ToonCast
Mike’s Top 10 Animated Series and Films

About this Episode
Hi, this is Kevin Conroy, and you're listening
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evil, beyond your wildest imagination. Hello
and welcome to another episode of ToonCast here
on the GeekCast Radio Network. I'm, of course,
TF Joe and Mike. This is episode 292. We are
on our way to 300 episodes. It's only taken us
14 to 15 years to do so. I am here with Steve
Megatron, and he is going to be taking me through
my personal top 10 tunes list, which can either
be animated series or animated films. These are
favorites. This list changes all the time, so
it could change tomorrow, it could change next
week. This is not a definitive quote -unquote
of all time list. These are just the top ten
that I picked out to discuss for my own Top Ten
Tunes episode, so I am going to hand it over
to Mr. Megatron, and we are going to start with...
the next the first number so take it away sir
so mike we're going to discover what your top
10 tunes are so let's start off with your number
10 previously on x -men number 10 i i i put this
list together on a whim folks i put this together
like five minutes before we recorded this And
I didn't want to place this at number 10, but
it's the only place it could go for now. I don't
believe what I'm hearing. But I do absolutely
love the show. I think it's great. It's amazing.
It basically got me. It was one of the two, three
shows in the 90s that got me into comic book
reading, and that is X -Men, the animated series.
Oh, interesting choice. Yes, normally it would
be higher. So all you people screaming at your
iDevices or your Androids or whatever. I go.
I want to go. Out of the way, gumbo. I would
have normally put this higher, but there are
things that are coming up in this top 10 that
are just slightly a little bit more, just a little
bit more. And the reason why I love X -Men 92
is because, like I said, it introduced me to
comics through the cartoon. You had great storylines.
Basically, this was the comics coming to life
as an animated show. And at least through the
first four seasons, the animation, for the most
part, was amazing. You have wonderful voice actors,
as in the late, great Norm Spencer, who voiced
Cyclops. You have, I forget who did Jean Grey
off the top of my head. You have Cal Dodd as
Wolverine. You have Lenore Zahn as Rogue. Lenore
Zahn, man, she's amazing. I hope we can get an
interview with her. But Rogue in this series,
she screams a lot. I forgot how much. Oh no,
she, yeah, a lot. Like it's at least three screams
per episode, depending or more, depending on
what's happening to her. But, but yeah, no, I
just, like I said, this introduced me to two
comics and to the stories of the X -Men and introduced
me to the characters as this was happening. I
found the, I believe it was NES, it was a Nintendo
Entertainment System, Spider -Man and the X -Men
video game. It might have been on other systems,
I forget off the top of my head. I found that,
and I found the X -Men... You're supposed to
know everything, Beast. What makes us like we
are, anyway? Gamma rays, pollution, ozone depletion,
television, progress, lousy luck. The X -Men
trading cards. and I always loved and I always
wanted to, I need to find them again, but I always
had the blue team card and the gold team card
as my two favorite, favorite cards from, from
that, that X -Men animated series card set. The
show is just great. It, it tells stories that
are not necessarily for kids, but it gets, it's
like in the eighties, which I will talk about
a little bit later. you obviously had something
happen throughout a He -Man story or a G .I.
Joe story or a Mask story or whatever. And then
at the end, they would have the PSAs and things
like that. With this show, it was like learning
on the fly kind of thing. And it's just like
Kevin Conroy, which I will talk about way later,
just like Kevin Conroy is the ultimate voice
of Batman. Cal Dodd as Wolverine, like... There's
so many great – and I love Steve Blue as Wolverine.
Don't get me wrong. I absolutely do. But Cal
Dodd as the original 92 Wolverine. He has so
many great lines. You know, calling everybody
Bub. Bub. Yeah. What are you talking about, Bub?
Yeah. The one line I remember is I believe it's
in the first two -parter, Night of the Sentinels,
and he's like, I go where I want to go. And it's
just so cool and so great. So yeah, X -Men 92.
Normally it would be higher, but there are other
things to discuss. Yes, to discuss on this list.
Okay, that's not a bad choice there. So let's
hear your number nine. Oh, yes, of course. Here
we are. You mean man will find one of those someday?
If man were meant to fly, he'd have been born
with wings. I am about to prove otherwise, Archimedes,
if you care to watch. Here she goes. Oh, no,
no, no, no. Man will fly all right. Just like
a rock. It would have worked if it weren't for
this infernal beard. First of all, if you don't
mind, I'll make the rules. Rules indeed. Why,
she only wants rules so she can break them. I'll
take care of you later, feather brain. Rule one,
no mineral or vegetable. Only animal. Rule two,
no make -believe things like pink dragons and
stuff. Now, rule three, no disappearing. Rule
four, no cheating. All right, all right. Now
pace off ten. You were really great, Merlin,
but you could have been killed. It was worth
it, lad, if you learned something from it. Number
nine was hard. It was difficult because I wanted
to find a mix of animated films and shows. So
number nine is going to be an animated film,
but I will say I did cheat. on this list because
I did put for two of the entries the show and
the subsequent film that went along with the
show. Because, you know, I'm a clown apparently.
So number nine is the Disney classic The Sword
in the Stone. I love this movie. This was the
movie. This and the John Steinbeck King Arthur
and His Noble Knights were the two things in
my youth, my youth and my teenage years, that
introduced me to the Arthurian legend. And Sword
in the Stone is just pure fun. And I forgot how
long those openings and closings were for these
films, because the openings and closings for
most classic Disney films is just somebody singing
a song. Oh, yeah, pretty much, and some of the
newer ones even. Yeah, yeah. But Sword in the
Stone, I mean, you know, you got Merlin, you
got Archimedes, you got Arthur, Wart, as Hector
calls him, and he's basically this kid that essentially
gets bullied by his step -bigger, older step
-brother. He's a squire, so squires are basically
like pledges in Van Wilder or something. Ooh,
that's right. We've got to do the 20th anniversary
of that over at the studio. Anyway, bad thought,
bad thought. And he meets Merlin, and Merlin
shows him all these things and does all this
magic stuff. It's a very... It's not innocent,
but it also is a very innocent telling of the
story. It's not bloodshed, guts, and gore. You
always hear about how the original story of Snow
White is much darker than the Disney movie kind
of thing. This is kind of the same thing. They're
showing you the legend, but they're showing it
to you in a way that... is fun. Like, Merlin
starts using magic on the dishes and the broom
and the mop to clean up. Like, yes, please, can
I have some Merlin magic so I can have, you know,
press the digitolium. That's all I can remember.
I was going to say Bibbidi -Bobbidi -Boo, but
that's a different movie. Oh, yeah, totally different
movie. Yeah, but he does all this magic stuff
and he says all these things and does all these
rhymes and it's just fun. It's one of my favorite
original Disney movies, actually. Absolutely.
So what's your number eight? Number eight. Oh,
I should say there are three cheats, and this
is a cheat. It was He -Man who was... He -Man?
Always He -Man. Your failure cost me Christ,
though. So number eight. And I know everyone's
going to be screaming at me that it's not higher.
He -Man and the Masters of the Universe 83, Filmation,
and the 2002 reboot. 83, I was three years old,
didn't know much about He -Man by 84, 85. I was
into Transformers. and Voltron and all that,
and I found He -Man somewhere late 84, early
85. Basically, by the time I was five, five and
a half in 85, when I was actually able to fully
understand some things, I was watching He -Man
and the Masters of the Universe, and it was awesome,
and it was great, and I had all the toys. And
literally, I had almost every... I don't know
how I had almost everything, but I had Castle
Grayskull, I had He -Man Skeletor, I had Snake
Mountain. The only thing I never got was the
Palace of Eternia, which is fine. It's not that
great. Well, I never had any of the bases for
He -Man. I had all the figures, though. Right,
yeah. I mean, I remember taking the toys to school,
but the cartoon itself? Now... Optimus Solo and
I have spent the last decade or so reviewing
all of the Masters of the Universe cartoons.
We still need to review some of the Netflix stuff.
We've done Revelations so far, but we still need
to do the Netflix She -Ra and the CGI series
and all that. But we've reviewed all 130 episodes
of the original show. And looking back on it,
there are great episodes, but there are also
bad episodes. But that's just the way the 80s
were. But as a kid in the 80s, man, I was glued
to my TV any time. My favorite scene as a kid
was the transformation scenes. Every time. Well,
it's fun when he grabs the sword. I have the
power. Yep. Absolutely. Absolutely. And even
as a kid and as an adult, there is an episode
in the filmmation series. that is called The
Problem with Power. And for some reason, which
I don't quite remember off the top of my head,
he has to let the power return. So you see this
reverse transformation where the power goes back
to Greyskull, and just like when Optimus Prime
died, I cried. Because that was just... He eventually
gets it back, obviously, and... blah, blah, blah.
It's kind of like a Duke Coleman situation, but
you know, it is what it is. It's like, Oh my
God, you are returning your power. Why are you
like, what? And like I said, we've covered it
over on powers of gray skull series, a tales
of Eternia. I don't remember all of the plot
points of the problem with power. I just remember
there's a scene in the middle of the show or
whatever, where he's like, let the power return.
And it all drains out of him. And he just turns
back into. Pink shirt and purple pants wearing
Prince Adam. Now the 2002 series, why I love
that, and this is going to be just a little bit
quicker on this so we can move on, but I never
caught, I caught it once or twice when it was
airing, but I never, I never, I was 2002, I was
22 years old. I wasn't out of cartoons. I wasn't
out of like the geeky stuff, but I was. Trying
to live life and trying to go to college and
trying to do this. It wasn't on my radar. But
I caught a couple episodes here and there and
I liked what I saw. I love the beginning three
-parter. I love that they pulled out that origin
story stuff. And the fact that Keldor is Randor's
brother. That's actually a really nice twist
that they kind of kept after that. Yep. Because
it kind of gives more reason of why he so desperately
hates. He -Man. Yes. Yeah. The fact that he's
his uncle, you know. I wish that series got to
go on to do its third season because I believe
in the third. They only got 39 episodes and then
Kashi Network or whomever canceled them. So.
Yeah. So really, really quick. I wish they had
gotten that third season because they were going
to bring in the Horde and it was going to be
awesome. But yeah. They're supposed to do that
in the new Netflix series. Yeah, they're supposed
to, but I don't trust Kevin Smith. Well, they
hinted at it in the last one, and I think even
in the CGI series. Well, the CGI series, I don't
want to turn this into a He -Man show, but I
love that because to me that is the modern day
version for kids of our ages that we were back
then. Initially? Initially, I didn't like it,
but the more I watched it, the more it grew on
me. Yeah, absolutely. And what is your number
seven? Power of web shooters! Get real sticky!
So this would be higher, but we have other things
that aren't necessarily... I don't... The cartoons
I love, I don't necessarily have certain... I
mean, each one of them is important, but... they're
all, it's kind of like all cartoons matter kind
of thing. But this one is again, another one
that got me into comics in the nineties. And
that is the John Semper, Jr. Spider -Man, the
animated series from 1994. I was 14 years old,
and between Mary Jane and Black Cat and Jennifer
Hale as the voice, even though we didn't know
it back then at the time, Jennifer Hale is the
voice of Black Cat. I wanted her to be my future
wife. All right, I'm pretty sure all the redheads
in my animated series as a kid are why I... Yep,
married a redhead. Yep. Yep. But Spider -Man
94, great stories, like, again, just like X -Men
92, like, essentially ripped off the comic book
page and come to life in animation. And as of
this recording, some website or some store or
something actually printed out, they're sold
out as far as I know, because I saw John Semper
Jr. post about this. They actually made the Peter
Parker polo shirt, the green and blue and white
shirt that he wears. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. And
it's got like a little Spider -Man head emblem
on like the left breast pocket. But I think they're
sold out. But this show, man, say what you will
about the animation of this show in all of its
seasons. Say what you will about and even I complain
about some of the transitions like they tried
to do 2D meets 3D because there were a couple
of shots where Spidey was web swinging through
the city and it would be like this weird 3D thing.
But I love this show. I love these stories. I
love the voice actors, all of them, every single
one of them. And Stan Lee cameos. Yep, at the
very... Stan and Joan, both of them cameo, because
Joan is the voice of Madam Web. And this show,
man. So much crossover, though. Spider -Man 94
has... I forget which... I know he's in it, but
I forget which character he is. Has Ephraim Zimbliss
Jr. as a voice. And it has... the Joker, Mark
Hamill, as the Hobgoblin. Yep. At 14 years old,
it was blowing my mind. I'm like, wait a minute,
aren't you supposed to have clown makeup on?
You know? Yeah, this show, man, and the stories
that they gave Peter, and the way that they did
stories, the way that John wrote the stories
or had people write the stories, and it was just
so, like the Six Forgotten Warriors? That was
an awesome multi -part episode about World War
II and old heroes meeting new heroes and things
like that. And even when they did that, essentially,
because it wasn't done in either of the other
older, the 81 Spider -Man series or the 67 animated
series, this series started the Spider -Verse.
Because at the very end, you have the spider
wars, you have the clone saga thing as the last
two episodes. And I love how throughout all of
it, Joan Lee is the voice of Madam Web. Madam
Web, the character, she was teaching him lessons
throughout all five seasons of the show that
led up to the finale and all of that. Basically
lifted on a cliffhanger, you know. Who is that
exotic lady? Oh, her? She's my ride. It's been
great meeting you. Take care of yourself. You
too, Spider -Man. Farewell and good luck. Wow,
I wonder how I'm supposed to get down from here.
I suppose I could wait for the Fantastic Four
to drop by and give me a lift. That Stan Lee,
he's quite a guy. I think he's truly special.
Well, Madam Web, where to now? Face front, true
believer. We are going to find the real Mary
Jane Watson. And then they ended the series,
didn't they? Yep, that was it. That sucks. Yep,
that absolutely does. Before we move on, I do
have to say that I have currently, the only one
I'm missing is, I think, Doc Ock. But I have
The Glow in the Dark. Hobgoblin Funko Pop. I
have the Madam Web. I have the Spider -Man. And
I have the Black Cat. And I'm trying to remember,
did they do a Green Goblin yet? I don't remember,
but I know they did Doc Ock, and I still need
to get him. But yeah, I love Spider -Man the
Animated Series. I don't care. It's just like
Transformers Generation 1. Most of the time I
overlook the flaws and I don't care because I
just love the voices and the animation. Same
thing with Spider -Man. Oh, and before we move
on, I have to say this because this is so cool.
The Spider -Man animated series theme is done
by Joe Perry, guitarist from Aerosmith. Now,
interesting fun fact here, folks. Most of the
guys from Aerosmith are from Massachusetts. I
am originally from Massachusetts. Joe Perry took
his dry cleaning to my mom's boyfriend's dry
cleaners. That's cool. Yeah, it was Plaza Cleaners
in Marshfield, Massachusetts. And oh, God, I
wish I could have met the guy because at six,
seven, eight years old in the 80s, that would
have been so awesome. So what is your number
six? Another cheat, just because technically
it's, actually I've got two cheats in a row for
six and five, because technically they are one
whole series, even though some people say, oh
no, they're really not. But it's, it probably
could have been higher, but I have things that
are, you're going to call blasphemy on this,
but it is Beast Wars and Beast Machines. Aw,
do you need a hug? So let's cut through the signal
noise, shall we? Comedy meets tragedy. I know,
I know. I know. But I have other things that,
like, I could have technically switched six and
five. This could have been at number five. But
I still love both of these series. Beast Wars,
you had so many various different things going
on. You had all the character growth. Cheetor.
Outside of Hot Rod slash Rodimus Prime, Cheetor
is my number one favorite hero Autobot. That
isn't, you know, an Autobot leader kind of thing,
but basically he is that. He's essentially the
Nightwing, Robin Nightwing of the show. I love
his evolution from Beast Wars to Beast Machines.
I love the early CGI in Beast Wars. I think it's
great. The best part of Beast Wars is when they
got the Transmetal 2 stuff. That's awesome. That's
fun. I mean, dinosaur Megatron on roller skates.
You can't get more cool than that. Well, that's
Transmetal, but yeah. That's what I'm saying.
Transmetal. Yeah. What is that thing? Eventually
you have Transmetal. Well, Transmetal with Rat
Trap and Cheetor. Cheetor gets jets. How do you
work these things? Ian James Corlett. Oh, my
God. Love that guy. Gary Chalk, David Kaye. We've
talked to all three of them. Venus Terzo. I would
love for us to be able to talk to her. I have
to find a way to get to talk to her because not
only is she Black Arachnia from Beast Wars, she's
the voice of Princess Lana from Captain N, the
Game Master. Oh, nice. Between Black Cat in Spider
-Man and Princess Lana in Captain... Huge crushes.
Huge crushes in the 90s on those characters.
What I love about Beast Machines is it's such
a story -driven, there is no real filler to it.
There are some filler moments in it, but there's
no specific, you don't have all this serious
connected episodes and then do a low road or
something like that. There's all this connection,
and Cheetor's evolution, man, oh my god. Hey,
look at me. I'm a cheetah. No, no, I'm Cheetor.
Interesting. Interesting? Optimus, the word is
spot on smooth. It's a crime. Hey, I wonder what
these gizmos are for. I think it's time to shred
some bread. What do you say we give these new
bods a test drive? I am transformed. From the
time he began in Beast Wars to the time that
ends in Beast Machines with, let's take these
bods for a test drive. Oh, God. And the animation
in both of them. But Beast Machines, it just
upped the ante. And you got Megatron. It's like
seven different things in that show. He was a
head. He was a drone. Well, he was the dragon,
you know, in the bank. Then the head. Then he
became like some weird amalgamations of different
drones that he had. Plus, then he becomes the
diagnostic drone and then finally becomes optimal.
Yep. Such a missed opportunity with every optimal
toy that comes out. We need a Megatron face.
Yes, yes, they do. I would strictly change my
optimal just to be Megatron. Yep. Just because.
Absolutely. Absolutely. So what's your number
five? I once thought I could protect the world
by myself, but I was wrong. Working together,
we saved the planet. And I believe that if we
stayed together as a team, we would be a force
that could truly work for the ideals of peace
and justice. What? Like a bunch of super friends?
More like a Justice League. Do you have any idea
how corny that sounds? But maybe the big guy's
got a point. With all of us behind it, it just
might work. Count me in. Me too. And me. My mother
may not approve, but I find man's world to be
intriguing. I'll gladly join. What about you,
Batman? I'm not really a people person. But when
you need help, and you will, call me. Number
five is Justice League and Justice League Unlimited.
Yes, they are all one show, folks. Even though
they split up the series, they are technically
one whole piece of the DC animated universe.
The next, between this entry, number four and
number three, it's going to be really tough because
we have to talk about Kevin Conroy. And him being
the voice of Batman. And in Justice League and
Justice League Unlimited, I feel like he really
got to break out with that voice. As far as them
just letting... Like, he still did the dark and
brooding thing, but he opened... Like, again,
this is a whole continuity. This is a whole thing,
starting with BTS, going through all the other
shows and whatever else. So by the time we get
to JL, JLU, you know, he has this mix of darkness
and humor, and it's just so, like, the beginning
in the Secret Origin three -parter, he's flying
in the Batwing, which doesn't really, it's one
of the more modern designs. I don't like it that
much, but he's flying in the Batwing, and Superman
flies by him and goes the other way. He turns
around and whips his head. Where is he going?
And the sort of hinted -at relationship between
him and Wonder Woman, I thought that was great.
Don't you ever wish you were down there? I'm
down there all I need to be. Yes, but it's just
a job to you. I'm talking about going down there
and having some fun. Maybe with someone special.
No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into
your brooding time. One. Dating within the team
always leads to disaster. Two, you're a princess
from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich
kid with issues. Lots of issues. And three, if
my enemies knew I had someone special, they wouldn't
rest until they'd gotten to me through her. Next.
The fact that we see him sing. I've talked about
this recently on podcasts where it's like I tell
everybody if they haven't seen it or if they
don't know. In this little piggy, Cersei is like,
I want something from you that once it's gone,
it can never be gotten back. And it's so into
your soul that no one knows about this. And then
all of a sudden you hit the stage with the light
and he's basically glowing in that light. Am
I blue? Am I blue? Ain't these tears in my eyes
telling you am I blue? Oh my God. But yeah, the
rest of the characters, I love John Stewart,
Green Lantern, Phil Lamar, George Newbern, Superman,
Susan Eisenberg, Wonder Woman, Clancy Brown continues
on as Lex Luthor, obviously Corey Burton as Brainiac.
And they were just great stories. They weren't
stories that made me want to go check out the
DC Comics stuff, but they were stories that made
me feel like the comics were on the screen kind
of thing. I can totally relate. I loved those
shows just because it was continuations of all
the others. Yep, absolutely. So what is your
number four? Why'd you do it like that? God.
Number four is, and this isn't really a cheat,
I just said etc. at the end of this, but Batman
the Animated Series. And it's two adventures
and new adventures and all that. What? You should
be Sidewalk Stroganoff! I changed the menu. This
show, man, just defined 12 -year -olds in 1992.
Ms. Gordon, I hear that you've discovered our
little secret. Yes, I admit it. I am Batman.
If you were 12 years old in 1992 and you got
to watch this show and your parents were allowing
you to watch this show because actually, it's
funny, my stepmother punished me for what, like,
why is that show so violent? Why can't, you shouldn't
be watching that. Go do your homework. So I never
really, I found the show later. and things i
didn't get to go see mask of the phantasm in
theaters but i did see it in a group home on
a vhs tape which was really cool yeah i i saw
it in theater and i got the vhs very cool i i
just there's so many things and we've said this
before over on legends of the dark knight we've
said an unaltered geek we've probably said it
on geek cast radio episodes there are just so
many great things about this show so many great
episodes And just like Kevin Conroy, may he rest
in peace, just like he is the definitive voice
of Batman, Lauren Lester is the definitive voice
of Dick Grayson Robbins slash Nightwing. I loved
Lauren's voice as that character. And there were
so many cool different episodes with all of the
villains, from the Joker to the Riddler to Mr.
Freeze, hello, Heart of Ice, Emmy -winning Heart
of Ice. You know, it's just so friggin' cool.
Love BTAS Adventures and New Adventures. New
Adventures was cool because you had New Adventures
of Batman and New Adventures of Superman, and
then they basically combined to be the new Batman
-Superman Adventures. And it was fun. My favorite
episode, one of my favorite episodes from that
is Nighttime, where... Bruce gets basically taken
over by Brainiac and Tim has to figure out what's
going on and he has to go to Superman. Oh, that
was pretty funny. Yes, because Superman basically
– it's basically – I assume and I wish – oh,
God. I got to find a way to get in contact with
George Newbern because I need to ask him this
sadly now that Kevin is gone. I want to think
that in that episode, Bruce, Tim had them. Kevin
Conroy, George Newbern had them sitting next
to each other because as Superman, George Newbern
talks in his Superman voice. And then, you know,
he switches to talking like Batman, but it's
Kevin. Okay. So, and then, you know, Tim Drake,
Robin asks him, that's, that's so weird and cool.
How'd you do that? And in the Batman voice, he
says, so how'd you do Batman's voice? Precise
muscle control. Plus, I have a pretty good ear.
Don't do that again. It was just such a cool
episode. And then obviously the two other big
ones for me are Over the Edge, which is the Scarecrow
episode where Barbara supposedly is killed and
they go on this alternate dream sequence thing.
And then Old Wounds. Old Wounds is a love letter
to Nightwing. It really, really is. It's so cool.
I never put on that costume again. And you still
haven't forgiven him? Why should I? He'll never
change. Must be one of the wallets they stole.
Whose is it? I don't believe it. I think this
is yours, Connor. Oh, thanks. But you almost
gave me a heart attack. I thought you were the
Batman. No. I ran up against him once. It was
a real eye -opener. Forced me to get my life
together. Now I've got this great job. Even Mr.
Wayne knows me. Terrific guy. Never too busy
to stop and ask how my boy's doing. Mr. Wayne
is a good man. Guess Batman had a change of heart.
Who'd have thought he had one? Speak of the devil.
You coming? I guess it's about time. And what
is your number three? Again, cheating, because
I have to. Batman Beyond. And Batman Beyond Return
of the Joker, because how can you leave that
off this list? The voice kept calling me Bruce
in my mind. That's not what I call myself. What
do you call yourself? Oh, yeah, I suppose you
would. But that's my name now. Tell that to my
subconscious. You see now why some of the earlier
ones couldn't be some of the more lower ones,
because hello. Teenage Batman, okay. Spider -Man,
you're going to make references. That's fine,
whatever. But I love the idea of old man Bruce,
old man Kevin Conroy, and a young upstart Eric
Matthews slash Will Friedle as the voice of Terry
McGinnis slash Batman, Batman Beyond. Favorite
episodes from this, the Shriek episode where...
They think I'm crazy. We'll talk about it back
home. We're not going anywhere until I figure
out where the voices are coming from. But the
orderlies could come in at any second. Check
the light fixture. There might be a speaker hidden
in it. You can't be serious. Check it! See? Nothing.
Then the sound's got to be coming from the walls.
Strip them. I can't strip the... Wait a minute.
What are you doing? Ow! Big bandage for such
a small wound. It's a two -way radio. Guy named
Shreve makes them. He's the one who knocked down
the police station. He probably bribed a nurse
to put that thing in the bandage. Still think
I'm crazy? It never occurred to me. Miss me,
boy? He wasn't the only one. Looks like the radio
signal's coming from that factory by the hospital.
And from there, I've got a feeling it's going
to lead to Powers. Doesn't take a detective to
figure that one out. Yeah, the source is definitely
in here somewhere. Not somewhere. Right behind
you. You don't have to do this, Shreve. But I
do. And the name's Shriek now. I'll show you
why. Batman Beyond was such a cool, fun show.
And they did something different with this. This
is 1999, so this is before Justice League and
Justice League Unlimited. But they had techno
and synth music and those cues, man. They have
a mix between that and the classic. If you listen
to... What's the track name? Not Family Reunions.
What the hell's the damn track name? I don't
remember off the top of my head. But anyway,
they have this thing where Christopher Carter
mixes in the techno stuff with the traditional
Shirley Walker type score, and it's just so good.
The legacy continues. That's what it is. Yep.
Farewells. Farewells and legacy. I'm looking
at my Batman Beyond song lists on Spotify, so
I know what I'm talking about here. So, yeah.
Very, very cool. Very, very awesome. Absolutely
love. And Return of the Joker, man. Like, oh,
my God. That movie. We love that movie. You even
made your own Joker custom based off that movie.
I did. I did. Yeah, you did. I still have it.
I assume you would. I mean, why wouldn't you?
But, man. And the cool thing for me with that
movie has nothing to do, nothing to do whatsoever
with the DC animated universe. It's just a good
movie. No, no, it is. Absolutely. But the, like
in that, I wasn't, was I up on it in 99? I wasn't,
I don't know. A little bit later, a couple years
later, I found the Thin Man movies, the old William
Powell and Myrna Loy Thin Man movies. In Return
of the Joker, you have Dean Stockwell, who most
people will know as Sam from Quantum Leap. You
have him as old Tim Drake. And he originally,
at least the very first role that I've ever seen
him in, was in Song of the Thin Man. He played
Nick and Nora Charles' son, Nick and Nora Charles.
In the Thin Man movies, Nick is the detective,
Nora is his wife, all that stuff. And he plays
their son. And I was like, oh my god, you have
an adult Nicky Jr. from the Thin Man. You have
Dean frickin' Stockwell as old man Drake. And
it's just so cool. And that... A horrifying transformation.
And Bruce, I'm sure you've got your monkey boy
wired somehow. That's just peachy, because I
want you to see every minute of this. It's a
killer. never get tired of that drake you're
the joker that flabby oaf doesn't even realize
i'm using him as a timeshare beneath this puckish
exterior lies the mind of a genius when the when
the chip gets electrified when terry reaches
up and ha ha and you know puts the puts the buzzer
to joker's neck and You see the various facial
ticks and things, and oh, God. And, of course,
you have the famous thing with this movie between
being PG and R, because the made -for -TV version
basically has Joker slip on some water, grab
an electric switch, and electrocute himself.
Offscreen. Yep. And all of the blood that's all
over the place is changed to purple. Yep. And
in the uncut version and the cool version, you
basically have, like I said, Terry coming up
and shocking the crap out of him and doing it
that way. I love the animation. I love the music.
Batman Beyond is so cool for me. It's between
that, TAS, and JLU, and even Superman as well.
Anything to do with Kevin Conroy Batman, and
it just sucks that he's gone. Yep. Sad but true.
Yeah, it really, really sucks. Thank you, Mr.
Conroy, for everything you did in your life.
That's what made the Arkham game so bearable.
Ha ha ha! Well, I mean, you're probably right.
I've seen people play those, and I love hearing
him do those and all that. At some point, you
and I, or I don't know if it's going to be other
people, but I have. For you, I'm going to screencap
the Finding Batman, so DC Pride 2022. Kevin Conroy
wrote a story called Finding Batman, and it's
basically his life story leading up to the point
of him getting the role and all that. So yeah,
we're going to talk about that in another podcast
at some point, most likely in 2023. But yeah,
Batman Beyond show and Return of the Joker. I
said to somebody the other day that with Kevin's
passing, Like, obviously it means so much to
all of us, but it probably means even more to
the people that he got to work with, or the people
that worked with him, or the people that hired
him to do jobs, and Bruce Timm. Bruce Timm and
Kevin Conroy have one of the best moments in
the entire DCAU. And it's in Rebirth Part 1 or
Part 2, I forget which part it's in, but... Who
do you think you're talking to, old man? We're
the Jokers! Sure you are. That's a once -in -a
-lifetime moment. And Bruce Timm, as far as I
know from interviews that I've heard him on and
seen him in, he just got, oh, yeah, we needed
a voice for the lead Joker, and I kind of did
it, and it was just kind of my own voice and
whatever. But now you have a moment in time where
you had an exchange with Kevin Conroy, the goddamn
Batman, telling him that you're the Joker's...
Sure. As a fan of it, as someone who absolutely
loves it, as someone who grew up on it, it's
just so chilling now just watching that. I just
absolutely love it. And the music is amazing.
Listening to the music in this show and the film,
so great. Christopher Carter, amazing. What is
your number two? Titan AE. This is a Don Bluth
film. Released June 16th, 2000. I find that hilarious
because June 16th of 1995 was Batman Forever.
But Titan AE, I love this movie. I love the music
in this movie. I love the animation. I love the
voice acting. I love the story. Do you see anything?
It was really small, like a cocoon or something.
No, no, nothing like that. No. I do see something.
It's got my buddy. Not my buddy. I don't know
him personally. I kind of wish I did. But it's
got Matt Damon, Massachusetts, all the way, and
all that. It's got Bill Pullman. It's got Drew
Barrymore. It's got... John Leguizamo. It's got
friggin' Luigi. It's got, and I'm doing this
from memory, folks. I'm not even looking at anything
besides my top list here. Let's not do that again.
Hold it. Look there. Akima, turn around. Turn
around! Have you ever seen anything like it?
Once. Gene Garofalo as one of the characters,
and Nathan... Oh, God. Not Philly in the other
one. Nathan Lane as one of the characters, and
it's got Tom Loke as one of the alien characters.
He was pretty popular in the 90s, though. Well,
yeah, obviously. He was in Ace Ventura. He was
in Blank Check. Yeah. Love. We got two years.
We're recording this in 2022. 2024 is the 30th
anniversary of Blank Check. Plans. Anyway, Titan
AE. Basically, an alien race comes down and basically
destroys the Earth. I know that's technically
what was going to be done in Independence Day,
but this is way better. I love Independence Day,
don't get me wrong, but this is, in animation,
this is, the animation that they used in this
movie, the Don Bluth animation, oh my god. That
ice crystal scene, where they're like trying
to find the ship, they're trying to find, oh
god, they're hiding out, and oh god, so good,
so good. But yeah, I love. Like, I remember exactly
where I was when I saw the trailer on a TV in
a video store for this movie. And the stupidest
thing is, and I think it's in the end credits,
but the stupidest thing is in the year 2000,
this was, was Human Clay 99? Yeah, it was. Creed
had just released their album Human Clay in 1999
with the song Higher on it. They used hire in
the trailer. It's not in the movie at all. I
don't even think it's in the end credits, but
it's not on the soundtrack. It was basically
like, yep, we're just going to use it for the
trailer to get you hooked. Well, they got me
hooked because I loved Creed at the time. And
I still love Creed. I listen to more Nickelback
now than I do Creed, but it is what it is. That
was one of the big things in the very late 90s,
early 2000s. It was like, pick your band, either
or, Creed or Nickelback or both. And sometimes
it was both, and sometimes it was one or the
other. But Titan AE, again, amazing animation.
The story is basically, it's traditional storytelling,
but it's a cool story because you're facing this
basically unfeeling, unknowing, you know, dredge
race of basically energy beings. And Matt Damon's
character, Drew, Drew bear, Drew bear. Talk about
another crush for a character. Uh, Akima, she
got purple hair. Okay. I'm sold. And at that
time in 2000, I was listening to WAF, uh, in
Boston, Massachusetts and mistress Carrie, who
has purple hair. was the 3 to 7 p .m. DJ on the
radio. So, yeah, Titan AE, absolutely love it.
Number two has to be, at least for now, like
I said, this list will fluctuate in the future,
but this is the list I came up with for this
podcast. So, what is your number one? Can anybody
guess? No guesses? All right, well. You're like,
it's Scrappy -Doo. Oh, a sneak attack, eh? I
gotta warn you, you're dealing with Scrappy -Doo.
That's more like it. I didn't even think to put
him on here. I was just trying to think of like...
Not necessarily the best ones that I love, but
I was just trying to think of like, oh, the ones
I want to talk about and the ones that I really...
No. Hello, I am the fucking great one. Don't
you know? Haven't you heard? It's been 14 years,
damn it. And use the power of the Matrix to light
our darkest horror. Transformers Generation 1,
the show, and obviously Transformers the movie.
Autobots, transform and... Now, I know the show
has animation errors and has other errors and
dead brawn showed up in a scene in season three.
And I understand all that. But overlooking all
of that, the voice acting. Hound. Right here,
Prime. Scout the area. See if you can locate
the Decepticons. Just turn me loose, Prime. I'll
sniff them out. I'm going to. I want to boot
some Decepticon right in his turbocharger. Easy,
Cliffjumper. Just find them. We'll deal with
them later. Good luck. The characters. Most of
the stories are really, really good. Yes, there
are some wacky things. Yes, there are some nonsensical
things. But Generation 1 was awesome. 98 episodes
of amazing. And, you know, I always, you know,
lately over the last couple of years, I'm like,
eh, Optimus Prime, screw him. It's Rodimus Prime
or this, that, the other thing, whatever else.
Look, anytime Peter Cullen opens his mouth as
that character, I love it and I tear up. Recently,
well, I don't know as far as when this episode
goes out, but... Recently in my own timeline,
I saw the panel that he did at one of the TF
cons that TF con did close to the end of the
year this year. And my God, he doesn't even have
to talk in the optimist voice, just hearing his
story and hearing him answer the questions. And
then he may or may not break into the voices.
It was just so cool. I loved season three of
the show because it was so different. There are
many different off -the -wall episodes in that,
but I also love the various episodes that kind
of tie into the other things. Only Human is probably
my number one favorite episode from that season.
Because you have. As everyone knows, Ultra Magnus,
Arcee, Springer, and Rodimus all turn into humans.
Because, uh, Drath. Victor Drath wants to do
this for Cobra Commander, even though he's called
Old Snake in this. And you have basically Chris
Latta as Cobra Commander in Transformers. And
seeing those bots as humans was just so cool.
Just so awesome. And then Transformers the movie,
14 years. 16, 17 years for you. Let's just round
it down to 15 years total for the two of us.
We've talked about Transformers the movie so
many goddamn times. Do I have to say anything
else? Like, it's the Transformers, the movie,
motherfucker. Like, seriously. It's a pity you
Autobots die so easily, or I might have a sense
of satisfaction now. Optimus Prime. Optimus.
I almost wish we would have got a Beast Wars
movie. Yeah, that would have been cool. I don't
know why they couldn't do it now, though. Like,
I mean, yes, I know they're coming out with Rise
of the Beasts next year. No, I know. I know.
No, I. Here we go. I understand. But, like, look
how far CGI has come to today. Maybe you could
take those, like if you want to continue off
of Beast Machines or if you just want to forget
Beast Machines and continue off the end of Beast
Wars in that CGI style. I don't see why they
couldn't. But yeah, Transformers the movie, I
quote it at least once a day. I thought you were
made of sterner stuff. I can't deal with that
now. Or... In the case of various files and other
things, open, damn it, open. Yep. Pretty much.
Pretty much. Very, very, very quotable. So that's
my list. And like I said, that list will fluctuate.
That's not the, you know, it's not the end -all
be -all, but those were the ones that I absolutely
love and the ones I absolutely wanted to talk
about on this episode of ToonCast. Makes sense.
Not a bad list. A lot of them would have been
on mine in various places. Yeah, I mean, most
of the time we kind of sort of like the same
things, but, you know, it is what it is. And
obviously you would have things higher than I
would have. Look, I wanted to put Beast Wars
and Beast Machines higher, but with his death,
man, and it's not just because of that. I am
so much, like, I am connected to Beast Wars and
Beast Machines, and I love those shows. But it's,
like, I will go back and re -watch Beast Machines,
not a lot, but more than Beast Wars. And the
other thing is, but the thing of it is, is that
I will go back and I will watch various DCAU
stuff more than Beast Wars and Beast Machines
together. So that's why they were in the order
that they were in. No, I mean, I get it. I like
Beast Wars. I watch way more than I watch anything
else. Yeah. You watch it at the plasma office,
the dentist office, the cat scan. I would watch
it at the dentist, except they kind of need your
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