Toys We Fell Into

Jazz here, and I am so diggin' the Geekcast Radio

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will ever need. Hello and welcome to an all -new

generation of Toycast. This is Toycast. This

is episode 159. I'm of course TF2 and Mike. Joining

me sort of as always is The Floor Burger. Hello,

sir. Hello. Yes, and what ha ha ha it is the

holiday season Not yet. No Well, I'm referring

to the only holiday that really is meaningful

to me is the one that represents death and decay

Easter Yeah, we're about Six months late on that

I think Swing and a miss. Yeah. Yeah. Pumpkin

Jack is going to have the Easter bunny for Christmas.

Actually, I'd like to see that. I am the pumpkin

king. Shut up, you stupid bad animation thing.

Anyway, yeah, we are here. We are talking more

toys on Toycast as always. And yeah. tonight

we are no I'm I'm just trying to think how many

rocks can I skip between Miami and the Bahamas

anyway we are here to talk about the toys we

fell into so back in I think it was episode 110

we did the toys of summer last year And there

really aren't any fall toys I mean there there

just aren't. There's winter toys there summer

toys that's really old like I guess technically

we could spring into the toy collecting thing

but we've done that years and years and years

ago. And yeah toys that we fell into basically

toys that are just either in our collections

or we've had over the years that we just don't

remember where the hell we got some or. We do

remember where the hell they came from. So what

do you got, Josh? So I think fall is actually

a very interesting time for toys. It's back to

school time. There's a lot of shifts in retail

stores where there's a very, very quick switch

from summer goods, your outdoor stuff, any of

your big movie. Boy lines so Buzz Lightyear was

a big movie toy line from this year Jurassic

Park so you have those big things coming in.

Yep and that is as fall starts to come in stores

don't have their eyes on the fall anymore stores

start having their eyes on. Holiday season Christmas

Hanukkah whatever and so right now we are seeing

that huge shift of a lot of resets for the holiday

season some new toys to new product coming out.

So fall is actually very. Interesting time, but

I think September, October, nobody really does

think about toys. So when you're asking what

type of toys or what toys have I fallen into

that I don't remember where they came from, I

think that's been a very interesting aspect of

my collecting of what is the story behind it?

Where did I get it? So It's not necessarily that

I don't remember it but I think one of the more

interesting toys that I've held on to and Didn't

really realize it was going to have any sort

of value later in life was a Teenage Mutant Ninja

Turtles space you soggy And so this was Honestly,

I I'm trying to see the figure on my shelf right

now So this was actually a cartridge figure I

picked up at my local Goodwill. I think before

I moved to Gurney, so I used to live in Lake

Zurich, Illinois, I moved over to Gurney. And

the Goodwill over there, I don't know what it's

like for a lot of other collectors who go to

thrift stores, but the ones around me, you go

to them, they're either amazing or they're nothing

at all. There's no in between, there's no average.

And I remember going into this one, and I can't

remember exactly where I found it. I think I

maybe found it on a random shelf. Didn't really

expect it to find anything. And so I see the

Ninja Turtles logo, and I don't remember what

year this was. Maybe 2010, 2011. And I pick up

a carted Ninja Turtles figure, which not the

most common thing, but it was 99 cents. So it's

a carted, it's not mint, it's a little beat up,

it's got some cartel work to it. But it's a carted

Space Usagi for 99 cents. And even at that time

in 2010, where turtle figures weren't the most

valuable thing in the world, that was still a

very, very incredible find for me. And I always

had this rule at thrift stores or antique malls,

if the price was right, if I found a vintage

Ninja Turtle, I would always pick it up. That

was just my general rule. So it would explain

why I have four, five, six, or I have had four

to five, six, seven general tracks, which I'm

not sure why that is the one that gets donated

the most, but that was the one I found the most.

I mean, yeah, let's just go ahead and say that.

Weirdly, though, he has some of the best articulation

of most of the vintage digital figures at the

time. He's one of the only ones that has. articulation

at the elbow. Very, very rare at that time, is

to have that articulated elbow joint. But I always

had that rule. If I found a vintage Ninja Turtle

at any of the thrift stores around me, from a

Savers to a Goodwill or whatever, I had to buy

it. And to find this carted version, and this

was before the collector's market really got

heated up and really went crazy. So I kept that

on my shelf because I thought it was just such

an incredible find and I do have a rule that

if I find a a Rare vintage carded figure that

is at a ridiculous price. I keep the price tag

on it So I still have the space you saw you which

is actually really neat interesting figure he

has a Space bubble that goes over his head. He's

got guns. He's got a soft goods cape. He's really

really unique really cool figure but I've always

kept the the price tag on it says goodwill 99

cents and to go with it i have a gangus frog

that has an eight dollar price tag on it and

then not far from that i have a which michaelangelo

is that sorry it is a sewer surfing ninja turtle

michaelangelo with a five dollar price tag interesting

you will not see that nope anywhere anywhere

anymore nope so So I keep those on there for

good reason, just as a reminder that you could

find vintage package Ninja Turtles for under

10 bucks, under 20 bucks, under 40 bucks. But

that was one of the first things I can really

think of if you ask me, what did I fall into?

That was just me wandering around a Goodwill

and finding a packaged, kind of obscure Ninja

Turtle figure of Space Usagi. For me as a kid

it was more like, you know, like I said, how

did that get here kind of thing? I kind of always

knew about it, but it was more of like hmm. I

Remember having this but where did it go at this

point? But Whenever any of like it could be Tropicana

it could be General mill any any brand in the

80s did mail away stuff Specifically like like

food items did mail or what like Tropicana if

you saved like I Don't know seven UPCs and mailed

them in you could get a Tropicana orange radio

AM FM radio And it was just this little thing

listen You want to talk about the the age of

Bluetooth when Bluetooth didn't hadn't grown

in yet kind of thing. It was this little Radio

that had the AM FM dial on it and it had the

you know all that and it just took two double

A batteries and it was you know a Tropicana orange

and it had the straw for the antenna. Oh I see

that now look I just looked it up. Oh yeah. And

I love that thing like I said I knew that my

mom had had sent away for it certain things that

can't like. Kids today probably don't know that

cereal boxes used to come with prizes at least

most of the sugary ones did But there were some

that you actually had to save the box tops and

mail those in to get certain things I remember

there was one year you could get a I think it

was six or maybe ten box tops plus like Five

dollars shipping and handling or whatever it

was if you mailed that in you could get a a actual

lucky the leprechaun four -leaf clover With your

name engraved on it. So it was basically a glass

four -leaf clover with your name on it Yeah You

know the yeah the the toys that I kind of fell

into aren't like it's It's kind of like that

question on origins, like what's the cheapest

or what's the best deal you ever got in a toy?

And for me, it's like, oh yeah, I kind of remember

buying the original 87 Leo and Donnie, but how

the hell have they survived over the last 40?

They, I don't have them anymore, but about 10

years ago, I found them again and somehow they

were at the, they were in the dungeon at the

bottom of Castle Grayskull for some odd reason.

I don't understand how the Ninja Turtles got

to Eternia, but It is what it is Probably some

sort of migrant labor program I'm bringing those

Italians. I don't know that that means absolutely

nothing listeners. I'm really just Well, I was

gonna rip off on that and say oh forced animal

labor or something like, you know Mush you turtles

mush. Oh God now all I have in my head is Yukon

Cornelius from the Rudolph cartoon See, you're

talking about this being the wrong season, man.

You can't. I know, right? That's what I'm saying.

Fall is the wrong season because it just, like

you said already, it's transition. The summer

stuff is getting packed away. The winter stuff

is coming out. Well, I think one of the challenges

with the fall season, though, comparatively,

is that We're going back to school kids are going

back to school the summertime for a lot of kiddos

is the time for toys It's time for games. It's

time for a lot of the stuff that we probably

You know take for granted like that would that

was our our golden age During the school year.

We're looking at homework and projects and You

know any spare time we have isn't really used

for playing with toys, it's more or less used

for schoolwork or sports or other activities

that start taking place. So I think what's actually

interesting with this conversation is what sort

of comes out during this time of year. Like we

can talk about what did we fall into and I've

fallen into a lot of interesting toys, but nothing

as I'm looking around the stuff that I have displayed.

As far as stuff I've fallen into, not so much,

but there's some really cool stuff I used to

play around with, especially during the holiday

season that I can't, I don't know, I have no

idea even how to look it up. Like there was a

skeleton decoration that we used to have where

all the joints were connected just with metal

loops. I don't know. Does that ring a bell to

you at all? No. No? No. So it was just like this

weird dangly almost... Ragdoll sort of style

of a skeleton toy and we used to play with it

with our with our Ghostbusters toys But because

it only came out at Halloween It it remained

something special for us. It wasn't something

so this was not one of the standard Skeletons,

you'd see it like the dollot like the the standee

like the stand -up skeletons that you could actually

dance This was an actual action figure, correct?

It wasn't really a an action figure But it was

that size is my point. It isn't it isn't life

-size like the normal No, no, it was definitely

something the size of a typical action figure

and I'm looking for I Googled Dangle skeleton,

which I'm getting some really weird results.

I don't recommend that Yeah, no, I'm getting

a lot of earrings and just some random stuff

and you know some other images where I'm pretty

sure that somebody threw in some unusual keywords

into their their picture search, but There were

some of these Dingly skeletons that we would

use everything from my brothers and I used to

love these vintage Flashlights that we were supposed

to use during trick -or -treating The heads were

either ghost heads or pumpkin heads and they

were slightly translucent. Do you have any memory

of those? No Oh, shit! What are we gonna do now?

If you're gonna ride, Danno, ride in style! So,

folks, in the middle of recording episode 159

of Toycast here on the Geekcast Radio Network,

we have had some breaking news. Duh -duh -duh

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That is from... Oh, that's from Sweet Life. Anyway,

Sweet Life on Deck. Anyway... Uh, good old miss,

uh, Tutwiler. Uh, yes, we are back. Josh doesn't

remember what he was talking about, but talk

about toys we fell into. A listener of the show,

a friend of mine now who actually listens to

he, he's longtime friends with Joe Pesce, Joe

Pesce, Big Joe Pesce is one of the, the co -hosts

of the Joe Pesce and or the Big Joe and Laura

show up on, uh, 95 seven. Mix957 up in Grand

Rapids, Michigan. And Alex, literally, as we're

recording this podcast on October 11th, 2022,

sends me an affiliate link for Patriot Prime.

Patriot Prime is another one of my buddies, another

Transformers YouTuber. And it was a link to be

able to purchase the Transformers War for Cybertron

Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime. And I'm

like, Oh, that is so awesome. I'll have to get

it at another day. And Alex basically says, uh,

would it make your day if I got this for you?

Uh, I was like, absolutely anything. Any listeners

do for me makes my day. That would be awesome.

Thank you so much. And I'm, you know, thanking

him and thanking him and thanking him. Well,

in the midst of recording this podcast, apparently

he got a, like, he just placed the order like.

Over four hours ago. And all like I know it's

Amazon prime, but you know, I don't think Amazon

has alien spaceships yet. I don't think they're

beaming stuff down from the USS Endeavor or Enterprise

or Defiant or 1701, no A, B, C or D allowed,

you know. But all of a sudden, I now have. You

say that and now they're listening. Yes, they're

listening. Well, of course, you know, they always

have to be listening. That's right. But yeah.

Wow, this box is amazing. A little beat up, but

it's just the art on this box is just... You'll

have to send me pictures later. Yes, later, because

we're in the middle of recording a podcast, but

yeah. No, right now. I want them right now. I

think that was clear. That's what my request

was. Yes, well, my phone is on the charger and

I don't have a webcam on my computer, which is

something that apparently I'm supposed to be

getting at some point or whatever. I don't know.

But yeah, that's cool. Talk about toys I fell

into. It happened right, did not even plan it.

Like I said, I thought Amazon was going to take

like two, three, four days, whatever it is. Anyway,

so yeah, I now have a Commander Class Rodimus

Prime, which is funny because I had the original

Rodimus Prime when he came out back in the 80s.

And I remember, and it's funny when we're talking

about Florida off air, I remember being in Key

Biscayne, Florida in 1989 with the original Rodimus

Prime toy playing with it at a hotel that we

were staying at down there. And this thing is

essentially the original Ronimus Prime toy, but

in today's standards, in today's tooling, in

today's size of action figure, it's like what

I wanted 40 years ago, I now have 40 years later.

I always think that's a little interesting in

the toys that we had. I think even as kids, five,

six, seven, eight, nine, 10 years old, however

old you were in 89, I was five. I think we generally

knew a good toy versus not a good toy. And there

were a few Transformers. I will say Cup. And

maybe somebody will chase after me in the dark

of night at some point for saying this. The original

Cup figure was not a good toy. And that's one

that I really remember. there were a lot of other

g1 transformers i actually only own one g1 transformer

right now i can't see where it is i think it's

dread wind or something along those lines it

was actually it was a toy that my wife and i

had found at a thrift store right around one

of the first days we moved into our previous

house together and so it was the first toy that

lived in our house and i have it it's Either

somewhere buried on my shelf, I can't see it

right now, or it's in a box. But they just were

not poseable. And I know that was one of the

things with their early transformers was that

it was either focusing on the robot mode or the

vehicle mode. You did not get a healthy mesh

between the two. Nowadays, I have an Optimus

Prime transforms perfectly into its cartoon rendition.

and then you transform it and it's perfect in

its robot rendition. And it looks great and it's

consistent and it's posable and it's magical

and it's wonderful. But I think that was one

of the reasons I didn't really get too much into

Transformers as a kid. And this is a totally

different conversation than the topic we started

with. No, it's OK. But as kids, there were a

lot of toys that I was like, this is just not

a great toy. It just doesn't work out. And as

I'm looking at some of my old Star Wars toys,

and maybe some people will come after me for

this, Star Wars toys, the figures themselves,

not great. Not great. No, they weren't. Especially

with G .I. Joe out there, especially with some

other toy lines out there. They were cool enough.

They allowed you to have a figure rendition of

the character you really liked. You weren't the

best toys. They were they were easy enough to

carry in your pockets They were small enough

that they were great for Little kid hands and

you can do a lot with them and you can own a

ton of them and they would only take up like

what a box Mm -hmm but They weren't the best

but anyways before I started saying stuff that

gets me chased down by a Truth hurts right, you

know Well, I there are some toys now that I will

wholeheartedly agree say aren't the best but

I think for the most part there's a lot of toys

now that meet that healthy middle line between

articulation and sculpt and playability play

features and play value but to jump back to our

topic toys we fell into okay here we go you ready

boys we fell into so when I was actually trying

to pursue being a toy dealer when I was trying

to get into that Breaking Bad lifestyle of, okay,

I'm gonna be the toy buyer, the toy dealer, I'm

not in the money business, I'm not in the toy

business, I'm in the empire building business.

I was scoping out Facebook Marketplace, and this

is before everybody bought and sold toys. And

I found somebody selling some early 2000s Transformers.

Okay. I think they were for the most part, Anargon

and Cybertron. Okay. Which my jam was Armada.

I loved Armada, but anything after Armada I just

sort of gave up on. I think Armada had a couple

really good, posable, really nice figures that

hit that sort of anime, manga style of Transformer,

but still... I still have an Armada Optimus Prime

up on my shelf, and it's the original one I had

from when I was in college, like 2000 or 2002

or 2003. Still a fun figure. And I thought to

myself, OK, this seems like a good deal. Let's

go for it. Let's see what I can do. So I go out

to a Walgreens out in what town is that? I don't

know. It was. Dark of night. It was really late.

It was kind of a very cold sort of a spooky night

and I get out there and I I meet up with this

mom and her son who were selling these two bins

of transformers and I thought Okay, this this

is This is my chance. This is I'm gonna get this

really good bin of transformers. Mm -hmm and

Go and I buy it up and I give them the cash and

I'm not sure if I spent the right feeling I throw

up my car I get back. And I wish I could have

spent more time going through all the different

toys because. Outside of a small handful, it

was just a bunch of incomplete, not broken, but

just missing some key part transformers that

I just didn't know what. Like, what do you do

with this? Like, what do you do with a bunch

of incomplete transformers? I still spent a really

good. I still got a really good deal on them.

What do you do with them? So months go by and

I'm trying to part them out and I'm looking up

everything I can. Transformers take a long time

to look up, right? Yes, they do. Yep. And to

make sure you have all the parts and sorting

them out and getting them all bagged up, I get

closer to the springtime. I don't get really

any bites on them at a toy show. And I am heartbroken

because I thought this was my thing. I have this

big Starscream. I had this big tall Starscream

who was missing his crown. I had all these really

great figures, but they were just missing some

parts. So it gets to spring, like May, late May,

early June -ish. And the toy show was not a success.

So I'm going to a garage sale. and there's somebody

selling a lot of Transformers from a little bit

before that. So a lot of the Beast Wars reissues,

a lot of, I think it was Robots in Disguise,

maybe? Probably, yeah. And I asked the lady,

how much would you take on the whole box? And

there's two boxes and I'm looking in one and

I see, This one box looks like it's got some

pretty good stuff. So I'm like how much would

you take on the whole box? And she says 30 bucks.

I'm like 30 bucks Done, but I grab the box. I

go home and I start sorting it I'm able to start

like sort of consolidate. I actually start finding

some pieces for the stuff in the other box I'm

like, this is working out really really well

and I Find that I have a reissue of the original

optimist primal So if you remember the very first

Optimus Primal, when it came out, it had very,

very strong Optimus Prime colors to it when you

transformed it. This one was more of, I think

it was maybe a target version. Do you know what

I'm talking about? It's very red. Which alt mode

was this? Because there were two alt modes for

Optimus Primal. So this is the original beast

a Gorilla, okay? That's that's all you got to

tell me it's the gorilla because yeah Originally

the original toy before the cartoon came out

and made him the gorilla They were going, he

and Megatron were two different animals in the

actual original. Yeah, it was a bat and a gator.

Yep, yep. But this, and he's still hiding up

on my shelf right now, I can't see him from where

I'm sitting. But this is a very red version of

Optimus Primal. And I think it was a target entered,

I don't remember exactly what it was from. I'm

looking at it now, it was a Takara, Optimus Primal,

Ultra Class, 96, 97, 98. Ultra size class though

the transformation European version released

in English Spanish Italian Beast Wars Packaging

feature the additional alternate name blackjack

from the Italian market It's a toy under the

name of convoy is part of there. So I see the

red one. I know what you're talking about. I

just don't know The name of it. So keep keep

telling your story about your red optimus primal

your red monkey So one of the things that I noticed

was of the two bins of these transformers I was

looking in, one I remembered having these random

missiles. I picked up the bin that had the Optimus

Primal in it, but not these random missiles.

So later that day, maybe about two, three hours

later, after the garage sales and everything

were over, I drove back to the lady's house.

and knocked on the door, and she's like, oh,

hi, she remembered me, because I made, you know,

I talked to her for a while and made a big deal

out of the discussion around the toys and stuff

like that. And I said, hey, I'm really interested

in buying the other box, can I buy the other

box? And she's like, well, this is a little weird,

but sure, they're still in the garage. So she

opens the garage, I walk around. I ended up buying

the other box. So I now had this giant collection

of random transformers just to really get a complete

optimus primal. That's really what it came down

to. And those ended up coming with me to the

next Fall King County show and I sold a bunch.

So I started selling off, I just bagged up a

bunch of these. I started selling them for a

couple bucks a piece, made my money back, started

making a profit on it. but I didn't want to take,

this whole box just made me really upset. I had

this huge tub of Transformers and I just was

really annoyed with it. So this dad and his kid

come up to me. I already knew that I made my

money back and I already made a profit on it

and this dad and this kid come up to me and they're

looking through and they're starting to put like

a couple aside and I said, hey, if you're interested,

I'll sell you the whole bin. And they're like,

what are you talking about? I'm like, I don't

want to take it home. What would you do on the

whole bin? So they start. talking amongst themselves,

you know, and they're, they're figuring this

stuff out. They made me an offer and I sold them

the entire bin and they're looking at me. Like

they just hit, they just like you had. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And they went running off with this

bin and they're so happy and I'm sitting there

like suckers. It worked out for both of us though.

Like they went and they had all these great Transformers

and I have, you know, my money back. But that

was just one of those things. It's just like,

I walked into this giant lot of Transformers

and I think that's what a lot of toy dealers

and my friend Mike over at Times Pass, like that's

what a lot of people walk into. is you just get

so much stuff that if you don't have the time,

if you don't have the facilities, if you fall

into too many toys, it's hard to process them

and know what to do with them. And I didn't know

what to do with that many Transformers because

it wasn't really my niche. And Transformers is

such a vast and such a unique toy line. And I'm

looking at my shelf. And have I ever sent you

a picture of my entire shelf? I don't. Remember,

but let me ask you before you send me that, let

me send you this. Oh, I'm not getting out of

my chair. I'll make too much noise. Was he all

red or was he just red in parts? No, I just found

that picture. I'll send it to you. Okay. Cause

yeah, we may be talking about two, like I'm thinking

I found the answer to the question of which Optimus

Primal this is. And now that you're discussing

it and telling me about it and I'm like, maybe

it's not the same one. Because I'm like, hmm,

I wonder if it's this. And then you're saying,

no, it's probably going to be this. OK, what

is this? This is oh. OK. That is not exact. Oh,

this was 2003. OK. This is 2003 Optimus. See,

I'm thinking it's one of the original Beast Wars

Optimus Primals, because when you said red, I'm

thinking, oh, Burning Convoy. And huge thanks.

No, I wish it was that one. Let me, yeah. He

looks like a flavored candy. The one you sent

me looks like if I, you know, he would be flavored

like tangerine or something. Yeah, I see. Oh

well first of all I have to credit because you

have to you know always credit your sources folks

always always always always no joke seriously

do it tfwiki .net universe 2003 optimist primal

ultra class and yeah that's yeah I like the burning

convoy much better now when I was looking for

more in -depth For the burning convoy I went

over to TFU .info which is done by a buddy of

mine Anthony and Anthony TFU .info if you if

you need any information on Transformers toys

go look up stuff on TFU .info because He has

it all he has been compiling this since I don't

know 1999 maybe I'm probably wrong on that but

But yeah, no this yeah, no, I would much rather

have burning convoy to not that I want burning

convoy, but it looks much better than the universe

I'm sorry to say Well the one I have I yeah the

fact that I got it through a garage sale Oh,

yeah, no, I'm just saying the figure itself not

necessarily yours. Oh my god I'm not trying to

shit all over the fact that you've got a really

cool thing for yourself, but I'm just saying,

like, in comparison, like, if it was me, I would

be like, oh, the really candy apple red one would

be better or whatever. Yeah, I will admit that

I do wish that I still had a few of the Beast

Wars figures that I got in that whole thing,

because there are a couple of those original

Beast Wars figures that I don't think a lot of

us see the issues of. Some of the weird fusion

fusions, I think it was. There were some fun

ones in there that I don't think we'll ever see

again There was a few trans metals. I don't think

we'll ever see again. There was just some real

creativity where they would say, you know what?

let's take this ferret and this I Don't know

hyena. Let's turn them into an animal animal

together and give them wings and then and that

was just a cool figure. Yeah, but I fell into

that big box and it was just a big challenge

to figure out what to do with all of that stuff,

which is one of the reasons why I don't really

do the hustle of the toy collecting anymore because

not only is it hard to find, but if you don't

really have the ability to just push them out

and sell them and get the sales of Velacia and

that would be unofficial, I'm just not really

interested anymore. Yeah. absolutely yeah and

like I said I mean you know it even if it's like

stuff that like like I said toys that we fell

into doesn't necessarily have it could mean anything

it could mean stuff that our mom got us or whatever

the stuff that we just don't don't remember like

we like I don't know why, you know how it was

last year and I think even people still do it

this year too. Most YouTubers are like, you know,

and that's the way they promote it and that's

fine. That's the way YouTube is, you know, like,

comment, subscribe. Oh, and make sure that you're

actually subscribed because YouTube has been

unsubscribing people. So what I noticed as I'm

going through, I was the other day, I was going

through all my old Funko photos on my Facebook.

And I'm like, hmm, do I have that listed in the

Funko app in my collection? I added like, I know

I have the toys, they're in storage at my dad's.

I know I have the Funko Pops, but like, I don't

remember seeing those in my Funko app. I essentially

added toys that I already have, so it's not like

I've bought them again. But my Funko Pop collection

before adding all of these was valued just at

over $4 ,000. And it's the Funko app and their

values are all over the place so it doesn't really

matter in the grand scheme of things, but I added

like, I don't know, 40 figures that were not

listed that I knew I had jumped from $4 ,000

to just over $6 ,000 in value. Yeah, you know,

you fall into that and you fall into it. And

like I said, like I said, you know, this this

Commander Class Rodimus, I thought, oh, it's

Amazon, even though it's like these early Prime

Day deals or whatever the hell they're doing

with these this advanced Prime Day thing. It's

like, oh, it'll come in like two or three days

or something. And, you know, it is one of those

things that I can admire about Funko Pops that

maybe over my own collection. that you can actually

check the value of what you have relatively easily

with me it's like oh i've got this meanest here

at the guard i mean there is a site called i

think it's called hobby db I think is what it

is. I think they have an app too. But I don't

know if I necessarily trust a lot of that because

just because something has a value written by,

you know, some guy somewhere. Well, the thing

you ever try to take my collection to a King

County and just say, hey, I want to sell it off.

I have stuff all over the place that might sell

the first two hours of King County. And then

I have stuff that. I might have to throw at people

as they walk away from me just saying, take it,

take it with you. I don't want it anymore. And

just like whipping a multiposable or a composable

Gimli at them. Take him. It's, it's Gimli. You

want him. He's multiposable. It just, it doesn't

necessarily work. Like there's stuff that I have

that I've held onto for a very long period of

time that I fell into. I guess we could say like

my muppet. I fell into Muppets. Okay. When I

started really getting into collecting, I would

say 2003, 2004, I didn't have a lot of money,

but I wanted to collect since it's six inches

scale. So 2003, what's really big in the stores,

but getting clearance out has a lot of good sales

on it. So what six inches in 2003 that is worth

buying. Lord of the Rings and Muppets. So all

of the stores out by me, the Sam Goodies, the,

I don't know if FYE was out here where I was

getting Muppet figures, but Target, Toys R Us,

anywhere that had Muppets, nobody was buying

it. I could just get all of it. It was cheap.

It was five, six, seven bucks with these Muppet

figures. And then they started going up in value

and I thought, oh man, I'm set for life. This

is one of my most expensive collections that

I have. Not anymore. Not even close. Yeah, I

honestly think that toy companies should have

an app. Hasbro should have an app that includes

all of their brands. Mattel should have an app

that includes all of their brands. But I think

that even though A lot of those big companies

can cite the secondary market as a reason why

their figures hold value and why they can get

away with marking things at certain prices. I

don't think corporate companies want to say,

Hey, you know, my right. No, that's not. No.

What I'm saying is, yeah, you're right. The secondary

market is what, what Does the value tipping on

these things now the funko app is not exactly.

Always correct on the actual value of certain

funko pops, but it's nice that they have an entire

app where you can search any character as long

as there's a funko pop of it. And you can add

it to your collection or you can add it to your

wish list all as I'm saying much like my buddy

Anthony who does tfu .info. Where he has curated

the entirety of most of every single Transformers

line that has ever been for informational purposes

you know and That's great. I'm saying I want

Hasbro Mattel whomever to have something like

that to have a database that we can then go into

and Add to our and we obviously keep track like

the Funko pop stuff fluctuates so a pop that

might be valued at at $10 right now if it gets

a reason if it gets a restock and a bunch of

people buy it and then the value is gonna go

down more or if it becomes more rare that you

can't find it anymore than the value is gonna

go up on it and it's just it's the whole Funko

pop value game is a whole thing that I just I'm

I'm just here because I like the pops I feel

like though with pops, it's a much. It's a much

easier trackable thing, you're correct. Yeah,

I think it's easier to track. I think it's something

that especially because if you get. Let's say

Iron Man. Hasbro, I'm looking at one Iron Man

figure I got on clearance for five bucks and

then they re -released it. a year and a half

later, with a new banner on it, with a couple

new heads, a different hand, and they re -released

it. I see it hanging from my shelf. I got it

for five bucks on clearance a couple years ago,

I think around Infinity War and Endgame or whatever.

And then they put it back out, and it's the same

exact figure with a new head with slightly different

paint, and it's a $60 figure again. and it changes

the whole game that even though it's the same

figure because now you can sell with a couple

different hands, it's a totally different value.

I don't think Funko Pop does that though. I think

it's different enough that you can say it's a

different version where this is, it's the same

body, just different hands. Now what happens

to that old figure, that $5 figure? Is it now

a $2 figure? There's always those things. How

much is being clearanced out? Of stores right

now with the was it bone breaker wave I'm not

sure if you're familiar with it which one that

was yeah, but that wave just sat and just recently

got pushed out of stores for 50 60 70 percent

off and It is a little painful to see that I

don't know if there's ever going to be a way

to manage those prices and plus a lot of prices

really come down to not necessarily what some

abstract person thinks but what you and I are

willing to spend on a toy. Like I'm not willing

to spend $350 on a Ghost Rider car. I'm not.

I have no desire, no willingness to do that.

Does that mean that somebody else doesn't want

to and they feel it to be worth it? No. So I

don't know what to price that at, because for

me, that car is worth 20 bucks. For somebody

else, that car is worth 500 bucks. For somebody

else, 200. I don't know. Right. But I think with

Pops, because they probably actually know the

exact quantity that they produced in most cases,

I think it's a little easier to judge that. Yeah,

and the thing is, is that. So did you ever see

the the episode where? Is it it's Raj and Howard?

They go and now there's a okay. Well, they they

go when they get custom Custom me go figures

of themselves and It's like $500 a figure or

something because they were actually me go figure

things and and all that, so... Our action figures

have arrived. It's the best $500 I've ever spent.

$1 ,000 on action figures? How can you afford

that? Easy. His family's loaded and Bernadette

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Selfie Series. Now, the reason why I brought

up the Big Bang Theory episode and all that and

everything else, Is that in that episode they

spent like I don't know five hundred thousand

bucks or whatever it was to get themselves made

up as me go figures. Funko has the pop yourself

line where you could if you go to Funko HQ in

Everett Washington or if you go to the Funko

Hollywood store. They have a pop factory with

general box and general things and beard accessories

and. all this stuff and other accessories and

other clothing and backgrounds or whatever else

where you can essentially pop yourself and make

a pop of yourself with a box and everything else

i think at the time and i think it's still this

i'll have to look it was 25 dollars per custom

pop okay so that's essentially roughly around

the actual price of A six inch pop or an art

series pop or whatever kind of thing. Well, Hasbro

now is doing this selfie series. And yes, I know

this, this topic has gone off of the rails of

toys we fell into, but we're talking about it.

I don't know when the next episode is you're

going to be on because the next two episodes

I've already got recorded and they are both origins

episodes with different people. So. Hasbro selfie

series is you get to choose from I build let's

see Power Rangers GI Joe Ghostbusters Star Wars

or Marvel you get to choose one of those body

types and They 3d print your head you take you

know You 3d scan your head or you take pictures

of the various like take a it doesn't work very

well The 3d print of your head doesn't work very

well So I use the the app uh -huh I posted it

in the toy world order group. I don't know if

the side Oh, no, I didn't see it. Hang on. Give

me a minute here I'm too busy making it. It looks

any windows and nothing like you like me. Yeah

All right, give me a minute here. Let's see.

I'm sending to you. Okay. Okay. Okay. Cool. Cool

It is basically I look like if frozen yogurt

decided to try to be a superhero. It is about

as bland and unassuming and non -threatening

as can be. Oh, my God. That's hilarious. Now,

did you actually? OK, so you've tried this process,

OK? I didn't order it. Right, right, right. OK,

so that's what I was going to ask you. This or

that this this process of the Hasbro pulse app

or the selfie app or whatever it's called is

you get to go through the process of doing this

figure up and then you would eventually order

it. Now what is interesting to me is that did

you know that the price you would have paid the

day you did this was a day one pulse con only

price. Oh, is it back up to 80 now? Yeah, these

things I'm pretty sure are 80 bucks a pop for

MSRP. They were doing the 59 .99, the 60 bucks

a pop thing for PulseCon at the time. Now, you

don't look bad. The figure looks bad. Your picture's

fine. It just... it you know everyone always

says about the funko pops all blacks and you

don't have black solar size but they usually

say oh black solar size and big head little body

like literally your human head on this i'm sorry

to say just fugly ghost busters costume just

doesn't look right it yeah it it's them it's

not you dude like the power ranger one looks

much better but that ghost busters one Don't

know maybe they need to not pop the collar so

much on that. But yeah, I would not pay 60 or

even $80 for this I Would pay 60 70 80 hell I'd

pay $200 to get my you know, you know something

like that If it was like a real sculpted You

know version of myself kind of thing. Well, like

what Howard and Raj did in in the Big Bang Theory

where they paid like 500 bucks or whatever it

was to get their MeeGo figures. You know, but

yeah, for this, this is no. I could have my buddy

do this who does 3D printing. Like, yeah, this

is I don't know, dude. Yeah, I would not pay

the money for this. Yeah, I. Mean the $60 I considered

it I Considered it we will leave it at that Yeah,

it's still $60 Yeah, so I just I just read it

again while you're talking because oh is it still

$60? Okay right now. Yeah, they caught a lot.

They caught a ton of flack. Yeah Okay, well then

you know I take it back then but originally these

things were supposed to be $79 .99 after the

pulsecom thing So just tried it again and No,

no, no it dude it's fine Yeah, I just it doesn't

look close enough that it would be worth my time

or my money Yeah, you know it just is gonna look

like some other random vanilla white dude I mean,

that's basically like my go -to like I'm a vanilla

white dude but At the end of the day it doesn't

If people get it and they're happy with it great.

I just for 60 bucks I'd rather see if I can find

someone who can do a better scan or a better

print out or something like that. And I'm sure

there's somebody out there who could do a better

version, but without being able to see the product

before I buy it, I just don't feel comfortable

with that. I think that's reasonable. Absolutely.

And that's the thing about the whole pop yourself

thing for 25 bucks. For getting your own Funko

pop thing is you are there. Yes, you have to

choose from their their pre done bucks, but you

get to choose your your facial hair your like

Everything about it is customizable kind of thing

and it for only $25. That's awesome Yeah, you

know, I'm not trying to sit here and throw shade

on Hasbro But I kind of am at the same time because

I'm sorry 80 bucks for a pre -produced plastic

buck of whatever You know, like we said, G .I.

Joe, Power Ranger, Star Wars, Marvel, and then

a 3D printed version of your own head. That just.

Well, it's admittedly it's really hard for me

right now to kind of get on the Hasbro hate train

because it seems like that's kind of the popular

thing to do. I'm not trying to hate on them.

All is I'm saying is what we've been saying for

the past 15 minutes or so is that for the price,

it's not worth it. in my mind for what you're

going to get. But if you have a facial sculpt

or facial structure that works with this, I feel

like maybe I need a smile. I think I'm actually

looking like I'm partially falling asleep in

the skin. I think if you have a notable facial

structure or more notable facial traits or something,

I don't know, better eyebrows or eyes or whatever

than I have. I look like if Wonder Bread had

hair. It's not for me to say this is the best

thing for me to run out and produce multiple

toys of this. I thought it would be a lot of

fun, but looking at what the end result is now,

which I know we wanted to talk about falling

into toys. We are so far off. We're so far off

now, but part of me... also feels like this is

actually not a bad thing to talk about because

oh and again that's why you know i wanted to

kind of bring it up was because i wanted to get

your opinion on it and now that i know that you

actually tried doing the scans it's like oh yeah

it even and it's not about hating on hasbro it

hasn't like i still like what they do with transformers

i still don't what they do with others it's just

that for the price that they are charging for

this service for what you're getting out of it

It's not worth it, in my opinion. Well, one of

the problems that I find in general is a lot

of people are saying that getting a selfie series

makes you narcissistic. Like, which I didn't

understand at all. No, I mean, OK, doesn't every

80s child want an action figure of themselves?

Haven't we all wanted this at some point? Uh

-huh. In 40 years like yeah, so no that's not

narcissistic Every kid every I'm going to just

generalize and say every male child from the

eight late 70s Throughout the 80s up until now

has always wanted an action figure of themselves

hence I will try to find a clip for you so you

can see the Big Bang Theory thing so you can

get the reference after the show and all that

but like everybody who has been a geek for their

entire life have always wanted to have themselves

in action figure form I just think that Hasbro

with doing it as a standard buck thing for various

like and it's like they couldn't even do like

the standard Transformers construction person

so you remember the old the general generation

one cartoon at all Okay, so. Yeah, wrong guy.

Fine, whatever. But the point is, is that in

Transformers Generation 1, the old cartoon from

1984, Spike and Spark plug with Wiki. Come on.

Wow, they have a lot of different yikes. So his

standard I'm trying to see if I can find an actual

full body. Okay. This is artwork. That's a book.

Oh God. Editing on this is going to be a nightmare.

Anyway, he has a copy image. I'm sending this

to well, where the hell are you? That's the better

question. Shit. Now I really have to edit this.

God damn it. All right. Well, man, this is going

great great time everybody. Yeah, I know right

106 1 hour 6 minutes 36 seconds. I'm 36 Let's

see here. So yes pull up the little window there

So I just sent you a picture of spike wit wiki

from the original generation 1 cartoon the rest

of his look is he and his dad wear yellow boots.

So essentially, like, why couldn't Hasbro also?

No, no, dude. It makes it worse. It makes it

worse. Don't. That's no, that is not the way

that that is not the way. I just sent him a picture

of me. I tried smiling for the selfie series.

Think it looks a little bit more like me, but

it's even more horrifying because it's a blank

stare. Okay, so Alright so yeah, don't know No,

no. No. So yeah, he sent me that and I'm about

to just recoil in horror And it's not because

of Josh it's because of how this this 3d stuff

does to our faces but like Yeah, I'm looking

at your actual face on your profile picture with

your your killer tomato Image with your green

bandana. Mr. Raphael like you look nothing like

the images that it is producing out at like I

will actually put your images into the Into the

post for this podcast episode so people can see

what you've done. This is always fine. This isn't

you It's them. It's whatever process they are

using to capture that 3d stuff. It's bad Because

you the human look nothing like you Whatever

the fuck that hits So like Josh said we have

kind of fallen off topic like we tend to do around

here at toy cast and like I said You know coming

up. We've got a couple of origins episodes and

things like that and Yeah, I mean, we've had

a fun old time. It's going to be a nightmare

for me to edit this, but it is what it is because

I caused my own problems. And yeah, so once again,

thank you to Alex for sending me the Transformers

War for Cybertron Kingdom Commander Clastrotomus.

You rock, dude. That was so awesome of you. Very

unexpected, and it did very much make my day.

And yeah, Josh, you want to say anything to the

people before we close it out? I think one of

the things I wanted to talk about during this

episode were And we briefly talked about it.

I think just our brains weren't working What

were some of the things that we maybe played

with that came out during the Halloween season?

What were some of the things that we were interested

in? Well, we've got Halloween episodes that are

gonna come so Are we still recording another

one? I assume not tonight, but Yes not tonight

but no this is episode so i just got a whole

section of this podcast because i was saying

what was coming up next i was completely incorrect.

I said what was coming up next is episode one

sixty one because i lost my brain and my marbles

and everything else this currently what you're

listening to is episode one fifty nine so the

next episode will be one sixty obviously. Now

back to the show. I mean, say what you were going

to say. I'm sorry to interrupt, but. Oh, I think

what's interesting about toys and I really wish

I did a little bit more time reflecting and thinking

about what did I fall into? What were some opportunities

like in a state sale I had where I bought this

big box of toys that was a mix of accessories

and toys that that I still have some of these

very day, some that I sold, some that meant a

lot. And I think when it comes to toys, if you

have an opportunity, you should always try to

take it if it's something unique or interesting.

Don't let it pass by if you're a collector. It's

something that you can always sell and move later.

But when I've gone to garage sales, when I've

gone to thrift stores, I went to a thrift store.

Let me tell one more quick story. Go ahead. So

when my wife and I moved out to this area, we

went to a thrift store that just opened up. It's

called Sparrow's Nest or something. It's not

too far from here. And went in and I looked in

one bin and I found what was very clearly a Ziploc

bag of G .I. Joe accessories, which if you like

G .I. Joe's, you know those accessories are very

valuable. And I kept digging, I kept digging.

I found G .I. Joe's, I found Transformers, I

found play sets, I found vehicles. and I spent

maybe 75 bucks that day and I walked out with

just boxes and bags and it was one of the most

exciting things I ever got to do as a collector

and a reseller and someone who really enjoyed

that stuff and even just going through it so

you never know what you're going to find and

I think falling into toys I think the most exciting

part of it is just you fall into it when you

don't know what you're gonna find and when you're

gonna find it and what you can do with it and

it's really kind of cool that way. absolutely

I completely agree even though I'm at that time

in my life now where I'm just like I just want

the damn thing whatever the damn thing is that's

what I want however the whole searching and looking

and hunting and like you said specifically to

like what like you're talking about flea markets

and yard sales and things like that looking for

stuff that you don't like like you and your four

dollar voice thing Now I'm the one bringing it

up. See what you did to me. You made me toxic

about it God turning me into a toxic fan overnight

rider car. I never had asshat Anyway, but yeah,

I mean that's the yeah That's kind of the point

of this this little segment and we can kind of

keep this up each year to figure it out Hey,

did you notice I didn't say anything during the

whole time? Yes. I know. Thank you all my fault

I get it. I bring the problems on myself. I understand

So, you know. That's fine. You bring the problems

on yourself. That way, I don't have to take credit

for them. Yeah, well, I'm still going to blame

you anyway. That's fine. So, yeah, no, you're

right. Like, if you're going around to these

places and you're just kind of, you know, looking

around and you stumble onto something, that's

a toy you fell into. That's something cool. That's

something awesome. Like I said earlier. With

the the the buying six dollars of diet dr. Pepper

that I barely even drank any of those three 20

ounce bottles just to get the the UPC codes to

get the Little sweet Justin Guarini Funko pop

which that was the only way you could get that

was going through that doctor the diet dr. Pepper

contest thing So basically I got that for like

I don't know after Whatever the yeah so the price

of the soda and then the free fun go pop so six

dollars and 43 cents which would you know it's

not that bad but yeah i mean it's always awesome

to have stories of oh hey i remember this or

oh hey i don't remember how i got this but somehow

it just is here and it's one of my favorite characters

and you know all that good stuff so I think we

are going to close it out before either one of

us do any more things that I have to edit out.

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