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About this Episode

Steve and Mike discuss the Netflix price increase and debate streaming service value. They explore a website that tracks total hours of TV watched, discovering how much time they've each spent on shows like Scrubs. The conversation shifts to Marvel and X-Men comics and films, with deep dives into the Days of Future Past and Age of Apocalypse storylines, predictions about upcoming X-Men movies, and speculation on DC's approach to Justice League films versus Marvel's strategy.

Hey, this is Steve Blum, and you are listening

to the Geekcast Radio Network. Hi, this is Pat

Fraley, purveyor of duck, dog, and villain voices,

and you're watching Altered Geek. and welcome

to Altergeek Unlimited. I'm your host, Steve

Megatron Phillips, and joining me this week is

Michael Booth Ninja Powers. Howdy, howdy. Howdy.

Yes, I'm back for this week and then I won't

be here next week, but that's OK. You're back

for this week and we don't have a lot to show

for it. Yeah, that's fine. So what have you been

up to? I'm so tired. It's It's house stuff Because

I just got my house last Thursday Congratulations

round of applause. Thank you all that entails

Yes, now now I'm figuring out all the little

Stuff that you overlook when you're browsing

it houses And the stuff you don't realize when

you actually get a house versus an apartment

Yeah, I figured that out too, especially the

fact that how much money you can dump into a

thing. That's why I made some kind of a comment

on Twitter earlier saying that I feel like my

life is following this path of what's that movie

that Tom Hanks was in? Oh yeah, Money Pit. Because

I'm watching my savings go lower and lower and

lower. That's okay. That's what savings is for

To be lowered on something like this And I kind

of had to justify it to Mary that uh You know,

we're increasing the value of the house by adding

these things to fix it right I try that every

once in a while. It works. It works to a to a

certain extent and then they wise up so use it

while you can Well, it works for the fact that

we have a kid so it's extra leverage. Because

she's of the same opinion. The carpet in this

house is so disgusting. We tried using another

steam cleaner on it the first night we were there.

You cannot get anything out of that carpet. It's

like they laid it down 20 years ago and never

cleaned it or anything. So like you can see like...

animal stains and food stains and burden stains

and stuff and it's pretty much in every room.

Yummy. So, you know, I tried running the steam

cleaner over the water came out like black and

made no difference on that spot in the floor.

So we're like, yeah, we're not ruining our steam

cleaner. So, you know, fast forward to almost

a week later and last night we were at Lowe's

for like two hours. and ordered carpet for, now

my news is a four -bedroom house. We have an

upstairs living room and a downstairs living

room and the downstairs is much larger. The upstairs

one and the dining room had laminate floor already

in it from the previous owners. We're going to

install ourselves the laminate in the Up the

the stairs and the hallway on the upstairs and

our bedroom Next week, okay Because it was cheaper

for us to buy the the laminate and do it ourselves

and to pay them because it's I think it was like

a dollar sixty eight a square foot Which the

square footing thing is always funny because

they're like, oh it's so low and then when you

actually consider what an actual square foot

is and like a linear foot and everything it's

it's Tremendously larger so it they make it seem

like it's gonna be Cheaper than what it is and

then they figure the room size and you're paying

hundreds of dollars But we're gonna do that next

week we're gonna have cable or not cable carpet

installed in the two kid rooms And that basement

living room, which is all disgusting My office

has carpet which eventually we're going to rip

up and put linoleum in So that my chair glides

nice and easy across it, okay So like those are

the projects going on plus it's got like a original

linoleum in the bathrooms and I've entered a

project of redoing the The drain and The trip

lever for the the drain in the bathtub Because

they have the mechanism there, but it does nothing

So you can't do baths. Yeah and kind of need

to do that with having a kid so I gutted it yesterday

like most of it out of there and it was corroded

because they didn't seal it up right and they

didn't Have anything actually doing anything

in there because they were grown adults and so

it was you know showers So I I'm trying to get

the drain Piece out of the tub So I can put the

new one in That's not fun. I tried doing that

in my house and I gave up because I realized

we don't take baths We don't have children Yeah,

so I still have all the stuff to replace it but

no Yeah, I bought the thing to replace and it's

like 12 bucks for that and it includes the lever

But it doesn't include the mechanism that attaches

to the lever and goes down the pipe that allows

it to block or unblock the water So I had to

buy that separate as well as the the Seal that

goes around the the mechanism so it's it's it's

slowly like little little money pieces here or

there and I've already had to nail the shingle

or not the shingle the Downspout back to the

side of the house at one point because the wind

had knocked it loose and they have all the water

running along the side of the house with no extensions

and We've painted four rooms already since we've

had it a week Okay, both coats in the rooms And

we're stopping on the paint after that for a

while and because the rest of the house like

the bathrooms and the other stuff are gonna need

it still and a lot of Ghetto rigged electrical

and cable lines throughout the house That I'm

slowly ripping out as I go into new rooms So

I think when I have a cast yeah, I think when

I have Comcast come out I'm getting a line backer

and having them rewire my cable because they

have it snake through the carpet or through random

walls and It's it's not how it should be That's

always fun And then this weekend we get to do

the major move with the U -Haul truck, so We've

pretty much got all the the boxes over already

Like in preparation we've disassembled just about

everything So it's that's what I've been up to

for the last week All right Myself I've been

doing too much other than work other than working

and hanging out with my wife. We've been rewatching

Scrubs. Well, I've been rewatching Scrubs. I

believe this is her first time watching it. We're

enjoying that. I don't know. I haven't really

been doing a lot of gaming. I did catch a movie

this week, but I'll talk about that at the end

of the show. And I could do that because this

podcast doesn't get released until Friday. So,

um, but other than that, I've just been trying

to get caught up on various TV shows here and

there because I have a whole backlog that I'm

still wading through from all the comic book

reading I did in November and December. So I

have like a nice backlog of TV shows to watch.

But I guess something I can kind of toot my own

horn on is that Side note here almost human was

finally cancelled by Fox Can't say I didn't see

that coming me either but It's kind of disappointing.

It's one of those things now or I think like

on an upcoming episode maybe we should talk about

like shows that you know Netflix or Hulu or Should

revive or shows that we would like to see them

revive. I think that would make for an interesting

conversation since like original content is taking

off on those uh those services I guess but uh

yeah I was kind of bummed to see it happen because

I mean I did like the show I liked uh you know

you just you saw it and it looked expensive which

is probably the most disappointing thing about

the show because it was like there's no way that

this stays on the air uh what's as expensive

as it looks so but Sad to see it go Other than

I don't really have anything to talk about oh

No, there is I'm sorry. I am sidetracked by something

that we'll talk about later In the show. Yeah,

not surprising. I'm still adding I don't know.

We I wasn't sure if you had I Kind of wanted

to enter to be here because I wasn't sure if

you'd seen the latest trailer for days of future

past Know some of our listeners have seen it

because I've seen like they're like Twitter reactions

to it and stuff like that I finally saw it yesterday

In between a couple episodes of scrubs I was

just watching the browse the trailer section

on my Apple TV and I watched the new days of

future past trailer Which for those counting

at home is only two trailers. So if you've seen

two then you've seen both of them I feel like

In a way I kind of feel bad for Bryan Singer

and not for what he's in the news for right now,

but I Feel bad because he started off this With

the exception of like blade and like the Richard

Donner films and you know Tim Tim Burton's 89

Batman Singer kind of brought in my opinion.

He relaunched the whole comic book franchise

as a movie thing with X -Men. Yeah. And I feel

like the way that he was able to do that is that

he took the X -Men characters and he toned them

down and put them in this real world precedent

that has kind of seeped through almost all comic

movies since then. They're kind of grounded in

reality or how would these things be? how would

these characters react in the real world or our

world and I feel kind of bad that he was kind

of put he was kind of pigeon -holed into doing

that and by doing so he was able to introduce

comic book comic book movies to the masses and

it opened up the door for comic book movies to

just like flood the market for the next you know

it's been like a decade and a half now since

the original x -men came out you know so like

almost 15 years now And seeing the second trailer

for Days of Future Past, it was kind of like,

it seemed like he finally gets to make the movie

that he probably wanted to make originally, but

he couldn't do because it was too fantastic.

Because, you know, you've had movies like Thor

and Iron Man and the Avengers now, people are

used to seeing these big spectacle comic book

movies, and he's finally able to use the X -Men

like the way they're meant to be used. And I

what the only thing that really jumps out at

me that I can kind of say is that you know Magneto

like lifts up an entire I believe it's a baseball

stadium. Oh Yeah, and like throws it I mean that's

not something he would have you would not see

that in Bryan Stinger's first two x -men movies

like The audience wouldn't believe that you know

what I'm saying And I feel like you know he was

just kind of Because the audience wouldn't believe

that you know 15 years ago He kind of had to

make that's why he made the movie that he made

then but now he actually gets to make the movie

that you know should have been made and I just

thought that was really interesting to see because

It's nice to see the guy that kind of started

it It's a chance to raise the bar if you will

I mean, I don't know if days if you pass is gonna

be good But it looks damn good So I'm excited

to see the movie. I don't know how soon I'll

get to watch it when it does come out or But

I that that movie definitely looks To me, I honestly

would rather watch that movie than watch now

that I don't love spider -man 2 I did or not

to but just spider -man as well But I find I

enjoy x -men more Me too. No, I agree with you

on that. I enjoyed the I enjoyed the x -men characters

and the movies more than the spider -man movies

I just I think they're more action -packed and

more entertaining and it's the the variety that

you get to see in it rather than Pretty much

just the the bad one guys Because I mean you

have a lot of a lot of complicated characters

As far as where they fall on the line of good

or bad And it's it's mostly like point of view

and stuff. So it's I enjoy that plus I Especially

for days of futures past. I've read the comic

And enjoy it plus it's time travel and I I enjoy

the time travel aspect of it too, but the comic

I think we talked about this before on this show

We talked about the days of future past comic

when they announced what the movie was going

to be and Holy cow It doesn't that the days of

future past story is so short. Yes. It has giant

ramifications on the X -Men universe But it is

so short. I'm surprised they were able to get

like a you know What I'm hoping is a two and

a half hour movie out of it But I mean it's just

it's just really surprising. I will say this

and I think Danner would agree with me Spoilers,

but not really spoilers. I haven't seen the movie.

I'm just taking a step in the dark here We all

know that age of apocalypse is the follow -up

movie to days of future past I Am predicting

and as I said, I believe Danner would agree with

me that the young Xavier in days of future past

is going to die at the end of the movie. That's

just my prediction. What makes you think that?

Are you familiar with Age of Apocalypse? Vaguely.

Okay, for anyone that doesn't know or maybe might

be too young to know, Days of Future Past was

a mid, not Days of Future Past, I apologize,

Age of Apocalypse was a, I believe it came out

in, what was it? It was 1995. It was the Marvel

event in 1995, only it was an X -Men event, so

it covered all of the X -Men books, like the

Avengers and stuff. They were kind of involved,

but their regular line didn't have anything to

do with it. Basically, what happened, and I could

be... The names and faces have changed, so I

might get those wrong, but... the overall plot

will be correct. Xavier's son travels into the

past and kills Xavier before he can form the

X -Men. Wow. And what happens is it causes a

ripple effect in the timeline and when Apocalypse

rises up and threatens humanity the X -Men aren't

there to stop him. So he ends up basically enslaving

the world and what happened is is like all of

the Xbox got new names like all new titles For

like Four or five months, I think they all had

new titles like Cyclops was a bad guy Wolverine

was You know, in a relationship with Jean Grey

and they were both agents of S .H .I .E .L .D.,

Magneto was the leader of the X -Men and he was

a good guy because he took up Xavier's dream

as his own in remembrance of his friend who died.

Nightcrawler becomes like a murdering monster

versus the holy, you know, the Christian guy

that he is. Beast. Not being having to hold to

no moral code or ethics becomes a dark beast

and he starts doing experiments on on mutants

and You know basically takes them to their logical

conclusion and stuff like that and it's it's

a dark twisted reality and it lasted for you

know Four or five months in the comic books So,

and that's the story, that's the story that they're

going to try and tell in Age of Apocalypse. And

cinematically, with what they're setting up with

Days of Future Past, where, you know, they send

Wolverine into the past to try and change the

future, I think that somehow... Xavier is going

to end. It's not going to be Xavier's son that

kills him in the cinematic telling of this story,

but somehow Xavier will die at the end of Days

of Future Past, setting up the events of Age

of Apocalypse, which they have said takes place

in the 80s. Where Days of Future Past takes place

in the 70s. So I and I also think Danner has

said like it's possible that Wolverine may end

up killing Xavier. So anyways, that's just so

a little thing is like I don't think they could

go through and exist I don't think Age of Apocalypse

can be a self -contained story like From the

get -go like I don't think you could open that

movie with Xavier dying I think it would be better

to show Xavier dying at the end of Days of Future

Past Setting up the events in Age of Apocalypse.

I think it would just flow better and then And

then at the end of Age of Apocalypse you pull

like a back to the future 2 thing where they

travel back to the event in Days of Future Past

and save Xavier from dying. Because that's kind

of what happens in the Age of Apocalypse story

anyways. A select group of mutants realize that

the time continuum isn't the way that it's supposed

to be and they end up going back into the past

again and stopping Xavier's son from killing

Xavier. That's just a little something that,

you know, Dan and I have been talking about with

regards to these movies. So I'll have to check

that out. It's it's an interesting story. And

the coolest thing that I that I took out of it

was for their. Unlike the Ultimate Universe and

like Marvel zombies and I think it's like was

Marvel 1886 or something like that. Where those

movies or those comics are their own. continuity

their own universe if you will the age of apocalypse

was believed to have been an alternate reality

to the 616 universe which is the standard continuity

in the marvel universe kind of like the alternate

timeline that was created in back to the future

when they lost the almanac okay instead of a

completely new universe. So at the end of Age

of Apocalypse, everyone just thought it snapped

back to the way the timeline was supposed to

be. And to Marvel's credit, for 10 years, Age

of Apocalypse was not mentioned in any continuity,

any universe. In Marvel Comics, it was not mentioned.

So it's almost like it didn't happen and then

for their tenth anniversary they actually revealed

that the age of apocalypse was in fact a Separate

universe like it it it carried on after the course

was corrected So they did like I think was like

either five or ten issue issues It was like a

tenth anniversary age of apocalypse and it showed

It introduced some of the newer more like the

newer more popular characters in the X -Men universe

like in circa 2005 and how they were how they

would have appeared in Age of Apocalypse So Like

for example x23 in these in the standard continuity.

She is a Hydra experiment In age of apocalypse

they wanted to add her into the age of apocalypse

storyline So she ends up being she's still a

clone of Wolverine, but she was cloned by Dark

beast like he was one of she was one of his experiments

So it's it's just and it's a really neat twist

on the characters too because like I said Cyclops

is a bad guy and he makes a way better bad guy

than he does a hero Yeah, I Could probably agree

with that. I I'm not the biggest advocate of

his I hate Cyclops. Yeah He just seems kind of

like a little bitch all the time to Wolverine

It's my way or the highway Wolverine's like bite

me. I'll do what I want All right, do you want

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So until next time, unleash the geek in you.

We all seem to like it when we talk about TV.

I know you guys like to hear about all the TV

shows I am watching or not watching at the time.

We do watch an eclectic variety of TV shows.

So we thought I found some fun things. One I

just kind of found like earlier today and one

I've been kind of holding on to for a few weeks.

This is basically what I was distracted with

at the beginning of the episode while Steve was

talking about his house. first the the the boring

uh nitty gritty part of the whole thing um gizmodo

uh found an infographic i don't know if they

made it actually i think it's a nielsen infographic

about the it is um for some reason this says

top 10 but it looks like a list that's longer

than 10 shows um it's a nielsen infographic it

says top 10 how long will it take to watch Different

TV shows different popular TV shows So for example

the TV show Sherlock takes about 14 hours from

beginning to end And on the other side of the

scale I mean there are there are longer shows

than this but like 24 for example takes six days

and two hours to finish so If you've watched

24 from beginning to end you've forfeited six

days of your life congratulations so are there

any TV shows on this list that you that you watch

um as far as the infographic yeah you know I

don't I see Big Bang Theory but that's only two

that's two days 13 hours well for the for the

first for the first image I watch none of those

shows but for The second one that says the top

10 Even though it's got more than 10 shows there

Yeah, I think the first one is meant to be 1

2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 The first picture is not even

10 episodes. So whatever I don't know what the

heck's going on with this graph It doesn't make

any sense they're dumb Yeah, the the other one

I only watch Yeah, I only watched Big Bang Theory.

I well and how I met your mother sometimes I'll

watch that But it's not when I'm like I'll sit

and watch they just they all seem like throwaway

episodes to me So you watch it with another you've

never watched it from beginning to end No, it's

more of those it just because it's not and I'm

waiting on another show and flipping channels.

I'll sit there and watch it Okay, okay So now

we've got the fun Interactive portion of the

show and we'll put a link to this in the show

a lot Steve and I a while to start this start

this show because we were playing around with

this They're sure your list is a hell of a lot

longer than mine. Well, you were talking I went

through my entire RSS feed that I have to automatically

grab shows and I put in I added all the The shows

that I have in that list so Basically it is a

Civil code I don't even know how to say it, but

I'm going to butcher this it's civil civil kodak

kodaly calm TV I will have a link in the show

all of your TV shows? Do you know how many you

you've entered in Steve I've entered I've entered

in About 50 shows Okay. Yeah, I've entered in

about what that's Kind of creepy that we've entered

in about the same amount There are there are

like a handful. These aren't all the TV shows.

I've watched these are just the shows. I'm currently

watching What magic number did you come up with?

As far as what like how many days have you spent

watching the shows that you? So far because I'm

just I'm just below 50 I have a hundred and eleven

days 21 hours. Okay. Well Takes all some the

fact that I'm still ahead of you I'm at a hundred

and sixty four days eight hours and ten minutes.

Yeah Wow, I feel I'm disgusting. I'm a bad person

So you've wasted about a third of a year That's

mmm, it's almost over half Yeah, actually there's

over half yours I'm sure I could figure I like

if I were to go through my entire hard drive

Of TV shows, I'm pretty sure the list will get

a lot a Lot longer Dang so yeah, we'll have a

link to the show notes for this so you guys can

like see it's real It's it's neat. It's interactive

you just type in the name of the show that you're

doing you can hit just enter on the keyboard

and it keeps a running tab of Each show that

you entered and it puts the show art down at

the bottom of the screens It just kind of fills

up with like cover art for all the shows that

you watch But it gets kind of addicting cuz you're

like, oh what about that one? Oh, what about

that one? I mean does that one add? And you did

add in the Star Trek ones, right? Yep. Yeah,

I was only able to add Realistically, I was only

able to add two of those like I probably do two

seasons of deep space nine But that's about all

of that that I've watched so Is there anything

interesting that you've seen on the internet

you want to bring out um, I've been kind of watching

some of the trailers and some of the Some of

the random things popping up like Earlier everybody

was kind of making a big deal out of the a 113

Okay, I know that's inside joke of Disney well,

yeah Knew that that's like you can find a 113

in In almost every Pixar movie, I think it's

the license plate on the pizza truck Yeah, there's

actually a website. They have every reference

it goes back to like even Lilo and stitch and

Like it goes back to mid 90s Wow It's it's it's

kind of wild seeing how often that pops up because

I know a lot of the the Pixar they have like

John Ratzenberger and as a voice in all of them

or they have Some form of something from any

of the Pixar films kind of cross -contaminating

each other. Yeah, usually it's the next movie

The next movie has something in the current movie

Like In up, I cannot remember the name of the

pink bear in Toy Story 3 Yep, he's in up He's

also in Monsters Inc The first one? Yeah Really?

Yep, he's in Boo's room I didn't know that It's

either Boo's room or the simulation room I didn't

know that one He's in there Hmm Have you seen

the the meme about The toilet seat cover and

it being it's Sully's The the texture for Sully's

fur the the turquoise and purple It's pretty

funny it has something to do with Randall saying

how about how humans capture monsters and skin

them and use them for upholstery and Sully says

like no and then it shows a picture of the I

think it's the toilet seat cover from the Toy

Story short the where they're having the party

in the bathtub and The toilet seat cover is Sully's

fur Wow, which is just kind of funny I don't

and you know what it's been so long since I've

seen monsters ink I don't even know if that's

an actual line from the movie But it was it was

pretty funny to look at it because it's like

It's like one of those, whoa, I never noticed

that. I guess we could go to, I don't know, if

there's maybe listener feedback. There was some

stuff. Let's see. Super film fan 98. Well, one

of the things we brought up last week was that

the Coming Netflix price increase from I think

it's going from like eight dollars to like nine

or ten I don't think they've actually said what

it is yet And so we posed the question about

You know, how much would you pay for a service

like Netflix or you know? How much would you

pay for like a streaming content service? No

one actually came out and really answered that

question, but super film fan 98 chimed in with

I still think Netflix is an amazing deal with

the price increase Considering how much you get

for your money And if they continue to make shows

like House of Cards and Orange is the New Black

I'll continue to pay So one of those fools who

gets DVDs in the mail from them I don't think

you're foolish for getting stuff in the mail

from them. I mean I just Would I always loaded

up my cue for Netflix stuff and I would always

forget to send the DVD back So like they wouldn't

cycle out fast enough for me to actually like

have the DVD stuff Like I would never remember

to put them back in the mailbox Nice. I mean,

I always return them but it wasn't like fast

enough for me to like You know go through my

cue in any meaningful amount of time so But what's

weird about in Netflix streaming is that there

are movies on there that I want to watch, but

I won't watch them unless I can watch them on

Blu -ray. Because it's like one of those things

where it's like, I want to watch this movie,

but I want to experience it the best way possible.

And that's not on Netflix streaming. I do agree.

House of Cards and Orange is the New Black is

great. And I'm also looking forward to all the

Marvel content that is coming to Netflix. And

a brief update on that. Marvel has said that

all of the Netflix shows will hit all at the

same time. So you can binge watch all five series

at once. Now whether that proves to be true or

not is... Needs to be seen because daredevil

is supposed to hit next year and daredevil is

really the only one that they've like talked

about Obviously iron fist cage and Jessica Jones

is coming along with the defenders But they've

really only been talking about daredevil So take

the whole you know, all five series are coming

at the same time with a grain of salt The other

news about that is that they all take place inside

of the Marvel Cinematic Universe So it'll be

interesting to see how like the Netflix show

crosses over with the ABC series or With you

know, the silver screen component to it as well.

So Do you have anything to say about the Netflix

price hike would you pay ten dollars for Netflix

or Honestly, I probably would but my only my

only Problem with Netflix's It doesn't seem like

they rotate stuff out often enough Yeah, and

when I say that I mean like I had Netflix for

years and I think January we finally cancelled

it because Nothing really was coming to it new

I'd already watched all the TV shows I wanted

to watch that was on it and the same thing with

the films It just it didn't seem like they were

getting rotated out enough or that there was

enough I mean, yeah, there's a huge library and

variety on there, but it seems like a lot of

the stuff Either a took forever to get on there

or it took forever to get the new seasons of

stuff. Yeah or It's just I think that the they

were you know between the losing some of the

momentum their their streaming and a lot of the

deals and having to come up with new ones and

I Just I didn't see a reason to pay for it anymore

Just just because I mean it either takes six

months to a year for them to add more Yeah, I

can see that it got kind of old to me I after

a while I just started either watching it on

demand on Comcast which is provided or if I want

to get something and blitz through it not have

commercials or You know to be as close to being

Netflix as possible without it I just I torrent

them but you know for for the TV stuff, but speaking

of that There's something I want to to share

when we're done with the reader comments. There

is one of the thing I want to share I don't condone

it, but I want to share it because I think it's

kind of neat Okay, but uh Yeah, I think I think

I made the comment last week that um Half of

netflix is crap Like it like to any like to any

given person half of what's on netflix is crap.

I'm not saying like Like, you know, there are

there are movies that I think there are movies

or tv shows on there that I think are crap But

to another user those are probably awesome and

the stuff that I like is probably crap to them

So like yeah any given person like half of whatever

is on Netflix is crap so Freddy Savage brought

up the almost human getting cancelled which we

talked about a little bit ago He also questioned

about if there has been something since lost

that has been successful JJ Abrams TV show and

Yeah, the guy has thrown a lot of TV. He's like

produced a lot of TV shows He's I don't think

he's been like the showrunner for a lot of things,

but he's produced a lot of TV shows Since lost

and a lot of them don't seem to stick. However

To that I will you know get behind our Person

of interest is I I think really good I do enjoy

Person of Interest. It's a really cool show,

especially if you're into that whole government

spying on you type stuff. If you're paranoid

about that or you think the constant surveillance

stuff can be neat, it's a really cool show, the

way they use that. Infringe, which, I mean, it's

not on the air anymore, but it came out, it started

in the tail end of Lost and went for five seasons

on Fox, of all TV networks. um that was actually

a pretty decent show after after it got out of

the first season but that first season sets up

a whole lot of stuff for the next four seasons

so yeah he's he's been a hit or miss guy because

he does throw a lot at the wall to see what sticks

but at least he keeps trying and he comes up

with some pretty interesting things um another

nod towards person of interest though is it's

not just a jj abram show it's also it was also

co it was like created with And some episodes

are written by Jonathan Nolan, who is the brother

of Christopher Nolan. So imagine like Batman

without the cape and cowl. Yeah, I think we've

talked about that before, that that's how Caviezel

is. Yeah, and Finch is basically Alfred. Yep.

So it's a cool show. I enjoy it. Epicurious of

sidium It's talking talking about the Batman

Beyond short that Mike brought up last week He

said that man that Batman Beyond movie or short

is a big tease really It seems odd to make it

so short of all the shows you mentioned The one

that I would be upset if they canceled it is

easily Hannibal I once thought that show was

put on ABC without her on NBC without NBC even

knowing I could not figure out why else they

would have it on their network. It does not have

any generic style they love. Also, I believe

community did get picked up. I have not looked

into that Epicurious, so if it has, I don't know.

So, yeah, obviously we go on to talk about, you

know, how awesome Hannibal is in the comment

threads, but what did you think of the, what

did you think of the, I still, I still. have

not watched the Batman Beyond short. I agree.

It's not long enough and it is a huge tease.

I kind of wish it was at least, you know, the

three minute type clip that the Bruce Tim Batman

clip was. OK. Because it at least gave time to

set up part of a story and have a resolution,

which this. This does it as well. But it's so

short It's it's I Mean, I like it. It's it's

to the point everything. It's so short that It

makes me wish that they just made a whole episode

Mm -hmm, like just a whole 20 minute episode

of it. Just is kind of you know something cool.

It's in It's it's almost got like a hard act

feel to it Okay, as far as the stuff going on

And then they they touch on the multicultural

base of Batman Like all the different incarnations

of Batman it kind of mentions I've seen the I've

seen the screenshots that Mike posted on Facebook

and stuff like I've seen stuff from it I just

have not watched it yet. So And they stayed true

to the animation and everything else. I mean,

it's really neat, but they added some of the

the new Batman Adventures Red Sky type series

to it. Well, see, one of the reasons I haven't

watched it either is because I know blasphemy

Batman Beyond wasn't that great to me. I mean,

and that's I mean, I thought the idea is cool

and and like the way it's all set up, but I,

you know, it's not. It's like Terry McGinnis

is kind of like, you know, Miles Morales. He's

not my Batman Like Peter Parker is my spider

-man Bruce Wayne, it's my bad That's just kind

of like the way I always looked at it. Yeah,

it was a cool idea It's a cool premise, but it's

it's not you know, it's not Batman. It's not

it's not my pet man so But but it kind of it

kind of makes me feel that they are trying to

tie up the some of that as well though. They

uh, you know. But didn't they do that with the

whole epilogue thing? Well they did but it's

this is like somewhere it feels like it came

after season three. Okay. But before epilogue

so I mean it's it's it's almost like another

one of those touching on Bruce's rogue gallery

kind of thing and how Hardac popped up for three

episodes in the show and one of them was a robo

batman and that essentially has come to play

in this as well. So it's kind of along the lines

of having you know, the Ra's al Ghul and Talia

and then the mr. Freeze and Bane and Joker like

all showing up and with Bruce being old Okay,

so I mean in it was it was really neat. I was

impressed by it. But again, I wish it was longer

Hey if I butcher this I apologize Haley Bailey

says I don't think agents of shield will get

canceled. Maybe they will cut the budget for

next season to bring it back Maybe move it to

Netflix if they are smart They will move season

one to Netflix as soon as possible and promote

the heck out of it And maybe more people will

check it out and be more inclined to watch season

two the problem With getting anyone to watch

agents of shield to season one is that they have

to wade through What amounts to 12 to 16 episodes

of crap? Before this before the series is able

to prop itself up against the events of Captain

America winter soldier, and then it becomes awesome

How long it will remain awesome for? No one knows

Now have you watched this week's episode of it

I I have not But I it's getting interesting twist

to it not only with agent ward and They're I'm

only going to say this. He's Hydra. He's definitely

Hydra, but they make him seem like he's almost

like partially sympathetic towards Skye. Like

he truthfully gives a rat's ass about her. Boo.

And then Deathlock is basically like, look, bitch,

this is how it's going down, because. Garrett

tells him, gives the orders and stuff. And then

it's interesting the way that it's revealed that

he's a turncoat to Colson's team. And then of

course you see Maria Hill in it and that was

a nice touch. Especially all the dialogue that

she says was definitely, it made me laugh because

of how... How she delivered the lines and how

how certain things played out? Because she's

had you know, she was the the second in command

of shield under fury But it also by the end reveals

the Origins of who handled Tahiti Okay, the Tahiti

project it's it's an interesting revelation.

Well, I mean, I have this weekend off from works.

I don't know that I'll be able to watch it, but

I will definitely watch it before we record next

week's stuff. So, I mean, I'm saying it's good

now, but the problem is people have to wade through

the first 12 to 16 episodes before it gets good.

And that is that is a hard thing to ask anybody

to do. Which is which is why TFG and Mike had

such a problem with it. Anyhow besides the fact

of Colson I mean it I do agree that you know

he gave it the first six episodes which I honestly

believe that By that point you should have already

been well on your way into starting to get into

everything Well waiting until the 12th episode

well to be fair Arrow had the same problem And

it seemed like arrow got better Arrow got better

once they knew that they were getting a second

season renewal and then they could just run crazy

with it and It got really good Agents of shield,

you know, the ratings have declined decline decline

decline decline Winter Soldier comes out all

of a sudden the show gets really good and the

ratings are still crap because everyone stopped

watching the show because it took so long Not

only that they still haven't renewed the damn

thing Yeah, that's the only thing that makes

me wonder I Mean, it's I can't see ABC really

killing it because Disney owns ABC and owns the

the Avengers and it's like a bridge between the

Marvel Cinematic Universe. Yeah, we've always

said it'll probably get a pass Because they'll

just be like funded by the movies Yeah, I mean

that's it. It makes sense. I mean, it's like

a run -on commercial where people can guess,

you know guest in it, but it keeps the the storyline

flowing between the films, but they even throw

in a comment about they name drop Romanoff and

Stark a couple times in the episode, which I

think it would be kind of cool if they could

get them in there. See, that's the one thing,

I didn't watch the most recent one, but the one

before that when they were name dropping left

and right, that was great. More name dropping,

more world building. I've said it before like

on Mware on here like I'm all about the world

-building and that's really weird considering

the movie that comes out this weekend that Does

it very poorly? But I feel like the Marvel stuff

the Marvel Studios films have always gotten the

world -building right In my opinion but and you

know the more name -dropping that goes on in

agents of shield the better I feel that it gets

because it's like it Does make it more connected

to the bigger picture. That's something also

sorely lacking in you know, the first half of

this season The one of the one of the comments

that I like about Colson to Maria Hill because

you know in cap to She's working for Stark By

the end. Mm -hmm, and then they drop that tidbit

in there And to the effect that the only reason

Stark's not getting harassed for the S .H .I

.E .L .D. thing is because he's got all the money

to get all the lawyers to pony up in front of

him. And then she talks about working for Stark

and Stark's private security company, which leads

me to believe that Stark may be the new head

of S .H .I .E .L .D., like the new S .H .I .E

.L .D. But I mean they haven't completely revealed,

you know that shield's gonna be around but I

can see that happening and then you have You

have Colson saying to Hill that uh, I'll say

hi to to start for me. Oh wait. Yeah It'd be

interesting to see what happens with the show

Did you see, was it you that posted the thing

on Facebook or reposted the thing on Facebook

about Stark dropping the ball on the whole Hydra

thing? Yeah, I think I did. I found that. The

subtitle for the scene was, in such and such

amount of time, I'll know all of Shield's dirty

little secrets. And it's like, drop the ball

big time on that one, didn't you? Yeah, I found

that really dumb. I I I find it dumb just from

a continuity standpoint, but then again, it's

the Avengers so I'm not Not that worried about

it, I mean there are other things about that

movie for me to Not like Other than continuity,

but however, I'm wondering if like It I mean

being hydro hid from fury, so it seems like It

seems like they could have hidden that stuff.

I like private servers like that aren't used

by shield. You know what I'm saying? Like just

because he hacked into shield doesn't mean that

that's for hydras stuff was You follow I'm saying

yeah, I'm not trying to like correct the continuity

of the movie because Lord knows I don't want

to correct anything about the Avengers, but it's

just it's in my in my mind it's especially since

Tony even brings up the idea of ghost drives

in like the first iron man where there's like

a file he's got like a server inside of his own

company that is like ghosted that only he can

see it would almost make sense that you know

hydras got the same thing if even if their stuff

isn't even stored on shield servers so which

it does it for something like that it seems like

they would not be stored on shield servers and

so but which could explain uh You know with if

Stark's having this security company and you

know has a more advanced version of Jarvis How

the Ultron thing would take place and Avengers

2? Oh, yeah, I mean after with the the especially

with having shields dirty secrets out there and

Well rewatching the Avengers and Like We're watching

Avengers half of Half of Iron Man 3 because I

tried watching it with the commentary track on

and the commentary track blows And Cap 2 I definitely

can see where Ultron is going to come from The

problem is it's not as in your face as Like the

plot thread for phase 1 Like the plot thread

for phase 2 has been very very thin Yeah, I agree.

It's not on the it doesn't at least to me It

doesn't appear like I know what's coming because

I'm a geek. I'm a nerd Like I know what keywords

to look for like they're talking about like the

satellites in, you know, Cap 2 and why those

are important and Tony stealing all of Hydra

or all of Shield's information in the first one

and or in Avengers and stuff like that. I see

how the character of Ultron can become to come

to be in the Marvel Cinematic Universe sans Hank

Pym. But I know that because I know the comic

book origins of the character. And. those are

all such subtle nods they're not like a there

isn't the physical object like the cosmic cube

was in phase one for the audience to follow from

movie to movie to movie like it's it's more in

phase two it's more ambiguous it's more just

people mentioning certain things or talking about

certain things in a certain way that people that

know who Ultron is or what it is it kind of just

cues them in to how that fits into the puzzle

That's something that to me just doesn't seem

very tangible to the mainstream movie audience

But the movies are still good and the mainstream

audience still likes them So Marvel gets to keep

keep telling their story and spinning their yarn.

It just doesn't seem as It's it's clear to me,

but I'm trying to if I look at it from the mainstream

movie audience. It doesn't seem very clear What's

going on? so It'll be interesting. I'm really

interested to see how the Avengers Avengers 2

plays out because holy cow, that movie is going

to the movie is either going to be really fast

paced or really long. I think it's going to be

really long, but I know that they cut 30 minutes

out of the Avengers just to get it to two hours.

So I mean, and we're a year. Year away from that

so I mean good to see what happens All right,

I got one thing I want to throw in here at the

end and then if you want to we can wrap it up

Because we were talking about we brought up a

bit torrent a little bit earlier yeah, we brought

up about how Netflix doesn't always rotate their

content out With like the newest stuff And some

people are kind of you know, there might be paranoid

a bit torrent I understand that torrent can be

scary and this that the other thing I don't can

I do not condone this in any way, but I think

this is really neat Have you heard of the the

project popcorn time? No, okay. I'm gonna put

a link in the show notes You can look at it if

you want or I'll put a link in Skype and you

can look at it if you want You can decide whether

or not you want to put it in your show notes

Okay Or I'll just you know, we're gonna talk

about it on here So if the listeners want to

check it down themselves, it's called popcorn

time it was I can't I don't know who was developed

by what is it? Provides a Netflix style interface

to torrents And it's all like the latest stuff

So for example, you could watch The Winter Soldier

right now at home if you wanted to And I I have

not been able to Figure out exactly how it works

because I do not believe it does not it's not

like a normal torrent It does not download a

file to your computer It streams the file to

your computer and So I like once the episode

is over or once the movie is over the file is

like gone Like you you do not physically download

that file So obviously there's all kinds of like

legal implications behind this and if you're

not worried about that kind of stuff Go ahead

check it out. If you are worried about it. Don't

check it out Obviously the MPAA and some other

things are trying to shut this project down but

it keeps changing websites and it keeps moving

and People keep working like pirate bay. Yes,

but people people keep working on the project

and The app is really slick. It's really easy

to use it presents a Netflix style interface.

I don't know if you've went to the web page for

it or not, but You know, it shows like the cover

art for like The Walking Dead and you click on

that and it asks do you okay what season of the

walking dead do you want to watch and then it

you go to like season three episode one and it

tells you how many healthy torrents there are

out there for it and you select the one with

the most with the most available like cedars

and you click play and the movie starts buffer

the episode starts buffering and then it starts

playing huh it's kind of neat it's kind of neat

kind of scary i can understand why you know um

Television companies don't like it and I can

understand why the MPAA doesn't like it I myself

have not used it. I've shown it to my wife I

think the idea behind it is absolutely crazy

because there's a lot of new movies on there

like a lot Anyways, that's the last thing I wanted

to throw out there popcorn time so I'll probably

try it out I mean, it's I mean, you can just

like load. It's a really small program. You just

load on your computer and just like look at it.

I mean, you don't actually have to stream anything.

You can try streaming something just so you can

see what I'm talking about. But it's neat. So.

Yeah, that's all I got. So. Yeah, as far as I

know, I don't think there's a whole lot of other

stuff going on. I know they've had more Oh my

god casting news for Batman Superman You tell

how enthused I am My my give -a -shit meter is

is very low right now. I mean I still I mean,

I'm I'm rooting for it I mean I haven't I don't

know who I know that they supposedly cast cyborg,

but I didn't bother to look up who they casted

the sub board and I I have a feeling a lot of

these roles are just gonna be like bit roles

and actually I This I kind of got this on out

of a comment section on On a post that I saw

I can't remember what site it was and I don't

know who to credit for but this is not my original

idea the commenter brought up the idea that maybe

DC's approach to their comic book movies, unlike

Marvel's movies where they like they do like

the smaller singular movies and then they have

like the big culmination like Avengers movie,

like they brought they have they theorized about

the idea that what if DC's approach was to make

their movies Justice League movies. And the guy

brought up, he hypothesized that, you know, then

they can just decide, you know, you've got, you

know, this movie needs like Superman and Wonder

Woman and the Flash, but it doesn't need Batman.

And then maybe the next one needs like, you know,

Batman and Green Lantern. And, you know, like

they can use any combination of the characters

they want. There is all like subtitled differently.

So it wouldn't be like Justice League and then

like, you know, Batman a Superman a flash movie.

It would just be like Justice League crisis on

infinite earth or Justice League doom or like

Something like that and they can just cherry

pick what characters they want to have in the

movie Versus doing all these smaller singular

ones which The guy also brought up that it would

allow them to make a movie every two or three

years and they would be big event movies instead

of smaller low -budget movies I could get behind

that. It was a theory that the guy threw out

there and I was kind of like, you know, that

actually makes a little bit of sense. Because

if you make a Batman versus Superman, yeah, everyone's

thinking of it as like Man of Steel 2, but. If

it's Batman versus Superman and you have like

Cyborg and Wonder Woman in there, you don't really

know what kind of story they're like there. They

could just tell a story that. It's just a story.

They could just be telling a story not a continuation

of man of steel You know what I'm saying? Yeah,

so which again, I'd be fine with it. I think

that'd be really neat I mean if there's like

a hint of continuity between the movies, that's

great. But at the same time is there Like I mean

we get like the flashpoint paradox is a story

that they could tell Like how cool would that

be? like a live -action flashpoint paradox or

like a live -action doom or I just think that

they I think they're If that is their approach

which you know getting a site about it probably

means that it's not going to be their approach

But if their approach was just to tell the bigger

group spectacle movies, I Think that'd be a cool

way to go It at least put them on a different

plane. Yeah different. Yeah, exactly playing

field from from Marvel Exactly because otherwise

right now it just I still think Marvel's gonna

mop the floor with them Well, yeah, cuz it appears,

you know on the surface. It appears like they're

trying to compete directly with Marvel But which

they more than likely are right, but if they're

but if they're going down this hypothetical path

Of just making the big event spectacle movies

and telling justice Justice League stories That's

something different, you know I mean, yeah, maybe

you'll get like the Batman Superman Maybe you'll

get those like standalone movies, but at the

same time maybe I'll just get big spectacle movies.

I don't know It was it's just another way to

think about it be interesting to see what you

guys you know the listeners think about that

guy's theory Do you think he's full of crap or

smoking something or do you think he might be

onto something as far as DC's approach or Warner

Brothers approach to their comic book movies

Now mind you on the other hand I have no confidence

in in Warner Brothers as far as How many films

they have or how many characters they have supposedly

showing up in this at this point? Yeah, but but

I I'm still gonna give it a shot because I love

watching a superhero film so it doesn't really

matter I can't really I can't pan I mean Snyder

did pretty good with Watchmen and that was an

ensemble cast and the players in in Watchmen

were Designed to be takeoffs of DC characters

He did alright with that and the Avengers didn't

turn out, you know, I mean I know that Snyder

didn't do Avengers But Avengers is an ensemble

cast and it it didn't turn out poorly. I mean,

I I like Zack Snyder's movies I don't think he

I there's he hasn't done a movie that made me

go. Oh Now parts of it like I like the end individual

vignettes of sucker punch more than I like the

movie as a whole I agree. But, you know, that's

neither here. I mean, he made it awesome. He's

really good at action. I mean, he's proven that

over and over and over again. But so like I and

David Goyer was, you know, he's one of the driving

forces behind Christopher Nolan's Batman movies,

and he's still on board. And I like Man of Steel.

I mean, Snyder proved to me that he can make

a Superman movie. Or at least a Superman movie

that I want to see. So there isn't anything about

Man of Steel 2, or I'm sorry, Batman vs Superman

that I've heard that I haven't liked. And the

fact that Justice League is kind of shooting

back to back with it, and it's Zack Snyder directing

that again, I'm cool with that too. I'm fine

with them doing both. I'm not a huge fan of the

films he's done. but I Man of steel I liked it

for what it was But I don't particularly care

for it and it has nothing to do with though Superman

doesn't kill Because I could care less on that.

I still maintain the fact that Superman did not

kill Clark Kent killed Which is why he has to

adopt the personality of Superman yes to hide

his sins of Being human precisely Makes sense

to me anyway That's something for you guys to

ponder listeners Yes, so um Yeah, if there's

anything you guys want us to bring up I Don't

know I'm toying with after I get my office set

up I'm going to get a nice because of the lighting

in this particular room that my office is I'm

going to set up a green screen and try to, being

that I'll actually have a place to hang it up.

I'm going to try and do that so I can try and

do some video as well. Yay! Yay! So that should

be interesting. I kind of have a question and

then I'll close it out How would you set up your

geek room? If you got to set up an office like

or room more or less I'll have more info when

I get mine set up, but or at least partially

set up All right Everyone gets to play Susie

home decorator. Yeah. Well, I mean not you know

Just I mean, I mean like what kind of stuff would

you put out, you know and for display and Like

I have some movie posters I have some figures

I have Those DVD backer boards that they have

at the DVD stores that are at the old blockbusters

that nobody sees anymore Yes, I have those. I'm

debating putting some of them up on the wall.

All right So I Think that about rounds it out

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