Off The Cuff
Unscripted Hangout Session
About this Episode
Hello and welcome to off the cuff episode 48
This episode is has very little to do with video
games. It is primarily the guys Shooting the
shit for about 90 minutes Light on the video
game talk again extremely light on the video
game talk if you like hanging out with us you
like hearing us talk about Stuff then go ahead
by all means continue listening and enjoy the
show If listening to us talk about stuff is not
your bag and you want to listen to games We'll
get back to that in episode 49 again apologize.
We went way off the cuff Pardon our dust while
we get back in the swing of recording Do that
back do that back do that do that Sunday morning
No, it's no it's not it's not one it's like two
parts Sunday morning at the tower Gonna take
it to the car wash. Car wash, yeah. Gonna take
it to the tower, yeah. So how are you? Long time
no hear. Uh, a week and a half? I mean, we played
Destiny like a week and a half ago on Sunday.
Still. Too long. I missed you, boo. Let's say
it actually works as the shortening of my of
my of my online ID Wait, really boo booth ninja.
Oh, oh, I miss you boo Man you'll always be eye
powers to me. Oh god. I I'm having a beer One
beer you fucking party am oh, I'm done. I'm like
toasted I'm a severe. I don't drink that much.
I'm like a severe lightweight like Severe unalcoholic
yeah, so one and I feel it two and I'm having
a good time Three in your fucking trash. I'm
fucking everything that moves Poor you have several
animals living in your house. I feel that's why
depressed for them That's why I'd never go over
three at home. I never go over two at home The
dog the animal see you with a six -pack they
get all worried and clench their butts. I never
go over two unless I'm preoccupied Preoccupied
yeah with like games or something I Have something
to focus the drunk energy on focus focus up Focus
up now. You really are a little buzzed, aren't
you? I'm being colorful. Yeah. Yeah. I also have
a Coke because I like to mix beer with my Coca
-Cola. Really? I mean, I don't like beer. I'm
not a big beer drinker. If I'm going to have
alcohol, beer is not where I go. Well, I mean,
I don't mix them. Okay, so you drink them at
the same time. Yes, with straws. I thought you
were saying straws. You manly man you. Jesus.
Straws and little umbrellas. And this entire
conversation. How do you have both? This entire
conversation is being recorded for posterity's
sake. Woo! Oh, Danner's calling me. Let's put
him on speaker. Hey Danner. Hey. You're being
recorded. Oh, awesome. I'm having issues with
my computer. You're having issues with your computer?
Are you going to repeat everything I say? No,
what's going on? My mouse, my trackpad is not
responding appropriately. My immediate question
is, did you restart the computer? Hmm. Do you
have a USB mouse? I'm restarting it right now
to see if it fixes it, but like if I shut my
computer and like open it back up and take it
out of sleep mode, it works for like maybe 20
seconds and then it starts wiggling out and going
back and forth and being weird. Is there anything
like smudged on the trackpad? Ask him if he has
a plug -in mouse. You can't hear Seanzy, but
he's asking if you have a plug -in mouse. Like
a USB mouse? He does not. Fucking neanderthal
he called you a neanderthal No, you have a laptop
that doesn't work how is that better He says
you have a laptop that doesn't work. How is that
better? I keep forgetting that you can't hear
yes, I can hear True is there anything like smudged
on the keyboard or like the I mean the first
thing usually like How about you not have moisture
on your keyboard Do it from the smartphone. I've
done it before That's okay, we're recording the
color commentary for the episode and I'm having
a beer It's almost gone I might get another one
before you get on Oh God Wait, what? You say
he's going on vacation and he can't drink? I
think he said he's going on medication and he
can't drink. Oh, medication. Oh. I already went
on it. Is it medication for alcoholism? No. And
you can drink. Do you not want to say what it
is for all the listeners? Is it erectile dysfunction?
Too much erectile function. So erectile dysfunction.
That's all I'm hearing is erectile dysfunction
Thank you alcohol may I have another Wonder there's
a way that I can make it so you can hear Shonzi
you'd have to like It's working 20 seconds for
20 seconds quick click on Skype Houston we have
a problem. What I don't know. I just felt like
saying Houston. We have a problem I feel like
Dan is calling from the moon bastard. I feel
like there's already the moon from the moon Why
is he calling from the moon Dan is gonna? He's
gonna go dark Open Skype at least. Get in the
call. There you go, open Skype. That way if it
stops working you can still do it. Don't worry,
Joe's not on yet either. Didn't he say he's not?
Yeah, Joe said he's probably not. When was that?
You drunk -ass bastard. Okay, I will read it
to you. I do check Facebook. The last thing I
saw was he was excited to go. At 633 I might
not be able to podcast tonight. I may need to
help but be available for to help Janine Jenny
Jenny I'm stupid Okay, I'm still going to try
to make it of course and then Yes, cuz Joe's
not coming And I didn't catch it until now. Do
I mean nothing to you? No, Shanzi, you really
don't mean anything to me. Okay, bye. Where's
the alcohol when I need it? I need the alcohol.
It stings. It burns. If you're gonna stab me,
at least twist the knife. Yeah, I didn't see
last yeah last thing I saw was balls of steel
Really yeah, it's a crater. It's like directly
underneath. I know but I didn't like I was driving
when all this conversation was happening, I think
Be a man like there are text messages. I missed
regarding transformers Say what transformers
what what's gone? Okay, I have to be in the theater
1145 got it I haven't decided if I'm going to
the. To the to the mid to the early showing of
that or not. OK, well, now that we're delayed,
now it's just the two of us. And now we have
to think of stuff to talk about. Yeah, well,
I mean, did you guys end up recording last week?
Yeah. Yeah, well, I haven't listened to it yet.
What have you? What did you talk about? We pretty
much shot the shit about the Wii U, and then
talked a little bit about E3 stuff, like games
at E3 that kind of - I mean, we have Watch Dogs
to talk about. I played Hardline. We've both
played Destiny. Yeah, we talked a little bit
about Destiny, too, so we can - I mean, we can
rehash everything, because Daner and you will
be here, so - I can vent my frustration about
GTA, because I'm fucking pissed now. Why? Well
- When they announced that there's gonna be the
next -gen version it immediately become apparent
why they haven't released fucking heist yet Before
those games It was supposed to be by spring That
was the second time it's been pushed back and
now they announced again that it's getting pushed
back to some yet undetermined time And hold on
let me look at the back of the box There beer
done look at the back of the box It's on the
back of the box. I don't know if it says it anywhere
about in the instructions or anything Are you
gonna join a class action lawsuit against them?
No, I'm fucking pissed. Okay. I have had no problem
with the content I've had but I would trade every
bit of everything that they've put out for fucking
nice in a second Especially because I'm all like
they I mean cuz when's the last time you played
it Have a long time ago, right sure last year
They've released all this cool stuff in new cars
but everything's expensive Mm -hmm, but the most
the most I've ever earned on a single mission
or anything is like between fifteen thousand
and twenty thousand Hmm Heist was supposed to
be that way to earn a lot of money, you know,
what's hard But it's, you know, it's a time -effective
way to make money. Can you not pay for fake money?
Yeah, that's why. Like, you could buy fucking
chart cards. I think it's like 20 bucks for...
I don't even know. Hold on. It's... Remember
how we were guesstimating how much it was gonna
be? We were way off. Not even close. Less? More?
Less for your money? More for your money? You
get a lot less. Oh. Oh yeah. Is it like real
-world money? $20 gets you 20 bucks. No, um...
20 bucks gives you one and a quarter million.
Oh, what's that? 20 bucks? They have cars that
cost more than that in the game. Single cars,
one car, without any add -ons. Okay, that's dumb.
Cost more than that. Okay, that's dumb. Like,
they released, um... But the question on everyone's
mind Sean Z is will you be buying it for the
ps4? There's one question I need answered Before
I commit to that. I Know I can take my my save
from my 360 and play my PlayStation 4 Just doing
that is it not one direction. Yes. That's my
question. That's a good question And don't have
the I have I've looked as much ever they keep
saying you'll be able to play your last gen saves
For the multiplayer on your next gen sis or your
I'm sorry. What I think they called it current
and then next gen But they haven't said if you
go the other way So it means like say if I'm
playing with you guys one weekend and then during
the week my Xbox friends come let's do this Can
I go back and play with them have I screw those
guys? Screw those guys. Those are the people
I've been playing with screw those guys So I
can play with your drunk ass. Yep It's so it's
so appropriate because I'm listening to you like
Slowly get drunker, but I'm also what seeing
a watch your picture is with you with a towel
on your head That's not a towel. That is a thing.
What is that? I think that is a dog chew toy
that my sister made For her animals, and she
brought it in to work one day, and I put it on
my head because it looked like a wig Okay, so
how is that but that makes more sense than it
being a towel how Because you could not dry yourself
with that It would not work. I don't know it
looks like it's clothy material. I bet you could
if you really try it's Fleece you can try yourself
to take forever exactly So I'm not gonna wait
for don't say it's not myself If you just rubbed
it really fast on your head the friction alone
would Try I'm gonna try calling Danner See what
happens He's I don't think he's there here. I
don't care. I'm trying to call what is wrong
with you. I Want to get that I want to get this
party started. Yeah. Oh He's there Party, party,
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party, party, party, party, party, party, party,
party, party, party, party, party, party, party,
party, party, party, party, party, party, party,
party, party, party, party, party, party, party,
party, party, party, party, party, Like, maybe
once, and it was a long time ago. No, like, in
person. Have I ever been drunk with Danner? Did
you get drunk at your wedding? No. Why? I didn't
drink anything at my wedding. Why? Oh my God.
Because Jason didn't bring me anything. Tell
me about it. All right, I'll be right back. I'm
just going to grab a drink so that I don't like
water. Not not a drink drink, you booze hound.
I might go get another one before we start recording
this. I don't know. But then again, I had to
keep this reined in. Reined in. Maybe I should
keep my wits about me. Can't stop. Reined in
for what? I don't know. What are we going to
talk about? I don't know. You're the one who
says, let's record today. I'm assuming you had
some sort of plan. I have plans just to let people
hear our wonderful voices. OK. As we serenade
them with. some musical numbers. Season pass
for Rezogun. No, thank you. What? 799. If I was
flexible enough to slam my head against the desk
right now, I would do that. Get the Rezogun season
pass today and download the Heroes expansion
now. Why would I pay for Rezogun when I already
got it for free? Oh my God. Expansions for the
game. With create your own ships. You have to
pay for that stuff? It's $7 .99 for two DLCs.
And you got a game for free that is by far one
of the better games on the entire system. This
is true. I know, I speak the truth. And you said
you're bringing drunken wisdom and I'm bringing
sober wisdom. That's a first. I'm bringing angry
sober wisdom because I haven't had a drop to
drink in almost a week now. And that's unheard
of. So now you're just... Being mean surly the
closest thing to alcohol. I had was I had bourbon
honey today. I Saw your picture. How was that?
It was it wasn't bad Well, what does it taste
more like more like bourbon more like it tastes
more like honey like honey bourbon I'm sorry.
I keep hearing something talking and I just don't
feel like they need that I need to acknowledge
at all that would that body I don't know And
welcome to off the cuff episode 48. I am your
host as always or as usual Michael Powers I am
joined this week by as you've heard are we starting
yet because I just heard a long pause and I did
nothing We're joined by Sean Z Brown. Hey, I
heard that and by is Mike is Mike's microphone
not working? I can't hear him Wait, seriously,
you know him you hate him You love to hate him.
Hang on. Art, are you serious? I hear you. He's
fucking around. I don't know. He is. You know
him. You love to hate him. Art Danner. That's
about to say you shouldn't say those awful things
about Joe. He's not even here. I didn't say anything
about Joe. You said people love to hate him.
I mean. Talking about you. No, people love me.
Your proxologist is the only person that loves
you. You love yourself I Love myself enough for
everybody else. This is a true straight interest
straight and I I might go back to the whole I
can't hear you talking because you don't seem
to be able to put words together Oh, I'm putting
them together. They're just not making sense
Okay, I'm making new words soon. It's just gonna
be vowels You're not making new words idiot.
You're making new sentences. Hey, the words are
still there. Oh You're so scary dumb I am Hey,
hey, hey Sean, could you breathe a little more
on your microphone? That's better. Wait, hold
on. How about that better? Am I breathe still
breathing on it? No, okay Mike check one two
one two Don't check yourself too hard you might
wreck yourself You're funny Mike Mike just Mike
checked himself. I did I just checked myself.
I'm all here. I'm here What you guys want to
talk about Way to have a plan we never have a
plan When I'm in charge, we have a plan. We only
have a plan when we do a script. Yeah, when I'm
in charge, there's a plan. Yeah, but you're not
in charge. No, I don't have to bring my A game
today. I just get to phone it in. You never bring
your A game. Oh, I always bring my A game. I
am the master of my own destiny. Right then,
a bunch of women that Danner slept with went,
eh. OK, wait a minute. You said a bunch of. We
know that's a lie. It is a lie because I rejected
all of them. Yeah. Oh, you. Michelangelo's turned
down more pizza. OK. See, you know, the problem
was when I was in high school, I was very gay.
I was going to say naive. I was a man that could
be misconstrued for what was going on, but. No,
I had this romantic concept of the fact that
I needed to be in love with somebody in order
to sleep with them. Hey, I have the same one.
Stupid asshole. No, I agree with him on that
one. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. To the point where
you had a chick completely naked on your bed,
like ready to go and you leaned down and you
go, you know what? I'm not really feeling it.
And then walked away. Actually, I'll do you one
better. I did that while drunk. Wow, and I went
driving I was sober so so wait You're telling
me that like one bad decision was followed by
another bad decision. Yes It wasn't a bad decision
though. I have the same I have the same Value
well, I don't the same values as Tanner I had
the same idea as Tanner about sex Which is you
only do it with somebody that you're in love
with Yep. Now that didn't stop me from doing
other things that just stopped me from having
sex with people My penis was in her mouth, but
whatever. Well, yeah, but that's okay I was gonna
say that happened multiple times with that girl.
I just didn't go all the way. Oh Saving yourself
for marriage. Are you? No, was it about that?
I was about waiting till you were in love with
somebody exactly. I totally I totally totally
getting that vibe and this is probably the the
deepest dead or I have ever gotten in our Eat
your friendship. Right here. Dropping deep bombs.
Booyah. We've never had a conversation like this.
For some reason, anytime you get deep, you have
to be drunk. You have to be drunk to be in touch
with your feelings, Michael. No. How does that
make me feel? This is not true. How does that
make me feel doesn't make me feel how do you
think how you think it is for me? Because you
only open up when you have alcohol in your system
and oh, that's what she said you can't be You
can't be honest with me when you're sober and
it just it takes an outside influence in order
to open you up and for you to be honest with
yourself and with me and it's Are you I can't
tell if you're Talking to me anymore if you're
talking to Janelle She's not even here right
now Emotionally she hasn't been there for years
Love you, it's not like she listens. I don't
even know how we got on this conversation now
What conversation? This isn't a conversation.
Dan and I were having a conversation. The only
thing that I've really actually figured out from
any of this is the fact that Sean was so desperate
for sex he would throw it in anything that came
walking his way. I don't even care if it was
walking. Dragging its lifeless body was perfectly
fine with me. Necrophilia? Is that where it's
at? Dude, it's not necrophilia. What you do is
you blow air into their mouth. That way when
it comes out you pretend they're breathing. Oh
God, I just puked a waffle in my mouth a little
bit. The fuck's a bluffle? I said a waffle. With
bourbon honey. Open up your ear holes. I can't
because you'll fuck me in them. I'm sorry. I
wonder how long we can keep going without talking
about games before people just turn us off. You
just said games. You just said games, jackass.
We're not talking about a game. We're just talking.
I'm saying like, how long can we carry on? Not
what this podcast is about before people start
commenting about Didn't theoretically you already
record the thing I said about Rezo gun earlier.
I'm recording everything I've been recording
for 25 minutes. Of course you have been Stroking
your ego. This is gonna be a really long Extra
feature at the end of the episode. No, this all
goes in the beginning. Awesome. How long until
the intro came in on the last episode with you
and Joe? 30 minutes. So I got four minutes to
spend. No, no, I got to the intro at 17 minutes.
Yeah, just remember I couldn't hear him say it.
Do you want me to say it again? No, good. I can
say, hello, welcome to Off the Cuff 49. We can
just do 48 and 49. That could have been episode
48. Can you reintroduce us again, too? We could
have done episode 25. Episode 25. We could have
done episode 48. You should just cut it and post
it with the... Do you think we're... When are
they going to shut it off? When we start talking...
If we never start talking about games and then...
Games. And then... Thank you. Welcome to Off
the Cuff 49. I can't do it now because you said
it. Two episodes. You can't cut it. Oh my God.
You're a lazy editor. Yes. OK, well, we established
that. Oh. Only you took more pride in your work,
more people listen. If only you slept with more
people, you'd be better at it. Oh, I've never
had complaints, sir. It's not the amount of complaints,
it's not the amount of people, it's just how
good you are. You just got to satisfy one person
for the rest of your life. Whatever you say guys
cakewalk Cakewalk He has a there's like it's
the easiest thing I go to the store. I buy some
dumb some D batteries. She's fucking sad Where
are you from man? They come with wall chargers
now? I Thought I would say where you man hers
run on diehards Gas powered engine this is noisy
There's no way to conceal that so That would
keep you'd be able to stay in the mood with something
not a lot I Think I'd start reminiscing about
mowing the lawn and then I'd realize the lawn
need to be mowed and then I'd probably just go
do it This is officially become the most bizarre
fucking podcast we've ever done. I Don't know.
It's good. I mean it's up there But we've had
some real shitty ones. No, I think this is the
most off the rails. We've gone I don't even know
how to steer this back in other than just like
Ending it as the episode that it is wait so one
of the guys I work with is sitting in is working
at the hotel in Detroit that he's at and Jesse
Eisenberg is just hanging out in the lobby cool
Because they're shooting that members Superman
right now. Yeah, they are Yay It's not versus
it's V. Yeah Batman Superman Batman five Superman.
Oh damn it Batman five Superman zero That's how
that goes one of my guys at work I call to go
be an extra as a scientist in the movie did really
yeah But they called him literally two hours
before they needed him across state and he just
got to work And I told him, I was like, if you
would have told me it was Batman versus Superman,
I would have just let you go. And this would
have been the third time he would have been an
extra in a movie with Jesse Eisenberg. What were
the other two? Network and... Nope. They're 30
minutes or less. And the independent one that
they just shot about... You shot one a few months
ago here in Grand Rapids at the hotel. I know
extras don't get paid a lot They must really
not get paid a lot in an independent. Actually
extras don't get paid unless they talk, right?
Yep. Yeah Really? Yeah. Yeah, he got to give
a Jesse Eisenberg a high five in the scene that
he was in and he learned Subsequently that Jesse
Eisenberg doesn't know how to give a fucking
high five He's that bad an actor after after
seven after seven takes the director decided
to he goes, you know what? We're not gonna do
the high five anymore. You know, how do you do
a movie with Woody Harrelson and not come away
knowing how to do a high five? I don't know.
I just imagine that's one of the things you can
not know how to use your hands. It's true Act
acting maybe it's an actor thing Just us us normal
people will never understand it Well, it's they
don't have to do normal things like us They just
have to pretend that they know how to do normal
things like us. I mean, I'm a very good actor
I've acted like I don't want Dana to die for
yes, but do you know how to give a high five?
I've acted I've acted at least three times that
I've been an interest in what Sean's he has to
say so I've never acted like you know that really
could have gone the wrong way because you have
three children No matter how asinine anything
they bring up to me it'll always be way more
important than anything Sean has ever uttered
in his entire existence This is true and Xander
Xander's favorite catchphrase right now is poopy
He goes he goes into my bedroom Because it overlooks
the street and when there's kids outside playing
next door He runs up to the window and just starts
screaming poopy at the top of his lungs at all
the kids that are playing outside Can we hear
him say it? He's asleep right now. Oh, I know
What a it's only 830. I'm a jerk. You know what?
He was sick of listening to you not talk about
anything interesting. So he went to bed He couldn't
hear me anyways. Your fat head was in the way.
Oh, oh, so we're gonna go there. Pretty sure
he said something about your mom earlier, too.
What? Hold up. You were drunk. You can't remember.
Oh, I remember, sir. I've never been so drunk
that I don't remember stuff. I've never been
so drunk. I've only ever been drunk enough to
puke once. I've never been drunk enough to black
out. I've never done the puking thing. I've been
so drunk that I time travel. I've seen teleportation.
It doesn't count as time traveling if you just
black out and wake up later. That's not time
traveling. I've been so drunk. I lost a whole
six hours. I time traveled from my friend's basement
all the way to the floor of my bedroom. To the
floor of my friend's basement. I've witnessed
teleportation. No, you haven't. I have. It was
kind of freaky. And how did you? witness teleportation
Well, how is this kind of weird telling talking
about this stuff? Oh, yeah, you're worried about
weirdness in the podcast now No, okay. So when
I was living in Grand Rapids I was having one
of the parties that I had that well, I didn't
really have them my roommates had them and I
had some friends over from out of town and from
work and we were all sitting in the family room
drinking and whatnot and for whatever reason
some of my friends were some of my Grand Rapids
friends were taking notice of my friends that
came from Grand Blank and they wanted to style
his hair for whatever reason we were all drunk
and they needed gel to do it and I said I have
some gel upstairs and I kid you not Soon as I
said there was gel upstairs. She had the gel
in her hand I was like where the fuck did you
go and everyone thought the same thing too? No
one saw her leave everyone just saw her appear
with the gel And it was okay almost now. Did
you do the reasonable thing and like be like
oh? I have a million dollars upstairs Nothing
no no why would I do that? I was too impressed
by the fact that she teleported So you didn't
try to do it again? But you can't teleport for
something I don't have. I had the gel. Why not?
It's teleporting. You don't have to just go upstairs.
No. What? That doesn't make any sense. I can't
tell them to go fetch something that I don't
know where it is. They didn't know. They said
it was upstairs. I said it was upstairs in the
bathroom, and that's exactly where it was. And
she immediately had it. Yes. It couldn't have
it was in it was just in the bathroom couldn't
it wasn't in a cabinet. It was just hanging No,
it was sitting on the counter in the bathroom
likely story yeah, because I Because where the
gel is placed in the bathroom is completely absurd
to she teleported to get it I Already told you
teleporting was bullshit story, but we're going
with the teleportation thing so So what's the
most drunk you've ever been Danner? Oh you did
you did the time travel thing Sean's it was else
drunk you've ever been Most drunk I ever was
was on New Year's Eve Of course cliche no meeting
my girlfriend's friends for the first time even
more cliche and then they she wasn't your girlfriend
afterwards No, we're still this was yeah. No,
we're still dating two years almost and now her
friends are no longer friends with her Is she
perpetually drunk? I haven't checked to the you
know, the IV drop in a while, but I'm guessing
yes Is she still breathing Shauncey? Are you
breathing for her dude? I told you if you breathe
in and breath comes out you're fine No, but it
was it was I had I had I told my boss at the
time. I don't want any other days off. I want
New Year's Eve off and I want New Year's Day
off because I hadn't got a chance to just like
cut loose and like forever. So they put me working
on New Year's Eve until 1130 and then in New
Year's Day at six o 'clock in the morning. I
stopped drinking at about quarter to four in
the morning. And then slept till about five got
ready and drove the 45 minutes to work. Yeah,
but that worked out Well, it was fantastic. I've
never sweated from my eyes before but it was
no it wasn't Going anywhere just It was crazy,
but I got up very politely went to the bathroom
puked Got out. No one had noticed I got down
and then I went over to whisper my girlfriend,
but it was like so loud. I was like I just puked
in the bathroom. So you went all Batman on her?
Yeah. Where's the puke? With vomit breath? Yeah,
that's how I get the ladies. Well, it was they
were asked me how my day was. Have you guys ever
played a King's Cup? No, no, no. Gross. OK. Is
it like is it like quarters? But. With Game of
Thrones rules where you kill everybody after
they lose. Although good idea. No, it's basically
it's just a drinking game like, you know, if
an ace comes up, everyone has to do this. If
this comes up, you have to do this. And there's
one that's called waterfall, which means everyone
drinks and you cannot stop drinking until the
person before you in the line stops drinking.
And I had a screw vodka and orange juice screwdrivers
in a beer stein. And every time waterfall would
come, I would just chug it. Oh, orange juice
and alcohol make for more. Yeah, they do. When
I was, you know, younger than I am now, as most
stories happen to be, I was my friend and I,
we would play. And actually, I can segue this
yesterday talking about games. What are games?
I don't know. So my friend and I, we were, I
don't know, it was like Early 2000s. It's like
2002 2003 We spent most of our summer night.
I was in middle school you old fucks we spent
most of our summer nights playing Baldur's Gate
Dark Alliance and What was it secret of mana
cooperatively And we would spend the entire night
drinking, sitting on the couch, drinking. And
as anyone knows, or most people should know,
when you're drinking and sitting on the couch,
you don't really realize how drunk you're getting.
Until you stand. Yes. Then it hits you all at
once. We would usually sit there for four or
five hours drinking and playing these games.
And then we would try and walk upstairs. And
those were good times, good times. So so what
have you guys been playing? Lots of things. Well,
thank you. All right. What do you said you guys
and these not you? I forgot Joe wasn't here Silence
and we thought he was still here. Yeah, you don't
get the awkward Random joke about Shawn that
hurts him deeply No matter how much we try to
drive you away. I'm like a domestic violence
victim. At this point I just want it. Please
sir, may I have another? I'm glad that we're
not popular enough to get hate letters because
that would have been a lot of them right there.
I don't care. I'm glad we can't do this stuff
in person. Why? We could do it in person and
be fantastic. I don't know. I think it would.
Joe, or Joe, you're not Joe. Hi Joe. Am I drunk?
No, I would pay good money to see Mike drunk
Yeah, oh I would I would Jason has seen me drunk
my friend Ben has seen me drunk Ali. I don't
know that Ali's even seen me drunk. I know Mike
seen me drunk Well, yeah, cuz usually when I
hang out with you you're at home drinking and
I have to drive to a hotel I'm just gonna say
your bachelor party. Oh, yeah oh yeah that was
dumb what's really weird is i was drinking that
night and jason kept giving me beers but i don't
ever remember feeling drunk my problem was i'm
out of the house and i don't have any kids i
need to catch up with you guys four beers in
five minutes and then i was like keep drinking
I don't even remember what movie we watched that
night. I'm a giant fat lug guy. You would be
proud to be that giant fat guy. If I saw the
title, I would know what it was. Actually, I
can find out what it is. Because I remember who
was in it. Because I remember we watched it because
it was Sean William Scott. Was it Evolution?
No. Wait, what? Who was in it? Oh, it was the
hockey - was it the hockey movie? Goon. No? No,
not Goon. It wasn't a good movie then. How can
you not find Sean Williams Scott? Uh, Bulletproof
Monk? No. It was like an independent movie. Like,
nobody - Oh. Star Craving Man? No, it was on
Crackle. Was it Red State of Mind? Nope. Balls
Out. Gary the Tennis Coach. What? It's called
Balls Out. Never even heard of that. Yeah, thank
you crackle. It was a direct to it was a direct
to DVD movie No, wasn't that even get there as
a director crackle nowhere else That movie was
actually pretty it was actually pretty good for
me You were how you were drunk without even knowing
and how do you get the gauge a good a movie?
I was I was in the bathroom majority of the time
puking my guts out. This is true. He was Dana
ruin my bachelor party Dan it's like but it sounded
magical over the sounds of And I told Jason like
the next morning. Yeah, I puked all over your
bathroom. He's like really I was like I cleaned
it all he's like Huh, okay, then why did you
notice like you're a good drunk cleaner? I'm
considerate Consider drunk gotcha What can I
say if I'm gonna make a mess I'm gonna pick up
after myself So games Tanner, what are you married?
I've been playing knack I started playing Knack
again. Yeah. I haven't picked it up since the
first week the PS4 came out. And so I would imagine
Knack kids were all over me last night and I
just wanted to play a game and it was the only
kid appropriate game I have on the PS4. I imagine
Knack is good in that same way that I find Skylanders
to be good. It's challenging because I. go it's
an action platformer that launched with the system
so I'm gonna start it on the most on the highest
difficulty which pretty much allows for absolutely
no mistakes whatsoever because if you get so
frustrated yeah if you get hit more than once
you're dead so it's very it makes it far more
strategic it was a pretty pretty game because
I mean it looks pretty much like an animated
Like what is the studio imagine you films? It
kind of looks like a you're playing one of those
game one of a game That's in that animation style
like the guys that did astro boy and TMNT Okay,
so it's a pretty it's a really pretty game. It's
just I You really have no idea what's going on
as far as the plot goes, but it's pretty are
you just not paying attention? No, I'm paying
attention. I'm having a really hard time figuring
out a lot of people's motivations in the game.
I just know there's humans that live in the city,
and there's these trolls that live on the outskirts,
and these trolls have technology, and for some
reason you're fighting them because they have
technology. then the guy that's out there with
you who's upset that you have this magical creature
made out of relics is mad that his robots aren't
good enough and then all of a sudden he kidnaps
your assistant and you have to go after them
after you beat up the trolls sounds entirely
plausible I like that story mmm it sounds like
the plot of a Transformers movie you don't say
no no no no you would have said explosion like
four more times than there if it was not it sounds
like the plot of Transformers Age of extinction.
No, cuz I just Let's see. I didn't let's see
trolls. No, I'm going on Friday. Not really.
I'm going tonight I'm going on Friday pretty
much against my will tomorrow I'm going tonight
and I have to go to a 930 show because Michael
Bay doesn't seem to know how to make a movie
that's under three hours anymore and then I have
to work at Saturday at 530 a .m. Whose fault
is that? I didn't It's mine. Who's dragging you?
Joe and Tim. You could say, no, you can. You
don't have to give in to peer pressure. No, because
me and Joe always go see the Transformers movies
together. It is tradition. Tradition and how
I hate it. Well, you got to be able to hate things
in a group. It's better to shun them like others.
I met someone the other day that liked. Transformers
2 but did not like Transformers 3 and I was shocked.
What a dill hole. Shocked. It's the dumbest thing
I've ever heard. They probably like racism too.
Have you talked to me? They probably like racism
and being punched in the nuts repeatedly. I'm
just assuming I've never met this person or don't
know who you're talking about, but I'm just spitballing.
I was just shocked. I was stunned. I turned around
and walked out of the office. Oh, my God. I watched.
What is it? Cinema Sins, the 20 minute. Revenge
of the Fallen Cinema Sins. Holy crap, is that
hilarious? It's on YouTube. I cannot top your
you're shocked. Look, both we want to go see
my shocked look. I look anything like a regular
face is pretty shocking. Looks like it's a blow
job face. I've seen that one lots. Yeah. I wanted
to put it in a perspective that you would understand.
Thank you. I appreciate that. No problem. We
went to go when we my friends went to go see
maybe it was either X -Men or or the new X -Men
or it was Captain America 2. I can't remember
which but it's quite a few years there because
you've got X -Men which came out in 2000. The
new X -Men movie. Yeah. So Days of Future Past.
Days of Future Past. And in America the Winter
Soldier because I don't know this is Captain
America 2 is you say Danner don't make me skull
-fucking there hasn't been a Captain America
2. Yeah, it's just been Captain America Winter
Soldier. Okay And X -Men Days of Future Past,
okay, I can't remember which movie it is. Okay
now I follow you talking we were talking about
stuff and it was like right around the time when
uh The 75th anniversary of Batman I think it
was either had just passed or was just about
I can't remember. They were talking about our
favorite. Yeah, 75 years Anyways radio Joe Fuck
you We were talking about their favorite Batman
movies and two of my friends that Batman and
Robin was the best Batman movie and they weren't
joking and then they started making out with
each other No, and doing each other in the butts.
No, and the one is educated. He knows things
He's not like stupid to comic doesn't mean he
has good taste No, no cuz we agree on almost
every other movie what but they I agree with
every other move with these kids Except they
said that's the not even that they're good movies
that are that Batman is a good movie that it's
the best Batman movie Compared to all of the
Batman movies. I said Transformers 2 You can't
compare Transformers to Batman you can too throw
Arnold Schwarzenegger in there He was a robot
and he was mr. Freeze there compared Like out
of all the Batman movies yes, like even the Christian
Bale ones Christian Bale ones like even mask
of the phantasm Can we talk about nipples for
a second no no no no I have to talk about what's
this what why Sean needs new friends because
what the hell I want to talk about nipples for
a second. Can we talk about nipples for a second?
They're pointless. They serve no purpose unless
you're a chick. Can we talk nipples for a second?
Seriously. I was at trivia a couple of weeks
ago and there was a Batman trivia question and
it was what was the first Batman movie to famously
feature nipples on the bat suit? Batman Forever.
Whatever. Yeah. No, wrong. Apparently it's wrong.
It's Batman and Robin. No, I challenged it I
challenged it because there are bat there are
nipples on the Batman Forever suit Yeah, and
they said that I was trying to challenge it with
the guy that was you know and responsible for
the point tallying and everything and then some
other nerd came up next he was No, I've seen
the suit There is a distinction between the nipples
on the Batman Forever suit and the nipples that
are on the Batman and Robin suit But he just
acknowledged the fact that there was nipples
on the back. It was something to do. I think
it had something to do with being like one being
like an areola. And the other one being a nipple.
Oh, sorry. Oh, God. Oh, yeah. So don't worry,
because that guy went home and just fondled himself.
OK, I'm curious. So listeners, why don't you
tell us what was the first Batman movie to feature
nipples on the Batsuit? Will tell you that you
know what? It's probably Adam West because I
imagine had been cold on the set sometimes at
his That doesn't matter it's sticking through
the suit suit though. That's yes. I'm saying
that's probably the first Body underneath the
suit is an extension of the suit. Yes. Yes Okay
He seems more like an undershirt guy. I don't
really think you would see it through the 66
suit. Really? Yeah. Him and his young ward? You
think he's putting on more clothes between the
two of them? I don't think so. Yeah, I'm pretty
sure. Hey, since we're talking about Batman,
how about that Arkham Knight delay? Woo. You're
happy? Video games, no. I'm sorry. I blanked
out. What was that? They delayed the new Batman
game. Yeah, it's in January. Well, okay fine.
You know what we were talking about Batman. I
thought I'd press steer it back around towards
video games. I'm just saying I don't Originally
when they said delayed I assumed it was like
in next year But it's like from October to January
which I was fine with that's still nice here.
Oh Shit and it's February. It's still the fiscal
year. Okay, so anyways Did you guys watch the
gameplay stuff of the Batmobile? In a test, whatever.
How would you think of that? Amazing. Right.
Yes. Like, I wasn't going to buy it. No, I was
always going to buy the game. Oh, I mean, I was
going to get I still have not played origins
or just as a bad. No, it's it's but I told myself
if I can't get a new copy for 20 bucks or less,
I will not play that game. I'm pretty sure you
can now. It's like 24. Oh, my Lord. Said you
$5. I will take your $5 and he's still not by
the game I'll send you $25 in pennies do it Imagine
how much that's gonna cost and shit. It's gonna
cost you a lot Okay, wait, let's talk about Arkham
Knight for a second. Does anyone The gameplay
footage that they've showed Does that look next
-gen to you? Like do you actually see that game
and go? That's next -gen. How much actual gameplay
have you seen? they've shown quite a bit like
the sony's at sony's trailer at sony's press
conference at e3 that was all gameplay yeah but
i mean i don't know it's hard to tell just graphics
at that point but i'm just i'm because everyone's
like trumpeting it is like i don't know i guess
like it could be considered the that's not the
first true next -gen game because i think that
goes to assassin's creed unity given that it's
not you know cross -platform it's only on one
but I don't know. I have they said Unity is not
going to have a. There is a there is a. The PS3
in the 360 version is a completely different
game. Like there is shares the name. No, it doesn't
show the name at all. They're developing to less.
I knew they were developing two simultaneous
games to come out at the same time, one for,
you know. 360 and ps3 and one so unity is the
is the next -gen. What's the other one call?
I don't know. I they didn't even mention it e3
I wonder if it was like canceled or not I'm looking
if they were just let you see it just seems like
it would be that a waste of resources at that
point, but it's ubisoft who has more resources
than they know what to do with and they would
like to make money it seems like putting your
game out there as a reason to sell systems like
as a system so I mean that's a gutsy move for
them but I feel like they would also do something
to kind of you got Far Cry 4 coming out in all
systems what do they care oh Far Cry 4 oh okay
I was gonna I thought one of the things we could
talk about it's just kind of games that are coming
out this year that we're looking forward to but
I was looking at the release schedule I was looking
at October and I was looking at a game that Danner
is you know kind of excited for Which is Sunset
Overdrive. Be quiet! I'm not saying anything
bad. I'm not saying anything bad about it either.
Sorry, I thought I muted the microphone. There
was kids. Oh, I thought you were yelling at me.
I'm like, don't yell at me, Bob. No kidding.
I think I muted it and then un -muted it. I actually
like, shriveled back in my chair for a second
like, I'm sorry, don't get the pet. My mute button
is way too sensitive, I apologize. That's what
she said. Yeah, so I'm curious Tanner. Yes. What
do you think the chance for success for Sunset
Overdrive is? When it comes out a week after
Battlefield Hardline and Evolve it comes out
the same day as Assassin's Creed Unity and then
the week after it is Call of Duty Advanced Warfare
and Halo Master Chief Collection that whole fucking
time frame is well then i can tell you right
now that i don't need to buy it when it comes
out and i could just wait till the first week
of january and pick it up for 20 bucks when it
gets buried yeah does that make you kind of sad
for that game or i can wait till march when it
becomes one of the first uh xbox one game for
free games for gold does that make you kind of
sad it does because stupid i was gonna say they
should just I don't know. I don't understand
game companies anymore should take a game like
that and drop it in the middle of summer when
nothing's coming out You need to you need to
do it like what Far Cry 3 did Far Cry 3 didn't
come out around anything else as far as I'm aware
of anything else big Yeah, but was anything else
was anything else big coming out at that time?
It was right after Call of Duty obviously and
yeah Assassin's Creed, but yeah, but how long
after not even like two or three weeks It was
pretty really a set Far Cry 3 was left to die
The the thing about it is it was actually good
Yeah, and I think what helped it out was the
fact that it came out right before the holidays
And I think word of mouth helped that one out.
Oh, it totally helped it because of the fact
that most of us that felt so burned from Far
Cry 2 were like I don't want to play it, but
it looks good, and then we bought it. We were
like wow This is a way improved. It's like oh
my god. They put out a balanced game Instead
of it being a game where the shootings okay,
and then the driving is atrocious Okay Let's
okay now I guess we can kind of Cover some stuff
that Joe and I covered since I've got both you
guys both of you guys here now to just have a
little deeper discussion about this But what
what a three discussions deep discussion? It
can't be any deeper than the beginning of this
podcast though Balls deep plus two. At E3, what
was the most surprising thing that you saw or
the thing that got you the most excited? I had
no, I mean, I'm not crazy excited for Sunset
Overdrive, but I didn't know that existed before
then. I'd also never not hadn't seen anything
except the game art for. Far Cry 4 Watching an
element smash a man. That was hilarious. That
was pretty you can blow the Elfins up That's
- Don't be a dick. Actually, I'm sorry, you can't
- Not even more of a reason than by the game.
I don't think - Actually, actually, I'm sorry.
You can't blow them up. You can kill them and
then you can skin them for the little glob of
meat that you get out of them. Wait, wait, can
you skin them and then sell their ivory on the
black market? No, you skin them like you do in
Far Cry 3, where no matter how big the animal
is, you still take the same chunk of meat, leaving
the rest of it for waste. Well, that sucks. I
was hoping we could just, you know, take the
ivory off of it and leave the carcass and not
take anything else. You know? Like a real poacher.
Sorry, they don't condone real poaching in Far
Cry. Only fake poaching and people murdering.
Bunnies, bunnies, bunnies, bunnies, bunnies,
bunnies. Sons of bitches. OK, so we got Far Cry
and we've got Sunset Overdrive. Rainbow Six Siege.
I will say the the Unity multiplayer stuff looked.
Amazing. Yes. Yeah, Ali's making me buy a copy
of it, too. Good! I was gonna say, I guess the
most surprising thing to me about E3, that shocked
me the most, was how willing studios were to
come out and show games that are obviously several
years away. You mean, so EA? So EA. I don't know
what the... hell's going around in that camp
but seriously come on some of the stuff that
i heard was because the battlefield hardline
stuff had leaked early and they wanted to replace
it with something no it wasn't that they wanted
to replace it with something i think more was
leaked with that hardline thing and they kind
of just want to get a get ahead of I have a really
hard time getting excited about a reskinned cops
and robbers game that should have been an expansion
pack. I played the beta. I mean, it is fun. There's
definitely that way. You have to play that game
way different. You would say it's fun. You already
buy expansion pack games like Saints Row 4. Hang
on. Hang on. Hang on. Let me finish, bitch. It
is. I mean, it's battlefield fun, but I completely
agree with you. But that is not a standalone
game. That is. Is it Saints Row 4 fun? By the
way, they're releasing a Saints Row National
treasure Yeah, so answer his question addition.
This is for fun. No, anyways Saints. Nothing
is that amount of fun? Okay hardline though Honestly,
there was something about just like the watching
the videos were hardline that I Don't know. It
just felt like they put battlefield in your backyard
And I felt like it was just like vertical game.
It was so excessive like it just look you know
No, shootout is going to make a building fall
For your revolution shit. It looks like payday
if it was directed by Michael Bay, so payday
Explosion bushes it's pain and gain the game
Pain and gain what a wonderful movie yet to watch
it It's on Netflix. It's in my queue. It should
be in your queue. It should be in your eyeballs.
You should actually leave. I watch them with
my eyeballs. You should leave right now and be
done with the podcast and actually go watch it
right now. And it has nothing to do with the
fact that I'm sick of listening to your voice.
Yeah, you could have ended that sentence after
you need to leave now. And then I would have
known exactly what you meant because you're an
ass. And I love you for that. I'm sorry. Amazingly
enough, this is actually how I'm nice to people.
Sunday morning at the kind of like when when
someone when you actually don't like someone,
you don't even take the time to insult them like
you're not worth it. Well, I tell that it's what
I tell my employees at work. I was like, if I
don't make fun of you, it means I don't give
a shit about you. I don't give a shit. If like,
you know, if I don't like you because I don't
talk to you unless Dan is doing it behind his
back, he doesn't really make fun of me all that
much. I don't know how to take what he just said.
Take it with a grain of salt. Up your ass hole.
It's because I actually respect you. You're a
lot funnier than I remember. You're so good.
It's the same reason. It's on the same level
as every single time I make fun of Joe and then
I immediately apologize and feel bad afterwards
because Joe's such a good human being that all
of us just wish we could be as good as him. He's
the pinnacle of human existence. I just want
to put that out there. No, no. I wouldn't say
he's the pinnacle. But he is definitely like
the next step in evolution. He's the next echelon.
He's like he's like a high functioning nerd.
What? What is that? Is that like a person? No,
a high functioning nerd. Does that make you a
person? No, he's like a nerd. But yeah, like
he does go in his basement, but then he goes
out and does stuff too. It's really he's a high
functioning autistic kid is almost what more
so with that came off. Listen, that's kind of
what I meant to show that I have tried multiple
times to steer this towards games and just keeps
going way off the rail. I tried to talk about
games once and you said, no, I wasn't didn't
mean you by you guys. We were talking about games.
I'm just taking my hands off the wheel. We all
played Destiny. Take the wheel, Jesus. We did
play Destiny, I forgot. We did play Destiny.
Daner, why don't you tell us about your experience
with Destiny? Because it apparently blew your
mind. Well, it's because of the fact that I hadn't
been paying that close of attention. Like I saw
like the early stuff from Destiny at last E3.
And besides that, I was just kind of like...
I want to get my hands on it. I don't really
want to read about it I don't need to really
do anything besides. I just kind of want to get
my hands on it so when the alpha came up I was
very excited to get an air quotes around alpha
Because it was more of a beta because that is
like that is the beta well It makes me wonder
what the boat is gonna be it's gonna be that
but with like you can go to a higher level Hmm.
I had you better be able to keep your stuff for
all the level 9 shit that I got I bet you they
wiped the server they could wipe the server That's
fine, but that was a mean cock tease to give
me all that level 9 weaponry in and welcome Did
you murder cave in the opening area? Yes? Like
go in there everybody's level 11. Yeah You guys
walk in front of me and just see them get destroyed
and I go I'm out of here I started shooting them.
I went in with I think it was like level seven
at the time I went and I started unloading them
on with a heavy machine gun that I just unlocked
and no numbers were coming off them just Exclamation
points and I was like, oh shit. I'm gonna run
your bones. Yeah Looks like their version of
like borderlands like red skull. Yeah, it's exclamation
points Like you ain't doing shit. You better
run away Go run over there where those guys are
gonna spawn every three minutes. I was impressed
with it because I don't I was expecting it to
basically be a reskinned Halo. Which, let's be
honest, it is and it isn't. It isn't. It isn't.
You could definitely if you had didn't know going
into it that it was Bungie, you'd be like, man,
this is a ripping off Halo here. Well, and it
just the look and the look of it is so. It has
Halo aspects to it, but it has a lot of aspects.
an art style that Mass Effect kind of had. Yeah.
But it's got a play. It has a play style that's
more it has a Borderlands play style, but it's
a much more serious tone and just it feels grounded.
There's not that silliness there. And so what
you're saying seems more adult. And I just enjoy
it. So it's like what the original Borderlands
was supposed to be. So yeah halo and i don't
think it would have worked in that environment.
I don't think I don't think a serious borderlands
in the environment that that it is is would work
quite as well as Destiny does what you saw the
original concept video for yes borderlands because
it looks a lot like destiny like yeah, I don't
think I think the humor came from the art style
change. Yeah, I I think that And the art style
change for Borderlands came from they were releasing
around the time of Fallout and Rage, which was
and it would fall out and it would have been,
you know, a third game that looks like. Yeah.
And so they were like, well, let's let's make
this. And that was one of the nice things about
Borderlands is that it was they essentially had
the game kind of complete and they went back
through and kind of reskinned everything with
that cartoony look and it broke some stuff and
made things look kind of wonky. And that was
like charm of that game. But Joe and I talked
at length about the love for Borderlands versus
Borderlands 2 last podcast. But I think we can
say that Borderlands 2 was a good game. Borderlands
2 expansions. Yeah, that's the game. The game
itself was fantastic. The second they added anything
extra, you're like, well, the second they added
anything extra or sort of fixing stuff in Borderlands
2. That's what did they change about the vanilla
game really they redo? Level grinding yeah, they
remove all the max level at that point. Well.
That's not the point I It was just a lot of fun
to I had a lot of fun playing that game. It's
a fun to break the game Yeah, but every time
they fixed one a new thing popped up, but not
as it just stopped being be in Conference call
started being something else and then after that
it started being something else The one thing
that I think really impressed me about destiny
I think was the the sound design and the score
Peter Dinklage, I don't blame. Yeah. Well, I
don't think his lines were that was the next
thing is not was not good. That was just line
delivery is oh No, it's a wizard. He came. Yeah,
it's very Hollow and just not I get he's a robot,
but give me some pretty you don't have to be
like a soulless robot You know what I'm saying?
You're a magical robot made from a piece of though.
We can't all be valve robots Peter Dinklage.
I I love you Game of Thrones and I loved you
in x -men days of future past but for fuck's
sake don't do any more voiceover work Because
man Actually, I've heard that he's done a lot
of voiceover work. Well, fuck you, dude. I'm
whoever was doing directing of that's what I'm
saying. I don't voice acting. No, do it more
playing. You're a robot. You're just a companion.
No one's going to pay attention. Okay, so enough
about Peter Dinklage. There's never enough of
it. Well, actually, there is a finite amount
of Peter Dinklage. Okay, the one thing that you
said the score like in the sound design. stood
out to you what really stood out to me and destiny
and what i've actually noticed a lot more with
uh this generation than i think past is the lighting
in the games has gotten way better ridiculous
yeah um It's like one of the first things I noticed
about destiny was was the lighting and yeah,
and then your reflection and pools of water on
the floor and Little subtle details never check
that out. I never looked at my own reflection
in that game I had a bunch of people tell me
afterwards like oh, man, you can see your reflection
stuff. Like really I didn't I never looked down
in that game so I mean, I like it. I'm really
excited for the actual game But I was excited
for the game like anything any developer that
puts something out like they wouldn't have to
say anything like when they do a little trailer
like the first words they could put up in the
trailer could just say co -op and i would be
paying attention to that game yeah regardless
of what it was well every game is better with
friends it was not only that and i think daner
can agree because i think joe also agree but
maybe you too shanze is like when i play a game
i don't i i kind of like to be able to play with
my friends too so i'm instantly going to pay
attention to anything that's just like So I don't
want to just said any game is better with front
happy any game is better with friends I just
like being able to spend time with my friend
That's something I'm saying you can take even
a single -player game And you put your friend
next to you sitting on the couch or in your ear
on Skype that game gets better Even though it
has nothing to do with the game. That's true.
I mean remember infinite I wasn't playing with
you. I was just chatting with you. I think I
know That made I think that made my experience
that game much better that ruin that game for
me It didn't actually really talk having me in
your ear would ruin it for you We just didn't
we didn't share we didn't spoil anything about
what was actually going on No, we're just kind
of oh shit. You're about to get that you're gonna
have fun in like 20 minutes, man It wasn't even
like that either. It was just oh shit And that
was like what what nope? No, nothing nothing.
Well, what's gonna happen? Tell me new Nope.
And then 20 minutes later you hear him go, shit.
Like, yeah, I told you. What do you think of
Destiny, Sean Z? You're going to pick it up in
September? Oh, yeah, definitely. I will say I
want less of that fucking fetch quest thing that
we were doing. Oh, God. Yes. God. I don't know
if you came across the same thing as us, Dan.
We have it was basically you'd go into that that
main area. Made the battle area or whatever.
Yeah, and there was these little I forget what
they called them They were basically little transmitters.
Yeah beacons and you have to go in active We
were doing that for like 45 minutes to an hour
and we had gone through it had sent us back and
forth Through that center building like ten times
It was backwards and forwards and backwards and
forwards and it was like Every time you pick
one up you'd see that the the waypoint had changed
to fucking in the building. They got And it wasn't
even in the building. It was just trek back through
the building to get to the other side. And so
then you go over there and you do the objective.
You collect the 10 of whatever they tell you
to collect. And then all of a sudden the beacon
that was near where you are gets activated. So
then you go and click on that beacon and it says,
okay, now go back to the other side, trek back
through the building. Oh my gosh. Blow my brains
out. And I just, I'm... Obviously, it's the beta
and they're not gonna do a whole lot of story
stuff But I'm really hoping that the story just
kind of overrides all that stuff Well, that's
not at the beginning of the game either. No,
it's not but I'm just saying I hope the story
Overrides or at least hides that stuff a lot
better I was gonna say the one thing that made
me laugh about the game is how freaking plain
and simple the menus are I Like that actually
well, I think it's a good building block for
a first game in a series when you're trying to
establish a bunch of game design elements, but
it just seems like, I don't know. To me, it seems
like they're laying the bricks for something
bigger in the future. Do you remember how complicated
the menu system and stuff was in the first man's
effect? Yes. Yeah. So I think I specifically
think that they're trying to mean how overcomplicated
everything was. Everything. Yeah. Oh, my God.
That game wanted me. Like like you have the Titan
armor, you know, one X. Now you have the one
Z. What the fuck? You're like. But I seriously
think with the menus, at least they're trying
to avoid that. I did run into that with the guns,
though. That's like these two guns. One says,
you know, one is. Almost insignificantly better
than the last one, otherwise they're identical.
And I wasn't a big fan of like a dinner. Did
you see what guns look like when they're laying
on the ground? No, like a wet like a new gun.
It looks like a hologram. You cannot tell what
it is until you pick it up Yeah, and you can't
tell what kind of equipment it is. That's because
I think it's tailored to who picked it up. I
know But it's it doesn't be like if I but if
I'm looking over, you know at it that I see it
looks like a little flick a little tiny like
a hollow octagon cube or something right just
chilling there like a glass you can't tell anything
about it even if it's yours only no one else
can get it i have to pick it up first i can't
you can't oh it's a new gun sweet i'll make a
beeline for it i think i'm trying to avoid that
because if you notice um i i don't i'm i'm kind
of hoping there's control over who can enter
your game and who can't i'm sure there will be
So I don't think they wanted people setting up
private matches on their alpha build so I totally
get that I and the other thing I kind of want
to try when the game actually hits is Playing
outside of a party. I want to see what the community
is like Oh with just normal people the community
is gonna be like every other thing Well, if it's
PlayStation 4 so no one will talk No, it's actually
the other way around. No, it's really not Really?
Yeah Oh, you know what it is? I bet you everyone's
just gone into the party stuff. Yeah. Well, now
now that it has a party system, people are in
the party system, which I get that. But it sucks
when you're not in a party. When, like, say,
if I'm playing a game and you guys aren't there,
at least you can bust out sweet dance moves.
Yeah, Ken. So. Anything I do like being able
to spawn your bike. Anyways, just just yeah,
that's way too complicated though I hate the
second going in the other menu. I wish it was
like who complicated you hit you hit a Wait,
what button was it to bring up your navigator
guy? I? Can't remember. Was it back? It's not
it's a touch pad and then you hold X I don't
understand why you just can't hold square because
what is holding square do for you in the game?
Anyways, I don't know. Maybe it'll be like a
Contactual button like who hold X to download
their computer, whatever Anyways, would you really
want like you're in the middle of doing something
else in your bike spawns, which has no guns Is
there anything else city three that kind of excites
you guys? How'd you think the conferences went
They're okay, yeah, I mean I wasn't blown away
cuz I catch the Microsoft one It was weird how
they would like highlight like did you see how
they had the when they would have people demoing
games during the Microsoft thing they had him
like standing in the middle of the audience on
circles thought they're being abducted it was
weird Let's cut to these people. You don't need
to know who they are, but we're going to show
them anyways. Oh, yeah. And you like showing
a guy standing with the controller does not mean
they guys playing the game at all. No, usually
they're not. No, because that because that would
be dumb. Like the guy what's like, say you send
the, you know, whoever development or guy on
stage and he sucks. You don't want to show a
game of a guy sucking to demo how good it is.
What was that game, Dan, that we were watching?
And they were using an Xbox one controller. And
I said that that's probably on PC. And you said
no he's using an Xbox one controller. I said
no he's got the they just released the drivers
Was it Yeah, but don't but even then don't the
drivers have like Isn't it like a little bit
isn't there like a latency I? Don't think so
Because isn't a driver's just to work around
for the computer to be able to get to the I want
to say it was like Ubisoft because we were both
watching it. You know what it was? It was Division.
Yeah. That was, I wish something new had been
shown. They did show some new stuff. They had
an awesome trailer. I was more excited by the
old, okay, the trailer, but I was more excited
by like the gameplay from like way back when.
Well, they showed some really cool gameplay in
this one where they came up on the, they're trying
to grab that building as like a base. I saw that,
yeah. Well, what was wrong with that there was
no there was nothing wrong with it and that was
really cool But I just want to more Yeah, like
the okay They showed me how a guy can fly in
on the tablet and mark stuff, which they showed
the other one Show me how the cover system works.
Okay showed that the other one Showed me. Oh
people can talk together tactically. I get it
I will say I've never talked that tactically
in a game in my life. I did Ever actually said
the word flank when I was actually being flanked
I think we actually did when we were I don't
know if it's probably before we met you but We
all got into We were pretty into modern warfare
Wait didn't we didn't we meet on I thought we
met on Call of Duty like a before modern warfare
No, I my first Call of Duty was modern warfare
Oh really? Oh geez, never mind then. And I remember
like really playing with you with Left 4 Dead.
Yeah buddy. Which was a year after. There was
no coordination there, just panic and running.
Eventually there was coordination. Okay. Oh you
got hit by a boomer, I'm leaving your ass. But
I remember calling out people in Call of Duty,
like you know, there are Jews in the attic. Yeah,
oh man, yeah man Frank's house, oh man Jews in
the attic Thank you. Thank you Jason. Oh Jews
in the attic Wow. Oh I haven't I haven't heard
someone say that in so long and I immediately
know exactly what you met. That's fantastic.
Good show I mean I can you can talk that way.
The problem is is that the game needs to encourage
that And a lot of a lot of games don't encourage
that because you have the regenerative health
and You know, you can you're basically a bullet
sponge up to a point and I think that's one of
the reasons why Danner and myself and Joe I think
are we're excited for What Danner kept saying
which was Rainbow Six Siege? Yeah, I still have
yet to watch the trailer for that It I haven't
at the time it's basically one shot one kill
Well, I've played rainbow six games so I've never
played one I'm just away from but the the idea
the the coordination that they that was displayed
in in siege and just the video for siege like
What's the last rainbow six gaming played Vegas
to Yeah, yes Do they still have the dumb thing
about when you reload if you empty if you like
shoot half a cup then reload? One of your clubs
this then half empty for later. I don't know
They used to do that and that fucking would annoy
me cuz you know from playing Call of Duty Every
to you know, if I'm not in combat, I try to reload
Cuz I'm so realistic. No, I'm not saying that
I'm just saying like I don't know what's in the
next room I'd go play Rainbow six and so by the
second half of the mission I have a bunch of
clips with like five or ten bullets in them.
I'm like shit Well, don't you know in Call of
Duty? You're actually an alien and you have an
extra two set of hands So do you eject the clip
and you put a new one in your second set of hands?
Which go unseen are slowly reloading another
clip for you. Well, obviously Obviously that
could be the only that's why you need the exoskeleton
armor for the next one. That's what it does Is
anyone excited for the next Call of Duty? It
looks pretty. It looks cool. There's a new Call
of Duty. Are we done with Call of Duty? I don't
know. I know I've said that you've set up my
battlefield that I'm done with battlefield. Yeah,
I've gotten rid of my battlefield, my copy of
battlefield. So. I don't know. Well, Hardline
isn't enough. That's definitely a game that if
I do pick it up, it's going to be a wild on the
road. There was an offhand remark that. Offhand
mark and confirmation so to speak that Titanfall
is coming to the ps4 Titan like original Titanfall
or are they gonna call something at least Titanfall
2 and if it is the first Titanfall we call something
else Rearmed and reloaded or whatever Titanfall
Titanfall or Titanfall or Titan spring like Titan
down So I think that's that's a game I mean I've
I played for like three seconds on my friends
Xbox one And I would like to play that a lot
more. I think at that point, I mean. I bought
I obviously I bought Dan or Xbox one and I bought
we both have Titanfall and I bought it with the
intention of playing that sort of Call of Duty,
but Dan and I have stopped playing Call of Duty
all together. It just sucks because I bought
the season pass. Do you really? I did. He didn't
learn his lesson. So I think I'm pretty sure
I'm done with Call of Duty. I mean, especially
looking at what's coming this fall. I mean, so
much shit. Consumptions have to be made. You
know, you can only worry how much stuff is coming
out. It's kind of like I'm going to have to push
some stuff back. Obviously, I can't get them
all at once because I wouldn't be able to play
them anyways. And I feel like, man, I'm going
to cheat myself out of whatever experience it
is. Whatever game gets pushed last is going to
mean that I'm going to feel bad about it. I don't
know. I'm looking at like the release, you know,
the release schedule. According to what's been
released so far and there aren't that many games
like if you subtract the games that I'm just
that aren't really on my radar there's only evolve
and for well evolve Far Cry 4 and I Swear there
may have been something else, but I can't think
of what it is. Oh destiny obviously Wait, there's
like three games and usually there's like way
more I was expecting I wasn't expecting III to
be as 2015 focused as it was I Will tell it like
you brought evolve the thing that worries me
is I mean we've all played Left 4 Dead Multiplayer.
Yes. Yes. No, we have it now. Okay now how many
to shut up bitch now? How many times in that
versus mode would you see people just quit because
they weren't coming as the zombies like well
I'm not I'd rather I'd rather quit now and try
to join a game where I could start as a zombie.
I think I have to play through. How do you pick?
I think you you you pick at the for what I understand
is you can just when you load up the game and
you go in to play multiplayer, you can choose
to play as the monster. And what it'll probably
do is it it'll put you against four other people
for the people that are playing the game, because
you can start a multiplayer game without somebody
playing as the monster. And it'll just be an
AI. Really I didn't know that and I think if
you start playing as the monster the the hunters
will just be AI until they're actually populated
by people The game doesn't rely on having full
teams for both sides. Yeah that and okay Sam
playing with you guys Mike you're the monster.
Does it do anything to the party chat? That is
unknown Would imagine it probably would that
party chat no unless you're Microsoft and then
you allow developers to override the party chat
Maybe but still but I'm saying is that it's Okay,
say we're not on party chest. They were just
in ready to give on you Does that mean for the
direct direct, you know the entirety of that
match? You can't hear anybody. Yeah, you're playing
with your friends, but you can't hear them Yeah,
or is it like maybe maybe you whisper sweet nothing's
in your ear about no, but it could be something
I know I would Hey, do you feel that on your
shoulder? It's my monster dick. Dink, dink, dink.
It's a steel balls. Monster penis. But like it
like something cool, like the closer you get
to them, the more you can hear the humans. And
if you talk as the monster, all they hear is
like. Can we not? That would be great. Are you
kidding? Every time you talked, it was just a
monster yell. Oh, there is a game that's coming
out that's not on this list. Oh, it's that one
Good description GTA 5 GTA 5 that's not a new
game. No, but it is coming and it's not on this
list I still have not gone back to see what that
bet was. I'm pretty sure I pre -ordered my copy
of Diablo 3. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah That's it's you'll
like it. It's a really fun game. Are you not
getting it? No, I'm so I've played it already.
I mean, I'm probably gonna get it because the
expansion is gonna be in it, right? Yeah. Yep.
Yeah, but I know I'm saying cuz I've played through
Diablo 3 a lot I'm saying you guys I've been
just saying you guys are gonna really really
enjoy 1080p 60 frames a second I don't think
really matters that much in that game to be on
the left for dead dungeon Yep, but I'm sorry
not left for dead and show the classes There's
a shadow of the classes dungeon. I don't know
if it's dungeon, but they do have character shadow
the classes characters and Last of Us characters
unless all I want is if I can get the same bow
that my guy is using now Then it'd be great.
Well see that's part of the problem. I know that
they can do ps3 to ps4 No, no, no, no, I don't
care if I get my character switches I'm saying
if I can find the same bow. I'm sure you because
I have a bow that shoots poison chickens I'm
sure you could well obviously what else yeah,
and it has a chance to clock all bows shoot Chickens
poison chickens only in hot shots So yeah, I
don't but see like Diablo 3 I don't know for
some reason I I'm gonna get that for some reason
He's kind of like right right that off and I
think that's because like I also matter when
you get it You're gonna like it's a game like
if you want to play it The point like if you
want to play it to really play it you're gonna
be playing it for a long time What we need to
do is just we need to do a gaming night So there's
a reason to buy all these games do Yeah, just
one night in order to play all the games. Yes
What really is gonna last for three weeks what
I want to see happen and I'm hoping it does eventually
I would like them to cuz you know all both consoles
can stream to twitch I really wish they would
allow you to do the party chat in Twitch. Oh,
you'd be able to pick up the other people's voices?
Yeah, because I think that would make it, like,
I could definitely, you know, play in Evolve
or any of these games, any of these cooperative
games and stream, like, we could totally do,
like, an off -the -cuff, you know, gaming night
where we all sit down to play Evolve and we stream
it and everybody that's in the party can go,
you know, they can all be in their chat. You
know, everyone can hear us all talk. But right
now it's just if we're doing that, they can only
hear me. And who wants that? I know. Unless they
go over and watch Dan or play, which who wants
to watch Dan or play a video game? Not me. Only
people that want to see somebody die a lot. The
last time I watched Dan or play a video game,
it was when you, Dan and Joe were playing. What
were you playing down in his basement? That was
a long time ago. Yeah. Well, and I got to watch
Dan or shove a controller down his pants. So
that was the only way I know how to play games.
Yeah. It's it brings a whole new dimension to
button mashing. Yeah. Well, all right. That's
why I always like the original Nintendo controller
better, because less buttons, you know, less
buttons, one for each testicle, one for each
testicle and at least stick on the D -pad. OK,
I think we've wasted enough little listeners
time. No, let's wrap this up. I'll wrap this
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Network ID? I don't know. I have no idea. Is
it Weapon Forever 01? Yes. Yes. Weapon, the number
four, the letter V, the letter R. Number zero
the number one Wow, I thought boost Nintendo
name is terrible that used to be old that used
to be my name on Xbox a long time ago But everyone
and like I'd get in the like lobbies of like
who's weapon? Spelt words like normal English
speakers wouldn't have his help it he's from
Oneida Like microwavable potatoes there Wait,
what? That's someplace else. Microwavable potatoes?
Is that what he said? Well, see you guys next
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