Muppets Most Wanted Review

Today on MYR Weekly we'll be discussing which

Pixar film is receiving the rare sequel treatment,

Gem and the Holograms, The Little Mermaid, more

Peter Pan casting, and a possible Jungle Book

war. All that and more coming up on MYR Weekly.

episode joining me as they have the last two

weeks are Nathan hello hello and Matt hello hello

and we are all ready to give you a bunch of movie

news and fun and we're actually even gonna go

back to the original format this week and give

you a solo main attraction and that will be Muppets

Most Wanted this week but before we get that

to that we're going to have to take a quick look

at the box office from this last weekend to see

what exactly happened out there in movie land

and we have a new number one and a new both the

two of them some movies that opened are taking

the first and the second spot so 300 rise of

an empire falls mr. p riding sherman falls need

for speed falls and we have a couple of new ones

at the top first spot will go to divergent which

I was curious how well that would do and it did

well. Taking the number one spot at 54 million

dollars, which is over half of its budget in

the first week. So apparently there is a young

adult audience that was willing and wanting to

see Divergent, which is good since they already

have a whole set of these movies planned. Taking

the number two spot would be Muppets Most Wanted,

which brought in 17 million on a 50 million budget.

And then, rounding up the top five, we have Mr.

Peabody and Sherman, just under 12 million. God's

Not Dead? I must have missed what that was even

about. I mean, I guess you can kinda... It has

something to do with Duck's Dynasty, that's all

I know. My mom's like, oh, it's a good movie.

Well, that just, just under, or just over 9 million.

For that movie that kind of flew under the radar

I guess and then rotten the top five there would

round up with 300 rise of an empire brand in

another 8 million which means it's only about

Six and a half million away from it's a hundred

and ten million dollar budget So any surprise

from you guys just looking at that top five.

Did we expect divergent? To take that much of

a commanding lead or are we a little shocked

at how much that did? I'm a little surprised.

I thought Muppets would do a better showing.

I didn't think it was going to win necessarily,

but I thought it would be closer to Divergent.

Yeah, I am happy that Muppets was in the top

two. That makes me happy. I mean, Muppets as

a franchise, it's not like a blockbuster franchise

where it's going to... It doesn't quite have

the effect that a straight -up animated movie

does. I don't know if it's... I don't know what

the... formula or the secret behind that is that

it doesn't quite do an act in the theaters like

animated movies seem to do, but that's why I

was at least happy that it came in top two. Muppet

movies don't usually have huge budgets, so it

still should be a financial success once all

is said and done. Hopefully we'll get another

one out of it. Yeah. I was a little surprised

that this movie I'd never even heard of, God's

Not Dead, made it into the top five. That usually

doesn't seem to happen, but maybe there is a

buzz out there like you were saying, Nate. Especially

when it wasn't in that many theaters to do that

much money. If these numbers are right, it was

only in about 800 theaters compared to a lot

of mainstream opening weekends. You're in usually

like two, three thousand theaters. So that's

interesting. I will mention that a big drop there

for a need for speed Just under 8 million, which

means it is still not halfway to its budget so

Might have the makings of another addition to

the flop list for 2014 which Hopefully we won't

get a need for speed too. Yes, no more of those

Even though I didn't see it, so I guess I shouldn't

say anything about it But it seems like we have

a little bit of a switch in the trend, because

for all of January and February, we seem to be

talking about movie after movie after movie that

was just flopping, that was not even coming close

to its budget. And it seems like we have a little

bit of a shift now with a lot of these films.

Divergent's going to be a success financially.

Muppets probably. 300 Rides of an Empire will

end up doing at least over its budget. nonstop,

even, you know, Liam Neeson taken in the air,

that's gonna have a chance of not quite doubling

its budget, but it had a 50 million budget and

it's almost at 80 million already. So even something

like that did good. We know the Lego movie did

good. Yeah, it did. Yeah, Monuments Men has surpassed

its budget, so Ride Along killed its budget.

So it seems like in the last two, three weeks

that we've really seen a shift in and not as

many flops. But Need for Speed might be one of

them to join the ranks of all those films from

that first two months, which most of them I can't

even remember because they were so bad. And I

will mention, since we keep kind of... Going

back to it frozen, which I thought would have

a better week this week It's finally well under

the 1 million mark for the week or for the weekend

and it's Kind of kind of putting around not quite

making it to that 400 million mark. Well, I think

now it's out on DVDs so people can just watch

it at home so I don't know if it's gonna make

that extra two and a half million to bust that

400 million mark, but I guess we'll have to wait

and see. A couple other milestones that we'll

see probably within the next week or two. 300

Rise of an Empire within a week, maybe two weeks

should hit the 100 million mark. The Lego movie,

maybe two more weeks will hit the 250 million

mark. So those two films definitely doing pretty

darn good. And American Hustle is going to squeak

into the 150 million territory as well with its

kind of late Oscar rush. Anything that you guys

saw that you wanted to point out as far as the

box office anything that surprised you or that

you felt in need to mention? That hasn't been

mentioned already Well, let's take it. I know

we usually talk about theater releases later

on but I will say that the big The big films

coming out next week are gonna be sabotage the

raid to and Noah Predictions for next week. Who

will we see at top? Does a virgin stay there?

Or does something like Noah take its spot? And

I'm hope that I don't know You know, I don't

I think Noah's gonna do well even with all of

the overseas problems and it's probably gonna

Bump divergent. That's that'd be my prediction.

I Would not be surprised to see Noah at number

one, Divergent at two, and Muppet's Stand steady

at number three, but we'll have to see. I don't

think Sabotage is going to have the makings of

a box office success, but maybe I'm wrong. We'll

have to see how one of the, a lot of films like

that have been failing this year, so maybe you

can buck the trend. Alright. Moving away from

the box office here and going into some news

and we got a lot of it So we will try to keep

it moving as much as possible, but we have stuff

from all over the place We got comic book stuff.

We have Star Wars stuff. We have animated stuff

Just a lot of stuff say stuff a few more times

in this little segment First up, Fox releases

a release date schedule. That's redundant. But

Fox has stated a few things as far as stuff coming

out in the next few years, including a sequel

to Wolverine, a sequel to The Fantastic Four,

which the first one's not even out yet, and an

untitled Marvel film. We're talking about all

the way up to 2018 that they're talking about

stuff. Confirmation about A Taken Three, Daniel

Radcliffe's film Frankenstein? I don't know how

to respond to that. But anything that you guys

saw that either excites you or worries you about

20th Century Fox's release dates? Didn't they

already do a Frankenstein movie? I just think

there's been a thousand Frankenstein movies.

I'm not quite sure. No, no, no. I Frankenstein?

Yeah, it was one of 2014's flops already. Was

that Fox that did that? I didn't think it was.

Anyway, I like, and by like, I mean, I don't

like that they have a release date for Fantastic

Four 2, and like, glad to have one come out first.

When, I secretly, when studios do that, it makes

a part of me hope that the first one just bombs.

Not that I want Fantastic Four to be bad, but

when they already have greenlit sequels or trilogies

or like, five or six different films. I'm just

like, doing this that far ahead, I hope your

first film does crappy. So you have to redo all

your schedules. I really want this first Fantastic

Four movie to either be just amazing or to bump

so hard that they're like, wow, this isn't worth

keeping the title and give it back to Disney

Marvel who can make a good movie. What about

the idea of a sequel to The Wolverine? Did either

of you guys see that last year? No. No, I did

not. Okay. I will say, I mean, obviously when

we're talking about the X -Men franchise, it's

had its ups and downs, mainly down when it was

talking about the origin of the Wolverine, according

to most people. Oh yeah, Wolverine origins. Yeah.

But the Wolverine that hit theaters last year...

was, to me, a step in the right direction. I

actually enjoyed that film quite a bit, and I

like that they're gonna kinda play that into

the X -Men Days of Future Past storyline in a

way. So I'm not, I mean, Hugh Jackman, I don't

know how many more Wolverine films he can do

before he becomes not able to play that part,

I don't know. But I don't mind the idea of another

Wolverine, I guess. Anything else Nate from you

as far as any of those sequels? No, I don't know.

I just think it's weird when I agree when when

they're planning like Fantastic four two already

and the first one isn't out or whatever I mean,

that's not what's happening, but it's just really

dumb And and also I don't like it when they write

a movie planning on it having sequels Like it's

okay if like it ends on a slight like hint at

what a sequel might be but when it's just like

They plan the movie and there are huge plot points

that don't get resolved like I don't know that

that's really annoying because like they don't

focus on making one good movie They focus on

making the whole universe because that's what

you have to do in films now. It's kind of lame

I agree And speaking of we talked a little bit

about need for speed. How about the next video

game? franchise to receive a movie treatment,

and that would be none other than Splinter Cell.

And the article being published this week is

talking about reports that Doug Liman is in final

negotiations to join the project as a director.

And for those of you that are not aware of him,

he was the director on Mr. and Mrs. Smith, The

Bourne Identity, and a movie coming out this

year, Edge of Tomorrow. I'm not super huge on

any of those films. I mean, I like The Bourne

Identity, but you guys are much more into video

games. Does Splinter Cell the type of game that

can translate onto the big screen with Tom Hardy

as the main actor? Your video game. What's that?

It's your video games, go. Oh, sure, yeah. No,

I don't know. I don't see the point of making

a Splinter Cell movie when you could just make

another spy movie because... like the Splinter

Cell universe isn't like crazy like in depth

or anything it's just like there's a secret agent

and there's terrorism and you know it could be

another born movie if they felt like it the the

Splinter Cell license isn't really going to make

a better movie it's kind of like when um when

they made uh a Tomb Raider movie and it just

turned out to be a bad Indiana Jones movie It's

like, well, that's what Tomb Raider was. It's

a woman, Indiana Jones. I don't know. I like

the last line in this story. Could this be a

rare example of a video game adaptation that

doesn't suck? Which we'll have to talk about

a little bit later. But Matt, any thoughts of

Splinter Cell being a movie? I want to just asterisk

what Nate just said where Indiana Jones as a

woman isn't necessarily a bad idea, just that

one was a bad execution. Because the way you

said that sounded, I don't know, weird. But I

think it's just going to be Mission Impossible

with the NFL names. Which, I mean, I could do

with the Mission Impossible reboot without Tom

Cruise. Because he's getting a little too Tom

Cruise -y for Mission Impossible at this point.

But I think the gameplay of that game is too

slow for a movie. So it's just going to have

the name and probably not be a lot like the...

Or they're going to cut out the hours of walking

you have to do in that game. Like that you just

show a guy sitting around for a half hour waiting

for a guard to pass. Yeah, he's got to learn

all of the walking paths of all the guards and

then he can move. Why don't video game movies

have more tutorials in them? Yeah, or achievements.

Right. That's a good question. Not only do we

have video games being made into movies, but

we're gonna have possibly another TV show made

into a film, and I'm dying to actually have the

chance to watch this TV show in its entirety

so far, but the one we're talking about would

be Game of Thrones, and it's saying that there's

a discussion that's being had about the Game

of Thrones film. Nate, what are your thoughts

on Game of Thrones being turned into a film?

I don't know. I like it. I've seen the first

season of Game of Thrones. It was good. I haven't

had time to watch it all. But I don't know. If

they need a bigger budget to have some dragons

in it, then that's cool. They can do that. Although

I hope a lot of times when they take a show and

they make it into a movie, it just feels like

a long edition of a show. So hopefully it doesn't

feel like that. I'm thinking the thought that,

you know, that it kind of alludes to in the article

is that this would be a way to bring the series

to a close, that you'd have the TV series go

for so long and then this would be like the epic

conclusion would be, you know, put into a film

version. That'd be cool. It'd be like Serenity

for Firefly. I mean, yeah, I mean, I think that's

a better way to do it than just to have a random

two -hour long episode, which you can do just

by having a two -part or whatever. But Matt,

have you watched any Game of Thrones? Yeah, yeah,

I actually watched it as it happened in the first

season, because I have HBO. And I've read a lot

of the books, a couple of the books. I think

I agree with everything you guys said, where

it's like, it'd be a great way to end it. But

the one thing I said when I started watching

the show was, this is how all book should be

done, because a movie just does not have the

time. So doing a book as a 12 -hour TV show is

a way better idea. And so I think that that would

be a step in the wrong direction, unless it was

just the finale of the books. But he's got to

finish writing the books before they can have

the finale, right? So I don't know I'd be interested

to see this I like I said I've only seen one

or two episodes here and I really want to see

more because I really enjoyed those so I got

to catch up in time for this to take I guess

more of an effect for me but I like the idea

especially if they use it as something to close

out the series proper. Moving on some comic book

rumors here Kevin Fage obviously Head of Marvel

is he the head of Marvel or is he just I don't

know what his actual position is I know he's

a big shot in Marvel Discussing the possibility

of bringing some more female superheroes to the

big screen and the one that he was talking about

that He quote says I think that would be very

cool would be Captain Marvel Nate's Captain Marvel

bring in more female superhero presence to the

big screen. What do you think? I don't know.

It's not the Captain Marvel I would have chosen.

Matt, you talk about this. I don't know. Nate

and I both loved Ms. Marvel back when she was

Ms. Marvel. I mean, this Captain Marvel, the

comic books was just the, like, you know, she's

assuming the throne of Captain Marvel, the alien

who's died and gave her powers or whatever. I

would, I'd love to see it. I mean, female superhero

movies or something I'm interested in. All superhero

movies are things I'm interested in, I guess.

Except for Wolverine. I'm kind of done with him.

So yeah, I'm interested. But then we'll have

to see more news before I can say yay or nay

on anything. All right. And I know nothing about

the character, so I will not try to sound like

I do. Interesting story here revolving spider

-man as we're getting closer and closer to the

amazing spider -man 2's release Mark Webb who

is signed on to also be directing a third one

says that that will be his final Involvement

in the spider -man franchise and after three

films. He will be leaving the franchise. I'm

just gonna read a quote from you because I think

it kind of alludes to some interesting stuff

here. And that's coming from Markwell. We're

building out a more complicated Spider -Man universe

with characters that people haven't seen in other

Spider -Man movies. The Sinister Six, Venom,

and more. We'd all love to overlap with other

studios, but it's beyond my pay grade. That's

an interesting last little part there. And obviously,

most comic book fans and geeks out there know

about the different ways that the Marvel universe

has been splintered, whether it be Sony, Fox,

or Disney Marvel, and that it's preventing certain

characters from... overlapping with some of those

other movies. So it's interesting that he brings

it up there about that. I don't have a problem

with him stepping away after three films. I think

most people, after they do a certain franchise

for so long, need to kind of branch out a bit.

So there's nothing wrong with that. But I don't

know. I just thought it was interesting that

he said something about the desire there to overlap

with other studios. I don't really even know

how many more Spider -Man movies I need. They've

kind of been doing that character to death recently

yeah, I mean I I guess I'll wait and see how

this next one plays out, but I'm still skeptical

of this set of spider the amazing spider -man

Whatever it's gonna be however many movies are

going to do because it seems like they didn't

really know what they were doing to begin with

Like I understand they wanted to reboot it But

it was like they rebooted it and put that first

film out and then everything that happened with

Marvel happened and then all the stuff that's

happening with you know DC with the you know

Superman Batman stuff is happening and then all

of a sudden it seemed like they backtracked and

now they're like well wait we were we're supposed

to be creating this mega universe and whatnot

so now we need to instead of you know completely

going with everything we set up in that first

film we need to kind of abandon that we'll call

it the Amazing Spider -Man 2 but it really just

feels like the first film that's trying to set

up this major universe with, like you said, Sinister

Six, Venom, and all these different evil characters.

Definitely the way that this particular... This

is Sony Films. The way that they seem to be doing

the Amazing Spider -Man is kind of just, they're

going where the money is really. I feel like

the first Amazing Spider -Man that came out was

just a checklist of Spider -Man. They did cast

a really good Peter Parker, but everything else

it was just like, let's get all these stars in

here. let's just push this out as fast as possible.

And I believe it was made just so that they could

keep the license, because if they didn't make

a Spider -Man movie, they were gonna lose the

license, so... I don't like it. Right, and it

seems like the vision that they have now necessarily

wasn't there when they were doing the first one,

and it's like they're midstream and they're trying

to shift gears. For me. Yeah, and I don't know,

it just doesn't... it doesn't feel like they're

really, like, in it to make a really good movie.

Of course... Most movie studios probably are

in it to just make a lot of money. So yeah, I

don't know What about you Matt? I really really

liked the amazing spider -man and I'm very hesitant

about this next one like I know that they threw

a lot of stars in there but like the the Aunt

May and Uncle Ben they got were amazing like

Martin Sheen was amazing like And that's like,

I said that a lot when the movie came out. It

was amazing. It's the perfect adjective to describe

this movie. Because I don't think we're ever

going to get a better Spider -Man movie than

that. Really? Yeah. I really don't. I know you

have problems with certain bits of it, but I

think overall it's the closest to a good Spider

-Man movie we're probably ever going to get.

And they started with Gwen Stacy rather than

Mary Jane. From a comic book standpoint, I really

liked that movie. I'd really like that. I'm not

trying to downplay it. I'd really like The Amazing

Spider -Man 2. I think it was superior to The

Spider -Man that came before it in a lot of different

ways. I'm just questioning what the kind of the

train of thought that had, you know, in the minds

that were behind the first one and now with the

direction that they're going and I don't know.

I'm just not quite sure it's all going to be.

It's all gonna kind of jive, but maybe, hopefully

it will. Yeah. So that is Spider -Man news, but

how about some Jungle Book Wars? I didn't know...

We get this more and more nowadays where two

films seem to want to do the exact same topic

and come out very close proximity to each other.

We've talked kind of ad nauseam about the two

Snow White films a couple years ago where we

had Snow White and the Huntsman and we had Mirror

Mirror. We have the dual Steve Jobs biopics.

One that's already been released, one that's

coming soon. We have two Hercules films coming

out this year. So I guess you can add Jungle

Book to the collection where there's going to

be two versions of live -action Jungle Book.

First we have Disney and Jon Favreau's The Jungle

Book, which has Idris Elba. And now we're apparently

going to get one from Warner Brothers. And interestingly,

the director tap for this one is none other than

Andy Serkis. For those of you who don't know

who Andy Serkis is, he is the motion capture

guru that you saw with Gollum in The Lord of

the Rings, that you saw with Caesar in Planet

of the Apes, he's been involved with King Kong,

and apparently he is going to be directing the

Warner Brothers version of Jungle Book. Do we

need two competing Jungle Book live action films?

No. I don't think so, especially when you have

Andy Serkis behind the other one. I love Andy

Serkis. He always has really good projects that

he's working on. The weird part is usually there's

a clear like, this one's going to be better,

and then there's a clear like, this one's probably

not going to be as good. Mirror Mirror seemed

like it was... Not even going to be close to

as good as Snow White and the Huntsman. Not that

either of the two Hercules films were going to

be good, but one of them had The Rock and one

of them had whatever that other guy is. Yeah,

so obviously you go to the one with The Rock

in it, right? Right, right. Yeah, because you

smell what he's cooking. And the people behind

the two Steve Jobs movies, it seemed to be pretty

clear. But this one, I don't know, like, Jon

Favreau is pretty good, and Andy Serkis is pretty

good. Yeah. It's true, I don't know. Disney and

Warner Brothers, there's no clear cut. There's

still just like, there's not enough information

on any of this. No, that's true. I want to go

with Andy Serkis because I like him. I gotta

say though that his knowledge of motion capture

and that type of thing maybe comes in handy in

the live action material like the Jungle Book.

Yeah. Yeah, he's definitely got a leg up. So

I don't know we'll see as more rumors get I mean

obviously we have Idris Elba already being cast

in the Disney one We don't have any casting news

for the Warner Brothers one, so we will wait

and see what happens with that As far as sequels

and remakes for those people that have been waiting

for decades for another Ghostbusters film Maybe

some bad news for you on that front. Whereas

Ivan Reitman is no longer on board to direct

Ghostbusters 3 but Ghostbusters 3 will be coming

next year No way. I never thought that would

actually come out Set to arrive in 2015. Obviously

this has been a roller coaster of up and down

for Ghostbusters fans, like I said, for a long

time. Bill Murray was very much against it for

a long time. Then he said he would be in it only

if he was killed off immediately. And then obviously

with... He's spoiling the movie before it even

comes out. Come on. Yes. And then Harold Ramis,

obviously his passing shifted gears. And I think

that's what drove Ivan Reivend to say he just

didn't feel comfortable doing it anymore. So,

but apparently it is still gonna be coming out.

I think the rumors are that it's gonna be a younger

Ghostbusters squad I don't know if they're gonna

be getting trained by some of the originals or

even if the originals are gonna be in it at all

As far as the ones that are still living so we'll

have to wait and see but Ivan Reitman no longer

directing that one I feel like that's gonna be

a very like hacked up like mess of a movie Yeah,

I don't think people have been waiting so long

to see what could happen here, but But apparently

he still had a lot to do. Ivan Raymond still

had some impact and some input on what's been

going on so far, as far as I think story and

production goes. So maybe there's a sliver of

hope there. Matt, do you think there needs to

be another Ghostbusters? No, totally not. But

if they kill off Bill Murray, I want him to come

back as a ghost. If that, then this, for sure.

Yes. That would be incredible. Moving on to something

I didn't ever think would happen, but apparently

it's that time where all of our animated classics

get turned into live -action films. We're gonna

have to, like, go down a list eventually and

have just an episode where we talk about this.

I mean, we're getting Maleficent, Cinderella

is in the works, we've talked about Jungle Book,

we've talked about Peter Pan. Joining the group

in the live -action adaptation will be none other

than the Little Mermaid. directed by Sophia Coppola

and This has come out here in the last week.

Not only that she's behind it that she had a

certain person kind of pegged to play I believe

it will be the part of Ariel or the Little Mermaid

and that would be Emma Watson from God Harry

Potter fame among other things uh... a little

more than that i can't even imagine that like

in my head it just seems so weird well there's

a lot of animated films that you i mean i thought

i don't necessarily need any of them to be live

action i mean i'm excited about maleficent and

i think that's a cool thing where you kind of

focus on the villain and kind of do their story

it's all good and and what not but i can think

of a lot of animated films that i would consider

at least consider the possibility of being a

success live action wise and little mermaid would

not be one of them It was a share and what was

the she in a mermaid live -action film? Did you

say share? Yeah, like like the the artist like

it's not shared. What was it? She was enough.

She played a mermaid. I swear to god. Oh, no,

no, no. She was in Christina Aguilera movie called

Bump it. I don't know. That is not what I was

thinking about People are probably screaming

at their computers because I don't know the film

that Cher was in. We're all by computers. We

have IMDb. I'm looking up Photoshopped pictures

of Evan Watson as Little Mermaid. This is a completely

different turn. Oh my gosh. That made it so clear

that I wanted to see if someone else could see

it. Mermaid yes share was in a movie called mermaids

in 1990 all I can remember is that that movie

was terrible and they like splash only without

Good actors. I don't know I can little mermaid

really be turned into a live -action film Yeah,

I I don't see it I don't know we'll have to see

it could be another frozen wouldn't like when

frozen came out when I saw the teaser trailer

I was like ah whatever and then it was amazing

I don't know. I don't know how I feel about Little

Mermaid I like I said I could think of a lot

of other films that I would rather see turned

into live -action before that Speaking of sequels

and remakes that we have been another news here,

and that's all about Jurassic World Apparently

the original cast will not be returning for the

next installment of the Jurassic Park franchise

Darn, no Jeff Goldblum. Yeah, there was a lot

of talk about Jeff Goldblum and Who played a

grant Samuel? There's a lot of talk about them

apparently not happening. We do know that Vy

Wong will be returning as the doctor though.

I mean, so he is an original cast member just

not a main character And we also do know that

Vincent D 'Onofrio Will be on there as well as

Nick Robinson and Ty Simpkins and it's opening

in just over a year can How do you guys feel,

first of all, about the idea of Jurassic Park

having yet another sequel and do they need to

have some connection to the other ones or can

it be its own thing altogether? Well, me personally,

Jurassic Park 3, I think, was the first ever

movie I saw in theaters and had the thought,

wow, I guess they can make a bad movie. Because

growing up, I just assumed all movies were good

because so much time and budget and everything

went into them. You know, I was like, I don't

know, 10 when Dresspark 3 came out, I think.

Wow. Really? Wasn't it like 15 years ago? Maybe

more? 1994, somewhere in there. The first one.

Oh, no, but the third one was like, yeah, late

90s. I don't know. 2001. Okay, so I was, you

know, 12. So yeah, I didn't have... I mean, I

don't really think we need another one. Definitely

not. I'd love to see Jeff Goldblum do a similar

character to what he did in the Wes Anderson

film. The Life Aquatic. Have him have a cameo

similar to that. No, I'm not dealing with dinosaurs

anymore. Like, I mean, I don't like to do this

thing when I can anymore, but just give me a

cameo and that'll make that movie so much better

for me. Yeah. Yeah. I'd like to see at least

something connecting it to the original ones,

but I don't see it. Like, they don't necessarily

need the whole cast there or anything like that.

But yeah, like you said, like a cameo or something,

so they at least reference that those people

exist would be good in my books. I don't know.

Yeah, some of the Jurassic Park films were good,

some were bad, but the first one was just so

good. And I just can't wait to see what they

could do, even to a higher degree visually, from

an effects standpoint. Should look amazing, at

least. Get Andy Serkis to mope the dinosaurs.

Andy Serkis can do everything. When we talk about

sequels and when we start talking about animated

films we get a lot of Dreamworks and we get a

lot of a few other studios What we don't usually

get a lot of and I was just talking to actually

to some people that work about this recently

We don't get a lot of Pixar sequels, and we don't

get a lot of good Disney sequels We'll have to

hold our breath because I know there's been a

lot of talk about a Frozen sequel, and if there

was a Frozen sequel, this is completely off -topic

and off -script, but if there was a Frozen sequel,

could it be the first ever, like, legit, both

box office and critically acclaimed, decent Disney

sequel? I don't know, man. I think a Frozen sequel

would be a terrible idea. Disney has never had

a good sequel. My girlfriend is of the opinion

that every Aladdin single is worth watching I'm

not saying there's not some that are fun to watch

if you're really fans of that like that Franchise

or that story and those characters But none of

them have been like obviously a lot of more direct

to video type sequels But but none of them have

had like the overwhelming like this is a great

film I mean you can find some stuff to like on

some of the Lion King and some of the Aladdin

sequels, but there hasn't been like just that

definitive like this is a good disney sequel

like you have with like a toy story 2 or a toy

story 3 or something like that and dreamworks

you know just beats their franchises to death

over and over and over again so i mean i guess

there's probably some good sequels in there and

some that are really awful But the new story

coming out this week was about the potential

for some Pixar sequels, which we usually don't

get a lot of. Obviously we've had the Toy Story

franchise, but Ratatouille never received any

type of sequel. Wall -E didn't. Up didn't. I

don't think there's been any talk about Brave

having one. I hope they do. All intents and purposes

usually just consider Pixar just to be a kind

of a one -and -done which is I think One reason

why they've been so good because they put all

their time and effort into making that one so

good And then they kind of go on to the next

thing Well if there was ever a Pixar film that

people did Seemingly want a sequel to they are

getting their wish because Disney Pixar has confirmed

that there will be the Incredibles 2 Sweet Nate

you're a fan of the first one. Yeah. Yeah, definitely

And you think this is a, if they were to pick

one of their films to do a sequel in, is this

the one? Yeah, I mean it has the most potential

to have an interesting world because of all of

the different superpowers and stuff. And they

have a completely new family dynamic than the

first one, because it ended on such a different

um just like a regular family with powers now

they can do a full they can basically do a really

good fantastic four movie don't forget the baby

and a baby yeah fantastic five movie and uh on

the other end of the spectrum they also confirm

that there's going to be a cars three um anyway

but i thought it was funny because they originally

announced that on on twitter i don't know if

you guys saw that it was something like we're

a twitter genius I actually got this from a web

forum that I'm not going to mention. Someone

posted it on Twitter. Shut up, man. I don't even

know if I was on Twitter at the time. You know,

like, if I had my Twitter. This was like a...

Well, I probably did, because I think this was

last week. But it said something like, Incredibles

and Cars sequel. And it was like, oh no, don't

do it. Don't put them together. Like, how are

you... But, uh... Yeah, I don't know. Like...

I just like that every headline is Incredibles

2 and then there's always like a little sub -headline

or a little note at the bottom of the article

and Cars 3 also. Yeah, everyone expects Cars

3. You can expect that forever. Cars 3 makes

Pixar like 80 % of its money because of all the

merchandising that it has. Oh, I bet. You're

talking about Twitter. I gotta say anybody that's

listening that likes us or likes hearing nonsense

or likes just general I guess you won't really

hear us But you should follow if you don't follow

us on Twitter do it and then make sure you're

by your Twitter on Fridays Because we watch them

generally at the same time. We could put up warnings

saying, you're going to start live tweeting this

movie in 10 minutes. Get ready. Yeah, we'll do

that. Because we had some complete nonsense tweeting

last Friday. And hopefully, people enjoyed it.

I don't think anyone was paying attention to

us, honestly. Now they will. And they can see

all kinds of fun hashtags and whatnot. So anyways,

Incredibles 2 coming out. I'm all about it. Let's

see it. Let's do it. Let's see if Pixar can pull

off a successful sequel like they did. Obviously,

probably not to the level of Toy Story, but it

doesn't have to be that great to be still watchable.

If it's not about taking some animated films

and turning them into live action, it's about

taking some 80s cartoon series and making them

into movies. We're talking about an 80s dream

come true, so the headline reads. Jim and the

holograms live -action movie is coming GI Joe

retaliation director John Chu announces the project

on YouTube this past week Yeah, it's really weird

if you did you watch that video where he's like,

this is how we're gonna make the movie posts

on tumblr be in our movie Show us that you can

sing and dance and act and stuff. You can be

Jim. It's really weird or you can be the Misfits

Yeah, to me this makes sense though it's capitalizing

on a bunch of different stuff obviously you have

you know the whole retro thing where you're getting

the the adults that grew up with this stuff hopefully

gonna want to watch it and take their kids to

it but it's also you know this is seemingly um

you know a time in Pop culture where you know,

it's all about singing and dancing and stuff

like that and pitch perfect was successful So

this seems to make sense like they're doing it

at the right time if they were ever going to

do it I guess And I know there's a lot of people

excited about it. So we'll have to see are they

gonna do all of these like, you know kind of

auditions of new unknown people will they have

any actual Well known actors or singers in there.

I know that there's been a lot of people thrown

about there that people were saying would make

a perfect uh oh gosh what's the bad person's

name um misfit lady jim and oh god people are

hating me everywhere um i don't hate you the

the main bad character if you want to call her

bad character i think i've heard like kesha's

name thrown out there i think oh god of course

you know all these kind of Whatever you want

to call them there. I'm not gonna call them singers,

but uh those people I Don't know. It's like it's

like Pizzazz Pizzazz you're right. Is that the

bad girl? Yeah, okay, but listen. I just hope

that they They stick with like the either a retro

80s like aesthetic, but it should look like the

future as The 80s thought the future would look

like Like a clean retro future. That's the aesthetic

that I want for the movie. If they make it like

a modern day like, this is happening now and

it's just a weird 80s pop star out of place,

then I would be really upset with the movie.

It should have special effects up the butt. It

should have singing goodness up the... Well,

it's true, but I'm just saying... I hope that

they don't get away from the style of Jim because

I always like, I don't know. Jim's like so neon

and cheesy and fun. That's true. Matt, any thoughts

of a Jim film? I wasn't really big into the whole

Jim show. I've seen it a few times. It's not

bad. Yeah, I think I agree with Nate's retro

80s future. I want that in any movie. Everything

everything has to be neon lights Yeah We were

talking a little bit before about films that

were battling each other and I guess these Although

at one point were rumored to be coming out in

the same year That's not gonna happen, but there

is still talks going on about that second Steve

Jobs film the one that most people were more

excited about because of the involvement with

a sorkin as the guy who wrote the script. People

just assumed that would be better since Aaron

Sorkin was involved with it. Apparently, David

Fincher is still interested in the project and

is still being considered for the director, but

he released a statement or an article came out

this last week where he said he will only direct

the Steve Jobs biopic if Christian Bale is in

the lead as Steve Jobs. So the first one we had

Ashton Kutcher play Steve Jobs and now he wants

Christian Bale. So is it weirder that we had

two Steve Jobs films being produced simultaneously

or that Ashton Kutcher and Christian Bale are

the two choices? Yeah, all of that's weird. Very

weird. I don't know. I don't have no interest

in seeing a Steve Jobs movie really. I will say

I saw the first one with Ashton Kutcher. Ashton

Kutcher was better than I thought he would be

in the role. And it is an interesting story.

Like Steve Jobs, the story of Steve Jobs is an

interesting story. And his relationship with

some of the other kind of famous individuals

as far as, you know, that... Their businesses

went and how he treated them or didn't treat

them or how things played out. It is somewhat

interesting I'm kind of interested to see what

Sorkin does or what he did with the script But

I don't know Christian Bale and Ashton Kutcher

just seemed like weird choices. They don't come

to mind when you think Steve Jobs But I don't

really come to mind for me for most roles I guess

they both typecast themselves. Like, I want Ashton

Kutcher to be the big, dopey guy that he was

on that 70s show for forever. And then you want

Christian Bale to be Batman? No. No. And for

people that are huge Peter Pan fans, we talked

about a lot of different rumors. We've talked

about Hugh Jackman way back in the day being

cast for that. We talked last week about Rooney

Mara being in discussions for Tiger Lively. Apparently

now there's a name also being thrown about for

Peter Pan, which is Levi or Levy Miller. Fairly

unknown young kid. He was in an episode of Terra

Nova, the TV series. He apparently is being considered

for Peter Pan. So if you're a huge Peter Pan

fan, I guess look up Levy Miller and see who

might be your next Peter Pan I don't really have

much to say because I don't Really haven't seen

him in anything and he's just a young kid. So

I'm sure it's fine Yeah, I mean it's it's hard

to comment on something like that Yeah, so let's

get into trailer talk something that we have

seen stuff that we can actually sink our teeth

into not just rumors but stuff with We've seen

now in little bits and pieces some trailers released

this last week, including Maze Runner, which

I talked about as something that I was somewhat

intrigued in when Dan and I were doing our list

of 2014 films we were looking forward to. A brief

first look at the 3D world of Peanuts. A look

at Nymphomaniac Part 2. The first one's already

been released this year, but Part 2 is coming

up soon. Another look at Godzilla, our first

look at The Giver, which was another one I talked

about when we were talking about 2014 films.

Earth to Echo, another one we brought up then.

Step Up All In, one we did not bring up when

we were talking about 2014 films we were looking

forward to. Brick Mansion, starring Paul Walker,

Raid 2, Filth, and another look at some more

stuff about The Amazing Spider -Man 2. Who wants

to start on anything they saw that kind of caught

their eye there? I want to talk about peanuts.

No, go out peanuts. You talk about peanuts. Yeah.

Dude, they are nailing the style in 3D. They're

taking 3D models and making them look like the

classic cartoons. It's really well done. I think

that's, that's too, it's something that they

kind of took a chance on because obviously peanuts

have been around for a long time. And if that

was just when you entered the podcast, you're

not going to have a clue what I'm talking about.

Um, peanuts have been around for a long time,

but the franchise has been around for a long

time and they've always had the exact same look.

So it's kind of taking a chance here and changing

things and updating it. But like you said, uh,

it seems like they've nailed it. It like they

could have had a big old round -headed Charlie

Brown and have him just you know, like turn around

and be all weird -looking but Like his his movements

are jerky like the the actual show was and it

just looks great I'm excited for just Justin

just for the animation in that one and as someone

who just recently with my work it behind the

voice actors I I I actually gathered images from

all 50 plus Peanuts TV specials. Some of them

are a little peanuted out right now. But I don't

know, it looks interesting. It looks like it

could be an interesting and unique addition to

the franchise and maybe kind of give it some

new life. Matt, Peanuts fan or not? I love the

comic strip, like a lot of the movie specials

things. Not enthused about this. I don't know.

Really? It did not look like something that I

would want at all. I can see both sides of it.

I'm going to stay on the fence and see. I think

if they're going to go different, maybe they

nailed it as far as the style goes. But we'll

see here. That pretty much describes me about

everything though. I'll stay on the fence until

it's out. Yeah. What else Nate that you had that

you wanted to bring up? I don't know. I feel

like I should be excited for step up all in since

I'm a huge fan of like breaking but I don't know

Dance movies should be fun, but that's rarely

the case But like I'm a little set for some reason

I couldn't get the trailers for a few of them

loadups Step up was one of them and that was

what I wanted to see Oh, I kind of want to talk

about Amazing Spider -Man 2. Go for it. The transformation

for Electro, they showed him falling into a tank

of electric eels. That looks hilarious. I like

the classic, like, this doesn't even make sense,

but we'll make it work with... Comic science.

Yeah, comic science is a great idea. I love that,

although I just like everything else. I like

how they even like are showing the actors because

in that clip a lot of the actors are kind of

explaining their characters or what's happening

and when they get to that part like, who is it,

Jamie Foxx? Yeah, like even he doesn't have a

clue what's happening. He's like They're doing

some stuff with some gene splicing or some DNA

stuff and there was like an electricity and Like

he can't even explain it himself. That's okay,

though But yeah, that's an interesting interesting

way to take that I guess I want to say that For

the couple movies that I mentioned that were

ones that I was kind of intrigued on but it was

it was those that Dan and I were making this

list of 2014 films. We were looking forward to

and a lot of it You know there is there was trailers

for some films, but a lot of it was based just

simply on plots or or Directors or you know the

premise or some stuff like that So we hadn't

seen anything on a few of them and Maze Runner

The Giver and Earth to Echo are three of those

that we hadn't seen anything yet on but we were

all kind of in Both of us were intrigued on him

him more than me on some and me more than him

on some But this is a first look at some of these

films. I thought Maze Runner, I'm not sure. I

still think it's an interesting premise, but

it seemingly seems like it's going to fall into

that same... Genre that we've been getting a

lot of films where it might appeal to that young

adult audience, but I'm not sure how good it

will be the premise there obviously is that they're

all kind of trapped in this maze and and every

I don't know if it's every day or every week

or every month a new boy gets added to the group

and this trailer shows the first time a girl's

been introduced and Obviously trying to get out

of this maze. I was literally thinking like halfway

through the trailer like Jesus is a sausage festival

And then here's a girl and all I all I could

think was is oh my god. She's gonna get raped.

Yeah Yeah But then I remembered it wasn't an

episode of law and order. So maybe that won't

happen And earth to echo this is a completely

different look than what we kind of got We got

a teaser a long time ago and it kind of gave

us both the idea of the Super 8, which came out

a couple years ago. I don't know if either of

you guys saw that film, but that was interesting.

And A Little E .T. I don't know, this trailer

was completely different to me, and I'm actually

more excited about Earth to Echo now than I was

even to begin with. I think it's a cool film.

You've got a bunch of kids who basically come

into contact with this alien robotic type of

figure who can manipulate metal slash machines

it seems like Who obviously the kids form a bond

with and then you know the big bad adults and

government are gonna try to come Take control

of it or something. I don't know. I thought that

Trailer looks somewhat interesting. I don't know

what you guys thought about that one You summed

it up like You didn't say it looked like a robot

owl. I don't think which is what it looks like

to me. That's true Other than that. Yeah, it's

like a robot owl with magneto movie powers Could

be, could be interesting. Um, and The Giver,

obviously based on the famous book The Giver,

um, I never read that book, so I guess I don't

know exactly what to expect from that, but I

don't know, it looks interesting, I guess. Like,

uh, I've seen The Giver, and the cover of The

Giver, if you haven't seen it, which I doubt

anyone here hasn't seen it, is just like some

old dude's face. Right. And it usually has like

the medal for whatever awards it's won. Like

when I was a little kid, I've read a lot of fantasy

So I just assumed it was a novel about like druids

because I think there's might be a trees in the

background something It's like yeah, he's just

a druid And so this is my first experience to

it Was the trailer and I don't know just looks

like another divergent Hunger Games, etc. So

Yeah, I do think though You know you mentioned

that title or I'm sorry the cover and that that

kind of that classic look for it which to me

when I hear about the person that they cast in

that, Jeff Bridges, and he can almost look identical

to that cover. Yeah. So I find that interesting.

Nate, did you ever read The Giver? I have not.

Me neither. I need to read more. I am not cultured

at all. Hey, my sister has a copy of it and my

girlfriend read it last year and she she was

listening like she wasn't watching But she heard

just the trailer talking and she's like that

sounds like the giver and I'm like that's what

it is So at least they got it well enough in

that respect, huh? Yeah, anything else trailer

wise that you guys wanted to bring up before

we go to our main attraction? Unfortunately Godzilla

looks pretty dull to me. It looks like a dull

version of Pacific Rim I don't know. I'm not

feeling that one at all. There is a lot of correlations

that people are trying to draw to Pacific Rim

in that film. It's a giant monster movie. I don't

know. It's really easy to make correlations between

the two. I wanted to mention Brick Mansions because

it's got that Paul Walker who's dead. It's always

weird whenever a movie comes out of a guy who's

died. It usually translates into a little bit

better success at the box office. Oh yeah? Yep.

And then Raid 2, I didn't know there was a Raid

1. But the trailer for Raid 2, in fact, I even

searched for Raid. You got bug spray. Yeah. I

think Amazon was all like, it had a really weird

subtitle and I was like, that might be it. But

the trailer was like, just quotes, like a bunch

of quotes and very, very slow. And then all of

a sudden it was just like a minute and a half

of people punching each other in the face. Gratuitous

violence, like, this dude's dying and that dude's

dying. You were like, I'm all for it. Yeah. Mixed

feelings. I mean, I don't want to see Punchfest

2 without seeing Punchfest 1, though. Fair enough.

Alright, so that does it for our trailer talk

and all these links to the trailers will be on

the webpage and we'll try to make sure that they're

all working by the time we put that up there.

And it is time to transition into our main attraction

and we'll be right back to talk about that. was

never quite as good. That's right, we are ready

for our main attraction this week. We are going

to be talking about Muppets Mosawana, which is

in theaters now. But before we get that to the

Muppets in general, which we will talk about

the first one as well, I want to quickly talk

about what we started talking about last week

when we all had seen the original Oldboy. So

we'll take a drastic turn into a completely different

style film, and then we'll come back and clean

it up and cleanse ourselves with Muppet talk.

But Dan Nate or sorry Dan Nate Matt and I were

all able to watch the remake Reboot whatever

you want to call it the modern version of old

boy this past week so that we could compare and

contrast it to the original old boy and Who wants

to start with our reactions towards? The old

boy that was in theaters for about a day. Oh

my reactions That's the face I had the whole

time I Don't know um The only I don't know it

was definitely not as good a movie as the first

one I don't know I just felt there was less of

a movie and it was unnecessary to make a Remake

to that movie since it was only what 10 years

old or 12 years old yeah, I don't know I feel

like we could have waited a long time for that

remake my thought is Obviously I didn't see the

entire original old boy. I kind of saw the last

what? third of it, but it seemed like just from

that what I gained from that was that when they

had their violence and when they had their action

sequences It all served a purpose and it did

have a style to it but it kind of had us like

I said a style with a purpose whereas this one

that just seemed like I think Matt said that

when we were watching just gratuitous violence

for the sake of gratuitous violence Yeah, they

had a lot of that and then I don't know I also

felt like The the Remaking of old boy. They just

remade it verbatim and didn't really think about

what they were doing when they made it a lot

of the weird cultural things they just left in

like the the dumplings. I don't know, that just

didn't make much sense. The giant fight with

a hammer, it didn't make any sense. Especially

when they acknowledged that everyone had guns

already, like no one even tried to shoot them

in that scene. It was just really weird. Think

they set up the character much differently and

we kind of talked about this while we were watching

it But the actual main character is a completely

different character in the two films In the first

film it's this guy who gets drunk and he's really

annoying And it's just like, you know, he's not

a terrible person But he gets drunk and he's

not reliable and then this other one's like there's

this dick and everything he does is ruin people's

lives and then like you just don't feel for the

the American guy at all like I didn't feel there

was one second when I was like oh and then like

immediately it was gone yeah you had a much more

connection with the original character and he

seemed a lot more human and you could kind of

have a little bit of understanding and compassion

for him like you you're hoping things would somehow

you know not be as bad whereas the other one

is like I don't I haven't like But yeah, I think

you guys were talking about there was maybe one

scene at the most where you actually were like,

oh, I feel bad for this character. Otherwise,

you're just like, no, he's kind of a dick. I

felt more sorry for the the rats that he had.

He had a well, a mouse. He had a pet mouse for

like a day and then they just killed it. I don't

know. That was that was the most sad I was at

the movie. It was just like the mouse didn't

deserve any of that. And by setting him up as

this character that really just You had no feel

for compassion or empathy for Like by them setting

him up like that to me the ending doesn't make

sense that they use And I'm not trying to spoil

anything, but I just think he completely acts

out of character for about the last Oh, yeah

15 or 20 minutes of the film and does stuff that

I met that character as they've built him throughout

the movie would not do So I don't know I had

a lot of problems with it Like like Nate was

saying they didn't change a lot of things but

the things they did change seemed unnecessary

and wrong like Change the things that Nate says

and don't change the things you did change Yeah,

it's like some of the stuff they changed were

Kind of took key elements away from the story

that then make other elements that they left

in not work totally so thumbs down Yeah, definitely.

Yeah, it's really hard to talk about this movie

without spoiling anything, but yeah I don't know

definitely not not worth seeing go watch the

original and then I don't know plan to take a

nap afterwards Yeah, you know do something where

you can kind of route think about what you just

would you just seen and then hold back on any

desire to see the new one Yeah The guy who actually

suggested the original one to me, I went to him

at work this morning. It was like, don't see

the remake. Just don't put yourself through it.

Don't do it. All right, shifting gears completely,

let's talk about the most recent, not the one

that's in the theater now, but the most recent

Muppet movie from a few years ago, The Muppets.

The original reboot, I guess we can call it.

Which, Matt, you had not seen until recently.

We all were able to watch that film within this

last week here. Matt, as someone who had not

seen the film, what was your reaction to this

kind of reintroduction to The Muppets? I had

actually never seen any Muppets movie or the

original TV show. My only experience with The

Muppets was The Muppet Babies in the 90s. I had

an idea. Like, Ms. Figgy loves Kermit, Kermit's

silly, Fozzy has really bad humor, and Gonzo's

the one that's, you know, he's Gonzo. And so,

like, I had an idea of going in what to expect,

but I really enjoyed this movie. A lot more than

I expected myself to, because, you know, I always

go on the fence with kids' movies or younger

movies, but this had, like, it had so many things

that I was expecting that I wanted, and... didn't

have things I was worried about. I remember at

one point I was like, oh, they're going to do

that one cliched thing. And Nate turned to me

and went, yeah, that's what they've been doing

this whole movie. And I was like, oh, yeah, I

guess it's been enjoyable. It's poking fun at

everything that it was supposed to be doing.

It's like, these are the things we do. Isn't

it funny? And I was like, yes, yes it is. And

then I immediately, when it was done, pulled

out my laptop and bought the soundtrack off Amazon.

Right there. It is a great soundtrack. The question

is now, do you want your Muppet experience and

what you think about when you think about the

Muppet franchise to be these two films, or do

you have a desire now to go back and watch any

of the originals? Oh, I totally. If I could find

a box set with the originals or something at

a good price, I would immediately buy it. And

I do want to see the old ones. And I wish they

were on Amazon, Hulu, or Netflix so that I could

watch them. Yeah and there's definitely both

good and bad with the with the originals and

there's definitely a lot to choose from. I mean

you got the Muppet movie, The Great Muppet Caper,

Muppets Take Manhattan, Muppet Treasure Island,

Muppets in Space. So I mean not all of them are

as good as the other ones. So is it bad that

I really liked Muppet Treasure Island? No. Because

I'm pretty sure that's one of the ones that everyone

hates. And The Muppet Christmas Carol, I forgot

about that one. It'd be interesting to see your

reaction to each one of those and see which ones

you liked and which ones you didn't like a conversation

for another time But you mentioned the soundtrack

the music is awesome. Obviously a lot of influence

there from some people that we are familiar with

from their Flight of the Concords as well as

other stuff that they did And you could definitely

tell the songs that are most influenced by them

It had definitely their voice in their songs.

It was like listening to the Muppets sing Fight

of the Concord songs. Exactly what I want in

life. That's what everyone should want in life.

And I guess for you, I guess it doesn't really

spoil the originals. You wouldn't have had, since

you didn't see the originals, you wouldn't realize

which characters were from the originals and

which characters were new to the film. But one

thing I liked that the Muppet movie did was introduce

specifically one major character that was new,

and it didn't feel like he was out of place,

and it felt like all of them coexisted pretty

well, so I liked that. And I loved... the way

that they not only made a remake or a reboot,

but they played complete, paid complete respect

and homage to the original films in a lot of

clever ways that didn't make it seem overhanded.

Nate, you enjoyed the first one as well, right?

Yeah, yeah, the first Muppet movie and then the

new one here was really good. Okay, so we all

then went and saw Muppets Most Wanted and we'll

get it as far as you know, later on we can talk

as compared to the Muppets and see which one

we liked better, et cetera. And one thing that

you guys probably aren't aware of that we usually

do is when we have a main attraction that's in

theaters, we do give it a star rating, one through

five, at the end of our discussion so you can

start thinking about that. And you can give halves

if you want, like two and a half, three and a

half, or whatever. But we usually do that towards

the end. But first reaction, you went and saw

Muppets Most Wanted. You know, Matt, for you,

basically a day after you saw the Muppets. What

was your first reaction coming out of the theater

after seeing Muppets Most Wanted? Well, I had

seen a bunch of trailers, and I don't know what

I was expecting. It seemed a little different

than what I expected, and mostly in good ways,

honestly. It opened up with that song where they

talked about how sequels aren't usually as good

as the... the original and then they're like

well this is actually like our seventh sequel

anyway um which i thought those were both great

points um and so i didn't try to have too high

of expectations um i don't know like it was one

of those things it was like i don't know if it

was as good as the previous one but i definitely

would go and see a third one if they made it

i guess would be what i came out of the theater's

thinking i felt a lot of similar things there.

I felt like I didn't know if it was quite as

good as the one before it, but it wasn't such

a letdown that I still completely enjoyed myself.

I still found myself laughing to a lot of things.

And I felt confident that they had maintained

what they started with that most recent one and

that they left the possibility for success and

for more Muppet movies to come. And that's always

my desire is for as many Muppet movies as possible.

You know what at one point I would like to point

out I guess that I didn't mention was that uh

when I walked out of the theater I was like,

I don't know. I was pretty good But then the

more I thought about it and the more I started

talking other people I just realized how many

moments I just really loved Yeah, and you mentioned

the opening and for me that is my that was actually

my favorite part of the film the first 15 minutes

Obviously it takes a completely different tone,

not really tone, but it does shift gears once

it gets into the actual main plot. I almost wish

they would have kept just going with the way

it started. and somehow made a plot that kind

of kept that same feel that they had in that

opening. Well, I think what you're trying to

talk about is the idea of how meta the opening

was. Because they're making self -referential

jokes about it being a movie and all of this

stuff. And then they kind of get into this section

where the rest of the movie is all of them just

being in a movie. And they're not really commenting

on the fact that it's a movie or anything. just

trying to do a regular movie, and that wasn't

working as well as all the meta -jokes were earlier.

In the new Muppet movie, the one right before

this one, like the whole movie is chock full

of like in jokes and jokes where it's like it's

like hey look this is a movie ha ha ha we just

did this i don't know and and that that was great

stuff and i wish i would i would have seen more

of that in this one and i think even if they

did go into like the actual movie and even if

they kind of abandoned some of the meta stuff

like it wouldn't have been not that it was jarring

or whatever but it Like I don't know that you

have plots for what do we have seven eight nine

eight Muppet movies so far and and some are some

are more serious than others Some are more fun.

Some are more goofy. Some are more whatever and

like this one like you go from this Kind of making

fun of itself and and this kind of fun airy type

vibe And I get that you're gonna eventually transition

into a plot for this film but but we went from

that straight to like gulag and Constantine and

you know this like not that it was like super

heavy or like spy whatever but it was like I

Don't know. It's just like you went from this

and then immediately was like oh stop feeling

like that Stop feeling like you're having fun.

We're gonna go do stuff in the gulag Yeah, not

that it wasn't fun still there as the movie but

it was just like a quick like about face like

whoop shift gears and No, it was definitely fun.

That was a great movie. Um Yeah, I don't know

the only Don't know I kind of want to talk about

Tina Fey for a second because I love Tina Fey

and I've just I don't know I felt like she didn't

get to do anything as a character because her

character was just like so one -sided It really

depressed me because I love Tina Fey so much

Yeah, I thought she had her moments and then

it kind of got her parts kind of got old on me

Yeah, eventually and I yeah, I think they could

have done better stuff Not only met your thoughts

on Tina Fey, but both of you I'm curious if you

had a favorite cameo appearance Well, I guess

I'll lead off with a double on both of those

I think my favorite was when Tina Fey was all

like good night Danny Trejo I personally just

love Danny Trejo. I've seen Machete and it was

great. I've seen other of his movies. Nearly

as many as Nate has seen But I enjoy him as an

actor. I've seen all of the Spy Kids movies.

So his cameo there, which was a little bit more

than a cameo, really. I love Tina Fey in this,

and I get that she was kind of a one -dimensional

character, but I think she really sold that and

I was interested in everything she did and said.

I don't know I feel like I would I would have

liked it better if she was recasted as More of

a normal person instead of this Russian Like

gulag, I don't even know warden. Yeah Did you

have a favorite cameo Nate? Don't know I'm thinking

I'm actually thinking about the cameos in this

movie and they weren't as strong as the other

ones There is the one before this one I had to

this stuck out for me while you while you think

about it, and I agree I don't think they were

quite as strong as other one, but the two that

stuck out the most for me was number one Mr.

Hobo making because it was a cameo. Oh, yeah

from the movie previous that Galifianakis is

in it. Hobo Joe! Hobo Joe there and my other

one because I was curious who was doing the singing

when they kept going to the the guy that was

in the the chamber by himself and when when Josh

Groban came out I thought that was pretty clever

So those are the two that kind of got the most

chuckle out of me, but go back to some that you

liked Or didn't like I don't know. I thought

Ray Liotta was hilarious. Not because he was

being funny, but just because he was there because

I haven't seen Ray Liotta in forever. I think

I missed at least half of the cameos. I didn't

get who Josh Groban was. Nate told me later that

Jermaine Clement was in it and I didn't see him

at all. Like I just missed all the cameos. It

was just like people in that movie to me. Jermaine

was... Jimmy Jemaine was the bearded Like the

main gulag guy. Yeah, he was the inmate. Yeah,

it seemed that that was Danny Trejo to me cuz

Danny Trejo steals the scene I thought it was

great. I thought he did a great I thought all

those the gulag guys were pretty good and that's

something too mad that I guess you're not as

used to looking for the cameos but like after

watching seven other Muppet films like it's just

part of the culture like you that's something

you expect because that's just kind of tradition

with what they do with these movies so you're

always kind of looking for you know some other

ones that we had in this one what do we have

we had I don't know what name he goes by now

but Puff Daddy was in there. Usher? Yeah Usher

that was a good one a decent one too. Yeah that

was pretty good. Yeah, it is just chock full

of them, and everybody probably has different

ones that they like the most, but it's just kind

of part of the Muppet fun. What else did you

like or dislike about this film, Nate? Well,

I love the puppetry. The actual, like, the emotion

behind the characters, they've always done a

great job with that, and it's just amazing to

see that kind of stuff. That was probably my

favorite part about you're just watching Kermit

like a moat when he's just a sock puppet, you

know favorite Muppet in this film It's always

animal every time I see animal I'm just like

yeah He was a he played a bigger part in this

one than he does a lot of times and I thought

that was cool because obviously he was kind of

playing the animal role where he could sniff

out or sense You know good versus bad, I guess,

or the familiar versus the unfamiliar. I don't

know which character I like the best in this

one. I'd probably have to think about it a little

bit more. Matt, did you have a Muppet in this

one that stood out to you the most? Well, I relate

to Fozzie the most, personally, but I really

liked, oh, shoot, the evil Kermit. Constantine?

Constantine. I don't know, I think it was his

voice, and him not being able to pronounce things

at all, and nobody really going, wait a second.

I like that they reference that, and there's

not really spoilers in this, because it's all

Muppets stuff. That's like trailer stuff. I like

the fact that even at one point Fozzie's like,

or I think it was Fozzie who kind of like realizes

that he sounded nothing. Oh, I guess he didn't

really sound anything like you. Oh, but I got

a favorite cameo, it's Christoph Waltz. Oh jeez,

I forgot about his. Doing the Waltz. I don't

even know who that guy is. He was the one doing

the dance at one of the first shows with like

the big ol' huge muppet thing. He's from Inglourious

Pastry, he's the Jew Hunter. He's from Django

Unchained. Yeah, he plays German guys in Boldable.

Yeah. Yeah. Because he's German. Go figure. And

since we were in that, yeah. But no, I don't

know. There's a lot of good things about this

film, like I said. I don't know if I'd quite

put it up to the level of the last one, but...

Simber, what about the music in this one compared

to the... You said you went out and bought the

soundtrack from that first one. Immediately,

music live up to par or not quite? I don't think

it was as good as the first one, but I think

if I had the money, I'd probably seriously consider

buying it from the second one. Don't know if

it did or not, but it almost seemed like I had

more music like they did they went to music more

often in this one But maybe not I don't know.

I I think my favorite song though is definitely

the interrogation song I don't know if you remember

that one trying to think it's uh They're like

trying to figure out if the Muppets did the robbery

and they're singing a song It's a duet between

the the eagle That was a toe -tapper. That was

a toe -tapper. I don't know if any of them stood

up to the level of Man or Muppet or whatever.

I did like that original, the opening song, like

I said, but that's more because I liked the entire

opening of this film. What about radians for

this one? If we're going on a five -star scale,

what do you guys think about Muppet's Most Wanted?

Nate, what's your ranking for it? Well, jeez,

um, I don't know no I give uh, I give the the

Muppets the one before this one probably a four

and I give this one probably a 3 .5 Matt that

that was exactly what I would have given I agree

100 % with Nate 3 .5 for this one We're not supposed

to agree on this show. No, I'm just kidding.

Come on. Well, I think the issue here is that

Matt and I think so much alike that it's hard.

I usually just let Matt talk and he's like, yeah,

I'm like, yeah, that's what Matt said. I would

actually probably do the exact same, though,

too. I think. Oh, God. Yeah, I think the first

one gets four, really strong four. I'd almost

even consider going to four and a half but but

it really strong for and then this one again

Just a step below it. So if you're going to step

below four, you're at three and a half So but

it's still a good movie and you should all see

it. Yeah, totally in theaters recommend All right.

Well that does it for the main attraction as

far as coming attractions go some stuff coming

out on DVD Blu -ray here this week anything that

caught your guys eye outside of the few big ones

that I wanted to bring up which there really

wasn't much besides the Wolf of Wall Street as

far as films from last year Wolf of Wall Street

is coming out and there wasn't any other like

major major films from last year but anything

that caught your guys eye as far as Blu -ray

releases? Just the Avengers confidential Black

Widow Punisher but I mean that caught my eye

when we were watching it was an old boy that

had a preview for it and I was like that's not

a team up. Yeah. Also, Punish is not really an

Avenger in my book. Oh, Delivery Man, I guess,

was a film from last year. That's coming out

too. I didn't ever remember anything much about

that one. Missed that one last year on purpose.

And we talked about the theater releases. Obviously,

Noah, Raid 2, Sabotage, Caesar Chavez, a biopic

coming out. So some stuff there. It's starting

to pick up here. We're getting into a little

bit busier movie times. So you kind of have your

choice now. You can go see Muppets. You can go

see 300. You got Noah out there. You got Divergent.

So there's some choices as you visit the theater

next week, if you do. Anything coming out next

week that you guys are actually interested in

from theater releases? Any interest in Noah,

Nate? Yeah, definitely. I'm interested in Noah.

I'd go see that with you if you wanted to. We

will do that. Um, yeah, no is that at the top

of my list out of those I really want to see

how that it looks epic and I am a sucker for

epics Even if a lot of them are bad, I will see

them because I enjoy them It looks like um the

classic like charlton heston style like uh crazy

magic stuff. I like it. Yeah, um as far as Last

week's credit conversation we were talking about

We talked about Nazis at the center of the earth

last week and the question that you guys brought

up was The most predictable or more most shocking

the best twist the worst twist that you guys

have seen As far as the movies go and we did

get some responses there from quite a few people

anything that any of the Go ahead. Is someone,

like, shuffling foil? What's going on? Oh, that's

me. My bad. Come on. Anything that, uh, any of

the comments from the, uh, from last week's post

that you guys wanted to bring up of people's,

uh, twist endings or shocking endings that you

agreed with or disagree with? I can't get to

the website to see the comments. Darn it all.

It says maintenance mode is on when I go there.

Um... Let's see, I'm trying to remember now off

the top of my head. I mean, just for everyone

who has posted a comment, I've read every comment

on there probably four times. I also have a really

terrible memory. I'm the type of guy to refresh

it three or four or five times a day and be like,

aw, we haven't had a comment in three hours.

I do the same thing. Comment as much as you guys

want, and we'll try to respond to all of them.

Yeah, except for when the website doesn't work

and we can't read any of them. Yeah. Because

it's happening. It's not just Matt's computer.

The website is apparently down right now. I do

remember one guy said the least shocking was

The Village, which I have to say, as someone

who's a fan of M. Night Shyamalan with only ever

seen one of his movies ever, every time I hear

one of his endings, I'm like, whoa, really? And

so when I saw the previews for that, And then

I was told what the ending was probably five,

six years later. I thought it was shocking, but

that's just me, I guess. Well, maybe we can kind

of get into that. And before we try to respond

to comments that we can't see, maybe we can get

into our own choices for what we feel are some

of the best twists or some of the most obvious

worst twists that we've seen. in our movie history,

I got a couple off the top of my head here that

are some of the best that I remember. The twist,

I guess you can call it a twist though, but the

whole movie for me. Usual Suspects to me has

a great twist at the end. Have either of you

guys seen Usual Suspects? I have, I'm really

into heist movies in the last six months. I've

been buying up every heist movie I see. I mean,

I bought American Hustle last week without having

seen it just because I want another heist movie

in my collection. But I've been told... Since

the 90s the usual suspects has the greatest twist

ending so going into it I was sitting there dissecting

the whole movie the whole time So I wasn't half

as surprised as I should have been right But

I mean it I mean it was so well done that if

you didn't know that there was an ending I imagine

it was crazy that kind of goes to what one of

the people commented on with with Star Wars which

to me is literally Impossible like the percentage

of people that saw that film that could actually

appreciate the twist Has got to be such a small

number Yeah, I mean I got that that twist spoiled

for me when I was like in first grade The problem

with that is the twist is one of the most repeated

lines Yeah, you know in movie history it seems

like so it's like So many people had to have

that spoiled way before that, so it's almost

like it defeats the purpose of it at this point.

I think I knew about Luke, I Am Your Father,

before I knew what Star Wars was. Right. See,

I grew up on Star Wars, so I probably had that

as an original thing. I was just, you know, four.

It's like I can't remember being shocked, because,

like, I mean, I had those movies practically

memorized before the special editions came out.

Those are those were movies before you even saw

them you knew you're like, oh, that's that's

you know, Luke's father And then you're like,

what's I don't get this scene Didn't we already

know this some other ones that I like one that

kind of falls under the radar a little bit Arlington

Road I I've never heard of that. Okay. Well,

here's the situation. I and this is Kind of Monte

Cristo is one of those films that I always bring

up that that nobody's ever seen and then I show

that to people and 99 % of the time people enjoy

it. Is that on our coffee table stack? Yes. No,

Arlington Road is not. Oh, dang it. Arlington

Road is one of those films that I bring up that

nobody's ever seen and then I show them the film

and then they hate me for it. Now I need to see

it. But I really enjoy the film. But yeah, that's

a twist that I enjoy. And then Memento, obviously,

is a classic twist. Those were some of the first

ones that came to my mind. I guess for worst

twists, I got to go with Titanic. No, I'm just

kidding. What were some of your guys' best and

least favorite twists that you've seen over the

years? I don't know. It's so hard to pick a bad

twist movie, because if a twist is done poorly,

then it's hard. What about some good ones that

you've seen then? I didn't know he was the twist

guy, so when I saw it, I just was going in to

see a new Bruce Willis movie. And so at the end,

it was just like, what? What was I watching?

And I guess you bring up him. Sixth Sense, I

guess, has a classic twist as well. Yeah. I've

actually never seen Sixth Sense because the twist

has been ruined for me. So I feel like, what's

the point? That's another one where I guess there's

a quote that goes right along with it that is

used a lot. So maybe that can... plan to ruin

it for a lot of people. For good twists, I actually

really enjoyed the Lego movie. I felt like that

actually had a decent twist to it. Yeah, I can

see that. I agree with that. Matt, what about

a couple that you like? Unbreakable is the one

I had planned, which is why I kind of stole the

light from Nate. Sorry, dude. Any that you were

completely predictable on your end that you remember.

To me, that's hard. I was trying to think of

it. I know there's been a lot that I've been

like, oh, you didn't see that coming. Or I've

been sitting in next to someone that was watching

it with me, and I'm like, wait, that was a twist

for you. But then I forget about them, so I can't

even think of those movies. Um, yeah. Like...

Titanic 2 would have been such a great twist.

Ooh, it's spoilers! I'll bleep it out. Just leave

it as Titanic 2 would've been, and then just

bleep. Yeah, yeah. I gotta find that bleep sound

effect now. Now I forgot it, because that's what

happens. I guess there were a couple of them

that were pretty twist -surprising, but for one

reason or another didn't hit me. The first old

boy, I was just like, this is what's happening.

And then it happened like a minute later, and

I was like, I probably shouldn't have just said

that, just kept that to myself. And then, yeah,

there was another one then. I got a bad memory.

I mentioned that before. No one blamed me. Blame

his memory. Well, I mean, we can keep the conversation

going on the website, too. And I'm trying to

think of other people's other movies that people

brought up. without being able to look at them

currently. I know that brought up - Star Wars.

Yeah, there was Star Wars, there was Memento,

I think a couple other people brought that one

up too. Shoot. We all have bad memories. And

then there was that one guy, thank you to the

guy who brought up why Taco Bell was relevant

to Demolition Man. That wasn't a twist, but it

was something that we had all forgotten. Yes.

We always like to be educated by the listeners.

And we'll have to look back at some of the other

comments, and maybe we'll respond to them at

the beginning of the next episode, since none

of us can view them currently. Dope. I do have

a question for this next week, though, that I

just came up with over the course of recording

this. And we talked about the Need for Speed

doing bad. This last couple weeks and we talked

about the idea that a splinter cell Movie is

in the works. So how about this one for a question

for next week? What is the best or your favorite

video game adaptation? film wise Best and worst.

Well, what's the best and worst video game film

adaptations? We've had or even take it a step

further What video game has not been made into

a movie that you would love to see in movie form?

I could talk about this for a whole episode.

So we will have a whole big long credit conversation

next week with Nate since he is a video game

guru. So yeah, which video game movie is awesome,

which video game movie is terrible, and which

video game movie do you want to see happen? That'll

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