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Mae Young Classic Tournament Breakdown

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First, representing this week in key, and from
parts unknown, he is Mike the Birdman. of the
inaugural Mae Young Classic was chock full of
incredible action. 32 athletes kicked off this
tournament. Only 16 could advance. For the defeated,
there were no moral victories. Their dreams of
becoming the inaugural Mae Young Classic champion
ended in anguish. Now, as round two begins, the
competition heats up even further. One step closer
to being champion, and yet still just a three
count or tap out away from the end of the road.
Tonight, the second generation powerhouse, Rachel
Evers, faces Mae Young protege, Abby Lathe. The
redemption story of Serena Deeb continues against
the Scottish powerhouse, Piper Niven. The veteran
Mercedes Martinez is primed to knock off Mexican
legend, Princesa Suey. And the supremely athletic
Bianca Belair takes on the sensational Kyrie
Sane. History continues as the Mae Young classic,
Sweet 16, begins right now. Hello and welcome
to mayhem mics. This is episode 29. We're getting
back to the Mae Young classic This is gonna be
part two of our Mae Young classic episode coverage
thing. We're gonna cover the final four episodes
or five actually Of the Mae Young classic tournament.
I'm of course TFU and Mike joining me is Ryan
and Flo Merkley. Hello, sir. Yay. Yay wrestling
Yeah, let's see if we remember any of these people
Hey, I just watched this. Yeah, you're okay.
I'm in trouble. I'm okay. You're in trouble That's
fine. I got a good memory so in issue 14 of the
Punisher he takes Shit, that's a wrong show Yeah,
I had like I know we had done the first four
episodes the first Round or whatever it was.
I'm like, okay, so we'll do the other four I
figured it was gonna be four not five and I go
to look at it I'm like episodes five to nine.
I thought it was like five to eight, but then
I realized Okay, I mean you could watch five
to eight but you're not gonna get much closure
And then they sort of did a special Bit too,
but anyway, we'll talk about that later. Yeah,
I didn't even watch that. I watched the beginning
You know, I watched all of episode 9 obviously,
but like the aftermath after we'll get to it
now then and we'll just talk about it now quickly
I mean one of the things they did was a lot of
the people who were at well not a lot of most
of the people who were out early They put them
in a tag match, you know three on three tag and
that was a smart thing a It's You know we talked
about this in the first round man jazzy gabbert
was a favorite was a favorite of everybody She
was a favorite of ours And she was oh the people
were chanting for the entire match and then at
the end Police sign jazzy was the chance everybody
gave hunter And it's interesting we'll get to
this is in a bit of the aftermath, but they did
try to sign her but she needed a really major
neck surgery it turns out so they went to sign
her then she had to pass their physical and it
was discovered she had a severe problem with
her neck and she needed major surgery to correct
it which she has now had as of only a couple
weeks ago and yeah i mean hopefully she can recover
from that because i mean A, hopefully she's fine
from it, because apparently it's, you know, really
serious. And then B, hopefully she gets really
lucky and is able to continue her career. So
she was on the Edge and Christian podcast to
talk about this, but it's just a really sad sort
of ending if this is it, because she finally
got her dream, which is to get signed to the
WWE. And suddenly, you know, she can't wrestle
because of injury and yeah, that's not wow. Yeah,
so hopefully there's a happy ending there. Uh,
she has overcome or, you know, I highly, I don't
usually recommend other podcasts, but I highly
recommend that episode of the edge and Christian
podcast. Her story is amazing. Like it should
be a movie and it's unbelievable what she's already.
overcome to get there so i have no doubt she's
gonna work hard at uh getting back so anyway
yeah that was one of the sort of things in the
aftermath we've it's funny because in the last
couple weeks there have been a handful of signings
from people who were about to talk about yeah
like they signed candice laray um kyrie yeah
well she's she was signed she's just Hasn't been
around for a bit because of an injury. She's
another one that got suffered some injuries in
this tournament in fact Then yeah, that's we've
talked about it before in the normal podcast
that man WWE is not having good luck with injuries
women it's yeah like yeah we mentioned before
like Dean's out for like nine months with a severe
injury to his arm you got Joe was apparently
out for even longer than they thought originally
and just with a random foot injury you know we
mentioned Cass before where he was about to maybe
make it big and then he tears his knee it's just
been a really crap year for them now in injuries
Yeah, and this pretty much started last year
It's not an easy thing to do that's why I always
get frustrated You know people like to laugh
at wrestling and say ah, it's not real that kind
of thing I mean, maybe the endings aren't, you
know, it's predetermined. Sorry if that ruined
it for anybody out there. Uh, the endings might
be predetermined, but man, the athleticism and
everything else is not. And the number of injuries
and serious injuries, you know, a lot of these
people are, you know, they're the working and
everything's getting faster and faster. You look
at a guy like Dean. And how quickly he does a
lot of the moves and that kind of thing and bouncing
around the ring and everything Yeah, that's gonna
take a toll on him. Yeah That's gonna not just
him, but that would take a toll on anybody and
it's funny cuz you look at the women and We just
add to the row rumble and you watch stuff like
this the may on classic and The women work pretty
much just as quickly as the men now and then
you look back at some of those old attitude era
matches you know the two minute ones where maybe
there's two moves yeah in two minutes and how
quickly that's gotten and just or how quickly
sorry it's changed and how much quicker everyone
is and you know episode five we start off with
abby lathe versus rachel everes everes was probably
the not the best match, we'll say, in the first
round. And then you watch the two of them work
here and it's much quicker and everybody's much
better. So I mean, just another example of everybody
works really hard in this and it's a pretty quick
match. Like it ends fairly quickly. It's only
a five minute match. So the one thing I noticed
about this and I obviously they have to keep
to a certain time limit. As I've watched throughout
episode five to nine, well I don't think they
said it in episode nine, but I could be wrong.
I just watched that just like right before we
hit the record button, so I'm pretty sure they
didn't say that. But episode five to eight, the
referee or the ring announcer or whoever had
said, oh, this is a match to determine blah blah
blah, it's a timed match, not exceeding 20 minutes
or 25 minutes or whatever. And I'm like, really?
like you actually say that like they don't see
that stuff in the main roster yeah they did for
each of these i guess it's just because i don't
really know why it is i don't really know why
it is either i mean maybe it's more for the audience
uh in the arena but i mean most of these matches
are i think some of the max of like the longest
matches are only like 10 minutes or so yeah in
the quarterfinals and yeah the longest match
is around 10 I think yeah I clocked it in at
10 minutes in this on this episode and that's
the longest match so yeah and they've got a 20
minute time limit I don't know maybe it's so
the people there don't think they're gonna you
know they film all these together so maybe so
the people in the arena don't think they could
get out at 2 a .m. I'm really tired. Don't make
me cheer for anyone Yeah, and some of the some
of the chants and cheers were so so cool I just
absolutely what I love about this is again, you
know women have always been in the WWE But as
you said most of the time it's been the model
era or the Diva era or whatever You know stupid
belts with like the butterfly and yeah But I'm
a girl and I can wrestle like That's not what
most of them fought to get there for You know,
but it's like, you know now they're taking it
really really serious and like you said last
time and you're saying now that some of these
people are already signed with WWE some of them
aren't and Or at the time that this was filmed
and shown on the WWE Network is obviously Classic
has been over for a while now because Kyrie just
came up or she came up to main roster again out
of NXT Yeah, she's still in NXT yeah But yeah,
she comes pops up for why I mean the you know,
the rumble was a special scenario They wanted
to get people from everywhere. So yeah Yeah So
for the fifth episode though Abby Lathes Defeated
Rachel Evers in the aforementioned first match
which was a solid match Evers has a much better
showing than she did the first time around they
just Everybody meshed a lot better this time.
Yeah Lathes one that's signed by the WWE. She's
been around there for NXT for a bit Shows up
once in a while Yeah, I like the match I like
Abby's moves more than I like Rachel but like
I Just preferred Abby's style more I think Just
some of the hits that any of these women's women
have taken in this in this tournament have just
been amazing We'll get to some of the really
really big ones a little bit later in the later
episodes, but wow Then you had Piper Niven versus
Serena Serena deep I Really like Piper I did
not expect Piper to have the accent she has when
I first saw her. Oh, yeah So Piper is a Larger
woman she in fact has some of the same moves
that Owens does For example to use that but man,
she's got a a look to her that very few other
Female or male wrestlers have she's one of the
ones that I'm still amazed Hasn't been signed
but then you look at so she and Tony Storm are
good friends in real life and I suspect they
both do really well the independent tours because
she they both wrestle seemingly everywhere and
So I think they just I don't know WWE need would
need a really good offer also I mean they're
both very young so neither of them are signed
which is unfortunate because they both have great
looks that are different than a lot of the other
stars and Timing or a financial or whatever looking
at Piper in this match and looking at her in
the first round the first stuff like she reminds
me at this point of a slightly different version
of Nia Jax but the one thing I'll say is Watching
some of her moves or a move set and I'm not trying
to you know pick on Nia Jax or anything uh but
Niven has a lot of strength yeah she does and
you know Jax a lot of her moves are quicker ones
where she doesn't necessarily lift people up
and whereas Piper does and you forget how strong
some of these women are one of the better examples
was we talked about it in the rumble they had
a moment where Beth Phoenix lifted up Nia Jax
yeah Beth pretended like it was a big deal But
she talked about actually her husband Edge talked
about it later that Beth has no problems picking
up an Ajax You know she she had to make it look
good for the camera And that's why somebody like
Piper almost reminds me of a Beth Phoenix in
that she's ridiculously strong You look at her
and you kind of forget about it But I mean her
finisher is a mission Oku driver where she has
like no issues lifting people up and just Slamming
them down. Yeah, she could take any of the They
probably lift me up and throw me down like Okay.
Well, I was gonna say You know, she could probably
take any of the men yeah, I know mixed Matt mix
matches are not really That's another thing in
WWE for a variety of reasons Other places have
done it though and some of them have won like
jazzy gabberts competed in mixed matches She's
also does MMA and that kind of thing though.
Yeah, we've mentioned before that Oscar's done
miss mixed matches Oscar could probably go I
we've mentioned this before she could beat the
crap out of me easily So Piper Niven won this
one and we talked about it before Sarita Deeb's
very good. I'd like to see her as sort of a trainer
Right, you know as we move as WWE moves forward.
She's got experience with them and that kind
of thing. It's kind of a Just kind of a feel
-good story Yeah, absolutely I wasn't sure who
I was gonna root for here Don't remember off
the top one. This is where I'm gonna suck in
this episode because I remember the first episode
We did with the first four episodes of this,
but I don't remember everything about it So I
don't remember who she faced and I know they
showed it Before this match, but I don't remember
who Serena faced in the first round off the top
of my head I have the notes somewhere here, but
anyway keep going Vanessa born. Oh, that's right.
I wanted born, but yeah see I liked Serena, but
I liked the opponent better, and that's the same
case here. I like Piper a little more than Serena
in this. Serena had some great, great moves,
just with Piper's, not necessarily speed, but
her power, and because of her size, I'm like,
why are you not throwing her around like a ragdoll?
Like, seriously. By the way, uh, I should probably
look stuff up before, uh, I do stuff cause Serena
is actually signed as of two days ago to be,
to be a trainer on WWE. And that's a good story.
Cause, uh, we talked about it last time that
she, she got called up when she was younger or
had got the call to WWE. She did the straight
edge society stuff. If you remember, we talked
again, we talked about it in the first episode,
but. a I mean like a lot of us when we're younger
didn't understand the opportunity she had and
didn't make the most of it behind the scenes
and that kind of thing and just kind of fell
off the wagon in terms of doing the things she
needed to do and now she's back and I'm really
happy she's a trainer because she's got a great
story that I think will help a lot of the younger
wrestlers as they keep Going up and I mean she
debuted with WWE way back in 2010 and Didn't
last the full year And so yeah, it's nice that
she's Got the opportunity again. It's a it's
a good story much like some of the other ones
like Brian Kendrick from the Cruiserweight Classic
getting signed by WWE and getting another chance
to get back to where he was so that's good yeah
that makes me happy yeah absolutely and see I
don't even like I don't know like I said it was
2010 she was part of CM Punk straight -edge society
oh okay yeah I I I know I've been watching since
WrestleMania 23 yeah 23 so that was Yeah, I don't
know I've yeah, I can't do math because it's
been a really long crappy week so Barely know
where I am If I didn't have notes for this I'd
be completely lost See every once in a while
I prepare for these it's just far too rare So
anyway, yeah, I mean Piper wins the match deep
Like I said, I'm happy about the end of this
story now that I know she did get signed. That's
terrific. And yeah, as for who is pulling for,
I'm not sure. Like I said, you know, she's, Deeb's
a great story. Uh, I love the look of Piper though.
I'd love to see her in WWE, but like also, like
I said before, I mean, she's young. She's got
a lot of time to get there. Yeah, she has. The
next match we have Mercedes Martinez Versus Suhey,
thank you because I completely because I almost
wanted to call it Sujit Yeah, it's one of those
things where This one I didn't feel like meshed
all that well. It wasn't a bad match. It wasn't
a bad match, but it did not have the excitement
that the previous two matches had for me. Like,
I get it. Princess Suhei is supposed to be the
next female Rey Mysterio or whatever. Well, it's
funny. Yeah, it's funny too because like so Suhey
in the interim like between the time we've recorded
this Suhey beat Kylie Rae in the in her first
round matchup and Much like with Jazzy versus
Abby lathe. I think they got it wrong because
I've since then I've I looked up some of these
women and Kylie Rae. Holy crap. Is she a good
worker? Yeah, Kylie, I was very disappointed.
I was very let down in the first part of this
tournament when Kylie Rae did not advance when
she did not win. Yeah, Kylie and Jazzy were the
two that I feel like they got it wrong. And so
like Rae, if you watch some of her matches against
Jazzy Gabbard or against Toni Storm or the others,
she's really good. Yeah. But anyway, yeah back
to this one so in the end they Like I said, it's
for whatever reason didn't necessarily Match
up. It's a it's a shortish match. It's another
one. That's right around five minutes Martinez
wins After a fisherman's buster and just I Don't
know like the lucha ones Can It's tough because
the Lucha Libre style is based on sort of constantly
moving and then when you've got somebody who's
more of a power moves Yeah It does not mesh well
in this match. It doesn't always yeah, and you
know, you mentioned that she's kind of the female
Rey Mysterio. And I don't mean that as just for
the this is for the listeners more so than you.
I don't mean that as an insult, but that's what
I thought of her when I first saw her. Yeah,
but Rey is the toughest comparison you can make
because you mentioned somebody who could like
wrestle anybody's style and look amazing no matter
what. And it's Rey. I mean, we talked about it
with the Rumble too. It's been years. He comes
back in the Rumble and just looks amazing. And
so yeah, that's a it's a tough style to do and
it really makes you appreciate the ones who like
Ray who are bonafide absolute like Second they
retire Hall of Fame people Yeah Ding it's a bell
folks. It's wrestling. I don't know. Does she
what now? I feel like it makes me any time I
make a good point that should go off, which means
it wouldn't go off very much. So we close out
with Kyrie Sane versus Bianca Belair. And this
is another one that this is the longest one of
the matches that in this episode, I think it's
one of the longest matches of the tournament.
Yeah. And I think the idea was WWE has signed
Kairi Sane they know she's gonna be a star and
they wanted to kind of Showcase her showcase.
Well, I think they wanted to showcase Bellaire
here give her you know, give her a lot of time
to show off and look good. And we commented on
it in the first round. Bel Air has a wicked look
to her. I love the hair whip thing. I think that's
great. I can't believe nobody's ever thought
of anything like that. And I'm sure somebody's
done something similar in wrestling, but I can't
remember it. And, you know, I haven't seen it.
I think it's a great idea. It makes for a neat
look. It makes her look really smart Yeah, I
almost thought cuz I don't I don't remember her
using it the first time we saw her in this But
I almost thought that she grabbed like I didn't
real until like five seconds after I saw what
it was I'm like, I didn't realize it was her
hair and I'm like, why isn't the ref disqualified?
Like I'm like, wait a second, but he's sitting
here going It's like somebody calls Devo cuz
she whipped it yeah nice and the image of her
just sort of walking around and like you know
twirling it that kind of thing it works really
well it's a great intimidation yeah and she's
another one that she signed to a wwe contract
so i hope you know we'll see here at some point
uh she's only 28 so she definitely has time but
yeah i really like her look uh kairi saying i
have absolutely nothing bad to say about she's
ridiculously good and she's got that amazing
elbow drop that i mean everybody the instant
you see her you want to see it because everybody's
kind of heard about it she got to do it in the
rumble which was nice yeah absolutely so kairi
wins in the 10 minutes uh bel air Did some beautiful
moves in this she you know she's gonna she does
the squats during a suplex She just shows off
her power. She's got the hair I thought this
was a really good match one of the best actually
the second round if not the best You've got Belair
versus saying Insane looked really great in her
first round showing last time around and here
because I don't know if it's because she was
already signed or whatever it was because just
they wanted to put on a good match to show off
both of them you basically have Belair just destroying
her at times in this match and which makes her
look even better now to anyone that hasn't seen
this and is just watching Raw and Smackdown and
all that or Royal Rumble Watch the Mae Young
classic folks if you've ever wanted to see women
in wrestling and actually not just ring girls
or whatever Like you need to watch this because
while both of this is my favorite match to this
point Nice. Yeah, this might be my favorite match
of this whole tournament I need to read I'll
need to check my notes But I'm not sure cuz yeah,
it was really good and you know, props to both
of them. Now, part of it, I've hinted at it before,
but I mean, part of it too is they were given
the time, you know, they have 10 minutes. It's
a lot harder to put on a five minute match than
it is a 10 minute one. So they both, you know,
had more time to kind of show things off and
do their different moves. So, I mean, they both
proved they're worthy of the time though, cause
geez. Uh, and of course, yeah, I mentioned before
Kyrie Sane moves on after the elbow. Uh, but
yeah, they both managed to look really, well,
I mean, Sane came in, everybody knew she was
good and she's going to be a star, but they come
out of it. Yeah. Belair looks really good. And
I hope to see her more on NXT, but of course
they're focusing really heavily on Amber Moon
and Shayna Baszler, who we will get to very soon.
when ember moon popped up i was like oh like
not not in this but when she popped up in the
rumble i'm like wow i like her she was in the
first part of this she was in round one wasn't
she nope where am i i've seen her oh maybe it
was on that i had you watch an nxd takeover that
was right yeah she was in that and she's yeah
she's really good and you know we've gone We
talked about it in the first episode, how many
good female wrestlers they have now, and that
was back then. They've got more now, and they've
added more names, so they added in Ronda Rousey
since then. They've done a number of call -ups,
so pretty much they've taken a bunch from NXT.
I know we've talked about it. We talked about
it in the rumble when Rousey debuted and said,
oh, Mania. And we've talked about Ken Ronda.
She didn't say it so much as point to a sign
over again. It's kind of obvious. It's, you know,
in no unspoken terms kind of a thing, but it's
one of those things where Ken Ronda be ready,
be wrestling WWE style ready for Mania. Like,
is she just going to come up and, you know, rock
on her arm again? Like she did. Like, look, I
get it. Last time was more of a, a surprise thing.
It was more of a rock Rhonda thing more than
just her on her own, actually with a contract
signed to the company. But it's not a lot of
time between when rumble was and mania. It's
not that like four months or less. Like. I don't
know something like that. Yeah, I don't know
if she'll be ready. So and just seeing some of
these women Like like you said After this if
they're signed they stay they go to NXT women
in the next episode Just quickly. We start off
with Toni Storm and Lacey Evans. Yep, and Evans
is somebody who popped up in 2014 And she's on
NXT slash the May Young classic only a couple
years later. Right. Well, a little over two,
a little over two years after she debuted was
the filming and may young, et cetera, et cetera.
Right. That's two years and change to train and
Evans is good. I'm not trying to knock her or
anything. and she came from a military background
so she was definitely in good shape but Storm
is much more refined and polished and Storm's
only 22 but she's been doing it all her life
but you compare two and a half years to Ronda
Rousey only having a few months before a high
profile match and yeah I really wonder she'll
have to be in there it'll either be a spectacle
match her versus Stephanie or something like
that like another person who's not a wrestler
and it's not really gonna be much wrestling or
they're gonna have to put her in with somebody
who's an established veteran like an Oscar or
somebody who can kind of carry her see that was
the thing when they had the surprise reveal thing
of her showing up I thought, oh, well, Asuka
smacked her hand away. This means that it's going
to be... This is playing into Asuka's whole thing.
No one is ready for Asuka. Well, here's Ronda
Rousey. Is she ready? Is she not? We don't know.
We'll find out whether it's at Mania, whether
it's before or after. Obviously it's not been
before, but you know what I mean. Yeah, that's
the same thing here with Tony and Lacey. I really
wanted Lacey to win. I like Tony. I like them
both, but I like Lacey a little bit more. Yeah,
Lacey Evans so another one who signed and I mentioned
it before she's only been doing this a couple
years and She looks good. I mean this They weren't
given the time but I mean some of the moves and
everything they do here everything I thought
looked pretty pretty smooth and I like that Something
about it. They didn't necessarily click and to
be fair I mean storm doesn't necessarily click
until she fights Piper who they're friends in
real life But yeah, you can tell they both have
a lot of talent and I thought this was a solid
match especially for It's yet another five -minute
er, you know, this one went about 515. I have
it clocked in at But yeah, Tony storm won in
the end Evans was looking to win, but Storm just
hits a neck breaker over the knee, which is a
substitute for a normal finisher as a pile driver,
which of course is a no -no in WWE. Yeah, no.
I mean, if they're just now letting Seth use
the curb stop again, a pile driver, not so much.
Yeah, the curb stop it wasn't even because it
injured people is just because they didn't like
thought it looked mean anyway so I mentioned
Shayna Baszler earlier and She gets my I am here
and or me I am Yum, I Really like her. She's
a very good story Baszler is newish and I can't
remember the amount of time we mentioned I've
mentioned it before though. I mean she comes
from an MMA background. She's friends, I guess
with Rousey and Baszler hasn't been doing it
for a super long time and so Yim was kind of
the perfect opponent. Like this was a really
good match for another shortish one. Yeah, it
was a very good match. I absolutely love this
match. I thought Mia was gonna get it, but...
And I think that's yeah, that's how they set
it up too. They set it up as though You know
Mia was gonna win but Baszler they've set it
up so that she can win out of nowhere with a
quick submission and that's how they have her
in NXT and to be blunt it covers up the fact
that she hasn't been doing this super long and
Some of them, you know, like her matches with
Ember Moon are really really submission heavy
Because that's what she knows and she'll get
better, you know given time And it's the same
sort of thing that I was trying to say earlier
with Rousey that they're probably gonna do where
You know, she does a lot of submission stuff
stuff you might see in in MMA But yes This match
was just so Shayna is a hard hitter. Yes. I mean
like Much like with Oscar, you can tell too that
her strikes and stuff probably connect a little
more than I would like if I were in the ring.
Yeah. That's code for I would be crying. But
anyway, please stop hurting me. And then we had
Dakota Kai versus Rhea Ripley. Yeah, which. So
Ripley is super young we mentioned that back
in the first round Dakota Kai has been around
longer and both of these are signed to NXT both
of these women are signed to NXT and Yeah, they're
High so Ripley's got like a great look with the
longer legs and the really good kicks Kai as
well Has a good look, sort of a long body as
well. So Dakota Kai wins this one. Riffley though,
I think has a really bright future. She's 21,
so she's super young. I think she might be the
youngest at everybody, I can't remember. And
yeah, Dakota Kai, she's been wrestling for most
of her life. Another one from it's weird. They've
got a couple people Kai and storm both from Auckland,
New Zealand But yeah, I mean Ripley has a lot
of potential Kai moving on is the smart call
just because she Yeah, but man the future is
so bright for some of these women and Ripley
is one of the ones at the top because to be 21
years old and to put on she had a really solid
match in the first round between her and Miranda
Salinas But for her to be able to put on two
good matches and Get in a decent number of moves.
Like it wasn't like she was carried by both women
either is really impressive to me her strikes
and everything look good like she definitely
has natural talent and this was another like
solid match but it's another shorter one this
one clocked in a little over seven minutes but
yeah it was good right person moved on Yeah,
I kind of wish Ria would have, but like you said,
it gives her more time to develop and everything
else and all that. And the next match is who?
Is Candice and somebody, I think? Yeah, Candice
O 'LeRae and Nicole Savoy. Savoy. You pronounce
good. This is the last match of the night. I
like Nicole Savoy. See, look what she did to
me. No, you're right. It was Savoy. Savoy. Yeah,
Savoy. I liked her in the first round. I just
like Candice a little bit here, better here.
Candice has movesets that... Candice is somebody
who was just really recently signed, by the way.
Yeah. And the whole thing with her, like, not
necessarily in the ring, but out of the ring
is, oh, Johnny Gargano is her husband or something
or other, I think. Yeah, Johnny Gargano, human
wrestling machine. It's gonna be interesting
to see when he gets called up. Yeah, hopefully
not for a bit because so the NXT stuff I think
I mentioned it during our rumble but he put on
easily the match of the year so far at the previous
takeover and it's gonna be real hard for anything
to beat it because it's one of the best matches
you'll see period and Candice actually got sort
of a guest appearance by attacking CNAlmos's
Valet who kept interfering in the match. So it's
nice to see her on TV and getting something to
do as well. But here, yeah, she beats Savoy.
This is pretty solid for the most part, but another
shorter match that I really wish they had had
more time to do. But on the other hand Savoy
This was the tournament if I remember right was
the first time she was back after a torn ACL
Which is obviously a major major injury. So I
have a feeling she's probably what she probably
wasn't at a hundred percent Which I mean we talked
about bad luck with injuries well tearing your
ACL is pretty bad luck Yeah, so I mean I'm not
gonna fault her for She for somebody who's coming
back and trying to shake off ring rust in the
middle of a huge Not televised, but you know
internet televised whatever you want to call
it WWE Network revised showing She looked really
good, and she looks pretty solid here Laray of
course is terrific. I'm really happy. She's signed
She's gonna be a star with the WWE if they stick
with her Yeah, we never know what happens there's
just always random stuff that comes up or injuries
or whatever Anyway, and yeah, that was the end
of episode Six which was one of the better episodes
so far Like I said the Candice LeRae Nicole Savoy
match the Rhea Ripley Dakota Chi Matt, you know
pretty much all of it But like, you know the
whole episode that might like outside of like
the finale obviously that might be My favorite
episode out of these five is that one? Episode
7 we've got Abby Lathe versus Mercedes Martinez
Martinez wins, but Abby kind of looked good but
at the same time she didn't I don't know if she
was having an off night or what was going on
I think they did the they want to do the underdog
sort of thing and I mean because Martinez is
Seemingly stronger or at least she's depicted
as being stronger. I'm sure lathe is very strong
In reality as well, but oh They just chose just
kind of they just sort of chose to do it that
way and Martinez is one of the older Competitors
Yeah, she's my age so She's in way better shape
than I am. That's another story anyway But the
sad thing is folks pretty much anybody that we
talk about on this podcast are in better shape
than either one of us Well any of the yeah, any
of the wrestlers are in better shape than any
of us period. I mean that goes You know, that's
pretty much goes without saying I think when
we talk about Hollywood and do nerd stuff everybody's
in better shape than us do but that's another
story so I don't know. I thought this was a good
match. They did a good job telling a story You
know, that's one of the things so we haven't
talked about it much in this episode but The
so first of all, I mentioned the aftermath Match
where they did the tag match. They had Beth Phoenix
on commentary for that And I'm not trying to
tear on rip up with the commentary or anything.
But man, Beth Phoenix really good at commentary
And I actually think she might be better than
Lita. But having said that One of the things
I liked in the May Young classic and we've talked
about it before They do a good job of telling
store of helping the wrestlers tell the story,
which is the job of the announcer And it's one
thing we've commented that the WWE guys do not
do a good job, because Cole's too busy trying
to hawk shit to actually talk about what's going
on in the ring. Which is not all his fault, obviously.
I mean, he's told like, hey, I gotta sell, you
know, sell this new app. Yeah, that's the good
thing about the NXT stuff, about the Mae Young
classic, about the stuff that uses JR and Lita
and whomever else that is more Hall of Famer
or classic WWE personalities, they don't have
to hawk all that stuff. And you've said in the
past, I don't remember if you've said it on air,
but JR essentially said he's not hawking anything.
He's there to talk about the wrestling. He's
not there to talk about - And that's one of the
reasons he's gone, which sucks. He's gone again?
no no just that like it's one of the reasons
he's not on raw and he doesn't do the major shows
that's what i mean like he just he's not interested
in that aspect of it and that's not what they
want which stinks so and again like i thought
they really helped this match along they told
the story of martinez's arm being injured and
lathe you know keeps trying to lathe kept trying
to Go after it and you know pin her with it and
that kind of thing But in the end martinez was
still able to hit the fisherman's buster and
pick up a win The ending felt a little off with
it, which I also think hurt the match, but I
don't know still thought it was pretty good I
mean one thing is everybody at this point is
much more experienced. So Yeah So this next one
was interesting we talked about telling a story
I mean the whole point of the next match was
to tell the story that Shana Baszler who defeats
Candice LeRae via submission in only three minutes
The whole the whole point was to make Baszler
look super super strong and she chokes out Candice
we see Johnny come out and yeah the whole point
was to tell a story and to make shana look strong
and that's exactly what they did yeah it is exactly
what they did so it was a short match it didn't
really let anybody do a whole lot admittedly
i mean candice gets some nice moves in with a
suicide dive and dvd dt on the ramp might i add
um which man i feel like it's another this is
another like possible time I could rant about
how much I love the DDT and how much it sucks
that it's not a finishing move except for like
Andreas almost and a couple others who are bringing
it back which is nice anyway getting really off
topic but yeah I like you know we see Baszler
she won't shake the hand before the match she
chokes her out after the match the whole point
was to make her look like a badass and they succeeded
so you know it's not like a five -star match
but in terms of telling a story and telling us
what we needed to know about the competitor it
worked perfectly yeah yeah it did it's probably
the only time i think it did and i have not i
i did not look at like when i heard of this this
tournament i thought oh it's to get a trophy
it's to potentially get signed or unsigned i
have i still to this day have not looked into
what the winner would have gotten other than
the may young classic trophy and be called the
first inaugural may young classic champion so
i don't know i was not expecting them to be wwe
storytelling during this and this worked very
well yeah and you know again it helps when you've
got the announcers to tell a story and what i
really liked and what they did Was going into
the next match which was the Niven versus Tony
Storm match It's the complete opposite the two
of them know each other. They play that up. They
play up that they're both Faces and they play
up that You know, they're having fun at it more
than anything else Yeah, and I mean it's still
competitive but yet this it was a Really good
match. This is another one that I think was one
of the best matches of the whole tournament.
Yep, and I mean Tony Storm one which was a I
don't know if it's surprising or not. They're
both terrific I mean they they both absolutely
proved either of these women belong in WWE or
whatever is whatever they want to do if they
want to stay independent then stay independent
but they're both terrific I mean if you enjoy
wrestling you should pay money for to see either
of them is they're good enough so oh absolutely
the thing that I'm looking at now thinking back
on this whole tournament is how and just wondering
how any of the storyline stuff is going to work
into main roster because comparing who's on main
roster now to seeing all of these women in our
first episode that we did episodes 134 and now
this episode of the podcast and I'm like I can't
see how any of these people not saying that I
don't want them to but I don't see the like I
don't see how potentially let's just say Piper
versus Naya happens not saying it would but like
You know, this isn't going to often happen. It's
been happening recently with the men because,
hello, Braun Strowman, Brock Lesnar, Kane, all
of that. Like, the men have broken the ring like
three times in the last six months. I'm not saying
I want to see the women do that because most
of the women are not the size of Nia Jax and
Piper Niven, but... That would be kind of cool
to see if it hadn't already been done to death
so much by the men at this point. Yeah, and it's
funny though, I mean we've seen a lot of firsts
and that kind of thing for the women the last
little bit which have been, it's funny because
all, it's been put on, there are the matches
that have been put on as firsts have all been
really good. We had the cage match between Charlotte
and Sasha. Which was outstanding, you know the
first ever hell in the cell the rumble was surprisingly
good for a match that These women have never
done before. I mean, I'm still blown away by
The fact they did such a good job in the first
rumble because it's a ridiculously hard match
to pull off we talked about in the episode that
You got to know where everybody is. You got to
make sure, you know, you know, step on anybody.
You can't sort of have any type of accident or
anything or else you can eliminate yourself.
It's not so. Yeah, this was a good match. They
play up the fact that their friends, you know,
they even hug after the match, if I remember
right. Yeah, they graduated like I think. I think
Piper congratulates Tony or something. Yeah,
so. Because I know JRM leader commented on that.
Oh, it's such good sportsmanship Yeah, yeah,
it was a great match some of the highlights to
man storm hits a gorgeous considering the Difference
in size and everything German suplex near the
end of the match on Piper, which yeah man is
impressive and then she hits a top rope leg drop,
which was gorgeous like Having Tony hit the suplex
on Piper that was Like oh my god, really? Yeah,
they do a job of building. Not in a bad way,
but like oh my god Really is this really happening
right now cuz wow is that awesome? And they did
a good job building to it too. It didn't just
sort of happen out of nowhere I don't think there's
anything with Piper Niven that could happen out
of nowhere. You know there are no No. Yeah. She's,
she's really good at PKOs here. Yeah. She knows
her character really well. She's really good
at it. So both women who are, uh, again, yeah,
staggered that neither of them have WWE contracts.
Although I would bet they both got offered them
and probably said no. So, but anyway, I'm glossing
over the next match is amazing too. It's one
of the, another Great one. And this is Kyrie
Sane and Dakota Kai. I brought it up earlier.
Kai is a veteran. Well, Sane's a veteran, too.
I mean, this was a really good match. This is
another one, too, that it's good, good guy. Well,
good girl. Sorry. Good girl versus good girl.
After the. Baszler, LeRae sort of choke out that
kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah, and I don't think
that. Necessarily faces can face each other.
It doesn't have to always be face versus you
I mean something I kind of wish they'd remember
on the main roster They do it once in a while
and I don't know if they do it too much, but
I don't know they Whatever we talked we talked
too much about our issues with the shows being
Too long and never knowing what to do with people's
anyway I wonder if WrestleMania is gonna be eight
hours this year, because last year it was seven.
I don't know. Because it takes me, you know,
two days to watch WrestleMania. But anyway, Takota
Kai versus Kyrie saying, um, this match was amazing.
This is just a stupid comment, and I know it
is. I'm wondering if Kyrie will ever change her
ring attire. not saying she's going away from
the pirate princess or whatever it is but like
change the color of it or if she's always going
to keep it the white color it's just something
popped into my head I'm pretty sure she will
at some point yeah I mean she she doesn't essentially
just you know she just likes the well she likes
brain cramp uh -oh she just no she just really
likes sailing there we go What's gonna be really
interesting is if you know when she finally does
come up to main roster and she ends up in like
Extreme rules if she's gonna get to use that
that ship wheel as a weapon That would be funny
they could have a hair versus ship wheel match
in NXT That's Belair here, yeah, that would be
interesting anyway So Kairi Sane moves on, very
good match again, very good episode overall again,
as to be expected. I mean, as they keep going,
obviously you get more and more people who are
veterans. So not to mention who have met each
other at some point too. See, that's the other
thing about WWE is that they, you know, The people
that have met each other before work together
well better than someone who's just meeting for
the first time and never worked with each other
before Yep So yeah good we had episode 8 here
which were down to two matches so yep Shorter
and shorter it was Martinez versus Baszler and
storm versus sane So this is an interesting sort
of match. They get a decent amount of time. And,
you know, they talk about how the fact that Martinez
and Baszler are friends outside of this and know
each other pretty well and that sort of thing.
And just, um, man, I mean, it was a hard hitting
match. They did a good job, again, telling a
story. They had a good amount of time. uh martinez
takes a lot of control here because she's been
wrestling longer than baszler uh it's funny because
i mean neither of them have the experience of
some of the other women but still they um actually
martinez has a fair amount of experience tell
him i'm talking about man did i get hit on the
head today but so It's been a long day it's hard
to leave work early when you're not supposed
to and record a podcast but So anyway basler
so baslers We've I commented before she's not
super experienced but man her submissions look
really good and she's good at sort of setting
them up and Martinez took control of a lot of
this match Martinez. We've got a really good
kind of hard -hitting Yeah, I commented on it
earlier style and the two of them just match
up really well They've got styles that absolutely
comment their comments compliment each other
And the match looks really believable because
of that. I mean, it honestly looks like they're
really, you know, hammering each other and that
kind of thing. And, you know, hopefully they're
not. Nobody's injured. But this was probably
the match more than any other that I watched.
And I realized that Baszler's got a good future
in wrestling if she sticks with it. She's it's
gonna take some time. But if she's with somebody
that's got experience and Can help her she can
look good at this point already Because this
is a really good match and I would argue might
be better than the next one even though the next
one features two women who are Outstanding and
been doing this forever Yeah. Comparatively.
Yeah. The Storm Sane match was, ugh, it was easily
the match of the episode for me. Out of the two.
Okay. Like, wow. Just comparing the, I mean,
Kairi is kind of a high flyer. She's not like
all high flyer, but that, like, she's not a grounded
pal like Shayna is. She's not like Kairi has
that one submission move, but like I don't remember
if she's used it all the time as the finisher.
I don't think so. But her facing Tony Storm was
just cool as hell to see. Yeah, they're terrific.
I'd love to see them wrestle again. And, you
know, this was easily the longest match so far.
It was more than 14 minutes in fact and Yeah,
just I Don't very good solid match go watch it.
I mean the some of the some of them so Zane was
injured in this one. She suffered a concussion
and There's about three. There's about three
different points in it where I go, oh man, that's
where she got hit. And then there'll be one later
on. Like the two of them are obvious. Yeah, the
two of them have obviously worked. Ah hell with
it, I'll just say it. So Lita at the start, I
don't like throwing announcers under the bus
by the way, but Lita at the start incorrectly
says the two of them have never faced each other.
They have. uh just not in wwe obviously and so
they you know part of the reason they work so
well together is they've seen each other that
kind of thing but they obviously have some level
of comfort because they work a match that's a
lot more dangerous than some of the others and
don't seem to be worried about injuring each
other and unfortunately they injured each other
but yeah And it's so funny because you hear in
the main shows, oh, you know, Braun Strowman,
not necessarily Braun, but I'm using him as an
example, Braun Strowman hit his knee or hit his
leg or came down off of the ropes in a weird
way and twisted something. And now whoever Braun's
facing, whoever the hell it is, wrestler X is
going to go after that and incapacitate him and
win and blah, blah, blah. And this match, it's
like, oh. They both kind of got injured. Uh -oh,
that's not good Yikes Yeah, I mean it happens
and they Part of it too is you want to put on
a really good show for the fans, which they succeeded
at Quite a little quite a lot And yeah, I'm so
in the end I mean Kyrie sane wins with the elbow
I don't think I've made it secret that I'm a
huge fan of Storm. I think she's outstanding.
Especially for, like I said before, she's 22
years old, which it's insane how good she is
at this point. And yeah, I was almost disappointed
to see her gone. And that's not a knock on Zane,
who is also utterly amazing. I mean, she's got
the best elbow drop you'll ever seen. I mean,
it's a better elbow drop than almost Hulk's elbow
drop is. Hulks? I think you mean Macho Man. He
said Hulk Hogan. Hulk Hogan not known for the
elbow trap. He had an elbow drop. Anyway, yes,
probably Macho Man. Most likely. Yeah, I've said
this before in the last three years of this podcast
that we've been doing this. Can like multiple
wrestlers, but I will like one more than the
other when they face each other This is what
happened earlier when we were talking about storm
versus Evans. I Liked Tony here. I liked her
in the in the match against Evans. I like Kyrie
here I liked Kyrie before in the other matches
that she was in But here in this match, I like
them equally at this point. Like I wouldn't mind
seeing like Tony versus I don't want to say Carmella,
but maybe, oh god, maybe like a Becky Lynch or
something. I think Tony versus Charlotte would
be an outstanding match. I definitely think she
could put on a match, I think anybody could put
on a match with Osco, who's one of the best as
well. Charlotte's kind of cheating too actually
because she's insanely good, but yeah Becky Tony
versus Sasha, I think it'd be a pretty even matchup
though. Yeah As long as Sasha doesn't dive out
of the ring onto her head Please please stop
doing that. Yes, please stop So like you said
Kyrie wins so it's her versus Shayna Baszler
in the finale episode episode nine Yep. Um, who
did you, before you saw this, like when you saw
that it was going to be Kyrie versus Shayna,
who did you think was going to win? I mean, I
think I mentioned this in the first episode.
As soon as Rousey and Cole were there and shown
on camera, I figured they were going to go, okay,
Baszler's going to win because they're friends.
And I figured they were going to set something
up with like, they're going to face off versus
the WWE. Women or the NXT women or something
like that or they were gonna shoot some sort
of angle or something like that, but It's so
I mean Kyrie saying one So it made it more surprising
I think which worked and I like baszler, but
she didn't have I think the right person won
because she didn't have the experience where
they should maybe push her that far yet. Right.
And I think it's been this, not to mention I
think it would put a lot of pressure on her if
she goes to her first major match in NXT and
they're talking about her as the Mae Young Classic
winner. Yeah, I just think this is a smart thing.
It's a lot of pressure to put on somebody who
hasn't wrestled an awful lot It doesn't hurt
anybody Kyrie saying looked good from the start
You had to figure somebody who was signed by
WWE was gonna win Yeah, it's WWE Mae Young classic
on the WWE Network I mean the only way an unsigned
athlete or entertainer or whatever wrestler that
would have done this is like if it was somebody
that they had either just signed or were going
to like see that's why why I said earlier like
what is the other than showcasing the women which
is great other than showcasing all these female
athletes what is the quote -unquote end prize
for the Mae Young classic like you know You look
at tough enough, the prize for winning that show
at the time was a potential contract with WWE.
That's the thing, for a non -signed wrestler,
a non -signed female wrestler, why wouldn't they
have had the contract thing be the prize? Obviously,
you had both, unsigned and signed females in
this tournament, but like... Other than showcasing
all of the talent. I don't see the point of Like
I said, other than the the notoriety of saying
you were the first Mae Young classic winner Yeah,
I don't I don't see it. I don't see the whole
thing about it Yeah, no, I don't know. It might
be nice if yeah, there was something specific
they were they had them working towards but it's
Tough when you have people on there that are
already signed and have already been shown on
WWE TV and that kind of thing. So. Yeah. Mayhem
Classic overall, I think it was a really, really
great thing they did. I can't wait to see. I
would rather like, obviously we're out of the
Diva era, but like I remember in the Diva era,
they did the Diva search. I much prefer the Mayong
Classic over the D -Research to find new talent
to either be, like I said, the ones that aren't
already signed or even the ones that are signed
that don't get that much ring time, whether it's
on NXT or the main stuff. Like, this is a much
better way of finding female talent than what
they used to be doing. It's nice that they do
these because I think it gives the wrestlers
a chance to just concentrate on the wrestling
I mean they get to tell the story in ring and
that kind of thing, but they really don't have
to worry about Doing backstage segments or an
interview before and after that kind of thing
It's it's gonna be kind of liberating for them
and I like that they do these con these kinds
of things for the network. It's a nice sort of
exclusive, although a number of the matches,
you know, they posted on YouTube to kind of drum
up more viewership. Apparently, by the way, it
was a huge success in terms of viewers. It was
one of the most watched things they've done on
the network, which is nice to see. And it's cool
to just have these sort of wrestling things because
because of the way the network works, it's just
on demand. Like we had You know forever and because
of real -life stuff we had forever in between
these episodes But you could just go back and
watch them and I like that like so, you know
We talk about how long raw is all the time This
is why I feel like it should be on the damn network
because then you could split it up You know you
hit pause and you just resume it later And I
think it's perfect for these sort of tournaments
to have it there I think it would help a lot
if they had, say, your stupid way too long wrestling
show on there. You mentioned WrestleMania is
going to be eight hours. That should be something
that. Yeah, you know, I know you're probably
right is the problem. You think I'm going to
sit there and like watch it for eight hours straight?
I mean, I was surprised that, okay, I get it,
Royal Rumble, first pay -per -view of the year,
it's kind of a special thing. Royal Rumble, SummerSlam,
and Survivor Series are the other three big,
big, big, big ones outside of WrestleMania, which
is the biggest out of the WWE pay -per -views.
But I was surprised that Royal Rumble was almost
three and a half, four hours. I still sat here
through the whole thing because as I said in
the last episode of the podcast, the Royal Rumble
layout of the card was done very well. There
were no moments in the Royal Rumble that I wanted
to get up and go to the bathroom or stop watching
it and do something else, needing a break. I
didn't need a break. But last year's WrestleMania,
we, I... I out took what we said about it and
put it in a YouTube video clip about, you know,
WrestleMania, seven hours, too long. Like, wow,
no. It should not take me, you, anyone two days
to watch WrestleMania. Yeah, and so these network
sort of scenarios where they split it up. You
know, you can watch it whenever this stuff was
pre taped. Uh, they had taped it in a few days
over at a full sale where NXT usually takes place.
Right. And yeah, they just put it up in the network
in chunks. You know, they didn't, they didn't
put it all off on the same day. They put the
rounds up on the same day. Yeah. Which is why,
you know, we did the first round. I think we
recorded it before the second round was up. I
could be wrong, but anyway. Yeah, it was because
I thought originally that it was only going to
be four episodes at the time. I thought, oh,
round one, two, three, four, champion, yada,
yada, yada. Yeah. We, we watched and recorded
Mae Young classic part one in episode 26 before.
I'm like, oh, it's not over yet. That must mean
there's more coming. When is more coming? And
it was like later on in that year or whatever
that it had happened. I was only a week or so
later. I can't remember. But yeah, anyway. Yeah.
So yeah, these work out well. I think this was
a really good special. And the timing of it was
really good, too, because we got it well before
we would start seeing these. Matches that focused
on the female wrestlers like the Royal Rumble
that we you know, just did a review of Right.
Absolutely So Mae Young classic absolutely loved
it I can't wait till they do the next one later
this year. I assume or maybe the end of this
year Yeah, there's so they're planning more of
these sort of tournament style so they had a
UK tournament Which we haven't reviewed and I
mean it was very good But I don't know if you
know that will ever review it so anyway they
had the UK tournament they keep doing all of
these kind of I Hope they keep doing these tournaments
just because it I Mentioned before works really
well on the network and I just think it's a good
extra kind of thing for the viewers. It's probably
fun for the wrestlers. Hopefully they don't kind
of get overworked. Hopefully not. Yeah. The thing
about the network is what is so cool about WWE
network is that you have 30 plus years of content.
there or more at this point like you can find
anything on there that you remember as a kid
from years and years and years ago whether it's
you know Monday Nitro whether it's WCW whether
it's ECW whether it's whatever because there's
like I think at one point I don't remember what
it is apparently but something either JR King
or Cole or somebody said there's like over 20
,000 hours of content on the WWE Network You
don't necessarily have to jump into Raw and SmackDown
or, I mean, sure, jump into NXT, but like, WWE
at this point in time with WWE Network is not
like comics. You don't need to read 600 other
issues to catch up on issue number 601. So you
can pretty much start anywhere, whether it's
the in -ring stuff, whether it's the original
series stuff, any of that. Anyway, we're rambling
at this point This was really good Are we gonna
do a full if we do full rating for the thing?
I'm just gonna say it's oh, yeah It's just a
five out of five. I think it was a good event
It's a nice sort of extra for people who subscribe
to the network and I again, you know, I like
that they do this stuff it gives independent
wrestlers the chance to Show what they can do
to a much wider audience than say just the Crowds
that they're used to of sort of the hardcore
wrestling fans who you know go to all the live
events So yeah, there's there's no downside to
this. It doesn't It doesn't cost them a lot of
money to put it on and it builds. They're using
the same arena that they use for NXT. Like that
was one thing I noticed. I'm like, Oh my God,
it's the crowd, not necessarily the crowd itself,
but the ambient noise around the crowd was very
quiet because again, they're using the NXT arena.
Obviously. Yeah. Nobody's playing with beach
balls or, uh, yeah. Uh, anyway. Alright, so yes,
I agree may young classic as a whole five out
of five stars absolutely loved it There wasn't
anything I didn't like about it like I said before
we like certain character certain wrestlers over
others, but overall very well done product coming
up next episode we're gonna be Reviewing my first
NXT takeover, which was Brooklyn three so we'll
do that and then after that we're going to be
doing in the episode after that we're going to
be doing the first 365 episode following kevin
owens so that's what's coming up here on mayhem
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