The Adventures of Pete & Pete

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Hello, sir. Hello. And today we are going to

be talking about... Lookin' at the leaving rain

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We are talking about The Adventures of Pete and

Pete, another Nickelodeon classic. But before

we get too far into our discussion, here's a

little background information on the show. For

those of you that don't remember, Pete and Pete

actually started in 1993, and it aired until

1996. Like I said, it was on Nickelodeon. There's

a 30 -minute show. It lasted for three seasons

and 34 total episodes. What some of you may not

remember, though, is that it actually began in

1989 as minute -long shorts that played in between

other shows. And then after that, because of

the popularity of the minute -long shorts, they

had five specials were picked up by Nickelodeon.

And it wasn't until after those specials that

the show actually got picked up as a complete

series all of its own. Adventures of Pete and

Pete was a comedy drama that centered on two

brothers, both named Pete Wrigley, and their

various interactions with family, friends, schoolmates,

enemies, whoever. So what do you remember about

the Adventures of Pete and Pete, Mike? More than

you do. Yeah, that's for dang sure. I should

give a disclaimer right now. This is the perfect

time for it. We have 33 different... television

shows we're talking about here in season one

and i am not afraid to admit it this is the one

out of the 33 that i know the least about um

but but when i was setting up the uh the schedule

here for season one there was quite a few nickelodeon

shows and there was quite a few shows that were

part of if people can remember the block of the

nickelodeon block called snick um And Pete and

Pete was one of the most popular Nickelodeon

shows, so I figured I couldn't do this season

without it. But that's why I got Mike here, because

he actually watched the show. Yeah, I remember

watching Pete and Pete, and I remember it a little

bit differently than when I watched the episodes

back. I thought that it was the adventures of

the two Petes, the big Pete and little Pete.

I thought it was their adventures together. But

it basically is, and I don't know if I'm getting

too far ahead of myself, but it basically is,

most of the time it'll be Big Pete narrating

about his own adventures, and he'll also mention

Little Pete's adventures at some point. But I

don't think, I didn't watch all the episodes,

I watched like seven or eight of them, and none

of the ones that I watched had them doing adventures

together outside of King of the Road. That's

the only one I saw where they were together.

Well, right, right. So, I mean, most of the adventures,

Big Pete would narrate it, and it's Big Pete

narrating throughout the whole thing. I don't

even know if Little Pete ever narrated. None

of the episodes I watched had him narrating.

Yeah, see, and it's pretty much, you know, in

the eyes of Big Pete and, you know, just like

strange high school, middle school type of things.

Like one that I did watch, I think it's The Day

of the Dot. Interesting name. I didn't see that

one. Little Pete's Adventure is his school bus

driver got dumped by the school bus driver he

was dating. So the school bus driver would drive

the kids all around the town to all the places

that... The female school bus driver. And he

had gone to and he's kind of, like, reminiscing.

And Pete's, like, trying to just tell the guy,

just take us home already. And it's just so cool.

How much did you watch this as a kid? Is this

something that you, like, you knew exactly when

it was on? Is it something you just kind of caught

off and on? In my mind, it was, I know it was

on SNCC at some point. Yeah. It was either before

or after Clarissa, which Clarissa is next week's

episode. Right. I'm pretty sure it was after.

See, I remember it both ways, but I can't be

for sure. Maybe I'm remembering maybe reruns

after SNCC kind of faded. Well, I mean after

as far as like, I don't know if they ever aired.

I think they aired on the same SNCC block at

some points. I think you're right. It used to

be, if I'm remembering clearly, Clarissa used

to be on at 8 o 'clock. And Pete and Pete would

either be on at 8 .30 or 9 o 'clock. So I think

that's what it was. But I think Clarissa, though,

as a show, I'm almost positive that it came first

as far as when it started. But I do think that

at some point or another, they were both airing

back -to -back on the SNCC block in the early

SNCC years, like one of the first couple SNCC

years. Yeah. Yeah, like I said, I don't really

remember this too much. I remember, I obviously

know the title, I knew it was on, but for some

reason I watched the other SNCC shows more than

I watched this one. I don't know exactly what

the reasoning was, I don't know if I just didn't

like it as a kid, or if time -wise it fit better

for me to watch when the other ones were on.

I don't know what it was in direct competition

with that was on TV, but most of the SNCC things

didn't have much competition. No, not at that

time they didn't. That had to be one of the earliest

prime time kids live action blocks that I can

remember. This is way before for people that

are listening now that maybe weren't kids in

the early 90s. We didn't have the Disney channel

showing live action stuff 24 -7. We didn't have

all the different channels that they have now.

If you wanted to watch a kids show at night,

You usually were out of luck until SNCC came

around, if my memory is serving me correctly.

Yeah, it is. I gotta say, though, as much as

I liked reminiscing on this show and watching

some of the episodes back, it's been so long,

really, the only thing I really remembered outside

of some of the plot points, the major thing that

I remember was the theme song. And I know we'll

talk about that later, but... The Hey Sandy theme

song was really, really cool. I swear the only

thing I remembered about this show was the title

and that it was about two redhead brothers. Like,

that's all I would have been able to tell you

about Pete and Pete. I wouldn't have been able

to tell you about a single other character. I

wouldn't have been able to tell you what types

of shows they had. I wouldn't have even been

able to tell you that the old one narrated. That's

how much I did not watch this show as a child.

But I've watched it now, so I do have a little

bit of knowledge of what went on. And see, for

me, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but for me, it's

the exact opposite. I only watched... clarissa

and pete and pete i never watched are you afraid

of the dark or any of the other snake shows because

i didn't really care for them gotcha well you

know and to each his own you know and i think

for me it was i agree with you i watched the

the clarissa ones just like you but maybe maybe

i started watching it and just watched clarissa

and are you afraid of the dark whereas you watched

pete and pete and clarissa yeah but uh all right

i think i think we're ready to get into the a

little bit more of the who's who of uh of pete

and pete obviously the main two characters we

have big pete wrigley who was played by uh michael

marona or marana i'm not 100 sure how to say

his last name and uh little pete wrigley who

was played by danny tamberelli um what what were

your opinions on the two peets I like them both

for different reasons because the thing is this

isn't just a show for high schoolers or middle

schoolers or whatever else. It's two siblings.

One's in high school and dealing with the high

school issues. The other one's in middle school

dealing with middle school issues. So it's two

separate things and I can like them and respect

them for each of their dilemmas that they go

through or adventures. Well, I was going to say,

I don't know if you're going to bring this up

later. That's the other thing that we should

mention. Most of the title cards that I've seen

say The Adventure of the Day of the Dot or The

Adventure of the Road King or whatever. And that's

the other thing. They had a narrator for that.

They had a narrator for the title cards. Yeah,

they did. That's something I obviously didn't

know until I started watching these back. Was

there anything, though, about these two characters,

like either one that you just specifically liked

a lot, or was there anything about either one

of them that you didn't like at all? When you

think about the two characters, I guess, what's

the first thing that stands out in your mind

about them? Or did you have a preference of one

over the other? No, I didn't have a preference.

I like them both. I like Big Pete's outlook and

the way he saw things and the way he explained

things, of course. Like I said, throughout most

of the episode, he was the narrator. Little Pete,

he didn't bug me at all, but I don't know. Maybe

I just didn't watch enough episodes where he

had adventures, but on the adventures that he

did go on, I mean, that kid's kind of sneaky.

He was kind of sneaky. I do somewhat remember

that. And the other thing, too, is where we were

– I know for the listeners, Mike and I are about

the same age. And where we would have been when

this show was playing, we would have probably

been looking more towards Big Pete as far as

someone to relate to. Yeah. Just because even

though we were – well, honestly, I was probably

about 13, 14. 15, somewhere in there. So I wouldn't

have been as interested in Little Pete's junior

high stories because that's a stage of my life

that I was ending. So it kind of depends on what

age you were when you were watching this, maybe

as far as which one you relate to more. Right,

yeah. But I see the premise of doing that or

the object there is if you do have families that

are watching the TV and you have older brothers

or younger brothers, maybe it's a show that both

of them can enjoy instead of just one. enjoying

it and the other one being kind of put through

torture having to watch it and not even brothers

or not even siblings just you know Like I said

before, it caters to both camps. It caters to

teenagers, and it caters to slightly younger

kids. Right. Also, a couple other characters

that I want to mention for sure, and I'll give

you a chance to mention some additional characters,

but the other two main characters, in my opinion,

are obviously the mom and the dad, Joyce Wrigley

and Don Wrigley. Joyce, played by Judy Graff,

and Don, played by Hardy Rawls. What did you

think about the parents in this show? Oh, man.

The mom with the plate in her head. Yeah, that

even got credit in the opening credits. I know,

that's... and the funny thing is she can pick

up radio signals yeah when i saw that in the

one episode king of the road when she was picking

up the dang radio thing i was like you've got

to be kidding me you know in comparison i'll

give you a second to speak on it but i just i

was just thinking like in comparison to other

like uh parents of of different shows at that

time it usually seemed pretty stereotypical to

have the parents kind of be these dim -witted

like you know, not necessarily down -to -earth

type people. They always seemed like they were

far out or they were dumb or they were, you know,

just kind of crazy, which obviously plays to

what most teenagers think of their parents. So,

you know, I kind of get what they were doing

there, but I did find both of the parents kind

of annoying watching the shows nowadays. I don't

know what you felt when you were watching it.

Since we're talking about the characters, I have

to bring something up that I brought up off -air

to you, and it kind of shocked you. Like, why

do you watch that? When I was watching this back,

the first thing I thought, like, I watch Disney

Channel. I've been watching Disney Channel. He's

about to throw himself under the bus. It doesn't

matter. It's not like I haven't before. And I

honestly don't care. If people don't agree with

what I like or what I've watched in the past,

well, screw you. You know, but when I watch this

back. The first comparison show that I thought

of was Lizzie McGuire. And let me say this before

you even say anything. Because they both, both

Lizzie McGuire and Matt McGuire, the siblings

on that show, had adventures. They each had their

own adventures because they were both in high

school. One was in high school, one was in middle

school. And the parents had their own adventures

as well. Now, granted, these parents didn't really

have that many adventures. but that was the first

thing comparison wise that I thought of when

it came to the siblings, the parents in this,

I could kind of do without. Okay. They're, they're

not bad, but they're not like, they're not super

into what their kids are doing, which I guess

could be good and bad at the same time. I don't

know. Yeah. But I just, I just, I just didn't,

I didn't see enough. They didn't interest me

enough where it seemed like they, you know, like

if it was that if they were on the air too much,

it would probably like they were on the show

too much or featured too much. I probably wouldn't

enjoy that show. Yeah. Like just stick to the

kids. Yeah. But I, you know, but like I said,

I get, I get why they're, why they're there and

I get why they're being stereotyped, you know,

in that role kind of that way. The only other

character I can remember, um, or that I, that

once I watched it this week that I remembered

from my childhood was already, um, the world's

was the world's strongest man. played by Toby

Huss. I do remember him. I didn't remember much

about him from when I was a kid, but I do remember

there being this crazy character that was always

in a superhero costume or whatever that was kind

of just showing up at random places. What are

your opinions on Artie? Stupidest character ever.

He is even more of a side, no -need character

than the parents are. It's just... It's kind

of like he's a forklift of randomness. Most WWE

people will know what I mean. But it's just,

I don't know, out of the episodes that I saw,

he came in at random times. And added nothing.

Yeah, he didn't add anything whatsoever. He didn't

add any funny joke, any funny handstands, headstands,

head salts, somersaults. He didn't add anything

funny. The only time I ever saw anything funny

with him out of the episodes I watched was in

King of the Road, where he was hanging on top

of the overpass. But I was hoping that he would

fall. I was hoping that he was going to be splattered

onto the pavement at some point during that episode.

But I didn't get my wish. Oh, God. Are there

any other of the recurring characters? I do remember

the classmate, Ellen Hickel. Okay. Because she

was Big Pete's best friend. He does have more

feelings for her than he wants to let on. He

never can ever find the time to tell her how

he feels. And apparently in one episode he did

tell her and they agreed to just stay friends.

Yeah. But I do remember her just being in Pete's

adventures at some point or another. Gotcha.

I know there was other classmates and other enemies

and whatnot that kind of made recurring appearances

or whatever. But like I said, I don't know the

show well enough to be able to comment too much

on any of those. Out of the ones we talked about,

I'm assuming that Big Pete and Little Pete are

your two favorite characters? Oh, yeah. I would

just for my personal opinion, Little Pete would

have been my favorite. Something about Big Pete

bothered me. I don't know what it was exactly.

I don't know if it was he was just too awkward

for me or if it was his interaction with some

of the other people. I did like him better than,

like you said, Artie, the mom or the dad or whatever.

But for me, I just kind of liked the little mischievous

way that Little Pete did things. And I kind of

just liked what he added to the show. So I think

I would pick my favorite as Little Pete, and

I'd probably pick my least favorite as... I'm

actually going to say my least favorite was probably

The Mom. Yeah. But I can understand why someone

would say Artie, but I think I even liked The

Mom less. Yeah, I mean, The Mom has her moments,

like I said, with that one part in King of the

Road. With the radio signal thing. Like anything

that's dealing with the plate in her head, that's

kind of funny. But other than that, she's just

an ancillary side character. Yeah. And I think

the only other thing to really bring up as far

as the different characters involved in this

show is this show did have a slew of guest stars.

And I will give it credit. I think that's something

that was very cool that a lot of the other shows

at that time were not doing. Even the more popular

shows like Saved by the Bell or this or that,

they had guest stars, but they didn't bring in

famous guest stars. This is one of the only ones

I can think of that brought in really famous

people to guest star in some of the shows and

some of the people that I can just mention just

to give you guys a taste. We're talking about

people like LL Cool J, Steve Buscemi, Janine

Garofalo, Selma Blair. So, I mean, these are

big time people, even though Selma Blair might

not have been as big as those other ones at that

time. But can you think of any other show during

the 80s or 90s kids show that would bring in

these famous people for guest stars? Kid Show

80s. I can't think of any other ones. Sesame

Street, but that's original. Let me see here.

No, that's a good point. I even forgot about

Sesame Street, but yeah, Sesame Street obviously

did. I can't think of any of them that were towards

the teenage. I guess you could kind of count

Full House. They had a couple of cool guest stars,

but that show ran from 87 to 95. I guess that's

why I'm giving the show a little bit of credit

for doing that, because I think it was a good

idea. Do you count – see, I always counted –

I count Cosby as both a comedy and a kid's show

because obviously it's about the kids and it's

about the parents trying to escape the kids.

Right. Cosby's show had a lot of good – Yeah,

it did. But that technically isn't a kid's show

for what you're doing here on season one of Telecast,

but – But I think that's about the closest I

think we're going to come to. Yeah, pretty much.

But that's just my point is that I will give

them credit for trying to go that route and trying

to help out, especially when you basically just

had two main characters. So it was helpful to

bring in some of these more recognizable people

to kind of like spice it up a little bit or to

add to it because it's not like a lot of the

other kid shows in the 80s and the 90s where

you had a main cast that was five or six. people

big like like for example salute your shorts

last week you know you always had at least seven

campers so they didn't need to bring anybody

else in because they had a pretty big cast that

they could play off of each other but since this

show was basically big pete and little pete i

think it makes perfect sense to bring in these

guest stars oh yeah do you have any other thoughts

on any of the characters or any of the people

actors anything involved in the show not really

okay um then i think it is time for The bad.

The ugly. That's right. It's time for the good,

the bad, and the ugly of Pete and Pete. And a

few things I wrote down for this that may be

good or bad, actually. The first thing I want

to bring up is the credits that we kind of mentioned

already. And this is going to be a good one for

me. I like that they put Mom's plate in her head

in the actual opening credits. And the other

weird one they had was the Petunia tattoo. I

don't know if you noticed that in the opening

credits, but the tattoo, I don't know whose arm

it's on. I don't know whose arm it's on either.

Because it says, it gives all these credits,

like Pete, Pete, Dad, Mom, whoever else. And

then at the end it says, and Petunia. And I'm

like, who fucks Petunia? Yeah, yeah. I mean,

I like it. I think it's a good thing that they

added these crazy credits in because that's the

type of stuff kids will like because it's out

of the norm. It's not like a regular TV show

that's all business as usual as far as credits

go. It's kind of like the closing credits you

see sometimes in more comedic movies or it reminds

me of the Animaniacs or whatever when they end

their thing a different way every single time

or whatever. So I like that they put these in

here, but I will admit that I was confused about

the Petunia thing at first just because I couldn't

figure out whose arm it was or where it came

from. I understand The Mom's Plate because it's

referenced in a couple of the episodes, at least

the one I watched, one of the ones I watched.

I don't know. I like the crazy credits. I do,

too. I think one of the things I love best about

this show is the theme song because it was just

really, really catchy. It had nothing to do with

the credits as far as what you were seeing, but

it was just... This really, really catchy song

named, I think the song was called Hey Sandy.

Yeah. A lot of people love this song. I was reading

a lot of stuff in preparation for the show, and

a lot of people were raving about the song and

saying that they have it on their iPod or they

have it in their whatever, their song listing,

and they play it every once in a while or this

and that. And I understand that it's catchy and

whatnot. I have one problem with the theme song.

What in God's name? are they saying during it

i have no idea what the lyrics are for this song

let me look them up i look i i listen to i listen

to this song and the theme song and i was like

at first i was like oh this this is weird and

i was like wait a second what are they saying

and i listened to it like two three four times

right in a row and i'm like i have no absolutely

no idea what they're saying in this in this song

at all um And that's the one thing that kind

of bugs me as far as the quality of the theme

song. Now, I realize a lot of people like it,

you like it, and most fans like it. But for me,

it's a problem if I can't tell what the singers

are actually saying. So that's my big problem

with the theme song. All right, all right. Hang

on here. I got it up here. It's, hey, Sandy,

the artist is Polaris. Hey, Smiling Strange,

you're looking happily deranged. Could you settle

to shoot me, or have you picked your target yet?

Hey, Sandy, don't you talk back. Hey, Sandy.

Four feet away. End of speech. It's the end of

the day. It was only funnin', but guilty I thought

you had it comin'. Hey, Sandy, don't you talk

back. And it's basically just that, the last

three little stanzas. Wow. Maybe it's better

I didn't know those. Because it's just so weird

that this is a theme song to a TV show. It just

is, but it works for some strange reason, because

you don't know what the hell they're saying.

It works for the... It works for the show. All

I got to say is that I'm glad I didn't know the

words beforehand. I don't know. I can't like

a theme song that the words make no sense to.

I understand, like I'm saying, I understand why

people like it and it's catchy in the tune and

the music part of it. But for me, I don't like

this theme song because I don't know what they're

saying. So I guess we'll have to agree to disagree

on the theme song. But I understand why you like

it. As far as the lyrics, I can understand that.

But as far as the overall catchiness of the song

and just the instrumentals and the melody of

it, that's what I like about it because it is

a catchy song regardless of what they're actually

saying. The only part I really, really remember

is, hey, Sandy, don't talk back. Gotcha. One

of the other things I have written down is, and

this is going to be me being mean, and I'm probably

going to get hate mail about this one, but I

think one reason why I didn't watch this show

as much as some of the other shows is because

of the two people playing Pete and Pete. They're

both odd, red -headed, ugly kids that I know

that's very superficial and mean, but they're

very awkward. and and for some reason just just

the the look of the two kids might have driven

me away as a child it doesn't have any effect

on me now i can watch it and not care but i think

as a kid it reminded me of like i don't know

like especially the older pete he is just gangly

and awkward like in the king of the road show

when he's trying to like hit on selma blair i

think that's selma blair in that show um that

episode he's trying to hit on the chick that's

with the other campers or whatever yeah and it

was just like oh my god kid like You're hurting

my heart here that you're being so awkward. Well,

but see, that's the point of Big Pete's character,

because he is an awkward teenager, and he doesn't

know. I mean, we've all had our awkward years.

I get the points. I just wanted to bring up that

they're the two ugliest main stars of any kids'

show I've ever seen. It reminds me of people

thinking that some Disney princesses are cute

when they're not. Anyway, we won't go there.

We won't go there. The only other thing I kind

of have down, and like I said, the theme song

I'm not a big fan of. I do like the crazy credits.

I have mixed opinions on this next one, and that

is the narration. Now, part of me likes it because

I like getting the insight of what Pete's thinking

or what the situation is, kind of stuff that

it'd be impossible to actually have in the dialogue

or to act out. I like that. My only problem is

I felt like it was almost overkill, like they

did too much narration at points. I like it,

but I think I would have liked it in smaller

doses. It may be unfair because, as Mike knows,

but the listeners don't, right now, thanks to

the old Hub Network, I am kind of halfway obsessed

right now with The Wonder Years, which is a show

that I didn't watch religiously as a kid, but

it's a show that I'm religiously watching right

now. And the reason I bring that up is because,

obviously, Kevin on The Wonder Years does the

narration. And maybe it's because I'm comparing

the two and it's so much better done on The Wonder

Years. Well, the thing about the Pete and Pete

narration is, first of all, I think that he does

it at intervals. Yeah. And again, going back

to one of the three main episodes I watched,

going back to King of the Road, he is basically

setting up the story in the beginning. They're

on the road. Yeah, I like the beginning one.

Right. And then you have them doing stuff. And

then you have, say, the other person, like the

other family come up. So Pete has to do more

narration about giving more insight to the dad.

Because honestly, like we've said, the mom and

dad, they're technically ancillary characters.

I mean, you could probably have the adventures

of Pete and Pete without the parents. Right.

I don't know. To me, I like the opening narration.

I totally get that. But to me, at times during

the course of the 30 -minute show, it almost

became distracting where there was too much narration

and not enough dialogue. Now, if it was in place

of the parents talking, I don't mind that. But

at times, I wanted the kids to have a little

bit more discussion with each other or more dialogue.

And it almost made it so it didn't flow right

at times with me. Now, some of the episodes I

watched didn't bother me at all. Well, see, the

problem with what you just said about the kids

interacting more is what I've said throughout

this episode, that Nickelodeon or whoever produced

this aimed at two different genres of kids. So

the brothers, while they'll look out for each

other in the end, like with the King of the Road

episode, where the whole family makes sacrifice

to... How did they get that in the early 90s?

How did they pass that off that the entire family

would strip naked? I don't know. I don't know.

But what I'm saying is these two kids, these

two brothers, they're not close at all. I mean,

it's like. I mean, they're children that have

been born so far apart that they're not very

close to each other. So they have their own little

worlds. And that's the point of the show. You

have Big Pete over here with his whole high school,

dramatic, awkward teenage stuff. And you got

Little Pete over here. fighting the school bus

driver to get him to take him home one time.

Yeah. But I guess like, just to use one of them

as an example, I watched, I watched an episode

called, I think it was tool or die or tool. It

had tool in it somewhere where basically big

Pete is enrolled in the class. He'd always been

trying to avoid his entire life, which is shop.

And he's got this fear of basically these power

tools, like, you know, taking an arm off or like

getting hurt or, or some fashion. But the point

is during, this episode the the setting is basically

in this shop class it's him it's you know the

the chick that we brought up earlier um ellen

yeah ellen and then it's you know a couple other

kids in the class it's like the teacher's helper

kid and the teacher And in that episode, it seemed

like it would have been fine for there to be

a little bit more dialogue, like let's say between

Ellen and Pete or between Pete and the teacher's

helper or whatnot. But instead, they just put

a bunch of narration in there, which at that

point seemed distracting for me. Now, I get it

if they're jumping back and forth between Big

Pete and Little Pete, then you have to have narration

because there's no interaction. But if you're

focusing on just one, because basically Little

Pete's not hardly even in that episode. Right.

And those are the situations where I was like,

okay, scale back a little on the narration and

let the kids talk to each other. Right, yeah.

So, I mean, I guess that was the only problem.

Like I said, some episodes, it didn't bother

me at all. Like the King of the Road episode,

the narration did not bother me at all. But like

this Tool episode, I think it's Tool or Die,

it was so distracting that it took away from

the episode for me. Yeah. I think this is the

first time and maybe the only time during this

whole season one of the telecast where we actually,

in the good, the bad, and the ugly, had, in my

opinion, good with the crazy credits, bad with

the theme song, and ugly with the two kids. I

did not plan that. Now, I understand this is

Kevin's show, and his opinion ultimately rules

on this show. But however, I disagree with you,

sir, on the theme song, because it is very catchy,

regardless of the lyrics. It's very catchy. So

it is good. You know what? I have one thing to

say to that. Get off my bridge! Anyway. All right.

So that is the good, the bad, and the ugly for

The Adventures of Pete and Pete. And now it's

time for... The cool part of the show here are

one of my favorite parts. Things that make you

go. Hmm. Here are some of the things that you

might not know about the adventures of Pete and

Pete. Number one thing that you might not know

is that just like Salute Your Shorts last week,

this show was an award winner. It won the 1995

Cable Ace Award for Best Children's Series. And

as a side note, it was also picked by People

Magazine as one of the Best of the Tube for 1995.

This surprised me not as much as it did last

week. I understand why this one won an award

because it was kind of a completely unique...

unique show for its time. There was no other

show quite like this one at that time. I was

a lot more surprised that Salute Your Shorts

won any type of awards because it was just kind

of completely crazy, insane stuff. But no, it's

not stupid. So I'm not as surprised. I am surprised

that both the first two shows that we talked

about this year or this season, both of them,

the Nickelodeon shows, both won awards. And I

did not know that either one of those had won

awards going into this. The second thing that

you might not know about the adventures of Pete

and Pete is the actor that played older Pete,

this is just kind of a silly nonsense trivia

thing here, was actually suspended from high

school during his senior year for setting his

guitar on fire in the hallways. Marty McFly.

So apparently older Pete had a little rebellious

nature when he was in school. I don't know. I

don't know what was going on there. And my last

thing, the third thing that you might not know

about. The Adventures of Pete and Pete, according

to one of the show's creators, the show was originally

going to be about a boy named Pete and his dog

named Pete. But they changed the dog to a younger

brother when they realized a dog, quote -unquote,

wasn't exciting enough. You know, there's so

many ways I could go with this one. Thank God

they chose to change it. Thank God they didn't

put Scrappy in there. So those are the things

you might not know about Pete and Pete. And now

it's time for us to have a little fun and go

a little VH1 on you guys. Well, I was going to

say on your ass, but that sounds bad. I'm going

to go VH1 on you and do a little where are they

now. We're not going to break it down to all

the different recurring characters in this section

because that would be annoying. But I do want

to talk about four of them just because. Two

of them I find interesting, and of course we

have to talk about the two main characters. But

Artie, one of your least favorite characters,

Toby Huss, you might not know this, but if anybody

is a fan of King of the Hill, you have heard

him because he is the voice of Cotton, Con, and

Joe on King of the Hill. So Artie lives on, just

not in a superhero costume. At least he did say

that. There you go. I find this interesting.

Nobody else probably will. But Hardy Rawls, the

dad, was actually in the commercials. He was

the Maytag Repairman from 2003 to 2007. He has

since been replaced. But if anybody remembers

the Maytag Repairman commercials, I do. I did

not realize that was the dad from Pete and Pete.

I don't remember the main tag repairman from

those years. So those are kind of just the two

little inconsequential ones that I wanted to

bring up. But as for the two main characters,

Michael Morona, better known as Big Pete, he

went to high school, graduated college and whatever,

and he was employed as a film and TV actor throughout

the mid -2000s. Mostly playing burnout types

in movies like Slackers and 40 Days and 40 Nights.

In 1999, he portrayed Stuart, the knowing slacker,

in a series of Ameritrade commercials. Since

then, he's remained in show business, but actually

he's on the other side of the camera nowadays.

He works as an electrician on the film sets.

I guess I didn't know that an electrician had

credits and whatnot, but he was the electrician

on Sex and the City, the first movie. Before

the Devil Knows You're Dead and Be Kind Rewind.

But the last time I remember seeing him, and

I did not realize this was him at the time, but

I clearly remember on the movie 40 Days and 40

Nights him being the bagel guy. The only thing

I remember about that movie is the sea of boobs.

But I remember because he would bring in the

bagels all the time and most of the time he was

kind of just like this joke. whatever, but he

becomes a bigger part later on in the show. But

now that I think back of it, yeah, he was a big,

he still is a big guy, like gangly redhead, awkward

looking guy, even though he's not a teenager

anymore. But some people might remember him as

a bagel man. Otherwise you're not going to see

him because he's basically on the other side

of the camera nowadays, but he, but he's still

in the business. A little Pete's a little different.

Danny Tamberelli. He was actually pretty much

like the Nickelodeon poster boy for a long time

because after Pete and Pete, he was on the Nickelodeon

show All That. He was on, I think it was called

Get the Picture, one of the Nickelodeon game

shows. He was on a couple other, I think he was

on one of the Double Dare type shows at one point.

But he was basically on Nickelodeon for the entire

decade. until about 2000 when i when and according

i listened to an interview he gave uh with a

radio show and according to him basically he

did this and he was on nickelodeon and was doing

all the acting and then once he graduated high

school he just basically stopped acting because

it was time to go to college So he basically

just abandoned all of the Hollywood -type stuff

and whatever, went to school, and went through,

got a degree. He went to Hampshire College. And

nowadays, he's basically focusing... I mean,

he has done a few acting things since then. But

nowadays he's focusing on his band, which he

has a couple bands. The main one is called Jounce.

It's J -O -U -N -C -E. I think he's the bassist.

But you can actually go on YouTube and find videos

of this band. It's basically an East Coast band,

kind of a harken back to some of the 90s, like

alternative rock, not quite grunge, but that

type of band. So that's what he's all about now.

The last time you probably saw him on TV, I don't

remember this, but in 2006 he was on a Wendy's

commercial. I've never been a Wendy's fan, so

I would have bypassed that. He's basically focusing

all his time on his band, Jounce, and the other

band that he's in is called Every Good Boy. So

if you're interested in what he sounds like as

a musician, go to YouTube and search Jounce.

All right, so that does it for the what are they

doing now. So you might be wondering if you can

watch this show on YouTube, if it's available

on DVD, that type of stuff. And luckily, we're

going to give you much better information this

week than we did last week with Salute Your Shorts

because with Salute Your Shorts, as we mentioned

last week, the YouTube quality is very bad. Um,

it's not clear at all. And like Steve and I were

talking last week, uh, parts of the episodes

would not be there. Um, so you, you could basically

watch like one part, but not another, like not

the third part, or you could watch the second

part, but not the first part. This it's very

easy to find. Yeah. Not only is it very easy

to find, it is pretty crystal clear. The quality

is very, very good for Pete and Pete on YouTube.

So if you're trying to remember your childhood

and remember what Pete and Pete was like or something

about the show has made you interested again,

you're going to have luck if you go to YouTube.

You can watch it. There's a ton of episodes on

there. I think I counted almost a dozen just

on kind of first look. So there's a lot of episodes

there on YouTube for you to watch. How many episodes

did you watch on YouTube? About seven or eight

different ones. But basically, they're all broken

down into three different parts, and like I said,

they're all crystal clear. Whoever did it did

a good job. And if you are even a bigger fan,

you're also in luck, because unlike Salute Your

Shorts, Adventures of Pete and Pete is available

on DVD. Now, as far as the DVDs go, there is

currently two sets of Pete and Pete out on DVD,

Season 1 and Season 2. They were both released

in 2005. I want to bring up a couple different

things about this. Season one was only eight

episodes long because that's how long the first

season was, but they're all on that DVD. It does

have four out of the five TV specials that aired

before the series was picked up. So if you want,

I have no idea if it has any of the one -minute

shorts. I don't believe it does because I would

have thought it would have mentioned it. But

it does have four of the five TV specials on

there. The other, the fifth special, is on the

season two volume. along with the 13 season two

episodes. So if you buy these two seasons, I'm

guessing they're not very expensive since one

only has eight episodes and one only has 13,

but you would get all of the first two seasons

episodes and all five of the TV specials that

aired before the show was picked up. You also

get commentary tracks on three of the episodes

on each set. So it seems like the bonus features

are pretty good here. The only bad part about

all this is there is no Season 3. Season 3 would

have been about another 13 episodes. It was scheduled

for release in 2006, but it was removed from

the schedule, and there's basically no word on

if it's ever going to actually be released. So

if you're a fan, you can own most of the series,

but you're not going to be able to own all of

it. I don't know. It's hard for me to justify

when they do this. And I know that there's all

kinds of money reasons and whatnot. But I hate

when they release part of a series and they don't

finish it. I'd almost rather them never release

any of it or release it all. You know what I

mean? Well, the thing about it is... And the

other thing I can kind of... Equal this to, and

of course Kevin's going to kick my ass for doing

this, but this is the same thing that happened

with Gem. Season 1 and Season 2 of Rhino DVDs

of Gem got released. Season 3 Part 1 got released,

and then Rhino lost the rights. So maybe with

the DreamWorks and Paramount merger, they could

have lost rights. It could be the music that

maybe has lost the rights for this show for the

Season 3 release. I don't know. uh there's all

kinds of technical reasons why we couldn't have

gotten season three and while i do agree with

you to a point of you want it all i mean you

do want something you want it to be available

in some form yeah i mean i could see if it wasn't

like if it was like um 21 episodes total between

the two seasons i could see if it was like eight

volumes with like four episodes a piece i hate

volume sets yeah But, I mean, at least we have

two of the three seasons. Yeah, and I'm not going

to diss on the DVDs because it seems like they

have some pretty decent bonus features as far

as, you know, it was great that they included

those specials because most TV shows wouldn't

think to do that. You know, I love commentary

tracks. I guess it just speaks to my inner loathing

for a couple of TV series that I own that I can't

finish because they won't freaking put out the

rest of them. And I used to actually have a guy

that I worked with that was big on, I think it

was, what show was it? Boy Meets World or? I

can't remember which one it was. And he always

was like, I want the next, you know, he was missing

like the last season because they wouldn't put

it out. And they finally did. Boy Meets World

is a whole other topic. Well, and I have the

same loathing because of one of my favorite shows

of all time, and I don't care what people think

when I say this, but Party of Five, and half

of that is because I'm obsessed with Jennifer

Love Hewitt. But anyway, they've put out three

of the seasons, and that's like, I think there

was six. There was somewhere around there. Like,

there was more. Again. I don't know. I think,

honestly, what happened with Melrose Place and

Party of Five, because Melrose Place, they switched

to season volume sets. They have seasons one

through four of Melrose Place, and then they

have season five, volume one, and volume two.

I think what it boiled down to those shows is

music. It has to be. Melrose Place, 90210, and

Party of Five all had high Top, Party of Five

especially. I mean, oh, what is the stupid name

of the band that sings those songs? Yeah, the

Bodines. That was a very popular song by the

band. So I think in that case of Party of Five,

it boils down to the music rights. as far as

not getting the other four DVD sets. That's true.

But at least you can watch it on YouTube high

clarity. You can get two seasons of it on DVD.

So all is not lost if you want to follow up and

watch some Pete and Pete. So I think it's time

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at least. Or else. All right. Thanks for staying

with us, everyone. And, of course, in our never

-ending effort, this should actually be my favorite

part of the show, in our never -ending effort

to bash the bleepity bleep bleep bleeps at IGN,

that's the censored version, it is time for the

IGN replacement crew. I'm not going to do this

every episode, but since it's only the second

episode, I'll just give you a real quick breakdown.

This segment, we just both rank the show. If

we give it a one star or whatever, rank it with

a one, that's basically meaning that we didn't

watch it back then and we still... don't want

to watch it because it still sucks. If we give

it a two, we're saying that we loved it back

in the day, but it really doesn't hold up anymore

and we don't want to watch it anymore. Three

basically means that we love the show and we

still watch it on YouTube or on TV if it airs.

And four is the best rating. That means basically

we need this on DVD. We want it. We should own

it or we already do own it. So, Mike, what do

you give this Adventures of Pete and Pete? I

have to give it a four because the only reason

why is because, yes, it is a really good show.

But you're not going to find this on TV nowadays.

You're just not. I frequently look at the TV

Guide channel, and I look at the listings, and

I never see any of the older Nickelodeon shows

on Nickelodeon anymore. So if we were comparing

it, if your only choices are to watch it on YouTube

or to get it on DVD, you would rather have it

on DVD? Yeah, because that's the DVD collector

in me. But just having it on YouTube is enough.

I don't have to go out and get the DVDs. I don't

have to jump up and go get it right now. But

I'm saying as far as like... If you don't want

to go on YouTube to try to find them, which as

we've said, they're fairly easy to find. Or if

you want to have like a marathon watch of them,

getting the DVDs is probably your best bet. All

right. This is where we're going to butt heads

again. No. Well, it's kind of hard for me because

I didn't watch the show back in the day. So part

of me says I should give it a one because I didn't

watch it back then. And I really have no desire

to watch it now. I'm not going to give it a 1

because it's not that bad. Do I like it as much

as Salute Your Shorts from last week or what

we're going to be talking about in the future

of this season? It just doesn't hold that place

for me because I didn't watch it as a kid. But

like I said, it's not that bad of a show. I understand

why people like it. I understand it's unique,

and it kind of captures that place and time in

the early 90s that it had. But just for me, I

don't want to own it. I really don't care if

I watch it again on YouTube. So for me, I'm going

to give this one a two with, you know, only mainly

because I didn't watch it as a kid. It's not

anything against the show. All right. As he said,

any last words about Pete and Pete, Mike? It's

a good nostalgia show. If you're going to watch

something from that era, it's if you grew up

watching it or if you. Honestly, now that I've

been thinking about it, that we've been talking

about it for the past however long we've been

talking about it, honestly, I think it's the

90s grunge version of Wonder Years. Yeah, kind

of. That's not a horrible comparison. Except

for when you do that, then it becomes even worse

because Wonder Years was so good. No, I know

what you're saying. I know what you're saying.

It is. It is. It gives the insight into what

kids were thinking, you know, what a particular

kid could be thinking during that time. So, you

know, you get a little of the 90s in there. I

mean, it's not like so dated because it's not

necessarily talking about events that happened.

During the 90s to a big extent. But you're getting

the 90s style. You're getting the 90s vibe out

of it. And you're getting the insight into what

a kid could be thinking during that time and

kind of delving into that. And then you have

the narration and everything. So it's a good

comparison. I don't know. For me, the show just

didn't do it for me. I don't know exactly why

that was. But if I was given a list of Nickelodeon

shows to watch, this would not be anywhere near

the top for me. And that's just my opinion. All

right, everyone. I think that does it for episode

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