007 – Licence to Kill Review

I want you to know this is nothing personal.

It's purely business. Killing me won't stop anything,

Sanchez! See you in hell! This private vendetta

of yours could easily compromise Her Majesty's

government. You're going after Sanchez, aren't

you? Are you crazy? Make a sound, and you're

dead. No! Your license to kill is revoked. Effective

immediately. In my business, you prepare for

the unexpected. Problem solved. I'm more of a

problem eliminator. He's gotta be stopped. This

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said what come atina center Shaken not stirred

of course Hello and welcome to shaken not stirred

M wire spotlight of the bond films, which is

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and audible dot com i'm one of your steve jim

mike and today and joining me as always is muriel

then hello hello how are you i'm well how are

you uh... okay i almost didn't make it but i'm

here yay uh... today we're going to be finding

out why james bond has a license to kill oh boy

It turns out I don't remember seeing this film

as it why I remember seeing this it's it's so

weird the Dalton era like I know Last week when

we talked about the living daylights. I know

I had never seen that because I only known Let's

face it license out of the two of them is the

more popular or the one not really more popular

But the one that is more well known to most like

an average moviegoer I would say it's probably

definitely more talked about just to think a

lot of because of the controversy with it and

it's More of a hotbed topic with a lot of bond

fans. So I think you hear more about license

than you do about her bad or Living living daylights

for sure. Yeah But yeah, I you know when I sat

down to watch this and I'm like Okay, I remember

seeing Dalton is bond in this but I don't remember

anything that's going on in this movie what so

ever Yeah for a large portion of this I could

only think about your feelings towards quantum

and We'll get to that eventually and I was just

thinking and like well if he doesn't like that

revenge pot I could only imagine what's going

through his head with a lot of this well Alright,

let's let's get this out of the way. I have stated

in the past I stated on the GCR Bond episode

I've stated in I think it was you know that that

film that shall never be talked about ever again

with the Australian model You know that I don't

think James Bond should be doing revenge type

stories specifically because of what the current

era of bond did before skype between royale and

and quantum of snoring uh... i get a good idea

as of the television she said my friend melissa

uh... who runs the television dot com she commented

on one of my on on the facebook status i put

out about uh... on her majesty's secret service

and in quantum of boring And she said, yeah,

I call it the quantum of snoring. I was like,

oh, that's awesome. But I understand why this

is James going after a revenge type thing, because

it's his friend. And I understand why he did

it, even though we didn't cover it here. But

part of diamonds are forever. I understand, you

know, they killed his wife, you know, obviously,

okay, I get that. I just feel, and I'll repeat

this again when we get to it, I just feel that

between Casino Royale and Quantum of Boredom,

it just doesn't... James Bond is not supposed

to be... a serialized film franchise. What I

mean by serialized film franchise in my opinion

is it's not supposed to have movie one, movie

two, movie three. It's not supposed to have sequels.

It's supposed to be individual missions. And

that's my biggest issue between Royale and Solus.

is that they tried to set it up to be a sequel

and that's, I don't like that, I disagree with

that. You look at Living Daylights and you look

at this, two, even though they're Dalton, essentially

two very different films. Yeah, typically with

the Bond franchise, I mean in the beginning there

was a little bit of carryover with dr. No to

rush from Russia with love what they tend to

get away from that and focus just right movie

to movie I mean we can get more in a quantum

when we get there. I personally I don't mind

I don't mind if they switch it up here and there

or We'll get with this film when they kind of

make things more personal that you say like,

you know this time It's personal. You know that

classic tie -in line which works with this film.

So I think if Bond changes as long as they make

that change work and it's a good change or effective.

I don't mind it It's more so when they change

it and then the product they change it to is

is less than what came before You know, that's

that's the issue. It's like the new coke new

coke wasn't bad because it was new It was bad

because the drink soft is the so it's the same

thing if you change bond to something different

It's okay with me as long as what we get is still

good. So that's like And when we kind of get

in the Craig era, we'll go over that. When we

can see the changes that worked for the better,

and then those changes that maybe were better

left with the kind of room floor. Right. All

right. So we're going to head it over to JT from

Saskatoon, who has the Justifacts on license

to kill. Really, 007? Q, what the hell are you

doing here? I might have killed you! Well, I'm

on leave. Thought I'd pop round and see how you're

getting on. You all right? Yes, of course I'm

all right. How'd you find me? Well, Moneypenny,

of course, she's worried sick about you. This

is no place for you, Q. Go home. Oh, don't be

an idiot, 007. I know exactly what you're up

to, and quite frankly, you're gonna need my help.

Remember, if it hadn't been for Q Branch, you'd

have been dead long ago. Everything for a man

on holiday. Explosive alarm clock guaranteed

never to wake up anybody who uses it. Dentonite

toothpaste to be used sparingly. It's the latest

in plastic explosive. I could do with some plastic.

I thought there might be a mess to clean up.

Pam, this is Q, my uncle. Uncle, this is Miss

Kennedy, my cousin. Ah, we must be related. How

do you do? Now, pay attention, 007. Now, this

looks like an ordinary camera, doesn't it? What

kind of film does it take? 120? No, .220, high

velocity. Now, this is a signature gun, and that

is an optical palm reader. And if I plug this

into the bottom like that, once I've programmed

it... Now, nobody can use the gun but you. Smile,

boys. Don't use the flesh! Stop fiddling about

with things you don't understand. You might easily

have killed him. That's odd. Look, let's all

get some rest, shall we? We've got a long, hard

day ahead of us tomorrow. Good night, Q. Sweet

dreams, Mr Bond. As we begin the film, James

Bond is in Florida and on his way with friend

Felix Leiter to the latter's wedding. Along the

way, they are pulled over by DEA agents who Leiter

was working with. He is informed that a ruthless

drug lord, Franz Sanchez, is in the Bahamas for

the first time in years and this may be their

only chance to capture him. Despite his own protest,

Bond goes in with Felix to help with the arrest.

Catching up with the villain at a small airfield,

Bond, Leiter and the DAA engage in a brief gun

battle with Sanchez's forces before he takes

off in a small plane. Bond and Leiter then use

a Coast Guard helicopter to literally pull the

plane from the sky and arrest Sanchez. The two

friends then haul ass to the wedding, literally

dropping in on the proceedings as they parachute

in. After the wedding, everyone heads to Felix's

home for the reception where they present Bond

with an engraved lighter. Della even teases James

that he should get married and tosses her garter

at him. Bond accepts it with a half -hearted

smile and Felix reminds his wife he was married

once before, but that was in another lifetime.

Meanwhile, a very cavalier Sanchez, who says

he won't be here long, is interrogated by DEA

agent Killefer before he is loaded into a transport

truck and taken away to prison. But along the

way, Killefer knocks out the guard in the back

with Sanchez, revealing that he has turned traitor.

Then a helicopter with magnetic lift hauls the

truck off the road and drops it into the ocean.

Frogman soon arrives to rescue Sanchez and Killefer,

who the drug lord has paid off with $2 million.

Sanchez then has his lieutenant, the psychotic

Dario, kidnap Felix and his new bride. They kidnap

the couple and bring them to a marine research

lab run by Milton Crest, Sanchez's partner in

his drug smuggling operation. Killifer then reveals

himself to Leiter and after Dario tells Leiter

they raped and killed his wife, they lower him

into a shark tank where he is mauled by the waiting

animal. The next day, Bond learns of the attack

while at the airport and goes to see his injured

friend. Doctors say he may survive, but he has

lost his right leg and Bond vows revenge, ignoring

his standing orders for a new assignment. Bond

breaks into Felix's home and searches through

his files, finding a lead that implicates Milton

Crest and goes to investigate. After bluffing

his way in, 007 meets with Crest, who feeds him

some lies about what goes on there, and then

he leaves, but not before noticing the flower

from Felix's tuxedo on the floor. Later that

night, Bond sneaks in and searches the lab to

discovering it's a waystation for Sanchez's operation.

He is attacked by guards, and after a brief fight,

he runs into Killifer, who has been hiding there.

Bond knocks Killifer onto a rope over the shark

pit, then tosses the traitor's payoff at him,

knocking him into the tank to his death. The

next day, Bond is taken to meet with M, who demands

that Bond let it go before he orders 007 to Istanbul

for a new assignment. Bon politely declines,

wanting to find the men who attacked his friend.

When M again refuses, Bon quits MI6 and escapes

after M revokes his license to kill. Going back

to the lighter house, Bon looks over the files

on Sanchez again and sees that Felix had a meeting

with an informant that night. Bon heads to the

rendezvous and meets Pam Bouvier, a former CIA

pilot who had worked for Sanchez before. However,

as they discuss what they can do for each other,

Dario and some thugs show up, and after instigating

a bar brawl and escaping through a shotgun hole

in the back wall, Pam and Bond escape in a cigarette

boat. When the engine conks out, they drift to

shore, while Pam gets a reluctant Bond to agree

to let her help get the guys who hurt Felix.

Part of the plan involves Bond sneaking on board

Milton Crest's boat the next day. Bond sneaks

in with a submersible drone and sees bales of

money in a decompression chamber, and as he sneaks

about the ship checking things out, he runs into

Lupe Lamora, Sanchez's girlfriend, who had tried

to run away but was caught by Crest. After a

battle with some frogmen, Bond sees the drone

deliver the bales of money to a waiting sea plane,

where Sanchez's men reload the drone with fresh

cocaine. Bond climbs on board the drone and destroys

the drugs, then uses a harpoon gun to get on

board the seaplane. After he eliminates the drug

runners, Bond steals the plane and the money

and heads to Isthmus City in Panama with Pam

to continue his mission of vengeance. 007 uses

the stolen money to gamble in Sanchez's casino

to get his attention, and when he is brought

before Sanchez for a friendly interrogation,

Bond passes himself off as a mercenary looking

for work. He has also gained the attention of

a man named one of several Chinese men who were

there to meet with Sanchez about expanding the

scope of his operations. And, surprisingly, Q

shows up at Bond's hotel room, ready, willing

and able to help with his undertaking. Of course,

Q has brought a bag full of the usual goodies

for Bond to play with, which include a sniper

rifle camera and plastic explosive toothpaste.

The next night, while Sanchez holds his meeting,

Bond sets the explosives outside the window and

then retreats to the building opposite the casino

to trigger them. But just as he is about to set

the explosives off, he sees Pam meeting with

Heller, Sanchez's security chief in the room

opposite. Once she leaves, Bonn triggers the

bomb, but is attacked and captured by some ninjas.

When he comes to, Bonn finds he's been captured

by Quang, who is really a Chinese narcotics cop

who has been infiltrating Sanchez's organization.

Just as the local MI6 operative arrives to take

Bonn back to London, the local military forces,

under command of Sanchez, who think the Chinese

agents were there for him, attack and destroy

them all. Sanchez's men discovers Bond in the

wreckage and he is brought back to Sanchez's

mansion. When Bond awakes the next day, he manages

to get Sanchez to believe that the Chinese agents

were there to kill him and that they had a man

inside. Bon drops enough hints for Sanchez that

he starts to think that Crest is turned on him.

After accepting Sanchez's insistent demands that

he stay at the mansion, Bon escapes with the

help of Lupe and contacts Pam and Q for the next

stage of the plan. Bon also confronts Pam about

her meeting with Heller, where she reveals that

she was giving Heller an offer of immunity from

Felix if he can return some Stinger missiles

that Sanchez was going to use as a deterrent

to the DAA. She confesses that she was trying

to complete Felix's plan, but now Heller is backed

out and her life isn't even great. greater danger.

Bond assures her that he won't let that happen,

and that evening, Pam and Bond separately board

Crest's boat and place the money Bond stole back

in the decompression chamber. When Sanchez arrives,

his suspicions are seemingly confirmed when he

finds the money, and he traps Crest inside the

chamber, setting it to maximum pressure before

popping the porthole with a fire axe and killing

Crest. Sanchez then returns to the mansion to

speak with Bond, who just barely made it back

before him, and the drug lord rewards Bond for

his help and says he wants to show Bond something

the next day. That something turns out to be

the heart of Sanchez's operation, which is a

meditation retreat headed by Professor Joe Butcher.

The quasi -religious telecasts that Professor

Butcher puts on are actually coded for Sanchez's

customers, whose donations are purchases of his

product. Sanchez also demonstrates that his product

is smuggled out of the country by dissolving

it in gasoline, which is then separated by means

of a simple chemical mixture after it reaches

its destination. While the tour continues, Pam

arrives at the compound after being told by Lupe

that Bond was still going after Sanchez despite

believing that he was leaving the country. Pam

traps Professor Joe in his personal chamber and

steals his keys and searches for Bond. About

this time, Bond is discovered by Dario who ties

him up and puts him on a conveyor belt while

Sanchez questions him. Bond is nearly sent into

a drug grinder when he asks about the Stingers

and Sanchez leaves him to search for Heller while

Dario tries to finish Bond off. Pam shows up

and shoots Dario allowing Bonn to grab him and

feed him to the grinder. Pam and Bonn then chase

after Sanchez, coming across Heller, who had

been killed by his employer while he was caught

stealing the Stingers. Bonn sees Sanchez take

off in his car, followed by four tanker trucks

full of the drugs. They take off in a small plane

Pam arrived in, and Bonn is dropped onto the

back of one of the tanker trucks and then takes

control of it. He manages to run one of the other

trucks off the road, then dodges a Stinger missile

one of Sanchez's goons fires at him by executing

a driver's side wheelie with his tanker truck.

Bond abandons his truck and climbs aboard the

final tanker and starts to let the gas out of

the tank. Sanchez stops the truck and climbs

on board hacking at Bond with a machete and he

severs the brake line of the truck. Sanchez and

Bond fight each other in the back of the truck

and after the truck rolls off the road, Bond

is beaten and bloody and in danger of being killed

by Sanchez when he sets the villain alight with

the lighter he got from Felix and Della. Sanchez

is left to die in the flames while Bond takes

off with Pam. The following evening Bond attends

a lavish party thrown by Lupe at Sanchez's former

estate. Pam arrives with Q, eager to see Bond

who she has fallen for, but rushes out when she

sees Lupe kiss him. Bond chases after her, revealing

his own feelings for Pam as he kisses her, ending

the film. Directed by John Glenn, his fifth and

final Bond film licensed The Kill opened on July

13, 1989 to generally favorable reviews, despite

many criticizing the noticeably darker and violent

plot of the film. Derek Malcolm of The Guardian

likened the film to the earlier Bond films in

its harder edge and flair, and the critic for

The Observer, Philip French, Also said he enjoyed

the serious tone of Dalton's performance and

called License to Kill an entertaining and untaxing

film. However, not all critics enjoyed the new

Bond film. Hilary Mantel of The Spectator and

David Robinson of The Times both dismissed the

film. Robinson felt the film neither disappointed

or surprised the fan base, while Mantel likened

License to Kill's plot to that of a slasher film.

Modern critics are equally split on the film,

resulting in its current 74 % frustrating on

RottenTomatoes .com. Licensed to Kill star Timothy

Dalton in his second and final appearances as

007. The rest of the cast included Robert Davies

as Franz Sanchez, David Hedison in his second

appearance as Felix Leiter, Cary Hiroyuki Tagawa

as Quang, Benicio del Toro in an early film appearance

as Dario, and Wayne Newton as Professor Joe Butcher?

What the hell is Wayne Newton doing in a Bond

movie? Now, as I mentioned earlier, David Hedison

appeared for the second time as Felix Leiter.

What's special about this is that he and Jeffrey

Wright share the distinction of both having played

Felix Leiter twice on film, something never before

done in the series. The film actually has a callback

to the Connery era of Bond as well, in that the

mayor of Isma City is played by Pedro Amandares

Jr., the son of the man who played Kareem Bay

in From Russia with Love. This was also the first

film in the series to not take its title from

one of the novels, but rather the often used

term licensed to kill. And the concept of Felix

losing his leg comes from the novel Live and

Let Die, where he loses his right arm. This is

also the last Bond film for six years, as legal

wrangling over the ownership of the character

of 007 would not be settled until sometime in

1993, resulting in a six -year gap until GoldenEye

in 95. License to Kill is on my list of favorite

Bond films for a lot of reasons, not the least

of which is that this was the first Bond movie

that I ever saw that didn't have Roger Moore

starring. But beyond that, the film brought the

franchise back in line with the early Connery

films and gave back a sense of realism to the

character of James Bond. Timothy Dalton, while

playing 007 a lot darker and intense than I was

used to, made me care a lot for Bond. When you

see how angry he is that someone tried to hurt

his best friend, that's just great action. in

my opinion. This has been Just the Facts for

License to Kill. I'm JT from Saskatoon. Back

to M -Wire. All right. Thank you, JT from Saskatoon,

for that pretty awesome Just the Facts on License

to Kill. As I've stated in previous weeks here

on the Shaken on Sturge spotlight, this was the

first Bond film that I remember. Like really

paying attention to as a like as you know nine

ten well well I can't 89 so I was nine I think

I saw this around 90 or 91 whenever it hit VHS.

I don't I don't like nowadays You can pretty

much do clockwork on media release like you know

When the dark night came dark night came out

dirty rises came out in July and here it is,

you know December and it's already out on DVD,

digital, you know, Blu -ray, whatever. Back then,

I couldn't tell you how long it took. Because

back then, movies were in theaters a lot longer,

at least they were to me, than nowadays where,

hey, release a movie in six months, it'll be

on DVD. That's very true. Right now, the big

thing right now is having the... huge opening

weekend because it opens wide pretty much everywhere

very slowly rarely do we get the films that kind

of open in New York and LA and then a few months

later open up in Larger everywhere. I mean that

happens with maybe smaller independent films

or more award -based films when I'll come something

like James Bond It's usually wide everywhere

or comes in with a case of this year where it

releases in Europe and England and then comes

over to America But yeah back in the day a film

would stay in the theater for you know, perhaps

months While now if you're in the theater for

more than two months, that's that's rare that's

usually you have to be a Dark Knight or Avengers

to stay within With yeah, let's stay longer than

a month or so. So yeah, we know right now I know

something comes out in may three or four months.

It's gonna be on a dvd So it's right. It's almost

a guarantee now That's why I think it's kind

of hurting theater guys because they're like

well I could spend 20 bucks to go see this with

my wife or I could just wait A couple months

and I know it's going to be available on home

media. So Yeah, exactly, um, but going back and

watching this again I really enjoyed this one.

I'm right there with you. I never saw this one

before this year. I mentioned with the Living

Daylights, Timothy Dallin's films have this negative

connotation towards them with a lot of Bond fans

that at least I'm friends with. So I kind of

avoided them. I understand where a lot of those

people are coming from, but I'm right there with

you. I really enjoy this movie. I think it's

a better movie than it is a Bond movie. I can

see the issues people have with this because

it does change Bond a lot and it will change

a lot of what we know about the character, but

I overall really enjoyed it and I really don't

get the huge amount of hatred that this film

often gets. Was it yesterday I did You know back

when we Were planning on you know getting ready

for this review I Had made a essentially an open

statement on Facebook about you know my thoughts

on More so the two, at least my personal opinion

on the two worst Bond films in the entire franchise,

which one of them is, you know, Mr. Australian

Jackass as Bond and Quantum of Boredom. Thank

you, Better in the Dark. You know, and in that

I stated that I think that it's better if they

would have just referenced Bond being married

at one point or another Not necessarily made

a movie around him falling in love because as

I as I've stated before here in shaken on stirred

on him wire that Bond for the most part is shown

to be this, you know cavalier fly by the seat

of your pants You know put your dick in anything

Agent and he you know, I mean there's the there's

nothing to him that says anything about, you

know, safe sex or monogamy or anything like that.

And having a movie like On Her Majesty's Secret

Service and having him fall in love and, you

know, want to leave the agency. I get that it

was something different. I understand all that.

But I felt his emotion of him, you know, of him

being married once more in License to Kill when

delia delia or whatever the hell her name is

i think it's delia delia delia i don't know when

she starts bringing it up ice and maybe it's

because timothy dalton can actually act which

lazy b can't uh... i saw more emotion in dalton's

performance of just mentioning the fact that

he was married once then the entire film want

her majesty's secret service you know i i agree

to that The point where the Dalton sells it a

whole lot better than Lason B did because he

you know He is a better actor Lason B doesn't

have that range or really any range. Yeah But

yeah, I complete I agree that that moment I've

probably out of even more when it was mentioned

and when Roger Moore was bought I think Dalton

better than anyone kind of sold that moment and

you can see Like just how like hurt he was but

he didn't want to he didn't want to hurt her

feelings so he kind of just played it off like

it was no big deal but you could just see with

his eyes that that what that meant to him right

and what you know that and that's the thing you

know she's saying all this stuff of you know

hey here's here's my daughter etc etc etc you

know and you can just see the look on Dalton's

face and Felix sees it You know, I mean, Felix

sees the look on Bond's face and that's why,

you know, after Bond walks away, Felix just says

to her, he was married once. It's not, you know,

Felix didn't have to say anything more than he

was married once. I mean, because the acting

performance that Dalton gives in this and just

that moment of his just such a forlorn and sad

look, it's not that kind of vulnerability that

you ever really see from James Bond. And I preferred

that over the entirety of that Lazenby movie.

But that's just my own personal, you know, that's

just my own personal opinion on it. And more

importantly, I think that moment is a big reason,

a big justification for what happens afterwards,

because I think that not only gives us a good

indication of what his feelings was about his

wife, but also his feelings towards Felix. You

know in his wife, I think it also lets us know

how much he cared about them that he would kind

of bite his lip or kind of Go out of his way

not to show how much that meant to him Because

he didn't want to hurt their feelings and put

her in an odd spot. So I think that's a big important

part of why Him going to the lengths he does

is legitimate. So it yeah Yeah, you know this

like this type of quote -unquote revenge film

it's you know getting back its you know this

vendetta is because of something that was done

to a friend of it you know some someone who he

you know two people who he considers you know

his best friends this in this instance i'd don't

mind a revenge film you know rep you know wrap

you know or revenge plot wrapped around bond

uh... Craig you know knew Vesper what maybe six

months that's and we'll and we'll and we'll get

to that when we get to the Craig era but that's

that's really you know anyway so license license

was the last film for six years after because

of legal wranglings and and everything else having

issues what issues Can you hear me? So before

we delve too much further into license, this

was the last film for six years. And honestly,

I don't... Hmm. I don't mind that this was the

last one. I mean, yes, of course we want, you

know, more Bond than I know everyone. Most everyone

that enjoys Dalton's two films and I know you

I know you said it last week with Living Daylights

That you know, what if you know, what would have

happened if we got one at least one more somewhere

between 89 and 95, you know And and I think I

pointed out to you I said as long as you know

as long as it happened before 95 and brought

as if Dalton came back for a third round As long

as it happened before Pierce, I would have been

perfectly happy with that, but if Dalton came

back and it didn't allow Pierce to come in, I

would be so pissed. If the Brosner era never

happened, because then I wouldn't have the love

for the character and the love for the franchise

that I do now. Yeah, and I think the unintentional

positive towards that hiatus was... how the global

climate and how much it changed, you know, because

the Cold War is now over, Russia is now our ally.

So I think having that hiatus, I think it kind

of gave Bond plenty of years to figure out where

it could go with the character, because Bond

is very much a product of the Cold War. So trying

to putting him in the 90s is a difficult challenge,

and we'll get more to that with GoldenEye. But

I think having a larger time frame to fit him

in, I think would have... worked out on their

benefit. I couldn't imagine it could have went

down a very negative way if they try to kind

of continue with Dalton for a third trim. I think

there's a lot of potential there, but in a way

it works out in their benefit having this hiatus

kind of letting the world figure itself out and

then coming back with a new Bond movie. Exactly.

And as I believe I've stated in other Think I

stated this in the GCR bond episode that you

and I did and I know I stated it last week in

daylights after 1991 and Rocketeer, I don't think

I can see I don't think I could have seen then

Dalton as bond After you know playing Neville

Sinclair the Nazi, you know, you know, I just

cuz Dalton always outside of My liking of of

daylights and and license He to me always plays

villain characters he he is he he has that you

know villain type of Attitude to me that's that's

what that that's a type of actor. He is he he

plays great villains Yeah, I'm not saying he

doesn't do bond justice. I'm not saying that

his version of you know the way he portrayed

bomb was bad I'm just saying that I just In generally,

when you think of when I think of Timothy Dalton's

name, I don't think of heroes at all. Yeah. His

smirk is very villainous. When I think of Timothy

Dalton, I tend to think of hot fuzz and his character

and that and how well that works. But yeah, he

he he is excels at doing villains, I think better

than he did at Bond. I like him as Bond, but

when he's kind of playing the other end of the

spectrum, I think he is he is at his best. Yeah.

So the overall JT broke down the plot for us

but The whole point to this film for the villain

was stinger missiles Really? Yes, it it was odd

to have kind of the drug aspect to it and that

aspect to it and I think it really just got in

the way of a good revenge film I don't think

they needed that I think they could have just

made it bond trying to seek revenge for his friend

that other stuff wasn't really necessary I mean

it's fine for it to be there but as being as

big as a part of it that it was it didn't really

do anything it just things made things overly

convoluted, but it's like that common bond trope.

We need this grand scheme and these twists and

turns and that usually works, but for this story,

it's a more personal story. So straightforwardness

would probably benefit it in a lot of ways. Yeah.

We've got a very unique cast in this film. Many

who we've all seen before, but two that I didn't

even know. Well, I knew, but I didn't know where

to place them and I had to look them up. Obviously

Dalton is back as Bond. You've got Carrie Lowell,

who is Pam Bouvier, ex -army pilot and CIA informant.

First time I, like, when she came on screen,

more so in the hotel scene with Q, And she's

got that, essentially that plunging neckline

there. That's the first time I realized, hey,

I know I've seen her in something before. She

was in law and order. She is one of the district

attorneys in law and order next to Jack McCoy.

I'll get to that later. And Robert Davy, Sanchez's

character, he was... Agent Johnson in Die Hard.

No, not that Agent Johnson, the other one. He

was the white Agent Johnson in Die Hard a year

earlier. I'm like, the whole movie, I'm like,

where have I seen this guy before? I recognize

the face. I don't recognize the voice. I recognize

the face. Now, where have I seen him before?

And I looked him up and I was like, oh yeah,

he's Agent Johnson from Die Hard. Yes, the cast

is a very eclectic, you know, range of character

actors to lounge singers with Wayne Newton, which

is probably one of the most strange choices for

a Bond role is Wayne Newton. But hey, it's a

Bond film. It was the eighties. Why not? Yeah.

And you got Talisa Soto as Lupe Lamora. This

is Probably the one of... I don't know how many...

I wonder how many Bond films are there that just

have regular Bond girls names instead of, you

know, something like Pussy Galore or Octopus

or, you know, something that's a pun. Because

this is one of those ones that the Bond girls

just have regular names. They don't... They don't

have names that are supposed to be funny or,

you know, double entendres or anything like that,

so... Now, there's this, I mean, Honor of Majesty,

Secret Service. Most of Casino Royale, I mean,

Casino Royale and most of the Gregera, to a certain

extent, there are a few characters in there,

but yeah, it's very odd to have no Bond Girl

with some type of, you know, punterific name

that are just... Yeah. Benicio Del Toro's in

this as Dario, one of Sanchez's henchmen, one

of the... One of the worst bond henchmen in history

he It's you know made to You're made to think

that he rapes before he kills Felix his wife,

but you obviously we never see it So in that

sense he's an evil bastard, but he is a henchman

that essentially does nothing he's more Barf

and bite for sure. Um, yeah, I like del torres

performance He almost felt like a side character

in scarface in a way. Um, but yeah his character

doesn't really It's more of a plot piece than

an actual character. That's meant to change the

scenario I mean what he does is reprehensible,

but Overall, he's not as memorable as other characters

like jaws or odd job or he's he's more straightforward

and realistic And I think because of that he's

not as memorable Yeah And of course you've got

Desmond Llewellyn back as Q. You've got Robert

Brown back as M. You've got Caroline Bliss back

as Miss Moneypenny. You've got Cary Hiroyuki

Tagawa. I've seen this guy in plenty of stuff

that I never thought I would ever see him in.

Most people are going to recognize this guy.

As Shang Tsung from Mortal Kombat the first Mortal

Kombat combat film I've seen him in plenty of

other stuff though most notably he was in Like

the first two and a half seasons in Ash Bridges

But it was just weird to me seeing him in a Bond

film It was cool, but it was still weird. Yeah

this This was like who's not a who's who but

it was a random actor of the random actor that

you're gonna recognize I think for a big reason

why these actors are a part of films now that

we watch, unlike in the 60s, there are as many

character actors in those films, but they're

part of movies that we've never seen. They're

not as common as these characters. We're seeing

them in TV shows we watch. We see them in movies

we watch. But during the 1960s, a lot of those

actors, they're not as iconic as someone like

Sean Connery, so we don't really pick on them.

pick up on it as much as we do with a film like

this or later with the Brosnan movies. Yeah.

Yeah. You know, and overall, I mean, the cast

is just really, really well done. You know, there

isn't, you know, granted some of the characters,

like I said, Del Toro's actual character that

he plays is kind of forgettable, but You know

overall the casting is great as far as the movie

itself I'm glad they didn't go with the original

title Original title of this movie was supposed

to be license revoked that would not That just

would not have been marketable I don't think

no it sounds kind of like a bond um summer teenage

comedy you know bond license revoked spring break

or something like that it doesn't sounds sounds

like a bad james bond jr episode yeah that's

that's perfect for it yeah that's like going

with license kill was a better choice by four

and it makes sense as far as the title goes because

throughout the history to this point you know

And whoever else I believe I believe Q has said

it a couple of times I could be wrong if it I

don't know I don't remember off top my head right

now if Q has said it but they've always said

007 has a license to kill and it's it's better

to It's better advertising, you know, like like

I like I introduced this episode, you know, we're

gonna find out why exactly James Bond has a license

to kill I mean that's that you know that's how

it's Catchier that way. It's a lot catchier than

quantum of solace for sure Yeah You know there

are a few people that did their uh... bond licenses

revoked for not putting in any uh... any brosden

era bond girls and blogs but anyway uh... you

know overall uh... the movie was just so just

so good let's uh... let's go ahead and get into

uh... well before we get into the highlights

and lowlights the music the song oh my god that

song was awesome Gladys Knight from Gladys Knight

in the Pips sang the The lead song license to

kill and I love that song I Guess I ought to

be in the other. I don't dislike that song. I

just I don't know. It's just not my type of music

I'll just I love right gladys night isn't she

saw and she's good at what she does. It just

doesn't resonate with me I it's not a song i

just there's bond songs which i hear and i really

despise what i this one it was just it was there

i understood it the lyrics were okay but it was

one of my favorites compared to okay sticking

with just the dalton films i would say license

to kill is Better than the Living Daylights as

far as the songs go because let's face it as

I said last week with Living Daylights Aha is

essentially a one -hit wonder band with take

on me They have no other songs that I remember

other than that song and when I heard like I

Prefer the license to kill song over the Living

Daylights song. Yeah, I agree with you that I

think the like the Living Daylights song was

just them attempting to kind of rehash what they

did with Avito Kill. Duran Duran, yeah. This

one was at least unique. It was different for

a Bond film. Yeah. I appreciate them trying something

different. I think when they try to be derivative,

it never works out. So I do appreciate that.

But it just didn't work for me. Nothing against

it, personally. Just one of those things. Yeah.

All right. So a couple of highlights. Actually,

I've got a lot of highlights from this one. I

guess I really like this one. I love how the

film opens the action is just great and it just

goes to show you What an action star Dalton is

or you know was back then? I don't know. What

is he I'm gonna have to look him up and see what

he's done any you know anything in the last ten

years I don't know if he's one of those actors.

Hey, I'm retired, you know, I'm not sure I'll

have to look him up as we're talking here, but

just how the film opens all the action and you

know You know parachuting into a wedding now,

that's an entrance It's like, you know stealing

the show But I Just I love the whole opening

sequence here, what did you think about it? Did

you have any highlights in the opening sequence?

Yes, I did I think we'll get to this when we

talk about skyfall, but Christopher Nolan has

mentioned how much the Bond films have influenced

him as a director and how that's kind of come

full circle. I think you kind of... Possibly

can see one example of how it influenced him

because I got flashback to the Dark Knight Rises

from earlier this year with the helicopter hanging

the airplane upside down as it was flying away.

It just reminded me very much of the scene in

Dark Knight Rises where Bane escapes from the

plane and they have the large cargo plane come

and destroy it in mid -air. Obviously, I don't

know this for sure, but they do seem very similar

in knowing how Nolan has and admiration for the

Bond series kind of see how they kind of tie

in. So, yeah, I did. I did really like the opening

and. Tiffany Daltons opening from last movie

in this movie are two of the better openings

and really good action a good mixture of action,

too Not only is there action here, but it's purposeful

and it affects the story later in the movie And

I appreciate when the opening sequence has a

purpose to it I mean, I like the ones that are

kind of just one -offs. Those are fine But I

like seeing it and how it affects the movie later

on as well and this one certainly does Yeah I

love the scene I liked as when he snuck into

the plant and he flips the guard into the feeding

drawer. That was awesome. When he's in the fish

tank, when he's at Crest's place looking for

the shark. Yeah, yeah. When he's trying to do

some bond detective work to figure out what happened

to Felix. Right. Right, and the guards find him

and he flips one of them into the feeding drawer.

Yeah. Yeah, not a good place for anyone to be.

No. And I've said this before in many places.

I believe I've said it here in the Shaken Out

Stardust series in MWIRE as well. Normally I'm

not a fan of underwater scenes in anything because

they slow the 50 for me Underwater scenes slow

the film down so much When we get to tomorrow

never dies That's one thing that I don't like

about that film is the underwater scene with

the with with Bond and Waylon Looking for the

missing missile and all that but anyway In this

one, I felt the underwater scenes did not slow

it down. I felt that it was fairly good stuff.

And there's not a lot of underwater scenes here,

but there is just one point in the movie where

it's an underwater scene, and it goes a lot faster

than I normally see underwater scenes going.

And I really like that. Yeah, seeing him use

a spear gun to do water skiing was pretty fun.

My only issue with the 100 water scene was I

didn't understand the purpose of them having

this contraption going underneath the water to

the airplane that was further away, because no

one else was there. And there was no one else

looking at them. So it seemed like this huge

like. To do about nothing because it's like they're

just right there You can just hand it to them

like why are you making this huge? Underwater

contraption and doing all this when it's just

seems pointless, but it led to a fun scene. So

I'm like, all right, whatever It's a bond movie.

You're gonna have that but yeah, that Bona is

some great underwater scenes and there are like

you mentioned aren't a huge amount But they keep

them going and the action overall is very mixed

There's a lot of different areas that it hits

upon and I think that's one thing I enjoyed about

it My next one was, hey look it's Jamie Ross

from Law and Order. Jamie Ross is Carrie Lowell's

character name in Law and Order. She was on the

show, she was on Law and Order Prime from 96

to 2001. I believe her character was one of the

ones that replaced Angie Harmon's Abby Carmichael

character. So that's, I knew I had seen her from

somewhere and I had to look her up as I was watching

the film. And I was like, oh, so that's where

I've seen her before. When we get to The Craig

Air and Skyfall, this next line makes so much

more sense now. Because as I said, I hadn't seen

this movie. I hadn't seen License in so long.

So this is the film that the gun coating came

from. Yeah. That's pretty awesome. Yeah, I forgot

that was in this I throw you walk every walk

I watched this and then I saw skyfall and then

coming back being watching it again I'm like,

oh, yeah that's happened before and I couldn't

remember if it was this film or a different bottom

of me But yeah, yeah Wow Shang Tsung is a good

guy. That's kind of strange I love I Love it,

you know late later on in the film the truck

scenes. Those are so awesome The tanker truck

scenes. Yes. I've said before, when we first

started this, talking about Dr. No, how I like

the car chase and that and how I like a lot of

the car chases and a lot of the scenes in the

earlier Bond films. Again, it just goes to show

you that. Bond films can do chases amazingly,

and we'll see another amazing chase next week

when we get to GoldenEye, but the tanker truck

stuff was just simply amazing. I thought that

was great. Yeah, I like it best with Bond when

he had some great car chases, but some of my

favorite are ones when he uses some type of odd

vehicle, like a tanker truck or a bus. And there

are certain moments in that that I kind of cringe

that, but we're fine. And like when he has the

when he tries to dodge the missile by putting

up on two wheels. Not the most practical way

to dodge a missile, but hey, it was pretty amazing

to see. And the fact that they actually got a

Tinker truck to be on just half of its wheels,

which is crazy. I love ski mode for a truck.

That's awesome. And then when he does a wheelie

with it, I'm like, OK, that's physically impossible.

But OK, what are you going to do? You know what

you know like you said earlier you see where

Nolan got his his influence for some of his Filmmaking

as soon as I saw the truck do the wheelie. I'm

like, hey, is it gonna flip over? Did not pick

up on that but that's a good point Don't you

want to know why that was that has to be one

of the best bond villain deaths In the entire

franchise, the effect of of Sanchez being lit

on just the way that it's done in the in the

visual, just the visuals of how they pulled that

effect off when he first sets him on fire. I

was like, holy shit, is that an awesome visual?

And it was fitting that he uses a lighter that,

you know, Felix gives them a nice that's Well,

that's what I mean. He asks him, don't you want

to know why? He pulls out the lighter, and obviously

it's inscribed. But that's... That, like, two

-second scene of Sanchez dying, that was just

simply amazing. I loved that. Yeah, and usually

with Bond, the final death, it comes because

of some Q -gadget, like, you know, he has the

keychain or his watch, and this, it was because

of something that Felix gave him, and I think

it fits with the purpose of the movie, so it

was a nice little touch that they had there.

What did you like about license? What are some

of your highlights on it? I think it's fitting

that this movie comes out in 1989 because it's

This combination of a lot of 80s things crammed

into one movie in a good in a good way I mean

this came out the same year as what Roadhouse

but during the bar scene You can't help but think

back to you know, Patrick Swayze and more Roadhouse

I was surprised there wasn't a cameo there, but

and there's other things like It touches upon

Wall Street and the stock market a little bit

and how that mindset was going during this time

period. The greed is good type of things. A very

Miami Vice type plot with the characters as well.

They could have been right out of a Miami Vice

episode or part of the Scarface films. It was

a very common theme during this time with drugs

and the cartels. And stuff like that and is very

derivative of those also during the tanker truck

car chase I kind of had flashes back flashbacks

to road warrior because it reminded me with the

plane up up ahead, you know As these two truckers

could go down the road. It reminded me a lot

of road warrior I don't know if that was intentional

or not, but it had very a lot of similarities

to that car chase So I appreciated that kind

of it was a good way to kind of end a decade

with this movie that took all these different

pop culture elements and put them into one film.

Yeah, I'm glad they didn't decide to use Joker

gas in this, though. Yes, or a gigantic Joker

gun to take out. So funny. All right. I only

have, you know, like I said, going back and watching

this, I only have three low lights on this one.

Overall, this was. This almost, if it wasn't

for the Brosnan era, this almost would be my

number one favorite Bond film. Oh, wow. Minus

the Daniel Craig era and minus Goldfinger. This

might have been my number one favorite Bond film,

but I do have three different lowlights here.

why is it that all major criminals in films like

this are always transported in large obvious

armored cars as soon as i saw sanchez be put

into that i'm like yeah he's gonna escape i know

he is it's basically putting a huge target on

him and again similar to dark knight with similar

to dark knight yeah so it in in a way it's similar

because you have this huge car chase with them

getting the escape in the end. But yeah, it is

kind of funny. This huge armada does more harm

than good, really. Yep. Wow, that waitress was

a ditz. Oh my god. She doesn't notice. OK. I

can see, like, have you ever seen Gross Point

Blank? It's been a very long time, but yes. OK,

do you remember the diner scene between Cusack

and Akroyd? I believe it. I know what you're

getting at. They're sitting there. They come

in. They're sitting there. They're brown bagging

it to obviously hide the fact that they're pointing

guns at each other. But they're sitting there

this whole time. And the waitress is just kind

of oblivious, and she wants to know what they

want. You know what I mean? And this waitress

in this is kind of like the same thing, where

it's like, you know. She comes up to them and

says, oh do your friends want something not even

realizing that they're criminal I just oh god

that waitress pissed me off so much. Oh my god

I was like there had seen when they're all fighting

and then there's that one girl dancing in the

background and she just Continues dancing as

nothing is happening. Like this just yeah, like

yeah, this just happens. Oh, yeah the script

joint Yeah, it's just like this is what happens

on Saturday nights people shooting shotgun holes

and walls and we just accept it as the norm That

was kind of funny. Wayne Newton with any kind

of facial hair just looks weird to me. Wayne

Newton in this just looks strange to begin with.

He does make a good televangelist type of character,

but his acting is not the greatest. It's Wayne

Newton. He's an American icon. He's a Las Vegas

icon is what he is. For better or for worse.

I don't know. Did you have anything that you

didn't like about this one? I guess my biggest,

the biggest struggle this film has is we mentioned

it's more personal, it's more violent than any

other Bond film, but it also tries to be a Bond

film at the same time. And I think that struggle,

it struggles with that. Like having a Cucine,

I understand why it's there, but it feels out

of place when you have things like rape touched

upon or a violent of this nature, a person being

like Microwave to death or a person You know

having having like violence of this level and

still trying to be goofy at the same time It's

that juxtaposition is is off -putting. It's not

I think they handle it really well But that is

probably the biggest struggle of the film first.

I think the perfect example is What they do the

Felix lighter, you know, they? Having him being

like eaten by a shark it ended up being goofy

rather than being emotionally effective if Obviously

this wouldn't happen because it'd be too violent

but they hinted at using a chainsaw like similar

to Scarface I think that may have been a better

way but having it be historic which we've seen

done in Bond films time and time again and Trying

to put it in this film. That was kind of being

more mature It seemed like a knowledge choice

and it didn't ruin the movie, but it's just I

think they could have gone a different way with

it And we talked about how great the cast was.

And overall, I agree. But there are a few spots.

Wayne Newton, the actor who plays Sharkey, some

of the DEA agents, their acting is pretty, pretty

subpar. Their side characters are just there.

They're not a huge deal. But overall, Sharkey

is one of those characters that doesn't really

make sense. They present him as a character you're

supposed to care about, but I don't remember

him at all. I don't know why they make him be

a big deal. Sharkey to me is Dalton's Quarrel.

Dalton's Quarrel or Quarrel Jr. Yeah. It's that

whole thing of bringing in someone that Vaughn

knows. And that's the thing with this film, as

you said, it's a more personal film it's you

know it's a revenge plot film because of what

happens to lighter um... honestly i thought felix

was gonna die in this i didn't you know you get

bitten by a shark you're you know it you know

if your legs are bitten off obviously you know

you're gonna end up looking like lieutenant dan

and need magic legs after a couple you know i

mean it it it it's one of those things where

i thought felix was going to die honestly did

and I was happy at the end where he shows up

and he seems to be they don't show him from the

waist down but you know I mean he you know he's

got both of his arms because I know at one point

they said in the movie that you know his I forget

which one it was it was like his right leg and

his left arm are pretty much gone and then at

the end of the film you see him with both of

it I mean unless they you know pulled a you know

Unless they pulled a George Lucas and you know

made a robotic arm for him. I don't know You

know what I mean? It's like it's one of those

things where I'm so happy that that happened

I got to say this this film outside of the overall

plot. There's There's one scene that and it's

just it's just because of what the scene is Made

me tear up and just made me realize how how much

that I missed Desmond Welland when Dalton says

you know you're a hell of a field agent Q or

whatever that line is it'll be in the audio somewhere

here in the episode and I just I just lost it

with that scene I just couldn't I had to pause

the movie for a bit because I just couldn't handle

it because this is the one movie out of them

all I think that Q is actually more involved

than he normally is, because normally, you know,

you go to Q Branch, you get your gadgets, and

you go on your way. And then sometime during

the film, maybe Q would show up, or, you know

what I mean? But it's always been brief scenes

with Q, whereas in this one, he was almost a

full -on star of the film. Yeah, he... was more

proactive in this than he typically is. The only

other movie I can think of that we didn't cover

was like Octopus. He was he had a bigger role.

But yeah, seeing him kind of go out of his way

to help Bond, you kind of let you know that there's

always that Bond cue interplay where they kind

of jab each other. But deep down there, they

really care about each other. And like this is

perfect example of how much they will do for

one another. Yeah. Yeah. The only other low light

I had was I think the Bond girls in this were

overall pretty forgettable. And I think the biggest

way you can tell is at the end, there's this

kind of Bond love triangle. And I just didn't

care which one he chose. It didn't really seem

all that important. It is strange that in both

Dalton films, he seems to be monogamous than,

say, More or Connery. But yeah, they were just

kind of... Dalton probably had Out of only having

two movies. I think he never really had a really

strong bond girl unfortunately, but that was

really I Don't know I I really liked What's her

name Bouvier I I thought she was a Perfect side,

you know, not necessarily a side but a perfect

well She and Bond are essentially two sides of

the same coin, I would say, as far as... The

way I look at her is she is a female version

of the CIA, even though she's not CIA, but you

know, you got Bond and Felix, where Felix is

US and Bond is obviously British. Same thing

with Pam, whereas they're two of the same...

I'm glad he chose her over the other chick, because

the other chick was just too weird to me. I think

it's more... When I say... The blood that bomb

on love triangle. Well, I didn't care about it

Don't as big a struggle as always with like the

suave ness with bond and having the relationships

So it like they're they really didn't have any

chemistry. So I think when I say I didn't care

just because Never did they seem like people

they never seem like a couple they just seem

people like people at a similar mission that

were going against a similar enemy and Not to

people that were in love or anything like that

So I think that's probably why at the end when

he's like who is he gonna be with I just didn't

care because Didn't seem like he should be with

any of them And this will come back a couple

weeks from now when we talk about tomorrow never

dies But yeah, I know I totally agree with you.

It seemed like they had more of At first throughout

the entire film they had more of a you know 70

80 90 year old couple who has been buried for

60 something years type of vibe to them where

they're always arguing and he's always trying

to protect her and she's You know trying to stand

up for herself and all this and all that but

and at the end it's like There are so many times

I wanted to smack her for being jealous Because

it was it just it didn't she as much as I like

Carrie Lowell or Lowell or her we say her name,

you know, I I just don't I Don't buy her as a

bond girl. I just don't I you know, it would

have been interesting and I know this didn't

happen Obviously, it would have been interesting

if she was money penny and not who she was You

know, yeah, I I think she would have played a

really really good money penny But yeah, overall,

I mean... I honestly, between this week and last

week, I honestly don't remember who the pond

girls were in the living daylights. I know that's

bad, but I just don't remember them. Alright,

so anything else on license to kill? No, that's

pretty much all my highlights and lowlights.

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license to kill the thing that always comes to

mind is that it's a better movie than it is a

Bond movie a lot of people don't like it because

it takes bond in a different path and he usually

is which I Understand and I think when it tries

to be a Bond movie it usually struggles But when

it tries to stay true to what it was attempting

it's a better film. I overall enjoyed I'd like

to meet the Dalton's era as Bond We only get

two films. I think another one would have been

great without it You know, it's better It's better

to leave us wanting more than give us one more

like Roger Moore and have us wishing he would

just stop So it's better to end it like this

for adult and then continue well past his prime

Yeah, I think it's a it's a solid bond film that

I think people need to Understand what they were

going for and kind of get over there Pidget -holing

of the character of bond and if they can do that

they can see a lot of goodness here Yeah I mean,

with the living daylights, as far as just kind

of like, you know, final thoughts on on on on

Dolphins era, with the living daylights, I I

liked it. I believe I said last week that I felt

it was too long. Same thing with this. I I would

sit here and because I'm because as I'm watching

the movie, I'm also like sometimes I'm getting

clips or maybe I. Stopped at the screen cap an

image or whatever This movie actually took me

three and a half hours to watch it's only a two

hour and something movie But as I was watching

it, I had the same feeling as I did with a view

to a kill Whereas it's taking too damn long Even

though I love license to kill. I think it's great.

It's an amazing movie. I really enjoyed it Just

watching it for you know to prepare for this

this episode and shaking not stirred It just

it just felt like it went on forever Yeah, and

I think a lot of that has to do with how they

over complicate the plot more beyond what they

need to Yeah, so I think they could have got

rid of that. I never felt it went too long I

just felt I got overly complex and kind of it

got in the way of the main story But Bond films

do tend to always run long, like two and a half

hours. Two hours and 20 minutes is usually the

norm. And sometimes I think two hours is enough

when it comes to the Bond movie, because some

of the plot elements, I think, are filler or

unnecessary. And that was the case time and time

again with this film. Yeah. All right. So we

hope you enjoyed the Bond film review here in

M .Y.'s Shaken, Not Stirred series. I wish you

all join us next week when we will be talking

about oh some sort of angelic music needs to

go in there uh the brosden era we will start

the brosden era with 1995's golden eye for now

i am tfg1mike with uh movie revolt 10 thank you

for listening until next time