dying too quick when I played that. It

depends. It depends. You definitely that's it's

it's it's like basically a class based game when

you're playing. It's very important where you're

spawning because. I don't care how good you are

one guy is not taking on three guys and a head

-to -head it's not happening, but the awesome

parts were Say my guy I've gotten enough points

by capturing stuff and Helping our team get kills

and taking areas. Whatever. I've now got enough

points I'm gonna unlock a hero character for

a very specific amount of time So it's like hey,

but here's Boba fat go nuts And now we're assuming

this battlefront is gonna play that yeah, and

not battlefield with a skin on it yeah, but the

in the old games were cool cuz um When you got

those hero characters You were pretty much invincible.

Oh See I still managed to die No, I mean you

needed to really Joe suck I Believe I did suck

like like if you were if you came back as a Jedi

your health bar became a lightsaber It is as

long as you were killing people You can keep

going no apparently Joe wasn't killing people

so Then after that human soundboard they they

showed off a game that I'm excited for it is

need for speed arrivals It's not It's supposed

to be like most wanted or um Yeah, most wanted

like the older one. Well. It's no it's a it's

being produced by criteria criterion who did

most wanted and hot pursuit the two Which most

wanted though the most recent one, okay? They

did two of the last three and EA gave them the

rights to it and then they farmed them out They

farmed this version out to another company whose

name I cannot remember right now But it looks

like it is a mashup of most wanted and hot pursuit

like slammed together into one game which with

The video they showed off and the gameplay they

showed off Has me really excited for this I didn't

really care that much for most wanted, but I

think that's because it was Pushing the hardware

to its to his limits, and you know this wasn't

that fun me to play I famously threw a controller

across the room Yeah, remember those tweets Those

were fun times I did that on it was funny cuz

like a day later into the exact same thing playing

assassins Why do I keep getting stuck in this

box? Boom, all in the wall. Yeah. Well, yours

wasn't rubber banding AI that came up and like

T bones you like out of the road. No, mine. Mine

was what's his face dry humping a box instead

of mantling it. But no, I'm excited for that.

And it looked pretty good. I want to be excited

for those kind of games. Racing games just don't

have any staying power with me anymore. I can

see that but there's I play I'm like, oh, this

is great. And then like a week later. I'm like,

I really don't care There's a racing game that

Ubisoft announced that we could talk about That

actually sounds kind of fun. Even even Danner

said it seemed like it could be kind of Dan or

really doesn't like racing games After Need for

Speed rivals, they showed off Dragon Age 3 Inquisition

or is it just Dragon Age Inquisition Dragon Age

Inquisition. Yeah, okay Well, that's what I saw.

I haven't seen the the stuff for yet, but that's

what I saw for the name Have Nothing against

the series, but I have no love for the series

do they they show is it just a trailer? It's

a open world no no gameplay that I remember open

world RPG Yeah, that's what the last well as

what the first one was second was very more linear

How's it compared to? Elder Scrolls um oh they're

very different games um Dragon Age is all third

person Um, it's kind of like if they took, how

can I say this? You're not just swinging your

sword all the time. You have powers, but not

like moves kind of. Um, think somewhere between

Elder Scrolls and kind of, kind of like a, like

a, uh, Oh wow or something where it's like you

have different skills and passive abilities to

overlap with other characters This healer goes

here this you know this this this and this it's

all working together Half the game is making

sure you have good people in your squad doesn't

matter how good you are if you don't have them

You know a healer you're screwed Stuff like that,

but it's um it was a fun Game not it wasn't a

hack and slash really Like you tell your guy

to attack him not X would be like oh attack him

not swing your sword that would lock on him and

he would just Automatically start hitting them

and you control the powers What the fuck was

that that was my phone sorry guys wait what way

to be professional? Yeah, my bad turn my phone

on vibrate Don't worry man. I was at work the

other day and my phone went off very love my

phone Ringer is r2d2 going very loud Yeah, and

yeah it and it was like it basically sound like

my crotch was bionic Which was awesome kind of

anyways So yeah, it's it's it's a fun game. I

would really like to see a third one and hopefully

it's good The second was okay. I like the second

one, but it a lot of people did not This is about

when I fell asleep. Yeah, this is about I apologize

for anyone that actually listens to this podcast

That's a sports fan. I haven't cared about a

sports game since like NHL 14 maybe Not in a

job. Sorry not in a job 14 NHL Oh seven ha ha

Wow, okay, so really last time I cared about

a technically a sports game was Tecmo Super Bowl

No WCW vs. NWO. Yep But they went off to show

off their Ignite engine. Because EA has streamlined

their production down to two engines instead

of a whole bunch. They now have Frostbite 3,

which is amazing from everything I've seen. And

they have an Ignite engine, which is probably

just a sportified version of Frostbite. They

announced NBA Live 14, which this will be the

first NBA Live game in like three years? I think

they announced Madden 25, which is also Madden

2014 UFC 14 and FIFA 14 like This sports games.

It's kind of like hey We're gonna put one out

every year or we just fucking have a patch that

updates the rosters unless you're adding actual

new mechanics I will say this this is the one

thing I I thought was interesting and I don't

Joe I don't know if you actually fell asleep

or I Did they did they say that for the first

time ever? Player stats will be updated updated

like daily within the hour they said okay Yeah,

that's I that's what I thought so the game will

naturally evolve over 365 days of release and

then you know when the new one comes out It'll

get shut off unless they're kind of developing

these as games as a platform Which I would kind

of like to see happen Make more sense, but you

know maybe EA is not there yet. Maybe we're still

a couple years away from that who knows But it

would be nice to see I think I would be more

likely to Maybe try a sports game again. Maybe

the next NHL game if it was a game as Platform

like I just I download a patch. You know I paid

$10 for a patch every year and Instead of $60

for a new game. Yeah, I Don't think they'd ever

do that. There's too much money Right, but you

know we always talked about we talked last segment

about being optimistic. You know passing that

Digital sale savings. I wasn't there. I don't

have to be optimistic You're right you don't

um I will say the NHL games are I've played a

little bit of them really But they're usually

pretty fun as any game any sports game. That's

not a fighting game. They're allowed to get in

fights That's why it wins And then I think this

is where I kind of stopped taking notes because

I was getting really excited for what was coming

up They showed off battlefield for again And

my god, that was amazing. I think Battlefield

4 may be the best looking thing I've seen. And

were they showing off single player stuff? There

is no single player. I think they showed off

single player in the Xbox One conference. Yeah,

but I'm saying is that what were they showing

that was pretty? Because I heard that about the

single player is that it's so realistic. The

multiplayer looks realistic too, like it looks

ridiculous. They showed off a 64 player multiplayer.

On which system? What were they playing on? They

didn't say. Because Battlefield 3 had 64 players,

but only on PC. But I've heard that the console

versions, the next gen console versions are supposed

to do 64 player. From what I've heard from sites

and stuff, Physically speaking, they should be

able to handle it just fine. Who knows if they're

gonna? Well, because the PS3 could do it. On

certain games. Well, yeah, but look how MAG looked.

And plus MAG wasn't... Weren't you kind of segmented

in MAG? Well, no, there was a huge pool of players

that could be in the same... War at the same

time, but still each each individual skirt like

screen could hold a ton of people, right? But

could I walk over and engage in like another

group of eight players in that game? Because

wasn't like segmented into eight group of eight

No, your squad was only eight, but there was

there was multiple squads, okay? I could be like

him like walk over to another teammate. He's

none of my squad. I can't mess with him I can't

do anything with him, but he's right there I

could go kill the enemy that he's fighting. Well,

regardless of what platform it was, it looked

amazing. And they coined a new for a new word

called Levolution. What the fuck is Levolution?

It's how it's because their maps can change dynamically

through gameplay. And I wonder if that means

destruction is going to be like. High skill distractions

can be back. You have no idea. It fucking better

be. No, it is, it is. They put one of those,

I think the mode they were playing was that one

where it's like capture this point, okay, now

move forward and capture this point. Ross, yeah,

it's like basically like you're pushing them,

one side is pushing the other side back. Right,

yeah, so basically one of these points happen

to be at the top of a skyscraper. So you got

all the way to the top and people obviously people

were taking helicopters up there to try and knock

you out of the building that way and once they

got up there the building started shaking and

they looked over to the side and The enemy team

was hitting the building with tanks to try and

knock it down And so they had to capture the

point before the building fell and what I don't

know is that if it's if this is like a If it's

a canned event that happens in the level, because

like I said, they put a checkpoint on the top

of the building. So if the enemy brings down

the building, does the checkpoint move? They

didn't, you know, that hasn't really addressed

because what happens is they capture the checkpoint

and then the building falls over and they have

to jump out of the building and activate their

parachutes and they land on the ground and they

turn around and the entire building comes toppling

down. Well in in the third one, I hope it's not

a can of eggs I'd be shitty because even in battlefield

3 there's a cop There's a certain map where when

it gets to a certain point in the game a huge

one radio tower falls down like right across

the map it basically cuts it in half and It makes

it so tanks from one side have to go through

very specific channels It's just it's interesting

because like I said they put that checkpoint

at the top of the building so it's like even

in in bad company to um They'd have those points.

There's two ways you can either cap them or if

you do crazy amounts of damage to them You can

destroy them in that in that um rush mode. Oh,

okay And there would be one there would be times

even in battlefield back company to where it

was on the second floor of a building and Peep

tanks would just sit way back and shoot the building

out and when it would collapse he it would auto

kill it Yep, that's what but that was all that

was only like a two -story building though. Okay

Well, this was that they were doing that exact

same thing with a skyscraper Which is cool. That's

what a lot of people were like what the fuck

like on with battlefield 3 that they didn't like

Or I was like, oh, there's a building here. Oh,

I can blow a hole in the wall, but I can't bring

the building down Like the four posts the four

corner posts of it were immortal Which I hated

they also showed off Like there was a guy like

brought in a tank and they all ran back into

the subway station And they shot one of the pillars

that was holding the subway station ceiling up

and it brought the tank down into the subway.

That's cool like I Hate military shooters. I

don't care about them. This has me kind of excited

this level of destructive environments and cover

and That I mean, it's gonna make me have to think

in a whole new way about We're solving problems

in a completely destructible environment. Yeah,

it's it becomes some interesting things like

oh I have to defend this point. I'm gonna watch

this door Well guy on the outside blows a hole

for the sidewall where you're not paying attention

and comes through Mm -hmm, or or like you said

there used to be times where you'd be behind

a wall get ready And instead a guy was to drive

a car through the wall With strap with c4 blow

it up inside of the building See a lot of this

kill all those people a lot of this stuff is

possible simply because of the amount of ram

yeah added to the systems Well, they kind of

when they did three they kind of um they're like

oh, we're gonna make The physics better and bull

drop and everything's gonna look prettier But

they had to take away from the destruction do

it which shitty so this seems like it's a combination

of the two It's like we'll give you the prettiness

of this, but the ass kickery of this one And

then Joe's is there one more before my Nope thing

so far. Yeah, so then they just got up on stage,

and they announced that they're I'm gonna add

a little bit to this because I read another article

on this in between the EA and the Ubisoft press

conference Dice is rebooting mirrors edge mirrors

edge. I've never heard of this game. What is

that ah? You're so funny. I'm hysterical It's

arguably like, it's the only game, I was telling

Joe about this, it's the only game that made

me feel accomplished for being a gamer this last

generation. Like, I felt like my skill as a gamer

was tested in this game and I don't think any

other game has done that because a lot of the

stuff, a lot of what became really big in this

generation was the contextual buttons. Like one

button to rule them all depending on where you

are in the environment. outside of like maybe

a racing game, I don't think anything's really

tested me in the way that Mirror's Edge has.

But as a free running first person, it's, you

know, the world, it guides you through the world

using red and white as your guides. Like you

can, anything that's red, you can probably grab

on to or jump off of or like wall run on. And

it's about like, it's about that, you know, parkour

and the economy of motion. And I really enjoyed

it and they've people have been clamoring for

a sequel for forever And it came out at a time

when EA was doing all these new IPs there was

like mirrors edge and there was dead space and

Dead space was the more successful of the two

so EA obviously that's where the money went EA

ran dead space right into the ground Into the

ground, but I've heard nothing but good things

really But people have been clamoring for Mirror's

Edge 2, Mirror's Edge 2, and DICE has been saying,

well, we don't have the money for it, we don't

have the resources, blah, blah, blah. Well, now

we're getting it. Only it's like a reboot. All

of our developers are busy counting battlefield

money. Look! They did say that the release date

that says it'll be released when it's ready,

which that means it'll be released when EA says

it needs to be released. When it's like it's

like okay. I hope they don't put it up. I don't

No matter when it gets done. I hope it's released

at a smart time Yes, not like hey, let's put

against all these other things because there's

there's that's something of its own. There's

no other first -person Parkour games except for

what the fuck was that game dying light no no

no no this is a really shitty Body count don't

remember It was horrible I can't I camera what

the hell was the name of it? It was like a shitty

shitty version If team fortress 2 and mirrors

edge had a baby and that baby hit down syndrome

like It was horrible. It's like you could the

big thing is you had a gun You know you were

attacking pathetics, but you could do that you

could run and jump off walls and that bright

colorful game we saw during the Xbox conference.

What was that Mike? Oh, oh my God. The Insomniac

game. It's Sunset Overdrive. Yeah, I don't know

what this was, but this thing was horrible. Well,

but other than that, I'm saying is that Mirrors

Edge has something its own like there's there's

no other games that I would really say like,

no, it's got like Mirrors Edge. I feel like it's

a spring. Summer release not a fall winter release.

Yeah, I don't this is not. This is not a gearing

up for the holidays game When all the other big

names are gonna be coming out so that made me

really happy. I think that's the I Think that's

the happiest I've been so far with everything

that's been announced was mirrors edge thought

you're gonna say the happiest you've ever been

I'm like you just got married, dude Yeah, well,

you know things Um, so EA had a pretty strong

showing. I mean, it was an EA conference. Uh,

you know, they didn't actually talk about how

they're gonna rip off the consumers or anything

like that, so. Well, they'd like to keep that.

Well, except that Battlefield 4 already has DLC

coming out. See, I... They did that for Battlefield

3. But this time, but this time, it's a timed

exclusive with the Xbox One. Which makes me wonder

what Sony's gonna get up there and announce at

their conference. Um that's weird that they're

doing a timed exclusive book to the Xbox. I know

this battlefield has always been a PlayStation

I Already have battlefield for pre -ordered and

I already have the code to download the first

DLC The first DLC map you get a free get it free

when you pre -order it So they did the exact

same thing with three though That was it for

EA Now we can talk about Ubisoft Now this should

be interesting considering. I'm the only one

that saw this here For reasons good reason we're

gonna target whatever feelings we have at you,

okay, so it The first thing they showed off was

a game called Rocksmith 2014 Okay, so it's supposed

to be another Rocksmith game Yes, and I'm not

familiar with the Rocksmith games Rocksmith is

you could literally take an electric guitar and

plug it in and play Okay, whereas rock band and

guitar hero you played a controller that shit

was shaped like a guitar You could put on a mode

in Rocksmith that would actually tutor you and

teach you how to play an actual electric guitar

Okay, rock band 3 had that Well, it did but rock

band 3 you're still playing a fake not if you

you know There was a guitar that they made that

you could either use as a real guitar or as a

game controller With Rocksmith, I can only take,

oh, I already have this little head of guitar,

and you just point the adapt. I know what you're

saying. But for me, it was kind of like, it was

weird that they're doing it now. I was kind of

like, wait, so Rock Band and Guitar Hero got

out of the way, and you're just going to come

in here and clean this up. So they didn't really

do any favors for me. I'm kind of not into those

games. But I mean, I'm sure it'll be good. The

next thing they showed off. And I might have

some of these out of order and I apologize for

people Is something called the mighty quest for

epic loot? It is a free -to -play game that has

an open beta right now. It's a Windows game Gonna

say it sounds like a Borderlands edition They

didn't they didn't show off the one thing about

the Ubisoft conference is there wasn't a lot

of gameplay for some of these things a lot of

it was just Trailer footage and this one was

like a mock interview with like one of the heroes

in the game And you know kind of made me chuckle

here and there but at the same time I was like

I don't really know what I'm watching Hey, did

you um before forget? Did you see the I heard

something about Dead Rising 3? Yes, we talked

about that in the okay. That was the first thing

we were kind of disappointed because it's not

colorful It they took it like a more serious

vibe with it. I heard an interview with the director

about that. He says that They thought that putting

the humor up front in their old games kind of

destroyed the the tension of it And they said

that the humor is still in the game, but you

kind of have to go do it. You've got to find

it And so that's why your point of that game.

That's what I kind of thought but that's that's

what they're Thought was behind it that you can

grab a gun and play it or you can go strap Chainsaws

to the front end of a motorcycle and drive around

isn't that kind of like George Lucas retconning

the Star Wars movies to be about Darth Vader

When they were always about Like Luke and laugh.

Yeah, like he was like he's like all six movies

were the story of Darth Vader It's like really

cuz I didn't get any of that in episodes four

or five and six. I got that was about Luke I

Didn't get about that was about the fall of a

guy and then the redemption of them I mean, I

get how you turned it into that, but that's not...

I don't know, it just seems like we wanted it

to be serious from the beginning, and now we

can. No, I'm sorry. With this not to be going

a huge change, with the newest three Star Wars

movies that came out, those were all like, hey,

what character do you really want? What is it

you really want? We're going to show you what

happens right up before that and not including

what you want. Right. But the mighty quest for

epic loot it looks like you have a tower and

you get to outfit it with different Traps and

things like that and other players come and try

and loot your tower And you can go and loot theirs

and if you're successful or whatever you get

points or credits or something and you can use

it to upgrade your tower with like better security

and stuff like that so but like I said there

wasn't a whole lot of gameplay so I can't really

talk about what it actually was so like if I'm

playing with you I literally am trying to rob

your shit. Yes. And I'm trying to defend my tower

from you. You would so suck at it. Probably.

I would rob you blind. The other game they announced,

and this is the one that's kind of scratching

my smugglers run itch, is a game called The Crew.

It is a four player co -op. cooperative racing

game and it looks like they're taking like an

anthropomorphized view of the United States.

Like you can. You it's an open world racer and

you can drive across the United States, but it's

like a smaller, more condensed version of the

United States. So it's so kind of like how. Los

Angeles was in San Andreas, it's kind of compacted.

Yes, or you can drive across the desert in a

minute. Yes, like that. And it looks like, you

know, you can you know, you can go about your

own thing. The only problem is you're never playing

by yourself. There's always like other like if

your friends are playing, they're always in your

game with you. There's like a persistent world,

but like I can be in one spot doing my thing

with my races and you can be doing your thing

in your place with your races. But every once

in a while it gives you a mission. Like you need

to take this guy down so you can go to your hideout

in the city and I can like send a message to

you saying, hey, I need some help. And you drive

over or you can probably teleport to me. I don't

know. And we outfit our cars to do this task.

And then like the four of us can go roll out

and try and take down like this armored truck.

Now I'll fit them with like what we upgrade them

like they they show this like ridiculous thing.

I put machine guns on it I don't combat that

way like they showed you they showed someone

taking like a Camaro from like a Low slung street

car to like this off -roading 4x4 which looked

completely ridiculous But like the four of us

get together and we take down this car but at

any point in time the game can break out into

this four versus four vehicular combat game where

another crew will just spawn into your game and

You know, it's like See who can take down the

other team the fastest Now this sounds interesting

to me, but it might be because I just watched

fast and furious I'm not sure It's kind of like

cowboy games always sound awesome after I finished

watching tombstone Yeah, I'm like oh my god.

That's the best thing ever and then a day later.

I'm like But it's it's scratch that smugglers

run itch for me It looks like it can anyways

it looked all right it I I was you know it's

kind of texting back and forth with with the

inner while this was happening And you know I

said I said it I was expecting the game to look

a little better They showed actual gameplay which

I think was great But they showed this like really

cool trailer first, and then they showed the

gameplay and I texted Dan and I said it doesn't

look that great And he says we'll remember the

whole internet versus you know an act actually

playing it on your computer And I said yeah,

but need for speed rivals liked a lot better

than this did So but then it kind of then they

got like the city they got like the forest And

there's actual stuff around and it got it actually

looked pretty good Another game they announced

actually it was more just we're going to announce

a release date for it was the South Park RPG

the stick of truth Which is coming this holiday

What it's a South Park game, it's like a 2d oh

that's Yeah, I know, but I completely forgot

that game was even still around it's been a limo

so for so damn long It was a THQ game, and it

was just about to be released, and then obviously

THQ went. They actually started taking, like,

pre -orders. They were actually putting out promotional

stuff for it already, and then it went away.

Well, because THQ went under. Yeah. Another game

they announced, and the only time I've seen a

Wii U controller at this E3 so far, they announced

Just Dance 2014. Woo! So what wait why would

I want to use a Wii U controller for just dance

so you can change the song on the fly? Here dance

while you do that hold on to this plastic brick

for me Yeah, exactly you give like you give the

Wii U controller to someone else sitting there

while you're dancing your ass off And they get

to change the song up on you, okay? You're not

holding it one you did, but if you're playing

if you're doing it by yourself Which because

you'd be a loser but um You have to hold the

toy while you dance or you can put on the table

in front of you Okay, I really want to see like

head injuries because somebody does YMCA just

lots of gonic dome They showed off two new trials

games Trials fusion which is coming to everything

so finally Xbox won't have a monopoly on that

Then there's good because it's such a good game,

and then there's trials frontier which is coming

to your cell phone And supposedly there's some

kind of cross -platform thing between them It

might it might be like I'm assuming if it's anything.

It's it'll be like just like a leaderboard probably

They showed off watchdogs That anything in more

any any new information or they just like showing

it off What I saw was a trailer. They got leaked

last night Which is using in -game assets like

every other frickin video is this time But it

looks I'm so excited to play that game it that

I can see me putting a lot hours into that game

and the mold like the The mobile thing that's

gonna come out with it Yeah, they didn't they

didn't really see they got up there, and they

were like here's a trailer, and it was really

cool to watch But then they didn't have any gameplay

like I obviously what they showed was in game

But it's I've seen a little bit of gameplay stuff

though. I've seen I've seen gameplay stuff It's

just I'm just saying they didn't show any some

of the crazy I'm I want to see how far the game

goes because the one thing I saw in involved

The backstory of a girl being raped well yeah,

they're fucking dark in some places well the

the trailer that I saw involved him infiltrating

this underground like human trafficking ring

and He goes in there, and he starts attacking

the guys in there And they start shooting at

him and he uses a cell phone to activate the

sprinkler system And then he proceeds to beat

the rest of them up with his baton and and you

know with a pistol And then on say it like fighting

stick baton sounds so fruity whatever. He proceeds

to take him out with that and then he drags the

other guy like outside or something. I can't

really remember. And when he gets out there,

the police are out there and they're like freeze

and he like puts his hands in the air, but he's

still got a cell phone and there's like a little

power icon on it and he hits it and the lights

go out and he dispatches all the cops around

him. And then he walks down the street and turns

the power back on they end up arresting like

the the trafficking guy and While he's standing

there. He puts the guy's face up on like this

bill like this New York Times billboard and You

know saying like this guy's a human trafficker

Yeah, he kept showing pictures of like different

girls And it kept saying sold sold sold and you

know he was basically burying the guy in the

public and in like the public Interest yeah,

it was cool Probably the most interesting thing

I've seen Gameplay wise I saw something and he

would he did it was He'd use his little statistic

thing that he hooks into where it's like you

okay. This guy has what whatever percentage of

committing, you know assault and This is like

one of his victims and they got close so that

I'm saying, you know He attacked so this random

dude attacked his random check And he goes to

stop him but a bunch of people saw him do it.

He didn't have his little mask up So it cuts

to like half an hour later like real world half

an hour later you've moved on we're doing a bunch

of stuff and he's in Like a store selling stuff

and buying Ammo or something. I forget what he

was buying But across the back is the news is

playing and it's talking about that assault from

earlier Yeah And then it flashes your guys picture

so as you're talking as the shopkeepers talking

to you he slowly turns sees what it sees the

the you know the picture view plaster across

screen then turns and then he pulls a gun on

you because you're you know a wanted that shows

you're a wanted man which i thought was so cool

um side note real quick uh apparently according

to amazon video games they've already sold through

half of their pre -order allotment of xbox ones

What did they say how many that is no they never

are they just they just said half of it Yeah,

they say it says what a day unbelievable demand

for the Xbox one in the first six hours of pre

-order availability We've sold through actually

said most or inventory. Sorry Yeah, and you're

still gonna be able to buy one walk in on the

first day I firmly believe with that price. You'll

be able to find one on launch day To be honest,

I don't think price is gonna have a huge Thing

about it is that I think they've learned from

what happened No, I think when the three when

the Wii U got announced and it was 350 and people

were like that's expensive I think the exact

same thing is going to happen to the Xbox one

Well, yeah, but I mean they've I know but I'm

saying is that Regardless of price with the Xbox

and the PlayStation 3 Lot of times people couldn't

find the version of it. They wanted even though

the Wii U is a amazing example That was sold

out for like ever for a while and I think these

guys realize that If your products not there

they can't buy it and they'll buy something else

So Xbox doesn't want to short it when they know

PlayStation is gonna be there and PlayStation

is one sure when they know Xbox is gonna be there

Oh, I understand what you're saying, but I do

think price is gonna pay a factor. Oh, it's I

mean, it's not gonna matter, but I don't Think

the people are gonna find a way to buy it no

matter what well Yeah, I know about how expensive

it is, but there's a difference between finding

a way and being able to go and buy one Like all

I'm saying is I got body parts. I ain't using

That's sad What um how often do you use your

pinky toe and there are people that could use

your pinky toe you bastard anyways Another small

little game that they showed off was Assassin's

Creed 4. Is this the pirate one? Yes. Yes. They

they showed off... Are they calling it Assassin's

Creed 4 or are they just calling it Assassin's

Creed Black Flag? It's Assassin's Creed 4 Black

Flag. Okay. It showed, they showed a new trailer,

you know, cutscene thing that looked, you know,

really cool as they all do and then they showed

some in -game footage which I saw a couple weeks

ago. On a on a YouTube feed, but it it looks

good. I Mean, it looks like next -gen Assassin's

Creed. I'm sold on that game. So quick. I Pre

-ordered it on Xbox and then I'm just gonna switch

my pre -order, but I want to prove just so I

get the map It looks I mean I want I want to

play because it looks like something I'll like

to play Well, they're taking my favorite part

of three the naval combat My god You have no

I literally the first after the first time of

playing through it. I'm like, ah, I'm gonna go

watch Master and commander Like and then I'm

gonna do that same mission again It's the only

time and any Assassin's Creed mesh any Assassin's

Creed game that I've gone back to missions and

played them over and over For the experience

of it. I've done it before like I want to get

to 100 % not But I went back and played naval

missions that I got 100%. I couldn't do any better.

I just wanted to do them again. I've never done

that in Assassin's game. Um, I guess, I guess

because the lead up to it has been so long was

kind of like, yeah, I'm going to play it. So,

Oh yeah. As soon as they say, like I said this

way back when, when we did, when we were talking

about Assassin's story, when it came out on this

podcast, I'm like, Oh God, they just need After

the naval cutoff. I just I just want an assassin's

game. I just want a pirate game now They announced

it the day. They announced it. I'm like yeah,

that's I'm that money's spent now They can't

take my money on that game fast enough um The

next game and we'll wrap this up after this one

because the Sony conference is gonna start They

showed off a new Tom Clancy game, and it is called

the division it borrows a little bit from the

crew, which we talked about earlier. It's a four

player co -op game, third person shooter. The

premise of the game is that there's this thing

called like a black winner contingency. And the

idea is that on Black Friday, a group of people

taint cash with a very bad strain of the flu

virus. and they dump it into the economy on Black

Friday. So the virus spreads very quickly. Crazy

quick. Yes, and people end up dying. And the

whole thing is that there's a division. Like,

the government has cells set up around the globe.

Around the US to so like when things go shit

these cells get activated and they help maintain

order in in these you know in these turbulent

times and you play as one, you know a group in

the division that gets activated after this thing

goes on and It looks like there's some tablet

integration. So Hypothetically, let's say I'm

at work and you guys are playing like on a Tuesday

night or whatever Not that that would be the

case. I can play from my tablet But I won't be

my guy in the game. I will be like a little AR

drone That can see the level from above and point

AR drone. Yeah, like the have you seen those

like quadricopters? Yeah, yeah, they were in

Call of Duty, but I would play as one of those

What does AR mean? It's just I don't know they

call the there's an iOS version that you pilot

with your phone And it's called an AR parrot

drone or something like that. It's just a quadricopter

Okay, but it's like I was fine. It's basically

just an unmanned aerial. Yes Yeah, and so I would

be able to be like oh, there's a guy there And

I can highlight the guy and then you like the

three other three people I'm playing with could

go and take that guy out on the ground And each

person has like like special abilities like they

there's like a healer Apparently can give like

he's like a medic. Yeah, but they can activate

it like a special ability That's like I don't

think there's like I don't think you're like

superheroes or anything like that One of the

perks that you can unlock is the ability to heal

your team over time kind of like the auto regen

and Borderlands Yeah, so it's your continuously

give them a little bit of health. Yes And but

you're working your way through the city and

the whole thing is broken down and you know,

you can you hear gunshots in the distance and

you can pull up a little mini map and you don't

ever leave the game like this little risk computer

comes up and like a holographic image spills

out onto the ground of the map of the city and

you can see where events are and you can plot

to go there and check them out with your team.

It's kind of like a third person left for dead.

So it's kind of like one person like I'm gonna

check the map and everybody's just covering them

because he can get a textile Yeah, and you you

walk through the city and it's it just it looks

really cool And the fact that was whole four

-player co -op thing like totally sold and then

I guess just like the crew at any time another

Another team can show up in your game Mm -hmm,

and you engage them in combat But now are they

a part of the division? Here's how they didn't

really address that but here's how I think it

works Okay, because it's a versus mode. I think

what happens is if if we run across them in our

game They look like a group of enemy combatants

Okay, and if we spawn into their game. We look

like enemy combatants to them Mm -hmm, but it's

you're still playing against real people There

they're there in their game their members of

the division in our game We're members of divisions,

but to each other you're opposing factions. We're

opposing factions So it it looks really cool

It's it's Daner said it was the first game that

it was a must buy for him, and I have to agree

because it looks really great I'll have to see

more on that. There's who or who is it you're

fighting at ours. You're I don't know like there

was a hint Some kind of nasty crawling around

inside of a police station Like this this thing

has mutated people yes, there's a it's gonna

turn into Raccoon City There's a hint of that.

You don't ever see anything directly The only

time you're fighting your only only thing I saw

them fighting was you know guns Yeah, dudes with

guns, but in the police precinct they look down

a hall a long hallway and something Scatters

by on four legs It's like how like wow, what

was that and then it's like all the building

chicken. We got to get out But it looks kind

of neat, you know It's got the it's got the skill

tree like your character levels up as you play

and like I said the whole ability to like play

excuse me while you're on the go and Stuff like

that. It just seems it just seems really neat

and I guess like you can you can spawn in and

out at any time and Now, did they say anything

like if I spawn out, does that mean the rest

of the people playing have an AI guy? Nope, that's

it. He just you're just you're down a man. Yes.

So when you enter the game, you're by yourself.

And what so far? Yes, if I play by myself, there

is no one else until one of you guys gets on.

Yeah. Or if I join with randoms. Yep. And what

and what's interesting is you just you it's kind

of like a seamless thing, like you'll walk around

a corner and. Your guy will be there or like

in the in the in the demo that they played the

live demo that they played Which is running on

the PlayStation 4? What systems is it both systems?

It's both systems. Okay, but they were playing

on ps4 They like there was two guys that were

playing in there by themselves and They were

walking down the street and all of a sudden you

heard this girl's voice come over the intercom

And she's like I'll meet you guys at the next

intersection Well, she spawned in the game, but

she didn't spawn in right next to them. She just

spawned into the okay So yes, you just spawn

somewhere yes, and you have to meet up. Oh, that's

that's cool that I like and then when they When

they're in the middle of like this combat sequence

with some guys that had taken over the local

police station their other buddy just they were

like getting overwhelmed and their other buddy

like just showed up like that that quadricopter

showed up over the battlefield and it said so

-and -so and then it said tablet in parentheses

which just meant he wasn't actually playing he

was on his phone or a tablet device and he was

like he was highlighting where targets were so

that it was easier for everyone on the ground

to take them out is that all the person can do

is move around and target I I don't know What

he's capable of what you're capable of doing

from a tablet like they haven't really gone into

that much stuff. So It was cool. I'm excited

Like like I said, I kind of agree with Dan it

was like the first must buy and it it looks really

good I think it's it's it's up there with like

bad. I don't think it looks as good as battlefield

for but I think there's like It's interesting

enough. It's more. It's more a different creature.

Yeah, I think there's more going on in this too

I mean obviously the environments aren't like

destructible like they are in battlefield, but

I just feel like there's more going on They say

um Did they say if that? Tablet thing has any

is it usable in that versus mode I? Don't know

cuz I can see one team having a huge advantage

if they have someone spotten We look like okay.

This is what happened the game kind of and the

demo that they showed ended on them Like coming

up against another group of guys. It didn't show

them fighting that group of guys They were like

they came up and they're like oh, it's get ready

for PvP. There's another group of guys And the

camera kind of pulled up and it kind of became

like this arena style combat thing Like it was

like a like kind of like the the world it was

really where the camera pulled up and it was

looking down from the from above and the The

arena it looked kind of like a paintball field

would you know like and then the camera was like

starting to come back down and then it cut out

of the It cut out of the demo So it's kind of

like you might when you get in that PvP because

it's just four versus four it might it's kind

of like It's like this is the area boom. Yes,

like this is now where you get to fight in and

then once you clear them out You can yeah, it's

gonna say you wipe them out and then proceed

so but it looks It looks pretty big They were

playing on like an island in New York, and you

could move across to like other sections of New

York Does the entire game place I just the entire

game take I don't know I think you can go to

other places Why don't you have any information?

I just I'm telling you what I saw Geez, maybe

you should watch some of this stuff. I was working

so but That's pretty much it Think Ubisoft so

far has had the best showing but I think EA has

had the best -looking game so far Which would

be battlefield battlefield? Yeah Do we know if

the PlayStation one is gonna overlap games or

is it gonna be all all different stuff? Don't

know. I hope it's not some of part of the host

me at some of it is the same because I haven't

seen it yet Probably some stuff, but like I said

we're gonna have we got 20 minutes until the

PlayStation conference And I need to find out

how to view that stream You can do it on your

PlayStation Or or on any video game website,

but you got really quiet Joe I Didn't hear I

didn't know anything about the those games and

doesn't sound like they're interesting to me.

He was masticating But so yeah, we're gonna take

another break and when we come back on the other

side we'll have Sony's conference to talk about

and give reactions to on the fly so 299 drop

the mic walk away Now that Xbox has come out

at 5. I don't see PlayStation being That far

from that price point. Well. Here's the problem

does Sony if Sony doesn't put the camera in there

Yeah, they can undercut Yeah, if the camera is

a separate accessory. Yeah. Well, because they've

already said the camera is not necessary. I don't

know if they've said it's not in the box. Because

it's one of those things where it'll end up being

like the first Kinect. If you don't sell it in

the box, no one's going to use it. Which, now,

I'm not saying that's a good or bad thing. I'm

just saying, like, it's kind of like the 360,

not every one of them coming with a hard drive.

Yeah. It'll end up being one of those. Things

again, so but you know we'll get to see what

the box looks like which is exciting. I think

that I'm gonna be a boy I do hope I do hope it's

not I mean, okay It's gonna be a big black box

But I hope it's just got a little more aesthetic

appeal than the Xbox one or the x -bone or whatever

Sony usually has some Style well, there's there's

always have kind of like a nice smoothness to

them. They usually have some kind of curve Yeah,

except for the new one Joe. I'm sorry So, but

yeah, we'll be back on the other side of that

with our reactions and Hope to see you then We

can't see them ever. Well, no, they'll stick

around. No, we can't see them. Yeah Whatever

you're not gonna stop listening to the podcast

now, so we'll see you We won't see them. We'll

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on Geocast Radio. In this segment, we are going

to be talking about the Sony press conference.

It's going to be a little bit different because

unlike the previous two segments where we recorded

them after the conferences, we recorded this

one before the conference. Before the conference,

yeah. Dun, dun, dun. We recorded this one 48

hours later almost. So. We've had time to kind

of dig through and hear some more information

here and there about the Sony conference and

what they've announced than the other ones. So

also furiously masturbate. Yes. So with that

in mind, here for this segment, as usual, myself,

Michael Powers, I'm joined again by Joe Reed.

Hello. Sean Diedrich. Hey. And Daner is joining

us. Hi. So, Danner, I thought since you weren't

there for the other two segments, maybe you would

like to share your thoughts on Microsoft EA and

Ubisoft? Not the PlayStation one? No. No? Okay.

Okay. Well, you know, I just wanted to give you

a chance to say your piece. I was gonna say Ubisoft

was the only one that I watched outside of Sony.

Okay, and I think I experienced the Xbox conference

via Twitter and I could feel how much I'd be

wasting my time if I was to actually watch the

press conference. Yeah. I was completely content

with the Twitter feed and then I checked out

a couple of trailers online. And that was about

it. Okay, now whenever I think of the Xbox conference

all I can think of is what's his face going hey?

Do you want an offline experience? We have a

system for that Xbox 360 360 like how big how

it's like you can no Bigger give someone the

middle finger than that so just just so we can

see if we're all on the same page here How'd

that $4 .99 price tag rub you? It hurts more

now knowing that the PlayStation's only gonna

be $3 .99. No, I was asking Danner. I thought

$4 .99 was too much. Okay. And for all the surveillance

they're doing on me, they should be paying me

to have that. Exactly. We should get kickbacks

from the advertisement that they're gonna be

pulling out of the Kinect to specifically target

me. That'd be nice. first so Sony got up on stage

and They showed off two PlayStation 3 games.

I Think they showed off beyond two souls and

the last of us I think they're maybe right frismo

6 and Gran Turismo 6 all look great Whether that's

your cup or tea or not all the games look great

that they showed for the ps3 You know looking

forward to playing last of us later this week.

And then, did they even touch on the Vita? They

did. Yeah, a little bit. It was mostly how it's

gonna react, interact and stuff. Yeah, because

they didn't really, at the conference, they didn't

really go into games that were coming out, because

I kind of, I was expecting them to talk about

Tearaway, but they never really showed anything

about Tearaway there. They showed off You know

Microsoft got up on stage and they're like, you

know, we support the indie developer community

and they show off Minecraft And as I said earlier,

you know, does that even count as an indie game

anymore? Then Sony gets up on stage and they

showed off what eight ten different indie titles

that are coming to the PlayStation 4 and Vita

Which I will totally buy and ps3 Yes, I I mean

there was some up there that kind of made me

go maybe but Definitely nothing that made me

go. I don't want that Then they showed off the

you know the box that everybody wanted to see

What do you guys look sharp Nah, it's a black

wedge eraser. Yeah But what do you guys think

is it do you like the way it looks? Do you hate

the way it looks? This is just a ship with the

system looks like it What's it's what it does

in my it's in my opinion I don't know why so

many people are getting hung up on what it looks

like it's what the system does and It's what

it's gonna provide. I don't it could look like

it could literally be a replica of a giant steaming

pile of shit If it plays the games I want to

play, I will gladly stick my disc in shit. I'm

so glad you pronounced disc so well there. Way

to enunciate. No problem. I want to make sure

I did not fuck up that enunciation. Because you

screw that up a little bit and then you got your

dick in shit and there's no coming back from

that. Oh, there's coming back. Tell Mike about

last night. What? The fact that his penis was

buried in my bulbous ass So this is going downhill

Yep Yeah, but you ever go kind of fun. It's like

rolling when you're kids fun. I Okay, but I just

want to talk about this for a second. Okay, because

I I think that Looking at the ps4 first of all

it's kind of deceptive in the end how big it

is because it's actually not that much bigger

than the PlayStation slim the ps3 slim Not really

and it looks thinner Which is great because the

one thing that was concerning me about these

next -gen consoles was will they fit in my entertainment

center? with a euphemism without cooking themselves

to death and Well, I was concerned about the

Xbox one until they announced the $500 price

tag and then quickly became unconcerned with

that but I am glad that the ps4 is smaller and

I As for how it looks, I'm just glad I get to

stick it in my entertainment center and it disappears

I don't have to stare at it because again not

a euphemism I find both systems to be pretty

offensive to me to my sensibilities. Anyways,

you mean Physicality only Yes Okay. Do you know

if they came up with a measuring unit that was...

Could they measure it in number of Wii U's big?

Like, how many Wii U's big is the PS4? Or how

many Wii U's big is the Xbox One? It's so tiny.

Well, I think if I remember correctly, the Wii

U is half the size of the PlayStation 3 Slim

that Daner and I have. So that would make the

PS4 two Wii U's. Excellent or it's probably even

it might be two ps2s taped together and Would

you say that the Xbox one is two is three we

use or two and a half? Two and a half But I'll

also say that you know Supposedly the Xbox one

is proportionate to my 16 by 9 television that

I'm looking at which whatever Stop, you know,

stop making shit up So wait the Xbox one is as

big as a 16 by 9. Yeah, it's as big as the TV

in my family room In fact, you have to have a

TV my size or it doesn't disappear You have to

get the dwarf it with what's around it Don't

worry because even if you do there's that gargantuan

block box of a Connect hanging on the top of

your TV Okay, screw it. I know what everybody

wants to talk to talk about Everyone wants to

talk about when Jack Tretton got up on stage

after we almost fell asleep Because towards the

middle of the Sony press conference while I was

delighted with what I was seeing It got a bit

dry, but horrible, but it may have been because

I Sat through three other press conferences,

and I'd been in the same spot on the couch all

day No, I had it was okay, and I was passing

out all right I just I just wanted to make sure

that it wasn't just you know me I mean I know

we all said that we were thoroughly bored, but

I wasn't sure if it was like outside forces at

play or if it was actually the conference itself.

I was mere moments from typing horrendous things

into the Skype chat. Just to keep me awake. But

Jack Tretton gets up on stage and he starts taking,

you know, sucker punches at Microsoft in their

DRM policies and they're always on connection

policies and. I believe the first one was they

will not if you you know you buy a disc. It's

your disc you can Trade it in you can give it

to a friend you can sell it used do whatever

you want Do whatever you want the business model

that customers have been familiar with for this

many years it works We're gonna keep it the same

and everyone gets up on their feet standing ovation

Cheers apparently there was some form of crying

going on That was you that was not me But it

was something to see And then you know he wasn't

done there when it died down a little bit He

fired back with the fact that they will not require

your system to connect to the internet It's like

you do not have to check every every day I do

believe that it came it he they're actually going

to adopt what the 360 does now where The disk

has to be in the drive to play it, but it's still

installed to your hard drive Which is fine I

mean, that's what I do on my 360 right now anyways.

Isn't that essential with a PS3 disc anyways?

Because it installs it no matter what. But not

every game is installed, and even when they do

have an install, sometimes it's not the entire

game. It might be like a texture pack or something.

But now, both systems will have full game installs.

It's just that I'm fairly certain that the PS4

is going to require you to put the disc in to

play said game. Then he got up I can try to remember

what there wasn't there three things. He said

no No, always on check. No always on connection

in the price point in the US in the used games

and then You know they they went away, and they

showed destiny Which I think kind of got us.

You know we're all awake at that point in time

Cool as hell yes, I I believe I read it. There's

a joke on Twitter that said Microsoft opened

up their press conference with Metal Gear Solid

5 as an FU to Sony, and Sony closes out their

conference playing Halo 5 on a PlayStation 4.

The one thing I want to say about Destiny beyond

the fact that it looks like, you know, a spiced

up Borderlands, this that and the other thing,

I didn't think Bungie could make games that look

like that. Oh, it's like an open world. I'm Sean

my degree with this to me It had more of a mass

effect type of a field do it like I was definitely

is I it looks like if Borderlands if they took

this the silliness of Borderlands away and threw

in Mass effect. Oh totally I I agree with that

I'm just saying I didn't realize that they could

make games that looked like that because all

they've made is Halo and a couple of other games

before that Will say there was that one part

when he's like he got the gun of the thunder

boomer or whatever the hell it was called It's

like listen to the thunder. I was like, I can't

hear it. It just sounds like bullets. Shut up.

I I liked that when you went up against like

what I'm assuming is a raid boss you were joined

by other players Well, uh, yeah. Yeah, those

huge that huge thing. Yeah, so and then after

the destiny video gameplay gameplay video Wish

I could remember the guy's name. He was another

sony representative. I think he's like the president

the sony president in the United States He got

up there and announced the price point which

was 399 and The crowd went apeshit again. I She

want like when the guys Becky you supposed to

say 499. Oh shit Damn um now lot of people thought

that that this might have been Sony's you know

there's been stories that you know they made

these changes at the last minute after Microsoft

went first in the day that they came and you

know decided a bunch of stuff for the last second

like the price and all that stuff but Sony publicly

Sony has come out and said that no the digital

rights management that use games stuff and the

price point was all decided like way back in

February. They just said that the company's official

line and every executive that I've heard give

an interview has all said the same thing. It's

that they didn't want, they didn't see a reason

to change the model, which is why - Wait a second,

wait a second, back up. They actually had a meeting

where everybody was on the same page and had

the same answers at their company Yeah, man Microsoft

should take a lesson from that But they They

didn't see the reason to change up the model

so they didn't they weren't and they weren't

going to change up the model So they didn't feel

a reason to announce anything Until everybody

went crazy because of what Microsoft was doing

And then that whole big, you know, the Twitter

campaign and stuff, the hashtag PS4 No DRM started

up. And they said that, you know, they really

wanted to come out and say something right then

and make everyone feel good about the system.

But they decided to wait until E3 so they could

just stick it to Microsoft in the most public

way possible. And they did a really good job.

Every time Microsoft has someone at Microsoft

has opened their mouth. They've dug themselves

a deeper hole Oh, how have they dug in it in

a lot of ways it reminds me of the Sony stuff

back in 2006 uh -huh with the 499 599 price point

and the arrogance of being the number one box

in the home Everything box and there are people

out there that are trying to downplay the 399

price point and a lot of this is like clickbait

on the internet to sell you know make sure you

get your your clicks and stuff like that but

you know people are saying that the worst thing

that Sony I think Sony has done as far as the

ps4 is concerned is put multiplayer behind the

PlayStation putt plus paywall which for me having

an Xbox as long as I've had it doesn't See and

after I will point out this after actually having

PlayStation Plus now and using it and seeing

how How useful and how much better it is the

next box live? I don't see that as an issue in

the slightest because I mean you're going as

long as I have a PlayStation system or systems

I will stick with PlayStation Plus because I

see the benefits of it. Yeah, well not only that

I mean if you sign up They give you a $60 game

for the PlayStation 4, so you come out $10 ahead.

Yeah. Yeah. And I know people were like, well,

now you've got to consider into the fact that

it's like $4 .50 now, because now you have to

buy a year of PlayStation Plus to go along with

it. You don't have to do shit. If you want to

play online, yeah, you do. But a lot of people,

especially when it comes to the PlayStation,

A lot of people play the single -player games.

A lot of people don't even pay attention to the

multi. Plus, all of the non -gaming stuff is

not behind that wall still. Yes. So I wonder

if the weird cloud -based gaming things that

happen like the the driver AI in, well, that's

in Microsoft system, but I wonder if some of

that passive online stuff will work or if it

won't just will be the multiplayer that doesn't

work. My assumption is is what will be allowed

will be the same as if you just unplugged your

system from the internet in terms of gameplay

I if there was actually no connection to the

outside world with the exception of maybe leaderboards

or something I think that I think what Joe is

saying is will it will like a game like four

is a five Still ping the cloud cert the Xbox

one cloud servers if you don't have Xbox live

I Think they will I would have to for some of

the games that they're describing I I think it

will I think it's like when you want to engage

in any kind of multiplayer Thing is when you're

gonna have to get behind the the Xbox live paywall

And and Sony has come out because Sony's gonna

have a free -to -play model as well They said

that their free -to -play model its publishers

discretion whether they the the consumer has

to be a PlayStation Plus member or not to be

able to play online But that's only free to play

games. Yeah. I know yesterday there was a little

bit of panic because Jack Trenton went on game

trailers and said that the DRM used game thing

would be up to the publishers. Yeah. And. I have

to I have to applause Sony applaud them again.

Because Jack Trenton went on there and said that

and you know that shot around the internet almost

as fast as he said it and As soon as Sony saw

that he had said that They came out with a you

know, the the official public statement which

is It's exactly like it is now if EA wants to

charge you five dollars for an online pass They

can charge you $5 for an online pass. So it's

the model that we know without any extra check

-ins or, you know. Yeah. And so it was kind of

like people were trying to find the chink in

what Sony had announced. And people are still

trying to find the chink in what Sony had announced.

And it's mostly the people at Microsoft. And

I've heard the, you know, it's going to cost

you $450 to play games on the PS4. Well, guess

what? It costs 560 to play on the Xbox. So I

put at least there's no space points. Yeah. So

I'm sorry, Sean, even one to say something. Yes.

Thank you. I have absolutely no problem switching

to play state as as being an Xbox owner Switching

to PlayStation paying for PlayStation plus if

they can give me the online experiences that

I'm used to for the Xbox I don't I don't I want

to go into things and be able to talk to people

I don't want it to be a pain in the ass that

hook up with my friends and games. I don't want

Service interruptions for weeks at a time. I

think if they take that month like Take that

money and use it to have a dedicated online division

or whatever That's bigger than whatever they

used before there was an interview last night

that says that that money the PlayStation plus

money Not only is it gonna they're gonna continue

to give you You know free games every month and

add to your instant game collection But they

said that they're going to put that back into

their infrastructure Good see that That's the

the big hope that I have for the PlayStation

because I've completely abandoned Nintendo and

completely abandoned Microsoft because of the

decisions that they've been making and Yeah,

when I do buy a next -gen system, it's gonna

be a ps4 but I am nervous that the online stuff

will still kind of be a pain in the neck to connect

and to Talk to my friends and hook it up and

set it up. But I really have a feeling that since

the development for the PS4 kind of shifted to

Europe and the Western guys that it'll probably

be a bit more. Well, I mean, you said you said

before that they're putting a headset in the

box, right? It's well, this is like a cell phone

headset. Like it's a it's a earbud. It's a Bluetooth.

No, no, no. I don't know. It plugs into the controller

like the original Xbox headset did. But it's

in here. Yeah, it's like the ones that come with

your iPhone. Yeah I'm fine with that. Just putting

that in the box will make the likelihood of people

talking online Much better. Well what I was gonna

what I was gonna say is Danner can test this

because he's the only person I've actually tried

this out with party chat works on the Vita It

works very well, and that's a little I mean,

I'm saying this just for like a comparison thing,

but that's like a little rinky -dink thing compared

to the PlayStation 4. Not only that, I've read

an article that said that, because I know the

other day we were talking about system resources

and that the Xbox, the Xbox One, like three gigs

of that is used for the operating system and

then the developers have five gigs to play with.

Apparently with the PlayStation 4, it's 1 gig

for the operating system and 7 for developers.

Well, I mean PlayStation has always had like

a simpler operating system, I think. Xbox tries

to do too much shit sometimes. They got cross

game chat to work on the Vita simply by having

768 megs of RAM in it. So giving the system...

as much RAM as it does, the cross -game chat

should work. Now, whether or not their chat codec

is as good as Xbox Live remains to be seen, but

that can always be improved. So, I think what

shocked me was the $399 price point. You thought

it was going to be more? No, well, I mean, no,

I said it was going to be $399. My long shot

was you know them going back to the 299 price

point. I didn't think that was gonna happen I

I know I was just like long shot 299 because

that would blow everybody's mind I I'm just glad

they came in under that and They showed off more

things that I wanted and their box doesn't have

anything I'm not paying for anything with the

PlayStation 4 that I'm not going to use Like

the connect like the HDMI pass -through for your

freaking cable box. I I don't want to pay for

that stuff I mean, maybe Microsoft will release

a version that doesn't come with the HDMI pass

-through on it Who knows? Describe what that

is. It's a set top box. Basically, they want

you so you can use your Xbox for everything.

Everything would go through your Xbox. Hey, I

want to watch cable that goes through my Xbox.

I want to watch movies, whatever you want to

do. They want they want you to make your Xbox

vital to your entire entertainment system. So

you have a cable box right now, right, Joe? Yep.

So basically what you would do is you'd plug

your Xbox one into your TV on input one. You

would plug your cable box into the back of your

Xbox One. Yeah, instead of into your TV. And

then there's this little blaster that you run

from your 360 down over to your cable box, and

then you can say, Xbox, I want to watch Cartoon

Network, and it'll change your thing to Cartoon

Network. I see. Which is, I mean, that's a cool

thing, but I don't need that. Yeah, I mean, I

don't even have TV. Me neither. I don't have

cable. Have the interweb. That's yep. That's

all I've got actually technically I'm paying

for both, but I only have the internet But I

that's I Don't really know what else to say it

is kind of like the drop -the -mic thing right

399 done If they just said 350 I'd have one pre

-ordered already I did go and you'd still have

an erection if it's a 350. I did go on Amazon

that night right before I got in bed and pre

-ordered one because the nice thing about Amazon

and also the bad thing about Amazon is you can

pre -order something, but they don't take your

money right away. Yeah, sometimes. Every time

I do it, sometimes I forget. Well, what I bet

I pre -ordered something. What's kind of neat

and I kind of realize I can do this with my bank

is I know if I know when something's coming out,

can set a goal so I can have that money there

by that time they're gonna charge my card and

Then I can just go ahead and pre -order stuff

so I just jumped in line, and I'm really glad

that I did that because Amazon is guaranteeing

right we talked about this before we started

recording they Had to do two separate editions.

There's no difference between the two, but they

had to do two separate editions on their website

And they have a launch edition and a standard

edition the launch edition all they're do all

that is is you're guaranteed to get it on day

one And then the standard edition is we'll ship

it to you whenever we get them It's like hey

If we can get it to you on day one great if it

takes a week then sucks to you exactly So I'm

I'm kind of glad that I just jumped in there

as a guy You know I kind of hemmed and ha and

I was like you know what they're not gonna take

my money right now anyways I might as well just

get in line so Just I don't know. I'm the only

thing that I'm I want to know Is about the controller?

What about I've heard that you know it feels

better it feels good in your hand the sticks

feels the sticks feel better because they're

concave instead of convex Yes, and you know that

the job. I'm proud of you the triggers You know

the triggers have more a little more feedback

to them or your fingers can sit on them easier

They look like they made them a little more trigger

-shaped. They are yeah, they didn't make them

as wide It's like the old buttons and they made

them more of a hook They still don't have something

going on the bottom which we'll just find out

whatever um But the one thing I want to know

about is did they add any weight to it? Because

that I think Above and beyond like the stick

placement. I like the way the 360 I like the

weight of the 360 controller Just like a little

bit after hands yes But I haven't heard anyone's

I've just heard it says I've just heard people

say it feels really good in your hands Does do

you guys have anything you want to say about

it? And yeah, I wish those joysticks were offset

Yes, but they're further apart Because of the

touchpad in the middle of it, and I think that

might be enough for me. I don't know I'll have

to use it um I I foresee me if I really want

to get in a call of duty and stuff on there And

unless I get pick pick it up quick. I see me

buying like a third party Controller because

you can buy third -party PlayStation 3 controllers

that look just like Xbox controllers, right and

I can I can Completely describe why I want those

offset We call them offset joysticks, but my

right thumb is floating over the buttons My left

thumb floats over the d -pad and I've got to

move it to their weird joystick on the left left

hand I want the joystick to be in the same position

as where my other thumb Spends all of its time

and because they're not offset. You've got to

move your thumb down to use it I can't it's just

not as comfortable. Yeah, it's like you almost

have to think about where you're putting your

thumb Constantly and they're they're concave

now, and I think that will also that'll help

to write a bit I won't be slipping I slipped

off the joystick a bunch of times. Well like

you said we should stop sweating when you're

playing video games Dude, it's fucking intense

Okay Calm down. So who do we think? Came out

of who do we think came out on top of t3? Is

it Sony? Nintendo Nintendo they didn't even show

you that shit about the oh, yeah, though What

about it? Okay, the oh, yeah, right? They didn't

want to go they didn't want to go into the actual

conference, right? They so what they did was

they rented out a bunch of space directly across

from it outside across the street they rented

the ton of space, right? And I forget who it

was part of the E3 people found out that they

were doing it. So the E3 people rent out the

space directly in front of them and parked buses

in front like in front of their stands. So then

Ouya rented the spots on the other side of the

buses and put their advertisements there. And

then E3 called the cops on Ouya. The cops came

and they couldn't arrest them, but you they actually

called the cops. I don't think it's hysterical

And for me because I haven't been paying attention

that Ouya is the little set -top box that streams

the game to you It doesn't actually run or no,

but we has a $99 Android console that plays Android

games. Yeah It's it's basically like if you if

if you had an Android phone you like those games

or ever come on playing your breath on my TV

so Mean it's a little it's it's kind of like

it's not expensive. Like I said, he like he said

it's $99. It's not a big thing. Um Cheaper than

a tablet. Let's say you want to play it you want

to play it seems like a nice Hipster type of

a thing it is but and that's why they want to

set they separate themselves away from everything

But it just turned it just turned in this really

really funny thing that I found so amusing They're

like, oh, yeah, we're gonna park our buses in

front of you. Oh, yeah Well, we're gonna put

our advertisement in front of your buses Um I

love this country So Nintendo did I guess we

can unless you guys have anything else you want

to say about the Sony press conference I Mean

watch dogs look good didn't they you did a game?

They did a gameplay demo of watch dogs didn't

they yes they did yeah, it was With with the

I swear watch dogs about the division Yeah division

look cool, but they gotta stop naming characters

in video games t -bone Especially like I don't

know what it is. There's always like some gangster

name t -bone and this guy's white Well, they're

French so yeah, well they're weird Well if you

guys don't have anything else you want to say

about the Sony press conference We can talk about

when Nintendo brought yesterday Nintendo brought

something yesterday. Well, you know they showed

up with their pace paced pressure misery, you

know Smash Brothers brawl no Super Smash Bros.

Okay, and they showed up with Mario Kart 8 and

Joe's favorite X Which nobody's been talking

about X looks awesome. What is it? Don't know.

I think it's like a it's it's it seems like a

Xeno Gears game if I had a Wii U it still looks

like an open -world Xeno Gears Which for anybody

that doesn't know what that is, it's just it's

an RPG that had mechs in it So yeah, they were

mechs dinosaurs swords big floating islands.

It looked like honestly when I'm looking at it

It looked about as grand a scale as destiny did

to me It kind of looked a lot like that and the

graphics didn't look at that detail, but look

good They also showed up with Legend of Zelda

2, or yeah, Link to the Past 2. What? Yes. What

the frick did I miss that? They just given up

making new titles. Like I'm just gonna start,

we're gonna go back to old ones and number them.

What else did they show up with? Yeah, they're

doing Link to the Past 2 and Wind Waker HD. Wind

Waker HD, which I, there's, appears to... From

the developer video I watched on that more stuff

in it extra things. Yeah, it has a faster sale.

Oh That's good because that was the thing that

killed me at that game Fucking boring that would

be the other problem with that game So yeah,

it was like one -third the length I thought it

was going to be because as soon as I said go

get all the pieces of the Triforce I expected

eight more dungeons and like what I got them

all and the game is over what See a Nintendo

showed up I Don't know I'm they can't they didn't

I didn't hear anything come out of there that

I made me want to go and buy a Wii U again They're

like here's all the stuff you would expect us

to lot this put out with the system now that

said I am sad that Bayonetta 2 is an exclusive

I'm sad in the same way. Well actually I'm I'm

sad that it's an exclusive because it's being

published by Nintendo But I'm hoping that maybe

we'll get a lollipop chainsaw to on the actual

next -gen consoles I I pose this question on

Twitter into Danner. I do you think we'll get

a Wii U price cut this year since there's a $50

difference between you know I think it will milk

the price point up until the other systems launch.

I think we will see a price cut this year, but

I think it's gonna be very, very close to the

launch window of the PS4 and the Xbox One. If

I know Nintendo, I do not believe they will drop

the price point, one, because they're already

losing money on the hardware, and two, they're

already... 150 bucks cheaper than the ps3 they

won't use this as an opportunity to drop the

price at all Yeah, but they're only $50 cheaper

than a ps4 It's a classic Nintendo fashion. There's

gonna be three different colors of We use by

Christmas all packaged with different games.

I Mean, I don't I don't think they'll package

anything with a game this year Either that's

my that's my prediction. Well all they have left

on the shelf is the pros with with Nintendo land

Yeah, they took away the other ones. They took

away the $200 the $300 one Yeah, base system.

You can't buy it anymore. They recalled them

all well. They had no business selling that anyway

But I mean it's just they're not getting the

I guess Infinity Ward announced today that they

are working on a Wii U version of Call of Duty

ghosts So they're not being completely abandoned

by next -gen and they are getting Arkham Origins,

but other than that I didn't see a whole lot

of Nintendo love from third -party developers

again. I did see one thing that was really funny.

Deus Ex Human Revolution, there was going to

be a director's cut released only on the Wii

U. They've since changed that to it's going to

be on everything. Yep. And they had made stuff

special that you're going to do on the tablet.

Now they're like, oh, you can do that on your,

they're going to make it so you can do it on

your Vita and on your, you know, Whatever tablet

or whatever you're gonna use for your Xbox smart

glass I'm so I'm actually kind of happy about

that cuz I cuz I want to play that I really feel

bad for Nintendo. I do too. I don't screw them.

I Feel bad because that's where you know, that's

that's how I got in They got me into gaming in

the first place and it's like I I wish they were

getting the games I do But they're not It's their

fault. I mean they released a next -gen system.

That was definitely current gen Too bad. It's

not the Trojan horse. I was hoping it would be

yep me too Now is there anything that was announced

as I I know that you know that Dan I'm not sorry

Sean's he's still on the fence, but you know

three of the four of us are firmly in the I don't

know if there's anything Xbox can show me right

now. Unless you press a button and it turns into

a sex robot. Fingers crossed. Is there anything

that Microsoft showed or that... My example is

Bayonetta 2 on the Wii U. But is there anything

that somebody showed that was an exclusive for

something that wasn't PlayStation 4 that you...

Well, I'll be no battlefield just has a timed

exclusive on the Xbox where the stuff will get

there Which is weird. I was talking to Mike about

this year, which is weird because on the ps3

Battlefield games always had a time to exclusive

with the PlayStation Because Call of Duty was

the Xbox whereas they would get this the DLC

first there and Then it would eventually make

like a month later. It would make it to the other

system, right? But I'm the only thing is I because

like I said, I don't think there's anything Microsoft

can show me that will make me want to buy it

Because I would have to give them a hundred dollars

more Like you said for stuff that I don't really

give a shit about right Oh a connect that I probably

won't use unless they force me to oh wait, I

have to keep it plugged in anyways Yeah Or the

thing for the cable box, which I don't have one

But, um, I will be bummed to not be playing Halo.

Yeah. For me, it's there's two of them. One is

Plants vs. Zombies, Garden Warfare. But like

we said... Is that an Xbox only? Well, it's Xbox

One and Xbox 360. So we'll still be able to play

it. Plus, it didn't look that, oh my God, crazy

graphical that I don't think the differences

would be that amazing. No. But believe it or

not it is a frostbite 3 game Which is which is

interesting it just shows the the flexibility

of that engine And the other one is Titanfall

Which I saw that not that interested to be honest

with you I I think I think Titanfall is a timed

exclusive I don't even know. I'm not like I saw

the trailers myself suffer not incredibly. Oh

my god interested in it I I'm interested in it

for two reasons one giant robots and two. It's

not Call of Duty But it looks and I will the

next Saints Row is gonna have giant robots. I

don't have to worry about that So does anyone

else have it see anything that they wish was

gonna that isn't gonna be on the ps4 that they

wish was No, I'm trying to go already in Hey

make an announcement today say that said the

last Guardian is still in development and it

will eventually come out Who's developing it

because they closed the developing house? No,

they didn't know they did the guy the lead the

lead designer He left Sony but is still working

on the game like he no longer works for Sony,

but he's freelancing to finish the game. Yeah

That's all that really happened there. The only

game I'm kind of interested in is the new Insomniac

game. That looked kind of interesting. What was

it called? That Sunset... Boulevard? Or Overdrive?

I don't really see that. Is it Sunset Boulevard

or Overdrive? Overdrive. Yeah. That looked interesting.

I saw... It looked like Team Fortress 2 met Crackdown.

Crackdown. There's one. That whatever whatever

happens with their that's just gonna suck. Well

watch that I watched that Sunset Overdrive video

again today and it reminds me of What fuse was

supposed to look like? Yeah, I also agree with

that and pain the PlayStation 3 physics game

where you throw a guy through plate glass Just

it reminded me a whole lot of that and I remember

when we when Joe and I were watching the conference

I said that now we know where the Fuse art style

went So All right, what was we'll wrap this up

here Besides the Sony conference in the 399 price

point and they're you know, they're saying to

gamers You know our business model is gonna be

the status quo What was your favorite thing?

That we've seen so far at e3 Will do me last

John I like when you talk dirty um my favorite

thing Watch dogs just bought way actually that

true that gameplay stuff they showed with assassins

for how smoothly it went from land to ship was

pretty freaking sick it yeah, I watched a HD

YouTube clip of that after the the thing was

yeah That's what I did for a lot of those things

because the streaming is messing up I went back

and watched them later and boy do they look a

lot better it look that game looks so And they

can only look better than that too, which is

scary That's yeah, that's how much whatever the

inner webs can handle Showing to you the two.

Yeah, the two games that impressed me the most

are ones that aren't gonna be affected by Internet

connection, so it's kind of the single -player

aspects of it assassins and watchdogs Danner

You gotta say I think I'm looking forward to

The division That's the Tom Clancy one, correct?

Yes. Yeah, that's the one. Yeah. Yeah me too

and that looks that would destiny looks good

That looks cool, but that's one of those that

seems like a game. It's gonna be like Borderlands

I I'm not gonna play by myself the both of those

games actually Well, I just think I I'm wondering

when the division comes out Because it seems

like one of those games that we might be able

to pick up at that point in time where you know

We're done with destiny We need something else

as for player co -op just so we can get online

and hang out And it seems like it could be one

of those games Yeah, let's get online and go

explore this you know, whatever I'm I'm excited

for battlefield battlefront battlefield battlefield

Because just the physics engine in that looked

amazing and yeah I'm very surprised that I'm

even remotely interested in a game. That is a

military shooter That is it's kind of terrifying

to me. Sony has done things to me the past couple

of days that make me question who I am. Again,

if you take out what you said, Sony sounds so

perverted. They've done things to me that make

me question myself as a man. It's all scary to

me. I hope something happens that I can actually

afford this thing and play with you guys when

you all get it. Yeah, I really hope that scene

that they had in Battlefield with the skyscraper.

I hope that's not a scripted event. Yeah, I really

hope that was around in our own little man going

up buildings for fun. Dude, that'd be so cool.

Let's level this city. Are you kidding? That's

I would do nothing except grab explosives and

just booby trap everything. I was going to say

that's what buildings are now. Thanks. I did

that in Incredible Hulk Ultimate Destruction.

Just go around and knock down buildings until

I broke the game and made it crash. It's like

it's just it's her. It's just like there's it's

flat. There's no more buildings. Yeah Well, that's

what I want I want there to be like schema games

that go on so long that the the area at the end

of the game Hardly resembles the area at the

beginning of the game. That's called Earth Defense

Force Really yep, um I think for me The surprises

of this show One I agree with Dan or about the

division It looks really cool and anytime I can

do a four -player co -op game. That's even better

I did like the whole you can run into another

group of players and it turns into PvP I think

the way that works is you're not like When we're

in our you know, we're all playing together and

we come across another group. We see them as

like insurgents or as the bad guy They're another

in their game. They're another group of four

in the division and they see us as bad guys.

I Think that's how it works. I don't think it's

gonna be division attacking division Yeah, plus

I saw that part you were telling me about in

the hospital or something moved Yeah, I don't

I don't think that's gonna be some kind of mutation.

I don't know just something about it It's just

I think it might be like a pack of dogs or something,

but well it could be but it looked like some

type of mutation Caused by the virus, but then

again, it's a Tom Clancy. So yeah, it doesn't

it doesn't really fit into the stuff But it does

seem I really hope that that whatever that tablet

thing was that the guy was doing. Oh Yeah, the

tablet integration and the smartphone stuff.

We've been seeing that's actually pretty neat

They have put it seems like they took the ideas

that have been laid down With smart glass and

stuff and just applying them across the board

Like, oh, you can't really do too much with this.

This game doesn't really. There's no tab. We'll

just have the tab. I have a completely separate

functionality that creates a commander that can

drop like they even showed it in. What was it?

Battlefield. I don't know that battlefield, but

Dead Rising three even had it. I don't remember

that. Oh, yeah. He calls in and he calls in an

airstrike. He designates an area. Someone else

on a tablet sends the airstrike. I thought that

was the commander in battlefield. No, I did that

too. Well, they did that too. That was also in

the air strike. Yeah, the did that all those

explosions that was sent by somebody on the tablet

no did um Correct me if I'm wrong didn't watch

dogs show off some type of tablet thing where

you're in a chase and somebody else can From

what I've heard about that they can't they take

control of cameras almost like in that trailer

They show where you were helping out that t -bone

guy how you were moving stuff Your friends can

get in on a tablet, take control of cameras and

hack those specific points for you. They have

no interaction, like they can turn stuff off,

turn stuff on, move the barricades. Need for

Speed Rivals even had something like that in

it too, where the person sitting next to you

could use their phone or the Vita or the smart

glass or whatever you want, and they could call

in all of your roadblocks and stuff for you.

while you're chasing down another racer yeah

um i mean all that it just seems really neat

i think we're yeah i i like that they're that

they're it's not just becoming some stupid little

thing there it's actually becoming useful it's

not it's not customize your loadout it's now

now yeah it's like hey you can get your thing

ready on the call of duty thing and when you

get into the next game it'll be changed for you

yeah now it's now it's play with your friends

even when you're sitting on the train So who

sits on trains, but besides the division mirrors

edge I'm looking forward to playing that again.

I really want to play part one and not suck at

it I've been debating on whether or not I should

fire up the first one again and for the record

it is not mirrors edge to it is a reboot Are

you still playing the same character? Yes, I

guess they're just Try they're they're going

back to the drawing board and they're going to

try and make it Appeal to a wider audience so

it does better I hope that means that they're

going to make it so you can get through the game

without having to pick up a gun I mean, I know

you can do that in the first one, but so hard

for I've heard I got like three quarters of the

way Through the game probably farther than that

and I just I was banging my head against the

wall And finally I had to pick up a gun so Yeah,

that's it. That's it for me Any last second things

you guys want to add No, no um have they said

anything else about what's coming in the box

besides It's the it's a controller like a set

of headphones that will come it will come with

a smartphone. Yeah It's the PlayStation itself

They have not said and I've asked on Twitter

various people I've asked about Kind of cables.

No. Well actually comes with an HDMI cable Mm

-hmm, and obviously comes with a power cable

and it comes with the USB cable for the controller

This is gonna come with composites for people

that don't know both both both the Xbox one and

the PlayStation 4 are HDMI connections only nice

They only support resolutions of 720p and 1080p

Now which I mean can you even buy an HDTV that's

not those well not it not so much anymore But

like when the place when they first started yeah,

like well when the PlayStation 4 first came out

it didn't do 1080i Or something there was some

weird thing with the resolution and one of the

resolutions was not supported and people didn't

people had 1080i but not 720p And so they couldn't

play them in HD until Sony added 1080i support

to the PlayStation or something like that. I

don't know. I didn't really follow it all that

closely. But no, we are truly out of the standard

definition era with this next generation of consoles.

Rough, rough, rough, rough. Which is something

people aren't really making that big of a deal

about. And my neighbor's dogs are going crazy.

That's why that's why you put sleeping medication

inside of like steak and throw it over So it

works in the movies it works in real life the

the one thing I have asked about and I haven't

gotten a Reply from anybody and I haven't seen

anyone mention it online is whether or not the

system has a power brick Yes for yeah same power

cord that it's been for 20 years I was good I

I was hoping that because I know that the only

PlayStation that has a power brick is the final

version of the PlayStation 2 The super crazy.

Yeah, the super super slim one has that's how

they made it slim right to get the inside and

put it in a power brick Yep, so I know that the

I know I'm curious about heat though Yeah, well

systems being more powerful and that looking

like a pretty compact system comparatively Well,

I'm wondering if that's gonna have a heat issue

like the 360s that when they first came out That's

what I've been concerned about Since figuring

out how big it is, but if you look at the pictures

of the back of it It's all vent and it's really

large vents. So it seems like I mean there's

Crazy things you can do with the internals and

thermodynamics and all this stuff. So it seems

like maybe you draw in air Like in one side of

the console where it's gonna be cooler and then

it exhausts out You know over the hardware and

I mean no one's really been able to say how loud

or quiet the system is because E3 is really loud

Right. I just want to plug in the first time

like it's like, man. And it's it's it's kind

of weird, right? If the if the PS4 doesn't have

a power brick, we know that the Xbox one does.

And the Xbox one is the size of my house. It's

like, how how are they doing it? What what what's

there's got to be some sacrifice. You can't make

everything smaller, more compact without there

being some kind of trade off. So I but if you

look at the. If you look at the PlayStation 3,

the one that Joe has and the one that Daner and

I have, there aren't that many vents on that

thing. At least not the one I think that Daner

and I have. There aren't a whole lot of vents

and yet, you know, that was a... There's... The

hardware that's in there is pretty good. So it's

all about, I guess, according to some people,

it comes down to how much power it actually uses

to determine how hot it actually gets. Yeah.

So maybe it doesn't use, maybe it doesn't consume

that much power when it's running, so it doesn't

get that hot. And maybe Microsoft just is going

overboard with their vents so they don't run

into a red ring situation again. Or maybe they

want to have a reason to sell a smaller box in

two years. Possibly. So. Yep, I had that same

concern, too, Shansi. But until I mean, I'm going

to like I said, I preordered mine and, you know,

hopefully everything. comes out okay I mean I

do I will admit though I do like blu -ray cases

better than the DVD cases so that'll be nice

white people problems yep so all right last call

for last opinions going once um have they said

um I know you won't be able to play PlayStation

3 games but what about all of the down are the

download Nothing nothing that's on the current

even on the network, right? Nothing It's but

they have said that their Gaikai cloud services

are supposed to come online in the US in 2014

and that's supposed to bring some ps3 backwards

compatibility But you know, that's it's basically

take whatever games that they possibly could

well what it's good I think what they they they

said that their origin their first their phase

one plans with the Gaikai cloud streaming is

to bring their triple -a PS3 games online, and

then these smaller lesser known titles. Gotta

make sure you're unchartered and infamous. Alright,

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this out again? I can't do this. You're horrible.

I am horrible at this. It's so adorable though.

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