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Gone Home and Bioshock Infinite: Burial at Sea Review
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better than ever. Oh Yeah, crystal clear bitches,
and we have Sean Z Brown So, you know what I'm
curious Have we ever had the conversation where
the name Sean Z Brown came from? Because it's
not even like, I mean, obviously, Sean Z Sean
is your name, but where did the Brown come from?
Well, how did I get that name? Yeah, isn't always
constantly rolling around in his own feces. I
left that open. Oh, it's an old work nickname.
We said this girl who got her hair cut and she
looked just like Lucy from You know peanuts comic
so I started calling Lucy. She called start calling
me Sean the brown Pulling thing out from underneath
you and have you like flip over hit your head
just a self -esteem. Oh That's not very nice.
Nope never am can't keep a good Sean down Unless
we're talking about Sean Z Brown then we're always
keeping him down So just like a couple episodes
ago when we were super lazy Because I well I
was super lazy because I just want to play my
PlayStation 4 Didn't release an episode last
week due to time constraints or no Two weeks
ago is when I should have released it But now
you all listen to 38 and to get everything caught
up and so everyone's on the right page We're
just gonna do 39 and 40 at the same time And
then I'm gonna sacrifice my Wednesday nights
to edit the podcast and get it out on Thursdays
for you people So I just think it's hilarious
that the fact that the week of PlayStation 4
release we can't be bothered to do it a podcast
but the week of Thanksgiving of Course, we'll
sit down and do one. We're like, ah, dude video
game release can't can't do this P .S. Thanksgiving
holiday. We're like, yeah, let's record. It's
good. Oh, we didn't do one on Thanksgiving the
Wednesday before Thanksgiving. We did the no
we did one the Wednesday after So we've actually
been absent for about two weeks Yeah Yep, so
we're just trying to get I'm trying to get everything
caught out so that now when we record an episode
It's timely and then your comments and feedback
and everything that all matters instead of just
going right in the trash can The lack of recording
explains why I've gotten to play and finish so
many video games lately. Yes, because you do
all of your video gaming on Wednesday nights
between 8 to 9 p .m. 8 to 10, it's just a blur.
It's a blur of random. He's just cycling through
the controller. He's got them all on his coffee
table, like the PS3 and the... PS3, PS4, and
the Vita are all sitting there on the table,
and he's just like, input one, input two, Vita,
input one, input two, Vita. Please, coffee table,
he's a pro. He has his legs up, and he has a
controller on each thigh, and then the third
one's in his hand. You said thigh. That's where
the dark meat is. So, what has everyone been
up to the last week? Dan, you have been finishing
games left and right. Yeah. I've been knocking
it out. The one I'm interested to hear about
or at least have a conversation with you about
is Gone Home. OK. As we all know, I gushed about
it earlier this year. And I know we had a conversation
via text about it, but I thought maybe we could
talk about it a little more in depth. One of
the things I asked you was, did I? In your opinion,
there's two questions I have for you. One is,
did I over or under hype the game for you? And
the second thing is, you picked it up on a Steam
sale for five bucks. Yes. Now, having played
it and finished it, would you have paid the 20
bucks for it? Would you have felt cheaped paying
the 20 bucks for it? I'm kind of a cheapskate,
so probably 20 bucks I think is a little much.
10, 12, anything below 12, I think I would have
been very satisfied with having spent it, but
20? I mean, it's literally a number one. Set
aside two hours and play it all the way through.
I will say you you you will get way more out
of it if you just do it in one sitting And it's
just Like okay Because it's an indie developer
and after playing it and enjoying it as much
as I did. Yes I probably would have been okay
with playing 20 bucks Okay, if it was EA or Ubisoft
or a major corporation, I would've been pissed
with paying 20 bucks. Because as an indie developer,
I would've been okay with it. Yeah, I think if
it had been a full -on AAA team that made a two,
three, four -hour game, and that was it, and
they slapped 20 bucks on it, I think I would've
been irritated as well. But when you sit back
and you realize Fulbright, I think is somewhere
between four and eight employees working out
of their house. Yeah. Yeah, I yeah, I totally
understand what you're saying So I just Did I
did I did I over or underhype the game for you?
I know you said I like kind of tipped it a little
bit, but I Think it was a pretty even keel I
don't think you you Undersold it or oversold
it. I think you were pretty spot -on with what
you said The I think the one thing I asked you
is if it was scary Spooky. Mm -hmm. And you said
the ambiances. Yes, which I kept think I don't
know if it's speaks to me as a the person I am
or the gamer I am but I Just felt like something
horrible was going to happen the entire time.
We're playing this game No, that's not user that
I felt that too. So the the environment And the
sound just convey a sense of dread, just like
it's building towards something terrible. You're
just waiting for something bad to happen. I can't
tell you how many times I'm just expecting a,
like a flash of somebody to be behind you, just
to turn, just to mess with you. Or I kept, I
don't like this when we talked about it. I just
kept expecting, um, to go up into the attic and
see somebody hanging from, from the rapture or
something. I was just like, mentally I was in
this mindset that this has to be building towards
something just horrific. Yeah, well keep in mind
the game is made by X I think it's I know it's
X 2k Marin guys, and I think some of them came
from a rational, too I think it's like a 50 -50
split and they're guys that worked on the Bioshock
games So the entire time I was playing it I was
expecting you to get that classic Bioshock scare
that we've talked about many times in this podcast
where you're Investigating something and you
turn around and something is right in your face.
I was expecting that a lot like Almost every
time I walked into a new room, I was very wary
about how much time I was spending looking at
any one thing. It's like I haven't looked around
in the last five minutes. I'm going to do it
slowly. I'm going to clear this room, and then
I'll investigate something. But hold on. I'm
not going to look at this note for very long
before I check my corners again, and then I'll
go back and go back to rummaging through a desk
or something like that. Because I did when I
was playing it. was constantly thinking something
was just around the corner or something like
that and they do they do it really well with
the sound design because they put you in this
house and um I guess we can kind of talk about
a little more a little more now because it's
a little older and anyone that hasn't had a chance
to play it yet you need to find a way to play
it but without spoiling it like you come you
play a character that has come home from like
a year -long vacation You've been in Europe for
essentially a year. Right, and you come home
and your family has moved into a new house, so
when you come home... It's a house you've never
been in before. Right, which works out great
because you as the player has never been in the
house either. So the house has all these unique,
you know, house sounds that houses make, like,
you know, creaking floors, the furnace and stuff
like that, and... It's just, it's a giant old...
house. It's everything that you hear or experience
in the house. The moment you get the backstory
of how old this house is, the ambiance makes
total sense because of how creaky the floors
are and just shit you hear off in the distance
at some points of the game, which will creep
you out. Now, I know you and both our friend
Andy Played it with headphones on I did not get
the luxury of doing that because at the time
I was playing it I had three kids tearing around
the house like it's the apocalypse So I didn't
get the opportunity to to play with the headphones
on but I played it with my speakers cranked on
my MacBook and it sounded fucking fantastic That's
just how good the sound is I mean if you you
get the opportunity to play with headphones totally
recommend playing with the headphones wasn't
an option for me at the time, but I got the,
uh, just as much of the creepiness without using
the headphones. Um, the, uh, the other things
that add to the creepiness, cause you, when you're
playing the game, you learn things about the
house and all this stuff kind of happens. And
that'd be the very beginning. So hopefully isn't
anything shocking, but it turns out the house
is actually a relative's house and uncle. Who
there's He wasn't all together and kind of went
crazy and killed a bunch of people You know as
uncles do as uncles do Was he a great uncle or
he was a regular uncle? He would have been I
think the character is great uncle, but it would
have been You know it might have been me. I think
I I kind of took it like a completely different
way as far as the uncle going mad I felt like
it was um little bit of child abuse yeah that's
what I thought it was I was like I don't think
I uncovered as much as the uncle stories you
did or Andy did because I only unlocked one of
the safe lock things in the entire game somehow
I missed everything else well that might be why
it only took you two hours to get through the
game yeah um which is very unlike you Know cuz
usually I'm incredibly thorough. But for some
reason I just cannot find anything with Combos
on it with the exception of the locker and the
sisters room, which I think you have to find
Because you that unlocks another portion of the
house, right? I think the other like I never
got into the I Never got into the cabinet in
the dad's writing room and I never got into the
safe in the basement They did the safe in the
basement. I don't remember the cabinet. There's
a cabinet with a dial on it that's locked up
in the dad's writing room. I don't know if I've
ever been in there. Huh. And I never found a
code for either of those. I did do the one in
the basement, and I think that's where you...
It's really when you get into the basement of
the house. That's the one that tells you... Because
Andy told me about that one. He said that reveals
a lot about the relationship between your father...
And the uncle. And basically sets it up for the
uncle was essentially molesting your father.
Right, yep. That's how I took that. Yeah, no,
the whole, everything in the game is very like...
Messed up. Well, personal. Incredibly personal.
That's the one thing that I think about. That's
the one thing that I really enjoyed about the
game is the fact that this could be any family.
This this is not. Well, I mean, not everybody
has psycho uncles. I'm just saying that it's
OK, but if you remove that, like I'll say like
the family on the surface, it's very much like
anyone's family, like anyone's immediate family,
like the deeper, the deeper stuff like like the
like the part with the uncle. Yeah, that might
not be everyone's family, but like the on the
on the surface, like just the immediate family.
That's like. I've felt some of that stuff because
a lot of it is you start seeing what her little
sister went through the last year and all the
changes that she went through. Even though it's
from a girl's point of view, anyone that's been
through middle school or high school and has
felt at all awkward about anything can totally
relate to the story in this game. Yeah, and I
mean, it's following the story, you know, essentially
of your sister and piecing together the last
year of everything that's happened in everybody
in your family's lives. And just seeing the struggle
and most of the main story is essentially what's
happened to your sister. Essentially, it's kind
of why is nobody at the house? What the hell's
going on? And then the main focal the main focal
point is, you know, your sister and what's happened
to her and It's interesting to see how the story
progresses because it's just this narrative that's
slowly unfolding and giving you more and more
info throughout it. The narrative is just so
well done and the story unfolds in just such
a natural way that it's really easy to get caught
up with. with what's going on with these characters
and The way they lead you around the house is
awesome, too Would you find the porno underneath
your dad's bags? That was awesome Just the or
the journal entry of your sister's where she
starts talking about making out Yes, and then
she goes I'm not finishing this. Yeah, that's
That that's really that that was one the entire
time we're talking like I was I was gonna I was
gonna waiting to bring up that that was probably
my One of my favorite moments in the game and
that made me and it was in the creepiest part
of the house, too Yep, and I was just like it
made me laugh out loud. That was was like Can
we say what an awesome house that is though?
It is I fucking live in that house. That's an
awesome Sean Z if it ever there's they the Fulbright
guys were on the one of the recent episodes of
rebel FM And they've talked about they're looking
into porting it to other systems So if it ever
comes to something like that, I highly recommend
playing it. Okay, maybe So I mean we haven't
really spoiled anything other than the fact that
it's just a really really good game And on the
awesome VGX Awards, it was the indie game of
the year Yeah, there were a lot of people that
were mad about that About the fact that they
won the indie game of the year about the fact
that the VGX's were fucking terrible both Okay,
I was like what they prefer to be the winner.
Yeah, what they just it's the same issue It's
it's like why does a four three four -hour game
get to be you know game of the year and again
again there are a lot of people that don't understand
like I Feel like I feel like you have to be a
person to understand going home I don't think
it's a game that most the dude bros don't get
dude bros won't get the madden guys and they
call it dude call something in the face we call
duty bros again like dude let's get people together
and we can like totally kill people and then
afterwards we could jump on madden work our destiny
modes and so so you're talking keanu reeves from
bill and ted okay i feel like i feel like if
you can play flower and appreciate it as a video
game or journey Yeah, journey's got more journey
has more video game mechanics in it than flower
does But any dude bro is gonna be bored 20 minutes
in the journey. Yeah true But I think so yeah,
I mean I was gonna I was gonna throw journey
in there too But a little more a little more
loosely cuz like it's I Don't know. I don't I
don't I've ever played a missed game Has it that
was one of the things that I want to say it didn't
remind me quite a bit of missed but like i don't
know i don't remember there's no puzzles i mean
do you can't reminded me of mist except for the
fact that i wasn't bored that's true but then
again i've never played him this is this is Mist
was one of those games when I was growing up
very young that I was like, oh yeah, mist and
I play mist. I'm like, this game is awesome.
And then I would do like the first two puzzles
on my own and be like, this is bullshit. And
then I would go online and then look up all the
how to do all the puzzles. And then I would fly
through the game and then he'd go play Doom because
he's a dude, bro. It was actually quick, but
whatever. I was more of a quick guy than I was.
Alright, so that's us recapping Gone Home. If
you haven't played it, find a way to play it.
Obviously, if it goes on sale again, of course,
I will tweet it out and I'll retweet it on the
Geek Gas Radio stuff. I was going to say, I thought
it was like, wasn't it just 10 bucks recently?
It was five when you bought it. It was five on
Black Friday, but then it was for Cyber. Monday,
no, it was 50 50 % off for all VGX games that
So it's probably over Well, cuz all the nominees
were like 50 % off on Steam. Well, there's that
You can always put it on your wishlist on Steam
and then they will send you an email the moment
It goes on sale when it's on your wishlist But
yeah, I highly highly recommend it obviously
Danner enjoyed it and I know a couple other people
that you know picked it up on my recommendation
that listened to this podcast they actually enjoyed
it too, so Let's see What else have you finished
Danner? I finished We'll start with the beginning
of my finishing things I finished Bioshock infinite
burial see part one Holy shit. Now is it like
one of those things where it just, it's the part
one, like we're having to wait for the next part
is just going to kill you. Pretty much. Um, and
I suspect that it's probably going to be March
or April before we get part two, which is going
to kill me even more. Um, it, I mean, essentially,
okay. You start off in Rapture, you're a PI in
Rapture and. Elizabeth shows up at your door
from Infinite and it becomes blatantly obvious
pretty shortly in that the Elizabeth that shows
up is the actual Elizabeth that you play along
with in Infinite. It's not some other reality,
Elizabeth. And there's just subtle things throughout
the game. You make you know comments to her and
then her response as he goes something is just
not fucking right here at all and Then the last
three minutes of the game happens and holy fuck.
Oh my god. Oh, oh my god. Um, I don't really
want to spoil it for people that aren't you know
haven't played it because just The shit hits
the fan and like the last three minutes of that
DLC and then it just stops and you're like what
the hell just happened It's kind of almost like
the epiphany moment at the end of infinite but
more so without a quarter of the explanation
you're just like, huh and Awesome at the exact
same time. So it was really cool. I mean if you
have the season pass and We're diligent and waited
and didn't get rid of your game because God it
took a long time for the DLC to come out It was
well worth the wait. I'm very, very interested
to see where they go. The entire game takes place
in essentially, you start in Rapture, but then
the majority, the bulk, the meat of the game
takes place in Fontaine Futuristics, which it
turns out that they, because what's his name?
Can't think of his name. Somebody help me out
here. I think you're the only one that finished
the game, aren't you? No, who played Bioshock?
Not me. Oh my god, you guys all suck. Wait, which
character? Andrew Ryan. Andrew Ryan got pissed
at Fontaine and it turns out that when Andrew
Ryan got pissed at Fontaine, he sunk Fontaine's
building in Rapture. So Fontaine's building Fontaine
Futuristics is kind of sitting at the bottom
of the ocean separated from Rapture and you're
the girl you're looking the girl you're looking
for has gone has been taken away from you and
has been turned into a little sister and is on
in Fontaine Futuristics so you go there to get
her and That's where all the splicers are And
Rapture is still in its heyday. So I'm interested
to see what's going to happen because something
has to happen in part two of the game in which
the Splicers somehow get to Rapture from Fontaine
Futuristics to God. Because if I recall, I want
to say this happens New Year's Eve. This is like
leads into what causes the fall of Rapture. So
this DLC actually links it everything together.
Well now okay, does it? It's not really a link
though because it's not really like really so
it's just it's just putting it's just saying
Yes, they all exist in the same universe, but
I I yeah, no, I'm sorry. I'm not trying to start
argument or anything I just it's it's it's weird
because there is no There's no singular continuity
present in Bioshock infinite It's all cyclical.
Right. I mean, that's what they made that infinite
that that infinitely obvious at the end of Bioshock
infinite was the fact that it's all cyclical.
All starts with the lighthouse. Doesn't matter
if you go up or down, it all starts with the
lighthouse. So I mean, it's. But to me, the way
they're making it look, though, is that this
issue with. between Elizabeth and Booker. Whatever
the fallout of this is essentially perpetuates
the entire storyline of Bioshock 1. So whatever
this issue is, is that they're resolving in this
DLC from the way that it's leading towards. It
makes it look like everything that comes from
this burial at Sea DLC actually causes the events
that make Bioshock 1 happen. Okay. That's cool.
In that universe. That's how I mean it's connected.
So far, Elizabeth is, well, there's other characters
involved which make it far more interesting,
but I don't really want to... The Lucite twins?
The Lucite twins do show up. Yay. Yay. fan favorites,
loose eyed twins. Um, so, uh, I'm assuming if
anybody has the game, they've played this already.
I know I was a little late to playing it because
this came out literally three days before the
PS4 came out. And I only had an hour to put into
it before the PS4 came out. And then I just kind
of was like, I need to play my PS4. Okay. And
then after two weeks of playing PS4, I was like,
okay, I need to go back and finish some stuff
because I need to get some stuff lined up for
the game of the year things and finish some stuff.
You know, I'm right there with you about going,
I'm, I'm, I need to go back and finish Arkham
Origins, but. Okay. That is not going to be in
your game of the year. No, it's not. Trust me.
Once you finish that game, you'd be like. Okay.
So it can't be any worse than the ending to City.
It can't be. No. I think it's a little bit better
than the ending to City. Okay. But... Well, that's
all we need to say about that. Yeah. I liked
Bioshock Infinite. I found Bioshock Infinite
easier to... Atmospherically... It's more of
an action game than it is a horror game. I was
going to say I found Infinite more atmospherically
playable than Bioshock. Does I think bio Bioshock
is a little more? Scary I think it's creepier
and I think it's just it lends to more I think
the Bioshock and Bioshock I wouldn't even say
Bioshock 2 Bioshock 1 is more has that Thriller
horror style right to it or Bioshock 2 Bioshock
2 isn't spooky to me because the fact that from
the beginning you're playing as a big daddy and
it's the same and then we've talked about this
before it's the same mentality as The Batman
game when you're playing a Batman game doesn't
matter the environment. I'm in a fucking Batman.
I don't know Batman I can't be scared Batman
what what's the worst thing I could come across
another bad? Exactly. It's in its Bioshock 2
is just like I'm a big daddy. It was fucking
worse than a Big Daddy. Well, I mean, it's built
up so much in Bioshock 1 of how terrible the
Big Daddies are that when you get in the Bioshock
2 and you start out as a Big Daddy, you're like,
fuck everybody else. Well, see, here's the thing.
And we can get back to the point that the question
I was trying to ask is... I am totally out of
wine. This is terrible. And you keep dropping
the F -bomb. If you could cut back on that just
a little bit. I'm trying to, but... It's colorful.
I understand. And it's really good. Trust me,
your enthusiasm for these games is coming across
in spades. I love how he coddles me with his
words. I feel like when we say like they're OK.
The reason I keep saying when I play a game like
when I play like the Arkham games, nothing really
bothers me or can scare me or anything like that.
I'm not worried about anything because I'm Batman.
In my head, the line, the movie line that always
runs through my head is the line that Qui -Gon
Jinn has in episode one, where he says there's
always a bigger fish. Yeah. I just, for some
reason, like the whole big daddy thing in Bioshock
2, I always, I feel like there's a bigger, is
there, I feel like they introduced a - Little
sisters are supposed to be a bigger fish, but
to be honest - They're not. Honest, when I'm
fighting for them at the exact same time in the
finale of the game, and I'm just wrecking house.
Constantly. I'm just like, yeah, okay. Yeah,
they move quicker, but I hate harder Okay, so
basically what I'm saying is my logic is there
is no bigger fish than Batman Correct. Did you
ever remember facing killer croc in the first
game? I Mean he was a bigger fish, but he's not
harder you still beat him But he's not the but
killer croc is by far not the world's greatest
detective. So there's a fool in that line. Okay
We got way off track here. Okay, where does burial
at sea fit into this? I don't think it's been
fully realized as to where it fits in with part
one yet. I meant play -wise. Is it atmospherically
similar to Bioshock or is it atmospherically
similar to Infinite? I know it takes place in
Rapture. It's atmospherically similar to Bioshock.
I was tempted to try and play. It's a little,
it's kind of hard to say because it's a hybrid
of both because you come across a skyhook, which
they don't call it skyhooks in there. They call
it water hooks. If I was going to play it, I'd
have to hook my 360 back up. Because you get
the skyhook, so there's some tracks in certain
things and a lot of the fighting mechanics are
very much infinite. But the atmosphere feels
way more Bioshock. So is it creepy? It's a little
creepy because everything's run down. Okay. Unlike
in Infinite, everything's falling apart around
your ears. And you're there like in it's that's
the thing about Infinite is the fact it's a populated
city and it is more like the end of Infinite.
Okay. All right. Where things have... How much
is the DLC by itself? I know you got the season
pass. I got the season pass, which was 20 bucks.
I want to say it's 10. You know, I looked it
up while you were talking about it. I'm pretty
sure it's 10 because the DLC pass includes the
trials, which... Haven't even played because
I'll admit I'll admit even while we were playing
Like when we when we're playing infinite and
you go Sorry, if you haven't played the game,
you should probably play it when you go when
you go back to Rapture for that brief moment
Yeah, that was like one of the most intriguing
parts of the game to me Like I honestly wanted
more of that and that sounds like what this might
be Well, you could play by a shock one or two
Stop it. I'm just saying You're starting to sound
like a woman with your logic. Oh, I'm always
very logical. So I will take that as a compliment.
Yeah. I've been told that I need to spend the
money and get Minerva's Den on Bioshock 2 because
everybody has pretty much told me that. You can
poo poo on Bioshock 2 all you want, but Minerva's
Den DLC is probably the best thing to happen
for that entire game. Well, isn't more of the
people that worked in Infinite worked on Minerva's
Den? That's the way I heard it when I read articles
and stuff, is that a lot of the people that did
the story and stuff for Infinite were the people
that did Minerva's Den, which weren't the people
that did 2. Which I need to play through Bioshock
2 on the PS3 since I have not done it. I own
it, but I picked it up for... The low, low price
of five bucks, and I have to actually play through
this. I played it on Xbox. It's 15. 15. Just
buy the season pass. 20 bucks for the season
pass, because if... Part one's 15. That means
part two is going to be 15. You get part one
and two for 15. You get part one and two because
this included in the season pass. No, no, no.
If you just buy those two episodes. No, it's
1499 just for episode one and it'll be 1499 for
episode two. So you're telling me I could buy
episode two, but not one. That makes no sense.
I didn't say what? Huh? If they're selling them
independently, why isn't it just you buy episode
one? Wait a minute when two comes out you get
it with it. That's weird. No sock infinite and
season pass bundle free I can't be right. Did
you buy the season pass and not remember? I don't
have I'm looking at the I'm looking at the PlayStation
store. I bought infinite on the 360 because it
was the lesser of two evils I bought it on the
ps3 because well, I just kind of You started
running the 360 at the end of that generation,
I don't know why. Right, at the end of the generation,
you started switching over the PS3. At the end
of the generation, I just wanted... It's all
your fault! I just wanted the games to look good.
I know, but the entire reason I even got a PS3
was completely your fault. I was a one system
guy that entire generation. Yeah, I wanted to
steal them away. I'm sorry. I had you get the
system so you could play infamous and uncharted
and complete. And then I started playing those
games. Oh, man, the exclusives are way better
on here. And people aren't dicks online. So there
is no one online. Those four guys are really
nice. Hey. They are just as douchey on the ps4
as they are in the 360 Yeah, that fear that fear
I had where if it's the cheapest one and everyone
has a headset Yep, they all came right on over
and they included a headset They all came right.
I done. Hey just because you're a faggot camper
just So what was it? Faggot whore can't forget
for a camper. Hey, at least we're not saying
the f -word. That was a gave her fucking faggot
whore Yeah, that's what it was. That's what I
was called. It's always a super racial or Sexual
orientation comment. I mean which Automatically
tells me that most of the people to make those
comments are closeted homosexuals that urge for
black men Every single one Mean if you're gonna
go you don't you go full bore. Yeah, I was gonna
say if you're gonna go gay You might as well
go for the biggest luxury model All right So
anyways um So if you're just tuning in So the
other thing I picked up was um I got getting
way ahead of myself because I'm super excited
for season two of Walking Dead. So what do I
do? I bought Wolf Among Us, the telltale fables
collaboration and played episode one of the Wolf
Among Us and super fun, really well done. Storytelling
is great. The graphics, great gameplay, great.
Awesome very very happy with it. It was well
worth spending the money Yeah, I'm tempted to
get this. I mean I did but the other one that
wasn't really my thing, but maybe this one It's
just as gory and bloody as the Walking Dead is
You need to play Walking Dead Chauncey. Yes,
you do. It's just you're missing out But no,
I was gonna say if you have a thing against that
at fables is great. I Amazingly enough usually
whenever I read the comics or something totally
I'm bored with something But this is gonna be
the reverse thing is I've never read fables before
And make sure to playing the first episode of
this. I am totally going and buying fables volume
one very very soon I've already looked into the
pricing for the Kindle edition. So I'll probably
picking up Some fables comics soon because it
is just incredibly enjoyable If you've never
played Fables before, and let's say maybe you've
watched the TV show once upon a time, and like
me, you've been constantly disappointed the entire
time you've been watching it because you feel
like it's just not quite missing. If that's the
case, then watch Grimm. Fables is that thing.
Then watch Grimm. Yeah, or watch Grimm. Fables
is a fairy tale based gritty New York drama.
type of a show The way I've heard it described
is it sin city with fairy tale creatures pretty
much. I would definitely say sin city with fairy
tale creatures it Surmises the whole thing very
very nicely wraps it in a nice little bow and
package but I found I found more enjoyment in
the three and a half hours I played Episode one
than I did in the first two and a half seasons
of once upon a time Because yeah So yeah, that
was so I played through that And then I also
finished Tearaway on the Vita Which if you own
a Vita by the game If you don't own a Vita and
you know a person who owns a Vita, borrow their
Vita so you can play the game. And if you just
don't own a Vita, this is a reason to buy a Vita.
And if you can't afford it, just steal it. And
if you can't afford it, just steal it. Oh, wait
a minute. Whoa. Hang on a second. That's a tall
order. Well, I don't endorse stealing anything.
No, no, no, no. I don't mean that. I don't mean
that. OK, so. Okay, so essentially you're telling
people... I'm saying that this is the definitive
title for the system. You're essentially saying
that you would have paid $250 for this game.
Yeah. Really? Yeah. I think this is a good enough
reason to buy the system. Okay. I'm... This is
as good of a system seller. No. Okay. Wait a
second. Let me preface that a little bit If you
like fun If you like warm feelings in your heart
if You're not completely dead inside You will
like this game. So it's not for you Mike. This
sounds like everything we just said about gone
home If you're a person, you'll like this game.
If you're a person, you'll like this game. If
you're a dude, bro, not going to like this game.
If you don't like things that are creative and
original, you won't like this game. If you pretty
much spend most of your time playing MLB and
Madden, you won't like this game. If you actually
sit down and watch NBA basketball, you probably
won't like this game because I'm sorry. NBA basketball
is scripted much like professional wrestling.
Okay, I'm just I'm just giving you I'm just giving
you some shit because I've played the The demo
and I enjoyed what I played. I'm just I'm just
giving you the same kind of shit I gave you for
no go for it. No, I don't I actually ready this
time No, I unlike to where I was just where I
just shut down and go Mike you're an asshole
And this is why we're friends No, I enjoyed it.
Although I sat down. I laid down in bed and I
decided to fire up the demo for it. And of course,
like you said, you are the sun. Yes. And so it's
really weird. It's like me while I'm laying in
bed. And that was just kind of awkward. Well,
it's really weird because every single time I
was playing it, I was either in bed or in the
bathroom, so it made it way more awkward for
me. There's something about seeing yourself in
the game. I'm not knocking the game for that
in any way, shape, or form. It's just one of
the things that I enjoyed the mechanics. Do you
ever get the ability to jump? Yes Okay. All right,
just checking. No, trust me. That was annoying
to me for a while, too That's the one thing that
I think is interesting about the game is the
fact that it introduced Constantly throughout
the entire game. It introduces a new mechanic
all the time and that's It did something that
other games don't do to me, which is the fact
that they You introduce a mechanic and you kind
of use it through the level and then they kind
of put the mechanic aside It's still there and
it'll be utilized but it's not as heavily relied
on and they introduce a new mechanic they're
us introducing new mechanics to the last level
of the game and Then the game ends and it's it's
weird is the fact that like literally constantly
introducing new elements, and they're not using
it long enough to where it gets old, and they're
not being really cliché about things, and they're
literally using every aspect of the Vita by the
end of the game. They're using the cameras, they're
using the back touchscreen, they're using the
tilt controls, they're using everything. The
only and they're using the front touch screen
I mean they literally utilize every single aspect
of the entire vita in the game by the end of
it Which I think is feel amazing and it doesn't
feel weird. It doesn't feel unnatural It doesn't
feel stupid. It doesn't feel forced It's not
like hey, we get we have all this stuff. We got
to use all of it Yeah, and the inclusion of the
paper crafting thing like I mentioned last episode
as it's just Neat it's just fun. It's just has
this Childlike whimsy to it that you just don't
get in games and I just I Have far more respect
for Media Molecule after this game Than I did
before which is weird because a little big planet
games are great, but they're not like must buys
to me They're like when I get something 20 bucks.
I'll get it This, to me, raised them to a whole
different level, in my opinion. And I'm not saying
that this is going to be a game for everybody.
I'm not saying that I think the majority of our
listeners, I think if you own a Vita, this is
a game you would enjoy, because, I mean, if you've
stuck with us this long, then you probably are
somewhat in line with the taste that we have.
This is a game you'll - And we're really sorry
to hear that. Hey. I find we have... Well, me
and Mike have good tasting games. I don't know
if I need a shot. Fucking Saints Row 4. So, I
just... It's... It's just... It feels like a
warm hug. That's the only way I can describe
this game. It feels like a hug. It feels like
a really nice warm hug. It feels natural and
fun. And it uses the Vita in a non -cliché good...
nice way. It is just worth every penny I spent
on it. Which was three thousand nine hundred
and ninety nine. Thirty four ninety nine. Oh,
three thousand four hundred ninety nine. Because
when you buy when you buy the digital bundle
on PlayStation Network, you get the game, you
get the soundtrack, you get the characters for
LittleBigPlanet2 and you get the characters for
LittleBigPlanet PSP from the game. Hmm. I'll
have to look into that. You've sold me on it.
I'm not entirely sure why I'm not... Well, my
Vita's not right in front of me. Otherwise, I'd
probably be downloading it right now. All right.
Since Seanzy has to take off in about 40 minutes,
not that we'll go that long. I know you have
a lot more you want to share, Danner, but I thought
we'd give someone else a chance to talk. Well,
I think that was pretty much actually all I had.
Mine's not going to be very long anyways. All
right. Well, I have stuff we can talk about.
Just like your penis. I have stuff we can talk
about. Your wife hasn't had an issue with it.
After Shonze goes, so. What have you been up
to, Shonze? Well, I've been playing a lot more.
I've been putting a lot more time to Assassin's
Creed. Well, you've got nothing else to do because
you're not playing with us. I can't play with
you guys because you guys abandoned me. Well,
I have to ask you the question if you've been
playing a lot more Assassin's Creed I've been
doing that as well, but I've had to back off
because I got to finish some ps3 stuff Does this
like to you because in my opinion Like it completely
makes up for the entire terrible fucking taste
in my mouth that Assassin's 3 gave me This game
makes me feel like like I'm just going like now
we were just kidding guys. This is really the
next one It's like an hour and a half into this
game that game it just clips like the pacing
is so well and the pirate ship stuff is so good
and it just is It went back to what Assassin's
2 was to me where nothing felt like a labor.
Yeah Everything feels more natural the flows
better It doesn't feel like I'm just kind of
like, OK, let's get to the next story mission.
It just. Feel it flows nicer and just feels better
all around an assassin. Oh, yeah, totally. Except
for the fact that Kenway is the clumsiest. He's
a little clumsy to control. See, I don't know
if they did that on purpose. Yeah, I'm not sure
if that's intentional or not I need to I think
I might need to take this from Ali before she
finishes it because she started reading books
instead of playing games recently So it might
be a while. Yes, I I think I might just need
to take her from her and actually play it I'll
give you a piece of advice because you're the
first hour and a half before you start to judge
it Yeah, well, okay because the beginning starts
slow just like any assassin's that's that's fine
but what I what I what I was getting at is I
feel like I Will admit Assassin's Creed 3 was
not a great game. And I've talked on this podcast
before about the only way I was actually able
to get through Assassin's Creed 3 is I had to
find my own fun, which was attacking the squads,
like killing the drummer for the squads and just
chasing down. I don't know, Ellie recording you
being drunk and chasing down rabbits was hilarious.
I was getting that. I was getting that. The whole
like just running around the woods, tackling
and murdering animals and like having like thirty
thousand dollars in pelts on me. At any given
time that was like it took that kind of Me making
the game fun for myself to actually like invest
any time in Finishing the game and as anyone
that actually knows is that my biggest issue
with any Assassin's Creed game is the fact that
it exists inside the animus But from what we
talked about on episode 38 you guys talking about
how you guys get lost in The side mission stuff
like the stuff having to do with the boat and
stuff like that. It sounds like the The side
stuff is more interesting than the actual little
more compelling than the actual game and you
likened it to Assassin's Creed 2 Danner is that
is that kind of like the the Villa was or the
Yeah, because you don't mind because you spent
all that time putting money into the villa and
building that up. It's the same with the ship.
I almost spend more. I did the same thing in
Assassin's 2 where I spent more money building
up the villa than I did building up myself. Yeah.
And that's exactly what I've done in this game
is I spent all all my money and all my resources
go towards my ship because I was like, eh. I'm
a good enough gamer that I can fake it through
the rest of the crap and the fighting and the
gun play and stuff like that without needing
to upgrade that stuff. My main concern is getting
my ship to be burly and manly and just destroy
people. So, and I mean, to me, I just got to
the new element of where I can start capturing
ships and Bringing them into my so good, which
I'm just like I spent so much time on the high
seas just capturing and going after people and
now it Finally just like the element that I can
start getting other ships and I've already spent
like four Four to five hours just doing that
beforehand Just going after people at sea because
I was enjoying it so much now. Now I just gives
you another reason Yeah, and now it gives me
another reason where I can be like well There's
a level four or five over here, which I'm going
to sink to the bottom of the ocean completely
because they're useless for my my guys. But these
level 23 ships, I'm totally taking these for
my own. So it's just like picking and choosing
like. Yeah, I need some cloth or I need some
sugar. Yeah, that's fine and well But man, I
want that shit from for my fleet. I mean it adds
new elements to why you go after people Okay,
so this is all this is great and all and it what
you guys are saying is making me interested in
actually playing the game but like is the You
guys seem to be more invested in like the side
stuff rather rather than the main The story is
good. The story is far more compelling than everything
that happened in Assassin's 3. Kenway is a way
better character than Connor was. Oh yeah, not
even, no question. That dude has more personality
in his left finger than Connor had in his entire
body. I didn't mind Connor, because like I said,
I just ran around tackling animals and murdering
drummers. I don't know if it's just because I
don't find Indians funny, or... I don't know.
Connor... Native Americans dick. I'm sorry. I
was talking about the Cleveland Indians. I apologize.
Let me specify Native Native Americans are fucking
boring unless we're talking about prey Have you
gotten to the part where you unlocked that pirate
island place I've gotten to the point where you've
attacked the Templar and taken over his Port
essentially. I'm taking that. Oh, yeah. That's
your like pirate island thing. Yeah. Yeah. This
island is kind of like I don't have enough money
to build my whorehouse I'm so disappointed. I
built everything else. This is it's just like
the villa you build up the shops that are there
you make No, the thing is is that it actually
does stuff building that whorehouse makes it
so if you go to any whores in the in the rest
of the game Instead of having to pay the money
you just use them Well, yeah, the drug it wipes
out the cost. Yeah, the drunken pirates are free
to me also now. Yes, um The drunken pirates.
It's basically what do they call them? They call
them mercenaries in the last couple games. We're
just a squad of four do drunk pirates now. Yeah
The best part is is you can you you can Get like
one group of people at a time But if any guys
are in open contact with you anywhere near them,
even if you haven't hired them, they'll come
and join the fight All right, so I like getting
guys mad at me and then running past those guys
So cuz they'll just jump on them last tipping
point here What how many times have you been
out of the animus since you've been played since
you've twice? Three times in how many hours?
Ish you believe that in the entire maybe one
and a half or two I was gonna say in the entirety
of the game. You have to leave the animus only
five times. Yeah I mean there is stuff to do
if you want and it's actually interesting to
me Because you're a first person you've never
seen your own face you don't do anything you're
just a hob essentially and The things that have
happened outside of the animus are actually the
first interaction complete bullshit the second
one fantastic well, I just Because we've said
before the one I I have never cared for the animus
stuff like I've always found the story like in
in the animus like the more interesting thing
like you know who you play as like at CEO and
To a lesser degree Connor and stuff like that.
I always find that more interesting as we Again,
I keep saying this we said before I always felt
like the animus was a The animus was invented
because of hardware limitations On the last gen
as a way to get around like loading screens and
all this other stuff I think it was more so built
as a I think it's more of a story arc device
as anything else But I I've just never cared
for it So I'm always I'm the guy that when you
have a chance to to go explore get back in the
animus I just want to get back in the animus
and that's one of the things I really hated about
Assassin's Creed 3 which is they gave you the
ability to get right back in the animus But eventually
at the end of the game They made you do all the
stuff you were supposed to do outside the animus
which really irritated me well In this game,
you're not expl - when you're out of the animatron
and exploring, you're not having to figure out
puzzles, you know, you're not doing nothing.
There's no sense of danger, you can't die as
far as I've - Well, there's kinda - there's kinda
puzzles. Well, there's not there were you you're
hacking into like your fellow co -workers everyone
puzzles aren't that hard Yeah, and it's just
it's like a simple like met like metagame is
like one of those basically like a like a quick
game of Frogger kind of a thing where you just
you have to give me you know move your little
thought to the other side of the screen or It'll
be you have to you have a number And you have
like three or four sets and those numbers have
to multiply out to equal that one and you create
a waveform and eat the list and stuff and you
unlock whatever information is on their computer.
Like the very first one that I unlocked was it
was showing a video of a team of guys working
for Abstergo recovering Desmond's body. And harvesting.
Because throughout this game you're working on
the Subject 17 project. And the reason your team
or sample 17, I'm sorry. The reason you're able
to go into these memories is because you have
Desmond's DNA. Everything is powered. Yeah. Yes.
Yeah. I mean, you don't have to go through any
of that stuff, but I find some of it's really
interesting. Like right now I've been listening
to these audio logs of them talking about subject
zero. First person to ever go into the ever to
use an animus isn't that the guy that was in
Assassin's Creed 2? No, that's subject 16 the
guy was right before okay But like this is before
they were aware that being in it for too long
might cause damage to you Yeah It was like there
was a part I'm not gonna say what they were talking
about But it's like oh, oh, how long has he been
in? Oh, he's been in for and then all of a sudden
just hear this guy just screaming It's like oh
geez get him out get him out See it's really
messed up, but it's it's really interesting if
you care at all you may not care because you
don't care about the World outside like some
of it is interesting to me. Like I always I did
like the I like Subject 16. I like the little
glitches and stuff that they showed you. I do
like the deeper story that is being told. It's
just that the present -day stuff, for some reason,
didn't interest me. It's one of those catch -22
things, because you wouldn't have the game -breaking
glitches and stuff like that if it wasn't for
the fact that it existed inside of a computer,
which I actually enjoyed. But I just feel like...
Maybe it's just Desmond as a character I didn't
really care for. I don't think most people care
for this. Yes, and you won't be climbing any
trees reskinned as cranes in this game. Oh good
Well, that's that's a relief It's do I get on
a mail cart that handles like the boat? No, no
Okay, um, but I'm having lots of fun with and
I just got to the point of my ship that Like
I was I came across there was two or three man
of wars because you can there's when you go out
of the boats not all the boats are enemies to
you necessarily some will be British and some
will be Spanish so they'll fight each other so
you can just look off in the distance and see
two ships battling and just go right in the middle
and attack both of them so I pulled in between
all these ships and I just started firing broadsides
out of both my sides in between them which is
probably a horrible technique but it worked to
park in between the two factions and just start
you know and By boarding a ship, it gives you
three options to lower your wanted level. You
can turn it to your fleet or you can heal your
ship. So you can literally leapfrog your way
through 20 ships you're facing as long as as
soon as you start getting health, you go up to
one of the ones you've disabled, board it, heal
your ship, and then go back out and start fighting
the rest of them. I'll have to borrow it from.
Alley by bar. I just mean like take it from her
and I mean, I'm I'm decent I don't know how far
story wise I am in the game and I still haven't
unlocked the rope dart. Oh, how did the How do
the weapons upgrades work? Is it more like Assassin's
Creed 2 or it's like Assassin's Creed 3 where
you start out with the best thing in the game?
No, you definitely don't start off with the best
one. I mean the best weapon That you can get
for like swords you have to complete every assassination
contracting Get access to them Yeah Well, I mean
you don't have to I mean all it's gonna do it
but they're gun blades There it's basically the
swords that have pistols built into the grip.
So I know what a gun blade is Final Fantasy says
hi Yeah, but um It doesn't change. I mean like
besides damage and stuff, but when you do your
finishers You know how does it always does that
slow -motion kill when you finally kill somebody?
Yeah, but imagine instead you stabbing a sword
to his face then blowing his head off Hmm Yeah,
those heads off and you can also by Completing
all the side Mission stuff you get access to
different things. I want to get the my it's called
Mayan armor or whatever You complete these like?
The my mine mine stones I forget what they were
in the third or you get to a vantage point And
then it would give you like a symbol that you
could manipulate and move and you have to match
it up with natural landmarks Forget it was in
the third one the building glitches. I don't
remember what it was in the third one So anyway,
isn't that an after the game thing in the third
one? It might have been real -world stuff not
In the animus I can't remember but it's that
concept and by getting those you get these minestones
And if you get all of them you unlock my armor
which deflects bullets. It's basically like steel
armor all over you Does it still look like the
Assassin's robe nope? Oh, that's boring Everything
should look like the Assassin's robe. Oh every
if you get if you get a new suit, it looks like
the new suit It kind of Seems a little weird
to me about the game is the fact that number
one you're not an assassin Nope You're posing
as an assassin and you kind of fall into this
whole thing But if you didn't know that you it's
literally in the first two hours of the game
First like 40 minutes of the game. Yeah the The
first costume I got was the shark hunter one
which looks so stupid which it looks dumb But
it looks like a pirate uniform. I mean, it looks
like somebody who's been sailing the seas. It
has nothing to do It was like I played with it
for like four hours with that costume on I'm
just like it's just doesn't feel right like I
feel weird going I don't like not having a hood
Yeah, I'm like this seems bizarre and then I
switched over to the LTA robes And so I was using
those for a little bit because the nice thing
is is if you've played the other games and you
link it up with your you play account you get
You get everybody you get SEOs you can get Connor.
I'll tear SEO and Connor so That's I mean that's
been kind of the uniform things like I don't
usually get caught up in who there's different
skins and uniforms, it's because it feels to
Final Fantasy X2 to me. Just that games is such
a piece of shit. I apologize to any of you that
like Barbie dress of Final Fantasy. So I don't
usually get caught up in the skins and stuff,
but I don't know. For some reason, it adds an
element to the Assassin's games. It just feels
weird not wearing an Assassin's robe of some
sort. So Yeah, I will say that the I was telling
you I believe I told you about this on the last
one How did the companion app for the tablets
where you'd actually do the fleet stuff? It's
kind of broken the game for me a little Because
now I time that I'm playing the game the iPads
upstairs and that's way too far to go for it
Well, the thing is like if I'm bored or whatever
from going poop whatever happens I'll be on my
tablet like oh, you know, whatever send my ships
off again But so you do it with such more regularity
than you would if you were doing in the game
It was like I I didn't think it was yes for two
days when I came back to the game I had an extra
hundred and eighty eight thousand Whatever reels
I think is what they call them the games of dollars
so I could afford everything in the game now
like 350 ,000 So it's so the only things I have
to really worry about is like getting metal and
wood and cloth to upgrade my ship nice Like I
bought everything for that pirate Cove or whatever.
It's called Have all in my whorehouse You know
what that's praying to the choir sister But yeah,
definitely the finest Assassin's game I've played
with a lot and saying that it's an Assassin's
game is So weird because it doesn't play like
a normal Assassin's game at all No, it doesn't
and it's I mean the only real similarities is
the fact that you're Kind of going against the
Templars, but not really for oh, yeah your guy
doesn't care about beating the guy He cares about
himself. He cares about money and he cares about
protecting the pirate way of life. That's the
one noble thing about him. I think the entire
main motivation of the entire thing is he finds
out that it sounds like the Templars are going
to attack NASA and that the entire reason why
he even gets involved is because he doesn't want
to see the pirates suffer. He's very much, I'm
sorry, as he would say, The privateers he's very
much He's like they're better men live and that's
all they are He's a defender of the privateers
and he very much cares for all his fellow pirates
So it's I think that's the noblest thing about
him is the fact that he he does legitimately
give a crap about The rest of the pirates everybody
else is completely expendable though. All right.
Yeah doesn't give a shit about anybody else It's
kind of funny when somebody's like oh this this
guy needs to be killed to be like that All right
good Let's let's move on from there So this past
Saturday well at this past Saturday, this is
really hard to do so A Saturday, and it's different.
The Spiked VGAs, the video game awards, were
relabeled to VGX. I don't know what the X was
supposed to stand for. Extreme! I have no idea.
I guess it's just supposed to sound cooler. But
anyways, they did their annual shenanigans, and
man, it was just as bad as ever. Hey, I don't
okay number one I will defend it in the way of
I appreciate the fact They're not doing it in
front of an audience and not doing the quirky
Really super stupid like let's have a guy dress
up like Kratos and come and accept it I mean
it was obvious to me that the developers cared
more than the people actually putting the event
up. Okay. Let's back this up. They rebranded
it, and they did something slightly different
this year, which I commend them on. It was essentially
like watching an E3 press conference again. It
was not on TV on Saturday. They live -streamed
it everywhere, and it was a three -hour live
-stream where they had... When they did like
a game announcement, they had the developers
come on afterwards and talk about the game a
little bit here and there and stuff like that.
So there was more like upfront with developers
talking about their games and you got to see
them. They got to spend more time with that stuff.
And what they did is they took that entire three
hour broadcast and they cut it down to about
an hour and they released like a highlight reel
on Monday, which was just all like the pertinent.
Stop, I haven't watched to see what they actually
thought was worthy of being highlighted and what
I heard it's only like half an hour long or something
That's surprising. That's what there's their
sizzle reel for them because it was Most the
interactions and interviews were incredibly awkward.
They were awkward because Jeff Keighley Is a
terrible host is it? Terrible host and the other
guy Joel McHale didn't even want to be there
He definitely didn't look like he wanted to be
there. Oh, and he was drinking the entire time
in time So he became slightly more surly throughout
the entire event. I guess I just didn't appreciate
true professional Don't get me wrong jokes Joel
McHale is great. I like Joel McHale on the soup.
I like him on community But this was obviously
somebody was like oh, he's on the soup he could
totally do this thing and They just didn't think
they asked him Joel do you even like or respect
people in the video game industry? It was very
apparent that he didn't didn't it's apparent
that he hasn't played games since the Atari 2600
My biggest disappointment of the night Was the
giant ass cock tease that was Reggie Philamy
from Nintendo Oh showing up with a frickin Metroid
pen With nothing to say about it I with the developer
from retro showing off Donkey Kong Country freeze
and Keely even hit on it was like so you guys
wouldn't say anything about you know announce
anything in regards to Metroid and Reggie's like
nope they look at each other too did you see
that the guy from Metro and Reggie looked at
each other like I hate you so much right now
well and it's okay number one it's Nintendo they're
not going to announce anything huge like that
when Nintendo announces something that means
it's coming out within the year Also, they do
their monthly updates via their website or do
their little meetings monthly. They announce
things there. They're not going to waste it on
VGX. Unfortunately, the biggest issue with the
VGX is the fact that they think they're bigger
than they really are. That is the main issue.
It's like GameStop. managers convention is they
think exclusives or big things are going to get
announced there when the fact that they're managers.
It's a manager's meeting. Same thing with the
VGX is the they're kind of new. They're not really
super established. Not a lot of people are taking
it super seriously and it's spike TV. Okay, hold
on. The VGAs have been around for 10 years. The
VGAs have always been a terrible, terrible joke.
They've been a terrible, terrible joke, but you
can't... I totally agree with what you're saying.
And I understand Nintendo, you know, they think
they're bigger than they actually are, and that's...
But when Sony will show up and drop a trailer
for Uncharted 2 or Uncharted 3, like, where they
used the VGAs to make their announcements, and
those are, like, hardcore games... I feel like
Metroid is a game that you could bring to the
VGAs. I think we're more likely to get a Metroid
announcement at E3. I understand. To me, Nintendo
doesn't seem like the kind of company that's
going to waste it on something like this. Yeah.
And maybe they do that with Uncharted because
they know nothing else is going to get big announced
there. I think they're going to be the big name
there. To me, like... People were clamoring all
day on social media because they did the vote
for like, you know What do you want to see and
everybody was touting division division division
division division division Like okay, we get
a world exclusive brand new trailer for the division.
What did they give the people a? Tech demo they
gave them a Tech demo for the division, which
was I think that just don't get me wrong the
tech demo get somebody like me excited because
that was awesome, but Most people aren't going
to find the beauty in the simplicity of a tech
demo and it's not I don't think it's the The
crowd for of course also in my opinion. I think
they were more tailoring it towards gamers the
moment They made it more of an online thing But
I feel like when they were doing the full release
online and the Yeah. But I feel like, okay, the
VGAs is a place where, like, the Uncharted's
were unveiled, and Skyrim was unveiled at the
VGAs. There were, like, there are other, like,
big games like that. Skyrim, the dude -bro of
RPG games. I don't, do you really think so? I
don't know, I don't play them. Okay, but I'm
just, like, I'm just saying, like, that is the
type of place that that, this has actually been
the most lackluster VGAs in years. I think it
was a lackluster hosting. Okay, I wanted to okay
Nintendo aside I wanted to like jump into some
of the bigger things that were actually like
Announced like some of the surprise things that
happened You mean the fact that it turned into
the telltale's announcement show. Yeah telltale's
ran The show with everything put at the same
time every time the telltale's logo showed up.
I just kept thinking about how diluted the rest
of the stuff must be getting like When you when
they've got when they've got the wolf among us
going on right now And then they've got the walking
dead season 2 coming out later this month And
then they have a tales from the borderlands coming
out which that was the one thing that kind of
got me a little excited It got me excited. You
didn't see coming at all. Well, that's cool tales
from borderlands looks exciting because of the
fact that no matter how Pissed off or upset.
We've been about the DLC There's one thing that
that series has always gotten right and that's
really quirky interesting characters Yeah, which
is what telltale and I think what telltale does
really good with that and I think that's what's
going to make tales from Borderlands Far more
interesting to me. Is that working is the fact
that they just in the trailer that they had Handsome
Jack and the trailer which knowing that handsome
Jack's gonna be a part of this is just like sold
take my money I was like you can have all all
new main characters for this game But telling
me the handsome Jack's gonna be the villain I
was like fucking take my 20 bucks for the season
pass now. I'm ready to go Yeah, I do this. I
showed the trailer to Ali and I was like, I'm
excited for that game She goes, but it's a borderlands
game. I said, yeah, but it's not made by gearbox.
Yeah And then they announced the Game of Thrones
from Telltale. Not the slightest bit interested.
But, okay, I gotta wonder how big Telltale is.
They gotta be huge now. How many people do they
have? They're in the beginning phases of Wolf
Among Us. Tuesday... which this is probably going
to air after it releases will be in the release
of season two of walking dead then they're going
to have tales of borderlands in 2014 and game
of thrones in 2014 and they already announced
that game of thrones is going to be a multi -year
contract type of thing so we're going to get
multiple Game of Thrones chapters. Not to mention
Wolf Among Us is going to be released throughout
2014 as is The Walking Dead. And for anyone that's
just wondering, quick aside here, we will be
covering Wolf Among Us and The Walking Dead,
but probably not until they're all out. Oh, I'm
sure we'll talk. Talk about them, but not like...
Well, I've already covered, talked about Wolf
Among Us a little bit. Okay, but I won't be.
It's hard for you to play anything until the
entire things come out I I get it you're not
an episodic type of a game you need it You need
to blow it all in one load it where the rest
of us can be patient. Nope. I can't do that video
gaming now, I think I Know Dan are you weren't
completely blown away by this? The most impressive
thing that the newest thing that I saw out of
the VGX Awards and that kind of amazed me was
the No Man's Sky. I think the more and more I
look at it, the more and more I read about it,
the more and more interested I am. But ultimately,
if it's just going to be a Mac and PC title,
meh. I thought it was a console game. If it's
a console game, I'm totally behind it. I'm pretty
sure it's a console. I'm pretty sure it's coming
to the PS4 because it's made by the guys that
made Joe Danger. And that's a concept. If it's
$14 .99 or less, I will totally buy it the day
it comes out. For anyone that doesn't know, there's
not a whole lot known about this game, but everything
in it is procedurally generated. It's a persistent
online world. So what your actions have ramifications
for your friends. They haven't really delved
too much into how the multiplayer works. It's
being made by two guys? Four guys? Think it was
four guys four guys Basically, it's one of those
games where if you're on a planet and you see
a mountain you can go to the top of that mountain
And when you look up into the sky if you see
a moon You can go to the moon like you can get
into your ship and fly to the moon and walk around
on the moon And from there if you see like a
nebula or a star you can fly to that star If
you can see it, you can go there. Pretty much.
And the worlds are populated with creatures and
weather, and it's a game of exploration. They've
already said that. They said that there is combat
in it, but there wasn't any shown in the trailer,
which, Daner, I know you tuned out of the VGAs,
but I was kind of getting annoyed when the first
question out of both the host's mouths to the
developers were, what's the combat like? Yeah.
that was a stupid that was that just annoyed
me like why does everyone why do i have to shoot
something for it to be good like dude bro i mean
come on now if you can't shoot something in the
face how good can it be man yeah that's how it
could be gone home good yeah don't shoot anything
in that game so but yeah uh no man's sky was
probably the most interesting i saw and it looks
it looks pretty it's very colorful um the palette,
the textures were kind of muted. I'm not sure
if that's like the art style they were going
for or we were looking at like, you know, it
obviously was a beta build, but don't know if
that's an indication of the finished product.
I know there was a game that you were excited
for, Danner. Broken Age? Yeah, the new Telltale
game. Double fine. I'm sorry double another it's
gonna say no, it's another double double fine
Tim Schaefer game The only reason that this like
I don't get me wrong. It looked pretty it looked
awesome The only reason that I was more taken
aback by no man's sky than I was by broken ages
because I had seen those videos before I had
but I notoriously I don't like to really follow
games because I like to be More surprised when
the game comes out. Yeah The the big announcement
they had for the game was that It is They added
Elijah wood as the male voice character So that
was pretty much all they had to show for that.
They showed off dying light Which I tuned out
before that came out before which I think I'm
I went on and watched videos. I'm disappointed
I tuned up before the show that it looks okay
I've been following dying light since e3 when
that when it first hit like the radar and I'm
Interested in it because it has the the mirrors
edge thing going for it where it's all free running
and something like that. Although during the
VGX, when they did the interview with the developers
about the game, they were talking about there's
a freedom of movement that you've never had in
a video game before. And I texted Daner, I said,
apparently everyone's forgotten about Mirror's
Edge. Which they probably have. It's Mirror's
Edge with zombies. So basically you get to have
an axe or a hammer or something like that. Parkour
zombies. Yeah, I'm look I am looking forward
to that although it will probably scare the crap
out of me Then there was Titanfall stuff, which
I'm the only one that's excited for Titanfall
Don't get me wrong. It looks it looks really
cool. It looks like an interesting thing. It's
just meh Then we talked about Tom Clancy's division,
which was just a demo, but boy was it pretty
Man is it that game's gonna be so good. What
what really got me? Is I was you know one of
the things because Twitter around Twitter the
VGX was were was so bad I was watching the Twitter
comments just get people's feedback as to what
was happening and Arthur gaze from rebel of rebel
FM when the demo for the division stuff went
up He tweeted that what you're looking at right
now, and you're like shit compared to them He
said what you're looking at right now The game
looks three times better than this Because obviously
we're watching it on a stream and that's we've
talked before you know only so much but man does
the stream look good And I don't even know man.
Let's just i'm This is one of the things I wanted
to get into last on episode 38 But I was too
like stoned out of my mind from a decongestant
to actually Bring this up Uh, we aren't pc gamers.
Um We don't spend hundreds of dollars upgrading
our computers to get the best of the best So
like when we get excited about a game that's
like locked at 30 frames a second or we get 1080p
textures and they look amazing Yeah, you PC elitists
have probably had it for forever, but we haven't
and it's awesome And I'm just so excited for
what this what we're gonna get down the road
Like if this is what's happening in the first
in the opening months. Yes, what? Oh my god,
holy shitness is going to happen later. And we
said it on episode 38. This is third parties
doing this stuff with this hardware. I just wow.
And there's quantum break, which I care nothing
about. I don't know about you, Danner or Chauncey.
I I think I made the comment to you is what's
the remedy? Yep. I've never liked or enjoyed
any game they've ever made so quantum break to
me was just more of It's gonna be a game that
yeah, it's probably gonna sell a lot, but it's
not gonna be anything. I'm interested I've never
Apologize if I insult these series. I didn't
give a shit about Alan Wake and I played Two
Max Payne games now and I didn't like either
of them. I just was bored I just don't give a
crap about I don't give a crap about the stories.
I don't give a crap about the characters I find
their games completely uninspiring. I don't know
what it is about that developer or what I think
their issues but man I just There's something
about that company that I they just make they
seem to find a way to make gaming unenjoyable
for me Yeah, I gotta get going. Where can they
reach you if they wanna yell at you? You can't
I don't like you people is what it is You can
reach me on Twitter at at Sean D Brown and now
you know why I'm called that so crazy You can
find me on Xbox at weapon 87. I will be playing
that system for as long as I possibly can Yeah,
that's pretty much it Alright, man. Well, you'll
be back on the other side of the commercial break
for episode 40. So, okay All right, Dan, it's
just you and me Good. So I like it. All right,
we'll get we'll get this wrapped up here won't
go on too much longer They also showed off South
Park stick of truth Winning if that game comes
though ever any interest in the game though Not
really no, okay. I'm but it was first announced
years ago. Yes now. It's It's fucking Starcraft
goes to me now Dude, it's so much closer to being
released than the Starcraft ghost ever was You
can't even do that Lumber for a phrase that it's
Duke nukem forever to me now It's coming out
eventually, but it's gonna be really disappointing
when it gets here, okay thief I said this to
you in a text, but I think that for the first
year of the system of the next gen stuff, I see
myself buying things I normally wouldn't play
for two reasons. One, just to try something new
and to see what the system can actually do. And
two, because there's not a lot coming. So I'm
willing to give... Thief a try it looks cool.
So no thief looks good. And I mean, I really
enjoyed I've played some of the old thief games
on PC way back in the day But I Really enjoyed
Dishonored and it's the same. I mean same developer
same team same pretty much everything Different
publisher, I believe. Square Enix versus Bethesda?
Yeah. I really haven't looked at much about it,
but I love the Thief series on pure reputation
alone. I'm hoping they keep some of the game
mechanics from Dishonored, but I'm looking more
grounded in reality. type of gameplay For a thief
as opposed to dishonored with which had that
steampunk slash supernatural element to it so
I'm And I think it's also coming out in the perfect
time because there is nothing coming out So it's
in that nice space because it'll be coming out
in February. So I get Tomb Raider Enhanced in
January, we get Thief in... Aw, way to just throw
that one out there. February, and then we're
going to get Metal Gear 5 and Second Son in March.
Okay. Thank you for tipping that one. No problem.
One of my predictions from earlier in the year
has come to pass. I believe it was... earlier
this year right after the PlayStation 4 was announced
and the hardware specs and whatnot but before
Tomb Raider I somewhere in there I said that
Tomb Raider would get a next -gen release we
are getting that it is the Tomb Raider definitive
definitive edition it is coming to the PS4 and
the Xbox one it has all the DLC which I do not
care about The DLC was multiplayer, so right
exactly so do not care about it comes with all
the collectible stuff again I think it comes
with like a collectible hardcover if you get
it from Amazon, which I am Basically they've
souped everything up and it doesn't from what
I've been able to gather. It's not the same thing
as Like the ps2 HD remakes for the ps3 like It
sounds like they've gone and enhanced the PC
edition. All the textures and everything have
been upgraded. All the polygon counts for all
the models in the game have been increased. One
of the things about the PC version was that ATI
developed a graphics process called TressFX,
which can be applied to hair in video games.
renders each individual strand of hair as its
own, gets its own physics model. They've put
that in the game because all next -gen consoles
run on ATI, so they can do that really easily.
A couple of other physics things they've done,
all the gear on Lara's belt now has its own physics
model as well, so it moves independently when
you're moving around the environment. All in
1080p, they haven't said anything about the frame
rate. But if it's locked at 30, I'll be happy
if it's 60. I'll probably make myself sick I'm
excited for this For Tomb Raider for two reasons
one. I really did like Tomb Raider. I really
did as much as As much as I knocked it when Dan
and I were talking about earlier this year and
whatnot about the the little things about burning
rope to get to a Wooden box and you know a 90
pound girl being able to rip down concrete walls.
I Had a lot of fun with the game I still stand
by the fact that you turn into a murdering psychopath
like an hour into the game and that's fine Especially
like the new trailer they put out for the definitive
edition definitive edition. It looks more like
an uncharted game than it ever has before All
the like in that trailer all the oh, it's Laura
She's a co -ed and she's it's her first time
doing this of none of that stuff is in the new
trailer None of it. It is all her being a murdering
psychopath The second reason I'm excited for
this game is because it will be it will give
a baseline for what uncharted should look should
look like And yeah, so that's why I'm really
excited for it. So, um, Dan, you found something.
I saw your Twitter. Do you want to talk about
that? Did you read that article? I was just on
Twitter and most people were, you know, hoping,
praying that there was going to be announcement
of fallout for on. The VGX's which there wasn't
Nothing big gets announced at the VGX's nothing
big gets announced at the VGX's and it seems
to be like the brumblings of the internet and
most people is we're all kind of Waiting on a
fallout for announcement a Lot of people were
upset because that the website that popped up
online the survivor 2929 website was a fake if
it's a bunch of bored Swedish assholes, basically
getting all of our hopes up. But some documents
over at Bethesda have unofficially leaked. And
the article actually just came out from when
we're reporting within the last half hour. Documents
have been released that fallout is definitely
in development. And it's taking place in post
-apocalyptic Boston this time. See I will probably
end up buying this game even if I never play
it. Yeah To me when it comes to the fall like
this is the weird thing Elder Scrolls fall out
both Bethesda properties. I've never been able
to get into Elder Scrolls. I literally put 20
minutes into making a character in Morrowind
and I was like this is the most Boring uninspiring
interface I've ever seen in my entire life Picked
out fallout 3 when it first came out. I've put
140 to 160 hours into that game There's something
about fallout 3 that I just love love that game
New Vegas I put some time into it not as much
as I put in the fallout 3 Is that because of
the setting? I don't know if it has something
to do with the setting or the fact that I...
Fallout 3 came out at a time where I happened
to find myself in between jobs. And literally
the day Fallout 3 was released was the day I
lost my job. Really? Yeah! Was actually fired
on the day fallout 3 was released. That's why
it was really depressing to me that So when somebody
tweeted out that it was the fifth anniversary
of fallout 3 it made me a little sad because
That was the day that my employment with GameStop
ended Which started a really difficult month
and a half Period of time for me, which I've
got over it and I'm better now but I There's
some This fallout three has a special place in
my heart because it was there for me when game
staff wasn't. And I suck a massive amount of
time into that game and I just. I love I love
the atmosphere, I love the storytelling, I just
love everything about. The fallout universe.
We're elder scrolls. I just can't get into it.
I just can't buy into it. It just doesn't And
I think it's because isn't like every elder scrolls
game is like a new it's like a Final Fantasy
title the fact that it's like a new It's a new
story Actually, no, I believe all contained in
the same universe. It's all the same universe
In fact, there are a lot of people that are clamoring
for them to actually like Release a way to connect
all the like connect there like basically each
game is a new region Okay with the new story,
but the whole my understanding is each game is
a new region with a new story But if you were
to lay all the regions out on a map, they go
together Kind of like okay, so it's kind of what
they've done with fallout, right? Well, yeah,
cuz fallout takes place in the US. So if you
did, you know Vegas and you know Pennsylvania
and all that stuff No, I'm for me. I'm gonna
look at I'm looking at fallout. I'm looking at
whatever Bethesda does as kind of What I have
lack of a better way to say this kind of put
your money where your mouth is kind of thing
Yeah, because Bethesda is the one company that
cried foul at the Mount of Ram in the current
gen systems and the RAM architecture in the PS3
as the reason their games were complete garbage
on those systems. And now with the newer systems
having way more RAM and having a unified pool
of RAM... This is going to be one of those...
It seems like now... It's put up or shut up time
type of thing? Yes, it's put up or shut up. But
that's not saying that I think the games will
still have their bugs that Fallout's known for.
I just... It's like just make the game shut up
about it. Because it... The hardware... They
basically... These systems were... More or less,
these systems were designed around the... The
bitching that Bethesda did about the consoles.
Yeah The ps4 was pretty much designed with Bethesda
in mind almost. I mean I obviously that's not
Completely true. Yeah, it's not completely true,
but it's it very much. They were probably very
vocal especially about the unified Pool of RAM
and stuff like that and and they've been this
entire last generation. They've been championing
the more RAM more RAM more RAM and Yeah, they
Well, they got like eight times the amount of
RAM now. So yeah Yeah, it's put up or shut up
and I and I will probably buy it. I didn't buy
fallout 3 I bought New Vegas and I played like
an hour of it. I didn't hate it I just never
went back to it. I'm Really interested to see
what fallout 4 is gonna look like because yeah,
the fallout games have always looked pretty good
So really interested to see what that looks like
You have anything more you want to add in general
to the stuff that we've talked about or do you
want to? Wrap this up. I don't care with wrapping
it up because I need to get back to last of us,
so we're Should we make this like an actual two
episodes should I just say come back on the other
side of the commercial break for episode 40 I
Say come back on the next side for episode 40
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like chips not a big well, I was just eating
french fries That was french fries. Yeah, no
kidding. I'll fucking cook for those french fries.
Holy shit. Has anyone had the saddest fries?
Yes, they're pretty good which fries they're
called saddest fries. They're crinkle cut fries
from Burger King and they're like 30 % less fat
I have a feeling that they're 30 % less fat because
you get 30 % less fries. There's less of them
because there's like it's not a crinkle cut It's
like they took it's like they took a french fry
and you know how like when you're a kid You make
a Christmas tree just by going like you just
like cut into something and make a Christmas
tree That's how you make those things. That's
a crinkle cut. You just cut it. Whoa, they're
doing mask of the phantasm 20th anniversary screenings
Sure Did you see that Paul Rudd was Ant -Man?
What? Don't know how to feel about that. How
can you know how? Is Ant -Man supposed to be
a funny character? Yes, well, I'm not depending
on what Depending on which version of Ant -Man
they're going with I'm assuming they're going
with the thief version Well, I mean have you
seen the I mean there was a great one of the
greatest things I ever heard Joss Whedon say
was that Comedies or was it he hires comedians
to do his stuff because comedy is hard drama
is easy Yeah, yeah of comedy and drama comedy
supposed to be the easy one So All right Let's
do this because we have so much to talk about
oh Yeah, not really. Oh my Or make fun of Daner
for being an old man. All right. Hello Your dick
Alright. Now you can do your stupid introduction.
Hello and welcome to Off the Cuff episode 40.
I'm your host Michael Powers. Joining me this
week with a birthday of all things is Art Danner.
Hi. And we have Shauncey Brown. Hello. And I'd
just like to be the first to say happy birthday
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yeah, that's what I'm here for Sure on this episode
of off we're talking about math equations Okay,
so I noticed something interesting about my you
know, my my video game habits like, you know
how I I'm the one that I always go out and like
I'll buy a game and I'll just leave it in the
shrink wrap and not play it I You know, I have
the feeling that the Vita is turning into that
Same graveyard for me only the fact only the
problem is like it's digital content So it's
all hidden like I don't realize how so it's how
you're getting around your New Year's Resolution
to open all your games when you buy them probably
That's bullshit doesn't count the window at some
point in the year Yeah The next time. No, he
he was totally fine until the next game. I know
a game that I bought this year on a console that
I bought this year that I haven't finished. I
think is Nino Cooney. Well, Grand Theft Auto,
but I didn't buy that for the single player.
Oh, yeah. OK. Speaking of which, they released
a new thing today. A new mode. So moving on.
I. Yeah, the Vita has become like this. digital
content graveyard that I see games that seem
really interesting and I just buy them. And I
don't play them. Like, for instance, I bought,
what was it, Tearaway, which we've been talking
about a lot lately. GameStop put it up for sale
for 20 bucks for a physical copy. And I was like,
I don't really want a physical copy of a Vita
game, and I don't really want to buy something
from GameStop. So I passed on it. GameStop's
never unless they give you a. Yeah, just say
unless they give you a 32 gigabyte Vita card
for 40 bucks. That I jumped on, however. I still
think you probably could have done better. Now
that time you couldn't. The 32 gigabyte memory
cards like 80 bucks. Could have had a fancy drop
off your house All right, if I see if I ever
I mean that the odds of that ever happening if
I ever see a drone flying I'm getting my shotgun
shooting it down, and I just won prizes yes,
and I'm pretty sure you're under being arrested
for that Thanks to what? Yeah For what I was
being attacked by the aliens. I'm protecting
my horse that you're sir You're from New York
Act like it Okay I think we've already determined
the fact that there's a lot of New York and Sean's
is not from the cool part of New York. No, I'm
from the really very red necky, shitty, cold,
hilly part. He might as well be from Alabama.
That's how far away he is from the cool part
of New York. He's in the south. It's true, but
incest frowned upon. Okay, so anyways. The next
day after GameStop's thing, Amazon did the $20
for a physical copy as well for Tearaway, and
I was like, well, I like Amazon. And, you know,
I could just leave it permanently in my Vita.
So I went ahead and ordered a copy. And then
the next day, Amazon turned around and put up
a digital copy of the game for 20 bucks. So I
snagged that one. So I have my physical copy
of Tearaway actually sitting on the counter.
I'm trying to decide if I should return it, or
if I should give it away, maybe on the podcast.
Eh? How many people do you have that actually
have Vitas though? So write in, say why you should
win. And we're not going to send you a Vita.
I'm sorry, I know Danner said it was worth $250.
You got 250 off the cuff points. No offense,
but if any of our listeners have Vitas and they
haven't bought Tearaway already, I'm a little
bit disappointed. And they're dead to us. We
can make it up. I wouldn't go that far because
they certainly seem to rip on you in the forums
which I'm fine with. That's okay. If anyone does
have a Vita or they want to spend the $180. Or
they want to spend the $180. Doesn't know how
to read. There's no pictures. What bullshit is
that? If anyone does have a veto Another thing
about the people on the forums. Sorry. Go ahead.
Are we done? We're good. I promise I can't do
it anymore I'm never going to be able to finish
this Mom doesn't count. Nope. You're right. She
left after the night. Should I just move on?
Should I? Should I give up? I'm going to I'm
stopping now. I call ceasefire. Should I give
up on the idea of giving away a copy of Tearaway?
No, I think I really think if they can, you know,
like do like a why the best answer would be,
I have a Vita. That would be I mean. I'm pretty
sure they would win. OK, so if someone says I
have a Vita and they're like a regular person
who posts a lot and has a lot of forums just
post that I have a Vita. Yeah. And I don't own
Tara. First person to respond with no Tara. Yeah.
First person to respond in the comments section.
I have a Vita and I don't have Tara away. We'll
find a way to get contact information for you.
Yes, and we will get you a copy too. Yep, and
then we'll have But don't worry Mike's already
opened the shrink wrap on it and already rubbed
his penis all inside of it So it's a special
edition and he had lots of anyways back to the
digital graveyard. That is my Vita So I had that
copy of Tearaway on there and then just yesterday
when I was at work, I bought a copy of Euphoria
HD because it was on the Vita and it was on sale
for being a PlayStation Plus member for like
eight bucks. And I was like, maybe I'll check
that out. Okay. I mean, I have no desire to go
and play and I was like, why did I buy this again?
And then I just realized it's just a giant graveyard
of stuff that I don't really I Don't play like
I carry it around I charge it when I charge it
when it's dead And I turn it on to see if there's
something new that I should buy or Dan or tells
me that hey Maybe you should check this out and
I'll download it and then I'll just not play
it The downloader really quick that's gonna be
his review the install went super smooth time
was amazing I like the icon. Yeah, I think it's
really yeah, I don't I'm not down on the beat
I think it's a really nice piece of hardware
and I did play like 90 % of Arkham Blackgate
I'm at the I'm probably the same part of Blackgate
as I was with origins Which by the way, I have
finished Arkham origins So Sean Z. Have you played
it at all? Yeah, okay, Ark Morgan's no, I have
not um I want to Well, I'm waiting for it to
just be like on I It's not so crazy different
from the others that I'm willing to go out and
spend Anything more than like 30 bucks on it,
and I think it's right now I think it's 35 at
a few places. Yeah, you should go buy it now
because it's better than city It is better than
city. Oh, no, it's a little it's a lot more focused
than city was Like the the main narrative in
it is more compelling to like drive you it's
a lot easier to latch on to the main narrative
and and plow through the game then city was which
was just They hit you over the head with everything,
and you couldn't really tell what was supposed
to be part of the story and what wasn't. Yeah,
I heard that they, like, it's the distraction
of the Joker things, or not the Joker, but the
Riddler Trophies being fucking everywhere is
not as crazy. No. Right? It's not like you look
out and see, oh, there's 50 ,000 things I can
get right now. Well, they're still all over the
place, but my, my, my, the thing is, is like
the, one of the complaints I had about City that
I - that I keep having about City is that I didn't
do any of the Riddler stuff because Riddler wasn't
actually woven into the story like at all. He
was there. You just had to go. Well, right. No,
that's that's the thing. Like he was in City.
He was in the church and they had the. The radio
beacon was kept going off at the church and I
kept and the entire time I was playing the game
I'd hit the start menu and look at the map and
I'd see that beacon thing and I was like, oh
they'll make me go over there at some point or
I'll get close enough to it and it will start
a cutscene that will like You know bring the
bring whatever's over there into the main story
and it never happened So when I got done with
the game, I had not done any of the Riddler stuff
That's what I mean by it wasn't woven into the
story At least with Origins, the Riddler stuff
is woven into the story because of the mechanic
that they pretty much stole from Assassin's Creed.
Which is you have to take over these radio towers
and then that gives you like, it uncovers a block
of Gotham City and tells you where certain things
are in that vicinity. And when you do that you
engage with Riddler a little bit and you learn
more about what he's doing. so everything's kind
of like woven into this story and stuff like
happens organically as you as you stumble across
the city rather than um just all being crapped
out in front of you uh like city was and this
like the main like i said the main story is a
lot easier to pick up on and there's like the
side quests that really don't have anything to
do with the main story um as far as i could tell
they're just they're just batman being batman
I do like how there's all of the Memes and stuff
are popping up. It's like I'm Batman. I don't
kill I just beat up and not and leave criminals
unconscious in the snow to freeze. Yeah, pretty
much I So it's good. It's good to know. He's
still wholesome and fame You know has those family
that that man's ever had family values being
that he's never had much of a family He's never
had a family It's funny because they're dead.
I did get into, I don't know, it wasn't so much
a... I got into a discussion about my opinion
on the voice of the Arkham Batman. And my opinion
is that I've never felt like Kevin Conroy fit
The Arkham Batman. Even from. Like the style
of the Batman. He doesn't. I don't think he fits
like an armored Batman, like a Batman that wears
a suit of armor rather than spandex. So what?
So you're saying when you hear him, you see Batman.
Not necessarily, because I've seen Conroy in
other he's they've used his voice as Batman in
other depictions. I just don't think he fit the.
um the asylum aesthetic uh and it's one of the
issues that i've had from from even from the
get -go and i and basically the point i was trying
to make is that i really enjoyed the guy that
they got to play batman in origins um i felt
like he brought a good mix of like Christian
Bale's Batman and Conroy's Batman I felt like
he I was having a discussion with one of my friends
who's like a big Batman fan yesterday and I and
I came to the conclusion that the new guy displayed
a range of He gave a range to Batman whereas
Conroy's Batman was like stoic to a fault I This
is kind of like an over exaggeration of of it,
but I feel like maybe it in a way, Conroy was
kind of phoning in, playing the voice of Batman
in the first two Arkham games, whereas, you know,
they had Mark Hamill come back as the Joker,
and I thought Mark Hamill took it to the next
level. Like, he filled those shoes as like the
psychotic Joker. Whereas Conroy was just, you
know... I don't know. I never felt like a fit
and I feel like the new guy just I feel like
the new guy like nailed it and ran and ran with
it. Now, is it just because Conor like Conor
is Batman is iconic, but it doesn't bring any
new life to the character. Yeah, pretty much.
The new guy, the new guy, like again, like I
kind of said, he was like Stoke. Conroy's Batman
is stoic to a fault. And that goes kind of back
to what we were talking about in a way on the
on episode 39, where we were talking about there
is no bigger fish than Batman. Like Batman is
just. You know. It's like he's out there, it's
like there's nothing out here that's worse than
me. I am. I feel like Conroy's Batman in Conroy's
Batman in City, like that's. Like he knew that
that's the Batman that he was. So I guess he
knew that that's the Batman that he was. But
for me, that kind of made that character like
slightly unrelatable, where in Origins, obviously
it's a younger Batman, a more unrefined Batman.
And so he gets angry, but he also has that calm
collected, the calm and collected moments about
him, like when you're doing the detective stuff.
And I just like I said, there's a there's a range
that the new guy brings to the table that Conroy
just didn't bring and even like Hamill with his
joker he brought a range to that it wasn't just
like this it wasn't just like it wasn't always
the maniac joker there was like a or even like
funny it wasn't like one or the other it was
like this this um like a sliding scale of the
joker wasn't like this joker or that joker it
was like all the jokers um And I just felt like
there wasn't, you know, I felt like Conroy didn't
bring that and the voice just didn't fit the
style to me. Like it didn't look like Conroy,
like Conroy's voice just didn't fit the look
of that Batman. And of course the guy on the
comment thread for Ultra Geek, he and I kind
of went back and forth and he said that the reason
that I couldn't see Conroy as the new Batman
is because I saw Like Batman the animated series
is a child's cartoon It's like the cute kids
version of Batman's voice. No Well, I had to
I and I had to tell I said no, I don't see I
didn't see Batman the animated series. It's like
a kit like quote -unquote kids Cartoon series
because the tone is pretty the tone is pretty
dark and the character some of the characters
designs are pretty risque And I say that because
I used to have this um, I wish I knew where it
was actually at this moment, but I had like a
the art behind Batman the animated series and
They had this one they showed this drawing that
they had up in the animation studios of Like
what you can't do in Batman the animated series
and it was like a it was like Catwoman was the
character in the picture but then there were
like all these like there were like drug needles
and drug paraphernalia and this that and the
other thing and the Catwoman they had was like
the the color scheme was like the reverse color
scheme for the character um like what she looks
like in her suit because if you if you drew her
one way and you had and you and you put her in
the wrong color palette she looked naked It just
looked like she was in a colored light. Yeah.
And so they were like, you can't, you know, you
can't do this stuff. And that's, that's what
I mean. Some of those characters, they were like,
so they're like borderline, like, especially
like the female characters, they're like borderline
sexual. And not that that's a bad thing or anything
like that, but he, you know, I made that argument
and he came back with me saying that if I saw
Batman the animated series that way then why
did I think that Kevin Conroy didn't fit the
voice of the Arkham City aesthetic which or the
Arkham games aesthetic which is dark and you
know risk a and He said because he did nothing
to change it to elevate it and it was elevated
To me. I mean the Arkham games felt like a more
elevated Elevated risk factor. Yes compared to
what we ever got in the animated series. The
risks were higher. Yes, absolutely. That's what
I came back with is that I don't see them...
Comparing the animated series to the Arkham games,
all of a sudden the animated series does look
like a cartoon. It's one of those things that
you can't compare the two. I mean, the only reason
that it's even really compared is because of
the fact that it's Conroy. It's Hamill and Dini
wrote the story for both Asylum and City and
I and as I made the argument on there is the
fact that Conroy and Hamill would never have
been involved if it wasn't even was wasn't for
Dini even being on the ground floor of that game
Yeah, I think the moment they got Dini involved
that brought all the these people from the animated
series into the fold as the only reason they
were even there is because of Paul Dini and it
was there and Paul Dini was there to help, you
know, elevate the game to bring it to a bigger
grouping of people and to help, you know, elevate
the sales and boost the sales because that added
a holy crap they're serious about this. They
really want to do something with this game. Yeah,
that's and that's the argument because that we
went the argument kind of the kind of going down
that path because I said that Casting Conroy
and Hamill and the voices from the animated series
was pretty much fan service And the guy said
he did see it as such and I said well, you know,
I don't know My opinion of it is people have
been burned so many times by Batman games Feel
like they it's you know they got Dini on board
and then they got the you know Conroy and Hamill
and the rest of the voice actors fell in line
I feel like that brought the game that put the
game in the sights of more people than it would
have been Yeah, now do you think that they did
that just so it's like hey look we're taking
this one seriously guys yeah, I mean it's it's
one of those things, but I think it was also
I And the argument I made was I think that they
could have used different voice actors and you
would have had the exact you would have had the
same game. Except I think it would have been
like a sleeper hit like there wouldn't have been
as many eyes on it until after launch. Right.
Exactly. Like it would it would have been you
know, it would have been like you would have
instead of going into it going, oh, man, these
voice actors are in it. Oh, this is going to
be so great. Then finding out that the mechanics
were really really still good. You would have
gone in going Oh, it's just another crappy Batman
game, and then you would have heard people talking
about how they got it, right? You know what I'm
saying? It's kind of like the uphill battle that
Batman Begins faced after the Schumacher Batman
movies Oh God, we need another nipple II Batman
suit. Yeah like Like the first batman begins
didn't do that well because it had that uphill
climb from the previous batman movies I didn't
I don't think it did that. Well Opening it was
I think that was one of those ones where it didn't
have this huge amazing release But then you know,
like four or five six seven weeks in it's still
pulling in tons of money Yeah, but i'm not it
just wasn't all opening weekend. Yeah, but that's
what i'm saying is There's a difference between
Batman. There's a big difference in the box office
between Batman begins and the Dark Knight. It's
one of those things where people by the time
the Dark Knight came around, even though Ledger
offed himself and that probably helped with that
box office. It. It. People had an idea of what
they were going to get out of the Dark Knight
because, you know, Batman begins had that slow
burn. I have a feeling that Asylum would have
ended up being that same thing if they had gone
down a different route for the voice actors.
It just would have had a slow burn because the
mechanics in that game are actually pretty solid.
Now, it could have backfired and they could have
had really, really bad voice actors. you know
that we won't know because that didn't happen
and I and we've we've said it here on the podcast
before at least I have and I think you know some
of us shared these concerns is that we were or
at least I was very worried about Origins even
though I wasn't a fan of City I was really worried
about Origins when the game got shifted over
to Warner Brothers Montreal and then got worried
again when Paldini wasn't part of it and Conroy
and Hamill weren't a part of it. Like it was
when we were like, oh, red flags all over the
place. But I think they did. Despite all the
stuff going against them, I think because what
they had at that point in time is they had an
established series. And now our most of our foots
were in the door because of the other two games.
And a lot of the people that don't follow it
as closely just go, hey, look, another Batman
game and these other ones were great. They're
in the door. We're leery going in, but we enjoyed
the other games enough to buy. And be surprised.
And then be surprised because the story was good.
Like, I don't even know if it was. I don't even
know if it's so much my. My expectations were
so low, I don't really think that has anything
to do with it. I also think it was. To me, which
people may not agree and I know I've already
said this, I thought it was really interesting
that the way they marketed it and the way they
sold the game and the storyline they provided
to us, everything goes out the window two hours
into that game. Everything that they advertise,
everything that they sold us on in that game
is just literally the tip of the iceberg. And
the rest of it after two hours in has absolutely
nothing to do with. What they advertise the game
to be which I think was yeah, essentially the
game and I could be completely wrong with with
the way I mean I I what you said is true and
I do agree with that and for me it felt like
I kind of was worried about the game going in
that I was gonna be more like city and After
you know, you start playing it and you get past
that twist the game actually becomes more like
Arkham Asylum, which is more to do Like well,
you shouldn't say with more to do an open environment
asylum. And like I've said, it's way more focused.
It is a way more focused game than City was.
City had that issue where there was so much crap
popping up everywhere around the map that everything
felt kind of rushed and like you had to go do
this other stuff, but you didn't have to do all
this other stuff. And it was once you got it
in your head of I should just do the main storyline.
And then after the main storyline is done, I
can go back and do everything else. But it was
just so ADHD. It was just so scatterbrained and
all over the place. And it was like they had
all these ideas they wanted to do, but they didn't
know how to get them to mesh together. So they
just threw all the ideas out there. And it was
very distracting and it was hard to get into
because of everything being so distracting and
it's one of those literally if the second time
I played it through it literally just ran through
the storyline and Then I did the secondary stuff
and I go god this flows a lot better when you
don't Deal with all those outside distractions
So and where it doesn't feel like outside distractions
in origins because you're like, well, this assassin's
over here doing this one thing, but you can go
deal with this, but there's this other thing
that you can deal with, but there's, you know,
no rush, I guess. Like it all fits into the storyline,
but it doesn't feel like a high pressure situation.
It's there, but it's not confusing. Like I said,
it makes it very apparent what is the story and
what is not. Yeah, and it's in you know, it's
Nothing was really tied together in city. It's
just happened to be This is a giant prison and
we're all trapped in here together This person
is doing this thing. This person is doing that
thing and this and the other thing We're in this
one. This is a city. These are all the assassins
They're all doing their own things around town
and you can go and intercept and take out all
the assassins Or you could do your story and
it's my question now Yeah, um If you don't see
because I know the whole the first premise of
the game is that these assassins are all to get
you right? They're all paid by black mask Black
mask come get you if you and but they're you
said you're saying they're in different parts
of the cities, right? If you don't go there say
you're just dick around and stuff. Will they
eventually come? Well, no, okay, cuz that'd be
cool that sense of yes and no Some of the assassins
are in the story They're just, they're, they're,
they're in your, they are directly in your way.
Other assassins are around the city that you,
when, as you, as you feel the need to go exploring,
you will stumble across them and you'll trigger
a cut scene that will then open up a case file
for that assassin. And they'll give you side
quests that when you finish those side quests,
they will, you will confront that assassin and
take them down. That's how it's a little more
organic. They're just going through the game
and exploring. They don't trigger until you stumble
across them in a certain area. However, like
I said, some of the assassins are directly linked
to the story, like Copperhead, like Firefly.
They are directly linked to things that happen
in the story. But yeah, it's a pretty... Had
a lot of fun with it. I will probably end up
playing some more more with it because unlike
city I actually kind of have that Assassin's
Creed 2 itch where it's Just challenging enough
to go back through and do some of the Riddler
stuff and things like that That it's fun. It's
just challenging enough to be fun Although it's
really annoying because now that I'm in the end
game it seems like every building has a sniper
on top of it. That's what was super awesome about
City also. And now like at any at any one point
you can have four laser sights on you. Which
is freaking annoying. So all right I have one
last question to posture about the the future
of the Arkham franchise. I posted on AlterGeek
Unlimited, but I'd like to get your guys' input
on it as well. And then we can move on to whatever
you guys want to talk about. Sorry, I thought
I'd go first this week. Now, Warner Brothers
Montreal has kind of taken over. They've shown
that they've got the chops to make an Arkham
Gate. To do one. Okay. Rocksteady may or may
not be working on an Arkham 3, we'll just say.
If Origins is zero, we'll just put it that way.
I am kind of expecting to see an Arkham game
this fall by Rocksteady. I don't think it's gonna
be Arkham. Well, I think it will be some kind
of continuation in that universe. I think it'll
be... You think it will be a quote -unquote DC
Batman game? No, I think it'll be a Justice League
game by Rocksteady this fall. But I think it
will be the Batman from Arkham. That's what I
mean. And then next year, I think we'll get,
I think in 2015, We'll get another like Arkham
Origins 2 from Warner Brothers Montreal now Obviously
what I'm hinting at is here is I think Warner
Brothers may have found a way to annualize the
Arkham franchise the way that Activision has
annualized Call of Duty and Ubisoft has annualized
Assassin's Creed What do you guys think On the
thought of them and yeah, I mean I was gonna
say I'm not opposed to it as long as they can
keep the stories interesting and keep the quality
high much like Assassin's Creed I'd know it's
not gonna be perfect all the time like AC3 it
was yeah there you're allowed to have all playable,
but yeah, it can't get like diminishing results
with every Thing and I mean how fast can that
game get burned out? How many times are you gonna
sucker punch Joker in the face before it becomes
not fun anymore? Still saying I want a damn hot
thing somebody somebody on Twitter said that
There there was a tease for what the next Ubisoft
month or Warner Brothers Montreal game could
be So what they tease What's his group? Yes that
Suicide Squad game. Yeah Yeah, and from from
my understanding the um, what's the name of the
Vita game black gate black gate black gate from
my understanding that teases Suicide Squad also
from what I've heard I'll have to finish it.
But then again, I'm not familiar with Suicide
Squad So if it is being teased in there, I don't
know I'm not wait, you don't you don't know what
Suicide Squad is? I'm not a DC guy Okay, educate
us or me Okay Say all there's these random super
villains, right? They all have their specific
skills think thunderbolts. Yes, you put it into
Marvel's So the government comes in and goes
listen you guys want to earn your freedom You're
gonna run like basically black ops missions for
us. Think this is the weapon X program Minus
Wolverine and all them Yeah, every single one
of these missions are no -win scenarios. They
don't really care if they're no -win scenarios.
Yeah, because you're using criminals. Who cares
if they die? Okay. That's why they're the suicide
squad. Oh, man, I swear to God, if they put ragman
in there. Oh, like, do you remember? I don't
know if you remember this. I want to say it was
in Justice League Unlimited. Do you remember
the episode about Task Force X? Yes. That's the
suicide squad. They just didn't want to call
it the Suicide Squad on a cartoon. They couldn't
call it Suicide Squad. They couldn't say Suicide
Squad. They called it Task Force X. So it's yeah,
that's exactly what Suicide Squad is. So after
we've seen Warner Brother Montreal's chops and
we know Rock City's chops, then we're okay with
this. I'm fine with it. Do you see what I'm kind
of... Do you agree with my prediction? Yes, I
know what you're trying to say. I know what you're
trying to say. I'd be more impressed. I want
to see them take a risk. This is what I want
to see happen They made a good Batman game Make
a good Superman game see I've been trying to
I've been toying with that since the idea of
like the Justice League game like they they were
gonna do a Justice League game because they're
gonna have to figure out a way to do Superman
and The only good way I've seen Superman done
But what if they did like What if there was something
that... I know that the Arkham games haven't
been this way, and I'm trying to figure out a
way to make a Justice League game based around
an Arkham game, but again, you have to be able
to switch between characters. What if, like,
Batman or Superman was just, like, in these off,
like, in these, like, super powers, like, his
level was just, like, balls to the wall, like,
super power, like, he... It wasn't... You know,
it was just him being. You know, Superman, so
the parts you play as Superman, the the the challenge
isn't in staying alive, the challenge is, you
know, doing something, beating the clock, saving
people, not trying to stay alive because what
if it's more like that, like they just put a
twist on it that way or like I just I've been
I've been pondering that since they made that
announcement, you know, that's been like a year,
a year or so since they kind of that. stuff kind
of slipped under the rug and I've just been trying
to figure out how they can do the Superman thing
and I mean I don't know obviously you can handle
it if you just put it in a cutscene but I feel
like people would want to be able to play as
Superman but then again it could be a Justice
League game from the point of view of Batman
so You know, it's like you maybe maybe you play
as Batman So he's like the indestructible NPC
that comes in Maybe the entire game just takes
place from Batman's perspective and the other
superheroes cross his path or something Yeah,
the only way I see them ever putting Superman
again with it is Making it be his emergence as
a superhero. So he's doesn't know he doesn't
even know his full strength yet So you talk that's
how you limit. This is like Man of Steel Yeah,
exactly. Like he doesn't know how strong he is,
you know, it's he hasn't he's still not acclimated
You know, you want to see you want you want Superman
in a game where he's not Superman? He's Clark
Kent like but not like I mean Like he has he's
you want to see him before he's Superman. Yeah
kind of that's the only way I can see is like
you seeing him like Within, you know, like Superman
year one or whatever you want to call it. He
doesn't know Even what he's capable of yet I
think that would turn off a lot of people because
or draw them up against people that actually
serve as a threat to him. Yeah, I think that's
what I'm saying. It's Zod and his forces in the
video game where the threats actually really
could cause damage to them. Put them up against
doomsday. But in those things, it would have
to be just a Superman game because in a Justice
League game, what if I wanted to, you know, say
how, you know, Mike was talking how you can switch
between characters. Well, I don't want to play
as you make silent playing as Batman. Oh, I'm
facing doomsday. I have to play Superman. No,
they're forcing you to play. Yeah, that man could
take down doomsday bullshit. Doomsday for after
he rips his spine out. Darkseid. Well, Batman
has taken out. He hasn't taken out Darkseid.
He's dodged the Omega Beams. Oh, boy. There's
a victory. That is a victory. What are you talking
about? I'm pretty sure in some of the comic books.
Isn't that what fries Batman and like leads to
the death of Batman? Getting fried by the Omega
Beams? Eh, DC comics are retarded. I just go
off of the DC AU. See, he could totally beat
him, except for that one time when he was roasted
alive. Okay, the DC continuity to me is effed
up. I go off of the DC Animated Universe. Oh
wow. Bring it, people. I'm not even a DC fan
and that hurt me. Wow. Oh, that's hysterical.
It's like, I'm sorry, there wasn't some, like,
thematic music over it, so it doesn't count.
But I can't be mad because I've spent most of
my day reading X -Men comic books, so if there's
a convoluted universe, I know about it. So yeah,
that's, you know, Arkham Origins, great. I'm
pretty sure we probably won't talk about it again,
unless Sean Z picks it up and wants to talk about
it. It's probably gonna be a while. That's gonna
be one of those ones that... So, you covering
it in two different podcasts in one week is good?
We're good now? With Arkham, we can bury the
hatchet. I wanted to talk about it with you guys.
I know you did, but man, just spreading it out
across multiple podcasts. Maybe some of our listeners
already heard it once, they don't need to hear
it again. Fine. Go ahead. What do you got? I
have nothing. I really haven't played anything
new. I guess the one thing I can talk about is
how excited I am about my new class in ghosts.
Oh yeah. So I did probably one of the worst possible
things that you could do when you have a light
machine gun is I turned it into a speed class.
So one of the biggest guns in the game is called
the chainsaw. When you pull it up to like look
in the site alls you literally do is kind of
pick it up a little bit more It's literally walking
around with a giant mounted turret like that
has no sights on it So accuracy based weapons
what you're saying, oh god no um So it's it's
a big clunky gun so of course What do I do? I
put muzzle on it, which increases the distance
of my shots. And then I put this. Yeah. And then
I put full metal jacket on it. So when I'm missing
everything, I'm shooting through every single
wall in the entire map. And then I miss you,
but the innocent bystander three miles away.
And then I put sit rep on it so I could see all
the bad things in level. And then I tossed on.
Slight of hand so I can reload super fast and
then I put light weight. How big is the clip
or the belt I'm assuming for this right? Big
enough. I need more. But big enough if you have
to reload it takes a good 30 seconds to reload
the weapon. With slight of hand it takes less
than five seconds to reload. And then I put light
weight on so I move real fast and then I put
marathon on. So I'm running, running, running,
running, running around the level. And then I'm
just unloading the weapon. Every corner I come
across and just ripping people off of their feet
as I'm going around corners. Now don't get me
wrong. It's not the most accurate weapon. It's
I'm fine with it. It's also, um, I died a lot.
That's fine. But I was the most obnoxious and
annoying person on the entire match. So you could
just imagine the other people fucking do with
the chainsaw again. Like I'm walking down the
middle of the map, literally just unloading the
weapon into buildings, not even knowing if people
are there getting random kills because people
are running past the building. Just pissing people
off left and right. Like we lost the match. But
I was such a disturbance in the match that it
was well worth everything I put into it. And
then on top of that, I haven't tested it out,
but I finally put a secondary on there to make
it more annoying. And I put rocket launchers
with it. So I'm guaranteed to piss everybody
off when I'm using that class, which will be
the main. I will probably use it only on domination.
Can you just utterly rip apart like air support
with that gun? Yes. One clip takes down a helicopter
easily with the gun. I haven't even used the
rocket launchers. So yeah, I'm looking forward
to really, really pissing people off. That is
my main goal is to use that class to pretty much
shit on everybody's parade. So, yeah, seems like
a you thing to do. It is, it is a me thing to
do. I'm looking forward to the next time me and
Powers play. It'll be fun. It reminds me, the
class you made actually reminds me of playing
with Jason when Modern Warfare first came out.
He would use, what was it, the RPD? Oh, I love
the RPD. Looks like a big, huge -looking AK with
a drum. Yeah, he would use the RPD and go and
spray sniper nests. Like just shooting through
the walls and everything to kill things I used
the RPD with a Grip and double tap so fired twice
as fast Eventually, I'm pretty sure I will make
class Called balls to the wall when my accuracy
drops below 50 % John has the lowest out of all
of us with like 2 % And I'm pretty sure I got
2 % now with that weapon the the nice thing though
that I've also thought about doing is well one
of the things You know, we play ghosts a lot
But one of the reasons I don't live stream ghost
as much as I live stream other things is everybody
live stream not no Well, I probably could get
more I'd probably get more watchers if we were
live streaming Ghosts. The only problem is, I
would be a very boring person to watch play Ghosts.
Oh look, there's a bush. Maybe I should be the
one who's streaming it. You probably should.
So that's why I don't live stream Ghosts, but
one of the nice things about the PlayStation
Network is they don't charge you for individual
gamer tags. I've thought about making a another
tag And just going out and making a balls to
the wall class Running around like a or I could
just sign it with Ali's tag Doesn't care she's
never gonna play she played with us played my
offer to yeah, that's one time I still remember
that. And she's like, and I'm done. I think she
even said something like, Mike, why aren't you
moving? Oh, that's the one thing I did want to
say. I got to play Call of Duty Ghosts on a PS3
this week and it was terrible. The graphics.
The current gens are just dog shitty. Graphics
are fucking terrible. Like they're so bad. I
was I got to the point where I played two matches
and I looked at the guys I was playing with and
I go I can't play this this have you I'm sorry.
It just looks terrible I'm like I don't want
to see I I never thought I would get to the point
where I was just like I'm sorry The graphics
aren't good enough for me to play this game anymore.
I had to ask have you ever felt more snot nose
in your life? Just imagine you know I have not
because I just I looked at Andy it was like Silly
like I don't sound like a dick, but I can't play
this because it graphically is inferior for some
reason I just are you like pinching the controller
between your thumb and index finger like No I
go I can't figure out the controls because it's
The triggers are reversed on the PS3 version
because that's how, you know, it is on the PS3.
Your firing is your R1 and your grenade or your
aim is your L1 and it's reversed. It's wrong.
And it feels and I was like, I can't. Number
one, this looks like crap. I can't play it. And
number two, I can't play it because it's going
to screw up my game on PS4 because I don't want
to get used to these controls. And yes, I felt
like it. elitist asshole when I was over there
and I was like, can we play Grand Theft Auto
5 now? I wish I could have seen that. For some
reason, I reminded myself of you in that situation.
I don't know if I should take offense to that
or not. Well, it's only because I think you're
elitist douchebag in the nicest way. I'm not
going to take offense to that because I have
a lot of nice shit. You do so But yeah, I wow
I wish I could have been there for that because
that would have been hilarious Speaking of Grand
Theft Auto I Pulled the trigger on capture hardware
for video gums But it gums did you really are
you just saying it like a guy goes now gums video
gums I know that I picked it up from somewhere,
but I've been saying since like the PlayStation
came out. I don't know. Is that a Rebel FM thing?
I think so. Probably. I listen to that podcast
a lot. Me too. It's a good podcast. It is. They're
doing their Music Spectacular right now, which
I wish I had the I wish I had the know how to
do that. To do. I'm sorry. I toned out what we're
talking about. Every year, Rebel FM does a music
podcast. It's about the music in video game.
Yeah, and they they splice in the music from
the actual games So like say they're talking
about the halos that very orcish, you know Whatever
that word is orchestra. I've been drinking Okay,
let's make this more relevant with something
that matters. Let's say we were talking about
gone home We would play like some of the music
from gone home Okay And it ends up actually being
really cool. And they do it just for that year
in video games. So they're recording that one
tonight or tomorrow or something like that. But
I wish I had the... Maybe we should try and do
something like that next year or something like
that. Just kind of keep track of some of the
games that had the music that we actually liked.
Anyways, yeah, I picked up the Elgato Game Capture
HD. So, yeah, that's what Ali keeps saying to
the cat. But it isn't like, is Elgato for it
to be the cat? That's E -L space G -A -T -O,
right? I don't know Spanish. I didn't even know
Elgato. It is E -L -G -A -T -O. All is one word
or with a space? With a space so that's the cat.
It's a duck hat, but this device is just el gato
like there is no space So I don't even know if
it's well, then it's I Don't know anyways, it's
ELG ATO no space I Pulled the trigger on it last
Thursday. I did one day shipping. I got it for
Friday. I actually um streamed the final like
Probably our I had of Arkham Origins And then
Sunday night Joe and I streamed some of our Grand
Theft Auto online shenanigans It's a pretty neat
little device I will say Right now it's a little
a little tricky to use because the You have to
use a special cable with the PlayStation 3 Because
they don't allow recording over HDMI Like it
won't handshake with the device, so you have
to use the old AV port. Well, at least that makes
no sense. Well, the reason being is because you
could also play Blu -ray movies on it, and they
didn't want people to be able to record Blu -ray
movies. If I were to plug it into the 360, the
360's HDMI port is unencrypted. So I can get
my video games off of there just as they are
through an HDMI port. Luckily there really isn't
when you're streaming everything. It doesn't
really look that much different on my TV It's
a little bit fuzzier just because it's not it's
like it's not an HDMI connection Okay, so it's
just Not as high lip resolution. No, it's still
like 1080. It's still 1080p, but it's not Like
1080p with an HDMI cable. It's kind of hard to
explain unless you're like looking right at it
But on a stream it doesn't you can't you can't
even tell on a stream So that that was pretty
nice. I've heard the one guy that we've been
able to get to watch both streams Which is TFG1
Mike from Geocast radio. He said there was some
one dude there was some Issues and I'm not sure
if that was from my end or if it was from his
because When I stream I have my twitch window
open on my computer so I can actually see the
stream like as well I can see how much like lag
there is and just watch the chat conversation
Which for the record there is none There was
that one time you played FTL Yeah, I've had I've
had some success like there was I've had some
success with Need for Speed Rivals FTL War Thunder
was a pretty good one Anyways, I don't know if
it was like if it's his computer is internet
connection But there were like some buffering
issues which I don't think are present with the
stream when I stream from the PlayStation 4 but
regardless Taking requests if anyone wants to
see Something I'm probably gonna go try and go
back to like my backlog. I was thinking maybe
playing I go or set of the classes on a stream
So yeah, no, it's just cuz you can I'm trying
to think of what good Yes, well I can also do
like some 360 games like I said, I just can't
do any you know dead space Oh God Only like what
okay when you're streaming can they hear you
cuz I they have to be able to hear you That would
be that would make it interesting just watching
someone play dead space not so good watching
someone play dead space and hearing them shit
their pants hysterical War Thunder is coming
to the ps4. I'm watching the Twitter feed while
we're doing this so I can see everything War
Thunder is us. Yeah War Thunder is already out
on the PS4 in Europe, so it's only a matter of
time before it hits here. I know, it's only...
No, but the capture device is really neat because
it also allows me to actually capture game footage,
and apparently there's a way to capture standard
definition game footage, so if I ever come out
to Grand Rapids again and we're in Joe's basement,
we can actually capture video game footage. Like
with a pass through. The device is actually the
device is really tiny. It's about the size of
my About the size of my phone So it's it's really
it's really portable and it's really easy to
hook up like I had it ready to go in like Two
minutes after I took it out of the box. I was
kind of impressed It's surprising how long you
know, everything you take without it takes about
two minutes to get ready. I'm saying There's
a lot of prep work that goes into it before I
open the box Then 30 seconds later he is spent
so but yeah, no we can I'm there's also a way
obviously I can record my gameplay now which
I haven't done any of that yet to try editing
video footage, but There may be YouTube videos
if they're not taken down As all video game footage
is being taken off YouTube at the moment Just
cuz it can be they started some new content thing
Where it's automatically what is it if you don't
have rights to the yeah, it's automatically getting
flagged But a lot of like game publishers and
stuff are coming forward and saying they have
nothing to do with it If we're having if you're
having problems with it, give us a give us a
holler and we'll fix it Because like game developers
and publishers realize the benefit of YouTube.
Yeah. Yeah, you show your game I watch it say
that looks cool. I should go get that game to
Free it's your it's free advertisement. You're
getting stuff in the internet. You have to pay
for All right, Sean Z. What do you got? Ah, nothing
really for your Assassin's Creed for update this
week. Um. I'm getting to the point where I'm
just about ready to start taking on legendary
ships. I thought you said you were getting to
the point where you're just about done with the
game. No, no, no, no, no, no. I keep I'm progressing
through the actual story very slowly. Only enough
when it's like to tip. Still I still haven't
gotten their open art. I've you know, I've put
some few more hours into I'm still Haven't gotten
all of the unlocks for your base characters.
So, I mean there's I'm I don't even know how
much of the game is left I've met like 45 % but
I'm playing the shit of that game now Do you
have plans to pick up the freedom cry DLC that
came out this week? Um, I you know what? I'm
so skittish Because have I was I didn't think
I didn't play this but AC3 is the whatever it
was the George Washington. The tyranny of King.
Yes, George George. How shitty that was. Well,
I the reports for Freedom Cry are really good.
I don't I probably won't play it. If I do get
it, I'll wait till after at this. I read some
stuff today and it actually continues the storyline.
Yeah. And this at a while becomes an assassin
and gets his own ship and. You get to basically
go around freeing slaves from all the plantations
And it sounds like you do now it's yeah instead
of yeah And it sounds really cool because if
you get detected when you're on the plantations,
they start executing all the slaves If they see
you so you have to be incredibly sneaky and you
need to you're building an army So the more people
you save the bigger your army becomes So I thought
that was it sounds really interesting there the
reviews have been Said it was probably one of
it's one of those DLCs where it's worth buying
Yeah, but I didn't know if that was the only
single -player DLC that's coming out Everything
else is just multiplayer because if that's the
case I don't I probably wouldn't buy the season
pass and I would just spend the ten bucks on
that because I could give I Could care less about
the multiplayer and assassins Well, at this point,
I think Sean's you should just save his money
for a PS4. That will happen eventually, but.
Do you think you're going to get liberation when
it comes to Xbox Live? I don't know. You know
what? It hasn't. Oh, my God, piqued my interest
enough. I don't think. No, it's like I might
get it. It might be one of those ones where it's
like I'm sitting there just looking at it like,
eh, I'll try it. Or I might just look at it and
be like, OK, that's there. I don't know. I have
no plans to buy it. OK. There's still so many
things I want to get on current gen. I still
want to play XCOM, Enemy Within. Oh, yeah, that's
a thing. It's a thing that you don't care about.
It's did you ever you didn't play XCOM. Did you
last one? No, I snagged it off of PlayStation
Plus, but you should try playing it. It's. That's
a good screw around game. You need to be super
awake to play that game because, oh, my God,
if you're the slightest bit tired, you'll be
asleep with it. Oh, you can. Maybe I should stream
it. Just make sure you name your guys funny shit.
Think of it like, like. What was that? What was
that game you were talking about? Was that um
FTL where you can name people? Yeah, it's like
that. I would name them you guys and then I would
feel bad when you die and Then I would try no
what I would do is I would just would next guy
recruited I would just make him look just like
you would name him the same thing like hey he's
back He lost all this stuff. Oh, he went retarded
after his last incident Probably getting shot
in the face by an alien makes you lose the brain
cells Did when you get the the the half ass clones
back? Do you just call them bitch versions of
a bitch? Mike but yeah, but how do you differentiate
bitch Mike from regular Mike well They come back
slightly damaged and retarded. I just figured
yeah, but if they're Because we don't pick on
you enough Mike look at your look at your look
at your picture that you're using for your pro.
Oh, wait a second There's a reason we don't pick
on you because you could just drop us off the
podcast Better recognize don't to me before you
can do pick on me make me slip my wrists even
faster I Don't think you wait on that box by
the way I don't think anything will make you
slip your wrists faster with the amount of fast
food you eat It's gonna be a slow process. Yeah,
it would come out like molasses at this. Yes
It's more like Wendy's chili. I honestly wouldn't
know. I've never had Wendy's chili. Whoa. Wait,
you've never had Wendy's chili? No. You're missing
out, my friend. What is wrong with you? What
other fast food items have you never had before?
Hold on. Are you yelling at me for not having
a particular fast food item? Yes, I am. Have
you ever had chicken nuggets? You really are
a fucking slow mic. Have you had a frosty? Yeah,
you dip it in the frosty. Dip what in the frosty?
The chicken nuggets, man. Oh, gross. You dip
the fries in the frosty, you freak. You do both
of them. No, no, no. Yes. No, you do not. Next
time you go, get a goddamn frosty. Just dip it
in one and you're going to eat it. And after
you get through the orgasm in your mouth, you
will understand what I'm talking about. Ah, frostian.
I Mean don't get me wrong. I know it all mixes
together and all makes poop eventually, but ah
Frosty and chicken nuggets this sounds terrible
Dipping a potato into the chocolate goodnesses
is totally okay their fries are terrible. It
makes it better Their fucking nuggets are horrible,
too Wendy's No, they're not! Yes, they are! You're
wrong, sir. They are if they're dipped in Frosty.
No, there's no such thing as a good Chicken McNugget
or Chicken Nugget in general. You are wrong.
If you can squeeze meat into a form like that,
it cannot be good. You are so wrong, sir. I am
not. Do you really? If anybody is used to squeezing
meat into a form, it would be you. I will fight
you all day long about fast food. I love fast
food. Yeah, this is the skinniest guy Yeah, don't
bring that over here. I love me some chicken
nuggets. It's so good. My name is Mike. I have
a high metabolism Looks like Joe's trying to
download gone home because it went on sale again.
I Saw his uh his message trying to get us to
join us He's his laptops gonna explode apparently
he's using the computer right now. He should
be able to oh, yeah Piece of shit an ass text
him and say he's an ass for talking to us Yeah,
so he wanted to get his you could learn ukulele
so he could be a hipster douchebag, but it looks
like he's already there I Told him all ZD. He
was like oh, I might become a hipster when I
do take my lessons I was like dude you bought
the ukulele you're already there a shave to be
a hipster No, you don't you don't have to shave
with the fedoras no go into any coffee shop ever
I guess look for whoever's sitting down on the
laptop Right there if that's him. He needs a
he needs a hat Yes, but he's one of those wolfers
head. He's one of those wool pork pie hats He
could borrow my my Jane's hat from firefly like
everyone from attacking me to attacking Joe Joe's
not here. Oh, man. So fast food. And now I'm
texting him. Why, you know, podcast. I'm Facebook
messaging. I'm too. Why you know podcast? We
need more lemon pledge. And then I'm going to
go. It's my birthday. Why aren't you here? You
didn't get me anything. It's my birthday. We
were talking about video games no, we're talking
about fast food way to change the subject I Well,
there's obviously Sean doesn't eat fast food.
I just got done eating two big Kings. So Nobody
who eats fast food likes Burger King. I like
Burger King that they were true for five. Okay,
hold on. All right Who here has had the triple
whopper? That's a thing yes like I didn't see
it on the men I've had it is that like is that
like one of those weird things like when you
go to Taco Bell and get them to put the nachos
taco inside that you look inside the No, sir.
Well at least here in Flint well obviously Flint
town It was the number three on the value many
because number one was is the whopper number
two is the double whopper number three was the
triple whopper I Think our schools whopper whopper
jr. Yeah, maybe Jesus maybe hasn't made up to
Hickville where I live yet, so I mean As dinner
have you ever had the busy banging it so I've
never gone beyond a double okay? Who here has
had the what is it them at Wendy's the three
the one with the three patties? The triple yeah,
I wasn't like I like a third like a quarter pound
like a third pound or something like that How
did I become the smallest fat ass here all of
a sudden? Wasn't it the beefenator? No, you're
thinking of the baconator. There's the baconator.
And then there's the son of baconator. But there's
the one. There's like the there's the single.
Yeah, there's a single double triple. You're
right. The triple. Back in the day. Yes. Have
you ever done it, Sean? The triple from Wendy's?
No. I refuse. I can top. Well, this isn't a fast
food. I've done the thing where you go to the
steakhouse and they're like, if you can finish
this steak in an hour, I've done that. That explains
so much. Say whatever you want. I don't think
you're supposed to follow that up with several
times. Several times. Not in a row. I'm sorry.
It's a challenge. You must have meet challenges.
Does anyone, does anybody remember the Arch Deluxe
from McDonald's? What'd you say Dan I remember
it I've never had it so the MBX you remember
the MBX I Remember it never had Arch Deluxe turned
into the MBX and then the MBX got folded into
I think it just got discontinued Too many get
little kids died. So so good. Oh, please Can't
say the little kids dad. I didn't die from it.
I loved it All right Seriously, you eat worse
than I do. How is this possible? We can't guilt
him into joining us. What a jerk face. He used
to be jerk face. If I wasn't worried about getting
fined, I would say we should end this show by
singing Happy Birthday to Danner. Why would we
get fined? Because because it's expensive for
rights to have a birthday. Happy birthday is
public domain. No, it's not. It was. Nope. So
no, no, no, what we got to do is you got to sing
like the restaurant versions that they get away
with, like happy, happy birthday, happy, happy
birthday, happy, happy birthday to you. No, I
wish I had like one of those party blower things
where it's like, if you were blowing anything,
it would definitely be a party. OK, I think we've
chewed up. Well, got to make money somehow. How
do you think I'm paying for the next time we've
chewed up enough time at the end of this podcast?
Yeah, this podcast did end like 20 minutes ago,
didn't it? Awesome. So we are taking nominees
for the Off the Cuff 2013 Game of the Year Awards.
We've received several of them. At least I hope
Dan has gotten them. They have to be from this
year. I'm getting to that. Calm down. Steve Megatron.
Oh, some other people did that too. Now? No.
Here's the question. What about game of the year
collections that were released this year to those
count or do you go back to when the original
vanilla game came out? The vanilla game, okay,
right. So like someone put Starcraft 2 on their
list. No The second one did Starcraft 2 Yes,
it came. It's episodic. Really? Yeah, they released
Did it? Yes, um wings of Liberty or whatever.
It was was the Terran one that came out last
year But the Heart of the Swarm just came out
this year. Oh, yeah. But they so they can't so
they have to just take that separate. It's not
just Starcraft. OK, I'm sorry. I guess I think
it's because he said just Starcraft or he said
Starcraft two and not like the title underneath
it. I knew what he meant. Whatever. That's why
I'm filing the list because it's his birthday
and he knows everything. Yeah, this is the only
day he knows everything. Tomorrow he becomes
dumb as a rock. Reverts back to dumb as a rock
you mean so Yeah, the games have to be from January
1st 2013 to December 31st 2013 Please pick five
the order matters as we've said as is in the
pope really and Because now that shows up that
actually comes on the audio now, thank you Wait,
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. The chime came over the
audio chime. From what? Why? Why do you whatever?
I have not my problem that you have your Facebook
open anyway. Yeah, I issue anyways. Pick your
top five games from 2013. Any video game is fine.
The order matters this time. Number one is worth
five points and number five is worth one point.
After taking a sneak peek at the submissions
because Steve has been sending them to me. I
have very high hopes that My game will get Also
people if you're gonna start spamming Saints
Row 4 now is the time Cuz I'm gonna start man,
I'm gonna start making fake email addresses now
now and you're just gonna put Since row fourth
for one through five No, it's gonna be sensor
for um sensor for sensor for sensor four and
then i'm gonna throw a random fifth game in there
And then i'm gonna ha not just kidding so it's
real four Don't worry anything that has since
row four on the list at all is automatically
being thrown out zero zero points. That's racist
Yeah, racist against states row four. Yes, I
am I'm just not going to take the risk of the
fact that I assume that anything that comes through
with Saints Row 4 on the top five list will be
shot. Well, you know, there are those that want
us to do top five worst games. The worst. And
Saints Row 4 has been brought up multiple times
on the forums. Which I'll lie and say multiple
times just because Sean doesn't read the forums,
you know, let us know in the comment again I
can't read there's none All right. So if you
want to submit your list for game of the year
obviously the rules will be posted in the in
on the post for The rules will be posted in the
post for this episode on geek cast radio .com.
You can send your list to us at feedback at geek
cast radio .com If you would like us to do Off
the Cuff's worst game of the year, 2013, go ahead
and let us know in the comments section. Also,
if you'd like us to expand the awards at all,
I noticed there were some people that would like
us to do like the game of the year for the console,
like specific consoles and stuff like that. It's
plenty of life. I don't just try to liven it
up. I'm just trying to see what people want.
I'm just dipping. I'm dipping my toe in the water.
I want to see what people want We don't have
to do it. We don't have to do it this year, but
it's stuff so we can grow maybe Stop playing
to the masses Mike man. Just make a damn decision
I'm gonna say this now cuz I don't know when
this is probably gonna be you know you Screw
you This is probably gonna be in my list. I haven't
decided yet since row for but the console no
console Diablo 3 Came out this year, you know,
I think yes, we've already been over this and
Stop. Yes accounts the council versions come
out. Yes. I'm sorry, dude Were you going over
it in the forums because those don't count to
me No, we mean Mike had a personal conversation
away from anybody. So you know the Basically
comes down to the people that make decisions
for off the cops have already talked about this.
Yeah All I know is whenever I'm not here I get
messages saying we missed you that's because
we need you to come back Stop stop auto setting
up messages to be sent to yourself from yourself
You don't tell me that will happen anymore. We
think just cuz your birthday or special Yes,
I can say whatever I want. I want your hours
to do whatever I want. Oh, that's how it works
You I've killed three people today. I can do
whatever I want It's the purge never find the
body the trooper with the Prager lady doesn't
count that's two All right, that's what we call
a special surprise Okay, so a human pinata Let's
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You can find me on top of Danner's mother Dirty
pool, sir. You know what? For your birthday,
I want to give you a baby brother. I'm going
to go blast you on Twitter right now. All right,
that's it for Off the Cuff. Until next week,
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