CINEMA GEEKS
RoboCop 2014 Review

About this Episode
Hi, this is Christy Marx, the writer of Gem and
the Holograms and Beast Wars, and you're listening
to GeekCast Radio Network. Today on NWR Weekly,
we have tons of trailers to discuss possible
Knight Rider casting and a discussion of the
latest remake of Robocop. All that and more coming
up on NWR Weekly. Welcome to MY Weekly, the podcast
dedicated to the movie week that was. I am one
of your hosts, Dan Clark, and joining me, as
always, is Kevin Optima Solo. How's it going,
man? It's going excellent. Going well, going
well. It's your winter. You surviving this awesome
winter? I am ready for it to be over. I guess
we got spoiled with some mild winters in the
last decade, and this is not one of them. No,
no. Yeah, it's saving up for one big... Pile
of dump over one day, but uh, yeah, I'm ready
for spring I'm like I'm ready for like this summer
movie season and just because it'll also be warmer.
So yes double bonus for those returning For those
return visitors are for those first time listeners,
we are MY Weekly. Like I mentioned, we have a
podcast dedicated to the movie week that was.
We'll start with a discussion of what we've been
watching recently. Then we'll move on into the
movie news and we'll head on over to our main
attraction after that. And this week we'll be
discussing the remake of Robocon that recently
came out. And we'll finish up with our credit
conversation where we discussed the feedback
from last week and look forward to upcoming Blu
-ray and DVD releases. Also, I should mention
that we do have a little bit of a special game
We'll be playing if you listen previously, you
know, we talked about the box office a lot So
with all that box office knowledge, we decided
to try a little bit of a game We'll we'll be
trying to protect what we feel end up being the
top 10 films of 2014 in regarding a box office
So we'll see how we are and as we go through
the box efforts each week It'll add another little
element to it. So it should be fun. Yeah But
to start things off, I guess we'll start things
off like we always do. Kevin, have you been watching
anything recently? It was actually a slow week
for me as far as being able to get to watch very
many films. I believe the only film I saw this
week was Scott Pilgrim. I had never seen that
one in its entirety. And so my roommates and
I watched that one. And that was definitely a
good, interesting film there, fun, kind of turn
your brain off and just enjoy a film, I guess.
So so I enjoyed that one Kind of missed out on
it. I guess when it was out, I don't know why
but I did so I saw that and I saw RoboCop But
I don't believe I saw anything else unless it's
just completely left me already So I guess are
you a fan of like Edgar Wright's other movies
like hot fuzz and the world's end and of course
on with the dad at all like Do you feel like
how it backs up to those? Haven't seen any of
those in like there. I haven't seen any of them
from beginning to end that's on my list of things
to watch Okay. Yeah, it took me I think I watched
onto the dead like four or five times until I
finally sat down to watch it like straight through
So I can understand that I'm kind of right there
with you. I haven't watched a great deal I got
to watch a few extra things because I end up
being snowed in for a day But and one of them
is one that I know you've seen and that's runner
runner Okay, finally got a chance to see that
it was a little bit of a red box visit and Yeah,
I know there's a lot of hatred to that movie
and I do agree I wasn't a big fan of it I didn't
have a high expectations going in of course and
for those that don't know it starts turning it
starts Justin Timberlake as He's a college student
basically trying to Make ends meet. He's a failed
stockbroker or something of that in order to
can pay his tuition. He gets into Online poker
and eventually he loses all and he has to kind
of try to get it back So he goes into the Cayman
Islands I believe to track down the person who
runs the gambling site in which is played by
Ben Affleck and He of course gets brought into
this world and takes it over and it's like this
rags riches But there's a cough type of story,
you know Ben Affleck playing kind of like a gangster
not necessarily but uh It had moments for sure.
I think Justin Timberlake was Was pretty good.
I mean, he's definitely You can see like a leading
man in him. I think he has charisma. He has charm
I do think though is one of those movies that
wasn't nearly as smart as it thought it was at
times It would use a lot of like, you know lingo
and stuff like that regarding gambling and poker
but it felt like it was trying to be smart just
by talking fast a lot of the time but it's also
a movie kind of it's a story you've seen before,
you know and I also didn't really think Ben Affleck
was all that fantastic as the antagonist. He
doesn't have a menace. He's supposed to be this
guy that you hate or this guy that you fear.
And I didn't really get that from him. He just
felt really miscast in that. There were some
fun moments, though, like I mentioned, some of
the poker stuff. The relationships and whatnot
worked for the most part, but it's it's a fine
rental. I Wasn't the biggest fan of it, but I
think it's I think it had like a 12 % on rotten
tomatoes I don't know if it's that bad, but I
couldn't necessarily recommend it either. So
yeah, I echo all that as time has passed, you
know, it was You know, I enjoyed seeing Justin
Timberlake and I was interested just to see how
him and Ben Affleck would play off of each other,
but it definitely didn't live up to the potential
it could have had. There's a lot of movies last
year about the pitfalls of being beyond filthy
rich. Didn't really recognize that as I was going
through the year, but looking back, there was
a lot of those stories where people just were
making a lot of money. Suffering, you know due
to their choices or this that and the other.
Yeah. Yeah, very true. You had died like Gatsby
and Wolf of Wall Street You also had oh Spring
Breakers kind of mentions that a little bit and
other so yeah that is that was a big theme last
year was the kind of like the take on that American
dream of Getting as much as you can as quickly
as you can and the repercussions that follow
The other movie I saw well Sorry, oh and with
another 23 or I'll go with another 2013 film,
which is very very different which was enough
said Sorry, Julia Dreyfus and James Gandolfini.
It's a small small independent film kind of like
a romantic comedy in a way and I didn't actually
enjoy this quite a bit. It's very charming The
chemistry between elites are very is very strong.
It felt very realistic at times like they're
There's a really great dinner scene between them.
Like it's a first date and it feels like a first
date, the conversations and the awkwardness.
It really hits that. And I can't help but while
watching this just feel sad because it's James
Gandolfini and it's him playing against hype
for the most part. He's not playing a gangster.
He's not playing, you know, some mob guy. He's
like just kind of the big teddy bear in a way.
Kind of like a slob, but you kind of just love
him and he's such a good guy in it. And he hits
that role really well. He's really quiet in that
role. And it just sad because I felt like this
would be a movie that could probably open up
more doors for him and kind of get him away from
being typecast. But unfortunately, with him passing
away, that won't happen. Right. But my only really
big issue with this, and I don't want to go into
depth because there's a spoiler attached to it,
there's this really big coincidence that happens
that kind of ties the movie together. It's kind
of this big reveal near the end. Well, you know
what's going on. but like halfway through. And
it just felt unnecessary for this movie. It just
felt like a really unnecessary gag that really
didn't come to much. Like I said, I don't really
want to give it away, but basically it involves
a relationship between two characters and how
close they really are without you knowing. But
I don't know. I would definitely recommend it.
I know it was nominated for a few Golden Globes,
and I do agree. There aren't a lot of amazing
romantic comedies, but I would say this is pretty
good one and it's a good like middle age one
of course because it it comments a lot on marriages
and comments a lot about second marriages and
that and how to keep Those together and the openness
with those relationships, but it's really good.
I would highly recommend it And i'll finish off
with a kind of classic I mentioned like a few
episodes ago that i'm trying to kind of knock
some movies off of my list of shame and I did
last week with M and also Easy Rider. This one's
not necessarily, you know, the cinematic feet
of M but it's known to be really great. mostly
because of the director and the person who wrote
it and that the writer being Quentin Tarantino
and the director Tony Scott and The movie's true
true romance. Have you seen true romance at all?
No, that's also on my list of things that I need
to watch when I was making my decade list I remember
doing the 90s and 1993 and writing that one down
as one of the ones I needed to see still Yeah,
and actually I picked it up on Blu -ray at Target
for like five dollars So I'm like, okay now I
have no excuse not to see it finally sat down
and watch it and I Completely understand where
the love of that movie is coming from. I don't
know if I Loved it as much as I hear some people
like saying it's like Tony Scott's best movie
And stuff like that and I could kind of see that
it doesn't really feel like a Tony Scott movie
It feels more like a Quentin Tarantino movie
you know Christian Slater stars in it and Basically,
he kind of falls in such his relationship with
this prostitute and You kind of go on this like
really weird adventure. The cast is like insane.
You have everyone from Christian Slater to Do
you like I'm James Gannon Alfini has a small
role in it to go back to James golf and Alfini
you have oh Dennis Hopper you have This name
just slipped my mind. I had it written down,
but I forget Christopher Walken actually that's
what I'm thinking of and Christopher Walken gives
this awesome He's only in it for a brief time,
but he has this awesome interrogation with Dennis
Hopper and it's probably the best scene in the
movie It's a it's a great scene. It's root makes
you realize Oh, yeah Christopher Walken used
to be a an actor and not just a joke that people
made in Didn't impersonations of but yeah, so
again, I know a lot of people have already seen
it. It's really well regarded, but I was just
happy to cross that off my list. So I enjoyed
it a great deal. So I think that's pretty much
it for us from what we've been watching recently.
It might be a little bit of a quicker episode,
but I think that's OK. So when we come back,
we'll be discussing the news and getting into
the future box office. So we'll see you in a
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I still can't say something about Transformers,
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alright. Alright and welcome back We're gonna
begin the news like we always do with a look
at this past weekends box office And I think
we called it last week. It was kind of an obvious
call, but we went with it anyways and Number
one again is of course the leg of movie the biggest
the first blockbuster of 2014 ranking in another
48 million dollars So with a total gross of 129
million and a budget of only 60 million making
it, you know, making it double its budget already
in only two weeks. So we know it's getting a
sequel. Something new? Go ahead. Well, and the
thing with that is it's kind of interesting since
it already doubled its budget in a two week time
period is we know based on our time so far with
MWR Weekly, you know, towards the end of last
year that the shelf life of animated films can
be very long depending on, you know, how many
come out. In the future to bump it. So I mean
it could have a very long shelf life, which if
it's already double its budget it could it could
Have potential to to rake in some money before
it gets to split into placed too far down the
list. Yeah Yeah, we like you said we saw that
with like frozen and then Despicable me and even
a couple of other ones from last year that just
lasted a long time But another thing just real
quick before you move on on Lego movie. It's
interesting. You don't always have a number one
as far as the best box office of the weekend
that also had a drop in 30 % from last week.
Usually you see an increase or a flat line of
a brand new movie, not always where you see one
that has a decline like that that's still in
first place. Yeah, very true, very true. We had
a few new films come out last week and the number
one, the highest ranking film debut of course
is about last night. with it being Valentine's
Day. Not too surprising, coming in with $27 million.
Not far behind our main attraction for this week,
Robocop. Not necessarily the biggest state movie
of the year, though that is what I saw at the
theater with my wife on Valentine's Day. So who
knows? That came in with $21 million. And number
two from last week, Monuments Men, drops all
the way down to number four with $15 million
and finishing off the top five. The other another
big release for 20 for last weekend, which was
endless love coming in with 13 million Looking
at just the new ones from this week. We talked
about how it would rank out So we had about last
night then RoboCop then endless love and then
winter's tale So it was interesting to see how
those shook up I wasn't quite sure exactly how
they were gonna line up but not super surprising
I guess you know again about last night making
a good amount of money and I wonder if it's Kevin
Hart factor that guy can just rank in box office.
I mean right now he has two movies in the top
ten Kind of crazy. Yeah for sure I would say
that that the people behind RoboCop have to be
somewhat disappointed with that opening though
Only because of its budget size and if it only
got a fifth of its budget back in the opening
weekend They might be a little nervous Yeah,
yeah, it's with a budget of a hundred million
dollars if it could crack it's gonna be an uphill
battle for that to For that to crack a hundred
million, but I guess on the bright side There's
not a huge amount coming out for this rest of
the this month So maybe it will have a little
bit of a saying panel The other bright side for
it is number one There's not you know a bunch
of huge movies that are going to displace it
But also there's not a bunch of movies in its
genre that it's competing against very true I
mean Jack Ryan in shadow recruits not really
a competition for that and You know, there's
really nothing else even in the top 20 that is
that type of film So maybe it can have you know
Even if it can just have the same and kind of
flatline a little bit and have you know 15 to
20 million for a few weeks It would be a positive
for that film. Very true. Very true. Anything
else in the box office and kind of stand out
to you? You know, not necessarily. Obviously
we still have a lot of the Oscar films that are
up there still kind of trickling in some dollars.
Big drop for Labor Day went from 10th last week
down to 17th. So that was kind of a surprise
that it dropped as much as it did and now Vampire
Academy and a few things like that are ahead
of it. But other than that, no, nothing that's
too surprising. And if you look at our yearly
box office so far, which we started doing last
week, as we predicted, LEGO Movie has taken the
top spot now for 2014. And the top five is made
up of LEGO Movie, Ride Along, The Nut Job, Jack
Ryan's Shadow Recruit, and then Monuments Men,
all in the $40 to $129 million range. Interesting,
interesting. One thing I did want to make note
is officially, though, with the Wolf of Wall
Street, didn't make a lot of money last weekend,
but one thing it did do, and it became the highest
grossing movie for Martin Scorsese ever. Which
is kind of crazy. With making it right now, it
has 110 million dollars. So, never would have
thought that, but I guess part of that is inflation
and stuff like that. Because you think about
it, his last big hit was probably, well, I mean,
he's had a lot of... But like things like The
Aviator and Kings of New York didn't really have
the box office of Wolf of Wall Street. So interesting.
I guess if you count on inflation, I'm sure things
like Goodfellas would make a lot more. But the
fact that theater prices are a little higher,
I think it accounts for that a little bit. But
a little bit interesting. I think it's one of
those... I can see that being one of those trivia
questions you get in the future where people
aren't really sure. Yeah, for sure. And Frozen...
As we mentioned has been you know, moving up
the ranks a little bit. It was I think it last
time we checked in all time It was like somewhere
in the 27th range. It's now into the 23rd all
-time domestic Gross for box office at 376 million.
It's a a million behind the Lord of the Rings
returning the king Wow, and it's probably gonna
be that's crazy. I never and then after that
it's it's about 4 million behind Star Wars Revenge
of the Sith and Finding Nemo so Definitely an
impressive showing from Disney. Yeah that yeah,
you think that'll make 400 million you think
you could crash that I don't know. They kind
of did that rerelease of like the sing -along
version in the theater I don't know exactly what
that's like or what that consists of but uh,
I don't know It's gonna be an uphill battle for
it to try to get up to that point It would take
some type of rerelease at some point down the
road I would think and it does also we never
really talked about it and but and it's already
been this but it It is the number two Disney
animated film of all time, if I'm looking at
everything right with the only one ahead of it
being Lion King. Makes sense, makes sense. So
very interesting there. And speaking of the yearly
thing, maybe you can talk a little bit more about
what we're doing with that. Yeah, so basically
what we decided to do kind of A little bit spiced
to this countdown each week was, we're gonna
try to guess what we feel will be the top 10
movies of box office by the end of the year.
Before you get too far into it, what we're actually
gonna do, and maybe we can give a brief, how
much, you know, because we basically started
doing MR Weekly and started looking at the box
office numbers on a weekly basis when the show
started, but how much... Prior to that, did you
pay attention to the box office numbers? Is it
something that's piqued your interest for a long
time? Is it something you're fairly new as far
as getting involved and tracking it and seeing
what types of films do well and different trends
and stuff like that? How long have you been kind
of aware of the box office or paying close attention?
Is this something that we're just kind of starting
together? Well, I never paid as much attention
as we do now. I think I would, the most I would,
I would just see what won for the weekend. Like
in, I never, you know, seeing how much, uh, like
what was number one, that was the kind, I always
found that a little bit interesting. And then,
uh, checking out what made it by the end of the
year, but I never really, I think, considered,
um, I never really considered money wise, like
how much something is making or is longevity.
It's more of like a week by week thing. So bye.
I always was curious about that, but nothing
to this extent, but how about yourself? I'm kind
of in the same aspect. I've always I've I always
seem to look at like the all -time list to see
which films are making it up there and And what
you know over time which decades which films
are doing good for that decade or whatever? And
like I said, I've looked at see which one what
film is top it like on a weekly basis But I've
never looked into it like we have been with this
On a weekly basis and it's really starting to
show me some things different trends different
genres that do well or don't do well different
the amount of shelf life that certain movies
have compared to others. So obviously we're not
super like well versed in all things box office.
So this is going to be kind of an initial attempt
to try to predict the box office. So might be
completely terrible at it, but it's going to
be fun to see how we do along the way. And as
we track it and as our films come out that we
that we're about to list, we'll be either disappointed
or or I guess looking forward to seeing how much
they can bring in. Yeah, yeah, very true. I it
could be it could be pretty bad, but I think
I think in some ways There are ones you could
assume would be up there from just past history
But I think when it gets really hard especially
near the top with the top Like I think five to
ten is so much harder to predict than like one
to five And just for people's sake that are listening
to us. This isn't just something at least for
my standpoint. This isn't just I didn't just
take a list of movies that are going to be released
over the course of the year and just kind of
take stabs of the dark and just rank them. I
actually did some research for this. I looked
at the genre of the film it was. I looked at
previous incarnations in a certain franchise,
if it belonged to a franchise, or I tried to
match it up with films that were most like it.
So this isn't just completely just whipping a
list together in a couple seconds, at least not
on my part. I assume you did some similar looks
at certain films. Yeah, I looked at last year.
I looked at trends last year. I looked at the
directors that are coming out with movies this
year and how their performance previously, like
you said, with franchises. I also considered
the time of year, what was around that time,
if it was coming out kind of in a dry period,
if I think that could help it out. And also,
if it was a name property, like how popular that
property really is, and if there was something
I could kind of relate it to, that I think, okay,
well, something ever along those lines did very
well. So I think possibly this could be this
next, you know, how everyone's looking for the
next twilight. So I was trying to look for something
that could follow some of those surprises that
have Fan bases that maybe I'm not completely
aware of but based upon my research have to were
a lot larger than I than I realized so And so
what exactly are we going to be doing there for
the listeners? So we'll start kind of like our
norm I say we start with like a normal countdown
like we wouldn't with our top 10 movies of the
year Well, I'll be giving my number 10 kind of
explaining what I think it is, and then Kev,
I'll transition to you so you can give your number
10 as well. And I'm sure we'll have some crossover.
I would think it would be impossible not to,
but it'd be kind of interesting to see the different
places we rank things if that works out for you.
Yeah, for sure. And then like he said, we're
going to be tracking it throughout the year and
see as films come out and we'll take a look at.
Obviously right now it's card because there's
only been a few films in 2014 But as we will
take a look at the yearly box office each week
And we'll start to see how things are stacking
up as more and more films come out. Yeah, very
true very true so I guess okay, I Will kick things
off here with number 10 and when I talked about
Kind of the next twilight and this isn't necessarily
one I think it might be the next twilight, but
possibly the next Hunger Games it's starring
a Young up -and -coming actress that has received
some credit a critical crank claim It's a franchise
that has pretty rabbit fan base and that is a
divergent a film that I'm not particularly excited
for but I feel it Fits in that framework I could
be completely wrong because we've seen films
that try to capture the magic of Twilight or
whatever you want to call it and it failed but
I think divergent has a potential a is coming
out in a little bit of a time of year with that's
Not with not a huge amount of competition. I
think I'm not There's not a lot around it that
would it be competing again. So I have strong
faith. It'll be number 10 But I could be completely
wrong. So who knows? When I was doing this to
another thing I kind of tried to do is I tried
to put an actual gross Amount next to each film
kind of like a ballpark that I thought each film
would make Because I actually went through a
lot of films and and kind of got my prediction
for what they would actually do and then I kind
of sorted them to Give me my top ten or twenty
or so but looking back if you go back from 2010
to last year and You look at the top tens and
the money that each one brought in what I kind
of seemed to find is In order to be in the top
ten. It seems like you have to be a film. That's
going to breach the 200 million mark Going back
from 2010 like I said you had ten films in 2010
that breached 200 and then one of the other years
you had 11 and then 13 and then 7 as far as films
surpassing that 200 million mark. So I kind of
use that as a benchmark. It had to be a film
that I thought was going to do at least $200
million in order to make the top 10 of the year,
especially with a year like this year, which
seems to have a lot of potential moneymakers.
Obviously, a lot of years seem like they have
a bunch of potential moneymakers, and you have
the flops, and you have the ones that disappoint,
et cetera. But it seems like a year that could
have a lot of, I would say it might have more
than 10 $200 million. movies. And Divergent was
one of the ones I considered but I actually went
with my number 10 and some people might think
I have this way too low and hopefully I do but
my number 10 is going to be Captain America The
Winter Soldier. I think it is now the first chapter
in that franchise made 176 and I think it will
make more than that. But there hasn't been a
lot of Outside of the actual Avengers and the
Iron Man films there hasn't been a lot of them
the Marvel films that have that have surpassed
that 200 mark besides the last Thor the now Thor
went from 181 to 205 and I'm putting at this
one about the same going from 176 to around that
205 million marks So that's why I thought maybe
Captain America might take that tenth spot yeah,
I could I could see that I I'll hold off on saying
much more because that might be coming up shortly,
but yeah, I can understand where you're coming
from regarding that. And I got to use a similar
logic when I got my number nine. And we've talked
about family films a lot, and animation films,
and how much of a long stay they have. I think
one trend, too, when it comes to animation films
is how much the sequels tend to even explode
compared to the original. You look at Spickle
Me 2, which made so much more than it's first
film so that was kind of my thought process with
this might be some people might think this is
another one that may not belong in the top 10
but i think if you think about it i think it
has a shot and that's rio too uh the first rio
made nearly 150 million dollars you talked about
200 million dollars being a good barometer considering
the trend when it comes to sequels for animation
films i think you can you can go into that what
you see a lot is It becomes a huge hit on Blu
-ray and DVD, kids who didn't see it in the theater
now are fans of that franchise who want to go
see it again. I don't think it'll be anything
near the spectacle of me or anything like that,
but it comes out part time of the year where
there's again not a huge amount of animated films
that we know how long those things can stay in
the theater. So again, that was my mindset with
my number nine. So for me, number nine is Rio
2. I definitely considered Rio 2. If we were
expanding this to a top 20 list, I had it in
there. So I can definitely see it coming in there.
And it is hard to see. Some sequels to animated
films, it's almost different with animated films.
Like sequels to live action films seem to drop
a little bit, unless that first one is so good
that it really pumps people up. A lot of times,
sequels drop. Whereas animated films, they either
stay the same or it seems like they increase.
So I can definitely see that. And I was looking
at animated films for my number nine spot too.
And I feel like I'm somewhat cheating here since
it has already been released and we know it's
done since, you know, decent so far. But I think
the Lego movie has the potential, especially
coming out this early in the year, to have enough
time to be in the theater, whether it be through
re -releases later on, or just as long as it's
gonna stay here, because I don't see it being
displaced right away. in as far as animated films.
So I can see that lasting. I have it about in
the two hundred and ten million dollar mark.
I try to compare it to to kind of unique animated
films that we've seen recently. And if you look
at animated films, you have like the the ridiculous
like Frozen and Despicable Me 2 and Finding Nemo
who are up skyrocketing past that three hundred
and seventy range. And then you have like a tier
below that where like Monsters Inc, The Incredibles,
and Shrek were all in like the 260, 280 range.
I don't see it anywhere near that. Braves. Brave
Cars, Toy Story 2 were all about the 230 to 250
range and then after that you get into like Tangled,
Happy Feet, Ice Age, Madagascar, and Wreck -It
Ralph, which were all in like the 180 to 200
range. And I kind of think maybe Lego Movie would
be akin to something like a Wreck -It Ralph,
which was at 189. So I think it's gonna do maybe
a little bit better than that coming out so early
in the year. So I had the Lego Movie at number
nine. Well, interesting because I I have the
Lego movie at number eight So again, I did I
kind of wanted to put a little higher I debated
I was looking at Oz a great powerful which came
out around similar time last year and that ended
up making in the top 10 for 2013 and Unexpectedly
again something that I think stayed in theaters
and had a huge Huge self -life, so I thought
similar with Lego, but I went up with number
eight with Lego I could easily see this making
it even higher considering the fact that there's
it's Dominating right now. It's getting great
reviews. So it it's probably gonna stay that
way for quite a while But uh, so pretty much
just echo exactly what you said with my number
eight with Lego Alright going to my number eight.
I am switching things up a little bit here not
necessarily Don't know I didn't expect this to
necessarily be in my top ten, but as I was looking
at things I'm kind of trying to be somewhat,
you know Scientific I guess with this I came
down to the film Godzilla that's going to be
coming out Now the trick here is we're just looking
at what we're predicting for domestic gross if
we were making a list, you know based on the
entire International and everything that it would
be different because obviously that's gonna appeal
more Than some movies, you know overseas, etc
But what I looked at for that one trying to compare
it a little bit Obviously, there was a Godzilla
film that came out way back in 1998. I don't
think it's a fair comparison exactly to do that,
but maybe gives you a little bit of a of an Inkliness
to the fan base and the 1998 Godzilla film did
about 136 Then I also looked at the King Kong
film from 2005 which did about 218 And I think
that's more so along the lines of what we're
looking for, you know with the visual Advancements
that we've made technology wise etc. So I think
it's gonna be a huge improvement on the 1998
Godzilla Think maybe around the 220 million mark
might be a spot for that. I could be selling
it short Maybe it's gonna be doing even better
than that If it gets you know, if it has good
reviews right away and good buzz. I can see a
lot of people seeing this This is what film know
that if it gets, you know tanked right at the
beginning people might steer away I don't know,
but I have a Godzilla coming in at number eight
interesting interesting Again, I'll hold off
because I think I'll be talking about that one
shortly my number So I went number seven kind
of goes back to when you talked about it already
and that is Captain America. I too thought about
making it higher, but I'm apprehensive because
I feel like Captain America and Thor, they did
well, but they didn't do amazing. They didn't
do Iron Man numbers. So I don't see Captain America
doing the same. It's also coming out in April.
So it's a little bit early for the summer movie
push that you're used to. Think it's gonna do
well. I think it's gonna do much better than
the original dead, but I don't see it Making
it pass anywhere past number seven. I just think
it I think it's gonna I still think that character
is a hard sell for people for certain people
so And I think it's gonna have that Marvel push
like it always does I think Marvel was required
to have a movie in the top ten But I don't see
them cracking the top five for this past for
2014. So um but so that's my number seven so
what is your number seven um you know when i
was looking at this list i I was forced to look
and say, there's got to be some animated films
in here somewhere. There always is. 2010 had
four animated films in the top 10. If you look
at 2012, it had two, which seemed like a lower
number. Last year, you had Frozen, Despicable
Me 2, Monsters University. So it had three in
there. I figure there had to be some animated
films. We already talked about the Lego movie
as well as you talked about Rio too. I think
another animated film that has a good chance
of obviously ending up in the top 10 would be
the sequel to How to Train Your Dragon, How to
Train Your Dragon 2. The first one did 217 million.
I don't know if it will be a huge jump up from
the first one. The first one is pretty well received.
It has the animated series. So I might be selling
this one short too. It might be higher. But I
kind of ran into somewhere around the 220 to
230 range. I think it probably, as far as what
I'm thinking will be the highest ranked animated
film at the box office. I think there's one that
is a sleeper that could get a lot of buzz later
on I did not rank it in my top ten But I have
how to train your dragon to at the seventh spot
as the highest as far as myself goes the highest
rated animated film It's just an interesting
tread There's an interesting trend right now
and that's the fact that I feel like my top my
bottom five in your My bottom five should seem
to come right after yours and that's that my
number six is also Godzilla I would not also
but my number six is Godzilla and I Thought I
would I could see this getting even higher. I
do think Godzilla is a little bit Not the name
for people in America as much it is overseas.
Like you mentioned I think when people hear Godzilla
they think of that bad role in a movie from the
1990s with Matt Matthew Broderick But that trailer
is just amazing. I think it's gonna sell a lot
of people. I Did kind of look at like Pacific
Rim though, which did not do very well last year
But I don't know if it's a true comparison. I
mean you have something like Cloverfield which
wasn't Nowhere near the top ten when it came
out But I think it did have pretty good traction
and doesn't have the budget of Godzilla doesn't
have the cast of Godzilla Also the fact it was
shaky cam so that could have stopped people from
coming So I think it's I think it has potential
being one of the biggest hits of the summer So
I I put it as my number six All right, fair enough
a lot of similarities obviously in our list.
My number six is a guess maybe If I had to say
my riskiest choice of the countdown, it's probably
my number six. Just because science fiction as
a genre is so unpredictable as to how it's going
to play out in the box office. Think science
fiction more than anything else can just completely
flap or or can just get that buzz going that
just completely goes crazy I mean we saw obviously
with something. I know it's an extreme example,
but if you look at something like Avatar You
know certain science fiction films if they get
a buzz behind them can go crazy and Certain science
fiction films can just completely tank and be
utter failures, so It's really hard to save it.
I think when you combine that with no one's name,
then maybe it's not too much of a stretch to
think that Interstellar has a good shot of breaking
into the top 10. I looked at Inception, which
had 292 million. I looked at even something on
the lower level, like I Am Legend still did 256.
So I think Interstellar has a great chance of
being somewhere between 250, you know, upwards
of, you know, Possibly even coming close to 300.
I have it more so in like the 260 265 range But
again, hopefully I think the buzz behind it with
the director and some of the stars and the trailer
so far look good So I think there is going to
be a buzz behind that so I have interstellar
being kind of my risky pick Maybe not risky but
coming in at number six. I'll just say maybe
I'm a little bit riskier with that pick I don't
know possibly coming up in the future, but My
number five, I thought about putting this maybe
lower. I thought about putting it higher. When
its original came out, not its original, but
when in 2009, or sorry, 2012, The Amazing Spider
-Man ranked number seven with 262 million that
year. So I was wondering what to do higher, but
I figured that also was a summer with The Avengers
and, you know, The Dark Knight Rises. So it kind
of stole a little bit of its thunder. So. For
my number five, I'm going Amazing Spider -Man
2. Again, the sequel of Spider -Man 2 did better
than Spider -Man, so maybe it will continue that
twin. My worry, though, is that I feel there's
a lot of negative buzz about it. No one's really
seen it yet, but I think a lot of people weren't
fans of the trailer, myself included. But it
is spider -man and spider -man brings in the
kids If you can go to any like target toy section,
you're gonna see tons of spider -man stuff like
they know how to market that character It's got
a lot of different character, you know It's got
a lot of different villains in it so that could
attract people Jamie Foxx might bring in a new
audience I didn't go to the other one. So for
my number five, I had amazing spider -man 2 It's
it's never it's never a bad thing to put some
superhero films in the top ten now very true
You always have a good shot at that Perhaps I'm
putting this one too low and I might get people
saying that This is crazy to have it this low
just because as a franchise. It's known as bringing
in tremendous money But I'm looking at the last
two of this franchise which did three hundred
and three million and then dropped the second
one all the way down to 256. I don't know if
that will be a trend. I think the third one rebounds
a little bit from that, but there was so much
hype behind Smog and some stuff about that last
Hobbit film that, you know, the second one only
doing 256 scares me a little bit. So I'm not
going to rank this one as high as you would think
people would rank the Hobbit there and back again.
I'm going to drop it all the way down to the
fifth spot. I think there are four films that
will make more money than that. Call me crazy.
And hopefully I am wrong, and it does even better,
but I have it around the $265 - $270 million
range. I'm doing a little bit better than the
last one, but not by that much, so The Hobbit
there and back again is my number five. And I'll
just say, spoiler alert, but actually I did not
include The Hobbit in my top ten. I felt worried
not including it, but I just think a lot of people
after the second one kind of gave up on the franchise,
didn't like it, and I didn't have that issue,
but I thought I'd... Do a bold choice not include
it, but that could end up be biting me in the
butt. So who knows I can hope my number four
It'll get back to one that you talked about and
I will say I agree with you that how to train
your dragon 2 will be the top Animated film of
2014. I just think it might make it a little
bit higher Just I think that is gaining popularity
with the TV show. I think that's gonna bring
in new fans The the first one did tremendous.
It didn't come out in the summer though. I think
that It came out around the time Lego movie came
out. So I think that Helped it out a great deal
and ended up making more money that way. But
again it's that it's that rule when it comes
to Animated sequels. I just tend to do better
not always but I think it won't be the case with
how to train your dragon 2 So it also has 3d
and I think how to train your dragon was a movie
people purposely saw in 3d And I think that'll
continue again with this film. So Unlike something
like Rio that doesn't really have a 3d component.
That's nearly as important So I think that's
gonna be like a huge Reason it does better and
makes it up as high. So my number four is how
to train your dragon to What is your number four?
I'm gonna go with a sequel as well for number
four and just like you I'm gonna talk about one
that's already been talked about I do think the
amazing spider -man 2 will will find itself somewhere
in our top 10 Where that is is hard to say now
if you look at the original Trilogy you had 403
373 and 336 those are all super impressive numbers
Anything over 300 million is top 50 all time
at this point in our movie history So, you know,
they have the original spider -man all three
in the franchise are basically top 50 films all
time Then we had the amazing spider -man like
you said was all the way down at 262, you know
anywhere from you know 70 to over 150 million
drop from that franchise, but like you said It
was going to get some pretty stiff competition
that really shut it out a little bit. Not saying
that there's not stiff competition here, but
we don't have the Avengers, we don't have the
Dark Knight going directly against it. And like
you said, Spider -Man is one of the most beloved
superhero characters of all time. So I see it.
possibly rebounding a little bit from the 262.
And if it's going to do better than the first
one did against that stiff competition, and the
first one did 262, that puts it somewhere between
260 and 300. And if it does that, I think it
has what it takes to crack our top five. So I'm
going to put it at our number four spot, the
Amazing Spider -Man 2. Great, great. And for
my number three, I'm talking about one that you've
talked about already. And again, this is when
I looked at the director and I'm like, OK, this
guy's box office gold. I can't put him any lower
than number three. I just can't do it. And that
is, of course, Christopher Nolan with his movie
Interstellar. I also looked at something like
Gravity. Not exact comparison. We don't know
what Interstellar is really going to be like.
But we saw there was a thirst there for science
fiction or space. with gravity, so that could
help it even more. Like you, I looked at Inception
that came out, made 292 million. Again, that's
a summer film, but it didn't necessarily feel
like a summer film. You also have Matthew McConaughey,
who could potentially be an Oscar winner by the
time that movie comes out. Right. So has a lot
going for it. Again, Nolan's a person I trust.
I think his name carries more weight to it than
I think any director going right now. You know
it because When you see the trailer, it doesn't
say from the director of Dark Knight. It says
from Christopher Nolan. He's kind of even gone
beyond. He's become like the name name brand
director like Steven Spielberg of our generation.
So I think that is a big reason this movie is
going to do as well as it did. Like I think you
could probably put another director on this movie.
Maybe it's just as good, but I don't think it'll
make nearly as much money. So that's why I went
for it for number three. Alright, a bold move
and possibly one that will pay off towards the
end of the year. I feel silly, like maybe this
is the riskiest pick I have because it's not
on your list at all, I'm guessing. I have a good
idea of what your next two are. And I don't think
this one's in there, but I just can't ignore
the money that the previous films in this franchise
have made. I did not have this in my list of
films I was looking forward to most in 2014.
Some people thought that was odd. But the first
film made 319, the second film made 402, the
third film made 352. Even if it drops 50 million
from the last one all the way down to 300, I
still think that's enough for it to break our
top five and possibly top three. Regardless of
the turmoil behind it or the people that hate
certain people involved with it I can't ignore
the money that transformers makes so I'm gonna
put transformers age of extinction at number
three Like I said, even if it's the lowest making
film out of the four Even if it drops 50 million
from the last incarnation. It's still gonna make
300 million Yeah, yeah, we'll definitely see
I oh unless it's a complete flop, which it could
be it has that potential For my number two, my
number one and my number two, I went back and
forth a lot. I was like, okay, I was strong that
these would be number one and number two, which
one I'm gonna go with first. And I ended up with
number two going with, I talked about, well,
Divergent's gonna be the next Hunger Games, or
potentially, so number two, there's a Hunger
Games movie coming out, so I'll go with that
one. You know, the Hunger Games last year was...
What are the top movies of the year? It's been
gaining in popularity. Now, I hate kind of saying
this in this context, but it's hard not to ignore
the fact that you have Phil Seymour Hoffman in
it and he's passed away that could add something
to it. I mean, it's just a franchise that keeps
going and getting bigger and getting bigger.
It's so I went with number two was Hunger Games.
I just think it's a franchise that's unsolvable
at this point, so. There is absolutely no chance
that it's not going to be in the top 10 somewhere.
So it's going to be here somewhere. It's just
where exactly will it be? And I think what you
said, too, with the unfortunate passing of Philip
Seymour Hoffman and the way that that that last
movie kind of seemed like it was revving up to
something, you know, sometimes you got to look
at when you're in a franchise that has multiple
movies, the the way. Kind of the life cycle of
that franchise and what part you're in to going
into that next film because sometimes you're
kind of on a low or sometimes you're kind of
Staying is you know standing pat and sometimes
there's that you know It seems like you're just
building and building towards that climax And
you got a little of that with that last Hunger
Games move so that could help it project into
the excitement for that next chapter So I can
definitely see what you're saying with that I
however I'm gonna be a little bit different and
with my number two The only reason I don't have
this hire is because of the franchise history
and I'm not saying the franchise has a bad history
at all but It's gonna take the leaps and bounds
for this to to get To the point where I was comfortable
putting at my number one spot My number two is
gonna be X -Men Days of Future Past now we've
had a number of films from this franchise and
None of them have made more than 230 million
We've had 157, 214, 234. If you want to count
the origins film, 179. And then with the last
X -Men film, we had 146. So even though I love
all these films and I love this franchise, they
don't seem to quite be on the same level. If
you look at the history of like a Spider -Man,
Hunger Games, Transformers, even The Hobbit,
none of them are making that much. I say that
much, they're making $200 million. It's a lot
of money. Even with that being said, I think
X -Men Days of Future Past will easily be the
biggest moneymaker of the franchise's history.
It will be leaps and bounds above all the other
ones. I put it around 310 to 320, which is 100
million more than any other film in this franchise
has ever made. But I think it breaks the 300
million mark. And maybe it has a chance of taking
that number one spot. I felt too nervous putting
it there based on the numbers that the other
films in this franchise. Put up so i'm putting
it at number two x -men days of future past Very
nice. Well, I will say this which might be I
guess I didn't expect this to be a surprising
but maybe it is I did not include that in my
top 10 Mainly because of the past history that
you mentioned I looked at x -men first class,
which did now 100 nearly 150 million Wolverine
last summer did not do very well either did well,
but not nearly all that tremendous and Maybe
with the joining of two cast it will change,
but I guess I was a little bit apprehensive with
that past history I think it's gonna do amazingly
well, but being in jam -packed summer with a
lot of competition going on I just felt I don't
know I was a little bit I Didn't know if there's
enough there for it to make That much more than
its predecessors, but I could be wrong. It could
be wrong I would not be against me being wrong
because I am highly looking forward to that well
now I am very much looking forward to seeing
whatever your number one is Well, I actually
have no clue. Well, I guess my number one is
and I want To me this is uh, I guess this is
maybe risky. I didn't think it was risky. I feel
like I missed one No, you didn't like I missed
a film somewhere. It's one that you've already
talked about. It's a Transformers agent extension.
I think it'll be the number one movie of the
year Will be good. Who knows but I just transformers
films are huge and again You have IMAX considering
you want the fact that this franchise is just
Everyone seems not to like the movies, but yet
everyone goes to them and they just get bigger
and bigger and bigger You have Mark Wahlberg
now, and I think that's gonna be huge. I think
He makes a lot. He has a box office draw to him
to certain extent look at lone survivor Look
at how all that's in maybe not just of him But
I mean he's had bad movies here and there that
haven't done well, but he you know He'd look
at something like Ted that brought in a lot of
money. So He does have, you know, a lot of fans.
He also has a reality TV show going on right
now, which I still don't understand. But Michael,
and it's going to have, I think that the dino
factor of the, you know, the dino botch, I think
it's going to be huge. I think that could bring
in a lot of kids, like the Transformers movies
always do. Couldn't I couldn't find any research.
I tried to find out if it was in 3d or not, but
I wasn't able I didn't say it was so I don't
know if that's for sure The last one was so I
would assume this one would be too But so that's
something I also considered 3d IMAX. That's it's
you know increased ticket prices So I see that
happening. So for my number one, I went with
Transformers each of extinction. So I'm curious
to find out what your number one is My number
one like yours was one that you had already talked
about as well. You know, if you look at the past,
just as far as which films have made the most
money, it's no shock to see Transformers up there.
You know, we both listed Amazing Spider -Man,
which as a franchise does amazing. You know,
I had The Hobbit on there, which has made a lot
of money. Um, but I obviously can't ignore and
I haven't listed it yet. So I would have to list
it at number one because otherwise I'd be a fool
not to have it in my top 10. Uh, and that would
be the Hunger Games, Mockingjay part one. Like
I said, I just think the, the, um, the direction
that those movies are going leads more people
in to be excited for this one with the ending
of the last Hunger Games film. I think the way
that it left, you double that with the death
of Philip Seymour Hoffman. You look at the 423
and 408 million that the last two films have
done. I think this has a chance to be, at this
point, the highest of the franchise. And if those
were at 408 and 423, that puts this one possibly,
I think, at the highest one, which could be 430.
I just don't know if any film will have enough
to beat that. You know, when you're looking at
a film in the 430s, now you're talking top 10
of all time. And I don't think we're going to
see two films next year that are both going to
be in our top 10 of all time. We could. It could
be that type of year, because if you look at
Transformers, the highest one of that franchise
ranks 18th. The highest Hunger Games right now
ranks 11th. So they could be going back and forth
against each other. Maybe I'm the fool for throwing
X -Men in there when that franchise has not done
well historically, as far as the... type of level
we're talking about. They obviously have all
been successful. So yeah, I have Hunger Games,
Mockingjay Part 1 at my number one. Very nice.
Interesting to see that a lot of similarities
in our list, just differences in where we put
it. There's only two differences. I have X -Men
and The Hobbit ranked, and you have Rio 2 and
Divergent ranked. So outside of that, the other
eight films that we have are identical, just
different in placement. Very true. I'll just
run down my top 10 one more time real quick.
My number 10 was Divergent, like you mentioned.
Number 9, Rio 2, 8 with LEGO, 7, Captain America,
Winter Soldier, 6, Godzilla, 5, Amazing Spider
-Man, 4, How to Train Your Dragon, 2, 3, Interstellar,
2, The Hunger Games, and number 1, I had Transformers.
And for me, it was number 10, Captain America
Winter Soldier, number nine, The Lego Movie,
number eight, Godzilla, number seven, How to
Train Your Dragon 2, number six, Interstellar,
number five, The Hobbit There and Back Again,
number four, The Amazing Spider -Man 2, number
three, Transformers Age of Extinction, number
two, X -Men Days of Future Past, and number one,
Hunger Games Mockingjay Part One. Looking at
the list overall and some of the films we left
off of it, You know, we both have How to Train
Your Dragon 2 as the highest animated film. The
other ones we have listed are the LEGO movie.
And then you had Rio 2. Is there a chance that
a sleeper like Big Hero 6 could surpass any of
those? Or do you think we have the top three
animated films listed? I don't see any of them.
I mean, I could see Box Trolls possibly doing
well, but it's also with stop motion. So probably
not. I don't see any of those. Dominating something
like How do you train your dragon too? I think
it's gonna be impossible at this point. They
may do well You know what we we might see someone
like be a surprise hit Like I think Despicable
Me 2 was a lot better than people expected, but
I don't see them anything coming close to those
two now And then I talked about possibly needing
to have that 200 million mark in order to make
it top 10. I did have one other film on my list
making 200 million, but not being in the top
10. 300 Rise of an Empire, I think, has an outside
shot of breaking that 200 million mark, the first
300 at 210. But that's a sequel. I don't know
if that does better or if that actually goes
back a step. So have to wait and see any other
big ones that you wanted to mention that didn't
quite make your list that you were considering
heavily I This one I was questioning but I I
didn't know way which way was gonna go and that
was Maleficent I thought you know, you look at
something like Alice in Wonderland that thing
made a billion dollars But some of the other
live -action fairy tale movies Jack the giant
killer The Snow White films that came out like
Mirror Mirror and Snow White and the Huntsmen,
they didn't do anywhere near that. So I would
guess it probably would fall in the middle someplace
with something like Angelina Jolie, but I think
that has potential. With that, I looked at Snow
White and the Huntsman, which made 155, and I
looked at Oz from last year at 235. I don't know
why I felt like that was a similar audience possibly.
So that's going from 155 to 235. If it does as
well as Oz the Great and Powerful, then you have
a case for that being in the top 10. If it falls
down to where Snow White and the Huntsman is,
then it's definitely not going to make the top
10. So that's kind of a tricky one. Yeah. That's
why I was a little bit, I'm going to go with
put that off because I think it's a little bit
too much of a risk. This was a huge wild card.
It may not come anywhere close, but I know there's
a huge love for this book, and I know a lot of
you have been talking about it. I know a lot
of people, it's also coming from a director that
a lot of people love, and that's Gone Girl. I
think sometimes you have those hits that come
out of nowhere, like Gravity last year. Again,
nothing at all close to one another, but it has
a fandom built into it. Sometimes you see those
novels that become adaptations of movies, and
then they're Take off so That to me was one of
those just like stab in the dark Maybe this one
has a chance but I'd end up not putting in my
top 10 because I thought it was too much of a
stab in the dark I can see that Some other kind
of big franchise names that I was looking at.
I just didn't think possibly might not stack
up You know, we didn't talk about Guardians of
the Galaxy. I really that's that is a wild card
I absolutely don't know where that one's gonna
fall You know, like we said, if you're looking
at the other Marvel films, Captain America, the
first one was at about 176. Thor ranges from
180 to 200, but the Hulk film was down by 134.
I don't know where Guardians of the Galaxy falls
in that spectrum. Yeah, yeah, that was tough.
I felt it would probably... I don't see it making
any more than Thor or Captain America. I would
think it makes maybe around the amount of Incredible
Hulk, just because it's such an odd film. That
I think it's gonna be hard sell for a lot of
people the fact that you have a raccoon With
a gun and a talking tree. It's gonna be a little
bit difficult. That's like hard science fiction
So like you said previously science fiction is
kind of hard to tell what's gonna do well and
what's not so speaking of science fiction that
kind of scared me a little bit because I had
a couple that I was considering. I did rank interstellar.
I was very heavily considering Divergent like
you had. I even looked at like a Jupiter Ascending
or Transcendence and some of those, but I'm just
too scared to put too many science fiction films
on that list. I was also scared to put Teenage
Mutant Ninja Turtles on the list. I didn't realize,
but the original live action way back in the,
whatever it was, 1990, I actually did 135. Which
I was surprised that it did that much so this
one maybe has a chance to be you know more than
that somewhere in the 150 175 range I just don't
think it's gonna have quite enough to break it.
I also didn't think You know the original Planet
of the Apes well not the original but the the
most recent Planet of the Apes was at 176 It
did have a lot of buzz after that it was very
well received so I can see the second one doing
better than that and If you're doing better than
176 you might have a shot I just had it just
slightly falling out any other ones you wanted
to bring up Also thought about the hercules movie
not the one that came out but the one that's
coming out with the rock just because we know
how much Pull the rock has so I thought about
it, but I didn't think there's anything really
enough for us to go off of it's not necessarily
an original property, but It's too hard. I fall
it kind of compared it to like Melissa Melissa
Finn like I Didn't feel strongly enough to put
it there, but I think it could be a dark horse.
It does really well I couldn't find anything
to compare Noah or access to really I don't think
they compared a passion of the Christ By any
means and I don't know if you can compare it
to something like the gladiator I'd really couldn't
find anything to compare those two So it was
too much of a shot in the dark for me to rank
those two And I also didn't know with like a
movie like Need for Speed You know Fast and the
Furious is a well -built, you know long -lasting
franchise I don't think Need for Speed can come
in and immediately achieve that Um, but I guess
there is that fan base out there for that type
of movie. And another thing, nobody, uh, you
or myself have not ranked any in our top 10 or
even talked about is there's, there's not a single
comedy amongst it. And I know comedies don't
make a ton of money. Um, but if you look at like
every once in a while, there is that comedy that
comes out, like a hangover or wedding crashers
that, that does break the 200 million mark. Do
you think there's any comedies that have even
close to the potential of doing that this next
year? I personally didn't see any I know there's
hunger or not hunger games to a horrible horrible
horrible bosses to I Don't see it happening when
we talk about trailers. There's that movie Tammy
coming out So we know how much mean Melissa McCarthy
makes a lot of money for her film so possibly
but I don't know I'd nothing Comedy wise it seemed
like it again. Another not a strong year at least
box -office wise I looked at Dumb and Dumber
2 or Night of the Museum 3 as possibilities,
but I just couldn't put them in my top 10. All
right. But yeah, so it'll be fun kind of going
down and comparing these at the end of the year.
So I'll be cheering very hard for Divergent when
it comes out. Hopefully it lives up to my expectations.
All right. Anything else before we get into this
week's headlines? No, hopefully you guys enjoyed
that and you can track them along with us. Like
I said, we'll be checking in each week and as
these films release and seeing how, you know,
it'll be a little more exciting to see those
opening week numbers and to see, you know, now
that we know what we're looking for, you know,
as far as some targets possibly being that 200
million mark, et cetera, for ending up in the
top 10. Yeah, very, very true. So I know this
weekend was a little bit late on headlines, but
why don't you get us kicked off by having us
look at what happened this past week. Yeah, last
week we had a lot of news and this week we didn't.
That's just all there is to it. We're gonna start
off with an interesting note there about one
of the films that we briefly mentioned there,
which is Darren Aronofsky's Noah. Apparently
there was different cuts of that one being...
Sent out as far as gauging audience response,
etc. And at one point they were maybe gonna go
without his cut of it Which I guess angered him
a lot, but it seems like the studio Paramount
we're talking about has decided that they are
going to release his cut of Noah which I believe
it said it was two hours and 12 minute cut getting
the nod for the release So I always think it's
good when the director gets their wishes because
they're the ones that are Putting the vision
together and if you slice and dice and stuff
like that, it's just never fair to them Yeah,
I always feel like if you if the cut that comes
out is not the director's vision When you like
critique it it almost comes with an asterisk
because you feel like you're not watching the
movie That was meant to be made. So I agree Also,
talking about some headlines as far as another
film that is on the radar as being made, John
Singleton is tagged to write, produce, and direct
a Tupac biopic. So a long -planned project finally
up and running. What do you think about that
one? It makes sense. You know, he's an iconic
figure tragic ending, of course, so I'm gonna
get um, can they get kevin hart to play tupac?
Because that'll that'll ensure success Maybe
one of his friends. It'll be like good bucks.
He'll play uh, easy or whatever. Uh, who was
in nwa with I just up my street cred with that
one. And it was originally going to be Antoine,
I can never say his last name, who had directed
Olympus, has fallen most recently and now being
John Singleton. How do you feel about his work?
Obviously he did Too Fast Too Furious, Shaft,
Boys in the Hood. How do you think as far as
him being the one tag for this film? Well, I
mean he had a great decade in the 90s with like
boys in the hood like you mentioned Lately nothing
fantastic, but I don't know Based upon like his
stuff in the 90s like he was very much in that
culture You represented it well then so I can
kind of see that I could see why they would go
his route But I just hope it's better than stuff.
He's putting putting out recently All right And
talking about two franchises that I can never
keep straight as far as what's coming out, what's
not coming out. One would be the Peter Pan franchise,
and the other one's Tarzan. I can never... keep
straight what's going on with these franchises.
But apparently Warner has set a 2016 release
date for the film entitled Tarzan 3D. The film
will arrive July 1st, 2016 is what it's saying.
Now let's not get too excited and project what
it will be going against. We don't know. Apparently
Alexander Skarsgard is on board to play Tarzan
with Margot Robbie from Wolf of Wall Street signed
on to play Jane. Samuel L. Jackson and Kristoff
Waltz are also confirmed to co -star. And according
to the article David Yates set to set behind
the camera for the first time since his quote
marathon stint directing the last four Harry
Potter films. Now, again, this set to go head
to head against Independence Day 2. We'll see.
But talk about some names there. Skarsgard, Robbie,
Samuel L. Jackson, Christoph Waltz. Maybe I should
be paying more attention to this film. Possibly.
I feel like Samuel L. Jackson is like in every
movie. So really. Yeah, I guess. I don't know.
Tarzan. You talked about Peter Pan and like Tarzan.
It just it's not a name that like, oh, yeah,
you know, the Tarzan movie. I remember watching
some of the classic ones back in the day, but
I was always more of a fan as a kid of George
of the Jungle because he was funny. Not that
that movie was very good, but yeah, it could
be good. It's funny. I feel like 2016 is now
getting filled up with all this stuff. You know,
we already have Batman and Superman there. We
have you like you mentioned The film that's going
out against so independence day independence
day to Tarzan 3d though Tarzan 3d could be really
cool Like if it's done, right and I like David
H in his work on the Harry Potter movies I thought
he did a fantastic job with those Alright well
not a lot of casting news just one piece that
I know will find one person at the network a
very excited Apparently Chris Pratt and Danny
McBride, or maybe he's not won't be excited I
don't know what he feels about these two individuals,
but they are to star in a Knight Rider movie
According to this article that is dream casting
So I don't know what that means exactly So yeah
proposed adaptation of Knight Rider according
to these two Chris Brandon McBride and I'm saying
or it's saying that Pratt is in line to take
on David Hasselhoff's role as Michael Knight
with McBride Being the voice of kit, which is
what they're rumoring that to be. What do you
think? So kit won't be nearly as elegant as he
was back in the day when he was voiced by mr.
Feeney from Boy Meets World, right? I guess it
sounds like it's going to go that route when
we do the remakes of the 80s properties where
it's more comedic if it's going to be voiced
by Danny McBride. He's okay in my book. I'm not
the biggest Danny McBride fan. I think he works
well. I thought he was really funny in This is
the End because he was kind of playing like a
joke of himself. But I do feel like he gets a
little bit tiresome at times. But maybe if he's
only a voice, it won't be too bad. I mean, I
just say I'm not huge on the Knight Rider franchise.
I watched the show a little bit back in the 80s.
I wasn't a humongous fan of it, but I don't know
if I can see either of these people in that role
unless you say like they're gonna take some other
type of weird angle towards it which I don't
think would go over very well, but maybe I'm
wrong because it seems to have done well with
21 Jump Street and a couple other films like
that. So I just don't see Chris Pratt as Michael
Knight and I don't see McBride. I don't see the
logic behind him being the voice of kids. Yeah,
I I like you I was never a big knight writer
for a fan Do I think we need the movie? No, not
really. But uh, I mean, can't you get David Hasselhoff?
It's not like he's doing anything else. But doesn't
have a son or something. I don't know He definitely
isn't doing anything else But, uh, so that's
the only other casting news, so we're just gonna
do a bit of trailer talk. There was actually
quite a few trailers that came out, a few of
them were just updated versions of trailers that
were already released, so we won't talk as much
about them. But if you're interested in any of
these trailers, and then we'll talk about them
a little bit, but Two Faces of January, The Double,
Under the Skin, a new trailer for Transcendence,
Brick Mansion, Tammy, Think Like a Man, Authors
Anonymous, The Love Punch, The Bag Man, another
one for Nymphomaniac, and Drive Hard. as well
as an updated one for Joe. Which ones of those
caught your attention? Actually, the one that
really caught my attention the most was Joe.
It looks like Nicolas Cage is actually going
to do acting again, which is nice. He's not done
that in a while. It's coming from David Gordon
Green, who It was kind of on a downward slope.
It came back last year with Princess Avalanche,
which I thought was really good. Also, it was
Ty Sheridan, who was in Mud, who I thought was
excellent in Mud. So I'm super stoked for that
movie. I'm kind of thinking, like, I probably
should have put that in my most anticipated,
because I think that looks really good. But did
you get a chance to see that one? Yeah, that
was one that I saw the original spot for it.
I talked briefly about it last week. It did seem
interesting. I could see that, you know, I kind
of made it an analogy to Labor Day in a bit as,
you know, when Josh Brolin is basically a convict
that's somewhat playing a role model father figure
to a child. This reminded me of that a little
bit. So I'm definitely interested in that. Which
other ones caught your attention? The double,
which looks really It starts Jesse Eisenberg
and the trailer is really like odd in a good
way like it's hard to really even understand
what's going on with it really and you just hear
like a voiceover and A lot of scenes that are
kind of between like you'd really have no idea
what the plot is or anything like that Very existential
very kind of cryptic with what it's doing That's
also interesting because in that trailer certain
times they would when they were introducing each
actor Some of them they were showing twice Yeah,
the name flashed twice and some of them it didn't
and with the name being the double and I know
it's something to do with at least Jesse Eisenberg's
having like a Double, you know body double of
some sort. I don't know if there's gonna be multiple
characters that have that or if it's just a one
There's a lot of mystery behind that one. Yeah
that to me looks pretty interesting. I I'm kind
of very intrigued by that like it like I have
no idea what it's gonna be like but The trailer
has me interested Two films that will obviously
do well in the box office, since we've been talking
about it. Tammy, like you said, and then probably
Think Like a Man, too, for the actors and actresses
involved. But I thought both of those trailers
looked decent. I mean, Tammy looked like it had
the potential to be funny. And I think Think
Like a Man will do well. Yeah, it actually wasn't
that bad. Didn't I saw thinking like a man the
first one and it surprised me. It was better
than I expected Nothing amazing, but I thought
it was fine and I did laugh a good deal at Tammy.
I'm not gonna lie It's more of a scene than a
trailer, but It's Melissa McCarthy doing her
thing. So And that can be funny if done, right?
So and I think that's actually directed by your
husband, which is kind of interesting interesting
The brick mansion of course starring Paul Walker
So that'll be interesting to see how that does.
I thought authors anonymous looked pretty lame
As well as drive hard, I don't know if I can
take that one serious as well I don't know if
they're trying to sound like die hard So that
I'm like is driving up and die hard combining
And the one that did seem like it could be kind
of quirky interesting but could also be awful
was the the love punch with if I'm getting that
one right, that's the one with Emma Thompson
and James Bond. You have Pierce Brosnan? Yeah.
I don't know. It looked like it could be kind
of quirky and interesting, but it could also
be awful. To go back to the Brick Mansion movie,
that's actually a remake of a movie I really
like a lot, which is District B -13. It's on
Netflix right now. It's actually a French action
film, but it's... I know like every movie now
in action has parkour, but the guy who was actually
in the remake too, he's like this parkour master
or whatever, but some of the stunts in action
in that are just awesome to watch. It's a really,
it's like one of the fastest movies I've ever
seen because it just never stops moving. So I,
I'm like, I had no idea they were making an American
remake of it. I completely missed that. So I
don't know how good it's going to be, but that
has me intrigued just because I love the original
property a lot. I still can't get a good read
on Under the Skin or Transcendence. I'm still
up in the air on those two, but I was interested
to see what your take was. Vito Mortensen, Kirsten
Dunst, Oscar Isaac, all involved with Two Faces
of January. Do you think that had any potential
whatsoever? I do. I guess it's based on the person
who wrote a novel, the same guy who wrote The
Talented Mr. Ripley. I don't know. It looks like
it could be good. It could also just be dry and
stereotypical and just... paint by numbers, but
I like the actors that are in it. So I do think
it has potential. All right. Well, if you want
to see the trailers for any of those films, there'll
be links to them in our episode posts. You can
click on those and take a look, or you can give
us your opinions on some of those trailers that
we talked about, which ones you're looking forward
to the most. Definitely, definitely. And when
we come back, we'll be talking about the latest
remake of Robocop. So we'll see you in a bit.
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He's undoing what we did to him. Thank you for
your cooperation. Alright and welcome back. Like
I mentioned, we're gonna be talking about the
remake of Robocop coming out directed by Jose
Padilla. I think I'm pronouncing that probably
incorrectly, but it's starring Joel Canaham,
Gary Oldman, Michael Keaton, and a few others.
But I guess before we start talking about the
new Robocop, probably a good idea to just discuss...
the old RoboCop and if we were a fan never really
got into it if we liked the movie all that great
stuff so do you have any fondness or any recollection
of the original RoboCop movie? I mean I remember
seeing it it was kind of along that same time
period when stuff like Terminator and Total Recall
and you know there was that 80s time period when
sci -fi was running rampant And they all have
that just that same feel to them, which is not
bad. But it's just kind of that feel where we
were still in a time period from a technical
standpoint where these films could not. Some
of them, some of them looked very well done.
But, you know, we're kind of in that limbo where
it wasn't like when you see science fiction films
from back, like in the, you know, like the 60s
or the 70s, where they just look ridiculous.
The 90s had that time where they were starting
to look believable, but not to the point where
we're at now. I mean, I guess this is something
you can always say, you know, every 10, 20 years,
it's going to be able to look better and better.
But but they didn't have that. I'm not going
to say cheese factor, but they had that just
something about it where you didn't necessarily
take them super serious. You just watched them
and let yourself have fun with them and escape
and just enjoy them. I have them all on DVD.
I did not. Like I wanted to, I wish I would have
had more time because I really wanted to rewatch
the originals before I saw this. Instead, I'm
going to have to rewatch them afterwards so I
can catch up on how the originals went exactly
because it's been a long time since I've seen
all of them from beginning to end. But I didn't
dislike them. They weren't like my favorite films
of all time. I definitely had films during that
time period that I liked better. But I do remember
seeing the original RoboCop maybe a couple years
ago and still enjoying it and thinking it was
fine, you know, and a fun adventure. So I went
into this one with neither high or low expectations.
I kind of went in neutral, remembering that,
yeah, I liked the old ones, but they weren't
like fantastic, but they weren't awful. So I
kind of was expecting something along those lines.
Interesting. Yeah, when I was. Kid, I remember
liking Robocop, but I don't know if I ever saw
it. I think I just liked the idea of the fact
that it was called Robocop. I think I saw it
on TV or so because I remember watching it like
you a year or two ago. Again, I recently saw
Robocop 2 again, but I have in Robocop and realizing
as a kid, I don't think I watched this version
of it because it's so much more violent than
when I saw it as a kid. And I don't think I got
it. Obviously, when I was a kid, I just liked
it because it was called Robocop. I didn't really
get the fact that Peter von Hoeven was doing
a satirical take on the action of that day. I
think a lot of people didn't. When you look at
his style of attracting, he very much is not...
He's giving you a... a movie that's very layered.
And I think as an adult, I appreciate that movie
so much more. How its violence gets so ridiculous
and over the top that it almost becomes comedic
in a way and how smartly written it is and how
it's a lot of great deal of social commentary
and the satire is really on point. But you can
also just appreciate it as an action film, a
science film. And like you mentioned, some of
the special effects are... You know don't hold
up amazingly well, especially like Ed 209 with
the stop -motion animation that they kind of
used for that It's in I always find it really
funny where you see a scene of that character
like trying to go upstairs and suddenly it's
like on its back and for no apparent reason There's
like a tiger roaring in the background. Like
it's supposed to be making that noise. I just
found that kind of odd So I do have a high respect
for Robocop The sequel of RoboCop 2 is kind of
nothing fantastic. It's kind of take it or leave
it. Hasn't been much, but nothing bad. I haven't
had a chance to rewatch RoboCop 3. I remember
as a kid liking it, but I think I just liked
it because it was RoboCop, I'm sure, because
all I hear is horrible things about it. So I've
always wanted to go back and rewatch it. But
like you, I'll have to do that afterwards. So
I guess then the question is, how do you With
having very limited or kind of open up expectations
with 20 with this remake. How do you feel it?
It did You know, like I said, I didn't go in
with high expectations or low expectations and
the film I will say then met my expectations
It wasn't something I was upset about It wasn't
something I was jumping up and down about I thought
you know from a visual standpoint I thought they
did a lot of things well I thought they did a
good job of updating things but still Capturing
the classic look and feel for the most part I
Think Michael Keaton was fine in that role for
the most part Acting wise maybe the highlight
of the film Is that fair to say I don't know
I'm not gonna be able to go into my major problems
that I have as much because it would be complete
spoilers But I do have some major problems with
how the ending is played out. Let me just say
this way. One of my favorite parts of the original
RoboCop films was the fact that obviously we're
dealing with... Well, I mean, I like the concept
overall. I like the whole idea of the whole man
versus machine thing and how you balance that,
et cetera. But in the original one, you know,
obviously he has certain programs that are in
place And I absolutely remember loving the part
and I'll have to rewatch this to see exactly
how that sequence goes down but where there is
a an individual that basically he can't Do what
he wants to do because there's a program that
prevents him from doing it But one of my favorite
parts of that original film is then humans obviously
I don't know, kind of touched on a bunch of flaws,
I guess, of human nature. Number one, arrogance,
I guess. Or number two, the idea that we're ultimately
smarter than everything else, or that we can
outsmart or outfox things. And the fact that
then that human character does something which
bypasses the programming in a RoboCop, which
now makes him a criminal, which now allows the
RoboCop to do what he needs to do. The situation
presented itself for them to do something very
similar in this film and they chose not to and
I didn't quite understand why and I didn't like
How they did it instead if that makes sense?
Yeah, actually kind of know where you're going
and I can kind of go off that because There were
stuff in this movie that surprised me it was
It started off better than I anticipated, but
to kind of go off what you were saying, I think
the biggest thing it lacked was that thing like
that. How they solve that issue is there's really
very little reason for it. Things just kind of
happen. And I think that's probably a big issue
with me. I had with like the last, I would say.
30 minutes or so where you lose progression of
the story and things just kind of start happening
and There is little to no reason at times. It
just seems to kind of fit and I do think they
got the character of rebel comp, right? I think
they got his I liked his look I know there's
a lot of people when like the first images came
out that they were like, oh it looks really stupid
It looks really dumb, but I think it fit it's
a little bit more sleek. I liked how they kind
of Played all my homage to the original with
like the gray look in the beginning and then
they updated it But I liked it. I thought if
it fine the motorcycle thing. I thought was pretty
cool, too So I thought they got Robocop right,
but I think they got the world the world he resides
in kind of wrong and just If you the premise
of the story really is like the idea that Robocop
is supposed to be created to try to make Americans
feel More welcoming towards robots being on the
streets because it's a market that they're not
tapping into it's in the trailer You can see
that, you know, there's robots across the world
That America has put in different countries to
kind of secure those areas, but they're not allowed
in the United States So let's get rebel cop to
kind of fix that and I guess I just didn't feel
like it sold that idea very well or I thought
the movie lacked an antagonist I minus you know,
minus the person who helps create RoboComp. I
felt like there wasn't really someone really
to get kind of angry with. We talked about Michael
Keaton's character and I liked his character.
I thought he was a nice character, but I don't,
I guess I felt like I don't have an enemy that
this film was going towards or I don't see like
the point. I think it kind of loses a huge amount
of steam near the end. Once like RoboComp kind
of starts rewriting his program like you mentioned
it I don't know it just kind of loses its steam
and I'm just like I don't know where this is
going like where are you going with this and
it just I don't know it felt really flat for
me I think I agree with a lot of things you said
there actually almost everything I agree with
the visual part of it as far as the suit and
the look I think they got it right I don't understand
what people were complaining about for me it
Like I said, it does the updating and modernizing
it with still keeping it the same. I think obviously
there's two different colors that people go back
and forth about, but I think that was done well
too as far as how that played out. And I was
on board with especially the first, I don't know,
I'm just saying, I don't know exactly timestamps,
but I'm saying like the first half. I like how
they introduce his character. I like how they
introduce the suit. Um, I like how they showed
kind of him, you know, um, in and out of the
suit, I guess you can say. Um, and I thought
they set up things, you know, well, and that,
you know, he was going to have to deal with,
uh, avenging obviously what happened to him.
That's not spoiling anything. Um, and that he
was dealing with, you know, the idea of being
robo cop and being part of that suit. But I think
what they missed is, like you said, the world
that he's in. They have one scene where he's
being unveiled, announced, where he isn't able
to enforce the law right on the spot. I thought
it needed more of that. It needed more of him
dealing with society at some point first. Because
basically, they have this figure who's going
to be the new look of law enforcement, making
our streets safe. but they don't really touch
any they do such a quick job of showing that
purpose before he is immediately into the main
plot line of the vengeance and everything where
I didn't get enough of I think one thing that
was cool about the original RoboCops is they
showed a believable, well believable as much
as you can believe it I guess, but a believable
reality of how they would actually be as a police
officer. And I don't think we got the police
officer part of this enough in this film Yeah,
that's very true. Like he just kind of I feel
you you got more of his story beforehand like
more of who Alex Murphy was But you got less
of like what Robocop was and and I think they
just I think it's too easy to just be like oh,
we're changing, you know the levels of certain
drugs or proteins or food or dopamine or whatever
it is I don't know if I just enjoy that part
because it makes, I don't know. As soon as they
started doing that, I felt like the movie started
going downhill. Not because of that, but because
it became too much of a focus of we're just turning
them on and off type of thing. I don't know,
I want more of the actual struggle between the
human and the machine. And I can't deal with
just the fact that, oh, he's part human so he
can just override everything at any time. Yeah,
yeah, it's it kind of hinted at it like there's
a line like oh what is his soul cuz there's like
there's a factor we can control But it did it
did lack it felt like a really easy write -off.
It's like always human So he's rewriting it why
can you rewrite it? Well, it's because of the
human factor and that's it like that's that's
the reasoning you get behind it and see and I
think it would have been better if You know,
like I said like the original one where either
someone does something where all sudden it's
within the programming or he as a human aspect
of him can can trick somebody into doing something
that then makes his program accept it. I thought
more of that needed to be there. And on a completely
different note, I mentioned Michael Keaton as
being one of the highlights. I don't want to
go without saying that Gary Oldman did a fine
job as well. Yeah, yeah. He was a lot of fun.
It was weird. I felt like his character in a
way. I talked about how there wasn't really a
villain in it. And I kind of felt like his character
was maybe the Biggest villain in some instances
like he I think was kind of brought into like
the situation. He played like a doctor and But
he does a lot of questionable things But then
he kind of you know, there's progression there
and I'm like, well, he's kind of like the person
I felt like most of the negative stuff that happens
to a dreadful copper beat was because of him
and I felt like that one unresolved I do want
to say though. How did you feel that? Robocop
himself, Joel Kinnaman did in that role. I thought
he was fine. I don't think he was the problem.
I don't think the people that were involved actor
-wise were the problem. I don't think the characters
that were involved necessarily were the problem.
I think it was more so the choices that were
made by the writing slash directing team and
what those... people and what those characters
would be doing. I think the setup was there.
I think you had the people in place. I think
you had the characters in place. I think you
had the actors that fit those characters fine
to pull it off, minus either needing more development
with a few of those characters, like you said,
in order to have that antagonist. I think there
was a couple potential people there that if they
would have done it right or else you had to add
someone else or something. Yeah, I think the
people were in place. I just don't know if they
did the right things with them I think they did
for half the movie and they set it all up well
And then I just think it goes off kilter and
kind of spirals out of control Yeah, like I like
what they were setting up that they they seem
to have like Robocop when he's established has
a more humanity to him There's he isn't just
like this Robocop with no, you know, it's monotone
and he's He's just you know, you know a robot
with somewhat human like they kind of started
him off where he's a little bit different He
is has more human qualities He he has that edge
to him and I thought that'd be interesting road
to go down where you have this man who literally
is barely together anymore and put together with
just pieces of robot and You know what that means
and what you could do with that But like you
said they kind of just abandoned that with you
know this idea of dopamine. It's okay. We're
gonna get rid of that and go back to what the
old Robocop was and I think you just ended up
losing your, potentially your best angle with
the movie and just going back and becoming just,
you know, trying to do what the other Robocop
movie did but not doing it as well. I guess the
other big question is it is RoboCop. So the question
is well, was it fun? How was the action? How
did you feel like the action was? Did you enjoy
that most of the action scenes? Did they stand
out to you in any way? Yeah, I did for the most
part I thought Nothing that like wowed me so
to speak But I enjoyed mostly action scenes.
I enjoyed the idea that you really got to feel
for the weight of his outfit, etc. I did think
towards the climactic, I guess, action scene.
At one point that it could have been built up
a little bit better, it seemed like it was kind
of happened and there wasn't really a lot of
buildup towards it. But overall, I thought they
did a good job showing his suit, his weaponry.
Um, and especially in the training scenes, they
did a good job of kind of explaining. I really
liked, I did like that part about it where they
were really comparing him to the, um, the pure
machines. And I thought at that point, everything
in the movie was going well. And I thought all
that was excellent stuff to show. And that was
kind of building up the potential. Um, and I
liked the training sequences with him, you know,
kind of the live training and stuff. So I thought
all that was good. I thought maybe there was
a few times, like I said, at the end where the
action could have been a little bit more built
up as far as certain deaths or certain things
like that. But other than that, it was fine.
Yeah. Actually, like you said, the training sequence
I thought was a lot of fun. I thought that was
pretty cool. I thought it was shot well. The
director also, this is the first time he's directing
an American film. I have not seen the elite squad
films, which are these cop drama films from Take
Place in Brazil, and I've heard amazing things
about them, but I've unfortunately not seen them.
So I was curious how he would transition into,
you know, an American movie. And I thought the
action was strong for the most part. Like you
said, there are some issues. And I apologize
one of my favorite actually action scenes was
one of the first ones Where it's just Alex Murphy
and his partner trying to like fight their way
out of this restaurant. I thought that was shot
really well. I liked The angles that the camera
was using I thought it was like a common situation,
but done really well So I'm like, oh, I kind
of like this a little more grittier than I expected
A little it felt a little bit more realistic
than I was anticipating But it goes away from
that, which I'm not surprised because you're
suddenly dealing with a rebel cop. So you're
not going to have that type of action. But I
did like that. There were moments I liked. I
liked the interface, like the using of first
person shooting. I did like there was a specific
scene that's like at night, not nighttime, but
it's dark. So it's a lot of night vision. I like
that. I thought that was probably after that
moment is when the movie kind of lost me. I liked
that moment, but then it just it just didn't
know where to go after that. And I think after
everything after that was just lesser than. And
if anything like he could have ended the movie
there, I probably would have liked it more. So,
yeah, no, I agree. So overall, I mean, if you
were people always like the scores here for your
given given this one score, where would you land
at? At the end of the day, like I said, I think
they think the thing they got right was. Robocop,
but they got so much else wrong and like the
last I Would say last half like when you're half
of your movie isn't successful and your first
half isn't amazing I can't give you a passing
grade So I went back and forth with this one,
but I if I was gonna give this an actual grade
I would give it a two out of five. So that's
You know didn't like it. Basically. I it just
did not completely work for me to be fair it
That could have been a lot worse if anything,
so how about yourself? It definitely could have
been worse and I don't like the fact that I'm
gonna say that I've given her a name that says
didn't like necessarily because I do think they
did a lot of stuff right and they did a lot of
things that Were good and they made a lot of
wise choices at the beginning of the film But
yeah, there's just way too much that kind of
spirals like I said out of control to give it
a passing grade So I'm laying in the same as
you I'm giving that two out of five All right,
so that's two two out of fives for us and If
you agree or disagree with our takes, let us
know in our comment section below. And we'll
also leave all the different ways of the feedback
at the end of the episode. But before we go,
we also want to take a look at the movies that
will be coming out in theater as well as DVD
and Blu -ray. And it is a slow week, to say the
least, coming out in theater. Not a great deal.
You do have Kevin Costner's attempt of becoming
Liam Neeson in Three Days to Kill. Also, you
have Pompeii, the disaster film, which I think
you might know the ending towards. I'm a little
curious. I'm just kind of curious how are you
going to make that into a movie when you kind
of know. Also, Opening Limited, which will be
expanding shortly, is the Wren Wise Rises, which
got a lot of claim last year for it being...
It was nominated for Golden Globe for best foreign
film and it looks like it was one of the best
animated films for a lot of people last year.
We'll finally get a chance to see it. Anything
else coming in theater that interests you at
all? No, I will go ahead and take advantage this
week and see either another film that's in the
theater from a few weeks ago that I haven't seen
yet or some films at home and I will save my
money until there's not another release coming
out until... the last release date of the month
when Stalingrad comes out on the 28th that I
might see. Yeah, it's a slow, you know, it's
that type of year or that time of year where
it's not a lot great coming out. And then, of
course, DVD and Blu -ray, unfortunately, is not
that much better. I guess on the bright side,
there are stuff coming out next week. So save
your money this weekend because next week it's
going to be a doozy. I don't know why they didn't
decide to split it up a little bit, but a lot
of these movies I've never even heard of, so
I can't really give any claim to them. Coming
out is Afternoon Delight, Battle of the Damned,
On the Job, and The Thorn. Again, heard none
of those. I guess you could also say Game of
Thrones Season 3 is coming out, so if you have
something, at least TV -wise. And then to finish
up the episode, way back when we talked about
Last week, we asked you guys what your favorite
Philip Seymour Hoffman performance was. We didn't
get a great deal of feedback. I'm not that surprised.
We did have a later episode last week, so I'm
sure some people are still trying to catch up
with it now. But we did get some people mentioning
what they liked, what stood out to them for Hoffman's
career. There's a lot to choose from. So from
the front it says, God Hoffman's career was so
amazing. I think the first role he let me know
just how amazing he was was in Boogie Nights.
He took a role that could have been nothing and
made it into a standout movie. That guy could
do it all. And I think I saw Boogie Nights I
think after Hoffman became a huge name. But I
know a lot of people point to that movie as like
the first thing that like, hey, this actor is
a serious actor. He has talent. Also, On a different
spectrum, Chuck mentioned, my fellow co -host
on Talking in Circles mentioned, I'm probably
not gonna get taken seriously for this, but the
answer, but I really... loved Hoffman in Twister.
I haven't really seen a lot of his movies, but
I thought he was really funny in that role, and
he made the movie a little more down to earth.
After all the special effects were a little crazy,
but I still loved that movie. But I thought Hoffman
was fun and engaging, kind of made it relatable,
like he was that type of guy that everyone knows,
just silly and fun. So how about your, you were
getting, I'm sorry, I didn't think I cut you
off there. No, we just got a, we definitely got
the whole gamut as far as. types of films that
he was in. Some that I, you know, I wasn't expecting
to get all those that mention like, you know,
Twister and what did we have here? Along Came
Polly got a mention, I believe. You know, The
Master. So we definitely got a lot of different
films there. I didn't follow his career at the
beginning. I was kind of late in the game as
far as No, you know recognizing him and and kind
of doing that type of thing but if I was to probably
go to a favorite I liked him in doubt I liked
him in Capote, I guess. He's just done so much.
It's kind of hard to land on a specific one.
And a lot of stuff you probably didn't know that
he was in because you watched it before you knew
of him like you were talking about with Twister.
A lot of those films where he was in them and
you probably just didn't realize it until you
go back. So yeah, probably doubt would be my
number one. Yeah, definitely. I mean, one to
talk about that. I honestly didn't even realize
he was in until animated at animation addict
meant I mentioned that Phil Seymour Hoffman provided
the voice for the movie Marion Max, which is
a movie I really like and I didn't even know
that was him. So that's crazy. Probably my favorite
Hoffman performance is maybe not the most notable
or recognizable, but it's from Philip Seymour
Hoffman. It's from Charlie Wilson's war. I just
find him, he's so much energy in that movie.
He's just unmistakable. His intro to that was
one of my favorite scenes. It's him with this
huge argument with his superior. He plays a CIA
agent and it's just, he's such a huge presence
and it's so funny at the same time. He's just
ferocious and it's an amazing performance. And
I think at that time, I didn't really know who
Hoffman was. He looks so different. He's got
this really crazy mustache and odd hair and big
gigantic glasses. But I think he makes that movie
so much better. I love that movie, mainly because
of his performance. And I think that's something
he did a lot, was that he would make a movie
better just by stepping into it. I haven't seen
Thount, so I really can't mention that. And he
was obviously great in Capote. That's where he
won his Oscar. But he has so much... Of a career
some I still need to catch up with so All right,
so our question for next week We told you that
what our top ten movies box office wise will
be what we think it's gonna be So our question
for you is what do you think will be the top
-grossing movie of? 2014 Hopefully, maybe you'll
be a lot different than us. Maybe there'll be
something we didn't mention that you thought
should have been or you think we're crazy or
you agree with some of us, let us know in our
comment section. And like I mentioned, there
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anything else before we bring this episode to
a close? I'm just looking forward to everybody's
take on what they think will be number one in
2014 if they agree with myself, if they agree
with you, or if they think we're both wrong.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to that as well. So
that'll be it for us for this week. We appreciate
you listening. And remember, for all things movies,
keep tuned to MRI Weekly. We'll see you next
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