Tim Nydell on His Top 10 Animated Series

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Beyond good, beyond evil, beyond your wildest

imagination. Luchbard, is this a stunt you learned

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course. Now he tells me. Hello and welcome to

Tooncast. This is episode 289. This is a special

episode because I needed something to fill this

and what was going to be in this spot can't be

in this spot because sadly the guest that I was

going to get is currently unavailable. But I

am of course TF2 and Mike and I'm doing this

kind of backwards and I'm doing this with a purpose.

We all love the year 1989, right? The year, not

the Taylor Swift album. Thank you very much.

And yeah, so, but that's not when the Disney

afternoon started. So you're going to hear these

episodes kind of backwards. Joining me is someone

who has talked to far more voice actors and celebrities

than I ever have. God damn it. And it is none

other than Mr. Saturday Morning Rewind himself,

Tim Nydel. Hello, sir. Hello, everybody. I'm

glad it can be your plan B for this episode.

I'm honored. Well, you know, I mean, the, the,

the tune cast origins that you're going to go

through next week was always going to be, that

was always the plan. I just had something else

in for this and I was like, oh crap. Nope, I

get it. I'm honored to finally be on the show.

Have you never been on there? Maybe like nine

or eight years ago? Maybe? I don't remember.

I know I was on your show for the Joe Aleski

tribute because he passed away in 2016, you,

me, Gary, and a bunch of voicemails. But yes,

Tim Nydell, world renowned Tim Nydell, person

who Disney tried to come after because of...

See, we both have infamous stories. You have

a Jim Cummings, oh my God, that wasn't supposed

to be out there story. I have a Maurice LaMarche,

oh my God, that wasn't supposed to be out there

story. In my story, I don't think I've ever really

fully told it on my show either, so I can talk

about it here. Okay, go ahead. Oh, you would

do that then, huh? Why not? We already brought

it up. Okay, so this would have, oh God, I don't

know when this would have been. Because I think

I've had that Jim Cummings interview that was

like you had him on like four times, but it was

like times. Yeah. It was right before his duck

tails because it was the thing with the dark

wing. He wasn't supposed to say that. So I, he

was, I think if I remember correctly, I, Even

had it, I had all planned out. I wasn't even

going to ask about the new DuckTales because

I knew he couldn't talk about it, all right,

because he wasn't even on the show yet as Darkwing

Duck. But it was rumored that he was going to

be on the show as Darkwing Duck. I forgot how

I asked it, but he just killed the beans, man.

He just opened up that can of worms, just kept

on talking. He went into full detail. How? Darkwing

Duck was going to be on the reboot of DuckTales.

And this is probably a good year before Darkwing

even appeared on the reboot of DuckTales. And

he told me everything. I forget what it was,

but he told me that Darkwing was going to be

a TV, you know, TV character that Launchpad was

obsessed with and all that kind of stuff. And

it wasn't, I think it was like a day later, maybe

two days later, got an email from Disney. Disney

lawyers weren't too happy with it. Now they,

me to say this, they were okay with my show.

I didn't do anything wrong. They just asked me,

politely asked me if I can edit those like five

to 10 minutes out of that interview, which I

did. They said I didn't have to, but I don't

want to be on the bad side of Disney. Who does?

Yeah, no, nobody wants to be on Mickey's evil

side. No, absolutely not. So if you listen to

it for the first two days, maybe in the first

one day, you got to hear the whole thing. Actually,

I do have that audio. I saved it somewhere. Yeah.

So that was a little, oh my God moment. I need

to go home from work right now and edit that

out. Uh huh. Yep. And everyone knows my story.

My story was we had Maurice LaMarche on. One

of the questions we always ask voice actors is,

what type of voice acting do you like the most?

Because there's character animation, there's

ad narration, there's video games. And Maurice

was like, oh, video games, just you in a room

talking to yourself. And he's like, I just finished

a session for Batman Arkham City. I was playing

the voice of Mr. Freeze. I stopped for like a

half a beat and then I was like, can you give

us a sample? He's yeah, no, sir. He, he didn't

go super far. He went far enough to where some

little website picked it up. IGN picked it up.

And once IGN picks up anything with video games,

you're done. I spent the whole day trying to

get ahold of him or his age. I'm so sorry. I'm

at the end of every episode. Every interview

I do now is there. Anything that we've said in

the time that we've had that you want me to cut

out because I. That is smart to ask that. I don't

ask that, but maybe I should. You should. Every

now and then I get an email from them, you know,

maybe an hour or so later. Do you mind tweaking

this part of the interview where I said this?

I think it was. Yeah. Actually, Cory Burton was

one of those. He didn't say it after the fact,

but he was like, I'll tell you what you just

asked if we don't air it. All right. OK. So I

was like, all right. So I mean, I still recorded

it because it was. Well, yeah, you're going to

record it, but you edit it out after the fact.

It was a project that he worked on that he didn't

want the credit for. I want to say, OK, say that.

Oh, boy. Yikes. That's Yikes. Project Zondi.

Well, let's hope it wasn't any Transformers,

which I don't think it was. It was it was an

animation. Oh, okay. Well, then that doesn't

matter. All right, folks, so we are here. This

is a special episode. And on the GeekCaster,

you know, you've heard us do, thanks to that

100 clickable, lovely list of IGNs, 100 animated

series, clicking through 100 pages. Great. Take

me all day to click through 100 pages. We started

the top 100 animated series countdown way back

when we've done animated films, we've done animated

characters, we've done animated villains or just

villains in general, I think. We've done seven

overall countdowns. And this is going to be a

mini countdown. This is... The Geekcast Radio

Network and Tooncast have no affiliation with

what is about to be said in this podcast because

Tim is here to give us his personal... Top 10

animated list, whether it's series or film. So

I did not give him any real instructions on this.

I just said your top 10 animated series or film.

Cause I figured, you know, yeah. If I said top

10 animated series, then you would have to do

an honorable mention for the chipmunk movie that

you love so much. So yes this is Tim's list we're

gonna do this like we do all the countdowns i'm

sure there will be some strange voice in between

each one saying what the number is but let's

get to it alright mystical voice what number

are we at. Alright Tim what do you got so let

me just say this now my list is is constantly

changing. I'm kinda depends on what mood i'm

in for the day or month year whatever you know.

So, and of course, this is my own personal list,

so it's going to change all the time. And who

cares if it reflects what you guys think and

love? Because this is my list. So, what's funny

is I'm looking at my list right now and I'm even

debating on moving things around because the

mood that I was in an hour ago is maybe different

from what I'm feeling right now. Yes, well, you

can't change it now that you're on the recording.

There are no automatic instant changes. There

are no instant saves here. This isn't the voice.

Fine, let's go with it. Number 10. Ready for

number 10? I'm gonna go with 1992's. Batman the

Animated Series. Oh my God. Master Bruce, I...

Miss Gordon, I heard you've discovered our little

secret. Yes, I admit it. I am Batman. Number

10. Why does that get number 10 versus number

two? Well, I am far more an 80s kid than a 90s

kid, even though I was 12 years old when it came

out. Perfect age for Batman, the animated series.

I just hold more 80s cartoons near and dear to

my heart than 90s cartoons. OK, I mean. It's

hard for me to say this, but the X -Men anime

series isn't even making the top 10 because of

that reason. It's close. Trust me. It's almost

tied with Batman. Which killed... It's at 12,

folks. I haven't even seen his list, but I bet

it's at 12. It's 11. It's 11. They're almost

really tied, so I really can easily talk about

both of them, honestly. It's that hard of a decision

for me to make. Right so what is it about batman

that you did like you know? Batman and superman

of course being the first comic book characters.

I was ever introduced to When I was a kid I remember

I was laying on the floor doing something I think

I was drawing or something on the floor And my

dad came home from work, and you threw a comic

book at me. You know not a I didn't a evil mean

way And it was the comic book issue were superman

re was racing the flash. Yep. And that was like

my first introduction to any comic book ever.

And it was that and Batman that I really connected

to. So I'm more of a DC fan than Marvel. I still

am. Even, you know, Marvel movies are, you know,

better on going the way of the dodo at this point.

Yes. Yes, they are. But I don't know, Batman.

I just always loved not Necessarily batman no

fully but the villains the characters in the

anime series and the comic book are just iconic

and. The writing on that series was probably

unlike any animated series writing that we ever

had up to that point i think. Yeah, it was very

much, I'm gonna say this and I know every single

BTAS fan is gonna scream at me for saying this,

but it was very much the Looney Tunes of the

90s. And what I mean by that is when Bob Clampett

and Chuck Jones and Fritz Freling and all those

guys back in the 20s, 30s, 40s and 50s. When

they were making Looney Tunes, they weren't making

those for kids. They weren't aiming at kids.

And this is the reason why I'm saying it's the

Looney Tunes of the 90s is that Batman, the animated

series, was not, okay, yes, it has some kid stuff

in it, but it was for the people that created

it. It was for Bruce Timm. It was for Eric Rodovsky.

It was for Paul Dini. It was for James Tucker.

It was for... Andrea Romano, Kevin Conroy, Mark

Hamill, I mean Mark especially. I just saw, and

I don't know why people would do this, and I

understand, but I've heard your interview with

Andrea Romano. I've heard other people interview

her. I would love to interview her one of these

days, but I saw a news article and it's not in

my Google feed anymore. I saw some website reporting

that somebody on YouTube took the original tim

curry joker stuff and applied it to. Batman the

animated series joker because tim curry was the

first joke like before mark came on and i'm just

like look i get it we want to preserve history

and i'm all about nostalgia and all that and

everything else but i'm sorry. If the voice director

and everyone else said that it wasn't a good

fit for the character and mark hamill hit it

what tim curry will always be carnal rich looted

me yeah. Play that can be arranged like you know

but come on and what's funny about batman and

mysterious as well people nowadays are complaining

about major celebrities voicing characters now

on on for cartoons. But Batman the anime series

was doing it way before anybody else is doing

it. If you look at the cast, most of the voices

were done by movie or TV stars. Yep. So you can't

really say it's a modern thing to do. And in

fact, Disney was doing it way before the fact

of the 1940s. You know what I mean? So, you know,

it's always been a thing. So the Batman series

is easily one of my favorites. I can still go

down, you know, right now and just sit down and

enjoy it. Absolutely. All right, Mystical Voice,

give us the next number, please, because we all

know what it is, but nine. All right. Thank you,

Mystical Voice, from the great beyond or wherever

you are. All right, Tim, what's next on your

list? All right. So look at my list. Yeah, I

think I'm still in agreeance with myself from

an hour ago. I'm going to say the real Ghostbusters.

1986 oh interesting yeah i remember i remember

watching. I don't i don't know if it's a yeah

it was the first episode it was the the boogeyman

episode is not the first episode. I think so

i didn't for a bit but i think that's the first

i remember watching that for the very first time

in eighty six as a kid. Don't worry Wasn't scared

of it cuz you know us 80s kids. It took a lot

to get scared I think it took a guy with some

really really large metal fingernails to get

me scared and I'm not talking about Edward Scissorhands

folks So real Ghostbusters, I just love this

cartoon and I a lot of my list is actually gonna

be tied, you know kind of tied with the toy franchises

that That means with it, because they did that

in the eighties and I guess in the nineties,

you know, they get you hooked on the cartoon

and then they get you hooked even more by releasing

toys on the cartoon or releasing the toys first

and then the cartoon to get you hooked on the

cartoon. So it's a very common thing to do back

then. The very first episode aired September

13th, 1986. Ghosts are us. Slimer accidentally

releases three ghosts from the containment unit

and they set out. Okay, put the Ghostbusters

out of business by opening their own business.

Ghosts are us. What episode is the Boogeyman

one? Okay, let's see. I know that. Okay, so that's

all right. The Boogeyman, that aired October

18th, 1986. The guys are hired by a pair of young

siblings to rid them of the Boogeyman, an entity

Egon is quite familiar with. And what episode

was that? It's six or seven of the first season.

I'm not counting again. Yeah So it's early on

but that's the first episode I remember watching

of that Yeah, and of course at that point I was

already a huge fan of the movie who I mean who

wasn't when they're our age, you know Oh exactly.

Yeah, the voices, you know were were close enough

for me to enjoy and and the like I said the toys

are Easily in my top five favorite toy franchises

of all time Remember I had the Egon one the scare

what's I forgot fright feature Egon What you

pull down on his arm and his tie flips up and

his mouth, you know drops, you know Like a quarter

of an inch or whatever. I mean, I love Maurice

as as Egon I love Obviously Megatron as as Ray.

Yeah, and our field. Oh well, then Yeah, but

wow, that's interesting. Yes, Lorenzo music as

as dr. Peter Venkman for 78 episodes from 86

to 87 and then guess who took over? Oh, that

would have been Dave Coogee. That would have

been uncle freaking Joey. Yeah, I'm like, wait,

what? Yeah, yeah, I interviewed him about it.

Yeah, we talked about it. Yeah, so I don't know

if this is factual or not. So take this with

the grain of salt, but uh -huh, you know, they

I think it was even Bill Murray was like how

come you get a guy who sounds just like Egon,

but you get Garfield to voice me. What's up with

So it's always little I think that's true. I

think that was a true kind of state Yeah, I don't

know if that's the reason why they got rid of

Lorenzo music who I thought did a great job honestly

Because even Bill Murray replaced Lorenzo as

Garfield. So they have similar voices. Okay.

Well, I originally thought it was because he

passed away, but he did not die until August

4th of 2001. No, I think it's because they wanted

to go a different direction with it. Hmm. Well,

that's kind of sad. I know. I know. Cause he

did a great job. I'm sorry. The original cast

of The Real Ghostbusters was amazing. Yeah, absolutely.

I did not know this. Well, I guess I did. Wow.

Really? So, Arsenio Hall was Winston originally

from 86 to 87, and then from 88 to 91 for 49

episodes of this show, they brought in Blaster

from Tr - they brought in Bruster Jones. I'm

like - Oh, okay. I thought - Like, wait, what?

I thought Arsenio Hall lasted much longer than

that, but I guess not. Guess not, but I mean

buster Joe. I mean can I can't argue with the

master blaster man? Yeah Anything else you want

to say about the real Ghostbusters? I mean, it's

just a cartoon that still fully holds up today

Like one of my favorite episodes is when they

go to save Christmas Yeah, it's just a great

episode. I mean, I think it's on I think it's

on Netflix. Maybe even YouTube for free Cool.

So I definitely recommend that. Well, it wouldn't

be on Netflix for free because Netflix charges

even for ads, but yeah, yeah I'm sure we can

find it on YouTube or you know folks if you if

you turn off the dark I'm sure you can you know

find it somewhere in some dark corner of the

internet. All right Mystical countdown man. Let's

get the next number, please All right, Tim. What

do you got? All right, let's see. Do I want to

change it? Nope. I'm keeping it as it can't Take

backs damn it. Your list is your list. It's my

problem I do have to change it slightly because

I made two separate lists one for movies or cartoons

To the cartoon section at some point, so I'm

deciding to take off one or you know, whatever

I don't - I don't listen to rules very easily.

Apparently not. Nobody does. But anyway, go ahead,

number eight. Alright, I'm going with 1987's

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Teenage Mutant

Ninja Turtles Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Teenage

Mutant Ninja Turtles Heroes in a half shell Turtle

power They're the world's most fearsome fighting

team Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles When the evil

Shredder attacks, these turtle boys don't cut

him no slack! I'm surprised this isn't higher.

Yeah, you know, it's just a tough that my next

five favorites are hard for me to beat. You know

what I mean? Because I, I agree with you. I can

easily put this as number three. You know what

I mean? Easily as number three. I don't know

why it wouldn't be, but I just think it's not

as good in my opinion as my other top favorites,

but this series. Is iconic i mean you wouldn't

even though it started off as a comic book. Franchise

series whatever you wouldn't have none of us

kids none of us nobody under the age of twenty

probably new exact that that yeah no my first

experience was the cartoon show and you wouldn't

have turtles nowadays if it wasn't for that eighty

seven cartoon show. You know, you know, I mean

as great as the comic probably was it wouldn't

be around. I'm sorry It wouldn't have it wouldn't

have got the 1990. I mean it could have gotten

a movie I don't think it would have gotten the

budget that it got even though it was a small

budget for a movie. I Can't believe you're saying

this thing is how that was your favorite movie.

I know come on now The 1990 movie I still oh

my god, it's amazing Yeah, it's I mean Jim Henson's

Publish tree is and it's like the last thing

that he saw before he passed away It's just you

know, I don't know I just love that movie and

it's got a good mixture of both the comic book

series and the cartoon in it I think they did

a more remarkable job at that the only thing

and Again, this is your list and this is your

opinion whatever else but since we're having

a discussion about it I will say the only thing

is I actually just over this past holiday season

in 2021. I came into a little bit of extra cash

and I spent a little bit too much because it's

out of print, but I got the turtle van. I got

the complete series finally after years. After

years, I finally just said, fine. I've paid my

bills. Everything is taken care of for this month.

It's Christmas time. I want something for Christmas.

And I found it for I don't even, it was more

than MSRP, but it wasn't outrageous. It was like

somewhere between $100 and $200. So it's not

outrageous considering what the matrix set and

the GI Joe footlocker and all that stuff goes

for now. So the reason why I'm saying all of

this is because I started like, I literally right

now if I had nothing, I'm going to open it because

if I open it and close it again, my. my VLC media

player will pop up and I'll hear the truth. I

have disc six in my computer right now. And it's,

I'm in the middle of, I don't know, season two.

Well, it would be season two, season two or season

three because season one was only the first five

episodes. So my point in saying all of this is

I did not know that uncle Phil only did X number

of episodes. He was not always shredder. The

voice changes in this show annoy the hell out

of me. It has nothing to do with the voice actors.

Dorian Harewood was Shredder for four episodes

in 1989. I don't even know who his name is. Never

a bill martin i've never heard of bill martin

he played shredder for seven episodes from ninety

four to ninety six. That wasn't only that it

wasn't only that character that they did for

rafael i mean. Change that rafael of course but

it was throughout the whole series that kind

of did that i think it was just. They had to

film with who they had for that moment i guess.

I guess yeah i don't know but like. I completely

forgot that there are certain episodes in season

two that I'm like, this happened this early,

like the leatherhead episode and there's another

episode. One of the alien crying episode, one

of the Dimension X, I'm like, really? They did

the dimension in season two. Like I expect that

to be like season five. Three or four or five

or something like that. So anyway, I'm sorry.

This is your. No, it's fine. It's great that

we have a conversation about it. I know that

you talk about it more. I'm thinking why it's

not closer to number one on my list is the fact

that I do feel the show kind of went down the

hill, especially the last couple of seasons of

it. You know, if I don't remember if I've even

watched the last season of it, to be honest.

I. No, I did not. I know by, so like I said,

the first five episodes, Hot Rotting Teenagers

from Dimension X and The Case of the Killer Pizzas

are, so the first five episodes are what they

are, and they are the first five -parter, and

they're the origin of whatever else, and I always

remembered those. hot running teenagers from

dimension X and case of the killer pizza sewer

pizza animals or whatever the pizza monsters.

Those were BK VHS tapes that I had. I have those.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So and the only other one I

remember is and I don't know why I remember this

because I can't stand her character. The tail

of the 50 foot Irma. Oh God, that was a bad one.

That was a Know God she was annoying. I do give

you that There are only out of the entire voice

cast I want to say Yes, only two of the actual

turtles are in the voice actors are in all 193

episodes and that is Leonardo and Michael and

Michelangelo. Yeah. Yep Townsend Coleman and

Cam Clark. Yeah, I mean whom you've Head on your

show. Not, I don't know. I haven't had cam on

yet. No. Really? I'm going to beat you to that.

I'm going to send him an email right as soon

as we're done with this. No, I don't. Yeah. I

keep meaning to reach out to him, but no, I haven't

had him on. But, but Michelangelo, dude, that

was my favorite. One of my favorite interviews

I've done. Yeah. I love that guy. He should be

kind of talking about interviews I've done with

each pick that I kind of do, huh? Maybe but we

can always save that for the next week, too.

So as well as true as well All right, we are

up to the next number Mysterious voice. Let's

take it away All right. So yeah, let's do this

one 1991 introduced one of my favorite characters

of all time. The reason why it's not higher on

my list is because It just needed to last longer,

I think. So the show I'm talking about... Are

we getting dangerous? We are definitely getting

very dangerous right now. We're talking about

Darkwing Duck. Of course. I hate you Disney Plus.

I love you Disney Plus, but I hate you Disney

Plus. So when Disney Plus debuted, I'm sorry

to steal your thunder, but... When Disney Plus

debuted and they're like, look, we have all this

stuff. I immediately went to look at Darkwing

and I'm like, why is the Terrace Bulba two -parter

not the first two episodes? What did you do?

I do that on the DVD release too. I don't know

why they... Really? Yes. And they did the same

thing with DuckTales DVD release. They didn't

make it part. They made it on the second disc.

I was like, why? It makes no sense. This is the

first episode. It introduces everything. Yeah,

I don't know why they do that. That makes no

sense whatsoever. No, it doesn't. But Darkwing

Duck, oh god, this show, just amazing. Same reason

why I like Batman the animated series. The characters

are just amazing. All the side characters. Darkwing

is just great. I mean, it's supposed to be like

a Batman type of a series and it was perfect.

And it just kind of introduced me to Jim Cummings,

who already knew through, you know, like Winnie

the Pooh and Tigger and things that he's done

at the time. But he really that's when he found

his his voice. That's when you found his true

character, his iconic character that he created,

you know? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And this show,

man, it is so good. Yeah, yeah. It's so good,

especially once they add Magicka, or not Magicka,

Morgana. Because hello, it's a play on Morgan

or Morgana. Look at whichever version of the

Arthurian legend you want to. Her name is always

different, but it's a version of Lefay sort of.

And yeah. And then you have... the villains in

this show. And I'm like, how in the same hell

is sideswipe swoop? Who else do you play sideswipe

swoop? I'm sure he played one of the aerial,

but Michael freaking Bell as Quacker Jack steals

the show. I know. Cracker Jack is easily one

of the best characters on there. And part of

one of my part of my favorite episode of all

time, which is oh, oh, oh, what's the name of

the episode? with Dark Warrior Duck. Oh, I'm

drawing a blank. Yeah, time and punishment, time

and punishment. OK, that's been my favorite episode

since it aired is the where they go to like alternate,

you know, yeah, different timeline. And he's

Dark Warrior Duck instead of Darkwing Duck. Just

love it. Oh, sorry. We make it a point never

to get involved. I am the terror that hunts in

the night! What? I am the jackal that gnaws at

your bones! I'm not finished! I am Dart Warrior

Duck! Maybe a year in the pen will teach you

to use a crosswalk! Jaywalker... Yeah, this show,

man, only got three seasons. It deserved 10.

And it only ran from 91 and 92, even though it

got three seasons, only on the air for over a

year. Yeah. It's hard. It's hard to realize that

because, you know, it wasn't on to say once a

week is on more than once a week. Yeah, well,

it was. I mean, let's see. Yeah, it was daily.

It was five days a week. Yeah. I think maybe

not in the let's see. Maybe not in the dark.

But definitely after season two, it was when

it was part of the Disney afternoon. Yeah, starting

in. Well, yeah, starting with get antsy September

11th, 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th. OK, so, yeah. So

whatever days of the week. 10th through the 13th

were, it was daily. Yeah. At first in 91, and

then lately, you said obviously by the time we

got to season two, it really was. Yeah. Dark

warrior? Oh, perfect. Gone five minutes and my

own daughter forgets my name. Just like she forgot

she was supposed to stay in the rat catcher.

Lunch pad! Don't change the subject! I have had

it with you, young lady! You are grounded for

a month! No problem, Dad! That kind of justice

I can handle! Now, don't argue with me! I...

Yeah, and I remember... No, they went weekly.

Oh, wow, Spice Season 2? They stopped doing daily.

They went weekly. Interesting. Yeah. See, I don't

remember. That's... Again, it's IMDB folks. They

could be wrong, but I don't think they would

be. And maybe we're also confusing it with reruns.

Maybe they played reruns daily and then putting

a new one once a week, you know? Well, I mean,

like I said, I'm looking at the actual episode

synopsises here. And like I said, I'm seeing

things that like, uh, revolution in home appliances,

September 23rd, 1991 trading faces, September

24th. hush hush sweet charlatan 25th 26 27th

and then goes to you sweat your life was september

30th so yeah it was daily the first season the

first year and then they went weekly because

i i think by that time disney afternoon and more

shows to throw in there yeah you didn't need

five days of dark wing you had dark wing and

and duck tails and tailspin and and bonkers and

I don't think I don't think DuckTales and Darkwing

Duck ever ran the same time. I think DuckTales

ended right before Darkwing started, I think.

Oh, right. 87 to yeah. Hmm. Interesting. Yeah,

probably. Yeah. So anyways, Darkwing Duck, I

just meant the voices and the characters are

just iconic. And I've had a handful of the voice

actors on my show. You've had them all on your

show. Don't. Don't sugarcoat this one. Come on

now. Yeah, like since it's one of my favorite

shows, I think I try to get pretty much everybody

who I could get on the show. I was like, when

I was going back listening to episodes, I was

like, I clicked on one episode that had nothing

to do with Darkwing Duck. Next thing I know,

like here, would you like the three episodes

of Terry McGovern as Launchpad? Okay, I will

listen to Launchpad stories eventually. Thank

you. That was one of my he is in my top five

favorite interviews, honestly Oh, absolutely.

He's awesome. I would definitely highly recommend

he's hilarious. He caught me Okay, so I this

is a little behind -the -scenes thing. I don't

talk about Michael I like to have a little drink

when I interview people. All right, it's all

right. I'm an adult. I'm 42 years old I can do

that, but I don't announce it on my show because

I know kids under the age Do listen to it. So

it's very family -friendly hundred percent family

-friendly But I tend to have a drink, and his

interview was one of the first ones I did where

it was full of the video. He can see me, I can

see him. And he's like, what are you drinking

there? And I was like, it's water. He's like,

sure, it's water. It wasn't water. Yeah, yeah.

It was water with a Jolly Rancher in it. That's

what it was. It was Zima and Jolly Rancher. Oh,

God. That's so 90s folks. Zima and Jolly Ranchers.

Zima was my first ever drink I ever drank. Oh

lord. Yeah. And then once again, I had it again

in 2002. Made me sick off of the sugar alone.

Yeah, that'll do that. And I just want to let

everyone know this is not necessarily because

we say S D F H whatever the hell. See, right

there, whatever. I always tag my podcast explicit

because of the N -U -N do's and the N -U -N don'ts.

There you go. Please folks, don't drink. If you

can help it, don't drink. But we're not saying

all of those curse words like every other word.

It's not like um. Um. Um. My next um. Where the

hell um are we um? All right, Mystical Voice,

what's the next number? Number six. Here we go.

All right, you ready? Now, this is where I kind

of could really anger people, I think. Uh -oh.

Because I'm putting this show as number six,

and I think a lot of people, especially our age,

might have this as number one. OK. 1984's Transformers.

At number six, I can... I can understand and

accept that. I don't completely hate it. And

honestly, I don't even know if I was forced into

making a top 10 list of animated series and films.

Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Fine. What's your... You'll

allow it then. Okay, thank you. Well, I mean,

it's your list. This is your episode. I can't

not allow it. musical sonic boom good old jazz

all right so transformers how much of a transformers

kid were you i mean the fact that it's number

six i mean that's a lot because i watched almost

every cartoon you can think of as a kid between

the early 80s and mid 90s see that's kind of

a misconception with people that listen to my

show i get a lot of people talking about new

cartoons stuff after you know after i was an

adult I stopped watching cartoons since like

97, maybe even 96. You know what I mean? Okay.

And I don't feel bad saying that. I just grew

up at that time. I was 16, 17 years old. So people

are like, oh, what about Adventure Time? What

about SpongeBob? I was like, no, I only watched

SpongeBob to get ready for my interview with,

you know, with SpongeBob himself. You know or

my kids watch it so i'm familiar with it hello

discerning podcast listeners this is tom kenney

and you are listening to the cast radio network

yeah so anyways i forget why i went to that rant

but well because people listen to your show assume

you watched cartoon yeah if you're interviewing

tom kenney they assume you've seen every single

episode of spongebob interview tom because i

was a huge rock goes modern world and yes. I

thought you were made of sterner stuff. So Transformers.

Yeah, transfer infamous, infamous series. Transformers

iconic. Another show that who knew that it would

still be around and as popular as maybe even

ever nowadays with the movies and multiple. You

know different cartoon series which i haven't

watched because like i said i don't watch modern

cartoons but. Okay so what is it about the classic

generation one cartoon that you like you know

it was again this is another show that tied along

with a great toy franchise. I love playing with

the kid i don't remember having a lot of them

as a kid. But i had a good enough good enough

of them to really enjoy them and really get.

Involved in the cartoon series. I mean a ton

of action, you know from episode one action everywhere

and you know the good the bad which I always

lean towards the Decepticon side because I loved

sound wave and and Who else was my favorite?

Sound wave was pretty much my my all -time favorite

Character I think on the show. I Don't know.

Why is it cuz I like I love cassettes maybe That

could be it. No, it seems to be a recurring theme

in my branding to have a cassette and maybe Soundwave

could be why. I'm just now realizing that. Huh,

interesting. Disclosure averted. Continue observation.

This is like a little, you're like my psychiatrist,

I'm laying on the couch and I love cassettes.

That's right. But the show is just iconic. But

my, my complaint is there was too many characters

to keep track of. You know what I mean? Well,

they added more characters and more characters

and more, like the first season is only 16 episodes.

The second season is 49 episodes. And then season

three was, I mean, there, there are only. I should

know this 98 there are only 98 episodes total.

So 1649 and then season three, whatever number

that is. And then season four, technically, but

season four was just the rebirth three parter.

So yeah, you know. Yep. And then the movie. I

love the movie, too. Yeah, the movie. Yep. I

don't I don't know if I cried or not, but I'm

sure I did. I don't know. I didn't really become

a sensitive person until I became a parent. Oh,

I don't know. Wow. Alrighty then, folks. You

heard it here first, folks. This is the dark

side of Tim Nydel. And may not have cried when

Optimus died. Well, at least you're not hiding

in your closet. Yeah. Refusing to come out for

a week and a half. And use the power of the Matrix.

to light our darkest hour. Yes, I cried as a

kid in 1987 or 88 or whenever it was because

I didn't get to go to the theater to see it.

I saw it on VHS from some video rental store

later. And yes, I cried, but Forty -something

years later, I'm like, you know, he's gonna sit

there and play basketball with them, and while

Megatron's destroying it, no, please, please,

people, let Hot Rod become Rodimus Prime and

be the true leader of the Autobots. Exactly.

Alright. Yeah, I don't know if I cried or not.

I mean, I probably did. I don't remember. I don't

know. I can't remember yesterday, let alone 40

years ago, half the time. Yeah, who knows? I

mean, I cried over some things, especially now.

You know, I watched Filled with Dreams, now I

cry. I cry at Filled with Dreams. I'm proud to

admit it. What number were we at? We're up to

number whatever this person's gonna say, but

I think it is number five Five. All right, man.

I'm looking at my movie movie list I really need

to start getting movies into there before I have

no space which I already know right now I have

no space to put two more movies into there. So

I might have to squeeze Illegally another movie

in there so I can talk about chipmunk adventure.

I'm gonna do that now chipmunk. Okay Frankly,

Alvin, what are you doing here? We're on our

way to Istanbul. What are you doing here? We're

on our way to Cairo. Have you guys had any trouble

along the way? Well, there was this guy... We've

had nothing but smooth sailing. And you? Well,

actually, I get the feeling... It's been a piece

of cake! The only problem we have is crowd control!

We're the hardest act in rock and roll! But you

don't have that problem, do you? No! Sure we

do! No, you don't! Alright, Mr. Popularity! How

much you wanna bet? We can outrock and roll you!

Yeah, I mean it's hard to say it's better than

transformers for me it is I remember so typical

adventure came out in 1987. I would have been

seven you would have been seven as well Um, I

remember is another rental. We didn't, we didn't

have the movies quite a bit in theater, but this

is a rental probably because my parents didn't

want to go sit with me to watch it. And I just

was addicted to this movie. I think I had the

flu when they rented it. So I was homesick and

I remember watching it like three to four times

in a couple of days. Cause I was home from school.

And no, that's right. No, I didn't have flu.

I had if in taigo or taigo Yeah, whatever. Okay,

you had some sort of disease these words contagious.

So I couldn't go to school and they rented chipmunk

adventure and so I already loved Alvin and the

chipmunks the cartoon series from the 80s are

you love that one? I mean, it's There should

have been my top ten less than I'm thinking about

it. But at least I'm talking about the movie,

right? Yeah And this series, the music is iconic

except for that one stupid song, the getting

lucky song, which if you listen to my interview,

my second to last interview that I did, we talked

about that pretty detailed why it's in there.

It's just iconic. It kind of reminded me kind

of like a Disney movie. And we found out during

my interview why, because I had some of the former

Disney animators animating. Characters are amazing

songs are amazing. I love miss miller as a. So

if you watch the movie. So there's a part where

she's on the phone with with Dave or she thinks

it's Dave that's really your recording Alvin

did of Dave and different segments you know him

saying things to splice together what they want

him to say and. There's a part where sit. Dave

calls back later and says, is Alvin available?

And she says, available for what? OK, for the

past 20 years or more, every time he says available,

I say available. Yeah, every time somebody says

it. So this movie, I don't know. It's just usually

one of my favorites. I just love this movie.

I forgot Ross was all three. Yeah. He's Dave

Alvin and Simon and then Janice is Theodore Theodore

and along with her Brittany Jeanette and Eleanor

Yeah, yeah, Janice is the interview that I didn't

Yeah interview that I've been trying to get since

day one honestly still for over ten years trying

to get her on the show And look at it this way,

it took you to shut the show down for a couple

of months to finally get her. You're like, episode

200, I've peaked, folks. I'm going to go do other

stuff two weeks later. Here's 201 and here's

no blank. I needed a mental break. I'm surprised

you didn't get them both on her and Ross together.

Well, then off the record. So off the record.

OK, OK, OK. Yeah, let's go with that one. 1983's

He -Man and the Masters of the Universe. What

is it about that show that puts it at number

four? I'm trying to think I'm trying to remember

if I think I think this was the first cartoon

I ever Remember watching as a kid ever in my

life So it had that impact on me being the first

cartoon ever watched and I remember being the

first cartoon ever watched and I had a couple

of the toys later on in the series not in the

beginning but my brother's good friend so my

brother's two years older than me. So you would

have been five at the time i think when the show

came out but the toys came first. And i think

one of my brother's friends had a ton of the

human toys. At times star wars or twos two. And

we just played with them a lot so this will be

an instance where i remember the toys. First,

of course, like a lot of kids did because it

was introduced first to promote the cartoon series

later down the road. And I mean, it's cheesy.

It's got orco. It's got a, it's got a, it's got

a obvious he -man, you know, in Prince Adam.

I don't know how I can't see that. If you make

fun of Clark Kent and his, you know, hiding with

the glasses and hair all styled and everything.

I mean just cause he meant worse pink and. That's

pretty much it. Well I mean technically Prince

Adam wears pink purple and white and he man wears

nothing you see muscles but you know that yeah

too much. But but yeah I don't know it's a cheesy

cartoon is still is but I just hold this one

dear to my heart just because you know we have

that learning thing at the end of every episode.

very much like G .I. Joe did. And as much hate

as Orko gets, I still like Orko. I don't care

what people say. He's cute. You know, as a kid,

I thought he was funny. I think I remember having

a lunch pail of He -Man as a kid. I don't remember

having He -Man lunch boxes. I remember having

Transformers lunch boxes and Knight Rider lunch

boxes and elf lunch boxes. I don't think I ever

had a He -Man one, but that would be interesting

nowadays. Yeah, and there's a really nice metal

one they had back then. I can kind of envision

it. Metal, I think it was like a solid blue.

Had Skeletor on one side. I think it had He -Man

on the other side. Just iconic when I'm trying

to envision it, at least in my mind. But I mean,

it's not a perfect cartoon. I can't say I can't

say it's honestly better than my top ten list

But for me it is because it's just holds so much

memories of watching it with my brother Right.

Absolutely. So behind the scenes for you is that

in 2011 slash 2012 Optimus solo and I started

the powers of gray skull series only on the geek

cast radio network. We were going to go through

Everything that Mattel or whomever has ever done

with animation with He -Man. So we've reviewed

every single one of these 130 episodes, the 93

episodes of She -Ra, the god knows how many horrible

numbers of new events. Oh, god. I never watched

that one. I never watched that one. Don't. Don't.

Don't. Stop. Don't. And no. Don't. Don't. Don't.

I won't. You don't? No. 2002, which was really,

really good. It was basically an updated version

of this, but they took it in a different... It

only has 39 episodes, sadly. It was supposed

to get a season three, but it didn't. Cartoon

Network is Cartoon Network and they do stupid

shit. And then there's the current crop of stuff

between She -Ra and the Princesses of Power on

Netflix and He -Man and the... of the not the

CGI he man and the Masters the universe plus

the I know of the missiles gonna listen to this

and he's gonna be like, why are you being so

nice? I'm sorry. I don't like Kevin Smith anymore.

Kevin Smith has smoked way too much goddamn weed.

And he's turned into an idiot. I don't know what

the fact is. I know ever since he started smoking

pot, he just lost his right abilities. Have you

watched his? No, I see. You have not watched

it. I understand you want to, and I don't ever

want to push somebody off of trying something

other than new adventures. New adventures is

not worth your time. But there's a few things

that are very Kevin Smith about the He -Man show.

And they are very in you and don't know what

I mean. It's close. It's a very like half, half

of a second away of something, but it doesn't

that, but just the, just the inference. And I

get it. That, that show is for us, but the way

I, the way I will say about the current crop

of human stuff for what you're saying the original

filmation show was to you and what it was to

me and what it was to everybody else. Imagine

the feelings we had 40 years ago to what kids

may be watching now with the CGI version. I don't

care what any adult male or female says about

the designs of the show. That's fine. We don't

all have to agree on the design of something.

I find it a little weird, but I'm getting used

to it. But the stories in the CGI version on

Netflix, are what kids today should be growing

up on the lessons that are in that show. They

don't have a specific, I don't think they have

a specific after show lesson like we did in Lou

Shimer days, but basically take Filmation He

-Man and take the CGI He -Man. They're the same

jumping on point for a... Boy child between the

ages of five and eight or five and ten or five

and twelve right now in this day and age So I've

we have we've gone through all of this and oh

my god so many episodes of Filmation he meant

like the star child is an episode. I will never

watch again. Oh my god half of the kid characters

in this show But yeah, folks, we have over a

hundred and thirty episodes of the podcast, the

Grayskull series. You can listen to all of that

over there. All right. Number three, sir. We're

in the top three. What do you got the top three?

I don't think ever really changes. So I'm very

content with what I'm about to say, but I do

need to do one honorable mention in a movie that

it needs to be in here somewhere. I can do that

now. This is the honorable mention before we're

done with the list. Can we do that? Yeah. Okay,

I got it. I got to talk about Pinocchio the original

1940 Pinocchio is my favorite Disney movie and

it's my favorite walk It's just amazing, dude.

The animation is just epic The animation is amazing,

but they got eaten by a whale. It's part of the

series man. You just got to go with it Happened

to that movie a lot of weird things. He's got

to be long for the ride Technical reasons, it's

my favorite Disney movie. Okay, here's your honorable

mention. What is your number three? Number three.

So this one had a couple actually, so you could

say it started in 83 or 84, but that was the

miniseries. 1985's G .I. Joe. G .I. Joe is there!

It's G .I. Joe against the culprit of the enemy

Fighting to save the day He never gives up, he's

always there Fighting for freedom over land and

air! G .I. Joe! G .I. Joe is there! G .I. Joe

is the code name for America's daring, highly

trained special mission force. Its purpose? To

defend human freedom against Cobra, a ruthless

terrorist organization determined to rule the

world. He never gives up. He'll stay till the

fight's won. G .I. Joe will dare. G .I. Joe!

Yeah, people think it's weird that I like this

more than transformers I I mean I kind of get

it because I mean for me I had a cheer, you know

if you put you know chocolate and Whatever on

the other side of the choice. I'm probably gonna

pick chocolate half the time Yeah, so that's

the thing with me and transformers in GI Joe.

Yes, I remember GI Joe, but I Don't have as much

of a memory like G1 I have it ingrained in my

brain. Yeah, yeah Joe. I don't have ingrained

in my another way around another way around I

think it's because the characters for me as a

kid stood out more in GI Joe You know, they had

a distinct the way they looked talked, you know

shipwreck was my favorite character on the show

along with Duke was my No, Flint would have my

second favorite and then maybe Duke my third

favorite But I don't know each character just

seemed different and i was able to notice that

as a five -year -old kid you know transformers

it got a little complicated to know who is who

at certain moments when they're you know fighting

or going pretty fast but i just have a more of

a connection and this also goes back to the toy

line of GI Joe and i think this would have been

the toy franchise i had the most toys of I think

I had like 20 or more characters and then vehicles

on top of that. So my brother and I had a ton

of GI Joe toys. I remember the first ones I got,

my dad kind of did the same thing. He came back

from work and he had a box of like 10 or more

GI Joe's he got from a yard sale. And that's

our introduction to the toy line. And I think

it was around the same time the animated series

started because we were actually watching the

animated series at that time too. So we already

loved the animated series. And I don't know,

you know, I've always been, my dad was big on

war movies when I was a kid and it reminded me

of a giant, you know, Western war movie as a

cartoon series. Yeah, I mean, the thing with

G .I. Joe is because it's military characters,

like it's, you know, G .I. Joe, you know, join

the army, do this, do that, whatever it is, you

know, and then it's, you know, them versus Cobra

and, you know. Yeah. And, you know, everybody

like, look, folks, 40 years ago in the eighties.

Half of our parents wanted us to grow up to be

a lawyer, a doctor. A cop. A police officer,

a fireman, an EMT, whatever, or go into the military.

Yeah. And that's where G .I. Joe kind of came

in. That's why G .I. Joe had to have the, just

like every other A's cartoon, had to have the

messages. At the end and all that I believe that

now, you know, you know loaning. Yeah, because

knowing is half the battle The other half is

red laser and blue laser. Thank you very much.

Yes, it is. I'll be here all week I remember

so the toys I remember my brother and I we never

really had any of the the bases as toys You know,

we had some of the vehicles not much mainly just

characters. So we used to take our multi -story

cat house And that was the Cobra commander's,

you know, base. And I remember that one time

we found a, I don't know what kind of caterpillar

it was, but one of the hairy ones. We put that

in the cat house and that was like a monster

attacking the G .I. Joe's. Yeah, just like a

lot of memories with this show. Absolutely, absolutely.

We, you and I both have interviewed barbecue.

Yeah, yeah. Good old Lauren Lester. I did not

know because I did not watch this show that much

I did not know he was barbecue and I love the

fact that he's barbecue and I love the fact that

he gave barbecue a New England accent Yes, that

is a great direction that it took yeah, there's

a lot of voice actors that were so good in the

show even you know, one timers kind of or Couple

episodes, you know It's a shame that barbecue

is only in nine episodes. Yeah. It's funny to

think a lot of iconic characters from G .I. Joe

are only in some of them are only in, you know,

five or 10 episodes. You know, absolutely. And

of course, you got, I mean, don't get me wrong,

I love all the voice actors, but you got. And

I didn't know what his name was, but that narrator,

Jackson Beck, oh my God. Like, I haven't looked

at G .I. Joe's stuff in years. Like, I haven't.

Oh, he died in 2004. Damn. But I mean, you hear

that narrator's voice and you're like, you're

standing, you're easily standing at attention.

For sure. For sure. No, I completely agree. And

then when Sergeant Slaughter got introduced.

So here's a little behind the scenes thing that

people might not know is they, they wanted to

get Rambo as a character. They couldn't do it.

They couldn't do it. They couldn't do it. No.

So they got Sergeant Slaughter instead. Yep.

And as of this recording, it's, it's out now.

You can, I think get it at GameStop or maybe

as of this recording, maybe it's still on pre

-order at GameStop. I don't know if you're into

Funko pops at all, but there already was a WWE

version of Sergeant Slaughter. They are now releasing

with a GI Joe box, a GI Joe accurate black shirt,

Funko pop Sergeant Slaughter. Yeah, as a kid,

I loved wrestling back then too, you know, so

it was a good it was a good addition Absolutely

All right. What is your next number? Mr. Mysterious

voice to number two. All right Number two. Okay.

So let me just say my number one number two sometimes

go back and forth or they're sometimes tied But

today, okay, I'm on the side of this being as

my number two I'm going all the way back to 1985

to talk about Thundercats. Thundercats are loose.

Because that show man, I've never forgotten about

the undercats. I just adore this show. I Mean,

I don't know people make fun of it. People say

it's cheesier than he man, which I don't think

it is No, I can safely say it is not because

of the simple fact that You didn't have Lionel

and Willa making all kinds of weird babies and

having all kinds of weird thunder children. Like

look, Wile E. Kitt and Wile E. Katt are about

as close to bad. Look, do me a favor, listen

to us. I'm sitting here pimping out my own show,

but Powers of Grayskull series, if you don't

want to go back and watch through all 130 episodes

of He -Man, Go back and listen to some of the

episodes where we talk about the kids in that

show. Oh, Cousin Jeremy. Cousin fucking Jeremy.

I am sorry. This is nice. What's the podcast,

folks? Sorry about your luck. Cousin fucking

Jeremy. I wanted to kill that kid. I'm not a

violent person, but that kid, that kid on that

cartoon, I wanted to just shove him right off

a snake mountain. Oh my God. Just drowned him

in the waterfall behind the snake's head. Oh

God, so yeah, what? Yeah, thunder cats. Go ahead.

Thunder. Another one. So this will be my second

series. I remember watching this kid, but my

first series, I remember kind of trying to duplicate

myself. I pretended I was lying. I was a kid.

I remember doing that. Um, remember Lincoln logs?

Oh yeah. So the roof piece, the long, you know,

piece of wood, I think it was even an orange

piece of wood. Maybe, maybe the green one. I

don't remember. But I drew the Thundercats symbol

on it and I used to run around the house. Thundercats

Ho, Thundercats Ho. My mom even remembers that.

She talked about that a couple of years ago and

she hardly remembers anything from the 80s. So

the fact that she remembers that, you know, means

I did it quite a bit. And I don't know, there's

these the characters again stand out, I think.

And the story, at least for the first couple

of seasons, I do admit it went downhill for the

last season. mainly because they introduced too

many Snarfs. Even though I love Snarf. People

make fun of Snarf too. I love Snarf. He's a great

character. But when you introduce a planet of

Snarfs, it's not good. I didn't mind nephew Snarfer.

Uncle, Snarf. I didn't mind that. That was fine.

But yeah, once you introduce the whole planet,

that was too much. Too much. The first season,

you can't beat the first season. But the second

season introduces a lot of great characters that

Should have been in the first season to make

it even better. I think honestly But Mamra as

a villain, I think scared the crap out of me

as a kid the crap out of all of us like yeah,

but and Lionel I of course I have Larry Kenya

the voice of Lionel. He's the voice of my podcast

He has done the introduction to my podcast since

day one. I Think we've gone through a couple

different versions of it. He recorded one version

The first year and then another one maybe three

to four years later I forget maybe there's been

three of them. I don't remember Yeah, there's

been at least three or four and there have been

a couple where he like I listened to one recently

whichever one it was today that I listened to

Where it was a completely different intro. It

was more of a narrator voice. It was not Larry

Kenny It was somebody else that one probably

would it probably would have tied along with

a Disney one or something is probably the Disney

and the Anyway, probably so there's a boy Episodes

of where I have a different voice introducing

it. But anyways Larry Kenny So I had him do the

show that the intro I guess we'll talk about

it more next week, too But yeah, he's been the

voice of the interest since day one and you know

It's a huge honor to get him to do that. Oh,

and I mean he sounds like Lionel It's great to

listen to it kind of pumped me up when I hear

it Yeah, that's the that's the funny thing a

lot of some of these voice actors don't net like

Larry Kenny, yeah, and Michael Bell and You know,

those are the two that I can Dan Gilvazan You

know not everyone can be a Mel blank or Frank

Welker where they have a thousand different and

that's okay because you know you pick up the

phone and all of a sudden or you pick up the

Skype call or you figure out, you know how to

string two cans between Montana and California

or whatever but like You pick up the thing and

it's like, I know what their characters sound

like. Because for me, and I say this in almost

every podcast I do, as kids, for us, it wasn't

about the person doing the voice. It was about

the voice itself and the character, the fiction.

We never, up until the internet came along, we

didn't not care. But as children, of the 80s,

we were more interested in the fictional world

because the reality for us was, at least for

me personally in Massachusetts, in 86, 87, 88,

89, when I was in elementary school, it was like,

okay, you get up at 5 .45, 6 a .m., you get a

shower. If you didn't shower the night before,

you get breakfast. Half the time I was on the

bus by 6 .45, so most of that morning cartoon

stuff. I barely got kind of thing, but it was

like, you know, you, you, you get up early in

the morning, you go to school for eight, nine

hours, but what the hell it is, you get home.

Maybe you can watch a couple of cartoons, work

on part of your homework, get to dinner, work

on the rest of your homework, and then you can

watch, you know, Jeopardy! and Wheel of Fortune.

Exactly. No, that was, that was the eighties

in a nutshell right there. Yep. Pretty much.

You pretty much named it, but yeah, Thundercats.

I, I don't know. I mean. I can understand why

people don't hold it as high as I do because

I just was in the right age group and just I

think because I currently don't have my Hulu

subscription active, but I think they are still

on Hulu. And up to season three, there were several

episodes here and there. Where it was iffy, but

up to season three, they were really, really

solid. It's strong. The storytelling is strong,

storytelling is strong, and a lot of continued

storylines, which weren't necessarily done a

lot in the 80s. No. I don't think He -Man ever

did it. I don't think, you know, Transformers,

of course, did it. He -Man, I believe, has...

Out of 130 episodes, I think they have two, four

total episodes, two separate two -parters. Yeah.

House of Chikoti was a two -parter, and there

was something else that was a two -parter, but

yeah, generally. Burning Cats was pretty much

a continuous show. Every now and then, it would

introduce a new character that had its own episode,

but a lot of it was a continued storyline, which

I loved. Yeah, absolutely. All right drum roll,

please I will insert a drum roll around here

somewhere folks Number one sir. What do you got?

Can I just talk quickly very quickly honorable?

Very I won't talk about him another one. It's

one of this honorable mentions. Just list them

I'm just go real quick Muppet babies. Love it.

Yep. Tiny tune adventures Easily it was at the

time one of my favorite 90s cartoons of all time

Yep, Heathcliff and the cat of that cats doesn't

get enough love in my book. Love that cartoon

series mainly the cat of that cats Chippendale

rescue Rangers iconic tailspin amazing, of course

x -men and Garfield and friends those all deserve

to be in my list somewhere But number one, all

right, you ready? Yep Back in 1987, we were introduced

to this amazing cartoon, and that cartoon is

DuckTales. Really? Why is that really? Wow. Blow

me bad pipes! He's a genie! Does his mother know

about this? We were gonna tell you, Uncle Scrooge.

Someday. Where'd he come from? Um, remember my

teapot? Heavenly header! The genie in the magic

lamp! The f - No, it's been my favorite since

I was a kid. Since 87, it was my favorite card.

So 85 to 87, it would have been Thundercats was

my go -to as number one. Octopus became my number

one 87. I just, I just remember going to school

and just talking about the episode from the day

before, like in detail and just like laughing

at it and just mimicking it, copying some of

the stuff that Huey Dewey, Louie and even Bubba

Duck did. Bubba Duck. He gets hate. I love Bubba

Duck. He gets hate. But DuckTales, I remember

vividly the pilot episodes. the search for the

golden the Golden lamp. No, not the lamp of the

coins golden. Oh Okay. Yeah. Yeah And it actually

even on Etsy. I found somebody who made a replica

of the horn. I have it. It's so cool. Oh, wow.

Love it But that is awesome. I think I've said

it before somewhere in the podcast. I think it's

when I interviewed. Um, oh The writer of the

pilot episode. What's his name? He also wrote

the goofy movie Oh, I know who you're talking

about. I can't. Anyways, I told him I think this

is a perfect pilot episode. No, it's a. In four

separate episodes, they branched out of four

separate episodes and it. Also gave me my so

Jim Cummings has done amazing voices since he's

been doing voice acting, but I think my favorite

voice of his is El Capitan from DuckTales. from

the past. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. You can hear Jim Cummings

voice in almost everything he does. You know

what I mean? He kind of pointed out. But he just

has that voice that is like, again, it's one

of those like he doesn't need to put on a voice

because, you know, his voice is more than enough.

He can modulate it. He can change it. He can

do whatever. But yeah, you don't need to know.

But go listen to El Capitan. You won't hear Jim

Cummings. I didn't even know it was Jim Cummings

up until maybe 10 years ago. Such a great character.

I wish they brought back later in the series.

But at least if you do anything, go watch those

pilot episodes. The first four episodes. Amazing,

amazing episodes. Jim Magan, Bruce Talkington

or Mark Zazlov. Jim Magon. That's who it was.

OK. Yeah. Cool. Cool. Yeah. He, he was a co -writer

of those. And, uh, it just, I know this show

reminds me of Indiana Jones. Maybe that's why

I loved it so much as a kid, you know, a different

adventure, almost every episode, go and look

for some treasure. You know, they run into some

natives or ghosts. I guess it kind of had a Scooby

Doo element to it as well. You know, when it

comes to the ghosts and you know, people, they

unmask at the end of some of the episodes and.

Introduce us to Launchpad McQuack. I think easily

one of the best characters from the 80s and 90s

Mm -hmm. I think he did better with Darkwing

than he I do I do and I think I think I kind

of even told him that in the interview with that

I do prefer the Darkwing Launchpad because he

had more of a Storyline, I guess I don't know

you see more of a character instead of a side

character, you know, yeah, it's like I can definitely

agree with that But yeah Ducktales 87 great show

and it's you know We're to say that I can call

one of the main cast members one of my close

friends Brian Cummings who does doofus on the

show So it's fun to say that he's a good friend

of mine Very cool. Very cool. Yeah Ducktales.

I I Remember this but I don't like I I need to

go back And and rewatch it because season the

first season is unbeatable Unbeatable. Now, this

is also this is a hot take right now, too, because

many people love this character I love this character,

but this is where I think the series went downhill

Okay, so when it comes to Gizmo duck Love it.

Love the character. He is one of people's probably

favorite character on the show but That's when

the show loses its heart, I think, is when Gizmoduck

comes in and replaces Launchpad McQuack. Cause

Launchpad's still in it, but he's way more of

a side character than ever before when Gizmoduck

comes along. Well, yeah, because Launchpad went

over to St. Canard and yeah, exactly. Exactly.

Even though, uh, Ted Stone says they're not connected,

but how are they not connected? I'm sorry. How

are they? Are they not connected? That's what

I don't understand. Okay, so I can separate fiction

from people, from real people. Again, like I

said earlier in the episode, as children, we

didn't know. No one knew, but everyone looked

up to the character of Cliff Oxtable, except

nobody knew what, you know what I mean? But the

same thing with this kind of thing. This whole,

just everything about these kids, some of these

creators that have gone just completely insane.

Thank God I went with the lingerie buyer instead

of the boy wizard. But like, I'm serious. Like,

I understand people want to keep continuity or

not keep continuity or whatever, and people want

to say various things. Oh, they are, they aren't

connected. Look. If you have one character that

started in one show that is the same damn character

as the other show and jumps over to the other

show because whatever and maybe if I'm remembering

correctly Doesn't lost lunch bed at some point

in Darkwing Duck say that he came from Duckburg

if he said I think you are right and if he says

he comes from Duckburg the only other Show that

has had Duckberg in it in 1991 was DuckTales.

Even Darkwing Duck had Gizmo Duck as well. So

there's two. Exactly. Whatever. Anyway, creators

be crazy. Maybe he doesn't want to admit they're

together, but I'm sorry they're together. And

you can even take side by side. It's an older

launch pad. He's heavier set. He's older looking

than DuckTales. Yep. which I love. I love that

change. It was showing that it was a different

timeline. I loved it. But Duck and DuckTales,

I still, I mean, I still watch this first, at

least first season over and over and over again.

I love it. So I'm not gonna, I mean, I guess

you can kind of give your opinion on it if you

want to, but I'm only going to ask you about

the theme songs. So we all know the original.

Yeah. And the original was done by a male singer.

Yeah. Life is like a hurricane Here in Duckburg

Race cars, lasers, aeroplanes It's a duck blur

You might solve a mystery Or rewrite history

DuckTales, woo! Every day they... The new 2017

version was done by a female singer. Did you

get overly excited or down or what? It's the

same damn song. It's just not sung by a guy.

I didn't hear the way because I didn't watch

the show. I watched the first episode to check

it out because I want to have the opinion on

it without having without not watching it. You

know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I didn't hate it.

I hated the animation. I hate some of the voices.

I thought having Huey doing Louie have those

voices was just odd. But as a show, it was fun.

At least I think I watched two episodes. It was

fine. Okay. But again, I don't watch modern cartoons.

So I just wanted to check it out so I can have

an opinion on it. I didn't hate it. There you

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