Fanzone Hates Machines and Megatron's Endgame

Greetings, former Decepticons! This is Starscream,

and you're listening to Transformation Animation

Podcast! Where these infernal setbacks never

end, the revolution begins now! Jazz here, and

I'm jiving to this episode of Transformation

Animation featuring Mike Blanchard, Stephen C.

Phillips, and Michael Wilson. Hello, and welcome

to episode 15 of Transformation Animation Podcast.

I am your host, Steve, Jim, and Mike, and joining

me is Steve Megatron. Hello. Hello. And Pecan

Court Michael. Hello. Hey, how's it going? It's

going. How are you, Steve? Doing pretty good.

What have you been up to? Not much. Michael,

what have you been up to? You know, being the

dad, we just got through with Halloween just

a few days ago. And that was exciting. I took

the kids out trick -or -treating. I got a huge

haul of candy. Or I should say the kids got a

huge haul of candy. Right. Yeah, I'm just supervising

it for them. Kind of reminds me of that Bill

Cosby episode, the Cosby Show episode where the

people... The people that you know, those houses

go in the purple bag. The people that you have

houses that you don't know, those go in the red

bag and we'll divide it up after we're done.

It's more like the candy that you like goes in

this bag and the candy that you don't like goes

in this bag. And this bag goes to the adults.

Yeah. Well, I don't know. I'm pretty good about

what I like. Yeah, they're asleep when I start

digging through their bags. They don't know.

Years from now, they'll go back and hear this

and go, he was eating my candy. With any luck

now. So there's that. It's probably my favorite

holiday. A lot of people shoot straight for Christmas,

but I don't know. There's something about Halloween

that I like. You just like the free food and

dressing up. There you go. Like a girl. I don't

dress up. I like, you know. picking out costumes

for the boys. They have a lot of costumes in

the basement so they can dress up as an army

guy or a fireman or a Darth Vader or whatever

they want. Batman and Robin. Well, they were

Batman and Robin for Halloween. Yeah. Very cute.

Just adorable. I have been podcasting as usual.

Getting Jump the Shark off the ground over at

This Week in Geek. Starting to do some cartoon

roundtables over there for them. For Geekcast

Radio Network, we are ever -expanding. Starting

the music spotlight, getting that off the ground.

Doing this show. Legends of the Dark Knight with

Steve. A whole bunch of other stuff. Getting

ready for the end of the year type of episode

that we'll do eventually. Getting the blog post

ready for what's coming in 2012. And I forgot

to do this last week. I had written some notes

on Twitter that I never remembered to go back

and look at. But last week I had notes for episode

14. The Jet Twins are an experiment with Starscream,

just like Protoform X was in Beast Wars. Do it,

Steve. Do it, Steve. Do what? Come on, you know.

X is down there. Okay, not that part. Just the

voice part. And the second thing was Warpath

said any bot that doesn't want to fight is just

as bad as a con. Hello, Mirage, Silverbolt. Who

are the other non -fighters in G1? Beachcomber

was one of those types that didn't really care

to fight. I didn't understand that to begin with

because in this universe, you have the elite

guard that's kind of like the Army, Navy. Yeah.

Marines. Military. The military branch. They're

the ones that are doing the fighting. And then

everyone else is, you know, kind of like your

rat trap and your tracks. And whoever else is

just hanging out on the street going to McAdams

is, I mean, they're noncombatants. I'm not quite

sure where that logic is going. That's because

they like to drink. It might have just been poorly

written. I don't know. Well, it is Transformers

animated. I don't know. Ah! Ooh! Alright, so

I think, without any more further ado, we're

going to get into some episodes. That was Shockwave!

And he's got RC. If he can get those activation

codes out of her... Jetfire! Jetstorm! Open fire!

Take down Omega Supreme! What? You'll blow us

up with him! This is why I hate machines! Certain

machines more than others. First up today in

the final episode review episode is, if that

makes any sense, This Is Why I Hate Machines.

We all know who's going to have a starring role

in this one, don't we? Ratchet activates Bulkhead's

space bridge, which ends up sucking Captain Fanzone

into it with Ratchet following him. They both

end up on Cybertron around the time Sentinel

Prime has declared a lockdown. Omega Supreme

has arrived on Cybertron with Megatron, Starscream's

head, and Lugnut. Thus, Shockwave, still possessing

Ultra Magnus' hammer, attempts to get Omega Supreme's

access codes from Arcee herself. Oh boy. All

right. Oh, boy. In the beginning, I swear. There

was light. No. In the beginning, when Fan Zone

is being attacked by the Sundack security bots,

I know my hearing is not failing me because I

know this sound effect to the point that I have

it memorized. Anytime I hear it, I know exactly

what it is. It's Cheetor's gun sound, damn it.

Yep. Yeah. Good call. And, you know, again, I'm

sick of the colloquialisms that they're using

in this show. Who can read Bulkhead's pen bot

ship? Oh, God, shut the fuck up. Seriously. That's

the stupidest thing I've ever heard. That's one

of the major things I have to agree with Kevin

on is all of these stupid words. Like, I can

understand, like, If they would have used something

like Otto Botley, like what Mr. Wilson came up

with, I could understand that. I would like that.

But these other asinine things that keep popping

up in the show, I have to agree with Kevin. think

they're retarded. I mean, I'm to the point where

I agree with Kevin. Because, you know, at first,

when I first saw the series, I was, as we've

said before, I was just watching it to watch

it. I wasn't watching it to analyze it at that

point. But now it's like... It's downright annoying.

Yeah. Well, I know that they're going for their

own culture, they're going for this, they're

going for that, whatever else, but still, it's

like, Jesus freaking Christ. Who was it that

was complaining about Battlestar Galactica and

their... overuse of the word frack frag that's

kevin okay well all right yeah i get it now i

i said something on twitter the other day about

was it about utah i don't know something that

pissed me off um what was it christ now i don't

even remember but i used the word frag He replied

to me on Twitter and said, you use that one more

time, I will never speak to you ever again. It's

like he will end a friendship over someone using

the word frag. Well, fraggity, frag, frag, frag.

Frag is a different term. Frag is a first -person

shooter term used to describe a kill. Frack is

a colonial for fuck. No, no, no. It's got a K.

I didn't use frack. I used frag. Yeah, see, frag

is a different word. Let me pull it. I'm actually

going back through my Twitter feed at this very

moment, and where is it? Come on. See, frag is

more of a word that Masterson would use. Yeah.

As in, frag you noobs. I'm going to frag all

you noobs. That makes it sound like he's going

to frag them dirty. Yeah, see, now you wouldn't

want to say, I'm going to frag you noobs, because

that would involve, you know, hinky. Going Zons

with no pants. Yes. God, come on, where is it?

All right, so I'll find that in a second. Never

mind, yeah. Yeah, I'll find that in a second.

Sue Blue was Flare Up. That's awesome. Uh -huh.

Oh, that was Flare Up? Yep. So I was thinking

that was Flame War. No, that's Flare Up. Ah,

damn it. Flame War is completely different. Flame

War is black and red. Oh, God. We do not want

to get into a Flame War is this or Flame War

is that debate, because holy hell, Nitro Streak

will come down on us with the fury of a woman

scorned. She loves that character. But no, that

was Flare Up, not Flame War. You're absolutely

right, because I own a Flare Up, but I don't

own a Flame War. I should have known. Sentinel

needs to die. I'm TF2 and Mike, and I approve

this bullet point. I like how he's running a

red scare. Yeah, exactly. Join the communist

side. You expect him to say, better red than

dead. It's just right in the middle. It's all

fear -mongering propaganda. I'm the polar opposite

of a Decepticon, but I endorse their methods.

Tracks. I love Tracks. That's awesome. Yeah.

That was cool. All the homages are so cool. They

didn't bring Paul Eiding in for that, did they?

For Tracks? I don't think so. Paul wasn't Tracks.

That was Michael McConaughey. Oh, damn it. You're

right. That originally voiced him, but I don't

think that was him. Probably not. I was just

throwing out their flagrant disuse of original

voice actors. Yeah, well... Let's see. Starscream's

head is awesome, even more than when it was attached

to his body. Yeah. Fort Max set up a perimeter

around the Metroplex. Now, I don't even... I

remember seeing Metroplex earlier when you mentioned

that Ultra Magnus lives in Metroplex, but it

wasn't until... It wasn't until this episode

when Sentinel says that, set up a perimeter around

the Metroplex, that I really got that they put

the reference in there. And I know Michael will

say that, you know, if Fort Max actually fully

transformed, he wouldn't want a toy. Yeah. That

toy would never pass the drop test. No, not at

all. And, you know, they didn't even show all

of Fort Max. They just kind of showed the central

tower and then the big gun coming out of it.

Yep. I mean, it would have been really awesome

to see the front of it kind of like they had

shown Metroplex in city mode. Trax in Animated

is voiced by Townsend Coleman. Oh! Yeah, I mean...

The blue blood voice probably isn't all that

hard to do for a seasoned voice actor. Yes. I

wouldn't expect to bring McConaughey back. Yeah,

it would have been. But, I mean, for what we

got, I mean, for that, like, one line, ooh, it's

organic. You know, for that one line. What was

that? I don't know. That was nice. Party on,

dude. That's his drunk voice. Shut up. For that

one line, it wasn't that bad. And Sentinel with

this whole, we must attack now, we must secure

our position, blah, blah, blah, blah. He's a

fucking dumbass. The name's Dumas. Dumbass. Would

you prefer if the Autobots chose a more inward

-facing... stance and kind of eschew all contact

with the outside world. First of all, the entire

series, since season two, since, well, honestly,

even though we didn't really meet Sentinel until

season two, episode one, very first episode,

when we see him on the Viz screen, when... Optimus

shows him the cargo hold visual. He's like, oh,

I'll get Ultra Magnus now. Sentinel has always

been the character we love to hate, and I know

that's why they created him. I'm thankful they

did it to him rather than doing it to Rodimus.

But it's like, the dude isn't listening. Optimus

has told him several times at that point that

if they attack Omega Supreme, the transwarp energy

that he's overabsorbed... Like a sponge. It'll

explode. The planet will blow up. Hell, the entire

galaxy could blow up. That's kind of like Spongebob

blowing up or Patrick losing a leg or something

like that. I don't know. What is that up in the

sky? It's a huge Macy's Day float. What are you

doing up there, Grandpa? It's Omega Supreme.

Oh, yeah. I didn't even... Yeah, you're right.

Macy's Day Parade float, Omega Supreme. That's

what I first thought. It's just this floating

thing up in the air. What the hell is that? That

would be awesome. That would be awesome, actually.

Right next to Snoopy. Yeah. Omega Supreme meets

Snoopy. Rattrap. I mean, Rattletrap. Rattletrap.

There's one in every town. Yes, yes there is.

And it's, you know, the plot line about the human

being on the robotic planet, planet, what the

fuck was that? Planet. Planet, planet, Janet.

Shut up. The planet and the robots fearing him,

that's just another way that they used the snot

and the booger and the spit. You know, I mean,

you know. Yeah. He's got this huge loogie that

just kind of dangles. They never actually. I

don't know if this is something that's like taboo

in the cartoon world or something that you're

not supposed to show little kids. But it's like

you got the idea that there was this huge loogie

hanging off of his face, but they didn't show

it. They didn't show him spit it out and they

didn't show him suck it back up. Oh, no, they

showed him sucking it back up. They just didn't

show it sucking back into his face because in

that scene... Well, they showed it go back up,

and then when they showed his face, it was gone

already. You're right. Yeah, I mean, for all

they know, he could have been dangling a dirty

string. That's a big threat. Oh, he's a nasty

piece of string or something. I mean, it could

have been a little tiny ball sack. I'm going

to teabag you, Rattletrap. I mean, it could have

been anything. Exactly. It could have been anything,

but I mean, I don't know what... The problem

was, was showing him actually, you know, spit

out a loogie and then suck it back up into his

mouth. But it seems as if they weren't supposed

to show that for some reason. It was in the script,

but we can't show it. Okay, like, I know they

do all kinds of different things in animated,

but seriously, how the fuck is Ratchet's windshield

a TV screen? I was going to write that down,

too. I thought, you know, that's just too dumb.

So that's how the Autobots watch porn. They got

a big screen TV back at the plant. Why would

they need to watch it on each other's chest?

If they're on the go. I suppose. Portable porn.

That's what cell phones are for. That's so Bumblebee

can... You said it, not me. That's so Bumblebee

can play video games on the go with Sari. What?

You have porn on your... Kidding. Yes. That's

not my phone. I shared it. Stop getting serious.

What? You have Ford on your phone? Stop getting

serious. Serious? Like the radio. No, no, no,

no. Not, not, not, no. Serious, as in Siri. Oh,

oh. That would require one to have a smartphone

to understand the joke. Here's the joke. Here's

Michael Wilson's head. Meow. Exactly. It's like,

I have a 4S, and I use Siri all the time, and

it didn't occur to me. It's like, Siri, could

you pull up my porn stash for me? Accessor. Certainly.

Sentinel, online. Download it. Oh, God. I still

want a sorry version of Siri. This sounds like

Tara Strong. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, I'd be

like... Would you like this stuff on the right

side or the left side? It's like, sorry, who's

your daddy? You are! Now can we get back to business?

Yes, we can. I absolutely love... That Jazz has

pretty much defended. He's still a lead guard.

He'll still follow Ultra Magnus, but as far as

Sentinel goes, he doesn't give a shit. He wants

to be a part of Optimus' crew. He's a traitor?

Take him away. God, fuck Sentinel Prime. Off

with his head. Yeah, ain't that the truth. Sentinel

Prime is the queen of hearts. But no, I really...

Like Jazz, just like Kevin does, and I wish we

had more with him. This is one of the many reasons

why I wish we got a Season 4, because supposedly

Jazz was supposed to stay on Earth with Optimus'

crew, and I just love Jazz in this series. Yeah,

because they killed Prowl, so that replaced him

with a much cooler... There's a spot on the team.

Yeah, well, they had to fill the quota, so they

put the much cooler character. Yes. See, what

would have been cool is season four, Prime becomes

Magnus and has to go to Cybertron. Jazz comes

to Earth and becomes Jazz Prime. No, that wouldn't

happen. They'd put Sentinel down there. He's

already a Prime. Come here, you little bitch.

You're my second in command now. Prime would

lock him up. That's right. Put him right in jail.

And he'd be like, who's your daddy? I am, bitch.

Who's your Magnus? Who's your Magnus? You'll

get that joke if you check the art for the episode.

That's funny. Robot Dame in a room. Explains

everything. Yeah, I know, right? All your answers

will be answered in this room. Makes no sense.

No, it doesn't make any sense. All your answers

will be answered. Yes. All your questions will

be questioned. Yes, exactly. When Ratchet and

Shockwave started fighting and they ended up

in Ultra Magnus' hospital room, I was hoping

and half expecting Ultra Magnus to wake up and

fight Shockwave. When I first saw this episode

on TV, I was like, okay, cool, Ultra Magnus is

there. Wait, he doesn't wake, he's just lying

there lifeless? What the hell? He's dead, Jim.

He's not quite dead, he's just out for the count.

Yeah, and, uh, oh noes, he got RC! I like in

the end that she's awake, and she remembers Ratchet.

Yep. She's looking at Earth and going, Well,

because now we don't get to this until later,

until endgame, but she still has her memory.

I mean, she still has bits and pieces. It hasn't

been tampered with yet to the point where, Hello,

young bots. I am teaching unit 6785 -8309 -RC.

RC. You know. 675. Yeah. 867 -5309 -RC. I knew

that was coming. And then, again, back when the

episode first aired on TV, I kid you guys not,

at the end of this episode, I fell out of bed

when I saw the true colors finally happen. Purple

shockwave. And Mike pissed himself, and the world

rejoiced. Fuck you. No, thank you. I've had better

offers. Okay, so what do you have for This Is

Why I Hate Machines, Steve? This is why I hate

machines. There, the title. There you go. I liked

all the nice references to all the previous generation

of Transformers, whether it be history, locations,

brief views of Autobots that either A, never

got real time or at any time, and still didn't

this time, but they just got a, you know. brief

one -liner or something uh enough to appease

fans uh the rat trap the rattle trap that's just

kind of piss poor hit at rat trap i mean i i

see that they tried they tried but they failed

epically they should have just stuck with the

one scene again for the one scene you know that

he was in it wasn't like Energon bad. Yeah, it

is. Yeah, it was pretty bad. Yeah, they honestly

should have just stopped while they were ahead.

I wish they would have gotten Scott McNeil just

like you guys do. And again, I don't get why

they... I know certain productions only have

a certain amount of budget and a certain amount

of things to go after certain voice actors, but...

They just gave the voice to Tom Kenny. Now, don't

get me wrong. I love Tom Kenny. He's an awesome

voice actor. But... That's what they did with

all of McNeil's stuff, though. We need someone

to do that New York accent. Tom? Yeah. Yeah,

so I would have preferred to have seen McNeil

reprise his roles. But, you know, alas, that

didn't happen. It's too bad that they didn't

see Scott McNeil as a celebrity voice in the

same way that they saw Fred Willard or Weird

Al. Yeah. I know. He's, like, awesome. Well,

I mean, and again, as I've said before in the

podcast, it could have been that maybe he was

busy, maybe he denounced Transformers after Beast

Wars. No, not this guy. No, he didn't. Are you

shitting me? McNeil was in... Beast Machines,

he was in Armada, he was in Energon, he was in

Cybertron. Okay. They just didn't ask him back

for animated. Yeah. Well, the guy has been pretty

busy, though. Looking at his credits on IMDb,

Dead Rising 2, Care Bears, Max Steel vs. Toxic

Legion, Sanctuary, Warhammer 40 ,000. Dawn of

War 2, My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. He's

uncredited, but he's in it. Johnny Test as Mr.

White. His latest thing is Hiccups, whatever

the hell that is. No idea. But the thing is,

though, this is a small part. This is maybe half

an hour worth of taping that he could do in his

home studio or wherever he is, and then they

would just send the MP3 file over to whoever.

Even in 2008, this was doable. Eh, you're right.

It was just shenanigans and complete bullshit

that they didn't have him do it. Yeah, I mean,

it's one thing to say, hey, you know what would

be really cool is let's have a Rat Trap cameo.

We can't call him Rat Trap, but it's Rat Trap.

And not make an attempt to complete the pass,

if you will. Well, the Rattletrap name is...

It's the Japanese version of Rattrap, I know.

Right. What was the other reference? You said

two. Well, Rattrap in Beast Wars. Well, there's

also, I believe, another G1 or G2 character called

Rattletrap 2. Really? I think. I'm not 100%,

so don't quote me on it, but I want to say that

there is. Rattletrap was among the crowd welcoming.

Rattletrap apparently gave it to Omega Supreme.

Rattletrap's name was not spoken in the episode

in which he appeared. It was listed in the end

credits. Rattletrap is an homage to Rattrap from

Beast Wars, specifically his Dawn of Futures

past Cybertronian form. However, he is much more

willing to work with the enemy than the original

was. Well, most of the time. Comes off as a...

Portman, too, of Rattrap's American name and

his Japanese name. Well, his Japanese name was,

I believe, Rattletrap. Yes. Oh, no, I'm sorry.

It was Rattle. It was Rattle. Duh. Rattle and

Rattrap. Yeah, okay. I mean, I don't mind it.

You know, it's a cool... All of the cameos in

this series are cool. I don't have an issue with

any of the cameos that they've ever done. Did

you spot Powerglide in this one? No, thank God.

Okay, I take it back. That's one cameo I have

an issue with. Powerglide? I hate Powerglide.

Seriously? His appearance looks even better in

animated. Who? Powerglide. Well, you kind of

saw him from the side view. Well, there's a front

picture of him on wiki. Oh, okay, yeah. In the

crowd scene, he was sideways, and the way his

wings fold up and form his shoulders, he has

like these huge surfboards on either side of

his head. It's kind of weird looking. But it's

like Optimal Optimus. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I'll

buy that. I'll buy that for a dollar. It's like

on top of his shoulders and not on the side of

his head. Yeah. They're farther out, you know,

kind of like wings as opposed to... Surfboard

shoulders. Overall, it wasn't a bad episode.

I mean, there were plenty of nice moments in

it and homages and opportunities to hate Sentinel

even more. Right. But, you know, it's pretty

much just a lead up to the last two episodes.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, but the question becomes, where

is everybody? I mean, in the beginning, you've

got Ratchet babysitting the space bridge. They

say, well, Bulkhead's gone, but they don't say

where he is. He's busy pantsing the Constructicons.

Maybe they're all back at the plant getting drunk

off oil. Okay, that's entirely possible. I don't

know. And, I mean, you didn't really need the

rest of the team. This was a Ratchet fan zone

jazz. team up that you you know yeah you know

they're on cybertron obviously you're going to

have the cybertronian characters whether they

be the cameos whether it be sentinel or or the

elite guard or or the council or you know whatever

so i mean you didn't really need the rest of

what the hell could they have done and and and

i think a cutaway gag to say oh you know meanwhile

back on earth Bumblebee's playing Snake Eyes

versus Torque 3 and Bulkhead's off squeaking

like a baby toy and Prowl's off getting in touch

with his processor over matter. I think if you

had a cutaway scene of that, kind of like what

we mentioned in the Season 1 finale about the

Dinobots, about them going to Dinobot Island.

It was a useless scene, and I'm glad that they

didn't have any useless scenes in this episode.

I agree to a certain extent. It's just kind of

strange that there's no Prime, there's no Bulkhead,

there's no Bumblebee. Everyone's just kind of

out taking a hike. Maybe the voice actors just

kind of said, screw it, we're going to Vegas.

There you go. What else for This Is Why I Hate

Machines? Anything, Michael? I liked at the end

how you got Megatron kind of, purposefully goading

Lugnut. Oh, yeah. Shockwave turns purple, and

Megatron says, I'm my most loyal servant. And

Lugnut about drops a brick. Oh, he drops a brick

in the next episode. Oh, yeah. No, this is just

the beginning of the rivalry. Yes. But the question

becomes, did Megatron do this on purpose, knowing

what was going to happen later on in the next

two episodes? Well, this Megatron, for the most

part, the entire series, he's always had a purpose

and a plan behind his actions, so I would say

so, yes. Yeah, I mean, they don't actually come

out and say it. No. He doesn't come out and say,

yeah, I gotta get these two wild with each other,

so that just at the right moment, the big dumb

one will, uh, I don't want to give anything away,

but, you know, the things will work out exactly

how I plan. Yep. And then there's a small scene

where Ratchet flies. Does he? Well, he kind of

gets knocked down by Shockwave in that fight

scene. And Shockwave runs away. And then you've

got Ratchet. He's been knocked into, like, a

pit or whatever. And Fanzer goes, are you okay?

And he starts levitating. Oh, no, he's not flying.

He's using his magnets. To lift himself. Yeah,

but that's not flying. He doesn't have a jetpack.

He doesn't have the Magnus hammer. I swear to

God, anyone can fly with the Magnus hammer. You

will believe a Ratchet can fly. That was just

about the same time where he says, I'm getting

too old for this shit. You know. Which, I mean,

a lot of good lines out of Ratchet on this episode.

It's a good Ratchet episode. But, again, he's

the only one in the episode. So, it's kind of

hard not to. Yeah. I mean, you have to throw

all the good lines to either Ratchet or Fanzone.

I like Fanzone's line, this is why I hate machines,

some more than others. I still think we need

to go back and pull out all the clips from where

Fanzone says, this is why I hate machines. That

would take forever. In retrospect, it's probably

about 20. Yeah. It's too bad there's not a site

out there that has all of the scripts written

down so you can just do a search for hate machines,

find all the instances, and then go back and

grab them. To my knowledge, no one's done that

before. Nope. Anything else for this is why we

hate machines? Meh. Meh. All right, we are moving

on. We need those codes to control Omega Supreme.

And if any bot can access them, it is you, my

ever -loyal shockwave. Uh -oh. Looks like Megatron

has a new favorite. And I'll give you a hint.

It ain't you. Why not me, Master? Have I not

served you loyally? That's a very good question,

young bot. Only the Allspark knows for sure.

Are you a fawning at Megatron's feet? I risked

Spark and Servo as a double agent on Cybertron.

Cybertron is our home planet. We must protect

it from the growing Decepticon menace. Can't

you shut her up? She makes Blitzwing sound like

he's got his head screwed on straight. And finally,

we come to the end of Transformers Animated with

the Endgame two -parter. In Part 1, the Autobots

discover Omega Supreme's energy signal on the

moon. Ratchet insists on going there right away

to save him, but Prime refuses, knowing that

they are too weak to fight Megatron. Ratchet,

Sari, and Professor Sumdak build flight boosters

for Optimus to even the chances. My first note,

because I was all over the place, really, on

this one, and I don't even have that many notes.

I mean, this episode was so great, I just don't

have... I just started watching it for enjoyment.

A bunch of backstories. I mean, we get Prowl's

backstory, we get Optimus' backstory, we get

slightly more of Arcee and Ratchet's backstory

a little bit, but it's finally nice to see why

Optimus washed out, and it was because of that

whole organic planet ordeal. Planet, shmanet,

janet. Shut up. I mean, I agree. I liked that

they actually went back. And you know that this

happened. You know that that's why Sentinel has

been pissed at Prime all these years. You know

that that's how Blackarachnia became Blackarachnia,

or I should say how Alita 1 became Blackarachnia.

And that incident has had these far -reaching

consequences throughout the whole series. And

now at the end, you finally find out, well, that

is... how he ended up washing out. I mean, he

was lucky he even got to be a Prime. Yeah. Yeah,

but there's a lot of other flashback scenes here

that they basically showed how the entire team

came together, how each of them met each other.

Yep. And it was just enjoyable. It's kind of

sad that they... Actually, I was about to say,

is that the second episode that happens in, or

is it this episode? What? No, I think it's this

one. Yeah, it was this episode where they show

how everybody met. Yeah. And it was just, yeah,

I liked that. I thought that was, it was sad

that they had to kind of shoehorn this in at

the end rather than give an entire episode to

it later on. Right, yeah. And I like how they,

and we kind of get an answer to where Prowl was.

I mean, he was. I would assume after failing

to protect the protoforms. That's right. He failed

to protect the protoforms, and then he went on

his vision quest. But that still doesn't make

any sense, though. Because if he failed... He

specifically says in this episode, I failed to

protect the protoforms, and now I'm here with

a bunch of maintenance bots. And he doesn't seem

like the Prowl that we see in the first season.

Because, I don't know, somehow it's in between

the time he failed to protect the protoforms

to the time that Yokitron died. So I'm not sure

exactly where Prowl's story fits in here. No,

I think Prowl, you know, when he first met Yokitron,

he was this young, he was almost like a bumblebee

character. Yeah. And then he kind of shaped up,

but he was still, you know, I don't want to say

snobby, but kind of full of himself, like, well,

I'm a cyber ninja and you're shit, you know?

And that's pretty much how he started off in

the first season. Well, I clearly know better

than you do because, hey, I'm a Cyber Ninja.

And over the course of, I wouldn't say season

one, but over the course of definitely season

two, he kind of matures. Right. And you find

that it's not the parts that make the bots, it's

the bots that make the parts. And he learns these

lessons until finally he reaches that point where,

He's a team player, and, well, I don't want to

give too much away, but he comes full circle

from where you first met him. No, he does, but

the problem I have with this flashback is this

is from pretty much the same scene with them

on the rocks in Transform and Rollout. This is

a scene that we had never seen, though, before,

because... In the premiere episode, Optimus is

like, where's Prowl? And he just shows up out

of nowhere, basically saying that this scene

that happened now had already happened, they

just didn't show it to us. Well, right. I mean,

this is where they met. They had already met

and been together, I'm assuming for a while,

not a long while, but for a while, in the first

season. Yeah. And, you know, you kind of got

the impression that... Prowl wasn't really a

part of this team. Yeah. Just by the way he was

acting. Well, the whole team kind of acted as

if they weren't really a part of that team. They're

like, well, Prime's the leader, but we really

can't work together very well at all. And it

took them a while to work as a team. I mean,

that was kind of season one shaping up. And they

were just lucky that they were able to hone their

skills against human villains as opposed to...

You know, other Cybertronians or Decepticons.

But no, I think that this flashback, again, it's

the first time they met Prowl. Probably within

a few years of the first episode. But, you know,

he fails to protect the protoforms. He leaves

Cybertron to continue his vision quest. Because,

you know, clearly he didn't... you know, finish

the vision quest. He went back to Yoko trying

to tell him he had failed. Right, yeah. So what

else has he got to do? Well, I guess I'll just,

you know, continue. Thank God Sentinel isn't

in this episode. Isn't that surprising? Thank

God. Well, you know, we got the other characters

back in, so we got to shove some out. No Prowl,

no Jazz, no Sentinel. Well, Jazz, well, no, Jazz,

well, yeah, no, Jazz was in it. I mean, they

were in it in Optimus' flashback, but they weren't,

like, in it in the current timeline of Sentinel

being the complete and utter fucking douchebag

that he is. And then, you know, Starscream has

expectations that are abruptly shattered. Along

with his crotch. Yeah, along with his entire

freaking body. It looked like, well, you know,

his upper torso was intact. It was just his legs

that were blown off. So I'm thinking, he shot

him right in the dick. It blew his legs clean

off. If you're going to shoot somebody, you know,

and you're really pissed at them, I suppose that's

where you'd do it. Yeah. And, of course, because

I guess I'm the only one that remembers this,

and I don't think I've ever even read this piece

of Transformers literature. I think it was just

a poster, actually. I always make the Shattered

Expectations reference when I can, in reference

to the BotCon 2008 teaser for Shattered Glass

with Shattered Expectations. Oh. Yeah. No matter

what people expected out of that, everybody ended

up happy. Oh, yeah. Exactly. Lugnut Supreme.

What the fuck? We need a Supreme Class Omega

Lugnut toy. No, we don't. Because then they would

have to give you your Omega Supreme toy. That's

where they start. They start with a Supreme Class

Omega Supreme, and then they follow it up with

a purple repaint. Right? With the stripes around

his arms. They don't necessarily have to give

him a new head. Just, you know, paint a lug nut

face on there. Or paint a Starscream face on

there. Or a Megatron face. Or a Prowl face. Or

wait, let's make it a triple changer face where

it rolls around like Blitzwing. Speaking of Blitzwing,

where the fuck is Blitzwing? They mentioned him

here briefly, didn't they? They mentioned him.

Well, I mean, Megatron says, can't you shut her

up? Blitzwing sounds like he's got his head screwed

on straight compared to her. But that's what

I'm saying. In all this time, and I know you

have to go with your main characters, obviously

Lugnut, Shockwave. Shockwave almost took the

place of Blitzwing, which I'd rather have Blitzwing

and Shockwave rather than Lugnut. I mean, they

don't really explain where the fuck he is. I

mean, is he offline somewhere? Is he with the

Constructicons guzzling down oil? I mean, where

is he? I don't know. And my final note was just

something that Ratchet said. Yeah. Didn't he

get captured? Oh, that's right. He's in the stop.

No, wait, they escaped. No, I think one of them

escaped. Lugna ended up bumping into Omega Supreme.

Yeah, that's because of the transwarp. Yeah,

but I think Blitzwing might have been captured.

Right, but I wasn't sure, because I know he got

free last episode. In the Superman Freezing Chamber

episode, they were free. But I think he might

have gotten recaptured. So yeah, that's where

he is. He's sitting in jail. Yeah, along with...

The sycophant and the... Yeah, Swindle and...

Well, no, Swindle got away. Oh, yeah, that's

right. I don't remember. This was only a week

ago. Oh, damn it. I was happy to see Swindle

get away. I was like, woo -hoo, you know? And

then Lugnut got away, but he ran into Megatron.

But it was the liar and the suck -up. Oh, that's

right. Yeah. Yeah, so along with Blitzwing. So

that's where they are. It still doesn't explain,

I want to say, it still doesn't explain where

Bulkhead was in the last episode, but he's back

in this episode. Yeah. And then my final note

was, like I said, just something Ratchet said,

yeah, definitely going to need that hammer. It's

hammer time. Hammer. How you doing? Hammer, hammer,

hammer. Steve, what did you have for part one

of Endgame? Hmm, part one. Stop. Hammer time.

I like the fact that Prime gets his almost...

I'm trying to think of that Autobot's name. Wingblade?

Yeah, he gets that feature added on to him. Wingblade

and Mr. Prime? Yes, Wingblade Prime. I like in

the beginning, Ratchet looks like he's building

a G1 Jetfire backpack. Yeah. It looks like G1

Jetfire's rocket boosters. It's very Bandai.

Oh, yeah. But, yeah, I like that feature. I like

the fact that Starscream gets shattered. Yeah.

You still can't die yet, though. No. No, no,

hold on. We'll save that for later. You see Starscream

crawling on the ground going, I have plans! I

like the fact that Optimus finally has to grab

the Magnus Hammer. But you don't know what he's

going to do with it. And then you've got giant

versions of Lugnut. Omega Lugnut. Lugnut Supreme.

Omega nut. Unlock the omega nut. Wow. My only,

I think it's this episode, my only real complaint,

and I'm just thinking of this as Steve's going

along here, but only real complaint is there

isn't a good quality version. Anywhere, even

in the original TV airing, because of the jetpack

sound, there isn't a good quality version of,

Excellent! Yes! Because they specifically asked

David to do that as Optimus. Yeah, in his first

flight. Yeah. He's channeling his inner Megatron.

His inner Megatron, yes. Too bad he didn't go,

Excellent! Yes! I mean, excellent. Yes. Well,

it had to be an Optimus' voice because it's Optimus.

It's not Megatron. But he could have done Megatron

to begin with and then went, you know, like I

said, oh, wait, I mean, excellent. Yes. Who said

that? It was me, Joe Convoy. Oh, God. Joe Convoy.

I'll be back. Yes. Yes. What else for part one,

Steve? I will kill you. I think that's pretty

much it. I like the episode overall. I just...

I wish there would have been another season to

see how far they would have actually taken this.

Oh, yeah. Right. Michael, what about you? I like

in the beginning how Lugnut and Shockwave are

arguing over who's the better minion. Yeah. And

he has Starscream. He's kind of egging them on.

It's like, are you going to take that shit from

him? Oh, no, he didn't. He's just ahead. Yeah.

He's ahead of his time. Can you imagine if we

had Transformers animated versions of... Gru's

minions. Banana! Butt! The minions from Despicable

Me. Oh, yeah! That would be so awesome. Except

those should have been Lugnuts. They kind of

look animated already. Yeah. Anyway. They should

have been the Lugnut Supremes. That would be

awesome. They would have just poked the Autobots

or sat on them and went, Oh! God, that was creepy.

Yeah. All right. What else, Michael? Channeling

his inner minion. I know you mentioned this earlier

amongst ourselves, but one of the coolest scenes

here is Starscream is trying to get Megatron

to tell him what the plan is for the protoforms,

seeing as though he already destroyed all of

his other clones, or Starscream clones. And he

says, well, are you going to clone yourself?

And he goes, bigger and he says you're not gonna

clone you know lug nut out there and he's like

bigger and lug nut falls over and shockwave actually

laughs at him which i thought was funny because

it's shocking you know you know by all by all

means should not have a sense of humor but he's

like so he says uh bigger he's like well what

are you talking about he looks over at omega

supreme and he's like oh yeah And at this point,

he's already got, you know, giant purple Omega

Supreme skeletons built on either side of him.

Yep. In the background, so if you look, you can

see it. And it's like, well, you know, I realize

you're short, you know, but can't you see out

the window and what's going on here? Do you smell

what the Megs is cooking? Oh, God. Sorry about

that. Wow. Bigger. That's funny. Or bigger. I

can't really do a Megatron. I don't do voices.

As I predicted, the processor over matter has

become the new sorry's key. Yes. It's like, well,

I really don't know how we're going to manage

this. Well, I know. We'll do processor over matter.

And it's funny because you've got Prowl, you

know, kind of in his lotus position, you know,

meditating. And it's like, They all spark. It's

in the tree, the rock. It flows around us and

binds us together. You're all supposed to applaud

my Star Wars reference there. Come on, guys.

No. No. Oh, sorry. Let it flow, Prowl. Anyway,

I don't want to get too far ahead of myself,

but eventually you get jazzed in on it, too,

and they're both doing the process of horror

over matter. Prime's first flight reminds me

of that scene in Iron Man. Oh, yeah. Yeah, where

he's trying to figure out how to fly and messing

up horribly and landing on his Ferrari. Prime

totally should have landed on a Ferrari. On the

other hand, they did show Slipstream. Yes. Just

for a moment. Just long enough for her to go,

what the hell? See ya! But it was nice to see

her again. She's still out and about. But that's

pretty much all I got for part one. I was going

to say, now that we're starting to talk about

people that we're missing, in part two, Megatron

lands on what's left of Dinobot Island, and yet

we never see the Dinobots. And I'm assuming Black

Arachne is still there, too. Yeah, I'm assuming

she is as well. That's what kind of pisses me

off about this final episode. We see Megatron

landing there on Dinobot Island with the Lugnut

Supreme clones. Crescent Moon Island now. Yeah,

exactly. Oh, no, I'm wrong. A goodly chunk of

that island was teleported away with Blackarachnia

on it. Right. And we don't know where she is.

Right. It's possible the Dinobots are on that,

too. Yeah, well, maybe the Dinobots went to the

Beast Wars, too. Maybe the Dinobots are on some

other part of the Crescent. but they didn't show

up. It would have been nice to see them. I'm

assuming that they're still on Dinobot Island,

but my biggest problem with this part one is,

and really it's the biggest problem for the entire

series is, they give the Dinobots complete and

utter shit. There's no character development

for them. They show up, Grimlock specifically,

shows up for like five seconds every three or

four episodes, and that's it. I mean, the only

fun part with Grimlock was when Blackarachnia

forced him to team up with Optimus. That was

the only real fun part with Grimlock. Other than

that, they're basically throwaway characters

here. I mean, granted, I know Simon Furman wasn't

throwing around his Grimlock dick in this series,

but still, it's like, you know... I mean, do

something with him. I complain about them not

showing up. Here, in particular, because, hey,

we're trying to wrap up all the loose ends. I

mean, it was the same thing in the last season

finale where it was like, where are they? They

showed up in the first season finale to no effect.

The second one, they glossed over them. The third

one, they glossed over them. But here, it's more

important because we're not coming back. There's

not going to be another chance to see them again.

So it's like, not knowing that ahead of time,

sure, maybe it was easy to gloss over them. Here,

it's like, you know, it would have been nice

for Megatron to land on the island and Grimlock

to stick his head up and go, get off my island!

And Megatron shoot him a look and he'll be like,

okay, I'm sorry. You know, he kind of wandered

back into the woods. It would have been worthless,

but it would have been nice seeing as though

this is the end of the series. Yes. Yeah, I don't

know. It's just one of those things where it's

like, what the hell? Well, it's sad that it's

all coming to an end anyway. And with that, let's

move on to the last episode. Yeah, Endgame Part

2. The three Lugnut Supremes touch down on Earth

and launch a full -scale assault on Detroit.

While Optimus Prime and Prowl fight the Lugnut

Supremes and take one down, Ratchet, Bulkhead,

Bumblebee, and Sari head to the moon to rescue

Arcee and reactivate Omega Supreme. Starscream

then takes over the remaining two Supreme clones

and initiates their self -destruction. Prowl

begins to gather the Allspark Fragments to block

the explosion, including Starscream's Fragment,

killing Starscream for good. Failing to gather

enough, Prowl sacrifices his spark and makes

an all -spark force field that surrounds the

last self -destructing Starscream Supreme. Megatron

attacks one last time, but is defeated and arrested

by Optimus. The Autobots have won, captured Megatron,

Shockwave, Lugnut, and returned to Cybertron

with Prowl's body and several rescued protoforms

that Master Yokotron died protecting. Again,

so much action in this. It's so awesome. The

shockwave battle was great. The reason why it

was great was because it's shockwave kicking

the Autobots' afts. I mean, it really is. Bumblebee

and Bulkhead are like, oh, we'll handle shockwave.

You fucknuts, you can't handle anything. You

can't handle a pepperoni pizza. That's right.

Did somebody order extra sausage? Wow. That's

how they like it. Yeah. The Clone Supreme battle

I really liked. We finally get... I mean, we

kind of got it in Transform and Rollout on a

board, Omega Supreme, but we finally get an open

-world battle with Optimus and Megatron. And,

of course, my name is Optimus Prime! So you can

remember my name. Yeah, so you can remember my

name. Sorry. Okay, sorry. She goes from the key

holder. She goes from being the key master. Where's

the gatekeeper when you really need it? But she

goes from that to being a Cybertronian telepath.

What the fuck? I think I like this better. I

mean, I think after a while you get sick of the

key coming to the rescue every episode. And here

it's just, you know, it's not so much coming

to the rescue. That's the process or matter.

But here she's just finding a use for herself.

Because otherwise she kind of lacks a use. Otherwise

she's useless. RC gets her memory back, so yay

for that. Processor overmatter to reconstitute

the AllSpark. Seriously? I love Jazz. I love

Jazz as a ninja bot, but this is the dumbest

thing in the world. It just is. Should they have

killed Jazz? No. No? Okay, what I don't understand

is that we're gathering up all of the AllSpark

fighters on the planet. using the processor over

matter, but they're skipping the three biggest

chunks. Where are they? They're in the lug nut.

Oh, that's right. They're in the lug nut supreme,

yeah. Each one has a huge chunk of the AllSpark

in it. Now, they managed to rip the tiny little

fragment that was in Starscream, keeping him

alive. Yeah. But not... Not the larger pieces

that are in the Lugnut Supremes. And also, I

might add, not out of the... I want to say out

of the Dinobots and or Slipstream. I'd like to

assume that she's still floating around somewhere.

Yeah. Omega is back! That was awesome when they

finally got the codes back on him and he just

came in and kicked some ass. Yay, Lugnut lost

control! Oh, yeah. When Omega comes back. Yeah.

I was going to say the Omega versus Omega battle

in Detroit looks a lot like a Godzilla movie.

Oh, yeah. He's literally just picking him up.

Gojira! Yeah. He's picking him up and just throwing

him in the buildings, and it was really cool.

For those who like Godzilla. Gojira! Look, he's

Godzilla. No, it's a reasonable facsimile due

to copyright laws. We can't say Godzilla. I forget

what movie that's from. Starscream gets his spark

shard ripped right the fuck out of his head.

Yeah, I don't know. I think they killed a lot

of people in this episode. No, you didn't. Well,

maybe not a lot, but more than I would have expected.

I certainly wouldn't have expected Starscream

to die. That was pretty rough. Well, he certainly

doesn't have a mutant indestructible spark. Or

he's not a ghost. Yeah, not this time. Well,

it would have been cool if Starscream was a ghost.

There's a Prowl's ghost. Huh? There's Prowl's

ghost. Nuh -uh. Well, we might be getting ahead

of ourselves here, but in the end, Prowl sacrifices

himself. Right. And dies. Right. And I want to

say there is a force field around the final Lugnut

Club, at this point a Starscream Supreme. Right?

Right. And he's about to explode, and Prime and

Megatron are stuck inside that force field. So

when this thing blows, they've both had it, right?

Right. And suddenly, something appears behind

Prime. Oh, see, I wondered how the fuck he got

out of there. And teleports them both out. I

wondered how the fuck he got out of there. You

gotta look really closely, and it's like, is

that Prowl? Prowl's dead. It had to have been.

Yeah, because there's only one. Because I was

watching it earlier today, and I was like, wait,

what the fuck? Optimus doesn't have teleport

powers. Well, something rescued Prowl. Well,

no, he's got that, doesn't he? No, Prowl's got

that. Yeah. But Prowl's dead, so it's like the

ghost of Prowl. Yeah. I'd like to think there's

a ghost of Starscream out there, too. No, not

in this series. He's dead. He's deader than dead.

Ghost of Starscream would rule. But, you know,

he hits the ground, and my first thought was,

okay, he's no longer indestructible. He can die

now, but he's still alive, right? No. No, he's

dead. Grey is dead. Yeah. Grey is dead. Yeah,

I was... I don't know. He's dead for good, and

I kind of felt bad about that, but then we get

that little glimmer of hope with the Prowl's

ghost. And then, you know, Optimus raising the

hammer to strike the final blow, and of course

he misses by two inches. That would be the easy

way out, Megatron. You don't deserve it. There's

no transition from that scene to the next. I

mean, there isn't a fade. It's just a complete

hard jump cut. I was like, wow, really? And then

we get them and all the... the captives coming

off the ship, and what does Optimus have around

his neck? Lo and behold, the biggest MacGuffin

in Transformers history, the Matrix of Leadership.

The motherfucking Matrix. I didn't even notice

that. He had the Matrix, or was it just the...

You seriously did not notice that? You know,

I saw the huge hammer. I didn't see the Matrix

of Leadership. I'll have to go back and look.

Actually, no, you saw the picture. Yeah, well...

He sent us a picture, too. I'll have to go back

and look at the picture. Yeah, I can't believe

I missed that. Let me go back and peek. Here,

hold on. I got it. What do you got for this episode,

Steve? I love the fact that they actually kill

a bunch of people off. Yes, yes they do. Just

because I don't care for them anymore. It's a

kid's show, though. I'm really surprised that...

They've been killing people off in shows for

years. There it is. He does have the Matrix around

his neck. That is awesome. So not only does he

have the Magnus hammer, but he has the Matrix.

Can you imagine a season four? I'm really surprised

he doesn't just look right at Sentinel and say,

take it, motherfucker. I dare you. And we get

it. But he's got the... He's got Magnus right

by his bitch. He's got Megatron's what? He's

got Megatron right behind him, and he's kind

of tied to a gurney, almost. Well, yeah, he has

to be tied to a gurney, because he's got ropes

around his legs, too. Yeah, I'm surprised he

didn't have the Hannibal Lecter mask around his

face. That would have been the opposite. This

isn't Sentinel. That's true. All the other ones

had the Hannibal Lecter mask, yeah. Now, I think,

at the end, Well, first of all, huge epic ending.

It was awesome. Omega Supreme transforms and

the crowd goes nuts. That was cool. But give

us some closure. Prime should be able to keep

the hammer. We should have Optimus Magnus. Give

us two more seconds of footage. Have Sentinel

kneel in front of Prime and say, my leash, or

something. That will never happen. Give us that.

No. Steve, what else did you want to say about

this one? I'm glad it's the end. Stop. Are you

glad because it ended so well, or are you just

sick of it? Both. It's a good day to end the

series, right? It's a good day to die. Transformers.

You know, the other thing, I just now noticed

this looking at the image of them carrying Prowl's

Coffin and Megatron and Optimus with the Matrix

and the Hammer. Yeah. If you look over to the

bottom left, there's Sari floating in the background.

And it reminds me of the Transformers the movie

theatrical poster where you have Ultra Magnus

looking up at Unicron with his blaster. And in

the background, you have Galvatron coming in

with the Decepticons. You have Hot Rod and –

I don't know. It's one of those foreground -background

shots where it's like, hmm, I never noticed that

before. I didn't notice Lugnut back there, to

be honest. I was just wondering, who's got the

huge stasis cuffs? What are those? And no, it's

Lugnut back there. Yeah, it's Lugnut. This is

just an awesome picture. Yeah, it is. Yeah, this

is just epic. So awesome. So very, very awesome.

What else did you have? So are you done, Steve?

Do you not want to talk anymore? No, I don't.

I hate it at all. I hate it every second. No,

I didn't hate it. I hate awesome things and homages

and precedents. I like those aspects of the show.

I'm tired of Transformers animated, honestly.

I could settle for another season. If they were

to have done another season, I can't deny I would

like it. Just because... I hated it all, except

for that fourth season that never happened. No,

it would have been cool. There's a lot of potential

here. They left this season finale with you actually

wanting to see more. Oh, yeah. So I definitely

would have been stoked to see what they would

have done in season four, considering all the

Decepticons are captured and Prime has the Magnus

Hammer and the Matrix. The only thing that really

didn't... The only cons that really didn't get

captured is whoever else is left out there in

the galaxy outside of Team Char. I mean, Team

Char never got captured. Oh, they never mentioned

them. And I'd want to see Rodimus Prime or Rodimus

Major or whatever become Prime's second -in -command.

Yeah. Now, I will say that something that does

tie into this is this year's 2011 BotCon comic

because you have that scene with the... And again,

the protoform stasis pods are just scattered

all over the ground. But you have the scene with

Megatron, with Optimus, with the Matrix, Lugnut,

Shockwave. you know, Bulkhead and Jazz and Ratchet.

And then, of course, it goes into what the story

of the comic is. But at the end, oops, that's

the credits page. Where the hell is the last

page of this damn comic? At the end of this comic,

you have Team Char coming after Megatron, you

know, coming to release Megatron and the Stunicons

and all that. I mean, they did kind of continue

it in comic form. It would be great if it was

animated, you know, animation -wise. But overall,

I, you know, I guess I'm happy with what we have.

Yeah. I mean, everybody wanted a season four.

Everybody did. But it just didn't happen. And

I was like, fuck you, Hasbro. No, no, no, no.

It's more like, fuck you, Cartoon Network, and

your live -action bullshit. Well, you have to

understand, at the time, the sequel to the movie

was kicking in. Worst sequel ever. It was the

worst sequel ever, but it sold an assload of

toys and made an assload of money. Is that a

new measurement? An assload? It's the volume

of toys that you can fit into your ass, yes.

The volume of toys you can steal from Target.

There is a precedent here, and I know you all

hate precedents. There's a precedent here with

the first movie that came out. The first movie

made an assload of money and sold an assload

of toys. I mean, as much as I hated the movie

toys, they sold a lot of movie toys, and that

Christmas was just made for movie Transformer

toys. Then those kind of trickled away, and they

brought out the Transformers animated toys. Now,

that was all well and good up until the next

movie came out, in which case they said, okay,

we're having trouble selling some of these shelf

warmers to begin with. Let's get rid of this

whole line and introduce the Transformer toys

for the second movie. Yeah. Well, what was really

show -forming and what I really saw in, like,

even, like, bargain stores, not really bargain

stores, but, like, weird places, I would find

oil slicks in, like, Walgreens and stuff like

that. I was like, really? Wow. Why do they still

have animated oil slick? Exactly. Yeah. Why is

he still here? Well, because he wasn't in the

show. But if you try to find, like, a Skywarp,

good luck. You try to find a Rekar, good luck.

You know, I mean, well, even toward the end there,

like there was a whole snafu at Target where

they sold off those gift packs for five bucks

each. I must have bought like four of each because

they were supposed to be like 24, 25 bucks. And

for some reason, one weekend they were all on

sale for five. And I don't know. It just seemed

like the writing was on the wall that this. particular

line wasn't selling as well, definitely not as

well as the movie toys. And once the new movie

came out, that was it. No more series, no more

toys. And you couldn't find the ones that you

wanted. And I had a heck of a time finding a

Rekar. I had a heck of a time finding a Skywarp.

I had to go online to find a Skywarp. I think

I got mine from Entertainment Earth. You know,

and the movie toys again, metric ass load. Yeah.

So, I don't know. I mean, from a toy selling

point of view, which, again, is the name of the

game here, they're not selling DVDs, they're

selling toys. It would have, I hate to say it,

it would have made sense at the time to cancel

the series. Eh, still. What else do you have

for part two for Endgame? Who, me? Yes, you.

I got plenty. In the beginning... We ended up

with the lengthy extended transformation scene

for Bulkhead and Bumblebee. I already know how

to transform those toys, goddammit. You know,

I haven't seen these particular transformation

scenes because maybe they did show them way back

in season one. They did. Yeah, and it's like,

well, why are we seeing them again here? I mean,

is there not enough stuff going on that we need

two minutes of transformation? They probably

wanted to remind people how to transform the

toys. I'm not even sure if those toys were still

for sale. Honestly, at that point, I think you

could only find the white bumblebee activator.

If you were lucky, maybe one of those leader

class bulkheads sitting around with the headmaster

unit in the box. But no, it's like, wow, we haven't

seen these in a long time. And like you said,

at the end, they didn't even have any... between

the end battle and Cybertron, and there's no

bootlicking going on for Sentinel Prime. No,

there wouldn't be any bootlicking going on for

him. I mean, that would have been nice. If they

could have gotten rid of these, you know, maybe

two, possibly three minutes of transformation

scenes that we've already seen three seasons

ago. Maybe they could have included that stuff.

How hard is it to put in a fade -out to fade

-in, like fade -out to black, fade -in to black?

I mean, they do that all the time. Again, they

ran out of time. The editing room, they just

didn't have time for it because we have two minutes

of transformation in the beginning. Or at least

that's my explanation. It takes seconds to put

a fade -out fade -in. I mean, this was a true

hard transition. It was like, you know... And

Grandis stomped on the floor in the club, and

the record started skipping or something. I mean,

that's what it felt like to me. It felt like

a record skip. And I was like, really? Yeah,

Megatron's WMDs destroyed the transitions. Get

away from my weapons of mass destruction. What

kills me is... The last episode, you've got Ratchet

the whole time telling Prime, you're going to

have to use the hammer. And he's like, I'm not

going to use the hammer. Come on, use the hammer.

He's like, I'm not going to use the hammer. So

finally, he picks up the hammer. And his first

shot misses. How does that even work? And then

he's arguing with the hammer like it's a hammer.

He's talking to it. I know. He's like, open,

damn it, open. You know, he's like, look, I know

you don't think I'm a hero, but come on, you

know, work with me here. And it's like, dumbass,

point it straight, you know. Hammers don't kill

people. People who hold hammers kill people.

It didn't make any sense to me. But then, you

know, he pulls off this epic move. He turns into

Thor. Yeah. And he spins into a, I don't know,

what is Thor's tornado called? A thornado? I

hear my dub it, Thornado. Yeah, I... Oh, God.

Great. Here's a new word. From Transformers vocabulary

to Marvel Universe Comics vocabulary. Lovely.

Thornado. So Prime pulls a Thornado that manages

to take out all three Omega... Well, take out

one Omega Lugnut and disable the other two so

that they can't fly. Yeah. And that, you know,

that's kind of cool. I'll take that, sure. Yeah.

Oh, it's funny. I'm actually looking over here

at my Energon line Omega Sentinel. And it's like,

how hard would it have been to have an Omega

Supreme? I mean, I got this thing. It's like,

admittedly, this is kind of a cool toy, but I

got this thing. Why couldn't I have it? Anyway.

Because you can. Probably for the same reason

I don't have an animated Blackout or an animated

Wingblade Prime. Yes, exactly. Moving right along.

This is the time for closure. It's not the time

to open up new plot lines. You know, Sari communes

with a protoform. Commune. She's touching it.

It's glowing. She's communing with it. Yes. But

we don't know what she finds out. Exactly. She's

like, I suddenly know why I'm here. Why? Tell

us. Why? Enlighten us, you dumbass. I know. I

want to get Marty Eisenberg on the phone and

go, Marty, what the hell? Seriously, man. What

were you thinking? Tell us what was going to

happen. Well, what happened here was we were

a little drunk that night. Exactly. Well, I mean,

I understand that maybe they didn't absolutely

know that they were going to get canceled. They

had a pretty good idea. I even brought it up

to Marty when I met him at that VodCon. I said,

you know, the new movie's coming up. do you think

you're going to see a season four? And he said,

well, I hope so. Yeah. It's like, all right,

seriously, you know, let's, let's be objective

about this. You know? I mean, I didn't push him

on it. It was just like, yeah, well, Hey, good

luck, dude. You know, now if I go, yeah, but

still it was like, ah, that's not very satisfactory.

I mean, I'm really going to hate it if you guys

get canceled. And they did. Uh, but I don't know.

It, it, it seems unfair again. to use that time

to open up a new plot line when, number one,

we're not seeing any Dinobots in this episode.

Say goodbye, Dinobots. We're not seeing what

happened to other characters. We're not seeing

Prime become Magnus with his giant bling around

his neck. There's other things that we could

have focused on rather than... Rather than two

and a half minutes worth of transformation crap.

Well, and new plot lines. I mean, granted, they

kept this to a minimum, and it was nice to have

Sari, I don't know, become enlightened. I'm not

sure exactly. I mean, maybe if you changed the

line, if she had said something like, hey, I

honestly don't know what she could have said

other than nothing. It's like, what could she

have said that would have made us... cry and

roll around on the floor and go, what do you

mean? Speaking of crying, who else cried when

Prowl sacrificed himself? Not me. I was tearing

up. I don't know that he died. I'm joking. I

like Prowl. He's like, you know what? I gotta

save the world, man. And there's only one thing

I can do. And Jazz is like, We can find another

way. He's like... The only thing I have to say

is whatever Prowl can do, Jazz can do better.

You know, would you have rather seen Jazz die?

If Jazz had said, hey, let me blow it up there.

We kind of got that in the first movie. I mean,

Megatron ripped the shit in half. But... Yeah,

that's true. But, I mean... Prowl is okay in

this series. He's not, obviously, you know, this

series has to differentiate itself, but it also

wants to homage stuff here and there, but I don't

know. I just don't, like, okay, here's, like,

worst, like, the worst of the worst to, like,

not so bad. Bumblebee and Bulkhead are the worst

of the worst of the Autobots. Well, okay. Prowl

is, like, Like six notches above them. Let's

explore that then. You've got Prowl and Jazz

saying someone's going to have to sacrifice themselves

to give up their spark in order to save the world.

Who's it going to be? And they all look over

at Bumblebee. And Bumblebee says, why are you

all looking at me? Why is everybody always looking

at me? But I will give Bumblebee some credit

in this two -parter because he was smart. He

wasn't clumsy. That's right. He didn't do anything

stupid well besides, you know, getting the transmitter

stepped on. But, I mean, or, you know, falling

debris dropped on it. He fixed it, right? Not

really. No, the idea there was to put a bugging

device there so they could hear what was going

on. And he did. He turned on RC's transmitter,

and that was the same thing. Yeah. In fact, that

might have even been better, because it's possible

that that huge box that got squished could have

been found out. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, no,

I think he, again, come a long way, one more

season, maybe he could have been a lead guard

material. He had his one shining moment in this

episode where he wasn't a dumbass. Shockwave

and his viciousness, I mean... after she tells

him the code can be retrieved, he just yanks

the wires right out of her head. At least she

didn't die. I mean, I think that bringing her

back, I mean, again, Sari just kind of communes

with her corpse, right, for a second, and says,

oh, yeah, all you got to do is X, Y, and Z, and

boom, she's back. Yeah. It's like, how long has

she been dead? How long has... She didn't even

go gray. Well, I don't want to say brain dead.

How long has she been a vegetable? Ratchet has

spent the last nine million years being a grumpy

old man because his entire life had changed drastically

the day he had to kill her. And now, oh, she's

back. And all I had to do was point at her. That's,

you know, as much as I've said throughout this

entire podcast so far. And, you know, this will

probably be the last time I say it because the

last five episodes are more of the merchandising

and all that stuff of the brand. But this is

Ratchet's story. But that guy never fucking ages.

Even when he was a Cybertronian, you know. I

think he was skinnier. He didn't have the pot

belly. He was skinnier and he had a big giant

X on. I mean, talk about a moving friggin' target.

He had a giant X on his fucking chest. You know.

Exactly. The old bot never really aged in this

series. I mean, he went from being old to being

older. Kind of. You know, let's put it this way.

There's a lot of killing in this episode. Starscream

dies. Prowl dies. It would have been very easy

for Shockwave to reach out, tear that harness

off her head, and for her to drop down and turn

gray. True. Number one, Shockwave's badass and

vicious. Number two, Arcee is dead, and Ratchet,

although he would be crushed, it wouldn't belittle

his whole life's journey. He is the way he is

because he had to kill Arcee. Well, not kill

her, but fry her brain all those years ago. Yeah,

but my point here is the guy, like, all right,

I can believe. Optimus, because he does have

a... Everyone has a Cybertronian form. Everyone

has an Earth mode. But Optimus in his flashback,

I can believe that Optimus is younger. I can

believe he looks and acts younger at that time.

Even in the flashback when they went to that

planet, I believe that Optimus is younger. With

Ratchet... They only gave him a different paint

job and a different album. His face is smooth.

It's not all bumpy and stubbly. His crest is

still there. He's not as pot -bellied. He moves

a little bit more. He's younger, it's obvious.

He's younger, but he's still old. He's, let's

say, middle -aged, not a crotchety old guy. I'd

say when he's on Cybertron in those flashbacks,

he's probably 45. When he's on Earth, he's like

65. That's old. I'll buy that. Sure. Okay. Yeah,

I'll take that. Yeah, I agree. But I mean, you

know, pushing 40 myself, I'm not ready to say

45 is ancient. Oh, my God. Put that guy out to

pasture. You were out to pasture a long time

ago. Tell me about it. Starscream pulls the old

bomb and the clone trick again. Yeah. It didn't

work the first time. What made you think it's

going to work now? It didn't work the first time.

And then Megatron. This is the only stupid thing

I've ever seen Megatron do in this series. He

goes to cut it, and it electrocutes him. Seriously?

You wouldn't think Starscream would have some

sort of planted place for that? Starscream is

reacting from the grave. Well, I shouldn't say

from the grave. He hasn't died yet. He doesn't

know that he's going to die yet, but he's...

Yeah, anyway. And the Cyber Ninja Jam. He's like,

you know, when they get together to do the summoning

of the Allspark shards. It reminded me a lot

of the ending of every Final Fantasy game I've

ever played. God. Well, if you look at the end

of, let's say, Final Fantasy VII, because that's

my favorite of the series, it's very Gaia -ish.

You've got all of the mana on the planet suddenly

uprooting and flying toward this one central

location. And that looks a lot cooler than what

we got here. I mean, it was kind of neat to see

it coming out of the water, coming out of the

mountain, and coming out of wherever. converging

and forming into a new AllSpark, but at the same

time, it's like, well, you know, it could have

been neater. It could have been very Gaia -ish.

You know, I'm surprised this didn't happen. I

know Ratchet's off doing his own thing, and everybody

else on Earth fighting with the Supremes, but...

I kind of wish I knew a Supremes song to toss

us in there, you know? Yeah. You know, I almost

wish that they would have made the reference

of, you know, you just stop, you get weak, you

have to sit down for a moment. What is it? What

happened? It's like a million voices cried out

and then were silenced. See, now, I pull out

a Star Wars reference and... Oh, thank God. You

got the reference. I was going to say, what the

fuck? If you don't get that reference. You pull

out a Star Wars reference, and it's like, oh,

you know, I pull out a good Star Wars reference,

and it's like, yeah, whatever. STFU. It's just

like, all right, fine. Thanks, bitches. I hate

you all. What else? Is that it for Endgame, or

do you got some else? No, pretty much. I mean,

I just want to reiterate, you know, I love the

ending. I may complain a little bit about, oh,

they're still hoping and trying for a season

four, and they're pushing these little nuggets

out there to create new plot lines. But even

so, the ending here was epic. It was just awesome.

There's no – I don't know if there's a way they

could have done this any better. And what made

it even better was the music under it. Heroes

Welcome by Sebastian Evans II. That was some

epic music. See, now, every time I think of this,

all I can think of is, like, and I hate to say

this, but the... I want to say the Star Wars

music at the end of the re -remastered... Oh,

Lord. Are you talking about when the... You're

talking about in A New Hope, or are you talking

about in Jedi? No, I'm thinking of at the end

of Jedi, yeah. Oh, God, with the city... No,

this is... As much as I love John Williams and

the Star Wars scores, this was more epic than

them showing the cities. I honestly can't remember

what this music sounded like, though. I'll play

it for you during the break. Okay. I'm sure it

was awesome, because, I mean, it's... The music

is an integral part to every moving scene. And

this was moving. It was like, wow, this is pretty

amazing. I think, again, I know they were short

on time, short on resources. It would have been

nice to have made a little more room for, you

know, let's say Prowl's body. You know, they

show them carrying it down the ramp. But, you

know, Dinobot got a memorial. You know, I want

a memorial for Prowl. I'm not entirely sure what

was in those other pods. Are they... The protoforms,

the ones that weren't destroyed. Well, I thought

they were the protoforms that were destroyed.

No, no, no. They just left them in a pile there.

No, because not all of them were... No, no, no.

Because Megatron inserted three protoforms into

the Lug Supreme clones. Right. He had a whole

bunch of other ones. He's like, ooh, I have plans

for these protoforms. Kind of like Beast Machine's

Megatron has plans for the Sparks. But he's only

got three. No, he doesn't just have... No, there

was more than three protoforms there. Were there?

I thought there was like three just kind of like

haphazardly thrown off to the side. There had

to have been at least six because there are three

stasis pods just randomly next to... Optimus

and Lugnut at the end scene. But no, those were

the protoforms because when Sari was in there

after they vacated that part of Megatron's base

or whatever else, after they went off to Earth,

Sari was in there and she communed with the protoforms.

Okay, I'll buy that. There's at least one. I

mean, there has to be at least one protoform

there. I don't know. No, no, that makes sense.

I just thought they have one coffin. We'll put

it that way. And it made me think the other ones

lying there were dead bodies too, and they're

just kind of haphazardly tossed on the ground.

That's funny. No, I still think it would have

been nice to have a little more closure here.

I don't know. I mean, I thought that with the

comic series that was released, and I know it

ended after like four issues. or something, but

that would have been nice maybe to show us what

happened. I haven't personally read the Stunticon

job. Oh, you have to read it. It's awesome. I'm

told, yeah. It mainly focuses, obviously, on

the Stunticon, and it's mainly sideswiped story,

but just seeing those beginning images of, you

know, they start with the end shot of what we

get here of... Optimus and all them standing

around, and then it goes to Optimus and Sentinel,

and yeah, you've got to read that comic. Oh,

see, now if it goes to Optimus and Sentinel,

is Sentinel still Magnus? Yes. So they're showing

the closure here that I'm hoping for, and yet

I haven't actually read it. That kind of blows.

I need to get a copy of this. So anyway, which

makes me much less informed. Yes, and you can't

just read wiki to get the info either. Yeah,

because I tend to do that. Yes, yes you do. Wiki

is your friend. Sometimes, unless it's false

information. All right, so that's pretty much

it for Endgame. As we've said, it's an awesome

ending. We wish there was more. Sadly, there

isn't in animation. There is in comics a little

bit. We're going to go to some ads. Then we're

going to head to Cybertron to hear Kevin's final

thoughts. And we'll come back to close the show.

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Optimus Solo, your Cybertronian correspondent,

reporting in one last time from Cybertron with

my thoughts on the final three episodes of Transformers

Animated. Before I get to that, just wanted to

clear up a couple things from last episode. First

of all, I don't know why you guys thought I was

bashing Predacons Rising. I gave the episode

a 7 slash 6 out of 10. I enjoyed the episode.

It was a solid episode. I just had a few minor

problems. So I was not bashing that episode at

all. You guys might want to re -listen to my

clip. And the other thing, just because something

has a precedence or has been done before or has

something connected to it in G1... doesn't mean

I should say, oh, well, then it's alright in

Transformers Animated. Just because something

is paying homage, or because there is a precedent

set for it, doesn't make it okay. It's not okay

if you do it terribly. Yes, there was Headmasters

and that type of stuff in G1, so there was sort

of human slash Transformers in G1. That was nothing

even similarly remotely close to what happened

in... the episode i refuse to talk about um so

not only is it comparing apples and oranges it's

comparing rotten apples to oranges so you guys

are just way off on or at least michael wilson's

off on this whole just because it has a precedence

or because it's happened before in transformers

mythos or lore makes it okay to bastardize it

in a current incarnation We can talk about that

in episode 16, I guess. But getting on to episode

40, which is the 11th one of season 3, This is

Why I Hate Machines, written by Rob Hoagie. I

have no idea if that's how you actually say his

last name, but that's how I'm going to say it.

The major nitpick I have for this episode, and

it's a major nitpick for amongst the episode,

it's not something I was real stuck on, but there

really is no introduction to this episode. It

just kind of starts and you really... are kind

of like, what the heck is going on? There was

no getting you into the story or into the action.

It was just starting, and you're kind of confused.

Most people probably were at the beginning of

it. It's kind of like, what the heck is going

on right here? So this episode did lack an introduction,

but that is about one of the only things wrong

with this episode. It's cool seeing the political

side of Cybertron. That Trax cameo was maybe

my favorite cameo of the entire series. That

was awesome. He looked cool. He had a great homage

voice there. That was cool. Starscream scenes

have been awesome for the entire third season.

Starscream has been stealing scenes over and

over again, and it's really cool. The council

was cool to see in the actual environment that

they were in. up close and in person in this

episode. Um, another little tiny, tiny thing.

There was no need to show actual snot coming

out of Falzone's nose. And there was no reason

for it. to be a hanging wad of spit at that one

point that could have had some other way of illustrating

that point that was disgusting. And why are Falzone's

eyes always shut? But anyways, Shockwave's one

of his best episodes of all time in this series.

I shouldn't say of all time. Of this series,

this is one of his best moments. He was badass.

Kind of cool to see Fortress Maximus partially

transform. I'm still sad that we never got to

see Metroplex do that. That inform... bot thing

who or what was that um this episode is just

another example of why jazz is a kick -ass character

rc was cool um i never thought a ratchet shockwave

showdown would be cool but they pulled it off

in this episode they actually pulled off making

a ratchet shockwave showdown badass. And it was

cool to see the final, finally get the color

change for Shockwave. This was a pretty solid

episode all the way around. I'm actually going

to give this one an 8 out of 10, guys, so remember

that's an 8 out of 10. I was not bashing that

episode. Okay, moving into the final two -parter.

It's called Endgame, Part 1 and Part 2, written

by Rich Fogle, the first one, and Marsha Griffin,

the second one. These are episodes 41 and 42

total, 12 and 13 out of Season 3. I'll break

it down into parts here. For Part 1, isn't it

so refreshing that we actually are getting episodes

now that are tied to previous episodes wow that's

so cool not just those one -off throwaway season

one episodes um Starscream he just keeps turning

into my favorite character now he is not my favorite

character but he just keeps getting closer and

closer to that or should I say his head is getting

closer and closer to that um there's a cool flashback

with the primes and ultra magnus and the punishment

being doled out you know tying that loose end

up that was pretty cool Um, please don't taint

jazz with this cyber ninja bullshit. And then

the only other note I have for part one is poor

Starscream getting owned by Megatron yet again.

It was kind of funny though. Um, part two, uh,

we started off with a, well, at least the last

gay transformation sequence, which I'm not supposed

to say that word, but, uh, The last horrible

transformation sequence we ever have to see for

Transformers Animated. So I'm glad that's over.

I was confused. They said, get everybody to Sumdack

Tower. That's the safest place in the city. When

that was one of the main targets. That seemed

a little bit odd. I loved the WMD reference.

That was kind of cool to put in there. I had

a slight wish that they would have been incorporating

a few more of the other bots we've seen over

the course of the three seasons to kind of wrap

up loose ends. This is an all -out battle type

thing, so it would have been cool to see something.

I don't know, maybe some of the Dinobots or some

way to throw some of the other people in. I don't

know, it would have just been kind of cool. This

was a solid two -part episode. It was looking

like it was going to be a great finish to a mediocre

series and a decent season until the end. What

a cheap -ass way to solve the major problem of

the episode. The major problem being that the

clones of Omega Supreme are going to blow up

and they need a shield. And this is how they're

going to solve it. They couldn't come up with

a realistic way to do it. So they said, let's

fall back on that other storyline. The cyber

ninjas will meditate, gather the all spark from

all corners of the earth through meditation.

Give me a freaking break. No one could come up

with a better realistic solution. So they had

to settle on that shit. It was an easy way out.

It was a humongous tarnish on an otherwise. Super

solid series finale. We'll get more into that

later, I'm sure. Calling him Starscream Supreme

was funny, and I guess my last note for Endgame,

thank God that poor excuse for a prowl is dead.

Overall, though, even without the ending there,

even with the ending, even with that shitty -ass

ending to that problem, I'll still give the two

-parter a 7 out of 10. This almost would have

been 8 or 9 material. I'll give it a 7 out of

10. And this is Optimus Solo, and I survived

watching three seasons of Transformers Animated.

Autobots, come! Blah, blah, blah, blah. Ooh,

that sounds crazy! Even to me! Now back to Transformation

Animation Podcast. Alright, that's it. So Kevin

made it through. He didn't die on us. He's told

me off -air that he wants to go back, and I'm

sure he'll mention this next week in episode

16, but he wants to go back and watch all of

Armada, Energon, and Cybertron to see if it's

as bad as we keep telling him it is versus this

series. Why would he do that? I know, really?

No, I mean, this series, I can understand, given

his point of view, how he could maybe not enjoy

this series as much as I did. But even I look

at Energon and just want to weep openly. I mean,

it's just so bad. Honestly, I don't think he

would be able to get through the first maybe

two episodes of Energon. I mean, I enjoyed Armada

a little bit. Cybertron, I enjoyed more. Because

just the direction they took, they included the

beasts, they included Cybertronian modes, and

they included Earth modes, and they made it plausible.

It was almost as if they tried to take the whole

Transformers mythos and bring it all together.

And there were some decent characters in there.

And I thought, wow, well, maybe we're on the

right track. Maybe we're going to get something

better. And then Energon came along and just

ruined it. It was so horrible. It was just really,

really bad. It was like epic fail. So epic fail.

I don't know. I mean, and nowadays, without a

toy line to support it, it would be really hard

to sit through. Yep. Especially, oh God, especially

Minicons. Don't even go there. Don't even get

me. It's like, yeah, you don't like Ewoks? Yeah,

Ewoks are the Star Wars equivalent to Minicons

and Transformers. And I know technically minicons

started in G1 with Laserbeak and Rumble and Frenzy.

Those are not minicons. That's not a minicon.

I know they're not, but everybody calls them

minicons. I call them the G1 cassette formers.

I'll buy that. So, I mean, that's what I call

all those guys from G1. But these minicons and

these three cartoons, these things fucking suck.

As far as this is why I hate machines, I originally,

to respond to Kevin, I was like, InformBot? And

then I realized, oh yeah, Rattletrap. The Informabot.

Yeah. And then Kevin made the point of, why do

you need the snot? And I kind of already said

it. I mean, the robots are... fearful of the

organics. You've got to have the giant dangling

loogie to make him dangerous. Otherwise, he's

just going to step on it. Any response to Kevin

for This Is Why I Hate Machines, Steve? I 100

% agree with him. You've agreed with him the

entire podcast, pretty much. He's like a sheep.

Just a sheep going along with whatever Kevin

says. Kevin might actually like that, actually.

God, I know I'm going to get it next week for

that comment. He likes sheep. Oh! Oh! Alright.

You know, I... That... It was so bad. It was

so bad. What the... Oh, God. Stop it. Oh, dear.

Yeah, maybe it's a little bit early. Maybe I

should wait until later on in the comments here.

This is why I hate machines. Yeah, no, I wanted

to go on record to say that I sometimes give

Kevin a hard time just because I'm contrary like

that. I agree with an awful lot of what he says,

and I really like hearing what he has to say.

Because, again, this is a viewpoint that we don't

have. We've seen all this before. We have formed

opinions on this ahead of time, and we're re

-watching it all over again. But we already know

what to expect, and Kevin doesn't know what to

expect. He's taking this from a completely different

context. I think it added something to the podcast

this time around. No, I agree. It might have

been a little bit better if all four of us could

have done it every week, but that just wasn't

plausible. And Kevin could watch the episodes

on his own. He could record his clip on his own.

And I like the way that we went ahead and made

it his Cybertronian Correspondence segment, live

from Cybertron. I like that angle of it, and

I'm glad I came up with the idea. Don't break

your arm patting yourself on the back. He just

likes to take credit for shit. No, but again,

you know, I'm very happy that, you know, Kevin

was able to do this and do it in the way he did.

And, you know, I sometimes give him shit and

say, oh, you know, you just hate things that

are awesome. But, you know, because that's just

me being silly, you know. But, you know, you

got to respect the guy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Except

when he's talking about Hey Dude. But anyway,

on to... Oh, shut your pie hole. Oh, yeah, that's

right. Steve's a Hey Dude fan, too. Lovely. Jackass.

Moving on to Endgame. I only really have two

the Starscream head. I think everyone likes a

little head. Wow. Wow. That doesn't happen every

episode now. I know. Let's get it out of our

system. He's ahead of his time. He should have

stopped while he was ahead. Everyone likes a

little head. Okay, we got through it. He needs

more head. He needs bigger head. I like Starscream,

period. Whether he's a head or a whole body or...

You know, I mean, he's been ahead before. He

got headmastered. Yes. And then he's like, well,

I survived. I don't know how, but I survived.

And he acts like this is the worst thing in Transformers

history. You know what? I want him to sit through

one episode of Energon and then come back and

talk to us. This is a live Sarbatardian correspondent,

and I've been killed watching Energon. You know,

I mean, he won't survive that. I'd rather watch

Energon over Armada or Cybertron. Really? Yeah.

Wow. I don't see that. See, I enjoyed Cybertron.

I really did. There were aspects of Cybertron

that I didn't like. But again, you've got the

Beast mode, Cybertronian mode for the speed planet.

You've got Earth modes for Earth. I don't know.

I mean, it's hard to explain. I liked the toys.

I liked the show, again, supporting the toys.

Like, giant planet. We got a Metroplex because

there's a giant planet. I mean, they really tried

to tie everything in there. But Energon just

didn't bring anything to the table. I mean...

Armada introduced minicons, and I had kind of

a minicon fixation there for a while. I just

loved them. I wanted to buy them all. I wanted

to buy all the Japanese -only colors they had

because they had their own color repaints that

they didn't have in the U .S., and I wanted to

buy all those. Sad, it really is. As hard as

it was to sit through... Not like a cartoon.

I mean, you know, that's perfectly fine. I mean,

if we didn't have the Cybertronian toy line,

the Cybertron toy line, we wouldn't have a lot

of the BotCon toys that we've gotten over the

years. You know, I mean, because different BotCon

toys have been remolded from Cybertron toys.

Cyber key power! Don't even go there. But I mean,

you know, I... I will say that you can like the

Cybertron toy line without liking the completely

shitty cartoon that there was. Well, you know,

again, the Cybertron cartoon wasn't that awful.

The Energon cartoon was awful. No, seriously.

Let me review every Energon cartoon ever. It's

Prime getting his ass handed to him by Megatron.

Prime combining with something in order to defeat

Megatron, Megatron combining with something to

defeat Prime again. Yeah. Rinse and repeat. Yeah.

I mean, granted, I think the only good part about

M. John was they introduced a new Shockwave toy.

Wasn't that Shockblast? Yeah, it was Shockblast,

yeah, or Laserblast in Japan. Or was it Laserwave

in Japan? I forget. But what it came down to

is it looked a lot like Shockwave, and it was

the first time they'd done that. Yeah. And honestly,

you would think, wow, they got a Shockwave toy.

That's amazing. He must be really epic on the

cartoon. It was awful. The cartoon almost ruined

Shockwave for me. It was just so bad. And then,

well, I think they killed Shockwave because he

was so stupid. But we brought back Quickstrike,

or I'm sorry, his twin brother, Shockwave's twin

brother, who is red and yellow or something.

Wow. And he had the Quickstrike accent. It was

so bad. It was just so awful. It made me want

to weep openly. Honestly, I couldn't watch it.

I tried. I really did try. Couldn't do it. And

honestly, I want to say I was still a completionist

collector at that point, and there's still Energon

toys that I don't have because I just couldn't

bring myself to collect that line. Oh. Yeah.

Yeah. Anyway. Those toy lines were just freaking

bricks anyway. Still Cybertron. Yeah, again,

I... Well, I don't know. I have to go back and

look at the line here because I think I'm looking

at the Cybertron toys. Oh, no, these are the

Energon toys. Okay, yeah. Energon did blow. Well,

you know... Thank you for joining us here on

the Trans... Fuck. They got a Wheeljack toy.

I think they made the downshift, though. But

he looked really nice. And he combined with other

toys of the same size class. So, you know, but

this is a toy line that brought us Fatimus Prime.

Or Sputimus Prime. Sputimus Prime. Oh, dear.

Or Optimash Prime kills Tony Starch or whatever.

Oh, no, that was the movie. I know. Yeah. Anyway,

yeah, so I'm going to get off my soapbox here.

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