Movie Week in Review
Men in Black Film Franchise Review

About this Episode
Hello, Nets! This is Jesse from Rock Sugar and
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And we're looking for one of you. Hey. What's
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the system. Leave. are the men in black. You
know what the difference is between you and me?
I make this look good. Series 4 de -atomizer.
That's what I'm talking about. Noisy cricket.
I feel like I'm gonna break this damn thing.
Oh, it gets better. Ted, we have a bug. Unlimited
technology from the whole universe and we cruise
around in a Ford POS. Fasten your seatbelt. See,
now we got to work on your people skills. Columbia
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knew it. This is an alien and you guys are from
some government agency trying to keep it under
wraps. No. Tommy Lee Jones. I'm gonna count to
three. He'll do it, Jeeves. One. I'm telling
you, that man does not look stable. Two. He's
always crazy. Why don't you get a massage or
take a creep? Three. Do you have any idea how
much that stings? Will Smith. What the hell are
you? Your world's gonna end. In a new film, we're
the director of the Addams Family and get shorty.
Men in Black. Protecting the Earth from the scum
of the universe. You know how to use these things?
No idea whatsoever. Every day, millions of people
go through the same routine while life passes
them by. But for the men in black, it's the same
old routine with a brand new style. I just walked
in to find you here with that sad look upon your
face. I should have changed that stupid lock.
I should have... Frank! Now Earth is in for a
world of trouble. What do we got? Big bad mojo.
And the only agent who can stop it... Bring him
in. Now. ...doesn't even know he's an agent.
You don't remember me, but we used to work together.
I never worked in a funeral home. There's something
I can do for you, Slick. Boom! Why do you think
you're so comfortable here? The Earth's very
existence may rest on what K knows. Get back!
Somebody said you were dead. You look good. Get
him over to denuralization. Let's go put it on.
What? The last suit you'll ever wear. Again.
Don't worry about a thing, folks. I used to live
here. Came by to pick up a few things. Well,
hey, man, what you doing? Always do the driving,
right? Wait, no. I don't remember that. So you
used to drive that old busted joint. I drive
the new hotness. Old and busted, new hotness.
That's naked hot. This Fourth of July weekend,
they're back in business. You're getting big.
What would you mean? Back in action. Hello and
welcome to the fift - Wait, what? That's not
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Hello. We're not up to episode 59, are we? Uh,
I'm where? Yeah. no we're not even near that
holy shit oh we're on 45 I was gonna say that's
what I thought oh damn hello and welcome to the
45th episode of the M -Wire today we're going
to be discuss what the hell okay we're gonna
be discussing the men in black film franchise
I am TFG1 Mike and I'm losing my mind and Steve
Megatron is here hello hello how are you My brain
is very well intact. Yes unlike mine Yeah, my
brain's not intact at all Yes, yes, so what's
been going on with you sir Besides podcasting
adding the new post blogs yours and mine to the
website Not really all that much else other than
you know just a bunch of like new movie news
in recent late days yeah yeah I uh it's funny
it took me what did it take me for I don't know
it took me about a week to write my Masters of
the Universe 2002 cartoon blog post I Was originally
gonna list and photo compare Every single major
character and I deleted a good lot of them off
the off the list. It's actually on the blog post.
It's like oh God, I don't because I thought I
had photos already of the 80 series one versions
and as I was watching the 2002 version I eventually
went, you know, I just took pics as I was going
along So I go back to do the comparisons, and
I don't have an image of 80s Merman, but I have
an image of 02 Merman. I don't have an image
of 80s Beastman, but I have an image of 02 Beastman.
I'm like, oh fuck. So I spent like, I don't know,
six hours one afternoon, back and forth between
DVDs, back and forth, back and forth, back and
forth, and it's like, oh god. Okay, that character's
getting cut, that character's getting cut, that
character's getting cut. But for the majority
of people, people should have gotten the jest
of the photo compares that I was doing. Yes.
Yes, that series, the O2 series is actually a
nice, nice updating. Unlike that crappy 90 cartoon
they tried to do. Science fiction my ass. Hehehehe.
Piece of shit. I still like that. I don't care
what you think. That thing is not Skeletor, it's
some weird looking thing. That's not what Skeletor
fucking looks like. Yeah, well to me that was
Skeletor. Well, you grew up in the wrong cartoon.
Well, I knew both of them, so... To hell with
you, to hell, to hell. So getting into today's
topic of the Men in Black films. Men in Black
is a 1997 science fiction action comedy film
directed by Barry Sonnenfeld. starring Tommy
Lee Jones, Will Smith, and Vincent D 'Onofrio
was in the first one? Oh yeah, he played the
bug, that's right. The film was based on the
Men in Black comic book series by Lowell Cunningham,
originally published by Arcel Comics. The film
featured the creature effects and makeup of Rick
Baker. The film was released on July 2, 1997
by Columbia Pictures and grossed over $587 million
worldwide against a $90 million budget. It's
currently the 49th highest -grossing film of
all time and is followed by a 2002 sequel Men
in Black 2 and an animated series entitled Men
in Black The Series. When was the first time
you saw this? Did you see it in theaters? No.
I actually cut it on cable. What, a week ago?
No. No, I mean the first... I've seen this a
long time ago. Like, around the time it came
out, but probably the first time it was on cable
TV. Yeah. Yeah, I think I saw this in theaters,
but I don't really remember. I don't know, I
saw it somehow. It might have been on VHS or
something. I don't know, hell. 97 VHS's were
still all the rage, so... They ruled you. Anyways,
as far as the setting, the MIB, the top secret
agency that polices, monitors, and directs alien
activity on Earth, has established the Earth
as an apolitical neutral zone for alien refugees,
as Agent K explains, like Casablanca, with no
Nazis. Oh god. But it wouldn't be as good without
Nazis. VMIB answer to no government. Their funding
comes from the patents they own on technology
compass from aliens such as Velcro, microwave
ovens, and liposuction. Oh wow, yikes. And now
you know where the stretchy face is and weird.
Yeah. When a new agent joins the MIB, every public
record of his or her existence is deleted and
all identifying marks, including fingerprints,
are physically removed from his or her body.
Any memory of MIB activity upon mustering out
of the MIB is erased and new identity is created
for the departing agent into whose strange world
as ushered initially skeptical Detective Sergeant
James Edwards, played by Will Smith, a NYPD officer,
as he becomes Agent J. One of the newest MIB
personnel, Tommy Lee Jones plays Kay, a senior
MIB agent who recruits and guides Jay as he learns
the ropes. MIB agents wear black suits and neckties
with white shirts and appear at UFO landing sites
similar to paranormal reports of real -world
men in black. Since the MIB are a secret organization,
no evidence of their existence can be left. Instead
of intimidating or threatening witnesses, the
MIB use devices known as neuralizers to white
witnesses' memories of what they have seen and
replace the memories with more mundane explanations
such as swamp gas or weather balloons. All agents
carry a pair of black sunglasses which they put
on before activating a neuralizer to shield themselves
from the effects. Neuralizers are also used on
agents who leave the organization for any reason
or for agents that do not have the mental emotional
capacity to continue with the organization. K
and J drive around in a seemingly inconspicuous
black car, which J initially identifies as a
Ford POS piece of shit. A 1987 LTD Crown Victoria
what? I was laughing. Yeah, that was funny. which
with the press of the red button on the gear
stick transforms into a high -speed rocket propelled
car. This movie was... I don't know. It was good.
It was alright, I guess. It was of the time when
Will Smith was doing his breakout movie career
thing. And singing at the same time. Yeah. Every
movie he was in he had to have a singing role.
Yeah, the theme song yeah, I don't know I kind
of like the theme song as much as I denounce
and hate rap You know I would have to say his
songs for like the movies including like this
and you know Wow Wow West I'd have to say those
would probably be my favorite if I had to say
I liked rap my favorite rap that yeah, especially
coming from him Yeah, yeah Yes The main plot
of the movie revolves around a quote -unquote
bug, word for member of an alien species, similar
in many ways to a very large cockroach, searching
for a miniature galaxy, which is also a vast
energy source. Upon landing on Earth, the bug
kills a farmer named Edgar, played by Vincent
D 'Onofrio, and uses his skin as a disguise to
aid in the hunt. A member of an alien royal family
masquerading as a diamond merchant has concealed
the galaxy on his cat's collar. When he is killed
by the bug, his government prepares to destroy
the Earth rather than let the galaxy fall to
the bug's hands. During their mission, Jay and
Kay investigate a morgue where they meet Dr.
Laurel Weaver, played by Linda Fiorentino, a
cynical deputy medical examiner. Eventually,
the agents kill the bug with Laurel's help and
recover the galaxy. K then has J erase his memory
so he can retire, and Laurel joins the MIB and
becomes Agent L, J's new partner. In the final
scene of the film, the camera pulls back to the
sky through space, past ourselves through millions
of stars, ultimately revealing that our galaxy
is contained within a circular container resembling
a marble. The container is then picked up by
an alien hand, which throws it, hitting another
marble. Which also contains a galaxy and what
resembles the game of marbles. Both marbles are
then picked up by the hand and placed into a
bag full of galaxy containing marbles. I never
liked the ending of this. The only part of the
ending that I liked was the whole Dennis Rodman
joke. Yeah. The whole marble bit, that was just
stupid. That was too much. Yeah, that was just
dumb. I don't know, what did you think of the
first film overall? The first film yeah, I I
liked it none of it was too over -the -top. It
was like a comedic X -Files of sorts Although
it had its advantages, especially with Their
awesome rocket -boosting car. I'd have to say
that to me would rank number two with the DeLorean
being number one Yeah, and then as far as like
the Neuralizers that that was pretty cool touch
And I liked Will Smith's cricket. Yeah, the cricket
was awesome. Because he gets, you know, Agent
K gets this huge blaster, and then he hands Jay
the cricket. The noisy cricket, yep. The noisy
cricket, which is, you know, as big as his, you
know, palm of his hand. And he starts waving
it around, and K's like... Hey, don't put that
at me, you know, and he's like what it's just
this and then he just like randomly fighters
a shot and Knacks him on his ass Yeah, I didn't
say that would be the most awesome weapon. Yeah,
you know like oh, that's nothing. Oh, yeah, you
want to see Mm -hmm. Yeah that first movie I'd
have to say is pretty damn good a lot of fun
moments in it a lot of Weird randomness. Yeah.
Um, I especially like Tony Shalhoub in this He
plays Jack Jeebs. The dog? No, that's Frank the
Pug. Yeah, he was cool too. Jack Jeebs was an
alien posing as a pun shop owner who deals in
illegal weapons. He can regrow his head if it
is damaged or blown off. That's right. That was
my second guess. I thought that was really funny.
Yeah, I mean the cast for the most part, you
know... Very well done for the film. It's funny,
Smith was cast because Barry Sonnefeld's wife
was a Fresh Prince of Bel -Air fan. Wow. Nice.
Well, that's nice casting. Yeah. And it worked
out. Yup. Besides Will Smith, they had two other
prospects. Chris O'Donnell, who turned down the
film because he found a role of a new recruit
too similar to Dick Grayson, whom he had played
in Batman Forever and Batman and Robin, and David
Schwimmer, also turned down the part. Oh my god,
Ross as Agent J? Oh god. Or Robin. I could deal
with Robin before Ross. Ross is too Weasley.
Yeah, it's not even - Real Smith brought that
nice dynamic. Because he's a complete opposite
of, you know - Probably. Yeah, Tommy Lee Jones.
Yeah. And plus the other thing is, if Chris O'Donnell
did it, if this was... I don't know if this was...
Was this released before or after Batman and
Robin? I don't know. Because they were both released
in 97. If Chris O'Donnell had done it, it wouldn't
be like Robin slash Dick Grayson versus Two -Face.
Because Tommy Lee Jones played Two -Face in Batman
Forever. Yeah. As we said before, there are soundtracks.
Two different soundtracks were released in the
USA score soundtrack and an album featuring various
songs in the UK. Only the album was released,
but the score is rarely available for import.
Danny Elfman composed the score for the film,
making use of his usual combination of orchestra
and electronics. The score also makes permanent
use of jazz for the MIB theme, which consists
of an ostinato usually played by lower instruments.
The official Men in Black game is the third -person
shooter developed by Gremlin Interactive. Wow.
The Grunts have their own video game developing
company? Yikes. So when they get water on them,
do they multiply? Don't feed them after midnight.
They turn into creatures. Let's see, as far as
the reception, Men in Black won the Academy Award
for Best Makeup and was also nominated for Best
Original Score, Best Art Direction. It was also
nominated for a Golden Globe of Best Motion Picture,
Musical or Comedy. The film received an overwhelmingly
positive response from critics, having 91 % rating
on the Rotten Tomatoes Film Critic website. Following
the film's release, Ray -Ban stated that sales
of their Predator 2 sunglasses, worn by the organization
to deflect neuralizers, tripled to five million.
Wow. And that's five million dollars, by the
way. Yikes. No, I thought it was five million
pennies. Well, you know, five million units are,
you know, that's... I was thinking more of...
Yeah, whatever. Um You know the first film was
was was good. I could have done without the bug
plot, but Yeah, the bug thing kind of creeped
me out. Yeah, I think the only time I was actually
happy about it is when he was stomping on him
at the end It's like oh is that a family member
here? Sorry crunch Yeah This is a 2002 sci -fi
action comedy starring Tommy Lee Jones and Will
Smith. The film also stars Lara Flynn Boyle,
Johnny Knoxville, Rosario Dawson, and Rick Torn.
The film is a sequel to the 97 film Men in Black,
both of which are based on the Malibu comic series
The Men in Black by Lowell Cunningham. This one
was a little bit better. I think it was. I know
that a lot of people didn't really like it that
much, but... Basically, five years after the
events of the earlier film, Agent K, played by
Tommy Lee Jones, has assumed a civilian life
in Small Town's postmaster while Agent J continues
to work for the Men in Black. The self -funded
New York City -based agency that secretly monitors
and regulates extraterrestrials' activity on
Earth. Jay is largely without a partner, his
former partner, Agent L, having returned to her
former life as a deputy medical examiner, and
her successors having been expelled from the
agency by Jay himself due to their unsuitability.
While investigating a seemingly routine crime,
Jay uncovers a diabolical plot by Serlina, a
shape -shifting chylothian, Queen, who disguises
herself as a model, played by Lara Flynn Boyle,
but resembles a... Lernan Hydra? I don't know,
in her own form. To stop her, Jane must convince
Kay, who has no memory of his time spent with
the Agency, but is only a person alive who knows
what is needed to defeat Selina, to reunite with
the MIB before Earth is destroyed. Uh, huh. Yeah,
this second film, quite honestly, it wasn't that
great. I like some of the comedy bits, but the
overall plot kind of sucks. The overall plot
sucks. I like the fact that K was still technically
working around, because he's still too valuable.
He was still working around all of the aliens.
And the fact that Johnny Knoxville, who's quite
hilarious in this. Too head, yeah. That's almost
a waspinator moment That's funny Basically Yeah,
it's just I don't know I just right before we
started recording this I just finished watching
it and It was okay. I think the gadgets are probably
the best part about it Yeah, the worms are kind
of funny Frank the pug was fucking annoying.
I wanted to choke that goddamn dog And I like
dogs So Jesus Christ Yeah, that one yeah, I could
have done without him in this film Yeah, he was
not something that was needed the only three
technically needed were JK and chief said mm
-hmm everybody else is kind of yeah, whatever
Yeah Well Zed was all right. I mean you know
anything ripped or does is kind of cool, but
yes But yeah, you know the Johnny Knoxville stuff
was was funny as hell I don't think Will Smith's
comedy bits were or as good as they were in the
first film. He's pretty much got an eagle the
size of a hot air balloon, pretty much. Yeah.
And I really, really didn't like it that much.
Let's see, here's the other one. Patrick Warburton
as Agent T, that was kind of funny. He always
plays kind of a weird -ish... character. Yes,
he does. He's got that kind of like overbearing,
overacting style. Yeah, well that's what he's
used to playing I guess. I like how they base
Agent K's or his alternate life as Kevin Brown.
in a very extremely small town Massachusetts
post office. I thought that was very funny considering
none of the post offices in Massachusetts look
like that at all as far as the little lobby area
there. I mean, hell, it looked like a little
fucking house. Basically, they had him working
at a fake post office to make him think he's
working at a real post office. Yeah. to keep
him out of trouble. Okay, then. Yeah, again,
the addition of Lara Flynn Boyle and Rosaria
Dawson were good characters, I guess, but just
the overall plot just kind of sucked. K has some
sort of alien bestiality affair with some alien
that's dead and has a daughter. Great. And if
the daughter doesn't leave, the whole earth is
gonna blow up. Oh, lovely. Yeah, that... Yeah,
that's almost as bad as a chick turning into
a robot. Yeah, there will be no... Actually,
you know, it's funny. There was no tail, but
there was a horrible, horrible tongue -lashing
in this film. Take that. Oh, jeez. That's...
yeah, that's really funny. Yeah, I just hope
that with the coming of the third film, unfortunately
in 3D, they don't repeat too. Well, it's funny
you mention that Men in Black 3D will be the
third installment in the film's franchise It
will be released in 3D by Sony Pictures and directed
by Barry Sonnenfeld who directed the first two
installments The third was originally based on
a script written by Tropic Thunder and Madagascar
escape to Africa writer Etton Cohen Sony confirmed
that David Kep would serve as an additional screenwriter
joining Cohen Kep is currently rewriting a new
draft of the script which takes place primarily
in the year 1969. It was initially announced
that Tommy Lee Jones and Will Smith would reprise
their roles as Agents K and J respectively, both
had previously expressed interest in reprising
their roles back in 2008. While Smith has officially
signed on to return as Agent J, Jones is in advanced
negotiations to return as Agent K. Josh Brolin
is also in talks to play the younger, 1969 version
of Kay. Others rumored to have parts in the film
include Sacha Baron Cohen and Jermaine Clement.
It was later confirmed that Clement had landed
the role of Boris, formerly named Yaz. Production
of the sequel is tentatively set to begin during
the 2010 fall season, and will welcome back producers
Walter F. Parks and Laurie MacDonald. Steven
Spielberg is also set to return as executive
producer. Men in Black 3D will hit theaters May
25th, 2012. Okay, so they're doing the Austin
Powers thing? D 'oh! Yeah, I have no idea what
that reference is. Austin Powers Was in the 60s
he went into the future and then he had to go
back to the 60s So What I mean is they're setting
the third film in 1969 and they're gonna have
a younger version of K What the hell else are
they gonna do as I mean, okay sure We get some
little plot point of that it's going to primarily
base in the year 1969. Well, what the hell are
they going to do in 1969? I didn't even know
the MIB could time travel. Do they have DeLorean's
now? Apparently. That's what the car's alternate
feature works. We not only can go fast, we can
travel time. Oh, good lord. And then you're going
to hear the song back in time in the background
when they go. You know what I may just put back
in time in this episode. Oh Damn that would be
such a travesty to back to the future though.
Yeah, unfortunately Oh shit, that's funny. Um,
you know, honestly Mean I I remember the first
film I don't actually have it so I didn't watch
it before we started recording this but I Honestly
don't think either film stands the test of time
at all. No, they look dated It's kind of almost
I mean It's almost painful for me to watch them
just because Time hasn't been nice to them. No
No, I think this is the first like I don't know
a couple of years ago at Christmas time I guess
Best Buy was running one of their sales like
I don't know DVDs for $7 .50 or I don't know
some sort of sale and I listed off a bunch of
ones that I wanted and my mom pretty much got
me all the ones that I wanted Men in Black 2
was one of them and it's the two disc Special
widescreen edition And it does have a bunch of
special features none of which I've watched except
for the trailers And the only reason why I watch
the trailers is to get the the audio for for
this episode But this is the first time I've
watched it in three years since I've owned the
damn thing Yeah, I actually don't own any of
them I remember enough of the first one and the
second one It's quite painful for me to watch
like I said So I yeah, I actually have had no
access to the second one so but From what I remember
when I saw the first time around it didn't keep
my interest very well It's like I said when I
first saw it when it first came out back in 2002
it was cool It was nice to see the characters,
you know Back, you know doing their thing Um,
but just the overall plots, they just suck. In
both films, they suck. You know, you can have
great actors, but at the same time, you can also
have really sucky plots. Now, I've never read
any of the Men in Black comics, and I don't plan
on to now, so I don't know if these stories were
adapted from the comics, I'm not sure. Um, but,
ugh, God. Yeah. I don't know. Quite honestly,
I hope that with them doing this third film,
they just end it here. Even if they somehow alter
history to where the aliens never actually take
an interest in Earth and MIB never forms, even
that would be fine. That would be an interesting
plot point. And somebody completely screws up
the past, you know, Jay's like, you know Just
walks up and says fuck this and then shoot some
of the cricket and then you know Where's the
past master when you really need him? And then
they show in the future of what the current time
is and it's just all cockroaches the end Wow,
so you're basically combining men in black with
with time travel so men in black back to the
future and starship troopers yikes yes us end
game oh lord that's funny alright so on that
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dressin' black, remember that Just in case we
ever face to face and make contact The title
held by me, M .I .B Means what you think you
saw and you did not see So don't blink B, what
was there is now Goin' black C with the black
Ray -Bans on Walk in shadow, move in silence
Scar to get sex structure matched for your violence
But yo, we ain't on no government list We straight,
don't exist, no names and no fingerprints Saw
somethin' strange, watch your back Cause you
never quite know where the M .I .Bs is at, uh,
eh Keep it sort of dark as the night on the horizon
Bright light, inter -site type Camera zoom on
the impending doom But then like boom, black
suits fill the room up Quick to quick, let's
talk with the witnesses Hypnotizer, neuralyzer
Vivid memories, turn to fantasies Ain't no one
my B's, can I please Do what we say, that's the
way we kick it Yeah, man, let's have a noisy
cricket get wicked on ya With your first, last,
and only line of defense Against the worst scum
of the universe So don't fear us, cheer us If
you ever get nearest, don't jeer us We're fearless
in my feet, squeezing up all the flags That stands
for Men In Black Let me see you just bounce with
me, just bounce with me, just bounce with me,
come on Let me see you just slide with me, just
slide with me, just slide with me, come on Let
me see you take a walk with me, just walk with
me, take a walk with me, come on And make your
neck work Now freeze Let me tell you this in
closing I know we might seem imposing But trust
me, if we ever show in your section Believe me,
it's for your own protection Cause we see things
that you need not see And we be places that you
need not be So go with your life, forget the
Roswell craps Show love to the black suit Cause
that's the men in, that's the men in Here come
the men and women They won't let you remember
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