Movie Trailers, Sony Hacks, and TV Shows

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to All Dirt Geek Unlimited, episode 69. 69, dudes!

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So we fit all body types here pretty much. Yeah

So Ton of geeky stuff's gone on in the last week.

Oh, yeah, I'd say the last 24 hours to be more

accurate especially 24 hours Most notably some

magical trailers that have popped up over the

last week I'm curious. I want to start with the

bad, because I've been pleased with everything

I've seen. Who's saying bad? Dodd said some good,

some bad. So I said I want to start with the

bad. One of the bad things that happened this

week, and it's only getting worse each time you

see it in the news, is Sony pictures got hacked.

And a lot of stuff came out, like salary data,

medical stuff. And that's why you don't threaten

the Koreans in a movie. Yeah, well, that's who

they think it is a suspect, which I think is

hilarious. You may go to war over Seth Rogen

and James Franco. But that alone, they have over

100 terabytes of data. They've released about

40 gigabytes so far. And I don't understand how

Sony Pictures could fuck up this large. Because

they had a folder called Passwords? Yeah, that

too. I was like Jesus you think you'd learn after

the Sony PlayStation network crap a couple years

ago I don't think that the Sony this this is

tied to the I don't think you can link the link

the two things together because if somebody went

I'm pretty sure if somebody went after any this

could have been any company It's not just them

if they went after Sony and yeah all this stuff

came out But if they went after somebody else,

I'm pretty sure you could walk away with the

same type of information Well, if you want something

bad enough, you're gonna get it Well, one of

the things that the guys are saying the reason

why Sony was targeted is showing the inequity

in Hollywood and even Chris Rock has done interviews

this past week said, you know how many black

people I've seen working in Hollywood not that

many and you see All the salaries are different

between men and women which is you know, that's

the way it's always been needs to change obviously

And all that stuff and I had a theory About all

this if they've got a hundred terabytes of stuff.

That's a lot. That's a lot of friggin data It

wouldn't surprise me if in the next few weeks

we see some confidential details come out about

amazing spider -man 3 or 6 and Ghostbusters Well,

okay Here's the thing and it is I I don't know

what they got but apparently they've been putting

movies up on the internet. Okay 100 terabytes

of information if it's what I think it is it's

not that much because if they it depends on what

they're Has anyone seen the movies that they're

putting up on torrent sites? because Okay Here

all I'm saying is a movie in the theater those

And this is probably not what they've stolen

They've stolen like screeners and stuff like

that, but screeners are in you know the gigabyte

range for like a quality screener and if you

if by any chance it was an actual movie those

are in the hundreds of gigabytes so a hundred

terabytes of information is not a lot when you're

when you're considering what all might have been

taken well they may have because it's not like

it's all like excel spreadsheets it's not like

it's all excel spreadsheets and stuff there's

probably a lot of like video and stuff in there

so It's not a hundred terabytes of of what is

the question and nobody knows so My guess is

we'll see if something big happened probably

around Christmas We're gonna get a Christmas

present of some kind. Yeah lizard squad lizard

squad is gonna take down Xbox live on Christmas

But I want to play with all the kids that suck

in cod so I can get some really good scores that

just sounded wrong There was this guy this week

that I'm friends with on Facebook. He's my friend's

boyfriend. And he says, you know what's better

than Call of Duty first thing in the morning?

And I gave the most asshole response I possibly

could. I'm like, well, all the people that have

school, work, and jobs are not playing. So all

the kids that suck at our losers are playing.

So in theory, you should have a really wicked

score. Instant lights right across that car I'm

sorry kid. You sit at home. Just like me on disability.

Fuck you. I Wait at least after 4 p .m. Because

then it's not a challenge Okay, then So what

trailers have you guys caught over the last week

I know that we've had a week and a half Anyway,

we've had like Star Wars, Jurassic Park, Terminator.

Terminator surprised the shit out of me. That's

it. I think that was it, yeah. I'm probably in

the minority here, but I was pleased by all of

them. Most pleased by Star Wars. Surprised by

Terminator. In a good way, not like a bad way.

And I liked the Jurassic World trailer, but I

liked Jurassic Park, so... Okay, I guess we'll

go around the panel and find out what everybody's

thoughts are. Don? Sorry, I'm queuing. The Terminator

one? Okay. When I first heard the plot description,

I thought, wow, this is mind -numbingly fucking

stupid. After seeing the trailer? Okay. You had

my interest before, now you've got my attention.

I think it could be really cool. I just wish

they would have taken more care with casting

who's supposed to be Reese. Yeah, who is that

guy? It's Jai Courtney. What's he from? Die Hard

5. Die Hard 5, he's also in Suicide Squad. Isn't

he playing like Captain Boomerang? He's one of

those guys like Sam Worthington where they're

trying to make him an action star. But nobody

really likes him as an action star. It's more

so because he doesn't fit anywhere else so they're

trying to squeeze this square block in a triangle

peg. I guess I'd rather see him in an action

movie than ex -romantic comedy. Well, yeah. And

again, I shouldn't I'm not really down on him

because I haven't really seen him in anything

I care about. Like I'm not the last Die Hard

movie. I'm not really going to hold anyone's

performance in that. To them, I guess. But I

mean, he's not he's not going to keep me away

from the movie by any shot. I'm just saying,

like it because of the premise and what the trailer

shows that he's playing Reese, which was Michael

Bayne's character. And he doesn't look like that

character Like unless he's unless it's not Reese.

I don't know. It could be he's supposed to be

playing Kyle Reese. Okay Well again, it's playing

John Connor. I would have saw as a better fit

Although he's a little bit older But I like what

I saw I like time travel stuff. I like when they

mess with the timeline like that and You I'm

honestly surprised how I don't know it seems

like it might work But again, I've been disappointed

before I think of Terminator salvation. I like

salvation I like a lot of the designs. I'll tell

you that much, but I've got a lot of problems

with that I I watched all four back -to -back

a couple months ago in like a day and I had fewer

problems with salvation watching them that way

then I did originally So maybe the more distance

you have from it, sort of thing? No, well, I

think if you, like, because there's a lot of,

there's a lot of, like, little strings and stuff

that they, they pull in Salvation's that get,

that, if you haven't seen the other ones recently,

might get lost, like, where they're, where the

connective tissue is to them. That's what I'm

saying. Like I said, I watched all four on the

same day and I like Salvation's more than I did

the first time I saw it. but I also like bail

so and Anton Yelchin so He was a really he was

one of the runner -ups originally to play flash

in the George Miller Justice League I Would have

been down for that. Yep, I would do Now it's

some kid. I've never even heard of yep, and I'm

not down for that so What do you think of the

other trailers? Dodd? Uh, Star Wars, it was okay.

I've had many arguments over the lightsaber with

people. Now, have you seen the Stephen Colbert

argument on the lightsaber? Oh, I have not. He

basically broke it down. I had a problem with

the lightsaber, too. I didn't have a problem

with the Black Stormtrooper like everybody else

has thrown a big temper tantrum about. So fucking

weird! Well, the thing, it's not weird, because

if you think about it... I mean, this kind of...

Is he saying the temper tantrum is weird? Or

is the casting choice is weird? Dodd, is Dodd

saying it's weird? I'm saying that the temper

tantrum is weird because if you follow the canon...

Well, the whole internet blew up and started

throwing a fit because they made it... Oh, heaven

forbid a black guy is in the suit. The only thing

that... I mean, Tamora Morrison wasn't exactly

the whitest guy on the planet. Well, the thing

is, you know... Yeah, Jango Fett was the prototype

clone for, you know, the entire two and three.

Who isn't a white dude. No, but still he wasn't

a black guy either. So but the thing is, is all

of those clones would have had to have aged and

died. In between three and four. So these would

all be recruits. If you look at at at Star Wars

Canada, the only the only battalion that was

still all clone troopers. through the era of

the Empire was the like 501st and Even those

clothes are starting to get old and died because

due to the cloning cylinders that used on Camino

the Spartis They had accelerated aging so you're

right. They would have died during that time

during the time of the Empire a new Hope they

were using on scripts recruits and people that

just plain signed up Yeah, Luke Luke even said

he wanted to sign up yeah so a black stormtrooper

like yeah that's par for the course dude yeah

i mean and that's kind of what my point on that

whole thing was is that yeah i'm like why are

people freaking out it's like fucking wando space

pin and and honestly where have we ever okay

outside of just in the original trilogy alone

no you haven't did we ever seen under the helmet

well yeah that's we've never seen what they could

all be black for all we know They could be clones

of this guy. I mean, who knows? It's it's just

such a petty thing that everybody's nitpicking

on. I think it's because everybody is wanting

to beat these films up like more than is necessary.

I think it's that. I think it's that. And it's

also because he's black. I think so, too. I I'm

not even going to argue with that. I think and

I'll get into something else that's on that kind

of page later, but kind of a different note,

but still a film. But But no and as far as the

lightsaber thing is concerned I was nitpicking

on that to begin with too and then I saw the

Stephen Colbert thing and he kind of broke it

down that and I'll link the video in the post

but he he drew like a hollowed -out picture of

the lightsaber and then drew the things and he's

basically saying that in the hilt that it where

it shoots out the sides and there's the the metal

that kind of prevents your hand from slicing

off on the handle that inside it it's it's actually

emitting the the blade or the the electrical

part yeah there's like a diamond so all it's

doing is protecting like the metal piece that's

there is only just protecting your own hand the

other part is actually coming out of the same

spot that the top that the normal saber would

be coming out of yeah I don't If that was the

case, why wouldn't you just cut off the lightsaber

head all the time? You could do it, in theory.

Yeah, they've done it before. I mean, it happens.

I mean, or maybe the guy's blade is made out

of... or the help could be made out of cortosis,

which is like a Sith sword material, which is

a physical sword that can block lightsabers.

So who's to say? There's another thing, too.

I saw this... Love the electrical effect that

they added to it looks like a very like raw like

not Not controlled beam which I liked about it,

too So it kind of give it something new so I

kind of like that I mean I was nitpicking on

that trailer I that that ground only besides

the fact that I didn't see an original original

trilogy person in it I like that a Luke or something

for even just a couple seconds. Or even just

the back of the hood. Yeah. And just seeing a

green lightsaber go off. I don't. Well, you know

what? You want something with the lightsaber.

The lightsaber noise at the end is Luke's lightsaber.

I know. That's what I was going to bring up saying

there was that sound right at the end of it.

And they have confirmed that that is his lightsaber.

I mean, I was OK with it because of the whole

like the minute. Like I said on Twitter, they're

never going to market episode seven. as episode

seven. You will never see it marketed that way.

It will only be in the opening crawl will it

say episode seven. I know because that's how

JJ does it. And besides the other films, I'll

say A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back. That's

not just that's not that's not just JJ doing

that, though. That's that's just Star Wars. But

that's how they're it's so that people don't

see it as the seventh movie and go, oh, God,

I have to see six others because now there's

going to be there's going to be like 10 year

olds that have never seen like Star Wars they're

gonna try to bring in like a new fan base with

this and if they mark it as the seventh one that's

daunting to a lot of people and It was smart

to I got excited just seeing three new characters

that I know nothing about which I thought was

impressive This is such a nitpick wasn't that

girls on the speeder It looks like a fud sickle

That's my only real complaint about it. Other

than that, I thought it was actually pretty cool.

It was cool seeing the stormtroopers in the back

of the gunship. But the little tiny droid with

the ball underneath them. Someone already has

a tattoo of that. That is the funniest Twitter

account right now. Well, it's funny because I've

seen it as a D12 dice. I've seen it as a gerbil

inside. I like the FIFA box art for FIFA 30.

That's amazing. I honestly think the best thing

about the episode seven trailer has to be hands

down, the Falcon. It has to be. Yeah, because

that's amazing. Did you like how they took where

the deflector dish was knocked off of it? return

to the Jedi and they actually had a flat one

on there, like a flat casing over it. It was

interesting. I never noticed that actually. I

watched that in there because I remember it used

to have an antenna like a dish on the top of

it and it got knocked off. When they were coming

out of the hole in Jester. So they actually had

a flat plate on there showing that it is a patch

job on top of it. I like the new profile for

the X -Wings. Yes amazing the wings fold down

into one instead of being two separate wings

Mm -hmm. I like I like that I didn't notice that

the first time I saw the trailer but I've noticed

it every time since and it's a it's a nice evolution

of it I That I don't know. I just I really like

that trailer and there's a really interesting

article on slash film vote I don't know if you

guys saw it about how this is probably one of

the most important trailers we've had in a long

time Because It's. It's like a franchise that

we all know and love, but we don't know anything

about it, like nothing. I know nothing about

the Star Wars movie. Versus like when we saw

the trailer for episode one, yeah, we all got

excited about it, but you knew the story that

they were going to tell. You knew what characters

were in it, where it was going to go, where it

had to go. It's it's almost like watching the

original trilogy for the first time. Yeah. you

you have we have no I don't know who any of those

characters are that they showed in the in the

trailer first of all and I mean a lot of that

is me not going digging through rumor stuff because

I kind of want to go in a little blind into this

one um but I I totally understand what they're

saying because the spin -offs the the trailer

for like the um the Death Star heist that they're

planning like that one sounds really cool but

that trailer is not going to have the same impact

that this one does yeah because we know where

that movie is going to end up like and this isn't

going to happen for eight and nine because we're

going to know who these characters are and well

even then it'll still kind of be that way only

for the fact that we don't really know what story

they're going to tell with them yet yeah but

like i said don't know who the players are it's

like yeah you'll know the players with episode

one we knew who the players were and we just

didn't know and we knew where it was going to

go it's like we will have half of the half of

the thrill will be there well we still know who

six of the characters are going to be in this

series too so And they're all from the original

trilogy two of which are actually from the entire

series so Our tunes, you know and c3po and all

those guys so but I did find myself very Enthusiastic

about that that film after watching the trailer

Probably 10 12 times. I did know what I'm more

excited for Terminator that I am Star Wars and

that's something for me to say well, I just Just

got the chance to watch the Terminator trailer

like I don't know probably six seven hours ago

and I Was I get that feeling that they were like

doing a soft reboot because it's of course time

travel But it was also kind of touching on t1

and t2 Without really having to retell the same

exact story. Yeah And I actually did find myself

liking it. You know, Terminator 3 was kind of

meh, and I didn't see... Okay? And I didn't see

Salvation, so I... Salvation is worth seeing

once, at least once. I have more problems with

Terminator 3 than I do with Salvation. 3 was

just terrible. But... Although I will say this

in defense of T3, and it's kind of an odd defense,

the commentary for that movie is really good.

I don't know why. It was the first DVD commentary

I ever listened to, so maybe it's nostalgia -speaking,

but I really enjoyed the commentary to that one.

I think with these trailers, I think they've

actually hit the nostalgia at the right place,

but not actually having to step all over it and

still being able to create something new. I wish

Jurassic World had been different. What was that,

Mike? I wish Jurassic World had been different.

So yeah, that's what I want to talk about next.

I wouldn't say I'm indifferent to Jurassic. world

i mean it looks cool but i don't know i mean

i like when i saw Jurassic Park in the theaters

as a kid i was in the fifth grade i saw it in

theaters five times i've read the book countless

times and i've seen every sequel in theaters

i don't know i'm gonna see this one it's probably

not an opening weekend for me but i'm interested

but not super hype i don't know I wanted to be

more excited than what I am. I was legitimately

excited for it until Star Wars trumped it. But

I, for me, like, just the, and I'm okay. When

I say I wish the trailer had been different,

I'm not disappointed by anything I saw in the

trailer. I'm totally fine with it because that's

Jurassic Park. That's what it is. If you're expecting

something different, I'm sorry. But. Like I just

wish the trailer had been more of Selling me

on the park maybe like a two and a half minute

Disney infomercial, but done Jurassic Park style

Yeah, like if they've done it as like a vacation

package promo video that would have been awesome

viral marketing Yeah, but don't give me the twist

of the movie. I know the twist. It's a Jurassic

Park movie Just like like sell me because clearly

the park has been open for a length of time so

it's like, you know, sell me on the park and

then maybe like maybe like tease the D rex by

saying like there's a new attraction coming to

the park or something like This summer come check

out our new attraction a dinosaur. You've never

seen before like and just kind of tease it that

way rather than just like you know all of a sudden

giving you the twist that you know is coming

in the trailer that's what i mean i just wish

it would have been done differently yeah i think

i'm i'm in the same boat with you on that i wish

it had been a different approach uh the only

other trailer i could think let's come out in

the last couple of months that's got me super

super beyond hyped and this is so old news was

the age of ultron extended trailer With them

trying to lift the hammer. Yeah, I really like

that and the whole There's no strings on me song

playing in the background, which I always thought

was kind of cool I'm trying to think what what

what what other big shows are still yet to come

in in the next few months that we haven't even

seen yet Now we've got Terminator. We got Jurassic

World Star Wars What are we missing here? I Feel

like there's something else in May There's an

Ant -Man coming out. Ant -Man. Ant -Man, that's

2016, isn't it? No, that's next year. I think

so, yeah. Pretty sure it's next year. Holy shit.

It's next July. My guess is Super Bowl. Oh, come

on. Well, that's when we're going to see a lot

of the big trailers drop. Add like Super Bowl

for sure. It won't be on Super Bowl, it's on

Avengers. Oh, well, fuck that. Yeah, because

Avengers needed more money. So let's slap a Star

Wars trailer on the front of it. There's something

I cannot think of what it is right now. You think

we'll get a teaser for Batman vs Superman? Actually,

talk about that fucking mess, please. You mean

Justice League Part 1? Yeah, Justice League 1

where they introduce Doomsday. Superman's ultimately

one of his greatest fo - Now there's talks of

the Joker. Hey, I don't understand We don't Whatever

we don't know how big these parts are we don't

know if they're like after credit sequences.

We don't know what they are I don't know why

people are I don't think so. I think this film

is going to be setting up a lot of stuff. I do

think Batman and Superman are going to fight.

I think Lex Luthor is going to play a bigger

role in what we think. And then I think all the

other characters are going to be just kind of

either already in existence in continuity or

they'll be a passing mention or we might see

something happen in the battle between Batman

and Superman causing some of this. One of the

theories I've got is I think Doomsday is going

to be I don't know. Here's the thing. I think

They're gonna go with what marvel's marvel has

the new approach with their movies where they're

they're not gonna do origin tales anymore They're

just they're just gonna be there. Yeah, they're

just gonna be there and I think dc might be kind

of taking that I mean They might just be taking

it like a step further like these movies these

characters exist in this world. These people

know each other It's not we're not telling the

or like when I see when I hear about a character

being in a movie I don't immediately I think

a lot of people like frown on it because it's

like that character either didn't have an origin

or they think they're going to get some stupid

like five to ten minute that's going to eat up

the movie with like who this character is whereas

I think it's just more going to be like you're

going to know we're going to know who those characters

are and it's going to be cool fan service and

as long as they fit into like they don't like

overshadow the main thing I think other people

that go like the mainstream audience that goes

to see the movie is that was a really interesting

character Okay, all right, you know, it'll be

kind of like the way like like arrow does it

I know that they don't really you know the left

hand in the right hand at DC don't talk to each

other but arrow does this really well because

they had Solomon Grundy in an episode and There's

name drop. Yeah. Well, no the guy's name was

gold he was I mean he eventually becomes Solomon

Grundy and He had like he was super strong like

Solomon Grundy was Not yet. He was on his way

there, but he wasn't at the time. But it's he

was Cyrus Gold. Yeah. So that's cool shit. But

they did that. They in those shows, they name

drop these characters and they don't get in the

way of anything. It's just that this character

exists. He's there. But maybe when you think

of it as a movie and not like a 22 episode season,

you think, oh, my gosh, they're cramming all

this stuff in there. But if you think of like

Who could possibly play a scientist at Star Labs?

Maybe we throw a guy, maybe we throw a cyborg

in there. He could be working at Star Labs and

now you've got like a branching off point to

other stuff, you know? It could be heavy -handed.

I'm also slightly more optimistic about Suicide

Squad now. Yeah. I think Will Smith as Deadshot's

an interesting choice. Well, I think it's almost

akin to the... Sam Jackson playing Nick Fury.

I mean, he wears a mask anyway, so what's the

matter? But the way I understand the character

now, I only know him from the role playing game.

I haven't seen the depiction on Arrow and I haven't

read comics with him. He seems to me like a super

serious dude. Yeah, it takes a lot of risks.

I don't see there's something about Will Smith's

voice and portrayal of that that I don't necessarily

see. Will Smith is a really good actor. So maybe

I'm just not seeing it. Well think maybe I robot

Yeah As far as like some of the vocal performance

not necessarily the actual or bad boys. Yeah

Another one. I'm liking the Jared Leto as the

Joker more and more Seriously, I'm not sure but

I've not watched anything with him in it. I know

that he does the train The thing is, with Leto,

I'm okay with it because here's the thing. Every

article I've seen with Leto has the exact same

comment section that looks just like the comment

sections when they announced Heath Ledger was

going to be the Joker and y 'all can go F yourselves.

Well, I'm not making a judgment either way. I

don't know what his performances do. I don't

really give a shit about half the films he's

been in and I probably won't watch them anyway.

I'm going to end up watching it regardless because

it's a DC film. I mean all i'm saying is we've

been here before with the joker and everyone's

had exactly the same things to say And then everyone

got to go and eat a pile of crap because they

were all wrong I did actually very famously on

twig. Um Steve sailor quoted me on saying he's

lunch is going to suck as the joker and if he

does I have to eat my hat or something And I

remember we did a show when the dark knight came

out. He's like so mike How's that hat taste?

I'm like fuck you steve I was totally wrong,

and that's what I'm hoping I'm hoping letto knocks

it out of the park I think he'll play it. I think

he'll play it. Well. I just like I said I don't

know enough of his performance to actually be

able to give a logical argument either way, but

is there a role you could have seen I mean realistically

I really don't see anybody else playing it since

But so what but not I'm not talking about that

I mean like just look at Ledger's performances

before he did the Joker like there was There's

no First night He was in the Patriot I could

I can think of the roles he was in I'm saying

those roles don't didn't I think of those roles

and they don't go you make a good Joker Yeah,

they didn't translate that. That's what I'm saying.

Like an actor's body of work doesn't necessarily

100 % reflect a role that they could possibly

do. A good actor, I think, can transcend roles.

Look at Keaton. He was the first one to get the

shit story from comics, and he was doing all

comedies, and then all of a sudden he's Batman.

And then he became the Ken doll. For me, with

Leto, I don't really care about him. I just...

It has nothing to do with his film work at all.

It has to do with the fact that he was the lead

singer of 30 Seconds to Mars. And I just can't

picture his voice, whether it's singing or speaking,

as a joker voice. Is that where he came from?

That's where he started, lead singer of 30 Seconds

to Mars. I'll send you a couple of songs that

he did off his first album that I have. Well,

I forgot the album. I didn't know that that was

him. Yep. Capricorn is their biggest hit. but

that's really where I know him from I haven't

seen him in like I haven't paid attention to

his acting career so as far as his acting goes

and acting like the Joker I don't really have

an opinion either way. I'm not on the bandwagon

of, oh, this is going to suck at all. It's just

one of those things where from hearing his voice

in the past and hearing his singing voice, and

I know the Joker isn't going to sing in this,

but it's one of those things where it's like,

I just don't think he has a voice for the Joker.

And again, Heath Ledger. I know, I know. And

I've heard that he tends to transcend and change

into whatever he... Also, like, he blends in

very well with the characters, so... He doesn't

sound like any other interpretation of the Joker

I know, either. No, he's kind of dark and scary

and how he talks. Girl, I please Harley Quinn.

I think that's... That's fantastic. I dropped

that. She's goddamn hot, just saying. I don't

like the heat that... I mean, Will Smith's gotten

kind of the same... Backlash for being deadshot.

I'm indifferent. I saw I saw it on even the um

on the D cast radio thing and I wanted to jump

in there and tell that guy to who said that F

himself. He was talking about how they he doesn't

like that I don't even know who was he said that

he doesn't like that They keep they'll change

races for a character. What post was this? Yeah,

well, I've said that before too, but it's not

necessarily for the same reason Don't know if

he was saying it because he's like, you know

that but I mean I just wanted to respond with

who's it What does it matter as long as it's

a good actor and but I couldn't do that without

posting from my I was on my phone. I can't post

to the geek ass stuff without posting from geek

cast Yeah, I like myself I kind of saw it as

like the the interpretation they went with Nick

Fury he was white before they made him black

and You know Sam Jackson plays a kick -ass Nick

Fury Sam Jackson plays a kick -ass everything

But I mean Will Smith is a good actor so I mean

I don't I don't see a problem with it either

way like if they would have cast some nobody

in there I probably would have been a little

bit hesitant but I'm happy it's not DJ Qualls.

Well, at least they aren't talking about hiring

Oprah as Amanda Waller. I'd be okay with that.

That would have been awesome, Oprah as Amanda

Waller. I don't like her personally, but I could

see her playing it. They should go back and get

like Pam Greer, like go back in time and pluck

her out of like the 1990s. Why couldn't you just

get CCH Pounder? Yeah, really. Stop stealing

my lines. It's exactly what I was just gonna

say. Why can't you use CCH Pounder? I mean, she's

done it already. She did it in the DC Animated

Universe, and she's done it in multiple of the

DC Universe animated movies, so she would make

a great live -action Amanda Waller. Just go watch

her on the shield. Wasn't she the voice of Amanda

Waller? Yep. Yeah. She looks the part, too. Yeah.

I think this shit happened, guys. Yeah, has everyone

seen the flash arrow crossover this week? I haven't

seen the second part, but I saw the first one.

I've watched both. You guys are missing out.

It's not like I'm not gonna watch it. It's legit,

I was surprised how well that she pulled it off.

Now, did you notice in the - now you've all seen

the first part? No. Yes. Okay, well the first

part they reference - I - do you care if I give

that away? No, you're not gonna - Whatever, it's

cool. They reference almost like a Green Lantern

-esque color infection. They have a villain that

channels rage through, like, red eyes. Oh, the

Rainbow Raider! Yeah, so, and I've never heard

of this character before, so that's something

new for me, but it almost kind of gave me that

Green Lantern vibe where you have the red lantern,

the green lantern, the blue lantern, all that.

So they had to use, like, blue and purple and,

like, pink colors. to put Barry back to normal.

I know it's a form of real cognitive therapy

as far as I understand. It is, but I also saw

it as like how the rings work. Yeah. How to rebalance

somebody with the, you know, so I kind of got

like a little reference for that and then they

had Captain Boomerang in part two, so. Now, this

is my first experience with Arrow. Actually,

yeah, I'm just getting into it now. Like I'm

gonna watch it over twigs winter break I like

that guy and I'm really I hope these two universes

don't do crossovers like every friggin week,

but I don't think they're going to supposedly

Star Labs will send tech to them and they might

send tech back to the other guy and the dudes

gonna become the atom pretty soon the Ray Palmer

dude It's going to be pretty kick -ass. I like

how DC's shared television universe has potential

to be really awesome. And when they bring in

like the Teen Titans stuff and Supergirl. Supergirl

is a possibility, Teen Titans isn't. I thought

they said they were. No, they said it's not continuity.

Supergirl is possible because it's on CBS and

that's a parent company of the CW. Yeah. And

it's the same, what the heck is his name? Same

producer. Greg Berlani? Yeah. It was your post,

Mike, when you were talking about... I didn't

say it. Whatever it was, I didn't do it. You

posted the Suicide Squad article with your book,

the F, and then... A guy down below, I won't

say his name, just said, I hate when they change

races out of the blue. Boomerang is supposed

to be white in Irish and Deadshot is white too.

Who the heck cares? Yeah, I... Well, for one,

the film's... Isn't Jai Courtney white? As far

as I can tell. No, he's just colored that way

on TV. Like the films they're gonna do whatever

they're gonna do with the films. They're just

trying to sell a seed It doesn't really matter

but like we said before I'd be more worried about

it if they didn't cast capable actors Yeah, that's

that's more so what I'm concerned about is if

you know Like I said if they cast a bunch of

nobodies that I've never heard of I'm gonna have

extreme skepticism Whereas all these people I've

pretty much heard about most of them the one

guy I've never heard of is Rick Flag He was how

much of Justice League have you seen? I've watched

all of Justice League, I'm not too familiar with

him. And Unlimited? Yeah. I'm not familiar with

him. Remember the episode Task Force X? Yes.

Yeah. He was in that as the Colonel. He was the

one that brought the team together. Okay. Under

Waller. Okay, that makes sense. That's my only

interpretation of that character, so no power

to him. The only thing I wish is that they...

If something is like pertaining to their television

universe that they didn't announce so much of

it for the film universe because it kind of Detracts

from it and I know that The arrow actor has said

the basically the same thing man. I'm worried

if he says too much. I'm worried he might Bite

himself out of a job. Yeah Yeah, he said what

did he say? But he's saying it like Gotham Like

he's saying, you know, I'm sure that they're

very capable, but he's also throwing his pot

shot in there I think I think arrow has the numbers

in the popularity. I don't think But but the

numbers were not as high as as like say flash

They've never been as high as flash and well

because of the crossover it actually boosted

arrows ratings, right? But what I'm saying is

arrow has been on for three years now the guy

has been doing a damn good job the entire time

you know it's not like he pulled a jason bigs

got in a fight on twitter with his wife and get

fired and had to get be replaced by seth green

of all people uh... you know so i mean uh...

that these besides that what about you know it's

fucking pies and stuff like that turtles it's

it's the turtles cartoon they want to be associated

with his adult humor and comedy so um and the

pissing and moaning i mean you know amel speaking

up and saying that he would like to see them

do we did that he would like to see a gotham

crossover i honestly don't think like it was

even talking about that it was the fact that

the like the flash they announced the the new

flash actor for the film right now like right

before they started the series that's right i

just think that dcs television is doing so well

right now where it is. I don't think that they're

going to do a lot of flash arrow crossovers.

I think this was the one big event because we

still have to build up the Flashies universe.

I mean, this coming week, we're getting reverse

flash for the midseason finale. And Ra's Al Ghul.

Well, in Arrow, yeah. I'm mistaken. There were

supposed to be two this year. Two what? Two crossovers.

Okay, maybe there are but I'm saying like Mike

was saying that he doesn't want it to Dodd was

saying he doesn't want to have them constantly

crossover. I don't think they are Yeah, I don't

they're gonna do that. It's I think it's only

on certain cases like this was more or less But

you've had you you've had care even before this

though you had characters even for this crossover

You had characters that are in the flash open

arrow and then characters that were in arrow

show open flash Firestorm that's that's also

Ronnie Raymond. That was the guy that was in

the particle accelerator Caitlin's boyfriend.

It's a Mel's brother killer killer frost. No,

it's his cousin I Thought it was his brother.

No, that's his cousin. I thought so too. I looked

it up. Oh They look an awful lot of like to be

cousins. Yeah Wow Steve you've been hanging out

with Dodd way too long. Oh my god. You're being

so corrupted right now Okay, this is one thing

I just want to say about flash and arrow as far

as the crossovers the Ronnie Raymond the like

his girlfriend That's killer frost Yeah Arrow

was the back door for flash's pilot so it only

makes sense that the characters from each series

show up every now and then and then have at least

one major crossover which they've already done

and if they're gonna have a second one fine actually

the back door pilot was actually scrubbed so

they didn't actually do his back door pilot in

season two he was in season two yes he was in

season two But the actual flash, the actual flash

back door pilot that was supposed to happen in

season two didn't happen because CW decided to

go ahead and give it a full season order. Oh,

OK. But they also they're they're they're opening

up doors to everything else. I mean, they got

the atom getting ready to come in and they got,

you know. I like Brandon Ralph in this Superman.

Like him. I like him. I I've liked him and everything

he's done. So I really like him in this I like

I like his character in this I think he plays

this character very well. Yes Constantine looks

like it's Constantine looks like it's dead on

arrival I think it's gonna get canceled. Have

they started production yet again? No, cuz it

stopped last week They stopped production. Yeah,

but they still filmed all 13 episodes. They're

just not making more so then now they're just

going through post and Finishing stuff so you

will see the complete 13. They're just not getting

the back 9 which should bring it up to I wonder

if it was only supposed to be 13 episodes because

that would make me really happy a lot of first

-year shows usually get 13 episodes, and then

they make the decision over the summer, do we

want to pick it up again? Oh, yeah. No, I totally

get it. Because stuff like Grey's Anatomy worked

out like that. I totally get how that works and

stuff like that, but I'm a big fan of the 12

-13 episode season structure anyways. Like, I

don't like it because I want more content, but

I do like it works for certain series like Doctor

Who, for example, works great in a 12 or 13 episode

series. But a different show might not. And you

may be right. Maybe Cosmeteen would work better

as a short series. See, the way I look at like

the shorter series is that they get to tell a

tighter story, which I'm a sucker for story.

I hate filler episodes. Plus, your effects budget

can be a little bit higher. Case in point, the

amazing looking show Hannibal, which NBC has

kept on the air for three seasons with like zero

ratings. They filmed that show not too far from

where I live, actually. Hannibal's probably one

of the best looking shows on television. According

to tvbythenumbers .com, it says on here that

Constantine has been canceled, but will air its

remaining episodes. Why was that? Called it.

It says NBC opted not to pick up the back nine

episode order for the rookie drama in recent

memory every fall premiere rookie show intended

for a full season that was ended after 13 or

fewer episodes in a non WGA strike season was

cancelled So so let me put this question to you

guys Gotham real quick Do you guys think Gotham

would have gotten a full season order of Netflix

hadn't paid for the rights to it up front? No

Think so Because it hasn't even gotten a season

two yet, so I Don't think so I just I like Gotham

there are many aspects of it that I still don't

care for I'm just waiting for something to happen

I like that they're finally getting around to

us Seeing Jim and Harvey actually seeing eye

to eye for the most part instead of being against

each other and that was a light switch that really

annoyed me because one episode he was the he

was the tool bag dirty cop the next one he's

like i'm i'm as spotless as you are jim let's

do this i was like nope not buying it yeah um

i just don't know like i'm just not sure i mean

i think that Gotham will end up getting a second

season if not Fox will I really hope they don't

do this because it would be a damn shame if they

did if Fox doesn't give Gotham a second full

season they'll they'll hero it that's exactly

what they'll do they'll do like a season 2 .1

and then 3 .5 and 10 years down the line oh hey

let's reboot it with a movie I don't know I mean

I'm still enjoying Gotham I don't really care

for fish. I'm honestly surprised how good it

is. I mean, it's in comparison to a lot of the

other superhero shows, it's okay. Like, okay,

if you're gonna hold Gotham up against Flash

and Arrow, it's at least third out of the three.

But I mean, it has its own little, you know,

quirks to it. I really enjoyed the whole Bruce

and Selena thing with them interacting. I thought

that was cool. Hey, I don't there's something

in each episode that just Bugs your eyes out

of you just you bugs the ever -loving crap out

of me, especially the part like don't get me

wrong. I thought the portrayal of Forgive me

if I'm spoiling anything here for anybody but

Victor's as showing up I thought that was a real

was really cool But when he goes into a police

precinct and tells all the cops to get out so

he can basically murder a other another cop And

they all leave That's where I lost it in that

episode Because in the ensuing gunfight that

takes place the three people that walked in that

precinct couldn't even take out one cop So you're

telling me that whole precinct full of cops couldn't

take out three people Like if you're gonna set

like that to me if you're gonna set something

up like that at least come through on what you're

Setting up don't Like make Gordon out to be like

some super cop because I'm sorry Gordon's a great

cop, but he's not a super cop and and if you're

gonna if you're gonna set these three people

up that walk into a precinct and told everyone

to get out and They're gonna make them you're

gonna set them up as badasses You might want

them to be able to walk out with Gordon, you

know, like I I don't know I would have had more

respect if the three of them would have been

able to capture Gordon and then he has to get

out of that situation But just stuff like that

just irritates the crap out of me It's like the

it's it's like the all the parkour in the first

season the first half of arrow when there's like

fire escape ladders like right next to them It's

that it's that stuff all over again. They're

really hard. You're really gonna love The flash

part two for arrow then because there's a scene

in the arrow cave with the flash With the parkour

stuff. It was amazing I like the part don't get

me wrong. I like the parkour stuff when it makes

sense, but when he's in an alley doing parkour

in Playing clothes and there's a fire escape

ladder I mean one you can explain the other one

you look like a crazy person scaling a building

if someone catches you Anyways So yeah The actors

even started that one it's not gonna go anywhere

it might come back Yeah, look at Jericho, I don't

want that to happen The Supernatural side of

DC on TV What channel did that come out on? NBC.

Yes. Well, everything goes on NBC and dies. I

don't even watch NBC. It's Constantine. I think

Constantine would do very well on Netflix. Well,

see, here's the thing. NBC canceled A to Z and

Bad Judge, but they just stopped production on

Constantine. They did that all at about the same

time. I think if they're going to cancel Constantine,

they would have announced it at the same time.

Like, there's no official announcement yet. I

think they're gauging it on purpose. They're

gauging it now. Like they're baiting it, almost

like the Deadpool trailer. One show that surprised

me that got canceled this year, it was an ABC

comedy called Selfie. It just sounds fucking

fascinating. I genuinely enjoyed the hell out

of that. Here's the thing. I think and I've only

seen one episode of selfie so I don't really

have anything like against it like hardcore So

I can't I'm not gonna say anything, but I feel

like ABC trapped themselves for the second season

in a row with dumb ass titles because trophy

wife last year with Mal and Ackerman was actually

a really good show and The title like trophy

wife was like the dumbest title on the face of

the planet which probably turned off a lot of

people from tuning into it and i'm pretty sure

the same thing might have happened with selfie

because with selfie you're going to get a demographic

of people you're aiming for a demographic of

people that probably don't watch tv on a regular

basis like they're going to watch it on their

phone you're talking about the dumb ass people

that shoot duck faces in their phone and think

it's cool yeah like if you name it something

else i'm pretty sure people would have watched

it i think Another thing, although this kind

of gives me hope, eventually, they did release

the last episodes on Hulu, one new episode for

the next six weeks, until they've shown all 13.

I'd like to see that show resurrected, because

honestly, Karen Gillian and John Cho had this

amazing chemistry together. And the black guy

who plays the boss, he was like... Real hard

-ass and something else. I can't remember what

it was. I'll have to watch more but I Like it

does get better and I'm generally sad that God

shit can I I will say I'm sad good just real

quick going back to Constantine before we get

too far away from it I'm really sad because NBC

started pulling the Fox crap, but they're airing

the episodes out of order That works out so well

Yeah, that works out so well for TV shows sounded

like they wanted to kill it. I Don't think NBC

wants to have anything that is too weird But

they have Grim and Hannibal I think that's where

they should go like Yeah I just don't think see

that when I when I when I sit down to watch when

I said don't watch Hannibal I've only seen the

first episode I do want to watch more because

I don't feel like it's fair to judge a show off

of one episode But I feel like okay when I sit

down I try to compare it to other like shows

on their network and it's like it doesn't get

the same treatment as you know, like Hannibal

does or grim like both of those shows are better

than what I've seen of Constantine I think the

main reason I like Constantine is I like the

actor Matt Ryan. He was Edward Kenway in Assassin's

Creed 4 Black Flag, but he has just the swagger

with the role that when I think of John Constantine,

when I think of the Hellblazer comics, I think

of him. Looks the part, he sounds the part. I

don't know, that's my Constantine, not fucking

Keanu Reeves. Don't know. There's just there's

something about that move something about that

series. I hope somehow It gets saved because

I think network TV could use a little more diversity

But then again, I kind of wonder if people are

getting super hered out Wait, did they recast

somebody from the first step from the pilot?

Yes, the woman who was the psychic was recast

because they're like you're fucking annoying.

Oh good Okay Other than that, I'm trying to think

what other network has really weird shit. I haven't

seen any of that once upon a time, though. And

that looks fucked up and weird. I haven't seen

season four, but it's one that I watch. I have

to marathon once upon a time. I cannot do one

episode at a time. It has to be marathoned. So

you wait till the entire season's over? No, I'll

usually wait until I've got like four or five

episodes stocked up. But now I have like the

entire like first half of the fourth season like

saved up to watch so like i'll blitz through

that and i'll be like That was probably really

cool. But if I watch it like one episode at a

time, it's the most annoying thing on the planet

It's been annoying. Anyway, it's kind of like

with breaking bad. That's a show I like to marathon

because I don't like not knowing um So I have

to watch again anyway, um Where else can we?

Okay, um, does anybody here watch The Walking

Dead? Yep. Nope. Yes. No. I thought it was such

bullshit what they pulled on their Facebook page

this past week. Oh, I don't follow it on Facebook.

It posted the major spoiler before the West Coast

had even seen it. Oh. Although I'm happy that

it went the way that it did. Because it was so

shocking, but then again, I kind of think they're

playing that card a little too often. So, I don't

know. Well, I don't know, this season I think

has been really good though. I know one out of

the four of us has been on this show, but I'm

really getting sick of comic book men. It's not

very good this year. It just, like, this past

week they brought in Ernie Hudson. Hudson? They

brought in Winston and it's like he just looks

so uncomfortable to be there. He couldn't get

out of there fast enough. I just I Kind of wonder

if that shows kind of running out of steam or

people or they're not picking up cool items enough

Because it always seems to be like there's the

story and then there's the stuff that comes in

You could do more stuff Yeah, I just think people

are getting tired of reality TV finally. Yes

Thank you. I like it. I really do. And not just

because I've been on it, but just I miss the

hour long format. I think you could do much more

with it. To me, reality television has always

been and I felt like I've always felt like this,

but I didn't really quite know how to like express

it. And then I was either watching some gladiatorial.

movie or I was watching Spartacus or not. Yeah,

the blood and sand on Showtime and Something

it somebody said something about You that in

in those days the gladiatorial combat was about

keeping the masses entertained So they didn't

overthrow the government and like give them something

else to focus on so they're not focusing on what

their government is doing I've always felt that

that is what reality television is like Reality

television is the modern equivalent of that.

It's giving like it's giving you something to

distract you distract the masses from Actual

stuff that is happening around them. So people

can get away with the government can get away

Right and I understand and I don't like going

down the conspiracy route I'm not like a big

in the whole conspiracy theory thing But it's

just like it's that's the way I've always felt

about reality television ever since its inception

I've never I mean the only reality television

I've really watched I guess you would consider

them documentaries on like the history challenge

I'm not I'm not talking like Orange County choppers

or like the stupid like Duck Dynasty crap like

that I'm talking about like I watch Mythbusters

every once in a while but like that, you know

to me that's educational like anything that actually

was a like educational that I've watched is fine

but like Dancing with the Stars, Survivor, Big

Brother, all that crap anything on MTV like TLC

like now TLC now like garbage just feeding the

masses so they don't pay attention to what is

happening to the world around them TLC needs

to change its call letters. It is no longer the

learning channel. It's the laughing channel.

It should be the reality channel. Yeah, it just

- TRC? Yeah. As far as Dancing with the Stars,

I have never watched that damn show. I have no

interest in that show. I didn't until the finale

when one of the freestyles was a Super Mario

Brothers dance. That was pretty awesome. Well,

that's okay. I haven't seen it. I'll replace

Dancing with the Stars with The Voice. You know,

I used to be a huge fan of the show I used to

watch it every season and then they started doing

other weird like season three they I think they

had a total of 64 contestants and then as seasons

went on they went back down to 32 or whatever

it was supposed to be and I just don't what really

pisses me off what the voice now is the song

selection suck Like what do they pick from? Pop

culture pretty much. Yeah So I want to do Lincoln

Park could I do it you could do it but I mean

it no They're more likely to have you do Jennifer

Lawrence's song from Hunger Games then Throwing

that in there I'm being an ass. Yeah. All right.

Um, let me see here. Dr. Strange. Yes Happy about

that one. It's official, officially official

now. I think that's excellent casting. Oh yeah,

inspired. I've said this before when he was up

for the role, like the rumor was that it was

going to be him. I make this joke all the time.

Yeah, he has the personality that I think Stephen

Strange should have, you know, Doctor Strange

should have and everything. I think he can pull

the character off, but he doesn't have the chin.

Like, that's my only complaint is he doesn't

have Dr. Strange's chin. I'm sure they can give

him a prosthetic chin. Shut up, stop taking it.

I thought of, like, of, like, Ocean's 13 and

the fucking nose job that Matt Davis does. I

just make it, I'm just, I'm just joking about

it. Like, I'm totally stoked about his casting

in it. That'd be awesome. that's the that's the

one thing is like he doesn't he doesn't have

like you know the the stoic chin that dr strange

has and i'm not i'm not even saying i want them

to give him like a prosthetic chin or anything

like that i think it'll be fine it'll be great

i think it'd be hilarious i'm i'm hoping here's

my thing i'm hoping because he's a tv star too

that we might see doc strange in the netflix

stuff because that's kind of his peeps they've

talked about it because the defenders is dr strange's

Group. Yeah, it's it's his peeps. It's his buddies

so I hope they do one or two like big crossovers.

I just want to know who the who the big bad guy

is going to be whether it's going to be Baron

Mordo Dora Mammu Schumer Gorath or God knows

what? Either way, I'm pretty high for it. I just

want to see this. Oh, sorry. I'm sorry. I just

want to see Benedict Cumberbatch spout nonsense

in front of Tony Stark. And he'll be like, I

didn't understand a word of that. I think that'd

be great. Man, that's a great seed right there.

Yeah. So anyways, Agents of Shield, you're about

to say? Yeah, Agents of Shield, mid -season finale

next week. They've definitely set up the Inhumans

crap now with the Kree has now officially been

official. They're setting up the Terrigen bomb

thing. A likely tie -in to something later on

this season. They're already playing the seats

for inhumans, which is I think 2018. Yep. That's

the long game, people. Yeah, I'm really surprised

how entertaining the show has been week to week.

It's consistently really good TV. And having

the girl that plays Mockingbird on there. I can't

think of her name. She was in G .I. Joe. Adrienne

Padalecki. She is awesome. Yes, she is. First

time I ever saw her was on Supernatural. I like

her in Friday Night Lights. I just hope the series

keeps going the way it's going. I also like how

the really good episodes, they don't need to

have an established Marvel bad guy in it to be

really interesting. No. My only issue with this

season, and it's a really good season, it's picked

up, you know, it hit the ground running from

where season one left off, which is great. But

man, someone needs to pay their light budget.

Every scene is so dark. It's so dark. Every scene.

and I'm wondering if they're doing that so like

they don't have to pay attention to what's in

like the background because like they don't have

to pay attention to their sets as much so they

can do things in other places but like every

shot of a character's face is like silhouetted

with black like you can't see anything going

on like around them it's weird I'd be very curious

to know who the director of photography is whether

he's kind of known for this or not I know Weeden

from Firefly. He's a big fan of environmental

lighting. If the light's not actually there,

then there isn't going to be a light source.

But that wasn't a problem on season one. Season

one was really bright. It's like they toned down

the lighting to make it look like a more serious

show. So maybe that's what they're doing to show

the things that they have to work in the shadows,

so to speak. It could be because Hydra can definitely

afford their light bill. Now, I also kind of

wonder if they're in the back of their mind trying

to get us ready for Agent Carter because they're

operating out of Agent Carter's old base. So

that might explain why the lighting sucks because

it's been around since the 40s. Which, yeah,

that premieres in like weeks. I think that's

right. Doesn't I thought it started like right

after the midseason finale like it starts in

January and shield comes back on March 5th. Right,

yeah, it's gonna run well. Because they learned

their lesson with the Once Upon a Time in Wonderland

business. To not run the shows together, but

to run the shows in opposite each other. Wait,

how many episodes does Season 2 of SHIELD have?

22? And how many have they done so far? They

want to tie it into Age of Ultron, so they want

to have a longer run. Well, how many have they

done so far? This would be episode 10, I think

once I your cat Where is it Marvel's agents of

she So if they've only done nine or ten episodes,

it's okay So I think I think nine just happened

and there's ten. So yeah, so if it go harder

runs, I think for eight episodes No, it's like

an 8 or 11 episode miniseries or something like

that. So, if SHIELD isn't coming back till, what'd

you say, March? Yeah. That doesn't have a hell

of a lot of time to get the rest of the episodes

out before... March, April. March, that's three

months. That's March, April, May. That's another

12, well, that's 8. Like, 10 episodes? Maybe

it's only 20, I don't know. No, it'll it'll tie

in but it'll go past age of Ultron just like

just like Captain America did No, I was just

thinking of and I know I shouldn't think like

this But I'm used to it just thinking in the

normal aspect of when a TV show usually starts

in the fall and ends in the spring It's usually

around last week of May first week of June So

that's why I was asking like how many episodes

that show still have left if they start in March

Dr. Who's Christmas special happens in a couple

of weeks. I haven't finished the end of this

season yet. I think No Capaldi signed on for

at least another season. I think they're keeping

the companion around Claire That's what I've

heard though. She was supposed to exit this season,

but Even more money or something. I haven't seen

all of this season. I was pretty good I wasn't

overjoyed with the first episode. So that's cut

me from watching more I've made my I've made

my decision. I posted on Twitter that because

I have more shows now, but I have in my iTunes.

I have come on, you stupid thing. Tell me how

many I have. Nice. Anyways, I have like a hundred

and some hundred and twenty some odd episodes

of episodes of TV shows that I haven't watched.

So I decided that we. Now and the when all the

TV shows the big TV shows come back anything.

I haven't gotten caught up on is getting cut

So a lot of shows Yeah, I mean ones like the

Americans is automatically gonna get a pass cuz

that's I have the entire second season of that

to watch and I don't I could probably blitz that

in a day if I tried season 2 It was good, but

it wasn't as awesome as season one was Yeah,

I tried I started the first episode, but it didn't

catch me They went for the more of the dramatic

kind of aspect to it as the season ended it got

better and better but the whole first two -thirds

of season two is just I Just found myself so

bored with it. I'm hoping season three they pick

it back up with some action and excitement They

went more domestic in season two than they originally

had in season one So that's probably why I found

a little boring not enough spy action Because

it deals with a lot of pages issues it deals

with a few issues of Henry's which are the kids

and for those that don't know They're they're

Philip and Elizabeth's kids and I know they're

playing a long game. I don't think FX is... I

don't think it's in danger. I mean, since it

is getting a third season, I don't think it's

in danger of being canceled or anything, but

it just... it drug on in Season 2 for me. 139

episodes of TV that I've missed. Good Lord. I

think during the break I'm gonna try and power

through Arrow Seasons 1 and 2. I already did

that! I did that the last two months. That is

the best way to watch it, because there's so

much stuff that happens in season two that calls

back to season one. Mm -hmm. Okay, good. I'm

gonna try... My wife wants you to try a show

called How to Get Away with Murder, and I hear

it's quite good. She wants to try me on a show

called Red Banzaside, but that just got canceled,

so what's the point? Okay, yes, it got canceled,

but it is a good show for... But why waste your

time if it got canceled? Well, Steve, shut up.

No, I agree. The ratings were terrible for it.

Because because if it I can see if it was still

ongoing and then you picked it up. But if it

got canceled and you get it, you never actually

got to complete its story. There's nothing worse

than watching a show that got like a season and

then got into like part of season two and they're

like, oh, worship candidate. I don't want them

to rush it like they did Revolution. They just

kind of wrap that up. which all know they don't

i'd just watch the the the quote unquote midseason

slash last episode this week they didn't rush

anything that left it basically they'd left you

dangling off off the cliff but it is a fairly

good funny show it wasn't at least in my personal

opinion the most original show of the year because

we haven't had a show like this we've never had

a show where it's all about cheating on terminally

and cancer it yeah terminally ill kids in a hospital

and what goes on with the issue we've had here

we've had you know uh... how's it not house uh...

that's another thing i'm so sick of all the medical

dramas well there's that just as many cop dramas

oh my god for so k i don't know there's something

my wife watches all part of your watches and

see i asked for my ticket fucking stand. She

watches Grey's Anatomy. See, I liked House, because

I thought that show was more about the medicine

than the people, though the people were still

important. And I've sat down and watched a couple

episodes of Grey's Anatomy with her, just, you

know, more or less out of spite. And I sat there

one night, she was watching it in bed, and I've

got my back to the wall, or sorry, I've got,

I'm facing the wall. I'm like, hey, Blair, let's

play the Grey's Anatomy game. What's that you

want to ask? I'm going to tell you what Bullshit

Character 1 says the Bullshit Character 2. I'm

going to describe the entire episode to you without

seeing one thing. Do it beat for beat. For me

with Grey's, like, I've watched it. My sister

got me into it when it was in its fourth season,

but I've seen it all. She bought seasons one

through three on DVD when we were living together

and I watched them. And ever since then, it's

been on my thing. And yes, look, exactly what

you said. The show is like totally predictable.

But and it's definitely not like a must watch

for me. It's definitely like a train wreck show.

But at this point, being 11 being 11 seasons

in, I just I keep watching just to see like how

bad the scenarios get. I do not watch it because

it's a dead crossover. Well, that would require

Rick to get out of Georgia. Oh my god, like,

it's so stupid. There's this other show, which

is the ultimate coincidence show, that Criminal

Minds, and I've had so many people fight with

me on this. People I thought that were my friends

and have backstabbed me. They're like, who's

smarter, Spencer or Batman? That Spencer dude,

I'm like, no, fuck you, world's greatest detective.

Sherlock Holmes. I have to play my trump card

to find that Tony Stark bitch. but the only Procedure

shows the only thing about criminal minds that

I know anything about it is the fact that it

has Thomas Gibson who used to be Greg from Dharma

and Greg That's the only thing I know about that

show. Yeah See I like him and isn't Mandy Batykin

in it too or am I thinking of something else?

I don't know Inigo Montoya What the hell show

was he in? Know it's gonna drive me nuts But

yeah, and I don't know there's even like the

CSI's are getting super stupid, but supposedly

there that's gonna get cancelled this year Well

won't won't CBS collapse in on itself if they

cancel those Nothing but the price is right reruns

until now and the end of time They'd have to

bring back Bob Barker though, that's a guy who

should have his head frozen like So we can reanimate

him in like a hundred years. Futurama style?

Oh my god. I hope his microphone is in the Smithsonian.

I think Drew Carey stole it. That son of a bitch.

That's Bob's get your own asshole. I don't know.

There's just so there's there's so many shows

on TV. They all seem to blend together and see.

That's why I liked red band because it seemed

to stand out sure it is a medic it is a medical

drama But it's it's more about It's more about

what is going on with the kids than anything

else Which is so interesting about it, and it's

got some pretty good acting in it. I mean Does

anyone remember Eli stone Barely, I don't know

why I think that was like I never watched one

of the last feel -good shows like the shows I'd

watch actually made me like feel like good at

the end of it like I Don't know. It was a lawyer

with like there's a lawyer drama procedural drama

thing and then it had like Religious like subtle

religious undertones like the main character

had like it was had an aneurysm I was getting

ready to pop or something like that and it was

giving him visions of Michael Bolton, I think

it was. And it was, it was, it was a really fun

show. I honestly felt good after watching like

each episode and like I felt good as like a person.

I don't know. It was weird. It's like one of

the only TV shows to ever do that. One of the

shows that does that for me right now, it's a

show, it's a comedy on ABC called The Goldbergs.

That show reminds me so much of my childhood.

I've actually become friends with the creator

Adam Goldberg over the last year and a half and

I don't know that that's a show it generally

brings me back to 1980 something and just seeing

all the stupid shit he used to do as a kid and

after every episode I just I don't know I feel

generally Kind of happy how I grew up and there's

one episode. It was last year where the dad met

his brother on Thanksgiving and they make up,

and I've gotten thinking about how a similar

situation happened in my family with two family

members feuding on Thanksgiving of all fucking

holidays, because in Canada, we're a lot less,

you know, Taser happy on Thanksgiving. I don't

know, that show, I always feel good about watching.

I think on Rotten Tomatoes, it has like a 100

% fresh rating right now. And it's gotten so

much funnier in season two. One of the actors

on there, Troy Gentile, I can't remember how

it's pronounced, that plays Adam's older brother.

This kid, my God, I hope he ends up in movies

and he does comedies like say 21 Jump Street.

This kid is fucking hilarious. He just has this

awesome sense of comedic timing and he plays

such a moron. on that show, uh, like, for example,

in this week's episode, he totally sells the

line, like, Adam breaks his arm, and he has to

make up a cool story as to why it happened, and

he's like, say it happened about ninjas. And

Adam's like, no, that's stupid. He's like, sharks?

That's even stupider. He was like, what about

ninja sharks? And just the, it was the way he

delivered that line and that look of enthusiasm,

like, goddamn, this kid's gonna go places. I

really hope he does. And the mom of that show

from Reno 911, Wendy, can't pronounce her last

name. Amazing. I'd like to see her get nominated

for best supporting character in a comedy or

something. My sister keeps trying to get me to

watch the Goldbergs, but I haven't done it yet.

It's worth it. I think the only episode outside

the pilot that I actually watched was when they

used the touch. One of the things I do for Adam

because I'm a douchebag like this is Whenever

he shows a shot of his room and there's always

transformers in it I'm like, you know that wasn't

out at at that time, right? Like I'll just correct

them for fun because I'm an asshole like that

Or like certain toys because that's that's one

of the main reasons I watch that show because

I'm like I had that I had that I had that I had

that in the episode There was an episode in season

one. They have a Burger King Starscream toy in

there from the 2007 movie. God. I'm like, Motherfucker,

did you not check that? It's like in it for one

frame, but I'm like, oh, betrayal. You got the

damn 80s hair and sweaters, but you can't remember

the damn toy. Exactly. Although I remember they

used the USS flag in one episode Like and he

got permission from Sony to go buy it And I'm

like, dude, you better have taken that thing

homes like no it sits in a warehouse I actually

have to buy it from the show if I wanted I don't

have three grand for it Somewhere there's a mint

condition USS flag locked up at a Sony warehouse

a mission boys Continue your podcast while I

plan a robbery oceans a lovely style Plan a robbery.

Oh my god, dude, if I could raid like like a

toy museum I would seriously if there would be

no end to the shenanigans that that I would pull

You just leave them dumb and dumber I'll use

I Promise I will take care of them. Goodbye Hey

Mike, did you see the IDW announcement? Did you

see the IDW announcement this week? No. They

put out the press release for their Gem and the

Holograms ongoing comic series coming next year.

I saw the artwork for that and I really like

those updated looks. It's kind of funny. I don't

know where the story is gonna go because the

blurb says that the blurb that they have on the

thing says that Through the magic of a long -lost

gift Jerrica Benton has to overcome her stage

fright So I'm not exactly says let me see here

It's the 21st century and Jim and the holograms

are 21st century girls meet Jerrica Benton the

gifted singer of the holograms a band that has

The right look the right sound but the thing

is not holding them back Jerica's crippling stage

fright luckily Jerica's about to find help in

the most unlikely of Places when she discovers

a forgotten present left by her father and what

she finds is truly outrageous That would be really

cool if every month that that book came out they

put out a new single That would be interesting

on iTunes would be interesting the the crazy

thing is they are really going over the top with

this Because of what is going on with it. They

are The first four covers are going to be the

original Jim and the three hologram girls or

whatever. The first five covers are going to

be that. And then the next are going to be the

Misfits, but they're both going to end up being

foil covers. And then they're going to have a

foil collector box for the box set. I hate you,

and this is why. As you told me this, I'm actually

typing my comic book guy On Facebook, I'm like,

dude, you are ordering me these right the fuck

now. I know I'm poor, but I don't care. I love

gem in the holograms. Let me see. Let me see

here. I'm sorry to derail the show, Steve, but

let me see here. Wait or not, you're making me

spend money. Let's see don't miss the chance

to get the five stunning rainbow foil covers

that will be available for issue one one for

each hologram Oh, that's just for the first issue.

That's not for the first. That's just for issue.

You know Wow each hologram by artist Amy Meberson

um... plus the whole band by series artist ross

campbell in deluxe rainbow foil and hologram

collectible box a second box set for issue two

will feature another set of four covers by meberson

and a group shot by campbell this time starring

james greatest nemesis the misfits so the first

two issues you're going to be spending just for

the first two issues a crap ton of money Ask

how much I spend on my on my little pony variant

covers. Well, I know make you cry I know but

I'm just saying that I like I Originally thought

and I should know this because I put a podcast

on it about it this week But I originally thought

when I read the press release that it was the

first 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 issues and no it's All

different covers and rainbow foil covers and

boxes for the first two issues of the series

I ultimately would love to get a hologram Kimber

cover because I love that character He's an idiot

in the show. I think but I love her Cartoon crush

just saying yeah, please get off this uncomfortable

topic What what else came out this week I think

To not run over obscenely long Well with you

two, you know Doing your gem each other The Batman

Arkham Knight trailers, yeah that came out came

out interesting The first part was better than

the second part. Well, the second part hasn't

actually come out yet. That was a teaser for

the second part. The second part comes out the

sixth. OK, at the end of the first one, it says

come back on this date for the second part. And

at the end of the second one, it says come back

on this date for the end. It's in three parts.

The second part is with the Batmobile, and that's

not as cool as the first part. Well, I thought

it was just reused crap from the first one. I

could care less about the Batmobile. I think

it looks like, I think it looks so dumb. Talking

about the video game, right? Yes. Yes. Ah, yet

another on the review pile. God damn it. I want

that Batmobile edition, though. I want the Batmobile

and I want the game for PC. How the hell am I

going to convince the company to give that to

me? I'm curious like I and I agree with my wife

here We were watching it and obviously we're

watching it on YouTube and it's all compressed

and all those other stuff But it doesn't I didn't

see anything that yet in the game that has screamed

What yeah, like why is this like why is it only?

On those systems like I can't I can't even imagine

You know, Warner Brothers not wanting to hit

the 140 million PS3s and 360s that are out there.

Like, why are you limiting yourself to like 20

million consoles? Because now we're in that weird

transition phase between consoles. They want

to start driving the hardware sales. I think

this is different, and I don't think Warner Brothers

is that... I don't think Arkham is that game.

Like... Especially when Arkham is one of Warner

Brothers' biggest games? When does the game come

out? Before or after E3? June. I think it's the

week of E3, which means it's going to get buried

under E3 coverage, which is odd. I'm not knocking

the game or anything. I'm questioning the logic

behind not at least... at least not porting it

like why is there not a port like even if it's

not rock or uh rock city doing it why is there

not a port of this game maybe they can't do it

it's kind of like maybe uh dying light where

they scrapped the last gen versus the focus purely

on next well probably something we haven't seen

yet Well, I mean, Tomb Raider, I mean, the next

Tomb Raider is not just an Xbox one, it's also

on the 360 and it'll eventually come to the PS3

and PS4. So I don't know. Like that to me, like

that's a big to me, that's a bigger franchise

than Arkham. Like, but that's still hitting everything.

Like I, I don't. With Warner Brothers games not

being that big outside of like the Lego games

and Mortal Kombat, like it feels weird to limit

this game to two. specific platforms and that

install base. I'm just saying it feels weird

to me that it's only on those. Because I mean,

it's even weird. I mean, Ubisoft is the only

one that I've really seen do the whole like we're

only on next gen with this particular game, but

they still made one for the other guys. You know

what I'm saying? In this this console transition

is to me It doesn't feel like the other ones

did because a lot of what we're seeing is just

basically like graphical updates to things and

Some online social features that the other consoles

can't handle but aside from that stuff It's it's

weird to me when I still like do I want to see

games released just on next -gen hardware? Absolutely

It's just weird to me that to see a game like

this one giving up that huge install base. I

see like Microsoft, you know, they're releasing

Halo 5 only on Xbox One. There's gonna be no

360 version, but that's Microsoft using it to

sell Xbox Ones, and like Sony with Uncharted

4, they're gonna use that to sell PS4s. Unless

there was some kind of like money or incentive

from both companies, it's weird for Warner Brothers,

who was a third party, to not hit everything

they possibly could. That's all I'm saying. Like,

I'll be getting it for the PC only because I'm

not buying a new console. I mean, heck, even

Titanfall was hyped up as like, you know, the

Call of Duty killer for the Xbox One, but it

still had a 360 port. Like, I wish it had a 360

port because I'd rather play it there. But it's

not bad on PC. Well, I've got an Xbox 360 controller

and which I'm sure will work fine. And I just

I can't afford to buy a new console and I really

don't want to anyway. So I'm excited for Arkham.

I mean, hopefully it It's I'm hoping it's more

like origins but plays a lot plays more like

asylum in terms of it's just mechanic because

I felt like the It was just off. The timing was

all off with origin. I Think it'll be fine. I

think it'll be closer to its roots It looks pretty

as hell. Yes, it does But I think that's pretty

much it. Anybody got anything they want to bring

up before we go? No. I'm set. I'm good! Okay,

so those that haven't seen the GCR and Wards

round one part two is out for voting. Go ahead

and do that. I did notice that somebody mentioned

that It says icons when it should actually be

iconic characters because they're not all like

the First -tier iconic is to me. That means the

same thing. Yeah, I Agree when I see it. I think

I think icon is and that that's the main one

and iconic is like There's their main ones of

their games, but they're not necessarily. See,

if you say iconic, I still have there. I still

have issues with the list, but I'm just staying

out of it. I didn't make the list. I know you

didn't make the list. I'm innocent. I made the

image. I'm just I'm just staying out of it. So

but but yeah, go ahead and vote and do that.

That's going on right now. And then. next week

we start round two which i will say round one

and round two i'm thinking i'm going to be dead

on for my estimates and then uh or for round

one in its entirety round two i have a feeling

i know who's winning that too um i have two scenarios

that i've made that i think is going to it's

going to be one or the other it's either going

to be a a realistic uh outcome or it's going

to be a popularity outcome And I have one made

for each. I cry collusion if it's not Kirby.

What's that? I say collusion if it's not Kirby.

I don't think Kirby's gonna make it to the final

round. I just, I don't. But... Time will tell.

Um, so yes, uh... So that, there's that, and

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