10 Years Of Altered Geek And The Stuff That Entertains Us!

Hey, this is David Kaye and you're listening

to the GeekCast radio network You are tuned in

to Steve Megatron on Altered Geek Hi, this is

David Kaye and you're listening to Altered Geek

geek geek Geek. Geek. Hello and welcome to Altered

Geek. I'm your host Steve Megatron Phillips.

In this episode, joining me for this special

momentous episode is Mike Booth Ninja Powers.

Hello. I am back again. Again. Yay. And joining

us from the other side of the internet is TFG1

Mike. I'm always here. I know. It's okay. He's

like, I live here. One of these days, I'll stop

saying I'm back. Like, you're here. I mean, you

know, you're just here. You exist. You matter.

Right. You know, exactly. You keep saying that

he's back, folks, like he's going to leave us

again. Hey, listen, I'm as shocked as everybody

else is listening that I'm here. For the fourth

time third time fourth time. I don't know how

many times something like that No, but it's like

I said last time like I've said every time since

since you came back It's been fun and honestly

less stress for us Having to do this show every

two weeks instead of every single week Because

some episodes in the last ten years Well, we

were floundering well the last two years, I would

say, just because, like, geek culture and news

has kind of gotten very volatile, you could say.

And so it's made it difficult to converse on

some of geek culture without, you know, it's

made it difficult to navigate anyway. So that

and there really hasn't been all that much that

I've been enthusiastic about Over the last year

or two, I mean it's just been kind of meh Yeah

Like nothing to reinvent the wheel nothing creative.

It's kind of just that's just keep going with

the flow of how things have been going and there's

really no altering keep them It it's very much

been in a stagnant place and that's Due to a

lot of things obviously that's due to the pandemic

that's due to the strikes now with Hollywood

and all of that and everything else and yeah,

and We've said it time and time before you and

I talk about this all the time Steve If we're

not into it, we're not gonna we're probably most

likely not gonna record like if we're like There

have been plenty of times where you and I have

talked over the past 15 years that we've known

each other that Either one of us is sick or the

other one doesn't feel like it or the other one

doesn't feel like they can contribute it. And

it's like, okay, fine. Let's, let's skip to next

week or let's skip to the next day or whatever

works. And, but 10 years of this show, holy crap,

you guys. Well, honestly, I can't, I can't be

really counted in that. Holy crap part because

for the first like. You were kind of the reason

that pushed me into it, though. Yeah. Why? OK.

But OK, but no more so than like giving Mike

the name for the pullback bag. Like it's it like

I was there. I was like, you know, you and I

were like, took it upon ourselves to sit down

and like record and like and start this thing.

But I don't even remember like when I started

like. But was I doing it regularly with you until

I moved? I can't. I feel like I. Yeah. We were

safely say that you were because I have listened

to the first years episodes. I've listened to

the first 30 episodes of the show from way back

10 years ago because I wrote up a whole post

10 years of altered geek where I've highlighted

various episodes and most of the ones I'm highlighting

the Batman Superman battles the very first episode

another one you had just moved into the house

and you were getting it set up for your your

entertainment and the wiring. And yes, I can

say you were in Burton, I think. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, I like I remember like, you know,

Steve coming over and we tried it out, the video

portion of it. And I remember switching to the

audio. I'm just saying, like, I, I it that whole

thing just seems like it's weird to say, like,

especially with like the time dilation of covid,

the whole thing just feels like a lifetime ago.

Yeah, maybe a decade ago. Yeah. And so it's like,

it's like, man, I can't remember. Like, and it's

been so long since I've sat down and like regularly

done something that it just it just makes it

that makes it seem even longer since I like contributed.

It probably was when I moved down here that that

I stopped like regularly contributing. And but

I just I don't know when I get like this. funk

right now. Like, it's not really a funk. I just

get in these like spurts where I completely disconnect

with like everything else. And like for right

now, I'm like kind of exercising a little more.

And so that makes me like not want to play video

games. So I haven't played video games in like

a month and a half. Oh, wow. Like I exercise.

And this happened in 2015, too, when I was like

trying to do the whole couch to 5K thing. Like

I would exercise for 30 to 45 minutes a day and

then I would want to do more productive stuff

than sit on the couch like in play video games,

but anyways, that's neither here nor there but

like yeah, it's I Can't believe I've been a part

of something for 10 years so Yeah, I know you

were at least on through 2015 Because you were

in the 100th episode. I'm scanning the episode

153 years of the show To see if you were on that

if I don't remember if you were on that episode

or not I don't think you were because other I

know you were all of I know I was on in the fall

of 2016 and then again in the fall of like 2017

I think I kept showing up like on the anniversaries.

Yeah Hey, you know, that's cool Yeah, but funny

how fairness This is usually Mike reminding me

that there's an anniversary of some podcast that

I was coming up into I want to be don't want

to take part in it Or do you just want to do

something? Like if it's your show, let's do something

with whatever show was that you know what I mean?

Like Can you imagine how many hits that our website

we get if if powers? Danner and read and Sean's

he all got back together and went off the cuff

again Man, we'd have so many downloads and ending

funny I've I've thought about the whole off -the

-cuff thing like here and there in the last like

few years But it just comes down to like I don't

want to be the one to wrangle everyone together

Like and that's and like I said like I've said

this before like I wanted to do that whole like

Yeah, stream a video game and have someone come

on and like, you know, talk with me while I play

it. And it just I bought the software about the

hardware and all that stuff. And then I sat down.

I got it all working. I did that trial test with

Joe. And then it just became like I was there

for those nights. You were like, wait, this is

just supposed to. Well, you went live. Sorry,

I'm here. Let's be like. But like afterwards,

it was just like, I don't I don't want to deal

with wrangling anyone's schedule like. and having

to remind people that, you know, tonight's a

recording night or something like that, you know,

like, I don't know, I, and that's kind of the

way that it usually always was. The main host

of the shows that I was doing, so it was like,

I gotta remind everyone, like, is everyone still

available this Wednesday? And it was like, if

you can't, if I can't get more than, you know,

at least one other person, like, it was like,

I don't know. And then I moved down here and

I completely fell out of it because that job

became all consuming. And then, yeah. But now

I'm doing it again. I'm actually really enjoying

it. I've been looking at Potentially buying new

and buying a new microphone. So oh wow What are

you thinking about Well, I'm just gonna go with

another Yeti Okay, the newer the newer edition

of it. Yeah, there's a version that came on I

saw it on Amazon. I was like $150 and it came

with the mic and the desk stand And the pop filter.

So. But right now I'm still just using the the

Nessie that I got in. Jesus piece, was it 2014?

I think I got it. I have a blue blue Nessie that

works. Well, apparently it still works really

well, so it's like why get another one, but.

But usually when I start doing something, I want

to buy something that shows some type of investment

in it. That way I keep doing it. You know what?

If you want to do this, you're more than welcome

to. You don't have to. But in 2020, when we launched

Studio 2009, I brought podcast approach, which

is 30 questions about listening to and producing

podcasts. So we've talked to various podcasting

people that we've known over the years and we've

asked them these questions. One of the questions

is, what do you do when your equipment breaks

down or when it, whatever, do you buy the same

stuff or do you upgrade? And most people will

upgrade for me. Luckily in 15 years, I actually

tried upgrading my microphone to the exact same

one I already had. Got the brand new thing home

cuz all is the old one was missing was the USB

cord I got the whole thing home plugged it in

everything else got on with Steve and Steve's

like it sounds like shit It's the same damn thing.

It's the same damn whatever. I'm like, okay Give

me give me like 10 seconds. So I took all as

I did because I have the same cad u37 all as

I did was take the new USB cord off the brand

new $40, $50 microphone I bought, put it on the

one I had since 2010, and this baby just doesn't

wanna knock on wood. Did you just buy another

USB cord? No, what I did was I bought the whole

mic, I figured, because I couldn't find this

at the time. Karen and I were moving, or we were

doing something where the stuff was packed up.

And I couldn't find it. And I'm like, crap. So

I just went on whatever website I went on, and

I bought a brand new CAD U37. It came in black

instead of silver this time. And yeah, when I

hooked it up, I said, how do I sound, Steve?

And I basically had the same settings that I

have on this one currently. And you go, it sounds

like crap. There's some sort of whizzing in the

back. There's something with them. I'm like,

OK, fine. So because I had lost the cord for

the old one, Well, really if it's just a USB

cord like couldn't you just buy a new USB cord

Yeah, but I don't know it was It was a it was

one of the weird data. It's one of the weird

you it's kind of like, you know most iPhones

Thankfully that European law is making iPhones

go USB see but that's the whole other thing I

mean if there's ever a cable that you're looking

for price has every single cable ever made Yeah,

the mono price is great. But that website is

a black hole for me because I will go on there

and be like, oh, I need to get a good HDMI cable.

It's going bad. I need to get another one. Or

I need one that's three feet longer. Yeah, or

a little bit longer. And then I end up buying

all brand new ethernet cables and HDMI cables

for everything connected to my entertainment

center. And for no reason. It just I just keep

I go out there to buy one cable. I walk out with

like 15 I forget when it was but it's been in

the last two years Because I it wasn't just you

that I that I remembered talk always talking

about the mono price website I've heard it from

many other people in the past But you were the

main one that I remember always hearing you talk

about that website and I'm like At the time Karen

was still alive. I said hey Let's get a mount

for the TV and blah, blah, blah, blah. And then

everything happened. She passed away. And at

some point in between her passing away and me

moving here to Indiana from Washington, I ended

up going on Monoprice and buying a mount for

the TV. And now the TV is mounted in the bedroom.

I mean, all my mounts are Monoprice. Yeah. No,

absolutely. Yeah. But why would I pay 15? I'll

pay $15 for a mountain instead of 50 50 to $100

with that Best Buy wants for a mount. So yeah,

it's ridiculous. Yeah, I'm definitely an Amazon

shopper. So. So what's everyone ever been up

to? It's been two. Yeah, it's been a month, three

weeks. Yeah, it's been a month, a month, three

weeks, something like that. Steve, what are you

doing? Have you really finally perfected your

3D printing skills yet? I have with the PLA plastic.

I've begun experimenting with PETG, which is

supposed to be more resistant to heat and warping.

and add a little bit more flexibility so it's

not as rigid. So it's kind of like a combination

of mixing the PLA and the ABS, which ABS is oil

-based, more durable plastic, which they use

for most action figures and things like that.

And PLA is plant -based. So funny enough, I was

reading an article on Facebook from a Star Trek

3d printing model group or whatever and somebody

threw the parts for a 3d print that they started

like three four years ago when They've gotten

some 3d prints with that plastic and It was in

a ziplock bag. So there's no airflow Wow so What

happens to the PLA plastic unlike ABS which is

much harder to break down? PLA plastic is made

to be biodegradable So their plastic stuff had

warped and there was like this goo in the bottom

of the bag Because the PLA started breaking down

because it didn't have airflow and it didn't

have you know, just normal house conditions like

humidity is gonna, you know set it off or heat

or things like that. So I'm kind of playing around

with the PETG, but it requires also setting the

temperature hotter on the nozzle and on the print

bed to adhere it. And I will say that where I

had all the issues with the PLA plastic not sticking

to the bed, I have the opposite problem of trying

to pry the plastic off. Oh, jeez. And I say that

because I've only tried printing a couple of

things with it. And I think in order to print,

because everything I've been printing so far

has printed fine, but it's been on PLA settings.

If I go to print something on this, I'm going

to have to go into the software and set it up

so that it auto kind of sets the temperatures

for everything for when I print it. The next

goal is to try and print the Enterprise G again.

I printed it with the PLA plastic with the separations

in it so that it would take less time to print.

But I've figured out since then how to print

the entire model without having to glue a bunch

of parts together. So I'm going to attempt that

with this This other plastic but the the nice

part is the plastic is like a light gray instead

of a dark gray So I actually will be able to

Add the paint details. I want to do the the aztec

in to the the whole plating and paint it and

I Won't have to paint as much Whereas if it's

like a totally wrong color, I'll have to paint

the entire thing. So So anyways, I've been playing

around with that. I printed a couple of successful

prints, mostly badges and starships. I've printed

transformer add -ons. I printed Legacy Inferno's

Flamethrower this last week. Very cool. And that

was one of the ones that I tried printing when

I got the printer and it failed miserably. I've

since figured out that if it's something that

has a part that hangs off in a particular location

you print it with um tree supports is what it's

called and it prints these like hollow pieces

that are brittle that Basically are there So

the printer has something to grab on to when

it starts printing that layer where it's kind

of an overhang And then when you're done printing

you just snap them off Awesome. So yeah, but

I got that that um, idw megatron printed it came

out pretty well Surprisingly And then Yeah, so

I mean I've been printing and doing a lot of

that stuff so I'm still kind of experimenting

I'd like to Try and figure out how to 3d model

At some point so I can print my own custom creations

rather than swiping what somebody else has done

Mostly because I'm still working on a custom

Megatron figure, but if I can do it myself, that

would be great. So, but it's not running right

now. I've discovered, like when I print PLA plastic,

it gets really warm in the office with the door

closed. When I print PETG, it's super hot. So

I need to not be in the room when it's on because

my computer already gets warm and bad and the

door closed. There's no air flow. So it's Yeah,

not not pretty fun. So OK, it's not really dawned

on me until just you're just having this conversation

now. But like so the plans that you're using

for the 3D printer. Yes. Are they like? I'm assuming

they're all like that. You can find them on the

Internet for free and then you feed them into

the system and it prints it up for you. OK, so

I it dawned on me that this has to like. kill

the model industry. Oh, yeah. What's funny is

I was buying Star Trek badges. Like the the metal,

some of them were plastic, some of them were

crap quality. And I've been printing the badges

I don't have, like because I've got a decent

amount of them that are in die cast. But like

there was a ton that I was missing. Like I don't

have various newer. Star Trek badges and I kind

of collect those I always have so I started printing

those and I just paint them Polar lights, which

is a part of like rebel and like the The the

model ship companies that make all the model

cars and everything They They've even said that

they're not making any newer Star Trek models

Which is good and bad because I have one from

that company that I got of the the enterprise

from like discovery and The plastic I feel like

I mean unless you want to put light kicks light

kits into these things I feel like the plastic

is kind of crappier than my 3d prints Is it is

it weird that they don't offer because I feel

like a couple okay, so I don't know who makes

the plans and puts them up for free, right? But

I feel like an actual model company could probably

get their hands on legit production resources

and make or sell a better 3D print plan than

possibly what somebody could just on the internet

willy -nilly. It's just weird to me to think

that, oh, if I had one, I would never have to

go to a model kit store and purchase a model

kit ever again. Like you said, you were printing

out the sections of the enterprise and gluing

them together. It's when you said that, I was

like, oh my God, the model kit industry is no

more. Because you probably think that kind of

goes hand in hand, right? If you're into building

models, you probably like the idea of being able

to 3D print your stuff. Well, yeah, I mean I

I have the like I said I have like the the discovery

enterprise and It don't gonna be wrong like part

of it's nice in the sense that Like it's all

there. It's all like perfectly shaped like I

mean unless your printer, you know 3d printing

it requires you to do some sanding or some Smoothing

out depending on how it's printed or and it depends

on who models it like if they're Not very good

at 3d modeling Well, that's what I'm saying like

these it will print well, but the the people

that know what they're doing Are printing it

themselves But they're selling the kits To assemble

so like the enterprise G for instance. There's

a I think it's called Horner shipyards on Facebook

and the guy Created his own like he he somehow

got an animation model of it And recreated it

and then he hollowed out parts of it and it's

you know, it's just through trial and error stuff

and he's got a bunch of 3d printers and Made

it so that you can put a light kit in it and

everything else and They sell these ships like

the kits and they sell like special, you know

water slide decals that you can put on it and

They're Like the the guy that created the ship

for the show bought one from the guy Because

there was no other way to make it like he kind

of kitbashed parts together and kind of custom

molded it and kind of gave the idea to the the

studio but like as far as having a physical ship

that was Pretty much spot -on like he didn't

have it. So this this group printed him one and

he decked it out with the paint and the decals

and it looked like it came right off the screen

and so Yeah, I feel like with people doing this

now we're gonna see less of the model ships in

the stores granted the only time I see them is

either in like Joanne's Michaels or Hobby Lobby

or in Walmart around Christmas time Interesting

Well, yeah, but it's not even like the ships

either like model cars Yeah, like I mean all

that like no industry you can if you can find

them. That's the thing like Star Trek is like

hugely popular and so, you know, you're gonna

find a million different renditions of ships

On there some good some bad like i've tried printing

an enterprise e a couple of times and depending

on how they model it it either works or doesn't

and I've not had good luck with that so I just

kind of stopped printing it but the Enterprise

G and some of the original ships and things like

that they come out fine or like Beast Wars like

I've got a stasis pod from the show and that's

because this group that makes all these transformer

add -ons or like base components or you know

these um you know base building type stuff accessories

that You know, like if you would have had Batman

or Ninja Turtles back in the 90s or 80s, they

would have had their bases or had their vehicles

or things like that. So you've just got a lot

of influx of fans creating a business, a side

business, creating add -ons or fixes for things

that companies just are too cheap to do. It's

just interesting to me that and I kind of get

why they wouldn't do it. Like like I said, like

it's interesting to me that they don't try to

like. Because you said you said that the the

enterprise E that you have like the no discovery

that you have was like Chinse. Like the plastic

was like Chinse. Oh, yeah. So it's just interesting

to me that the actual companies, the companies

themselves. And like I said, I get why they do

and I'll get there. I get why they don't do this

and I'll get there in a second. But it's interesting

to me that they didn't try to like like, OK,

so they're not going to come into a store and

buy our box model pieces. But OK, so let's like

sell online the digital file to be able to 3D

print one your own. And then you can choose whatever

plastic you want to print it out of. You can

make it as good as you or as bad as you want

it to be. You know, but like it at least comes

from a company that has the resources to um adequately

make the plan but Then again the answer is the

same self because it's the same thing that's

happened with movies and music the second the

second one person buys that Blueprint for you

know, like whatever they want to charge for it.

We'll just say like five bucks just for fun That's

probably the last five bucks. They'll see of

it because that guy i'll just throw that blueprint

up on On a on a website for everyone to go and

grab, you know, so it's like You're you're damned

if you do and you're damned if you don't it's

just it's just it's just interesting to me that

We you now have the ability. We now have the

ability and I never even thought about it, but

we now have the ability to Early print model

kits in our home like you would get a book on

a Kindle Mm -hmm, and there isn't a comp. There

isn't like a big like hurdle ATM rebel. They're

not Selling the plans for that because obviously

they can't But I mean, but then again if you

think about it if you can find a way to frickin

make a Kindle work like Amazon still sells books

to fight the fact despite the fact that You know,

you can go online and torrent whatever book you

want people still buy them So there's there's

always a there's a market for people that's gonna

pirate it no matter what and then there's a market

for people that will pay for it for ease of convenience

So since you mentioned books, it's funny you're

talking about this And I know we're talking about

3d printing and I'm not trying to distract from

that but I'm trying to get Steve some information

because I believe October 3rd Patrick Stewart's

memoir making it so will be released the audiobook

version is 16 hours I Don't know if I'd want

to listen to him for 16 hours though He is he

has a good enough voice and you don't like not

even the voice. It's the fact that the dude like

Single -handedly tanked Picard until his cohorts

from TNG came back Like I don't I don't know

if I care to hear his worldview Okay, but yeah,

I mean it's Star Trek. Yeah, you know I Either

way, but yeah, it's It's interesting to see what

is Kind of going on in geek culture now with

you know, fans are like, oh the company is too

cheap to make it We'll do it ourselves. Yeah

Well, just because we jumped on that train for

a second and did you say that Picard or the Patrick

Stewart book comes out in October? Mm -hmm Yeah,

there's another there's another book that's coming

out that I don't think a lot of people know about

but it's from It's a new book from Bill Watterson

Hmm The guy that did Calvin and Hobbes Okay So

that comes out in August I pre I pre -ordered

it forever ago and I can't I can't seem to find

it to be able to tell anybody what the name of

it is but all I saw was Bill Watterson I was

like click Because I am huge Calvin and Hobbes

fan so So what have you been up to bike Same

stuff different day. Oh He freaked me out this

morning that was fun You were freaked out I know

nothing about this stuff, that's why I asked

you the question so All right, let's let let

let's go with this then so this morning I get

up and I Open Chrome and I usually have the same

Anywhere from 11 to 16 tabs open, but I you know

usually close the thing down every night after

you know, whatever after I'm done So I open it

up and I've got like the last seven Various pages

on geek cast radio comm open and every single

one of them is giving me an error message saying

please try again later this site can't be reached

blah blah blah blah blah so i took a screenshot

and keep in mind i'm well you you and i both

mic are in the eastern time zone so this is five

six thirty seven thirty in the morning which

steve is two hours behind us so i was awake i

was out i was i was attempting to work out and

mary was like stop messing with it So, I just

said something like, hey, is the site doing,

is WordPress doing maintenance, is something

doing, what's going on here? You're like, I don't

know, oh, okay. You hear back, I don't know,

15, 20 minutes later, oh, it's something with

this, this, or this, and let me know if it changes.

I'm like, oh, okay, what was it, like an hour

and a half? Hour and a half or so later. Something

like that. Fixed itself or the site service or

whatever it was, whatever the hell it is. But

yeah, I was like, well, crap, I guess I'm not

doing any podcast stuff today other than editing,

because if we can't reach the website, then we

can't do anything in the back end. Freaked you

out. I wasn't trying to freak you out. Well,

then I was trying to figure it out. And then

it dawned on me that it was the entire account.

Like, because to begin with, I thought it was

just a website. Yeah, it wasn't just our account.

It's Steve's account. Well, I have multiple websites

hosted on the same account. So I wasn't sure

if it was across the board or if it was one or

yeah. So I had no idea. And then I was attempting

to do a backup restore. And I'm like, man, I

hope that database isn't, you know, really screwed.

And and then I managed to calm down enough to

think about it and I was like, oh, I should probably

check and seeing if they're having an outage.

And they were. But that's like the first, like

I've seen error messages on our website before,

but that's the first time I saw that one. And

I'm like, um, question. So that happened. Let's

see what else. I've been making more podcast

guest appearances on other people's shows that

I don't have to work on. It's kind of like Mike

over there. He just shows up and he talks, which

is great. Fine. I don't mind doing all the work.

That's fine by me. It makes no difference. You

don't sound bitter about it at all. No, not me.

No, I'm not that but again, I have no life I

sit here 19 and a half hours out of the day working

on some form of podcasting whether it's writing

descriptions or Editing or whatever. So that's

that's just what I do. I'm not bitter at all

about it Which is funny because I was going to

offer to you and I can't believe I'm doing this

on air If you want to get the band back together

Just tell me what day and what time and I'll

remind everybody I'll be the I'll be the taskmaster

that gets everybody back together No If I'm not

willing to put in if I'm not willing to put in

the work, I'm not gonna ask anybody else put

in the work so So yeah, I've been making more

appearances on other people's shows I've been

on Steve's brother Captain ruggles gaming Kevin

he He does his own streaming on YouTube, but

he also works with Kai Dragon Media So Steve

and I have been on that a couple of times. I've

been on there a couple of times without Steve

I was on the Mike Cybert radio podcast and we

talked about the Existential dread of TF2 on

Mike. So that's three and a half hours that no

one will listen to He smirks, but if I Sit there

and tell him hey, I went and did this podcast

the first quit How long is it if I say anything

under an hour and a half? He'll tune out Or anything

over an hour and a half he'll tune out But yeah,

so I've been doing that and just kind of gearing

up for some anniversaries This December is 15

years since I started We've got this 10 year

anniversary for Altered Geek. Steve's got 15

years of all things Transformers this month.

Yeah, that's pretty much all I've been known.

All right. Well, let's see. What have I been

doing? Yeah, what have you been doing? Well,

I'm counting down the days until I can order

a new phone because it's getting to be that time

of year. What are you going with? You going with

the Pro or the Pro Max? I have a Pro Max right

now and it is way too big and way too heavy.

OK, so I got the Pro Max because I I had just

a regular pro and I was kind of like, I kind

of want to try just something different. And

I'm reading a lot of stuff. I was using Tweetbot

and Facebook. And I thought, you know, just having

like a bigger screen would be a lot nicer just

to be able to see more like at one time. And

that was fine. And it was going well right up

until, you know, December 31st when I decided

to stop using social media. And then I realized

I'm carrying around this giant heavy candy bar.

And I'm literally just I'm not looking at it

anymore. I'm using it to play music or to play

a podcast. I'm not. Yeah, I'm not I'm not reading

out anymore. So I was like, no, well, don't want

and I've been it's taken like every ounce of

me to not find a way to just get a regular 14

pro. But. Was like I'm just gonna wait and hopefully

like all the rumors like pan out this year with

it being made out of titanium So that will make

it a lot lighter because it's made out of stainless

steel right now, which makes it really heavy

But I'm not even kidding the weight discrepancy

between my phone and my wife's phone You you

might as well not even be holding anything when

you grab my wife's phone Like it blows me away.

So it's like a piece of paper somebody threw

a piece of paper on top of me That's how thin

it is. That's how light it is. Yeah, it's I I'm

surprised I haven't gained muscle mass from lugging

this phone around So yeah, I'm just going back

to the regular 14 Pro or the 15 Pro and So I'm

looking forward to that and I'm gonna I talked

to my wife about I'm gonna end up getting a new

watch too. So so just counting down the days

to that event because I love watching those events

and Just recently I went back and I watched all

of the events that Steve Jobs was able to do

before he passed away and I That dude I've always

said this about him. He that dude was a hell

of a salesman. He was yes, there is a huge difference

between the Conferences that he would put on

and the conferences that Apple puts on now and

it like it just made me like I I don't do the

whole like I Have a role model or I look up to

this person or anything like that But if someone

like gun to my head someone told me to like pick

someone like and I know I've read I've read the

autobiographies and I know the dude in his personal

life and whatnot was an a -hole but If I had

a gun in my head, I'd pick Steve Jobs. I like

the fact that when he set out to try to do something,

he surrounded himself with the people that would

get it done and didn't tolerate the people that

didn't want to do. I just liked everything about

at least his public forward persona. I really

liked that. dig all the stuff that he did for

Pixar and just in general. And like I said, he

was a hell of a salesperson. Like there was only

one Apple item that he like failed to like sell

me on. And it was like the iPod boombox thing

that they had. I don't remember what it was called.

I just remember it was like this giant, it was

literally like a giant white Apple boombox that

you'd think somebody would be carrying on their

shoulder in the 80s. It wasn't it wasn't the

iPod. It wasn't the speaker dock for the old

iPod touches, right? It was no, no, no, no. This

was this was for the original iPod. Like, oh,

OK. It was this giant white and the speakers

didn't fire out the front. They fired up the

side. And then there's a there's a dock on the

top of it to like stick an iPod on and it just

protruded out the top. And it was like that.

I'm sorry. That is the dumbest thing I've ever

seen. So. But anyway, so I'm just excited for

I like I like watching the events even though

they're not as good as they were but and I automatically

know I'm gonna spy buy a new phone every year

my wife always I Always do the thing where it's

like, all right, this could be my last one This

is gonna be my last one. My wife always looks

at me like, okay We both know that's a lie You

don't have to keep saying that. Yeah, it's okay.

We understand Was it the iPod hi -fi? Yes Okay,

yeah this thing is ugly as hell. I'm gonna post

this here in the chat so you guys can, I mean

Mike you know what it looks like, but in case

you don't know. The one thing I will say though,

it's like, yep that was it. Steve sold an experience.

Yes, he did. And Apple sells a product now. Yep.

Like he never, he got up on stage, he never talked

about He talked about what it was like to use

the device. He didn't tell you. Like I don't

I don't know how to explain it, but you guys,

I think the way that Steve Jobs made the presentation

was that he made it feel like the products that

Apple was making from the point of the time that

he introduced the iPhone was that this is a product

for your lifestyle. Apple, since his passing,

has not necessarily lost the lifestyle stuff,

but Tim Cook is no Steve Jobs. Tim Cook is Tim

Cook. He is whatever he is. I don't want, honestly,

ever since Steve passed, I've been watching YouTube

reviewers and tech YouTubers and those people

give me like, yeah, I still kind of check out

the For any company not just Apple I still kind

of check out the keynotes and things like that

or the you know galaxy Unpacks or Google IOs

or whatever they you know, whatever they call

their stuff. I still check it out But I would

rather hear from somebody like Marques Brownlee

or Mr. Who's the Boss or Mr. Mobile Michael Fisher.

I would rather hear from various people that

I've been watching for the last two or three

years talk about these products than try to have

the companies sell me on them. Yeah, I get that.

I get that. I think for me it's just a force

of habit. Yeah, that was absolutely correct.

Yes, it is a force of habit, but I'm just saying

since like Steve was the ultimate Salesperson

he was but he wasn't like he was selling you

on Like you were saying earlier, you're selling

the experience. Yeah, so experience not necessarily

Hey buy this this iPod whatever because we knew

yeah Yeah, like so and this is going to sound

kind of dumb, but I and I've watched this keynote,

but it goes all the way back to when he first

introduced the first I book like in I think it

was like 2001 or something like that. And it

was like when they had that, it was that it looked

like a toilet bowl lid, but it was like way more

way more plastic than it needed. But it had like

all the big you could forget like orange and

blue and green and all that. So it looked like

an IMAQ, but like a notebook. Right. But the.

It was like when Wi -Fi was like first taking

off that he got up on stage with a hula hoop

and was like, look, it's all wireless. Like nobody

else like. Yeah, it's OK. That's pure showmanship.

But like nobody else has sold Wi -Fi that way.

You know what I'm saying? Like it. Everyone says,

oh, it's wireless. It just talks to something

somewhere like Steve actually just got up there.

It's a very funny video to watch, like in retrospect

when you think like. You know, like why would

you do that now? No one would do that now, you

know what I'm saying? Like Yeah, no because nobody

is selling you the lifestyle of the product.

They're selling you the product now because they

want the money Yeah Steve was about the money

probably in like the back end of it kind of thing

or but when he was on that stage He was the showman

You know and like you said everything you did

for for Pixar and all that and just great great,

dude but And then let's see so I'm counting down

those days and then I got I actually did end

up seeing two movies the first one I actually

went and saw the Barbie movie Mm -hmm. It was

fantastic But I knew it was going to be fantastic

because I saw that it was ticking off all the

right people on the internet Yeah And I I absolutely

loved it and my wife loved it too. So got to

see that I am bummed that I can't pre -order

it yet for some reason Pre -ordering it on or

what do you want to pre -order it on? I'm trying

to pre -order the the 4k blu -ray and oh it's

not up anywhere. Well, no, sorry. Let me rephrase

that because I hear someone probably trying to

go and search for it right now. Best Buy does

have a pre -sale for the 4K disc, but not a steelbook.

Oh, you want the best? Yeah. Yeah, I try to only

buy my books now if they come with a steelbook.

That's usually how I... Yeah, if I can't get

the steelbook version of it, I probably won't

get a physical version of it Because you know,

I've got solar panels on my house and I've got

a tankless hot water heater So I'm all about

being eco -friendly, but man, I love wasting

steel Nothing So I remember the I remember the

old days of going to Best Buy this was was it

was it Transformers or was it revenge of the

fall? One of one of the first two live -action

films for Transformers had a Best Buy Steelbook

edition and For their exclusive because that's

what Best Buy always has for their exclusive

half the time and I went and I got it I'm like,

oh, this is so cool. This is the only way to

own physical media media Wow, me too. What the

fuck was that? God, I can't talk tonight. Well,

sidebar to the conversation, because you say

it's the only way to own physical media, right?

Did you see the story about the Disney selling

the selling WandaVision? No, I probably heard

about it in passing, but go ahead and tell me

the story. Disney is going to sell you so that

you can own WandaVision just in case they ever

take it off of Disney Plus. They put up for pre

-order the ability to pre -order WandaVision

and it comes with a steel book. But guess what?

It comes with a digital copy code. No disk. No

disk. It is a steel book for digital code. Oh

my god, that's... Wait, wait. Okay, so I had

to Google this and inside the magic is Disney's

website and the article says Disney will no longer

be selling physical Marvel DVDs. Are you kidding

me? I don't even need to read the rest of the

article. I can just read the title there and

I'm just like, okay. Let's hope they never remove

the stuff from Disney Plus. Also good. Well,

I mean, it's just a matter of time. I'm right

true But going back to what we were going to

Best Buy to buy stuff though. I remember I wanted

the steel book for Black Panther Wakanda forever

and I had pre -ordered the version that I wanted

but I wasn't getting any type of notification

that it had shipped except it had come out and

I Saw that they still had my order So I was like,

oh, let's go to my local Best Buy and I'll see

if they if they have it and I'll pick it up And

I hadn't been in the Best Buy store in a while,

but they didn't even have a movie section anymore.

It was it was. But what was weird is they had

signs up that said, oh, Wakanda forever on 4K

Blu Ray, but they had no movie section. I had

video games like you could still go in there

and buy game consoles, controllers, video games

like on the, you know, a box copy of a video

game, but. no movies i was like oh well dang

yeah dang so it just i don't know i i live on

the edge of i have some physical media still

but i haven't had a dvd tv shows on dvd or film

animation whatever dvd collection or blu -ray

or whatever since 2011 I've got several blu -rays

now because I have I do have a 4k uh side note

did we lose steve yes it's okay it's fine we're

just going to keep going he'll be back his uh

his computer Steve needs to go to apple and get

a mac because apparently windows does this every

time uh if he says Probably gonna edit all this

out But if I disappear just keep going and I'll

rejoin my computer is frizzing out and trying

to send trees trying to salvage it So the iPod

hi -fi picture killed his computer Now you can't

edit this out Ten years of altered geek if we

weren't unplugged we would be unlimited so But

yeah, no, I remember from 2007 to 2012, I remember

going to Best Buy every single time. And this

is going to tie into one of our other conversations,

but I'm just going to use this as an example

now since I mentioned those years. I remember

being at Best Buy and buying Superman Doomsday,

Justice League New Frontier, Batman Gotham Knight.

One like the last one I physically bought was

Justice League doom. Yes, because I did not buy

Superman versus the elite and I have not even

seen Dark Knight Yeah, so we'll talk about that

later once Steve gets back if he comes back Here's

hoping ten years of his own show didn't screw

him over which I don't think it did I think it's

his like we said, it's his computer Well, it's

actually windows. Yeah Windows decides that when

I'm podcasting is the best time to crash because

it wants to install a Windows update. I have

Windows update install stuff between 1 a .m.

and 6 a .m. when I'm not using the computer.

Yeah, I try to do that, but mine's turned off.

Oh, jeez. I don't understand how they have an

update literally every time I turn on a computer.

All right, so we were talking about block but

blockbuster Wow Disney you just went you just

went way back. Yeah, we were talking about Best

Buy. Oh Steve dropped out. You heard about the

WandaVision thing, right Steve? Yes, I did and

I think that's so stupid. I Was like I was half

tempted when I saw that was going up for pre

-order to us half tempted like oh I'm gonna grab

that and then I read it further as a digital

copy. I'm like, yeah That's an instant deterrent

for me. I'm like, I will not buy digital copy

if they're going to give me like, for instance,

Star Trek Strange New Worlds. Season one and

two, both great. Picard season three, great.

I would be more than happy to own those on disc.

Did you hear that Paramount Plus removed seasons

one and two or season one of Prodigy? Well, they

removed season one of prodigy and they they technically

they finished production on season two But they

need to find a new home for it, which is kind

of dumb because they're still touting themselves

as the home of Star Trek. Yeah when they own

Star Trek, why would you pull Star Trek? I know

right like they literally pulled over the last

two years they've pulled every Star Trek show

and film off of Netflix Hulu and Amazon Prime

so that it can be on its home on Paramount Plus,

only to take it away anyway. I think they found

out that that doesn't really work as well as

they thought it would, and not necessarily just

because it's Star Trek, but Warner Bros. was

doing the same thing. They tried to pull all

of their stuff under their umbrella, but now

this new CEO knows that there's more money in

selling that to another streamer than there is

just letting it go. It's like Star Trek 2009

and Into Darkness from JJ Abrams. Both of those

are on Netflix right now. And Beyond is on there

kind of infrequently, but it gets on there occasionally.

But either way, I'm more than happy to use one

of those other avenues to watch the show. But

because I have to subscribe to another one. And

it's their services, I think, kind of subpar.

So I just I don't care to have it, but. Wait

a second. So you mentioned Star Trek Beyond is

kind of sort of infrequently on Netflix. Yeah.

Remember that app you told me about years ago,

my movie, M .A .I. movie? Yeah, I remember that.

I just totally forgot. I've been using it ever

since, yep. Really? Well, that's good to know.

I need to use that. I've been using it ever since

you told me. I will, yeah. So it's, um... Yeah,

it's... What is this? I used it for a short time.

It was a website I found. It's spelled M -A -I

movie. Yep, I remember that now. My movie. And

I've been using it ever since Steve told me about

it. So I've got Star Trek Beyond pulled up on

it. It's available on freebie Amazon channel

and Pluto TV. It's not available on Netflix currently

for free streaming, but you can buy or rent it

from various like Voodoo or Apple. So when it

is like another app that I use. Yeah, it's a

powered movie and TV show search. I mean, I still

use Another one that you let me know about years

ago. Just watch. No, it's show. Oh, I still use

that. Oh, is this is this is the my movie thing

to torrent stuff? No, no, no. This is just to

find where it's at, like where your stuff's at.

The my movie was nice because. It had links automatically

in like if like if you wanted to go buy Star

Trek Beyond on Apple iTunes or Apple movies or

whatever It has a link to every service that

you can purchase Star Trek Beyond on where instead

of having to go to every single website That's

what my movie is great for it has it all in one

place. There's a the app I use does the same

thing. It's called just watch But it's nice too

because you can maybe the other one does this

too, but you can filter it down to the just the

services that you own I Don't know if my movie

can but I don't know 100 % It and also does it

aggregate like the new stuff like when they post

new new stuff and show it to you it Surge but

I can well it also curates based on your watching

habits. Yeah, okay So I'm opening it up right

now and. Totally forgot about it because I used

it for a time and that's usually how things go.

I watch something for a time or use an app or

something and then I kind of just forget about

it. So I've got whatever account I have on here.

Like so basically if I search for like I just

searched like I'll search for Batman vs And it'll

pull up Batman vs. Two -Face, etc, etc, etc It'll

pull up Batman whatever but like whatever I heart

on this thing It will add to my likes or whatever

and it should build from there, but I don't do

it enough I don't heart enough stuff on my movie

because I'm just using it for the searching and

the potential linking of wherever I can go to

get whatever movie or TV show it is that I want

to purchase. Gotcha. But as a yes, you've told

me about that years ago and I've had it on my

when I've had smartphones, I've had it on my

phones ever since. So. All right. Yes, I saw

the Bard movie. I haven't seen Oppenheimer yet.

I really want to see Oppenheimer, but the wife

didn't want to go like opening weekend when it

was out there. And so now it's only on the IMAX

screen at my local theater and that IMAX blows.

So I'm definitely going to be waiting to watch

that one at home, which just like the Bard movie

for some reason, I still can't preorder that

movie either. Yeah, I was looking on Amazon and

they have a listing for it, but since you want

your steel book There is no actual like pre -order

button on Amazon for it for Barbie. I Don't think

there would be one for Oppenheimer either, but

I'll and then this past weekend We went to a

different theater and we saw the new Turtles

movie. Oh It was fun I so again, we went to a

different theater. I think I have to wait until

her final reserve final judgment to watch it

at home. But I did enjoy the movie and even my

wife enjoyed the movie too. So and the other

reason I say I have to wait till like I enjoyed

at home is because I think something was not

right with the theater that we went to. But again,

this is my first time being there, but I don't

think the audio was quite. Right. The entire

time. So we'll wait and see how it, you know,

what it sounds like when I get at home. But the

funny part of that story is I pre -ordered that

movie as soon as we walked out of the out of

the theater. That's funny. Got my book for that.

And the better part, the better thing about all

these pre -orders things that I do, I pre -ordered

into the spite, not into the spider verse across

the spider verse before I went and saw the movie.

Yeah. Okay, whatever. You don't want me to pre

-order it. That's fine. I mean, I'll just keep

checking back. That's the most annoying thing

about it. As soon as I can pre -order it, I'll

forget about it and it will just arrive. That's

what I did with Super Mario Brothers. As soon

as the pre -order was up on Voodoo, I was like,

yep, that's where I want. There's movies that

we want to watch. I have the I Have Transformers

pre -order, but that's not coming until October.

But it's on Paramount Plus, but even my wife

said, I don't want to watch it on Paramount Plus.

It's just like I don't like Paramount Plus. Well,

I mean, we just have issues with the the audio

not being like it's in. And that goes for any

streaming service that we use, like because we

watched like the Batman and we watched Major

Resurrection. When those came out like day and

day when Warner Brothers like first started up

HBO Max and We're like those movies were okay.

I mean we like Batman We knew that we like the

Batman that was that was fine, but it was just

kind of like man I don't think neither one of

those movies like hits like real like Real hard

like you thought it would and then I got the

discs for both of them and the matrix was like

watching a completely different movie Like she

watched it again with me like that's the nice

thing is that she's willing to watch it again

with me on disk and we both looked at each other

like that That that played completely differently

like then you did watching it streaming. So The

fact that my wife can notice something like that

now we just kind of go. Yeah, it's available

to watch but We'll just wait. Yeah, so And we

did see Guardians finally got my Guardians disc

that came The like last week, so I got to see

Guardians 3 which was I Mean People have said

it's the best movie since endgame, but I don't

really think that's setting the bar that high

No, because endgame ended the you know, it was

this ending of the universe kind of thing. And

yeah, there's a whole other the Guardians movies

too They have never really had for some reason.

I don't know what James Gunn had over Kevin Feige,

but for some reason the Guardians movies have

always existed Like outside of The MCU yeah,

like the first one. Yeah, Thanos is there. There's

an infinity stone, but it's still not It still

really has nothing to do with like the larger

picture, right and then The second one has absolutely

nothing to do with the larger picture Which I

really hated at the time because you know, you're

there they're sitting there releasing these movies

just churning their wheels until you can get

to infinity war and end game and so nothing happens

in Nothing meaningful and happens in in volume

two right and then you get to volume three and

it's it again, it doesn't exist in the same like

it exists so far outside the MCU that The Guardians

movies are literally the only trilogy in the

MCU. It was very weird. It was very dark. It's

a lot darker than the first two. And the villain

was way scarier than Thanos ever was. My wife

had a hard time watching it. Interesting. Got

through that. Barbie's turtles the turtles are

really good. I the animation was great as a and

I really I really went to only see it because

of the animation I like this new wave of like

not Not computer animation, but computer animation

like we're going out of our way to not make it

look like a Pixar movie. Yeah That's the other

thing that like just like shocks me about like

movies right now, like Disney. Forgive me if

we've talked about this before, but I don't feel

like Disney and one of the brothers can make

a movie for less than like 200 or 300 million

dollars. Like and then and then you've got people

like into the spider or across the spider verse

was 100 million dollars. And Oppenheimer was

made for 100 million dollars. Barbie was made

for 150 and the new Turtles movie was made for

70. Yeah, but meanwhile, you've got Pixar dropping

200 million dollars on whatever there or that

last movie was elemental. Yeah, and you've got

like No wonder why your stuff is failing your

budgets are out of frickin control. Yeah, like

I Do miss the days of where a film budget was

say anywhere from 50 to 80 thousand dollars Kind

of like the old day. Whoa, man. Yeah, but What

decade are you talking about? 70s 80s something

like that But like when budgets were low, but

the box offices were ended up being really high

now the budgets are so high And some of these

movies like you're saying Just kind of sit Yeah,

it just it just blows my mind like how Like how

mismanaged it all is cuz like I I'm sorry, but

I know I know I guess it's because Christopher

Nolan is known for making like blockbusters like

he made the three Batman movies like but they

weren't even I Don't think he spent two hundred

three hundred million dollars on his Batman movies

and I But maybe it's cuz like this is blockbuster

like thing with Christopher. No, I thought Oppenheimer

was gonna be more than a hundred million dollars

like And and that's just from like seeing a trailer

and it's still just a period piece like there's

not a whole lot that you could do with You know,

it's not a superhero flick or anything like that

But I still thought it like at least when he

spends a hundred million dollars on a movie It's

all on the screen like yeah, you're a superhero

movie You're spending two hundred to three hundred

million dollars and you're doing it in front

of a blue screen. You're doing something wrong

Yeah Just because it was the last thing you said

when I started typing Dark Knight in 2008 had

a hundred eighty five million dollar budget.

It made one point six billion dollars. In 2008,

that was the fall and that was the fallout. But

how much was the first? How much was Batman Begins

like that? Like and so one hundred eighty five.

That's not bad. Like that's not bad at all. Like

that's I don't know. It's these these studios

are out of control with their money. Like I would

love to see. And I know like Snyder's guilty

of it to like all of them are but it it's just

the Because you know that the first Thor and

Captain America weren't made for 200 million

dollars I don't think they're made for a hundred

million dollars like so Batman Begins was had

a budget of 150 150 million in the box office

was three three hundred seventy three hundred

and seventy three point seven million dollars

for Batman Begins Wow Let me see your cap First

Avenger was come on come on come on 140 to 216

point seven million for the budget it made three

hundred and seventy point six million I think

I think that I think everything over that hundred

and forty is the marketing budget so Probably

most likely yes, you are correct. You know, it's

funny That movie would be considered a flop now.

Mm hmm. Look at Rise of the Beasts. First Transformers

live action film that did not break a billion

bucks at the box office. But I also don't think

it had like a huge, huge budget, right? Like

it went to two hundred million. Yeah, that's

see. And that's still fine. Like it's not like,

I don't know. It's just they're out of control.

They're out of control. They don't know how to

spend money. So I guess we can use this to transition

to the thing that I wanted to talk about. Sure.

DC animated. Yay. So I knew like I knew about.

The Flashpoint paradox, like my buddy told me

about it and I watched it, you know, when it

was out in 2013 and I watched. I watched war

just as the war and I watched. Throne of Atlantis

and I liked all those and I kind of thought like

that was it and then you know, I saw like Other

other movies come out like here and there and

I know I shared that list with you guys about

what I wanted to talk about but I didn't know

that they were like all It was all connected

like that. Like I didn't like Basically what

I what I found out this past weekend when I was

I revisited Flashpoint and then I was like I

just want to see what the continuity here is

and I found this article and I did again I was

kind of aware of it but didn't it was like there

in the back of my mind but from 2013 to 2020

they they released 16 movies that were in continuity

with each other. Yep. And it's just like and

I think Steve and I have been saying this from

the beginning of this freaking podcast which

is the animated stuff like why aren't you not

just ripping off and basically reshooting the

live action versions of your animated stuff.

Like do the Disney thing. We don't have any ideas.

Let's do the animation again. But like Disney

is, you know, Disney is going through their animation

catalog to keep their trademarks. They're making

live action versions of this stuff. Like they

should literally just take their animated movies

and make live action versions of them. It's.

I don't get It is I yeah, so I've gone through

I've now seen all all of these on this list But

it was it was astonishing to me that it just

kind of went by the wayside Like I didn't really

hear the internet talking about it much at all

that these things were all like that connected

like it was just it's all been the live action

stuff has been crappy, therefore DC doesn't know

what it's doing. Well, some part of DC does.

Yeah, DC knows what they're doing. They just

don't know what they're doing in live action

because they can't find a good enough foothold

to keep something going kind of thing. I think

because there's too many people at the top that

are interfering with the live action because

they think it needs to be this huge blockbuster

when the animation people, I feel like, are left

alone. But then but I also feel like no one's

like talking to like no one's looking at them.

They're just over there making this like quality

stuff But nobody's like paying attention to it.

Yeah I don't I Originally when the DC Animated

movie original animated movies began they began

as standalone separate things because in 2007

we were a year removed from the DC Animated Universe

to Bruce Timm Universe, ending with Justice League

Unlimited in 2006. So they started with standalones.

And then we get to a point, like you mentioned,

with Justice League, the Flashpoint Paradox,

that starts a whole new continuity within the

animated realm. And I've seen several of these,

I just haven't seen all of them. And it goes

from Justice League Flashpoint Paradox and ends

with Justice League Dark Apocalypse War. And

yeah, so cool. But I have always loved the DC

animated stuff because they are adapting comics

into animation, which is a better way of adapting

the comics than it is to put it in... Yes, they

had to do Dark Knight Returns in two parts, but

that's because that story is so damn huge kind

of thing. Yes, they had to do, what was another

one they had to do in two parts? There was something

else. Long Halloween. Long Halloween. Yep, yep,

long Halloween. But that's because that is so

huge. But like doing the killing joke in the

way that they did was really cool. Again, standalone

kind of thing. But the DCAMU is the main overall

continuity. for the movies that we're talking

about. And they've started some other continuities

and they're also going to be doing more standalone

stuff, which is really, really cool. I just need

to end up watching all the stuff. I just haven't.

And I think the reason why I have not watched

a lot of the DC stuff, specifically the Batman

stuff, is because Kevin Connery passed away.

Because that was my and I'm not saying I won't

watch these and I'm not you know I'm not trying

to say that or whatever else, but I'm saying

because of his passing. I'm just like Okay, I

need to step away from Batman for a bit kind

of thing So yeah, I just wanted to touch on this

because there's just I just blew my mind like

cuz I from the beginning of like the Zack Snyder

stuff like I wanted like Just everyone that he

cast, like it made me like I like I wanted to

see like Flashpoint Paradox. Right. Like with

with everything and for everyone that he cast

in all of his movies. And basically, it's just

Jeffrey Dean Morgan to see Jeffrey Dean Morgan

as Thomas Wayne in in the Flashpoint Paradox.

Like you can't I don't care if you like those

movies or not. If you know if you know the history,

there's no way you there's no way you did not

want to see that. Yeah, no, absolutely and and

and now we don't get to like, yeah I Just yeah,

it makes me so mad I don't even like this is

why I is This is why i'm gonna have to bring

the season of superheroes back on turn cast because

i'm looking at the cast of the animated justice

league flashpoint paradox I don't Other than

obviously Kevin Conroy, I don't and maybe Michael

B Jordan is cyborg I don't remember it. I don't

remember Steve Bloom doing a Lex Luthor at all

But he's here Yeah, but Good, but I so that's

the other thing too. Like lately like I can talk

endlessly about the DC stuff like the Marvel

stuff I just I do I cannot care anymore. I and

I so My wife and I we waited until secret invasion

was done And we're like, okay, we'll watch it.

Well, we watched the first episode and like,

okay We'll just we'll wait for the rest of it

to be done and we'll guess what that series is

over But the Witcher the the final thing for

the Witcher came out on Netflix at the end of

July So we decided we like the Witcher we know

we like the Witcher So let's watch that and we

just finished watching that and we're out to

dinner tonight And I'm like, hey, do you want

to do you want to start secret invasion? You

know just to get it over with. It wasn't even

about, it wasn't even being excited for it. It

was just like, do you want to just watch this

so we know what's going on? So we're not just

like, when we go to see whatever the next movie

is or watch the next one, we still have an idea

of what's happening. It wasn't even like, ah,

we're excited to watch this. And I haven't really,

I know it's being raked over the coals and stuff

like that, but I can usually take more away from

these things than like... the general audience

does, but I'm just like, I don't I don't even.

I don't know. I find it so hard to like care.

I'm I'm mildly excited for the Marvels in November.

But like. Again, we just keep talking about this

like every episode, like I just I don't care,

which is why like. My and I've always liked the

DC stuff. I like what Zach was putting down.

I've always said that on this show. I know I

don't like in the beginning of the first episode,

Steve and I ever did. I know we did the whole

like coming to terms with Ben Affleck being cast

as Batman. I remember that like like live, like

in the. Yep. Like because we didn't know what

to expect throughout the court, throughout the

entire record. It was like, oh, I don't know

how I feel about that. And then by the end of

it, it was like, OK, sure, that might be, you

know, it's but like I. Maybe it's because it's

Altered Geek. I like being able to talk about

the DC stuff. Ever since watching the Justice

League stuff and Justice League Unlimited, that's

the one thing that made me the most excited for

Zack Snyder being brought on as the director

of Man of Steel is because I like the way that

Superman is portrayed in Justice League and Justice

League Unlimited. I always thought that the one

director that I thought could bring me that Superman

or showed me like in live -action what is in

those shows was Zack Snyder And his credit I

feel like he did he he gave me that and So I'm

always more excited about what DC is doing next

and you can't fault them for his casting choices

because they're all still using them I mean Like

I don't know and then and then like like I said,

I revisit the flashpoint paradox I watched that

movie every couple of years and then I go down

the rabbit hole like watching war and then throne

of Atlantis but this was the first time I looked

up like a chronological thing because HBO or

I'm sorry max has all of these movies on them

like There are a lot of these but are they all

like connected and sure enough they are and I

was like I started watching them in order I was

like, wow, this actually flows like Really well

they're referencing something had happened in

that other movie, and I'm not completely lost

like It doesn't I don't Marvel has never had

a connected they've had Animated universes over

the last 34 years But they've never really had

a once like they didn't start out with Batman

the animated series go all the way through to

Justice League unlimited that covers Superman

that covers what else is it? Oh gosh, no Batman

Beyond Zeta project all this stuff You know the

new Batman Superman adventures all that, you

know Marvel had has never really had that and

then the the live -action film universe started

and I just love the Marvel in their animated

stuff has never tried to do a foot like there

are plenty of animated Marvel movies out there

for various characters in the Marvel universe,

but none of them have ever done what Bruce Tim,

Eric Radomski, Paul Dini, all those people back

in the DCAU days and now everybody that's working

on the the DC animated stuff for Warner Marvel's

never done that in animation. But like, OK, whoever

is in charge over the overall animation department

and deciding what there's got to be some guy

there. I think James Tucker is still the president

of Warner Brothers Animation. I could be wrong.

Well, but who's whoever is overseeing the continuity

thing for those animated movies like why? Why

is no one having a conversation with him like

Kevin Feige like started as the guy that got

Sam Raimi coffee in like Spider -man like you

have a guy there's someone in your animation

division that knows how to tell a Senate like

a connected story and he's sorry, but he's he's

the potentials are their potential is wasted

over there like Yeah, like I mean I'm not saying

those movies are bad. They're great But like

you you want something that's gonna like get

people in the seats and like follow a story like

you've got it the guys like The person is sitting

somewhere in your animation dungeons not getting

paid what he deserves. Come on, do something.

Steve? Oh man. No, I mean, I agree with him.

Give Bruce Tim the keys. Yeah, I always wondered

what happened to... Oh, what was that thing that

they were gonna do? It was before Kevin passed.

It was gonna be a The early years of yeah What

was it called? Batman Oh Cape Crusader or Something.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's isn't that still

happening. I Think it is now it is with a different

Batman. It's they were gonna have Kevin Conrad

do it It's not going to max either. It's going

somewhere else. Yeah, it's going either to shop

it around. Yeah, what else guys? I don't know.

It's Interesting that this podcast has been around

as long as it has And it's been around for ten

years and we keep talking about the same crap

I Mean it's you're not wrong. I Just I mean it's

it's a show about what we find interesting geek

culture and for some reason it ends up being

DC and Mm -hmm our toys and Star Trek and yep,

so Video games which the last one of that I've

played was the Star Trek resurgence Which was

surprisingly good I actually need to boot that

up again and see if they I know they released

like a pretty hefty patch Based on feedback probably

one of the best Star Trek games that have been

out In quite some time. Yeah, as far as I can

tell in my research here, Warner Brothers animation

is headed up by Sam register still, and he's

been at that for years with Warner Brothers,

with WDM. He was doing that in the 90s, wasn't

he? Yeah. Yeah, but that's not like that can't

be who's in charge of like the DC stuff. There's

got to be someone like right below him that's

in charge of the DC stuff. Mean according to

this I'm registered president Warren Brothers

animation Cartoon Network Studios and hamburger

studios Europe So that's just according to what

I've seen here But you know, you're you know,

you you are absolutely right I believe if I'm

I I'm fairly certain James Tucker is One of the

guys if not the guy that is in that is in direct

Yeah, so I Don't know I'm not even is just that

new Superman show though. Oh The animated one.

Yes. I keep seeing that on max. I'm like, I don't

care III feel like I should watch it. But then

it's like I don't want I don't want to watch

it Like you I'm so mad at you guys. I don't want

to watch it. I don't care if it's good. I'll

watch Harley Quinn, though. I will watch Harley

Quinn all day. Well, I think I don't know. Is

there anything else you guys want to talk about?

Hmm. Hmm. OK, for all me, I think that's. Yeah.

Hey Flaps, what are we going to do? I don't know,

what do you want to do? I've got it! Let's flap

over the east side of the jungle. They've always

got a bit of action, a bit of a swinging scene,

alright? Ah, come off it, things are right and

dead all over. You mean you wish they were? Very

funny. Okay. So what we're gonna do I Don't know

what you want to do Look flaps first. I say what

we're gonna do then you say I don't know what

you want to do Then I say what we're gonna do

you say what you want to do what we're gonna

do what you want. Let's do something Okay, what

do you want to do? Blimey I Got a good laugh

out of somebody that is trying to sell their

services on fiber. Oh Yeah, you want some Okay

You go ahead and do that, Mike. For context,

this is what we normally know as a certain voice.

Yes. Do your version. Yes. That's Beast Wars

Megatron. This mook is on Fiverr trying to sell

his voice acting air -quote services. As Beast

Wars Megatron impression and I'm just like that

sounds nothing like The I well just for fun Mike

my kids cuz they know I can do the voice they

I've done it enough that it annoys them. Yeah

They I Played this guy's clip on five versus

you want to hear something funny? And then I

played it and they're like, who's he supposed

to be? and My kids are blind so it's it's hilarious

to me So yeah So I played this clip for them.

They made that comment. I laughed I said it's

supposed to be Beast Wars Megatron and they're

like, yeah that doesn't that's they're like that's

like listening to Kingdom It's actually worse

than Kingdom it actually was At least the other

guy had some gravel and gravitas going on So

anyways, I played the clip for him they'd made

the comment I Played a clip of me What was funny

about it was they thought it was David Kay, yep

I played a it was a voice clip. I did for the

dark glass project that It I just recently talked

to the guys for that there is possibility. They

may actually animate it But I Did it with like

it was before I had my yeti before I had a nice

setup in my office It was just one of those crappy

nine dollar logitech or lab tech my microphones

that plugs into the headphone or the microphone

jack and I'd recorded it was super grainy and

I was like, you know I just want to hear what

it sounds like re -recorded because it was one

of those things I never got around to doing and

so I lip -synched back to the video clip of,

you know, ah, hello, I'm Megatron and this is

what you have all anxiously been waiting for.

Yes. You know, and so I played that role again

and I played the clip and the kids were like,

That's the guy and I was like, no, it's I'm the

guy. Oh, yeah, and So like the smirks on their

face, they're like No, it wasn't so I played

like the beast machine commercial for the beast

unleashed podcast. Mm -hmm and My youngest is

like sitting there like furrowing his brow. He's

like he's like trying to decipher if it's me

or not and and he's just sitting there and he's

getting like this look and and I said it's it's

me and He goes I thought that was you but I wasn't

sure you know and There he's like, what is that

from and I says this is from Beast Machines and

you know, I did the The like even the echo that

was on that clip I think I naturally did that

like it was something I did with my throat or

something. I don't really remember Just right

conditions for the right recording. But yeah,

so anyways, I played that clip the guy, you know

sounded nothing like Megatron, but he's trying

to sell his His Ability to say words it claiming

to be Megatron for like 50 bucks for a small

amount of dialogue. It was just surprising, I

guess, how many times I see people attempt to

do the voice. To date, the only people that I've

seen that can do the voice and pull it off, besides

myself, is General Techno, who's another huge

Transformers fan of David Kay's work. He's a

huge Lugnut fan as well. so but yeah we're the

like the only two that i've heard that can do

a convincing david k megatron yeah that's awesome

but yeah i mean that that happened like earlier

tonight so it was something humorous that happened

yes fresh on our minds folks fresh on our minds

before we get out of here celebrating 10 years

of altered geek and and all that good stuff we

wanted to bring attention to something a good

buddy of ours, Hank Davis, is doing. So Hank

has his YouTube channel, it's called Free Podcast

Tools, and he has just started his podcast gear

newsletter. Free monthly newsletter, sign up

through email, whatever. We'll have a link in

the show notes. I have signed up for it, and

it's a newsletter about podcasting tips that

comes out once a month. and in this first one

he highlights the mono that mono is launching

a mono caster c2 neo these are all podcasting

like actual physical you know stuff besides just

the headphones and microphone and he's got other

things highlighted in here and if you're a podcaster

and you would like a newsletter check out hank

davis's uh free podcast tools gear newsletter

He also launched that primarily because He's

tired of watching Like people kind of gatekeeping

new podcasters. Oh, yeah by like or you have

to have this mixer you have to have this particular

$400 microphone you have to have God, you know

in So he's like trying to break down like the

gear and make it like user friendly and like

simple and taking a lot of the the guesswork

out of it to kind of just I don't know make it

more approachable to people because I mean If

we can sit here and talk about our interests

I'll all evening and Maybe entertain somebody

was educate them to some degree You know somebody

else should be able to do it too. So Absolutely

Mike you got anything else you want to bring

up before Steve closes it out? Nope, not really.

So if anybody would like to send us any topic

suggestions or questions for us to dabble on

on the next podcast, that would be awesome. Kind

of give us something to something to geek out

about and ramble on a little bit. Obviously,

you've heard what we've been geeking out on and.

Some of our geeky obsessions this time. So tell

us what yours are What are some of your geeky

obsessions or things that you're entertained

with right now or the way that your geekdom has

evolved? Uh, just Let us know on the website

on geekcastradio .com or feedback at geekcastradio

.com or hit me up on the twitter at alter geek

Or at x I should say Oh god, yeah I still use

the original tweet deck while I can, but once

they take that and make me use the new one, I'm

not using tweet deck anymore. The new one sucks.

It does. It wiped out everything I had programmed

and I'm like, I'm not using this one. Nope. I

opt out. Yep. So I basically just use the Twitter

website when I need to actually post on X. And

yeah, Elon really gave it to us this time. Yeah,

in more ways than one. Until next time, get altered,

get geeky, with the Altered Geeks.