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Discovery Predictions, 'The Wolf Inside', Twitter Wars & Viacom + CBS = Trek

About this Episode
I want to preface this with saying that the show will be taking a slightly different tone and direction with the dawn of 2018 and that is segmented. We'll be going a little longer and a little more diverse.
Also eventually Captain Dodd who’s been at StarFleet medical will return along with a few others who may join the journey along the way but for now, it’s just me.
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Hello and welcome to Future Imperfect. I'm your
host Admiral Phillips aboard the timeship USS
Future Imperfect. I want to preface this episode
with saying that the show will be taking a slightly
different tone of direction in the future. With
the dawn of 2018 and there's gonna be more segments.
I'm gonna kind of break it up and have like a
little bit of news, a little bit of Twitter conversations.
the reviews of the episodes, maybe like kind
of a brief recap and like Elkar segment returning
and the predictions for the future of the show
of Star Trek Discovery. And so I feel like this
will give everyone more of a new fresh approach
to the podcast and more of a well -rounded touch
to it. I don't suspect it'll go over 40 minutes.
If it does, it'll be because I have guessed so.
Speaking of which, Captain Dodd is on the mend,
who's at Starfleet Medical, and could possibly
return in the near future, along with his number
one, Ryan the Uneven Flow. So we could be seeing
some... some influx of fresh crew to the USS
Future Imperfect. So first on the agenda is the
Star Trek news. Viacom, there's rumors that Viacom,
which actually owns or used to own CBS and had
spun it off in 2005, Maybe looking to recombine
with the dawn of Disney purchasing Fox Which
kind of lends itself to interesting discussions
because we could see The future of Star Trek
kind of tied back into its TV roots With the
films much like the original Star Trek Universe
the original Prime universe before Abrams rebooted
the whole thing And so I think that we could
see something beneficial. This may also help
explain the issues that we've been having with
continuity problems. Because that's the one thing
that I've noticed is that the continuity has
not been, they have held very close to it that
they've changed and updated a lot of things visually
and aesthetically and technologies that aren't
present in later series. feel like they Would
have been better off with a reboot and I've had
plenty of Twitter conversations and Twitter wars
with that over the past six months anyway, and
especially the last night and I I think that
this could could be beneficial and I say this
because this may be why some of the some of the
things that have happened the way that they have
in the Star Trek universe haven't meshed as they
used to or once had and so I think that this
may be a good thing and I don't think that we're
going to see that much of a change or an influx
of anything actually if this re -merging of the
two split companies I don't think there's gonna
be that big of a difference in what you see on
screen But you could end up with more of a shared
universe, which means we could with the influx
of of the Abrams verse because let's face it
discovery more or less fits in the Abrams verse
To some degree to some degree It fits like no
matter what like enterprise pretty much fits
that either timeline, because the splinter doesn't
happen until pre -Kirk. So even if you want to
play that route with it, I think that... We could
see more of the the Abrams like you could see
the Abrams Spock and Kirk and McCoy and all that
cast show up on Discovery Which is on an on an
all -access app, which means they spend a lot
more money on it. There's less episodes They
wouldn't they could show up for a quick cameo
You could have a combined universe and it wouldn't
really affect anything unlike, you know Marvel
where they've kind of screwed the pooch on that
So I think that this could be a good thing however
it's it's not really gonna make that big of an
impact and and so I think that as a whole it's
it's kind of a in a sense a nothing burger so
I also saw this kind of interesting geek history
piece of the fact that they tried to make Captain
Picard wear a wig And I've seen the picture of
this and it looks Rather odd I'm glad that they
went with the bald look for Picard in the show
I'm very glad that they did he looks kind of
he kind of reminds me of like that Robert Keel
From from the other ship from the the conspiracy
episode of season one Walker keel he kind of
looks like that And it looks really weird to
see Patrick Stewart with hair because he's been
bald for so long or had that look for so long.
It's just hard for me to look at him and not
see that. And to see this picture is very different.
But yeah, it was for the screen test, I guess.
The test photo of him wearing a wig for the role.
I'm quite pleased that they didn't go that route
and just kind of left it alone so I Don't know
so there's there's been a lot of a lot of Twitter
war a lot of Twitter war I've been all over this
We were kind of conversing about it last night.
I've had a lot in in terms of Like there's this
Star Trek OT the original timeline that follows
me on Twitter and and we converse back and forth
quite often because I have a lot of pet peeves
with discovery I don't outright hate the show
and and I think that that kind of comes across
when I'm in in the podcast is people think I
hate the show And I don't I I'm glad that there's
Star Trek. I'm glad that there's something. It's
just like Transformers There's there's a different
style and a different thing at least they reboot
when they do it This is point blank trying to
just fit into that continuity in a place where
they should have just left it alone. One of the
things that I've noticed is a lot of people have
saying that Star Trek Discovery accomplished
the rare feat of making events that I had guessed
in advance happen on screen in such a way that
was really exciting. It was good to see some
familiar faces too. That's kind of the problem
and I realized that it is nobody's really surprised
It because you're making it way too obvious of
things that are gonna happen. I've managed to
predict a lot of it, too such as Vaughn being
Tyler reconstructed as a human and and I talked
about that around the same time everybody else
was thinking about it and then when the Emperor
thing I You know, George Oh, you know, that's
about the most obvious choice there. If she's
not on the Shenzhao, then that's where she's
at. So like, it's... It's just, it's kind of
annoying really to keep track of this series
at this point because you're constantly battling
with fans, you're constantly battling with...
various aspects of the Star Trek world and I
find it very, I don't know, I kind of want there
to be this barrier that they kind of just leave
things alone. The show it like it's gotten toxic
on on social media and I try not to partake too
much into the toxic side more so just the fact
that I've predicted something or Some of those
elements and There was there was quite a few
conversations that I was involved with you know
Yesterday too and and we were talking, you know
somebody's mentioned that and maybe they'll introduce
a new cue who will magic them all back to teach
them a lesson or or something to that degree
and You know the the general consensus is people
are tired of pre -kirk they want new adventures
to tear into Instead of just writing something
new like I I wish that they would go There's
plenty of time they can go. I mean, you could
still do... There's that time span between the
2390s and 2409 that they could have another Klingon
and Federation conflict that they could have
gone to. They could have had the higher up -to
-date looks and technology. They could have...
Because that's kind of a pocket of time that's
not really touched on in Star Trek Online. It
would give them kind of a nice, you know... 20
year gap to play with and it not really hurt
too much Or they could have gone in the 25th
century and gone mid 25th century and done things
there. So There's a lot of routes that they could
have gone. They could have done, you know, the
Starfleet Corps of Engineers They could have
done temporal investigations. They could have
done Section 31 these were all shows that myself
and Birdman Dodd had brought up Way earlier when
when the announcement of a new Trek series was
coming down the pipe So it's not it's not a new
concept. None of this is new concept. It's just
the fact that We're getting a show that the the
hardest part is getting past the fact that they've
altered the Klingons with no rhyme or reason
why They've created the sport drive and there's
no rhyme or reason how this technology came about
or why or what happened to it or if anybody's
heard about it or a reference point or just anything.
And again, I have theories on things that I'll
bring up in a little bit but overall, I find
this series to be very annoying in how much they
leave just kind of hanging. They tell us the
story they want to tell but then they completely
disregard Any type of mention of why things are
the way they are and they're like, oh, we'll
wrap it up by season one Well, you know season
one is almost over. That's that's kind of you
know, get the Get the ball rolling here so And
then I I love the fact that people were calling
out the Constitution class starship of the Defiant
which came from the regular timeline around Kirk's
era because it was still phasing between time
and Due to the Tholians which again ties into
a mirror darkly of Enterprise and they find it
under the Tholians and it's gone back almost
a hundred years Actually a little bit over a
hundred years and so it's sitting there in this
timeline and not being touched and and the Archer
of that time steals it and then You you get Empress
Sato who Sato who takes the the ship as her own
more or less flagship So it's it's It's been
under Terran Empire control for over a hundred
years So the the graphic that they show the schematic
why it has the the Midnest cells and why it looks
more militaristic and more You know the wireframe
just kind of looks more I don't know dark is
Because it's been under Terran control for a
hundred years this USS Defiant So therefore the
technology is going to be more up -to -date Because
they've had a hundred years to play around with
this tech plus the fact that It came from the
prime universe. So they've they've gotten their
first kind of Constitution class starship from
the prime universe a hundred years earlier than
they should have and so I I'm I'm with the writers
on this particular incident because you know,
they've they've had years for the Terrans to
modify the ship So it's it would have needed
it by this point with with being an operation
for that long But I do believe that Georgiou
is using this as her flagship, I think, because
why would you give up the most powerful ship
in your fleet if you have it? I also think Georgiou,
you know, I guess I'll jump into my predictions.
I'm not going to be doing L -Cars in this episode,
although I want to hit that point at some point
in the future. but one of the things is I think
Georgiou is going to be revealed as the the great
-granddaughter or the granddaughter of Empress
Sato in this universe and then I think that it
was more of an inheritance thing either that
or she you know off somebody and ended up with
the ship I think That Giorgio is also going to
be offed by Michael Burnham Because it'll it'll
parallel the You know her wanting to get over
her former captain and the fact that She's going
to have to kill this one. Whereas the other one
she didn't kill that just was an accident of
Takuma and so I Think that that's going to happen.
I think Lorca Is from this timeline, I think
he is from the mirror universe. I think he was
either hit with a tantalus field By Giorgio or
somebody else and sent to the regular regular
universe and That's why he's Possibly damaged
and he won't let anybody mess with his his body
and he's Think he's got a quantum signature all
of his own That he's been masking somehow Which
would explain why the the random coordinates
on the last jump for the spore drive and Stamets
kind of referencing You know the whole Captain
Tilly thing and I Think a lot of this stuff is
is is is crossed over Between things that that
they've they've mentioned briefly. I think that
it's very I Think everything you read into it
is is what you're going to get essentially Because
we got the the mirror thing a while back when
Stamets was in front of the mirror we got We
got the whole thing with with Tilly we got You
know, Giorgio, I figured, was going to be the
Emperor just based on the fact that she's the
only one that they could have had do it in this
timeline. And they said that she would be back.
And then I think that we're going to have the
Doctor. I think he's going to be returned to
life through spore regeneration. Much like Stamets
was restored in order to converse with his Terran
counterpart. I think that those two are going
to figure out the mycelial network for the spores
and the spore drive and be able to essentially
swap their ships back to their correct universe.
There will possibly be mention of other Constitution
ships and I hope that they don't alter them all
too much. I know that the Defiant, they'll have
free reign because it's been there, like I said,
over a hundred years. but I hope that they don't
screw the pooch on the rest of them. And you
may get to see Captain Robert April or Christopher
Pike on the Enterprise at some point. I think
that as far as Tyler is concerned, because he
is primarily human at this point, I think we're
going to see him either A, they're going to figure
out a way to get rid of the Valk, programming
and mental capacity or he's going to stand trial
as the Klingon scum he is. I think they're using
this also as their way of saying that look they
started modifying them as spies and then they
were disgraced because Federation found out about
them and so I think this is going to be their
way of saying it happened even though They're
not going to even reference the virus or anything
that came before in Enterprise, even though it
all kind of is supposed to be connected. Because
I definitely see that kind of coming down the
pipe as something that they've not thought of.
And again, we'll see. I hope that they can restore
the Klingons to how they should look. And this
is just a weird mutagenic set of Klingon houses,
factions that are being wiped out by the regular
Klingons that look normal or something to that
degree. I think the Spore Drive will be destroyed
or deemed too dangerous upon return to the Prime
Universe in favor of working on Transwarp technology
which was discovered during Enterprise by the
Borg technology in the Antarctic. So I think
that they're gonna start reverse engineering
that and starting to kind of work on that that
capability But yeah, I mean those are those are
some of my predictions I have a lot of harebrained
ideas and thoughts on it, but And they also insinuated
that Burnham was going to be captain of the Shenzhou
or Shenzhou or I can't even say that stupid ship's
name But they they insinuated she was gonna be
captain of it all the you know at some point
when in the second episode or first episode with
Giorgio talking to her about you know getting
a shot at the chair so I kind of think that everything's
everything's you you can everything you read
into the the vocals the text I think that you're
gonna get what you expect out of it and It's
it's gonna be interesting to say the least So
I'm gonna take a quick break come back on the
other side with the wolf inside review and Then
after that close out the show, so we'll be back
after this So the wolf inside I I Rather like
this episode. I've liked it since they've hit
the mirror universe honestly I've not liked a
lot of the Klingon stuff. I've liked more of
when they've been in this because it's more of
a struggle for them and more of a feeling of
DS9 without being DS9. And they didn't have as
memorable of a scenario. But I do like how Stamets
is restored using the Spore network. Thought
to have died but comes back and is communicating
with his Terran counterpart. I like how Tilly
is is showing incentive enough to get put into
the command program Whether she lives or dies
or not through this series is this to be considered
You know to be of future notice to see if that
happens, but she she I think will stick around
for a while Saru is showing some backbone, which
is nice. Lorca, it was nice to see him come out
of the agonizer and have a conversation and kind
of show him a little bit battered but still very
much there. It almost seems like he's conditioned
to be able to suffer but be able to handle it
at the same time. So I think that he's had a
bout in it before, which is why he's not too
concerned with it. I also like how Burnham mentions
that it's very easy for her to fall into this
status of being captain and just kind of willy
-nilly just watching people get put to death
and everything else and it's too easy for her
to do that and finally getting the programming
broke on Valk. who is Tyler by seeing his mirror
counterpart and it throws him and he finally
is, you know, finally revealed to be the wolf
inside that he is and getting to see Sarek on
the other side because it just shows that this
is just another thing that Spock and Serak are
an opposition of in this universe because Spock
is of course Terran Empire and his father is
not. So it's it's kind of interesting to see
that kind of play out as the series goes and
then you get you get to see a new version of
a Tellarite. You get to see a new version of
a Dorian, which neither one of them are all that
much changed. They're not that bad, so it's still
pretty close to home. The Tellarite's a little
bit wonkier, but I'll give it a pass because
I haven't really had any main cast Tellarites,
and they've changed them a couple times over
the decades, more than the Klingons, and it's
just been interesting to look at the various
Aspects of this episode and and then they I love
how they they played it out all the way to the
very bitter end about Giorgio being in charge
and you get to see Tyler because of his mutiny
and his trying to kill the captain and and mirror
Saru throws him off Which was awesome to see
him kind of waiting hand and foot on Burnham
It's still funny that she neglected to tell Saru
about seeing his counterpart probably because
she didn't want to embarrass him or upset him
that he waits on her hand and foot in the other
universe. But it's funny that he saved her and
then Tyler gets beamed into space which gets
picked up by Discovery with the defiant information
which means that Now Burnham and Lorca have to
get off of that ship, off the Shenzhou and off
of the Empress's capital location. So we'll find
out about that more next episode too, but I think
that it's quite interesting just how things are
changing and ramping up as we're closing out
to the end of the season. Because I don't think
there's that many episodes left. I think there's
like four or five episodes left, and then it's
done until season two and so I'm I'm enjoying
what what we're getting now More than I got the
first half the season I feel that the first half
is very weak although. I feel like the the mirror
thing is is completely overrated in a sense because
We never really got a true sense of their personas
There was too much flip -flopping on everybody
In that first half and so I feel like we never
really get to see the characters like I feel
like the mirror thing should have been a season
two thing I Don't think it should have been a
season one So or at the very least the end of
season one It's I don't think we've had enough
room for them to grow to kind of gauge whether
that's something out of their polar norm In the
series so It's it's gonna be interesting. It's
gonna be interesting and I I want for some of
these Changes to happen. I want for some of these
things to improve but We'll just have to wait
and see what the writers do. I if you guys have
any tips or ideas of what You think may happen
this season? leading up to next season even how
like maybe the next few episodes are going to
go or the season finale. I think we're going
to get to the season finale and I think we're
going to have some loss of main characters. I
think we're going to get them back to their home
universe, but I don't think it's going to be
the same time. I think Discovery is going to
be completely gone from the 23rd century when
it comes back. This is just me spitballing and
throwing it out there just because this would
just be a further nail on the coffin and kind
of ramp it up because if they they've mentioned
how they want to go game of Thrones style, so
nothing really works out and so if you're going
in that route I think that they may end up in
another timeline and Or another time period if
anything, but they may not because they said
that they have ten years to span out between
now and in Kirk so it's it's gonna be a giant
game of cat -and -mouse trying to figure out
what's going on and what's what's what's gonna
happen what's not and it's gonna be an adventure
for sure they do have people guessing good buzzer
bad buzz on Twitter it's still it's still buzz
so they CBS doesn't care I still don't like the
fact that you can't get it on Netflix or Hulu
or on CBS and you have to pay for their stupid
app which I just I wait for it to be streaming
I elsewhere because I I just think that it's
a bit ridiculous that they're they're charging
more for a stupid app and and I was like I would
have kept my my Netflix subscription had they
kept Star Trek in it in the lineup But because
they didn't, I ditched my Netflix and stuck with
Hulu and Pure Flix and other things like that.
So I'm kind of on the fence on that. I want to
support the show just for the sake of supporting
it, but I still think the Orville is a better
gauge and it fits more in that future timeline
than this does. But... Yeah, I don't know. I
don't know it's it's it's been fun. That's all
I gotta say so anyways What are some things that
stood out to you in this episode? What are some
things that shocked you? What are some things
that you just kind of knew were gonna happen?
Just based on things we've gotten in the past
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