Grand Theft Auto V Discussion

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welcome to off the cuff episode 29. I am your

host this week, Art Danner. I am joined by The

very slightly inebriated Mike Powers. Hello.

And the slightly ill Joe Reed. Hello. And the

amazingly still alive Sean Z. Brown. Hi. For

some reason, I thought you were going to go slightly

retarded. In my head, that's what I knew you

were going to say. I don't want to insult retards

by comparing you to them. Because that was...

Number one, it's mentally deficient. You call

them retards too. I don't like to call them retards

because that is... You're calling them retards

now. No, no, no, no. Well, maybe. When you call

somebody retarded to me that just means that

they can't catch on fire So I prefer to you know

say mentally deficient or I know is only one

of us has that special voice foam no beer the

Wheel spinning, but the hamsters dead Getting

calling books for Christmas for the rest of your

life Sean's mom, you know things like that She

is a very nice lady. Yeah. Why are we bringing

moms in like your mom? Who's a dirty freak? Hey,

hey. So I'm just saying I've never seen someone

swallow that many Ben was balls. That's all I'm

saying. Oh, God, I really hope my parents don't

listen to this. Me too. So to forego the, you

know, typical or semi -typical what you've been

doing. We're just going to jump into the whole

GTA five year because I've been doing because

that's what you know, the only game I've played

in the last two weeks since we recorded. Well,

let me rephrase that. Let's sidetrack for a moment.

I've played plenty of games, just none of them

were video games because we were at GrandCon

this past week. It was myself. Booth Ninja 81,

Mike Powers. Joe Reed of geek garage sale fame,

geek stuff garage sale fame and Steve Megatron

Phillips holding down the Ford on Saturday over

at Grand Con, which I have to say I had immense

amount of fun. I really enjoyed myself. I don't

know much about tabletop gaming, so it was kind

of nice to see that because God knows I didn't

play. Maybe I'm working myself up to that for

next year. I mean, me and Joe played a shitload

of board games and it was awesome. I had so much

fun on Sunday. Just a pair and decided to visit

the game library and check things out. And I'm

very happy that I did that. I opened myself up

to this whole new world of things that I never

considered. So the game that we played with the

hourglasses or minute glasses and the. Yes. Love

that game. Really really like the game can't

remember the name of it for the life of me is

it regardless or something like that? Tabasco

or something like that um We found it we looked

it up and found it and then it was we went up

We looked it up online it turns out completely

out of print cost a hundred and seventy eight

dollars to buy a copy of it Oh good god. I know

I was like oh, I really like that game. I'm never

gonna fucking play So if I could find it somewhere,

I will totally pick it up. But it's not going

to pay more than 15 or 20 bucks for it because

I died. I like board games. I just don't $178

like board games. You like video games more.

I like video games more. That's my wheelhouse.

I like to stick in that one. Besides that, we

played a let's me and Mike and Ali played Let's

Kill, which was. Awesome. That was, that was

a good time. I also was, uh, me and Joe played,

uh, cards against humanity, which, um, it's a

little difficult to play with two people and

we were laughing so hard. We were getting a few,

uh, weird looks from the tabletop players, which

all things considered is impressive that we were

getting weird looks from table, table, table

players. Nick, excuse me. Um, I'm trying to concentrate

and roll a 20. You're totally ruining my immersion

here, guys. Way to go. You maybe have a critical

fail. But I will. I do want to also say that

say what you will about anybody that tabletops

or collects comics because we are those people.

Nicest group of guys. Really, really enjoyed

meeting everybody, hanging out with everybody

and getting to know people. A lot of networking.

We got to meet a lot of other guys from other

podcasts. And I just it was all around to me.

Awesome time. Had had a lot of fun. I can't wait

for next year. You can't wait for next year.

I'll have to get out for one of these. Yeah.

And also looking forward to the next Geek Stuff

Garage sale on October 5th, Joe. Hey. I'm well,

that was not gay sounding at all. Like, hey,

I have no control over my voice. Get off my horse.

Sounds like you want someone to get on your horse

and hard. Yeah, two weeks, a geek garage sale,

eight vendors, probably more. We might be looking

at 10 groups of folks coming, and that's going

to be exciting considering I felt kind of vacant

from organizing it this time. But it really comes

together on its own most of the time. And so

we're at Apparitions Comics again in Grand Rapids.

If you're in the area, it's worth a drive. I'd

say if you came from Lansing, you'd be all right.

There's gonna be stuff. There's gonna be lots

of stuff. Well, then maybe I shouldn't come then.

Comics toys, collectibles, video games. You have

to come depending. That's fine. If Lansing is

far away as you can be before it actually gets

interesting, then maybe I just shouldn't come.

Well, I'm thinking before it gets worth it. I

mean, it is a garage sale, but, you know, hey,

it's fun. I think - Have you seen people that

go extreme garage selling, dude? Yeah, it is

the extreme geek garage sale, but - Yeah. Yeah,

that's and that makes the people more rational

by making them also geeks. I'm still not seeing

your logic here tends to look like a shanty town

All over a parking lot I still enjoy it when

the people show up they have no idea what it

is Oh, I was just curious and they look around

and then they give us And then they give us a

shitty look right before they leave and drive

off like what the fuck is wrong If you only knew

Giggity I feel like I should say it there. I

don't know the way you said that I Felt like

a giggity. Yeah. Yeah, I meant I meant it the

creepy way it sounded um I just assume you always

mean stuff the creepy way. Oh, yeah, totally

I sell enough stuff. I'm gonna offend I'm gonna

fund my 3ds with this purchase because that Remastered

sequel of Legend of Zelda that you showed me

this weekend Mike I have to play that but Joe

you could get a 2ds I want that it's an extra

dimension a link, but then you have to buy janko

jeans in order to put it in a pocket 2d s yes,

but the 3d s you don't need the 2d s yes I was

referring to the 2d s that's the reason I pulled

a 90s reference of jinko jeans didn't I bring

up jinko jeans a couple years ago and no one

knew what I was talking about was that all the

way we've told that would probably an altered

geek no you've definitely talked about you owning

a pair of these at some point I think it was

more than a couple weeks ago This may have been

a couple of months ago. I think it was mostly.

I wore MC Hammer pants to elementary school.

We didn't acknowledge it mostly because of the

fact that we were ashamed of you, Mike. I'm pretty

sure it was something we were talking about when

we actually did retro stuff. And that somehow

brought that up because you were talking about,

I don't know, playing Pokemon Yellow or something.

I can't remember. I don't play Pokemon. Oh, sure.

No. What? No. Don't even know where I am right

now go home. You're drunk. Yes So let's let's

jump into it. Let's jump into GTA 5 and I want

to start with one thing let's I I Want you to

say what your best experience describe your best

experience in GTA 5 so far What is the what is

the one thing that just? Tickled you in all the

naughty parts Best was first best or most interesting

whoever wants to jump in and because I like that

Sean hasn't shut up I'm assuming he's going first.

I when do I ever shut up? I don't know what do

you have a cock in your mouth? I still don't

because then it's more like Probably the coolest

thing I noticed is was on accident I was driving

on a motorcycle is before I even had a gun really

and I just happened to hit the LB button and

you flick people off. You're stealing my answer.

Should have gone first, bitch. That's right,

I think Dan and I are gonna have the same answer.

Probably. And I don't know what was more fun,

figuring out that I can flick people off or figuring

out that it has a reaction. That's the best part.

Other drivers and people should be pissed at

you. It's fantastic. I had a guy, I did it to

one guy, then I pulled into an ammunition to

go get more body armor. And then he ran me over

with his car. He pulled into the driveway or

into the thing and ran me over. Over my God,

over flipping the bird. OK, Joe, what's what's

yours? Yeah. Or is that pretty much the same

thing? Similar story. I accidentally discovered

it in toggling through trying to figure out which

button put my gun away while I was driving. And

as my car is slowly rolling by a bus stop in

the ghetto at night. I see my little hand come

out the window and give the finger to everybody

waiting for this midnight bus here. They'll jump

down and start kicking my car and ripping me

out. And we get in a nice little fist fight down

there. And then I just I like, oh, my God, there's

actually a function for that button. And so I'm

driving around and I just steer the camera around.

So it goes in front and then to the right and

then into the back. He puts it up in the rear.

It's better on a motorcycle because then you

can actually see your guy do it better. It's

fantastic I'm totally getting on a motorcycle

after this yeah, do it It's it's infinitely better

because you he'd like you could get a clear view

of it as everybody gets pissed off at you So

Mike I have a feeling we're gonna have the same

story Do you want me to say the story or would

you like to say the story? I think you can say

the story okay, so we were Over the weekend all

hanging out and playing GTA 5 and We were currently

trying to evade him a military base and we had

died and Woke up at a clinic next to a sheriff's

station and The moment Trevor walked out of the

the clinic There was a female sheriff standing

directly outside of the sheriff's station Walked

up to the female officer hit the D pad right

button to initiate a conversation. I don't remember

initially what Trevor said to her, but I definitely

remember what followed the second time. The second

time hitting the D pad after the cop has reacted

to what Trevor has said, he goes, oh, that's

sarcasm. You're a dumb twat. Then the female

officer pulls her gun out and proceeds to empty

the entire clip into Trevor's chest And that

was I gotta do that more I only do that every

once in a while talk to people that was the most

Grievous overreaction I've ever heard to calling

a female officer a twat I mean I do it all the

time say like how many other times have you done

this usually they just pepper spray you It's

usually kicked to the balls of pepper spray.

I mean, seriously, just emptying an entire clip

into somebody's chest. I think that's a jump

in overreaction or whatever. It's just I see

how it is. Was that pretty much what you were

going to say, Mike? Yeah, pretty much. Yeah.

Do you have anything to add to that? No. I got

one more. I found the enjoyment of playing around

with the. You know what? I said only one. You're

done, Sean. What? You can have mine You both

said the same one so there's still a total of

four um Playing around the tow trucks the funnest

thing because I like backing up in front of people

while they're moving Make them stop drop the

thing pick it up, and they'll jump out of their

car, but I drive away before they get out Oh,

I try I try to but usually it doesn't have enough

get up and go On accident I was driving and I

like using the back cars like a wrecking ball

When you're driving looks like swinging into

people um I accidentally hit the button to release

the car as I did that and Then it creams off

the sidewalk into the same one of those things

you were talking about Joe where people are waiting

for the bus Then there was no people waiting

for the bus. I believe we call those bus stops

Really cuz they didn't stop a damn thing Because

as soon as the car leaves the hook it goes faster

than your truck Yeah, you threw a car at a bus

stop. Yeah car was awesome for stopping buses

It's right directional button while you're driving

you just drops it also does the same thing if

you're driving a tractor trailer drops the trailer

nice Mm -hmm that I guess I guess I do into a

gas station and dropped it off next to the pumps

walked away and then Shot at it and it was an

instant three stars after I'd started to run

away from it. They're really good blowing up

a gas station I want to use the jerry can to

blow up one the one other interesting thing the

Involving buses amazingly enough as I did manage

to climb up on a bus and ride on a bus Around

the entire city. How'd you get on top? I climbed

Yeah, but oh like did you have to get to it when

it was before like it was It was stopped and

I jumped up and he just grabbed the edge of it

and pulled himself up But I was we were the bus

is driving around the city and I pull out the

grenade launcher I just started shooting cars

all around and because I'm constantly in motion

and at the top of the bus and not falling off

The cops couldn't catch me nor find me. But the

funny thing was the driver was like, oh God,

there's somebody shooting. So it's speed off

with you on top with me on top and then slow

down like it was safe. And then I would shoot

again and then speed up like he's trying to get

away from me and then slow down again. I just

kept going around and around the city until there

was a super low bridge and fucking knocked me

right off. Don't. Yeah. I was like, wait a second.

Oh, no. Yeah, we did it. Did it, like, instant

kill you? Nope. I survived. That's good. And

the stripper minigames fun, too. Yes. Incredibly

awkward. I was disappointed. Incredibly awkward,

but fun. Boobies. Yay, boobies. I was hoping

I could drive the hand over the body as that

was happening. So your problem that is not perverted

enough. Gotcha. Did it cuz aren't told me to

it's peer pressure And then you could take her

back to her, you know apartment and I've only

got a Prude strippers. Yes. I've gotten to the

two times. I've tried it They both say I'm not

do I look like I'm that kind of girl and the

one said do it The one said does it do I look

like a whore? I was kind of like my guy nod Daddy

issues It's like you look like a girl with nice

areolas like I don't know like what the hell

you want from me Did you not get their their

like bar up high enough? It was maxed. Yeah Wow,

you you even repulse girls in video games. Oh,

that's nice Maybe it's maybe this trick is to

not do that. Do you usually do the double dance

too? The double dance where they bring in a second

stripper. No, maybe that's it Maybe it's because

I would always bring in a second stripper, so

I'd have both of their bars liked up. I did.

I could barely please one woman. Why would I

try to want to please two? Wait a second. I just

walked into that, didn't I? Backwards and bent

over. Oh. So who's my here's my question. After

everyone's unlocked all three characters, who's

your who do you like playing as better? I've

only played as Trevor, so. So as soon as you

got Trevor you just keep them no like literally

when we went over to the buddy's house to play

it Okay, I don't own the game unlike the three

of you guys Because I mean you could pretty I

just figured you'd have tried switching around

and because they all have different abilities

and stuff like that I have a ps4 too and at that

point in time in the game We couldn't switch

because he was stuck in Trevor. Oh That sounded

kind of dirty. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah Aw, yeah. In

Trevor. Well, I'm a fan of Michael because I

feel bad for him and how horrible his life is.

I see that he tries all the time. And I like

that there are points in the story mission where

you can choose to do the right thing or the wrong

thing. Like the wife gets picked up for shoplifting

and you can either save her or let her rot in

jail. I'm playing Michael in a way when it gives

me those little role playing moments. I'm playing

him in a way that he's going to do the right

thing and his family is going to screw him over

because that's the way the story goes. But so

I like Michael for that, that he's trying and

he can't make it. That's the character that I

can relate to the most. And then I've got the

thug from the ghetto who's trying who's obviously

trying to get out of the ghetto. At least I don't

hate him as much as I hated the dude from San

Andreas. Yeah. Trevor, I thought. He was going

to be my least favorite, but that's the one that

I'm tackling out loud at. Oh, yeah. He's totally

amazing sometimes. And what I noticed from a

character story, kind of not story standpoint,

but he is the only character in the entire game

that has his destiny by the balls and takes what

he wants and gets what he wants. And he's obviously

trying to help everybody else take what they

want and get what they want. And he's probably.

Don't know. He's not the most sane character.

He's the freest he is the freest from that and

I think Michael will eventually kind of Latch

on to that. I hope maybe you know, I don't know

where the story goes yet. Yeah that is I'm actually

interested in the story What's gonna happen between

these three characters? I will say one thing

when you had you were talking about the moment

where with the cop I had a similar moment driver

I switched to I switched to him from Michael

And so it goes into like the little scene of

him, whatever he's doing. And he's leaning on

this railing, talking to a girl outside of a

health restaurant called Nutbusters is the name

of the place. So he's talking. He's like, he's

like, wait, you don't put me in your mouth, be

a little suck a cock. I just don't get it. Fantastic.

Yeah. And I'm like, it's and then it goes to

you. I'm like, what do you want me to do after

that? I need a minute. Nope, sorry. I was reading

the email by bad. Um go. Yeah, I think skills.

Sorry Sorry, I'm used to you know, my training

in it. It's fine I was just thinking that you

might be able to take over and then you just

Sorry, I got my I'm sorry I got my email confirmation

that my my ps4 Release date is now on the 15th

of November, and I was just you know With excitement

I know I'm hard to right now. I was gonna say

man. I don't think it's your phone You were stroking

we could sword fight right now if we were in

the same room. Oh, that'd be great So awkward

What is the one thing about the game that's driving

you nuts so far driving nuts like that you're

just like It was the one thing that you find

maybe slightly frustrating or something you've

noticed so far that you just kind of bothering

you I can answer this immediately um it takes

too long to switch between characters What you're

on Xbox aren't you yep? How long? 10 to 20 seconds.

Oh my God. It zooms out from the one, then moves

over the map to where the other one is, then

zooms back in. I know it takes a little bit of

time on the PS3, but it doesn't take no 20 seconds.

And I'm assuming, is it only one desk on the?

Yes. Yes. Yeah. There's an install desk on the

360. Well, there's still the install on the PS3,

too. Yep. There's two separate disks, one just

for the install. Right. If I'm installing that

much stuff, I shouldn't have... The rest of the

load times are really... Decent and almost you

don't even really notice them, but switching

between characters is so annoying And it just

it takes you out of it so much now when you switch

like that Do you get like the little loading

like does it zoom out? Go to the map and then

zoom like move over zoom in then you get like

the loading I gone. No, no, no It doesn't it

doesn't zoom because I don't know how it doesn't

it zooms it like it kind of does like Imagine

you're on Google like Earth. Yeah, and you and

you click those the zoom in button not where

you drag it in But so it just kind of jumps jumps

jumps jumps So it kind of jumps out three times.

Yep, and then and then And then jumps in three

times exactly, but it's just that takes Too long.

How long would you say it takes on the ps3 Joe?

If it takes ten seconds, there's they were really

far away and it's loading a lot of assets But

generally less than five And as far as I can

tell, distance between the characters has no

concern. I had literally had guys within 20 feet

of each other. No, I'm curious. Did you make

the mistake of installing the play disc as well?

No. OK. I've heard that if you install the play

disc as well, it kind of screws up the texture

popping. Yeah. Yeah. It's like bad, right? That's

what I that's what I heard when I saw it because

I was I was playing I was gonna install it until

I saw this and I looked it up and I was like,

okay, I'm Supposedly what I've heard the best

way to play the game right now is they have a

physical copy of the ps3 copy is the best version

because even the the digital download version

of the On ps3, I guess does also have texture

pop -in issues kind of like the 360 does but

the disk based version works the best. I think

the load times are far, like the zoom in zoom

out is far better on the digital copy for the

PS3. But Andy said that it has the same texture

popping issues that the 361 does where he was

driving like a bat out of hell through the countryside

and then he hit the city. And when he hit the

city, it was literally just gray. Buildings with

no texture on anything and he was like, well,

this is a dumb -looking city and then all of

a sudden the textures slowly popping in so it's

So ecstatic that I have not had a single noticeable

graphical glitch no pop -ins Well, supposedly

you have the best way to play Joe. That's great

excited So, uh Joe what's something you notice

that has bothered you about the game? Anytime

I'm in a shootout, I can't tell where I'm being

shot from because I'm focused on the little cursor,

the little reticle in the middle of the screen.

I'm not focused on those red bars that are physically

two and a half feet away from that on my TV screen.

So I can't tell which direction I'm getting shot

at. And I die so often in any kind of shootout.

And I also dislike where I can't, I'm hitting

the L button to bring up the sights and then

I I shoot and then the screen kind of pulsates

dark or gray or blue and I think I'm getting

shot but I think it's like the reward for getting

a head shot so you don't think I can think and

that drives me nuts because I think I'm getting

shot so that's my that's my biggest I don't think

I've ever come across that you just suck at aiming

at their heads really because I'll give it a

shot I don't know I don't know, like, um, was

it while you were using an ability? The only

time I've ever noticed that was when I was with

Michael and his slow time thing. When you pull

off a good job, then it does, it does a little,

it does the little like almost what you're describing.

And for those of you that haven't played it,

all the characters has a special ability. When

you mash the joystick buttons. That's, that's

kind of awkward. Clicking both those in at the

same time is kind of awkward to do. Only on the

360. Because you got the staggered staggered

sticks as opposed on the ps3 No, it's not that

it's it's like it's yeah, that that's not what's

bothering me is like Michaels and Trevor's our

problem with it's what I'm driving Because I

mean like if I'm in the middle of taking a turn

I realize I'm gonna mess up It's hard to click

without letting go of this, you know, stop turning

click then turn again. I think I think the L3

and R3 on the on the ps4 control or ps3 controller

is just Think they just click easier Maybe I

don't know it's like I don't have any problem

by accident all the time Yeah, it's I don't have

any problem with Trevor's ability and Trevor's

is pretty cool the Rampage mode I'm very excited

to see the return of the official rampages. I

mean I haven't done that since the first Grand

Theft Auto Those are fun. Mm -hmm the first one

I don't know if it glitched out for me, but you

know how like normally you um take reduced damage

while doing crazy amounts of damage at trevor's

with well i don't use it when yeah when he does

it it kind of like you don't get hurt as easy

in the first rampage i don't know if it just

messed up but like people blew through my armor

and health like crazy quick And then I was like,

my, and these things are hard. So then I read

it again and it was suit. And it was like, his

is pretty easy. It's basically just, you know,

snap to target, shoot, snap to target, shoot,

snap to target, shoot all running around. So

the second try, I got like no problem, aced it,

but the first time I just destroyed me, I don't

know if I had a weird, that's the first time

I ever saw something that kind of struck me as

glitchy. I don't know if it was just me or if

I was doing it wrong, but. I was like, it was

kind of like one of the first moments where I

was like, Jesus shit. That's right. Jesus shit.

That's a holy crap. Zing. Oh, I see what you

did there. No, seriously, he's got holes in his

crap. It's really weird. And there. Yeah. Holy

shit, Batman. I don't even know if I really want

to pull the can off of this. So Mike, what things

have you seen that you are unimpressed with or

don't like about the game besides the fact that

you find it boring and rather go play Diablo

3 or Dragon's Crown? Well, okay. Thoughts? First

of all, I don't think anyone can really question

the technical feat that Rockstar has pulled off

with this game. It looks amazing. And I think

like even when we were playing it on Saturday

night, just, you know, driving around, rampaging

it under the worst conditions possible because

we're playing a digital copy. I was I didn't

I didn't say it then, but I was tempted to throw

around words like it looks like infamous or it

looks like uncharted. Especially when you get

out into like the wilderness and stuff like that.

And then I started, you know, we had the conversation

about how it looks it's kind of like you know

it's a really good game for a handheld you know

it's kind of like it looks really it looks really

good for a rockstar game because no one expects

rockstar to make games that look like this well

that was that was my thing is the fact that i

thought the graphics look yeah that was my argument

the graphics look good for a rockstar game now

does it look good for a next generation title

at the end of the generation it's okay Graphically,

I always I see it as like They're giving up.

Oh my god crazy graphics for so much other stuff.

Oh, no I couldn't get over how good the roads

looked and that Couldn't get over. I was like

man. Those road textures are really good looking.

Yeah No, I wasn't I'm not I'm not saying that

like I'm I think the game looks amazing and I

think it's kind of a granted Rockstar got like

five years to put this thing through and a budget

that most other games would probably kill for.

But to me, we had the conversation, were you

there, Joe? When we had the conversation about

developers, with the more we would rather have

them be able to include more animations. With

the RAM because the way that RAM is typically

used it has to be able to hold everything that

a character can possibly do The example given

was the ability to holster your gun in Mass Effect

There is no Right, but a lot of people wanted

the ability to holster your gun, but there wasn't

enough RAM Supposedly for them to have a gun

holster animation So your character unless it's

like, you know, unless the character doesn't

have a gun he just doesn't have a gun but there's

no way for you to put a gun away if you have

a gun in your hands and It seems like You know

visually I really do think you know a couple

minor things here and there Like the epilepsy

that is brought on by water when you're playing

the digital copy But I feel like you know that

you got we talked about how you have the middle

finger when you're driving around like what is

that like that's like usually in the past games

it was like you had a gun or you had some type

of like combat thing but now if you don't have

something in your hands your character automatically

has the ability to flip people off when he's

driving down the road that's kind of to me that's

like the biggest fu to other AAA development

like some of the stuff that they've pulled off

with the size of the world and Oh, you mean like

after seeing this you kind of go back to those

other people like fucking slackers Like the way

you tell me you gave me all this bullshit for

reasons you couldn't do stuff when clearly you

could have yeah, I mean the only thing I can

really I'll I can fault the game for is I mean

and this is something that they probably took

a trade -off you have to make right it's it's

um The the frame rate is an issue. Although I

haven't seen screen tearing as much as I thought

I would the frame rate is an issue, but like

you're getting so much in return for a few dropped

frames that it's like it's almost forgivable.

And I like what I've seen and I had I mean, I

didn't when we were over at when we were playing

on Saturday night, I didn't touch the controller.

I didn't want to touch the controller because

I felt like if I if I touch the controller, I

was going to go by the damn game. And how did

that work out for you? Well, I watched Daner

play it, and everyone else there was playing

there having a good time, and I was having fun

adding color commentary, and there was some much

fun to be had at the expense of 9 -11. There's

a lot of 9 -11 jokes. I don't know why, but...

I don't know. It was... Too soon? Too soon? Too

soon. No? I don't know. Anyways... I didn't want

to play because I knew that I was gonna I could

already tell like but I was having fun in that

setting sitting down with my friends playing

the game and watching all the crazy stuff that

happens and I for some reason and and that was

enough for me to and I talked to my wife about

it and she she wanted to play it I was like well

let's go half on it and so I paid you know I

paid you know we paid half for it and We picked

it up, and I got home, and I started playing

it myself, and it's just... I don't know. It

didn't have that same... I like the group mentality

that comes along with Grand Theft Auto. Granted,

I never played Grand Theft Auto 4 online. I never

did that. I don't think you're missing too much.

It had its moments of fun, but it was... After

playing games like Crackdown... And like just

some other like cooperative situational like

games like that. I feel like that's I almost

feel like it was such a travesty that there wasn't

co -op in the game. And I know we've I've beaten

that horse to death about this game. But I feel

like I said on Facebook, I'm more I think I'm

more excited for Grand Theft Auto online because

I'll be able to get that same chaotic experience.

With like Joe and you know, maybe if we can peer

pressure Danner into buying a copy of it I feel

like we can get that same experience of you know

Just general mayhem of sitting on the couch passing

the controller But everybody gets to participate

as long as we can recapture what me and Joe did

on Grand Theft Auto 4 I'm okay with it with him

driving the moped and me sitting on the back

of it with the gun shooting stuff up So and see,

that's fun. Like I like having I like the general

chaos of it. I just and I feel like there's a

there's like a way to just like cut loose and

actually like enjoy. I feel like I enjoy the

world that they made and you get that sense of

I'm I'm letting loose, I'm cutting loose on some

steam. You know, I'm just I'm I'm relaxing, chilling

out, shooting some police officers. You know

I general will accent right and I feel like that's

I feel like that's okay for some reason in my

head. That's okay When I'm doing it with like

a group of people, but just like for some reason

playing a single player of Grand Theft Auto 5

I And I'm gonna give it more of a shot. I really

am I Just didn't have time to play it today because

I was too depressed and then I started drinking

and eating pizza But wait there was pizza. Yep.

There was pizza If you can't feel better off

after beer and pizza, then you're not human.

Might as well kill yourself. Might as well. You

want to borrow my box of razor blades? No, I

don't. So I just. They're for you, not for anybody

else. Those are your. I wrote your name on each

individual razor. But it's the gift that keeps

on giving. Well, actually taking. But whatever.

It's a taker. It's not a giver. But it gives

to take. Okay, I'm more excited for the online

stuff because I just don't like playing it by

my so far I'm not there hasn't been anything

that's gotten me going. Oh, I need to play this

like I'm there's I I've done the I'm sorry the

Michael stuff up to where you get to Franklin

That was a great crossover I didn't see that

coming at all and then I got to Franklin's house

And that's kind of where I am. I was actually

going to go and just like drive around. I thought

maybe if I just go and just get in his car and

I drive around, you know, I will get caught up

in the immersion of it. And then my friend asked

me to play Dragon's Crown. So I went and did

that. I've been in that situation. I can only

play it in short bursts. I was homesick from

work today and could have put six non -stop hours

into it, but I just couldn't do it. I really

think Grand Theft Auto as an entity is, especially

with the last, I don't know, starting since Vice

City. If you're not playing it for the story,

you're really missing out on things. and yes

the general mayhem is fun but you're right mike

it's most fun when you're with people and you

can all laugh and react and swap the controller

with it because i've tried general mayhem one

of my missions one of my goals personal goals

for playing grand theft auto 5 is to take my

time and not rush through the story like i tend

to do with these types of games and i've gone

off and i've driven the the giant circle of the

island and i had less fun doing that than i thought

and i've threw sticky bombs onto public buses

as they drove into intersections and blew up

every car in the area, but it just, it doesn't

hold my attention for long. And the story gets

overwhelming because, you know, high attitude

kinds of situations that just builds up, okay,

time for a break. But I really think that there

will be a whole other component to this game

when that online drops that we will all be able

to Enjoy I'm you know you guys are excited for

general chaos, I can I'm down for that but I'm

also excited for capturing the energy of the

wonderfully orchestrated heist missions that

are in the story mode into what what appears

to how they handle that in the online version

and the online part of that I hope that. There

will be the three different roles and I don't

have to jump between characters. It's my job

to sit here in the car and wait for you guys

to run out of the bank with the bags and then

we drive and then I'm waiting for those moments.

I think that's that's where I will have the most

fun playing online. I think, you know, going

for what you just said, I think my problem with

this and I don't think it's it's I don't think

it's just GTA's problem. I think it's it's when.

There's a game this big. I feel like if I sit

down to play it, for some reason, I feel anti

-social. And as big as the game is and as long

as the game is, I don't want to be anti -social.

I'd rather go through that experience with my

friends or I'd rather have that experience with

them. I have no problem playing shorter single

-player games like Tomb Raider, like Bioshock

Infinite, but I feel like if it's something that

is massive... I just feel like the single player

closes me off from engaging with you guys. But

you as a gamer are a more naturally go towards

the multiplayer and the social aspect of the

games you always have. That's your gaming style.

Yeah, my gaming style is much more sit down with

it and enjoy it like a good book with the lights

on dim and completely focused on it, not distracted.

But I think it's just, I mean, I did, well, the

last Grand Theft Auto I enjoyed was Vice City.

And then after that, they got huge. But multiplayer,

I didn't enjoy San Andreas. But multiplayer didn't

really hit me until the 360, and that's when

it became a thing. And Dan, you're right, I do

gravitate towards the multiplayer stuff because

I like playing games with my friends. it allows

us to do that, but it's just like, I don't, I

mean, it's like, it's kind of like you. It's

like when we were playing, um. Oh, what were,

what were Sean Z and I playing and we're in like

a chat and you didn't want to chat with us because

you were playing it. Was it Tomb Raider? Was

it Assassin's Creed or something? I can't remember.

But it was, it was. It was, it was either Revelation.

I think I might have been trying to finish Revelations.

Or was it Infinite? Sean Z and I played Infinite

in a chat. Think yeah most of that gaming I always

spent we were talking to each other while playing

on our separate games Yeah, it must have been

infinite man. I refuse to join you guys because

I did I just wanted to focus on the story and

play the game and I didn't want to Really talk

because unfortunately when I'm playing my single

-player games, I don't I don't It's I it's my

experience. It's for me. Oh, no, and it's one

of those. Yeah I totally get that. I'm just saying

like it was kind of it's it's it's like you wanting

to play those single player games and I I get

that and you know, I played I played enough of

biotech infinite by myself there was you know,

I think Sean's and I only did that like once

or twice and then Yeah, he other guy ended up

playing more than I did or I didn't play more

than he did and we just got out of sync with

each other but yeah and it's one of those things

that when you're at different points in time

in the game and you're hearing about oh god and

it's like oh no what what's coming and it just

kind of overhype some of the experience for me.

Right. But I feel like, I don't know, just a

game, but like Bioshock is a short game compared

to a game like Grand Theft Auto. I don't want

to, I get the whole, I'm going to sit down and

treat it like it's a good book with the lights

dim low and a glass of Merlot and I'm going to

enjoy this, I'm going to soak it up. I get that

with like a shorter, you know, 12, 15, maybe

20 hour game. but for a game the size of like

Grand Theft Auto and and maybe it's also the

fact that I'm really holding it against them

that they did the three protagonists like they

have the three main characters and it's not cooperative

through the story maybe that's one of the reasons

why I'm making such a big deal about this is

because they did that I just feel like this is

such a big game and you gave us three characters

I want to be able to I want I want to be able

to stay in this world as long as I can and I

can do that better if I'm playing with my friends

I think doing that, though, gives it a bigger,

more epic scope, though. I think it makes taking

the story into that kind of direction and having

three protagonists that you can jump between

eventually in the game. I think it adds replayability

to the game. It adds New depths it adds more,

you know diverse storytelling and I think it's

just I think it's a unique dynamic now I Get

how you can see that it feels like a wasted Game

mechanic of not having the co -op there, but

I get why I get why they did what they did But

I also get why you know, you're a little bothered

by why they did what they did But I still think

it's a really interesting design choice and storytelling

choice. I mean, bravo to them for going someplace,

you know, other games don't go. Well, one of

the things that somebody brought up about that

character switching thing is that it actually

makes it actually streamlines the gameplay to

have three different characters that you can

switch between, because what will happen is like

you do one mission with a character and you end

up out in the middle of nowhere. You don't switch

to another curtain instead of driving a low backers,

right? You don't have to drive all the way back

You can switch to somebody else while the AI

for that character makes it back to wherever

they need to be So, I mean I know and we had

this conversation before like yeah, it's great

and everything and and they are giving us Grand

Theft Auto online But it just goes back to me

saying I will probably have more fun with it

when I can play a game of that size with my friends

Yeah, I will say The switching between people,

I wasn't sure how I was going to accept it, but

one of the parts of the Grand Theft Auto games

that I always hated is that I love being in the

passenger seat of the car shooting during missions.

And I hate when they make me drive and try to

shoot. Well, no, I mean, because it's like I,

it's always I always am just like slowing down

and I can't ever get the motion. Or if I have

to rely on, you know, computer players to shoot

for me. So you can't do two things at once is

what you're saying. Well, it depends. Not when

my pointer finger needs to be in two different

places. Exactly. Wink. Wink. Anyways, but it

was cool. I forget what Michelle was doing. I

was driving the car as Franklin and it was flashing

to turn to Michael. It didn't make me turn switch

to Michael if I didn't want to. So I'm assuming

I could have, you know, Aimed out the back with

Franklin shot at him that way and probably still

done it But I switched to Michael because I like

shooting anyways, but it's nice to see that if

someone prefers Driving the car and shooting

and doing drive -bys they can do that or they

can switch to that So it gives them a lot of

options Yeah, yeah plus now I mean with it with

the first heist mission I'm not gonna say too

much about it, but it's nice to see that when

you're playing those missions like an old Grand

Theft Auto games where it's like, oh, you're

just doing this. And this other character did

all this cool stuff off screen. It's cool that

it switches you to do that off, you know, so

you're supporting yourself by getting shit ready,

you know? Right. Oh, this person has to do this

while you're doing this. No, you end up doing

both, which I think that's just it. I wasn't

sure if I was going to like it before, but now

that I have played it, I love that. Can I go

talk about the controls for a second? No. I think

this is like the I think it'd be fine on the

360 because the 360 controller has more tension

on the sticks than the ps3 controller But driving

I have not figured that shit out yet It I mean

it literally the car will go I mean the car goes

where you tell it to But the problem is where

you tell it to and where you have the analog

stick isn't always the same thing Just just in

the one like the first race that I was in with

Franklin Um there were times where I spun the

car like all the way around and I didn't how

much? How much Grand Theft Auto 4 did you play

not a lot? It's better. No it is better way better

than for no. I also I prefer for You prefer the

driving in four yeah the cars had weight and

I could tell When I needed to slow down to go

around corners these cars feel more like a need

-for -speed car that can take a corner at 150

miles an hour And you don't need to but at the

same time When you move that joystick just a

little bit over, it's like 90 degrees like your

turn in that direction now. And so I end up kind

of zigzagging down the road a lot. Yeah. Good.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that experienced

that. I have noticed that actually buying upgrades

and stuff for your car means something because

it does drastically change how good your car

is. I have an upgraded car and it's parked in

a garage right now and I'm afraid to touch it

because of the glitches they've been advertising

about. Oh, the one with the mission. Like if

you start a mission and yeah, start a mission

with a car in the garage and then you go get

the car and it never appears again. Well, the

one I heard was if you're in if you drive that

car to the mission and in that mission, it makes

you switch, get into a different car. You lose

whatever you're that first car you had. And that

car needs to teleport back to the garage. Thanks

for giving me another reason not to play it.

I don't know. I don't know if it's on everything,

but. uh the other the other little thing and

this is just like me you know it's it's used

to me being used to like one set of controls

versus another um most playstation 3 games um

l1 is aim and r1 is shoot and you need to i usually

go into the controls and flip them So that L2

is aim and R2 is and shoot. Now in Grand Theft

Auto V, they've already done that. That's the

actual control scheme is that L2 is shoot or

aim and R2 is shoot. And I keep going and hitting

L1 and R1 and nothing ends up happening. It's

like I was expecting it to have the standard

PlayStation 3 shooting controls and then... I

would have to go and switch them or whatever

or I was kind of and it surprises you and it's

already there. Yeah Yeah, I'm not used to it

yet. So So I Want to discuss some numbers before

we move on to our next subject. Okay, so 800

million in 24 hours In this industry record sales.

I thought you were gonna say hookers killed in

the first billion dollars in the first three

days, making it the fastest selling entertainment

product in the history of the industry. You think

they're going to make Grand Theft Auto 6? I doubt

it. I'm sure they're going to abandon it after

that. Has the third highest rating on Metacritic

at 97 out of 100. After what and what? Only behind

Grand Theft Auto 4 and Legend of Zelda Ocarina

of Time. Multiple ten out of tens and nine out

of tens from pretty much every single game magazine

imaginable star knows how to make a game critically

critically acclaimed and Also loved by gamers

It's you know the few times that critics and

fans both agree on something. I just to me the

numbers are It's pretty impressive Not gonna

lie, it's a little impressive. It automatically

makes me feel like a douche because I haven't

gone out and bought it, just looking at the numbers.

But I get a PS4 to play for, pay for, and that's

kind of what I'm working at. You can always get

Grand Theft Auto 5 on that. Yeah, when it doesn't

come out on the next system. But whatever. You

really don't think it will now, when they can

double dip? Was thoroughly okay. I was thoroughly

convinced that it's not gonna happen until you

brought up the bully argument with me and now

I'm second -guessing everything because I totally

forgot about bully and the fact that it was released

on the ps2 and then had got a revamped version

for the 360 like forever later Yeah, forever

later, but it did come out and we I know it's

not gonna be soon Time will tell time will tell

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I know today I maybe maybe I'll do it in old

English next time. Yeah, that would be awesome

Welcome to ye old pull bag Doth thou readeth?

Doth thou readeth a fortnight? henceforth Going

are we just trying to think of old timey words

now a for plague A plague in the house of Montague.

Oh, poor you. I know him well. It should have

been a plague in the house of Xavier. Yeah, it

should be. Oh, wheels are turning. Maybe an interesting

take. Romeo and Juliet meets Charles Xavier in

the House of M. I'd see that alternate reality.

Oh, there we're going with it. All right. So

our second our second topic today is We kind

of want to spend the time to reflect upon Nintendo

and all of its glory since their President that

brought them to the forefront front of the video

game entertainment industry Hiroshi Yamauchi

Yeah, what's your mama? Of course, you're gonna

shit all over that by saying Told you I was I

told you I was gonna say it you're real dick.

You know what a man died Way to be a dick and

ruin everything Sean Well, I figured since you

were hosting, I'd take up your position for the

episode. He doesn't interrupt me as much as you

interrupt him. Yeah. Well, see, it's to the point

where if it's effortless for me, you're just

trying too hard. Sorry, I'm not naturally douchey.

I got to work a little harder than you. That's

your own fault. I I like to look in the mirror

at home and practice my doucheyness before I

get on here so I can be at peak. Performance

levels. You know what? Thinking about you in

the mirror, douching yourself really isn't that

big of a shock to me. Seriously, how am I supposed

to edit this out? So at least you imagined him

doing it into the mirror. I imagined him saying,

come here, wife, come here, children. I need

to practice my douchebaggery on you. That's what

he calls them to at home. Wife, children, come

here, grab the hose. Son good for you. I'm glad

you got it. It's a gold star today. Let me knock

you down a few pegs, okay? You know I'm gonna

do I'm gonna censor that talk about that stuff

I'm gonna keep everything, but I'm just gonna

censor it with some like piano music elevator

music And then it'll just come back to us the

girl from Ipanema instrumental version I was

thinking, what does that sound like? Yeah, the

Benny Hill music. That's called Yakety Sax. There

you go. Charlie Chaplin Falls. So anyway, we're

here to talk about Hiroshi Yamauchi. Don't do

it, Sean. Don't fucking do it. What? What? Exactly.

He was born on November 7th, 1927 and died on

September 19th, 2013. He was the third president

of Nintendo joining the company in 1949. He joined

the company in 1949 until he stepped down on

May 31st of 2002 when he named Satoru Iwata.

as the new as a successor. So he pretty much

launched everything up to the GameCube. Yeah,

he. He started. When he started and he was 22

when he started in the company, he was named

his dad, named him successor. It was a completely

family run company. He actually broke protocol

and. When he named Iwata the president because

that was the first time They had a non -family

member as the president of the company but it

was because and he when he stepped down it was

because of the fact that he just He was burnt

out. He didn't feel like he had The right ideas

to carry Nintendo forward from that point on

and he was no longer Leading the company in the

future. He was holding in the past. Well, I don't

think he was necessarily holding in the past

I just think he saw that the industry was getting

ready to change and He saw somebody who had the

better potential to bring him where they needed

to be It did, though. Financially, it has. But

financially, it has the we and more importantly,

the DS all came under Iwata's tutelage. So I

mean, and then there's the Wii U. But Nintendo

was a card company. They made cards playing cards

like, well, the Hanafuda cards, the kind of Japanese.

I can't even describe what type of game it is.

I've tried to teach myself to play it. I got

a set through the Nintendo Fun Club collecting

points thing, and it doesn't make any sense to

me. I don't get it. I need to find somebody who

plays it. But either way, that's where they got

their start with the playing cards and then slowly

got into toys and toy manufacturing. And then

we have Yamouchi to thank for saying, what about

those electronic video game things? Yeah. And

he actually started pushing them into the direction

of gaming and They got into They did start with

like the smaller like credit card style like,

you know The play and watches that that kind

of style gaming but then they they broke really

big in the the arcade industry with Bring introducing

Donkey Kong and Mario Brothers into the arcade.

I think that he was the one who hired The I mean

the Famicom Super Nintendo and 64 Gamecube all

came under his presidency with Nintendo He had

a hand in responsibility and you know Dare I

say it the golden age of gaming I mean, it's

it's the stuff we grew up with. I mean, it's

the Nintendo Entertainment System, the Famicom.

It's so many memories. Why is it any time I go

into like a Nintendo loving memory thing linked

to the past is always the first thing that pops

into my head every single time. I can hear the

theme music now. I just have such fun, happy,

happy memories. And it always comes back to that

game. That game is like my heart. Blackened and

shriveled. No. When I used to have feelings,

that was my heart linked to the past. And now

it's cold and dead inside like Perfect Dark Zero.

Oh, well, that's dead on the outside, too. So

does. Does anybody have any fond memories of

the work that Yamauchi did? Any feelings that

they want to share about the golden heyday of

Nintendo? The Super Nintendo was great. I mean,

I had an NES, but gaming for me didn't really

become a thing until the Super Nintendo and the

N64. Yeah, like those two consoles kind of solidified

myself as a gamer. Yeah, that's without those.

I can't. I don't know what I would be doing now.

You know, I don't know if I would still be playing

games. I don't know if video games would be the

same. I mean, it's not like. I wasn't I had access

to a Genesis and stuff like that, but I didn't

own one. My cousins did Genesis. The Genesis

games just didn't feel. It could be because of

the controller or other things with their games,

but I never felt like they... I never felt like

they were as good as a Nintendo game. I don't

think it really mattered which one it was. I

mean, there were Sega games that I enjoyed, right?

But I... not enough to make me want or ask my

parents for a console for Christmas or anything

like that. It was always Nintendo. It was Excitebike.

It was Mario. It was Duck Hunt. It was Donkey

Kong Country from Rare. It was Metroid Prime.

It was the Metroid series. And those are the

games that I grew up with that they're the reasons

that I like certain games that I like now. I

think it was under his watch that we got two

of the most influential video game designers

of all time hired. I mean, it was under him.

He hired, of course, Miyamoto and Gunpei, the

guy who invented the D -pad for all of us, and

among other things, Kit Icarus and Metroid. Those

were his babies, too. But between that and I

think the air of... this needs to be perfect

before we'll release it on our system that kind

of quality control I'm sure came from his level

down throughout the whole company and I think

that is what resulted in Nintendo when you played

a game for Nintendo even if it wasn't first party

there was there was at least some amount of quality

there play control the buttons did what they

were supposed to do they reacted the way you

thought they should there wasn't did I already

say delay there wasn't a delay I think he was

responsible for a lot of things, and you know,

I hate to admit it, but I think Iwata coming

in, yes, he made some good business decisions

with the DS and the Wii, but that turn away from

where the rest of the industry was going, I don't

know, was that the right decision for Nintendo?

Are they going to still be relevant? They're

still rolling in money, they could fail two hardware

generations and still be sitting on their mountain

of Wii money. But I think we lost something when

he stepped down as president. And I don't think

Nintendo, if he were young and active, I don't

think Nintendo would be in the state they're

in now without Iwata having taken over. Yeah,

I mean, I like I like the DS. I mean, I didn't

like the first generation of the DS. I've liked

it since the DS light. I like my three DS. I

liked the Wii U, but I got it before there were

any games for it. And now I can't buy another

one. But I don't know, I just, there was something

great about the Super Nintendo and just, and

even the N64, I remember being super excited

for the N64 because it was 64 bits. um never

mind twice as many as a ps1 yeah never never

mind that the jaguar had you know had the same

thing supposedly but i i remember um getting

you know a system on christmas in 96 and uh setting

up um a little cockpit in in my bedroom and playing

uh shadows of the empire Awesome like I it was

in you know obviously there's only like what

three or four flying levels in the entire thing

but no I had my little spaceship thing and I

just I don't know I I liked I've always liked

Nintendo controllers I always felt like they

got that but going well going just real quick

side note here because a while back when we talked

about we talked about Nintendo early on And we

brought up the d -pad and we had a comment or

I think it was TV's Mr. Neil So that the d -pad

was actually the name d -pad actually comes from

Sega And it's because they had the a B and C

buttons The pad and D was the pad Do you know

anything about that Joe? I have heard nothing

About that and I would believe it if it were

actually labeled that but I've always understood

or been led to believe that the D was for directional.

And at the end of the day, though, it doesn't

matter who named it. It was on the game and watches

first and eventually on the NES controller. I

think that gives it to him. The only other company

that gets the D pad the way that Nintendo does

is Sony. Sony kind of splits it up right into

four buttons. Well, yeah, but it's four buttons

because they can't they can't have the same look.

Yeah, right Isn't it like if they connect those

buttons then they have to give them money, right?

Yeah, something like that Yeah, Nintendo owns

it, but I've heard that they uh It's been so

long since that pen came out that I guess either

it is now or soon Everyone can have it. I'm not

sure life. I think if it's something like it's

renewing or using the patent. It's not going

to expire Like a book publisher, if they don't

publish it for 25 years, it goes open license.

But if they publish it again in 10 years, it

renews. But a lot of companies have just paid

Nintendo the royalty and put a D -pad on their

system. I mean, does Microsoft? I think Microsoft's

would count, even though it's got the realm.

I don't think Microsoft does, actually. Well,

I think their D -pad is entirely different, and

that's why it feels funky. Like when you. Yeah,

it's almost it's like a. It's like a, it's like

a joystick with a D pad. Yeah. It's more of a

joystick. It's actually balanced on a center

point. You're not actually like clicking a button

yet. You're moving a stick. That's more like

an Atari stick kind of like an actual joystick.

Um, what, what is your favorite, uh, accessory

like Nintendo product or accessory or anything?

Rumble pack on the N64. NDS advantage. That's

a tough question, man. What's an NES advantage?

What? It was the arcade joystick. Oh, OK. Yeah.

The big thing with the two. OK. Yeah. That's

the that's the Ghostbusters 2 thing, right? What?

Yes, that they piloted the Statue of Liberty

with. OK, thank you. All right. I honestly I

really like the Game Boy camera. Oh, I use the

snot out of that. I like I even like the little

like Polaroid stickers. The printout stickers

that they did. I don't know. Wow. I really liked

the Gameboy Pocket. The silver one, I didn't

really care for all the other colors, because

it was the first time they put like a black and

white screen in it instead of the green. I'd

say if you ever get a chance to mess with a oh,

God, what they call it, the Gameboy Pocket that

came out in Japan, the Gameboy Lite. Came out

in Japan only that's a that's a real nice lit

up old Gameboy Hmm It looks like one of those

green screen LED watches from the 80s. Oh It's

a giant screen and it's awesome. It's brilliant

sounds really neat I'll show it to you next time

you're up Hmm Let's see, I don't have a favorite

accessory except I would really like to Well,

I wish that they would have let rare get away

with ejecting the rumble pack and putting it

back in to reload your gun in GoldenEye like

they wanted to. Except they were afraid it was

going to break and they were probably right.

Probably would have somebody would have snapped

something. I really like the N64 controller.

Me too. I don't know what it is being. It looked

awkward. The three. I mean, I don't know what

it was about it. I mean, I like the. I like the...

I honestly wish that when they did the GameCube

controller, I wish they just would have lobbed

off the D -pad from the NCC4 controller. I wish

they still would have had the trigger under your

finger and like the C -stick. I really like...

or the C -buttons. I like the C -buttons. It

made it... Like the first time like playing first

-person shooters on a console it was it was really

nice because the Believe the C buttons became

with games like Turok and stuff. They became

like the WASD he's Yeah, look up look down and

yeah, you yeah, you'd hold yeah, you'd hold the

you'd switch and use right hand on the center

Left hand on the left, right? Yep. Yep so Dana

you found some information about that D button

Yes, Sega coined the term D button to describe

the pads using the term when describing the controllers

for the for the Mega Drive and Instruction manuals

and another literature. So the coin D button

not necessarily D pad, but They did refer to

it as a D button at one point in time. So So

yeah learn something new Yep Did they? Was it

the same type of Sega game? Yep. Oh, okay. Yep.

Yep. Yep Yeah, they they may have coined the

phrase but they didn't own the rights to it.

So Does anybody like wouldn't you think in Nintendo

and classic Nintendo like it just what's the

first Like when you say Nintendo in our entertainment

system, what's the first game that pops in your

mind blowing into the entertainment system? Well,

that was your game. That was that was a game.

That was the game. He did that more than play

the game sometimes. Well, there you go, Sean.

Sadly, Top Gun. Oh, man. Top Gun. That game got

so much easier when I realized you only needed

to hold down the speed up or slow down buttons.

I could never make it off of the never make it

off the aircraft. I can never land off. Yeah,

all fine. Never land one successfully. Not once.

I remember renting it and I'm like, all right,

here I go. And then in the ocean. Oh, man. I

can do it. And I was like, screw this. I'm taking

this back to the rental store. No, I can get

I could take off just fine. But as soon as you

came to a part where you had to land, I'm like,

well, it's automatic. So was it? You could you

could mess up taking off. I think it was automatic.

It lets you control it once you're in the air.

What about Top Gun 2? I think I bought that.

I don't remember playing it yet. I'm 100 % sure

it's automatic taking off, at least on Top Gun

1. Joe, what's the first game that comes to your

mind when you think Nintendo Entertainment System?

Mario, probably thinking Mario 3. For some odd

reason, mine, Burger Time. I'd have to agree

with Joe, though, in all seriousness. The Mario,

because that's the game that came with almost

every Nintendo, was Super Mario Bros. and Duck

Hunt. I mean... I can't remember being more...

Well, I guess Grand Theft Auto V, probably. But

I can't think of a time I was more excited for

a game after having seen Wizard and how awesome

that Mario 3 footage looked that I wanted that

game. That's the only game from that era I remember

getting at... the Kmart down the street from

our house and taking home and god that thing

must have been 60 or 70 bucks man okay yeah i

remember like my parents went and bought Super

Mario Brothers 3 and woke my ass up at like midnight

and we're like hey we got this for you and i'm

like what like i don't even like i don't my my

parents insisted i asked for all this stuff and

i don't remember asking for any of it they they

insisted i asked for Super Mario Brothers 3 and

so they went out at midnight and got it for me

from the local Kmart as well Um, and what was

k -mart doing open at midnight? They did it for

super mario Weird, um Or at least you know when

I was you know, what it wasn't one of that game

come out when I was like 10 12 Like that's it

felt like midnight. Anyways, uh I just remember

being woken up with ice cream and here play this

game for a little while then go back to bed.

Um Yeah, here's a bread and ice cream go get

sugared up play this game And then you're going

to go to school. Hey, this is the kid. I'm the

kid that used to leave their parents like runaway

ordered me a Lego set. Jesus, man, really? Yeah,

no, I they you know, we would our bedrooms were

because bedrooms were upstairs. And so was the

parents bedroom. But, you know, kids go to bed

for the parents. And some nights I would write

a little note saying, if you don't order me like

and I'd have like the name of the set along with

the serial number. and I'd go and sneak into

their bedroom and I'd put it on their bed so

they'd see it when they go to bed. They never

came to talk to me about them, but within a week

I'd come home from school and the Lego set would

be sitting on my bed. You're a terrible child.

Yeah, I am. Yeah, holy shit. No wonder you don't

want kids. Is there anything like you? There's

other reasons for that. Oh, yes, there are. And

it's the reason I was drinking tonight. But I

know I. Yeah, and they insisted that I wanted

a Super Nintendo, but I don't remember wanting

a Super Nintendo. I can't remember like Super

Nintendo being a thing until it showed up like

under the Christmas tree. And then after that.

I remember selling my Nintendo in all my games.

to pay for my Super Nintendo system. Luckily,

I've never had to do that. Add in the Ann Arbor

News. That's how I sold my Nintendo. I've never

I've never sold video game stuff to buy other

video game stuff. Well, Lottie freaking die for

you. But you know what? I have nothing to show

for it. So. Other than shelves that are full

of, you know, games. Not as many games as I would

like. I don't know. Oh, boo, frickity -hoo. Why

don't you write him another note, tell him you're

going to run away. I already have. I still have

my original copies of Secret of Mana and Chrono

Trigger. Nice. Which is amazing to me because

the battery backups and those things still work.

Most things that I have that have a battery in

them have gone dead already. And these games

are like, almost 20 years old? Um... It's oppressive.

Do you know anything about how that stuff works,

Joe? Yeah, there's a battery soldered in it.

Well, yeah, but... Okay, thank you. No way. Thank

you for the fucking show. Science! I don't know

of too many batteries that last for 20 years.

It's Nintendo's quality control. They probably

put the most expensive, highest quality battery

they could ever put in there. There's only one

game out of everything that I own that the battery

backup is bad on, and that one is Mario Lost

Levels, the Super Nintendo cartridge that had

Mario 1 -2 -3 and then Japanese Mario 2. That

one is fried. And it was fried pretty quickly

after I got it, so I think it was just defected

from factory, and I haven't bothered to... Put

it in there because I can beat all those games

in one sitting anyway, except for lost levels

where I can't even beat the second level. Well,

you want to have anything they want to add? I

mean, I just I wish. I wish Nintendo would go

back to being the Nintendo that we all enjoyed.

Oh, stop. No, I'm serious. Me too. Like. Mean

I wish it would go that way, but it's like I

wish it was like the hate. It's never gonna be

like it was But it could be But it can't be they're

not gonna go back to exact same business model

You got to keep looking towards the future and

you got to keep changing things Well, I don't

want the same business model, but I want the

same attitude pointed at the new business model

The problem is is you keep reminiscing about

how you want things to be the same, and then

we sit around and bitch about the fact that,

man, all they do is come out with fucking Mario

and Zelda games. They don't do anything new,

which is already the problem. Yeah, I mean, how

long has it been since we had an actual Metroid

game? Yeah. Well, they're scared of giving those

properties away. I mean, that happened with Zelda.

They got burned on that happened with Metroid

Other M. They're probably going to keep that

in -house for a very long time and sit on it

to people for not. Yep. See, I would I would

jump. I think at this point, if like we've talked

about this before, if we got a Metroid or a Metroid

game that was like Zombie U, I would jump at

that if they had a If they came out with another,

like, internally developed Star Fox game that

was actually flying and not beating small critters

over the head with the staff, I would jump at

that. Like, I would justify, holy hell, the Wii

U. I would justify that to Ali. Or not. I would

just go buy one. Like, regardless of what she

thought. I don't think Nintendo could release

a game. Mario, Zelda anything game that would

make me want to go by the system. I need to see

a change in the entire Direction I want to see

what Nintendo would do building a real online

system with like, you know multiplayer games

intended for adults I want to know what could

because you know if they sat down to do it it

would frickin work And it would I like the weverse

or the me verse or whatever. No, that can stay

I guess in that way, but I mean If Nintendo did

a proper online matchmaking type of thing instead

of the ridiculous friend code garbage Well, if

they built their own network, it would be they

have that in the Wii U the problem is they lost

their audience Like there are no friend codes

anymore with the Wii U Isn't there one friend

code that goes across the whole system? Maybe

but I don't think you have to actually exchange

it I'm not entirely sure how how it works. I

never saw a friend code when I set up my system

But you also didn't have any friends who had

a Wii U, right? Well, yeah, but I didn't. I mean,

you can follow people, though. Like, you can

add people. I mean, you can follow people, like,

on Twitter? I think so. I can't remember. Like,

and you're right, Joe, I didn't dive, like, headlong

into it. But a lot of the stuff, like, they refined

a lot of it because they heard all the complaints

from the Wii and from the DS. I don't think they

heard all the complaints or that system would

actually be a next -gen system and not a current

-gen system. OK. OK, but now we're talking about

two different things. So all right. So viewer

questions for next week. What game could Nintendo

possibly make that would get you to buy a Wii

U? And then also. No, no, don't answer now. We'll

talk about it next week. Let's let's throw it

out to them. I was a joke anyway. Nobody wants

that. And also remember, you can send us your

feedback on the forums at www .geekcastradio

.com and Uh, you can also email us at feedback

at geekcastradio .com. Last week's question we

did pose, which is what next gen games are you

getting or what council are you getting? Um,

or both. And, uh, as of right now, nobody really

responded. So we'll respond. Um, Joe isn't getting

a next gen council as of right now. Um, Unless

I do really well at the Geek Stuff garage sale.

Yeah. So what games would you pick up at launch

in the launch window? In the launch window? Watch

Dogs is probably the thing I'm most excited for,

and I'm only kind of excited for that. I'm still

waiting for my last Guardian to come out someday.

There's been more talk about it. They said the

project isn't dead. And when I go went free on

PlayStation Network, PlayStation Plus, that that

sends a signal to me, too. I think they're trying

something there. And Shadow of Colossus was free

a month ago. What was it? I missed that there.

We already own it. But yeah, the Sony's Tokyo

Game Show Conference was last Tuesday when Grand

Theft Auto came out. And they said that I saw

a really funny tweet. It was like Sony could

squash all of this Grand Theft Auto media. coverage

by just getting up on stage and going the last

Guardian and then dropping the mic and walking

off. Yeah, I don't think they could do that because

there's probably 20 people in the world who want

that game. I think there's more than that. Yeah,

I don't think there's Grand Theft Auto numbers.

It would be. But they're talking about squashing

the the media coverage. They can squash it. They

could. Yeah, they could do the media coverage

like like the they're saying like announcing

last Guardian with a release date would push

Grand Theft Auto off the headlines. that regardless

of how many people want it just the you know,

the the games journalism would Enthusiast press

would grab it and run with it Shawn what games

are you planning on getting at launch? In the

launch window definitely watch dogs. I'm very

interested for that game Have you pre -ordered

yet what have you heard of my system now, yeah,

nope, nope When I have the money, a lot of things

come first. Yeah. Was Watch Dogs it or? No, Watch

Dogs, Battlefield, Call of Duty, you know, pretty

much everybody. Like, there's nothing like that.

I'm going to say that's crazy different than

anything else. Mike, what are you planning on

picking up? Well, what I'm curious about, though,

Sean, is you're not you're you haven't pre -ordered

one yet. Are you still going to pick up like

Battlefield 4 like on current gen? I think I'm

gonna wait Okay, just because I I know they're

doing the upsell $10 thing. Mm -hmm And it's

it's if enough of my friends are playing it on

this system. I might do that But as of right

now, I'm not planning on it Yeah, I For me, I

think well obviously PlayStation 4 because you

know, we talked about Dan and I having raging

hard on earlier raging Big old owners. Mine was.

Anyways, had a hard time. Yeah, Danner's was

throbbing. Had a hard time driving after Danner

said that his PlayStation would show up on the

15th instead of the 22nd. I well, obviously,

I've got Ghost pre -ordered for both Danner and

I. I've got Ali's going to pick up Assassin's

Creed. I'm going to pick up Watch Dogs. I have

like a whole slew of games I'm going to get.

I'm going to grab Need for Speed Rivals. um marvel

ultimate marvel i'm sorry lego marvel superheroes

um that's uh that's probably it because i don't

see how i'm going to finish like two open world

games and like a you know the multi and a multiplayer

shooter um i feel like that's going to be enough

to tide me over until february when infamous

second son shows up yeah um and then you know

of course in the spring there'll be destiny and

division so Oh, yeah. But I'm curious, though,

Daner, do you like I don't know if you understood

what I was saying, that PlayStation Network is

running one of their promotions again, where

every fifty dollars you spend gets you ten dollars

in PlayStation Network money. Oh, no, no, no.

I understood completely what you're saying. OK,

I just I I just. I guess I have absolutely no

interest in playing ghosts before. The new system

comes out. Well, maybe I'll do it. Maybe I'll

just do it myself since I would really like the

digital copy for the PlayStation 4. I'll just

send you a physical copy of it. Well, I'm fine

with it. I'd rather have the digital copy for

the PS4. I just don't want a digital copy for

my PS3 is my issue. Well, I'm curious to see

it because I want to be able to see something.

It'd be interesting to have a game that actually

bridges the gap. And see the difference between

them. Yes. OK, that's fine. We can experiment.

That's kind of how I'm looking at. I may have

to like send you like a $60 PlayStation Network

gift card or something somehow. Yeah. So you

can preorder it on your system. I don't know,

we'll figure it out. But what Sony's doing is

essentially, you know, they've got that $10 upgrade

program for certain games. Sony's kind of taking

that one step further. And if you preorder, you

can preorder Ghost right now in October. Anything

that you... Anytime you spend more than $50 on

the PlayStation Store, they give you $10 in credit.

Before October 29th. Right. But one of the games

that you can pre -order is Call of Duty Ghost.

And then Call of Duty Ghost also has the $10

upgrade thing for the PlayStation 4. So essentially

it'd be free. Yes, exactly. Two copies of the

same thing for free. Let me rephrase that. Free

to upgrade, not free free. Right. Because if

it was free free, it'd be fucking awesome. The

reason we're excited about the digital copy is

that way anytime someone wants to jump online

and you literally you're on do it. I don't have

to go switching this. I don't have to go loading.

No, nothing. You're just you go. Yep. Exactly.

You get your game invite and you're in the game

playing. Oh, the seamlessness is going to be

awesome. I think it's going to be it's going

to be boner. Inspiring Elliot. I wonder if we

made the decision that co -op games online, online

style games. that her and I are both going to

play will be purchased digitally, which means

essentially any multiplayer online game that

I have, I'll be able to go like, boom, I'm in,

you know, no waiting for me to get up and walk

five feet to switch the disc. Lazy bastard. I

am going to say it. So right now I'm planning

on. AC four. Mm hmm. And ghosts, of course, and

watch dogs. And probably going to pick up a LEGO

Marvel for me and Grayden to play. See, Assassins,

that's one of those ones. I might get that current

gen. I don't know yet. Well, you can always...

AC4 has got a... Oh, never mind. I was going

to say there's an upgrade deal for AC4, but it

has to be PS3 to PS4 and UB 360 too. Yeah, but

no, but... The problem with that game is... A

lot of the games that I'm definitely waiting

for are going to be multiplayer games. Whereas

that one, the multiplayer is fun and all, but

I never really played it too much. Yeah, I don't.

Yeah. And, uh, you know, of course the, the,

you know, the, whatever the loading will be better

on the next systems, the graphics will be better,

but not to the point that it made the game unenjoyable

on a current gen. Yeah. So that, that's one of

those ones that like watch dogs that might, that

one's on the fence for me too, to be honest with

you. Because like the only exception is I think

if you get the current gen watchdogs all of the

tablet stuff doesn't happen, right? Or am I confusing

that? I think I might be confusing that with

Battlefield 4. I think it might be Battlefield

4. I mean, they haven't said, well, I don't know.

Honestly, I'm not sure. Which, what are we talking

about? Watchdogs. Watchdogs. The tablet stuffer?

Yeah, but the tablet stuff for Battlefield 4.

If you get the current gen system, that's not

in the game. Where like the commander can send

in strikes and order stuff around, that's just

cut from that part of the game. They're not going

to try to make the app on the mobile platforms

work with two different versions of the game.

I can't blame them. I'm totally with you on there.

That would be a... Nightmare the other the other

thing with this upgrade stuff is regardless if

you're going Xbox one or 360 to Xbox one or PlayStation

4 The single -player game saves don't carry over.

It's your multiplayer progress that carries over.

Yeah So that was came up. Well, I I kind of assumed

that's what it was but that actually was confirmed

today on Kotaku Plus there's definitely there's

definitely games, current games coming out still

that I'm excited and waiting for. So. Well, I

don't think there's anything after Grand Theft

Auto five, unless I'm really making an egregious

error beyond ex ex com enemy within. No beyond

two souls. No. But speaking of the current generation.

Please remember that we are doing our seven generation

awards are. generation awards as you will. We're

still accepting entries. On the forums you can

find the list of questions and I reiterate the

rules of please pick three for each category

with the exception of the council question. Also

Be as descriptive as possible when when talking

about the games if you mean Call of Duty 4 write

Call of Duty 4 if you mean Modern Warfare 2 write

Modern Warfare 2 Don't put Call of Duty down

as a general answer. You're talking about Assassin's

Creed games specify, please the more specific

you are the more specific I can be in the voting

and the recording of the uh and tabulating of

the answers and then the nice use of tabulating

yes and then the uh we will reveal the winners

the week of the ps4 launch no week before because

the week the week before we'll do the week of

you guys won't be here right we won't be because

it's a wednesday and it launches on a Friday.

Oh, does it? Yeah. Yeah. See, like, since I'm

not going to be getting my lunch, I really don't

care. Well, this has been Off the Cuff, episode

29. I've been Danner. You can find me on Twitter

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Oh, my gosh. You've got two tweets. He does.

That's more than I thought I said. That's awesome.

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belong to us Until next week all your base are

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a penis into an asshole that's literally what

the game is uh i believe that i believe that

is called ramming in war thunder and i get accused

of that a lot um but then i have to kindly remind

the other person that it takes two to ram you

could have turned it anytime What's the guy's

name from Nintendo because I'm totally gonna

fuck that up I wrote I wrote it down somewhere

Sorry in my mic give me a second. Oh my god The

unsober one tell us the name of the Japanese

dude I'm looking it up on Twitter because I know

I tweeted his name not like an hour ago. I had

it in the Facebook chat. Hiroshi Yama Yama Yama

Yamauchi Hiroshi Yamauchi Hiroshi Yamauchi Yamauchi

Yamauchi mama. You're a bad person. I'm a horrible

person, but I'm totally saying that when you

say I think it is Yamauchi. So I bought my three

terabyte drive the other day on eBay. Showed

up this morning already. What's that for? I needed

a big storage unit of some sort, just to store

things, you know, for storing. And they had a

Monday, they have like a Monday mystery deals

on the eBay and they had a brand new Western

Digital three terabyte for 95 bucks. That's a

really good deal. So what are you going to do

with three terabytes? I don't download a fuckload

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What do I do with the other terabyte? I think

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and discussion based podcast join your host TFG

one Mike and The rest of the GCR and crew as

we make our way through the comics. We are reading

inside mother I was gonna say like are you trying

to a William Shatner? That's the middle