M.A.S.K.E.D. M.A.Y.H.E.M.
Quest of the Canyon and The Treasure of Brian Boru Review

About this Episode
you Hello and welcome to mass mayhem. It is episode
20. Holy crap. We made it to the 20th episode
of the podcast I am one of your Steve Joe and
Mike and joining me is the snickering to and
master Tim. Hello. Hello Well, we have made it
it was it was tough this week to get through
some of the episodes We only as of this point
ladies and gentlemen, I know we took a two -year
hiatus But as of this point, we have ten episodes
left of this podcast after this Episode 30 cannot
get here fast enough of the podcast. Oh my god
Just let everybody know ahead of time you may
want to not play this episode of the podcast
when you're at work on Speakers or anything else
cuz I guarantee you I'm going to be yelling at
some point during this episode or the episode
in two weeks in episode 21 because There's some
crap that happens in these cartoons that should
just never happen oh my god it is so bad half
of who I we've tried to look at the the writing
credits for this show I don't even remember if
they even live I think the episodes are so bad
I don't even remember seeing titles in the lake
I know there's no titles in the actual theme
song intro, but as soon as the episode comes
up, I honestly do not remember if there are titles
and credits in the beginning. In G1, you see
the return of Optimus Prime written by blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah. You see that. I don't
know if Mask has that. People say the season
two, the racing season, is really bad. It can't
be any... Worse than what we're already watching
well that remains to be seen How much worse it
could get I was actually hoping that You know
I just kind of have this vision of what season
2 is going to be like because it's called the
racing season And I know there are some characters
and vehicles. We haven't seen yet, so I'm thinking
oh You know, I wonder how they change things
in season two, and maybe it's going to be more
interesting because there'll be those factors
in the episodes, but if it's any worse, yeah,
we're going to be suffering pretty badly. And
what you were saying about the title cards, yeah,
they don't list the title of the episodes during
the episodes, so that's one of the things I have
to do in preparations for the episodes is, you
know, I usually go back to the main menu on the
DVD. Just so I can write down the title because
they don't have a title card. They don't give
a writer credit or director credit or anything
per episode that is Mask I know there were executive
producers because I believe there's a I believe
there is a bonus feature There's a retrospective
feature at on the final on the volume 6 disc
from shout factory And I believe at some point
before like like when we do the season 1 recap
I'm gonna have to watch that and see Who the
guys names are because I know Brian Ward did
talk to several of the people who were involved
with mask But it seems like to me. It's like
Year, okay Did you ever read the, this isn't
off topic, but this is going back to our childhood,
has you ever read the Hardy Boys case files as
a kid? No, I did not. The Hardy Boys case files,
Hardy Boys books are basically, they're young
adult books, they're about these two brothers
who do detective work in a town called Bayport
and they end up going, it's basically, You know
an amalgamation of Sherlock Holmes and James
Bond and any kind of detective story you can
think of But they're they're high schoolers.
They're 17 and 18 and whatever else and they
basically do PI work for their father Fenton
Hardy who Is an actual you know private investigator
so when I'm reading these I you know, I see all
the you know, I as a kid i see the author's name
franklin w dixon years later as an adult i would
learn that franklin w dixon does not exist the
hardy boys case files books were no a number
of one of a number of children's books are young
adult reading books that were made by this consortium
basically nameless and faceless people think
of it as the mnpa for books The MPAA for books.
That's what Mask feels like to me. It feels like,
and I know we mentioned that Chuck Lorre has
his writing credits on or whatever else, but
it's one of those things where it's because they
don't show the episode name, they don't show
any kind of credit at all. Every other 80s cartoon
does this. This is the only one to my knowledge
that doesn't or the only one that I've seen that
doesn't. And it makes me think that it's just.
It's just some consortium of faceless, nameless
people just coming up with crap to give us. I
loved this show as a kid. And it's not even that
I'm gonna say, oh, well, it doesn't hold up.
Because, well, it doesn't, but that's beside
the point. The point is, watching it in the moment
where it was supposed to be in the 80s, even
then, I'm surprised that there were PTA groups
not screaming at Deke. for airing this show they're
oh god so bad yeah it's a fairly harmless show
and i wonder what the deceit it's fairly harmless
in terms of it's not uh overly violent it's not
the the plots aren't too complicated or complex
for for kids to pick up on that's what i meant
by saying that but yeah i wonder what the precipice
was for not having the title cards not Giving
the writer credit during the episode because
like you said a lot of other shows did do that
Or at least had a title card Absolutely, and
and I you know if you look at the ending credits
we talked about this on an earlier episode But
there are a lot of writers listed You know as
having Worked on the episodes for the series,
so you know they had quite a extensive writing
staff I don't recognize a lot of the names, you
know, we talked about Chuck Laurie being one
that was recognizable, but The other ones I didn't
recognize and you know, you and I've watched
a lot of cartoons and and none of those names
really popped out No You know, we're you know,
you and I are doing this at the same time that
I'm trying to get through Tales of Eternia for
the master for the He -Man show Honestly out
of the two He -Man has bad moments. He -Man has
bad writing moments. He -Man has bad plot moments.
But they make a hell of a lot more sense than
anything that has come out of Mask to this point.
Yeah, they do. It's pretty interesting to compare
them and see the differences. And you look at
that and you say, OK, well, what is it that He
-Man is doing that Mask isn't doing? And I think
you have just a... Yeah, you have a good... caliber
of quality writers on that series that drew from
a lot of different inspiration and it's not just
the same plot devices over and over again. I
mean, yes, there are some plots that kind of
repeat what's been done in episodes in He -Man
2, but it's not quite to the extent that it's
done in Mask. And then you also have a really
good voice cast as well. And a good variety of
characters and they and they do add some depth
of the characters in some of those episodes Which
really haven't seen much of that in mass. They're
pretty much just you know cardboard Characters,
you know, this is a good guy. This is a bad guy
and there's just not much depth to them I think
between this episode and and and the episode
in two weeks episode 21 we have a total of maybe
six or seven new characters uh... that get zero
introduction or explanation uh... you know we
just get the computer telling us why they why
they should be on that mission uh... so it's
going to be an interesting two weeks with episode
twenty and twenty one because we've got a whole
lot of new stuff coming up so we are going to
get to the episodes after this Sample number
one dates from year 1878, belonging to legendary
outlaw Jesse James. Oh, boy! Then this has got
to belong to Jesse James. It's one of those ten
-gallon hats. How do I look? You've got another
five gallons to go. Fingerprint sample number
two dates to this year, belonging to contemporary
outlaw Miles Mayhem. Mayhem. Wonder what no good
he's up to this time. chickens there's something
about that map we saw on the wall that's it select
the mask agents best suited for this mission
Alright, first up today is Quest of the Canyon.
Mask goes to Carlsbad Caverns in New Mexico,
where Venom plans to steal the lost treasure
of the legendary gunman Jesse James. Another...
Okay, I'll give them props. At least it's not
in a friggin' foreign country. At least it's
in America. I knew you were gonna like that.
I'll give them props for that, and I actually
had to look up the Carlsbad Caverns because a
buddy of mine, Doug Abel, who does talking about
my generation, he is actually living in Carlsbad,
but he's in the California way. There's multiple
Carlsbad ones, so I was curious to see if this
was the California desert or the New Mexico desert.
It turns out to be New Mexico. What do you think
of the plot of this? Feel like we've seen this
before kind of I Did like the setting I really
thought it provided a good Background for the
story and actually, I mean I just like the backgrounds
in this episode anyway I thought thought they
looked great and I kind of like these sort of
settings and I think it really works Well in
a series like mask So that I liked But overall
I just kind of sat back and enjoyed this one,
but I didn't really enjoy it so much for the
plot Yeah, no I Speaking of stuff what we have
a new team member this time around who's on the
teams this time Yeah, this is pretty cool. We
get ace Riker and he's driving slingshot so he's
called up and then we We also have Bruno Shepard
on the Venom side. He's driving a vehicle called
Stinger. So yeah, it was really cool seeing new
mask members and new Venom members. I like that.
Again, they're not doing a whole lot with the
characters, but it's good to see some variety
here. And I thought the vehicles were pretty
cool, actually. The new vehicles are great, the
new masks are really cool, but as far as plot,
there's nothing yet. We are... Let me look here.
This episode, Quest of the Canyon, is the 48th
episode out of 65 in Season 1. They - we are
48 episodes into this series. They - and I understand
the 80s wasn't about character development and
it isn't like how cartoons are written nowadays,
but you would think by the 48th episode you would
stop doing the random T -Bob joke or the random
Scott joke or putting Scott in peril or - you
would think that they would do all this stuff
by now. You think that they would learn and maybe
grow that like - What I would love out of this
series I know I'm never gonna get it even though
I haven't watched the rest of the episodes I
automatically already know from the 47 previous
episodes we've talked about between you and Optimus
Solo and I We get zero the the only background
we get on the original mask members Brad Dusty
Bruce Alex and Hondo Because Matt's a whole other
ball of wax all those guys we get Okay, one of
them is a history teacher. One of them loves
animals. The other one is a toy designer One
of them is a rock star What is what is dusty's
a ranch hand or a Wrangler or something or the
I don't Bruce seems to be an inventor or yeah
We get like one or two lines telling us what
they do and where I would love it. I would have
loved it if some of these mask episodes would
have gone into their lives or had Venom try to
go, cause Venom doesn't care. Venom doesn't know
who any of the mask members are. There was that
one episode where Miles found out that Matt Tracker
was the leader, but then they conveniently erased
that with a plot device the size of the goddamn
matrix of leadership. Yeah, if they could start
off some episodes by following one of the mask
members or something, you know, like we talked
about Bruce, you know, he's an inventor and maybe,
you know, he's working at the university on some
invention and then mask gets or venom gets wind
of that device and wants to get their hands on
it and then They lead off from that and then
bring in Matt maybe some other mask members at
some point You know find different ways to Bring
the characters in and also to profile some of
the characters more rather than okay, you know
Matt is off with Scott and T Bob and you know
in Africa this week or Australia We're in China
and then venom just happens to be there as well
So it would have been nice if they could have
thrown in some of that variety if you look at
Like you said with the powers of grayskull the
he -man podcast is going on You have orco and
and he's kind of a goofball, you know, sometimes
his his spells don't go very well and They've
done things with that or they've done things
with man -at -arms, you know at one point he
decides that he's going to quit his job because
one of his machines backfired and then that you
know gives you a moment to spend time with that
character and then Make him realize how valuable
he is uh to to the team and uh and and develop
the character throughout the episode and we just
don't really see that type of development in
the series no not at all so we are hopefully
going to be able to turn the high beams on i
don't know maybe somebody broke them we'll see
after this all right turning on the high beams
here we go A burrow ride. No thanks. I'm with
T -Bob on this one. I have never cared for four
-legged animals you can ride. Now let me let
me justify this all right. When I was somewhere
between four and six years old maybe seven no
yeah between four and seven years of age my dad
and my future stepmother took me to their friend's
farm in Massachusetts that had horses. Yeah,
I don't think it was a farm. It was probably
just a house with state. Yeah. You got all kinds
of people on the, you know, on the Cape and on,
you know, on the south shore, you know, before
you really go inland into Massachusetts, like
where the farms really are. But, you know, you've
got houses that have, you know, horse stables
and they were on all this and all that. So I,
for the life of me, because of this group of
palsy could not get on the damn horse when i
did finally get on the horse they they my my
dad helped me get up there and get on there i
was i just couldn't handle the height and the
horse threw me so yeah no i'm not a fan of elephants
horses zebras any any four -legged animal you
can ride i have a safe respectable uh respect
for That those animals from a distance. I don't
mind, you know going up to a horse and patting
him whatever else but Ain't no way in hell. I'm
getting on a horse. So I'm with T Bob there.
So there's one good thing Yeah, I have a similar
story too I was probably around nine or ten when
I got on the back of a horse for the very first
time and I was kind of excited about it but then
as you said like as a kid getting up there it
was just like whoa, this is up really high and
I don't know if he threw me or if I just wanted
off at that point, but that's the last time I
remember being on a horse I haven't gotten on
one since I'm almost 35 years old I haven't gotten
on one since I was somewhere between four and
seven and I never will like I said, I have a
healthy respect from a distance for the animals,
but No way in hell Ever get back in a war I would
much rather go on a damn helicopter, which I
have died I did do as a kid. I would much rather
do that and be you know What five seven five
seven hundred feet up in the air? Yeah flying
over a city then then riding a damn horse So
the scene switches because it because that's
the thing they with this episode they have a
A storyline and a B storyline the A storyline
is the mass team going off and splitting up and
searching for Whatever that you know they're
searching for venom and whatever else and Scott
and T Bob were on this B storyline with doing
all these outdoor activities So we go back to
the A storyline and we see Bruce in the cave
and Yeah, he's about to have himself a cat -tastrophe,
isn't he? Yes, he is. He just about gets his
foot bitten off by this puma. Yep. Which didn't
exactly quite look like a puma, I thought. It
was a pretty big cat as well. Yeah. Probably
a little bigger than it should be in scale. Yeah,
possibly. It took me a few moments to write this
line after the scene. I had to actually pause
the disc and figure out if i can really really
write this and give props to these characters
but holy shit scott and t -bob actually did something
right and stopped venom before mass got there
because they which is surprising to me because
t -bob never whispers scott will whisper every
now and then but t -bob is always too damn loud
and i'm surprised that venom never hears him
but they go around and do all these things to
the vehicles so so they won't run um First of
all, how does Scott know how to do all this crap?
I know he hangs out with his dad, I know he hangs
out with the math team and he sees them repairing
vehicles, but like, this kid is, how old would
you say he is? Nine or ten? I would say close
to around ten. By ten, that would be maybe fifth
or sixth grade. Something like that. I don't
know. I just I as much as I enjoyed them finally
doing something, right? It's still I still have
to call it in the question though Yeah, but I
I kind of like that that They keep that consistent
throughout the series because he is always tinkering
with T Bob So it does make sense that he's somewhat
mechanically inclined and that he can get under
the hood of a car and know what things are, know
how to disable the ignition or disconnect the
gas lines or whatever. And his dad is Matt Tracker
who has some sort of mechanical knowledge as
well. So I kind of like that. They use it a few
other times during the series as well where he's
able to disable the the Venom vehicles at some
point. So yeah, I thought that was a good way
to bring them into this episode and have Venom
defeated by Mask. What did you have for highlights
on this one? I liked a lot of the animation in
this one. I thought it was very fluid. I like
when Matt blows up the rock with Thunderhawk's
guns. as they're going down the canyon there's
a rock block in the way so he used a gun to blast
that out of the way and I thought it was really
well done and then we're also in the cavern there
was one of those carts on the tracks and of course
that's uh that's when Bruce almost loses his
foot to the puma and of course the tracks aren't
finished yet so it looked like they It didn't
look like they weren't finished. It looked like
part of it was destroyed. Yeah, that's what it
was. It was destroyed Yeah, they were kind of
pointed up and we go into the commercial break
at that point wondering what's gonna happen,
but Bruce Bruce's mask is called lifter. So you
know, he's gonna be able to get through it But
that was pretty cool. And then There was a really
cool transformation of Switchblade in this one.
As I was mentioning, there's some really good
animation in this one. And we see the transformation
from behind and underneath Switchblade, which
we have not seen before. It was just really cool
seeing the transformation from that angle. I
thought it was very well done. Absolutely, absolutely.
Alright, we're gonna turn on the low beams after
this I have got a long list for low beams Okay,
well I only have one written down Okay, go ahead.
So um, so yeah Mike my low beams. I only have
one You know, there were issues with the plot
and this one and so forth But I kind of liked
how the a storyline to be storyline Weed together
in this one, but low beams. I mean spectrum.
It's a very powerful mask I understand that has
some amazing powers But I don't understand how
it knew which cave contained the gold that they
needed to go into Well, it detects sound It detects
some sort of sound waves and I guess the sound
waves from the vehicles maybe I think that's
how they explained it. Okay, well then I just
missed that part. I don't know. Alright. Well,
while I lay dying over here... You alright? 124
edit point. So I remember to end it Alright,
so for my low beams T bitch is a damn robot.
He shouldn't be exhausted at all. He is a machine
for the love of God Complain complain complain.
That's all Scott ever does it. There's this There's
a scene after T Bob is complaining he's exhausted
and then Scott starts complaining about something
about not being able to go on the mission or
yeah I think that's what it was or or that there's
nothing to do and blah blah blah blah blah I
wrote this down this way because I didn't remember
the name of the of the um the pilot but uh boo
Slingshot has the same voice as Rex Like, I get
it. They're on a limited budget. They can only
pay actors for three roles. But the guy that
pilot's slingshot, his voice in Rex, it's the
same voice actor. It's pretty much the same voice
for both characters. I didn't quite like that.
I've had that same issue with some of the other
characters and some of the other new characters
that will be introduced to here pretty soon.
One in particular that's voiced by the guy who
voices Alex. in the series and for a moment I
was watching the episode and you know I have
my head down taking notes and I hear the voice
and I'm thinking oh it's Alex you know he showed
up and it wasn't it was the new guy so yeah the
voice acting in this one you know sometimes you
get voice actors that can do a good job of playing
two or three characters and you can tell us them
but you don't just right away pick it out they
do a good job of changing their voice enough
that You don't pick up on it. Maybe immediately
especially if you're you're a kid But in this
series, yeah, it's sometimes they're not very
distinguishable No, not at all All right Too
many puns Bruce way too many the entire time.
He was in his mind adventure way too many puns.
Yeah This is something that's gonna come up later,
but it also came up here This episode took near
I actually looked at my timer when venom finally
showed up it took nearly 12 to 13 minutes out
of a 22 21 minute 22 episode 21 22 minute episode
for venom to even show their faces Yeah, you
know that's It seems to happen quite frequently,
too I mean I've noticed that is that we won't
see any of the venom members until after that
first commercial break you know um and then miles
mayhem himself has he never he he acts as he
if is if he has never seen gold before um the
last 11 episodes of the show or something, he
has been on gold searches and he has seen gold.
There's a point when they find the treasure and
he's like, ooh, shiny. I know he never saw it
before. It's like, seriously, dude, like you.
Whatever. I know that caught my attention, too,
because he's just like, wow. Yeah. I could believe
it. Oh, I've never seen gold before. I mean,
it would be different if this was his first gold
hunt, but he has been hunting for gold for the
past 47 episodes off and on. It's something that's
going to come up later. I don't know if it's
going to come up later in this episode or if
it's going to come up in episode 21 in two weeks,
but it's one of those things where there's another
part of Venom in general. That I completely call
into question for as to why we even need them
in this series So in the PSA for this one was
don't read without proper light, which is very
it's a very good PSA because Yeah, no Reading
without proper light is not good Yeah, it was
kind of cool too that Scott was reading about
Jesse James Yeah, so it tied into the episode
a bit. Yeah, so at least it tied into the episode
What are you going to give this one for a rating?
I know you're going to fall over in your chair.
If you give it a four, I will reach through my
computer and punch you. Get ready to reach through
the computer. I like this one. I mean, for this
series, I thought it was enjoyable. Like I said,
I... was able to just sit back and enjoy this
one. I mean, maybe it's because it's the first
episode this week and I wasn't cringing at this
point. You know, I kind of had a fresh perspective
going into it. But the animation was good. It
was cool seeing some new members. I like the
background. So I gave it a four because I thought
it was above average for this series. Now, again,
it's not great, but it was enjoyable. I gotta
give it two out of five masks. Um, it, okay.
Sure. It took place in the U S that's great,
but it's the same damn plot we've seen. And like
I said, the last nine, eight, nine, 10, 11, they're
looking for gold. They're looking for venom is
all about the get rich quick scheme or get get
enough money to take over the world yet they
never get enough money and you gotta think about
this though how how much money are they paying
or having to try to steal to be able to you know
do the upkeep on their vehicles I mean vehicles
don't last as long and especially with how many
times any of their damn vehicles. Okay, Matt
and Mask, I can forgive of this because Matt
is a philanthropist. He is a friggin' billionaire.
It's a little different because he has money
tied up everywhere. But Venom, it's like, okay
sure, you wanna go on a gold search so you can
have money, but you're never gonna get it because
Mask won't let you. I don't know, it's gonna
come up again. Two out of five. This one was
just... I'm tired of them trying to make T -Bob
human. He's not human. How about putting some
goddamn character development to Scott as the
human character? Yeah. I mean... It's very frustrating
when you see them pushing so hard to make T -Bob
have these human characteristics. And he shouldn't.
It's a machine. So we are going to go to the
next episode. Just through, Mr. Mayhem, I've
been seeing the treasure of Brian Baru with me
own eyes. Who is this Brian what's -his -name?
Sounds like a two -bit thief to me. Probably
one of your relatives, Rax. Shut up! I want to
hear more about this treasure! According to the
legend, King Baru left behind a lost pot of gold,
and I found it down by the rocks, just like I
told you. You told me! Now get lost! Rax, Stagger,
prepare the vehicles. Vanessa, check our supplies.
We're leaving immediately. But what about me
sharing the treasure? What do I get? Your life.
You'll not get away with it. May the curse of
a leprechaun's thousand fairy darts pierce your
black heart if he be disturbing the gold guarded
by the wee people. Gee, I sure hate to get stuck
without fairy darts. So does everybody have their
lucky charms when they were watching this episode
cuz it's time to follow the rainbow This is episode
49 of season 1 venom goes to Ireland to find
the treasure of Brian Boru At the end of the
rainbow, that's literally what it says. Oh My
god Let me think I can Okay, it's an Irish episode
yay Again a gold search, okay, I know usually
when you know the whole You know fall the rainbow
leprechaun thing comes up. It's kind of funny.
It's kind of cool But what it boils down to is
another boring gold search episode. Yeah, it's
played straight. It's just another gold search.
So, you know, we're in Ireland. We've got, you
know, the rainbow, the lucky pot of gold at the
end of the rainbow. They just don't do much with
it. There are other series that would have a
little more fun with that or find some interesting
dynamic way to play off that sort of story. But
here we just play it as a straight gold rush
or gold search. We've got several new team members
this time around. Who was on the teams this time?
We have Julio who is on the mask team. He drives
Firefly. He's an international missions expert.
Where the heck has he been? He's also a doctor
He is also a doctor and he shows up in some later
episodes we'll be talking about so we'll see
more of him but So we have a new member there
and then we have Calhoun Burns driving Raven
And when he's called it's kind of cool. He gives
water to the horse, but it's just out of reach
So he has to go back and move the bucket for
the horse And then on the Venom side we have
the regulars. We have Rax, Dagger, and Vanessa,
along with Miles. There's nothing to the plot
here. I mean, nothing. You don't even, like,
it would have been nice if they'd thrown Lucky
in there or if they'd thrown the Trix rabbit
in there or some, you know, some mythical creature
instead of just Matt being shrunken down to look
like a leprechaun. Well, they, yeah, they do
that. Not sure what to think about that. And
then they also have this curse of a leprechaun's
thousand fairy darts. Yeah. So that was kind
of funny. They, they talked about that. There's
this guy, Mike, who basically leads Miles and
Venom to the gold. He knows where it's at. And
of course, they're supposed to give him a share
of the treasure and they're going to cut him
out and give him nothing. So why did he even
bother to tell Venom about this in the first
place. If he knew where the treasure was, why
not just take it for himself? What was he going
to get from Venom? I mean, okay, if you know
where it's at, you can take the whole thing,
or you can tell this terrorist organization,
and they'll give you half of it. That makes no
sense. But one of the things that was kind of
interesting to lead off is that there was the
rainbow, but there was no rain. Yeah, so we knew
right away that it was some sort of hologram
Yeah And it was not truly outrageous no So we're
gonna get to the high beams in a moment I wish
we had a Thunderhawk instead of this rented car
Level one emergency select best agents for a
mission in Ireland. Oh boy The Fighting O 'Trackers
to the rescue! You're half right, Scott. Only
your half will be safe at the farmhouse. Julio
Lopez, occupation, position, vehicle code name
Firefly. Expertise lies in international missions.
Occupation architect vehicle code name Raven
amphibious vehicles could be essential Selection
approved assemble mobile armored strike command
advise also need Thunderhawk for this mission
All right, we are turn on the high beams. What
do you got? There were some pretty cool things
going on here. It was really nice seeing boulder
hill again, even though it was just for like
a second or two Because we hadn't seen that in
a long time There was also an interesting technique
that venom used to Get a couple of vehicles out
there to the gold site. So switchblade actually
drops down jackhammer and piranha Down it actually,
you know miles flew them in and then dropped
them down. That was kind of cool Scott and T
-Bob took a lot of shots at each other this time.
Yeah, Scott was calling T -Bob D -U -M -B, and
then T -Bob was commenting that Scott could eat
a double cheeseburger every minute if he could.
T -Bob was actually useful in this one, too,
I thought. They turned him to a surfboard. And
then, because they were caught out in the water
near the rocks in the surf, so... So T -Bob turns
into a surfboard, and then once he gets close
enough to the rocks, then he's using his arms
to extend from one rock to the other until they
can get to land. So I thought that was a pretty
cool way to use T -Bob in this episode, instead
of just shoving puns down his throat. True. And
then there was a really good shot that Vanessa
took at Rax as well. She says... Something like
close that mouth of yours before a bat mistakes
it as a cave Mm -hmm. That was pretty funny.
So what have you got for high beams? Hey Raven,
I had that toy Finally see Raven in the series.
Oh, yeah, you had that one. Cool. Yeah, I was
the one I had I had that one versus Thunderhawk
There are way too many bad puns and that's what
half of my notes are. Yeah, honestly is is the
puns sheep scalping training razor steel wool
And then Scott says my for T Bob says my four
leaf clover and Scott pipes in says you mean
our four leaf clover Scott didn't you want to
believe in the luck of the Irish let alone you
know all that stuff I do like Matt's line at
the end they leprechaun venom I thought that
was kind of cool other than that not much honestly
this episode is it's alright it's fun but at
the same time there's some pretty some pretty
bad moments in this as well yes there are So
let's go turn on the low beams in a moment Getting
to the low beams way too many shaving puns Yeah,
and what's the deal with Matt developing these
shears he develops some shears that Take like
half the time that it used to yeah Okay, I don't
know T Bob's intelligent talk no good just stop
Yeah, that was wasn't that after he kissed the
Barney stone or something yeah something like
that This is like the millionth time that switchblade
is down yet the next episode I guarantee you
it's back up and running Yes, that was one of
my low beams as well because it was smashed pretty
bad in this episode And seriously Matt allows
Scott to go off on his own or back to their hotel
or wherever by himself Such bad parenting. Oh
My god What do you got Well, you cover a lot
of ones I had but this in general this episode
is just a mess I mean, things are just thrown
together, it seems. We have Mike, this Irish
guy in the beginning, and he knows about the
treasure, like I said, and he was hoping to get
half a cut from Venom. And they give him nothing,
and you think at some point he's going to return
during the episode to inflict his revenge and
get back at Venom, and he just disappears. He
never comes back. And besides that, the battle
was lackluster. Again, we get venom doing nothing
more than chasing down some lost treasure of
gold. So Just disappointing overall. They didn't
You know do something more with this one. But
again, we didn't have high expectations going
into it knowing what the the title was We knew
there was gonna be golden leprechauns involved.
It it could have been worse, but It it just was
not good What are you gonna rate this one? I'm
giving this one two masks and that's being very
generous One Too many shaving puns just You know
you say this episode was supposed to be fun I
had no like I laughed maybe once And I think
it was at the very end when Matt did the leprechaun
venom trick Line yeah The rest of the time, it
was just horrible. So it gets a 1 for me. And
then we have the PSA. Yeah, don't use lighter
fluid, ladies and gentlemen. No lighter fluid,
kids. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, keep those kids
away from your grill. Yeah. Pretty much. So we're
going to get to the last episode of the day after
this. This is Cape Canaveral. General Wilson
promises you full support. If you need anything,
just ask. But I have to tell you guys, security's
checked this base thoroughly, and we've found
nothing. Thank you, Tower. We'll keep that in
mind. Now I suggest you clear the area of all
support personnel. Roger. like hot dogs on a
grill Vanessa she's all yours rendezvous as soon
as you're clear activating launch control Finally
up today is episode 50 of the series The Everglades
Oddities. So we've had two episodes of the show
in this podcast that take place in the U .S.
That's two out of three ain't bad. And, you know,
being in Ireland, I don't mind. What I mind when
they go overseas is if they go to China one too
many episodes, or if they go to the same place
one too many times, or if they just go to a nondescript
jungle too many times. That's when I really mind
the overseas location stuff. Going to Ireland,
just them having the episode in Ireland didn't
really bother me at all, but the Everglades oddity...
Matt Tracker is bitten by a venomous snake, and
while he recovers, Alex Sektor must lead the
Mast Team to stop Venom's plan of stealing the
NASA Space Shuttle. Okay. Alright. And that part
about the space shuttle, that is so secondary
to the other part of the story. And I did not
expect that. We spent a lot of time with... Matt,
having been bitten by this snake, you know, he's
in the bed. Julio is helping him out and telling
him he needs his rest. And, you know, Alex is
put in charge of the mission. And of course,
Matt isn't going to listen to doctor's orders.
He still has to get involved. But the whole deal
with the space shuttle, even though we lead off
with that with the two kids finding this, you
know, seemingly the space shuttle, In the Everglades,
it's not it really isn't Venom wants to steal
the space shuttle and it's a threat to national
security as Matt says but we don't really Understand
where venom was going to go with with that in
this in this plot as far as I'm aware It just
no is this they don't there. Yeah, they don't
Venom other than stealing the space shuttle they
have no nothing is explained about their plot
of what they're gonna use the space shuttle for
and when they go to when Matt and the team or
Alex and the team go to stop venom it's one of
those things where you know crap it's one of
those things where Whoever stops the shuttle
from going anywhere They take off the bottom
part of the shuttle and then Vanessa crashes
the actual shuttle. So I have no idea We have
no idea what the hell they want it for whatsoever
It's not even explained. Yeah, it isn't explained
I mean that's you know, there are a lot of mysteries
and masks and that's one for the viewers to decipher
because I Watched this episode and I kept wondering,
you know, what's the deal with the space shuttle?
Why does venom want that? You know, why would
they go through all this trouble to have a cardboard
mock -up in the Everglades? Which I don't really
understand why it was there to begin with maybe
it was part of their training or something But
then that doesn't really make sense. I thought
it was it was interesting Going into this episode
and you see the space shuttle or what is supposed
to be the space shuttle in the Everglades and
you're like, oh well, that's that's kind of interesting,
you know, how did how did that get there and
not only You know, how did they get there but
then you're asking Well, why isn't every government
agency trying to track this thing down? Because
obviously if it were missing everyone would be
out looking for it But you know when you get
past that then you're just wondering Why why
is venom after this? And a question never answered
so it's a big plot hole in this episode Yeah,
it very very much is and That's not a good thing
at all. So I think we are gonna hit the high
beams in a moment Computer, recommend personnel
best suited for this mission. Dr. Julio Lopez,
essential to monitor team leader tracker. Vehicle
code name Firefly. turning on the high beams
holy crap everyone stop what you're doing stop
listening to the show and just notice That Matt
is actually spending time with his son! It's
a miracle! It's a fucking miracle! Oh my god,
I love that this episode opens with them flying
planes together. We just had an episode about
warning children to not use lighter fluid. Why
the fuck is T -Bob manning the grill? I know,
I thought the same thing. That's my plane! Looks
well done to me. You fried my plane! Yeah, it
is not okay for robots to grill. No! Not at all.
Especially when the robot's name is T -Bob. Yeah,
pretty much. I love how they made Dagger crash
into the tree. That was awesome. Yeah. Alex and
the fact that he's in charge this time around
it's very cool something He made the team select
very cool and also very dear Having someone else
other than Matt in charge because obviously Matt
is laid up with this venomous snake bite It was
really kind of refreshing honestly I agree. I
like that dynamic, too. Now, it's kind of a low
beam for me as well because I don't feel like
they were able to do enough with it since Matt
didn't stay in bed. He got more involved with
this one than he really should have. If they
had just let Alex be in charge, take control
of the team, and have him be the one to make
the calls that defeated Venom, I think that would
have been really awesome. That would have made
this a standout episode. You know as it was they
basically kind of Pushed him to the back in this
episode and let Matt take all the glory So I
was a bit disappointed that they they didn't
take that a step further yeah the The funniest
thing might be the funniest thing out of this
whole series coming from T Bob. He's driving
Thunderhawk Yeah That might be the coolest thing
outside of the theme song and the original episode
one team meeting that might be the coolest thing
out of this entire series What did you have for
high beams? Well besides Alex being in charge
the other thing I did like as you mentioned with
T Bob that You know He was kind of able to jump
in here and help out Alex and the team by using
his radio to call for help to Thunderhawk So
and then you know, the computer in Thunderhawk
was able to take it from there. So I thought
that was pretty cool Also when the mask members
are being called up we get Julio again in this
episode I do not know what that guy in the karate
garb was doing in the dressing room It was really
odd. Didn't you think? Yeah, I don't know what
the hell that was He just he just steps in the
dressing room and then Julio takes off and the
guy steps back out just like You know wondering
where he went but just like I don't understand
the setting. I don't understand what This guy
is doing, you know, oh, you know what? Maybe
maybe he was in the doctor's office since julia
was a doctor And maybe maybe he'd gotten undressed
and he got oh, yeah. Yeah, that's that's what
it was. Yeah, okay um And it was also kind of
funny when ace gets called he's uh He's got an
apron on and he throws the apron on a on a female
dummy And then has to take off Yeah, that's what
I have for low beams or high beams Yeah, I mean
that Yeah, that That about does it for that one.
Let's go to the low beam. No, you don't You're
suffering double vision partial paralysis and
fever Matt you'd be a danger to yourself and
to the mission the answer is no Well, if I can't
play, I'll coach Julio. Come in, Alex. Sector
here. I used Dragonfly to rendezvous with the
team while you were asleep, Matt. Hope you don't
mind. I get benched and everyone deserts me.
What's your ETA at Cape Canaveral? ETA, 15 minutes,
and we have full clearance to land from the PNA.
There's a prelaunched test run scheduled for
the shuttle this afternoon. Perfect opportunity
for man. all right turning on the low beams uh...
he's a lot matt is allowing them on the mission
seriously worst father ever and it gets worse
later the venomous snake bite will be the downfall
of matt tracker i actually thought he was going
to die in this episode secretly hope more like
it but i actually thought he was going to die
Here's another animation glitch. They shot right
at Rhino's tires, yet they never go flat. No,
Scott, you cannot fly the Thunderhawk. And the
PSA was no running around pools, which that's
a good PSA. I don't mind that one so much. Yeah.
A better PSA, though, might have been to... Pay
attention to your doctor's orders, since Matt
wouldn't do that during the episode. That should
have been the PSA. You know, he was a wreck.
I like that, you know, he got bitten by this
snake. I didn't think that was going to come
into play during the episode, honestly. I mean,
they're out there in the Everglades and this
snake comes along and it does bite him and...
You know, it's poisonous so he ends up spending
a lot of time, you know back at the mansion Before
he decides that he's got to play the hero in
this episode Yeah, but they just they just focused
a lot on that one and I I just didn't really
see what the point of this episode was I mean
it was good in the sense that they were going
to give Alex a shot at leading the team and that
there was some drama and You know whether Matt
was going to pull through or not But we have
this other Plot in the episode that just doesn't
go anywhere and then What kind of cardboard would
would venom use to create this mock -up of the
space shuttle? I mean that'd have to be some
serious cardboard and they did a really good
job because you know Matt and Alex go out there
and they're able to stand up in this thing walk
around in it and It has some rudimentary Gages
and things like that in it, right? I mean, they're
probably just drawn on the cardboard, but It
looks like it's actual size of a space shuttle
and it's out there in the Everglades and all
the heat and humidity it Certainly wouldn't last
very long out there. Oh No, not after opening
the damn hatch twice The the door to go into
it, you know, yeah No, it wouldn't have lasted.
It's just one of those things. This episode,
I liked it better than the other two. I give
it a three out of five. What about you? Okay.
I'm giving this one a one. Just because I didn't
understand what the point of it all was. Yes,
again, it was good seeing... You know that Alex
put in charge and you know, we had some drama
there with wondering what was gonna happen with
Matt but That was that was really the the whole
point driving this episode and there were just
too many things Just kind of thrown into it.
This didn't make any sense Yep, nope, not at
all so we are gonna take a quick break come back
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we all have the power. Alright folks, just to
recap, scores for this episode. I gave the first
episode a 2, the second episode a 1, the third
episode a 3, Tim gave a 4, a 2, and a 1. We can't
even talk about what we're expecting or what
we'd like to see out of this series because as
we stated in the very beginning of this podcast
episode, they're doing almost the same crap over
and over and over again. There is zero character
development for any of the characters. I don't
know. Any thoughts, any final thoughts or anything
you want to talk about here? I like seeing some
of the new characters again. It's too bad they're
not developing those characters more. It is cool
seeing new vehicles because, you know, Even though
the plots aren't aren't the best This show does
deserve some credit for its beautiful animation
and the good Designs on the vehicles and the
models And actually the animation is very fluid
a lot of times, you know They're always going
to have some episodes during a lot of these older
cartoon series where you have like your your
C list or D list animators on it And it's not
gonna look as fluid and as nice But overall,
I think a lot of episodes look good things are
on model and So it does provide for an interesting
series to watch visually But as far as plus we
kind of know what to expect at this point as
you said we're Nearing well, yeah, we're nearing.
Well, that was actually 50 episodes now Yeah,
so, you know, we've only got 15 more episodes
in season one Yeah, yes, and and so we know what
to expect for this season next season. Maybe
they'll change some things I'm hoping so I'm
not expecting leaps in in plots or anything,
but Maybe they'll bring in some new dynamics
do something different to make things a little
more interesting We can hope and honestly I didn't
write any the only reason why this entire podcast
I didn't have any notes about the animation or
the music was because I'm so used to hearing
the musical themes now, you know, Scott and T
-Bob and the general overall, you know, general
overall good guy theme, you know, you have that,
the Venom theme, you have that. Very rarely do
I hear the instrumental version of the Mask theme
when Mask is doing their thing against Venom.
Animation. I'm so consumed with wanting more
about these plots than what they actually are,
than I was to be able to look for animation.
I pointed out that one error about the, about
Rhino's tires, but like, in general, I like the
animation a lot. It's not that I don't. It's
just that I haven't seen anything cool enough
for me to write down a good animation note on
it. Yeah. And even big blockbusters, you know,
they can look great, but that only goes so far
after a while you're just like okay you know
move move along there's there's it looks pretty
but you need story to go along with it and really
honestly i would take something that doesn't
have as good of animation but has a much stronger
story and you're right the i actually was going
to mention that as well as the music in the series
is good of course the theme song is incredible
but even even the series music the different
themes for The teams and all that's all very
good. I think Absolutely, so we are gonna go
ahead and close this one out Because there's
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