Tim Nydell on Cartoon Origins

Hi, this is Dan Gilbazan and you're listening

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evil, beyond your wildest imagination. Hello

and welcome to Tooncast. This is episode 290.

We are, well, we're probably nine episodes away

from 300 at this point, but we are continuing

on in the Tooncast origins here on the Geekcast

Radio Network. I, of course, TF2 and Mike, and

this time around, once again, he is back for

another week. It is Tim Neidell. Hello, sir.

Hey guys, it's me again. So if you hated me,

I'm sorry. But if you loved me, you're welcome.

No, it's good to be back. Sorry. Talking more

about cartoons and other things. That's right.

Absolutely. All right. Well, we all know the

first question is. Kind of a redundant question.

I don't want to say stupid, but it's redundant.

Did you grow up watching cartoons? What were

some of your earliest cartoon memories? Well,

you know, I didn't watch cartoons as a kid. I'm

kidding. Right. Of course. Yes, of course. I

watched cartoons as a kid. I mean, my earliest

memories, I think, are of watching cartoons as

a kid. So the answer is yes. which cartoons pretty

much all of them in the early 80s. So I was born

in 1980, grew up loving all the classics, He

-Man, Thundercats, and memories of pretty much

every cartoon almost out there from the 80s and

90s. There's some cartoons people mention, like,

you know, like Mask. Let's talk about Mask. I

watched it. I just don't have memories of watching

it. You know what I mean? who will neutralize

soon as they arrive the track is gonna leave

a mission and spectrum's got the superstition

Oh boy. Well, just like last week, I will say

with Powers of Grayskull series, we've covered

every piece of He -Man animation. Optimus Solo

tapped out with mask. So, Kevin, we did Masked

Mayhem, I don't know, decade or so ago or whatever

the hell long ago it was. And I had to bring

somebody else in to finish off season two, because

technically the show has two seasons, but season

one was 65 episodes and season two was 10 episodes

because there are 10 total episodes, 75 total

episodes of that show. And you're right. The

only thing I really remember like Lickety Split,

like every other eighties cartoon about mask

specifically is the theme song. And the fact

that I had all the toys. I was going to say the

toys, the toys. I remember that more than the

show. Now, I don't remember being a bad show.

I watched it after that, too. But it's just not

something that I go back to and talk about, because

to me, it was kind of a forgettable show and

already we're starting off the interview or whatever.

So it is with a negative. I'm sorry. You're not,

you're not wrong. I mean, it isn't that it's

the mask is not as great as everyone assumed

it to be. Yeah, it just like, yes, there are

certain aspects of mask that are cool. The vehicles

are cool. The things are cool. The theme song

is amazing. The stories and the writing for it's

like they threw every single script against the

wall and none of the spaghetti stuff. There was

spaghetti all over the floor because like, and

they repeated storylines multiple times. And

of course it doesn't help. that you have out

of all of the 80s kid characters, the single

worst set of Spike and Bumblebee. I'll take Spike

and Bumblebee any day over fucking Scott and

T -Bob. Oh, God. T -Bob is the one. I take Megatron

over like, look, Megatron might be the evil bad

guy. I take a bad guy over a dumbass scooter

any day. Then. It must have been an unnatural

force. Come on, T -Bob. Let's go back to the

cottage. At least one of these darn things flies.

And I'm going to find it. They're all the same.

They're just windmills. Oh, yeah? Oh, what about

that one? What about it? The sails are turning

the wrong way. Not that one. That one over there.

You're right. Let's talk about happy things.

I'm sorry. Yes. Yes. Happy things. Other, other

early cartoon memories that you may have had.

So I do remember something I did as a kid that,

you know, I think it may be a common thing with

some people maybe listening. I'm not sure, but

I also remember recording pretty much all my

favorite cartoon, the VHS. So i used to get up

in the morning or maybe even set the timer because

i think i was the only person in the house even

though i was five years old who knew how to set

the clock and the timer on the vcr so i'd set

the timer or get up like i said myself record

everything and the funny thing is i had tapes

for each show okay so i had a tape i had a separate

tape for for duck tales separate tape for x -men

the animated series separate tape for eek The

cat which i love by the way i should talk about

that show last week or last episode but i love

that cartoon as well. And most of the time i

would sit there and pause for the commercials

edit out the commercials. And now that i'm thinking

about it i really wish i had those with the commercials

actually i wish i had the cartoons period on

vhs i don't know what happened to him i think

we got older i just taped it over with you know.

Something else. They're all in a landfill somewhere

probably But yeah, I used to wake up sit on the

floor So if you go to my website saturdaymorningrewind

.com You'll see that the first image there is

of a kid sitting on the floor with a bowl No,

he doesn't have cereal in this one. Never mind

The old one had a kid with a bowl of cereal Um,

that was what I did as a kid. I got my own breakfast

I sat in front of the tv ate my lucky charms

or my cap and crunch and watch cartoons from

seven in the morning to noon when they were on

Saturday mornings and if it was in the afternoon.

So I think a lot like other 80s kids, we were

very independent as kids. I got myself up in

the morning with my alarm, took a shower, got

dressed, ate some breakfast. And I had you watched

five seconds of a cartoon. Yeah, I had at least

20 minutes of watching the show. I remember watching.

I think it was different every day. It was either

Teddy Ruxpin or Woody Woodpecker. I remember

watching before having to walk to school because

my parents were already at work at that point.

I mean, can you imagine kids nowadays if they

had to do that, they wouldn't go to school? Well,

they wouldn't. They would sit at home on their

iPads and be stupid. Yeah, but I was very independent.

I don't ever remember my brother being there

even though he won't know I don't remember him

being there in the mornings But I just really

enjoyed getting up and watching cartoons the

kid and that was the first thing I did when I

woke up even on weekdays So we talked about it

last week with your top 10 list but What cartoons

were you watching the most as a kid? Were you

more of a Saturday morning kid or were you weekday

after school? I mean, it's a great mixture of

both. Even so much to where I even get them mixed

up if it was a morning cartoon or a weekday afternoon

cartoon, honestly. Like, I mean, I know DuckTales

was afternoon, of course, because it was Disney

afternoon. But I mean, so I love DuckTales, Thundercats,

He -Man, G .I. Joe, Transformers. Even some of

the more obscure ones like I said eat the cat

and the beagle juice cartoon. I think that came

out in 89 I think Somewhere around there whenever

after the movie came out. Yeah. Yeah I mean it

was it was hard for me to run across a show that

I didn't enjoy watching. Mm -hmm Absolutely.

All right. Well, there's a gas gun to your head.

What's the number one favorite cartoon as a kid?

Gasca had a little dark green little reference

there. All right gas gun to the head. Let's go

Like I said last week, it was always kind of

a tie under cats or ducktales But I'm gonna say

I'm gonna say ducktales That's my my go -to even

now. I will watch I will watch ducktales even

now Nothing but old robes, 40 years of searching,

and I end up with Kali Baba's dirty laundry.

All right, very cool, very cool. What are some

of the other cartoons you like? Do you have a

favorite cartoon genre or type? So basically

this is like, obviously you've already mentioned

Transformers and G .I. Joe's, but like cartoon

genre or type is like. The boys action cartoon

or then there's like strawberry shortcake and

all that. I really did. I watched my little pony

as a kid. I played with the ponies when I was

a kid, too, mainly because my babysitter who

had a daughter my age had a lot of my little

ponies. And I remember watching the cartoon there

as well. First girl that I kissed, by the way,

would have been her. And I think I would have

been like five years old. So that was pretty

young. Well, that was interesting yeah, all righty

then to answer more of the question Yes, I would

watch a little bit of everything. I think I kind

of was geared more Maybe to the action ones,

you know, the of course the the boy action ones

He may have under cast you had Joe. I mean even

DuckTales is action oriented, you know because

of the event they go on Like i said last time

is very much like indiana jones treasure hunting

and uh run across bad guys or whatever So more

of the action -based ones Um, I didn't really

get into the anime Looking ones until later if

at all Like I never really been into anime. I

watched dragon ball z with my college roommate

not college roommate my After high school roommate,

we weren't in college together right? I got into

that then but Not really anime, you know what

I mean? In Voltron Voltron kind of had the anime

look which I did love Voltron a lot. So it's

hard to say that but it didn't have that 100

% anime feel. Yeah Yeah, after all this time,

I'm not getting my hopes up. How did your cartoon

watching habits change as you grew up throughout

your life? so One of the misconceptions i think

people have of me especially people who listen

to my show think i watch everything i watch cartoons

now modern cartoons but to be honest i really

stopped watching most like ninety nine percent

of the cartoons. Around ninety seven when i was

seventeen years old just cuz i grew it i thought

at the time you know maybe there. 90s cartoons

got a little slap sticky a little cheesy, you

know And I just wasn't into that. So the cartoon

that would watch after that would have been the

Simpsons Futurama Some South Park I stopped watching

that early 2000s though. Yeah again, it's not

because they're bad I just don't have time for

new things in my life you know it's like he's

so focused on the old stuff folks anything before

nineteen ninety seven is fine and so if you listen

to my show i do have people on you know like

the voice of ash ketchup from pokemon in the

never watched episode of pokemon till my kids

came along and even then i still try to avoid

it but maybe so here's a little behind the scenes

of my show. After I did that interview, she told

me that was her favorite interview she's ever

done. Very cool. So maybe, you know, coming into

the interview not knowing much and not as a quote

unquote fan was what's helpful in that interview.

Very cool, very cool. Yeah, I watched maybe,

I don't know, a handful of Pokemon episodes.

And I know the general gist of it, but I have

never watched the series all the way through.

So here's a little funny behind the scenes thing

too. The Pokemon. In 99, I was dating this girl

and she had a younger brother who was, you know,

perfect generation for Pokemon. And so he wanted

to go see the movie that came out, the first

Pokemon movie. And so we took him to go see it.

So that was my first introduction to Pokemon.

And the beginning of the movie has a short, like

a five minute short. And when the short was done,

the movie theater is packed. I stood up and I

clapped. And I was like, that was fun. And I

started walking out and all the adults left.

And all the kids like, sit down. That wasn't

the movie. So that was, that was my introduction

to Pokemon. Wow. So I was making the Pokemon

fans angry day one. Yeah. Well, you know, you're

never going to win with fandom folks. You just

can't. And it's not even about that. It is about

the people, but it isn't about the people, but

it's about the whole toxic crusader ish type

BS that. Yeah. How often do you go back and rewatch

any of the cartoons you grew up? I watched DuckTales

quite a bit. You know, I do this almost like

therapy. If I want to feel good, if I want to

have, if I had a bad day, I'll put a cartoon

on. You know, it makes me happy. Makes me, it

reminds me of the good days, you know, no bills,

no stress. You know, all I did to worry about

is school and just being a kid. So I'll throw

a good DuckTales in or a ThunderCats or anything

really turtles Batman animated So quite a bit

now if I if I'm researching for an interview

It's it's funny. My wife will come in and watch

me You catch me watching something and she's

like, oh you have an interview coming up, don't

you? I was like, yep I do so I watch things for

interviews just to oh, yeah Get familiar with

their sound again, you know if I haven't heard

it a while. Yep. So yeah, I do like throwing

cartoons on every now and then. I won't watch

it all the time, you know, once a week. If that

sometimes having a bad day, maybe I'll grab a

beer, sit down, watch some good old DuckTales.

Nothing like getting drunk with Uncle Scrooge

in the money pit. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like

a Scotch drinker, right? I guess. I don't know

what uncle Scrooge does in his... Either gin

or scotch. He'd probably, maybe gin. Maybe gin.

I don't know how he could with all the swimming

he does and the money. Well, maybe that's why

he does it. Get the alcohol out of his system.

There you go. Quit drinking and swimming, Scrooge.

You're under arrest. You're gonna drown in that.

Yep. So I don't... Okay. When we initially created

these 30 questions for this show, I don't really

agree with question seven anymore because I,

well, it's just one of those things where I personally

feel like anything was made to be in the time

it was made. So question seven, which cartoons

from your childhood have you rewatched as an

adult and which ones held up the best and or

worst. I personally don't feel like anything

needs to hold up to today's standards because

it wasn't made to be in 2022. It was made in

1982, 83, 84, 2020 or 20, whenever the hell the

first Looney Tunes are not 20, 19. God, fuck.

Don't hold shit up to today's standards, folks.

It's not supposed to do that. But maybe the fact

I don't watch modern cartoon, you know Because

I don't really like family guy I don't like family

guy so I can't really hold it up to family guy.

Yeah So going back, of course, I'm gonna say

this again DuckTales ThunderCats I haven't really

ever stopped watching those two so I can't really

talk about those I don't want to hate on any

franchise. You know, I was asked this at a panel

I did Last year, they asked me what my pretty

much same thing what cartoon? Doesn't hold up

that you don't really appreciate now and I refuse

to answer then Because I didn't want people to

boo at me, but I have to think of one though

God I don't want to I mean It's almost as though

it's almost as if I need to pull up a site and

refresh memory on things, because like I said,

I watched most cartoons that were out back then.

And I don't hate on any of them. Really. It's

a mask. Well, there you go. I mean, that that

definitely doesn't hold up. Biker Meister Mars,

I don't know. I really don't know. It's because

I had memories of all of them. Yeah, exactly.

I don't know. It's going to be interesting because

I have to actually. So even though we have these

30 questions, depending on who the guest is,

depending on what their situation is of how they

grew up with the stuff, some questions I have

to skip. So we're skipping down to question nine

because question eight doesn't make any sense

for you because you haven't watched cartoons

past 1997. I could. I have seen cartoons from

them. I just don't seek them out. So you can

ask me and see what happens. Which cartoons that

aired when you were an adult have you liked the

most? I guess. Skip to question nine. No, no,

Justice League. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Justice League

is awesome. I did watch that in its entirety

when it first aired and I would have been in

my 20s. So, yeah, Justice League is awesome.

Gentlemen, it's been an honor. Are there any

cartoon I. I refuse your refusal, so you cannot

refuse to answer this. Are there any cartoons

you hate or have been greatly disappointed by?

We already know Mask. I mean, that's a given.

Okay, I'm actually going to cheat. I'm going

to Google because I seem to be reminded of some

cartoons. How much longer will these cursive

repairs take? Work faster! There are Autobots

waiting to be mangled! Even now, the Autobots

bask in what they believe to be their victory.

Never expecting us to strike at the new planet

they are exploring. Planet? What planet? We will

make that world their tomb! Galvatron, we need

time to plan, to prepare. A world called Tokulon.

Are there any cartoons you hate or have been

greatly disappointed by? Okay, I'm gonna pull

up 90s cartoons. That's why I can't find any

in the 80s. I mean, I guess I could go with that

one, even though it was after I started watching

cartoons. Yeah, I can always go with that. Okay,

I'll go with it. Okay. All right, so, um... So

this is a cartoon that came out after I was done

watching cartoons. All right Okay, I think it

came out in 99 maybe Not sure so it's a family

guy Yeah, it was somewhere around there. I I

actually watched the first season and I enjoyed

it. Okay And then he got canceled and it was

gone for what a year or two something like that

Came back and I just wasn't into it at all. I

don't know. I don't want to put anybody down

I don't know if I was the same mentally as I

was when season one came out, but the jokes just

don't hold up to me. So if you throw in a ton

of pop culture jokes, it's funny in the moment.

But in 10 years, is it going to be funny? Yeah,

January 31st, 1999 is when it debuted and I hate

that there's a dash and says present. Yeah, yeah,

it shouldn't be there. Yeah, I shouldn't say

present. I mean, I don't want to put anybody

down who watches it. It does have fun stuff in

it. It does have funny stuff in it, but it's

the same as like, let's just say like a Kevin

Smith movie. No, if you're going to throw a joke

in there just because you know it's going to

get a laugh, even though it's not the greatest

joke. But you throw in there just to get a laugh.

Is it funny? No. And you may not get the reaction

that you want. You may not get that laugh. Yeah.

You know, it may be something completely separate.

So and the fact they only rely on those kind

of laughs or the pop culture references is it's

not going to hold up. In my opinion, in my opinion.

Yeah, absolutely. All right, growing up, and

this is a really weird question, but I used to

do this with action figures at school. Did you

and your friends ever pretend to be the cartoon

characters you saw on TV at, say, school recess

or something? Like, you know, you're in the corner

being pelted by dodgeballs, and I'm gonna be

Optimus Prime and run you down. Not that Optimus

Prime would run down any children, but you know,

that. is affirmative you never know yeah dude

all the time all the time in the 80s i i remember

specifically one time we were on the monkey bars

this would have been third grade so this would

have been uh 87 would that be the third grade

for us 87 yeah 788 something like that yeah yeah

so we were sitting on the monkey bars And out

of all the cartoons i don't know why we chose

this cartoon to be the characters that we were.

Garfield and friends. Really the cartoon you

would think of to know. So somebody was john

somebody was garfield somebody was od somebody's

normal. What else duck tells we did that with

duck tells even bubba duck he gets hate but i

like bubba duck. Yeah, Thundercats, Transformers,

I think pretty much all of the cartoons back

then, during the playground time, we would always

try to mimic or, you know, do something to copy

them. You know, Thundercats Ho with whatever

he had in his hand, a pencil or a ruler or whatever.

Something like that. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

Awesome. Very cool. Very cool. All right. Who

is your end -all, be -all favorite character

from any cartoon you can pick a hero and a villain?

Oh, God. This is very hard, open -ended question.

Any hero of all time. This is almost impossible.

You can just strike this from your questions.

Nope. Not gonna happen. Make a choice. Maybe,

all right, maybe Darkwing. This is Villain. Villain.

Soundwave. Okay. Soundwave and Darkwing. Good

combination. Soundwave superior. Constructor

gods inferior. Again, we talked about this last

episode. I have an obsession with cassettes.

And as you and I both kind of talked about it,

I think it may have come from Soundwave. My love

of cassettes. And yeah, those are two good characters

to pick. Absolutely. What are some other cartoon

characters you like? Are there any you hate?

Any that I hate? Mask? No, I'm just kidding.

Again, I'm not picking on mask. I can't name

a character for a mask. That's why I can't mention

it. Other ones that I love, Eek the Cat. I loved

Scrooge McDuck. I think he's also in the top

five favorite characters of the cartoons for

me. Launchpad McQuack, Thunder, you know, Lionel

from ThunderCats, Mumra. Maybe my second favorite

villain would have been Mumra. Skeletor, my third

favorite maybe. You know, I was kissed by Skeletor.

Wait, what? Alan Oppenheimer kissed me. When

did this happen? So I was at a convention. That's

when I got my interview with him. Right, right.

And he doesn't do many interviews. I got my interview

with him and afterwards he gave me kind of a

slight hug and he kissed me on the cheek. Oh,

jeez. And then like an hour or so later, his

manager came up to me and was like, Tim, he's

never done that before. That's a little odd.

So I was honored to be kissed by Skeletor, my

chief. There you go. What year invention was

this? Let me look up my interview would have

been 2016 2017 yeah 2017 so would have been the

LA Comic Con 2017 That'll teach you to fool around

with magic And that was the same The same day

where Roosie Taylor, the voice of Minnie Mouse

and Huey Dewy and Louie, kissed me on the same

cheek as well. Twice on the same spot. I'm so

excited about tonight, aren't you? Minnie? You're

trying to get me killed? Hmm, maybe. Oh, Mickey

Mouse, you forgot, didn't you? Oh, no. Oh, Roosie

Taylor. Yeah, who passed away a couple years

ago, unfortunately. Well, at least. Mickey and

Minnie are together in heaven. Amen to that.

So she, she told me, I know we're going totally

side. Good. She told me a story when I hung out

with her. So I hung out with her for a couple

of hours at the convention because I was hosting

the DuckTales reunion for DAF radio, which is

another show at the time. And I was hosting the

panel. Okay. And, uh, so she was there as her,

um, Comic -Con first ever appearance at a Comic

-Con. So it was kind of a big deal. So I was

hanging out backstage for about a couple of hours.

We were backstage next to the main stage and

on the main stage stage was rock the rock. You

know, Dwayne Johnson and she was geeking out.

She was like almost turning red, like blushing

that she was only probably about 20 feet from

the rock. It was this, you know, this older gal

at the time she was in a wheelchair and just

in out that the rock is just right there. Almost

she can almost reach out and touch them. Oh,

very cool, very cool. All right. For you, question

13 is pretty loaded because you have 200 episodes,

over 200 episodes of them. But who are some of

your favorite cartoon voices and or voice actors?

So the voices and the voice actors. OK, so my.

Hmm, that's about to answer it, but. That's hard

to say. My favorite living voice actor, all right,

is Cory Burton. Yes. At long last, I serve you,

my liege, under my true colors. Rise, shockwave,

my most loyal servant. Which character, though?

I mean, he was he was Soundwave. Sound you know,

so you can't really say it's him Frank with a

vocoder, but yeah So which one of his he does

he does Dale from Chip and Dove Rescue Rangers,

but again his voice has changed I don't know.

It's like I think it's why I just love him so

much because he's just a Lot of things a lot

of different voices, you know He's a voice of

lot of disney like icons even disney park things

like you go to disneyland and you hear his voice

mimic all free is like nobody else can which

paul freese is spoiler alert he's my favorite.

Dead voice actor paul freese was. Of course he

was ludwig ludwig von drake. and the ghost host

at Disneyland's Haunted Mansion. So those two

are probably my favorite. And why I like both

of them, why I like Cory might be because he

mimics Paul Freeze. He's pretty much the person

who stepped into his shoes and took over his

roles because he does Ludwig von Drake, you know?

So maybe that's why I love both of them. Yeah.

Paul replaced Optimus Prime. Jerks not not Paul

Paul's not a jerk, but in Knight Rider Peter

Cullen was the voice of car initially and then

in season three when they brought him back it

was Paul freeze and all as I can remember from

this episode is it was this beach kid beach boat

kid named John and his girlfriend named Mandy

and and John gets into the car and John's like

When's when's Alan Funk gonna jump out of the

and Paul freeze in the car when Paul freezes

for Was that fun gonna pop up and say smile you're

on camera. Who's Alan fund and I'm just like,

oh my god I need to correct myself. So you so

yeah, you know Cory wasn't the voice of sound

wave. Didn't he do sound wave in the movie though?

No, that was Frank too. Corey was shockwave and

Transformers. I could have sworn he did Soundwave

at some point, but you're right. See, I thought

they didn't get Frank. I don't remember the movies.

No, the live action movie, they got Frank. Okay,

I see. For some reason, I thought they got Corey

Burton. No. I don't remember the movies. I just

remember the first movie. First live action one.

I don't remember. That's why I was confused.

I thought it was corey for the live -action movie.

So let me rephrase that he did not do sound wave

That was in fact frank welker who is one of my

other all -time favorites and he's a sweetheart

such a nice guy um and look up his voice dude

he He can do anything. I mean you can look up

frank welker But you really can't look up frank

welker because you're going to be scrolling for

days folks Yeah, I know. It's amazing what that

man can do. Yup. Even though I say Corey's my

favorite living, you know, it's hard. You know,

Frank and even Peter Colen, you can't deny what

those two have done during their career. And

Mel Blank, you know, can't deny those guys their

talent. Gosh, I'm so unimportant. Gosh, I'm so

unimportant. Oh gosh, I'm, I'm so unimportant.

That's it. I like that. Modest, unassuming. It's

me. Get me out of this gold darn contraption!

Oh brother, fifty -first and a half on a first

read. Who writes the slop? Ugh. Happy birthday,

old chum. Old pal. Old buddy. The next thing

you know, they'll stick me with three snot -nosed

nephews. I wouldn't put it past them. It's just...

Warner Brothers doesn't have an original bone

in its... Okay, people. Places. Okay, this is

Bugs Bunny's 51st and a half anniversary spectacular.

Take one. This is inconceivable! Eh, cut. No,

don't cut. Let the cameras roll and record it

for posterity whilst I give this stupid Nimrod

a severe dressing down. Sir, you have desecrated

the spirit of show business make -believe by

using real bullets. Cut! No, don't cut! Now get

rid of this stupid thing, take your little prop

gun, and stick to the script! Cut! No, don't

cut! And another thing, expect a call from my

attorneys about this unfortunate incident. And

brother, when they call, you'd better... Now

can we cut? You smug son of a - Absolutely. Okay,

so I know you're not a modern cartoon guy, but

I'll have to find you clips, but you remember

Shockwave from TF2 -1, right? Yes, yes. So you

remember Corey's Shockwave voice? Yes. Corey

went on in the future. In 2007, with Transformers

Animated, he came back and he played multiple

voices, but three major voices he played was

Ratchet, Megatron, and Longarm Prime, aka Shockwave.

Now, I'm going to send you a video after the

show about... Shockwave because of the simple

fact that you have, and the reason why you'll

want to watch this is because you've talked to

both these guys. Corey Burton is Shockwave. John

Esbler. And John is running through the Esbler,

is running through the hallways and Shockwave's

like, I know I can't catch you, but maybe I,

and I'm doing a really shitty Shockwave impression,

but I can trap you. But like, there are two scenes

in Transformers Animated, that scene where Shockwave

kills Blur, and the scene at some point in the

Season 3 opener, Transwarp, where, so throughout

the whole series, Shockwave slash Longarm Prime,

he's this spy bot, he's going to the Autobots

as Longarm Prime, he's racing through the ranks,

but really he's... the Decepticon because he

has shape shifting abilities and he can change

his shape and change whatever. Well, in season

three, the season three premiere called trans

warped. He. I was this was 2000. I think this

was 2008, 2009. This probably 2009 when season

three aired. I have to look at the dates. I'm

looking at the day. I was somewhere between twenty

seven and twenty nine years old Saturday morning,

six friggin AM watching this show. I already

knew that it was Corey because I'd already been

watching it. So I already knew it was his voice.

That's fine. But the design for long arm prime

in the show, he's teal and gray and other colors.

Okay. In this episode, he, you know, goes to

Megatron. Ah, my lord. And it's essentially him

talking to himself because he's voicing Megatron

too. But he's like, ah, my loyal servant shockwave

and in the shockwave voice, Corey says, and at

long last, I can finally serve you under my true

colors. And they have these in the show, they

have the the weird change, paint, thing, design,

whatever. His colors change from gray and teal

to purple and black. I literally almost. That's

cool late 20s almost 30 friggin years old. I

literally almost fell out of my bed. That is

awesome Yeah, little so I will send you those

videos after the show But yes, no Cory Burton

amazing. I love that guy and the interview that

I had with them is still it's so good Probably

even though it was like eight years ago and the

audio quality is not as good as what you hear

now in the podcast but I'm just You know, I keep

my cool I get told this a lot, too. I geek out

internally. It never comes across the microphone.

But I'm geeking out majorly internally when I'm

interviewing him. Because here he is, my favorite

living voice actor. Somebody who I was told I

wouldn't get on the show, honestly. Oh, boy.

And there he is. And then, OK, here's a little

behind the scenes. I may have mentioned this

on the episode. I'm not sure. But his publicist

says, OK, you have 20 minutes. Don't go past

20 minutes. I was like, oh, yes, ma 'am. I won't

go past 20 minutes, all right? Yes, ma 'am. So

you'll hear me try to cut it off around 20 minutes.

All right. I was like, all right, Corey, I need

to end it here. Blah, blah, blah. He keeps talking.

All right. So a 30 something minutes come in

and you'll hear me again trying to end it. He

keeps going. I'm thinking, all right, if he wants

to keep going, we're going to keep going. I think

I tried to end it one more time within like 40

something minutes. Keeps going. I want to say

the interview isn't this long because we talked

off the record. We talked for almost two hours.

Yeah, I interviewed and give us in at some point

five years after the fact after that And I told

him that story. He was like, you know, tim we

did transformers for some some some odd years

You talk to corey more than I ever have combined

I think something just connected. I don't know,

you know because even his published publicist

said that he was a fan of my show. So he listens

to my show. Maybe not all of them, but he's heard

my show before and he was a fan. So that was

this cool moment, you know, to hear that. Yeah.

And with some of these interviews that we get,

because like I said, at the beginning of last

week, and I guess I said this week, like I haven't

gotten all the people that you've gotten, but

I've gotten a good fair few amount over the last

13, 14 years. And like we just did one recently

in the last couple of months with David Kay.

Nice person said it was our third his third appearance

on the on the on the network the publicist person

said you have 30 minutes Thing went for over

an hour. Yeah. Yeah, I love that Because the

thing is is once you get these guys talking and

you have any questions They want to keep going

and if they want to keep going that's on them

That's, you know, and it's awesome. We love it.

Don't get me wrong. Look, I'm never going to

say anything where I get more time with an actor,

voice actor, musician, whatever it is. So, and

I assume you do, obviously, but do you, did you

ever own anything based on a cartoon? Comics,

coloring books, toys, obviously. Yes. But like,

what are, what are, what are some of your favorite

things that you've owned? So GI Joe's Probably

the most toys of a cartoon series that I had

were GI Joe's 20 plus characters handful of vehicles

Had a couple of Transformers had some Thundercats

had some he -man. I think GI Joe was kind of

the first Cartoons here that a ton of and then

real Ghostbusters. I had a couple of them that

I loved We had a Christmas one year where pretty

much everything we got was the whole entire toy

franchise of tailspin. So every toy they released,

we got for Christmas, which is probably one of

my favorite Christmases, honestly. So we had

Baloo and Louie and Kit, and I remember even

making my own little bar to make it Louie's bar

out of these building blocks. And that was a

good Christmas. And then the Christmas tree was,

you know, Baloo's little Whatever that little

island was called where he Keeps his head. No,

whatever his where's home? Well, I guess it was

a branch of capes who's at you know what I mean?

It kind of felt like a secluded though were his

Okay, I know what I mean where the business was

it seemed like it was Entirely attached but I'm

sure it was as a kid is kind of felt a little

separate from keeps is that you know But yeah,

but now as an adult I collect animation cells

So in case you don't know, I'm sure you know

what they are, but if a listener doesn't know

what they are, they are the actual hand drawn

and hand painted cells you see on the cartoon

itself. So let's say if my cell was missing from

the show, if you're watching it, there will be

like a half a second where it's blank. Nothing

would be there because that was the actual copy

that you saw on the screen. So I actually own

physical copies of my favorite cartoons. So that's

something I enjoy collecting as an adult because

they can get quite expensive. I have a good amount

of Ducktales, probably five cells from Ducktales.

I got one from Thundercats. Got one from Ghostbusters.

Nothing from Transformers because those are hard

to find. Yeah, they are. If you do, they're usually

cut up, honestly. People used to cut out the

figure from the cell. That's sad. I know it is.

It's sad to think that people didn't really care

about these items. Something cool that Walt Disney

the person would do when he was done making an

animated feature in the 40s and plus years, he

would give the voice actors or people working

on the movie an animation cell that was framed.

And so often those are the ones you can find

for sale or an auction are the ones that he would

give out as gifts to people who worked on the

movie. Very cool. I have a couple from does I

have one from? Oh Can't think a great mouse detective.

I have one from that I Think that's my only Main

Disney feature film because here if you if you're

looking at feature films, you're talking about

five to ten thousand dollars Good one, you know

what I mean? Yeah, so it can get pricey, but

I have a good I have a good amount I'm gonna

make a video at some point on YouTube about my

collection of animation cells. Very cool, very

cool. Yeah, I don't know how many of us would

want an animation cell of that castle, though,

that castle under the sea, you know, it kind

of made that a little, a little too lifelike.

Yes, yes. What is your favorite cartoon theme

song? Oh, man. I think it's going to go to a

Disney. at Disney show, because those were just

iconic. And though I love Thundercats theme song,

Transformers is just an earworm that gets into

you and just, you know, you can't get rid of

it. I love it. Let's see. It's going to be between

Tell Spin and DuckTales. Tell Spin was iconic.

That was just a great theme song. I'm going to

say DuckTales though. Yeah, DuckTales. Absolutely.

How big is your animation, DVD or digital collection?

I don't do digital. I'm OK. I'm fairly anti digital

and that you can't find anywhere else. Yeah.

Like I own probably like five movies on digital

because you can't find them on Blu Ray. So that's

about it. DVDs probably. Probably a hundred and

fifty Maybe a hundred it did take up to giant

Yeah, probably 120. I'll go with 120 Very cool,

very cool Which cartoons cartoon or cartoons

had the biggest impact on your life Okay, this

would be the first time where I don't say DuckTales,

because I don't think it really made a huge impact

on my life. Other than it was fun and gave me

good memories. Maybe... Maybe X -Men. Really?

Because at that time, as a teenager, I felt like

I was an outcast. I lived in Reno, Nevada, from

pretty much from the time I was three to 13.

So it was all pretty much remember. And then

when I was 13, I moved to the panhandle of Florida.

And it's nothing like Florida that you would

think this is I don't want to talk negative about

it. But it's it's not Miami, you know? Yeah,

it's very, it's very much the south. Yeah, very

different from what I was used to on the west

coast. Yeah, so I Had no friends. My brother

was older that time. He would have been 15. So

he stopped hanging out with me. Nobody hang out

with. I was made fun of every day in school from

eighth grade until probably mid 11th grade. Every

day get made fun of like majorly like super bad.

Wow. You would think I'd go home and dwell on

it, but I didn't. And I think X -Men kind of.

This is where to say X -Men and Saved by the

Bell helped me kind of cope with it. All right.

Yeah, so Saved by the Bell because it kind of

Transported me to the West Coast. Mm -hmm. If

that makes sense. Oh, yeah, absolutely. How did

they remind me of my friends on the West Coast?

Mm -hmm. And X -Men because it was mutants and

they were different, you know, people didn't

like them and I guess that's what I'll say, is

the X -Men just kind of helped me cope being

the stranger to a new town. Absolutely. Every

time I move, Kelly Kapowski can come help me

cope anytime she wants. Amen to that. Amen to

that. And I'm speaking of the character, folks.

I know the real -life actress is actually happily

married with children and all that and everything

else, but 90s Kelly Kapowski, let's go. Now,

this is going to be interesting because I don't

think that, well, the question after this one

is going to be really interesting. You talk about

yourselves and things like that. What's the most

money you ever spent on a cartoon item? Oh, my

wife. Good thing she doesn't listen to this.

We already spent the money, so it doesn't really

matter at this point. I have a lot. Yeah, besides

sales, because I don't know, sales I don't think

would be the most. I'm looking at my collection

right now in my office. Well, it kind of counts.

I have a signed autograph of Roy Disney. Not

Walt Disney, but Roy Disney, if that counts.

Not really, though. I guess. It kind of counts,

but it kind of not. So there's that there's also

this one kind of counts, but kind of not as well

So I have a Ninja Turtle head That is a hundred

percent replica of the 90s movie, even though

it's a live -action movie, right? Kind of is

in the same spectrum. Oh, yeah the series. Yeah

So I have that and I can wear it and everything

and the mouth can kind of move But it looks amazing,

dude. It looks amazing I actually am going to

be so early and talk about this at all to anybody

and creating a second show. Oh boy. This is kind

of why I stopped doing Saturday morning rewind

months ago or three months ago it's back now

by the way I'm still doing it is I retired for

a couple months it's back but I was focusing

more on the second show which is gonna be based

on everything. Even movies and TV shows that

aren't cartoon. that was pre 2000. So anything

pre 2000 is fair game for the show. And it's

going to be a video show on YouTube. I'm using

the turtle head for the background. I'm actually

creating a mannequin of the Ninja Turtle. I even

bought latex that I'm making my own parts for

the rest of the body. Wow. And I'll paint it

and to cheat I am using the trench coat. Yes.

That's the easiest way to cheat and it still

looks amazing. Yeah. So I'm excited for that.

That's all I'll say about the new show coming

in 2023. Just stay tuned for that. Do we have

a title yet? We do. I named it last week. So

this is exclusive as well. Exactly. I actually

have the domain and everything given all the

handles on Instagram and everything. I like to

keep the theme of rewind. It's gonna be my branding

and of course except will be probably involved

as well Yeah, so one is gonna be called pressing

rewind because I'll be taking you back to the

past We're gonna press rewind and taking you

back to the past to talk about everything pre

-2000. That's awesome. Very cool. Very cool That's

not helping. So I mentioned earlier that question

19 is gonna be really really interesting because

for me personally, I Tried watching the Simpsons.

I was at a then stepmother's at the time. I was

at her family's house with them and with her

and with my dad. And I turned the Simpsons on

and Homer said something that threw everybody

in. Oh my God. Oh my God. You can't watch the

Simpsons. Oh my God. It's the end of the world.

Yep. Do you have a my parents wouldn't let me

watch that cartoon story? Let's see here. I don't

know if I do. OK, nothing bad towards them, but

they were never there. Right, right. Yeah, they

were a working family. You know, my dad was an

executive chef at a restaurant, so he was there

for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Even on the

weekends, I think he was gone to it. No, I think

weekends he was mainly home. And mom would have

been there, but she would have been doing housework

or some other things. So I don't know if they

were even familiar with what I was watching as

a kid to keep track of things. So no. And South

Park came out later. You know, I was 19 when

that came out. Yeah, that's, that's, but like,

so two things with my then stepmother at the

time. Oh my God, they freaked out over the Simpsons.

And then she saw me watching. Ironically, and

I don't know how this whatever, I don't know

what. She saw me watching BTIS and something

happened, either a gunshot or, and there were

no bullets on that show. They didn't show that.

Yes, they fired guns, but like. Like she's like,

oh my god, this is too violent You're gonna turn

into a homicidal maniac if you keep watching

this idiot in this bat uniform So yeah, that's

I do remember holding a Simpsons water bottle

when the show first came out and I was at church

when I was holding it But my parents didn't do

anything about it, so I guess they didn't really

care What? This is where I keep my holy water.

What's wrong with you people? I had, it was,

I would, you know, we were between nine and 12

during its initial height. Obviously 89, it kind

of got, you know, whatever, but by 90, 91 a night,

soon as Michael Jackson and Bart Simpson got

together, you knew, you know, like it was a thing.

So for me, I had Simpsons and I say this and

I've said this in every single podcast that I

have done recently. When I talk about the eighties

and I talk about animation and things like that.

The eighties is a timeline of animation because

things started and stopped. Yeah. 1983. Let's

start there. In 1983, He -Man starts, goes to

85. She -Ra starts, but in 84 you have Voltron

and Transformers. You have other things in 84,

I'm sure. 85, obviously, Thundercats and Mask

and Jem... Jem... Yeah, Jem was 85, yes. You

know, you have all this stuff. Transformers ends

at 87, Turtles picks up, Turtles goes from 87

to 96. But throughout that in 88, you had an

88, 89, 90, 91, you had Disney afternoon, you

had Gumbears. You have all these things that

you go through, that it's a timeline of things.

So from one thing to the next, to the next, to

the next. So that's the thing about. the whole,

you know, the Simpsons era. And by Christmas

of 92, I had like short of an actual, you know,

red shirt and blue shorts and a Bart Simpson

mask. I had Rambart shirts. I had Bartman shirts.

I had every single piece of Eat My Shorts material.

I had it no matter what. You couldn't escape

it. You had to embrace it and it was fun. Yep.

Yep. Absolutely. Oh, now that think about it,

I don't think my parents really liked Red and

Stimpy. Who the hell? Thank God. They're smart.

That show sucks. Yeah, I don't remember being

able to watch. I watched it, but it's not a ton

of it, though. It's. It's gross out humor and.

That's not my thing. So like, I don't mind humor

going gross, but doing some of the things they

did on that show is a little too far. Yeah. And

the guy that originally originated that show,

he's on the same level as Cosby, honestly, as

a human. So that's what I've heard. Yeah. All

right. Well, I'll ask you this but you haven't

seen many of them. What is your opinion on cartoon

reboots and which ones do you think have been

the most successful? All right, reboots. I watched,

I try to at least watch some of them so I can

have opinions on them like I said about the DuckTales

one. DuckTales one was okay, one not for me.

I enjoyed the Undercats reboot that came out

in the mid 2000s. 2011, yep. Yeah, I didn't watch

the whole thing. I watched maybe four or five

episodes. I enjoyed it. I thought it was different.

They changed it up and the animation was beautiful.

I really like that. Even as a huge original Thundercats

fan, I really enjoyed that. And I don't know

if I've seen many, name some of the reboots.

I don't remember. Besides Transformers, I know

there's a million Transformers. I haven't seen

any of those. I haven't seen any of the He -Mans

besides the original. Yeah. You should check

out the 2002 He -Man. You should check out the

CGI He -Man. It's very, like I said, I think

I said this last week, or I might've said this

earlier today. I don't remember. Earlier in this

recording, I don't remember. What 1983, what

Filmation He -Man was to us as the... young children

that we were then is to what the CGI Netflix

series is what I think it should be for kids

today kind of thing. There have been a couple

of G .I. Joe ones. Nope, haven't seen those.

Okay, there was what else? I don't know. Muppet

Babies. I didn't really want to watch the Muppet

Babies because it was more for kids this time

around, more preschool age, I think. This new

movie compared to the original Muppet baby. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they were they were definitely

aging that down, which is fine That's what that's

fine. Yeah, absolutely on that whatsoever. Yep

All right, which cartoon series from the past?

Would you most want to see more of today whether

it be reboot live -action movie or any other

form media really seriously? For me when I look

at this question up my thought of that the way

I would ask this question is if they took the

animation from then and Continued it like which

cartoons would you want to see the most of? Yeah,

I wouldn't want to reboot. I'm just again. I'm

just against reboots. There's it's just lazy

I think honestly And and most of the time I'm

not saying all the time most of the time you

can't top the original I'm sure it's been done.

I'm sure, you know, I can be proven wrong, but

most of the time you can't really outdo the original.

I mean, look at Thundercats Ho. Isn't that the

name of the show that came out a couple years

ago? Oh, the stupid Thundercats Roar. Roar. Yeah,

that's what that was. And it barely got a season.

You didn't even know where like literally I unless

I had to like. What? Like I literally downloaded

the Cartoon Network app just to be able to try

to watch it. And I'm just like, oh, my. That's

one that I didn't watch anything on. And I can

easily voice my opinion without even watching

an episode, I think. I think watching the trailer

was what you saw on the cartoon. Yeah, pretty

much it was. So I can say that it looked awful

and I will never watch it. And whoever made it

should be. Yeah. Yeah. oh it's no good sorry

let's see something so i wouldn't want to reboot

either a continuance you can always transform

our timeline easily but i think they've probably

have done that with some of the reboots or some

of them yeah i mean every show is different You

know going from generation one into g2 Which

g2 really didn't have a show because it was just

generation one redone kind of was just old It

just threw on beginning and ending a cybernetic

space cube and all that BS. Yeah Let's see what

else then there was Beast Wars in the 90s piece.

Yeah, I never watched beach. I never watched

that either They're good. They're really, really

good. Beast Wars and Beast Machines are different.

They're not generation one, but they have plenty

of generation one homages in them. But you still

have some sort of similar character types. We

dig them here at the Geek Cast Radio Network.

So they're really awesome. I'll say that I wouldn't

mind it if somebody made a live action movie.

based on some of the franchises of the eighties,

if they do it right. You know, don't get Michael

Bay to direct it. Don't get, get somebody who

has love and knowledge of these characters and

make a live action movie. Hopefully the He -Man

movie is going to be okay. You know? Is it even

happening? I saw yesterday they hired the He

-Man. They have a, they have an actor now as

of yesterday. Is it that Noah kid or somebody

else? I forget. But I mean, he doesn't look like

my He -Man, but whatever. He's he's bulking up,

he said in the interview. So good for him. Let's

see. I mean, I didn't I didn't hate Masters of

the Universe with Dolph Lundgren. I didn't hate

it. It was bad, but I didn't hate it. But OK,

so I wouldn't be opposed to a Thundercats live

action movie or a CG live action movie. You know

what I mean? Yeah. Is if they did it right. And

I think those are I think those are characters

where there's a lot of good characters to choose

from. to make it right. You can go with the snarf

from 2011 if you want to make it so he doesn't

talk. Even though I love the original snarf,

I can understand if you choose to go in a serious

direction and make it so he doesn't talk. So

a serious Thundercats movie, I think, could be

really good. Well, the next question is all about

sidekicks. And this character that I'm going

to mention is not a sidekick, but I meant to

mention this last week. It always, it didn't,

as a kid, I found it strange. It didn't creep

me out. It didn't weird me out, but it was just

really strange that you have grandpa Huxtable

at night and pan throw during the day. I'm like,

wait, what? Wait, what? I know it's so great.

Oh Earl, we miss you Earl. That's a voice. That's

another one of those, hey, I know that voice

or that that's one of those, oh my God, it's

just his voice. I know, so much power behind

that little voice there. Absolutely. What is

your opinion of the cartoon sidekick, Snarf,

Orko, et cetera, et cetera. Do you love them,

hate them, don't care either way? I don't remember

hating any of them when I was a kid. I don't.

Even still, I like Orko. I like Snarf. I like,

I guess, Odie even could be a sidekick character.

Yeah. I think normal is more the side. Garfield

and Odie were kind of on the same kind of footing.

Like, yes, Garfield is the star, but... Odie

is also there and then you bring in normal. You

know, I didn't hate normal. Normal wasn't in

there long enough for me to fully hate. You know

what I mean? Garfield was already always picking

on normal. So I didn't hate normal. So I can't

think. What are some other sidekicks? So let's

see, Scott and T Bob, any human child and he

man in the Masters of the Universe from 83. Snarfer.

Who else? Who else? Who else? I guess technically,

Scrappy do. Hey, hey, hey, watch it. There are

I didn't hate them. Okay, good. I didn't get

them because There's a long running debate here

at the Geocaster network about whether Scrappy

is a good character or not, or whether your people

just hate him to hate him. Look, I say this is

my personal opinion, folks. This has nothing

to do with the network. This has nothing to do

with Tooncast. I'm not saying overall whatever,

but for me personally, like you mentioned earlier,

that you got bullied and you got picked on. Yeah.

Who the hell wants to run away and hide under

a damn table waiting for a damn scooby snack?

I want I want to be able to get up and stand

up like that's what scrappy was scrappy was the

Stand -up to the bullies the bad guys, whatever

he better what your size. Mm -hmm. Yeah Yeah,

no, I know never I never disliked them. I was

like them. Yeah, and I said before even bubba

duck People are on the negative side with Bubba,

but I love Bubba Duck. I loved him as a kid.

I think he's a good character. In your opinion,

which decade represents the golden era of cartoons

and why 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s

or today? Of course, you really can't go past

the 90s, but I'm going to say the there's two.

There's two. I'm going to go. I'm going to say

the 30s. Okay. Walt Disney. Mickey Mouse. Yep.

That without Mickey Mouse, the world would be

different without Mickey Mouse. We'll just say

that. The world would be a different world if

it wasn't for Mickey Mouse. And with what Walt

did, and even with Oswald, Lucky Rabbit, which

was before Mickey Mouse, we wouldn't have Mickey

Mouse if it wasn't for Oswald. So if it wasn't

for what Walt Disney did in the 30s, The world

will be a totally different world. But as another

answer, I'm going to say the eighties, of course,

because that's what I love. And the most iconic

cartoon series, I believe, came from the eighties.

Awesome. Very cool. Very cool. So think of the

old. All the old men you saw on TV denouncing

cartoons when you think of this question. Some

people view cartoons as something for children,

and don't view animation as a serious form of

media that adults should consume. Who should

cartoons be made for in your opinion? Um, we'll

see. Well, I think they're made for everybody.

Yep, that's it. Let's go back to Walt Disney.

Let's go back to the Looney Tunes times. Those

were made for everybody because they put them

before every movie in the theaters as their opener.

Yep. And most people that saw movies were adults.

Yeah. Not a lot of kids go into movies back then.

No, not back then. And thus it was a special,

you know, a family -friendly movie or whatever,

but. Which Snow White is not. No, no. Back then,

especially because. Animation was new to people

back then, especially feature film animation.

Yeah. And so, yeah, it's for everybody. Walt

Disney, I think, even said it, how he makes things

for everybody to enjoy. Absolutely. And I need

to make a side note. Mickey Mouse did not come

out in the 30s. It was 28, 1928. But the 30s

is what you think of when you truly think of

Mickey Mouse and the love. growing for Mickey

Mouse. Yeah, absolutely. All right, we are now

entering the cartoon fantasy land. Questions

25 to 29 are all about the fictional universes

and things and everything else. So anything Tim

says in these next questions, it's fake, folks.

It's make believe. Basically, imagine an animated

trolley taking you from Mr. Rogers neighborhood

into the land of make believe. If you could live

on any, no, sorry. If you could own any vehicle

featured in a cartoon, which would it be? Okay,

man. There's so many good ones. The vehicle.

The thunder tank. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Can

you get that cool theme music with it too. For

sure. Yeah. The theme music playing and Panthers

always driving. Absolutely. If you could live

in any cartoon world that you wanted, where would

you live? And obviously it should go without

saying that you can breathe. Like how many people

I've asked this question to like, Oh, well, if

I can't breathe on Cybertron, why would I want

to live there? Or if I can't breathe it under

the whatever snorks village. Uh -huh. Yep Okay,

if I can live anywhere in any Um, I don't want

to be anywhere dangerous. So i'm not gonna say

third earth from thundercats I don't think I

do. I do not want to live there. Do not want

to live there cape cousineau Saint canard no

same reasons a little too dangerous i'm gonna

go with duckberg because Really? There's not

too many bad guys you gotta worry about as long

as you're not super rich, you know? Yeah. So

it just seemed like a happy place to be. Yeah,

absolutely. Who would, so basically you get to

start a barbershop quartet, so you are one fourth,

so you get to pick three. Who would your top

three tune pals be to join you? Goofy Mickey

and Donald. Really? Just because it would be

a very interesting They're the first ones to

pop up I See, I mean, I don't remember what I

initially I probably said something like Rodimus

Prime scrappy doing something else in my episode

I don't remember what I said in episode 46 of

the show, but like as you're saying that my first

thought is Jessica Rabbit, Roger Rabbit, and

Donald Duck. No, no, no. Jessica Rabbit, Daffy

Duck, and Donald Duck, because I want to see

the two ducks go at it. Alright, so you are not

married. You don't have children. Oh man, that's

sad. Well, it's a fictional world, dude. If you

could date any cartoon character, which would

it be and why? Okay, there's two. My first cartoon

crushes. Uh -huh. First one to be Ariel, Little

Mermaid. I think she was my first crush. Maybe,

no, Linda Carter was my first crush. Like, my

first real crush was Linda Carter. Uh -huh, yeah.

So Ariel will be the first one and then it would

be Jessica Rabbit as my second one. Yeah, that

was my... One and only answer. It was very easy.

Jessica Rabbit, hands down. I had the same crush

on both of them when I was a kid. So the answer

would be no different if you asked me in 89.

And I mean, hey, fast forward, you know, to Toy

Story times, you have, you know, Barbie and Batman

is like, holy crap, Barbie and Batman got married.

Yikes. All right. What is the holy grail of cartoon

artifacts, the Sword of Omens, the Matrix of

Leadership, the Power Sword, etc.? I'm going

to say... I'm gonna say the Power Sword. Because

it really defined that character, you know, without

the Sword of... I think Thundercats would have

been okay without the Sword of Omens, you know,

they wouldn't be strong and as powerful, but...

And the power sword really. Yeah. You know, defined

who he was, you know, if that makes sense. No,

absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. It did. All

right, folks, we are now exiting the cartoon

fantasy land. So everything from now on is real.

Yeah. We're now. And a wife. Yes. Yes. Well,

I mean, you know, like in case any. significant

other spell of any guest. That's why, that's

why it's fictional. But sometimes people nowadays

don't understand the term fictional. So, you

know, final question, what is one piece of advice

that you'd give the cartoon fandom in general?

Just relax. Your cartoon that you love, just

relax. You know, you can defend it and all. But

to a certain degree, it wasn't yours to control.

You know, even though I hated Thundercats Roar,

that's what it was called. You know, it didn't

kill me. It wasn't the end of my love for the

Thundercats. I didn't go out and do bad things

because it was created. Just take a chill pill.

If people aren't on your side, like I said, DuckTales

is my favorite cartoon. I'm sure it's not everybody's

favorite cartoon. People might even hate it.

I don't know why, but you might hate it. So just

relax. Your cartoons will always be your cartoons.

They'll always be there for you, which is great.

That's why I love them. They're always there

if you need them. Absolutely. All right, folks,

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