Top 100 Animated Characters Countdown: #25-01

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That's right, today we're going to be going over

our numbers 25 through our number one of our

top 100 animated characters of all time. I'm

your host, Optimus Solo, and joining me, as you've

heard through various parts of the countdown,

is movie revolt Dan. Hello. Hey, how's it going?

It's not going too bad. Excited to get into the

countdown today. Returning after a one -episode

hiatus, Miss Hard Candy Mandy. Hello. What's

up? Also joining us once again is Sketch. How

you doing, sir? Four for four, baby! Scheduling

God shined on you and smiled on you or whatever

you want to say And then also joining us like

he was here last episode is none other than mr.

DJ Valentine Hello, I'm happy to be back in the

same way. I assured you off air I like to assure

the audience on air that this time this time

I've taken my medication. So I should be fine

And just so you guys are aware, Amanda does not

know about the comments that were made in last

episode, but she does know the characters that

were revealed. So we're all up to speed when

it comes to that, Amanda. Knocking down my number

one slot. I don't like it, but I'm glad that

she made the top 50 anyways. We missed out on

an epic duel between you and DJ. You know what?

Just because Mulan saved fucking China and shit

does not mean she changed her entire friggin

species. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. It's not war,

but I will, I will, I will challenge you. We'll

have a list. You list the cool things about Ariel

and I'll just list the cool things about Mulan

and we'll see who runs out first. I have a feeling

that you will. and has a dragon friend. Did she

save all of China and an emperor in her love

interest and, you know, killed a battalion of

Huns and disarmed the greatest - You know what's

bigger than China is the fucking ocean because

it covers more of the planet. So, she saved everybody

in the frigging ocean from Ursula. Boom. She

didn't do anything. Her weird boyfriend did with

a boat. Mulan didn't need a boat, all she needed

was a fan, and she disarmed the greatest soldier

in Mongolian history with a fan! Alright, let

me play devil's advocate to both of you, because

both of these characters actually did a significant

thing in their societies. With Mulan, of course

she, you know, she saved all of China, but she

also, you know, she was a pioneer in women's

rights. In a way, right? And then Ariel totally

changed the mermaid rights. Mermaid rights. But

mermaid culture, they were totally unaccepting

of the idea of mermaids and humans co -mingling,

and now they're kind of okay with it. Here's

the difference. Here's the difference. I would

just say this. The thing about mermaids and China

is that one of those two things exist. Okay,

second off Mulan trained harder in a Chinese

army, one of the like the biggest army. I don't

know if you guys know that China has a lot of

people and trained harder than everybody else.

in a scene that was stolen by Captain freaking

America himself and Captain America Civil War,

okay? Captain America is - Ariel couldn't even

show up for her own performance, so. Because

she was too busy being an explorer and a pioneer

in her own freaking world, that's why. She was

hoarding things in her own personal cave. Right,

right. You know, somebody's gotta start the hoarding

craze. Oh man, so this is just a taste of what

we missed out on last week from not having Amanda

and DJ on the same record, so maybe we'll get

a few more of those. as we move forward. Dan,

we talked a little bit about it at the end of

last episode, but what are you looking forward

to the most, and what are your thoughts here?

As I'm gonna give the breakdown real quick before

you start, but so far we've had, I've been doing

like the running total, so so far we've had 17

Disney characters, 13 of them from Disney movies,

only four outside of the Disney movie sphere.

We've had 18 females, we've had 10 villains,

Only five Looney Tunes characters, only two classic

Hanna -Barbera characters, five Cartoon Network

characters, seven anime characters, five Pixar,

five, I guess we would like to call the primetime

or adult cartoon characters, and seven 80s action

characters. What do you think of those numbers

and how does that play into what we might or

might not see today? I guess we're very heavy

on Disney. A little bit. I'm surprised by the

Very low number of Hannah Barbera the very low

number of primetime like adult shows of you know

Simpson South Park Futurama like they've had

very little representation. We haven't had a

Simpsons character yet So I'm hoping that rectifies

itself very shortly but just thinking of amount

amount of characters that They're gonna be I

think some really big ones that aren't on the

list because looking at some of the most iconic

Cartoon characters there are more than 25 and

only 25 spots left. So I'm gonna be interested

to see who loves out here It's gonna be interesting

because when you talk about how iconic they are

and it's not just that they're not being talked

about today That means that they went from possible

characters that you would think would be in the

top 25 to not even being on the countdown at

all. So that'll definitely make for an interesting

discussion in our wrap up show. As you said,

interested to see too that we had, if you would

have told me at the beginning that at this point

we would have just as many or more Pixar characters

than Hannah Barbera or Looney Tunes characters,

I would have not been in agreement with you.

I would have thought you were talking some crazy

stuff. Sketch, what do you think we're in for

for today? Think any surprises or is this gonna

be something that's pretty predictable from the

audience or the listeners I think it will be

mostly predictable But the way this list has

been going there's been some interesting things

just popping up here there and everywhere So

I would not be too surprised if up to five upsets

occur in this top 25 probably not more than that

and then you know all of the very expected characters

should end up about where you would expect them

to be i'm kind of curious to see how close we

get to what i had as my top 25 because i think

i'm gonna get close yeah and the other thing

is that's interesting about this is it might

not necessarily be who's going to show up but

what order they show up in as well um that's

something that kind of interesting look out for.

DJ, over, under, on a number of times, you and

Amanda debate each other in this episode. No,

I think we only disagree on Mulan and Ariel because

I'm right and she's wrong. But I mean, everything

else, I think we see eye to eye. I think she

did rank both of those characters on her top

100. I mean, one girl has a dragon as a friend.

One girl has a fish. I mean, it's... It's obvious.

Who's the better one? In a really lucky cricket.

Dragons aren't real. Fish are. She got you there.

Okay, I'm sorry. Swords are real and she wields

one while the other girl can't talk. But she's

got her body language, which is essential to

any girl. Ariel would lose every argument. She

can't, you know, talk. Ariel knows how to use

the three seashells. That's about all she knows

how to do. Amanda any other surprises as far

as the ones that you were not here for ones that

were revealed that You're sad to see go or ones

that you were surprised by the countdown at all

or any other thoughts on last week's episode

I'm a little surprised dark wing duck was up

so high, but I'm glad to see a couple of the

others that were ranked last time make it up

until last episode. I had no freaking clue what

anybody was thinking with some of these characters

that have popped up in the order that they've

popped up in. So with this episode, I have no

freaking clue what to expect, except I'm probably

going to get mad like a few times. I've never

known you to be mad, so I don't know what that

would be like. We're going to chart a new ground

here. Let's get right into it with our first

pick of the day, starting off today's countdown

here. 25. At the number 25 spot. Actually showing

up on more lists than everything except for Darkwing

Ducka. As we said last week, Darkwing Ducka is

on a lot of lists, but this guy was only on one

less list than that. We're going to go right

back and add another tally to the Pixar column

and another tally to, I guess, characters that

have a minimal amount of speaking. Let's go to

Wally from 2008. So Dan, we start with another

Pixar character. What do you think as far as

just looking at Pixar in general? Because we've

seen Buzz Lightyear, we've seen Remy, Carl from

Up. We get Wally in the top 25. What do you think?

I think it's definitely deserving because you

think about the movie of Wally. He had the first,

what, 45, 50 minutes of that movie pretty much

by himself. a character that didn't talk really

I mean he made some like language like you know

sounds but Right. Very likeable, very animated.

So I think he's a really great character. And

I think we talked about Iron Giant a few episodes

ago. And I think they really have to relate to

one another in the sense of both having kind

of robots that don't speak. But I think Wally

has a little bit more emotion to him. He's more

of a well -rounded character. And he also has

that great little relationship with Eve. Or is

it? Is that right? Eve. Eve. Eve. There you go.

So I love Wally. You mean? Great character design.

Yeah, he looks like Johnny five, but you know

Amanda he brought up the comparison between iron

giant Do you think Wally deserves to be higher

than iron giant? That's kind of hard to say I

know that that's One of our matchups wasn't it

Wally versus iron giant. I didn't see how that

played out but They both had a ton of heart both

were willing to sacrifice themselves were you

know people that they loved so think it comes

down to a personal preference here really because

they both stood for a lot of the same things

and I think that maybe we're gonna give it to

Wally because he did kind of bring back a lot

of people into a Consciousness of who they were

meant to be and so he brought all these people

back So maybe Wally did a little bit more than

iron giant. I think iron giants was a little

bit, you know smaller scale But I don't know,

personal preference. All right. DJ, is WALL -E

deserving of being in the top 25? I guess objectively,

yes. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of WALL -E.

It's one of the three Pixar films I do not like,

really. But I can only realize, I think WALL

-E as a movie, yes. WALL -E is a character. I

mean, I don't know. Again, I know I'm in the

minority because I only watched WALL -E because

I heard Roger Deakins was a consultant on the

first I don't know, the Earth scenes or whatever.

So I go and watch whatever Roger Deakins does.

But the character, I don't know. Again, I got

everything from Wall -E I got from, like you

guys are saying, Iron Giant. But again, I hold

my hands up. I understand why he's there. I think

it might be a little bit too high for this Pixar

character, I would say. Sketch, do you agree

you also did not have Wall -E in your top 100?

So is top 25 too high in your opinion? You know

thinking about it Wally as a character he does

a lot and He expresses a lot without a voice,

which I think I think we've given characters

points for being able to express a lot without

a voice and Yeah, he does accomplish a lot. He

completely resets that society when it's in such

a terrible state Plus he has a nice romance with

Eva. It's I like it Yeah, I think maybe 25 is

a little too high, but probably top 50. Three

people had him in the top 10. Dan in session

film and David all had him in the top 10. I had

it at 24, so I'm pretty much fine with where

it's showing up. I only missed it by one spot.

Because we care about you what you think. I'll

just keep being the host. But yeah, I like Wally.

I never had seen Wally until just this last...

a year and a half or whatever it was. So I did

like him as a character. I think he's someone

that you kind of instantly are drawn to and interested

to see kind of where it goes from there. So as

far as the Pixar characters, I think so, you

know, from what we've seen, I would put him ahead

of most of the ones we've seen. I think, like

I said, Remy, I would put him ahead of Remy.

I would put him ahead of Carl. joy, sadness,

I put him ahead of all those. Even Buzz Lightyear,

I think I would put him ahead of that. So maybe

ahead of Buzz, not ahead of Buzz. Maybe other

ones. Maybe Buzz to me just just has more things

going on than Wally. I think. But again, right.

It's the it's the smaller opinion. They're only

10 spots off. So obviously we had Buzz at 34

Wally here at 25, just about 10 spots. So we're

talking top 25 and lower than top 25. I feel

like Buzz should be in the top 25. Like if you

flip this, I would be fine. Yeah, if you flip

Buzz and Wally, I wouldn't mind that. But because

Buzz is going to be like, dude, I'm having the

best poetry of all time. Yeah, Wally above me

doesn't even talk. You're a child's plaything.

Want to see if the listeners agree or not with

our placement of those two characters. It's an

interesting discussion for sure 24 let's go to

number 24 then and go let's let's Start up another

discussion that we've had before and let's see

how heated the panel gets from this one When

we're looking at the top 25 I would debate that

most of them are pretty deserving, you know for

sure top 50 characters I guess you know where

you place them in that top 50 is questionable

This one may be one that some people oppose.

I don't know. But we're gonna go back to the

wonderful world of Disney. Go back to the world

of Disney princesses. Oh no. So we have seen

Mulan. We've seen Elsa. We've seen Ariel. Number

24, Belle from Beauty and the Beast. So. I'll

just let Amanda start, since she was absent from

her last Disney Princess discussion. What do

you think of Belle being in the top 25? And let's

do the common thing. Let's compare her to the

other Disney Princesses that have been discussed

so far. Was this JD's number one? No. It was

his number three. Oh, Jesus. He is to blame.

He had Simba. He had Simba at number one. okay

well I do think she's a fun character I don't

know if I would rank her above some of the others

that we've already seen definitely above Elsa

but as far as her being this far up I think it's

cool that she's in the top 50 but what did she

really do four people have her in the top 15

I guess the reason I put her on my list, because

I had her at 73, is I liked the fact that she's

probably the most, I don't know, would we call

her the most educated of all the Disney princesses?

Is she the one she just reads? Like, she didn't...

Bitch was in, like, what century France? Did

she really get to go to school? I'm just saying

that she was, like, the smartest person in the

town, other than her father. Yeah. So, I mean,

I give her points for that, because it kind of

broke a mold. She wasn't just the pretty Disney

princess or the, you know... The royalty or whatever

her name means beauty I get that I get that but

I know the film is called Beauty and the Beast

But I mean that's not it wasn't like it was just

like paper thin, you know, there was something

more to her So I gave her a little bit more credit

for that I'm not saying I ranked her ahead of

some of these other ones that we're talking about

I do think she did a lot for empowering girls

and Showing them that you don't just need this

man. You know, I mean just because he's the prettiest

guy in town Doesn't mean he's the right choice.

Is he really the prettiest guy? Song he shot

a duck with a shotgun in the opening scene Anything

else I think that she was one of the stronger

ones, too. She didn't take the beast shit. She

stood up to him. She didn't act as scared as

she probably was. So I think she did a lot to

show how brave and smart she was and how independent

she could be. Now, we don't know, because obviously

there's 23 more spots. So we don't know if we're

going to get the likes of Snow White, Cinderella,

Sleeping Beauty, any of those types of classic

Disney princesses. But DJ, if. We don't. Let's

say we don't. If we just have Belle, Mulan, Ariel,

and Elsa, are those the top four Disney princesses?

Or what's your take? I might switch out. I know

I'm going to probably yell that for this. I might

switch out Ariel for Jasmine. But I mean, I know

this is more of a, you know, how good was the

movie sort of thing? So because I think Belle

is fine. But again, she is not instrumental in

the climax of that film. Mulan is the only Disney

princess who's instrumental to the climax of

the film. She actually causes the end of the

movie. Erbel is kind of like looking as Beast

is fighting Gaston, and I think Beast is more

of an interesting character to me in that movie,

but the movie, I think, is getting her over as

the... as such a character, because I think JD

or whoever voted for her that I must have really

loved Beauty and the Beast, which I understand

completely, because Beauty and the Beast, it's

like the first Disney animated feature to get

nominated for an Academy Best Picture, I think,

something like that. So I understand it, but

Belle, I mean, I understand her being there,

but again, she's just, I don't know, she doesn't

do much for me. The biggest arc she does is when

she sacrifices herself for her father, and then

she, does the, you know, uh, don't judge a book

by its cover thing. That's what the books are

there for. So, you know, metaphor. But I mean,

other than that, she doesn't do anything in the

end other than, you know, don't, don't kill him.

You know, that's all she really does. I'm more

leaning toward, you know, Elsa, but she has superpowers

and Mulan because she does stuff. Ariel and the

rest of these guys don't really do anything really.

So, I mean, but that's how I'm judging him. I

might, I might be off on how I'm judging him.

She switched her frigging species. We're not

talking about Ariel. Out of all of the characters

in the Top 25, Belle made the least number of

lists. So no other character is on the less list

than Belle that we're going to talk about today.

Dan, not on your list, also not on Sketch's list,

so we'll get both of you guys' opinions. Is she

Top 100 worthy? Top 25 worthy? I think she's

definitely top 100 worthy. I think we're not

giving her enough credit. I didn't rank her personally,

because I had Elsa, and I felt some of the other

Disney princesses were a little stronger. But

I think characters can be defined more than this

through actions. Like, I think we tend to think,

well, this character didn't do anything because

we kind of reduced them to the actions that they're

doing. But I think that... There's more to her

than that. I think she's actually quite a well

-rounded character when it comes to being a Disney

character or just a princess if you even want

to categorize her as that she you know, she has

obviously the beauty but There is a compassion

there. She is elegant. She's smart I don't know.

I feel like she had there's a lot more to her

character than we're giving her credit for there's

a lot of She's the most interesting person in

her own movie. That's so that's kind of where

I lose her a little bit I think that's a dangerous

thing to say, because a character can be very

interesting, but that character would not be

able to survive their own film. It's like, yeah,

a lot of times the most flamboyant character

is, yeah, they're great, but they're only great

in that short dosage. And if you were to stretch

that character out for a feature movie, that

character would be tiresome by the end. So I

think sometimes a character needs to be for lack

of a better word, boring or allowing other characters

to take the limelight in some ways. I didn't

rank her, I did rank Beast on my list, so I do

think Beast is probably the more dynamic character,

but I don't necessarily think that, I don't think

she's a bad character. I don't think it's outrageous

that she's on the list. I do think maybe she's

too high. I do think Elsa's a much more... Dynamic

character than that. She is I think she's a little

bit more groundbreaking in her portrayal compared

to that a bell or But you know, I I would say

that and I think Milan I prefer Milan is a character

as well, but I would say bells much better than

someone like Cinderella or oh, yes Snow white

or something of that nature. So she has a A lot

going for I guess you would say so sketch agree

or disagree. I agree with all those points I've

always liked Bell as a character and I didn't

rank her because I felt like there were more

significant Disney princesses to rank and I Kind

of also figured that if she was beloved enough

that she would make the list So I think she belongs

in the top 100 at least perhaps I would say below

all of the other Disney princesses that we have

had so far All right, so let the Disney princess

debate continue on the website in the comment

section So I said it kind of with Bell I'm gonna

say it again and this will be the last time I

say it that our next one might also Raise some

questions to some people These are the only two

that I think you can somewhat question if they're

top 50 top 25 worthy or not 23 for our number

23 I think we all knew this was coming based

on the characters that have been mentioned so

far. And if we had mentioned all those other

ones and not this one, maybe then we would be

questioned. So our number 23, we're going to

go back to the 80s action characters. Would anybody

like to take a guess to our number 23? Duke?

Is it a gel bot? We're gonna go to Optimus Prime.

Oh, okay. It's formers for our number 23 going

back to 1984 voiced by the iconic Peter Cullen

Again, we've seen Megatron, we've seen some of

the He -Man characters, we've seen One Turtle,

we've seen some G .I. Joe characters. Optimus

Prime here at number 23 on just as many lists

as Darkwing Duck. So interesting there. Let's

start with Amanda. You did not have Optimus Prime

in your top 100. Is he not worthy? I just didn't

have any connection with him and I didn't do

my list objectively, like it was all like what

I like and what impacted me. I never really watched

Transformers, you know, probably a little bit

before my time, we'll say that. as culturally

impactful as he is, I just didn't like him. DJ,

since she wasn't as exposed to Transformers as

maybe some of us were, could you explain the

number one reason why Optimus Prime is deserving

to be on the top 100 animated characters of all

time list? One shall stand, one shall fall. He

is essentially John Wayne as a robot that transforms

into a truck and the greatest leader in 80s cartoon

history. I mean, how many reasons do you want?

Well, I was thinking there was one that might

stand out above above the rest for those of us

that that grew up and hadn't seen all the I mean,

I don't want to spoil anything. This prime essentially

traumatized. me for a very long time it was so

traumatic for the children that when it came

when it happened that they changed the ending

of judge of the movie because of how optimus

prime effed up every child his death prime you

can't die do not grieve soon i shall be one with

the matrix It is to you, old friend. I shall

pass the Matrix of Leadership as it was passed

to me. But Prime, I'm... I'm just a soldier.

I... I'm not worthy. Nor was I. But one day,

an Autobot shall rise from our ranks and use

the power of the Matrix to light our... The darkest

hour. That's what I remember from Althus Prime

is that I was bawling like a crazy person in

the movie theater because they shot him in the

first 20 minutes of the damn movie. So, I don't

know. Yeah, and it's something that I guess maybe

partially skewed because of the country we live

in and the type of animation that we're exposed

to and you know... had been something that most

of us hadn't seen before as far as actual death

in cartoons, you know, you might get that more

if you're, you know, you were watching anime

growing up or different things that maybe took

more chances like that, but Optimus Prime was

obviously outside of like... Bambi's mom and

a couple characters like that. One of the first

deaths I think I remember in animation. I did

not have him in the top 25. I had him closer

to the 50 mark. So I don't know if he's really

deserving of being in the top 25. I do think

he you could make the debate though or the defense

that he is. that should be the highest ranking

out of the action characters that we've talked

about. So maybe we got the order right, but maybe

they're all skewed to be a little bit higher

than maybe they should be. Dan, I don't know

if you agree with that or not, but what do you

think? I would think, yeah, I would probably

break him out of all the 80s action or action

characters in general, probably at least near

the top. I'm not a huge transformers fan compared

to a lot of people but I did have optimus prime

on my list i'm, not sure if I ranked him or mega

megatron higher main but You can't deny like

he's had a huge impact within Within generation

it continues today really and I know there's

been You know, there's 80 series but as you know,

we've been covered in geocast radio There's tons

of different animated series that also members

prime has been a big part of so I think he's

one of those characters like the Captain America,

Superman type, where you can maybe argue that

maybe he's a little generic in some instances.

He's not, you know, he's not, as we've talked

about, maybe the most interesting of all the

Transformers. Megatron may be a little bit more

fun, but... I think he's a big reason for the

success of Transformers. So because of that,

I think you could argue that he belongs here.

Maybe it's a little high. Maybe it's not high

enough. I don't know. As the lack of Transformers

expert, I don't know if I can really say, but

I'm glad he's not much higher than he is, I guess

I would say. He transforms into a truck, guys.

Maybe I didn't say that clearly. He transforms

into a numbers truck. Sketch, you also had Optimus

Prime on your list. You had it pretty close.

You had him at number 30. He comes in here at

number 23. What do you think of this selection?

Well, first of all, there are cool things to

transform into than a truck, like a tank and

a jet. He killed those things. He shot them in

the face with his gun. That is a fair point.

Tanks and planes, Optimus killed them. I also

liked when he transformed into a gorilla. All

facts Optimus Prime out of all of the 80s leaders

is definitely the best of the 80s cartoon leaders

without question Optimus Prime is such a figure

of power and strength He's like father to the

fatherless if you had a crappy childhood and

you were growing up Optimus Prime was that inspiration

for you At least that's what I'm told. I had

a great childhood. I don't know I didn't he was

my dad and they killed him It was a bigger deal

than Mufasa I didn't cry Mufasa. I cried at Optimus

Prime We'd already seen Optimus Prime die. Yeah,

it was cold. I was that been there done that

Yeah. For the record, though, only three people

had him in the top 25 that voted. It was just

the number of people that had Optimus Prime on

their list that gets him up this high. So yeah,

number 23 was Optimus Prime. 22. Let's go a completely

different direction to our number 22. I guess

we can re -engage the debate on whether certain

characters should be paired together or not,

because we have a pairing here at number 22.

Let's go back to 1991. And let's talk about Wren

and Stimpy at our number 22 spot. Dan, you just

missed this one. You had it at 29, and it comes

in at 22. Why are Wren and Stimpy worthy of being

in the top 25? Man, because of what they were

able to get away with in a kid's cartoon. I mean,

the fact that I watched that as a child is still

amazing to me. But Wren and Stimpy are interesting.

Weird duo like I can't believe that they exist

in a lot of ways There's really been no one like

them since then or and no one like them before

them They're kind of like the odd couple on crack

Yeah, and then dog and cat form so, you know

rent obviously Stimpy is that lovable kind of

goofball and rent is just the evil Chihuahua

who? Barks at everything. But I don't know. They're

they're just I know a lot of people don't like

running sippy and I get that because it's it

is a specific type of humor. But for those that

do and they were they were pretty huge in their

day. And I know they've had some some revivals

here and there. They think they had a show on

Spike in the early 2000s. That didn't last for

a great deal. But I don't know. I think that

just they're Ability to stand out compared to

all other animated characters made them worthy

of this list and Obviously, I had them a little

lower than this, but I'm actually kind of really

surprised to see them I got I at this point.

I just assumed they wouldn't be on here Yeah,

there's another thing with a character like that

years that you might think that you know It doesn't

work for a certain number of people or it's it's

not one of the characters that has the staying

power as far as that You know, they've been on

TV or they've been in, you know the the media

presence for you decades or, you know, like Optimus

Prime, just we talked about. He's been, you know,

basically going for 30 plus years. So I think

when you don't have that, you kind of risk being

missed in a certain way. But like you said, they're

so unique and they so stand out when you think

of all their animated characters that maybe that

helped him out. We had a number of people that

had it pretty close. I had Ren and Stimpy at

number 20. Amanda, you had them at 18. Dan, like

I said, had 29. TV's Mr. Neil, 18. Sketch, 25.

So we had a lot of them in this range. nobody

had him higher, had them higher than 18. So,

I don't know, nobody thought that they were,

you know, top 10 worthy or top 15 worthy, but

they kind of fell where a lot of people put them.

I mean, you were the highest ranker of Brendan

Stimpy, so where do you think as far as them

showing up here in the top 25? Surprised to see

them? No, I love Brendan Stimpy. I think that

they're memorable for me, you know what I mean?

I had a lot of exposure to Ren and Stimpy, probably

as awful as that is, because looking back at

the things that I watched as a kid, watching

Ren and Stimpy, I'm still like, why was I not

more disturbed by this? I distinctly remember

some episodes of some serious, nasty stuff going

on, and I think that... they were just so weird

and so odd and they could get away with so much

they were just fascinating and amazing and grotesque

all in the same swoop and you gotta love them.

There was if you were growing up when Ren and

Stimpy was airing there is no way that you went

to school and did not hear at least one person

imitating lines or quoting or trying to mimic

the voices of Ren and Stimpy. Like that was just

a thing that you would expect to happen. DJ,

what do you think about Ren and Stimpy showing

up here in the Top 100? I mean, they should be

in the Top 100 for Happy Happy Joy Joy and the

log song alone. I mean, I had to do I had when

I was in film school. They had us pitch ideas

for as our final project. And the what they wanted

to do was distract us as they as we're pitching.

And my professor played the log song in the background

to distract our pitch. And I was like, fuck,

I like it. Because if you start singing, if you

hear the logs on, you can't stop singing. It's

like the song that doesn't end kind of song.

I think they're just groundbreaking. And I mean,

Dan's right. They got away with it. If you watch

Ren and Slippy now, it's still kind of like.

Are you allowed to play this on TV? They played

it with some craziness on that show. And this

was what? It was in 95? Sick? I can't even remember.

The first time they appeared was 91. I don't

know if that's when the series proper started.

Right. They came off and they went back to I

think it went to Nickelodeon from MTV or maybe

Vice versa or something like that. Yeah. Yeah.

I think they're groundbreaking. This is higher

than I expected them to be. But I'm not going

to complain because I love Ren and Snippy. Sketch,

what are your thoughts on Ren and Snippy? When

I was growing up. I was a bit sheltered so my

parents wouldn't let me watch Ren and Stimpy

but I would go over to grandma and grandpa's

house and they loved Ren and Stimpy so they hold

a very special place in my heart for that reason

because my grandmother still loves Ren and Stimpy

we occasionally watch the the DVDs but Ren and

Stimpy is hilarious it is brilliant Yes, it's

a lot of potty humor, but it's so clever. It's

so amazingly detailed when they do those grotesque

shots. It's there's been so many imitators over

the years, even though there's nobody quite like

Ren and Stimpy. There's definitely been many,

many shows that tried to recreate this formula.

I'm looking at you, Cow and Chicken. Yeah, yeah,

but I like that show. Ren and Stimpy. absolutely

belongs in the top 25. It's a marvelous show,

a marvelous pairing, and so groundbreaking that,

and iconic, that you you can't argue against

Rin and Snippy being at least in the top 30.

Did you hear that TFG1 Mike? You cannot argue

against Ren and Stimpy. He doesn't like Ren and

Stimpy. He hates Ren and Stimpy. All right, moving

on to our next group. I say group because we

have another tie come up here for the next spot.

So we'll go with the loser of that tie. 21. First,

we've only had four Disney characters that were

not Disney movie characters, primarily. We're

going to add that group here with our number

21 selection. Going back to his first appearance

in a 1932 short, we're talking now about Goofy.

Goofy at number 21. Who wants to start with Goofy?

Let's start with a man that... What? Go ahead.

Hold up. 21? Goofy is not in the top 10? 21.

Lost points for Goof Troop. That knocked it down

a little. Oh man. Come on. So clearly, Sketch

had Goofy ranked higher than anybody. Sketch,

you're actually the only person that had Goofy

in the top 10. Oh, it's heartbreaking. I was

next. I had him at 15. Everybody else was 25

or 24 or higher. So we'll let you start. Why

does Goofy deserve to be higher, in your opinion?

like the number one slapstick cartoon character

aside from maybe Wile E. Coyote who has to have

Road Runner for that whole bit or like somebody

else to work off of but goofy all of his cartoons

where he's singularly the only character there

maybe a narrator he steals the show every time

he's absolutely hilarious he works in so many

scenarios and then you have goof troop and the

goofy movie and you give him kind of an emotional

arc trying to be a good dad and there's so many

additional layers to goofy now but above all

of that he's just a solid well -drawn flexible

cartoon character who's tremendously iconic and

I can't believe that he's not at least in the

top 15 I never really was like, oh, fucking Goofy.

I'm gonna watch Goofy. Like he wasn't my go -to.

Like I wasn't like, oh, I just want to like get

a bunch of Goofy memorabilia and like wear a

fucking Goofy sweater. And I was just never on

board with Goofy. Like I - What did you say you

had to obsess with him? I was never really entertained

by him. And I think like the Goofy movies kind

of came out like at a time where it just didn't

hit home with me either. And I just, I never

really cared about it. Goofy was a good dad.

It was. Sketch, as soon as you said he's trying

to be a good dad, all I heard in my head was

just the two of us, like the entire rest of the

time you were talking. The six people left Goofy

off of the top 100 completely. What? So, DJ,

what do you think of that? I can't understand.

I don't know what I don't understand more, how

Goofy had sex or that he was in love. And Goofy's

a dog, but one has clothes and the other's a

dog. I don't understand. Something's inconsistent

about Goofy. I don't know if it's more of the

sex or the fact that he's anthropomorphic in

a different way than Pluto is. I don't know what

it is. I've never been a huge Goofy fan. I feel

like he's there. You don't know if he might be

getting mad, but, dude, he is probably, like,

getting all the bitches. And you don't know.

He's literally getting all the bitches. Where

are we going with this? At least two. He's like

seasoning. He just went a little bit of him.

I never really go, I can't wait to watch this

Goofy -centric episode. I like it when Goofy's

interacting with the rest of the Disney crew.

I'm not a huge Goofy fan. I know that Genie likes

him. But that's about it. I'm not a huge fan.

The thing that I always appreciated about Goofy,

because growing up, I did watch a lot of you

know, the shorts and that type of stuff. No,

he kind of represented a personality trait or

set of personality traits that you didn't see

a lot at that time. I almost kind of put him

in the same group as almost like an Eeyore or

something like that where. You just kind of had

that character that screamed for sympathy or

empathy. You felt for Goofy. You felt bad for

him. You felt... They did a really good job of...

animating and displaying his emotional state,

I think, in a better way than we saw with some

of the other, especially if we're just talking

about Disney characters. I felt more of the emotion

from Goofy than I felt any of the other Disney

characters, so I do give him credit for that.

Because he's a basket case. But it's just the

way, like some of these characters, and we'll

have to see which ones are. made the top 100,

which ones didn't, et cetera. But some of the

characters to me are a little bit more thin.

And with Goofy, I at least felt, I wasn't like

a huge Goofy fan, but I at least felt what they

were trying to emote with him more than I did

with some of those other ones. So that's why

I had him up in the 15 range. Dan, what are your

thoughts on Goofy? Love, hate in the middle?

What do you think? I don't know. I mean, I loved

him as a kid for sure. I mean, I did watch...

The Goof Troop enjoyed that, but younger than

that, did watch some of those shorts with him

and found it funny, obviously, because he's certainly

directed towards kids. I think that's his design

and his purpose. And I think we did see some

more rounding out when he got into The Goof Troop

and the very goofy movie where he became, you

added a little bit more of the father dimension,

like you mentioned, and seeing him as a dad,

which was kind of weird. being since he was kind

of just a slapstick character beforehand. I think

he certainly. It's iconic nature does make him

deserving for this list. I think it's he should

obviously be in the top 100 top 50 top 25 I think

is is legitimate because there's if you look

at just kind of the Matt Rushmore of Disney characters

I would say he's on there for sure The ones that

help build up their world of animation. He's

a big part of that So because of that, I think

he's deserving and obviously, you know He's got

those infamous hacks and said that we all know

knowing well that I'm sure Disney's made billions

of dollars off of. So I mean, personally, he

never was one of my favorite characters to go

to. But I do think if you just look at his legacy

as a character and his effectiveness to make

people laugh, which is kind of what he was designed

to do, I do think he is deserving of where he's

at. He's been in more Shorts movies television

shows games etc than any other character We've

talked about thus far in the countdown and somewhere

around the 75 range and that's grouping the theatrical

shorts together as one so 75 different movies

TV shows etc So a big presence obviously for

a long time for goofy coming in at our number

21 spot tied with Goofy, but winning in the tiebreaker.

We got an interesting reaction when Goofy's name

was mentioned. Let's see what happens when we

mention the next entrant who was on five people's

top 10. Number 20, Rocky and Bullwinkle. So going

back to the 1959 television show, obviously famously

voiced by June Foray and Bill Scott. J Ward productions

here rocky and bullwinkle on five people's top

ten sketch Are you are you starting to to sweat

here? This is your second in a row knocking falling

off of your top ten You had goofy at number six.

You had rocky and bullwinkle at number eight.

I Think that's a crying shame rocky and bullwinkle

Such pioneers such a great duo before Ren and

Stimpy before so many others before pinky in

the brain Rocky and Bullwinkle set the stage

for this kind of duo comedy and they're great

characters by themselves So I'm a little disappointed,

but I'm glad that they're at least in the top

20 Yeah, I had Rocky and Bullwinkle at number

7 TV's Mr. Neal had him at number 3 David had

him at 7 Sketch you had it at 8 like I mentioned

one other person had him at 11 Amanda Rocky and

Bullwinkle not on your radar, but do you like

them as characters or did you never really get

exposed to them? I actually watched a lot of

Rocky and Bowie when I was little. My stepdad

loved them for whatever reason. And I loved the

show with all the different, like all the little

sketches, right? All the little storylines are

always happening. I thought it was super cute,

definitely from when I was really young. So.

Um, I think that I had some other characters.

I just kind of booed them out, but I never really

forget about Rocky and me, Bullwinkle. Um, you

guys are my boys, even though you didn't make

my list. We're still homies. Definitely iconic.

As, as sketch said, uh, DJ, what are your thoughts

on Rocky and Bullwinkle appearing here in the

top 25? I love Rocky and Bullwinkle. I mean,

I'm a, I'm a huge fan of puns. I like the narrator

almost equally of Rocky and Bullwinkle. That's

because at the end of the every episode, he'll

have two. titles for the next episode. I just

love that whole dynamic of that show. Again,

way ahead of its time, way ahead of its time,

though, you know, I'm a fan of, you know, Roddy

Dangerfield. So that kind of humor where it's

just the quick, easy pun joke, which they do

like very well. And then you have like the storyline

episodes, then you have the boo -winkle doing

magic trick, all that stuff. I can dig. But I

mean, This is pretty high for them, I think.

I mean, if we're looking at it analytically,

I don't know if they're gonna be, they should

be higher than, you know, even Belle or something

like that or Optimus Prime. I'm glad they're

here. I love those characters, but this is pretty

high for Rocky and Bullwinkle. Dan, they mentioned

as far as a duo goes, pretty iconic. We've already

seen another duo just a couple spots away with

Ren and Stimpy. Are Rocky and Bullwinkle one

of the best pairings of two animated characters

that we've ever gotten? I would say so, definitely.

I mean, they... unlike... I think there's no

question that they go hand in hand. It is also

just a most random combination. It's like, we're

gonna pair up a moose and a flying squirrel.

And it's gonna work. And it's gonna work. Last

time you remember, Bo Mikko tried out his sultry

look on a couple of young ladies who promptly

fainted dead away. Bo Winkle didn't know that

the girls had really painted because they saw

a mouse. Yeah, now he's convinced he's the greatest

actor in the world. Oh, I am not. You're not?

I'm just one of the greatest. But you can't go

to Hollywood, Bo Winkle. I don't want to go rock,

but they need me. You all will be in pictures.

Oh, isn't that terrible? You were born to be

kissed. Come on now, Bo Winkle, you're not...

Just watch me. And snatching up a mattress full

of money earned from his paper route, the movie

-struck moose had left the cottage. Wait up,

Bullwinkle. You're my buddy. I gotta go along

with you. Yeah. No bless, no bleach, eh, Rock?

What's that mean? I don't know. I just made it

up. Now our boys are on their way to California,

unaware that Bullwinkle's mattress full of money

is the target of two pairs of sinister eyes belonging

to... Oh, no. It isn't... Oh, it can't be. Say

the name. Boris and Natasha. Ta -da! Somebody

was playing a song in the background at that

kitchen. Everybody was distracted. The song went...

They're just, I don't know, they're very lovable

and, you know, Bullwinkle is certainly... Yeah,

you know the the goofball and rocky is the one

that's kind of saving the day and I think they

have a really good dynamic back and forth So

I definitely think they're deserving and just

hearing them Come now makes me kind of realize

that there are a lot of like, you know Boris

and Tasha aren't gonna make this list Which is

kind of a crying shame because I think they're

just as equal of great characters that that are

deserving so But I guess it's good to see at

least some classic characters make the top 25

because I was worried that we wouldn't get anything

pre 90s So that's good Yeah, a couple in a row

here with Goofy and Rocky and Bullwinkle, and

maybe a good versus bad bias if we do not see

Boris and Natasha the rest of the way. We'll

have to wait and see. So now we're into the range

here with Rocky and Bullwinkle taking that 20

spot. We're into the top 20 here. Let's go to

number 19. Let's put another check into the adult

primetime animated cartoon section with none

other than our first character from this specific

show, number 19. Bart Simpson. We're talking

about iconic characters, obviously we're putting

him in the group here as one of the most iconic

characters of all time. First appearing in 1987,

voiced by Nancy Cartwright, one of the most iconic

voices of my childhood probably, showed up on

all the lists except for five. Five people could

not find room for Bart Simpson in their top 100.

Amanda You barely found room for Bart Simpson,

putting him in at number 98, but he did make

your list. So what do you think? Is Bart Simpson

top 20 worthy? I did not realize that Bart Simpson

and I were the same age. Little funny. But I

like Simpsons. I kind of wish that my family

would have sat down and watched Simpsons together

or something like that. And then maybe I would

have liked, you know. to spend a little bit more

time with him or something. I just never really

caught it. Isn't it all like six o 'clock at

night on Fox or something like that? Like, I

don't think I was allowed to watch TV during

that time. So maybe I just missed out on that

prime time action. I've seen, you know, quite

a bit of Simpsons all on my own. And I can definitely

see why he's up this high. But, yeah, not one

of my faves. OK. Sketch, you had him pretty close.

19, you had him at 26. So what do you think of

Bart Simpson being in our top 20? Think it should

be in the top 20 Regardless of what you think

of him as a character. He's too tremendously

iconic not to have in your top 100 list You know

Bart Bart's an entertaining character He's fairly

one note every now and then they keep doing the

same kind of thing with Bart and it's frustrating

because it's Always like oh Bart did something

bad and now he feels bad about it and he wants

to redeem himself Yeah they repeat that constantly

ever since like the christmas episode however

many years ago but he's also very entertaining

in his own rights and um a huge icon i'm not

a i'm not a simpsons aficionado but i I would,

am I right to say that he's probably the reason,

at least in the early on part of that show, as

far as why that show was successful? I know a

lot of people might, you know, lean to other

characters as that show progressed, but he was

kind of the selling point to me, if I'm remembering

right, at the beginning of when that show was

kind of up and coming. DJ, what do you think

of Bart Simpson? I mean you guys are right. He's

iconic. I mean who here didn't well, maybe I'm

very old I know everybody in my middle school

had a Bart Simpson t -shirt or a Bart Simpson

lunchbox or Bart Simpson Whatever. He might be

the most marketable fictional character Fox has

ever had and it's funny because as I got older

I don't know if it was just me or maybe everybody

felt this way he started to get overshadowed

by another character on that show which I don't

think that was the intention but at the beginning

it was all Bart it was just following he he was

the character you followed and I kind of ran

out of Simpsons steam years back but the show's

been on for like 45 so I can understand Bart

being this high. I'm surprised he's not higher

because of just the impact that character had

on, you know, pop culture, because he was literally

everywhere. He's in movies. He's referenced in

movies. South Park is making episode crossovers

to just make fun of him. I mean, Bart is a big

deal. Yeah, I'm surprised he's not a little bit

higher too, especially with the number of 90s

characters that we've seen that have really,

um, rise, rose up on the rankings here. And,

I mean, obviously he's been on for decades and

decades, but probably, you know, if you're tracing

him back, you think mainly as him as a 90s character.

Dan, you had Bart Simpson in your top 10. Are

you sad that he's, uh, falling down to the number

19 spot? No, I think, I think that's fine. I

think I was, I struggled where to kind of rank

him. And I think where I ended up ranking him

was large part because he was the focal point

of the Simpsons first success like you mentioned

like when that first show took off it was on

The success of his character. He was kind of

what they used for marketing He's kind of what

he directed what people directed the show towards

was Bart Simpson and he was this like rebel kid

who would do crazy things and things like that

and say, you know had how many sayings like,

you know, don't have a cow man and stuff like

that like which which are Kind of lame today,

but I guess in when when that came out where

we're a big deal. Think of all the Bart Simpson's

dolls and things like that. So he had rubber

puppets. Butterfingers, Butterfinger. He was

like the cool he was a cool kid everyone wanted

to be as DJ mentioned everyone had his t -shirt

So he owned the 90s and yes that show evolved

it certainly opened the door to different characters

and I think in a way kind of shifted focus in

as the show just kind of found new ground and

things of that nature, but Because of that and

look at what the Simpsons led to going forward

and you can certainly see the influence of Bart

Simpson, a lot of other characters as well. So

I think he's certainly deserving. I think this

is a fine spot for him. So it works. I don't

know of anybody that that ever, you know, before

you knew that when you saw the voice of Bart

Simpson and see and hear that voice coming out

of Nancy Cartwright, it's just. It was always

one of the biggest shocks to me early on. Like

the characters from the boondocks was the only

other one. I think it's what's her name from.

Southland, I think Regina King when I heard Regina

King do that But it reminded me of when I first

saw Nancy Cartwright do Bart Simpson's like wait

part of this is a woman Yeah, for sure And Dan

any last thoughts on Bart Simpson, but a surprise

that it took to number 19 to get our first Simpsons

character yeah, that is kind of a kind of a crying

shame a little bit because there are a lot of

great Simpsons characters that kind of deserve

to be on this list, but Again, there's a lot

of great characters probably much in every show

that we're going to talk to you They talk about

or every movie we talked about going forward

that aren't making this up that should it's just

you know 100 sounds like a lot, but when you

expand it it isn't so yeah for sure All right,

let's get to our number 18. Let's go back to

the 104 world of Disney, but let's go to us kind

of like a subsection I always think of it of

Disney that we haven't gone to yet and that would

be to the world of Winnie the Pooh, with Winnie

the Pooh himself at number 18. Obviously first

appeared in a 1926 book, actually. Been around

for a long time, obviously currently most people

know him as the voice, being voiced by Jim Cummings.

But Winnie the Pooh, we haven't had any characters

from that world. Amanda, what do you think of

Winnie the Pooh coming in at number 18? I'm glad

that he's in the top 20. I think that he's been

around a long time and I think that he's crazy

iconic. Who doesn't know who the hell Winnie

the Pooh is or any of Winnie's friends? I think

he can name all of Winnie the Pooh's friends

and they all center around Winnie himself. And

I think what Winnie meant to, you know, like

Christopher and all of his friends really made

him a good character for us. I think Winnie the

Pooh is somebody we like as a very young child.

It's somebody that you can introduce your little

ones to early on and they'll learn some great

lessons. And I think that Winnie is something

that's that represents goodness and like. The

the best of being a child and innocence and I'm

glad that he made the top 20 They made it all

the way up to number four on one of the lists

that was submitted That's the highest that he

was ranked sketch What do you think of Winnie

the Pooh coming in the top 20? Were you expecting

this or had we forgotten about the Winnie the

Pooh characters? I Was expecting food and make

it into the top 25 Okay, I think Winnie the Pooh

Even though there's certainly huge fans of Tigger

and some of the other characters. Winnie the

Pooh is the driving force of that show, of those

shorts, of those movies, except for the Tigger

movie. But Winnie the Pooh, he's just a delightful

guy. He's kind of bumbling, not super bright,

always well -meaning. He's just a great, fun

character. That it is perfect for for young ones

growing up to introduce this warm cuddly character

That can teach good life lessons without being

really heavy -handed. I Think I think we either

who is well deserving of being on this list Alright

another person that had him highly ranked in

you had him in your top ten as well So what do

you think of Winnie the Pooh coming in here at

number 18? Think it's I was worried that he wasn't

gonna make the list as we're going down I'm like

is is he gonna make it is, you know He is not

a type of character that maybe you know could

exist in a very cynical world in the ways He

dares to be just a very sweet character, which

is not super common I mean, you can't really

get that much different when you look at part

Simpson versus Winnie the Pooh there I could

imagine them having a conversation. They both

wear red shirts. They both wear red shirts. Maybe

maybe they're the yin and yang of each other.

Who knows? Who knows? But I love Winnie the Pooh.

He's just a very lovable character. He's a kind

of a goofball, obviously. He has some does some

stupid things, but I don't know. He just he's

certainly been one of the most important animated

characters of all time. So he certainly belongs

on this list. Some could argue, you obviously

there. Like we mentioned take your your maybe

even uh, those that eat themselves that love

um Oh, who's the rabbit dude rabbit rabbit? I

think rabbit. There you go an owl Little piglet

I think the biggest the biggest competition is

probably tigger. Yes easily. Yeah easily. Yeah,

you gotta move certainly I love what i'm glad

he's here. So DJ, are you a Tigger fan or a Winnie

the Pooh fan? I'm a Tigger fan. I mean, but again,

Winnie the Pooh, the diabetic bear with an eating

disorder. I was introduced to him through book

form because I didn't have the Disney Channel.

Apparently, back in the day, kids, you could

only watch Disney cartoons on the Disney Channel.

Whoa. I could, yeah, unless you robbed some kind

of video store or something. But when I used

to read the books, and I was like, oh, Winnie

the Pooh. very, very cute in book form. And then

when I got older, I got to Winnie the Pooh. But

by then, I was already into Tigger and Eeyore.

But you guys are right. He, Pooh is the, you

know, Winnie the Pooh is the, you know, the central

character of that story. You need him. That thing

doesn't work without him there. Even the Tigger

movie, as much of I'm a Tigger fan, I think...

It's almost like the Cars movie when you don't

have Lightning McQueen as a star. It doesn't

feel right. So yeah, I mean, way to poo. This

is super high for him, I think. For me, again,

I didn't grow up on him as everybody else did,

but I didn't think he would be anywhere. Once

we were getting to 25, I was like, well, he's

not going to be in the top 25. And holy crap,

he is. So it's surprising to me. Yeah, a lot

of people, the rankings for Winning the Poo were

all over the board because we had a couple people

who had him in the 60s. I had him 45. We had

three people who had him in the 30s and three

people in the top 10. So, I mean, it was all

over the map when it came to Winning the Poo

as far as where people ranked him. But enough

people had him on the list somewhere for him

to show up at number 18. 17. Number 17, we've

already talked about this company once. So let's

just confirm whether the order is right or not.

Number 17, let's go back to Pixar. And this time,

we'll talk about Woody. Amanda, we already saw

Wally. Now we see Woody. What do you think? So

glad Woody is up here. I think he could have

been higher though in my book, honestly. I think

that he is so much fun. He does a lot. as a character.

I think that he also has, like, a great arc.

And I think he continues to grow throughout the

three movies. Yee -haw! It's you! It's you! It's

you, it's you, it's you! It's really you! That's

me. There's a snake in my boat. Ha! It is you!

Please stop saying that. I think that he changes

in a lot of ways, and I think that he does stay

true to his... His core belief so too and his

love for Andy and I think that makes him Super

genuine, even though he pulls some shy see shit

a couple times He's still you know down for Andy

and down for his friends and has a lot of heart

and we can learn a lot of great lessons from

him like Sharing and how you don't have to be

the center of attention And I don't know a lot

of things. I love them just Dan, when we did

our top 100 animated movies, obviously Toy Story

reigned supreme. So does it make sense that the

leading character from that movie franchise is

in our top 20? Or are you surprised that he's

not even higher? I'm a little surprised. I was

thinking he was probably going to be in the top

10 considering all the love Pixar has gotten

up to this point. I would think that. He would

be a little bit higher. I think he's the heart

and soul of both Toy Story and I think Pixar

as a whole. He probably, looking at the progression

of his character from the beginning of the first

Toy Story movie to the last Toy Story 3, it's

pretty incredible. The new and... Ways they would

find for him to kind of grow and affect those

around him. He does some really shady things

Especially in the first one and sometimes by

accident, but I don't know I think he's a great

character and when you have the voice of Tom

makes behind you It's kind of impossible not

to fall in love with that character So I would

I would think he maybe deserves to be a little

higher, but I'm not surprised that he's made

it this this far Sketch let's say I know it kind

of we've had this debate a little bit before

but when it comes to just within Toy Story in

general We talked a little bit about when it

when buzz came up if you were a buzz fan or woody

fan now you Just to take one person for example

had buzz on your top 100, but did not have woody

So do you think buzz is more worthy of this spot

or does does woody deserve some love as well

in retrospect? No, I should have woody on my

list at least somewhere because woody is the

central component of all three of those movies

whereas buzz is really the central component

of the first one and then He's more of a sad

character He's arguably the more popular more

iconic one, but if you're going by quality of

character Woody Beats out buzz big -time Woody

has a total character arc over all three of those

movies where he starts out as the by the books

guy everything's gotta be just as it needs to

be and he does that all out of love and compassion

and you see how passion can go wrong and then

in the second movie he has another character

who whose passion goes wrong on him and he can

see what kind of horrible things he did to Buzz

in particular but another toys along the way

and he's also just that stern leader that that

keeps them Together through all of the craziness

that happens over those three movies So yeah,

I think Woody should be on this list and My apologies

for not including You diverted some hate I guess

or some accusations on the website at least DJ

Should we see any other Pixar characters? This

has to be, though we've seen some weird things,

this has to be the end of Pixar's run because

I just can't name a better Pixar character. I

think Dan nailed it when he said he's central

to Toy Story and he's central to Pixar. He is

their hood ornament, for Christ's sake. There's

nobody who you're gonna come at me with. that

I think is more deserving than Woody as a Pixar

character. So if we see another one, I'm gonna

be like, who are you gonna give me? You're gonna

give me, you know, again, Frozone? I have no

idea who's gonna come out of the left field to

topple Woody. I think, again, he should probably

be higher just because Toy Story was such a revolutionary

movie and he is the essential thing too with

him in Buzz. So yeah, I think it's, hopefully.

If this is the case, this will be the end of

Pixar's run. But again, if I see Lightning McQueen

or Maynard or anything like that, I'm going to

freak out. Mike Wazowski. Mike Wazowski is going

to come in there. Sully is going to come in.

Never know. Maybe we paired them together and

they got bonus points. I'm not sure. 16. All

right. Let's go to number 16. It's been about,

we've revealed 84 spots and only two. Classic

Hanna -Barbera characters up until this point.

So we're gonna get our third Hanna -Barbera character

coming in at number 16. Also, another duo. So

we'll have to see a little bit about the discussion

as far as duos go and which one should be the

highest rated because we had Ren and Stimpy,

we had Rocky and Bullwinkle. For number 16, let's

go to Tom and Jerry, originating in the 1940s

short. Also more characters that 99 % of the

time... do not have voice work attributed to

them. Tom and Jerry at number 16. Dan, you haven't

talked for a little bit. You had him a little

bit lower down in the upper 30s. So what do you

think about Tom and Jerry, maybe in relation

to them as a duo outranking Rocky and Bullwinkle

and running Snoopy? Hmm. That's a good question.

I don't know about that. Just by design, they're

a little bit more limited in their role. Obviously,

they're kind of the same joke over and over again,

but it's a well -done joke like we talked about

with Wile E. Coyote and Roadrunner. And I kind

of think if we paired those two together, I probably

would have put them, I don't know. Tom and Jerry

are, it's just really well -done slapstick humor.

But I would say, I think Rocky and Bullwinkle

and Ren and Simpy... to me are better as a duo.

There's more to latch onto. So while Tom and

Jerry certainly are important and have have their

place, I think it might be a little high for

me. But again, I'm glad at least we're getting

some hint of our love since we had very little.

So yeah, that's for sure. Sketch, maybe you're

going to give us the other side of the coin because

you had Tom and Jerry at number three. So, what

do you think of what Dan was saying as far as

their rankings as the pairs ago? Tom and Jerry

are such pioneers in slapstick animation and

They're intricate pairing. You can't have Tom

and Jerry separate really you got to have them

for for the whole thing and Tom and Jerry has

had so many reboots reincarnations just mind

-blowing amounts of stuff of Tom and Jerry I

think there's maybe Scooby -Doo has had more

but other than that Tom and Jerry they just keep

redoing that because it's a good idea and it's

never a bad idea and that is why Tom and Jerry

should at least be in the top 10 All right, we'll

have to see if there's agreement or not. I also

had them in the top 10. I had them at number

9. You had them at 3, like I said. David had

them at number 3. Our representative from Behind

the Voice Actors had them at number 11. Amanda,

no Tom and Jerry love for you, just something

that's too old. And like Dan said, maybe a little

bit too one note for you. Or what do you think

of Tom and Jerry? Yeah, I never really sought

out Tom and Jerry. I wasn't super big on them

when I was little, maybe because they didn't

talk and I needed more to stay entertained. I

don't know what that deal was, but it might have

been a little bit before my time as well. I think

it was just a number of factors that really just

didn't draw me to Tom and Jerry. All right. DJ,

I'll ask you a question similar to what I did

with Woody. I talked about if there would be

any other Pixar characters. Do we have any other

duos without mentioning them? Can you think of

any other duos that we would still see? Or is

Tom and Jerry the top of the mountain? Unless

you're going to do Fred and Barney, I don't see

how this is happening. I think they might be

the best. I mean, I grew up on Tom and Jerry.

racist mammy aside. I love Tom and Jerry. Sketch

was talking about incarnations. Tom and Jerry

does not work when they're friends. Tom and Jerry

works when they're trying. to kill each other

and no, I'm not using hyperbole when I mean trying

to murder each other viciously. And anybody,

anytime anybody ever tells me, well, these cartoons

are so violent. I go go back and watch Tom and

fucking Jerry. That is a violent cartoon. I mean,

it was so violent. The Simpsons ripped it off

and used itchy and scratchy. That's what they're

basing it off of. That's the show. That's the

proof how crazy Tom and Jerry was. And sometimes

Tom and Jerry is more. violent, then itchy and

scratchy, which is insane. And they smoke their

shit. Yeah, they're fighting Nazis, for Christ's

sake. Not that Jerry's like, it's super, super,

you know, just dark at points. But I think this

is probably the best duo I can think of off the

top of my head. So no, I definitely I don't think

we're going to have another one from Hannah Barbera.

Yeah, and Tom and Jerry has, to be fair, they've

been under different company banners since they've

been around for so long, but I'm putting them

in with the Hanna -Barbera group here. Going

to our number 15 may spark up a debate that we've

had a few times here on the countdown, but not

a lot. We haven't, we've only had a couple times

where this came up. Number 15. Let's get the

hate mail going for why we're including these

guys, but let's go back to the world of Muppets

and number 15, Kermit the Frog. I'll start because

I have Kermit the Frog listed number one on my

list. And I guess because if I'm including them

in, if we're passive on, like if we decide whether

they're included or not, if you are including

them, to me, he rises all the way up to number

one. I think he's a... more has more levels to

him than maybe some of the other characters that

may still come up in the countdown and for technical

purposes he has been animated four different

times so he was animated in cartoon all stars

to the rescue little muppet monsters muppet babies

and of course family guy i don't know if that's

enough to to make anybody believe that he deserves

to be in this countdown or not but hey We've

ranked three Muppets so far. We've had Elmo,

we've had Big Bird. Kermit the Frog's the top

of the heat for Muppets. I mean, he's the best

Muppet character that's ever been, so if we're

going to include him, I guess he deserves to

be here, but I will let the panel argue counter,

possibly. So, Sketch, what are your thoughts

on Kermit the Frog? If you're gonna include Muppets,

Kermit the Frog is in the top ten. He's the only

Muppet. He's the only Muppet. Yeah, I would even

go as far as that Kermit the Frog cream of the

crop without question He's so versatile. He's

been in so many things. He means so much to so

many people. He's so iconic and He was voiced

by Jim Henson himself DJ bounce off that a little

bit. I mean besides the Muppet debate I guess

does he deserve if we're talking about these

types of characters if we're kind of count those

four animated appearances Does he deserve to

be this high? I hate Elmo. Big Bird's kind of

androgynous. Kermit the Frog is the only puppet

that should be on this list. He is the only person

that comes close to Kermit the Frog is Fozzie

or Miss Piggy. They're distant! Distance second

because Kermit has been doing it on Sesame Street

his own movies animated. He is the center Muppets

take Manhattan the great Muppet caper all that

stuff if you're gonna use a puppet and it's gonna

be a muppet It's got to be Kermit the frog. I

When you told me that you're putting when I heard

the first couple of shows you guys did and I

heard Elmo Elmo Hate them, but if your animals

on there Kermit a frog must be in the top ten

There's time at least hot 25 and he is so yes

Kermit deserves to be here and no one no one

should be higher than him All right, Amanda,

do you expect to see Miss Piggy or Fozzie or

any of these other Muppet characters? Not after

Kermit's falling right here. I don't think so.

A little sad because I think that if we were

going to add Muppets, Fozzie and Miss Piggy should

have been on there. I like Gonzo. Oh, or Gonzo,

yeah. Muppets from space is my shit. Kermit's

not my favorite. Muppet just because I like a

couple of the other corkier ones like Pepe the

shrimp is probably my jam the Swedish chef, you

know But I think as far as like how iconic he

is and one of the best meme subjects ever And

Joe Biden there it's like one and two Michael

Jordan permit the frog Joe Biden Dan in all honesty,

we If what these guys are saying, if he's the

top and the cream of the crop, that means that

we've only included three. So it's not like a

lot of other animated characters lost slots.

Does that make it better or are we just stupid

for including Muppets altogether? It makes for

a fun debate. So there you go. I think that's

at least the benefit of it. Like are you I think

there's no question that kermit the frog is one

of the best characters ever created period Look

at the amount of movies. He's been in TV shows

like he has huge influence and still does today

Rainbow connection is just a great song to begin

with and so like he's just I don't know like

there's something about him that you just automatically

want to root for him and he is just The ultimate

like hero character in a way. So he's certainly

deserving of really if you're doing a list of

characters And he belongs, and I'm glad he's

number one of all the Muppets. Maybe I'm making

a bad gambit, but a gamble, I should say. I think

it's good. I think maybe if we squared away the

Muppet debate beforehand, maybe you'd be higher,

but at least he is where he is. All right, so

we'll let the listeners chime in on that and

be angry or happy. It seemed like a couple times

checking in on the website that it was maybe

50 -50 as far as people that thought we should,

thought we shouldn't. Maybe it's changed since

then, but 14. Let's move on to, we're in our

top 15 now, our number 14. We should also do

separate lists of all the different types of

animals. What's your best, you know, cat, dog,

mouse, bear, whatever it is. Number 14, let's

go right back to Hannah Barbera and add another

one into their column with number 14 being Yogi

Bear, obviously famously voiced by Dawes Butler,

one of the best voice artists of all time, going

all the way back to 1958. Dan, we'll go right

back to you actually. We've not had a lot of

Hanoi Barbera characters, but is Yogi Bear worthy

of being ahead of the ones that we've already

listed? I'm thinking of who. Yeah, I think so.

I think if you're looking at Hannah Barbera,

he's in, he's like we talked about, I mentioned

Mount Rushmore of Disney characters. I think

he's there. You know, he's certainly one of the

most important despite the fact that he has an

awful movie, but you can't really hold that against

him. So I think he, he certainly hugely important.

I mean, I think everyone knows who Yogi, Yogi

Berra. Yeah, that's not the right person. Who,

who he is. Maybe even though he hasn't had the

longevity of some other characters, his impact

was so big at the time that it continues today.

So, yeah. I mean, who hasn't said picnic basket?

Like you go out to the park. Picnic basket. Exactly.

It's just it's still the lexicon of today. I'm

going to bust out of here. How come, Yogi? Every

day it's the same old thing. Look at the bears.

Look at the bears. Look at the bears. Sheesh.

Hey, Pop! Look at the bears! Look at the bears!

Look at the bears! See what I mean, Boo -Boo?

What you gonna do about it, Yogi? I am gonna

get out of this park. But how you gonna get past

the ranger, Yogi? I will use strategy, Boo -Boo.

Watch this. He was ranked all the way up. I don't

think you can say that for a lot of the other

Hanna -Barbera characters. So I think that makes

him deserving. I don't think he's the best Hanna

-Barbera character. I think we'll hopefully get

a couple more before this list is over. But looking

at who we've talked about so far, I would put

him above those. All right. He got all the way

up to number four on TV, Mr. Neal's selection.

So that's the highest he got ranked. He didn't

necessarily get ranked in the top 10 a lot, but.

Every single person that ranked him outside of

one had him in the top 40 So it was just the

number of people that had him Fairly highly ranked

even if there wasn't like, you know top five

or top ten a lot of people had him in the top

50 So that's garnering a lot of the points this

way DJ are you a fan of Yogi bear and him being

in the top 15 if we're talking to all -time characters

I'm thinking I'm not against him being on the

list. I just more or less would think of him

though he had cartoons where he was singular,

I just don't think about him without Boo Boo.

So I'm thinking he's more of a duo. But I mean,

again, I can understand it, because he did have

many animations where it was just him and then

Boo Boo came along later. But I just think Yogi

hits his stride when he's got his guy next to

him, when he has Boo Boo next to him, which is

essentially... the bear version of Fred and Barney.

But I don't mind Yogi. On this list, the 100,

I kind of mind him this high. I kind of mind

him above Woody. Something about that makes me

feel a little, I mean, and I grew up watching

Yogi Bears. Woody, to me, should have been higher

than him. I mean, I agree or disagree. What do

you think about Yogi's placement? I totally agree.

This is way too high, especially above Woody.

Iconic, but if Everett Brew's name were the most

iconic characters ever that's animated, I wouldn't

be like fucking Yogi Bear, top 10. What's that

language dude? I think that he's a fun character.

He's a solid character. I think he's deserving

of the list, but definitely not up this high.

Alright, so a lack of love maybe for Yogi Bear's

sketch. Where do you fall on it? And we had Huckleberry

Hound back when we talked about number 49, Yogi

Bear at 14. Is that the right order between those

two? I think that's the right order between those

two. I can't wrap my brain around people putting

Yogi above Tom and Jerry. I just can't do it,

man. I love Yogi Bear. Yogi bear is a great character

and he's for a time. He was Hannah Barbera's

guy He was he was everywhere Yogi was in all

of those spinoffs. So I totally understand why

Yogi bear is making the top 20 I think he's a

little high But I can't put him above Tom and

Jerry. I just can't do it. He's He's not that

much of a character Overall, he's you know, he's

kind of the straight man, but also a bit of a

goofball and like Like TJ said, it's essentially

the Fred and Barney and Bears. Well, I think

it also opens up a discussion, too, because when

you're doing this type of thing, when you're

thinking of these characters from whether it's

companies or franchises or different things like

that, I think Dan's right in one way where he

says, you know, Yogi Bear would be on the Mount

Rushmore of Hanna -Barbera characters. He is

probably the most iconic character from Hanna

-Barbera. But do you go based on that or do you

go if you start digging a little bit deeper into

the actual characters and and who is the actual

better character? I don't maybe I'm just a little

bit lower on Yogi Bear. I did rank him ahead

of at number 38, but I would technically put

I would put Tom and Jerry ahead of him. I would

put I would even put Huckleberry Hound actually

ahead of Yogi Bear. Bart Simpson ahead of him.

Well, yeah, but I mean, just talking about Hino

Barbera characters in specific, I would even

put Huckleberry Hound ahead of him because I

think. Huckleberry Hound had a little bit more

depth as a character, and depth maybe too strong

of a word there, but a little bit more tune.

You talk real slow. You talk real slow. But also,

obviously, I don't know. It's a tough debate

between Yogi and Huckleberry Hound, but I do

think Yogi is probably the most iconic Hanna

-Barbera character. So I don't know. Where he

places exactly might be up for debate, but I

think he's in the discussion, at least, and he's

got to be somebody that you can consider. On

our countdown, it comes in at number 14. 13.

Number 13. Make another one for the first time

a show has been mentioned. And that would be

the show South Park. And our number 13 character

would be Eric Cartman. I'll go first and apologize

right off the bat because. My only exposure to

South Park is the South Park movie, which I love.

I've talked about it numerous times. I rated

it very high in the top 100 animated films of

all time, but I've never seen a lot of the show.

I wasn't allowed to watch it growing up, and

I just have never been able to kind of just delve

in, and I should, because I know it's a great

show. So for me, trying to rank someone, I knew

South Park was iconic, but for me, I wouldn't

have known which character. to rape. So I will

apologize because Eric Cartman's not on my list

in my top 100. He's the only character we're

talking about today that didn't make my top 100.

So my fault for him not being higher. Don't apologize

to these motherfuckers since he's not on your

list. No, I'm just saying I understand. What

I'm trying to say is I understand his his deserving

like that he's deserving to be in this discussion.

I was just too ignorant to know which character

I should be rating the highest. So second of

all, you weren't allowed to watch South Park.

I wasn't allowed to watch because of butt head,

but I still Watch that shit. Well, I wasn't allowed

to it, but I also wasn't trying. It wasn't one

of those things that I was like fighting against.

Like, I didn't know enough about it. I was just

because I think when you're growing up, especially

when you're young, sometimes you don't necessarily

know. Like, I didn't know how smart it was. I

didn't know how clever it was. All I knew is

a bunch of idiots. And I. Capital letters, idiots

in my school watch South Park. So I was like,

oh, it must not. You know, it's just about. you

know whatever it's just crass and it's whatever

i hadn't been exposed to it so i prematurely

judged it so that's my excuse but amanda we'll

let you go next you had eric carpen at number

62 he comes in at number 13 what are your thoughts

um i don't know about ranking i think that he's

definitely top 50 worthy i don't know where exactly

in that top 50 really this might be a little

high but at the same time i i can kind of agree

with it because The show is so popular. It's

been going on for so long now, and it is smart.

I think that you don't have to be some crass,

ignorant... I swear to God, half the people in

my high school that were watching this, there's

no way they understood what they were watching.

Oh, no, no, no. Definitely not. But then there

was little geniuses like me watching that shit

every Wednesday loving it and loving all the

tie -ins to the social climate and all the things

that had to say. about things that were going

on in the world, people that I knew about, all

the celebrities that were on there. It was super

enjoyable. And I don't think that there really

is another show like it as much as Family Guy

has tried. I think that it has so many characters,

too, that people can like. And I even thought

about rating Mr. Hanky the Christmas Pooh on

here just because his song is so amazing. And...

Who else is gonna, what other show is gonna have

like an amazing Christmas turd as a character?

But I think that it says a lot. I think that

it's funny and it goes to some lengths that other

shows wouldn't even touch with a 10 foot pole

and they're brave like that and they can pull

it off every time. And I... I have a ton of favorite

episodes and episodes that people wouldn't even

think about, like, um, the Pinewood Derby with

Babyfark's McGeezex when they, like, discover,

like, time warp capabilities when he dresses

up like Princess Leia to go, like, steal, like,

a flux capacitor or whatever he does. Like, just

fun stuff and a ton, a ton of characters that...

have lasted and they everybody knows their personalities

and their tendencies and everybody can have a

favorite character and a favorite episode and

it just covers such a range that i wish the listeners

could see how how um all the hand motions that

are going behind this like you are passionate

about this i will say that um this south park

represents also something that was the first

time i ever was really exposed to it and nowadays

it's like a thing because we've seen it a ton

so we might not think about it as much but i

i guess like think of like when lost was on and

people would actually have parties or have people

over to watch Lost together. South Park is the

first show I can remember that being a thing

for, as far as my upbringing and stuff like that.

That's the first time I actually saw people and

heard about people gathering together every single

Wednesday to watch South Park or something like

that. I don't believe anything that you're talking

about when it comes to your town, people that

live there, because there's four people that

live there. Anyway. And all four of them watched

the other card. Shining on this town, damn. They

all got together. I wasn't there. Dan, you had

this higher than anyone else, but it did. All

fairness, Eric Cartman did make, well, if you

count one person out of 11, three people in the

top 10. You had him all the way up at number

two. So is he the most deserving South Park character?

Should we see more South Park characters or should

we have seen more South Park characters along

the way? We certainly should have seen more.

He's definitely the most deserving. For me, South

Park is by far the best animated TV show ever

created. It's long. It has a longevity. It has

the impact and its quality has remained where

I show like the Simpsons and others and Family

Guy hasn't I mean it's still like the the season

like the current season that they're on it's

been amazing and its ability to kind of comment

on the world and the focal point often of that

is Eric Cartman, you know, it is him in his crazy

schemes like he started as this like Archie Bunker

as a child, but he's kind of grown into he's

been so much more and he's just done some truly

insane things like this. Like if you were just

we were talking earlier about, you know, listing

everything Milan has done against everything

that Ariel has done. If you were to list everything

that Eric Cartman was on, you probably would

be arrested and put on some lists because he's

done some really insane things. It's true. To

butters especially but he's also Yes, yes, but

he's always been really funny. They always find

a new dynamic for him Even like he's not the

same joke over and over again where a lot of

characters fall into that They're always able

to find kind of a new wrinkle, you know Make

you think that maybe he's turned a different

leaf or he's I don't know There's always a new

way for him to get laughs and you know I'm thinking

of like the cartoon wars episodes where he you

know has everything you can possibly say wrong

about family guy and he kind of nails it and

it kind of shit that shows you those episodes

kind of encapsulate everything that's great about

him as a character and maybe where a lot of other

characters aren't nearly as as memorable so I

certainly I was hoping you would make the top

ten a little sad that we aren't getting other

South Park characters because there's a lot that

maybe we will but you know Kenny and it's funny

but he's not he's kind of he by design he doesn't

he's not nearly the character of Carmen and some

maybe Stan's dad you get any brandy marsh might

argue is uh around the same level as him but

i don't know i am a little sad he's on higher

but i think he's a a fantastic character dj if

we had created the perfect list uh how many south

park characters would have been in the top 100

oh god that's this is why i think i thought that

Cartman would be lower or maybe not here because

it's almost like a Game of Thrones situation

where there's so many great characters, they

split the vote of each other. But I echo everything

that you guys are saying. The way South Park

works is they use crassness to get you in the

tent. And then by the time you leave the tent,

you're like, wait, you're looking at a social

commentary or political commentary where you

haven't even, in a way you haven't even looked

at before. Cartman is a character, when I first

watched Star Trek, I hated until until the greatest

act of revenge in television history in which

he drinks the tears of Scott Tenenman after making

him eat his own family. That's when I was like,

okay, I like Cartman. There is no, there were

people talk about best revenge of all time. That

has to be, if you have a top hundred best revenge

tales, that might be my top five. He's such a

When Cartman's being like a dick to like, you

know, Kyle or everybody else, it kind of rubs

me the wrong way a little bit. But when Cartman

is finding somebody who's like fake or phony

and calling them on their bullshit is when I

love Cartman. And of course, he is, for lack

of a better term, the Bart Simpson of the show.

He is the biggest outrageous character on the

show. But this is a show, you have a billion

characters. Mr. Hankey, it's Janet freaking Reno

as a teacher. Everybody's great at this show.

Mr. Slave, everybody on the show. That's why

I thought that Cartman would be lower, just because

everybody on the show is great. You name me a

best token. Token which I laugh at every time

because he's just essentially Franklin from the

peanuts. Just I'm the black guy Everything on

that show is great, but Carmen is the big stand

-up Sketch what do you think of the comments

that have been made so far is a character from

South Park deserving to be in the top 15 DJ mentioned,

you know, he is the Bart Simpson of the South

Park series Is he deserving to be this much ahead

of Bart Simpson? What are your thoughts overall?

Think all the commentary this far as it was very

good Explaining exactly why Cartman belongs at

least in the top 20 arguably in the top 15 You

could even argue for top 10 because Cartman is

an ever -changing character yet. He's always

the same and He's always hilarious. He's always

brilliant. He's larger than life. He is Bart

Simpson cranked to 11 and then so yeah, yeah

and Like folks mentioned about how it's great

when Peter Griffin trolls people that deserve

it. Eric Cartman, even more so. He's absolutely

a delight to watch. At other times, you just

love to hate him. He's constantly changing and

yet constantly the same asshole. And the show

itself is absolutely brilliant. well deserves

representation on this list probably should have

some other South Park characters but yeah I I

imagine you know Cartman just he's easily the

most visible most iconic on the most merchandise

what have you so I'm not surprised that he if

he's the only South Park character I'm not surprised

that he's on this list I'm not surprised that

he's this high Because I figured he'd be about

this high Regardless of where I put him on my

list because he is a very notable recognizable

iconic character who's still good Despite how

long this show has been going Yeah, all right,

so Eric Harman the first mention from the South

Park franchise South Park TV series 12 let's

pair that up with our number 12 which is also

going to be the first time well not the first

time second time actually we've mentioned this

show but I cannot think of a better more more

crazy pairing of two characters next to each

other let's go from Eric Cartman to Charlie Brown

oh wow Charlie Brown's the guy that Cartman would

be trolling half of the time So Charlie Brown

makes it at number 12, our second Peanuts character.

I forgot that we already did mention Snoopy last

episode at number 30. So Charlie Brown here all

the way up at number 12, originated 1948 comic

strip, has basically been voiced by about 365

different people because as the Peanuts do they

recast actual children to do the voices every

time and Charlie Brown's been done approximately...

between 50 and 60 times so far. About 57 is the

current number as far as specials, movies, et

cetera, TV series. Obviously iconic when it comes

to the holidays in particular is the iconic enough

to be in our top 15. He's at number 12. Dan will

let you go first. You had him at number eight,

as well as three other people that had him in

the top 10 as well. So what do you think about

Charlie Brown? So you're making up for not ranking

Snoopy by ranking Charlie Brown so high, I guess.

I kind of link him and Winnie the Pooh. They're

kind of around the same line of type of characters,

just the ultimate lovable losers. And they just

can't catch a break. It is weird seeing him next

to Eric Cartman, because I couldn't imagine a

conversation with those two. It's like, oh, you

missed kicking a football. That's what happened

to you? OK, well. I had my period one time when

I'm a guy. My mom does Shizer porn. But you so

he again, I know the word iconics we use a lot,

but he can't deny Charlie Brown and the peanuts

is huge. I mean we're around the time of Thanksgiving

What is one thing people always watch the you

know peanuts Thanksgiving specials and the Christmas

specials and he's a big part of those so Definitely

deserves to be on here. I bring to my head assume

me because I think he is The he is the focal

point of the peanuts. He is the best character

of that show. Oh I think it's good placing. I

mean, arguably a top 10 character, but glad he's

at least falling here. Amanda, what camp are

you in? Snoopy or Charlie Brown? I would say

Charlie Brown, just because I feel more for him.

Like, I feel like Snoopy is kind of out for himself,

and Charlie Brown is just kind of... Scott bad

luck and people I think as much as his friends

like him They still will pick on him because

he can be picked on so I felt bad for him I don't

even think I've ranked him honestly though, but

I think he's definitely just I don't know kind

of kind of memorable just on the holidays for

me Anyways sketch you might be on the opposite

side because you had Snoopy rank much higher

than Charlotte Brown So what do you think about

the peanuts characters that we've seen thus far?

well as usual I heavily waited iconicness and

notoriety and To me when you think of peanuts

you more soon pig the you think of Snoopy More

often than not you're gonna think of Snoopy even

more than Charlie Brown, but as far as character

goes Charlie Brown is a better character. I will

not deny that he the lovable loser and you just

want a roof for him, you know, he's he's the

every man and you You see the stuff that he goes

through and the crap that he has to deal with

and you just like come on Chuck You can do it.

You can get through it. It's it's always nice

uplifting warm feeling whenever you watch the

Charlie Brown peanut shorts So I'm okay with

Snoopy getting beat out by Charlie Brown. I'm

a little surprised that he did but I'm good with

it DJ, do you expect to see any other characters

from Peanuts? And if not, is two characters in

the top 100 enough from that franchise? I guess

so. I don't think so. I'm more of a Linus fan.

I more lean toward Linus. But I understand Charlie

Brown, because unlike South Park or even the

Simpsons, Charlie Brown is predicated on how

all these great characters like Lucy and Sally,

even his teacher, he reacts around them and they

react around him. You need Charlie Brown. He

is the central person of that cartoon or that

series or that comic strip or whatever. You can

make a whole episode about Cartman. You can make

a whole episode about Kyle. I mean... Peanuts,

I think even when you do the great pumpkin episode

and I love Linus. It's still not again That's

a good way to poo situation. It doesn't feel

right without Charlie Brown somewhere there Charlie

Brown and I'm a big fan of peanuts even though

the the movie I didn't like as much as You know,

I'm a big fan of the older more, you know Dry

sense of humor than peanuts is more of a we're

gonna play some pop songs and sing but I think

Charlie Brown is the big the big character out

of there. Above Snoopy, sure, because Snoopy,

like you guys are saying, doesn't really have

a character arc. He's just, you know, he's the

Kramer of the peanuts. He just comes into something

wacky and then he leaves. That's a good description

of that. Or is Kramer the Snoopy? The Snoopy

of Seinfeld, hey! There we go, there we go. All

right, only one more spot left until we get into

our top 10. That means we're at number 11. You

know, a couple times throughout the countdown,

I've been talking about how many TV shows, how

many movies, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

Nobody has been in more things than our number

11. So 97 different television shows, movies,

specials, et cetera, et cetera. Also. Before

today's episode, we'd only had two Hanna -Barbera

characters. We're already getting our third just

from today, number 11, Scooby -Doo. Amanda, what

do you think of Scooby -Doo just missing top

10? I think maybe he should have been in the

top 10. I think that Scooby has been around for

a long time. He's had a lot of reincarnations.

He's had a lot of movies. He's had a lot of...

uh even like celebrities like dude had the globetrotters

on his show and an animated form. So super cool.

I think that everybody knows Scooby -Doo. Super

iconic and one of the cutest little things you

could dress up your kids for on Halloween. Just

gonna put that out there. And I think that he's

somebody that's definitely deserving of a rank

here in the top. Like I said, probably top 10

honestly. All right, so one vote that he should

be possibly in the top ten just looking at it

overall I didn't mention this when I introduced

it but on more lists than anybody up to this

point So even more lists than Darkwing Duck and

Bart Simpson, so only four people left Scooby

-Doo off of their list Sketch another one of

your top ten falling almost got it right though.

You had him at number 90 falls here at number

11 What do you think of Scooby -Doo? I? Think

you should have edged it into the top ten by

iconicness alone perhaps but he's also such a

great lovable character is the heart of the show

and think of all of the shows that would not

exist without scooby -doo i mean that's it's

a lot it's a whole lot not even counting scooby

-doo spinoffs so without question and i would

say the same tom and jerry that you had to have

those characters they had to exist for so many

other things to come after them and despite that

they weren't necessarily topped by any of their

imitators so scooby -doo absolutely should be

in the top 10 i'm okay with it being in 11 i

guess we'll see how the rest of the top 10 goes

dan is scooby -doo the best character in his

own show i don't know i feel like It's hard to

really separate them as characters in a way in

like I don't It's the gang Yeah, I mean I guess

technically he's been in there like this the

scooby -doo has been a lot of different versions

of scooby -doo and there's The people have kind

of changed but he's kind of stayed the same for

the most part So I don't I don't know. I mean

he's a dog who doesn't he who kind of talks in

a little bit. So Is he the best character? I

don't know he's probably the the most memorable

and at least the most interesting and fun. If

you were to look at maybe which animated character

has Have more babies had a stuffed animal of

Scooby -Doo's got to be in the top ten. Weird

qualifier. I did not add that to my list. Garfield's

up there too though, right? Kermit should be

way higher than Scooby -Doo if you go by that.

I was thinking just like Yogi Bear and not Yogi

Bear, excuse me, Winnie the Pooh and Scooby -Doo

seem to be like I just always Yeah, I'm sorry.

I sidetracked you Dan. Keep going. Because they've

never gone away. I mean you can't deny like we

like it he had the character screwy do has Huge

longevity. So certainly has his impact. I guess

this comes to the point where are you ranking

quality of character? I mean over just notoriety

and like for me Eric Cartman blows him out of

the water as a quality of a character. So I think

he he shouldn't be higher than that but I also

can't deny the fact that So many people know

who he is. That's the one cartoon franchise that

refuses to die. It's still making new cartoons

to this day. And he's been a part of all of them,

even the worst ones. So I guess to that point,

you can't deny that he's deserving of being top

15, top 10. So this is a good spot for sure.

He was ranked all over the map. somebody had

him in the 70s, somebody had him in, two people

had him in the 60s, 50s, 40s, 20s, top 10, 30s.

I mean, he was, I think he, probably if we were

to break this down, no other character appeared

in completely different spots more than Scooby

-Doo did. DJ, what are your thoughts on where

he falls and is it just more of the fact that

he's just known or is he a good character as

well? Not only is he a dog that can talk. Not

only is he a dog that can talk that solves mysteries.

Not only is he a dog that can talk that solves

mysteries and smokes reefer. I mean... He's of

course he kind of was the anchor of Cartoon Network

Before Cartoon Network had original programming

for a very long time Scooby -Doo was on like

it was like the Christmas story during Christmas

Cartoon Network was a Scooby -Doo Scooby -Doo

Scooby -Doo Scooby -Doo original programming

Scooby -Doo Scooby -Doo Scooby -Doo Scooby -Doo

I think he's just so iconic of a character. You

got to put him up here. I don't know I can see

people being upset that Cartman is lower than

him, or Snoopy is lower than him, or maybe Garfield.

I just think Scooby -Doo has, somewhere Scooby

-Doo's on right now. I keep making these metaphorical

comparisons. It's like Law and Order. That show

is on somewhere in the world at this point, and

kids love Scooby -Doo. Though he's... Kind of

not a really well fleshed out character. It's

a talking dog guys Yeah, possibly more crossovers

and guest stars or whatever than any other Yeah,

if you go back to the classics and now they're

doing crossovers with like WWE or something I

don't know they have like guest stars galore

Amanda DJ brought one thing up as far as him

being a cartoon dog. It's he the greatest cartoon

dog of all time Who would argue that? I mean,

I'm pretty sure he is like blue's clues She solves

mysteries, but she does not smoke she does not

smoke pot We're gonna put that out there. She

doesn't have more of an acid Like Steve is not

as cool as shaggy he was Steve is a dead didn't

kill Steve off He was going bald. I think Steve

had a record. We're going down a bad path with

this. But I think he is the most iconic animated

dog. Alright, we'll have to wait and see if the

listeners have any dogs that should be ranked

higher than Scooby -Doo. All right, we talked

about this a little bit. Well, first of all,

we're into our top 10. So I don't know how many

of you are like trying to keep tally keep tally

on your you know, your notepad or whatever your

phone like what 10 characters are left. Maybe

some of you have the predictions. I don't know.

We'll have to see how many of them you have right

or if there are some wild cards thrown in here

because we still have 10 characters to go. We

talked a little bit about this earlier when we

talked about Tom and Jerry and Rocky and Bullwinkle

and Ren and Stimpy. Well, we had one more pair

to go, and they're gonna fall right here at number

10. Anybody have a guess as to what pair that

is? I have two guesses. Crickets. Uh, Sketch,

what's one of your guesses? I think the upset

is it's Pinky and the Brain. It is Pinky and

the Brain at number 10. So, Pinky and the Brain,

maybe it's a... thing of the 90s love. Coming

back from 1993, Rob Paulson and Maurice LaMarche,

a lot of people had Pinky and the Brain on their

list. Five people did not, everybody else did.

Pinky and the Brain going all the way up to number

10, only one, I don't know, I'm sorry, three

people had them in their top 10. So somebody

had them ranked 10, somebody had them ranked

seven, somebody had them ranked third. A whole

lot of people had them in the 20s and the 30s.

Amanda? Is Pinky and the Brain top 10 all -time

worthy? Oh man, hard to say. This top 10 thing,

I'm so bad with ranking. It's my own downfall,

I think, when it comes to these lists. But iconic?

Did I spend some time with Pinky and the Brain

when I was little? Yes, quite a bit. So I think

that they have something also that... people

remember. I mean, they all have these lines,

you know, what are we going to do tonight? Or,

you know, any of the weird little sayings in

their songs, it's super rememberable. So it's

hard to say at this point. I don't know. A lot

of us had it in the 20s and 30s. Is that where

they should have fallen or are they top 10 worthy,

Dan? I don't think they're top ten worthy. I

like Pinky in the brain a lot. I think they're

great characters. And, you know, as a person

of the 90s loved them when they appeared on Animaniacs

and when they continued on their own show. But

I think this is a little too high for them. Like,

you know, looking at someone like Tom and Jerry,

as we mentioned, not nearly the longevity of

those characters. And I think they had a huge

impact on the specific time period for an age,

like around our age group. But I don't know if

that's continuing with with kids today with some

of the characters we talked about. So I love

them as characters. They're great. They're funny.

They're amazing together. But you're talking

top 10 animated characters of all time. I don't

know if I'd go that far. I think it's going to

be unfortunate that they fell in the spot because

they're going to end up just getting maybe some

some hate or or some people ripping on them when

they like you said, they are good characters.

I think if they would have fallen like in the

like number 25 or number 32 or something like

that, people would have been, you know. praising

them instead, so I don't know if it's gonna have

an adverse effect on them. DJ, best duo of all

time? No. I... Pinky and the Brain, I think,

deserves credit for being different and original

with their gimmick. Blank goody, you're back!

I've made a yummy dinner! Food pellets with food

pellets! Please, Pinky, I've had a very tough

day. Oh, you have. You've had a tough day. You!

What about my day, Blaine? We always hear about

your day, but what about mine? Divorce this and

divorce that! La -di -la -di -do! Enough! Do

you ever ask what I did today? Very well, Pinky.

What did you do today? Um... I can't remember.

Anything? Not a thing. Now I know how American

Gladius stays on the end. Top 10 animated of

all time, beating out Scooby -Doo, Tom and Jerry,

Ren and Stimpy? I can't see. In the top 50, sure.

I'll even push it to 25, but not the top 10 for

me. I mean, again, I know they have a feverish

fan base, the whole Animaniacs and Freakazoid

and Piggy in the Brain, you know, stuff, but

not over... the likes of Woody or you know stuff

like that. I don't know. So I guess for all fairness

don't be mad at the people that are speaking

on this record. I had Pinky the Brain at 25,

Amanda 31, Dan 32, Sketch 32. So none of us had

Pinky the Brain in top 10. So this is more of

a product of the number of people that at least

rank them and then we had Two people that there

are three people that did have them in the top

ten sketch What are your thoughts on pink in

the brain and where they're coming out here?

I love pinky in the brain. This is way too high

I I wish I couldn't I wish I wish it didn't have

to feel this way, but This is just one of those

weird things It's gonna happen because of the

way these lists are counted and pinky in the

brain definitely Deserve to be I would say top

30 top 25 They're a fantastic pairing, wonderfully

acted, you know, they spun off from Animaniacs,

got their own show. It aired in prime time for

a while, which I feel is kind of a big deal because

that was really uncommon at the time. And they're

definitely very beloved for a generation, but

they kind of just disappeared. So I think they're

very endearing and beloved and should be on this

list. But top 10? Come on. I mean... No. Rocky

and Bullwinkle, Tom and Jerry, even Ren and Stimpy.

I'll take Kermit over Pinky. Oh absolutely Kermit.

Kermit should be top 10. In Amanda style she

would like to know the names of the people that

were skewing this. Who can I blame? So Pinky

and the Brain got ranked at number 10 by the

Talking in Circles. collaboration. Number seven

by Doug and number three by Steve. So three people

had them in the top ten so maybe skewing them

up a little bit. Orson Well's fans right there

doesn't he? Alright let's try to we're all in

unanimous. Nobody was dissenting among us. We

all said this is too high so give us some slack.

Let's move to number nine. Alright our number

nine pick. Let's go back to Disney. We're going

to the world of film or the world of television

or shorts Let's go all the way back to 1934 first

appearing in a Disney short Been around for a

while number nine Donald Duck So number nine

is going to be Donald Duck. I had Donald Duck

ranked higher than anybody. I had him at number

three So I would have put him up a little bit

higher. I think he is My uncle did that! But

think about it too, obviously a lot of people

have done that since, but at the time, the creation

of that voice, who came up with that? That's

absolutely insane. And I don't know, I just -

How the fuck else would a duck talk? Have you

seen their mouths? Yeah, but just to do it exactly

like that, now everybody thinks that's how a

duck would talk, because of Donald Duck. But

before that, nobody would have thought that.

Donald Duck, number nine, I would bump him up

a little bit higher, but at least he's in the

top 10. Maybe some of you guys feel differently

though, because I'm obviously the one that ranked

him highest. Amanda, no love for - Donald Duck

not on your list is he deserving top 10 or not?

I don't know maybe top 25 maybe top 15. Alright

so no love from Donald Duck from Amanda. Sketch

you weren't too far off you had him in the top

20 or no you had him in the top 10 you had him

number 7 so you're with me you think you should

be right where he's at or a little bit higher?

I think you should be a little bit higher I think

you could make the argument for top 5 for Donald

Duck because like you said He is the most entertaining

Disney character bar none. He's way more entertaining

than Mickey arguably more entertaining than goofy

I waited both of them above him because of I

Think honestly popularity more than anything

else but Donald He's been in so many things.

He's always hilarious You know, they they've

tried the different layers with him, you know,

he was an uncle He took care of the boys at you

know quack pack of all things But Donald duck

he's he's the every man that can't catch a break

and unlike Charlie Brown who takes it in stride

and maybe gets a little bummed out Donald duck

fights back and Everybody's got that little nerve

in them that appreciates when Donald duck loses

his shit well it was also it was also something

that you didn't get to see a lot of like it was

it was showing more of a real i don't know like

kids you get to see this person lose their temper

you're getting to see this person go crazy and

stuff like that but i don't know there's almost

a more realness to it but also more of a like

almost like a teaching opportunity with it like

i don't i just think he's uh A more interesting

character maybe. I don't - Isn't Darkwing Duck

already on here though? So isn't that technically

Donald fucking Duck too? No. No, no, no. What?

Need to go back - Slow down. Slow down. That's

Drake Mallard. Completely different duck. It's

a completely different duck? I thought it was

the same goddamn duck. No, it's a duck. Darkwing

Duck can speak in actual sense. Wow, do you think

all ducks look the same? Oh, whoa, what are you

saying here? What are you saying here? You people.

What do you mean, you people? You ducks. You

ducks. DJ, what do you think? We were all unanimous

that Pinky and the Brain did not deserve top

10. So far, we've had two people say Donald Duck

deserves it. Where do you fall on? Donald Duck

in or out of the top 10? You've been going about

this all wrong. This Donald Duck, he's a sailor.

He's in New York. We get this guy late. We have

no problem. No. You go with Donald Duck because

he's Donald Duck. You have to have him in the

top 10. And when you get into the top 10, you're

picking out people like Donald and I don't know

if I won't spoil any other ones. But you have

to understand it. It's not like, you know, he's

way out of, this is way out of left field. And

I agree, he's probably the most entertaining

one of the Disney characters. Though I was. When

I was growing up it was you're a Donald fan or

you're another I kind of duck and and I was an

other iconic duck fan, but again, I understand

don't duck it because he was When it comes to

marketing, it's between him and goofy and the

other rodent that runs that that whole amusement

park So yeah, I understand don't duck being tapped

in Dan maybe though Amanda didn't think so as

far as top ten were the three field Since then

have said yes. Where do you fall on the Donald

Duck debate? I was never a huge Donald Duck fan

to be honest with you always found him a tad

bit annoying more so than entertaining like like

you guys did I mean no denying again He's hugely

a part of the world of Disney and a big part

of their success so I don't know if I would put

them in the top ten though like I would think

goofy is a little bit more of like I can't a

character than Donald maybe that's For debate,

but I just I Don't know where I don't know if

I would I would put them up this high against

some of the other characters that we've talked

about today Like, you know a Charlie Brown or

an Eric Cartman or those I feel like there's

more like I would bring those higher than a Donald

Duck personally, but Alright, so we'll have to

wait and see what people think about Donald Duck

being our second entrant in to the top ten When

we get to our number eight pick here I will say

that this is probably the pick I'm most proud

of as far as our list because Dan you had said

some comments earlier about Maybe thinking that

some of the classic characters would get forgotten

would be forgotten, and I am completely shocked

that this character made the top 10. I think

it's completely worthy, but I would have never

predicted, based on our more modern bias, it

seems like, or even like a 90s bias, that this

character would somehow find enough votes to

get in. Also, a character that's making our top

10 that not a single person put in their top

10. So nobody had this character in their top

10, but enough people had him high enough to

get him in here. We're going to - That seems

kind of bogus. Well, he also has appeared on

more lists than anybody except for Scooby -Doo.

Him and Scooby -Doo are so far on the most lists.

Going all the way back to a comic strip from

1929 at number 8, let's talk about Popeye. I

would have expected him to be lost in the shuffle

and not have appeared at this point, or to be

way down on the other end of the list. But enough

love for Popeye to get him in to the top 10.

I'm not saying necessarily if he's worthy of

top 10. I didn't vote him there. I put him at

number 39. But I'm just shocked that our group

put him up this high. Dan, what do you think

about Popeye being at number 8? Wow, that was

unexpected completely. To be honest with you,

wow, Popeye. I mean, he's a fun character for

sure. Certainly, you know is influential, but

I don't know top ten Seems a little bit high.

It just it's high and odd. I guess Because I

understand thinking the brain being ranked this

high Popeye be ranked this high. I got it's hard

to really quantify why that happened I guess

everyone just knows Popeye and is aware of him

as a character. So I guess you gotta give him

points for that. So How many people that had

that jotted down what the top 10 was going to

be have already crumpled up their piece of paper?

Bracket buster. Yeah. Pinky and Brain didn't

do it. Popeye might have. DJ, what do you think

of Popeye the Sailor Man and the spinach eating

muscle toting sailor self being at number eight?

You've been going about this all wrong. Popeye,

he's a sailor, two sailors back to back. I'm

a huge fan of the My Guilty Pleasure is the Robert

Altman Popeye movie with Robin Williams. So I

have an affinity for Popeye, but man top 10.

That's crazy. I'd have never in a million years.

I thought I'm like waiting for you to say like,

you know, I don't Felix the cat or something

crazy old Popeye. I'd have never seen this coming.

So I think he's a little bit too high. I like

Popeye. I damn sure like Robin Williams Popeye.

So, uh, okay. I think he should probably be in

the hundred, but not the top, not, not the top

10. I can see a lot of people saying maybe not

top ten I do like that we're getting such a classic

character though in this episode like you know

along with likes of Tom and Jerry Rocking Bullwinkle

etc. I was afraid that Some of those might be

left in the dust sketch you had pop at 17 He

comes in here in our top ten at number eight.

What do you think a? little too high for Popeye

Obviously heavily weighted in his iconic miss

everybody knows the song everybody knows the

character everybody knows spinach Who who learned

about spinach from Popeye pretty much everybody?

And then we're disappointed to find out that

spinach is not nearly as cool as Popeye makes

it out to be but it is tasty Also the also the

only member from King features if we're gonna

go with the company that that originally produced

Popeyes Yeah, interesting Popeye at number eight

DJ expecting olive oil or blue dough to appear

still I think Pluto might sneak in and Shelley

Duvall does not want anything to do with this

list. What about that guy who asks for a cheeseburger?

Wimpy? Wimpy on this list? No, no, no. I would

gladly pay you. We could have another Robin Williams

character if that means anything. All right,

we'll have to wait and see if that's the thing

or not. Seven. All right, so let's go to our

number seven. We've had diverse opinions about

what's making our top 10 so far. I would like

to think that this one would be unanimous. Let's

get another Looney Tunes character in here at

number seven. DJ, you kind of mentioned the rivalry

here. Let's go with Daffy Duck at number seven.

Two ducks in the top 10? Damn right. Damn right.

You better believe it. Look at my duck. DJ, why

Daffy Duck ahead of Donald Duck? Okay, well other

than the obvious and one's a black duck and one's

a white duck I'm going with that because he was

he's played more like multiple cool ass characters

a duck Dodgers a scarlet pumper nail a duck Daffy

ducks relationship with Bugs Bunny Made me like

Bugs Bunny and I'm not big. I'm not a Bugs Bunny

fan But when they interact together, it's it's

the only time I like bugs and I like their kind

of sibling robbery Donald was kind of like, you

know, the the posh duck like that. Oh, you like

Donald Duck. Daffy was the gritty duck that was

like, you know, I'm doing like 15 shows on Broadway

a week. You know what I'm saying? That's Daffy

Duck. Daffy was the hardworking duck. And he's

just funny. And I just like every time he has

an interaction with a Looney Tunes character,

it's great. If it's Porky Pig, as we mentioned

on the last show, or Bugs or Marvin the Martian.

or any of these guys, Yosemite, freaking Sam,

duck season, rabbit season. Daffy Duck's awesome.

He's awesome. All right, so one vote for Daffy

Duck. Five people not finding enough room in

their top 100 to put Daffy Duck anywhere. What?

What do you think about Daffy Duck, and is he

deserving to be in our top 10? I definitely think

he's deserving of spot on this list. I think

top 10 is a good range for him. He's super iconic,

and dude jabs out and spits everywhere. He's

a real dude with real emotions, and I think that

DJ made a good point with his interactions with

everybody. I think that's what made him super

fun was how he... Interact with everybody else.

He's kind of a dick. But I mean, he's still like

a super likable dick like Neil Patrick Harris

He's a big dick So with Popeye, we said nobody

had Popeye in their top 10. Five people had Daffy

in their top 10. I had Daffy at number five.

Rice and Curry had him at number nine. TV's Mr.

Neal at number two. David at number five. Sketch

at number five. So a lot of love for Daffy on

the panel. Dan, where do you think, as far as

Daffy Duck being in the top 10, is he more deserving

than a couple of the other ones we've mentioned

so far? Oh, definitely. I would say more than

Popeye. sure and you know, he's just like an

interesting character in the sense of like He

kind of like actively try to get people not to

like him, but you still kind of did He wasn't

really a villain. He wasn't really a hero. He

kind of Sometimes he was a straight -up, you

know hero depending on the version of him But

like he kind of was in the middle in some ways

and he had a great obviously rivalry with a character

We'll probably talk about eventually today. But

yeah, definitely doc is I would I don't think

you could have a top 15, a top 10 without him

being on there and I think I prefer him much

more to that of Donald Duck because I think there's

much more to him as a character and I think he's

a lot more funnier and a little bit more intelligent

than people maybe even realize. And he's driven

by his ego. His ego will take him to a great

place or a horrible place, but he's always driven

by his ego. And what you're just saying, Dan,

how until I think he's more, he's just smarter

than though he would end up losing. I just see,

I've always saw him as smarter than Donald. Donald

was just kind of like, I have a temper. I'm gonna

go crazy because shit ain't going my way that

Daphne's like look man. I'm a I'm a stage actor

I'm a space cowboy You can make like a Daphne

duck like Corby you enthusiast Comparison he's

Larry fucking there's nothing yeah, so he is

the Larry David of the Looney Tunes Also another

character that they weren't afraid to show, you

know, some frustration, some anger, some losing

the temper type thing. So definitely appreciate

that about Daffy Duck as well. Yeah, we might

have to do a whole list of ducks at some point,

since we have some confusion between Darkwing

and Donald and Daffy and all the other ones.

I'm sure we could easily get a top 10 of just

ducks. So there's already a ducks cartoon in

the 90s we can talk about. Oh, man. Speaking

of Darkwing, justice ducks. All right, let's

get to a next selection here number six Let's

go to another prime time cartoon character presence

and Let's also go back to Not seeing a lot of

love throughout the top 100, but maybe get some

love here with a Hanna Barbera Let's go to the

OG as Amanda would call him. Maybe when it comes

to these types of characters, let's go to Fred

Flintstone for our number six pick. Going back

all the way to 1959, early days of cartoon animation

on television. Dan, we'll start with you. You

had Fred Flintstone just on the outside of the

top 10 at number 12. Some people are similar.

We had, let's see, two people at 12, one person

at 17, one person at 18. About three people had

him in the top 10. What do you think of Fred

Flintstone coming in here at number six, and

is he top 10 -worthy? Yeah, he kind of he kind

of started the archetype for a lot of characters

that come uh, the you know the Kind of bumbling

dad, but still he he kind of messes up, but he's

still trying, you know His heart is in the right

place For for most of the time and obviously

the flintstones as a cartoon Has a huge impact

and arguably one of the greatest cartoons of

all time and he's a big part of that too. So

Think he's definitely deserving of top ten for

sure so and I would also mention like if you

want to see a very different version of Fred

Flintstone read the current DC Flintstone comic

it is Insane what they do with that comp. It's

like it's looking at the world of the Flintstones

in a completely different, darker, adult tone,

but it's magical. Is he hitting Wilma in the

head with a club and dragging her to a cave?

Is that what's happening? No, it's talking about

social and cultural issues from gay marriage

to wars and PTSD. It's insane, but it's a brilliant

comic. But if we're talking about Flintstones,

I had to get that in. Thanks. I haven't mentioned

much about the points that people have had but

we started today with Wally who had 518 points.

Fred Flintstone, well let's just go to Daffy

Duck last time, 759. So we've gone from 518 up

to 759 points for Daffy Duck. Huge jump between

Daffy Duck and Fred Flintstone. 759 all the way

up to 839. So there was a huge gap here between

our top six and the rest of the field. So Fred

Flintstone at number six. Amanda, what do you

think? We've talked about some of the other we've

talked about Archer, we've talked about Peter

and Stewie Griffin, we've talked about Bart Simpson.

Coming all the way back to 1959, before all of

them, Fred Flint is he deserving to be in the

top 10? I think so. I think he would arguably

beat those guys out. I do think he is like the

quintessential 50s, early 60s dad, like going

bowling and all the roles that everybody plays.

I think that it definitely said a lot about the

social commentary that was surrounding that time

period. So I think that's pretty cool to think

about, something that you wouldn't really think

about as a kid either. I always was pissed at

him because he put Dino out for the night. I'm

like, dude, how are you going to do that to him?

Just let him stay inside. That's super mean to

do to your animal. But he was a freaking dinosaur.

So I get it. You don't lock him right back out.

He was like outside for like five minutes. No.

He's like, no, he got you. Oh, you're right.

Shit, that's right. But I liked more the, I don't

know how much flag I'm making for this, but I

liked the live action movies. So much as a kid,

I wish I owned those right now so I could go

watch them. Love them a lot. Love them way more

than the cartoon. John Goodman was born to play

Fred Flintstone. I will say it. It's true. Yes.

Halle Berry of an M .O .V .E., but I think that

the cartoon, definitely iconic, who doesn't know

the Flintstones, who doesn't know the Flintstones

song, and I'm pretty sure that this shit should

still be. played for kids because it's it's just

good wholesome fun with the yeah so the prehistoric

edge prehistoric edge sketch what do you think

about fred flinstone making our top 10 i don't

know if it's good wholesome fun because fred

flinstone was a schemer and he got he was always

trying to do something that he knew he shouldn't

be doing and he didn't want his wife to find

out it's you know everybody has there's this

term now it's it's a flintstones moments which

obviously like a honey honeymoon there's moments

but fred flintstone is our type of the bubbling

dad sitcom character he's totally iconic they're

still selling those fruity pebbles and the flintstones

chewables and even though the show I don't think

the show is sadly I don't think the show is on

even boomerang anymore maybe like really late

at night yeah yeah it is on really late at night

but it was off for a while which was infuriating

but uh I will get into that uh Frifflinstone

so tremendously iconic and there would be so

many characters that would not exist without

him And he's the OG. DJ, we talked about with

South Park that we only had the one character

up to this point, Eric Cartman. Should we have

had more Flintstone characters up to this point?

Should we have had a Barney or a Wilma or any

of those? Or is Fred the only one deserving to

be anywhere in the top? I think we're fine with

Fred. I think we're fine with Fred. I mean, though,

again, like I said earlier, I was going in there

thinking it was going to be Fred and Barney because

they are. you could see him as a duo, but I think

Fred is, he's good enough, I think, because even

if you slide in Dino because of iconography,

Dino doesn't do anything other than that. He's

really. you know, maybe Captain Caveman. I think

Fred is the major Flintstones character. And

like, Dan made that comparison to Daffy Duck

with Larry David. And I know that Fred is the

honeymooners. That's essentially the prehistoric

honeymooners. I always looked at it as a prehistoric

marriage with children. I always looked at him

as the Al Bundy character because of the scheming

and all the other stuff. So, but yeah, yeah,

Fred Flintstones is great. I'm still kind of

iffy on, you know, this high, but it's fine.

Well, I'm interested to see now. We only have

five spots left without actually saying any of

the names. Amanda, do you have any clue what's

coming out of the top five? Do you have it narrowed

down to five characters we haven't talked about,

or are you just confused as all hecked at this

point? Honestly, I have not even really been

trying to predict anything because I would just

be super freaking mad, pretty sure. So I just

don't even have any hope, so they can't be crushed.

But I'm pretty sure there's still at least one

more super iconic Disney character that we're

gonna get, probably another Looney Tunes character,

at least for sure, those two. Dan, outside of

having a couple of them maybe nailed down, do

you think you have all five of them nailed down?

I think so. I don't know for sure. Okay. DJ,

what do you think? You got all five nailed down

or are you using you? Pretty sure I got three

of them. I got I'm pretty sure I got three of

also what they are But yeah, there's two that

are fringing that I'm trying to figure out and

the fact that we had Popeye so high I have no

idea what's coming up next Sketch, what do you

think? How many of the five do you have down?

I think I'm debating on the fifth one because

it could go either way and I'll be here either

of them doesn't make it honestly I can't wait

to hear if some of these that you guys have nailed

down don't make it, and which ones they are.

We'll have to wait and see on that. Five. But

let's see if we can bust your brackets right

off the get -go with our number five. Maybe,

maybe not. Number five? I don't know if it was

fair or not to include duos, but if people had

a problem with duos, then they're definitely

going to have a problem with trios. Number five?

Let's do all three of the Warners from the Animaniacs.

Yakko, Wacko, and Dot. So the Animaniacs Yeah

from 1993 the 90s love maybe that's the one bias

that we're exposing here with this list We always

have one to the superhero, but this time maybe

it's just straight nineties bias on the top 100

cartoons Yeah, I think it was it was probably

was it for sure in the top ten If I remember

I'd have to I'd have to go back and look at that

So looking at Animaniacs four people left him

off of the top 100 altogether But a lot of love

only two people had him in the top ten So a lot

of people had him in the 20s the 20s Let's see

about four or five people had him in the 20s

six people had him in the 20s So a lot of love

maybe not a lot of people that would have had

him this high But a lot of people that had them

fairly high on their list overall. Let's start

with you Amanda, surprised that we're talking

about Animaniacs in the top five. Ah, kind of,

yeah. I can see top ten. I don't think top five.

I think there's a ton to like about their show.

Super fun characters. But, yeah, I don't know.

I'm a little confused on that one. Sketch, given

the, generally the lack of Looney Tunes characters,

Thus far, are you surprised that kind of the

90s version of those types of characters from

the WV is is ranking this high? Once pinky in

the brain showed up where they did. I was like,

oh here we go. The Warner's are gonna be in the

top ten Yeah The thing about the Warner's is

they're really entertaining and you kind of have

to have all of them too and I think they should

be lumped together but Man top ten top top five

that's a stretch. I mean 90s nostalgia ahoy,

but Man, that's it's going a bit far like like

with pinkie in the brain, but I would put the

the Warners above them because Various things

but the Animaniacs wonderful characters. I adored

that show I think they should be the highest

rated characters in their own show, even though

there's a plethora of fantastic characters from

that entire franchise. Ah man, I feel bad for

not wanting them in the top 10, but they don't,

they shouldn't be in the top 10 because their

whole shtick is that they are like a remake of

existing characters. they're really good at that

and they subvert that to an extent but they're

not better like I can't put the Warners above

Daffy Duck yeah that's crazy that's absurd I'm

this is this is the maddest of the list that

is DJ if we were ranking top trios in animation

history should animaniacs be in the top five

of that list you gotta have to give me some trios

I guess I guess Louie I would put above the animaniacs

if you're gonna go trios Where the chipmunks

at or the chipmunks or whatever? Yeah, I put

them over We are the warners I mean again you

can copy and paste my piggy in the brain comments

on this you know put it right here because I

Again, I was never a huge Animaniacs fan, but

it's obvious that your listeners are, so the

fact that you have Peaky in the Brain and then

the Animaniacs is right next to one was crazy.

Beating out people like Daffy and Donald Duck

is just mind blowing to me. I think what it's

more of a product is, like Sketch is saying,

it's kind of how the list is compiled, but I

think it's the fact that... There's more agreement

that they belong in the top 100. There's not

as many people detracting from that. There's

not people saying, you know, leave them all the

way off the list. And because there's enough

people agreeing that they're at least should

be in the conversation of 100 that they fall,

end up falling this high. It is obviously a very

cleverly written show and very intelligent people

behind it. So I feel bad again. It's like pinking

the brain like we talked about. They're going

to get hate from this and that shouldn't really

necessarily be the thing. It's more of an agreement

that they're at least great characters that should

be talked about. I wish they would have fallen

maybe in the 20s or 30s like a lot of people

had them ranked because that might have spared

them a little bit. Dan, what do you think of

this whole thing? Is this one of the five that

you had nailed down? Mean it's one that I figured

after Looking at the list so far seeing a lot

of the loves when starkwing duck was as high

as he was it was like, okay 90s is gonna reign

supreme in a lot of ways and I like the anime

acts and again I'm gonna kind of the same drum

that's been beating but like they're very great

for that show was great, but You know Flintstones

like the first Flintstones the character that

has remained through generations Snoopy Steve

said Scooby -Doo, you know the character the

characters we're talking about are Hugely influential

through a huge period of time I don't know if

that's the same with the Animaniacs like if they

will have that same impact You know will they

be as looked upon as fondly in 30 years from

now as the Flintstones? Is is today? I'm not

sure maybe from our generation Yes, but I don't

know if it if like kids today watch the Animaniacs,

you know, I know it's on Netflix So maybe they

do that way, but I think it's a very it's It

was great for its time and I think it's you could

argue me with those they deserve top 20 top 30

maybe top 15 but I don't think that they're in

the same league as some of the characters we're

talking about within this top 10 for All right,

so we'll have to see we we broke some maybe broke

some brackets with with Animaniacs Maybe we'll

break some more with our number four pick. It's

gonna be hard to say I think somehow I'm impressed

by a couple of you because I think a couple of

you have actually have this nailed down just

from some of the comments that we've seen Prior

in the countdown, but I would have thought that

this one might have thrown some people for a

loop let's go to our number four pick and go

back to again the wonderful world of Disney and

We've had a lot of Disney characters obviously

more than any other company and most of them

have been from Disney movies. This is the highest

rated amongst that subsection. We're going to,

from 1992, The Genie. So The Genie from Aladdin

coming in as the number four best character of

all time when it comes to animated characters.

Dan? Missed it by one spot. You had him at number

five. So what are your thoughts on Jeannie coming

in here at number four? So basically Robin Williams

has two spots in this top ten of animated characters

I mean it is the Jeannie is pretty much The the

product of an amazing casting choice where you're

like, okay Let's make one Robin Williams into

an animated character and it works and it's genius

and I'm a huge fan of Aladdin and maybe my choice

is of him playing putting a genie so high it's

because of that but he you know amazing songs

so hilarious so funny you know a reason i think

the reason that movie works in a lot of ways

and but i think there's also be he's there's

some more to him than all the jokes and you know

he has a great arc and seeing kind of where he

starts and seeing this desire for him to be free

and things like that so in a great friendship

Will give you such a crick in the neck hang on

a second Does it feel good to be out of there

Nice to be back. Ladies and gentlemen. Hi, where

you from? What's your name? Aladdin Aladdin.

Hello and nice to have you on the show. Can we

call you Al or maybe just in how about Ladi?

You're a lot smaller than my last master. Either

that or I'm getting bigger. Look at me from the

side. Do I look different to you? Wait, wait

a minute. I'm your master? That's right. He can

be taught. What would you wish of me? He ever

impressive. The one contained. But never duplicate.

Duplicate. Duplicate. Duplicate. Duplicate. Duplicate.

So and I love the animated cartoon series as

well. And that continued. So I guess everything

I said about the Animaniacs, maybe people could

argue with the Genies. Again, a 90s character.

So maybe that's a product of this list. We're

seeing a lot of the 90s love continued. But I

think for the Genie, he does deserve where he's

placed and because solely because of Robin Williams.

I mean, the guy, he nailed it. And it's I think

I think Genie is going to be is going to be one

of those characters that lives on for generations.

We talked about the points a little bit. Fred

Flinson had 839, we went up to 867 for the Animaniacs,

and all the way up to 907 for the Genie. Dan,

you had them at number five. DJ, your group at

Simplistic Reviews, had them at number three.

Talking in Circles had them at number four. You

also ranked number 10, 11, 11, 12, 19, and then

22, and two people had them in the 50s. Four

people had them off of the list completely. Sketch,

you were one of the ones that had them in the

50s, so one of the lower ones for Genie. Are

you surprised? that he's all the way up into

our top five? I'm a little surprised. I think

certain events may have waded into this. But

looking at the character, specifically the character

here, he's a fantastic character. Wonderfully

written, wonderfully performed, both by Robin

Williams and the cartoon guy, Dan, I can't pronounce

his last name. Dan Castellaneta? Yeah. Both of

those, obviously Robin is so much better, but

both of them, very good performances, really

drive the show and the movies, and everything

about him is hilarious, but he's also the heart

of the movie, and he sticks with you, the song

sticks with you, totally iconic character, so...

DJ... One of the people I don't believe was thrown

off by Jeannie being in the top five was you.

I think you had this one nailed down. So what

are your thoughts on Jeannie being here in number

four? I mean, Robin Williams is the closest thing

that we got to a real life cartoon character

when he was kicking around. And I know he played

the fruit bat in Fern Gully. But the Jeannie

is the first character that I think that had

like a, it's arguable, but I think it was the

first major celebrity. playing an animated character,

and it allowed Robin Williams to be Robin Williams.

Like, no restrictions. Are we disregarding Gilbert

Godfrey here? Eh, Gilbert Godfrey. Yes! I read

somewhere they were animating, like, the first

bit where he's playing the genie in the sky,

spoiler alert. They animated around his bits.

They made him do things, so... uh, they filmed

it and then they would animate it just to add

it in the genie to me other than like, uh sketch

is saying he's the heart of the freaking movie

It's we hadn't seen a character that that wasn't

a lunatunes character that could literally just

do anything He's making references to jack nicholson

In the middle east and god knows what century

that was taking place. So yeah, it's just a genius

is awesome and Like you're saying if you want

to see how great of a character is watch the

animated movie and watch it when it's not Robin

Williams It's such a that character in that movie

was so like amazing to me That's like when we

were having a discussion about it. I was like,

well Genie's got to be top ten. He's got to be

top five I guess he might be top three and that

I couldn't think of anybody else other than the

you know, the two people who I still think are

on this list better than them because He is essentially

what makes that movie go. Aladdin's a great character,

fine. Jasmine's fine, but it's the genie you

remember from Aladdin. Amanda, we talked about,

I mentioned this is gonna be our highest Disney

film character. So if I would've told you at

the beginning of the list that it wasn't gonna

be a Disney princess, it wasn't gonna be a Disney

villain, it wasn't gonna even be the main protagonist

of any of the films, but that our highest ranking

Disney film character would be a supporting character,

would you believe me? If I would have been thinking

straight then yes, because the genie is Definitely

deserving of this spot. He is I don't know anybody

who's like I don't like the fucking genie Yes

Nazis and fascists and whoever else but I think

that Robin Williams Was the fucking genie in

like real life just because he didn't have the

right kind of superpowers Doesn't mean that he

wasn't the gene personified. What does the genie

do? He he morphs himself around does all these

like impersonations and impressions and Even

different little inflections of his voice and

his his physical comedy that really was Robin

Williams and it definitely drove the film he

has Huge range in this. I mean you can see him

in all different kinds of extremes and in the

middles with his emotions if if you're looking

when towards the end when the whole thing is

transpired transpired with Jafar and he's kind

of forced to do these things for him you see

how it affects him and you see how all these

things around him are affecting him and how these

relationships with Aladdin I guess is mostly

with Aladdin's relationship with him really does

affect him and how he affects everybody else

around him as well. It's an amazing character

and I think that there's no arguing him in the

top five. Speaking of Aladdin, just real quickly.

We obviously had Aladdin show up much earlier

in the countdown. When we were talking about

villains, you brought up Jafar. Anybody surprised

that Jafar's name not thrown into the mix with

Cruella de Vil, Scar, and a couple of those other

villains that we got? Yes. I mean, Scar had a

song, guys. Yeah. Jafar didn't have a song. Jafar

was like a weird perv, though. He definitely

took that evil evil um i don't know his his evil

nature he went there man like and mustache twirling

villain But I think it's Robin Williams fault,

because again, when you remember Aladdin, you're

not thinking of Jafar, you're thinking of the

genie. You're going to think of Iago before you

think of Jafar. Yeah, exactly. No second movie,

Jafar's Revenge or whatever the fuck it is. Oh,

jeez. Are we going to the sequels? Disney sequels

have been mentioned now, folks, in a top 100

animated characters. We've already mentioned

those, I'm pretty sure. It's never a good thing.

Don't blame me, sir. All right let's move on

then to our number three pick. Let's see how

many people have the top three right. We've seen

the show one time come up today. Let's see it

for a second time. We've also seen this type

of character represented before. Our number three

at 934 points more list than any other character

on the entire countdown. Only two people left

this character off of their list. Homer Simpson.

Number three, so mr. Fridley sent and JD and

the guys from in session film Not sure what you're

thinking that putting Homer Simpson in your top

100. Those are the only two people that left

him off And you you had Homer Simpson number

four. He comes in at number three. What do you

think? What do you say about Homer Simpson really

and we talked about Bart basically where the

Simpsons started as his show and then I think

it got better when it became Homer show and you

got a lot more complex stories and I think you

can do a little bit more with with Homer and

we talked about lovable losers and If you're

he's got to be there too as well. There's always

just something about him though And if you're

looking at one of the most influential animated

characters in the world of television, he's probably

top on that list. So I think if he was not in

the top five, this list would be irrelevant.

So I'm glad I'm glad he's at least at least number

three. Interesting, too. I said he's on more

lists than any other character sketch. Are you

surprised that there was not a single character

that we could get a unanimous vote on when it

came to animated characters? Nobody, no character

appeared on every single list. Is that surprising

to you that the closest we came was missing out

on two lists? Well, You know, there's people

like Matt that just don't have their brain on

straight. Leaving out Bugs Bunny! Yeah, he did

reveal that when he was on the first episode,

so he also left Homer Simpson off. I blame him

for Tom and Jerry not doing better. I do. Yeah,

he also did not vote for Tom and Jerry. Alright,

so Sketch, what do you think of Homer Simpson?

You had him at 15, he comes in at number 3. Think

Homer's worthy of the top ten he's arguably more

worthy than Fred Flintstone because Like Dan

said you could do more with Homer then then you

can do with Fred because of limitations and Homer's

had all kinds of emotional arcs. He's He's been

endearing. He's been hilarious. He's been a bad

dad. He's been kind of a good dad and There's

so many layers to Homer And he's the core component

of that show now. It used to be Bart, but now

it's Homer. And the show continues on because

Homer's always got some kind of hijinks that

he can get up to. But he's also really relatable

because he has everyday problems and he faces

them usually like most people would. Maybe not

always. I don't know. I think maybe a little

too high, but I've seen other lists where homers

made the top three and I guess I don't disagree

with it per se Because the characters been existing

for so many years so many episodes and has evolved

and gotten better maybe got worse at some points,

but It's really an endearing character an entertaining

character and a well -rounded character despite

being a little one -note but Yeah, I mean it's

Homer Amanda agree or disagree Homer being in

the top three Man top five ten Probably ten I

would say But look at how long their fucking

show has been going on and how many seasons has

had it's still Going so not a lot of these characters

on the list can say the same thing and a lot

of that chucks up to Mr. fucking Homer here.

So I think that it's it's definitely got an argument

for where it should be and I'm not going to dispute

it. DJ thoughts on Homer Simpson? Obviously quite

a bit ahead of Bart and in our top three you

think that's justified? I mean, the longevity

of this show, as you guys are saying, I mean,

from Tracy Ullman to now, I think of all the

characters on The Simpsons, Homer has made the

biggest, has changed the most. I think Bard is

still kind of, if you watch the Tracy Ullman

Bard and you watch the new Bard, it's different,

but it's relatively the same. Homer from the

Tracy Ullman was, it's almost night and day from

what he is now. So I think just because. As we

were saying before, how it started off Bart and

then became Homer and it's still Homer and it's

going to ride out on Homer as long as possible.

He deserves to be probably top 10. I don't know

about top three. I don't think I'd put him over

the genie, but I would say top 10. All right,

so Homer Simpson is our number three pick. If

you don't know who our top two are. I don't know

what to tell you, but go seek medical attention

immediately. The only question is, which order

are they coming in? The thing is more people

had Homer Simpson on their list than had either

of these characters because three people left

each of these characters off of their list entirely.

I will say that interesting twist of fate here.

The one that comes in number two, the one that's

going to be our second spot, actually on 67 percent

of the people that voted for the characters voted

our number two higher than the number one. So

most people actually voted number two higher

than number one. There's just a couple outliers

that really kind of swung the vote a little bit.

So I'll give you both of them real quick and

we'll talk about both of them as a group I guess.

our number two with 1097 points and our number

one had 1111 points. So not a great deal of point

differential. Number two will be Bugs Bunny and

number one will be Mickey Mouse. I had Bugs Bunny

Hire, Dan had Bugs Bunny Hire, Doug had Bugs

Bunny Hire, TV's Mr. Neal, David, Kristen, Talking

in Circles, and Sketch all had Bugs Bunny Hire.

But there was a couple people that had Bugs Bunny

much lower on their list. We had Bugs Bunny showing

up at number 23 on one person's list and 37 on

two people's list. So that's what's really causing

the difference there. So we'll just start with

Amanda and we'll go around the panel. You can

talk about either character, you can talk about

the order, you can talk about are these two deserving

as being the top two Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny?

I don't think that there was any question that

these guys were gonna be in the positions that

they were in. I think arguably Mickey Mouse has

probably made more money, so let's do that. Okay.

Put him at the top. But I think more... I don't

want to say iconic because they're both probably

pretty pretty spot -on, but I think the more

lovable and personable, even though he's a fucking

rabbit, would be Bugs Bunny. Okay. Dan, interesting

too to look at it this way. Only one person had

Mickey Mouse ranked number one. Only one person

out of the submitters had Mickey Mouse number

one, yet Mickey Mouse comes in at number one.

Five people had Bugs Bunny as their number one

pick. Not a lot of points, obviously. Only 14

points separated them. So it didn't take much.

But what do you think of these two being at the

top two? It makes sense. It's entirely predictable.

And I don't know. I think it is the right move

in a lot of ways. I rank Bugs Bunny higher. You

probably can't do this list without Mickey Mouse

in some way. Obviously, he kind of started it

all and has continued to this day. And we have

an entire empire. of multimedia built upon his

creation. So like you can't deny that his impact

on animation and just entertainment in general

and Bugs Bunny along those same lines. And but

I always I always enjoyed Bugs Bunny more as

a character. And I think he has that influence

as well as just being hugely entertaining to

this day to a variety of ages. We're like watching

a Mickey Mouse cartoon as an adult now. I don't

get much out of it, but I do with Looney Tunes.

I think it's smarter. It's a little bit, I won't

say higher brow, but I think it's going for something

a little bit more complicated than what Disney

did with Mickey Mouse. It kind of just went towards

the kid's audience for the most part. So I think

that led to it not being as great of a character

as the one like Bugs Bunny. But I think one or

two, you could. You know one you could go back

and forth either or but you know, it makes sense

It's where we where I thought we had ended up

and we're ending up here Yeah, I had Bugs Bunny

ranked at number two and actually Mickey Mouse

down at number six I just think Bugs Bunny is

a little bit more interesting of a character

Mickey Mouse probably the more iconic character

if we go about it that way DJ, what do you think

of this? You guys an in session film had a big

part in this actual, the final two spots, because

you guys had Mickey Mouse at 13 and Bugs Bunny

at 37, In Session Film had Mickey Mouse at six

and Bugs Bunny at 37. So it was the two gaps

between those two that basically probably played

the most part of this. There was one person that

had Bugs Bunny at one and Mickey Mouse at 49,

which offset part of that. But what do you think

of these two being the top, the 100? Slots it

makes sense. I mean it's it's academic and For

I guess a couple years now on our show on the

show. I am the podcast I'm on and on in session.

I've been doing this horrible horrible evil Mickey

Mouse impersonation and We started doing it just

for the simple fact that it It we thought it

would be funny to make such a beloved character

evil and megalom megalomaniacal Because he was

making so much money. Yeah. Yeah, because he's

he won. He's the most beloved Beloved cartoon

character that you could just your brain just

goes to automatically Bugs Bunny is right there.

Don't don't get me wrong, but Mickey Mouse is

the face of Disney the most powerful conglomerate

on the planet the frog is the face of Warner

Brothers not even Bugs Bunny But no, I mean Mickey

Mouse is you can't avoid him. He's hiding in

every Disney film Whether he's in it or not.

There's hidden Mickey's everywhere So yes, Mickey

Mouse is it makes sense for him to be number

one Bugs Bunny being number two. Those are the

top we were you would tell me about this list

and I'm like okay well one will be Mickey, two

will be Bugs, and then everything else will flesh

out after that because those are the two guys.

DJ have you seen Mickey on South Park? Yes, I

have seen Mickey Mouse. The Jonas Brothers? Yes,

I have seen that. I based my impersonation off

of that episode and there was this radio host

down in Florida named Neil Rogers who did kind

of the same thing where Mickey Mouse is this

evil, horrible person. He's like the Donald Trump

of Disney where he's just running everybody ragged

and stuff like that. And South Park does that

because... When you think of Mickey you think

of this adorable icon, he's the franchise He

runs that whole thing. So yeah, I can't see Mickey

Mouse not being number one Sketch any thoughts

on Mickey Mouse and big but the biggest bug bunny.

I can't talk anymore bugs bunny. Oh Boy, I see

where everybody's coming from with Mickey being

more iconic that's true I think At least most

of the people that ranked Bugs Bunny higher did

so because they liked Bugs Bunny more they felt

Bugs Bunny was a more fleshed out character that

you could do more with Bugs Bunny and That would

be my reasons why I would put him at number one

and why I did put him at number one because Bugs

Bunny He's he's had various interpretations most

he's at his best when he is the ultimate troll

And he's absolutely hysterical. You don't get

that on Mickey Mouse Mickey Mouse's he's the

everyman nice cuddly character You know, he's

the good guy Bugs Bunny Arguably is not the good

guy. I mean there are worse guys than Bugs Bunny,

but Yeah. So that is the top 100. We're not going

to go into a lot of reactions because we're going

to have a whole wrap -up show where we talk about

those characters that didn't make it and this,

that, and the other. But I will give everybody

on the panel a quick... quick chance to have

an initial reaction on the list overall. And

while you're giving your initial reaction, if

you had somebody else in your top five that ended

up not being in the top five, when I asked you

that question, feel free to let us know what

that one was. But initial reaction, Amanda, to

the 100 characters overall before we kind of

really dig into it in the next episode. With

this top one and two being revealed, it's kind

of like... So I knew that the whole time why

the fuck do we do this entire list? Because we

knew what these top ones were gonna be we knew

the whole time like no matter What these numbers

said these motherfuckers were gonna be at the

top? Why do we do this whole list? I think we

lost our shit over a ton of the lower ranked

characters versus the ones at the top here. At

the top, we're just like, yeah, yeah, yeah. But

the bottom, it was like 78 versus 79. And we're

like, why the fuck did they go in here at this

level and not go up two more ranks to this one?

kind of got a little bit more antsy with those

picks. So little weird. Well, to answer your

question, the reason we do it is obviously for

the fun of the discussion and the debate in general.

But I think one of the top five of mine. that

I'm sad didn't make the list, but not surprising

is Charlie B. Barkin from All Dogs Go To Heaven.

That was one of my favorite, favorite movies

when I was little. It made me so freaking sad,

but also so happy at the same time. So I wish

Charlie would have been able to make the list.

All right, so she started a trend. She said the

one, she named one character that she's most

sad didn't make the list. Feel free to join in

on that if you'd like as well. Sketch, you go

next. What's your initial reactions on the list?

And why don't you give us your one character

that you're most sad. didn't make the top 100

if you know boy I think things generally fell

into place you know you you noticed my protests

it we're goofy and Tom and Jerry landed I just

I don't even know guys that's and I I think some

of them were a little too high I think for the

most part things fell into about where they should

be it's it's alright Mean I had Kermit at number

four and I felt like Kermit is a good enough

character to be top five So I've a little disappointed

at that As for Not the character that I'm most

disappointed isn't there but the character that

I'm just kind of baffled isn't anywhere on this

top 100 pink panther Plenty of love for silent

characters. I don't know. But as I have mentioned

in prior episodes, you have all failed me because

neither Shredder nor Krang are anywhere on this

list. DJ, what are your thoughts overall? Initially,

just a quick reaction as far as you've seen the

list now and what's your first take? I think

the top 10 other than a couple of surprises is

fine and we knew the top two I'm still kind of

pissed off that Elmo a character I despise and

Big Bird and Kermit who were puppets took the

spot of mrs. Brisby from secret of NIMH Brock

Sampson and the monarch that pisses me off right

there because I love mrs. Brisby speaking of

strong female characters in Animation I that

character secret of NIMH is one of the darkest

darkest Don Bluth movies out there. And I grew

up watching it. The fact that - Was that with

the Nightmare stuff in it? But the mice and then

Don Don double Louise's the crow and he likes

to string and they like they experiment on them

and make them smarter and they escape from the

the NIMM the Institute they were doing the experiments

on then they made a horrible horrible horrible

sequel on your video but no secret of them is

this one of my a racket stabbed in the back and

that damn movie but no mrs. Brisby's awesome

Brock and the monarch from the venture brothers

is I just think the Muppets should be off so

those characters could be in. I'm selfish that

way. Alright, can you give us this? What two

characters wouldn't make it, I mean what two

characters would have made it if Big Bird and

Elmo were not on the list? Who I think would

have made it or who I wanted to make it? No,

no, I'm asking Kevin. Can you tell us who would

have made it? Oh yeah, tell us. Okay, I can give

you the three characters that would have been

in if the if the three Muppets would have been

out and all it's gonna do is it's gonna Reinforce

the 90s love I guess because the first one that

missed was Angelica Pickles from Rugrats who

missed by one point so she would have been in

Then we would have had Meatwad Meatwad over Master

Shake? And then the third character, actually,

we would have double dipped into the Rugrats.

It would have been Chucky Finster. What? Oh,

can we take out the Muppets? It would have been

Chucky, Angelica, and Meatwad as the three characters

that would have taken those places. That's like

half my list. The cast of Rugrats. If I'm going

as far as mine, I don't have too many complaints

as far as ones that I'm really sad didn't make

the list because out of my top 16 all made the

list. So I think if I was going a little bit

deeper, I had Fiverr and then I had. Who? Fiverr.

Vival? No, Fiverr from Watership Down. Oh. Watership

Down, OK. And then I had. Yeah, yeah, that went

real dark. And then as far as a couple classic

characters, I had Heckel and Jekyll and Mr. Magoo

and Woody Woodpecker in my list that didn't...

get any love so those would be maybe the ones

that I mentioned just initial reaction overall

I think my initial reaction is I'm pretty happy

with most of it I think there's a little bit

too much bias towards Disney movies and a little

bit too much bias towards 90s TV so I would probably

skew those two back a little bit but other than

that I can't complain too much we'll have to

dig more into it once we have all the stats and

the numbers for next episode Dan what's your

initial reaction and what character are you most

sad to make the list? I guess Dumbo is one of

my all -time favorite characters and he didn't

make the list which I you know If we're talking

about characters that don't say anything, I think

he's up there for me for sure What do you think

about Tim Burton doing the live -action version

of that? I Think Tim Burton doing anything in

this point Dan what's your overall reaction though

as far as your first instinct well now that the

list is has been revealed Mean, I'm certain there's

a we can get into it more detail. There's probably

some things that some changes I kind of looking

at it thinking about my list one thing I think

I probably would have done differently if I was

making my personal list was Not was include shows

more than once and then I did like I think some

shows were highly underrepresented Where some

movies were maybe overly represented like the

Lion King? So maybe like something like, you

know South Park or the Simpsons and even Family

Guy. I think Family Guy only had one I think

we mentioned future on only had one as well.

So I think the Even though we saw a 90s bias

we didn't see many a lot of like the adult animation

unless a great deal So that that was kind of

surprising and I mean, I'm happy with it I think

the top 25 is pretty solid or some maybe some

changes here and there and it's like maybe one

or two you could argue Didn't belong but I think

overall the top 25 works and I think kind of

like we said this with like the TV List we did

last year is like it's kind of like the family

feud, right? It's not necessarily The right answer.

It's what people are most likely to answer will

give you the answers You're most likely to give

you so that's kind of what you end up with So

some things may kind of seem out of place, but

I think overall I'm happy to see I'm like some

good surprises We got a lot of good animated

characters, which was great to see some classic

characters that show up in the top ten So that's

awesome. But uh, yeah Well, we'll get into it.

We'll break it down. We'll go into all the different

categories that we were talking about. We'll

see how we did in those subsections, pull out

the Disney, pull out the Hanna Barbera, the Looney

Tunes. We'll do all of that. We'll look at a

great deal of people that just missed the list.

Because like I said, there was, I'm trying to

remember the number, 600 and some characters

that got votes. So we'll get into or. it was

either 400 or 600, 465 characters that received

votes. So we'll get into a few of those, at least

those that were closest to making it, and we'll

do a lot of fun discussion and kind of keep that

debate going a little bit and give some time

for those that we haven't talked about already

in our wrap up episode. We'll also get into the

feedback a little bit more as far as the comments

on the website and Facebook, Twitter, wherever

people have left comments on for that as well.

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