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007 – The Living Daylights Review

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Mike and Dan dive into Timothy Dalton's first outing as James Bond. They discuss Dalton's intense take on the character, the film's complex plot involving a fake defection and arms dealing scheme, the supporting cast including Joe Don Baker's Brad Whitaker, and standout action sequences like the cargo plane stunt. While they praise the shift toward grittier action after Roger Moore's era, they also note the film feels overstuffed with red herrings and unnecessary plot threads.

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cast radio network and audible calm I am one

of your host do Joe Mike and joining me is movie

role Dan. Hello. Oh How are you? I am doing well.

How are you? Pretty good. I guess we're gonna

get the living daylights scared out of us Yes,

we're finally over with more and we are entering

the era of Dalton a very short -lived era of

Dalton. Yes very much very controversial. He's

very uh, I would say he is His the viewpoint

on him is very decisive with Bond fans. So I'm

curious to see our overall take on his two movies

Yeah, I I don't know I I mean I liked him when

I watched it and we'll kind of get into it. It's

just kind of weird for me seeing him as Bond

but I'll... I'll get into that after JT gives

us just the facts on the Living Daylights. landing

on the boat of a beautiful local woman. When

he calls into MI6, he says he'll be there in

two hours, which gives him plenty of time to

romance his new friend. Bond is then assigned

to Czechoslovakia to aid in the defection of

a General Georgi Koskov during a concert recital,

while covering the General from a sniper's perch

across the street. Bond notices another sniper,

a female cellist, who is playing in the concert.

Bond shoots the rifle out of her hand, and then

races with Koskov to an oil pumping plant, where

he shoves the mouthy Russian into a special missile

pod that carries him across the Iron Curtain

to Austria, where Q is waiting to usher him back

to England. While he is being debriefed by Bond

and MI6 Commander M, Koskov claims that the KGB's

old policy of smirt spin on him or death to spies

has been revived by new KGB Commander General

Leonid Pushkin. Koskov claims that Pushkin will

travel to the city of Tangier in Morocco in three

days for a trade convention but is really there

to begin assassinating spies on a list that Koskov

provides. M orders a reluctant 007 who doubts

Koskov's claims to take out Pushkin and seemingly

confirms the whole thing when he shows that death

to spies note that was found on one of the dead

agent's bodies. Despite being ordered to Tangier,

Bond travels back to Czechoslovakia to check

out the cellist sniper, Kara Milove, who turns

out to be Koskov's girlfriend. 007 lies to Kara,

saying he's a friend of Koskov's and convinces

her to travel with him back to England. Bond

and Kara are chased by Russian state police as

they head for the border, but Bond easily defeats

them with the weaponry hidden inside his Aston

Martin V8 Vantage, and they easily cross the

border back into Austria. However, in Tangier,

Pushkin has arrived to meet with an arms dealer

named Brad Whittaker. The blowhard Whittaker

attempts to sell Pushkin some new advanced weaponry,

but the KGB commander cancels a standing order

that Koskov put into play and demands the return

of all the money. Whittaker then meets with Koskov,

whose defection has now been proven to be false,

and had earlier affected an escape from MI6 with

the help of the assassin Necros. Whittaker is

furious at the idea of losing so much money,

but Koskov assures him the British will send

007 to kill Pushkin for the death -to -spy scenario

he has sold them on. Meanwhile in Vienna, Bond

spends time with Kara in hopes of gaining more

info about Koskov from her. Among other things,

Kara tells the secret agent that Koskov bought

her an original Stradivarius as a gift. Bond

meets with Saunders, another MI6 agent at a restaurant,

who tells Bond that Whittaker actually bought

the Stradivarius, establishing a history of financial

payoffs between him and Koskov. However, Saunders

is soon killed by a booby -trapped door set up

by Necros. Bond and Carrie then travel to Tangier,

and Bond meets with Pushkin at his hotel. Pushkin

denies any knowledge of spirit spin on him, and

tells Bond that Koskov was defecting because

he was running from charges of embezzling government

money. The two conspire to fake Pushkin's assassination

at the conference the next day, which they hope

will cause Koskov and Whitaker to advance their

plans. Unfortunately for Bond, Koskov contacts

Kara and convinces her Bond is KGB, sent to bring

her back to Russia. She drugs 007 when he returns

to the hotel they're staying at, and Necros and

Koskov arrive to take him away. Bond and Karat

are taken to a Soviet base in the Afghan desert,

where the two -faced Koskov turns Karat over

to the base commander as a defector, after BS

-ing his way onto the base with false claims

of a secret mission for Pushkin. Bond and the

heartbroken Karat are taken to the brig where

they meet Cameron Shaw, leader of the local Mujahideen,

fighting against the Russians. Cameron takes

them to his village once they escape and informs

Bond that Koskov is using the money he embezzled

to buy a huge quantity of opium from another

tribe. Bond deduces that the greedy Koskov plans

to sell the drugs, keep most of the profit for

himself, and still buy some weapons from Whittaker

for the Russian army. When the Mujahideen meets

with Koskov to complete the deal, Bon sneaks

on board a transport truck to plant a bomb that

will destroy the drugs, but is discovered when

placing the bomb on a transport plane. Bon takes

control of the plane and begins to take off,

while Cameron Shaw and his forces battle the

Sylvians. Kara escapes from Koskov and takes

off after Bon, driving a jeep up into the back

of the plane as it takes off. However, Koskov

gets Nekros onto the plane as well, and when

Bon goes to defuse the bomb hidden in the opium,

he and Nekros engage in a vicious struggle on

the cargo hanging out the back of the plane,

and Bond eventually throws Necros down to his

death. Bond and Kara escape just before the plane

crashes into a mountainside and head back to

Tangier. After making sure Kara is safe, Bond

goes to Whitaker's house to dispatch Whitaker

once and for all. Despite being taken by surprise,

Whitaker manages to gain the upper hand over

Bond with his concealed weaponry. Bond eventually

manages to kill Whitaker, but is almost killed

by some goons when he is rescued by Pushkin.

Koskov reveals himself, claiming he was a pawn

of Whittaker's, but Pushkin ain't buying this,

and he sends Koskov back to Russia in a diplomatic

bag. The film ends with Kara gaining a travel

visa, allowing her to emigrate from Russia, and

begins a world tour playing her cello with various

orchestras. However, before she leaves, she and

Bonn spend a night together, enjoying each other's

company. Opening on June 29, 1987, The Living

Daylights was directed by John Glenn, his fourth

007 film of the series. The film would make $191

million during its theatrical run, almost five

times its original $40 million budget. The film

starred Timothy Dalton, his first of only two

Bond films, despite being sought for the role

since the late 1960s. The film also starred Marian

D 'Abo as the film's Bond girl, Kara Milovie,

Jaren Crabb as Georgi Koskov, Art Malik as Cameron

Shaw, and John Rhys Davies as General Leonid

Pushkin. The Living Daily currently enjoys a

74 % fresh rating on RottenTomatoes .com, as

well as applause from critics and fans alike

who welcomed the return of realism and actual

espionage to the franchise. What, you thought

Moonraker was based in reality? Janet Maslin

of the New York Times said Dalton was the right

pick for Bond as he brought the right combo of

looks and energy that the series had been needing,

and Austin Kennedy of Film Geek Central also

loved the film, saying the film was one creator

Ian Fleming would have been proud of, and that

the script elevates the film over other Bond

adventures. However, Roger Ebert, ray of freaking

sunshine that he is, said the Bond films were

so familiar by now that it needed more humor

injected into it. Did you not see any of Roger

Moore's movies, pal? The dude couldn't go five

minutes without making a wisecrack. Now as I

said earlier, this was the first Dalton Vaughn

film, but it wasn't the first one he was courted

for. He was originally asked to replace Sean

Connery in the role on Her Majesty's Secret Service

back in the 60s, which he declined because he

felt he was too young at the time. He was once

again offered the part in the late 70s when production

began on Four Your Eyes only, but once again

declined the role. Other actors looked out for

the living daylights included Sam Neill and Mel

Gibson as well as Pierce Brosnan and Sean Bean

who later went on to portray Bond and Alex Trevelyan

respectively in 1995's GoldenEye. The film also

enjoyed a bit of royalty during the scene where

a Q -Bridge tech is testing the ghetto blaster.

The missile fired from the boombox was actually

set off by Prince Charles himself who was touring

the set during filming. and the film's theme

song entitled The Living Daylights was written

by Paul Wachtar -Savoy of the pop group A -Ha.

His bandmate Morton Harkett was also offered

an on -screen cameo as a bad guy, but had to

pass due to the group's touring of Japan. The

Living Daylights is a great Bond film. It brought

back a sense of realism that the series had been

missing for quite some time, and it had a great

bond in the form of Timothy Dalton, who brought

his sense of world -weary traveler and dangerous

assassin back to the role of 007. It had action,

intrigue, and a sense of stylish fun that's hard

to resist. This has been Just the Facts for Living

Daylights. I'm JT from Saskatoon. Back to you,

Mike. Thank you once again, as always, JT. Very

very awesome of you to give us the just the facts

here for the living daylights Up until this recording

for this series for the spotlight here in NY

I Had never seen this one I'm right there with

you. I honestly I for some reason I knew a lot

about the Sean Carnegie films the pros and ones

and Craig, but everything in between, I'm a new

beyond. I did not watch any of these movies until

we're watching them now for this retrospective

series. I had never seen this one. I remember

seeing Dalton in License to Kill as a very, very

young child, 10, 11, 12. Somewhere around there

I had seen him. and you know all that but I had

never actually seen this from beginning to end

and I know you know throughout throughout the

more I've said a couple of times where it was

this movie is way too damn long specifically

with live and let die this is by far in a way

longer than live and let die to me it I know

this is like two hours 21 minutes total if I

remember correctly looking on iTunes This seemed

like it was three hours 21 minutes Yeah, I I

don't know maybe I think overall I don't mind

long movies so I think that yeah Maybe if you're

if you're a person that doesn't or doesn't like

slower pace films or overall Just movies that

go beyond that 90 minutes or two hours. I could

see this dragging but personally I've watched

You know watching a lot of the older classic

films that tend to go longer. This didn't feel

that long to me. It does feel Longer than the

bonds like the the connery era, but besides that

I never felt it was dragging ever or I never

really noticed a time like I have with other

movies I mean and I mean it wasn't like I I don't

think overall that there are too many things

in this movie that you could cut out and it would

it wouldn't suffer, but it just I don't know,

there's just too much here for me. And it's not

necessarily the time length, it just, it felt

like it, there was so much going on, so many

different plots, so many, you know, workarounds

and so many, you know, dodging this and, you

know, misleading you down. This film essentially

suffers from way too many damn red herrings,

I think. It does jump from location to location

and there's a lot going on. I do agree with that.

It could have, like, There will get into it more

but there's certain moments or certain places

that goes that it didn't seem like it needed

to I think the last maybe 15 20 minutes is a

good example of what could have been left off

and it would have been better But I was never

like looking at my watch ever, but I do agree.

There's a few moments that were unnecessary You

know Yes, let's talk about Timothy Dalton has

bond what are your thoughts on Dalton has bond?

I feel Dalton is a reaction towards Roger Moore

in the last movie. We've mentioned how Roger

Moore was older. His career as Bond was kind

of one where the action was limited. He was never

great with the action. So I think they got someone

like Dalton, who is more of an intense actor

and you buy him in these fight scenes. And thank

you. That's why they end. Have him enter the

way he does and I don't think he's really great

with the humor or even like the romantic angle

of bond But I love him as an action hero I think

he fits into this era of the 1980s where we have

people like Stallone and Schwarzenegger And I

think he was a reaction towards that mindset.

I think that's why they got Dalton, but I appreciate

what he does I don't think he is the best bond,

but I think he is a great brush of fresh rest

sorry a breath of fresh air to the Franchise

like Roger Moore was when he first came right?

Yeah I agree, you know Dalton really sells the

action stuff I think he's I think Dalton portrays

the the cold the coldness of the character of

bond a little too well Because you don't believe

him, you know when he tells a woman, you know,

you know, it'll be okay We'll get through this

or you know, I'll make sure I save you etc. Etc.

Etc um but overall watching this for the first

time i really did enjoy it even though i think

you know in certain places it it just drags on

a little bit too long for me um and then you've

got um Miriam Davao or Diabo as as Kira Milovie

uh Costco's girlfriend and later Bond's love

interest who is she is the Bond girl in this

now As soon as I saw that name on the screen,

I was like, hmm, really? And I clicked on her

name. She is the first cousin of the singer Mike

Diabo, thus first cousin once removed from his

daughter, actress Olivia Diabo. Now, Olivia Diabo,

for those that don't... Those that don't know

her played Nicole Wallace in Law and Order of

Criminal Intent She was also a voice actress

in Justice League Unlimited Who'd she play in

there? 2001 where is Justice League she voiced

doesn't say oh She was Star Sapphire in Justice

League Unlimited. That's who she was Really,

you know so I like Miriam. She's all right. She's

not the best Bond girl in the world. Yeah, I

agree. She's serviceable. She has some of her...

She has some highlights. Her character is...

I enjoyed the purpose of her character and how

she was kind of misused in the beginning, and

they give you that, you know, what you think

she is, and she's just assassin, but she really

isn't. I enjoyed that angle of her character,

but I want to call her one of the best, but she's...

far far far from the one of the worst bond girls

no she's i would say she is one of the worst

bond girls um she's not the worst but she's like

right in there with them um at least in my personal

opinion i i just i i don't i don't i don't know

if it's the fact that i don't believe her with

timothy dalton like i don't Don't believe their

chemistry together on the screen at all. I Put

that more on Dalton than I do with her I think

because I think when she's her solo scenes and

you see her trying to Struggle with like a relationship

with her husband or whatnot. I do agree her and

Dalton don't have chemistry But when we get to

the next film, I don't think Dalton really has

much chemistry with anyone in that either So

I fought that more in Dalton than I do on her.

But yeah, I just you know Next up we have Jack

Wade. I hadn't seen this before and I was like,

what the hell is Jack Wade doing in this movie?

You got Joe Don Baker as Brad Whittaker, the

arms dealer. Baker called his character a nut

who thought he was Napoleon. I just can't see

this guy. As like after seeing Goldeneye and

tomorrow never dies. I can't see him play He

plays a really great villain, but you know the

one one that we kind of skipped over I skipped

over was Jerome crab crabby as general Jory Koskoff,

I don't see Koskoff as a main villain here I

mean, I know what says he is. He's, you know,

he's a renegade Soviet general, but I see Joe

Don Baker is more of a, is Brad Whitaker is more

of a villain than, than Koskov. Baker is like

the one that ends up being behind everything.

I think for the most part we think Koskov is

the one running things. And then we kind of,

we learn about Baker's character. I think I didn't

mind Baker, but I felt we talked about things

that could have been edited. I think if they

just kept Koskov, it would have been enough.

I don't know if we really needed Baker in this.

But, yeah. And then you have John Rhys Davies

as General Leonid Pushkin, the new head of the

KGB, replacing General Gogol. When I was watching

this, I kept thinking as much as I like Robbie

Coltrane as Zhukovsky, I kept seeing John Rhys

Davies as Zhukovsky in the in the Brosnan era.

I don't know why. Well, what did you think of

Koskoff and all you kind of said? What did you

think of Ryze Davies as the new head of the KGB?

I think he was okay. I mean, Golgold is a character

that we see repeated. I think it would have been

better if they kept a similar actor into one

we've seen before playing that character. But

he was okay. I preferred those who came before.

Compared to him, but he I think in a way it got

confusing because and we know who Google is and

then Seeing this other I couldn't figure out

who was who at one point, but I don't think he

was bad I just I don't know he wasn't really

had much to do to begin with so it's hard to

really give a distinct opinion on his overall

performance yeah, and you have You have Robert

Brown back as em, so that's and again Find it

more believable here that he's M than I do in

a veto kill because obviously new bond new M

Etc. Etc. Etc. Yeah It makes more sense when

they bring in a new bond to bring in a new like

your money penny or a new M or a new Q It makes

more sense then then to keep the same one I mean,

I didn't mind it of course, but to change it

midstream I mean they kind of had to in Roger

Morse case, but it feels off in a way Yeah, and

of course Desmond well in his back is Q very

awesome I Don't I don't know if I Again it's

a chemistry thing. I don't know if I can buy

Dalton's bond interacting with Q No, it just

doesn't I don't know it doesn't feel right to

me. Yeah, I think it's because Dalton isn't great

with the one -liners. He doesn't have a really

good Comedic talent so in those cue moments Llewellyn's

kind of carrying him and you know in those sequences

and it feels out of place for the Dalton character

because he's more serious to kind of have these

lighter moments it doesn't really make sense

and Yeah, you got a brand new miss money penny

in this one you got Caroline bliss as money penny

and the one thing I noticed with this is this

is the the start of Bond and well not really

the start but Dalton really pours it on with

money penny Whereas in the past it's been more

subtle Yeah, as far as their affections towards

each other, whatever they might be I would say

definitely the more I think Connery and Moneypenny

had a better Relationship and yeah more dead.

I think more overall. He was always I think he

Wasn't great with that relationship with Moneypenny,

but this is part of the reason why I don't fault

Marianne Diablo as in her performance in her

chemistry is because I never felt bonnet or that

Bond and Dalton had chemistry with Moneypenny

either, so I put that blame more on Dalton than

I do on those two characters and those two actresses.

Overall, I think it's a good cast. I think having

Joe Don Baker be the overall bad guy is a good

thing, and any time you see John Rhys Davies

in anything is good. Again, I still think that

it just goes on a little bit too much. Apparently,

originally, the film was proposed to be a prequel

in the series. Of course, that idea would come

back later in the 2006 reboot. I don't know if

I'd buy this as a prequel. Yeah, I couldn't see

it. I mean, they would have to change a few things,

for sure. I mean, Gogol, for one, because he...

They obviously know each other. It's a hard balance

to make. How do you bring a new bond in? There's

so much more history now than even when Roger

Moore came in. So it's like, how do you transition

this bond into this new era and still try to

keep all this other stuff that happened before?

So I understand the need or the want to reboot.

I think it'd be possible for them to go down

that route, but I think it was the right choice

not to. It's something I think you should stay

away from until you have to do it, and I don't

think they're at the point where they need to

reboot it yet. I think it's fine to keep it going

the way that they're going. We kind of talked

about it in the GeekCast radio episode as far

as the casting goes. Initially Dalton didn't

want to do it at the time, back when he thought

he was too young. initially Brosnan Pierce Brosnan

was gonna be bond in these two films but of course

he was tied to NBC with with with Remington Steel

I'm glad Dalton get a chance to do it you know

at least two of the films you know I do like

him overall For the most part, I think he's cool

and interesting in a different bond. Each bond

has been so dramatically different from the others.

Connery is classic. Everybody knows and loves,

specifically for Dr. No and Goldfinger. Everybody

knows and loves Connery for those films. And

the same thing with Moore for certain films of

his and the same thing for Dalton. I think...

Every choice they've made has been a good choice,

even though we may critique the fact that, you

know, Dalton might not be the right, might not

have been the right choice because his acting

doesn't, you know, might overstate the role or

might understate the role. What'd you think of

the change to the Aston Martin V8 Vantage Series

2, the new car? I like it. I like the callback

to Aston Martin. I think Bonn is best when he's

driving an Aston Martin. Even if I like Roger

Moore's cars, I think it has more of a classic

look. And I mentioned how I think Bonn should

always have a classic look to him. I still love

the classic Aston Martin from Goldfinger. Jeez,

I keep doing that too. But I enjoy it. I like

how it had the skis and its overall. all the

different tools and gadgets it had. I don't think

it was as memorable as the one from Goldfinger,

but I appreciate the callback to that movie.

Yeah. Alright, let's talk about the music in

this. I see why A -ha is a one -hit wonder. Yeah,

it seems like they tried to repeat the success

from a view to a kill and Didn't fail miserable

exactly often when you try to repeat yourself

It doesn't work if you're gonna repeat yourself.

Don't get you know someone Yeah The song is just

so weird cuz Really, honestly, even super fans

of 80s music, of new wave 80s music and stuff,

most of us only know Take On Me because that

was their, like I said, one hit wonder. That's

the only song outside of this that I have ever

heard from them. And I just didn't buy it. I

liked I liked the title sequence though. I thought

the title sequence imagery I thought that was

great. Yeah a very 80s. It almost it was like

the first music video on a Bond movie Yeah, yeah

I thought that was absolutely amazing All right,

so getting into the highlights What happened

salt corrosion like that I love the gadgets on

this Aston Martin. They're so awesome. Love them.

Finally, a great snow scene. The one with the

cello? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the downhill. Yeah.

Yeah, that was interesting. It I understand why

you would like it because I guess they're not

skiing and shooting at the same time I Loved

that to me. I almost felt I didn't dislike that

moment It just felt almost like a Roger Moore

acting sequence than not a Timothy Dalton one

But maybe they're just trying to kind of you

know them. They didn't want to be completely

different So they figured okay, let's put this

in there for them Roger Moore fans Yeah I pretty

much have already gushed about this, but Whitaker,

aka Wade, aka Joe Dombaker, for the win. Love

that guy. I like Dalton as Bond, but to me there

was too much going on in this film. And what

was the actual, like, what was the villain's

overall plot here? I mean, like I said, it was

probably one of the worst spy movies ever. I

mean, it was, it felt to me that In general not

not a Bond film, but in general is a spy movie

There was so much misdirection going on in this

I didn't know which end was up half the time

I was watching it It did have all these different

moments that go together and it's take lead you

on one path and then you end up in Afghanistan

and you go you find out okay This is all ruse

for the you know it it gets to the point where

when you try to figure out Okay, what was the

ultimate goal here? It's murky compared to the

other movies, but yeah it Considering overall

plots and the end up the end game for it I didn't

feel like it was any worse or better than most

of the mythons we've got to since this but I

mean what was the end game because I still don't

like I Watched through it almost twice and you

know in the time that I had had it rented on

iTunes and I still Didn't get it Yeah, it seems

like he was trying the classic I honestly I'm

trying to think back into what his ultimate goal

was but I think for one, you had the main character

who was a big fan of Ward to begin with, and

you think his ultimate goal is ultimate conquest

of everyone. And then you had them trying to

get opium from the Afghans and trying to get...

That's what it was. He wanted the opium. That's

what it was. That was so weird. It was essentially

a sell -off. Here, I will sell you... all these

weapons and technology so you can start World

War III for all this opium that I'm going to

smoke in my spare time. Yeah, it was a strange

reasoning. It seems like that's where they're

going. But I really loved the Afghan sequence

so much, I didn't really care the reasoning behind

getting there. Oh no, it's not that I don't mind

it, it's just like, I just like... Most movies,

or specifically, let's talk specifics, most Bond

films, to this point, I can see the plot clear

as day, or they announce, like, you know, and

we'll say, so -and -so villain is planning on

World War III by, you know, nuclear holocaust,

or, you know, something... They have the monologue

or something like that where they explain everything.

Right, right, exactly. There's no monologue in

this film. Worst villain ever. I don't know.

What did you like about this one? We talked about

the action and I love how they introduced Alton

with the kind of twin training sequence gone

wrong and I don't I didn't know this while watching

it but after going back and Researching about

this movie apparently the two other double agents

one supposed to look like Roger Moore and what's

supposed to look like Connery But I personally

didn't pick up on that. I didn't find that out

until I was Learning learning about this film

Love how intense Dalton is overall what he lacks.

I don't mind because I Buy him as an action star

and we got to oh, yeah, so I After watching if

you do a kill I was I love to watch an action

sequence and not have a cutscene and then you

know I like to actually believe Bond is the person

making everything work and not some stuntman.

Oh I totally agree with that. Yeah, I mean, you

know And again even now well back then in 87,

you know Dalton was not Old but he wasn't so

young that he could pull off the stunts and the

action scenes unlike more before him And yeah,

I absolutely agree. I love that about him. Whoa

What else about this one? Did you like the perfect

example of that was in the on the airplane with

the cargo net and they're hanging off the cargo

net it was that sequence was Amazing. It was

so well handled and so well edited Yeah, and

if they had Roger Moore, it would have worked

but the cutscenes Yes, you can tell that okay

Dalton's not really hanging off an airplane,

but it wasn't completely evident It wasn't completely

obvious that it wasn't him and I thought that

was one of the best stunts. It was so great I

love that moment. It's very tense and on the

edge of your seat. That was yeah that whole Afghan

sequence overall I loved Yeah, what I love about

the plane sequence is The fact that when he tells

her to drive into the plane Yeah, and she does

there are securements because as soon as She

opens the back and he ends up hanging out the

back on you know That holds as soon as he ends

up hanging outside the plane with the other bad

guy I was like wait a second that Jeep should

be falling right now, but then I remembered.

Oh wait. No, it's secured by whatever Magnetic

or whatever the hell kind of secure. So at first

I was gonna have an issue with that that whole

scene Because the Jeep didn't fall out of the

plane when the thing opened the car door open,

but then I remembered Oh wait, no, they secured

it and I absolutely love when the 10 plane crashes

driving out of the That was amazing. Yeah. Yeah

that that was a lot of fun I really and it's

moments like that when you have a lot of fun

moments and like intense action sequences when

a plot that's kind of It's as strange as this

one is that I kind of don't even mind it I don't

even think about it because I'm just an on along

for the ride and Part of it too. I really like

the beginning not just the opening pre -title

sequence But the sequence when they try to get

Kaoskov out of the country and try to get him

to the defect That was really cool seeing him

in the pipeline. That was kind of nice That was

where you have the you know larger -than -life

woman you would say distracting the guard by

using her You know, using what God gave her,

I guess you would say. That was funny. Tatas!

Bodacious tatas! Very much. And I liked how Bond

used his mind, too, when he saw that Kovchikov's

girlfriend was going to shoot him, and he noticed

that she has no idea what she's doing with that

gun, so he just shot it out of her hand instead

of actually killing her. Yeah. And he gets reprimanded

for that, though. Yeah, he does. But then it

rolls around to the fact that she's not a professional

hitman. Yeah. It shows that Toltan's bond is

not one who will just play by the rules, and

he will take what he chances when he thinks he's

right. And it really plays into the next movie,

where he really goes off the deep end and kind

of goes against all of the advice of all of his,

you know, of M and Q and whatnot. But yeah. Great,

a lot of fun, great action, a huge improvement

from the last movie. Yeah. I only have one lowlight.

That could have been a mass murderer bond led

out of the jail. What the fuck? Yeah, I guess.

I mean, I mean, you don't know, you know, I mean,

it's like. Seriously, I guess the idea is the

enemy of my enemy is my friend. So well true

I mean, I you know, I get that but you know still

it's like Yeah You know, I guess he took a chance

and ended up working but it could have been a

lot worse He could end up, you know killing bond

and then that would have been the other movie,

but he lucked out I guess most room Did you have

anything that you didn't like about this one?

I wasn't a big fan of the gadget he got in this

when Roger Moore started he got the watch and

I like that gadget but Dalton gets his little

keychain that is activated through whistling

which seems very odd and not that practical and

But yeah, I didn't really like the keychain gadget.

It's practical for the end of the movie Yeah

And we kind of mentioned this but I Though I

like John D Baker. I thought his character could

have been cut out and that last final scene with

his the showdown with him and bond I think that's

part of the movie that could have been Taken

out of it and I had was left on such a high with

all the stuff in Afghanistan when we go back

to that moment It's kind of it's anti -climactic.

It's kind of like the man with the golden gun

after scaramanga gets killed Everything else

behind that isn't it's not as effective. I think

it's the same thing with us Yeah, no, I I completely

agree it is it kind of does feel anti -climactic

even though I Love Joe Don Baker, and I love

you know his I love him as an actor even though

I've only seen him in three films ever I Just

he's Joe Don Baker is one of those actors that

you think you've known You know what I mean is

one of those things like where have I seen that

guy before? And it was one of those things here

where yes, I remember him from Goldeneye and

Tomorrow Never Dies, but even when we get to

Goldeneye, I swear, when I saw Goldeneye in theaters

for the very first time, I'm like, where have

I seen this guy before? Because I felt like I

knew Joe Don Baker in something else previous

to Goldeneye. And it wasn't this. He has a very

familiar face and look. He does seem... I agree

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on the living daylights. I wasn't, I didn't know

what to expect when I went into this movie. When

I talked to a lot of my friends who were Bond

fans, they kind of, you know, looked down their

nose at the Timothy Dalton era and kind of feel

like his films were a misstep, so. Coming in

I had low expectations, but I honestly don't

understand where those lower where those haters

come from. Yes He's not Connery. He's not more

but he's something different and I like what

he is I think he's a very great respite representation

of where 80s action was at the time and he handles

the action sequences and he Is his own character.

He's not trying to be someone else He's not the

perfect bond, but I think he brings a lot to

the role that I think people should appreciate

I consider this one of the more under rated movies

in the Dalton era, and I had a lot of great fun

with it. I loved the stunts, I loved the action,

and I think it's a huge improvement, and it was

a right step to go with bringing him into this

movie. I really wish he had more movies than

two. We'll get to License to Kill next week and

give our thoughts on that, but I kind of wish

he had more, and I wish we got more Dalton. I

kind of want more Dalton, but anyways. Overall,

I think it's a great movie. great way to start

with Timothy Dalton and If you have not seen

this film because you just assume it's not good

do yourself a favor and check it out Yeah, I

agree now. Let me ask you this though. Do you

think that? If everything lined up correctly

And as we said last week, we felt that Roger

Moore should have his swan song was the spy who

loved me. Do you think Dalton's bond could have

Portrayed better in a view to a kill starting

out It would have been it would have to be a

lot different movie because okay He doesn't do

the kind of comedic action sequences nearly as

well Right. I think it would have to be completely

different than okay. Yeah. Well, you know, I

don't know I mean that's just you know something

that you know, you said you wished he was in

more I In retrospect, I guess I kind of don't

I'm glad he did the ones that he did I mean I

you know at the time hey great if you know if

he was gonna do more that's all well and good,

but If he had done more I don't think we would

have gotten the awesomeness that is gonna come

after a license to kill Yeah, I guess I guess

that's true. But yeah, I mean there was a there

was a big break there And if you give a one more

movie, I wouldn't been okay with I mean, you

know, oh right. No, no, I I Agree with the break

between license and and and gold and I yes if

there was like saying, you know 93 Yeah, oh,

you know night 92 or 93 I mean hell if you put

a James Bond movie out in 1992 no matter what

it is with Timothy Dalton It's gonna blow Batman

returns out of the frickin water. I Don't know

about that but box -office wise I don't see I

just I don't know. I don't know. I didn't check

to see it Well, this is I think it was a hit

wasn't a huge hit But I just don't understand

why so many people hate on this movie I I get

it with other films and either one even ones

I like I like live live and let die and a lot

of people hate that movie and I can understand

why but this one I just don't maybe because it's

not the bond that we're used to but I don't know

I personally Yeah, I don't know All right. So

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