007 – Die Another Day Review

You don't seem too pleased to see me. If I'd

had my way, you'd still be in North Korea. Your

freedom came at too high a price. The same person

who set me up then has just set me up again,

so I'm going after him. You're no use to anyone

now. Let's get down to business. Zal killed three

of your men. You get me into North Korea, I'll

take care of it for you. I wasn't enough for

you. Chance to get even. Well, it seems you've

become useful again. Maybe it's time you let

me get on with my job. We call it the vanish.

You're clever than you look. Still better than

looking cleverer than you are. Are you a gambling

man, Mr. Bond? You're at the stakes of it. The

western spy runs, but he cannot hide. I give

you a clue! Jacinta Johnson. Her friends call

me James. Hi, her friends call me James Bond.

Wow. Now, there's a mouthful. So you live to

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with M -Wire. And today, we're going to be talking

about the film that celebrates 40 years of 007,

the 20th overall Bond film in Die Another Day.

Yes, we all are. When did you did? Did you see

this one in theaters? No, it's going to be a

while till I see one in theaters, unfortunately.

I think I've seen this. I think I saw this in

theaters. I honestly couldn't tell you. No, I

know this was back when I used to rent movies

all the time. I don't know why, just this time

in my life, I didn't go to the theaters that

much, mainly because I didn't own a car. So I

didn't really have the transportation. So most

of it was just going in the blockbuster. So that's

how I first experienced the all that is die another

day. think I saw that I remember I think I remember

seeing this on the big screen but I honestly

it was Jesus came on 2002 it came on ten years

ago oh my god yeah I don't remember if I saw

this in theaters or not so let's let's go ahead

and head it over to JT with just the facts and

he's gonna Tell us how to Die Another Day. Die

Another Day begins with James Bond and some other

agents entering into North Korea on a mission

to determine whether or not a Colonel Tan Sun

Moon is trading weapons illegally for diamonds.

Using some gear from MI6, Bond causes a helicopter

carrying a diamond smuggler to veer off course

and land so he and the other agents can take

over. Once on board, they all take off for Colonel

Moon's army base where Bond first meets the stern

Zhao, right hand to Colonel Moon. Zhao sends

a picture of Bond to be identified by a third

party while Colonel Moon demonstrates his weapons

and vehicles to Bond. Zhao receives word of who

Bond really is and alerts the Colonel, who then

uses an anti -tank weapon to kill the other agents

in the chopper. Bond is held by guards when Moon

receives word his father General Moon is headed

to the base for an inspection. Moon orders the

weapons and hovercraft removed and orders Bond

to be killed. Bond then uses his watch to detonate

an explosive hidden in the case of diamonds he's

brought and escapes chasing after Colonel Moon.

Quickly catching up to the main hovercraft, Bond

gets on board and fights with Moon, whose mastery

of martial arts and flamethrower almost win him

the day. But Bond cranks up the motor of the

hovercraft, sucking Moon back against the fan

screen. Moon and the hovercraft then go over

a cliff together, and Bond is captured as an

enemy spy. Over the next year, Bond is repeatedly

tortured on the orders of General Moon, who wants

to know who turned his son. Bond says it's the

same person who betrayed him. Bond is then released

and made to walk across a bridge spanning the

two Koreas and passes Zhao, who's been released

as part of a prisoner exchange for Bond. Bond

is drugged and taken to an MI6 floating hospital

in the harbor of Hong Kong, where M comes to

see him, confirming he was traded for Zhao because

the American's top agent in North Korea was executed,

and the Americans believe Bond gave him up. Bond

denies this and says whoever ID'd him a year

ago must have been the one who gave up the American

agent. Nonetheless, M says his 00 status has

been revoked and he is being benched pending

an evaluation. Drawing on his memories of being

tortured, Bond lowers his heart rate and fakes

a heart attack before escaping and swimming to

shore. Despite looking like Robinson Crusoe,

he makes his way to the Royal Rubian Hotel and

is welcomed by Mr. Chang, the concierge. After

getting a shower and a shave, Bon is sent to

masseuse by Chang, but Bon proves he isn't a

fool, holding the Chinese agent at gunpoint and

smashing the mirror, revealing Chang and two

other agents inside. Bon tells Chang he can help

him get Zhao, who has killed several Chinese

agents if he can get his current whereabouts.

Chang finds Zhao has gone to Cuba and supplies

Bon with a passport and plane tickets to Havana.

Upon arriving in Havana, Bon activates an MI6

sleeper agent who uses his local contacts to

track Zhao to Ilse Las Organas, a small island

off the coast that is home to a gene therapy

clinic. Bon gets a room at a local hotel where

he meets Jacinta Jinx Johnson, another guest.

Making up for lost time, Bon beds the sultry

Jinx and when he wakes the next day, sees her

heading to the clinic island as well. While Bonn

cons his way onto the island, Jinx meets with

Dr. Alvarez, the clinic's founder, who describes

the process of altering his patient's identities.

When Jinx pulls a gun and kills the doctor, torches

her file and sets a bomb to explode. And while

she pulls up a patient file, revealing Zao is

there, Bonn finds the Korean and holds him at

gunpoint, wanting to know who's bankrolling the

operation. Zao escapes and takes off in a chopper

with Bonn and Jinx both in pursuit. Jinx is cornered

by some guards and then dies off a high wall

into the ocean, making her getaway. Having grabbed

a bullet pendant off of Zao in their struggle,

Bon finds diamonds inside that are marked as

coming from a mine in Iceland owned by British

billionaire Gustav Graves, though they are chemically

the same as African conflict diamonds. Bon heads

back to London and tracks down Graves, who is

revealed to be a thrill -seeking adventurer type

under the watchful eye of his publicist Miranda

Frost. Bon goes to an upscale fencing club to

see Graves in action, eventually confronting

him and dueling the charming yet arrogant billionaire.

After their skirmish all but demolishes the club,

Grave invites Bond to Iceland to see a demonstration

of his newest scientific endeavour called Icarus.

Bond then proceeds to an old subway station and

meets with them, who restores Bond to 00 status.

He informs her about the clinic and Zhao, as

well as presenting her with the diamonds. Bond

believes Grave is laundering Conflict's diamonds,

his public façade of banelphint philanthropist,

a cover for a deeper game. Bond also meets with

the new Q formerly R in his lab, where we see

many of the old gadgets Bond has used over the

years. Q gives 007 a new watch, complete with

laser, a hypersonic ring, and an invisible Aston

Martin Vanquish. You must be joking. As I learned

from my predecessor Bond, I never joke about

my work. Aston Martin, call it the Vanquish,

we call it the Vanish. Oh, very good. Bond heads

for Iceland, having been partnered with Miranda

Frost, who's really an undercover MI6 agent,

at an ice hotel Graves has built for his guests.

That evening, Zao arrives and warmly embraces

Graves, who smugly says Bond has been this close

to him and still not seen who he really is. Bond

soon meets up again with Jinx, who banters with

Bonda and Miranda before Graves' demonstration

of Icarus, an orbiting solar mirror that can

reflect the sun's rays over the earth wherever

needed. Jinx disappears during the speech, and

Bond goes to investigate Graves' quarters that

is also said to contain the mine. Bond is almost

captured by guards when Miranda arrives, and

they start making out, pretending to be lovers.

Bond takes her back to his room, where they spend

a few hours together, before Bond goes to take

another look at the dome. We also find Jinx is

investigating the dome as she rappels in from

the top and finds Zhao in a sleep machine in

Grave's office. Before she can question him,

Grave sneaks up on her and takes her out with

a taser glove. When Jinx wakes up, she finds

herself strapped down and being questioned by

Zhao, and while the interrogation is going on,

Bond cuts a hole in the ice outside and swims

in through the lake underneath the dome. Once

inside, Bond rescues Jinx, who is about to be

executed by another of Grave's henchmen. Bond

ambushes him, which allows Jinx to grab the laser

controls and kill the henchmen. Bon asks who

she really is, and Jinx says she's an NSA agent,

and she's on his side. Bon goes to confront Graves,

while Jinx goes to Bon's room to get Miranda.

When Graves enters his office, Bon gets the drop

on in and calls him by his real name, Colonel

Moon. Relieved that the deception is over, Graves

willingly confirms Bon's statement, having undergone

the same therapy that Zhao is receiving. Deciding

that the best disguise would be to hide in plain

sight, Moon shows a disguise based on Bond in

his personality. Miranda then enters the room

holding a gun on Graves, who asks Bond if he

ever found out who ratted on him, and then Miranda

turns her weapon on Bond, answering the question.

It seems the Colonel had seduced her years ago

when she was competing in the Olympics and she's

been supplying him with information ever since.

While Graves mocks Bond, he uses his sonic ring

to shatter the glass floor and escape. Once outside,

Bond takes off in a rocker -powered sled car.

But soon after that, Graves uses Icarus to fire

a solar energy beam at Bond, not only to destroy

him, but to demonstrate the true power of Icarus

to some North Korean generals. Bond sails over

the edge of the ice shelf, firing the breaking

hook just before he falls and ends up dangling

over the surf below. When Graves uses Icarus

to cut a piece of the ice shelf off, 007 quickly

cobbles together a parasail from the parachute

tucked in the back of the car and sails to safety,

while Graves drops a very Bond -worthy one -liner.

Global warming is a terrible thing. As Bon makes

his way back to the hotel Miranda goes with Zao

to taunt Jinx and ensure she cannot escape the

hotel room she's been trapped in. Bon gains access

to his invisible car but is soon discovered and

chased by Zao who has his own tricked out ride

complete with mini mortars and a gatling gun.

As spy and henchmen chase each other over the

frozen lake Graves boards his private 747 and

directs Icarus to fire on the ice hotel intending

to drown Jinx in the ensuing thaw. Bond leads

Zao back towards and into the melting hotel where

their weapons fire hastens to collapse. Bond

allows himself to be cornered by Zao who attempts

to ram Bond into the water below, but 007 uses

his car's invisible mode to move out of the way

and Zao goes down into the water, where Bond

then drops a chandelier on his head. Bond then

quickly rescues Jinx and takes her to a hot spring

near the dome to revive her and after they get

their bearings the pair travel to a command post

in South Korea where they find M chewing out

Jinx's boss Damian Falco for leaking a false

report that Bond had given up the American agent.

Upon finding that Graves has landed at an air

base in North Korea Bond then likes to go after

him with Jinx providing backup. They sail in

on radar -invisible mini -gliders and make their

way to the airbase to assassinate Graves, but

miss the shot and have to get on his 747 before

it takes off. Inside the plane, Graves dons a

control harness for Icarus that his engineer,

Valad, has built and order his father be brought

before him. It seems that General Moon is taken

out of power by a military coup by the hardline

generals Graves met in Iceland. Graves greets

his father warmly, the elder denying knowing

who Graves is, but realizes the truth soon after.

While Bond and Jinx make their way towards the

cockpit, Graves describes his plan. He will use

Icarus to destroy the minefield separating North

Korea from the South, allowing the North to invade.

As he begins detonating the mines, General Moon

holds his son at gunpoint, calling him a madman.

Graves then uses his taser glove to disable his

father before shooting him dead, but when he

turns around he sees Bond, who attempts to shoot

him. 007's aim is thrown off by a nearby shoulder

and the shot takes out a window. The ensuing

decompression sucks Vallade and the other generals

out of the plane and it begins to dive. Jinx

is able to right it before it crashes, but once

it levels out she is discovered by Miranda. Miranda

holds Jinx at sword point in the cockpit. But

before the turncoat agent leads her away, Jinx

directs the plane's flight directly into the

path of the Icarus Beam. Neither Graves nor Frost

realize what is happening until it's too late,

as the beam wreaks havoc on the plane, allowing

Bond and Jinx to turn the tables on their foes.

Though outclassed by the more experienced Frost,

Jinx battles back as best she can until she manages

to impale Frost through the heart with a knife

embedded in a copy of the Art of War. Bond and

Graves also continue to battle after the blast

until Graves gives Bond a taste of the Taser.

Graves continues to insult and taunt Bond as

he straps on a parachute preparing to escape,

but 007 manages to pull the ripcord on Graves'

chute which causes the villain to be sucked out

of the window. Graves desperately holds on for

dear life, but Bond comes and activates the Taser,

which stuns Graves and sends him into one of

the engines. The destruction of the harness also

shuts down the Icarus beam just before all of

the landmines have been detonated. Bond and Jinx

then make their escape, with a helicopter was

strapped in the back of the 747, landing near

a Buddhist monastery. The film ends with a day

being saved and 007 and Jinx making love, while

rolling around in a pile of diamonds. Dying Another

Day opened on November 20, 2002, and was directed

by Lee Tamamori, who also directed Along Came

a Spider and XXX State of the Union. The film

was Pierce Brosnan's fourth and final appearance

as Agent 007, and he was joined in the film with

Halle Berry as Jinx Johnson, Will Younglee as

Carl Moon, Toby Stephens as Gustav Graves, Rosamund

Pike as Miranda Frost, Judy Dench, who once again

reprised her role of MI6 director M, and John

Cleese as The New Hugh. Originally budgeted for

$142 million, Die Another Day went on to make

over $430 million worldwide during its run, making

it the highest grossing Bond film at the time.

Critical response for the film was mixed, with

more reviews than most being negative against

the film. Critic Michael Dakina of Film Threat

said the film was one of the best Brosnan Bond

movies, and was one of the most satisfying. Dana

Stevens of the New York Times said that this

was the best Bond since The Spy Who Loved Me.

But perhaps the most even -handed positive review

came from Austin Kennedy of Film Geek Central,

who said Die Another Day was an over -the -top

action movie best enjoyed with a big tub of popcorn.

Not all were wowed by the film, as James Bernadelli

of RealReviews .net said the film was, and I

quote, "...a stupefying attempt by filmmakers

to force -feed James Bond into the mindless triple

-X mold and throw away 40 years of cinematic

history." Harsh. True, but harsh. But not as

harsh as the fact that both parts of Korea were

rather agitated by the film. The North Koreans

felt the portrayal of Colonel Moon and other

military leaders in the film was insulting, and

the South objected to the love scene where Bond

and Jinx have sex while laying in front of a

Buddha statue. Fans also contributed their voice

to the discussion, with many complaining about

the overreliance of gadgets and the forced product

placement. Die Another Day was not only the first

Bond film of the new millennium, it was also

the 40th anniversary film of the franchise. Producers

capitalized on this by including the scene where

Bond goes through Q's lab in the London underground

and fiddles with some of the classic gear, such

as the briefcase Bond used in From Russia with

Love and the jetpack from Thunderball. The film

was the first in the series to feature a Bond

girl who was famous before she acted in the film

in the role of Halle Berry, who played Jinx.

She had actually had to leave production at one

point to attend the Oscars, where she won Best

Actress from Monster's Ball. Other actresses

considered for the role of Jinx included Whitney

Houston, Saffron Burroughs, and Selma Hayek.

And did you know that the character of Jinx was

meant to be spun off into her own film series?

Much like the character of Weyland in Tomorrow

Never Dies, Jinx was going to get her own movie,

but... obviously never happened. The theme song

was special for two reasons. One is the fact

that Madonna was the first singer of a Bond film

to cameo in the film, and two is the fact that

the intro sequence ties directly into the movie

as we see Bond being tortured before he is released.

I have to say, Die Another Day is not a Bond

film. It's an action movie with Bond in it. I

mean, yeah, Bond movies generally have huge over

-the -top type of scenes that require a healthy

suspension of disbelief. This is a given, but

somewhere between seeing Bond surf that crappy

CGI ocean and being subjected to the worst Bond

theme song of all time, I kinda checked out.

So you can imagine my joy when Casino Royale

came out four years later. This has been just

the facts for Die Another Day. This is JT from

Saskatoon, signing off. My time flies. Why didn't

you establish a record by actually returning

this one? So thank you very much JT for that,

just the facts and breaking down the plot of

the film. This was a poor excuse to throw in

cameos or nods to every other Bond film that

has come before it. The plot is lackluster the

plot is so boring Alright so getting into the

cast I Will say that I loved the pre -title sequence

for this because of the simple fact that it ties

into the title sequence and afterwards This is

one film where everything ties together so well,

at least in the beginning it does. Yeah, I loved

how, honestly, the first half of this movie was

stronger than I remembered. And I loved how I

hated the song, but the animation and the overall

look of the pre -title sequence was surprisingly

dark for a James Bond movie watching. Bond basically

get tortured, you know, this is around, this

is 10 years ago. So this is right when the whole

Cortanimal Bay fiasco was about to hit. So it

was kind of, I don't want to say well -timed,

but it was, it was in the public, you know, public

knowledge at this time of waterboarding and things

like that. So they kind of see that in this movie

and then seeing, hearing a pop. Mandana song

to go along with it is kind of jarring because

they don't really go together, but I love the

pre -title sequence and overall the animations

I usually just put it on mute and watch the animations

because I think I think it looks gorgeous. I

think it's one of the better animated openings

It's a good combination of both the the sexiness

along with just the sheer horror of bond getting

literally the crap kicked out of them for Yeah,

this this movie essentially starts ends at the

pre -title and at the end of the pre -title from

that time until after the title sequence is done

we see those four you know part of that those

14 months where he's getting torture what I loved

about this when I this is the first time I noticed

this about any any Bond film I don't think any

Bond film besides this one has ever done this

they normally when you go to a title sequence

it's just the song The song in the imagery with

this because it was the story of him getting

tortured over 14 months They left the sound effects

in Like him drowning or him screaming or Whatever

it was, you know what I mean? Yeah And I really

really dug that about it Afterwards it kind of

goes downhill from there. Yeah, it's almost like

this is a two movies because the first half and

the second half are so drastically different.

It's crazy the places it goes and the way it

uses to get there. I know a lot of people dislike

the Craig franchise for kind of going against

what Bond's about. And I honestly feel a lot

of this movie goes against what Bond's about

more because of You know the overuse of cgi the

overuse of The over direction slow motion. It's

way too much. I mean we'll get get into that

a little bit more but Yeah, it's not bond bond's

most shining moment for sure I will say that

the one thing I loved about this film was again

the continuing relationship between dench and

brosnan as as bond and m And whereas in yesterday's

episode in The World Is Not Enough where they

were more mother and son, they're still mother

and son to me in this, but it's more so you've

served your usefulness. You need to go away for

a while, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And

she essentially just coldly almost disowns him.

And I like it. I thought it was interesting.

I thought it was really interesting over this

time that we've, you know, not, not necessarily

finally, but we get to see bras and have a different

look as bond. Cause I don't think I could be

wrong. And you'll, you'll, you'll probably correct

me or somebody else to correct me. This is the

first time we've ever seen bond with a beard.

You know what? I can't think of any other time.

I mean, I on top of my head that we see bond

with facial hair. Yeah, so I think you're correct.

I mean obviously for not well people. It's the

internet people love to correct people So I'm

sure the lot of you know, but I honestly can't

think of and any of the time Let's go and get

the bond girls out of the way you got Halle Berry

as Jinx Johnson The NSA agent she's essentially

a goofy female felix lighter, um, except she

works for the NSA Yeah, obviously there's jt

mentioned in the justifacts about the possible

spinoff movie for her Thank god that never happened.

Um, yeah, um this This movie came out like right

after the year after she won the oscar for monsters

ball um, honestly, I I think halliburry looks

great, but I just don't think she's a great actress.

I know she is an Oscar winner, but I think she's

fine in that movie. I don't know if it's really

Oscar -worthy. Sometimes people win Oscars when

they really don't deserve to, and I think that's

definitely the case there, and it kind of proves

it with her career since then. You have Catwoman,

of course, and I think this is her doing her...

best Catwoman impression, because she is pretty

awful in this. Well, this happened before. Catwoman

wasn't until 2004. No, I'm just saying her performance

in this and her performance in Catwoman are pretty

much the same. She doesn't have the ability to

act tough, and she overacts. I think she tries

to give out this false bravado that it's so transparent,

and it just doesn't work. She's got a bunch of

great one -liners, and I do really enjoy the

end scene with her and Bon, but other than that,

yeah, her performance in this is essentially

forgettable. And then you got Rosamund Pike as

Miranda Frost. I honestly don't get the appeal

of this chick. I just don't get the sexual appeal

of this chick. I consider Miranda to be similar

to Xenia from Goldeneye. If I was going to go

for a bad Bond girl, I would pick Xenia over

this bitch. I think she's supposed to be cold.

She's almost not. She's supposed to have this

kind of... Miranda Frost, obviously. She's supposed

to be almost... I guess she's supposed to be

the anti -Bond girl, which may be why. she kind

of fits that mold. I think she's like her performance

fits her character. I kind of liked how she kind

of turned evil and I think she was pretty, handles

herself well in those action moments. But overall,

and compared to Halle Berry, I'd rather she had

a bigger role compared to what Halle Berry did.

But yeah, I don't think she's, I would never

put her on a list of the best Bond girls. She's

just kind of there. Yeah, she's, yeah, she's

just kind of there. You've got Rick Yoon as Zhao.

I liked him. I thought he did a good job. I liked

the character. I always thought he had more diamonds

in his face than what he did. I remember I could

have sworn in the beginning scene when the diamonds

exploded that his face was more disfigured than

what it actually is. Apparently, I was wrong.

You got Will Young Lee as Colonel Moon, who is

the rogue North Korean Army Colonel. You've got

Toby Stevens as Colonel Moon's counterpart or

afterlife. Gustav Graves, a British entrepreneur

and the main antagonist. Yeah. Gustav Graves

is essentially a poor man's Alec Trevelyan. Yes,

Gustav didn't have any real connection with James

Bond as far as what Alec did in Goldeneye, but

it's essentially a poor man's 006. I always felt

like they were trying to do a callback to You

Only Live Twice doing the opposite of what they

did there, taking Bond and making him... And

you got John Cleese as Q this time. He is listed

as Q. I don't mind this because the sadly he

only had one film to actually Do something that

wasn't a total joke? And this is what I meant,

you know the other day when we talked about the

world is not enough when when Cleese comes back

in this he He is more of an homage here to Desmond's

character of Q than he was, obviously, and the

world isn't enough. And I really liked it. I

thought Khalees could have been Q for many, many

more years after this performance. Obviously,

that didn't happen with what eventually happened

with the franchise, but I really felt that he

was the next Q. Yeah, I think he fits right in

line with what Have what the queue of before

and I would be fine if he continued if the bond

Fram films kind of stayed in the same vein as

This as Brausens films, but I'm considering where

they went with it. I can understand how they

kind of went a different direction But yeah,

I think he's fine as Q. I think he's a good choice

to fill that role And of course Colin salmon

is back as Charles Robinson, we all know I like

him so that that's very very awesome And then

you've got a bunch of other people that I don't

really It's like the the the manager of the cigar

factory The Peace of Mountains of Desire the

the Chinese agent working for mr. Chang Undercover

as a masseuse hell she was almost a better bond

girl. Yeah, I Honestly thought that she was gonna

pull something out of her ponytail to stab him

And of course, this is Samantha Bond's final

appearance as Ms. Moneypenny. Very interesting

way to send off Moneypenny. We'll get to that

as well. You've got Michael Madsen in this as

Falco, who is Jinx's superior in the NSA. That's

an interesting one -shot role to see Madsen in.

Yeah. He's kind of like jinx is M and I like

Michael Madsen He's good if he's has a good director

behind him like he's in all Tarantino's films

and Pulp Fiction or was our dogs and kill Bill

But he's also known to check out of movies and

he is completely checked out on this like the

scenes that he's in I just they're pretty Let's

just say there I could he makes Halle Berry look

good at moments like that's kind of his point

I like Michael Madsen, but he He cannot give

a shit at times and you can tell in this he's

just he's just there Yeah, oh Any overall thoughts

on the overall cast? Honestly besides just em,

I mean, you know the main players that have been

here before No one really sticks out besides

the ones we mentioned that we did dislike the

bomb girls The everyone else is kind of just

you know minor characters are really aren't any

really Smaller actors or anyone that really makes

me Go back and we watch this or kind of just

there's some it's rather no no no name cast compared

to all Brosnan's other films It's more more before

I say it's more of a foreign cast because obviously

they're joining with North Korea But even there

that most of the North Korean actors they have

if they're even North Korean aren't really well

known Yeah, I do recognize the guy that played

General Moon. I recognize him from somewhere

I don't know what he might have been in a an

episode of a TV show I saw once or something

and I do recognize Will Young Lee I've seen him

in other stuff. I think that at this at this

point in 2002 I had seen him in the 2002 2003

when that stupid show come out The TNT series

which played with Yancy Butler, he was in that

in the first couple episodes until he died. Until

the character in that series he played died.

But I liked him. But overall the cast is just...

Like you said, outside of the main players, the

cast is just new. I find really interesting,

and I'm not sure. I don't think JT mentioned

this in the Justifacts, but I could be wrong.

The sex scene between Bond and Jinx, the first

time on screen in the series in which Bond is

depicted in actually having sex as opposed to

a post -coital scenario, had to be trimmed for

the American market. An earlier cut of Die Another

Day featured a brief moment, seven seconds in

length, in which Jinx is heard moaning strongly.

The MPAA ordered that the scene be trimmed so

that Die Another Day could get the expected PG

-13 rating. The scene was cut as requested, earning

the film a PG -13 rating for action, violence,

and sexuality. I wouldn't mind a rated R Bond

film, dammit. Fuck you, you anonymous people.

Yeah, that's funny because a PAA prides themselves

on saying they never tell people exact things

to cut out in order to make it Peter 13 so Yeah,

I don't know I'd like to me that's kind of hypocritical

because we can't have that but we can have all

these people dying and Everything like that and

people get shut on the face and that's okay.

But someone like in we can have people obviously

have sex but if we have someone moaning that's

that's taking it too far i just i don't know

that's one reason the mpaa is a bunch of big

joke yeah um the music in this as we said um

an electronica bond theme no thank you um madonna

really sold herself to the devil when she did

this i think as as much as i like some of her

other music i And again, it goes to our point

of any other females in this film, obviously

any other, you know, hot young females in this

film could have been better Bond girls than what

we had. Hell, even is this the first time? one

of the performers is actually in the film because

Madonna is in this as the fencing instructor.

Yes, I think it is. I don't think Paul McCartney

showed up in Live and Let Die. I'm guessing knowing

Madonna, it was probably part of her contract

that she had to show up in one moment or another.

I don't know why. I understand because Madonna

is one of the biggest icons ever and Bond's one

of the biggest movie franchises ever, combining

those two. But this song, it doesn't feel like

a Bond song. It doesn't go along with what they're

doing. I just don't know. I'm just trying to

make Bond seem edgy by putting this techno song

in there. I guess I don't know if it's techno.

I just know it's not good. But yeah, I'd probably

rank this as the lowest Bond song we've talked

about so far. Oh yeah, most definitely. This

is not one I could ever listen to ever again.

So let's get into the highlights and lowlights.

It's so weird that I, even though I don't, I

probably, I can overlook a lot of the stuff in

this. Just because it is the 40th anniversary

is the 20th Bond film and it is Brosnan's final

film But I do have several different lowlights

that we'll get to but I don't know I found myself

writing more stuff down that I liked about it

than I disliked about it The again I get to say

the pre -titled sequences in the in the entire

Brosnan era have been so thrilling and very satisfying

action pieces. I mean, this is a damn good action

piece, I think, in this one. Yeah, I like how

every pre -title sequence he's had has tied into

the actual movie. Like, it's just not a one -off

action moment. It's important to the overall

plot. And I do like that about that. And besides

that, they're just really fun. I think there

hasn't been a bad one. Probably the bass is...

I don't know. I don't know what the best one

would be. I think they're all pretty Really good.

This might and this compared to I Don't know.

That's a good question. I can't think of which

one would be the best but I love it to the hovercraft

and Overall just all the crazy action that goes

on I think it's the surfing the surfing I could

do without but the surfing in the beginning is

so much better than the surfing and that comes

on later So I completely forget about it Yeah

As hot as Jinx is, Honey Rider did it better.

I know it's an homage, you know, Hallie coming

out of the water is an homage to when the Honey

Rider character did it in Dr. No, but Honey Rider

did it better, I think. I do really enjoy, though,

the wink that Jinx gives Bon before the cliff

dive. I thought that was really interesting,

because I didn't expect that at all. Yeah, and

look at the cool thing about her coming out of

the water too is like how she has that little

like dagger thing that Ursula Andrews had in

And honey, honey writer had in dr. Now. Yeah,

I don't know why she has it She's just walking

on the beach with a knife. I think people would

be kind of Worried about that. But uh, you know,

it's a nice little callback that I appreciate

Yeah Everyone seems to have a huge problem with

an invisible car How is that any different from

any other bond gadget or vehicle from the past

19 films? Each film has increased the tech and

vehicle mods over time up to this point I Could

see that in a way. There's a certain a limit

though, right? I mean a Limit to me for a bond

film would be like hey, let's transport the Aston

Martin from point a to point B with you know

a holodeck or what you know, you know, you know

something so out of the ordinary like a Camouflage

car for bond that that makes sense to me that

I don't know why it just it makes sense to me

I don't understand why people hate this film

so much just because of that one thing I don't

I don't know you Jessica so that one thing but

I guess too It's like it's invisible but still

makes noise. So aren't people gonna hear it behind

them. I mean That is true And again with the

cars, I love the ice chase with the two Aston

Martin vanishes. I thought that was great. Yeah,

that I didn't mind. I don't know where they filmed

that, but I thought overall just that having

those two cars, that's really good stunt work

and I wish this movie had more stunt work like

that. Seeing these two cars like, you know, flip

and slide all over the place in that like glacier

-like sequence. That was pretty fun, I think.

We all know that Moneypenny is the one woman

in Bond's life that he has too much respect for

her just to quote -unquote sleep with her, yet

in this film they put a twist with the virtual

reality glasses. I'm glad it happened with the

Brosnan films and not any other Bond because

it would have been way too weird. And again,

I know this scene is another reason why people

don't like this movie is because, oh, that would

never happen, blah, blah, blah, blah. Think of

a virtual reality sequence as like a dream sequence.

We know it didn't happen in real life. But it

was nice to see Moneypenny do something other

than just sit behind her desk. Yeah, I guess

part of that, too, is one of the worst plot devices

you can ever do is, oh, it was all a dream. I

personally, that's people. It's kind of an easy

out. But it made sense with this, because it's

something people wanted to see. And they can

kind of satisfy people finally seeing it after

40 years. But then it didn't happen, really.

So I didn't really mind it. I thought it was

a nice little switcheroo thing. It didn't really

bug me. What are some of your highlights, if

any? I do have some highlights. Honestly, going

back and watching this, I remember when I first

watched it, I had a really bad taste in my mouth

after I shunned the Bond franchise for a long

time. So I finally went back and we watched it

this year and I was surprised on how strong the

first half was. I was like, wow, this is a lot

different than I remembered because I just thought

of all the craziness in the second half. we talked

about the opening sequence with the torture and

after that how he's walking down that Walk away

and you think well, is he gonna get shot like

what's going obviously? He's not gonna get shot.

But like what's going on here? I like that opening

sequence. He's just walking and he has no idea

There's no cue gadget to save him and then you

just find out he was traded So like his failure

led to someone getting away. I like that. That

was that was that was good One of the action

sequences that I also really liked was a fencing

sequence. Unfortunately, that's when Madonna

showed up but after she showed up that it reminded

me of the classic Adventures of Robin Hood not

the one from the 90s but the one from the 30s

and that fantastical like over -the -top action

with all the sword fighting and I really dig

that type of action so I really found that really

fun it did go on really long but I was really

liking it other things we talked about I did

like the queue scene and seeing all the different

gadgets from 40 years ago kind of all in one

room. That was pretty cool. Rosa Klebb, the alligator,

there was a lot in there. Like you end up pausing

that and kind of going and looking at everything

they threw in that room. And that was one of

the - This thing still work. Yeah. That was one

of the few homages that I think worked well and

it made sense. So that was pretty cool. But yeah,

overall. I think there are some positive aspects

to this movie. I know people like to kind of

crap on this movie and I do as well, but there

are some things in there that are worth mentioning.

I think we kind of talked about them, but that's

all I have for my highlights. For lowlights,

one of the things I didn't like about this movie

is that It's never in 40 years. I don't think

it's ever been mentioned. I don't even think

it's been alluded to I don't think we've ever

even heard of it Wait a minute do all spies even

Americans get cyanide I guess with bonds abilities

You know to stand up under pressure He would

have thrown his away But that just felt off to

me during the end scene in the beginning where

it's like I threw my cyanide away years ago It's

like why would like okay? I know like bad guys

you know the the villains of the pictures usually

get cyanide pills but and cyanide will come back

when we talk about um the sky falling but uh

it's just it's one of those things where that

scene that just those lines just really pissed

me off about this movie because it was like James

Bond would never use cyanide. He just no no no

matter how Broken he got he would always stand

up to it I've never seen him as someone having

to use cyanide that just pissed me off I think

too is this bonds never he's one that's never

gonna think he's gonna get caught like he's you

know He seems he's gonna get out of every situation

That's why he tends to go and head first. So

yeah, I kind of agree with you Yeah, wait a damn

minute when bond uses the ring on the cars windshield

shouldn't there have been Shards of glass in

jinx because she was on the windshield after

he crashed into the wall Into the wall of ice

to get her out She was on the windshield when

he set the ring off and the thing exploded the

the window the windshield She should have been

dead right there Yeah, I guess I'd never broken

a window with a wing before, so I'm not sure

how the glass is affected if it goes back to

sand or what exactly the end result is. So yeah,

I'm just considering everything else that happened.

I never even thought of that. But yeah, that's

a good point. Graves slash Moon was by far one

of the more useless Bond villains. I mean, seriously,

a solar powered plot, really? Scaramonga at least

did that better and we've also already seen it

like a satellite pot with golden eye that So

it's like didn't isn't golden eyes still up there

Can he just borrow that does he needed this other

Icarus satellite? But yeah, we've seen it so

many times before so it just you know When you

don't have a good bond villain and the plot is

weak. It's becomes even more evident. So that

was issue What do you have for lowlights for

this one? I think the biggest lowlight for this

movie is that it's over directed This is it just

this is coming out after like in the matrix and

like the huge influx of CGI is happening with

action films and they really Hammer home that

with this movie mostly in the second half like

the best example or the worst example is the

glacier Surfing scene which is Never thought

I would ever see a surfacing that was worse than

the one in escape from LA, but this tops it It's

just so bad. It looks so the CGI is so cartoony

I mean even for the time it wasn't that good

and this is just it looks so dated and bad and

it's just I don't understand the idea behind

it it The good thing about the world is not enough.

They kind of had bond They humanized him a little

bit, but making him an injured hero. And this,

he's a superhero. He's crazy. It's just, I don't

know. They want to, they seem almost bipolar.

At one end, they want to embrace their history.

And the other, they kind of want to shun it and

kind of make Bond edgy and of the new millennium.

You have a lot of... Slow motion speed ramping

a lot of camera adjustments like that are randomly

kind of happened out of nowhere and it's just

it's just unnecessary and that's me like The

thing that's made James Bond stay on the test

of time often is the practical effects. Yes,

there's been special effects at times, but mostly

due to budgetary reasons or just for safety.

But Bond has been known for crazy and awesome

stunts from the beginning. And this really didn't

have any. And I think going the CGI route is

the wrong way to go with Bond. And I think it's

hurt. It hurt the movie overall because it just

made it feel fake Like the the final climax when

you have the plane falling apart with Icarus

coming down. It's just it just too much It's

just over saturation Yeah, and the whole scene

with him in the supercar or whatever the hell

that thing is the land speed whatever the fuck

He really was hanging off the edge of the earth

the edge of the world there not, not saying Brosnan

was really, just the way that that scene is when

he first goes over the cliff. Yeah. And the way

that it looks, because you see the ice glacier

he's hanging off of, and then you see at the

very bottom, you see the ocean. To me, it looked

like, hey, the world does end at some point,

I guess. I guess Christopher Columbus was wrong.

It does have an edge. It does drop off. But you

can surf off it, so it's OK. Yeah, that was a

little weird. I almost think they just digitally

enhanced Brosnan's face onto a figure. I don't

think that was him doing the stunt. I don't think

there was anyone there doing the stunt. I think

if they had a video game at the time, it probably

was very similar to that moment. You probably

couldn't tell the difference. Like I said, for

Brosnan's last entry that this is actually my

least favorite of his films but for it being

his his last entry into the franchise i do like

it for the difference because again this is a

this is something so different that we've seen

with his bond where he got captured and he got

you know bearded and everything you know all

this stuff and everything else and i thought

that was really cool i thought the cue scene

was really cool um Other than that the overall

plot this movie sucks Yeah, I wish and I too

kind of wish they would almost went did more

with the whole escape thing like you mentioned

in The wall is not enough. He had a separate

shoulder, but that didn't really after Like the

beginning it didn't really go back to that at

all with this and when after you get captured

Do you really don't see that much change and

bond out to the first 20 30 minutes? He just

goes back to being normal bond So I think they

had an opportunity there that they just kind

of avoided just to get better action sequences

that which was unfortunate Yeah So we're gonna

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on Die Another Day? Um, it's sad to see Brosnan

go knowing this is his last movie and I wish

he went back. went out with a better film. I

like Brosnan as Bond. I think he's a great Bond.

I just wish what was behind it was better. I

loved GoldenEye. I even really enjoyed The Tomorrow

Never Dies. But after that, I think it goes steadily

downhill, and this really hits him in the bottom.

Unfortunately, it's not to the point where...

He's the reason the movie is suffering. It's

just everything around him is completely chaotic

and a mess. So Kind of I understand why they

went a different direction. I do think brazen

could have done more. I just wish she was given

better material Yeah If I were to rank the brazen

ones just like from one to four GoldenEye Honestly,

the world is not enough tomorrow never dies and

then die another day it just It's just so silly

and I didn't even realize at the time like when

this came out in 2002 I'm like, oh, okay. So

in 2004 2005 we're gonna get another new bras

no one and then that's and happen obviously and

then and then it was four years till the hardest

reboot we've ever had which We'll talk about

tomorrow and it makes no fucking sense to me.

We'll get to that tomorrow, but Dying of the

day I like it for its little homages and little

things and I like it for the cue scene and I

like it for the action scenes As I've said many

times in this episode the plot just sucked so

hard so We hope you enjoyed the Bond film review

here in M .Y .R.'s Shaken on Sterge series. I

wish you would join us in tomorrow when we're

talking about the hardest reboot yet and we see

that wookie bitch, Daniel Craig, in Casino Royale.

For now, I am TFG1Mike with... Move your bowl

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