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In Dutch and The Horse Mystery Review

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About this Episode

The show returns from a two-year hiatus to discuss episodes 35 and 36 of M.A.S.K. The hosts introduce a new co-host, examine the series' persistent narrative flaws and character issues, and review the plots of "In Dutch," which involves Venom threatening the dikes of the Netherlands, and "The Horse Mystery," featuring the theft of prize-winning stallions.

Scott, T -Bob, where are you? Right here, Dad.

If you are looking for us, oh, why didn't you

just whistle? You have two lips, don't you? Come

on, you clowns. Hello and welcome to Mass Mayhem.

This is episode 15. I bet you're wondering where

the hell have we been the last two years. Well,

Miles Mayhem has had us locked up. Probably the

most confident thing he ever did was fool Optimus

Solo. He still has Optimus Solo captive. I'm

your host TF2 and Mike and introducing a brand

new host to Mass Mayhem, Toon Master Tim. Hello,

sir. Hello, everybody. I'm Mike. Thanks for having

me co -host the episode. I'm happy to be here

and been a long time GCRN listener, of course.

So it's good to be back on a podcast. We did

record a while back a GCRN Wars episode, Silverhawks

versus Thundercats, which was a lot of fun for

those who held on for the three hours of that

debate. very very unscheduled constant interruption

two -year hiatus I Plan to have this show done

before now really did Things just kept coming

up in Kevin's personal life and my personal life,

and we just couldn't couldn't get around to it

we deeply apologize to the listeners, but Tim

and I are here to finish it off and It's kind

of fitting that we come Back at episode 15 because

the shows only 30 the podcast is only 30 episodes.

So we've only got 15 more to go Briefly, why

don't you give the listeners some some info on

what's your history with mask is since we're

kind of starting kind of fresh and and what your,

you know, if you grew up with it and I know you

were listening when we were originally doing

the show and what your kind of opinions are on

the show so far. Okay, sure. Well, it was a show

that I knew about as a child. I saw the commercials

for the toys, but I didn't get a station that

the cartoon actually came on. So I never got

to watch mask episodes until Shot Factory released

that entire series set. and so I was excited

to get to watch it for the first time because

I did think the toys were very cool and I never

had any of the toys as I recall but my brother

did have the Thunderhawk you know that was such

a cool toy and a cool vehicle of course you know

I wanted to get Rhino but you know that never

happened for whatever reason and usually it's

funny though I think about it because you know

My brother and I were only separated by a year

in age. So usually we got something similar.

So I Don't know why I didn't get a mask toy as

well. I must have gotten something else It wasn't

a mask toy but must have been some sort of vehicle

because this is how things went You know, if

he got a GI Joe, I got a GI Joe, you know, yeah

if he got a transformer I got a transformer.

This is how it worked Maybe your parents decided

to be cruel and give him all the cool mask toys

and sell you with GoBots. No, we didn't have

any GoBots. Good parents, good parenting. Although

I did get to watch GoBots when I was younger.

I did not get to watch Transformers, so I did

miss out on that in my childhood. Yes, so what

are your initial opinions on the season so far?

We're starting in this episode of the podcast.

We will be covering episodes 35 36 and 37 What

are your initial opinions on the first 34 episodes

of the series? Well, I pretty much agree with

you and Kevin on a lot of the rankings for the

episodes There are some that are not so bad and

tolerable the nerds others that are just they're

just cringe -worthy as and we'll we'll get into

that with with these episodes this week too there

are some good ones and there's you know one that's

not so good in my opinion um they're they're

not the best i mean yeah it's kind of a mash

-up sort of of transformers and gi joe's good

way to describe the series but the writing is

just not very good no It really isn't. The plots

are not very strong, and you've had the same

cast of characters pretty much every episode.

I mean, they do mix it up with, you know, the

Venom team members and Mask team members, but

we know that it's going to be Venom that's, you

know, causing whatever trouble there is that

week. So it's sort of redundant and eventually

becomes uninteresting to a certain point. But

I still like the show. I still enjoy it for what

it is. Do you have any favorite characters or

least favorite characters? I don't know I don't

think that there are a lot of strong characters.

I mean they try to do some things with Some of

the characters like in mask in the mask team,

you know, they've got You know the Master of

Disguise, and Alex is really cool. He's very

smart, he knows technology, and he drives a Rhino,

so that's really cool. I guess the character

I probably like the most now that I think about

it is Slyrax on the Venom team, because he's

just always button heads with Miles. He doesn't

mind going up against him and just telling him,

you know, this is a stupid idea, or, you know.

He's almost like the Starscream, but he's not

quite to that level. But he's always kinda in

contention with Miles, and I like that. Yeah,

Rex doesn't have Starscream's need for control

of certain factions. Okay, least favorite characters.

I know that you don't like T -Bob, but I don't

find him that annoying. It's not it's honestly

it's not just him it's both him and Scott yeah

together they suck Well one of the things I do

find annoying about T Bob is His his puns and

just these terrible lines that he give that they

give him That's meant to be humorous, and it's

just it's just not funny But I don't I don't

I don't hate him. I mean he's okay, but He's

probably the most annoying character in the show.

I mean, he and Scott, like you said, but Scott's...

He's not as bad as some other sidekick, you know,

young kid characters in other shows. I might,

I don't know if I'm going to do this, but I really

want to get all of the classic 80s action cartoon

children together and do some sort of top 10

or top 20 best to worst or worst to best countdown

of who is actually the worst kid in an 80s cartoon

series. I still maintain it, Scott. Out of all

the kids in the 80s, out of those kids on Dragon...

Dungeons and Dragons, Spike and Chip from Transformers.

Who else? Some of the girls from GEM, the Starlight

girls. I really want to do that. I want to get

a countdown going from worst to best as far as

the 80s kid cartoon characters. I have never

been so infuriated with any other character other

than Scott Tracker. This kid just... Yeah, he's

written to always get in trouble. He's doing

things he's not supposed to do and his dad's

trying to go find him or figure out what he got

into. He's always messing around with T -Bob.

He's always tinkering with T -Bob and turning

him into a... popcorn holder or popcorn maker

or toaster or something and And that always causes

problems Yeah, they are annoying as I'm running

down the list of other characters like that in

other cartoons I'm beginning to see what you're

saying that yeah more annoying Most annoying

maybe definitely in the top five top three It's

up to, most likely. You know, there was one time

I really loved a joke that Scott did with T -Bob

and that was, I forget which episode it was in,

but they were at some restaurant or something

and they were eating spaghetti and meatballs

and we had, oh look, T -Bob doggy bag to go.

So I did kind of like that, where he had the

spaghetti in his little compartment or whatever

it was. Yeah, no. All right, folks, we're going

to get into the episodes right after this. Better

go after him, Scott. Looks like he's malfunctioning.

Oh, dad. He's your responsibility. Oh, T -Bob.

Computer, list any unusual events preceding the

collapse of the dyke. One ultrasound analyzer

unit stolen 17 days ago. Theft unexplainable

because device has only one purpose, to examine

dykes. It worked perfectly. This modified analyzer

destroyed the type with pure ultrasonic vibration.

You're sure nobody detected the source? No one

would think to look for something so simple.

Only animals can hear it. It drives them nuts.

Boy, if this little thing can do all that damage,

then this baby really ought to rattle some cages.

All right, folks, so here's the thing. uh...

optimus solo is no longer on this podcast as

of this episode tim has graciously taken his

place can you did tell me he was not interested

in finishing out mask uh... it the cartoon just

had no interest for him anymore so he went ahead

and told me that i'd go ahead and recast and

i figured oh hey let's bring tim and let's let's

subject him to the horror of this cartoon uh...

and here's the thing optimus solo is a very awesome

guy he's very in -depth guy he he goes Above

and beyond but I'm not like that. I this cartoon

to me is so bad It does not deserve me writing

out an entire plot synopsis. So from here on

out I will be reading the very short mini plot

synopsis from wiki. Tim will still give us what

optimus solo did with who what characters are

in each episode so he'll give us who's on the

mass team and who's on the venom team after i

read the plot synopsis so the first episode season

one episode 35 title is in dutch the air date

was november 15th 1985 a madman hires venom to

destroy the flood dykes in the netherlands if

their parliament doesn't allow him a political

position What do we have on the teams this time

around? All right. Well on the mask team we have

Gloria, Dusty, and Brad who joined Matt for this

adventure. Actually, I didn't write down who

was on the Venom team. I think it's the usuals.

I think it's Miles, Vanessa, Rax, Dagger. In

Dutch, oh boy. The plot is average at best, I

would say. You're going to destroy something

in order for the government to give you up to

the political, I mean, that's kind of like what's,

it's kind of like something, you know, from today's

standards, almost. Right, yeah. I mean, it is

sort of a typical average plot, but... I kind

of like what they did with it. I mean, we start

off with Scott, T -Bob, and Matt talking with

a gentleman. They're standing, you know, in this

field of flowers. It's very colorful, and he's

explaining, you know, the purpose of the dikes,

that, you know, Holland is below sea level and

all this, and, you know, they're worried about

the dikes possibly breaking, and then... you

know, we turn to some scientists or some some

guys who have this analyzer in the back of the

pickup truck and It's supposed to analyze the

dyke and make sure that it's it's safe and it's

you know, structurally sound and and they Have

this thing give us reading and say oh, yeah,

you know, it's it's gonna stand here for 50 years

But then before long like some weird things start

happening. We hear some dogs barking and then

the dike starts to break apart and busts and

all this water kind of flooding through and they

have to basically climb up a tree to avoid being

drowned in the water. So, I mean, you're kind

of like wondering what is going on. And the thing

that caught me was, you know, okay, well, what

was the deal with the dog's barking? You know,

how does that come into play? Which we find out

later on. It's the high, Venom is using ultrasonic

frequencies. Right. And that's how they were

able to break up the dike. Yeah, this plot is

way too average for me. I mean, it really starts

out as a mystery, but as soon as we find out

that it's Venom using Ultrasonics, and honestly,

as I watch this, it's been, like I said, two

years since I've even... Looked at this cartoon

since we did episode 14 way back in 2012 As soon

as we find out it's venom like oh of course Of

course it's going to be venom and it just I Don't

know these this cartoon. I will say this I I

know people will get sick of me saying this between

this episode and the final episode of this series

that we do, episode 30 of the podcast. I will

say this once an episode. This cartoon is, there's

only two good things about it. The theme song

and when they assembled the team. That's it.

Yeah, I tend to agree with that. I mean, there

are some episodes that aren't so bad, but it

is sort of the same. idea same plot recycled

over and over now the thing is you can look at

other cartoons and say oh well GI Joe for example

was the sort of same thing like we knew it's

gonna be Cobra yeah you did but you had a much

broader cast of characters and much much better

writers and better writers and mass doesn't have

that I mean I wish that they had the title on

the episode and we could see also who was getting

the writing credit First things like with with

masks is just basically a bunch of staff writers

And I know they have credits at the end of the

episodes so you get to see who the writers are

But I don't think I've ever seen them actually

credit the episode to a specific writer No On

DVD sets, I mean speaking of writing on the DVD

sets. There's some bonus features and I believe

that they talked to Some of the creators of the

show and they were talking about how they were

very careful about the plots and they the head

writers wanted to make sure that the the shows

were intelligently written and they It seemed

like the writers were put through a lot of I

Don't know they were given a lot of direction

on What they were supposed to write into these

episodes to make them better and I don't really

think they delivered on a lot of the episodes

I think there's only one episode out of this

entire series to this point that I absolutely

loved. I honestly don't know how many, I don't

know how many fives, five masks out of five I've

ever given this series, but it was season one,

episode 24, the counterclockwise caper, which

is set in Las Vegas. Yeah, I remember that one,

yeah. That is the only episode outside of the

very first episode when we first see the history

and the first team up The first episode in that

episode are the only ones in season one to this

point that I have absolutely said I absolutely

love The rest of them are either just mediocre.

I don't care or they're just god -awful Alright

so in Dutch the plot I don't feel is done very

I don't feel that it's executed very well I don't

feel it's written very well. Any other thoughts

before we hit the high beams, if there are any?

Are we talking low beams right now? No, no. Final

thoughts on the plot? I think you've pretty much

said it. It's fairly weak. There are a few action

moments that occur during the episode that I

think do carry it, even though the plot is fairly

thin. Yeah, the plot itself is just you know,

it's a typical recycled plot we've seen before

Yeah, all right. We're gonna hit the high beams

after this Mr. Tracker, the dikes are very well

constructed. After all, we've been doing this

for hundreds of years. Was there any sort of

natural force that could have... There were no

high winds, no waves, no earthquake. Then it

must have been an unnatural force. Come on, T

-Bob. Let's go back to the cottage. At least

one of these darn things flies, and I'm going

to find it. They're all the same. They're just

windmills. Oh, yeah? Oh, what about that one?

What about it? The sails are turning the wrong

way. Not that one, that one over there. You're

right. Let's check it out. At last, something's

blowing my way. All right, we are turning on

the high beams. This is more of a plot observation

than a real high beam, but I wrote down under

high beams for this episode. I bet that flying

windmill is a switchblade. Well, duh. Well, you

know what? Actually, I have here in my high beans

that I didn't expect the switchblade to be in

that flying windmill. So it was kind of a surprise

for me. I don't know why I didn't see that coming,

but for some reason I didn't. So I was like,

oh, that was clever. I thought it was just going

to be a windmill that was carrying some device

or some machine, but I should have known. My

other high beam is, Switchblade farted in Thunderhawk's

face. This image will be in the post, people.

Yeah, I actually like that. So what's happening

is Matt is trying to follow the flying windmill

in the Thunderhawk. And all of a sudden, you

know, the switchblade cuts loose. We find out

that it was a switchblade under there all along.

And then part of the windmill gets caught on

the windshield of the Thunderhawk. And so Matt

can't see. He's trying to get it off. And then

all of a sudden, Miles brings the switchblade

down in front of him and just turns the burners

on and scorches the windshield of the Thunderhawk

and sends him crashing into the water. It was

that was pretty cool. It was an awesome scene

because it really looked like. the switchblade

was farting on the thunderhawk after the fire

from the burners you see kind of the smoke and

it's kind of white you know smoke and whatever

else like I said the image will be in the post

for people so they can see what we're talking

about but it was just so friggin funny what stuff

do you have for high beams? well other than the

switchblade being hidden inside the flying windmill

Also, I like the animation this episode and I'm

not gonna like bring this up all the time Because

I think the story really is what carries the

episodes But sometimes the animations that's

really good and it's spot -on and this is one

of those episodes where it really was spot -on

I mean the characters and all the vehicles look

like they were Model it was very fluid. So I

that's one reason why I think I've you know enjoyed

watching this episode I said there was enough

action in between these plot points to keep it

moving I didn't feel bored even though it wasn't

necessarily a New plot, you know something different

that we hadn't really seen before yeah exactly

and as much as I you know now that I'm thinking

about this after the Thunderhawk lands I will

have a negative moment about this but after it

lands and is in the water and Matt realizes hey

wait rockets can fire underwater yeah I did kind

of like him streaking up the side of the the

duct or whatever it was it was a cool image but

just the whole The whole process of even getting

that done is so such a low beam So I think we're

gonna turn the low beams on after this Let's

turn on the low beams for in Dutch I'm already

cringing two lips Two lips? Really, T -Bitch?

Come on, that's a horrible line. Yeah, it is.

I had the same issue with that. I mean, in the

first few minutes of this episode, we're getting

so many puns, it is not funny. I mean, literally,

it is not funny. I mean, the two lips, and then

they're talking about the dyke holding back the

water, and T -Bob even says something like, you

know... Being on the level and they just kept

coming. I stopped running them down. I mean it

was just so bad There's only other there's only

one of the one I wrote down because it was just

so bad, but my next one is um Okay, seriously

switchblade blasted Thunderhawk with its jets

Thunderhawk looks blackened and bruised on the

hood it lands in the water without the blackened

bruising and Then when it returns the car is

upside down under the water Really? Come on,

animators. Oh, god. And then the one that I did

have for the other quote, wait a minute, I can

barely understand you. I so want to superglue

T -Bob to a nuclear bomb, seriously. Oh my god.

See, it's lines like that that give T -Bob often,

and that's one reason why You just you can't

like him. I mean How are you gonna like somebody

that's always saying things like that? It's just

terrible just terrible lies to give any care.

It's so terrible You know, I felt as I was watching

this I felt that the episode was just there honestly

It there was no real story behind it all like

there wasn't any great mystery there wasn't We

find out it's venom and and that's that and my

final note was Part of the PSA stunted growth

really come on T Bob What about you for low beams?

Well The other thing I have that you didn't have

is something we haven't talked about is that

the evil guy wanting to be prime minister He's

actually stroking a cat Yeah, yeah, he is the

evil guy who's stroking a cat. It's a James Bond

reference. Yeah, yeah That is true. So they were

they were Giving homage to that but I was just

like oh my goodness. This is so cliche I Think

the other change we're gonna do ladies and gentlemen

now that we're back here in the podcast is we're

gonna give the ratings right after the low beams

For me The puns were so cringe -worthy like I

get it. It's the 80s I'm not saying that mask

stands up to today's standard of television writing

or animation writing or any I I'm looking at

this show as it was and even back then I Grant

you I bet you as a five -year -old six -year

-old watching this I would have gringed at some

of these lines. They're so bad For me, I'm gonna

give it two out of five masks. There were, like

I said, I did enjoy the switchblade farting in

Thunderhawk's face, and I did kind of predict

that the windmill was going to be switchblade,

but the rest of it is just... What about you?

Yeah, I see what you mean. I did like some of

the action in this episode. I thought the animation

was very good and helped carry the episode and

it really pushed some of the action. I'm going

to give it three masks. I think it was kind of

in the middle of the road. It wasn't too bad.

It was one that I could watch again. I will never

watch this episode again. No way. You couldn't

pay me a billion dollars to watch this episode

again. Oh my god. Alright, we'll be back with

the next episode after this. I'm seeing it, but

I know no horse can do that kind of stuff. The

Lipizaner Stallions can. They're trained for

years. And they do this kind of stuff every day?

No. This is a special performance in honor of

the Amir of Amra. motivation and logic circuits

in me, and what does he use me for? Bop, bop,

horn, bop. So up next is the Lippy -Zaner, Lipizaner,

Lzonder, whatever the hell, mystery. Okay, Venom

steals the famous Lipizander stallions, where

an Arab purchases them for five million dollars,

but the Mast team member Dusty Hayes foils their

heist. I a mystery of horses really really your

standard horse smuggling operation like no seriously

yeah this reminds me if they didn't like if they

were if venom was gonna steal one horse instead

of all five of them or ten of them or however

many of these damn things that were if they were

gonna steal one horse you know fake its death

Then give it to the guy at some other points

so that no one thinks the horse is still alive

I'm like, okay, that's the King Jack episode

from Knight Rider. Mm -hmm. Oh my god And they

they do it for actually a small amount of money

for an organization like venom I mean they tell

the guy that they want willing that 1 million

dollars to steal the horses 4 million For something

else. Yeah, they ask him to cough up four million

dollars for delivery of the horses Which I actually

kind of like that I like that, you know, they

tell this guy Yeah, we'll do it, you know for

this much money and then they do it and you know

turn the tables and ask for more money I I also

I like the twist that Amir is the guy that wanted

to buy the horses from venom That he was in the

beginning. He was the one they were putting on

the the show for with the lip is honor horses

and then later we find out that he is actually

the one responsible for them being kidnapped

so that he can purchase them for venom and Yeah,

I thought we should have seen coming but I thought

I kind of did see it coming I was like that guy

is I was kind of like playing my own version

of of um what's his name from iron man 3 um crap

i was gonna say foggy nelson but that was that

was um daredevil um happy i was kind of like

the happy hogan of the 80s watching this episode

because i'm like yeah there's something suspicious

about this guy i'm gonna follow this guy because

i i kind of feel like it wasn't a shock to me

that Because I've seen so many plots like this

before because what they'll do is they'll set

the guy up in the beginning to be, oh, he's such

a good guy. And then midway through the episode,

oh, no, he's the one actually behind the whole

thing. Yeah, I see that. But at first, I was

just going along with it. And they didn't really

give any indication that he had anything to do

with it. At first, they're just there. You know

watching the horses put on this show and then

they get spooked and they all run off and they

run into This this This area where basically

they can't get out but all of a sudden they're

they're missing and so that's really kind of

a mystery that Is weaved in the plot as well

as the mass trying to figure out what happened

to these horses, you know, they ran Down this

hall and there's nothing but a bunch of locked

cages. So where did they go? And they see the

horse prints in the in the dirt And then it's

not until later that you know Scott says something

about what was it a Trap door or I don't know

something that made him think about that. It's

like, oh, yeah, obviously it's a trap door Yeah,

that's how they smuggled the horses out Yeah,

cuz they look at the they look at the old building

plans for the for the place And they find that

there is an old tunnel under it Right Plot Honestly

excuse me honestly out of the two episodes. I'd

watch in Dutch again before I watch this again

All right, we are gonna hit the high beams after

this Not through here to the staples. It's latched

from this side. And the tracks end here in the

tunnel. They just disappear. My thanks to you

for turning aside the stampede. Aw shucks, it

was my pleasure. I ain't had so much fun since

the hogs ain't Uncle George. But no one has found

the horses? No, the tracks end in the dead -end

tunnel. It is a shame. Myself. I would give my

entire fortune for just one of those beautiful

Lipizaners. So before we get to the high beams,

we forgot to include who the team members are

this time around. Who are they? For masks, we

have Dusty and Mac. Gloria and Buddy join up

later. One of the interesting things here is

that we actually see what they're doing this

time, which we didn't see in the previous episode

in Dutch. So we see Gloria's at the dentist,

and she's in the chair. And for some reason,

there's a girl next to her in the other chair

holding a teddy bear. And so Gloria has to jet

off, and she asks the girl if she can borrow

the teddy bear. And then Gloria puts the teddy

bear in the dentist's chair. And then we see

Buddy running to give a woman a bouquet of roses.

He's got a hot date. He's got a hot date, but

he just leaves her standing there with the roses

and takes off. Another thing that was interesting

is that when Matt assembles the M .A .S .T. team

in this episode, their names are not called out

by the computer. So we just simply flash to what

the team members are doing when they're called.

Right, right. And then on the Venom team, we

have Miles and Rax, who are later joined by Dagger

and Vanessa. All right, so for High Beams, it

gave me a laugh and an eye roll that Scott's

idea of fun is trouble. I love the shot where

Matt is pretty much right on top of Rax. I think

it was when he was in Thunder Aki, nearly. landed

the front end of the car right on Rax's head

I thought that was hilarious I wrote this note

and I honestly don't I you know I just watched

these episodes a day before we recorded this

I honestly don't remember why I wrote this down

but Matt Tracker is dead podcast over good night

everybody I don't It was after the Rex thing,

I'm not sure exactly, because I write my notes

as the episode progresses. T -Bomb wrecks a hotel

just like a rock star would. Right -um, Dusty,

yeehaw! Good lord. What'd you have for high beams?

Like that they use the mask powers more in this

episode. So that was really cool to see although

this almost sounds like a I Don't know. It just

doesn't sound good something like BSDM or something

the whip and the penetrator I Mean they actually

call out the names whip, you know, then I think

Vanessa's power calls out the penetrator No penetrator

is is Brad. Okay, it's Brad and then the whip

rather dusty She she has the whip okay But they

just said them basically back -to -back and it

was it became very it was like Struck a quarter's

like wow that doesn't sound good for little kids

to be you'll let that out as they're playing

with the mass toys Yeah, good And I said I actually

did like the twist of a mirror being the buyer

of the stallions is like I said I You know, I

should have picked up on that, but I was just

going along with it. So I thought that was a

nice twist in the plot. I also like the explosions

of the swish blade. Those were pretty cool because

it gets hit hard. I mean, that whole glass canopy,

it just shatters and then Matt completely blows

it up. I mean, the swish blade is blown to pieces.

Yeah, it is. And yet in the very next episode,

it's completely fine. Oh, yeah All right any

other high beams uh There were a couple of lines

I thought were pretty funny Scott so something

like where's your spirit of adventure and then

T Bob responds To the effect of I think it's

the first thing you took out Yeah, that is kind

of funny that's not as cheesy as some of those

other lines. Yeah I'll give them some credit

for that because usually it's puns as we said

before so that was pretty good All right, we'll

be back with low beams after this I wonder what

this is A sonic transmitter producing a sound

pitch too high for human ears. So this is what

they use to spook the horses Variable frequency

transmitter at 30 ,000 cycle note original research

done at international electronics believed stolen

by venom venom We are turned on the low beams

for the horse mystery show Stop being cocky Scott.

I Don't know he was doing something. I don't

know And seriously let it they let him go every

friggin time and say oh, but we got the real

culprit right here Yeah, I didn't like that either

You're just gonna have to catch them tomorrow

Matt Like I know but see here's the thing what

if what if they caught them Put them in jail

and then they escape they could always escape

so like Instead of consistently letting the bad

guy go every single episode What little beams

did you have for this one? Um, I just have one

but did you catch some of the strange lines that

buddy had? I mean like he called the horses crow

bait. I mean Where did that come from? I think

that's an odd thing to have in an animated show.

And why call a horse crow bait? That seems funny

to me. I didn't get it. And then there's the

other line, when he's saving the boy from the

stampede of the horses, and he answers Matt with

something like, whoa, I haven't had that much

fun since the pigs ate Uncle George. I'm like,

what? What did I just hear? I actually had to

go back and listen to it again. I'm like, what

did he just say? It wasn't that they attempted

to eat Uncle George, that they ate Uncle George.

Yeah, since the pigs ate Uncle George. If I heard

it correctly, I listened to it twice. Wow. Yeah,

the writing in this show is not very good at

all. When you said the horses would be probate,

all I can think of is Roger Rabbit. My Uncle

Thumper had to go to probate one time and took

these big pills, not prostate you idiot, probate!

Yeah, yeah. For Lipizander, one mask out of five.

After I watched it, and I watched it twice, I

watched it the first time to get the audio clips,

and I watched it the second time taking notes.

Even though I don't have a lot of low beams on

this one, it reminds me too much of every other

horse stealing plot I've ever seen. And it's

just that bad. What about you? I'm gonna give

it four masks because I really oh my god. Yeah,

I like the action on this one I know I know it

is a tired plot. It's something we've seen before

but I have to remember this is mask and this

is one of the episodes that It was watchable

I I didn't get bored with it. I was wanting to

see what happened and I said there was some good

action in it there were a few funny lines, so

Overall, I'm going to give it an above average

rating of 4. Alright, we're going to move on

to the final episode after this. But don't be

too long. I'm just picking up a couple of rolls

of film. Didn't any of them turn out? Sorry,

mate. They were overexposed. You and your fancy

camera. Now no one will believe we saw those

dancing rocks. Dancing rocks? Dancing rocks?

No, it was nothing. Really. Let's go, Mildred.

He probably thinks we got rocks in our heads.

Alright, finally up today is the Sacred Rock.

Oh boy. Here we go. The Sacred Rock. Venom frightens

a tribe of Australian aborigines who believe

their god Mimi is angry with them when Teba makes

an appearance. The tribe thinks he is their deity.

Okay, I haven't done one of these in a while,

but I hope I can do this with headphones on,

ladies and gentlemen, but... God this episode

is so bad. Oh, it really is. I mean this this

It sounds like this plot has been used before

in this series has it not? used before in this

series and every other series and I know it's

been used in in GI Joe Transformers even I mean

and I know writers recycled some of their stories

back then I mean, I just recently read an article

about the Transformers series and how the writers

didn't think that the shows would be remembered

20, 30 years later. So they've recycled plots

all the time. But this one, this is just bad.

Even for being a recycled plot, it's a bad episode.

Well, I know Optimus Solo loves, like, Indiana

Jones and treasure hunting and everything else,

and I've been pretty harsh, if I remember, on

a lot of the treasure hunting episodes in this

series, because I just feel that they're too

over. I mean, unless, now, I know it's not, you

know, 2000s is not the 80s, but, like, for me

to really enjoy a treasure hunt movie nowadays,

or a treasure hunt anything, it has to star Nicholas

Cage, and it has to do with the National Treasure

franchise. Other than that, I don't give a crap

about treasure hunting at all anymore. The only

classic treasure hunting movie I will ever watch

is Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. I find

the realization of treasure hunting just so boring.

It just bores me to tears. Well, I like the concept

of it. I like that idea and I think it can work

in in cartoons or film. Not in this one. Not

in this one, yeah, but even the National Treasure

films. I mean, I think that those were entertaining

and fun. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Those

are entertaining and fun, but this is so not.

It really isn't. And we take a long time to really

get things moving along, it seems. We don't even

really get to see Venom until after the first

Commercial break basically about halfway through

the episode is when they come in because we know

they're gonna show up Yeah, it's just a matter

of time before we figure out, you know what they

have to do with all this and of course You know,

they want the treasure But it's just not it's

not a good plot and it's just not very interesting

There's not really that much that's going on

especially in the first half of the episode you

know, you have the tourists that are there by

the sacred rock and we have the aborigines who

who are there, you know, and I don't really know

exactly what all happens in that first half.

It just seems like they're kind of wandering

around trying to figure out what's going on.

And at the same time, we're just left hanging

and not really very interested in what we're

seeing. It's a really bad episode. Yeah. I don't

really know what to say about it. I have no high

beams whatsoever. I have none. So do you have

any at all? I would just say that it was good

to see Bruce back again. We get to see Bruce

Sato. Yeah, I will agree with that. And the other

thing is I think the last five minutes there

was some pretty good action, but again it just

was not enough to save this one. We're gonna

head straight for the low beams after this. Alright!

Looks like they're doing a war dance. The natives

are restless, but no sign of venom. Don't worry,

I've got a feeling mayhem saving a last dance

for us. Alright, we're headed straight with the

low beams, ladies and gentlemen. Seriously, Miles,

Rax is as dumb as Dagger. Come on, get your facts

straight. Rax is not as dumb as Dagger. Agreed

no way. I mean Rex has it going on. I mean, but

dagger. Yeah dagger Yeah, he can call him dumb,

but not not fast no T bitch seriously, I knew

that was gonna happen You never backtrack like

that something happened where he backed up and

something hit him a rock hit him or something

or other T Bob did something stupid and he paid

the price for it hold the in phone they fell

down that tall ass mountain and have no injuries

whatsoever fuck that crap right there this is

the crappiest storytelling ever um the rock has

brought the sky god seriously t -bob ain't no

friggin god uh no shit you shouldn't have left

them alone matt duh I don't know why these writers

and these creators basically portray Matt Tracker

as probably the single worst deadbeat dad around.

Seriously. Med cabinets are as dangerous as venom.

So there's a PSA note for you folks. What are

your low beams for this one? I don't have anything

to add to what you have already said or what

I already said about the plot. Just basically

just how slow the plot moved forward and we just

don't know what is going on here. Again, we know

that reveal is going to be that Venom has something

to do with it. It took so long to get there and

I just lost interest. I did too, honestly. I

lost interest about halfway through. Honestly,

the scene where they fall down the mountain and

they don't die. Seriously, that kid and that

robot should be destroyed and the kid should

be clinging to life. Goose egg for me on the

rating. No masks whatsoever. None. just oh god

not not even a one for effort huh not even no

way if i have no high beams written down if i

can't say anything positive about this episode

then there no yeah what about you i'm giving

it a one um but that's being very generous i

i'm i'm on the verge of giving it a zero i would

not return to this episode again never never

again Alright, we're gonna take a short break.

You're gonna hear some ads and some other stuff

from the GCR and partners and other stuff that

we have going on and we'll be back with final

thoughts. We will also talk briefly about the

PSAs and more after this. What are you doing?

I saw this guy jump off a building in a TV show

once. T -Bob, you should never try a stunt that

you see on TV. Right, Scott. Stunt people are

trained experts, and some stunts serve just camera

tricks. Yes, I sort of. Stunts is my growth,

huh? Now you gotta remember, horses are bigger

than you, but they scare easy. And some of them

ain't too bright. Kinda like T -Bot? When you

walk around behind a horse, you gotta always

let him know you're there. How come? That keeps

your riding lesson from turning into a flying

lesson. Now he tells me. I can't find my comb.

Maybe there's an extra comb in the cabinet. Alright

folks we are back and just to recap for these

episodes today I rated In Dutch a two out of

five masks the horse episode one out of five

masks and the What tells the sacred rock zero

out of five masks? What were your ratings just

to recap for everybody in case they missed them

sure for in Dutch I was giving that one three

masks the lip is honor mystery I gave a four

and sacred rock gets a one That middle one's

just too crazy. The PSAs, what were the PSAs

for this one? Or these episodes? So in Dush,

the PSA was about not jumping, well, not trying

to duplicate stunts you see on TV. So T -Bob

jumps off the roof and lands on his feet and

basically shrinks himself. Yes. Because he he

supposedly saw something on TV Superman or something

where somebody jumped off a building. He thought

he could do it. Oh My god T Bob is the 80s version

of Johnny Knoxville's jackass What about for

the the horse episode This one tied in the horse

safety and just to let the horse know where you

are so that you don't get kicked So I thought

that one was fine and it tied into the episode.

Yeah. And for the Sacred Rock? PSA basically

just came out of left field. It didn't have anything

to do with the episode, but it has a good message.

It's just don't get into medicine cabinets. Yeah.

T -Bob was reaching into a medicine cabinet or

a cabinet and some medicine fell out, hit the

floor. And that's what happened. Yeah, I don't

like it when they do PSAs that have nothing to

do with the episode. I mean, the whole point

of the PSA back in the 80s was to teach the children

of a certain element from that episode of a cartoon

what not to do. And well, you know don't go reaching

into a medicine cabinet You know kids shouldn't

reach into the medicine cabinet by themselves

is a good message, right? It was very very out

of place here. Yeah, it was All right Where Where

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