Flash Pilot, Arrow Updates, Big Bang Theory Contract

Hey, this is Steve blue and you are listening

to the geek cast radio network Hello and welcome

to Altered Geek Unlimited Episode 50! I'm your

host, Steve Megatron Phillips, and joining me

this week is... Uh, Mike Powers? And TF2 on Mike.

It's Mike Squared. That's right. So what's going

on this week? In layman's terms. Oh the usual

dealing with internet crap and dealing with neighbor

crap and Had an injured finger so could barely

type for two and a half days did you point at

too many people and no Our buddy Ryan Dross from

star Joe's one of the one of the GCR and partner

podcast said, can't you type with one finger?

I said, yeah, but it would take me nine and a

half hours to write one review. He's like, well,

you know, dedication to the art, no. That's funny.

No. Other than that, not much else really going

on. I wrapped up the underbass pullback crossover

with Lady Rick and Nicole Halestorm and he primed

and all that. In the midst of trying to keep

up with all the SDCC news that I am interested

in So that's what's going on with me For me just

work and You know off -the -cuff stuff mainly

trying to make sure that we all get together

to record an episode every week and Some other

stuff that we'll talk about later on the episode

that's got me excited But don't have to cover

that right now. Sounds good. What about you?

I've been finishing up some things on my house.

Getting it close for the housewarming. Not this

weekend, but next weekend. And then. My job has

been hellaciously busy lately, so. There is that

Yeah, everyone come back next week for episode

51 Yeah Yeah, we don't have the guts to go 1

,250 years in the future It's pretty good time

travel though it was What happens when you use

the DeLorean is very accurate. I'm like a police

box Got to see my own death I watched it on demand.

Do you guys ever use any of those Facebook death

game things that they have on there? Nope. Where

it predicts when you're... I do every now and

then just to get a laugh to see what it says

and mostly to see how long it thinks I'll live

and one of them was like I'll live till 2077.

See I use Facebook to bait people. into conversations.

Like I will intentionally post something on there

that I know will get certain people to engage

in conversation with me. But other than that,

I just go on there to see what other people are

doing, but I don't do any of the games. I don't

click on anything. I primarily live in the social

network of Twitter. Unless there are people that

I'm trying to engage with that aren't on. Twitter

then it's like I'll just go on here and post

this and see if I get any hits Usually I do Yeah,

I pretty much live in in Twitter land as well

I Just like I for me it's just all about the

Twitter's way easier to consume on a phone than

on in the in the computer and There's you know

little to no ads to discourage you from what

you're trying to get at to distract you with

anything so it's way easier to consume like you

know 12 hours worth of news than it is to look

at a facebook feed which all the information

in a facebook feed is it's not first of all it's

not given to it's not presented to you in the

order that it was posted yeah not unless you

Not unless you select it that way but even if

you select it that when you leave and you come

back it defaults You have to like continually

put it back to that setting like if you could

change that so the most recent story was always

the The one that you saw like I would probably

use it more But the way it is like it automatically

goes back to most popular story or whatever it

is which is crap Yes, you know Facebook and their

ads because I mainly use it on a desktop PC.

It's like I just ignore half of the ads. I think

the one thing I use more on Facebook than I do

on Twitter is the trending, because Facebook

had it for a while, they took it away, and now

it's back, and sometimes I'll use that, but they

really need to have the most recent only instead

of top posts, and get rid of suggested posts,

like seriously. Having a suggested post in my

news feed... That I have that I have never even

said that I want in there. That's just dumb.

Yeah. But yeah, like I said, just for me, though,

it's all about just being able to consume the

media as fast as I can. And I don't know, just

Facebook. I mean, Facebook's not so bad on my

phone either because it kind of looks similar

to Twitter. But again, the information is not

presented to you in most recent stuff. Like you'll

see like two recent things and then it'll be

like all stuff from like the day before. Yeah,

and then when you like if you scroll down far

enough you might find more new stuff from like

the current day But it's like this is just not

that's not how I choose to consume everything

so Three years from now Disney will buy Google

will buy Facebook and Twitter and it'll all be

under a mouse. Oh No Google's not gonna be Google

will buy everybody else for something buys Google

Skynet Yeah, Google probably will turn into Skynet.

Did you hear they wrote a robots clause so that

if there ever is robots, it'll keep their CEOs

safe? God. Pretty funny gag. It sounds like something

Zuckerberg would do with Facebook, not necessarily

Google. He hides in the US government, so he's

fine. Anyways, I think we should take a quick

break and come back with some media news And

we're back so what would you guys like to cover

first TV tech miscellaneous Given that our fan

base is actually kind of small I've seen the

flash. You have? I watched the pilot tonight.

Where is that at? A little place called BitTorrent.

Ah. Yeah, I can put it in Dropbox. Anyways, that

would be cool. I liked it. It's a lot lighter

show than Arrow is. It's not as dark, which I

thought was to be expected because the Flash

is a very different hero, in my opinion, than

Arrow is. So I was OK with it being a lighter

show. It was funnier given that was a pilot.

It was kind of some edits or cuts transitions

felt a little abrupt and scenes didn't quite

flow from one to the other. There's a real cool

like, you know, cameo from Arrow in it. And then

I Know it was it was just a good origin story.

They set up a whole bunch of stuff like they

open the entire Whereas arrow doesn't really

deal with superpowers to any extent Flash is

gonna be all about the superpowers nice and bring

in some more of the fantastical elements of the

DC universe Don't want to spoil anything because

like I said, I'll put it in a place where you

guys can catch it, too And maybe we can talk

about it next week Sounds good When is that actually

supposed to air on TV October? No September Okay,

September or October is when it starts but it's

it seems like it's gonna be pretty good they

they borrowed a Thing that I kind of liked from

BBC Sherlock because they were trying to show

how intelligent he is So they have when he's

investigating something like text gets overlaid

on the on the screen as to what's going on in

his head. Diagrams will show up so that you can

see what he's thinking and how he's viewing the

scene. But they only do that once. So I don't

know if it's something they're going to keep

doing. But they've definitely set this one up

for like the long haul. It hits the ground running.

There's a whole bunch of like plot threads dropped.

Yeah. Pun intended, right? But it's not like

Arrow where there's a whole bunch of setup because

it's a spinoff of Arrow. It's already started.

This world's already started. So it's just like,

right, because the setup already happened in

Arrow season two. Right. But you get that you

get the setup again in the pilot, but it's edited

into the context of the show. And they just immediately

start throwing out plot threats to follow for

the entire season. Awesome. Instead of like,

you know a couple of episodes introducing characters

and stuff like that and then like plot threads

coming off of that It's just one show and here's

all these plot threads that we can follow So

it's it's it's gonna be fun. And I know that

there's a couple crossover episodes in the first

In the first well in season three of arrow and

season one of flash. There's I think this is

there's at least two So that's good to look forward

to Yeah, I'm slowly keeping an eye on both Hulu

and Netflix to see when arrow season 2 pops up

So I can actually catch up before season 3 I

think I think arrow will pop up on Netflix in

late September October probably You know, once

I catch up with that, I'll keep up with Arrow

again, because one of the reasons why I stopped

watching Arrow, like after the second episode

of Season 2, was because there was other stuff

on Wednesdays that I was watching that my DVR

said, no, you can't record two programs, or three

programs at once, and all this and all that,

and I was just like, oh, I'll go back to it.

But I am very interested in The Flash, and I

actually cannot wait to see that. Other tidbit

I could throw in about TV after we got done watching

the flash my wife wanted to watch girl meets

world I will never be watching this show again

No, I I'm not I can't really like speak to it.

It's just it was way too like Sweet for me like

I I guess I have to go back and watch like some

boy meets world because I have all of that right

now like I have it all in DVD I want to watch

that like the first episode of that to see how

it compares the first episode of girl meets world

because for some reason boy meets world doesn't

come out as like bubbly or as like like sugary

well they gave it more of a girlish tone in girl

meets world whereas boy meets world it's got

more of the boy tone to it but it's there's a

lot of similarities in the season one of boy

meets world to this Just feel like it was It

was way too sugary and even my wife said it was

like she's like we could shut this off at any

point in time Because she's like this is like

way too much even for me So I I'm not I can't

I'm not gonna speak to whether it's like a good

TV show or a bad TV show But it's definitely

not something that I can watch. I will say that

it's supposed to get more deep And more focused

as it goes along in season one Kind of is going

that way already. We've had three episodes there

so far. We've had the premiere. We've had Girl

Meets Boy and Girl Meets Sneak Attack. By the

third episode, Riley is more okay with being

friends with Lucas than she is about being boy

crazy over him. The beginning, the first episode

is very raw because one, you can tell she's a

new actress. And two, it's obviously there's

things thrown in that are meant to hook the Boy

Meets World fans, but then it's also got that

kind of odd feel to it. So it's kind of a weird

beast. But as more of the Boy Meets World cast

start jumping back in, more or less, it's going

to start evening out. I've read some of the plot

lines. Through the season So it's it's gonna

get a little bit more Closer to the boy meets

world vibe the further season one gets Well,

like I said, it's not something I'm gonna I can't

like speak good or bad about it It's just not

something that I'm gonna be able to watch And

I wasn't even I download because my wife wanted

me to download it I didn't download it because

I wanted to check it out because I it's on the

Disney Channel. There's There was almost like

90 % certainty. It was gonna be something that

I wasn't gonna be able to stand But I can't,

like I said, I'm not going to speak to whether

it's good or bad, it's just something that I

can't watch. Since you are talking about Disney

Channel, and since this episode comes right before

this premiere on Disney Channel, will you guys

be checking out at any time Phineas and Ferb

Star Wars? Nope, I hate Phineas and Ferb, so...

That looks really cool. The basic jest of it

is they take... Episode 4 and Phineas and Ferb

it up where it's Phineas and Ferb live next door

to Luke It looks really cool, I'm not a fan of

the show so nope Anyways wait a minute this story

that you've got here about supernatural that

might be where I jump off that show Why? I hate

musicals. Like with a passion. I have to agree

with you. The other thing, there's two things

I can't stand when shows kind of break the, like

I mean this show, it's broken the third wall

before it's done all kinds of goofy stuff. I

mean they've had reasonable explanations in the

strange world of Supernatural. However, there's

only been a couple of episodes I've not been

able to stomach up to this point, and I think

this will be one of them too, the musical one.

It's the ones where they have the... Chronicles,

the movie? Where it's, you know, everything is

from the first -person camera perspective. Like

they're running with the camera. Oh, yeah. I

know what you're talking about I can't stand

those type of episodes because I just don't like

the film style, right? So when they did that

a couple times in supernatural, I I just shut

it off. Mm -hmm I just hope it's not it's not

good. It couldn't possibly be a story episode.

I Think it's gonna be total horse crap. I just

wonder when that's going to be in this 200th

episode. I Don't know how far off they are to

200 though That's easy enough to find out. But

the other thing that's kind of strange about

it is like the whole dynamic they set up in the

previous season. I think it's kind of too little,

too late for that kind of thing. I'm going to

say it's all going to be in the context of how

it's done, and it's not going to be a story episode.

It's going to be a monster of the week episode,

which is going to make it completely throw away,

which is just fine. Which means I don't have

to watch it. Exactly. So Hmm So Gotham is adding

more people that are gonna be old by the time

Batman comes around yeah, only one of them makes

sense though They added Hugo strange and two

-face like two -face is supposed to be pretty

much the same age as Bruce Wayne because it's

Harvey Den They're supposed to be friends Now

are they having Harvey Dent are they adding two

-face like that's my question like is this was

like a headline grab I? Think it might be Okay.

I personally would have a problem with it if

it was Two -Face instead of Harvey Dent. I want

to see a 12 year old Bruce Wayne like scar up

Harvey Dent. Yeah, they're talking about Harvey

Dent. Okay. They used it as a headline grab.

I'm fine with that then. But as long as he starts

out as kind of a kid or like a year or two older

than Bruce, that's fine, but it kind of throw

it off if he's older. Hugo Strange should totally

be the high school psychiatrist And he starts

twisting around all these people that eventually

become Batman's rogue gallery, oh that'd be great

Sitting like Hannibal kind of you know twist

in their minds from the inside out We jump from

Flash but you know we came back. We're coming

back around to arrow that arsenal shot Today

was pretty cool. What do you think about that?

Finally Yes, I mean I've hated Roy's character

in the show I think he's been one of the weakest

links In in season 2 it really became apparent

that they didn't know what to do with him Because

they gave him the well, I don't know yeah, I

was gonna say I don't know how Mike feels about

spoilers But he was pretty much out for you know

Maybe like a third of season two Because they

just didn't know what to do with his character.

At least I felt like they didn't know what to

do with this character Seemed like it they just

here. Let's put him unconscious for a while I

was like it's like let's give him the mirror

crew and then it's like well We don't really

know what to do with the mirror crew So we'll

just knock him out and Then we'll like you know

take you know five episodes and develop a cure

and they'll cure him and now he's arsenal I Just

hope he's not like the badass archer that Oliver

is I hope he's more like street thug ish Which

I hope he's more like how speedo speedy was I

know it's not speedy. I know it's arsenal, but

I've seen them call him Red Arrow in this. I

know he's going to be called Arsenal, but I hope

it's more like his Young Justice kind of personality,

where he's really snarky and really flipping

towards Green Arrow. He's that way anyways. He's

already that way. He's always been that way.

I just I'm thinking just I don't think he's he's

not trained, so I'm hoping that still stays to

be like, you know, the course. And I guess that

is. He has other like weapons built into his

costume like he has Combat sticks in his boots

to fight with and stuff. So when he loses his

bow, he's not disarmed So I know like the way

the suit looks Kind of looks similar to arrows,

but it looks Enough different besides the color.

I Will say this When arrow showed up in the flash,

he did not have a different suit which is to

be expected I guess since they shot that That

pilot was actually, I wouldn't be surprised if

that pilot was actually supposed to be an episode

of Arrow. Is it just me or is the pilot teaser

too long? It seems like the five -minute teaser

that they put out was the entire show for the

pilot. Yes, more or less. But at the same time,

when you see that five -minute teaser like there's

stuff in there that you kind of cringe at that

doesn't really you might cringe at that you're

like oh that's kind of hokey or that's kind of

this that or the other thing but when you see

it in like 45 minutes it it kind of plays out

pretty well um i didn't find like stuff that

i found that looked cheesy in the the five minute

teaser that they put out i didn't have an issue

with in the pilot so um Trying to think if there's

any other TV stuff I want to talk about I Talk

about the strain last week Steve. I Don't think

so You weren't yeah I Caught the first episode

of Guillermo del Toro's strain on FX It's too

early for me to make a call on that and if i'm

repeating myself from last week I apologize listeners,

but it's still too early for me to make a call

on that I have to I was going to try and watch

the second episode but it hasn't gone up yet

so Because I usually give a show a two episode

shake To see if it actually gets me or not, but

the first episode kind of left me feeling not

too great about it so That's all I got as far

as tv goes because I don't Think I've watched

anything else For me I normally don't talk about

these because I really don't pay attention to

a lot of the oh the cast hasn't arrived yet or

oh Contract disputes blah blah blah normally

I don't pay attention to that but I noticed today

they put out a story about the Big Bang Theory

that the show comes back October 31st and Right

now there are no contracts for the cast because

they're still in negotiations with CBS because

they want Friends type money as far as that goes

the shows seven seasons in I don't blame them

for asking for more money Actually what surprised

more surprises more surprising to me is that

CBS ordered more seasons without having a contract

first I see that's the thing I thought I'm like

wait don't they already have contracts if there's

you know some rumor rumored ten seasons gonna

happen Like, it seems like they put the cart

before the horse. I want to know how that one

worked out. Someone's got to be slamming their

head against the desk somewhere. Well, and the

fact is, is all of the cast wants a raise. Yeah,

but I think this is something that will come

through because there was something like someone

similar kind of started to happen. What was it?

In between like Avengers. like Thor 2 like some

stuff started happening like with the like Chris

Evans and oh my gosh Chris Hemsworth like wanting

more money for their role and like Robert Downey

jr. like standing beside them to get them more

money for their roles right I mean stuff like

this happens like all the time and yeah it'll

cut it'll come together at the last second It's

what they're doing is they're just playing like.

But see, I don't I CBS doesn't seem to be in

a position where they can actually like. I don't

think CBS can play chicken, you know, I feel

like they're in that position where it's like

we just have to give them what they want. Because

they're the ones I was thinking, because they're

the ones who just walk away and CBS is left without

a show. And that's one of their big moneymakers.

I I don't see how you. Don't see what leverage

CBS has in this situation Yeah, I honestly don't

know I honestly think that they have to give

it to them. I mean Other than syndication. There's

not really I Mean they can cancel the show I

mean they could but they could also recast with

new people one But both of those options hurt

themselves and I say that is that I'm not a fan

of Big Bang Theory But I know I know how popular

it is but that Either one of those hurts CBS

that does not help help them like that's not

leverage on their part Because those all those

actors probably have enough money to just go

and sit and do nothing for forever Or go back

into obscurity, which is where they came from

But well now wait a second here. I don't know

about going back into obscurity There are only

two of them that were actually in stuff before

and I only know one of them that was in something

before There are three actually Johnny Galecki

who Miami Alec I only know the one that was in

Roseanne. That's Johnny Galecki. I don't know

anybody else in that show. And I knew Kaylee

only from that 8 Simple Rules, but I only saw

it at the beginning. I didn't really watch it.

And my ambialic is from Blossom from the 90's.

Which I never watched. Yep. Don't know it's like

it's weird that this entire thing is like popping

up because like we said they announced ten You

know three more seasons and now we find out they

didn't have a contract for any of it and they

have no leverage So I'm trying to figure out

where the heck they're there must be some they

must have some leverage that we don't know about

but must be some behind -the -scenes studio thing

and You know producer pulled on his pants and

they're like, oh we'll release this if you don't

give us more money Stuff we don't know about.

That's funny. What happens behind closed doors

on CBS stays on CBS. Oh, that's nasty. Can't

broadcast that system. That's what she said.

All right, let's stop talking about TV. Can't

touch this. All right. Have you seen the stuff

on the Build your own do -it -yourself smart

home I've been following the smart home stuff

for a couple of years Mainly I've been following

like the nest products But I haven't seen like

this Loof within the last like 12 months a whole

bunch of stuff is like showing up on the market

I haven't been able to keep up with any of it

But My understanding is now everybody has something

like Apple's getting into it. Google's getting

into it. Samsung is getting into it. Lowe's is

getting into it. Everybody. Yeah. Oh, I know

Comcast offers something too. And so does AT

&T. I mean, all this stuff interests me, but

at the same time, it's like I'm really if I was

going to do any of it, it'd be really peculiar

about it like. Not specifically speaking to the

story that you've got here but just the the smart

home in general one of the things that kind of

Turned me on to the whole thing was There was

I think it's the guy that helped design the iPod

for Apple he he left and he founded a company

called nest and their their mission statement

was to take the most mundane products in your

home and make them user -friendly and update

them for modern times. The first thing they did

was a smart thermostat, which they call it a

learning thermostat. You don't have to program

it. It learns when you are home and when you're

not. There's a motion sensor on it. So if it

senses like movement it knows that somebody's

home and it will keep the temperature like set

to wherever you want it to be set at When you're

when you leave the house you set it to have like,

you know You can set it so like when you're sleeping

or when you're away from your home, maybe you

want you want it to be cooler So you're not like

in the winter you can turn it down so it's a

little bit cooler instead of keeping it warm

like all the time It's like when you're sleeping

and it doesn't sense movement in the house anymore.

It will automatically lower the temperature And

then over time when you get up in the morning

And it senses that you're moving around over

time. It will learn When you're getting up and

what days you're getting up and it will start

preheating your house So your house is warmer

when you get up and you start walking around

And then, of course, it also sends push notifications

to your phone, and it will tell you how much

energy you're using, how much energy you're saving.

You can control your thermostat from your phone.

So if you're away or you're on your way home

from work, you can tell it that you're on your

way home in a hot summer day. You can say, start

cooling off my house so it's cool when I get

home. And they just added this crazy integration.

It's called IFTTT. Think it is if this then that

is what it's called And they tied it in with

like that through that little automatic dongle.

I had for my car That would tell me like where

I was driving and how I was driving talked about

a long time ago. Yeah, anyways They added integration

with that so you set up like this whole thing

and so when you start driving home The automatic

thing when you start driving towards your home

will trigger an if this then that rule and it

will tell Nest that you're driving home and will

automatically start cooling your house for you.

So you don't have to do any of that stuff. I

like smart stuff. And then and then they came

out with the only Nest product I have in my house.

Like my wife won't let me get the thermostat

because one it's a really expensive thermostat,

but she won't let me get the thermostat because

we don't have air conditioning. So it doesn't

really benefit us like It doesn't benefit us

all year round. It would only benefit us in the

winter But I the one product that they did come

out with that I actually have is there a smoke

alarm And their claim to fame with the with the

smoke alarm is that it talks to you So instead

of just like beeping at you incessantly like

if there's like smoke in the house It will tell

you it'll be like if you're cooking and you burn

the toast or you start burning something It will

tell you it says we sense there's like we sense

it'll be like there's smoke in such -and -such

area and you can like wave at it and It'll see

that you're waving at it. And that's like the

okay not to trigger the alarm Because you're

there to say like oh I burnt my food you don't

need to you know Beep at me constantly and set

the alarm off Yeah. Which is kind of neat. And

then the other thing, they're all networked over

your over your Wi -Fi. So if you have a large

house because you're supposed to have like a

properly smoke alarms in a home, you're supposed

to have them like in every room, but like the

kitchen and the basement in the garage, I think.

So only three rooms in the house, you're not

supposed to have a smoke alarm. But what you

can do is if you have a lot of money and you

have a big house You can put the smoke alarm

in every house and you can designate that smoke

alarm You know that you can say this smoke alarm

is in the bedroom and this smoke alarm is in

well You can say it's like in the kids bedroom

and this one's in the master bedroom and this

one's in the family room yada yada yada And what

will happen is let's say you're in the family

room and you're you know watching TV at night

The alarm will go off in the family room. It'll

say alert. There is smoke in like the kids room

So instead of like just like blaring alarms at

you and not knowing where stuff is happening

It will say if there's smoke in the kids bedroom

and you can get up and you can go and check it

off I mean in the alarm will still trigger. I

mean it it will there is an alarm to the thing

So like if you're sleeping But it will also it

will try and talk to you and tell you where stuff

is happening as well as sounding an alarm But

it but I'm yeah, I'm I've been following this

stuff I haven't really been following the big

guy stuff. I haven't really looked at Google

stuff, although Google bought Nest. So that's

something. All this smart house talk reminds

me of those old tech savory cartoons. And yeah,

the house of the future, where a couple of mice

go into this house of the future and it's all

these newfangled things and automatic sweepers

and everything else. It's really funny. Yep Wonder

how many people I just lost by talking about

thermostats and smoke alarms Now let's talk about

a flux capacitor I Put that in there mostly for

you Yeah, even though you don't drive Yeah, no

goes into the lighter spot and it's got like

USB ports on it but it's a it looks like a flux

capacitor and lights up and It's a car charger.

I'll tell you what I want from my car. It's back

to the future related. That's why I bring it

up. Because the antenna on my car is like it's

on the roof, you know, and it's like short and

stubby. I want to make a custom antenna that

is the hook that they put on the DeLorean at

the end of the back to the future. Nice. And

put that up there. I thought that'd be funny

because I have an electric car. And you got to

put Mr. Fusion on the back. No. Don't have a

hover car true, you know, you can't have mr.

Fusion without a hover car No, mr. Fusion's always

been there but even before the no car wasn't

it was not it was plutonium in the first one

Oh, that's right. Then he went to the future

and when it became a hover car he had mr. Fusion

and that's why he stuffed trash in Yep That's

part of the hover conversion It gets rid of waste

They don't need trash and we're going we don't

have trash except they land in an alley full

of it. I know That's the funny thing about it.

Everywhere else is clean but the alleys All right,

I Thought this was kind of neat about windows

9 that's coming out next year Besides the fact

that they added the start menu back to some capacity

they're not going to have separate versions anymore,

like Windows Phone, Windows 8, and Windows RT.

Yeah, I'll believe that one when I see it. Well,

I guess this new CEO is pretty gung -ho on unifying

everything instead of having... Mean they're

still gonna have like the home and the pro and

the enterprise version but Lord of like they

always do with Windows, but it's it's not they're

gonna it's gonna be the same version of Windows

that's scalable to phone and tablet and desktop

I Don't know I don't know I'm glad I don't I

don't deal with that crap I'm sure I will I can't

wait to see how much they I can't wait to see

how much they charge for it You know, they would

be smart if they did like the Apple way of operating

system updates gave it away for free That or

like a $50 upgrade Well, I see that's the thing

the upgrade for Windows is always cheap But it's

when you want the full version so you can install

it, you know Wherever you want. That's when they're

like it's $400 go screw yourself Yeah, I paid

$100 for Windows 7 Home Edition Oh yeah? When

I bought it a year ago. I torrented it. I...

I would have. I torrented it because I put it

on the bootcamp partition on my Mac. And I only

use it when I want to play certain games. So

it's not something that I have to interact with

on a daily basis. But I haven't had any problems

getting any updates for it. So it must have been

a pretty good pirated version. And it doesn't

have a bunch of like... It doesn't have any of

those like... weird things that you get where

it's like they have like the the cracked key

generators like are built into it and they have

like the skulls and all that stuff like i haven't

seen any of that stuff on there it's like it's

like it might as well just be genuine windows

but i've always been on the lookout to like pay

for a version of windows but it's like always

like way too expensive and now it's like way

more expensive especially when you compare stuff

to like os 10 which is now free as long as you

have a mac obviously But I just I don't know

I've never actually paid for a version of Windows

Well, I thought anything is a shooter to get

Windows 7 well Windows 7 was the first one I

actually bought I had a XP edition that was like

the first edition of XP Which meant every time

I wiped out my system. I had to put three went

service packs My dad gave it to me after he ever

worked on somebody's computer Okay, and They

didn't need it anymore. They bought a different

version of Windows and so he gave it to me and

So I had that up until about a year ago when

I updated my computer and put Windows 7 on and

Have a look back Not looking forward either Windows

9 sounds alright, I hate a Going back just a

bit, I just found this out. Season 10 episode

5 is the 200th episode, so they are not far off

for Supernatural. Thanks for letting me know

which episode not to watch. You're welcome. I'm

sure the rest of the internet would tell you

as well. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure the week of. What's

next, Steve? what's next um well weird al topped

the billboard 200 for the first time yay i'm

actually kind of surprised yeah i think i am

too because i feel like the last time he was

like relevant to me was like 2004 I don't even

know what CD that was. It came out in 2004. That

was like the last time he was like, I'm pretty

sure he's had CDs between then and now, but like

that was like the last time he was even relevant

to me. That's the last time I remember going

with a friend to like buy one of his CDs. I haven't

bought a CD since the 90s of anything. I've boughten

four actual physical CDs since November. And

I bought them from Best Buy I think I talked

about I think I talked about this on off the

cuff It was a pain in the butt to find them in

the store Well CDs are pretty much Gone anymore

anywhere you go. Yeah. Well, I mean I go to Best

Buy for it and like they've got like a Shelving

section like a row of shells like the front side

of a shelf in the backside and that's like their

CD section so it was like really hard to find

like even like the newest stuff was like Super

hard to find there and even when I found it I

automatically took out my phone I compared it

to the price on iTunes and I'm like I just spent

like 45 minutes looking for what this CD And

they're in charge of 12 bucks for it when I can

get it on iTunes like I could have gotten an

iTunes 45 minutes ago for like 10 bucks But at

the same time I'm also like well then I then

I'd have to burn it to a CD to listen to it in

my car You know first world problems here, right?

Right, but I mean I really funny because that's

one of weird Al songs But I I mean I still bought

them because I spent all that time looking for

them I was like, okay finals frickin buy them

But because I was just gonna burn a CD of them

Anyways, if I gotten it off iTunes, this is gonna

burn a CD and throw it in my car So might as

well already had the CD burn for me. I Buy CDs

every now and then like if it if it's not on

iTunes, then I have to go find the CD I will

say that I'm not too thrilled with how some of

the distribution is on certain albums. Like some

albums will have exclusive tracks in everything.

It'll have two tracks in iTunes, six tracks in

Amazon. It'll do the DVD thing, different stores

or even the game DLC packs or character packs.

It'll be like, oh, pre -order here, you can get

this. With one of my favorite bands, Blackstone

Cherry, they had a two bonus tracks but it was

a best buy only and that was earlier this year

that I bought that but it was just it was so

crazy because I had already listened to the album

because they had put it out on streaming uh beforehand

and the two tracks that are bonus tracks on the

CD don't fit in with the other 13 tracks on the

album yeah that happens sometimes because it's

like they it feels almost like they made those

two tracks just for that bonus content Mm -hmm.

So. Nope. It's crazy. How about, um, Batfleck's

costume at SDCC? Yay. Finally, we see a costume.

But we saw the costume, like, months ago. Well,

I mean, I'm just glad to see it, see the cowl

more or less up close. And then, of course, they

released the image with him actually, his mugshot.

Oh, okay. The one thing that I immediately thought

when I saw that is he can no longer turn his

head again. That's what I thought, too. That's

like the first shot they show with him sitting

next to the Batmobile. There was at least. But

again, don't really know what material material

it's made out of. But I'm getting like this.

The one thing I don't want to see from my batcowl

is the what would happen when Adam West would

turn his head, which is like one side of it would

like bunch up. and like pull away from his face.

Like, I don't want to see that happen with, you

know, you know, Zack Snyder's Batman. And I feel

like if he turns his head, that's what this suit

is going to do, unless it's made of like some

space age material that we don't know about.

Either that or he just can't turn his head again,

which is a freaking step backwards and seems

like an easy way to get your neck broken. I think

it almost be like. Like a combination of the

Dark Knight rises or Dark Knight Helmet where

it's separate yeah, and then have you know the

cowl go right up and underneath or the the neck

piece go right up underneath the the helmet But

it doesn't look like that now like no it looks

like it's all one piece So I mean it'll be interesting

to see what happens, but yeah, it's it's another

it's another picture They still haven't shown

it in any kind of like color what? actually is

it black it is black okay all right so it is

not blue that's kind of that is mildly disappointing

to me but it's not like a dark blue for a dark

a dark dark blue yeah that's what i was hoping

in the gray yep now the only thing that'll save

this costume now as far as color for me is if

they make the rest of the costume gray i think

the rest is gray because there was a there's

a definite uh tonal shift in the two there are

two definite colors present in that suit and

i don't think it's like black and like darker

black i think it's like gray and black but i

think the bat symbol on the chest is still black

or gray i hope that the symbol is black but the

rest of it's gray i'm gonna go try and find those

shots from the bat Yeah, I think it's I the suits

great. I think that bat symbols either probably

gonna be a darker gray. It's not the same shade

as the cowl Look could be I don't know Anyways,

yeah, so Batman Is anybody going to well, I don't

know who actually has this channel of the me

out of the out of you guys, but FX has been making

this huge deal about a certain Longest running

cartoon show having the longest running marathon

ever next month The Simpsons is gonna have all

of its episodes aired on a back -to -back multi

-day marathon on FXX I like this. I think it's

cool that they're doing this You know, I'm not

a Simpsons fan to each their own. I think it's

cool because you can actually check it out whatever

day you want to and find episodes you may like

or that you may remember from the good old days.

The other Simpson story I found this week was

apparently some guy in New Zealand or somewhere

apparently is obsessed with Homer Simpson. He

has nothing but Homer Simpson's tattoos all over

his body. That's just sad. Like, I like Transformers

and I like Batman, but I would not do that. What

do we think of Robert Downey Jr. weighing in

on Iron Man 4? It's about money. That's what

it's always about with any movie. You more or

less just said that. I feel like... Most of the

articles I saw about this were them complaining

about him once they got around to doing like

an Iron Man 4, him being in like his 60s. But

the guy does not look like he's in his 50s. I

mean, he can look like that, but he doesn't look

like he's in his 50s. Like, I don't think he

looks like he's in his 50s. He looks like he's

in his early to mid 40s at most. I would say

like mid 40s. Who knows? That's how I that's

how I see him. But at the same time, like and

I could be like way off the mark here and I could

be mixing up my actors, but I don't really feel

like I am. James Spader, the guy from Blacklist,

he is Ultron in Age of Ultron. Yeah, but I just

watched a well and trying to pass the time at

work on Saturday. I watched a movie that he did

in 1999 called Supernova. and he looks like super

young in that movie and that was only like 15

years ago and My understanding is that Robert

Downey jr. And him are friends and they're pretty

close in age But man did spader let himself go

Well, I know compared like compared to Downey

Like I because he it's it's like it's like I

was like, whoa, that's that's that cannot be

the same guy So it's really interesting like

the two actors like coming up in Hollywood It's

like one made maybe we got by because he had

money and the other one didn't have like the

money to that I don't know what the stories could

possibly be It's just it's just interesting that

you know, you have two guys and they could look

so completely different from each other I guess

it goes to say that you could make you know Robert

Downey jr. Look old but the fact that he's he

may be in his 60s by the time he plays that role

like that just means to me he'll look like he's

in his 50s for once maybe um so it's just going

to come down to money i mean they have plenty

of release dates where they could do an iron

man 4 and marvel's doing and marvel's doing nothing

but printing money right now um so i don't know

i i don't know what i want to see um I have an

Iron Man 4, but I know for sure I'd see it because

I know if it's a Marvel Studios movie, I will

like 100 % go see it. Since we're on the Marvel

topic, let me ask you guys, what do you think

about them giving release dates to all these

as of yet titled productions? I'm okay with it

because they're doing something... Marvel Studios

is doing something completely different in my

opinion and completely unprecedented in the movie.

world like until they came like around which

is they have they have a very clear path and

a very clear direction and they They just have

a string of hits and I've seen what more than

one critics say that You know if guardians opens

at number one, which you know it will If guardians

opens at number one and it stays never like it

and it crushes Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles,

which it probably will they that is Marvel pretty

much has carte blanche to do whatever they want

that means I can put on like they just put a

talking raccoon and a tree that says three lines

on screen before we got Wonder Woman and people

still went to go see that damn movie and it's

characters that really nobody knows anything

about like and if it's still number one like

First week and possibly the second week that's

Marvel is it's just gonna prove that they can

just put anything up on screen now It has to

quality don't get me wrong like they could still

make a bad movie and it would like tarnish their

reputation Like I'm not saying they can just

release garbage but I'm saying Marvel could Marvel

is getting more a lot more brave with the stuff

that they're willing to put on screen and Especially,

you know, they're doing Guardians and then they're

gonna do Doctor Strange Which is gonna bring

magic in which I thought Thor was supposed to

do but Thor opened up the cosmic realm for Guardians

So The Marvel well Marvel movies are all based

off of comics. They're really all just genre

films That are coming out of the same studio.

So it's not really and they cross over with each

other and they're connected So it's not really

all that different than like I like it like a

It's like a really broad stroke here, but it's

not really all that different than like a Dreamworks

animation type thing Where you've got they make

a bunch of different animated movies, and they're

all in different genres but they're still all

computer animated movies and Like Marvel is just

they're making different genre movies, but they

have like the stable of characters to do that

So I don't feel like we're getting I don't feel

like they think they're making comic book movies.

I feel like they think they're making genre movies

and It might in in my and I've also heard from

phage the The head of Marvel Studios. He said

that their plan is like one new movie and a sequel

every year Right, which to me that is even that's

a lot better because not only do you get a sequel

to a successful franchise? Are you to build on

a franchise? You're still not getting old because

you're giving the audience something new. Yep.

Just like the everything that happened in the

last month with that movie just kind of has me

like. I don't I don't. Which movie? Ant Man.

Oh, like I just don't know. how to feel about

that, especially after the guy that was Edgar

Wright, who was going to direct it, put almost

10 years of his life in pre -production into

that movie. And to get up and walk away from

the table over some dispute with Marvel, which

no one's really saying what it was, right before

they were getting ready to start shooting, something

happened there and I feel like enough people

didn't... Stand up with him. I guess I And there

was like a lot of like tweets and stuff like

Joss Whedon Like posted a picture like, you know

poor went out for your fallen comrade or whatever

but in my opinion it speaks a lot more volume

if you would abandon Avengers 2 like if you're

gonna sit there like show support for this guy

like Maybe you should have like you're the director

of their biggest franchise. Why not? You know

throw your weight around You know, yeah, you

take a hike and see what happens Well, the last

time Whedon threw his weight around, that I know

of, Angel got fast -tracked and got cancelled.

Well, but this is different. No, I know it's

different, but I'm just saying the last time

that I remember hearing of Whedon throwing his

weight around about something, you know, that's

when... Angel didn't technically get cancelled,

it ended, but it's just one of those things where

it didn't get picked up for that sixth season

that he wanted. Right. Well, I don't mean to

sound like an idiot here, if that's what most

people think. I mean, I understand, like, stuff

happens behind the scenes that we don't know

about, and maybe it was a completely amicable

decision, you know, but something happened, but

nobody's saying what it was, and it's very weird

for a director that was in, you know, pre -production

for as long as he was to exit the product. project

right before they were going to start filming

and It's I think Dan has said this before he

likes when a director is able to do something

original like which is what he liked about Iron

Man 3 and I didn't really care for it and I feel

like you know, maybe that's what Edgar Wright

was going to do but Marvel said that they weren't

afraid of what Edgar Wright was going to put

on screen and You know, it's like it's one of

those things where we just said they just put

a talking raccoon in a tree On screen. So what

about Ant -Man could possibly have made them?

You know second -guess a directorial decision

if that's in fact what happened all of us is

like conjecture on my part. I just feel like

I feel like if it was such like a tight -knit

family and like there was that respect among

like the directors that You know, especially

since Joss Whedon supposed to be like the guy

at the top of the food chain That's what I'm

saying like if he's the guy at the top of the

food chain He's like I feel like even though

he's like, you know trying to show solidarity

and like, you know posting like, you know solidarity

pictures like on Twitter and stuff like that

It's kind of like put your money where your mouth

is man. Put your foot down You're the dirt. You

are at the helm of their largest franchise Plus

you have like the nerds like but wrapped around

your finger like if you were to stand up and

Like throw your weight around right now with

Avengers 2 pretty sure the rest of the internet

would get up and rally around you as well Yeah,

I pretty much but he didn't do that. So it's

kind of like a backhanded compliment, you know,

it's like oh, I'm sorry You got kicked out I

feel really bad for you But I'm gonna sit over

here and collect my fat paycheck from Marvel

because I'm doing what they told me to do Yeah

Still excited for Avengers 2 just want to say

that Oh yeah, absolutely. I'm excited for all

the Marvel movies that I know the characters

in. I think it was a number of AGUs back, but

I had said at one point on this show that I had

not seen the very first Guardians of the Galaxy

trailer. Because I don't know the characters,

I just don't have any interest. Since then, I've

seen the trailers. I saw that original trailer.

I like it. But it's not something I'm willing

to go to the theater for. I I know you hated

this movie, you know, Pacific Rim, and I don't

want to go too much into that. But for me, for

me, Guardians is this year's Pacific Rim for

me. Like, I know nothing about Guardians. Right.

And I've never heard like I'm familiar with them

from like the comics, like I'm not I'm familiar

with them enough to not be like weirded out by

the idea. But I don't know that much about them.

So I'm like going into this one like. This is

going to be fun. Plus, I'm getting like a very

strong Firefly vibe off of it. And I love the

TV show Firefly. So. Yeah. Anyways. I think one

last superhero story, Steve, and then we can

talk about TGI Fridays. You can talk about TGI

Fridays, but I just found it a little hilarious

that one person would actually do that. So. Kyle

Higgins is bringing the Phantasm to Batman Beyond.

The new story arc, Mark of the Phantasm, started

on the digital comic series after the Justice

Lords crossover ended. I like this. I think it's

interesting. I've already read the first chapter.

The second chapter comes out soon. I actually

had to go back and reread the original run that

Adam Beechin did to get one of the characters

and realize, oh crap, they're calling back to

everything, not just the animated series, but

what the previous comic part did. So I think

it's cool. I'm wondering who this phantasm is,

if it's going to still be Andrea Beaumont. I

don't think so, because she was already revealed

in both. btas in the mask of the phantasm and

in batman beyond well actually justice league

epilogue but um i'm super stoked for this this

new story in batman beyond universe i'm excited

to see it i just i i'm not really sure what to

think of it yet yeah it's only had the first

chapter so far and the first chapter is kind

of like a wtf moment um But what's interesting

is they are keeping, and this is what I like

about this, they are keeping Kyle Higgins on

as the writer. They are keeping Tony Silas on

as the main regular artist for all of the current

day art. And they're bringing in Phil Hester

and a couple of other artists to do the flashbacks

because this story arc is all told. It's going

to be seven parts. It's all told in flashback.

because when Batman Beyond 2 .0 started up earlier

this year, or earlier last year I should say,

they jumped one year ahead from the events of

Adam Beecham's original run. So now they're going

back and telling you what happened in between

the one year gap. Very awesome. Okay, so I saw

this and I used to go to TGI Fridays all the

time and they announced recently their $10 unlimited

appetizer thing, but you can only order one appetizer

for, you know, you can order a potato skins or

mozzarella sticks and $10 you can get as much

as you want. I actually found an article online

where a guy actually took advantage of this and

spent - It wasn't a guy. It was a chick. Someone

spent the entire day from opening to close eating

mozzarella sticks at TGI Friday's I just I Read

through the whole thing. It's kind of I did too

Well, if you would have read through the whole

thing, you would have known it was a girl anyway

Go ahead No, I was just gonna say that it's it's

kind of it's kind of funny. But why would you

subject yourself to that? Because we're Americans

and that's what we do. Yeah, so I did it I Wouldn't

do it. I don't care. I wouldn't sit there from

12 o 'clock until 1 in the morning No, there's

no way in hell You know what I would do though

same appetizer, you know what I would do though

what I paid $200 for that Lego tumbler And I'm

going to I know you will I'm excited I like I

Know it's you know, it's it's Legos and you know,

sometimes there's some people I'm pretty sure

all our fans love Legos And I'm like a hardcore

like Lego purists like I'll see like the What

are the other like knockoff Legos the mega blocks

and the mega blocks and creos like I'll see those

I would like mmm That's a cool set, but you know

what it's not Legos. I'm not buying that like

I am I am a die -hard Lego like snob And I remember

growing up Playing with Legos, and I would build

you know the stuff like I would try to build

like you know make my Batman figures and like

Power Rangers figures I got to bring up the model

paints and like you know make my own make my

own characters I may even made like the turtles

by painting some some figures myself Of course

now kids have it easy and all those sets are

available. You can go to the store You can buy

Batman you can buy the turtles You kids suck

But I one thing In I've always kind of liked

is the I've all like growing up I always liked

the model team Lego sets which were like the

basically it's kind of like what the ultimate

collector sets are now they were Sets with like

more than a thousand pieces in them and they

were intricately detailed you had to build every

single part of the set I remember there's like

a Porsche Like a big rig stuff like that But

I getting older You know, I started collecting

Lego sets a few years ago when Lego introduced

the architecture series, which is just like smaller

sets that are basically it's the Empire State

Building out of Legos, the Eiffel Tower out of

Legos. I started collecting those and from there

I moved on to like I have a giant pirate ship.

That I have on top of my bookshelf that Lego

made, you know I bought the actual set but I've

built several pirate ships myself like growing

up I had like all the pirate sets and I mixed

and matched them and made my own but getting

older I just kind of like to buy the sets and

kind of reminisce about what I had when I was

a kid and display it like it's just there to

be displayed not really played with A couple

of years ago. They came out with the Lego B wing,

which was actually my first master Ultimate collectors

edition, which was I think over a thousand pieces

and again like the model team stuff You have

to build the entire thing and that's also up

on my bookcase just for display But I take it

down and I play with it every once in a great

while And I bought the DeLorean and the ecto

one Like a month ago from Lego and It's just

it's just cool because the one thing I remember

growing up as a kid. My dad always wanted me

to build models You know like the old -fashioned

You know plastic and get the group get the glue

out and the exacto knife and stuff But well,

I built a few of them. I never really got into

it But I did build like the you know, the back

to fusion DeLorean and the back in the 1989 batmobile

is one of the models that I built And it's interesting

seeing these same Like this the models that my

dad wanted me to build are now available as like

Lego sets that I can buy and actually build because

always like building out of Legos and Monday

when I got to work. I checked in on Twitter and

sure enough. There's the freaking Lego tumbler

which the tumbler is like my favorite batmobile

ever and It's you know the master series so it

comes like a little plaque that tells you all

about the tumbler and it comes with a you know

They call it the Christian Christian Bale Batman

and the Heath Ledger Joker But I could care less

about that. I just want that damn tumbler I'm

just I'm super excited I will say that the only

thing about Creo that is really cool to me are

the Creon characters, not necessarily the sets

themselves, but the fact that you have Transformers

characters that you can actually make out of

the LEGO men. I like that about Creo, the rest

of it. It's too weird. Like I said, the sets

are cool. I look at them and I'm like, man, that'd

be a really neat set to have. But at the same

and then I just like it's not Lego. I really

don't I really don't care Right, but that's just

you know, that's just me I know I've got friends

that have like they like the the Creo transformers

and they have some of them and they they don't

They don't distinguish the way that I do But

I know if like I know for a fact that if Lego

made like a transformer set I'd probably buy

it and I know that one of my favorite games right

now is Titanfall and Creo, I think just Got the

license to create Titanfall characters. I'm like,

man, those would be really cool to have But they're

not Lego. So they're not coming in my house But

yeah, I'm thoroughly excited for this it comes

out September 1st, it's as I said, it's like

it's 200 bucks 1 ,869 pieces and man does it

look awesome And there's a whole heck of a lot

of good stuff coming out of SDCC this year, too.

There's a lot of cool news. I think we may save

that for next week, maybe. Oh, yeah, do a recap

show. Yeah. Just to kind of talk about some of

the fun things that, you know, got came out of

it. And if you save it for next year, you can

make it an early anniversary episode because

we started this one after SDCC last year. Nice.

So. Yeah, technically I should have done that

for this one being that it's episode 50, but

I didn't All right, 52 would actually make it

one year so Yeah, Steve created the new 52 Only

problem with that is it started two years prior.

Yeah The first thing that I've created is something

else is taken that's actually the title of off

the cuff 52 It's the new 52 So Yeah, um, oh the

other thing Batman Arkham Knight DLC Red Hood

Red Hood Has there been actual story DLC for

the Arkham games? Has there been yes. Yes. Okay

Arkham City had hardly Arkham origins had mr.

Freeze Okay, so nothing. I don't think this I

think this may be just an alternate Story DLC

maybe like do you play as those characters you

play as Batman against the plays Batman and you

go against them. Oh Sometimes you like in the

Harley one you get to play as Robin I wonder

if I should save Batman wonder if I should check

those out and it's in Arkham City Okay, you get

to play as Robin and it's the Tim Drake version.

Ooh I like me some Tim Drake and he has to save

Batman like he plays Batman for like Two seconds

and then you're immediately Robin and then After

you save Batman Then you're Batman again for

the remainder of it which isn't much of it That's

one of the things that I've kind of held against

the Arkham games I don't really want to get too

much into it is that they have those characters

games, but you can't use them they have the alt

like they have like the Robin character and everything

else like that in the game, but you can only

use them in like the beat -em -up part and Not

in like the main story stuff now. I think Deadshot

you could use I think he had his own partial

story DLC I mean I But you know what I'm saying

like you couldn't take the Robin character and

just go bum around Arkham City in the open world

part Yeah, I know that's the one thing I wish

I could do and I know why they did that it's

because essentially they kept Batman was just

being reskinned It was just they were just reskinning

the the same character model and to do like Tim

Drake you'd have to like do an entirely different

character like Like because they're different.

They're different sizes is what I'm saying So

I understand why they did it But at the same

time, like, man, why couldn't I go bombing around?

There is like Nightwing or, you know, Robin or

Batgirl even, you know, like, come on. Oh, maybe

maybe with, you know, the power of all this and

the next gen stuff, maybe Arkham Knight will

do that, but it won't. It probably won't. But

if it does, I did hear rumors that Robin will

be in it. The Tim Drake one. Cool. Yeah, he doesn't

get enough usage. Honestly. I mean right now

there I wish they actually had Nightwing and

Tim Drake's Robin Or right Robin or somebody

like that, you know in in the Arkham Knight well

Tim's bad girls Oracle so that's that's out of

the Well, but isn't there there was a different?

Fat girl though, isn't there? There's been like

four. Yeah, there's the last son. I know it's

been a while with the last bad girl I knew was

either was deaf Or I remember it like maybe she

was in depth, but she never spoke I only know

her from the from the book no man's land She

took up the mantle of I Think that was like Cassandra

Cain, maybe yes. Yes There's Cassandra Cain that's

definitely Stephanie Brown And it's Barbara Gordon

again You know, the thing with Tim Drake is,

like, since Teen Titans ended, or restart, I

don't know, I don't keep, you know, I don't keep

a prize of the Teen Titans comics too much. I

know the series last year ended and they started

a new series, but they've got him running around

in Batman Eternal right now, and it's awesome.

I so want a Red Ramen series, honestly. That

would be great to have, just have Tim Drake buy,

you know... Doing his own thing He just doesn't

get enough use I don't think So, um Yeah, I had

a lot of a lot of comments on last week I'm not

gonna read them all but no, I think but real

quick though don't you know before we get in

the comments I think a lot of people miss the

part where I said franchise Yeah, I think so

I just want to put that up front. I'm not trying

to sound like a douchebag or anything I just

think a lot of people miss where I said franchise

like everyone listed off like great examples

of what we were talking about But the stipulation

was franchise So yeah with that in mind, let's

go ahead and go go through some of these Okay

Yeah, some of them listed Various films Like

Harry Potter and Hunger Games Snowpiercer Snowpiercer

is awesome If you have never heard of it, okay

The reason you haven't heard of it is because

it wasn't marketed very well There's a lot of

controversy around the way that this movie was

going to come to the like an audience But it's

on it's it's on pay -per -view right now or on

demand so you can rent it at home if you want

to see it in the theater, I think the closest

theater to us is Star at Great Lakes that has

it. But I think it's like between like four and

six dollars to rent it on demand. It's probably

the best movie I've seen all year. I rented it

last Sunday just on the praise that I saw for

in my Twitter feed, and I was not disappointed.

It has the stars Chris Evans. And Ed Harris oh

wow, and I don't want to try not to till the

Swinton and Don't know William Hurt Is also in

it it's it's a really good movie. It's basically

a post -apocalyptic. It's all set on like a luxury

train Strange It's a really cool setting. The

movie is a lot of fun. There's if you're paying

attention, like the every single thing like in

the movie is kind of like paid like there's a

reason for like everything that you see in the

movie. It's just really cool. I had a lot of

fun watching it. My wife was kind of on it, but

I really enjoyed it. So. Yeah, there were other

mentions of Dark Knight Rises. I agree with the

conversation that spun up around that one. Yeah.

It's not really a cliffhanger. It's kind of an

open ended thing. Yeah, it's definitely that.

I guess Pacific Rim does now count as a franchise.

So that one that one's valid. The Pacific Rim,

Idris Elba dying in that movie does count. But

like the one guy said that That was kind of expected

that they were going to die. That type of character.

Prisoners, as Insurgent Cinema suggested, but

that's not a franchise. Neither is Cabin in the

Woods. I wish Cabin in the Woods was a franchise,

but it's not. Wasn't that the Joss Whedon film?

It was produced by him. It's a Drew Goddard film.

It's the one with all the horror monsters, isn't

it? Yep. That is what I thought. Have you seen

it? yeah i've watched it oh i like that movie

i i liked it until it got to the very end and

then i was like wtf yeah i mean it has that moment

but at the same time i was like i was already

like on that roller coaster ride i was on the

roller coaster but i didn't like the abrupt stop

that was at the end um i liked i liked it up

until that point though i don't think horror

movies really count for this question either

because people are supposed to die in horror

movies Just about every main character can die

in those. Yeah The gray as Connor Murphy suggested,

but that's not a franchise The Hobbit definitely

is not a franchise and but each one does end

on a cliffhanger to get you to come Do you get

you to come back? Although well, I did not see

the desolation of smoke The first one the first

Hobbit movie didn't really end on a cliffhanger

for me. It just kind of ended Tron kind of did

like it to some degree as far as the one character

or the two characters are concerned Yeah, like

I said, I brought up the question and it was

just kind of like the first see when I sit there

I try to think about this is why I wanted to

ask the question because people Obviously different

movies are gonna pop up in different people's

minds Like when I was sitting there trying to

think about it It doesn't really Let's see at

the same time Tron to me Tron legacy was like

a passing of the torch I feel it was a passing

of the torch, but it left me wondering what happened

to the dad and Clue I mean, I know that they

were decimated but it also you want to know what

happens when a program is decimated What's that

you want to know what happens to a program when

it's decimated? Like no, I'm asking like I'm

saying that's what I'm saying. Like that's what

you like they were decimated the end of Tron

you kind of want to know like that side of it

now yeah I mean I'd like to know what happened

to them after the fact okay yeah that's one okay

because I mean I kind of was left wondering and

kept going you know okay this is this is a great

passing of the torch but where did they go right

I mean and then somebody said something about

Tron dying as well and I says no remember he

fell into the blue water So he healed and went

back to being good Tron I Don't think Channing

Tatum's dead no, I don't either I'm just I make

that joke because of 1987. Oh, it's all good.

I'm not I wasn't I wasn't Chris I wasn't actually

I wasn't actually commenting on what you said

I was more comment commenting on the whole the

just bring up Channing Tatum in retaliation I

don't think he's dead. I think what what happened?

I know that they did re -edits to add more Channing

Tatum into the movie Which is besides the post

-conversion. It's one of the reasons why it took

so long for it to be it was delayed a year but

The other thing too is I feel like the way that

he died was a little more He quote -unquote died

was a little more ambiguous to leave it open

for him to come back to the franchise because

when retaliation started Channing Tatum's popularity

hadn't quite taken off and By the time retaliation

was done, you know magic Mike had hit and I think

21 Jump Street had hit And so he was like he

was like a thing And so I was like, oh, man,

we took them out of our movie. Oh, shoot. Let's

put them back in there somehow. So. But I mean,

I guess I guess that might be the actually the.

I don't know. I don't feel like the Harry Potter

stuff counts because that's a that's a book adaptation.

True. So that wasn't like a surprise, like it's

just I don't know. It's kind of The only thing

that I for some reason the only one that really

jumps out at me is You know with the whole thing

that spurred this whole conversation, which was

you know Spock dying at the end of Star Trek

2 I think aren't those the only two movies two

and three to actually Full -on do continuity

between them and for okay because Yeah, because

four, Spock is still definitely messed up. Okay.

Which is why he's so freaking weird. Yeah, I

could be wrong though. Am I wrong, Steve? Two,

three, and four kind of go together? They actually

all kind of go together. Well, but like directly,

like as in no time has passed. Pretty much. You

know, times pass between one and two, then you

have... You know, two and three, it's literally

like hours. And then three to four, it's literally

hours. Yeah. So I feel like that's like that

I really want to try and scratch my head is like

what another one could have been. And what really

here's the thing. The other thing that kind of

the one that comes to back my mind is like a

failure besides like Into darkness to kill Chris

Klein's character, you know that Kirk the other

thing that kind of comes to mind is the the fate

of Tony Stark and Avengers Like that that entire

end sequence to me was ruined by Marvel's early

announcement of Iron Man 3 because they announced

Iron Man 3 before Avengers even had hit the theaters.

And following news the way that we do, it was

like you go, OK, so we know they're making an

Iron Man 3. So all of a sudden, like anything

that happens to like Tony in this movie, like

or any direction his character may be heading

like loses like all weight. Because you knew

he wasn't going to die. Exactly. So I feel like

and but in that defense, it's like maybe if they

had waited to. Announce a sequel You know like

if they wait till after the weekend to say, okay,

we're making an iron man 3 then maybe that's

that whole thing would have played out a little

like stronger because I remember going to see

spider -man 2 And I saw that three times in like

one day I saw a midnight showing of it a 10 a

.m. Showing of it and then a 10 p .m. Showing

of it all in the same day and that train sequence

had me on the edge of my seat the entire time

because Sam Raimi did such a good job of beating

the crap out of Peter Parker up until that point

that it was like is he going to save the train

like or is this just going to be the straw that

broke the camel's back and even though I know

that I knew from the first screening that I saw

that he saves the train the subsequent two screenings

that I watched the movie I was on the edge of

my seat the entire time. because of what's set

up before it I I just can't think of I Mean and

they did not you know, they didn't announce spider

-man 3 before that movie came out. So like anything

was up for grabs The only other franchise I can

think of as far as good really good cliffhangers

or Really good endings to bring you into the

next one back to the future one and two Back

to the future one and two works, but one remember

one was edited like there was one was re -edited

to link it to two. The ending that everyone sees

like on the DVDs and stuff like that is not the

original ending for that movie. But they they

changed it so so it would run into two. Then

yeah, but you're right. That's a good that those

are good cliffhangers But you see you see and

we brought up Pirates of the Caribbean as a good

as a good cliffhanger like character practically

Dead, but you know death was gonna be back anyways

What was that news story that came out recently

about five that it was moved to? 2017 yeah something

like that so I I don't know I'm As long as it's

not Frank Marshall, I'll probably pay attention

to who directed it. I'll probably go see it.

Well, I'm about done. Yep. I think that about

wraps it up for this week. So if you guys have

any topics or any kind of questions, comments

or whatever that you'd like to ask for next week,

then feel free. Anybody have anything else to

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