Altered Geek
Apple Watch Launch Chaos, Transformers Expansion, and Batman v

About this Episode
Welcome to Altered Geek Unlimited episode 85.
I'm your host Steve Megatron Phillips and joining
me this week is Michael Booth Ninja Powers Yo,
how's it going? Pretty good Man I since Not a
lot of people are gonna care about this but it
has something to do with what we're we might
talk about on this show Since this Monday my
My wife and I, we ordered Apple watches. And
as of Monday, my wife's watch has gone and went
into prepared for shipping. And my watch is still
stuck in the processing phase. So I've just been
repeatedly like every 15 minutes on my phone
or on my computer, like just refreshing the page.
That sucks. So today was today was interesting,
though. because we Today was the day that you
know, it's reading comment sections on like Mac
rumors comm and stuff like that people were as
The week went on and people were getting more
and more irate because some people were getting
prepared to ship and they had Okay, for starters,
when you went online on April 10th and you went
to go pre -order something, immediately, within
like three minutes, the shipping window became
like the 24th to May 8th. And then two minutes
after that, it fell to May 13th through May 27th.
So my wife's watch that she got fell within the...
the April 24th, May 8th, and mine's in the May
13th to May 27th. And I order them within minutes
of each other, like at 3 .02 in the morning.
So as you can imagine, there are a number of
Apple fans out there that did the exact same
thing that I did, and some of them ended up with
like shipping times in June. Oh, wow. And what
was happening is, as the week would go on, people
that had shipping times in June were getting
prepared to ship notifications. And people that
had the 24th to the 8th were still stuck in the
processing phase. And so the comments were getting
more and more irate. And it came to a head this
morning, because I guess last night, in order
to address the issue that people were seeing,
Apple sent out an email which has been known
as the email of death. It was to reassure people
that had the April 24th to May 8th shipping window
that their orders were being processed as fast
as possible because people were getting mad.
I kind of understand where they're coming from.
At the same time, I think they're being completely
irrational about the whole thing. I know that
this launch, if you will, has been a complete
travesty. It's been a train wreck from the beginning,
mainly because they produced so many different
options for the watch, like the cheapest version
of the watch. There are six different versions
of it. It seems like overkill. And then the,
you know. Like the smallest, cheapest version,
there's six different versions of that. And then
in that same cheap version, they made a slightly
larger size and there's six versions of that.
And that's the Apple Watch Sport. So right there,
there are 12 versions of a watch. And then that's
just one tier. And then you move up another tier
and I think there's like another eight in that
one. So you're looking at 20 different combinations
of a watch. That people can buy which is unprecedented
for Apple. They don't do that kind of stuff.
They go You know, you've got This what should
have been what ended up being 20 watches should
have been more like 12 Because they produce like
their Apple watch sport came with like all the
different color bands Usually they would do two
color bands and then say you if you want a different
color than black or white You have to come buy
it So just kind of you know me being who I am
you know I'm following what's going on and reading
different articles and there are estimates that
they've already like pre -sold like two million
watches so I was talking with a friend today
and we're kind of like doing some math on the
whole thing because He and I both ordered the
same the same watch and we're both still sitting
here waiting for our watches to ship granted
Our stuff isn't supposed to ship until the middle
of the May, but we're still hopeful It's Just
just using the Apple watch sport as you know
the for the Simplification of the math if they
produce because they have 12 different watches
if they produced a hundred thousand of each of
those watches that's 1 .2 million watches that
they made and We know that they've roughly on
estimates. They've sold 2 million across all
of the, all 20 different versions. So... A lot
of people were complaining that, you know, I
got mine at like 3 .04 and the guy down the street
from me got his at 3, you know, 3 .04, but he's
getting it before me. That doesn't make any sense.
I think what it comes down to is, yeah, they
show you like down to the minute, like when your
order was placed, but what they don't show you
is like the second. that it was placed. And I
really think it came down to a matter of seconds
to grab the first wave of watches. That's funny,
but it makes sense. And so people, you know,
and people are mad and understandably not actually.
No, it's not understandable. I don't understand
why people are mad. I don't I. My buddy and I
were just like. Reading the forums and we're
just I was like we should make a bingo board
for like Apple product launches or product launches
in general because There's you know, you'll have
your free square and then one of them will be
like a lawsuit Like who's gonna be the first
person to mention filing a lawsuit? Because they
didn't get set product on launch day And it's
just trivial it is I sit back and I keep telling
myself, I've got one ordered. It will get to
me when it gets to me. And the joke I made was
most of these people, the way they're acting,
it's like they're going to lose the ability to
tell time tomorrow if they don't have this watch.
And I just want to go in these forums and be
like, how do you guys tell time right now? Like,
I don't know. On the flip side, though, this
launch like as I said earlier could have gone
better they shouldn't have had so many different
models they should have kept it simple like they
do with all their other products and I think
and there's a precedent for this now Apple being
as big of a company as they are they don't have
to do anything like I said they've already pre
-sold two million watches which trounces anything
that Android Wear has done and Pebble has done
like Apple is the king of another market. Even
though it's like tiny there's still the king
of it and they sold a premium product not They
sold a product at a premium versus You know like
$150 so It's for them. It's they just walked
into another market and took it over like they
did with the iPod and like they did with the
first iPhone I Say the first iPhone because I
don't want to get in the whole semantics of Android
and iOS But So they don't have to do anything,
but there's a precedent for them doing something
for customers that feel jilted When the first
iPhone came out they dropped the price of it
by about $100 like two months after it came out
and Sure, there were people out there that there
were people that had bought it that were mad
that they paid $100 more for it than the guy
that's gonna get the phone two months later Um,
I wasn't one of those people But my mom also
told me that I paid 100 bucks extra to get the
to get the phone two months before everybody
else will You know And that was kind of a cool
way to look at it But apple went above and beyond
and they gave everyone that had bought the phone
before Said price cut they gave them a hundred
dollar apple store credit Which you could redeem
for an iTunes gift card if you wanted to so it
doesn't have to be like I mean We all know how
expensive Apple products are I think I went and
bought an iPod shuffle because I couldn't think
of anything else to buy But and then when the
iPhone 4 came out they had the whole Antenna
issue where if you held the phone the wrong way
you might drop your phone call Yeah, they really
remember that they gave everyone a free case
that wanted one so I mean, it wasn't just like,
you know, it was it was one of their cases. It
was a free bumper, but you got to pick the color.
It wasn't just like you can only have a black
one. It was pick one of our pick one of our cases
and you can have it as you know, because you
think we screwed up. Here you go. So I feel like
this time around because it's a watch and they're
trying to sell like different watch bands. I
think they're going to give people like a $50
store credit. Because $50 will get you a sport
band which are like the the rubbery fitness type
band But you could also put it towards $50 off
a more expensive band So like the $50 number
at least gives people the option to get a free
a free band or a discount off of a more expensive
one so I think Again, they don't have to do anything,
but that's my prediction about what's gonna happen
to make to make this right Even though they don't
have to And I don't think they did anything wrong
because technically no one's missed their shipping
windows Because nobody was promised to watch
on the 24th So But that's been like my entire
week just like reading these comments and seeing
how mad these people get and it makes me feel
like a good person Well, you're not complaining
over trivial garbage either no, I'm just saying
it just it just makes me feel I read this stuff
I'm like man, I feel like a Decent person It
amazes me how worked up people get I Mean I shouldn't
say that it amazes me because it kind of you
know They're just a lot of people that get worked
up over their gadgets, but especially their Apple
gadgets And that's the other thing and then there's
some people that just what kind of like you that
just? Understands it kind of takes all these
variables. Oh, it's like I've got my place. I
have my place in line It's not like they're gonna
just I'm not Not gonna get one, you know, I don't
and maybe this kind of goes in what we were talking
about last week or like the week before like
It's We're kind of victims of what we want to
see or hear about. Yeah, we were talking about
the trailers the overexposure to trailers Like
I don't see like I'm an Apple fan But I try to
follow all of them like Android and the window
and Windows and stuff like that to just so I
know what's going on But I don't ever feel like
those phones or those operating systems or those
companies even get this kind of fervor around
them. It's interesting to see this. But then
again, like I said, I can't follow an Android
thing because there's a new one every week. There
isn't something for people to rally behind. That's
true and in the in the problem that Apple is
having is a problem that they all want to have
But they they they don't so But anyways, yeah,
that's what I've been doing just you know, we're
constantly refreshing my phone and I mean I've
got my order page opened up here and I'm constantly
refreshing the page just in the hopes that it
Switches over to prepare for shipping Because
even though it does say like the middle of May
Apple has a tendency to under promise and over
deliver Okay, so like almost everything I've
ever ordered from them arrives before they say
it will So I've got that I've got that going
for me but That's pretty much it I mean, I've
been following like other stuff that we'll talk
about here in a little bit, but Yeah Yeah, I've
I had to do the first presentation of the The
Joker dialogue thing that I'd mentioned yeah,
how I was gonna have to do how'd that go? My
nerves got the better of me It went well, but
I was so nervous I thought I was gonna like have
a heart attack Even though it wasn't Anything
that was super difficult to do It's not like
I haven't done the voice before it's just I think
it's because I'm standing there in a classroom
and Freaking out because of that. Yeah So I I
know what I have to do now, but also I think
it's gonna make it easier being that uh he gave
the option and our teacher did that uh Monday
the students can Choose to do their their vocal
thing a day early so we can either have a practice
one on Tuesday or we can actually do our final
presentation and just be done with it. Mm -hmm
So what I'll probably do is I'll probably because
I have to go there the last day anyway because
I have to finish another Partner scene thing
that the other guy that I don't need it, but
the other guy needs it So therefore I have to
show up So I'm gonna end up doing mine the final
day which means probably half of them won't be
there anyway So it'll make it easier on me But
yeah, so did that and then Dealing with the site
going up down up down up down all week I have
no idea why. And then working on my garage, which
I mentioned to you off -air. Yeah, I have that
to look forward to when it gets to be spring
and stays spring. Oh, you mean that show up for
75 degrees and then go back to the 40s? Yeah,
that one. That was just ridiculous. I was sad.
Sad? That's something I'll get mad about. And
that's something I have zero control over. The
weather? Mm -hmm. I hate the weather, especially
in Michigan. I know everybody else is getting
hammered with it too, but... I'll get mad about
it because that means I have to spend money heating
my house. That's true So But so do we want to
get into the Stuff of the week. Yeah Okay Well
real quick just up front. This is kind of one
the thing I want to talk about but I'll just
get it out of the way Because Earth Day was this
week This is the earth I I've been using LED
light bulbs in, I had them in like almost every
light bulb in my old home and I've been trying
to, my new house has a lot more lights in it.
So I replaced all the lights in the rooms that
my wife and I use with LEDs. Like I brought all
my LED bulbs from my old home. Over here and
put them in all the rooms that we readily use
like the bedroom the family room the kitchen
They have LED bulbs But their LED balls are kind
of expensive But Starting in May for Earth Day
Lowe's or not Lowe's sorry Home Depot and Phillips
are getting together and for 90 days for the
first 90 days starting in May They are going
to offer basically a buy one get one free on
Phillips 60 watt equivalent LED bulbs So you'll
get two for five bucks hmm, which is good because
Most that I mean even like the home the house
brand LED bulbs from like from Lowe's or Home
Depot are like 253 bucks and this is a name brand
two for five. So 250 for a name brand bulb. So
my wife's given me permission to go buy like
50 bucks worth of bulbs as soon as they have
them. So, yeah, I just wanted to throw that out
there because Earth Day and I'm all about keeping
my electric bill low and, you know, proper lighting
for a home and I'm obsessed with it. I'm obsessed
with lighting in general I get pissed off when
I'm at the movie theater and I look down the
hallway and I find that the night crew has replaced
Like one bulb in the hallway with a cooler light
than the other ones and I can see it And it just
annoys the crap out of me So anyways, that's
all I wanted to do right at the top Okay, what
do you want to talk about first? Well Comcast
is Dropping its bid for time Warner Yeah, as
of today. I don't know how that would have affected
us But it doesn't it would affect Blanchard He
has time Warner So no Comcast for him Well, I
don't know if he's lucky or not. I don't know
either. I don't know what the difference is Infrastructure,
I mean I don't Don't know Maybe they could have
faster internet faster If they had merged together,
I don't know Yeah, I don't know I don't know
what the what's deal I mean, I know that it was
a big deal. I just don't know what exactly was
It just would have made them the biggest provider
of TV and internet in the United States So I
Think that's what I that's why they were seeing
so much opposition from it So because it would
remove a lot of competition So I think there's
there's Comcast and Time Warner cable for Cape
for cable And then I know there's charter, but
I don't think they mean anything yeah, and then
There's Verizon and AT &T and for TV over TV
over internet. And then there's DirecTV and Dish
Network. So there are three ways to get TV. And
basically you would have it. It would have come
down and there are six companies and three way
three. Sorry, three ways to get TV and six big
companies. If this had happened, you would have
ended up with three ways to get big TV and five
companies. And I think that's what they were
trying to avoid. I could see that. It's called
the Monopoly. Hey, that's like the cave. I think.
Or whatever they call it here. I'm sure I'll
get schooled. Yeah, I'm sure So yeah, oh They
released the bot con information oh I today you
were thrilled about this. Yeah, I was kind of
pissed Because I'm going for this the Saturday
I'm not doing the whole weekend thing three -day
thing because it's 60 bucks for the whole weekend
and it's 20 bucks for just the day pass Which
there's no kind of discount whereas late TF con
They give you a discount Depending on how many
days you do like it's 45 bucks for the whole
weekend, but it's 20 bucks for the Saturday and
like 20 bucks for the Sunday and 15 for the Friday
or something or I Don't know it maybe it's like
25 for 30 for one of the days room, but they
I know they give you a discount but They don't
charge you for autographs At TF con what's you
know, that's good. I don't That's so weird to
me. It's a fan convention, fan run convention.
It's not like the official Transformers Collectors
convention type thing like BotCon has turned
into. And this is the full details on it. They
released it today. It says the Frank Welker VIP
pass, which this is the first time he's ever
gone to a convention as a actual guest. He's
the voice of the original Megatron Freddy and
shit and scooby from scooby -doo and Among other
characters that he's done over the years millions
of characters, but uh His VIP pass it says this
package upgrade allows you to access the the
guests and this is It's in addition to the cost
of your primus or golden ticket primus package
which those normally run anywhere from like 250
to four like 400 dollars depending because they
come with the toys and a bunch of other crap
and then you get preferred everything uh and
it says you must also be a transformers collectors
club member to take advantage of this event which
means you have to spend another 50 bucks or 40
bucks or something to be a club member The the
Frank Walker pass includes one autograph signed
in person by Frank Walker one audit one professional
5x7 photograph with Frank Walker On the Saturday
it says exclusive Megatron art print exclusive
Megatron pin first seating at the Frank Walker
panel No photography at the panel are Permitted
during the autograph session. That's what it
is. This is the cost is $200 added to your golden
ticket or Primus package So in addition to spending
you know, two to two to four hundred dollars
plus the extra forty bucks plus that two You
know, you're spending two hundred dollars for
him You're looking at like almost like half a
grand just to talk to one guy. That's crazy Yeah,
and like I I want to see the guy but I just I
could never justify that and I would not pay
extra like I would Paid like say, you know If
they were gonna have them there like if it was
50 bucks to see him Sure, you know Because he's
never goes and he's Megatron and you know, he
kind of has been in everything but You know same
time. I think what is it Stan Lee does for like
a hundred and something like 125 or something
And that's the creator Marvel Comics but yeah,
and then it says for the The walk -in on Saturday
or Sunday and you want to meet guests other than
Frank Walker This is an autograph wristband can
be purchased for 20 bucks that gives you access
to the autograph line as many times as you want
to the other guests That's crazy, but if but
if you buy the the the upgraded packages you
get see the guests for free the autograph guess
I don't know I just can't it almost makes me
not want to go just because of like in spite
of this entire like cost gouging there's other
stuff you get out of it isn't there yeah there's
other stuff but like TF con I got so much out
of it and I spent 25 bucks I got all the panels
I got I get to meet Scott McNeil which is four
characters on beast wars uh and various characters
on like mega man and stuff like that so he uh
he was super cool and i'd talk to him for like
10 minutes he and that's why his line took so
damn long was because i actually it actually
ran over through a couple different um panels
i missed an entire panel i was planning on going
to because i was in line waiting for him but
it's because everybody he uh uh Gave an autograph
to he'd autographed whatever you brought up to
him. You could bring up five things and he'd
sign them all and then he He sat there and he'd
BS with you for about five ten minutes and then
you take a picture with you and You know off
you go see that's that's and he actually he sat
there and ate his lunch there So that he could
keep hanging out with the fans. That's nice So
like him I had like profound, you know respect
for At the con right away But so far they've
got the voice act actress that played RC in generation
one Megatron from generation one among other
characters, which is Welker and then they've
got John Mochida jr. Who's blur Okay in the generation
one and in transformers animated so Which you
know, I mean, I think it'd be cool to see them
all I'm mostly going because I'm gonna go with
my brothers and then Meet some of the other people
we know through the fandom that I don't know
in person, but I know online so It'll turn into
a fun event. It's just that the voice actor thing
is kind of a downer because they they're gonna
gouge you for every little thing you do It's
cuz they can I know this has bro That's all I
have to say It's the same reason they're making
us a cinematic universe out of transformers when
there's not one there. Well now I'm curious about
that because I Kind of thought that that's what
they did already Well, they're talking about
expanding it but I don't know how they're planning
on doing that like I mean, it's it's typically
like villain of the week movie and a lot of explosions
and no good story. I don't want to get into that
side of the whole thing. I felt like that's what
it was already. You've got your four movies deep.
They're all connected to each other. Some more
than others. I feel like four is directly involved
with three, which is fine. uh maybe they're just
maybe they mean that starting with five they'll
have like a like if you look at the look at this
way uh the first four are like the angel on top
of the christmas tree uh and five is where the
christmas tree actually starts i guess maybe
i can kind of see that but i really don't see
where they could go Well, I mean they left open
Megatron's revival at the end of four but But
they could tell they could tell and they've done
a lot of setup for things they could tell like
the the Dinobot story They could even God forbid
they tread on this holy ground for you, but they
could do Beast Wars. I hope not I'm just saying
like there's stuff that they've mentioned that
they definitely could Turn into movies so I Think
I think they'd benefit from a GI Joe crossover
So having just the military just have GI Joe
crossover with it because what military? That's
what well they've had little military people
show up in the first three you know what I think
was a better Transformers movie than Transformers
Is it Prometheus no or not Prometheus um I'm
gonna get blasted for saying this. I know I am
go ahead and say it. It's battleship I have not
actually seen that I Had that movie like that
movie was Set sent to die on the name alone because
people laughed it off as They made a movie based
on a board game And I think anyone that's actually
sat down to watch it has enjoyed it or thought
it was at least fun and the way that they they
they even found found a way to integrate some
of the board game things in a not cheesy manner
not only that i feel like you know they're they're
essentially fighting giant robots i mean it was
made by hasbro right and so they there's a lot
of Transformers influence in there, like the
lens flares from, you know, the lens flares are
all there, the sounds are almost all identical,
outside of them not being or turning into vehicles,
they, you know, they look like Transformers before
they take on their, you know, their disguise.
But the military presence in that movie is what
is what throws it over the top for me, because
it has a strong military presence. It is actually
the military defeating the aliens. And if you
watch in the Transformers movies, there's a strong
military presence in the first one. And they
even come up with they even develop or realize
they have a way of fighting back against these
things. But that never comes up again. And we
are always at the mercy of the Autobots saving
us. I feel like that is one of the things that
annoys me the most about Transformers. I know
that you and some other people, they want it
to be more about the robots and less about the
people. Well, I think if it was meaningful people
instead of what they keep giving us... That's
what I was saying if they possibly merged it
with like and I've heard people say, you know
Mix it with mask or mix mix it with GI Joe or
I think if they mixed it with GI Joe I think
it would help it actually because neither one
I mean, yeah Transformers is a cash cow, but
it doesn't necessarily mean it's good It's a
I mean, yeah, it's a shut off your brain action
flick that and it's good as far as the actions
concerned with the story just blows in my opinion,
but I think if they added the GI Joe element
they could have meaningful characters that Could
take down the transformers. Okay, in essence
basically like the crossover comics that they
had for Like image and devils do all right barely
meaningful characters. They would be adding I
mean, I'll give you that they're all barely meaningful.
You're still stepping into me. You're still stepping
outside of What? I think the military would be
capable of doing. I'm not saying I want to see
the US Armed Forces take on the Transformers.
I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying,
I don't know. I don't like the way they're portrayed
in that. And I thought that I saw everything
was better portrayed in Battleship than it was
in Transformers. So and I'm not saying you know
battleship should win any kind of Academy Awards
or anything like that But I think if you sit
down and you put put aside the fact that it's
you know called battleship and it's they the
premise was came out of a board game I I think
you it's you can actually have some fun with
it so Yeah, but the connected universe thing
I you know I think they'll they'll pull it off.
They'll they'll do something Now with the connected
universe thing though, at least you get to see
somebody else direct transformers So they say
okay Michael Bay is not gonna direct They're
probably gonna I'm in six. No, they're gonna
want to pull off. Um Like what Disney's doing
or Marvel that and one director is not gonna
be able to handle that That's what I'm saying
They're probably gonna try to do like two movies
a year like everybody else is So it won't be
Michael Bay doing two transformers movies every
year So yeah, I guess I kind of see that so start
you can you can start doing like your dream casting
Who would you like to see? You know direct to
transformers movie Guillermo del Toro. Maybe
the guy that did the Battleship movie or the...
That was Peter Berg. Or the Fast and the Furious
director since it's just throwing metal at each
other anyway. Yeah, I could see either one of
those. I could also see Guillermo del Toro. Especially
after watching Pacific Rim. People that actually
understand interaction between humans and robots.
Yeah, maybe Steven Spielberg could actually do
one. Instead of just producing it. Yeah, except
he's busy because He's doing BFG for Disney and
He's after that he's supposed to do a novel that
I just got done reading which is ready player
one so Not saying he couldn't it would just be
a long time So Maybe JJ can do a Transformers
movie Lens, but it'll be just a giant lens flare
Though just be horrible voiceover. I'm just pulsing
pulsing lens flares as people talked like stars
Try to remember what that was from I know there's
like a TV show or a movie Oh, it's like the scene
in Futurama where Bender is talking to God Have
you seen that episode? Of what one future Rama
where Bender is talking to God. I Don't think
I've seen that now. It's one of my favorite episodes
just a couple of good lines that I absolutely
love in there but God in this case is a cluster
of stars and when the voice actor is speaking
as God the stars light up like us What are those
things called the when the audio goes along with
them like a visualizer Okay, anyways got off
that's funny You want to keep going in the expanded
universe thread because there's galaxy quest
That I wouldn't mind I'm Depending I want to
know what I want to know if it's gonna be more
galaxy quest like the movie or if it's going
to be the actual tv show that the movie was like
the behind the scenes of you know what i'm saying
yeah i don't really know like is it are we going
to be watching like like a show within a show
yes or is it going to be like star trek but in
the galaxy quest universe which is essentially
what the show is like that's that's what i want
to do the other thing i'm kind of laughing at
here is galaxy quest ends up on TV before Star
Trek that's just a joke but I'd like to see that
I mean I'll I mean I'd give it a watch so I don't
think they're gonna get anybody from the movie
to come back so that'll be it'll be interesting
to see how they frame that TV show Yeah, I really
doubt they'd get anybody from the movie Well,
I mean Tim Allen's back on TV and Tony Shalhoub
is a TV guy so Could end up with some cameos
that's true Which would be nice but again, I
don't know I'm not I don't have a soft spot my
heart for Galaxy quest I just thought for me
this story was interesting because of what I
said before if it ends up on TV before Star Trek
does So that's why I wanted to bring it up All
righty Um, how about Disney's movie release schedule?
Oh Dear lord, I don't even know where to start.
It's a mess. I don't know. It's not if you Because
of the way they presented it in that photo That
slide yes, it looks like a mess, but once you
put everything down you realize everything has
like a specific specific specific month It's
not so bad They are spaced out pretty well other
than the month of May there's usually two movies
every May Yeah, it's what it's looking like from
what I can tell. Damn, my computer's being stupid.
Sorry. So when I was looking at this, the two
things that stuck out to me, first of all, is
there anything on this list that stands out to
you? As far as what I want to see? No, no, no,
just like kind of odd, maybe, that you weren't
expecting to see on here? Well, one, I didn't.
under I didn't Does that say dream works ghost
in the show there you go So I didn't expect to
see what I didn't expect to see ghosts in the
shell Because it it does it says dreamers right
over top of it The other thing I didn't expect
to see is bridge of spies, which is another dream
works movie I Wonder if they're in because I
know dream works isn't doing all that hot Well,
I think this is just another We'll make the movie,
you distribute it for us. Ah. I'm pretty sure
that's what this is. But yes, I don't think they're
they're not doing that hot anymore. So I think
they've kind of gone back to maybe they've always
been this way. I don't know. I feel like they've
always been a production studio and never a distributor.
Like they've always made movies for Paramount.
So now I guess it would be interest. It's interesting
that Paramount's losing all their stuff to Disney
I Find it actually kind of funny because Disney
owns Pixar and then they're possibly, you know
I mean, I I'm gonna make this prediction that
they're gonna eventually buy Dreamworks and Just
fold it into Disney. Well Dreamworks animation
was already sold to somebody else Dreamworks
animation and Dreamworks are two totally different
studios Well, so they wouldn't be getting wait
wasn't universal the one that bought The animation
studio part possibly, but I know that like how
to train your dragon is distributed by Fox Okay,
maybe that maybe it was Fox that bought it. I
don't I don't know I don't know. So those were
the two that stood out to me one Well, first
of all, I didn't even know what bridge of spies
was I I still don't know what bridge of spies
is Anything you're disappointed in seeing on
this list Toy Story 4 yeah, there we go Because
especially it's not even not even gonna focus
on the original characters and I think they wrapped
it up pretty well with the third one and Then
they had the digital shorts to kind of expand
a bit not really kind of choke us to death with
a you know Mm -hmm. It's just showing that they're
still continuing, you know in their little journeys,
but it's like, you know, like a five -minute,
you know Episode of the kids playing basically.
It's not Not a full -blown movie plot going and
you know because half those guys are On their
way out the door anyway, right? But the stuff
I hear that I'm not familiar with like I don't
know what finest hours is Never heard of it until
now Zootopia. I'm guessing that might be like
a You know March of the Penguins type thing hmm
possibly jungle book. I know there's another
jungle book Being made to Think two studios are
working on jungle book movies See I knew about
Alice I knew about Dory unfortunately Pete's
dragon I was I didn't know about I didn't know
about that or the Zootopia or the finest hours.
Moana? I have no idea what that is. I didn't
know anything about that. So like basically what's
interesting about this is the same type of slide
they used when Marvel got up and announced their
slate of movies. And this is just a two -year
window right here. Yeah, this is insane. This
is more movies than what Marvel has for their
next five. And then, I mean, you've got two,
you've got one, two, three, four Marvel movies.
Well, five Marvel movies. Sorry, five. You have
one, two... Three Star Wars. Three Star Wars,
four Pixar, sorry. Two DreamWorks. And 2018 is
gonna be a repeat of this because actually the
fall of... They're gonna have another Avengers
movie another Star Wars movie well the fall of
2017 I think is supposed to have The next Star
Wars anthology movie Huh because it's Well, no,
it's Star Wars episode 8 is coming. Yeah, they're
not may of 17, but there's something I think
they wanted one a one a year That's what they
were going for. So yeah, maybe okay. So yeah,
maybe one Star Wars film Per year. Yeah, so 18
maybe the the second anthology film. Yep So I'm
surprised pirates is pushed out as far as it
is, but you know what that's gonna come up so
fast It it will it'll come up so fast but it
wasn't the last one made like three years ago
I Think it was longer than that Four years ago.
No, it came out in 2011. Yeah. So long ago. It's
been a while. So, I mean, that's Johnny Depp's,
I mean... But they're shooting it now, so...
Yeah, they're shooting it now. So, I mean, that'll
help, but... I don't know. I... I think they
were trying to turn this one, because this will
be the fifth and the sixth into another kind
of a... Two -part type thing kind of like they
did with the previous set but this one like Seeing
its location on this map makes Pirates of the
Caribbean the fifth one look like such an afterthought
Like yeah, that's pretty it's like oh we were
we were going into production on Pirates of the
Caribbean and then we bought Marvel So and and
Star Wars. Yeah, we bought Marvel's and Star
Wars while we were working on the fifth one We
don't really need it anymore so And we have Tomorrowland.
We don't. We don't. I'm excited for Tomorrowland.
That actually looks pretty good, actually, for
once. One of their ride movies looks good again.
So I don't I don't think any of their films that
have been based off a ride have looked as good
since the first Pirates movie. And I like Brad
Bird, so you know what's absent from this list,
though? What? Incredibles 2. Oh, yeah, they were
talking about doing another one, weren't they?
Yeah. Because he's doing the he's doing the rounds
for Tomorrowland. He hasn't confirmed if he's
directing but he said that he's writing so It'll
come out 2018 to me personally if he's not directing
it. I don't care. I Love the Incredibles, but
I love the Incredibles because of all of its
parts not yet. It was a spectacular movie. So
Alright Anything else you want to talk about?
I'm wondering... You watched the Batman vs Superman
trailer? I did. Yes. I know we talked about it
the other day off air. I know you had to watch
it several times before it won you over. Yeah,
I did not like it whatsoever when I first saw
it. Was sold the second I saw it. I mean, but
I I mean there was it the only negative thing
I've had towards this movie was when we started
recording alter -geek unlimited and we Literally
went through like the was like five stages of
grief or whatever You know Ben Affleck being
cast like alive like in the recording That was
the only negative thing I've had about this movie
everything else. I'm like, all right Okay Like
they keep like adding people to it. I'm like
fine Let's just let's see how this works out
like and I don't know. I know that I was talking
with some people at work about it and they were
bummed because it still doesn't tell them anything
about the movie and I don't know. I i've taken
this weird stance with trailers and we talked
about this last week when we were talking about
um Genesis like Terminator Genesis and that trailer
like I've stopped I will watch the first trailer
and I will not watch a second trailer because
especially if I'm on Twitter and it comes out
and someone Tweets out that well that just gave
away the movie. I won't watch it like so the
fact that this trailer doesn't say anything about
the movie like Other than just get me excited
for it. I I don't care. I don't want to see another
trailer Yeah, well I get another trailer, but
I'm really hoping it doesn't spoil the crap out
of the movie I Mean that that should be something
we talked about at a later date of how bad trailers
have gotten But Yeah, I was kind of disappointed
what they did with the trailer I I thought it
was kind of overkill But like I said when I was
talking to you about it they They've done that
with the other Terminator movies too, so Kind
of handed away their their bag of tricks before
You know they Just right from the gate. So yeah,
I will say this Batman is huge and I'm not he's
a I'm not just saying that and when he's in like
the mech suit or whatever he's huge and Like
I said when we were out to lunch I think that's
because they've kind of went you know they went
the reverse with his costume like the the armor
plating is underneath the The stretchy spandex
II stuff So it's like the opposite of like the
bail suit so I feel like that's why he looks
so huge It's it's not because Ben Affleck Ben
Affleck is big don't get me wrong i feel like
he looks huge because of the way that they designed
the suit where the armor is now underneath the
costume instead of like over top of it which
is fine and it's exactly what we thought it would
look like so yep it was if you go back and listen
to the earlier episodes of the podcast we predicted
that suit and i'm completely happy with it I'm
happy with like all of it maybe because like
I don't Maybe it's because I don't see a lot
of things with like Ben Affleck in it but when
they show him as Bruce I didn't really like I
Saw I saw Bruce I guess it is dumb as that sounds
So I can see that It actually kind of looked
like you know, just how he was Yeah, I like the
narration that Alfred gives the pep talk the
yeah get your ass out of the cave Yep. Yeah,
it's your ass up and get going Do we want your
job Batman? Do you want to talk predictions for
the movie? Yeah, we can do that and then and
then close it out. I Personally, I think the
most telling thing in Looking at everything that's
leaked out about this movie from them wanting
an older Batman that was you know kind of done
more or less like he was doing his Batman things
solely from the cave sending out drones and whatnot
and from everything given all that information
and what we learned what I got out of the trailer
was I feel like Superman is gonna be painted
as the villain here and Batman will be the hero.
I think Batman is actually going to help the
Man of Steel become Superman. And the reason
I say that is because we do have evidence of
the drones in the trailer. That is not the Batwing.
That is a drone. That is way too small to be
a Batwing. And I feel like Alfred's pep talk
gives it the way the most. Bruce's he's I feel
like in that state with that speech he's like
he's done and Alfred saying like you can't be
done you need to go and like be the world's greatest
detective if you will you know you need to figure
this guy out um I feel like that's what that
speech is like get your ass out of the cave and
go do something you can't just send drones after
this guy um so where that fight takes place though
Don't know. I don't think it's the end of the
movie though so I'm guessing the beginning somewhere
like first hour of the movie and then they actually
discover their villain so What do you what do
you think? I? Mean now that you've kind of brought
that up. I think I kind of agree with you. I
wasn't really sure what to think to begin with
But they almost have kind of that Dark Knight
returns where they have, in the comic, the people
on the radio and the TV conversing about Batman
being great and then other people saying, oh,
he's a menace, he's terrible, blah, blah, blah.
I think they're doing that with Superman here.
And then I think Luthor, I think, is going to
be the one that kind of takes center stage to
develop a way to attack him and hate him and
everything because it's stealing his thunder.
from maybe the news or something. I'm not quite
sure what they're going to have him do yet, but
it should be interesting to see how that plays
out. Again, I'm not quite sure what their plan
is there. Maybe towards the end, you'll start
seeing them deciding to gather other people for
a league of... justice Since it's supposed to
be the dawn of justice in this I almost wish
the rumor of them breaking it into two parts
would have been true Because then they could
have called it dawn of justice and Justice League.
No, the rumor was it was dawn of justice and
then enter the night Okay Now I say that for
twofold one because I think of that as a two
-parter I feel like Enter the Night makes Dawn
of Justice sound better. Not only that, I want
to see... I want to see somebody... It doesn't
have to be Warner Brothers, but they had a perfect
chance to do this. I want to see somebody try
to do what Warner Brothers tried to do with The
Matrix, which was release the sequels six months
apart from each other. Like in this day and age
of like the franchise and like the the two -part
movies and stuff like that I feel like everyone's
kind of like a year a year between sequels is
is like it right because you've got like Hunger
Games and like Saw and Insurgent and Twilight
they were all like a year apart But I feel like
Audiences might be ready for especially when
it's like a two -part movie. I feel like they
might be ready for the six -month thing again.
I Don't know. I just thought it would have been
interesting because that was like the original
plan I think they were gonna the rumor was you
know, you've got the March release and then they
released the sequel in October Like part two
would be October. So Hmm. I just wish it would
have happened one Because I would love five hours
of Batman versus Superman. Instead, I'm not I'm
not going to say I wouldn't watch it because
I know I would instead bro. We'll get like two
hours and 45 minutes. That's OK. Yeah. So I think
that's it this week. I mean, and I hope we get
some comments on it. We did get some comments
last week on the show. We were really harsh on
Arrow. I know. And it wasn't that we were trying
to be harsh on it, and if you want to hear what
we had to say in full, it's in the comments on
last week's episode post. But yeah, it was just
kind of saying that Daredevil more or less put
the bar higher that the other ones have to strive
to hit. And each one, it seems like each show
that comes out anyway does that to the previous
one. It's just people have gotten used to what
they've seen so far. See, also, I think part
of it, to be fair here, is it's personal taste,
right? Yeah. Some people don't have a problem
with what Arrow's doing, or they don't have a
problem with what Flash is doing. It's the reason
why... People like the Marvel movies but don't
like the DC movies like tone everything like
it's all personal taste. I I feel like I feel
like flash is better than arrow and Arrow is
better than agents of shield but to me daredevil
just like takes the cake like all around because
it it has I don't know if Flash would work with
daredevils tone like and I don't mean like tone
isn't like Seeing people's limbs get broken and
the visceral nature of Daredevil, I don't think
that would work with Flash. But I also don't
know if the darker tone would work for Flash,
because Flash is kind of a happy -go -lucky character.
I do know, because we've seen it in Season 2,
that Daredevil's tone works with Arrow, and that
low -level street... Crime stuff works with arrow
But yeah, whatever we talked about that last
week and it's all in the comments so pretty much
So anything else you want to bring up before
we close it out? No, no, no, no other than we're
gonna record an episode for the new off -the
-cuff, but So people cause that have have that
to look forward to in the next couple weeks here.
Yes. So yeah, all right then. So thank you for
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