Origins In Television with Christopher A. Morton!

Hey, hey, hey, it's the Chaos Queen here, and

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of course, TFJ and Mike, and as you heard, for

our next Origins in Television... Today, I welcome

Mr. Christopher Moose Morton. We're going to

take him through his TV -watching origins and

more. Hello, sir. How are you? Greetings and

salutations. Get ready for a mind trip to a world

of television. Okay, Kermit. Kind of sounded

like Kermit a little bit there. It's like, eh,

Twilight Zone, Kermit. Twilight Zone, Kermit.

I don't know. I got a story about that later

in the podcast. Oh boy. Well, considering I haven't

watched it yet, but considering they brought

back that special for the Muppets and supposedly

they're going to be bringing it back full time.

I don't know if that's true or not, if they're

going to bring it back full time, but no spoilers,

but I will say it's fantastic. Seth Rogen knew

the source material he was shooting with. He

knew the characters. He knew the aspect and the

feeling of the original Muppet Show, and he brought

a very well -placed show. It had so much of the

original Muppet Show in it that I just, like,

it was another episode right at the end of it.

Okay. Excellent job on their part. I mean, he's

a great producer. Yeah. So I give him thumbs

up. It was a big task to bring up such a nostalgic

IP, and he did well with it. So looking forward

to more. Absolutely, absolutely. All right, here

we go, folks. Origins in Television continues.

This is actually the only second episode of this

new series. Look, folks, a lot of crap happened

in 2025. Again, you've probably heard this already.

This episode, episode 184 of the podcast, fits

between 183 and 185. You're fitting between Jaws

and a DeLorean. So, you know, you're either going

to get bitten by a shark or you're going to make

sure you don't ever lend one rich egomaniac a

lot of narcotics. And plutonium. That's right.

Oh, my God, it's the Libyans. Oh, boy. So, yeah,

but we are recording this in 2026. All of the

content you've heard up to this point probably

was recorded over a year ago. All of the content

you're probably going to hear sporadically between

now and episode 200 probably was recorded last

year. Or maybe a year and a half ago by the time

you hear all the future content. I don't know.

Anyway, 30 questions all about your TV watching

habits. Did you grow up watching TV? And at what

age do you first remember really noticing or

falling in love with a television show? Never

watched TV. I was Amish, so I never get to watch

TV. Sorry, you pointed that out. That would be

a bad answer to a first question. Well, you know

what? The Chaos Queen would say that would be

a really horrible first question. She's like,

why would you have them on the show if they didn't

watch TV? I grew up with TV. It wasn't the educational

source where you dropped your kid and walked

away. My parents were active. I was a very active

kid outdoors. I grew up in the streets of Las

Vegas, Nevada to a younger age, so middle school

before I moved to Oregon. So I dealt with a lot

of outdoor stuff. Now, did I watch TV? Absolutely.

There's a lot of shows I remember growing up

watching with my sister, my father, my mother,

my siblings, all. on our little trailer so we

were active there was a lot of shows that we

watched i mean from you know voltron after school

and then my dad would be home to watch that with

me because right after that uh mac was on so

we watched bash together so i get to watch both

of those new five days a week that was our big

thing nice very cool very cool so were there

like allotments of tv because the second question

actually is how much tv were you allowed to watch

did your parents sit you in well you already

answered this part did your parents sit you in

front of the tube to distract you a lot but basically

you said no to that part but were there specific

allotments of time like you could only watch

it from 5 p .m. to 7 p .m. and then, oh, you

got to do your homework or you got to get outside,

kid, and grow some hair on your chest or something.

I don't know. Whatever. I was not regulated.

Both my parents worked heavily there in the gaming

industry and they ran casinos. So they were busy

at work and my sister and I would, you know,

we regulate our time. We never were just tied

to the. because we had other activities. But

it was the mindset of the culture of the kids

growing up in late 70s, early 80s, that wasn't

your focal point. And TV usually was a night

thing you did with the family, not an all -day

thing. So it was definitely a change. I mean,

we didn't see TV being the on point of drop your

kid and walk away until I'd say more into the

90s. the big TV brought when you were away from

the big three and you're into all these other

networks and the network television kind of was

pushed into the backdrop as, you know, online

television was becoming more of the prevalent

motion, like network, all these other networks

that were popping up besides the big three. Well,

you West coasters really had it different than

us East coasters because in the eighties, uh

every single soap opera during daytime soaps

if school wasn't in session and you were at home

or if it was a snow day in massachusetts and

you were at your grandmother's house like i was

it was days of our lives as the world turns guiding

light day one life to live all as the world turns

all my job like that was like plop your kid especially

at grandma's house because grandma ain't doing

nothing i mean like If I stepped one toe outside,

where are you going, Mikey? What you doing, Mikey?

What kids are you hanging out with, Mike? Oh,

my God, Grandma. I just stepped outside to get

the mail for you. Like, I ain't going anywhere,

Grandma. I didn't have to worry about that as

much. My grandparents were gone when I came around.

I can remember Dallas being a big thing my mom

would watch. because that was one of the TV shows

she absolutely loved. I had to sneak Dallas,

Mike. Oh, God. It took me forever to get my mom

to agree to let me. I think it wasn't until I

was 11 years old. It took me four years. It took

me from 91, 90, 89, 80, from 88 to 91. It took

me up until tonight on Dallas. Will JR live or

will he die? Literally, it took me. Uh -huh.

Yep. It took me like I would sneak and I would

go over to friends houses and the friends, my

buddy's mom, Jonathan Bond's mom would let Debbie

Bond wish she would let me watch it and whatever

else. But like and it wasn't like my mom was

like, oh, my God, you can't watch. But I don't

know. For some odd reason, Dallas was the thing

that. Literally, the only thing I watched was

the theme song, and by the end of the theme song,

the end of the opening credits of Dallas. I was

in bed for the night. And it was a Friday. It's

not like I had school the next day. It was Friday

night. Like, what the hell, Ma? All right. Okay,

speaking of Dallas, air quotes here. And I'm

saying air quotes because I don't mean adult

as in, I mean adult as in not a cartoon, not

Sesame Street. What was the first adult show

you remember watching or falling in love with?

Honestly, Magnum B .I. That was one my dad loved.

That's the one I remember catching on to at the

early age. I mean, you're dealing with early,

you know, late 70s, early 80s. And that was the

one he would always watch. Right. And I remember

that one specifically and balancing that with

MASH because I'll talk more about MASH because

what it set for me in the future of what I like

to watch. But I just remember Magnum P .I. because

that was, again, the storyline, the music, the

idea of driving the cool cars and being a private

eye for a rich guy. That was just the dreamy

job. It's like, oh, that's so awesome. Come on,

it's Tom Selleck. He still looks as good now

as he did back then. So it's like, wow, that's

something that would be achieved for. Yeah, absolutely.

Did you have any favorite TV characters when

you were growing up? You just mentioned Tom Selleck.

Tom Selleck's Magnum P .I. Do you have any others?

Growing up, I did. And honestly, this is where

it comes into match. Bash became, it's still

one of my number one shows of all time. It spans,

it ran from 72 to 83. It ran so long over a four

-year technical war. And it was filled with characters

that gave different perspective of human culture.

Two of them in that show were my focus of the

two, which will be Colonel Potter, which was

played by Harry Morgan. Phenomenal for such a

large character. And he knew what he had to do.

I mean, the guy was stern. He was passionate,

but yet he was authoritative. And the other one

was Klinger. Now, this is later Klinger, not

earlier Klinger, Jimmy Favre, because I like

the later Klinger who played the, I can get you

what you need. Just tell me. And I know who to

contact. He was the go -getter. He was the one

that knew everybody. I liked those two personalities.

Between the two, and that's how I model myself

today, even as a manager. I model that background

balance in IT is I'm the authoritative type because

I know my job. I know my role. But yet, you need

something, I'm the guy to ask. Yeah, absolutely.

That's so cool. Were you loyal or partial? to

specific TV networks when you were a kid. How

about now as an adult? No, not really. We phase

that out. I mean, if you look at any generation

younger than us, TV networks are nothing because

we're all by the larger scheme of the corporations.

So I can't say that I ever really, I didn't care

what, you know, what broadcast company did MASH

or Magnum PI or whatever. It was just on TV.

um besides monday night football then we were

all cheering for that so but the the aspect of

being dedicated to the big three versus all these

others granted in the scheme of things you want

to get down to it even though there are other

channels they're all controlled by a larger corporation

which pretty much spans a multitude of networks

so yeah but you know for the part no i i never

developed that loyalty to one of the television

brands over any other like for me like where

that question comes into it's not about the programming

because you're absolutely right it's not about

the act it's not like okay Knight Rider was on

NBC uh whatever uh abc had tgif and cbs had all

this other stuff whatever it isn't about that

where this question kind of comes into me for

is like it's after the local news it's the national

news stuff so in the 80s we had brokaw rather

and jennings yep For the national news programs.

So that's really where this one comes into me.

And for me, I was also loyal to Jennings over

the other two. Because I feel like Jennings always

had the most impartial reporting out of the three

of them. Because he was Canadian. He didn't care.

He cared about the stories, but he had no...

You look at NBC, you look at CBS, they're one

or the other. And I'm not trying to get political

here. I'm just stating a fact. NBC is one side.

CBS is the other side. I'm not trying to go whatever,

whatever, but I'm just saying we all know what

side is what side. But in the 80s, I just looked

at Jennings as he's there to report the story.

Maybe once in a while he would give his personal

opinion. But his personal opinion, as I remember

it as a child of the 80s, was not so, oh my God,

it's hanging off a cliff as the other two were.

The other two were way, way too, I don't know.

But yeah, no. That's how I always viewed that

question as far as loyalty to the networks. It

wasn't about the actual shows that were on them.

True. Absolutely. I mean, again, different culture.

Exactly. Different culture, different time. Yeah.

Yeah, it was before the streaming stuff and everything

else. Speaking of streaming stuff, when streaming

came along, did you resist it at first? What

was the first streaming show that drew you in?

Oh, honestly, for early days, I was in college.

I mean, we're going into the 90s. I ran bulletin

boards back in the day, so we downloaded files

that were like short skits and all that. They

were really cool. But when it comes to early

stuff made on the Internet that was not networked

but more into mainstream, one of the shows that

I absolutely fell in love with was The Undergrads

by Pete Williams. Yeah. I mean, I know we're

going to be coming across these one season kind

of shows, but it was one of those early that

you could see on the network and people shared

it. And it was really popular, but it came right

at a time when there was a crunch of quick animation

and they dropped a lot. So it was one of those

I got sacrificed by. It came a little bit before

its time, kind of like Clone High and a few others.

But it was great. It was one of the first shoes

I got to, you know, you get online, you can look

at episodes online, you can see it. And I thought

it was well done. The platform was there. And

as cable came into play and all these other networks

were coming into play, you know, we have the

birth of the internet just about the same time.

So you're seeing this juncture between getting

into cable and get all these channels versus

getting online and seeing the stuff online. We,

we didn't quite have the technology yet to stream

constantly. You would have download chunks. It

was slow. Yeah. Versus cable. I mean, I had old

dial up modems. I were 14, four bod and we're

like, yeah. So on my old Commodore 64, it wasn't

one of the early shows that I liked. It was just

the push of that medium was a good foundational

start to it. Yeah, absolutely. Do you still watch

broadcast TV or cable TV? Why or why not? In

that aspect, straightly, like I'm waiting for

the episode to drop, kind of no. But lately,

yes. But I stream it through, of course, the

apps. Two shows I picked up, normally I don't

care about. When the show comes out, I'm the

Netflix generation. Drop the season, I'll find

a time to binge it. Episodic shows, two of them,

I've come to the point where I'll watch it weekly

because I've come to the point I want to. That's

Academy, that I actually love, and The Pit, which

is... If you haven't seen either one of those,

if you're a Star Trek sci -fi fan, the Academy

is fantastic, and it does great for the Star

Trek realm. I know there's haters out there,

but they've done a good job writing for the history

of Star Trek. The Pit, which is kind of a second

life of the old ER TV series that I did love

at the time. I watched it religiously. That was

one of those shows I did catch on a weekly basis.

Right, right. But it's kind of a reiteration

of that changed to a work shift, which was a

15 -hour or 12 -hour work shift. And every episode

is one hour. It's kept kind of in real time,

kind of like 24. Yeah, okay, I got you. But it's

well done, well written. Any doctor watches it.

I watched a couple of doctors review, like Dr.

Mike, who does YouTube. They do a great job representing

what a ER is in the inner city. And Nola White

wrote this. He stars in it. He's from ER. I mean,

he was a young doctor in ER from episode one,

and he ends as head of the ER at the end of the

series. This is kind of like his character in

that, just griddled. He's been down the road.

He's burnt. But he's teaching these students

to be the new doctors, to care about their patient,

and move on. Two shows. Weekly comes out, and

I'm all right with that. It doesn't bother me.

I know they come out Thursday. That one actually

is weird because it comes out Thursday 6 p .m.

Then you can start streaming it. Yeah. So, yeah.

So I've kind of gotten back into that. I mean,

most cases I just stream what I need. Yeah. Yeah.

I both love and hate Netflix for what they got

us into. Yeah. Look here, here's it all here.

I hear all of it. You can have it all. Whether

it's eight episodes, whether it's 13 episodes,

whether it's 26 episodes, you can have it all.

You can do it all on your own time. They did

that to us for the longest frigging time. And

it got me into the point of, Oh, look, I can

do this on my own time whenever I want. And I've

had that mindset for the last 15 fucking years.

And I will have that mindset for the next 25.

years i i'm 46 now 25 years from now i'll be

40 old 60 old yes old 60 something and i i just

i can't like there's only one show that i'm currently

doing the whole okay fine i'll wait a week but

every other show i'm like i don't care about

you you you aren't good enough to me to wait

for you or no, no, no, no. That's not what it

is. You aren't good enough for me to watch you

on a weekly basis. You like, I can wait for you.

You're, you're not, you, you, you ain't like

high potential on ABC is the only show that I

will wait a week for and watch it. The, when

it hits Hulu the next day kind of thing, everything

else I'm like, I can wait and find you 10 years

after you're off air. Catch up then. And I hate

to see like six episodes for a season. I think

that's garbage. I'm all right with a 10. I mean,

back in the day, it was 25, 30 episodes in a

season. Yeah, exactly. One hour episodes, 10.

That's 10 hours of content they need to build

up to tell a story. That works. It works well.

That works, yeah. So you see a lot of people

like the Landman. It was a great series. It's

a Paramount+. Absolutely another one that I caught

episodically because I love the people. I love

the actor. I love the storyline. It's not one

that's rehashed or retold over and over and over

again. But here we go with 10 episodes. They

can tell a full story by the end of the season.

That is okay. It's a start. It's a height of

the story. The big thing they have to overcome.

And there's an ending with a small cliffhanger.

Or if the series ends, a nice finale that wraps

up the story. Well done. Six episodes, not going

to get there. It's too short. Yeah. And that's

not a season. I know they try to do like two

episodes at a time. And that format actually

worked well in – it's not a TV show. It's a game,

but it pretty much is, which is the one Aaron

Paul just put out. Oh, God. I don't even know

off the top of my head. I know. I was just looking

at it the other day. But it's a game that basically

is a TV show, and it's a dispatch office, and

you're dispatching heroes. I'll dispatch. Dispatch.

Yeah. Yeah. That was the first attempt. They

took a game and it made it from a TV series really

into the game itself. So you're not really playing

very much in it. There's not a lot of movement.

You're making decisions that changes stories

outcome. So you're kind of a producer. Gotcha.

It's a well done because we had 10 episodes,

which is 10 game sessions. You had to play. and

you told a story. And really, that's what it

comes down to. Just tell the story. Tell something

worthwhile. Give it purpose. Care about the characters

within the first few episodes, but move the story

along. And I'll tell you, we're going to come

across one that you know that I hated. I'm going

to let that stay, but there is a show that I

absolutely hated, and I'll give you great reasons

why. Okay. because i know that's a question coming

down the park yep yep yep question eight is a

question that so everybody usually asks me when

i offer out any of the hey would you like to

be on any of the origins blah blah they'll say

oh can i see the question list and i'm like i

forgot i know i forgot that with this new format

with the origins and tell there is one question

i'm supposed to send out and that is question

eight because you were so i didn't do my i didn't

do my prep correctly and i we might have a problem

here but can you name your personal top 10 shows

of all time go you son of a gun okay so I did

think about this because I knew it was going

to come down. I listened to the other show. Okay,

good. And I'm going to go over this top ten now.

I'm not going to go with the regulars that are

off. Firefly, Scrubs, all these geek out, we

know what we have. Here's ten that had impacts

in the genre that they were a part of. That means

a lot, not to me, but others. On that list, I

will top off on the bottom, BoJack Horseman.

Animation was fantastic. It was rough. It was

gritty. They walked in there with such a craziness

of a storyline. Will Arnett, absolutely wonderful.

And the voice acting. And, of course, Aaron Paul.

So good. And my daughter and I watched it. And

it's like other shows that have this. At the

end of the episode, there was a lesson. If you

listen to the episode. And one of the best episodes

of Bojack Horseman, there was no speaking at

all until the very, very end where he throws

out a profanity. Oh, shit. The whole idea. So

it was great. So that would be at the bottom

of those top ten. Moving up from there, I would

say Band of Brothers. World War, it came in 2001.

World War II. gritty, great special effects,

but told a great story about what it was like

on the front lines during World War II. Absolutely

wonderful if anyone wants to catch it. Next was

more current, and I only got to watch it because

I was with my friends. I don't do Apple TV, but

this has great impact on me. It was for all mankind.

Started in 2019. It's still going on today. It's

going to be one of the last seasons. Alternative

History of the United States, where we did not

make it to the moon first. The Russians did.

And it sets off this race. And it's great because

the episode starts and you hear all the history.

And as it goes through, things change in the

history. And there's little news reports where,

like, JFK doesn't get shot. So now you're dealing

with this. Or other people got shot, like the

Pope. And this changed the religion. This changed

that. By the end of the first episode, they do,

between seasons, about a 10 -year jump. So you

see NASA grow into this profitable corporation

because they make leaps and bounds to get to

the moon, to get a moon base, to beat the Russians,

and then the Chinese are involved. And then the

North Koreans push for it, or the Koreans push

for it. And then there's a push to Mars. But

our technology, by the 80s, we have electric

vehicles. Because we've pushed that technology

because we're pushing Russia to get better. Great

writing, amazing acting from all the characters

that are in it. But be on anyone's top ten for

sure. Next, we go into Babylon 5 from 93 to 98.

That was an absolutely wonderful show for political

intrigue, how our own personal biases would react

into other races. And if they had to be put together

to work together, how some races, you know, you

enslaved us for 100 years. What do you think

we're going to do? Go for peace every time now?

No. You got a lot of hatred there that you have

to overcome. And they have a great storyline.

It's one of those, they flushed it really well

over the seasons it was running. Next, it was

a toss -up between Battlestar Galactica, the

new one, or Caprica. And I went with Caprica.

on that one, because Caprica ran in 2010. It

was a predecessor of the Battlestar Galactica,

the new version of it, and even though the new

one was wonderful, I really liked it, except

for the mid -seasons, which was really stupid,

and they got stranded on the planet. I thought

it ended well, a lot better than Battlestar Galactica

1984. And they brought into Caprica, which is

the predecessor to that, why the Cylons became

sentient. And the way they became sentient is

what we're dealing with today with AI. And it

was such a telling story back then to where we're

at now. And it's really scary. We're on the cusp

of creating Cylons the way they are. So good

show to watch. Then we cut back to a little bit

older, but very nerdy IT crowd. Very well done

for British comedy. A lot of great actors in

that one. I mean, Richard Holiday, which people

have seen. Graham Baker, Marker. Again, it was

a very well sitcom comedy. And see, this is where

the British call black comedy, because it's really

dark and it's slapstick. But if you want to see

a varying range of acting, great show to watch.

Moving up the list, we're moving into Warehouse

13. And I had to merge Eureka into this, only

because they kind of won in the same universe,

and they overlapped themselves very well. But

the show was, when it pushed the boundaries of

science, they gave us those really weird... and

outstretched science ideas to make him as real

as possible. And Joe Morton's in there was my

favorite character. I absolutely loved him being

the town, you know, fix it all man, but he wasn't

super important to run the big corporation. He

just, he could do everything. He knew everything.

Great story for Eureka. And then in warehouse

13 became that premise of. What if all these

items had some kind of power that we had to control?

And they had a great, rich history because there's

12 other warehouses. Where do they go? The ending

did wrap up well. But it's a great story because

it had little story arcs in each episode that

told some actual factual history about an item

and a person. So you actually get a little bit

of history. I mean, it ran from 2009 to 2014,

2015 for Warehouse 13. I did meet Eddie McClintock

and got to sit down and talk with him for quite

some time. Wonderful. And we got a sting for

him for Indie Podcasts when we could do that

at Comic -Con. Nice. Second up from the top,

Voltron. And that is Lion Force from 84 -85.

I grew up loving the Voltron Lions. And I will

give a shout -out to Defenders, which ran from

2016 to 2018. I thought they did a great job.

A little shaky in the middle, like most series,

but they ended it well because they lead right

into Voltron Vehicle Force in the end of that

series. And I wish they would have continued

it because I wasn't a vehicle person, but I would

have liked to have seen what they could have

done with it. But original Voltron, I grew up

with it. I grew up. That was the idea. These

great, fantastic lines, ordinary people got to

control them and they defended the universe.

And it was just great. Now the reuse. Now I look

back at it and rewatch it. I'm like, God, they

use that same building Voltron so much. They

get a lot of money out of it. It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter that they used it so much.

It's still so fucking cool. It is, absolutely.

And of course, number one, as I mentioned before,

M .A .S .H. It's just a well -done show. I regret

the fact I never got to meet any of the people.

Even though one of them lived on the coast of

Oregon, David Ogenspheres, wonderful vorge actor.

He's a great... person, but he passed before

I could meet him. And I know some of them were

doing Pittsburgh Steel Con. And I was really

trying to make plans to go to see him, but we

lost Loretta Swift early last year. So there's

not many left of that cast. But Alan Alden is

still around. Jimmy Farr is still around. Gary

Bernhoff. I'd love to see these people. But again,

I grew up watching MASH. I grew up the lessons

of MASH. the realism of what war is, the consequences

of before and after war. After M .A .S .H., that

never existed. We refused that. That was never

filmed. But the show M .A .S .H. loved it. Top

of the line, if you've got to watch something,

it's a great watch today. You can sit down and

watch them. It's not out of practice when it

comes to storylines and what it represents. Yeah,

absolutely. Did you say David passed away as

well? Yeah, he passed away many, about four or

five years ago. Really? Yeah, he was living in

Coos Bay, Oregon, I believe. No, Brookings. He

was in Brookings, Oregon. He lived out there.

Wait a minute. You're telling me that Jumba is

gone? Yeah, that's why he wasn't in the new movie.

That's why they had to get a different voice,

because he had passed away. Oh, man. Damn it.

A lot of, a lot of people say, Lauren, I was

the last one of the main cast that passed away

this past. I followed her and her Facebook or

Instagram. I mean, she did a lot of promoting

and she was on out and all those podcasts he

has going on right now a couple of times. But

yeah, that was, I was sad for that one. Yeah.

That's so stinks. Oh, boy. All right. So who

are some of your favorite TV writers and why?

Oh, we're going to go right into MASH because

there was so many writers in that series. And

what's nice is that was one of the series where

you saw a lot of the actors like Alan Alda, I

think Wayne Rogers, Mike Farrell. They all wrote

episodes in that. And in fact, Alan Alda directed

several on top of that. That was some of the

early writers that I knew of on TV shows that

I thought were really interesting in writing

and producing. And then from there, you go into,

honestly, I jump into the late 80s, which became

Star Trek Next Generation. And then you realize

how many of those actors. Jonathan Frakes has

become a writer. Oh, yeah. Jonathan Frakes is

amazing. Yeah. But they've all dabbled in episodes

where they've gotten their input. So that's another

great show that came in there. It's usually on

everyone's list. That's why it wasn't on mine.

Trust me. But it's. It was a great idea that

these actors who knew the parts and knew the

IP really dove themselves into it more by writing.

And even afterwards, they wrote other stuff.

They're produced on Broadway. So it's good to

see that aspect. But those are some of the actors

that I followed that became writers that I appreciate.

Honestly, I don't look at a lot of the writers

beyond that. I mean, there's a lot that I've

come across with BoJack Horseman. which had several

writers composed in that one. And Will Arnett

was a writer, I believe, for that for several

episodes. I think Aaron Paul took some strokes

and Alison Brie also took some strokes on writing

in that one too. I believe him. I can't say all

of it, but I know they were involved with a lot

of it because I know a lot of them were executive

producers as well. So they got into that. party

so they carried a lot of hats in that but that

was another show that was well done because the

actors got involved with the creation of the

show yeah what defines a good story to you a

good story gives you the ability to care about

the characters involved with the story and really

invest in how it's going to go whether it's good

or bad Sometimes a bad ending is a good way to

go. It was expected. It's the way it had to resolve.

And a good writer will write it to where you

can walk away going, that sucks. I didn't like

it. But it's all right. Because we move forward

from that point on. Deep Space Nine was one that

did, I thought, really well. Dropping Cisco,

just disappearing for the profits. And which

is great because, by the way, the recent Academy

episode features all about Cisco and what happened

to him, how he was a figure. I mean, you're dealing

with so many hundreds of years later and the

idea of him becoming this figure. But when they

wrote the show that way, it's like, that's harsh.

You know, he's not getting his happy ending.

You know, he has a wife, he has a kid or two

kids. One was on the way. The prophets took them.

And the aspects of people were shocked by it.

It wasn't a happy ending, but it didn't have

to be. And that's all right. There's nothing

wrong with that. So that's the important of the

story. I mean, give it to the point. Unlike all

the TV shows that can't give you the give a crap

about the characters. And we're going to talk

about that show as well. Same one. But the idea

is that you've got to get invested. You've got

to give them a reason why. These people matter.

And that's the downside of a short 30 minute

shows. Cause it takes seasons. I mean, you have

to give a show a couple episodes. You really

get invested. The Academy, I'd say three episodes

to really start liking the characters. And now

I'm more into it. The pit. You didn't need it

because as much as you got good screen time with

the characters, those characters built up quickly

because they had time to do small flush outs

of the characters. But you had one central character

to build from that you already knew a history

to. Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah. What does this story

have to have to draw you in? So you watch the

first couple of episodes. What is all of that

story have to have to keep you watching? It has

to have me a reason to want to see the next step

in the evolution of the story as in either character

development or a character flaw developing. I

want to see why the character is doing what they're

doing, how they plan to try to resolve it. I'm

using newer shows, by the way, because it's more

fresh in my mind. Right. Landman was a great

build on that kind of premise. Because here we

have a character that was, I mean, he's done

by Billy Bob Thornton. And you have big actors

in this one. Demi Moore, Jon Hamm, Andy Garcia.

I mean, there's people there. And you're seeing

the fault of the character in the trials that

they had to go through. And at the end of each

episode, there is something just doesn't quite

go their way. And they got to deal with that

and not push it off. like kick a can down the

road scenario. They're going to deal with it,

and they're going to deal with the consequences

that come with it because it may not be a good

thing to have to deal with or a thing that's

right to do, but it's a thing they had to do.

It's well written. It got me engaged to the next

episode, and it got me engaged to the next season.

Now, there's only two seasons of it, and I don't

think they might be coming back for a third.

They ended it on a really good note. So it's

not like a big cliffhanger, but because they

can end it now and I'm all right with it. It's

like, hey, good ending. Very cool. But it's a

good, it's a development. You tell a story from

start to finish. Bojack Horseman, there's another

one. It's animated, but it was, when you're done

at the end of the story, it's good. Another animation

one I'll have to admit is She -Ra. I liked, even

though it was a little too corny at times. When

you get down to it, the story of She -Ra in the

new run of it, from the beginning to the very

end, pull the story. And you knew where it was

kind of going in the beginning, but they wrap

it up well at the end. So you can walk away from

that story and go, hey, that was a good story.

And I'll add another video game on that was Stranger

Than Life. That is a video game. Another one,

there's a little more action to that. It's an

early version, really bad graphics, but they

put all their money into a storyline. And when

I was done playing that, and your decisions make

a big decision at the end of the game. And when

it's done, your story is done. You've completed

that story. Again, I'm a guy who's on the stage.

I'm a thespian. I spent many years on the stage

in high school. Even after high school, I was

on the Shakespeare Festival. I did their stage.

I got to be a part of a lot of big game plays

and stories. So that story is important. I want

people to walk away at the end of something,

hey, that was great, or hey, that was bad, but

wow, what a story. And these are things that

told that story. Stranger Life, once it was done,

I installed the game. I didn't want to know the

other. That was my story. My journey, like in

the book, is complete. And books have the same

premise when I read them, no different than TV

shows, is you've got to get me invested on the

first character to make me want to read more.

The Dragon Prince is another great one. Animation,

good style. Right from the beginning, you care

about the princes. And you care about what they

have to go through to get to the journey's end.

And it's still in production today, but again,

it's a good story and it grabs an attention.

They didn't have to tell a ton of backstory,

which kills a lot of TV shows because they have

to tell so much backstory to get the character

to be believable or even likable, then you ruin

the pacing of the show. And again, that goes

into another show that I absolutely hate. Who

are some of your favorite TV actors and actresses?

Boy, I've already mentioned most of them. I mean,

from MASH and others, but more recently, Billy

Bob Thornton, I absolutely like the way he does

his characters. Sam Elliott, when he was on The

Ranch, and most of his shows, like from the Yellowstone

series and all that. Sam Elliott, phenomenal

actor. He's on Landman, by the way, as the father.

absolutely glorious production or a actor of,

of a character of an old character who's going

through the end stage of his life. Yeah. One

of the best lines is he's in a nursing home.

He saw a guy who had Alzheimer's, but he, he

was smiled and he was happy every day because

he didn't remember he was dying as his, his curse

is he has a sharp mind, but a failing body and

he has to watch it rot. knowing farewell where

he was ending up. And that was just... And he

delivers it with just such pizzazz. Top of the

line actor. Nearly everyone from Star Trek Next

Generation, because they've gone into so many

series. Johnson Frakes, honestly, is one of my

favorites. Right after Star Trek, he went into

the television series Gargoyles, the animation

series. And that's another one that's... You

know, people always say I didn't have it on my

list because it's one of the people usually bring

up, but I will say amazing. There's, there's

a series that had a great start, had a great

story, great in until the last season. Yeah.

And then they had a little, that third season

was a little sketchy. Well, most of the actors

have pulled off because they thought they were

going to get canceled, and they pulled in people

that didn't know the IP. Now, Dark Horse has

tried to redeem it by putting out a new comic

series that doesn't really take in that last

season. And they're doing well with it. It's

a great comic series. If you catch it, it's just

gargoyles, but it kind of picks off where season

two ended, which is really well. That and, which

is something we have to do over on the pull bag

still, which I have plans for this year, that

and they also, I'm assuming it's Dark Horse.

I haven't really looked at it yet, but I've been

downloading the first two issues at least. They're

doing gargoyles. x darkwing duck it just started

i think i have the order for the first episode

we need matt my roommate here he is the comic

guy for the podcast yeah we'll do that oh yeah

yeah we'll we'll do that eventually but yeah

all right is there a criminally underrated show

that you think everyone needs to watch Criminally

underrated show that everyone should watch. I

threw a lot of that in my top 10 because those

were shows that people probably didn't watch.

I would push them toward Fringe. Fringe from

2009 to 2013, come on. It was such a well -done

show that people didn't carry it on as much as

they should have because it was... An amazing

show with just great actors. I mean, John Noble

in that was flipping great. To be that borderline

craziness. Now, all the other people in there,

Anna, Joshua, Lance Riddick. I mean, come on,

Lance Riddick. We love them. Played great characters.

But if you wanted to show that touch on the fringe

of reality. That gave you the touch of a little

bit of Twilight Zone mixed in with it. This is

a good show to watch. It was intriguing. It caught

the attention. It had overlying story arcs, but

they had episodics of different scenarios going

on. But it touched into the overlying to a season

story arc as well as a series of over arc. So

it hit on the markers on a lot of good spots.

when it comes to writing, when it comes to directing.

I mean, it was created by J .J. Abrams and Alex

Kurtzman, but the showrunners themselves ran

that series. Season two got a little shaky on

it, but they were kind of iffy on if they're

going to get the money. I guess I'll also say

it's also kind of related to the X -Files in

that sense as well. True. But it brought in a

lot. Looking for one of those shows you don't

hear as much as about? Fringe had like five seasons,

a hundred or so episodes. Well worth the binge

watch. Yeah, absolutely. What's the one series

cancellation that just destroyed you? Do we want

to just go Firefly and just be like, oh, no,

no, it sucks. There was a lot. that I didn't

like. And I'll go back to one of the ones I've

already talked about because I liked it was when

animation came out in the undergrads. I thought

Matt Williams had a foundation with Alan Park,

Richard Bensley, Susan Quinn, Jane Yeo. Canadian

actors, they're in that aspect because I think

some of them did Second City TV. But that was,

for early animation, it was a good little show

with aspects of what college life is like. And

they hit the nail on the head for it. And it

was sad that it only went one season and the

producers killed it because they just didn't

see what it was doing anymore. And it became

a cult classic. And there's a big following.

And they've always, Pete Williams has been wanting

to bring it back in some variety, but just can't

get the backers up. But it was one of those sacrifices

from the... Early 2000s, I thought it was a hard

-hit one. I hated to see it end because they

couldn't tell a good story. I mean, there's a

lot of series that ended, like Warehouse 13 and

all that, that I didn't want to end, but at least

they told the story at the end of it. But Autograd

was unfortunately cut before its time. Jeez,

looks like someone poked the anthill with a stick.

Yeah, last week of school, everyone's bugging

out. Check it out. Walk of shame. The walk of

what? Witness. The walk of shame is particularly

prevalent during Screw Week. That unique time

of the year when the Collegian finally puts the

moves on their close friend of the opposite sex

before summer break. The walk of shamer can easily

be spotted often wearing clothing of the person

they just hooked up with. Dude, those look like

your clothes. Nah. Oh, I'm all out of Knicks'

hats, lady. Take Knicks' boxer shorts. What is

your favorite run or story arc within a series?

So let's just say, insert whatever show name

here. It has, let's say, five or six or seven

seasons. What is your favorite story arc within

that show? Ah, so many I've already talked about.

We're going to one I haven't talked about, and

it's all in sci -fi, absolutely loved, was D

-Space Nine. Ah, yes. It was a well, at first

they took the first season trying to build up

the characters. I mean, they had nostalgia they

had to pull off. It was a tough time because

you're in a Star Trek community that saw the

loss of a next generation that was, I didn't

say a loser, they kind of moved into movies.

So they had to carry on without bringing cast

over yet. As we all know, several characters

eventually move over or showed guest appearances

on Deep Space Nine. But they built a story that

they told that you heard briefs about it in Next

Generation, where Generation One did more of

the traditional episodic. They didn't have too

many long story arcs within it, some small ones.

Deep Space Nine started out with one where it

started a large... series story arc with seasonal

story arcs built within it. And it was a well

-done one, especially when the Dominion War kicks

up and then the war with the Klingons. They've

really ramped up telling these broad stories

that they had to respect canon because everything

they were telling was becoming canon in a much

larger universe that they had to reference to.

They didn't even realize how many future shows

beyond that that were going to take place. So

they took the time to write series of episodes

that kind of were able to be looked back upon

and go, here's some information about this race.

Here's some information about how things are

done or how they run the bar corks. You know,

now the joke, you see corks everywhere in the

universe. You know, there's one in Academy when

they shoot over San Francisco and right off the

pier of San Francisco, there is a corks right

there bar. that you can see. So, a lot to take

down, but definitely for StoryArk, I absolutely

loved it. Very cool, very cool. What is one TV

show you can watch over and over again? All of

these are great, but I have to say Scrubs. It's

coming back. I have to put Scrubs in there for

that question, because it is one of the ones

that I can sit down and watch regularly. Now,

MASH 2, I can do it. And several of these I can

do it with. But I absolutely love Scrubs for

the comedy, the special episodes I came across.

I mean, there's friends and all that when I do

have time. Honestly, that's my other problem.

We'll have a lot of time. I'm kind of busy. When

I want to take time for a good laugh, Scrubs

is one I love to go back to. It's well worth

the watch. I'm super excited. I mean. It'll probably

premiere before this comes out, but they're bringing

in the next season. They're not even calling

a reboot or a new series. It's just the next

season of Scrubs. And nearly everybody's coming

back for this, which is fantastic because basically

the main character's coming back, going to take

over as, with a premise scene, he's taking over

as the educator for the new doctors. So basically

Dr. Cox is leaving. So he's only there to kind

of hand it off. To JD. to JD and then move on.

But I guess there's a lot of characters, I mean,

they're all still alive, coming back to bring

back Kelso. I heard the rumor is Kelso's coming

back. He's on the board of directors. Just come

back and just berate everybody. It's going to

be great. Seeing this 80, 90 -year -old guy just

berate people. Well, that's usually what we do.

Absolutely. Question 17 and 18 are different.

But 17 is, is there one TV show that everyone

watches or watched that you just can't get into?

And then question 18, I answer these separately,

obviously. Question 18, are there any TV shows

that you regret spending time with? They are

two separate questions. They are not the same

question because... You regretting spending time

with is something separate from something that

everyone watches or watch that you just can't

get into because if you haven't watched it and

everyone else has, that's different. So question

17, is there one TV show that everyone watches

or watch that you just can't get into? They kind

of overlap, sir. This does overlap. We're going

to go into my rant. A little bit. I'll do the

first one, really point out, lost. Lost, I cannot

like at all. I absolutely hated lost. The late,

great Terry Dykstra would always point out how

horrible Lost was because here's a story writing

where the heroes get guns and they run off to

the bad guys and for some stupid reason give

the bad guys the guns and then retreat, find

more guns, run right back to the bad guys and

give them the guns and then retreat again. It

was a repetitive storyline that could never build

on anything. Keeping holes just in a moment,

the smoke monster, but they will never tell why,

or the polar berry. It's one of those shows that

I absolutely, truly hated because it was just

terrible writing for me to follow. People loved

it. People liked the actors or how they looked

or what they did. No. It wasn't good. It wasn't

great. It wasn't the way people would act after

surviving a plane crash. Honestly, that many

survivors on how much little records was left

is amazing. But it wasn't believable. And I couldn't

get behind it. And I did. I watched it only because

everybody else was watching it. It's so good.

I know Keith, the other podcaster for the podcast,

he swore by how great it was. And Keith, no,

it sucked. It wasn't a good show. It's not rewatchable.

You can't plop it in there and watch and go,

this was all right. He can't even do that. It

was a bad show. Yeah, I watched like the first

five episodes of the first season. And after

the fifth episode, I'm like, Charlie, dude. Go

find Bailey and the rest of the family and figure

the family shit out. Go find your family. I'm

like, Matthew Fox, what are you doing in this

show? Like, really? And I don't even know one

of the roles. Anthony Quinn, Aiden Quinn, whatever

the hell his name is. Yeah, I've never been a

Lost fan. I watched the first five episodes of

the first season, and I think I watched the finale

just to make sure it actually ended. It was like

a St. Elsewhere ending, too. Even when there's

a spoiler alert on some of this, in the St. Elsewhere,

it was pretty much the mind of an autistic kid

in a snow globe. So the whole series was fake

and lost ends the same way. It's like the writers

were so stoned and at the end they became sober

and like, what in the world were we trying to

tell? I don't know. Well, just ended in a dream.

Okay. And there's other shows that ended terribly.

Don't get me wrong. Stein. Yeah. Not a great

ending. Could have been better. They had a lot

of material, but they didn't know what to write,

so they gave it an ending. So what was the other

one? If I tried to separate Lost being the complete

disappointment, another one I tried to watch

and tried to get into, there was a couple of

them. Fargo. That was another one. Fargo. I tried

to get into it, and I kind of regretted it. I

didn't really care for it. Wasn't that a movie?

Yeah, well, no, there's a TV show called Fargo.

It's based upon the movie. Oh, screw that. Yeah,

so it wasn't what I tried to watch it. It was

like, and I guess I can throw another one in

there, too, is the Archie's. Oh, Riverdale. Riverdale.

There's another one. People are trying to get

into it. And I was like, no, I regretted wasting

time on those episodes. It wasn't well done.

And I like Sabrina. I thought that was. on a

right direction. Again, horrible later seasons

because writers had a good premise and then they,

oh shoot, we wrote everything we wanted to. What

do we write now? We have like three more seasons.

They suffered the fate of not having the ending

ready to go and then went their way to an ending.

They had to start. And book writers, when you

write a book, you always get the ending written

and work your way to the ending. But keep it

flexible so you don't pigeonhole yourself. And

these TV shows just didn't have an ending, so

they didn't know how to get to an end point.

So those are ones I regret trying to watch because

of recommendations, but I just regret it. I wasted

my time. Yep, yep, yep. Do you have a physical

or digital media collection of TV shows? How

large or small is it? In the day of... Everything

being bought and stored in like Amazon Prime

on that, I do have a large collection of VHS

tapes and DVDs. I have a lot of, because my son

grew up, so I have a lot of Disney with both

my son and my daughter. Disney movies on VHS.

I have several of them moved over into early

stages of DVD. TV series, Stargate SG -1. I haven't

got to talk about that much, but beautiful series

to watch. Well worth it. Oh, yeah, I love that

show. I have it all on DVD. I got MASH on DVD,

and then I got a couple other ones over there,

different smaller series that I kind of liked.

But those are the two that I have the complete

series of because, you know, those ones, I'm

just going to watch this disc of episodes because

you can do that. You can plop it in there, get

caught up where they're at, and watch it. Yep,

absolutely. Was there ever a moment where you

were like, that's it, I'm done with TV? Dude,

lost was that moment. The moment where I had

zero faith in TV broadcasting because they hyped

everything up in that stupid show and they made

it such a great thing. And it was just crap.

And I was done with TV, but I wasn't watching

TV as much. I was doing other things. I streamed

a lot of things. I did a lot of online content

like YouTube. I watched YouTube series back then.

but I could because I like the YouTube animators.

Um, that's what I was into the guild, which was

all YouTube. Um, and that was phenomenal. I liked

watching all that kind of stuff. So I wasn't

too much upset as, you know, it was a heartbreak

more as I just didn't want to deal with it anymore.

Cause it's just garbage. Yeah. that was out there.

So loss was one of those big moments that I really

just did not care. Now I'm having faith come

back with stuff like the Academy and, and land

man and, um, the pit, um, they're, they're outside

of the network broadcast, but still under the

umbrella, but they have promise. So I'm looking

forward to seeing some more stuff like that.

Yeah. Very cool. Very cool. You already just

mentioned everything, kind of, but I'm going

to ask this question anyway. What are you currently

watching right now, and what do you think our

listeners should check out? You just mentioned

Landman and The Pit. What else should people

be checking out that you're watching? Well, and

then I said the Academy, Star Trek Academy. But

right now we're in the realm where you can watch

streaming stuff too. So you can go back and catch

a lot of the other stuff. But those are some

active things. I've been catching up on a couple

episodes of NCIS. I mean, I was a big fan of

NCIS back in the day. I did love the show. I

love the writing. Mark Harmon did a well job

building that storyline. It's one of the ones

that suffered the MASH syndrome. or you lost

a lot of main characters, but you're able to

bring somebody on to keep the show popular and

in the top spot. Well, after 23 seasons, I mean,

you know. But they've been able to keep the storyline

still relatively fresh and an overlying story

arc still building. So I'll give them that. It's

not the best show as it was back in the day.

But it does well. Other shows I caught that were

more shifting gears, I love Tim Allen. I love

the work he does. And I actually enjoy that sitcom

right now that's playing because I enjoy watching

those. But usually I don't wait for them to come

out. I'll let them go a couple episodes and catch

them on streaming. George and Mandy's First Wedding,

another good anime or comedy. It went back to

old -style laugh tractor, which I'm not super

impressed by. But I do like seeing how they're

building out the Big Bang Theory a little bit

more in these prequel stuff. Yeah. Because right

now, the next one's coming out, which is Stuart's

Comic Shop. Yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely.

The NCIS stuff, man. Oh, God. i need to well

first of all i need to get rich or die trying

because i know seriously like yeah okay fine

it's a joke but like i need to be able to buy

all 14 or 15 or however many seasons there are

of los angeles because los angeles isn't actively

streaming anywhere like it's not on cbs it's

not on paramount like they only have certain

seasons of los angeles streaming and i can't

find any of the active dvds anymore It's not

on Blu -ray. It's definitely not on 4K yet. So

I know Amazon has, I think they have all the

seasons, but that's like $19 a season times 14.

I need to find a rich alky to leave me in their

will. Yeah. Anyway. And on Fisk and the RDX,

comes down to us. You made us against Fisk, his

bodyguards, the crew, neo -Nazis, and the LAPD

SWAT team that may or may not be on our side.

Gotta love Tuesdays. Ladies and gentlemen, TF2

and Mike here, breaking into this very old episode

of Studio 2009. This is episode 184, The Origins

in Television, with my buddy Christopher Moose

Morton. As you're listening to this, I just finished

up my NCIS Los Angeles discussion here with him.

Since this episode was recorded, yes, there is

a NCIS LA... Full Complete Series DVD set. It's

not Blu -ray, it's not 4K, but there is a DVD

set. And my good buddy Dave McElvenny did gift

me the Complete Series bundle on Fandango. So,

from July 5th to August 15th of 2026, I have

now watched all 14 seasons of NCIS Los Angeles.

I love that freaking show. I don't know how many

times I will go back and re -watch NCIS Los Angeles,

but oh man, watching all 14 seasons in practically

a month or so? Wow, what a binge watch. Now,

back to the show. I love it when a plan comes

together. Did you just quote the A -Team? He

quoted the A -Team. You boys got a problem with

that? Not at all. Strong choice. But I love,

like, when they did that shift from when they

started and introduced Los Angeles, I was like,

ooh, O'Donnell and Cool J. Let's go. Let's go.

And then I never get into Hawaii. I never get

into Sydney. But when they introduced Origins

recently, Origins on season two or season whatever,

I'm like, oh, what's this? And I'm like, oh,

yeah, we're back, baby. Because have you watched

Origins? Please tell me. Okay, good. And I do

like it. Yeah, me too. I'm like, oh, my God.

Like, yeah, no, absolutely. I was there. I never

got into Jag. Jag was just not my thing. Jag

was at a time in CBS's lineup where I'd rather

watch Marshall Law or Walker or Nash Bridges.

Nash Bridges was my thing. And I just never got

into Jag. I remember Jag fondly. I loved Jag.

I watched it recently. And it's one of those,

God, why did I watch this? This is not. Yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah. This is actually really, really

bad. But I remember it so fondly. Yeah. That

was one of the ones I was, like, shocked about

rewatching it. And that should be a question.

It's like, what show have you rewatched? And

I went, oops, I probably shouldn't have liked

that one. Mm -hmm. Yeah. Well, it's. Yeah, maybe

I need to add in a rewatch question somewhere

or rework one of the questions to be a rewatch

question. But yeah, no, I never got into Jag.

And then they're like, oh, by the way, we're

doing this one episode so we can introduce these

characters so we can have this new show in the

Belisario, the Belisarius Belisario thing. And

Belisario, hello, Airwolf. why would i exactly

like i i used to imagine as a kid like literally

i used to i was sitting on my cousin's swing

set in plimpton massachusetts i used to think

i used to see the damn helicopter in the sky

anyway but i had the bottom of that as one of

my choices i love that love that thing Best helicopter

ever. Anyway, but in 2003, when they launched

NCIS, I was like, ooh, what's this? And I literally

had five seasons on DVD at the time when DVDs

were a thing back then. Oh, my God. Love NCIS.

So good. So good. All right. Anyway, what is

your favorite TV show genre? Do you have different

types of shows for different situations? Vegging

out. Date night, family night, group watch, et

cetera. Attitude and feelings have a big part

on what is in run, but sci -fi and more sci -fi

experimental. So you're dealing with Twilight

Zone, X -Files, Warehouse 13, Eureka, all those

kind of shows that fringe. Those are the ones

that are comfort watches for me because they're,

they're talking about cool technology ideas,

how to solve them when they go awry. It was a

good balance of those. And those are the ones

I like to sit down and rewatch. So that's my

comfort zone is that sci -fi genre. Absolutely.

Do you have a, my parents wouldn't let me watch

that TV show story. Absolutely not. I was a kid

from Las Vegas, and my parents, that was nothing

that they had to worry about. I wasn't a bad

kid. I wasn't torturing squirrels in the backyard.

So they weren't really concerned with what I

watched. Now, don't take me wrong. There's other

people I knew that did have to deal with that.

Keith grew up in a Christian household that was

a little more stern of what he could and couldn't

watch. I mean, he couldn't play D &D. But sorry,

Keith. I tell people that, you know, we talk

about it on indie podcast all the time, but I

didn't have that restriction because I didn't,

you know, I didn't propose something that I was

bad doing that, or I got my homework done all

the time. So it wasn't a big deal. Yep. Yep.

Absolutely. Absolutely. All right, folks, we

are going to be now entering the TV fantasy fun

land. If you could own any house or pad in a

TV show, whose house would it be? From Eureka,

the sentient house in that show. Gotcha. Because

that is, that was, the house did everything.

It was an old bunker. Yeah, Colin Ferguson's

character, Sheriff Jack Carter, in the show,

they keep him in town. They gift him this sentient

house as the models of an AI. And I always thought

that was just fantastic. It took care of all

my stuff. It took care of all my calendars and

meals. It was just a really cool looking house.

And it was always funny because it was actually

supposedly a female voice, but done by one of

the characters on the cast, and they made fun

of him. Like, is that your voice trying to talk

in a female tone? And he's like, no. No, no,

it's not. Yeah, exactly. It was well done. I

thought it was really cool. But yeah, that's

the house. If I could have a pad, I'd love to

have that pad. Whose wardrobe would you steal?

Oh, wow. I would do from DSpace9 Commander Worf.

I like the Klingon look. I like the Klingon flair.

Take that back. I've seen TV shows, but yeah,

Cardassian look always had a new flair for it,

too. But no, I did like the Klingon outfits he

would wear more traditionally off his... Starfleet

uniform. I thought those were pretty cool looking,

especially when he came back in Picard and he

was in this like Raider outfit. It was like this

Klingon Raider outfit was really cool looking.

So I liked his, I liked his wardrobe. Thumbs

up for Worf. Very cool. Very cool. Yeah. You

keep mentioning flair and all I can think of

is office space. You got to wear all the flair.

Every time about movies, you know, that's going

to be on my list. Oh, yeah. No, I know. I know.

I know. It's actually funny. I'm working on something

for this exact format for that exact thing in

the future. Yeah, we were fortunate like that.

100 shows of all time in the podcast. That movie

didn't make the list. It was up there. That's

a whole different story. That's a different.

That's a horse of a completely different color.

If you could live in any TV -verse, which one

would you choose? I would like to live and actually

work in the Babylon 5 universe. The idea of the

culmination of everything on a station for like

this intergalactic piece intrigued me. I mean,

again, they told a great story there. I would

not mind being in that universe to being a part

of that station. Garibaldi, again, I would be

in security. He was fantastic in that show. And

I love him because also the town I'd like to

retire to is Garibaldi, Oregon, which is over

on the coast by Tillamook. I always laugh because

I drive by it and I always think of him from

Babylon 5. So I'd like to be in that universe.

That universe would be kind of cool to be living

in. Nice, nice. Who would be your top three TV

characters you'd want to join you to be a friend

squad? A friend squad. Oh. Alan Alden's Benjamin

Hawkeye Pierce. Because just he's the ladies

man. And I knew if something happened, he would

know how to take care of it. I would do also.

Henry Deacon, played by Joel Morton from Eureka,

would be a pretty good character to bring in.

And I would probably bring in... Oh, Lord. Who

would I make as my third? Can we do animated

characters? Yeah, yeah, that's fine. I would

probably bring in... Alison Brie. who played

Diane Nugent, I believe, from BoJack Horseman

because she's like a realist and she was more

straightforward. She'd be someone to really poke

fun at and to have in the team because she would

just point out the most obvious thing. There

you go, there you go. Yeah, that's essentially

what the old barbershop quartet question is and

the other origins things. When I had Jennifer

Kaufman, the first guest, she's the one that

helped me craft this, the format for the origins

and television watching, top three. TV characters

in a friend squad. We kind of did the whole,

oh, who's your Ross? Who's your Rachel? Who's

your blah, blah, blah. So friends, yada, yada,

yada. So that's what we did there. Final question

here in the TV fantasy fun land. If you could

date any TV character, which one would it be?

Oh, wow. All right. I would have to go back to

Eureka. Dr. Alison Blake played, was it C .L.

Richardson? C .L. Richardson. She just was a

phenomenal character. I mean, she just was a

powerful woman, yet she had this very elegant

side to her. And she actually understood that,

you know, there was boundaries to be made, but

there was boundaries to be broken. So, you know,

you could really skate the world with her and

it would be great. If I had to date somebody,

definitely be her. Very cool. Very cool. There

you go. There you go. All right, folks, we are

now exiting the TV fantasy fun land. Two questions

left. Is there a storyline or a subject or something

you're dying to see in more? Let me do that again.

Edit point. Is there a storyline or a subject

or something you're dying to see more of on TV?

Absolutely. Another TV show we didn't talk about

that was great was, all of a sudden I'm blanking,

Men in the High Castle. Okay. Alternative history

series, when done right, are amazing. The For

All Mankind does a great job of it. Man in the

High Castle was amazing because, you know, here

is a top alternative to the United States. Now,

the real U .S. is not gone. It's just in a parallel

universe. You're seeing the aftereffects of a

decision being made where it changes everything.

There's a book series, which I really think would

be great as a TV, 1623, which is about the 60

-year war. Or a coal mine town in America, and

like 90 miles around it, is teleported into Germany.

And it's dropped in the middle of Germany right

at the start of the 30 -year war. And they have

to deal with that. They're stuck in the past.

They don't know how they got there. And you realize

it's a cosmic joke by some alien who ended up

getting executed for doing this. They basically

go, okay, we need to dumb ourselves down and

turn us back into steam power because we can

do that because we can't do everything. But all

their coal on their coal plant, because they're

all a bunch of coal miners, is still operational.

So they fire this coal plant up and they repair

power lines and they get all, they start defending

once they know where they're at, all the towns

around them who are getting slaughtered by barbarians.

Here comes all these, you know. highwood redneck

pickup trucks and shotguns going killing all

these you know soldiers on horseback but they

have all these books of history and they're very

important because everyone wants that history

because even though they're there now and the

history is going to change most recent events

will not it's not going to change anything so

a lot of people like the vaticans trying to get

there to get books about who the next pope is

what they're going to do stuff like that it's

storylines like that i'd like to see more of

I'd like to see these different aspects of if

we made a major change in history, this would

happen. And I do like future, like Expanse, another

TV show we haven't talked about, but well built.

Because it tells a storyline that's realism.

You can get into it. It's realistic. So I'd like

to see the history, though. I like alternative

history. I love podcasts about it. I'd like to

see more on TV shows that dealt with it. Yeah,

very cool. Very cool. All right, folks. Final

question. What is the one piece of advice you

would give the TV watching fandom in general?

Do not be afraid to give the time, the money,

and the effort to writers that want to get something

done. And I mean that more into look at someone

of YouTube. Animation is a big part of that.

And I will give shout out to Vivian Lana with

Has Been Hotel and Hell of a Boss, who pushed

really hard on the concept she believed in, she

created to get HBO to buy her or Prime to buy

her IPs. and pull them over and get full productions.

But she put her time and money into creations

that were hers, and they were good. They were

stories. They were universes that you realize

the fans out there loved. And Comic -Cons represent

a lot of those fans of these small IPs. Look

for the fan base to tell you what might be a

good investment to get one or two episodes out

of and grow from there to give us a new something

-verse to believe in. It's there. You just got

to open your eyes and not let the big buck or

big people throw stuff at that just don't have

any sense. They do it for no reason. And I'm

not going to, again, make fun of it, but Lost,

stuff like Lost, don't. Yeah, exactly. Very cool,

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