Nerds of a Feather Review

No, we've done it Ferb. We brought the entire

convention center to the brink of an inter -genre

geek war. Who doesn't remember turval -ribbing

young punk? I mean, come on. Then we'd better

do it fast. Look! and in duty that holds the...

Episode 53 day 53 here on the podcast organization

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geek cast or radio network I am one of your host

Steve John might you joining me is pecan broke

Michael Today is the 53rd day of summer and this

means it is the day that the GC aren't continues

our new cartoon review podcast for the summers

of 2016 and 2017 So are we ready to celebrate

10 years of Phineas and Ferb by talking about

Nerds of a Feather? Absolutely. Yep. Oh boy.

What a way to follow up summer belongs to you.

This isn't terrible. No, it's a good episode.

I loved it. I thought it was great. Again, I'm

surprised they tried to follow up like a movie

with two kind of subsequent two -parters. I like

that though because it shows continual stories

and it's just I would rather have that than just

two single episodes with two 11 minute like if

you took um nerds of a feather parts one and

two and wizard of odd parts one and two and put

them And move them with like we call it maze

and ladies and gentlemen meet max modem and then

Secret of success and do side of the moon if

you took those and move them up next to Summer

belongs to you that would feel a little weird

But I like the two -parters right after summer

belongs to you because it really feels like the

last few days that we've been doing this between

Summer belongs to you before that it was Hawaiian

vacation Parts one and two, so Hawaiian vacation,

some of it belongs to you, and then nerds and

odd. So it feels, you know, yes, nerds are odd.

We are. So it seems almost like they're relying

on the two -parters nowadays. No, not really.

No, it's a four -parter. No, it's... Summer belongs

to you four -parter. It's just a section of the

season that kind of happened with, and I don't

think that's gonna happen much more between season

three and season four. And I don't mind it, honestly,

because it's... Oh, it's... It's easier not easier

storytelling, but it's it's nice seeing full

stories as 30 -minute episode cartoons. Don't

get me wrong I like all the individual 11 -minute

cartoons, but Sometimes you need a larger story

at times Sure, I'll buy that for a dollar Okay,

maybe species and thinkies have more in common

than they do differences Have you ever tried

talking to them? Talk? Have you met the leader

of the Finkies? I'm sure you're wondering why

I, Buford, have taken a leadership role in such

a geek -centered enterprise. Well, take a look

around. This place is crawling with nerds. I'm

like a kid in a candy store. Plus, I relate to

the character of Odof Underhump and his complex,

emotional inner journey. I seriously doubt this

will work. Buford is not a man of peace. Nonsense.

I'm sure he'll be reasonable. Hey! No space bunnies

allowed! I am... It's time to end this silly

feud so we can all enjoy Claude Vatison's special

effects presentation. Baljeet, you prepared a

peace treaty? I did. We speckies vow to live

in peace and harmony with you Finkies. All we

ask is that you admit space adventure is much

better than Stumbleberry Finkbat and that you

have brought eternal shame to your families,

forever believing otherwise. Uh, that's not...

Oh yeah? You and what army? Your quest... So

for nerds of a feather Phineas and Ferb head

to the tri -state areas annual sci -fi and fantasy

Convention to meet their hero Kevin Smith. Oh,

what the hell? Special effects guru Clive Addison

their plan gets sidetracked when they're swept

into a duel between the fantasy fans and the

sci -fi geeks Meanwhile, Candice tries to keep

secret that she's a fan of Ducky Momo, another

convention stable. Across the convention hall,

Dr. Newford Schmertz has taken a television executive,

Jeff McGarland, or McGarland, uh, hostage, no.

uh... hostage so he can pitch him a show he's

developed called doof and puss i would watch

that ninja vampires i hate these guys I didn't

watch that show. There's nothing worse than a

ninja vampire and a zombie pirate. Random explosions.

Yep. Well, that's a staple of the 80s, so...

I guess. Yeah, that was pretty funny. Mm -hmm.

I like their, uh... I don't want to call it a

Knight Rider. It's more of a Knight Rickshaw.

It's... To me. Ricky. Oh god. Ricky. Yeah. Oh

my god. Ricky the rickshaw? Yes. It was... Would

you like to shoot him now or would you wait till

you get home? Shoot him now! Shoot him now! Keep

out of this. He doesn't have to shoot you now.

He does so have to shoot me now. Oh, Bugs and

Daffy. Anyway, uh... But yeah, it's Rick the

Rickshaw which is basically a major monogram

himself giving them missions and we've got, you

know, a possessed mayor or a fake mayor that

is possessed and the real mayor is tied up in

the basement and all of that. The doof plot here

is a little... I like the... The subtle difference

of it, well it's not really that subtle, but

the difference of him pitching somebody a TV

show and the fact that the scheme is that they're,

you know, these superhero -type characters and

they've teamed up, I like that, but what really

shines here for me is all of the other convention

stuff. The Doof Plot, I would almost say, is

a lesser B story compared to the overall arcing

A story of meeting Clive Addison and... Having

the Star Wars fans versus the Lord of the Rings

fans and all of that. Yeah. I like the Doofenshmirtz

side. You gotta think, people who do this all

the time, who are pitching stories continuously,

it's like, who do I pitch a story to? What do

I write? What do I put in my story? These type

of problems, they're all being thrown in here

by people who do this for a living. So they love...

They'll absolutely love it when they get to poke

fun at it, you know and This just has all of

the 80s tropes thrown into it and here's juf,

you know kind of writing what he knows For the

most part, you know, he didn't throw in a girlfriend

for the platypus But uh, that would be selling

out to a I mean literally a captive audience

Yeah Yeah, and I liked it. Yeah, I wouldn't I

wouldn't say it was dumb but at the same time

that I think the lion's share of it's gonna be

the lion's share of the episode is going to be

the convention and then kind of like the sea

story that gets more Playtime that I thought

it deserved. Well, yeah Well, I think the reason

why they gave that a little bit more playtime

in this is because You got to give Candice and

Jeremy more content you you can't just put them

together in summer belongs to you have them have

their first kiss and everything else in that

and then not do anything with them the very next

episode so with this, you know She's Trying to

hide no She's she's trying to hide the fact that

she is of you know, I mean How many of us are

going to admit we are fans of... Spider -Man

3? You know what I mean? It's that... It's that...

It's that kind of, um... Honestly, raise your

hand. Raise your hand. And we will shun you.

Well, they did shun her at the end, but it's

one of those things where it's like, you know,

she was a fan of this when she was a kid, and

she's still a fan of it when she's a teenager.

And it turns out that Lil Susie is also a fan

of Ducky Momo because Lil Susie is of the age

of, you know, that edutainment type Barney Blue's

Clues, Clifford the Big Red Dog, Caillou, who

is probably the worst child thing ever, according

to a lot of people I know. So Susie is of that

age and you know she goes running around the

convention center after Candice in the Ducky

Momo suit. Now Jeremy and Susie do not know at

first that it is Candice in the suit. You know

I love Jeremy's line when Susie first sees the

Ducky Momo. He's like oh that poor sap in the

costume. But it gives what the sea story gives

between Jeremy Candice and Susie is It actually

allows Susie to like Candice without having to

try to humiliate her at all because Candice is

in Ducky Momo suit when Susie loves Ducky Momo,

so Susie kind of has I guess I don't want to

say nostalgia blinders on because she is so young

and she's not While Suzy is, you know, evil incarnate,

I mean, this episode, she really wasn't. She

was just a kid at heart, as she should be anyway,

because she is a kid still. So I didn't quite

mind the C story, because it had somewhat of

a happy ending. Like I said, I like the B story

with Doof and Perry and all that. It was just

a little bit different. I almost expected Doof

to have some sort of innator to make him the

star of the convention instead of Clive Addison

or something. I like what they did with it. I

like the fact that you have everything with Doof

here. You've got him, you've got Perry, you've

got Monogram, and you've got... his brother the

mayor and as we all know in most of the schemes

most of them the majority of them it's either

to embarrass or to you know do something to roger

to get even with him because you know their mother

liked roger better than him right so there's

that that makes sense yeah so how do we know

that there's no inator uh involved in capturing

the uh executive He's tied up with rope. I mean

I Mean Yeah, they're both tied up with rope I

mean we already had the paper cut inator. What

is he gonna make the rope roping inator? I don't

know I mean It's not like Doofenshmirtz is, you

know, gonna go out and rope, you know, he's not

gonna be roping the wind with Garth Brooks over

here for crap's sake. Oh, dear. You had to bring

that up. Hey, that's gonna come in later, because

he wants to capture the country -western vibe.

So, with yodel yodel yodel obey me. So, as much

as you hate country -western music, I'm sure

you're gonna absolutely love that episode. I'm

not a fan. Not really a fan, you know? Oh, God.

Let's see, what else did I have for this one?

This is the episode where Irving and Albert come

back together and they're on two different sides.

And, of course, Phineas and Ferb are gonna be

on two different sides of the thing. I just love

how... They start this inter -genre geek war

and all the speckies are saying why theirs is

better and Ferb is still standing by Phineas

and next thing you know he's walking over to

the Finkies and Albert's like as it should be.

Mm -hmm Inter -genre geek war. Yep. I don't you

know, I I've seen a lot of I mean we've participated

in this before of like which is better Star Wars

or Star Trek? Star Wars one. He said the star

Star Wars. Yeah, but I've never We have to dig

up a link to that old episode because we were

I will yeah, we were right. Yeah I rarely see

anybody say anything about Lord of the Rings.

Oh, wait, I was about to say, unless it's Kevin

Smith. Yeah. And it wasn't mall rats. It was

chasing Amy or dogma. I might have been chasing

Amy. Yeah. I forget. They was like, you know,

there's no it was. Oh, hold on. Clerks, too.

It was clerks, too. That's what it was. That's

right. Because there's only one trilogy. There's

only one trilogy. There's only one ring. That's

funny. Dude, that's the draw they got to... Well,

it says on Under Illusions on the wiki that it's

a... It is a full -on Star Wars thing for the

speckies, but for the Finkies, it's a combination

both of Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter. I...

I just can't get into either one of those franchises.

I have absolutely no interest. At age 14, I tried

reading The Fellowship of the Ring, because my

dad used to work for a bus company here in Louisville,

and as being part of the shop crew and the shop

foreman and stuff, sometimes he would clean the

buses out, or he used to actually drive motor

coaches. find stuff and bring it home if it's

never got claimed. At age 14, I could not get

past Bilbo, or however the hell you say his name,

his eleventy -first birthday. Just say he's 111

damn years old. Eleventy -first birthday. The

funny thing about Tolkien though is that he never

did anything the way you expected him to. What's

the plural of elf? Elfin oh, well you would say

elves right, but it's if he wrote it el fs. Oh

Elves and same with like dwarves and If you tried

to go in and change it, you know He'd throw a

fit he'd be like no because the editors would

go in and try to change his text and he'd be

like No, this is this is how it's supposed to

be This is the right way to spell it. And it's

like, well, who says it? I say it's my book.

I'm going to tell you how to spell it. Yeah,

so I mean, he's always doing stuff like that

that sets him apart. And you're right. Jeff McGarland

is a spoof of Seth McFarland. Talentless hack.

Yep. He's even more of a hack than Hack Snyder

is. And Hack Snyder is the biggest hack of them

all. You know, there's going to be a lot of people

who get aggravated by this, but Seth Green, I

think, is a little overdone, maybe. I don't know.

I mean, you know, we got Robot Chicken, and the

Turtle Series ended. Well, the current Turtle

series ended. It's ending after season five and

they're rebooting it and doing something else,

but the 2012 season series, the 2012 series that

started, you had, you had Jeff, or not Jeff,

oh, god damn it. No, well, you had... The pie

fucker as Leonardo at first you had Jason Biggs

as Leo for the first two seasons and then in

season three between season two finale and the

season three premiere Leo gets hurt in the series

and They used that to tell the story of why the

voice actor changed. Why his voice changed? Yeah.

And then Seth Green took over Leo from season

three to the current. It's alright. There's like

two movies of Seth Green's that I can watch on

loop only because I absolutely love the movies

and it's not mainly because of him. One of them

is 1993's Airborne with Shane McDermott and Brittany

Powell. Chris Conrad's also in that. And 2003's

Italian Job with Wohlberg and Shelley Sterrin.

Oh, that's right. He was Nestor. Yeah, he was

the Napster, that's right. He got the name because

I was taking a nap! Anyway, back to the Niazen

verb! She seems like marginalized because she

likes Ducky Momo, and yet there's an entire wing

of the convention specifically for Ducky Momo

stuff. And she runs over there and she says,

you know, I have to find something that I don't

already own. I can emphasize with that. I've

been there. I'm going to the convention to get

a collectible merchandise that I don't already

have. Good luck. I've so been there. Hmm. You

know how it is. Yeah. Sad. Sad. Well, luckily,

luckily you don't have to worry about it anymore

because, you know, last year BotCon came to Louisville

and Kentucky killed BotCon, so I mean, you know.

I mean, you know, you can try going to HazCon,

but I bet you get a disease going in there. I'm

serious. There was a news story a while ago the

end of 2016 beginning of 2017 about Hasbro Potentially

buying out Mattel and I've said this to you off

the hair before I'm like, oh my god They could

so call the company if Hasbro had bought Mattel

they could call the company hazmat That would

be a lot of lawsuits, yeah exactly Oh boy. So

the end of the show, there's a huge LARP. Huge,

yeah. Live action roleplay. Yep. This is where

LARPing got started. No. I saw this on TV and

went, get in the park. No. LARPing was around

before. Minius and Ferb, I think. Mean cuz that's

the thing like for me as a kid we used to lark

Transformers all the time But we didn't bet back

in the 80s. It wasn't called LARPing. It was

just called Okay, we weren't dressed up no, but

we would say oh, I'm this character I'm that

character and we would try to emulate the kid,

but it was still role -playing. It just we weren't

dressed up You're right, but you know back in

the 80s when things made fucking sense. Yeah

We called that, you know, make believe and, and,

you know, imagination using your imagination.

I mean, you know, the movie tagline beyond good,

beyond evil, beyond your wildest imagination.

I mean, come on. And now it's called live action

role play. Give me a break. There's a distinct

difference between saying I'm Optimus Prime,

and you get to be Megatron. Pew pew pew, you

know, versus actually dressing up as Optimus

Prime and Megatron and fighting in the park.

Yeah. There's a big difference. I'm not condemning

it. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I think

that would be cool to see. But, you know, it's

just that there's a difference. There's a difference.

Yeah. Hold on to your artistic integrity, doof.

Don't let them tell you. Yeah. I'm looking here.

I'm trying to find when it actually started.

Yeah, I'm looking for a year here. LARP goes

by prehistory. Well, we all know what the first

LARP was, Cowboys and Indians. I mean, come on,

everybody did that. You know, again, there's

a difference between saying, I'm a cowboy and

you're an Indian, versus, you know, actually

dressing up as Cowboys and Indians. I remember

when I, one of my friends and I did Cowboys and

Indians when we were little kids, you know, we

would have fake toy guns and fake, you know,

bows and arrows and things, but we didn't dress

up, but still kind of the same thing. Okay, yeah,

yeah Sorta I mean honestly I I see LARPing and

You know make this playing make believe is two

different things. Yeah, cuz again, you're not

dressed up. You're not wearing the costume According

to and again Wikipedia take it with a grain of

salt American larps have no single point of origin,

although many of the groups still in operation

can claim a lengthy history among live combat

groups. Let's see, this one was started around

1977. The Dagor Outdoor Improvisational Battle

Games was about 9, so it's about 40 years old,

I would say. So Phineas and Ferb did not... They

might have reignited the interest in LARPing

with this episode, but they did not. They didn't

invent it. Yeah, they didn't invent it. It was

a thing way before Phineas and Herb. 30 years

before Phineas and Herb. This is funny. I almost

bought a t -shirt. Yesterday? Yeah, yesterday

or the day before. It had the Dungeons and Dragons

box art from the first red box. Mm -hmm. the

the original uh uh It was like an intro edition

rules And I was like that is so cool, but the

original box was red And this was a black t -shirt.

So I was like, oh tar and my integrity is being

tested here Do I do I pass on this because it's

not a red box. It's red t -shirt Uh, so yeah,

I passed on it I refuse to pay more than $10

for a t -shirt. Then I guess you don't buy anything

from Ripped Apparel, do you? Uh, you know...

No, I haven't. So, I think we've mentioned this

before, but I don't remember when Albert first

debuted. He's voiced by Batman. What? Diedrich

Bader. Not by Batman. Hashtag not my Batman,

yeah. Not my Batman. Yeah. I'm sorry, I didn't

get any kind of right. Yes, exactly. Irving's

older brother Albert is voiced by Diedrich Bader,

aka Oswald from The Drew Carey Show, who also

voiced Batman in Batman the Brave and the Bold.

Oh, that's funny, I didn't know that. Stacey's

in this episode, but she's only an owl. She's

oh No, that's next and it's this tomorrow Stacey's

in this episode because she's she has to come

over to Candice's. Yeah. No, no, no Stacey. It's

tomorrow. It's Wizard of Oz. I'm getting a mixed

up damn it What else what else about nerds one

of my favorite lines was transport him away so

you can't actually say that this was just star

wars because there's no transporting in star

wars at star trek and that and i thought a lot

of the costumes were very tricky Maybe some of

the other non -cat like some of the background

characters, but clearly Irving is archer D2 and

clearly Phineas is a play on Luke Skywalker Yeah

with that helmet that no that that to me look

like 1940s Buck Rogers Okay retro stuff right

there Leave it up to the debate for the fans.

So I guess I I don't know Forties fifties somewhere

somewhere in there, please finish and Ferb wiki

be careful of name pecan court Michael What else

did you like about nerds of a feather It's nice

that there are several You know storylines going

on here. I don't really feel like you've got

short shrift Because he had enough going on With

that TV the TV show was so interesting. I was

it was such a cool like play on 80s tropes and

TV shows and stuff like that I like Kevin Smith.

Oh, it's always nice to see Kevin Smith, especially

when they you know, they Riff off of off of his

background. Mm -hmm. Yeah, and I really want

to direct Yeah, and that and anyone who's gonna

watch this I shouldn't really say this but anyone

who's gonna watch this as an adult Let's say

is either really interested in sci -fi or really

interested in fantasy. Mm -hmm, but in my Experience

most people are both Kind of like Ferb. Ferb

likes them both. Yeah, Phineas and Ferb. They're

both like, hey, cool, man. I like it. I dig it.

Me, I'm more of make a damn choice. Me, I'm more

of an X -Men 3 Wolverine. Choose your side. It's

like, giant robots or army men? I think I'll

take the giant robots over the army men. See

now you're starting to sound more like this I'm

just saying like okay, so there's several different

cartoon series over the years, but it's like

you know You either You know for me it was That's

not that's not buck Rogers acrimony uh... erin

gray area it was angry that what they're doing

was the actress who played her uh... rogers but

uh... uh... uh... can't remember the characters

now skin -tight one day uh... uh... but it's

like for me it was always a cartoon choice you

know transformers are g i'd you know Mask or

whatever you'd pair up with Mask, Speed Racer

or whatever, you know. Thundercats or Voltron.

I like both Thundercats and Voltron. Jem or She

-Ra. Well, after going through all 93 episodes

of She -Ra, I prefer Jem overall. You know, that

kind of thing. So, you know. I like a lot of

different stuff, but, you know, in my mind, you

know, Transformers... There could be only one.

Well, with Transformers, while they may not have

been the quote -unquote first robot cartoon,

they are the better, higher -class robot cartoon

compared to the Gobots. Well, nobody ever got

murdered in the face on Gobots. That's because

they were lame. They're the Kmart versions of

Transformers. They're the ghetto versions of

robots for everybody. Sure, okay. Yeah. I'm not

gonna argue. Alright. Well, you don't have a

GoBots collection, do you? I have a few. Just

let the kids play with them. I've got them in

a bucket. I just drew them about in the... He'll

let his sons play with go -bots, but they go

anywhere near his transformers. He will bite

their hands off. They're covered behind a glass

partition. wait i thought i pulled a couple out

for pictures and i had to unlock the glass doors

i almost forgot how i was gonna say aren't they

behind glass and lots of wood yeah yeah it's

like wooden big heavy oak doors with wood in

or with the glass inserts and so yeah i unlocked

it pulled out a couple toys and was holding them

side by side with some of the titans return figures

oh heavy Have you see we talked about this last

time I think I cut it out at the end because

we're talking It was after the after the show

a couple days. I think it was after some of the

longs here whatever that was We got to talking

about toys. Have you seen Titans return trypticon?

This thing is fucking huge! They took the original

and just basically upscaled it 4500%. Yeah, I

can't wait to own one. I have the Metroplex,

I have the Fort Max, I have the Devastator. They're

in the box. I haven't taken them out yet. Of

course they're in the box, because you like,

you know, keeping stuff in a box. You're you

you're at 44 years old you've turned into a mint

inbox or mint on card collector. That's not entirely

true. Oh Basically the the deluxe figures for

Titan returns there. I have a shelf for them

I've got an Autobot Shelf and a Decepticon Shelf

and I got a little place off to the side where

I put the little headmasters They are they are

fun to play with. Oh god, that's That's one of

the... I just got Perceptor a few days ago and

I was so happy with him. It's just really cool.

That is one of the things I watched my buddy

Optibotamus's video review of Trypticon. You

know how they have the... How do you get a Trypticon?

He's got it. Anyway... Anyway, no, no, no, no,

don't even. But I was watching Octobotomus's

video review of Trypticon and part of Trypticon's

gimmick is he can eat the headmasters and they

actually go inside the robe like they go down.

There's a little jail in there. Yeah. Yeah. I

saw that. I'm like, you've got to be kidding

me. It's a cool gimmick. I dig it. I like it.

He doesn't walk on his own though, right? No.

Ah, I see now. Can't have everything no, but

you know if they make a new Make a supreme he

better walk I Don't think with the size that

trypticon is I don't think making him walk Robotically

would work is that because Octobotomus compared

him to the original and he had the original one

walking in the original one walks Slower than

a damn tortoise. Oh, yeah So we've kind of nerded

out on everybody here with toys and transfer

We get into these things every now and then when

we'll get on the tangent folks and we'll talk

for an hour and a half about the tangent Yeah,

we're just gonna cut all that out. Yeah, no,

we're gonna leave it in. Nerds of a Feather,

absolutely enjoyed it, thought it was a great

episode, thought it was a fun, funny episode.

This is, I've said this to you several times,

and you're like, what the hell does that mean?

There's a point in here that the argument explodes

to the point of at the end of it, Phineas quotes

it. It's like this character said this in space

adventure blah blah blah Glorf and they have

this little Music thing that glore and I know

I've said this to you and you're like, what the

hell are you talking about? I'm like, it's a

Phineas and Ferb thing Phineas says it in one

of the episodes. So that's that's where I got

Glorf Okay Yeah, I don't know all right folks.

We're gonna take a quick break come back to close

the show after this good All right, we are back

and one thing we forgot to do at the bottom of

the Nerds of a feather was to rate the episode

zero to five What are you gonna give nerds of

a feather? I was gonna give it a four Same here

fours all around Yep, really good having all

three stories Candice and the convention the

a the a and the c story tie in a lot more to

each other obviously gonna mean You know charge

Yeah, you know and she interrupts the the battle

of the nerds here You know and then charge again,

you know, so hers is more of a fish Taylor story

into the a story and I like the doof and puss

story, but it's just kind of there. Normally

we have an innator to fishtail into cleaning

something up, but because this was Phineas and

Ferb and special effects and Kevin Smith, we

didn't need an innator here to clean up the story.

We just needed Candice waving a magic wand, kind

of like she's Medusa or something. Medusa had

a wand? I was making reference to the chariot

episode at the end of that. They're like, oh

my god, she's going to turn people to stone.

OK. Folks, I think OK. Friggin' Bob, I think

OK is going to be the new catchphrase of this

show now. I don't think Bob and Tiana show up

again, though. I'm not sure if they do. They

might show up in the series finale. But yes,

Nerds of a Feather 4 is all around. Absolutely

dug it. Thought it was great. Thank you for joining

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us next time when we will be giving you our thoughts

on the next two -parter, which is the Wizard

of Odd. For now, I am TF2 and Mike with Geekon

and Court Michael. Thank you for listening. Until

next time. Transport him away. Oh crap, that's

funny. But wait, there's more! Say it again.

Aren't you a little young to be a podcaster?

No, no I'm not. Aren't you a little old to be

watching this cartoon show? Yes, yes I am. It's

good to see the nation's senior citizens taking

an interest in cartooning. Yes, yes it is. Yes

it is. There's not really anymore, that's about

it.