GCR – Episode 56 – Top 100 Animated Films 20-01

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Geekcastradio .com presents... Top 100 Animated

Films Countdown. Welcome to GeekCast Radio. This

is episode 56. I am one of your hosts, TF2, and

Mike. Joining me is Optimus Solo. Hello. Yes,

sir. Steve Megatron. Hello. Hello. TV's Mr. Neal.

Howdy. And, of course, Mirabelle Dan. Hello.

How's it going? It's going. Today we are revealing

the top 20 of the GCRN Top 100 Animated Films

Countdown. It has been a long process getting

here, and after what we had two weeks ago with

Episode 54's backlash, oh my god. Kev, you got

any info you want to dump on us before we get

started? I haven't felt too much of a backlash

from anything. I just think, I can't believe

how fast we've gone through this list. um relatively

it seems like it seems like we just can't believe

we get it done before christmas just a couple

things i guess to look for in this one that way

i mean we're finally to the the end of the line

here we're finally to the top 20. um As we've

been going through this, there's been different

shifts as far as how many of these will we see

or how many more will this be? I mean, obviously,

there's no more room for anything else. So we're

getting to the time where the discussion shifts

a little bit. And I think one thing that I find

interesting looking at once you get to this end

of the list or any list like you're doing like

this, I think one of the main questions is before

people question, you know, should something be

on the top 100, should it not? Really, I would

think those arguments can kind of go by the wayside

for this episode. I would hope that anything

in our top 20, the argument's not whether it

should be in the top 100 or not. It's just whether

it's placed where it should be placed. But I

would hope that everyone would be kind of universal,

that all of these films deserve somewhere in

the top 100. And I will apologize in advance

for anyone I call out or... um reverse the train

on um as far as throwing them under it but something

that boggles my mind for some of these is is

how certain films can be left off of somebody's

top 100 list entirely um so i'll go about it

in the nicest way possible as far as uh talking

about uh certain films that were left off people's

list entirely um but it's uh it's gonna answer

all the questions here today we're gonna answer

you know not as far as stuff that we'll do in

the wrap up, but all the things will be revealed.

So people could figure out, you know, how many,

which decades are best represented, which companies

are best represented. And then we will obviously

comment on all of that in the wrap up. But it

should be interesting. I know nobody really knows

the results. So people might be nervous on, especially

since we did not give the honorable mentions.

So now it comes time to figure out. Was that

film that you've been waiting for just completely

left off of our list or did it find a spot in

our top 20? And if we didn't have them before,

I mean, I think last episode we saw three people's

number ones fall with Akira, Nightmare Before

Christmas and Grave of the Fireflies. And obviously

we had to had one fall previous to that with

Batman Beyond Return of the Joker. So that was

really only four people's number one. As we go

through, we will see an onslaught of people's

number ones, obviously, and people's number twos

and threes and everything. So it'll be interesting

to see how we boil this down. Dan, kind of go

around the panel here real quick before we get

into it and before we pass it back to Mike before

we start. But thoughts, fears, hopes on the journey

so far and on what we have left for today, Dan.

Well, after the threat last week, I am you talk

about fears. I am doing tonight's podcast with

a paintball mask on just in case Neil's number

one does not make the top top 20. But I guess

my fear, I think the best podcast this far, at

least talking wise, have been the ones that have

been a mixture or at least somewhat of a mixture

of different types of animation, whether it be

like anime versus traditional or, you know, classic

versus, you know, claymation or CGI. So. Part

of me wonders, when we get into this top 20,

will we see more of that? Will we just get a

lot of CGI animation? Will we just get current

stuff? Because that's been dominating the list,

at least in my mind, and that may not be number

-wise. So that's not necessarily a fear, just

a question I have. And two, I guess, seriously,

though, thinking about if anyone's number one

doesn't make the list, doesn't make the top 100.

because we don't know that at this point. So

that'd be kind of cool to see if there's actually

a number one out there that doesn't miss the

list completely. And two, I think I have an idea

of what number one is. I have some money running

on it in Vegas, so hopefully it turns out to

be correct. Is there any film specifically, Dan,

without naming the film, that you're worried

is not going to show up on the list at all that

you were hoping to see? There's one I'm worried

that will show up and one that I'm worrying that

will not show up specifically but So, yeah, I

guess the question the answer that question would

be yes All right, Mike thoughts before we get

into today on the countdown so far and what we

have looking forward to today well It's going

to be very interesting. I think It's gonna be

call into question the list will be if 20 to

11 are all Disney sequels. I will say this again

in the wrap -up. It's more so to address what

you said earlier about how people can leave stuff

off their lists. For me personally, Number one,

I was not going to go back and watch every animated

film there ever was in preparation to do this

countdown. No, no, and I agree. I know, I know.

I'm not saying this against you. I'm just telling

the people in general. I've seen on the website

comments of, oh, how can you not have seen this?

How can you not have seen that? And this, that,

and the other thing and everything else. And

for me, if I haven't seen a film, it doesn't

get ranked in my personal, you know. In my personal

list that I submitted for this collaboration.

So that may sound like I'm being closed minded.

No, I'm not. I don't watch every single animated

film ever. I kind of brought that up more as

a, not saying that someone was wrong for not

including it, but more so bringing it up on,

I'd love to have the conversation with people

on why certain things aren't included. Is it

because you haven't seen it? Is it because you're

just biased against it for some reason and you

ignore it? acclaim or its impact. It's false

acclaim is what you're getting at here. No, I'm

just saying in general what the reasoning is.

But no, as far as what's in the top 20, as we've

stated, only Optimus Solo knows that as we reveal

these. And I don't know. I mean, I'm hoping...

Honestly, really, I'm outside of maybe three

Disney films. I'm hoping the rest are not Disney.

Yeah, we'll have to see which companies are represented

in the top 20. And before we get to Neil and

Steve, throw out a few minor stats for you. We've

been going over points the whole time because

obviously the max number of points you would

possibly get was 2 ,000. And with Ratatouille,

which came in at 21 last week, we... reached

the 1 ,000 point mark. So everything in the top

20 obviously has over half the possible points.

And only two films that we will talk about today

appeared on less than 16 lists. So there's only

two films that did not appear on at least 16

out of the 20 collaborative lists that were put

out there. And something else we might talk a

tiny bit about is some rankings if you just took...

based off people that did rank them um but yeah

we'll see uh steve any thoughts on the countdown

so far or what's your without naming you know

specific movies what you're looking forward to

or in fear of for today's episode any films that

you are worried might not make it uh no i mean

i'm not really that worried i'm kind of curious

to see what is exactly is going to be in the

top 20 uh whether it be something everybody's

voted very highly on or just many people or everybody

voted on something um i'm just kind of curious

to see what comes in uh i'm a little disappointed

at the previous episode uh falling of my number

two but uh not to dig back down that rat hole

but i uh no i mean i'm i'm pretty pleased with

it so far i mean yeah the next time Things will

come out differently, but this time it's interesting,

to say the least, to see what's coming up. And

Neil, coming through, kind of joining the crew

as far as the actual records go for these last

40 out of the 100 and being able to listen and

look at what has come previously, what are your

thoughts just overall in general on the countdown

so far? Well, coming in late, I... I don't have

a strong opinion about a lot of the entries that

have come so far. Going into the top 20, there's

a couple Disney films that I'm pretty sure are

going to be there, and then there's at least

two that I'm kind of worried won't show up that

I'm really rooting for. That's about all I have

at the moment. Okay. And one last question for,

let's throw this one to Dan here. We have talked

previously about the companies and which ones

have shown up, which ones hadn't. And then there

was kind of a long, long wait for the first film

from Pixar. And we kind of decided that it was

much longer than any of us expected for our first

Pixar film to show up. We've had four Pixar films

so far in the countdown. Shot in the dark, how

many Pixar films do you expect to see in the

top 20? You know what, I'll cut it in half and

I'll say, I don't even know the total off the

top of my head, but I'll say 10. So half of the

remaining countdown could possibly be from Pixar?

Yeah, I'll go with the over and say 10. All right.

Mike, take it away. All right, so we are here

to reveal the top 20 numbers 20 through 1. And

here we go. All right, let's start off with number

20. You know, it's kind of interesting. Every

time we reveal one, it's like one less spot for

someone to see their movie show up. Let's start

somewhere where we knew we would go somewhere

in this top 20. We knew we would travel to the

wonderful world of Disney at some point. We're

going to start off. there and we're going to

start with a film from 1967 it was on everybody

except for two lists uh 1021 points the highest

it ranked though was uh the highest i got ranked

was number seven nobody ranked it higher than

seven it comes in at number 20 and that is disney's

the jungle book um like i said only two people

left this off of their list 86 rotten tomato

score um Mike, your opinions on Jungle Book starting

off our countdown at number 20. It's a memorable

movie, but top 20? No. Very enthused reaction

from Mike. Just no. Well, it's an interesting

film. It does, if you think about it, it probably

appeals to a lot of people who were adopted.

Because it is about an adopted boy who was adopted.

I don't know. It's one of those weird movies.

It really is. The Disney version is probably

the best version you could actually watch. It

doesn't just take the whole context of the story

to weigh out weird places. But all the Disney

movies that we talked about in episode 55 are

so much better than Jungle Book. I disagree with

that somewhat. I don't know. For me, if I was

to rank my top 10 Disney films, and I'm not doing

that, so I'm not saying 100 % I know what they

would be, but I'm pretty sure Jungle Book would

be in my top 10 list of all -time Disney films.

And being in my top 10 Disney films, does it

deserve to be in top 20 overall? I guess it would

come down to the math and figure out where it

ranks. I had it in my top 20 on my 100 list,

so I have no problem with it. I love the music.

This one is similar to me in how I feel and how

I react to Robin Hood. I don't know. I really

like these two. This is, I think, my brother's

favorite Disney film, so maybe that has something

to do with me being exposed to it more so over

my childhood. But I have no problem with this

one being in our top 20. Neil, what do you think

about Jungle Book? I like the Jungle Book. I

don't know if I'd put it up this high, but it's

a good film. I find the animation more appealing

than the actual story. Like I said last time,

I kind of like that era of Disney where it kind

of looks like it came off of a Xerox machine.

It kind of has that kind of sort of dirty look

to it, and that's what this has. I'd say it's

maybe five, ten spaces too high, but I still

like it. It's a good film, and I'm okay with

it being here. Steve, how do you like The Jungle

Book? You've had interesting opinions on, you

know, you've seen a ton of Disney films, if not

all of them, it seems like. And you said you

had quite a library of them. And you have some

interesting opinions on some of them. How do

you feel about The Jungle Book? I find this one

a little bit more enjoyable than some of the

other ones. Example being like Cinderella or...

Dumbo or stuff like that. I find I can watch

this one more than those films. So I definitely

can see where it belongs in the top 100. I don't

know if I would put it in the top 20 per se.

I could have seen that more or less than the

previous episode that we recorded. But I mean,

I don't have a problem with it. Overall, I mean,

the voice acting's fun and the songs, the animation

actually isn't bad for the time compared to some

other ones that were around that time. But funny

enough that it's this particular number, it's

the 19th animated feature film by Walt Disney

animated series. Definitely. It's funny that

it ranks this close to that number. But yeah,

overall, it's a good film. Like I said, that's

where I would rank it is in maybe the 40 to 21

section. And interesting, as I said, also remember

that I said it landed on 18 lists, but nobody

ranked it higher than 7. So this was one of those

cases where it got up to the 20 mark more so

based on... universal appeal and that it was

on almost everybody's list and not so much that

it was so high on anybody in particular's list.

I mean, if you average it out, it would have

probably fallen into our 40 range somewhere based

on how it was voted on. But so many people had

it that it, that it falls into our number 20

spot. Dan, what's your reaction on jungle book?

I think it's 100 % belongs in the top 20. I mean,

Maybe a few spots too high. I probably would

put Dumbo and Pinocchio higher than it, but something

like Robin Hood and some of the other Disney

movies we talked about, I think it's superior

then. And yes, like Neil mentioned, the story

isn't all that dynamic or there's not much to

it, but I think what works with it is that it's

just loaded with interesting characters. We mentioned

with Bambi that the main character in Bambi is

not that interesting. It's the characters around.

And the same thing with Jungle Book, you know,

you have Baloo, Shere Khan, just this assortment

of interesting characters that you really just

traveled, you know, in between back and forth.

And I think that's what makes Jungle Book work.

And, you know, Bare Necessities, one of the best

Disney songs of all time, I would say top 10,

top five. And two, I mean, this also let us get

Tailspin. So points for it there. I think, too,

if you had to take a Disney film and ask people,

like if you were asking like a general consensus

or just like a general survey on, you know, name

your favorite character from a film, I think

you bring up a good point. I think Jungle Book

would have the most different amount of characters

named somewhere in there, whether it be King

Louie or like you said, Baloo, Bagheera, Shere

Khan, Mowgli, etc. Like there is so many different

people for people to either relate to or gravitate

towards compared to, you know, your standard

film where you have, you know. one two maybe

three characters that people really are drawn

to so i think that's part of its appeal i think

the variety of characters and the music has a

lot to do with it um all right so we start off

with the jungle book in the wonderful world of

disney and should be interesting like we said

we had predictions on how many pixar films we

we might see i guess i should have asked how

many disney films will we see so let's see where

we go from here 19 all right at number 19 we

stay with disney For a unique Disney film, I

guess, going back to 1940, at number 19, we have

Fantasia. It is only on 14 lists. That is the

lowest we will see in this entire episode, a

film only appearing on 14 lists. So those people

that did rank it, ranked it pretty high. And

it is another number one to fall. One of our

contributors had this at number one, so they

will be somewhat disappointed. Rotten Tomatoes

score of 96. If anything, it deserves to be mentioned

on our countdown for its uniqueness, for its

impact, for a lot of kind of intangibles, I guess

we'd say. We ended with Dan on this last one.

Let's start with him on this one. Dan, what's

your opinion on Fantasia and how it fits in?

to all these other movies we're talking about

well it's certainly beautifully animated there's

no doubt there and i remember as a kid we watched

this in like music class like every year and

uh just you know just the use of classic uh you

know the music in it is is well handled and all

the different little stories and honestly most

of them i don't remember uh you know the the

one i think everyone remembers is that with like

mickey and the i can't think of the name of it

but the with all the rooms and whatnot but uh

Certainly, I'm surprised to see it this high.

I don't think I ranked it in my top 20. But,

I mean, on an animation standpoint, on a music

standpoint, it's certainly an achievement. Steve,

have you seen Fantasia, and what's your opinion

on the film? That's one of the few I've skipped.

Gotcha. And it's definitely not a film for everybody.

Yeah, I mean, one, it's... the the that time

period uh but i mean i i don't necessarily have

a problem with it showing up i just don't i i

don't have the information to back up one way

or the other fair enough um neil what's your

opinion on on fantasia a fan or not i like it

it's it's basically a music video done to uh

classical music What I like about this movie

is that it's basically a compilation. I think

every single composition is done with a different

director. And so you're getting different animation

styles throughout the entire picture. And I wouldn't

say that I'm a classical music aficionado, but

it did kind of give me some appreciation for

classical music. an album as a kid that was the

nutcracker suite on one side and right of spring

on the other and it was uh no it was dance of

the hours never mind but it was uh it was done

specifically for this picture it was a disney

release um i think i think my favorite one is

actually uh night on bald mountain that's where

all the cool animation is the big demon thing

on the top of the mountain and he's summoning

demons they're all doing a dance you know And

then it ends with Ave Maria. Excellent film.

I was really hoping it would show up in the top

20 just because it does deserve to be here. Ironically

enough, I didn't rank it because I didn't know

if it really counted because there are some live

action portions. I think there's a bridge to

the whole thing that just has the performers

and live action playing. But I'm glad it's here.

Yeah, it's kind of one of those where the animation

kind of was present enough to be an overwhelming

majority of the movie seems to be. I mean, it's

been a while since I've seen it, but from what

my memory holds, it's like in comparison on the

flip side, like Mary Poppins is, you know, 85

% live action and has some animation thrown in

there. This is like the flip version of that,

I guess. Not that it has anything closely related

to Mary Poppins. But I agree. I mean, I think

some people might be surprised about it, but

I definitely think it deserves to be on the list

and in the top half of the list. Whether top

20 or not, I think it comes down to math as far

as which ones are in it, which ones aren't. But

it's definitely deserving to be here somewhere.

Like I said, some people might not enjoy the

film. And I think kids at some point, you know,

maybe the first time they see it might be a little

bit confused if they're used to regular Disney

films. Regular, I say, because lack of a better

term. But I'm happy to see it and happy that

it comes in here. Interesting to be back to back

with Jungle Book, which is definitely on the

other end of the spectrum for Disney. So, all

right, let's see. Let's see who other number

one ranking films we can have drop by the wayside

as we make our way through our top 20. Well,

it takes skill for another company to wedge a

film into the Disney and what we were thinking

might possibly be Pixar dominated top 20. But

number 18 has done that. Number 18 is a film

from 2001 from DreamWorks. And that would be

the original Shrek. 1 ,038 points on 15 list.

Fantasia was only on 14 and Shrek was only on

15. Those are the two lowest as far as the top

20 goes. Everything else is everybody. Every

other film that comes in will be on more list

than that. It was ranked number one by one of

our contributors. So we've had consecutive number

ones fall. 89 Rotten Tomatoes score and a DreamWorks

appearance in our top 20. Dan, how do you feel

about it? And is it the last? I would say so

unless there's I would I definitely think this

is probably I don't think it's the best DreamWorks.

I think that's how to train your dragon, but

certainly the most notable one and probably the

one that really launched DreamWorks animation

to, you know, to compete, actually show it can

compete with Disney. So on that end, I could

see why it's deserving of top 20. I don't have

an issue with it being a top 20, similar to like

the Ice Age movies and other films. Like I think

it gets hurt a lot by just. unnecessary amount

of sequels. I think if it stood by itself, it

wouldn't be, you know, I think it's kind of people

have turned the table and started disliking it

a great deal. But the original, I think it's,

you know, stands on its own. Good voice cast,

Mike Myers, I think is, is effective as Shrek.

And Eddie Murphy as Donkey, I think when this

movie began, that's when that character, you

know, obviously stole the movie and he wasn't

overused too much as he was in the later films.

So I think it's deserving of top 20 just based

upon. what it did for that company. Mike, agree,

disagree? I agree. I don't agree with the whole

sequel thing, though, because out of all the

sequels we've talked about, Shrek, by far, out

of the ones that have shown up on the countdown,

Shrek has had the best ones, minus Shrek the

third. That was just a travesty. And outside

of Despicable Me 2, which you had right in your

top. Right, but I'm saying, like, that have had

more than one sequel at this point. Shrek, the

first one I saw, I remember seeing this in theaters.

It was cool. It was basically a PG version of

Axel Foley as a donkey, which is kind of awesome.

Oh, he is an ass. Yeah, he can be. You know,

there are a lot of memorable lines from this

one. It does something with fairytale storytelling

that hadn't been done before, where the ugly

guy wins. And it's more so a commentary on it

doesn't matter what you look like. You know,

it more so matters about what your personality

is. And I think in the top 20, it deserves to

be where it is. Alright, fair enough. Neil Shrek

in our top 20. Possibly our last DreamWorks film.

Is that how it should be? Probably. I have to

make a confession. I was probably one of those

people who dinged it for the sequels. Because

looking back on it, yeah, it is a lot better

than maybe I gave it credit for and a lot of

other people did. So it does deserve to be here.

I like that it... It takes the fairy tale thing.

It actually takes it away from Disney. Because

Disney has had a virtual monopoly over fairy

tales for so long. And this movie finally came

along and said, you know what? Pinocchio is going

to be in our movie too. And so are the three

little pigs. And so are like all these other

characters that you're used to seeing only the

Disney versions of. So that was cool. I agree.

Steve, are you a Shrek fan or not? I was in the

first film. This is the first film. I understand

that. I'm just saying that it's got the Ice Age

syndrome to me. The more they go on, the more

I hate them. So, yeah, the first film, and I

really like the touches that were thrown in there.

I like the voice cast, the animation, the fact

that they kind of played somewhat dirty jokes

as far as the kind of fairytale characters are

concerned. uh little kind of pokes at everybody

in there so it was it's it's definitely deserving

of being in the top 20. Yeah I definitely think

I had a unique take on on uh something we hadn't

really seen done before and I did it successfully

um so much so that it apparently felt like it

could continue to do that over and over and over

again um so yeah I agree with most of what you

guys have said I think it it's deserving for

its impact and it definitely was one of the most

popular. films there and franchises for a while

so that definitely says something about it. The

other thing I want to bring up about not necessarily

arguing with Steve but the whole Ice Age thing

they pretty much when they got to Forever After

they saw how the plot was progressing and they

said okay we're going to cancel no matter how

much money the film makes or doesn't make we're

going to cancel the fifth one and this is where

Shrek's journey should end. So as far as I know,

as far as I can tell doing research online, there

are no plans for, you know, an Ice Age type of

thing with the Shrek franchise. And that's why

I give it a lot more credit than most people

do because, yes, it had two sequels in the middle

that are kind of iffy at best with Shrek 2 and

Shrek the 3rd, but... Overall, the franchise

itself really introduced, as Neil said, you know,

interesting, different take on different characters

and really lovable characters, characters that

you, you know, find funny in different times.

And I mean, the whole gingerbread man thing,

I mean, come on, who didn't laugh at that? Every

different time, something different happened

with that. But yeah. All right. Well, we've been

to Disney. We've been to DreamWorks. Let's see

which company we will go to next. You know, I

haven't brought it up so far in the countdown,

but I was interested before we started this whole

process and this whole project, how this, I guess

what I could call sub genre of Disney would fare.

And I was curious to see how they would rank.

And I really haven't brought it up up to this

point, but. Outside of, I guess, what you could

call the modern ones, Dan, are you surprised

we have not seen any of the classic Disney princesses

yet? I honestly didn't even think about that,

but that is a good point. I mean, we saw like

Pocahontas and Mulan, I guess, if you want to.

I guess they're thrown into that group as well.

And I guess the princess and the frog, too, but

no, not really. That's too modern. That's not

classic at all. I didn't say classic. I just

said Disney princesses has become a thing that

people... I mean, there's toys about Disney princesses.

There's everything about Disney princesses. But

yeah, we haven't really seen any of the classic

ones until now, obviously, alluding to this.

And that's at number 17 in the first Disney...

princess classic version, I guess you can say,

that we're seeing is from 1950. And that is Disney's

Cinderella coming in at number 17. It was on

17 people's lists. Nobody ranked it higher than

five. Rotten Tomatoes score of 97. Cinderella,

our first classic Disney princess, falling into

our top 20 at number 17. Let's see what this

group of guys has to say about Cinderella. Let's

start with Mike. I like the film. It's interesting.

It kind of gives you in its plot the whole happily

forever after, and you don't really need a sequel

to it, even though there were two sequels. The

first film... Again, just as I said with Shrek,

there are so many memorable characters with this,

between Bruno the dog, Lucifer the cat, the mice.

And again, it seems as if Cinderella, who is

the main character, she is not the main focus.

Everyone else around her is the main focus. She

is the cause and they are the effect. And by

them being the effect, they then... just cause

her to just go crazy and it's just one of those

things where it's a whole back and forth between

her and the wicked stepmother and the stepsisters

and and the and then all the all the animals

it's actually this movie is probably the best

disney has ever done with uh combining humans

and animal interactions as far as that goes like

okay sure you could argue 101 dalmatians but

that's more from the dog's point of view I mean,

you know, we even said, I don't know if I said

this or not, but the whole opening monologue

of 101 is from the dog's point of view, whereas

here it's more of a melding of the two and having

it in the top 20, I think it's good. I just hope

one of the other ones isn't on here at all. And

interesting that there must be a couple of people

that are anti -Disney because... Two people in

particular left both Jungle Book and Cinderella

off of their top 100 list. I won't call them

out because they're kind enough to contribute

to us. Dan, your thoughts on Cinderella being

in our top 20? It's not one I personally gravitated

towards a huge amount. I did rank it. I'm not

sure where. I don't know. For some reason, it

just never appealed all that much to me. I remember

just being a kid. rather watching other disney

movies at the time i had three sisters so i did

have to end up watching this a great deal i mean

there are certain sports that i did like obviously

just the fairy godmother and the transformation

scenes those are a lot of fun that song pippity

boppity boop again like like uh bear necessity

is one of the let's say one of the best disney

songs and i do like mike mentioned with the animals

the the mice What I love the most is what I cared

about the most. I could care less about Cinderella

and her plate. I care more about those mice.

If we were going to have a classic Disney princess

in our top 20, is this the right one? Just the

princess or so? I don't know. I would go with...

There are some other ones I think I'd go with.

I don't have an issue with it being in top 20,

but I wouldn't call it my favorite Disney princess

movie, which is weird to say out loud. And I

forced you to. No, I'm just kidding. Steve, what's

your thoughts on Cinderella and does it deserve

to be in our top 20? I am personally not that

much of a fan of the film. I've seen it in all

of its sequels that are increasingly bad. But

I would never have ranked it in the top 20, but

I can see why some people could have. Or the

fact that all of us have ranked it somewhere.

higher up and it somehow got enough points to

get here but yeah it's kind of similar to not

i mean to interrupt you but kind of similar to

jungle book where it's on so many lists but nobody

ranked it higher than five um so it it was more

so that it was just on so many lists i think

if you were taking the average it'd be in our

30s somewhere but being on so many lists bumps

it into our top 20 continue though but yeah i

mean i i can i can kind of see that uh I don't

have a problem with it, but I don't know if I'd

put it in the top 20. I know Mike wants to take

a moment probably to defend Disney sequels in

Cinderella's case. I don't know. The only one

I defend is Twist in Time because it did, again,

talking about something that it did with the

story that we hadn't seen before. And basically,

in that film, The stepmother got a hold of the

wand and trapped the fairy godmother and then

went hog wild with it and took everything away

from Cinderella. I mean, it's your classic takeaway

story, but it was something I was never expecting

because I figured the crappy Dream Come True

sequel was going to be it for this franchise.

And then they released Twist in Time and I was

like, oh, this is actually kind of cool. Right.

I won't comment on Disney sequels at all. Neil,

your thoughts? I haven't got you yet on Cinderella,

and do you think it should be in our top 20?

No, I had it much lower than this. I don't think

it belongs in the top 20. Of all of the Disney

princesses, I think this is one of the least

interesting. She's kind of in Mary Sue territory

almost because it's basically a story about someone

who lives under terrible circumstances. And then

comes out of it when a wonderful man rescues

her. You know, I don't think it's a very interesting

story. I mean, the animation is nice and the

songs are okay. It's a film, yeah, without the

animals and the songs, nobody would... I mean,

the only interesting thing about this movie is

June Foray is the cat. Fair enough. Yeah, I can

see where you're coming from. Yeah, if you strip

some of the stuff away from it, kind of the fluff,

you're left with something that maybe a lot of

people wouldn't be interested in. But hey, what

does a bunch of guys know talking about Cinderella,

I guess? I know we've already had the film on

our countdown quite a ways back, but I feel like

we're going down the rabbit hole here. I had

to bring up something about Disney princesses,

didn't I? Let's knock out another one at number

16. Another classic Disney princess. Funny that

Mike commented something on the last one. Oh,

no. This film would be number 16 on our countdown

from 1937, what a lot of people claim as the

best animated film of all time if you look at

certain rankings and lists, and that is Snow

White and the Seven Dwarves. Over 1 ,100 points

on our list. Only two people left it off of their

list. That would be Tim. And none other than

Mike himself, so he'll get to defend that a little

bit here. The only two people that left it off

their list. Nobody ranked it number one, number

two, or number three. It got ranked number four

as its best ranking. I will have some opinions

on Snow White in a second, but let's just let

Mike get on his soapbox and take it from here.

I remember watching Snow White as a kid, but

I don't remember how... I didn't remember until

we did the episode in ToonCast Classic of how...

convoluted that plot is. You want to talk about

a plot, you know, Neil was talking about the

plot for Cinderella is just bad. This is even

worse. It really is. First of all, where are

any of the adults in this movie? Because the

seven old midgets that want to do stuff to Snow

White don't count. Secondly, who's there to stop

the Queen? from doing whatever. Why does she

want to capture Snow White other than, oh, oh,

I must have her beauty. Oh, I mean, so many,

you know, I mentioned earlier about the Jungle

Book, the different versions of the Jungle Book,

so many different versions of Snow White, the

more crazy, more wacky, more, oh my God, how

did they get away with that, are better than

this movie. And, you know, and I'll transition

to Kev here for a second because when we did

ToonCast Classic Episode 29, you had brought

up... How is this, you know, the standard of

being beautiful with this chick? Oh, yeah, I

did go on a tirade about how it must be a sign

of times how people found Snow White to be the

object of the most beautiful person in the world

when, in my opinion, she's the ugliest Disney

princess we've ever had. Anyway, that's neither

here nor there. I guess kind of going back and

forth with you a little bit here because we definitely

shared our bashing of this film on. the tooncast

episode but what i will say is is my point is

not okay my point is that i have a problem with

people just blindly ranking snow white as a film

as as the best of all time or the best animated

film of all time just simply because it was one

of the first uh if not the first successful animated

film or the thing that's you know kind of started

all off for disney etc etc as a historian i have

a problem with things being ranked highly just

because they were first um but unlike you I still

feel it deserves to be ranked in the top 100.

Not this high, I don't think. Well, you didn't

have it on your list at all. Right, because I

don't like the movie. Okay, so I guess there's

some separation of bias, and if something still

deserves to be in a top 100 list, I would still

rank it in the top 50, if not top, I don't know,

40, 30 maybe. I could have no problem with it

being in our top 20 as long as it's not number

one. That's my issue. Let some other people get

in on this argument though that maybe be able

to defend Snow White a little. Dan or Neil? Well,

I think I'll defend it. For one, regarding people

ranking it number one blindly, I feel uncomfortable

saying someone's ranking something blindly when

I don't know the reasoning for it. So I think

that's kind of, are the people that do that?

Maybe, but I don't think there's... no basis

whatsoever to rank this that high. I personally

didn't, obviously, because no one ranked it that

high. I'm not sure where I had it. I think I

had it in my top 10. And I agree with you, Kevin,

that just because you're first doesn't mean you're

best. Just because you do some sort of innovation

doesn't necessarily mean the overall quality

of the film is great. But I think you do have

to consider, I did consider some of those factors

when I ranked it. One, the risk that you're taking

like there is if no if you were to live in a

parallel universe where Snow White was not a

success where Snow White critically financially

we don't know what the ramifications could be

more so than any other movie in some ways we

would we probably get animation still of course

I don't think that any movie is that powerful

but would we get the powerhouse that disney is

who knows it may have came may have came later

um regarding the story being convoluted i don't

agree with that at all i think the story is rather

simple it's i and you know to say it's like well

what's what's the witch's mission or why does

she care about her beauty i mean that's pretty

i think it's pretty basic you know you look at

where the fairytale is coming from i mean there

are proverbs they are teaching different lessons

about um, the negative qualities of being a human

and whether it's feignness, whether it's greed

or, or those different areas. So I think that

is why that's simple. There is that simple story.

I mean, most fairy tales, you know, are obviously

meant for children. I, I, or in some, you know,

in some extent, so you're not going to have this,

you know, gigantic story full of a lot of different

components. It's basically, you know, going to

be simple and straightforward. And I think that

like we talked about, it's kind of a, you know,

we're going in circles here, but with the characters,

the seven dwarves, you know, how those kind of

set the standard for what Disney was going to

do with, it said that Disney formula, you can

argue the Disney formula, you know, this is good

or bad, but what came after definitely was impacted

by Snow White. Like I said, it doesn't necessarily

mean that makes it a better movie, but I do think

you have to get credit for that. And regarding

her beauty, I don't know. I think that's really

a matter of taste. So it's hard to really argue

against that. Plus, you know, this is 19, you

know, this came out in 1937. The ideal beauty

in 1937 is a lot different than, you know, the

ideal beauty now. You know, you look at a couple

of magazines or whatever. You know, Snow White

was very much a representation of that time period.

So I think it's unfair to criticize it for that

as well. Oh, no, that was that was more so tongue

in cheek. That's just I understand that that's

just a personal. Yeah, I get what I get what

you're saying. I mean, I mean, what I did here,

probably not partially because she's a cartoon.

So I don't I personally don't find cartoons attractive.

Well, you know, Jessica Rabbit aside. Because

everyone said that at the same time. So I do

believe it does belong in the top 20. Not just

because it is one of those instances where it

had a huge impact on a medium, but it's also

a good movie. I mean, I think that says something.

Is there any legit reason outside of not seeing

this film for someone not to rank it in the top

100? legit reason i not in a top 100 i don't

think so okay um neil thoughts on snow white

and everything that's been said so far hmm well

i don't i don't think it's the best disney film

by a long shot so i wouldn't put it in the top

20 i had it ranked somewhere around 50 and i

think most of that was because uh historical

significance and uh you know just for being the

first animated film ever But when I look at the

film, just the structure of it, I agree it is

a simple film. I don't see it as convoluted at

all. The problem I have with it is that the characters

aren't very interesting. The motivation of the

queen, Snow White, is another Mary Sue. And even

the prince, he just kind of shows up at the end.

He's like, yes, I am here. And the dwarves are

probably the only sort of real characters in

the movie that you can identify with. I think

the version of this movie I would want to see

is a commentary track with the gremlins watching

it. Just because I've seen this so many times,

and I don't think it's a terribly interesting

movie, but I think it's a movie that everyone

should watch. And it's not a bad movie, but I

don't think it belongs in the top 20. So we definitely

have some different opinions all the way across

the board. We have extreme hate on one hand,

a couple people think it deserves to be in the

top 20, some of them have it around 50. Steve,

where do you fall on the spectrum? I definitely

see that it deserves to be in the top 100. I

don't know if I would say that it, I would say

in the latter end of it, it's more of those hi

-ho, hi -ho, off to hell it go. type movies for

me. But yeah, that's pretty much my opinion of

it. I've seen it. I don't really care for it

all that much. So one Disney princess followed

by another as we've gone from Cinderella to Snow

White. And just like that, there's only 15 spots

left in the countdown. So let's see what starts

off those 15 spots. I mean, if you've seen one

Disney princess, you've seen them all, right?

Maybe not so much. Coming in at number 15, a

fairly more modern Disney princess. And one of

the... I'll get into my opinions on the film

in a second. But coming in at number 15 is 1989's

Little... mermaid. On 16 lists, four people left

this off of their top 100 entirely. Rotten Tomatoes

score of 91. Myself and one other of the contributors

had it the highest ranked. I had it ranked number

three. 1 ,147 points, 1989's The Little Mermaid.

I guess we can start with Mike, and I don't mean

to back the bus and then go forward and then

back again. I honestly don't remember not ranking

this. You ranked Little Mermaid both of the sequels.

No. But not the original. No, no, no, no, no.

You must have misread that. I'll give you your

list. The only sequel that I ranked was the second

one. I've never even seen Ariel's Beginning,

so you must have misread that. I'll show you

the email you sent to me. Anyways, so you meant

to rank Little Mermaid somewhere in your 100?

It should have been wherever you said that second

sequel was, because that wasn't what... I would

have never put Ariel's Beginning on a top 100

list. All right, well, we'll have to just blame

Mike for not being able to type things out properly.

Or Kevin for reading stuff properly, like usual.

And move on to Steve. Your thoughts on Little

Mermaid and does it deserve to be in our top

20? That's the question on all our movies, I

guess. That one's kind of difficult to answer

just because I'd say that it's one of the better

ones out of all those different Disney princess

movies. The villain was actually... halfway decent

um the the story somewhat halfway decent uh i

don't know i i would much rather watch this than

the disney films that have been listed in this

episode so far or some of the other ones that

have managed to make the list i mean i would

for me i i love this film i don't care if i don't

care that Mostly when I was growing up, it was

all females that loved this film. And there were

some more male -pointed Disney films to come

after it. But to me, I loved this film. I loved

the music. This was something we had never seen

before, as far as my eyes. This is so far removed

from what you expect Disney to be when you're

growing up in the 80s and 90s, I guess, when

you've seen all of the classic stuff and when

you've seen the stuff from the 60s and 70s, and

then you kind of went through this period you

know, late 70s, early 80s, where it's like, I

don't know what is going on at Disney, I guess.

And then all of a sudden 1989 comes and Little

Mermaid just shatters all idea of what you picture

Disney to be. And it goes on into this, whatever

you want to call it. Some people have called

it a Disney Renaissance or a rebirth or whatever

you want to call what happened with Disney. in

the late 80s early 90s but but this is the film

that started that all and it's kind of like in

a different way in a lesser aspect than what

dan was saying you know what if snow white had

failed obviously that would have had different

and more intense ramifications but if little

mermaid fails uh you know not having some of

the films that come right after without naming

them uh you know that definitely would be some

type of an impact because this started a run

for a good almost 10 years of of Disney success.

And I just, I don't know. I really love the film.

I love the music. I love the characters, you

know, just all of the different, especially the

underwater characters that you get to see the

different types of, what do you want to call

it? Sea life, I guess. And the music overall,

the music is phenomenal. So I love this film.

I definitely think it deserves to be in our top

20. What about you, Dan? I think so. Like you

mentioned, it is the movie that brought Disney

out of the brink, so you have to give it credit

for there. And, too, like with Snow White, I

do stand behind Snow White. Yes, maybe it's not

the most complex or full of interesting characters,

but I think Little Mermaid, certainly Ariel,

is a lot more of an interesting character than

that of Cinderella. Her bizarre acceptance is

something that's, I think, a lot more complex

than that of just... Prince save me type of behavior.

Um, the, we do kind of get that near the end,

but I don't know. I, like you said to you, I

definitely think it belongs there. Great music,

uh, under the sea, a great song, of course. Uh,

and two, I mean, just based on the amount of

internet memes it made with some of its questionable

animation, you know, and it's possible sexual

orientation with its, uh, VHS cover art back

in the day. Uh, certainly, uh, It certainly started

a trend there. But yeah, deserving of top 20.

I think too, like Kevin, you mentioned you loved

it as a kid. I think I was part of that group

that was probably too scared to say they liked

it because it was a girly movie of that period.

But as a mature or quote unquote mature adult,

I can recognize it as the great film that it

is. And I think, too, another thing that it does

well that I think separates it a little bit from

some of the other Disney films, I think, okay,

yes, we're talking about mermaids. We're talking

about people living underwater. We're talking

about magical spells that take voices away, et

cetera. So don't get what I'm about to say twisted.

But it almost seems to me that from a character

standpoint that you can almost relate more. as

a kid to Ariel than you can some of the other

past Disney movies that are so enwrapped in kind

of main plot lines based around this fantasy

magical element. Like for me, you know, when

you think about like a Snow White or Cinderella

or some of those other ones, like it's harder

to relate. Like Snow White is like, okay, she's

a quote unquote beautiful person who a witch

is jealous of. So we're going to have a spell,

et cetera. Here we have a character in Ariel

who wants to know what else is out there, who's

going against her father's wishes, who's dealing

with falling in love and being with someone that

she's not supposed to fall in love with. I mean,

it just seems to me like when you boil it down,

there's more relatable concepts about this character

that... if you hit it at the right time in your

life, you can relate to and you can connect to,

even though, yes, we are under the sea. We're

mermaids and et cetera. And we got Ursula and

all this stuff. And Ursula is a pretty good Disney

villain, by the way. But I don't know. I just

think one of the reasons Little Mermaid was a

little more successful was because of that ability

for kids at that time to relate to different

issues that she was going on. I'm not saying

those issues are completely invisible in other

Disney films, but sometimes there's a lot more

magic and fantasy hiding some of that. Maybe

I'm the only one that feels that way. Neil, how

do you feel about Little Mermaid? I agree. I

mean, the analogy I was going to make is that

this movie is like, what if Cinderella was motivated?

I mean, Cinderella, if you watch Cinderella,

she doesn't really do anything. She just kind

of sits around and does chores and waits for

somebody to save her. Whereas Ariel actually

goes out and tries to accomplish things. She

wants to get out and she wants to be free and

walk on land. and stuff and she's she takes things

into her own hands that was kind of cool and

also comparing her to snow white i mean if the

if the uh if the queen was willing to sacrifice

her own beauty to get to get after uh snow white

she might also just put a gun in her mouth if

she saw ariel um this yeah this movie is much

much better as far as disney princesses go and

uh yeah was the it was like a huge Renaissance

back in the day. Cause this was one year after

Oliver and company, not knocking that movie at

all, but it was, you know, quite a leap. And

the only other thing I have to say is that just

a couple of weeks ago, the podcast, good job.

Rain did a, did an episode about this. So people

listening to this, go, go listen to that. I think

if, if you were to show, if you were just to

take kids, I have never seen. you know, these

films, and you were to show them Oliver and Company,

and then you were to show them Little Mermaid,

and then you were to have them write down what

year they thought each one was made, you would

never have them put in those two films in the

same decade. Yeah. The thing about The Little

Mermaid is I agree with everything Kevin and

Neil have said. I mean, it's a movie about exploration,

about, you know, Basically, it's one of the first

animated films I know of as far as the child

trying to break away. I mean, it's kind of like

when people said, oh, well, 90210 broke all these

barriers with exploring situations on television

that no one ever had done before. And this is

one of those films that does that. So the film

has come a long way. You have completely blown

my mind. You are the only person on the planet

that could get a 90210 reference into a top 100

animated film podcast. Hey, it's the truth. Just

said it yourself. She's dealing with something

that is completely, you know. I'm not saying

it's bad or anything. I'm just saying. And they

did that the exact same thing in 90210. All right.

I mean, really, if you want to make another analogy,

the one that you actually prefer, technically

she's doing the same stuff, some of the stuff

that was done in Saved by the Bell. I mean, I

just like the fact that in the same discussion

we had, Dan talking about his fear of mentioning

that he liked Little Mermaid when he was a kid

to your outright professions and your knowledge

of 90210. It's an interesting dynamic there.

What can you say? All right. Well, Disney princesses

have taken the countdown hostage. Let's see if

their grass around it can be broken with our

next selection. Dan, it's just fun to put you

on the spot. Is there a Disney princess we haven't

talked about yet? I'm sure there is. This is

all your fault. Okay, well, coming in number

14 here on our list, it's four in a row here

for the Disney Princesses. They're teaming up

on the countdown. This one's from 1959, and it

is none other than Sleeping Beauty. On 16 lists,

so a few less, same as Little Mermaid, they were

both on 16, but a few less than some of the other

ones we've talked about previously. Got as highly

ranked as number two on the list, so out of the

four... Disney princess movies that we've just

talked about, Cinderella, Snow White, Little

Mermaid, and Sleeping Beauty. Sleeping Beauty

had the highest rank out of all of them at two.

And Rotten Tomatoes scored 91. Of course, four

people did not rank this. I guess as we're doing

this one, let's look back at what we've just

had here with the four Disney princesses. And

do we have them in the right order? Do they all

deserve to be in the top 20? We started with

Cinderella, went to Snow White, Little Mermaid,

and now Sleeping Beauty. Let's start with Mike.

I'm really surprised that Sleeping Beauty made

it in. I mean, we all know that Maleficent is

one of the best villains ever, but I'm really

surprised because I don't know if this is a film

that a lot of people think about when they think

about Top 100. Sure, 16 of our members did, but

I don't know. This movie always felt like to

me that it was something that people knew about

in the back of their minds, but... isn't something

that you would think of when you think of a Disney

princess. Yes, she is a Disney princess, but

her storyline, out of all the Disney princesses,

is probably the most dark. Yeah, I can see that

in a way, possibly. And interestingly, you bring

up Maleficent, too. Talking about Disney villains,

I agree. She is definitely one of the most imposing

Disney villains and mysterious and evil -looking.

Especially when it's starring Angelina Jolie.

Not talking about that film yet. Neil, what are

your thoughts on Sleeping Beauty coming in here

at number 14, higher than Cinderella, Snow White,

and Little Mermaid? I don't know if I'd put it

higher than Little Mermaid, but definitely I'd

put this one higher than the other two. I like

this princess a lot better, except that I'm blanking

on her name. Was it Ariel? no it's a little aurora

that's it yeah um well i haven't seen this in

a while but yeah i love this movie even though

it kind of falls into the same trap of not very

interesting princess but she has a little more

uh screen time where she gets to develop and

i i think what really drew me to this movie was

was maleficent because she is the first disney

villain that i actually thought was scary I will

agree with that. And I was trying to say earlier

when we were talking about Little Mermaid, Ursula

is, like Kevin said, Ursula is another one. I

would say she's kind of like the late 80s, early

90s, most scary villain as far as Disney goes.

But yeah, Maleficent just, she was, by far, like

her villainy is just, it makes people speechless.

It really does. Well, if you think about it in

a way, it's, we've talked about some of disney

films and having like this vast array of characters

that you can relate to and watch and enjoy and

jungle book you know we rattle off a bunch of

names and you can do that with with a couple

different disney films when you look at this

one i mean it is maleficent and then you have

sleeping beauty who obviously is sleeping for

A good deal. You have a somewhat nondescript

prince, and then you have your three fairies.

So, I mean, really there's not a lot to choose

from. It's really carried by the fairies and

Maleficent. But at least this prince did something

in this film versus the other prince who basically

did nothing other than just show up. Yeah, that's

true. Very true. They don't work for it. Dan,

you know, Neil was saying that he would rank

this higher than Cinderella and Snow White, but

not Little Mermaid. Where do you feel Sleeping

Beauty falls amongst those? I would probably

agree with that. Like I said, just as a historical

importance perspective, I think I would maybe

Sleeping Snow White a little higher, but I don't

argue that Sleeping Beauty, just based upon the

movie itself, is better. I would like the mix

of fantasy with the animation. think more complex

and it has a dragon in it which is always a plus

so um i think that is an interesting point though

because when you're thinking about it you have

molessa molessa wow you have you know the villain

in this and uh the thinking of character wise

there isn't it's not full of a lot of different

characters or anything like that but i don't

think that makes it a bad movie just and how

it's designed so um i agree though i probably

would have The Little Mermaid above it, just

because I enjoy it. I think that has more personality

and it's just a brighter movie. A quick question

for you, Dan. Number one, are you surprised?

A two -party question, I guess. Number one, are

you surprised to see all four of these Disney

princess films at the same time, all of them

in the top 20? Or are you more surprised that

we don't see one of them in our top 10? I'm a

little surprised we don't see one of them in

the top 10. I'm not surprised they're all back

-to -back -to -back like this. I think we've

seen that a lot with the different, you know,

that happened a few times throughout the list.

I think that just tells you how closely they're

ranked. Sometimes when I was making my list,

it was hard to differentiate between them and

choose an ordering. So I think what you ended

up having a lot is people probably ranked them

within the same amount. So that's probably why

they're like this. I am surprised at least one

of them doesn't make the top 10. I thought Snow

White would have a chance at the top 10, just

because, like you mentioned, Kevin, it's often

ranked number one on a lot of lists. And do you

think there's people listening here, fans of

one particular studio, that may be getting nervous

that some of their favorite films are not on

our countdown? Either getting nervous or others

getting nervous that it's only going to be those

in the top 10. You would guess there possibly

could be 10. I'd still hold that. And we've gone

through seven spots on our countdown without

seeing one. We'll see what lucky number 13 brings

next. 13. All right. I guess with number 13,

the curse is broken. We will have our first Pixar

film of the day. Coming in at number 13 is 2001's

Monsters, Inc. They first filmed to break the

1 ,200 -point mark. It was on all lists except

for two. Only two people left Monsters, Inc.

completely off of their top 100. Nobody ranked

it higher than six, though. Rotten Tomatoes score

of 96. If you were taking its average score,

it probably would have gone somewhere in the

upper 20s, lower 30s for us. But Monsters, Inc.

is our first Pixar film of the day, and it comes

in at number 13. Mike, your thoughts on Monsters,

Inc.? I love Monsters, Inc. for how different

it is. It's basically taking something we've

all probably had as a fear as a child and showing

you that monsters are actually scared as well.

Overall, the story is good. The animation is

amazing. The friendship that you see in Mike

and Sully is awesome. And the voice cast, I mean...

John Goodman and Billy Crystal, who would have

ever thought that those two would be an interesting

team -up? Not to say that they're not interesting

actors at all. I'm just saying that those two

voices for those two specific characters and

how different they actually are. Absolutely loved

it. And the casting of Steve Buscemi as the chameleon.

Steve Buscemi plays some really slimy, slimy

characters in his career, and Randall is by no

means any exception. I absolutely love this movie,

and I really did enjoy the prequel as well. Question

for you, if the date's right here. Monsters,

Inc. came out in 2001, which is the same year

that Shrek came out. Shrek came in at number

18, Monsters, Inc. came in at number 13. Is that

an accurate saying of those two films? Yeah,

most definitely. Monsters, Inc. was a way better

interesting story overall. Fair enough. Neil,

your thoughts on Monsters, Inc., our first Pixar

film today? I left it off my ranking probably

more due to a brain fart. My list was winding

down. I guess I just forgot about it. It's not

exactly my favorite Pixar film just because it's...

I don't know. It just never appealed to me. Maybe

it's because of the casting. I mean, Billy Crystal.

I'm one of those people where I could... I could

watch an hour of Billy Crystal and not laugh

once. I don't know what it is. I just don't find

him very funny. I do think it's a good film.

The story is nice. The character of Boo is particularly

appealing. A very cute character. This one's

up there with a bug's life where I just didn't

really like it. As much as the other ones. That's

fair enough. You're allowed to not like something.

Steve, fan of Monsters, Inc. or not? Yeah, I'm

definitely a fan of the film. I like Billy Crystal

as far as the animation part of it is concerned,

like with the vocals and John Goodman in there

and Steve Buscemi and everybody else. I think

that it was a pretty well done film. I believe

at the time that it was pretty revolutionary

with the hair aspect of Sully. Of how they animated

it and everything. I believe at the time it was

kind of revolutionary with the CG animation.

uh so i mean it has that going for it uh and

also i just love the story all together of them

kind of being these scares and then having to

you know deal with the fact that oops we let

a human into scare world so it's i i find it

really enjoyable i i ranked it in my my uh 20s

on my list so i i don't have a problem with it

being here All right, your first of your 10 films,

Dan. Monsters, Inc. coming in at number 13. Your

thoughts? I do like it. I would not put it nearly

this high. I think I would think more so in the

30s, maybe 40s or so. I don't think it's as,

I don't know. It's not the highest of Pixar by

any means. Like Steve mentioned, some of the

animation is incredible. I think even with lesser.

Pixar films for the most part the animation is

usually always on point but to my to Neil I'm

not a big Billy Crystal fan and after watching

him in the Oscars two years ago not laughing

at him for an hour is kind of an understatement

but I do I do like John Goodman though and like

Bashemi as well I do like the construction of

the world and the concept about it I think that's

well handled and Just the idea behind it. And

like Mike, I actually did too, like the prequel,

not nearly, not a huge amount. I probably wouldn't

rank it in the top 100, but I thought it was

fine and added a little bit more to this world

of monsters. And I love this, like the construction

of all the different types of monsters and how

they look and all their different characteristics

and how they all have like their own unique set

of skills. And if it's a chameleon or whatnot.

And I also love Sasquatch. I thought he was a

pretty... funny character too all right so there

you have it our first pixar film of today's section

of the countdown and there's only a dozen spots

left and i think we're going to start off that

dozen with i'm not passing judgment one way or

the other but i will think if there's going to

be a surprise somewhere in our top 20 it may

be coming up next 12 all right coming in at number

12 is a film from 2012 We had our Disney princesses.

Let's go somewhere completely different with

Disney. Number 12 in our top 100 is none other

than Wreck -It Ralph. 1259 is the points on everybody's

list except for three people. It was ranked number

one by one of the panel members here. Yep. So

another number one has fallen, so let's let him

start. Are you disappointed that Wreck -It Ralph

comes in at number 12, or are you just happy

it's in the top 20? I wish it would have been

at least the other side of the top ten, maybe

number nine. But for me, overall, and I know

that we've said this before, oh, it's people

ranking what's new and what's now. It has nothing

to do with that, honestly. Wreck -It Ralph could

have come out ten years ago, and I would have

still put it at number one for this list, for

my personal list to go into the... the overall

making of The Master List, because of the simple

fact of the story. That's really why I put it

at number one. The animation is great. The fact

that it's one of, if not probably the best video

game film ever made, as far as, you know, we

all know that video game movies in general are

not very well made. But the story with this was

really interesting. It really makes you think

about certain aspects of changing your life or

accepting who you are. Again, going back to The

Little Mermaid, wanting to explore new things

and get out and do something different. Sure,

Wreck -It Ralph has a lot of cool video game

homages and references and nods and everything

else, but... It's just an amazing, amazing story.

And that's why I put it at number one. Steve,

how did you like Wreck -It Ralph? I ranked that

number four on my list. But I'm pretty much in

agreement with everything Mike just said. All

right. So some love on this end of the panel

for Wreck -It Ralph. Let's see how it goes on

the other end. Neil, Wreck -It Ralph deserves

to be in our top 20. Possibly. I had to be very

careful about how I ranked this just because

I have such a video game bias anyway. I mean,

I love it because of the references. There was

a scene in the Root Beer Tapper bar where I think

there was a joke about how the bartender can

only serve root beer now. If you're a big video

game aficionado, then you get that joke. But

it's a good movie, and I... Like I said, I was

very careful about where I put it because I didn't

want to put it too high, but I think it's in

a good spot. Okay, three people not having a

problem with it being in our top 20. Dan, Wreck

-It Ralph, deserving or not? Everybody get the

pitchforks ready. I don't believe so by any means.

I'll preface this by saying I did enjoy the film.

When I wrote a review of it last year when it

came out, I gave it four out of five stars, which

is definitely a stamp of approval. But four out

of five stars is certainly not top 20 worthy.

I think I ranked it in the 90s. And I find it

interesting that with Mike that Snow White, you

indicate it's convoluted, but you like the story

with Wreck -It Ralph because I would say the

story with Wreck -It Ralph is supremely convoluted.

I think that's where it lacks the most is in

the script standpoint. So much of it is devoted

to establishing all these different rules of

this world. unorganically telling them to you.

It shows its hand way too early. I didn't see

that coming. I did not see, and spoilers for

anyone who hasn't seen the film yet, I did not

see that ending coming with her actually using

her glitch to her. I didn't even see that coming

at all in the story. It tells you, it sets up

all these different rules, like you can't die

in your own game, or you can't leave, all these

different... moments that it just blatantly tells

you that you, I don't know, maybe that one specific

moment it doesn't tell you, but it just, it spends

so much time, I think, establishing a world unnecessarily.

I think you end up, like, wasting time with some

of the characters, losing time with some of the

characters. I think the basic story between,

you know, the Ralph character and, I forget the

girl's name. Penelope. Yeah, it is Penelope.

I think that story within itself is good. Sarah

Silverman, I never thought she would be able

to actually remove some of her rawness as a comedian

and actually give a sweet voiceover performance.

And I love John C. Reilly, and I think he's effective

as well. But I do think people have a tendency

to overrate this movie. I hate using the word

overrated, but I think if you do remove... many

of the aspects of the fact that it's a video

game and there's video game references and i

you know i know it's making a joke here and that

like and you remove those moments of it i don't

think people if you took that story place it

in a different world people would be as highly

like would think of it as highly and now people

just talk about often when you hear people say

it's just like oh i love all the cameos i mean

if a cameo makes your movie good you don't have

a good movie now i think record ralph is better

than that like i think a fair comparison is that

like roger rabbit where you have combining both

you know all these different elements of animation

and disney and warner brothers and whatnot i

think uh roger rabbit creates its world so much

better it It tells its story and it doesn't get

caught up with the exposition the same way that

Wreck -It Ralph does. So I don't disagree that

it deserves in the top 100. I don't think it's

a bad movie. But when you're talking about the

best of the best, which we're talking about now,

the animation of all time or whatever you want,

however you want to put it, I'm going to look

at it more critically than I would if I'm just

ranking it normally or just looking at it on

its own. So I may be coming off a little harsher,

but... That's more so because if you're going

to be placing it so high, I think you have to

try to look at is it as good as we're thinking

it is, or simply does it appeal to us just simply

based off premise? I mean, I think it's unique.

I enjoy the references and the cameos, and I

think it's unique, and I think it's something

different than what I had seen before. But I'm

almost forced to agree with parts of what Dan

is saying there that I think if you remove...

A lot of that, when you're left with just a stripped

-down story, does that hold up on its own? I'm

not sure. I know there was moments that I...

I don't want to say this because I thoroughly

enjoyed the film, and I had it ranked number

37. But there were times during the film where

it got a little long, or I almost even got bored.

But I still like the film. I still think it deserves

to be in our top 100. I'm just saying, I think

if there was one film in our top 20 that people

may point to or may be surprised, it might be

this one. But I do enjoy the film, so I don't

want people to think I'm hating on it. But I

don't know top 20. Mike, defense, you had it

number one, so I'll give you another chance.

I mean... And I will say, I did enjoy the video

game references as well, but this is a movie

that doesn't just throw them in your face. This

is a movie where, as Neil said, some of them

are hidden, and you have to really kind of look

for them. I mean, in that beginning scene with

Grand Central, or Gaming Central Station, a Sonic

thing just kind of whizzes by the screen, or

a Sonic, you know, but it's not like... Boom,

here, you know, product placement. As far as

the story overall, I think it does hold up. I'm

sure there may be one or two spots where it's

slow, but I never found myself being bored watching

this movie. I just didn't because I didn't know

what was going to happen because these are two

very different people from very different worlds,

and you... Sure, I will agree with Dan as far

as more so not necessarily the plot with Penelope,

but the plot with the villain. That was kind

of beat over your head. I will agree to that

point of, oh, hey, there's this guy back in the

old days, and then there's this new villain now.

Well, that's obvious. But as far as setting up

the world, I disagree with Dan on that because

you have to set up the world and set up the twists

because... You have to set up the world that

much for the twist to come into play at the end.

For them to say, no, screw the world, we're going

to break the rules and see what happens. But

I think there's a way to build a world and not

explicitly tell you the rules out loud as much

as it did. It's one thing if it's like one or

two things, but it's consistently throughout

the movie. And I'm not saying the entire world

building was not done well. I think there was

a lot of great things, like the Grand Central

Station, like you mentioned. I think that was

a wonderful scene. That idea, just how it's all

connected with the extension cords and stuff

like that. I think that was done creatively.

the group of all the different characters getting

together, the villains, like, you know, anonymous

month or whatever thing they had. So yeah, there

are elements of world building that done well.

It's when they get into the specific roles and

how things work and it just, things get kind

of lost and it's within that for me. I, like

I said, if I'm going to be ranking this or ranking

this at a certain point, I do think you got,

you know, is it, is this something we are ranking

because it deserves it or is it something that

it just appealing to a certain. certain audience

like in that audience is us all right well we'll

have to let the listeners cast their votes i

guess as far as uh the debate on record ralph's

uh deservingness on being in our top 20 or not

but soon the discussion will change who doesn't

deserve to be in our top 10 because there's only

one more spot on this side of our top 10 so let's

see what that last spot is Well, there's one

place we haven't been yet today on our countdown,

and that is the decade of the 90s. We have not

been there today, so let's go there now. And

that will be for our number 11 spot. And that

goes to 1999's Pixar film, sequel time, Toy Story

2. It was on 18 lists. Only two people left it

off of their list, which... I think it's a little

more fair to leave something off the list when

you have a series of multiple movies from the

same franchise. I'm not going to give people

a hard time for that. The highest it got ranked

was number two. A Rotten Tomatoes score of 100.

We haven't seen a lot of those, but it did have

a 100 score on Rotten Tomatoes. 1 ,262 points

for another Pixar film here. Toy Story 2 coming

in at number 11. Let's start with Neil on this

one. Toy Story 2 being in our top 20. I think

this is the least favorite of the three movies

for me, just because, I don't know, this one,

like most Pixar movies, it's a good movie, but

it... It didn't really resonate with me as much

as the first and the third one did. I've only

seen it a couple times. Like Lashley said earlier,

I didn't exactly go and watch every single movie

that I've ever seen for this list. So I'm a little

fuzzy on the movie itself. So I can't really

say much more about it than that. Steve, you

didn't have this one ranked, is it more so just

because there are three in this franchise, so

one of them you decided to leave off, or do you

not care for this one? What's your opinion on

Toy Story 2? Well, I enjoy all three of them.

Some of them to more degrees than others. I just

didn't find the second film to be as emotionally

charged as the other two. I didn't find myself

as connected or as caring towards the story or

the characters. Was it good? Yeah, it was good,

but to me, the first and the third are actually

stronger films overall than this one. Mike, agree,

disagree? This film was an attempt to... Sure,

it brings in the continuity of the first film,

and you see that time has passed, and you see

that... Buzz and Woody are getting along now

and everything else, and now they basically had

to pick, hey, which character are we going to

have go on a solo adventure? The best thing about

the Toy Story films, outside of the plots of

the first and the third film, is when they do

the animation with the toys. Where you think

it's, oh, hey, what's this adventure? And then

at the end of it, you flash out and it's actually

Andy playing with the toys. With this one, it's

like, hey, let's have Woody have an origin story.

Toy story origins Woody. Great. I liked it. I

found it enjoyable. But I do tend to agree that

it... It's not the best out of the three. It's

not a bad film. As Steve said, I find it interesting

that Newman is the villain in this. Wayne Knight

is the voice of Al. I enjoy it. Does it belong

right before we get to the top ten? Probably

not. I would probably put this like... I don't

know, maybe... I don't even remember where I

ranked it, but... Somewhere around maybe 15 or

16. Well, if we were trying to get 10 Pixar films

in today, we had to get to some more very soon,

or we were going to run out of spots for Dan.

I appreciate it. Dan, number 11, Toy Story 2.

Does it deserve to be in our top 20? I kind of

echo pretty much what everyone said already.

I don't think so, top 20, no. Just because, I

don't know. I'd rather see other films. that

like a spirited away or something like that um

it's it's kind of like the similar if you can

kind of compare to the lord of the rings it's

like the two towers of the franchise where the

first and the third one are so much better that

it's hard to lose sight of what's good about

the second one and the fact that it's within

its own it's yeah it's it works it's effective

and i think what hurts it a little bit is the

fact that a lot of the themes it goes after in

the second one are done better in the third one

so and i think that's where it gets a little

bit lost and like neil i'm a little fuzzy on

the details but i mean i do think i think and

i think mike uh brought up a good point that

the toy story world is best when those characters

are like interaction their interaction towards

one another so i think not having one of the

major characters within that interaction hurts

it a little bit but i i It was not really for

the idea of doing a Toy Story sequel when it

came out. The result proved that Pixar could

do sequels right. And when it added additional

characters, I think those additional characters

were actually interesting. And that's often not

the case when you get sequels that bring in new

characters. A lot of times the new characters

are bringing the movie down. At least that didn't

happen. So I would say definitely not in the

top 20. Top 30, 40, top 50, yes. At least it's

getting me closer to being right, so point for

it there. That's true, and that means it's time

that we only have 10 spots remaining on our countdown.

And I will mention that there are 12 of our contributors

or people that submitted lists that have not

seen their number one film yet. So 12 people

have not seen their number one film yet. There

are 10 spots remaining. And we need how many

more Pixar films? We need eight more Pixar films

to reach Dan's prediction. So let's see what

the top ten brings us. I don't know. I can feel

people listening, getting nervous. Will their

favorite films show up in our countdown? Well,

we're not concerned with that. We're only concerned

with making Dan right. So with number 10, let's

go to another Pixar film. Starting off our top

10, we're going to go to the year 2003. We will

see one person's number one ranked film fall,

as we will, with every film in the top 10 except

for one. Every film in our top 10 was ranked

number one by somebody except for one. This is

not it. It was Rotten Tomatoes score number 99

on there. 2003's Finding Nemo is number 10 on

our list. We've also passed the 1300 point mark.

Maximum point total 2000. This is at 1308. Finding

Nemo at number 10 in our top 10. So the discussion

shifts now. Does it deserve to be in our top

20? No. Does it deserve to be in our top 10?

Dan, start us off here. That's so hard. It's

hard without even thinking of what else is on

the top 10 to see if it... deserves or not uh

just thinking off the top of my head i don't

believe i ranked in the top 10 uh so i would

say no uh but top 20 i don't have an i agree

i think it belongs there i think this is a good

area where like pixar i think was even turning

the table and becoming more and more acclaimed

like i don't think this is a fast pixar movie

but i think this is when they entered a new territory

the animation got even better uh the story would

think the scope of the story might be one of

their Biggest ones just in what they do. And

again, a lot of great characters. And I thought

like Ellen DeGeneres in this was hilarious. I'm

not always her biggest fan, but I did find her

funny in this. And Sharkbait, that character

I thought was interesting. And Willem Dafoe with

his voice acting. So I think overall the voice

acting cast is strong as well. And I don't know,

I thought it was a lot of fun. There was a lot

of heart to it. this fish trying to go and find

it's, uh, you know, it's his, his son. There's

something to that. And, uh, just, it's a cute

movie too. I mean, you gotta give it points for

that. And I'm just remember people buying fish,

Nemo fish forever. And I think most kids, when

they see that fish, if you go to any aquarium,

you're going to see people calling it the Nemo

fish. I think it's basically changed its name

because of this movie. Uh, Steve love for finding

Nemo is a top 10 worthy film. Yeah, I can see

that. It's one of Pixar's stronger films. And

something I've kind of noticed is if Pixar has

a strong film, it either A, never gets a sequel,

or B, it takes them a while to get the sequel.

Let's all go find Dory next year. That's my point.

That's over 10 years later. Yeah, that's what

my point is. I mean, look at that. uh toy story

2 isn't nearly as good as toy story 3 which had

a big gap between them or you know like incredibles

where that's never had a sequel or you know stuff

like that and then you look at things like cars

and you have cars too and then planes it gets

progressively worse so no i i see that this this

film uh is deserving of it i like the voice cast

i like a lot of the the jokes i like the Part

where Ellen is Dory and forgetting everything

that's going on in the story. You get all the

fish in the dentist's office. Yeah, it definitely

has a lot of moments. The film is very funny,

but it's entertaining for all ages. Neil? Finding

Nemo? Should it be in our top ten? This is going

to get progressively hard because I want to steer

clear of hyperbole, but it's hard to say no.

Well, personally, I did not put it in the top

10 or even the top 20, but that's because there's

so many great films and it's just hard to put

them in an order when you get this far up the

countdown. But this is a very good film. And

I think what Pixar and sequels is that... I don't

think Pixar really likes doing sequels, or at

the very least, they don't want to do a sequel

unless there's a story to be told. And I think

in a couple spots they were contractually obligated,

and that's how we got Toy Story 2 and Cars 2.

Whereas I think with Finding Dory, I think we're

going to find that they actually have a story

that's worth seeing. So I'm looking forward to

that. About this movie, though. Yeah, I love

the... the fish tank and the dentist's office.

Every character in this movie is great, especially

Ellen DeGeneres as Dory. And just, I would never

have thought of her as being primed to be a voice

actress, but she did a great job. Even Albert

Brooks, I'm not the biggest Albert Brooks fan,

but he was fantastic in this. So, yeah, it definitely,

I would not begrudge it for being on a top 10.

Maybe wouldn't have put it in there myself, but

I would not object at all. And interesting to

see. I'll save that thought for another second

here. But Mike, did you say anything about Finding

Nemo yet? Finding who? Finding Nemo. I've seen

this in bits and pieces. I've never actually

seen it all the way through. And I know a lot

of people do love the film. And I was one of

those people that when the craze hit. Like a

lot of things. And I'll admit to this to a lot

of things. When the Animaniacs craze hit back

in the 90s, I steer clear. I didn't enjoy Animaniacs

until I got older. Same thing with Finding Nemo.

When all this merchandise and all this, I guess

you could say, infamy about it kind of hit, I

was like, okay, I'll wait. I'll wait until all

that's died down. So I'll have to check this

one out eventually. All right. Well, we start

off our top ten with Finding Nemo from Pixar,

and Dan hopes to see seven more Pixar films.

Let's see if we can make that happen. Some interesting

things that we'll bring up as far as these two

coming back to back. I'm not seeing they're directly

related outside of the company that produced

them, so Dan scores another one. Number nine

is Pixar's film from 2008, and that would be

WALL -E. It was on the exact same number of lists

as Finding Nemo. They were both on 17 lists.

It was just a tiny bit higher ranking. We haven't

talked about limited rank at all, and I'm not

going to get into it because I don't want to

confuse people. But it's basically if you were

just to rank amongst the lists that they're listed

on. I find it interesting. Finding Nemo and Wally

would come in 14th and 13th right next to each

other, just like they do. With this version of

ranking, I'm 10th and 9th. Another number one

falls. Michael Wilson and as well as one of our

contributors both had it number one. So it was

the first film we've seen that two people ranked

as their number one film. Rotten Tomatoes score

of 96. But three people did off of their list

completely. WALL -E in comparison to Finding

Nemo, Mike. Again, this is another one I resisted

for the longest time. I finally did watch it.

And the first five or ten minutes, I was like,

why do people see this as one of the best Pixar

movies? After a while and after multiple viewings,

I do like it. I do enjoy the story of it. Thankfully,

at this point in time in our lives, not the entire

planet hasn't become overweight slobs. I don't

know. I thought that was kind of funny, just

kind of basically poking fun at how lazy humans

can be. I enjoy WALL -E. Is it a movie I go back

to often? Not really, but I enjoyed it. Steve,

are you a WALL -E fan? Have you seen it, and

does it deserve to be in our top ten? Yeah, I

actually have it on Blu -ray. This one I had

as my number five, so I definitely see it as

being in the top ten. It's kind of odd for me

to like a film like this, considering a lot of

the dialogue is not human. It's all inferred

over beeps and sounds. So I, too, kind of resisted

it when it came out initially. And then my wife

and I rented it and ended up buying it because

we really liked it. The story's really strong

between showing the civilization thing, and it's

kind of funny because you get the live -action

scene in there at a point of the president evacuating

the planet. I think it was Fred Willard or something.

But no, the voice cast is pretty strong in it.

The animation's cool. I like the futuristic concept.

So, I mean, I would say that it's definitely

a strong film. All right. Neil, top ten worthy?

Awful. No, I love this movie. Yes, it is top

ten worthy, and that's where I put it. I had

it at number eight. So, yeah, this is an excellent

movie. And I actually do like that for the first,

I don't know how many minutes of the movie, there

was basically no dialogue. I mean, obviously

there were. but you had to infer what was going

on more than anything. But yeah, I love the –

there's just such a – I think Pixar is really

– they like to challenge themselves. And I think

with this movie and another movie that starts

out with a lot of no dialogue, they were trying

to really stretch their legs, stretch their animation.

trying to get you to care about characters without

leaning on the actors so much. I think this was

an experiment that really paid off for them.

I'm kind of stumbling, but I don't know what

else to say. It's such a good movie. I think,

yeah, it definitely deserves to be in the top

ten. I guess what surprises me the most is I've

never heard anyone say anything bad about WALL

-E. I've never heard anything that anybody just

hates it, that dislikes it. uh despises it and

not not even that but i not even hear people

that say like nitpick little things about it

now we did have three people that left it off

the list completely should i assume that they

just haven't seen it dan uh well i i do think

there are some people that have major issues

with the second half of the movie when the social

commentary on it gets a little bit on the nose

for some people. I necessarily don't agree with

that, but I know usually the criticism I hear

the most is that once you bring in the dialogue

and you actually have human characters, it might

be a little bit too much, like Mike mentioned,

just like with talking about just how overweight

and lazy humans become. So I think that might

be reason left off, or it could be because they

haven't seen it. For me, again, like Neil, like

everyone's mentioned, it's 100 % deserving of

the top 10. One of the best Pixar movies ever,

bar none. Pixar has a unique ability to tell

you so much without dialogue and just through

facial expressions and body language. And that's

so much true in WALL -E. we've mentioned this

the first i think it's 45 minutes honestly i

don't know how long for sure but i believe it's

it's near that where you have no actual dialogue

and you just learn about you know this character

wally just through his action just through his

uh you know how he goes through his everyday

task and just he's like weird looking eyebrows

and whatnot And plus, like Steve mentioned, putting

Fred Willard as president should qualify you

for the top 10 immediately. Yes. Yeah. But yeah,

and I think one of the better love stories, if

you want to call it a love story or a friendship

between Wally and Eve, I mean, that's wonderfully

told, and there's so much heart there. When I

talked about Wreck -It Ralph, not to keep harping

on it, I talked about how that gets... unnecessarily

complicated to me. If you look at Wally, it shows

you how you can tell you, you can say so much

without even speaking the words. And it's, it's

a hard skill. It's really hard to do. So it's

100 % deserving a top 10, I think arguably top

five. So I will say that I think like the third

or the fourth or the upteenth time it's been

on like Disney channel or ABC family or whatever

else after I had seen it on DVD. Well, the first

time I remember seeing it, I was like, hey, they

made Johnny Five a midget. What the hell? And

then as I watched it more over the last couple

of years since its release, I'm thinking, hey,

Wally and Eva, or Eve or whatever, because he

says her name is Eva, they're basically Johnny

Five and Ally Sheedy is what they are. Shut up.

You know you like Short Circuit. Alrighty then.

So a Pixar trio so far to help Dan out here when

we had Toy Story 2 backed up against Finding

Nemo and now WALL -E. So apparently we need some

more. Let's see. We're running out of spots here,

guys. Let's see what's next. All right. So at

number eight, another number one falls. As we

said, all of them except for one are number ones.

But I don't think the person that had this ranked

number one will be as upset to see it at least

making our countdown. Number eight on our list

from 1999 is the Iron Giants from Warner Brothers.

1 ,348 points. It was on everybody's list except

for two people's. Mr. Wilson, what are you thinking?

TV's Mr. Neal had it ranked number one. Limited

rank of 15. So coming in at number eight is Iron

Giant. We'll let you start, Neil. Okay, you've

all been spared eye pokes. Yes. This movie is

phenomenal. I mean, I do understand that it has

some weaknesses, but I think it makes up for

just pure charm. Because they basically took

this concept that was like, what if Optimus Prime

was Winnie the Pooh? and basically this this

boy finds a giant this big iron giant and uh

befriends him and it's basically just a friendship

story and you never find out where the giant

comes from but he has some sort of there's some

sort of ominous hint about where about you know

that he may have been an invader or something

but he he hits his head at the beginning of the

movie and so he loses his memory so he's like

so he's basically like a big puppy now so and

it's it's a movie that's all about about being

who you want to be, which is a theme that I like.

And we see it in a couple other films, particularly

a Pixar film that I also hope is in the top 10.

It's a Brad Bird movie. It's really, really cute.

I love this movie. And like I said, it's got

a couple hokey spots, but I think the characterization

saves it. And that's about all I have to say.

Dan, since you were spared the eye poke that

you were so worried about before, your thoughts

on Iron Giant being in our top 10? I 100 % agree

with what Neil was saying. It's deserving top

10, 100%. It's such a wonderful story. I just

love the animation to it, too, of the giant.

He looks so classical in a way, and just his

design. I don't want to say steampunk because

that's not right at all, but I don't know. Just

in how he's all put together is just interesting

to me. And to me, this is like Brad Bird doing

Spielberg better than Spielberg can do at times

because there is such a heart to it and such

an earnestness with that relationship between

the boy and the giant, which is wonderful and

maybe probably the best Vin Diesel performance

ever. So there is that. as the voice of the giant

um but yeah great great movie great animation

and uh you know probably one of if not the best

Brad Bird movie all right uh Mike your thoughts

on the Iron Giant you know Neil said you know

mash Optimus Prime and Eeyore together and You

get Xander Cage! I could not believe... When

this movie first came out, I'm like, Vin Diesel

does voiceover? Really? Wow. But no, I love this

movie. I think this is a really, really great

movie. I think the aspirations of being something

greater than what you are, like in the movie,

Hogarth uses the example of Superman, which is

kind of funny because the... The giant is from

some unknown world. So technically this is a

Superman movie. The animation is great. I was

kind of surprised with the voice cast of Aniston

and Harry Connick Jr. Jennifer Aniston and Harry

Connick Jr. as the mother and the... The Junkyard

Artist, I like it. I think it's really cool.

The animation is top -notch. It's just an all

-around great movie, and everyone needs to at

least see this once. Steve, we haven't got your

thoughts. Iron Giant, deserving or not of being

in our top ten? Yeah, I can definitely see that.

The animation in it was really good. I liked

the story. The fact that it's giant robots and

it's got almost that E .T. kind of vibe to it

is kind of cool. No, I mean, it's definitely

a strong film. I don't have any problems with

it. All right, so we got something that wasn't

Disney and wasn't Pixar into our top ten, so

the crowd should rejoice for that, although it

hurts Dan's odds a tiny bit. I'm okay with that.

Okay, well. We'll see if we can get right back

to Pixar or if we have somewhere else to go for

our next slot. All right, coming in at number

seven. I'm sorry, Dan, but it's not from Pixar.

Number seven is a film also from the 90s, just

like Iron Giant. This time it's from 1991. We're

going back to the wonderful world of Disney for

Beauty and the Beast. The first film to... break

the 1400 point mark, but it was only on 16 people's

list. So those 16 people ranked at darn high.

In fact, if you were just to do our rankings

based on the films that it was, the list that

it was appearing on, it would have been our number

two film on our countdown. So only one film was

ranked higher if you just took the list that

it appeared on. Two people ranked at number one,

92 Rotten Tomatoes score. Number seven, Beauty.

and the Beast. Mike, your thoughts on it coming

in our top 10 and maybe in comparison to the

other Disney princess films we talked about earlier

in today's episode. I like Beauty and the Beast.

It's a movie that I think is a little overhyped.

It is a good movie. It is a good story. It's

good animation. Again, it's one of those Disney

movies that The side characters are more so the

interesting part of the film, because if you

took those side characters away, it's basically

just, you know. Rooting Batman and Vicki Vale.

It's really what it is. But you're no longer

allowed to make references for the rest of the

episode. Shut up. It's it's true, though. Overall,

I enjoyed it. Is it something I watch on a regular

basis? No, not really. I do like the arguments

between, I think it's Mr. Clocksworth, and I

forget what the candle's name is off the top

of my head. Yeah, I do like their back and forth.

I thought that was really cool. As far as regards

to the other films, I enjoy the other films more

than this, but I still do enjoy this for what

it is. But not top 100 worthy? I don't know.

I just think it's not for me because if I was

to go back and redo my list, maybe somewhere

in the 60s, but... I don't know, it just wasn't

something that, sure, the animation's great,

the music is great, the story's good, but it

just wasn't something that I thought of to put

on here. Do you think this is, I'm not trying

to rake you over the coals here. Yes, you are.

Do you think this is inferior to the multiple

Disney sequels that you did rank in your top

100? No, but at the same time, I've seen all

of those more than I've seen this. I've seen

this maybe a total of five times since it came

out. I'm speechless. Anyway, Neil, Beauty and

the Beast, not in our top 100 or not in our top

10. It comes in at number 7. Your thoughts? I

wouldn't have put it in the top 10. This falls

under the brain fart category because somehow

I didn't list it. I don't know how that happened.

It's an okay Disney movie. I have kind of mixed

feelings about it because it is kind of like

a Stockholm Syndrome type movie just because...

The Beast is holding Belle captive, but she's

also falling in love with him, which is kind

of weird. But, you know, it is what it is. And,

of course, it also kind of hurts that she's like

the smartest of all the Disney princesses. She's

a bookworm. Or is that what it is? Is she just

that smart that she found a way to not get killed

by the Beast? I'll take it. By tangling this

whole love story up in it. I'll take that. yeah

yeah it's a good movie i don't know i know i

wouldn't put it in the top 10 maybe like 30s

fair enough um and i i kind of do it maybe i'll

give you guys a chance to to comment again and

dan and steve can comment while they while they

make their first comments but uh interesting

too to see that we had a A slew of Disney princess

films come back to back to back when we talked

about Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Snow White

and even Little Mermaid all in a row. And now

Beauty and the Beast was somewhat separated from

that pact. So think about that for a minute.

Steve, your general thoughts on Beauty and the

Beast coming in on our top 10. I kind of have

to agree with Neil. I mean, one, I forgot it,

too. Somehow a brain fart. But. I don't see it

as top 10, but I definitely see it beating everything

else that was in the beginning of the episode.

I mean, I find it enjoyable, and the songs in

it are pretty good, and then the animation's

good. So, I mean, it's a fairly memorable film

and very likable. I've seen it more times than

I care to count, but that's more so because my

wife really likes it. I definitely see it being

in the top 20. I think it has some things going

for it and it has some things going against it.

It is coming out in an era of just phenomenal

Disney films, and I think sometimes it can get

lost in the shuffle there with the other three

that come around it, even though It outranked

Little Mermaid on our list. I think it has, like

you said, the side characters are very interesting.

All the people and objects that she comes into

contact, especially when she's in the Beast,

whatever you want to call it, Castle, Palace,

whatever. It has that going for it. It has some

good music, as do all the Disney films from this

era. It has a Disney princess who... Well, I

guess... it's about any way you put it would

probably be she'd have to rank as one of the

best as far as if you were trying to find like

the ideal princess to marry um i mean she's gorgeous

she's intelligent she's definitely got a lot

going for her um she can sing um i don't know

so she you gotta yeah yeah you know she'll let

you kidnap her and uh not press charges um so

i mean You got that going for you. I think what,

for me, it falls a little short on is in the

main villain, perhaps. I don't know who else

or what other kind of awesome villain you could

have had and it wouldn't have worked with this

story. But Gaston, in comparison to other Disney

villains, doesn't rank very high. So I guess

if you were trying to nitpick, I could point

that out. I am surprised that it's somewhat separated

from... The rest of the Disney princesses, especially

Little Mermaid. Dan, what do you think? I guess

I may be alone here, but I had it in my top ten,

and I think it is deserving. Regarding the villain

aspect, I guess, to me, the villain in this or

the conflict in this is not necessarily one of

an outside character, but it's that personal

journey of the Beast. The Beast is his own worst

enemy in this. I do give it points for if you

look at a lot of the Disney princess movies,

it's often the princess being saved, the princess

changing who she is in the case of Little Mermaid

in order to fit into another world. But this

is a case where it's the princess or the beauty.

Like you said, only the beauty can save the beast.

It's the beauty is the one who is actually. in

some ways, the hero in it because she is bringing

the beast around. So on that standpoint, I think

it stands a little bit above the other Disney

princess movies. I also think the animation is

fantastic. A lot of the musical set pieces, you

know, are grandiose, huge, and wonderful. a lot

of the side characters, like you mentioned, also

just a lot of the design to the character. I

remember loving, I still do. I love the design

of the beast. There have been a lot of different

interpretations of that story of beauty and the

beast. And I think the Disney's version of it

or Disney's design of it is one of the best.

And not that this means anything or not that

this is a huge deal, but you have to give it

somewhat credit for being the first animated

movie ever nominated for Best Picture. And that's

back when there's only five of them. Again, like

Academy Awards aren't everything, but I think

that does say something about what it was at

the time it came out. So I don't know. To me,

it is deserving of the top 10. And I think it's

the, you mentioned versions of Beauty and the

Beast. It's the best version of this story I've

ever seen. I actually did have it ranked, and

I don't want to say that I was just surprised

that it was so far, not so far, but somewhat

removed from those other ones. I figured they

would all be lumped together somewhat. But I

had it ranked in my top ten as well. I think

I had it like eight or nine. So I'm fine with

it being in our top ten. Mike or Neil or Steve,

anybody have another thought on Beauty and the

Beast that they wanted to share? It's one of

the few that have had spinoffs, but not sequels.

There was Enchanted Christmas, which I guess

could really be considered a sequel, but it didn't.

Again, it... For me, in sequels, sometimes, specifically

to Disney, if it doesn't have the number two

or Roman numeral two in it or any kind of numbering

in it, it doesn't really consider it to be a

sequel, even though it is. They did have Enchanted

Christmas. They did have a couple of other things.

What interests me most about the Disney stuff

is more so how they can, or how they did, put

everything together in House of Mouse. As far

as all of the classic villains and characters

being in the audience, as far as Beauty and the

Beast, it is worthy of top 10. I probably would

put it lower, though, personally. Fair enough.

So, Dan, just if we're keeping track of our ongoing

nonsense, you need Pixar to run the table now.

Hey, if I'm wrong, I'll be happy to be wrong.

I'll be happy to be wrong. I'm going to be upset

with the next one. I'm just going to show my

hand early. Oh, geez. Oh, well. We'll see what

that is. Six. I say I'm going to be upset. I'm

not really upset. I mean, it's number six at

least. But, yeah, my number one is going down

now, too. And that will be our number six film

on the list. We're staying with Disney. We're

going one year into the future. 1992's Aladdin.

One person decided that this was not top 100

worthy. One individual. Left it off of their

list entirely. But we'll get more into that individual's

rankings maybe in the wrap -up. 1 ,500, over

1 ,500 points. So out of the possible 2 ,000,

1 ,522 on 19 list, 92 Rotten Tomatoes score.

If we were doing a limited rank, it would have

came in number 10, but it comes in at number

6. I was the only one that ranked at number 1.

I love it. just about everything about this film.

It contains my favorite Disney princess, probably,

and Jasmine. She's amazing. And no, I'm not attracted

to animated people. Robin Williams as the genie

is quite possibly one of the greatest characters

in animation history as far as animated films.

In my opinion, he was... ridiculously on top

of his game as this role um there's not a kid

that saw this film that was not laughing and

in love with the with the genie um so you have

that going for it you not my favorite disney

villain by far i i'm not a huge jafar fan but

he is a pretty pretty i don't know badass bit

of disney villain i mean he's got a lot of power

he becomes some crazy powerful stuff on genie

power and etc um so you got that you got like

the magic carpet you got a boo um i loved aladdin

as a character and i think one thing that really

got aladdin for me was when you're a kid growing

up and you've seen all the disney classic movies

and you've seen cinderella and snow white and

sleeping beauty and all these uh characters we've

talked about previously um and then you have

a bunch of movies where the you know the main

characters are you know it seems like they're

animals or they're um something like that you

know like dumbo and bambi and you know even with

like aristocats and robin hood's animals and

jungle books basically animals and then aladdin

finally comes around especially right after beauty

and the beast and and little mermaid and you

have one of the main characters is a human male

And I don't know, for me, that resonated growing

up. And I loved the voicing of him. I loved the

music in this. I think his moment when he's singing

the riff -raff part, riff -raff street rat, and

just being able to somehow see him as this person

who is on both, gets to try to experience both

sides of it, being the lowly, you know, person

being chased as a criminal to, you know, being

married to a princess, et cetera. I don't know.

There's a lot to love about this movie. I had

it ranked number one, but I will get off my soapbox

and let someone else talk. Dan, what do you think

about Aladdin? If I were going to talk about

my favorite Disney movie of all time, it is actually

my favorite just personally, but it's not the

one I ranked the highest just because I don't

think it's necessarily quality wise, the best

one. Like you mentioned as a kid, I don't. We

watched this, or it was on TV the other day,

into one of those movies. I just know word for

word. I've watched it so many times. Just every

single line just comes to me. Again, so many

great songs. You talked about the characters.

I mean, the animation too. I love the, like the,

it got me right away when you see that, the head

of the, I guess you would say tiger or whatever

it is. Tale of Wonders, yeah. Yeah, I thought

that was amazing. hooked me in and i've been

hooked ever since um you know magic carpet so

much great humor and it also was one of the best

uh disney uh psychogenesis games i've ever played

in my life so major points for it there so yeah

i 100 deserving of top 10 uh so i like you kevin

share your love of this movie excellent neil

aladdin good or bad good movie i didn't rank

it that high but it's Of the 90s Disney films,

or at least the early 90s Disney films, this

might be my least favorite. But it's good. Yeah,

Robin Williams is not exactly my favorite comedian,

but he was funny in this movie. So I'll give

him credit for that. I liked the voice of the

parrot, which was Gilbert Gottfried. Yes. I think

he stole the movie. I love that character. Just

because it's... I shouldn't even call it a character

because it just is Gilbert Gottfried. Just totally

bleeding over the character and being himself.

The aristocrats. So, yeah. And a healthy dose

of Frank Welker in here as well. Oh, yeah. Two

healthy doses, actually. Who disrupts my slumber?

That was eerily good. Lots of practice. You should

practice that more than Megatron now. Yeah, Aladdin,

okay. Let me see here. I'm trying to remember.

I did not actually get to see this in theaters,

which is a damn shame. We were, and I don't know

if it's still like this nowadays because I go

to only matinee showings now. But back in 92

when this came out. We were going, my dad, my

aunt, my cousin and I were going to go see this

in the theater. The theater was like, I don't

know, five blocks away from where we were living.

And the line stretched for four of the five blocks.

Literally, the line was around the corner of

the building and down the street. to get in to

see this film. It had that much... It was that

anticipated. And like Dan said, everything about

this movie, and like you said, Kev, everything

about it is really, really, really cool. Yeah,

Jafar isn't the... Technically, magically, he's

probably... the best out of all the Disney villains

outside. I would say he's, like, if we were doing

awards, he's the best male Disney magician on

the evil side. And, of course, his, sadly, not

former wife, Maleficent, would be the female

version. But I don't know. This movie, yes, it's

Robin Williams. Yes, it has great songs. It has

a great plot. I see the Sultan now in so many

different King roles. How stupid the Sultan was

in this movie. And Neil is right. You know, Gilbert

Gottfried, the parrot really kind of stole the

show in this. He really, really did. For me,

the genie stole the show, but, but I can see

that. Oh, okay. But on the villain side. Who

are you going to be more enjoyable to see, Jafar

or Iago? I mean, Jafar, really, if you... Well,

the thing that Jafar did good, though, he was

just... He was a villain that was honestly creepy

and you didn't want to see and you believe he's

a villain 100%. I'm not saying he's my favorite

villain, but he is a villain. Oh, yeah. I don't

know. That sounded stupid, but he is what you

want from a villain, someone that you don't want

to be seen at all and that creeps you out. And

yeah, you're right, the genie. I mean, you know,

Robin Williams, his comedy, if you like it, you

like it. If you don't, you don't. What I love

about that guy is almost everything I've seen

him in, he's using a million different voices.

And the genie is no exception. It was a perfect

showcase for him. And how many quotable lines

is there from this that the kids would just repeat

and repeat and repeat? Wasn't he also... I'm

trying to remember. I'm going to have to look

it up. Didn't he also do a second role? Wasn't

he the guy in the beginning? Yes. The narrator.

That character was supposed to be the genie,

but they changed the ending. Oh, did they? Steve,

you haven't got to talk. I don't think about

Aladdin, have you? No. What do you think about

it? I love this film. It's one of the few classic,

or if you can consider it classic, well, technically

it is because it's all CG now, Disney films that

I find myself going back and watching over and

over and never getting bored of. I really love

the, especially now I go and I sit and I can

pick out different voices like Jim Cummings,

Frank Walker. You know, all these different voice

actors I'm starting to pick up on because I know

who they are. But I love the story, the animation,

the music. Of course, Gilbert Gottfried in his

Iago role and then Robert Williams is the genie.

I just I love every aspect of this film. It's.

I ranked it at 12 on my list, but I definitely

like it where it's at. So I have no problem with

where it's at. Who would have thought that wasn't

the kid from Full House doing the voice of Aladdin?

Is that right? Is that the right show that he

was on? Growing Pains, I think. Oh, okay. Yeah,

I do. We used to talk about the songs a lot.

Whole New World and One Jump Ahead. I don't know.

There was a lot of good music in here. But again,

that was prototypical for that time period of

Disney. And then we are left with five spots

remaining on our countdown. So although we can't

get to the number Dan predicted, we can get close.

Let's start with number five from Pixar from

2004. And that movie is The Incredibles. Again,

one person left this off of their list, and that

was it. It was ranked number one, as are most

of the films we've been talking about. 1 ,533

points, just edging out Aladdin by about 10 points

or so, 11 points. Number five on our list, The

Incredibles, Dan. Amazing. I don't know if I

put it up number five, but top 10, top 15, I

don't have an issue with it. A lot of great characters.

Again, I love how it takes a lot of the tropes

of the superhero genre and flips them on their

head. And, too, it's kind of like the best Fantastic

Four movie you're probably ever going to get,

though it's not necessarily Fantastic Four. Just

that dynamic is similar in some ways. But, yeah.

I love to just edit like some of the action sequences

in this are so well done and so well handled

and different use of powers and whatnot. It's

also really funny. I mean, I think because of

Incredibles, people look at capes a lot differently

in superheroes. And yeah, exactly. So, yeah,

I I love the Incredibles. I don't know if I would.

Number five is tough just because it's that's

it's hard for almost any movie when you get up

this high. But. I don't have an issue with it

being in top ten. Mike, are you a fan of the

film? Have you seen it? Incredibles? I've seen

it over and over and over again. All right. I

love this movie. It's interesting to me the path

that Jason Lee has taken as an actor because

he voices the villain syndrome in this. Overall,

you know... I pretty much, which is probably

shocking to a lot of people, the world might

be about to break because I pretty much agree

with Dan. I mean, it's an overall amazing film.

Neil should be snickering at that world about

to break. Yes. The voice cast is amazing. The

plot is cool. You have two children, one who

is skeptical about her powers and the other one

in Dash who wants to just embrace them. That's

an interesting dynamic. You have the, I guess

you could say, overweight insurance salesman,

kind of down on his luck kind of guy, trying

to get back in the game because he's a superhero

that isn't a hero anymore. I really, really enjoy

this film, and if they ever do make a sequel,

I don't know where they could take it from here.

Steve, do you want a sequel for The Incredibles?

Yes. This was one of the films I was wondering

why the hell they never went back to it. I really

enjoy it. One, for the superhero aspect, too,

because they're in a superhero protection program.

which I find very funny. And I just love watching

the progression of this down -and -out hero having

to come back into his own, and only this time

it's with his family, and then you have Syndrome,

and then they leave it off as if they were going

on another adventure -type thing at the end,

another battle, but they also left it to where

they could pick it up right where it left off.

I found it to be a very enjoyable film. I really

like it. I think I've read that they are working

on a sequel to it, but I could be mistaken. I

just, in the process of us recording the episode,

I looked at Pixar's upcoming list and it says

there's a bunch of unannounced stuff, but like

out of the rest of. next year there's actually

i don't even think that pixar is doing a film

next year unless they haven't announced it because

the way their list reads is the next film they've

got coming up is in 2015 i will say about the

incredibles one of the coolest things quite literally

is samuel jackson is frozen that's amazing and

the commentary on being a hero and having a home

life specifically to him and his wife i love

that scene this is for the greater good greater

good i am your wife steve uh do you have anything

else that you read uh no i mean i i just i really

love that film it's uh i i feel it's very deserving

of its placement you'll agree or disagree i agree

that well the placement i think i would switch

this around with the iron giant because that's

my bias but this completes the brad bird trifecta

which is this the iron giant and uh rat chef

um i i gotta say i love this movie i love that

it's it's a love letter to to the superhero genre

but it also pokes fun at it like the whole monologuing

thing you caught me monologuing you know I loved

that because that's what superheroes do. They

stand there and talk with their bombastic speeches.

It's like, why doesn't someone just throw a punch?

Oh my god, this movie. Craig T. Nelson. I love

these casting choices. You would never imagine

these people in these roles, but yeah, Craig

T. Nelson was perfect. Who was the wife? Helen

Hunt, was it? No, it was... Not Helen Hunt. It's

– oh, what's her name? She was in – Everyone

listening is screaming out the name. Yes, I know.

It's Holly Hunter. That's what it is. Yeah, there

are some actresses that I just get confused.

But this is such a great movie. Yeah, the introverted

daughter and the extrovert son and how that resolves

toward the end of the movie. I like that it's

one of these films that says like – Yes, if you

have a special talent, you should be able to

express it, and you should be what you want to

be, just like the Iron Giant. God, this is such

a good movie. I love Brad Bird. He should do

more cartoons, but sadly, I think he's moved

on. All right. Well, unanimous love for Incredibles

amongst the panel, and then there were four.

Four. Well, some people may be upset, but remember,

it's still at number four, so that is darn good,

but I know some people were championing it on

the message boards or the website pages as far

as thinking it could possibly be number one.

Number four is 1994 film from Disney, and that

would be The Lion King. On 17 lists, so three

people felt it necessary to... Leave Lion King

off entirely. 1 ,534 points just edging out Incredibles

for the number four spot. Two people had it ranked

number one. And like I had mentioned before,

if we were taking that limited rank as far as

just ranking based on lists that it appeared

on, Lion King would have been number one. I'm

really surprised it's not. I was really... I'm

speechless. Three films ranked higher than Lion

King. So let's get our first opinion on Lion

King. Outranking Aladdin by two spots, outranking

Beauty and the Beast by three spots, outranking

Little Mermaid by more than that. Coming in at

number four, Mike, you started and so will continue.

I'm just speechless. Other three films could

be better than this, unless you're... And this

is one, I honestly, as much as I said Aladdin

was my number one pick, I went back and forth

for days on if it was going to be Aladdin Lion

King or Lion King Aladdin. So I feel that they're

equally amazing. First of all, let's get the

pop culture stuff out of the way. Darth Vader

is a lion, really? No, you don't say. That was

TFG on mic, everybody. round of applause yeah

well what's funny is when i watch it with my

wife or whenever we hear his voice on something

i'm like dearth vader she's like mufasa my only

complaint with this film and it's not really

a complaint is i i very much enjoyed um simba

as a cub and Simba as kind of an adolescent growing

up, I wish they would have spent a little bit

more time there instead of just doing the montage

to when he was older. I know there was probably

not an easy way to, you're not going to show

his entire life, but I enjoyed his younger years

almost even more. So I wanted more of that. And

I liked the singing voice and the speaking voice

of Simba as a young kid, but I mean, come on,

you got Hakuna Matata, you got a circle of life.

Yeah. So much good stuff about Lion King. Cool

Disney villain in Scar, I guess. Whoopi Goldberg

in this movie. Hyenas, yep. There's a lot of

good things to say. Whoopi Goldberg and Sheech

Marin. Two of the three hyenas. I think the other

one might have been Frank Welker. Oh, I'm sure.

It was. Steve, your thoughts on The Lion King?

It's definitely a very memorable film. Really

good. I think it's one of the greatest of the

90s of Disney by far, and it definitely kind

of blows away everything in the past. Not only

for the animal -based ones, but for just visually

and musically and every other aspect of the film.

It's really well done. just all, all the care

they took into making things sound authentic

and, and to some degree and, uh, kind of, uh,

it gives you that showing of, of death and animation,

but it's not like, I don't know. It's, it has

a deeper meaning in this film. Whereas most of

the other ones, it's kind of like, yeah, they're

dead. Boom. Next scene. You know? So, I mean,

it's, it's, it's, There's a lot of different

moments that it touches on in a person's life

kind of thing in this film. Just to clarify,

the third Hyena was Jim Cummings, not Frank Welker.

Oh, okay. Either way, continue what you're going

to say. Either way, I mean, it's not... Yeah,

they're both legends in their own right. The

one thing that this film did that a lot of...

that I didn't really notice a lot of other Disney

films do... Scar blamed Simba for Mufasa's death.

You didn't see that a lot. I mean, we might have

seen it, but you didn't really see that kind

of thing a lot of the whole thing. You might

see self -exile in a Disney film, but you don't

see self -exile because someone blames you for

killing your own father. And Jeremy Irons as

Scar. While Scar may not be one of the greatest

Disney villains of all time, Jeremy Irons is

easily one of the Disney villain voices of all

time. Yeah, that's probably true. Neil, thoughts

on Lion King? Love this movie. This is probably

the movie I've seen the most of all the movies

on this list, just because there's a girl in

high school who made me watch this almost every

week, and I would be dumb enough to do it. But

anyway, yeah, this is a great movie, and I love

– you guys were talking about Simba carrying

that burden and being blamed for the death of

Mufasa. Yeah, that's a pretty dark thing to do

to a character. I think it really gave a weight

to Simba that a lot of other Disney characters

just don't have because that's a big guilt to

carry on your shoulders. I love some of the visual

gags in the movie. The one that comes to mind

most is the Nazi walk with the hyenas during

the song that Jeremy Irons was singing. And speaking

of that song, you guys were talking about how

much of a god Jim Cummings was. Jeremy Irons

sings the first half of that song, and then at

some point in the middle, it switches to Jim

Cummings. And you would never catch it if you

didn't know. God, who else was in that movie?

Oh, Mr. Bean. What was his name? I'm blanking

on actors' names in this episode. Nathan, who

are you talking about? Oh, Rowan Atkinson. Yeah,

Rowan Atkinson. We have to mention him. God,

he was great in that role. Zazu. Singing, I've

got a lovely bunch of coconuts. Great scene.

We could just spend an hour talking about all

the great scenes in this movie. Yeah, I was kind

of shocked that it wasn't number one. That was

kind of the one I was betting on. And I'm kind

of blanking, like, what the hell could be above

this? I'm out of guesses, so I guess we're going

to find out. We haven't talked about Nathan Lane

and Ernie Sabella as Timon and Pumbaa as much,

or Matthew Broderick as the adult Simba. Ferris

Bueller as adult Simba was genius casting. Jonathan

Taylor Thomas was good as the young version,

too. Yes, no, he was. He was. I'm just glad I

saw him outside of Tim the Toolman Taylor's show.

Did anyone hear the other? voice actor that was

uh recorded as doing the song that got cut as

simba it's not nearly as good anyway um dan are

you equally surprised that this is number four

yeah i thought this was number one for sure just

based upon like the love of like 90s and 2000

disney that's been on the list so far i just

assumed this would be number one so i am again

like everyone else very shocked that it's at

number four that's I, you know, like it's almost

speechless. It was the highest Disney movie I

ranked. It's not my favorite, like I mentioned,

but I think it is the crowning achievement of

Disney. I think it has nearly every element of

Disney, of what it makes a great Disney movie.

You have that emotional parent or death that

has an impact on the character. You have great

side characters. You have amazing music. I mean,

it says something about like the Lion King when

you can get such a, like it. Made into a Broadway

show. And it's just as successful. From a visual

standpoint. It was just the landscapes. And the.

It's just like amazing. There is. I mean like

Mike mentioned. And Neil mentioned. Some of the

emotional. Complexity to the movie. Is. Not to

say unheard of. But something I think is missing

a lot. With Disney as of late. Like they. If

you look at some of the issues that you have

Simba dealing with, they're complex, they're

dark. That moment seeing Mufasa die, that's a

challenging moment for sure, especially when

you see Simba coming up and trying to wake up

his father. And too, like I think Mike mentioned,

it says something about death as well or taking

up your destiny. those different elements as

well and two i just love the final moment when

you have like uh that final climax battle and

just with the fire raging it's just it's to me

it's amazing um i think it should be higher i

top three top two but i mean it's number four

so i guess you can't get all that upset so but

i know that's the same thing i was like i think

it should be higher but there's only a couple

spots higher you can be but it should still be

higher um But yeah, I guess people are scratching

their heads and trying to come up with their

list of three films that are above this. They

call him Mr. B. So we'll have to see. This may

be perhaps the most interesting of our top ten

because nobody ranked it number one. And that's

the only film in our top ten that nobody ranked

number one. And actually, nobody ranked it number

two either. The highest it got ranked was number

three. And it comes in at number three. And that

is a film from 2009 and from Pixar. So this is

one of the ones that is outranking Lion King,

and that would be the film Up. On 19 of the 20

lists, Rotten Tomatoes gives it a 98. Again,

if we were to do that limited ranking, it would

have came in fifth instead of third. So I would

have changed things up a little bit. So Up is

one of the films that we were trying to come

up with. What could outrank Lion King? Well,

we have outranked it with Up. Is that correct

or incorrect, Dan? I don't have an issue with

it, per se. I think I rank Lion King higher.

They're two amazing movies, two movies that are

doing vastly different things, though. I know

that a lot of people make mention, this is not

my original idea by any means, but a lot of people

say that, you know, Up had a more interesting

and complex love story in 10 minutes than the

Twilight films had in six movies. And I think

that's very true. I mean, we talked, I think

Neil was making mention of this earlier when

he talked about WALL -E and being able to tell

a story without words. And it does that within

its first few moments. too we mentioned how Pixar

likes to challenge themselves you can't challenge

yourself that much more than having a protagonist

in an animated film that's like a you know 75

year old man um that's you know I I can imagine

just Disney just thinking there's no way this

could work because you're not going to want to

see a movie about an old guy but they made it

work it it there's so much something about I

guess the you know the that Setting the stage

in the beginning, I think, makes everything that

follows so much better because you have an idea

of the motivations of what's going on. And and

to just the concept of it, it's just so out there.

It's like I never would have think of a house

floating in the air with a bunch of balloons

and how that would work. And there's a lot of

great humor. I love the dog, you know, the dog

collar that you can hear them talk that I found

endlessly funny with squirrels. I mean, that's

to me always going to be. But anyway, yeah, it's

tough to say if it should rank higher than Lion

King. I personally didn't, but I'm not going

to get upset about it. I think it's certainly

deserving of top five. So it's really, you know,

you're good no matter what you get with this,

I guess. Mike, let's go to you next. You're the

only one out of the 20 that did not rank up.

Because I think at the time when I made the list,

I hadn't seen it yet. That's the only reason

why. I have seen it since, and I do enjoy it,

but I enjoy other Pixar movies more. It is an

amazing story. It is a good story. It's an interesting

take on the whole... As Dan said, it's an interesting

take on the love story, but it's also an interesting

take of love story and best... Weren't the two

guys, the hero and the villain, weren't they

best friends at one point, or weren't they friends

in... previous years or something or other no

he it's one of those he looked up like the the

villain in it was someone that he looked up to

as a child i believe that's right yeah it's some

sort of similar friend kind of thing and we've

seen that before uh you know i'm not saying that

against the movie um i i will agree with dan

i did like the dog but that other thing Actually,

that other thing, which is actually named Kevin

for some stupid reason. I didn't particularly

care for that character. That doesn't surprise

me. But no, I mean, I think it's an emotionally

charged movie, and I think it was a really good

movie. I personally, on our list, I would flip

-flop three and four. I don't think this is better

than Lion King, but it's interesting to see where

it fell. Steve, is it worthy of being in our

top five and in this case our top three? I don't

know if I'd put it in the top five because I

think there's other ones that are within the

last few films that could have been moved higher

up in place of it. But I can definitely see it

being in the top 15 anyway. I mean, it's an overall

enjoyable film, and I do have to agree with the

comment earlier about it tells more of a story

than Twilight. That's not hard to do, though.

But it's a nice little adventure and story that

kind of one of those end -of -life fulfillment

type things. and of course the young kid and

everything else. It's not one of my favorite

films, but I definitely see a place for it in

the top 15. Neil, agree or disagree? I put it

at number five, so I think it does deserve to

be in the top five. It's hard to say whether

this is better or not as good as Lion King, because

it's starting to all blur together now. How could

I possibly rank these now? I do think that this

is a great film, and it does deserve to be in

the top five. When Blanchard said something about

that other thing, I was like, please don't be

talking about Russell, the little Boy Scout kid

who was also along on the journey. Oh, no, no,

no, no, no, no. I was talking about the animals.

Yeah, I know. But, yeah, that was a cute thing

that I wasn't even expecting in the movie was

the kid just tagging along on the adventure.

I like that character. He was very atypical,

A, because he's Asian, and B, because he's fat.

He's like this little fat kid who you don't see

that in a lot of animated films. So that was

kind of cool. Great film. That's all I've got

to say. Another unanimous opinion amongst us.

And there's only two spots left. What could we

possibly have left? Or what out there are people

still trying to see squeezed into the countdown

that now they are losing hopes of? Let's see

what's next. Well, with number two and with number

one, we are going to pass a couple milestones

here because the last three films, the last four

films have been in the 1500 point range. This

should give people an idea as far as the voting

went. It's not even close now. The last four

were in the 1500s. The next two are in the 1700s.

So the next two blew the competition out of the

water. And also the next two films both appeared

on all submitted lists. So nobody left either

of these next two films off of their list. So

let's start with number two, and that would be

2010's film from Pixar, Toy Story 3. 1713 points

20 list was ranked 1 by 1 person Rotten Tomatoes

score of 99 and if you were taking the limited

rank it would have dropped down to number 4 on

our list but it comes in at number 2 Toy Story

3 Neil? Oh my god this movie yeah much better

than Toy Story 2 this is Words do not describe

this movie. The first image that always comes

into my mind of this is like almost at the end

where they're like they're in the incinerator

and they're all they think they're all going

to die. And I'm kind of giving away the end of

the movie. Well, not exactly, but they think

they're all going to die and, and they all hold

hands together. And I'm like, Oh my God, it's

kind of dark. It's always burned into your head

is because that's what they use. That's what

the trailer companies used as the promotional

stuff. That's true. Yeah. But it's, it's the

fact that they just went there and it's a very

powerful emotional scene. It's God, that seems

great. God, this is. I've tried to remember.

I've only seen this movie a couple times, but

I'm trying to remember more of it, but I can't.

But I do know that it was so good. Yeah, I've

just got nothing. Steve, coming in at number

two is Toy Story 3. Quite a few spots higher

than Toy Story 2. What are your thoughts? I don't

have a problem with it, although this is... telling

of what number one will be um just saying um

but no i mean i i really love this film i i i

think for a a sequel and coming this late in

the game i think that it knocked it out of the

park um but there's there's definitely a lot

of great moments in this this film uh making

it a perfect send -off for it if they never made

another one again. It's like every conversation

we had throughout the 100 countdown about sequels,

it was like, Toy Story aside, Toy Story sequels

aside, let's talk about all the other sequels.

Will we see anything else besides those sequels?

Dan, Toy Story 3 coming in at number two. Yeah,

and I think this is probably, I talked about,

I think a Lion King is a crowning achievement

of Disney. I think this is, at this point, probably

the crowning achievement of Pixar. You know,

it started with Toy Story, and I think everything

that's come after this hasn't been as good. Not

saying they can't get back there, but yeah, like

Neil mentioned, that scene in the incinerator,

it is, like, you didn't think a story about toys

could have so... much like weight to it and so

much like sadness and like i think that says

a lot about pixar when you when you actually

sit back and think you know what they could actually

kill all these characters but there's many studios

that you'd actually think that um and i think

that's that they've earned that moment throughout

everything they've done up to that point um i

just love too how pixar can pixar's at its best

it's when it takes Like, with The Incredibles

or other movies, it takes certain concepts or

certain elements and puts it in its movie, and

sometimes you don't even realize it. Like, a

lot of the movie with the daycare center and,

like, how it adds in moments of, like, Cool Hand

Luke and The Great Escape and all these little

elements of the, you know, other movies that

deal with, you know, the same concepts of the

prisons and whatnot. And, too, just little touches

the animation. Like, you see them getting...

And these characters getting like marks on on

them like from markers and stuff like that almost

directly almost like pseudo prison tattoos and

away just and how they're how they change throughout

time to and There's not many movies that can

bring in like So many new characters and still

but all the new characters are just as interesting

just as fleshed out they fit into the world perfectly

and you know the into like this is probably the

best villain of all the Toys R movies by far

You know, so I watched something about him. Just,

you know, he's just an evil character and just

how you kind of you don't know at first. And

you have an idea and how he develops and everything,

too. But, yeah, it's it's an emotionally powerful

movie. And that last beyond the last few moments,

the closing moments of this movie, like you like,

I think we would all say is just. it puts the

perfect bow on the end of this movie it's anyone

that's ever had toys anyone who's ever like it

just speaks so much to childhood and letting

go of your childhood in that last few moments

of the closing moments and it's it it is so i

mean you know it can easily bring a tear to your

eye and what's what it's able to do so very deserving

of top five i think it kind of like steve mentioned

we kind of know where it's going from here so

uh but Interesting nonetheless. And what do you

think of James Bond as Mr. Pricklepants? Hey,

he's got a good voice to him. I gotta give him

that. I think to me that the standout was Michael

Keaton as Ken. He was just hilarious. I am not

a doll! I love this movie. This movie is... As

much as I enjoy the first Toy Story, this movie

for me personally is the best one out of all

three because of how emotionally charged it is.

You know, everything that Dan just said, because

of all of that, this movie is so good. And what

I love about Pixar is when they do movies like

this, whether this is the final installment or

not, they then take those characters and give

us other stuff like Partysaurus Rex or Hawaiian

Vacation or other little shorts without having

to do a whole nother film. And I wish studios

would kind of pay more attention to that. Overall,

Toy Story 3, I absolutely loved it. Michael Keaton

and Jodie Benson as Ken and Barbie, that's just

perfect casting. That is just... The Little Mermaid

and Batman in a relationship in a toy movie.

That's amazing. This will always go down for

me as the animated movie that made grown men

cry. That's all I heard about from people that

were seeing this when it had come out in the

theater. Neil, anything you want to say about

Toy Story before we move on? Yeah, there was

one last thing I wanted to point out. Something

I almost forgot. For anyone who's an anime fan

and is a little... Kind of hurt that there's

none in the top 20. I just want to say that Totoro

is in Toy Story 3. Best cameo of the movie, and

I missed it the first time. I can't believe I

didn't see him. There you go. So there's only

one spot left. Let's get to the revealing. Coming

in number one on our top 100 animated film countdown.

Brother Bear. 1770 points. It was on all 20 lists.

Like I said, if you took its limited rank, it

would drop down to number three, but it comes

in number one for us. Rotten Tomatoes score of

100 from 2009. Naruto the movie. Okay, I'm just

kidding. That was at the other end of our list.

That was the worst ranked movie that got a vote.

Of course, it is the original. film from 1995

and that would be toy story um the first one

uh just go around the panel here not that you

didn't see this coming dan uh toy story coming

in at number one i mean i would say it's interesting

they're coming back to back like this i would

think as if you were comparing toy story toy

story 3 i think toy story 3 is probably a better

movie but Also considering the fact that you

have 15 years of animation that went with it

and that allowed them to go beyond that. And

two, I think a lot of what Toy Story 3 is able

to accomplish, a lot of that emotional weight

that's there would not exist without the original

Toy Story. Oh no, yeah. And I mean, I love Toy

Story. It was, I think I ranked it within my

top five, top three. I feel like I've said that

about 20 movies by now. But I just can't think

on top of my head. I ranked it really high. I

think it was the highest Pixar movie. Again,

similar to Snow White, but I think it's a lot

better. You look at where we are with animation.

CGI has taken over. Unfortunately, classic hand

-drawn animation has gone by the wayside. Or,

unfortunately, depending on who you are. And

a lot of that was due to Pixar. I mean, it was

an innovation of innovations. And it was, again,

a really good movie with a lot of great characters.

So I have no issue with it being number one.

I think if you were going to say any movie is

the best animated movie of all time, you almost

always run the risk of hyperbole and overstating

it. It's tough to give that moniker to anything.

I think there's a few that can. wear that monocle

man wear that reward well toy story is one of

them lion king is another so i personally don't

have any issue with it being number one i think

you can argue there are better movies but considering

its overall quality its impact on the genre and

every all the things like court sides how it

launched pixar into you know what it is today

it i i think it's deserving for sure uh steve

toy story coming in at number one Definitely

cannot argue. I pretty much agree with everything

everybody's already said. It's far and wide the

best Pixar film overall. I mean, just because

that's what started them out and the fact that

this one film spawned every Pixar film since

and spawned the only successful sequels out of...

Pixar, I think that speaks volumes. For sure.

Mike? Toy Story was, as we've kind of already

said, was groundbreaking. Toy Story and Lion...

What I'd like to see is, I'd like to see in the

comments for this episode if people want to argue

Toy Story versus Lion King. And I honestly think

we should probably take the... What did you call

it? The limited rank? Yeah, take the limited

-ranked number one film and the actual number

one film and do a GCR and Wars episode. No, I'm

dead serious. Lion King versus Toy Story. Well,

let me just, for shits and giggles here, taking

our top ten rank as we did it, going from ten

to one. Finding Nemo, WALL -E, Iron Giant, Beauty

and the Beast, Aladdin, Incredibles, Lion King,

up, Toy Story 3, and Toy Story. If we were to

take the limited rank, going in reverse order

from 1 to 10, we would have had Lion King, number

1, Beauty and the Beast, number 2, Toy Story,

number 3, Toy Story 3 would be next, then up,

then actually it would go to Akira at number

6, Spirited Away at 7, Incredibles at 8, Princess

Mononoke at number 9, and then Aladdin at number

10. So that would have been the limited rank

version. One of the best things I love about

this movie, and I didn't realize it when I first

saw it when it came out, but ever since then

I know. You basically have Sergeant Hartman as

the Army Sergeant in this. Arlie Ermey was the

voice of Sarge. I absolutely love that. And the

voice, I mean, Tom Hanks and Tim Allen as Woody

and Buzz, that's awesome. You've got Cliff Clavin

as Dr. Porkchop. You've got Don Rickles as Potato

Head. Was he Potato Head? Yep. Yeah. You've got

Don Rickles as Potato Head, and then getting...

And I know we're not talking about the sequels.

I have to. Okay, Toy Story 2 is not... It's the

middle film. To me, it's an okay film. It's not

a bad film at all. But the fact in Toy Story

2 that they... At the end of this film, it's

a Mrs. Potato Head. A Mrs. Potato Head, everybody.

And in the next film, you're wondering, who are

they going to cast to voice her? They get George

Costanza's mom to voice Mrs. Potato Head. That

was simply amazing casting. As far as the first

film, there's nothing wrong. If anyone can nitpick

this film and find something wrong with it, there's

something wrong with that person. Well, I mean,

you can find something wrong with everything,

probably. No, no, no. I mean, like, truly nitpick

every single piece of the film. Sure, yeah, you're

going to find something wrong, but yeah. Absolutely

loved it. I love the animosity between Buzz and

Woody. I love the fact that they have to come

together and team up. I really like the alien

guys from Pizza Planet. I thought they were cool.

Overall, I cannot say anything against where

we have this film at this point. I mean, it truly

is one of the most groundbreaking films of all

time. I'm getting a little lost just because

we had dual back -to -back Toy Stories. Is there

anybody I haven't let speak on Toy Story, the

original? I have not spoken yet. Go ahead. Well,

everyone's been gushing about this, so I'm going

to go in a different direction. Still going to

gush, but I'm going to gush over the voice actors.

or actually over the characters, basically that

they took all these beloved old toys that we

all grew up with and made them real characters.

I mean, look at Potato Head, Don Rickles. Looking

back, there was a Potato Head cartoon series,

and this blows that away. The Slinky Dog wasn't

even in production when this movie was made,

and they brought it back. Yeah, the army sergeant.

Everyone had those green army men. Everyone had

them. Yeah. God, this is, I mean, it was, oh,

Hot Wheels was in this. They had the Red Baron

car, which was the coolest car. And the only

toy that they didn't get was Barbie. And Mattel

was like, sure as hell knocking on Disney's door

to get her in the next movie. Yeah. Yeah, whoever

the person was that was sitting in the meeting

or the pitch room or whatever, the first person

that had the idea to do what you're saying and

come up with all these classic toys and tournament

characters deserves all the credit in the world.

And whoever was at Mattel who said, we're not

putting Barbie in this movie, that person should

be fired. Fired. Yeah, for sure. Great movie.

I don't want to get in too much of overall reactions

because we will do that in the wrap -up show.

But in each episode, we've at least reacted to

the episode in itself. So looking back at 20

through 1. Breaking it down a little bit, obviously

Disney and Pixar dominated. We didn't quite get

to the ten Pixar films that Dan predicted. We

got to eight of them. And we had one DreamWorks

film and one Warner Brothers film. Otherwise,

the rest were Disney. I saw a bunch of the classic

Disney princesses early on. Then we saw the 90s

Disney come up. later on with Wreck -It Ralph

thrown in between, which I said might be the

surprise of the top 20. Just looking overall

at our 20 through 1, though, get your reactions.

And then, like I said, we'll have all kinds of

time to react to the list overall, to break down

numbers by decade, by years, by companies, by

all kinds of different things. We'll get into

honorable mentions and all the stuff that did

get voted on but did not make the list since

there was 350 films that got voted on. We'll

talk about those that we haven't talked about

yet. So we'll do all that in the wrap up show.

But just looking at the 20 through one, Dan,

what's your reaction? Surprised and not surprised.

Surprised by number one in some ways, because

I think like most I thought it'd be Lion King.

Not surprised there's so many Pixar movies. It's

it's hard to really argue against it, though.

I mean, they're they have been I think they brought

animation up to another level in a lot of ways

and have been such a dominated force and for

such a long time. I mean, obviously Wreck -It

Ralph, like I said, I don't dislike the movie,

but it's probably the biggest surprise that it's

made it up this high. And I did find it interesting

when you mentioned the limited average and what

the top 10 would be if we went off just that.

And I think that's almost a better, I think that

says a lot about the list overall. I think kind

of... what i've noticed so far is this isn't

necessarily it's kind of like family feud in

a way where the answers aren't necessarily the

right answers the answers are the ones people

are most likely to give um just like it's kind

of more popularity than quality which is fine

i think it's what happens when you have such

a huge pool of people that they get from but

um i am happy about a lot of it iron giant making

it a top 10 i think is great uh laden and lion

king being in you know in the top 10 so happy

overall and i I think it's kind of a good way

to end. And after the wrap up and everything,

I will post or we will post dual versions of

the list. We will post that limited list so that

people can react to that in general as well to

see how different it may have been. Because there

is definitely some changes that would have happened

overall. And I will say that you might have been.

The most pleasantly surprised as to how things

changed if we go off of limited average, given

the first film we talked about. Would have came

in the top 20. So that will be an interesting

list to look at in reaction to this as well.

Neil, your thoughts on 20 through 1? Pretty solid,

I think. Yeah, Wreck -It Ralph is probably the

big surprise. I would still put a... Pretty high,

but probably not as high as it ended up being.

I know I didn't rank it anywhere near that high,

but I wasn't, like I said earlier, I wasn't too

upset that it got there. Everything else, pretty

solid. I would probably jumble some of them around

if it were my decision, but I can't complain

about how it ended up. I pretty much, there were

no drop the mic, walk away moments for me this

time around. That's good. It's... It's very interesting,

this top 100, because not all of the DC films

got ranked, but a majority of them did, yet Marvel

never showed up. There's a reason for that. Yeah.

Keep it to 20 through 1, sir. I know, I know.

I'm just saying, it's really, really interesting.

But 20 to 1, I really have no complaints. Like

Neil said, there are probably a few I'd jumble

around. Other than that, I'm fine with it. And

like I said at the beginning, I don't think anyone

can make the argument. Like I said, you can jumble

them around. You can change the ranks. But these

are all the ones that we talked about, 20 through

1, are definitely deserving to be on our list

somewhere. You can't make an argument that any

of them should not be on our list. In fact, I'm

sure you can't really make an argument that any

of them shouldn't be in our top 50 probably.

I mean, I guess you could. It gets a little bit

easier to make that argument. But they all deserve

to be somewhere here. Steve, thoughts on 20 through

1? Some of them I agree with, some of them I

don't. Like the older Disney stuff in there,

I mean, I still see other films that could have

been in there, certain ones replaced. So in that

instance, I can see that. But I think pretty

much everything that's in the top 10, I really

can't argue with the fact that they're in the

top 10. Right. And that's the thing. In order

to put something else in the top 10, you have

to take something out. And that's another way

to look at it. I will say I'm somewhat interested

or surprised possibly that as far as classic

Disney, we didn't see anything past number 14

on our list. And in fact, after Sleeping Beauty

came in at number 14, we didn't see anything

that predated 1991. Beauty and the Beast in 1991

was the earliest film. in our top 13 films. So

definitely dominated by, you know, the last few

decades. So that was a little surprising. I thought

maybe an older film, a classic Disney film would

sneak somewhere in there, but it did not. Anyone

else thoughts on that or anything else before

we, I know we don't have a, I'm actually looking

forward to the wrap up show because we get to

do a whole lot of fun discussion and analyzing

and talking about honorable mentions. So it'll

be fun. Last words going around the table, Mike,

anything before we close up? No. I mean, it's

been a blast overall, and it's been really interesting

seeing the different reactions on the website.

Like you said, we'll get to that next time around.

But no. I mean, 20 to 1, I can't argue with it.

All right. Steve or Neil or Dan, anybody last

thoughts before we close out and get ready for

our wrap -up? I'm just glad there's no big, bad

movie. I think we listed that as really... surprising

or i think out of place so and that's pretty

pretty good movie did not turn up in the top

10 so no no and no and no brother bear either

so that's always that was now that had a chance

so i think it's a rather fair list honestly so

i'm i am looking forward to just getting hearing

people's feedback on the list as a whole i know

a lot of people predicted kind of where they

thought it was going so That'll be fun just looking

at also just the honorable mentions that didn't

make it because there are a few movies that were

on my list that I think are deserving. But so

it'll be kind of fun to talk about those. Yeah,

I definitely have, you know, we talked about

in order to put stuff on, you have to take stuff

off. I definitely have a good number of films

that I'd like to talk about as far as replacing

some of the 90s and 2000 Disney films that we

saw. So, Mike, what do people need to know feedback

wise, et cetera? Yeah. There you have it, folks.

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