Jared Leto’s Joker, Agents of SHIELD’s MCU Ties, Marvel Casting Spoilers, Dragon Ball GT’s Retcon, and the Smartwatch Movement

Welcome to altered geek unlimited episode 86.

I'm your host Steve Megatron Phillips and joining

me as usual is Michael Booth ninja powers Hello

Yes, we are back Yay We're back a lot of pop

culturally things happening over the week well

Sure some relevant some not I think I think of

the things we chose to talk about I think there's

three on here that might be relevant somewhat

as being like you know confirmed things and then

some things that might fizzle out well and other

others that are just like you know rumors so

do we want to go in the order that we've got

in that order since the hot button thing anyways

was uh leto's joker pick that Shot around the

internet like wildfire Yeah Creep It it's interesting

right because we saw the whole thing blew up

and shot around the internet and then Warner

Brothers came out and said that the tattoos aren't

a thing It was a publicity stunt which I Don't

know may or may not have been true it yeah exactly

because at this point it's like they're they're

They're pandering to us that are whining Exactly,

and that's it's something that's easy enough

to remove And I've had a number of conversations

about this with with some people I I'm coming

out from the side of I'm okay with it And you

were coming at it from the side of I Don't like

it. Okay. Well, I don't think it was more so

I come at it from two different standpoints.

I have this ability that, yes, I'm like, blanchored

in some ways, that I'm close -minded on it. Like,

I don't like the change. But at the same time,

I'm open -minded like you are. I can understand

the change. So I'm kind of stuck on this fence

of wanting to hate it, but wanting to like it

at the same time. But really not knowing why

I want one or the other. I mean, I want... I

don't have a problem with the rest of how he

looks because he looks like a freaky madman.

He really does. But I want to hate it because

of his, well, you know, the whole tattoo thing.

That just doesn't jive with me all that well.

But at the same time... You know, like they said,

it's you know, the 75th anniversary promotion

thing I think what threw me more than the tattoos

on his chest because I didn't really bother me

all that much it was the the damaged on his head

and then the J and like some of the random tattoos

on his face and then the chromed out teeth So

the only tattoo I noticed on his face was the

one on the forehead forehead Which was the damaged

moniker and you had a J on on the other cheek

and then he had like a line on his other cheek

hmm Let's see, but it's the damaged one that,

and I say this because I, that's the only one

that I remember seeing, the damaged one or any,

okay, I'll just say this, any tattoos on his

face are the ones that I personally would have

a problem with. Yeah, that's more so what I would

have a problem with. The chest stuff, I was like

you, I didn't really care as much on the chest.

It was the face thing that threw me. Because

when you sit back and you think about it, we

all know that he's gonna be in a suit of some

kind. It's either going to be an orange jumpsuit

or it's going to be his purple jumpsuit. Or it

could be a straight jacket. Or that. I'm just

saying we're probably not we're probably not

going to see him topless or shirtless, but we

might. Don't know. Just saying. Joker typically

has not been shown shirtless. So the only thing

that, you know, when he's in costume, the only

thing that would give away that he has tattoos

of any kind are the ones that would be on his

face. So when I saw that, I was kind of like,

you know, whatever. You know, I mean, but it

was the one that was on the forehead that, you

know, got me. And then I'm trying to find a picture

of it, what we're talking about it so I can see

those other tattoos, but whatever. A couple of

interesting things about the tattoos that were

brought up was the smile on his arm. If he was

to, you know, grab a hostage and put his arm

around their mouth, like around their neck covering

their mouth, it would look like they had a big

Joker smile on their face. That's funny. Which,

again, kind of interesting. The other way that

I took it was that. This is a this isn't like

this is a Joker. I would think this is like a

Joker interpretation past the Joker that we got

from Heath Ledger. And what I mean by that is

time wise. So Jack Nicholson's film version of

the Joker was an origin tale, right? And Ledger's

was I've been around for a while and I feel like

Leto's Joker is I've been around for a very long

time. Which is fitting with the Batman that's

been around for a very long time and I would

imagine that he's been locked up several times

and Maybe not always in you know Arkham or you

know and so I would imagine somebody as Crazy

as he is may take it upon himself in his boredom

to do something like this to himself. I do think

the Joker is like intelligent and whatnot, but

I feel like he's more and he's very capable of

forming a plan. But I don't think he so much

does plans as in as as in like we think about

them, which is like, you know, sit down and figure

out how to do something. I think he just figures

out I want to rob a bank and then he's just going

to go do it. And he's going to roll with whatever

happens. But I I Don't know and I feel like that's

like the kind of just from this one photo. I

Don't know. It didn't really it didn't really

offend me because if I and in keep in mind, I

like Nicholson's Joker the ish I like Ledger's

Joker a lot and I like Mark Hamill as the Joker

but if I wanted their interpretations of the

of Joker I would watch them It's just it's kind

of it's it's kind of the same thing, you know

with except it happened for some reason it happened

a lot Faster with this image of the Joker than

it did when we heard Ben Affleck was gonna play

Batman Yeah, there was a lot of people saying

oh the shitty daredevil is gonna be Batman and

and which was going around too but and it to

begin with you know, kind of like how we we Jumped

into that we were like, oh That's gonna be bad.

And then we're like, okay, what could be good

about this though, right? I mean we eventually

came to accept it, which I think I'm at that

stage now I think the initial shock has worn

off Because I was hating on it something terrible

when I saw it I was like, oh we got a crackhead

Yay, to me. That's kind of what the Joker was

blind, but you know I just didn't like the chrome

tee thing and the tattoos on his face, but other

than that I thought he looked fine. He looks

freaky as hell, more so than any of the previous

ones. I saw an image floating around earlier

in the week and I grabbed it. They have all four

jokers live action. They have Cesar Romero and

it says classy underneath him. They have Jack

Nicholson's and it says... Gangster they have

Heath Ledger's it says anarchist, and then they

have Leto's and it says psycho It's fine with

me, and I was like that's oddly fitting for all

the different interpretations Because there's

you know I mean he's jokers a genius, but he's

mad like just nuts so I mean there's he's basically

like The polar opposite of Batman which is why

they're so Tied together and I think you'll get

that I do I I don't I think the interpreter like

to me there's there's two sides of I don't say

two sides because I think like Okay, think about

this like okay. I'll look at this the way that

I look at girls for example Okay, like I could

be like hey, you've got a really pretty face.

I'm gonna talk to you and then when they start

talking and They come across as moronic I'm gonna

turn around and walk away Like and so you you

look at this right you see you see the Joker

thing and it's kind of like whoa That's kind

of off -putting, but we don't know how he sounds

we don't know how he Carries himself how he moves

how you know? We don't know it. There's a whole

we don't have his personality. We have a photo.

We have no personality so like For me, if I take

that photo and I take what I know about the Joker,

I see no reason what I know about the Joker can't

be applied to that look. Does that make any sense

to you? Yeah. So, I mean, I guess we have to

wait until we get that, you know, I mean, Dark

Knight, Dark Knight did it the best, which was

when they had that teaser trailer, which was

just the Batman logo. And it was Alfred and the

Joker laugh. Was like the best thing ever I don't

know if we'll get that with this but I Just gotta

wait and see how he acts like how how he acts

because right now we just have a photo and I

can see I Can see a photo of a pretty girl and

be like, yeah, she's attractive and then I can

I can actually, you know hear her talk be like,

oh you're a freaking idiot so The other thing

floating around was Everybody pissing a moan

about Batman's voice on the trailer which we

kind of chalked up to it's his armor. I Really

think that's his armor amplifying something and

I didn't have any more or less It was easier

to figure out what he was saying than Bale's

Batman But I was one of the few people that never

had a problem understanding what Bale was saying.

I understood Bale it was Bane that I had a hard

time understanding every time he opened his mouth.

I was like, what the hell did he just say? That's

but for me Bales Batman with the voice didn't

really fall apart until he was like talking in

that voice Yeah, like when he was interrogating

somebody or doing like the quick like, you know

swear to me like that Those lines work in that

voice, but him having like complete lines of

sentimental dialogue in that voice That's when

that voice breaks down. Yeah, I think that's

probably why I don't like it so much. When he's

in the heat of the moment, it works, but when

he's not, it just blows. But yeah, the Batman

voice and the thing. I was watching the Dark

Knight Returns animated thing. Kind of piecing

together some of the scenes of when batman's

fighting superman and I was kind of like, okay

That kind of I didn't think about that before

but it makes sense um about that, so Anyhow speaking

of the batman versus superman they showed the

actual bat suit with full color We called it

and we called it. It was exact damn suit. We

called in the beginning of this podcast I really

want to go back and listen to that episode, but

I think it was like episode six or something

like that. I don't know Could have been anyone

like first like month and a half. I think we

talked about it several times Yeah, it was pretty

common in the early episodes and they actually

released a shot of the the new concept art of

his armored suit I haven't seen that I've Being

completely honest just for the listeners here

if I sound aloof in this episode It's because

I've had my head stuck in the sand, but we'll

talk about that later Yeah Joss Whedon was saying

Colson's basically still dead. Okay, I don't

Josh Joss is not the Lord of the Marvel Universe

or the universe and That goes to Kevin Faige

or Feige. I can't I can never like yeah, okay

That goes to Kevin Feige and what he says is

the final straw and if agents of shield is Is

tied in and daredevil is tied in then everything

is tied together Until Kevin Feige comes out

and says agents of shield is not a part of the

Marvel Cinematic Universe. Yes Colson is dead

But guess what? Avengers age of Ultron makes

zero sense. At least the opening makes zero sense

without agents of shield I'm gonna let this fly

right now. I I did download this the the movie

to try and For one I wanted to see what the first

15 minutes was gonna be like Shame and it was

basically all the trailers. Yeah, I didn't watch

the rest of it But it was basically all the trailers

was in that first 15 minutes It is true, but

the damn movie like it starts out at a point

that it's all action So it doesn't make any sense

without agents of shield this week. I mean it

It does, but it makes more sense if you watch

it. Right, there's a softer lead -in. Because

one of the things I've said about Phase 2 is

that there are no nuggets leading to Age of Ultron.

And that's still true. Everything in Age of Ultron

is pretty much, for the most part, just comes

out of Phase 1. Like it, yeah, Iron Man 3 happened

in Thor and Cap, but they make very few remarks

to those movies and it's never to the larger

events of those movies. It's to smaller things

that people that have seen them will get. But

I think they do that so that you don't have to

see them. Like if you only want to see the Avengers

movies, then you're not lost going, what are

they talking about? Um But it just doesn't This

is not Avenger. This is not Avengers like Avengers

was to face one This is definitely not that and

I had kind of prepared myself for that because

like I said, there was nothing leading into it

But the most recent episode of agents of shield

does the most? To set up age of Ultron then any

movie in phase two ever did Basically, yes now

That's not to say that you know movies can't

open this way. I mean James Bond typically opens

this way, right? Yeah Star Wars like episode

4 for the most part opens up this way kind of

I'll be a little slower because it was 1977 Yeah,

help me out here there are there are a bunch

of movies that do this I'm drawing a blank. I

felt Star Trek did this The new one. Yeah into

darkness did this you they dropped you right

in the middle of like some action scene Right,

which is fine because well, they did it even

in the first reboot You're on the ship and then

all of a sudden it's getting fired on mmm True

so yeah, I mean it's not it's not like it's not

been done before in other movies I mean it works,

but for me for my money Yeah, the shield helped

the episode of shield actually helped this help

the opening of the movie if you will it's like

kind of like reading it's kind of like reading

like a Prequel comic, you know something like

that Mm -hmm, but at the same time since we're

kind of talking about agents of shield here a

little bit it that last ten minutes kind of More

than makes up for the entire season so far Because

they had it it's so weird right they had to fill

how many episodes are they out to like 18 Like

they're almost done, right? Trying to find my

episodes. I have them on my computer Yeah, I

think so I think they go to like 22 episodes

I think and see this happened with season 1 season

1 you had to wait through like wait through like

16 to 18 episodes before it got good and then

it got good on the back of Capped too. Yeah,

so again 18 episodes had to get through 18 episodes

here So I'm wondering though if this is what

what's really gonna be the test here is how next

we get next week's episode carries on Well, I

guess they're hunting the inhumans in the next

episode. So oh, so we're just going back to okay,

whatever They're gonna be hunting down that that

pattern or that group of of them That sky visit.

Oh, yeah, okay, which I think was in the teaser

But they're also gonna kind of mention the you

know Ultron robots. Oh good. That's good But

yeah, I like how the one Hydra villain it actually

like crosses over into the film Yeah Kind of

I mean, it's you know a minute part. I'll say

this about age of Ultron. It moves really fast

really fast Yeah, I noticed that when I watched

the first 15 minutes and I was like I can't really

watch anymore It doesn't stop. I I didn't well

I mean they was just hit for hit and I was like,

okay I need to stop this but it bombs in the

entire movie is like that just does not stop

I was like, holy cow ram so much into two and

a half hours so much so What do you think of

the dual? shield agencies, I Don't get it. I

wish they would come out and say if it was like

Sword or hammer. I don't again I'm not I have

I have to see how it plays out. I don't know

what I I think basically because Gonzalez was

Trying to act like his was the real shield because

he didn't know fury was still alive Yeah, and

I loved Colson's quips in this episode though.

Oh, it was Colson. He was back. I know it When

Colson is Colson It's those episodes are great.

Like there's a couple episodes in season one

where Coulson is being himself because he's got

the the vintage The vintage car the the vintage

shield equipment from trips grandfather Yeah,

like and he's geeking out about it. Like that

is the Coulson that I like and going through

and doing my Marvel rewatch like Coulson is such

a good window for people It's like a dry smartass

too, but it works. Yeah, and I still hate Joss

Whedon for killing him. I do too. He was one

of the best, most interesting characters that

wasn't one of the Avengers. I feel like if I

talk anymore about S .H .I .E .L .D. or Age of

Ultron, I might end up spoiling stuff, and I've

been trying to keep very tight lipped on both

my opinion. Age or Age of Ultron, which I'll

just say up front. I hate the name I hate the

title Age of Ultron and I can Say that now especially

after seeing the movie that name makes zero sense

Okay, I look forward to seeing that tomorrow

So but I I but I'm not trying I'm not saying

if I like the movie I'm not saying if I hated

the movie. I just don't like the title I just

don't I will say definitively I don't like the

title, but if I don't know if you recall I've

been every like once a week or so I've been saying

Something about not liking the age of Ultron

title Yeah And that was me having not seen the

movie and now I've seen it and I hate the title

It seems like they like slapping age of on everything.

Well, there's a I mean age of Ultron in the comic

Makes sense Age of Ultron in this movie does

not So it'll be but yeah, I feel like I've just

been trying to keep my mouth shut about what

happens in the movie and in my personal opinions

of the movie because I don't want to Taint anyone's

view of the movie. I don't want them going in

looking for something that I might say or or

anything like that I I've actually kind of decided

to take a more like non -instictory stance on

most things, like kind of not try to, I was trying

to think of a word for this earlier, like evangelize

things or hype things up for people. Like I'm

trying to keep like my opinion, like my opinion,

I mean, and yes, certainly everyone else is entitled

to theirs, but. If I've seen something before

before somebody else, I don't really feel like

sharing my opinion until said person has to because

I don't want to influence anybody. So the only

thing I'll say further on this, like not actually

saying anything about agents of shield or not

age of Ultron, I'll say. Well, that should have

been called like Ultron Unbound or something.

But yeah, no, it Ultron in the title makes sense.

But. Yeah, I don't want to I don't want to say

anymore on the time agents of shield anyhow I

liked the Colson bit where he's rubbing in Gonzales's

face like Here you can play with the the cube

Just don't be surprised when fury wants it back.

Oh, you didn't know if you're you still alive

And then he takes the call from Hill and then

he shows it and he says I got to take this and

then shows it Yep, and then his quip about oh,

and he just let you do that. Well, I didn't want

to put it up for a vote Right. No, it was it

was a good episode. I'm glad I classic Colson,

which was great. Yeah, I'm glad I watched it

before seeing Age of Ultron again. So. Moving

on before we get gushing on anything. Oh, can

we transition right into spoiled movies? Yes.

This is I just want to give an example here real

quick, because there was a do I? Know you don't

really mind spoilers too much. I It doesn't bother

me unless it's like something like profound that

Basically like what we're talking about off -air

that kind of thing bothers me. Okay, so then

I said then I regret saying Well, no, I would

have found it anyhow, right? So no like there

was stuff that happens like when I'm watching

a TV show like Arrow or flash or something and

then I see Blanchard post something about it

Okay, and then and it gives it away and I'm like

you son of a bitch right but There was a reason

I wanted to talk about this was because we're

getting into these I Mean, I don't say we're

getting into them. We're almost a decade into

the Marvel Cinematic Universe. We've had 11 movies

So far that are all intertwined connected in

some way shape or form And it's getting Harder

and harder for like the next movie down the line

to not be spoiled in some way How many I don't

know if I want to share this because if people

haven't found people haven't found it They don't

know they might not know about it. So I'm not

gonna I'm assuming a spoiler alert. I'm gonna

say well There is an article on the internet

conducted with Chris Evans they're talking about

the future of the Marvel Cinematic Universe,

and it spoiled... I had not seen Age of Ultron

yet, so it spoiled Age of Ultron to a certain

degree, but it also spoiled in a much larger

capacity Civil War for me. Which is just sad

because it's not even till next year and that

and and that's all i'm really gonna say about

that But I have I have another example of this

and I believe I brought this up before and i'm

sorry if I sound like a broken record But the

same thing happened with avengers Um with the

end of avengers where tony goes through the wormhole

and he falls back and he's unconscious And there's

that moment where the audience might think he's

dead That scene didn't land for me at all Because

earlier in the week Marvel had already announced

a May 3rd release date for Iron Man 3 Which meant

Tony's not gonna die You think they'd keep a

little bit more tight -lipped on it at least

until the movie comes out like the yeah I mean,

but like let it go through the first week when

you know that everyone on earth has seen your

movie Then you know sure then announce Iron Man

3 or something, but no they they announced iron

man 3 before avengers had come out and anyone

any geek like us or our listeners that reads

news sites is going to see iron man 3 in the

headline and know that nothing can happen to

iron man and avengers i mean that's how you know

iron man is at least safe in avengers and if

you want to know who's safe in age of ultron

read the cast list for civil war um So I'm just

curious like is this I mean do you guys Steve

and into the listeners for conversations sake

do you guys foresee this being like a Problem

down the road does it hurt your excitement to

see future movies if you already have like an

idea of who? may or may not live and like knowing

that any kind of peril you might see has already

been a Character might end up in it may have

may or may not have already been spoiled for

you Does it I'm kind of under the the I Like

well at the same time I like spoilers to some

degree of some kinds but I don't like them to

that degree because it kind of I'd like not knowing

what's gonna happen to the key heroes even though

because like it we're in a day and age where

you can be watching anything and the lead character

Character could just die You know, I mean there's

no Nobody's safe in films anymore. Well, we're

in TV I I think okay I I will say that about

I will agree with you with TV about that But

I will not agree with you on film about that

because we did they took they take cop outs like

into darkness Well, we because we had a big conversation

about that because into into darkness brought

up a big conversation with us because there was

the whole Being afraid to kill the leader. Yes,

and we brought I think Iron Man was brought up

again With that, we brought up Avengers and they're,

you know, not willing to go there because they

can't because he's a cash cow. The same reason

they didn't kill Chris Pine and, you know, in

into darkness and just, you know, make the third

movie, The Search for Kirk. And there were other

movies, I think. Why do I feel like we were talking

about like. GI Joe was referenced in there. I

think and Transformers 2 even like not transformers

to the movie but Transformers as well. I think

for some reason was referenced in there and not

There was a series of there was a rash of movies

where they were killing characters and bringing

them back in the same movie Which you know it

back in the day, I mean using Star Trek 2 is

the as the benchmark here, right? You they killed

Spock like for all intents and purposes Spock

was dead at the end of Star Trek 2 yep, and then

they made a they made an entire sequel about

bringing him back to life and We haven't seen

that like I could be wrong correct me if I'm

wrong here, but we haven't seen that in modern

cinema No, so it's It's kind of a bummer that

they won't do that. I feel like, oh, that was

a thing. X -Men Days of Future Past. I feel like

it would have been a much better movie or a much

better setup for X -Men Apocalypse if Xavier

had died. Because it would kind of give reason

to why everything's so screwed up. Yes, it would

actually give them a license to tell age of apocalypse

instead of just X -Men apocalypse and You could

end up with some back to the future stuff where

they go back to that moment in days of future

past and save Xavier from dying like and it would

have put a pretty little bow on everything I

That's all right, they're gonna reboot it after

Wolverine 2 anyway, that's fine Everything that's

fine. I Mean it's not it's not like a I don't

think it's a full -on reboot. They're just not

using the older actors anymore that they're gonna

know I think that they're gonna complete reboot.

Well, they said they're continuing with the younger

cast and they're still gonna use Fassbender Mmm,

they're gonna they're gonna continue with the

stuff that was set up with first class But as

far as using like the older actors and stuff,

they're they're Because like some of like McKellen

and stuff are showing up in apocalypse. Oh Really?

Yeah, there's there's still like I believe there

is still a blend of the old old guard and the

new guard I know Wolverine's and that and Wolverine

too So and so I think I feel like after that

after singer closes out that then it's just gonna

be left to the first -class Crew like it'll be

a younger group of people So, in a way, yeah,

it'll be a reboot because you'll end up with

a younger Cyclops and a younger Jean Grey. But,

it's not like, if you were gonna marathon them,

you wouldn't just start with like, it's not like

a reboot the way that like Amazing Spider -Man

was a reboot. Oh, yeah. It's more like, okay,

we've done, now we've done two complete trilogies

of X -Men movies. So let's start like another

one. But let's make it but let's set it up so

that we can recycle characters Makes sense So,

I mean at least that's how I see it that's that's

that's my personal view on the whole thing so

Well, anyways, we got off track spoiling movies

Yes You don't mind them. I've I've actively been

avoiding them especially like trailers I just

I happen to read this this little Chris Evans

interview because the headline was about the

production on a future Marvel movie being like

one of the longest productions in history or

in movie history And so I was like, well that

sounds kind of interesting and then They had

a little more a little too much info in there

And I was like, oh, I shouldn't have read that.

So. Yeah, I that kind of stuff I don't like because

it kind of I think that's part of what bothers

me about the modern superhero films. Is we're

at a point now where. Nothing is hidden. I mean,

they don't even try, they just they release every

bit of information of their entire movie slate.

Well, I don't have a problem. And then they,

I mean, then I don't have a problem with per

se, but I have a problem with the fact that they've,

they've forecasted all these and then you have

actors saying, yeah, I'm tied to that. That's

what it is. I don't really, I don't, it's not

the titles. It's not them like preannouncing

movies or anything like that, that I have a problem.

It's when the actors get out front or get an

interview and say, I'm tied to this particular

movie and this particular movie is set after

that particular movie. Thanks! It doesn't hurt

anything. I still enjoy Iron Man 3. I liked Avengers.

I'm just saying that one particular scene didn't

land for me. Elements of peril with those characters

when I know they're in... a future movie don't

land as much as not knowing. Well, yeah, because

you're confused. You don't know what the hell

is going on. And that's that's part of the fun

of watching the movie. And they they take that

away from you. But luckily, they fill the they

fill the rest of the movie with so much awesomeness

that you just kind of don't care. So. Yeah. I

can see that Should we move on to Spidey? Yeah,

I mean that's the next logical leap here Since

we're talking about films. Just a nice big juicy

rumor that I'm okay with Do you want to butcher

his name or do you want me to? Asa Butterfield?

You think it's Asa? Yeah. Okay Asa Butterfield

is the top at the top of the list to be the new

spider -man I'm okay with this He has that awkward

look Like he could be a spider -man. I'm more

okay with this casting announcement than I am

with the rumored title What I didn't see that.

Oh, yeah spider -man semicolon the next Avenger

Like that's just and supposedly that's a rumor

and it's a working title But it's like way on

the nose Like that's late to there I'm not I

mean if that ends up being the title then fine.

I'll see it. I just won't acknowledge it by The

next official title does anyone really call Captain

America the first Avenger or do they just say

have you seen Captain America? Yeah so i mean

regardless of whatever they decide to subtitle

it that's fine but they should have just called

it the spectacular spider -man and just left

it that or ultimate spider -man or that so i

would have been fine with that i would have been

fine with anything that isn't the next avenger

or with a semicolon because the next avenger

was technically iron man hello jeez yep basically

I'm just giving them a hard time. That way all

the - and now the listeners will give me a hard

time too. They'll be like, you bastard, you butchered

that, thanks. Speaking of reboots or restarts

or whatever, and I'm not going to do this briefly

anyway, Dragon Ball Z, thanks to the previous

film and the new one that's coming out of Dragon

Ball Z Resurrection of F, which is Frieza. And

they're giving him a new form and it's the original

creator back doing all these new movies and they

look spectacular too And they gave like Goku

and Vegeta new Super Saiyan God forms that are

Super Saiyan on top of it So it's like Super

Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku Which is integrally

too much to say They're coming out with a new

series after 18 years of nothing calling it Dragon

Ball Super, or something to that effect. But

it's basically retconning and destroying the

Dragon Ball GT series like it never happened.

Because it takes place after Dragon Ball Z, like

years after the Majin Buu saga. But it's basically,

because Akira Toriyama, the guy that did Dragon

Ball Z and Dragon Ball, doesn't acknowledge GT

really because he didn't do that. It was kind

of there as a consultant, but they didn't that

was kind of like somebody else's project Okay

So like nobody nobody really likes Dragon Ball

GT I liked only the aspect of the Super Saiyan

4 but that was it this rest the show I didn't

much care for But uh, I'm kind of hopeful for

it plus they The more new stuff they come out

with, the more they add to the video games, so

that gives me something new to play that I'm

not familiar with. Because if you've played any

Dragon Ball game over the last 15 years, it's

the same damn game over and over pretty much.

No. Because you're playing the same stories that

have happened on the TV shows. So if you've watched

the TV show, you're playing the same game over

and over. Until Xenoverse, which they actually

changed things up, which was kind of neat. I

haven't played it yet. but they've added for

DLC, which this I could see more legitimately

than the other crap that they do DLC for, but

they added the new forms of like Frieza and the

Super Saiyan God stuff for Goku and Vegeta that

they didn't have before this movie comes out

in July. So that I could see more legitimately

than You know the typical DLC because this kind

of happened after the fact So But yeah, that's

that's all I was gonna say in Dragon Ball All

right So I've been wanting to talk about this

For a little bit And I'm not taking sides here

on anything, but I've wanted to talk about the

smartwatches Mostly I want to talk about now

because like I said last week. I ordered an Apple

watch My wife received hers. I'm still in limbo

waiting for mine, which is why my head has been

stuck in the sand all week. I haven't really

been paying attention to anything. I've been

watching UPS flights come from China to Alaska

to Louisville, Kentucky, and reading forums of

people that are also waiting while we all try

to figure out the delivery process and how things

work out between and the timing between when

your credit card gets charged and when your watch

actually ships. It's been fun. It's been fun

seeing what these guys have to say and trying

to figure out the method to the madness that

is moving such a large volume of product. But

that's not really what I want to talk about.

I want to talk about the whole idea of the smartwatch.

Not like Android Wear or the Apple Watch or necessarily

like the Pebble, but just like the whole idea

of it, because I myself, I love gadgets. I know

Steve loves gadgets. I feel like the smartwatch

is like the one of the first steps towards like

a Star Trek communicator. Yeah, if you will.

Well, they had one like that in Star Trek, the

motion picture. Yeah. And you know, there's a

whole like Dick Tracy, like the whole like making

a phone call from your wrist. Like. I mean, that's

like childhood stuff. That's like the stuff that

you send away, like five box tops to get like

something that something fake that does that.

Right. Yeah. So I'm curious, like I know how

I feel about them. And I can share that. I shared

a little bit in the forum or on the last episode

post where Justin Washington, I really wasn't

going to talk about this until Mr. Washington

commented and he politely said, not trying to

troll, but what is the point of the iWatch? I

don't get it at all. Does our culture really

need another screen to stare at? We look dumb

enough staring at our phones. Now we are going

to look at them even more ridiculous, staring

at our wrists. So with that, I wanted to see

just what you think of the whole idea in general,

Steve, of the smartwatch movement, if you will.

I'm kind of torn. Only because I Wouldn't mind

it per se because it would one stop me from pulling

my phone out every 10 seconds To see why it's

beeping or or vibrating or whatever. Yep Because

I could just look at my wrists that I would already

have a watch on anyhow And see if it's important

and then like you mentioned before it kind of

It flashes away and goes back to a phone or back

to a watch. Yep So, I mean I can see if it's

relevant if it's something that I absolutely

need to get a hold of right that second Then

I could determine whether I need to pick my phone

up and if it's not I could just ignore it Mm

-hmm. So I mean in that essence, I think it would

be really cool So that I'm not grabbing my phone

every five seconds or having to like take it

out of my pocket or whatever I can just Leave

it alone right even though I'll still be looking

at my wrist, but I could technically be looking

at the time, too Now see that's that is something

interesting that you know the whole like, you

know checking checking your wrist to see if it's

something important that you need to get at because

there's a There's a cultural stigma here and

I'm not the one that pointed this out I got this

from an art from an article that I read one of

the many articles that came out surrounding the

Apple watch and It was really interesting because

it's More or less culturally acceptable now For

you to feel for your phone to vibrate in your

pocket and for you to reach into said pocket

pull your phone out check it real quick to see

if it's something that you need to deal with

and Put the phone away, right? It's it's Like

90 % socially acceptable to do that, right? But

if you're in a social interaction with people

and you keep checking your watch I'm not talking

about a smartwatch But if you're in a social

setting with people and you keep checking your

watch it looks like you're bored exactly So they

would it would appear rude instead of just Checking

what to see what it was beating for exactly the

stigma around checking your watch is Boredom

or you would rather be someplace else than where

you are versus pulling out your phone So that's

something that's just a little something that

smartwatches have to overcome and I think if

and when they become more prevalent because I

don't even want to say if when they become more

prevalent then Yeah, it'll be people will know

that you're not necessarily checking the time

you're checking that you know, do you need to

pull your phone out? Personally along with the

other reasons that I I referenced in my Post

which for anyone that hasn't read it I've used

a smartwatch. I bought a pebble about a year

ago almost almost exactly a year ago And I had

it for about a week for anyone that doesn't know

pebble was one of the first major kickstarters

and They kind of pioneered the idea of the smartwatch

it was a little plastic thing with an e -ink

screen on it and It had basic interaction with

your smartphone. It was both iOS and Android

But since it wasn't made by either Google or

Apple it had very limited functionality with

the phones like it would just pretty much just

give you your notifications and because it was

an e -ink screen it wasn't all that pretty to

look at um and i i returned it under the justification

of i really like where this is going i like what

it does but i want it to do more with my phone

and i want it to look nicer like i was wearing

a piece i'm an adult and i'm wearing a piece

of plastic on my wrist So I I returned it under

the thing like, you know Apple will eventually

enter this market and I will purchase whatever

they put out there That said it's it's eventually

happened I like the whole idea of getting the

notifications on your wrist and One of the things

I intend to do with it is I've set up a little

counter in in my kitchen now I have a little

counter that just kind of is off by itself and

I walk by it every time I come in the house and

When I come home from work, I take my wallet

out. I put it on that counter I put my keys on

that counter and I have a like cell phone charger

built into the wall on that counter, okay, and

so My plan is when I come home from work to put

my cell phone on that counter my wallet and my

keys and I will have to go back to my cell phone

Like again, like I can interact with you know,

I can Be more present around my wife and what

I'm doing not constantly, you know, I'm sitting

there watching TV with her I'm not reaching over

grabbing my phone trying to check stuff, you

know, some of that stuff can be handled really

easily from The watch now right and I can make

and receive phone calls from the watch And I

can respond either verbally or through dictation

to two text messages that I get. The interesting

thing about the Apple Watch is that they didn't

even attempt to put a keyboard on it. So that

whole texting while driving with the iWatch is

not possible. There is no keyboard. And that's

my goal, because when you're out and about, the

phone talks to the watch with Bluetooth. But

when you're at home, it talks to the phone and

the watch talk to each other over your Wi -Fi

network So technically you can leave your phone

anywhere in the house and take a phone call As

long as you're within Wi -Fi range So but that's

why that's my whole plan I think I and like I

said, my wife's had hers for about a week and

she really likes it I'm kind of surprised. I

like I'm a real big fan of the whole quantified

self movement Which is basically like the ability

to track everything that you do. Like at all

times, like a lot of it has to do with like fitness

tracking and how active you are, like how many

steps you do, like how, how physically, like

how much cardio do you get in a day? How many

stairs do you climb? Like the idea of tracking

how physically active you are throughout the

day or not active as the case may be with, you

know, sometimes like that to me is like really

interesting. And I've been like a big fan of

that since. My sister really got me into it in

like 2011 with like the Fitbits. Okay. And I've

bought like a new Fitbit like every year. And

one of the last Fitbits I bought had call notifications

on it where it was like a very limited smartwatch.

It was like a pedometer. You put it on your wrist

and it could give you caller ID information.

You couldn't answer your phone or anything like

that, but you could see who was calling before

you took your phone out of your pocket. And that

was really cool. But again, being able to do

more with that information is exciting to me.

And at least the Apple Watch and even the Android

Wear stuff, that's about the size of a Star Trek

communicator, like the badge. I can live with

that though. I mean, I wouldn't mind having it

on my watch just for the sake of... Not having

to pull the phone out all the time, but I do

agree in a social situation Yeah, I don't think

I'd want to use my watch as my phone. I think

that notification center See, I think that just

needs to I think that'll come with time. I mean

early on it was considered rude to look at your

phone You know all the time But I think I know

Again, not trying to evangelize like smartwatches

or anything. They're not for everybody I mean

I do recommend playing with one before you like

completely pass judgment on the whole idea because

sometimes Some the whole idea with Apple sometimes

I mean I'm gonna say as in a cuz Steve Jobs said

this people don't know what they want until you've

shown them what they want He's right So rich

so it's I mean you can I mean I You can sit back

all day long and say you don't want something

or something's not for you, but You know at one

point or another I'm willing to bet at one point

or another Everybody that has a smartphone has

said they didn't need or want a smartphone Definitely

agree with you and now I get into conversations

with my wife about the internet being like a

utility kind of like water or electricity and

she thinks it's the dumbest idea ever and I tell

her it's true and I and I tell it she goes it's

not necessary for life and I said I said Yeah,

it is but you take it for granted because we

have internet everywhere in the house and you

have the internet on your phone Everywhere you

go if you don't think the internet is a necessity

in this day and age if you don't think the internet

Access to the Internet is a necessity. Turn the

cellular connection off on your phone or turn

the data connection off on your phone and see

how long you last. She won't do it. So I know

I won't last. I mean, I have that necessity.

I mean, I was right there with everybody. I I

when I first got a cell phone in. So I wasn't

I I got my first cell phone when I was 20. Three

Going on 24. I know it was like 2004 when I guess

I was 23 and It was a little Motorola V 180 flip

phone. I still have it great little cheap, you

know zero down when you sign a two -year contract

thing, right and I I really like that thing.

But as soon as the iPhone came out like two years

later Three years later. I jumped right on it

I never look back, but I kept telling myself

I don't need all this. I just like all this stuff

My I actually ended up drowning my first iPhone

like eight months after I had it And I was without

an iPhone for like two weeks And I was going

nuts Because I had to go back to using my little

Motorola V 180 that didn't have the internet

on it It is quite painful though when you go

from one to the other and I I don't know. I find

I don't know how you feel. This kind of spun

off into a conversation about the Internet and

its usefulness as a utility. But, you know, I

don't know if I find a computer to be absolutely

useless without the Internet on it. I do anymore,

but that's because we do all this kind of stuff.

And I when I lose Internet here, I play like

an old game that I have like Command and Conquer,

Red Alert 2. And then I play around to that and

I'm like, okay, this is fun. And then I shut

off my computer and I go play my Xbox. See, like

my iPad, I have a three, I have the LTE wifi

iPad because I don't see the point in a tablet

that can't connect to the internet everywhere.

Like, but that's again, that's me. And that's,

I depend on the internet for everything. Like

I find computers to be absolutely useless. without

the internet in them without a connection to

the internet because the first thing I do when

I sit down to a computer I I mean besides my

music and like the tv shows that are like stored

locally on it like the for the most used app

is a browser so but yeah I but you know that

took a long took the long way around people just

you know I'm willing to bet everyone said I don't

need or want a smartphone and now Almost everyone

has one. I mean, I don't know what the exact

percentage is But I'm sure over 50 % of Americans

have a smartphone Yeah, I would I wouldn't doubt

that in the slightest my Wife loves her phone.

I mean and I some of these and some of that comes

from Pricing because sometimes it's like a device

can price itself out of the market But that's

where you get that's why you have Android and

you have iOS So, you know, Android's trying to

sell like Pebble has like their smartwatch is

like seventy five to one hundred dollars to start.

And then you've got Android, which comes in like

from like one fifty to two fifty. And then you've

got Apple doing what they do and charging everybody

or asking for a liver from everybody for their

stuff. Asking for a liver. So it's you know,

it just comes down to, you know. Do they make

a smartwatch that you? Want or can afford really

I mean, that's the only way you can it's always

it's it's always the barrier to entry really

that you know can more or less deters people

from Trying something right so yep When they

become ubiquitous or you can get or you get like

when you renew your contract you get like a free

Android wear with smartwatch Yeah Be amazed at

how many people like don't jump at that offer

So I don't know I kind of thought you would be

Against it. Yeah, but then again, you are a geek

guy and a gadget guy. So I guess I mean I'm not

a huge a Huge fan of some of the things Like

I don't know if I would spend the money to buy

one Yeah, but again, it would kind of depend

on how much because like I you figure you spend

for a nice watch you'd spend probably Let's say

two three hundred dollars. I can get yeah my

titanium ones are about that much so you could

for the same price by You know the smartwatch.

Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of how I looked at it,

too You know is but like I said, there's gonna

be that there will be a time where you can get

an Android watch for free when you renew a cell

phone contract for two years. Kind of like you

back in the day get like a Bluetooth piece. Or

even now, they give you like a free tablet when

you sign a two year contract. Really? Yeah. A

lot of places when you sign a contract, they'll

give you some kind of Android tablet for renewing

a cell phone plan for two years or something

like that. I think you have to be like a new

customer. I think it's like a way to attract

New people I could be wrong. I've never looked

into it because they're Android tablets that

they're excuse me because they're Android tablets

that they're offering but And before I get jumped

on in the comments, I'm a die -hard Apple fan.

If people don't understand that by now, I'm sorry

But I have no interest in an Android tablet So,

yeah I guess that's all I got. Alrighty. Yeah,

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