The Council of Evil Review

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TFG1 Mike. Hello, sir. Hello. So I realized something

in watching what we're going to be covering today.

That's always scary. Uh huh, I know. This episode

should have actually had three episodes in it,

because... I forgot that we're going to have

to end this podcast on a cliffhanger, because

that's how this epithese, I'm like, damn it!

I go back and I watch the Council of Evil two

-parter, and I'm like, at the end of part two,

I'm like, wait, what? Oh, man, and I had to,

I needed to know how the story ended, so I went

ahead and watched The Last Stand, which is the

next episode, the first episode in 117 that we'll

cover next time around. I wanted to leave the

fans and the listeners with a cliffhanger. Yeah,

yeah. So like you said in this episode of Masters

of Grayskull we'll be giving you our thoughts

on next two episodes episode 25 the Council of

Evil part 1 and episode 26 the Council of Evil

part 2 so we hope you're ready for the time to

go back to Eternia So what are we after Skeletor

says there's a cave down there containing a weapon

that's been hidden away for 1 ,000 years All

right, first up today, folks, is episode 25,

the Council of Evil, part one, air date, October

4th, 2003, written by Dean Stefan. After the

Masters capture Skeletor's evil warriors, Eternia

relaxes their security, unaware of Skeletor's

true plan, as he convenes the Council of Evil.

So basically, like we... Talking about before

I like the fact that You basically have evil

warriors that actually get captured and they

are in jail it throughout time It just happens

that this episode all of them are Yeah Sure,

basically, so Skeletor turns to a alternate group

of evil warriors. What do you think about this

episode? I like this I think this is cool because

you get captured and you get captured and you

get no it's one of those things where Looking

at what this series is as a whole. This is the

two -part season finale of season one. Sadly,

we only have X number of episodes left in the

series after this, but I understand why they

did this, and I remember back in 2002, 2003,

when I saw this on Cartoon Network, and I'm like,

same thing I had. Rewatching it for this episode

like really that's it wait. I need to know more

I need to obviously in 2003 I couldn't have gone

and said hey, I need to know I need to know what

happens I need to you know whatever they left

it on a cliffhanger for six months or so I guess

I could be wrong I don't know we'll find out

when we find out the air date to the season two

episode one, but it's one of those things where

Wow I forgot how, like, we know this series is

cool. We know that we don't like certain aspects,

we feel that certain things are whatever, but

this was fucking awesome. This was great. This

was one of those things that you've dreamt of

since 1983 kind of thing. Like you said, Skeletor

basically lets Beast Man and Trapjaw and Evil

In and Triclops and... Whiplash yeah, we got

a awful basically everybody gets captured and

then he goes to the B team and Enlists stink

or and wet like seeing web store on screen Wow

Yeah, we get web store we get marzo We get the

three Giants yeah, so it's an interesting collection

of evil warriors that he's now in listing and

like he said one interesting thing About is because

of all of the other evil warriors being captured

like we said in the plots not just there the

attorney has somewhat relaxes their security

You know King and Queen go on a vacation And

people are going back to see their people you

know their families are where they're from some

people are just doing stuff for fun You know

whatever it might be, but they're all kind of

flinging off and going in all over the place

So obviously they have become left themselves

vulnerable to whatever Skeletor has up his sleeve

Before we get to that though, there is an incredible

to lead to the imprisoning of all of the evil

warriors. There is a fantastic Great epic awesome

battle to begin this episode. Yeah, the battle

was amazing like I don't know if we've had a

sequence like that in a long time in this franchise

where it's like a just all -out like I don't

know how long it I didn't time it but it's got

to be like damn near ten minutes It's easily

the first 10 and a half, 11 minutes of the first

23 minute episode, yeah. Right, right. So, I

mean, they stay with it. It's prolonged. You

get to see a lot of different one -on -one matchups

as well as the team groups and stuff like that.

So, that was a very cool way to start the episode.

When you get to the palace and when everybody's

relaxing you get to view you get to see like

a sky shot almost of the palace You get to see

how many people are actually living There you

know the like all the different people that are

at the palace it kind of adds a new element because

usually we don't have to see that many people

at once And they actually do an even an announcement

that you know the state of high alert is off

or it's over for now You know so apparently they've

been on red alert for a long time, and now it's

going off So that was interesting And it was

also cool because we had a mystery of as the

viewer you don't know who Skeletor has left or

who he is sending out Because you can see that

he has a plan and that he has other people that

he's gonna Be you know getting the services of

but it's like who is he talking about? Yeah,

I was Just based on the name of this two -parter

I Not that Brian Dobson, not that the Skeletor

would do this. I was half expecting him to do,

um, an Earl Hammond. Ancient Spirits of E. Like,

that's what the title reminded me of. I'm like,

oh my God, it's Mumra from the eighties all over

again. It isn't, obviously. Um, that battle though.

There is one scene that I absolutely love. It's

the scene where, I forget who throws it at him,

but basically, one of the evil warriors throws

a rock at He -Man. He just sets his feet and

puts his sword out and basically doesn't even

move, doesn't even make a motion, and the sword

just... cuts the rock in half like that is by

far the best he man thing he's ever done in the

last 30 x number of years whatever it is now

it's also a good timing wise because we've had

a lot of episodes where it seems like skeletor

hasn't been a central part so to have this it's

like you also get a lot of skeletor which we

haven't got a lot of so it's like we were ready

for that um so i think that added to the episode

Yeah, it's just a good as far as a two -parter

episodes go and being the first part it does

everything you need it to do Don't you know it's

not polite to fight and run Yeah, it sets up

the story it gives you a great battle in the

beginning like you know You know, this, that,

the other thing, it sets up mystery, like you

said, with, you know, who's he have left, who's

he gonna go to, who's he gonna whatever. And

it basically, the two episodes are basically

mirrors of each other because at first the evil

warriors are captured and then later all the

masters are captured and kind of thing. So basically

it's, you know, turning it on its head or turning

it on its ass or whatever you wanna say. But

yeah, part one was just amazing. The animation

was top notch. Agreed. Like that battle, just

the little nuances of that battle were just so

cool. Yep. For any other notes about the episode,

because I think we can talk more about it once

we get to part two kind of as a whole. Oh, yeah.

No, I'm good. Have a power sword for Skeletor

just for coming up with a plan and for being

conniving and evil and great This episode and

because we finally get an episode of him What

about you any awards or what rating would you

give this? Obviously power power swords to almost

everybody he -man skeletor skeletor especially

like you said the plan the rating i'd rather

just rated overall for the entire thing but really

it's not going to basically it's two fives it's

gonna equal out to attend the whole damn thing

because there was nothing in this for like there

wasn't any story beats that were missed it wasn't

like do i agree that they should have like lighten

their security? No, not at all. But that was

the point. That was the point of Skeletor luring

them into a false sense of security that they

could do that. You know, so that is again why

this episode gets a five from me. And for some

reason I made a four and a half. I don't know,

I didn't quite give this one a five. I just left

a little bit of... an opening so I'm at a four

and a half probably because it's the first part

and there's a cliffhanger and I don't I wanted

to see how everything ended but four and a half

for me five for Mike it's still real good the

jokes on you because it doesn't end it cliff

hangs again right so we're gonna take a quick

break and we'll come back with this part two

of this deceivingly titled series all my evil

warriors captured Alright, last up today is episode

26, the Council of Evil part 2, October 11th,

2003. Dean Stefan, He -Man and Battle Cat are

overpowered by Skeletor's newly formed Council

of Evil, but manage to escape capture by transforming

back into their other selves. So this is a second

part of here because we're going to find that

the Masters are now all captured. Well, so it's

basically Prince Adam against the Council of

Evil. What did you think of the second part of

this? I Have been waiting 25 episodes For Cringer

to do something and he finally did it Yeah, like

don't get me wrong. I said at the beginning in

episode 108 when we started this I'm so happy.

He doesn't talk. I'm so happy that isn't a part

of the persona here but Battle cat almost He

almost doesn't like yes, the two personalities

are there Cringer is the timid the Fearful one

in battle cats just gonna do whatever But I haven't

really seen him do too much other than when he's

you know carrying he man and he man's fighting

and whatever And the moment in this when Cringer

you know, goes to protect Adam and goes to, you

know, save him and all, I was like, yes, Cringer,

yes, about time. I love that this is, again,

a complete mirror, a complete reverse of the

first episode of the part one, I should say,

and how, you know, basically the sorceress has

to tell him, and that I find is a little weak,

because why couldn't he think of that on his

own? I mean I get it, it's again a thing to show

that she's in the episode even though we see

her you know before this and after this but like

she had to tell him to have the power return

for him to escape. That's a little weak but I

love that they did it because I love that again

you're seeing both sides of the same coin and

using them in different ways. It's not just I'm

just gonna lay here and be lazy and and and fish

and whatever Right, yeah, no, it's definitely

interesting we get the reverse transformation

in this episode like we're talking about So that's

something I'll get to see all the time You also

get the transformation interruption, you know

where he's about to transform and he gets interrupted

you also get Some interesting things as far as

his identity because you have at one point or

ko Things or go says but Adam is he man. Yeah,

and there's that drone that's flying by So that

almost reveals his identity. Yeah, then they're

teasing Yeah, then they're teasing if Adams gonna

tell Tila As he comes real close to doing that

We and we also get anyway after this is the first

time we've seen this or anything But we get the

whole fact that Adam loses his power sword. Yep

What I love so that always yeah, I love about

this is it's so funny so Two -parter next time

on he man of the Masters universe Previously

on he man of the Masters universe next time when

they do the clip he goes to tell her when they

do the teaser And then immediately as soon as

he tries to tell her it cuts away the source

or she's like no Like it makes it seem like it's

part of the same scene like she's like telling

him no don't reveal your identity to Tila I'm

like oh But that's obviously two two different

scenes, and that's a testament to whomever I

don't know if it's in house at Mike Young Productions,

or if they farmed it out like you look at trailers

in general how scenes are cut together, but when

you watch a film or whatever, they're not anywhere

near each other kind of thing. And I kind of

like that, but I'm like, Oh God, don't do that.

Right. Um, I had down just like you did the cringe

that comes through. Uh huh. Yup. Um, you know,

first time we got to see really Cringer be active

in something. And it's interesting because obviously

in the filmation, he meant Cringer was always

very cowardly, didn't want to be involved. They

don't emphasize that a lot in this series So

it is interesting that we get to see him kind

of have this brave moment to come through I'm

not gonna try to spoil anything because I do

know something is obviously from when we watched

it originally that are gonna happen, but you

get to see the snake men in this episode and

You get to see them interact in and possibly

forming some type of an arrangement with Eva

Lin Well, Eva Lin is locked up and whatnot And

man, so you got Skeletor, and he is approaching

Castle Grayskull towards the latter half of this

episode, and he is with his Council of Evil,

so he has, you know, the Giants, he has Webstore,

he has Count Marzo, etc. And Count Marzo decides

to try to double -cross him. And it leads to

a badass moment for Skeletor to survive that

strike. Oh, yeah left and the way they do it

is so cool from the animation because It does

this strike and it's like very powerful and there's

some smoke involved and that type of stuff And

then you see Skeletor just hovering. Yep floating

in air So that was a badass moment for Skeletor

we also get to see something that's very rare

There we get to see the sorceress actually getting

hurt and not just getting hurt but screaming.

Yep like that's something we don't get to see

a lot of so that Was intense and then we have

Prince Adam standing there with no power sword

It's in between Skeletor and gray skull Skeletor

has his Council of Evil and then here come the

Masters. Oh wait and Beastman, Merman, Trapjaw,

Triclops, and now we have all of the evil warriors

with Skeletor and Adam is the only thing that

stands in between all of them and Castle Grayskull,

and that's where the episode ends. Yeah. And

I'm like, oh, damn it, you've got, like, how

could I not immediately go, like, because again,

I mentioned last episode, I think, that I...

Woke up and watch these on my phone kind of thing

just to watch them so I got the content before

I go back and record the audio And I'm like how

can I not hit the next arrow to see the next

episode to see how it really ends because damn

I'm telling you these people really knew how

to use the cliffhanger cuz Yeah, I don't think

so. That's not Thankfully we live in a day and

age where we can actually go to the next episode

immediately and not well, you know, it's airing

and whatever Yeah for sure. So that was a great

cliffhanger a great second part of This council

evil two -parter. I don't know why they didn't

just call it council evil part one two and three

But such as life we will have to wait until the

next podcast to tell you guys how this And then

to see where it goes from there, but for this

episode I give a power sword Skeletor for surviving

that strike from Marzo also Power sword for Cringer

Because he was cool in this episode any other

awards that you have Skeletor Cringer He -man

or Adam I should say Because I mean again character

development for Adam Like we saw in that one

episode where the king wanted him to pay more

attention to affairs of state, like learning

the things of the palace and whatever. Here,

he has to rely on being this part of himself.

He can't become He -Man and just muscle his way

out of it this time. Yeah, for sure. I absolutely

love that. Again, for me, it's a five. It was

awesome. I'm still at a four and a half. What

the hell is wrong with you? Four and a half.

I thought there was some slow moments at the

beginning when everybody's captured in the set

and the other and some of the Adam stuff was

a little bit maybe not as exciting, but a very

Minerman nitpick there. So I'm still at a four

and a half. I think these have been two very

good two -part episodes and we'll have to see

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