Primal Fear and Ferris Bueller’s Day Off Soundtracks

This is Matt Rebois from La La Land Records,

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I'm of course TFG1 Mike and in here in episode

5 Joining me is Doug Abel from talking about

my generation. Hello. Hello, sir And tonight,

so as I've said in the last four episodes, Lawland

Records over the last three, four, five years

has sent me various CDs to write reviews for

and I decided to turn it into an audio podcast.

And as you heard in the very beginning, we're

going to be talking about two very different

films that actually have two anniversaries this

year. In 2016, this episode of the Lawland Lounge

is called The Primal Fear of Ferris Bueller.

Now, I know people might be listening to this

and be like, TF2 and Mike, you've lost your goddamn

mind. But Primal Fear, starring Richard Gere,

Laura Linney, and Terry O 'Quinn, and Edward

Norton, and a bunch of other people, came out

20 years ago this year. Ferris Bueller came out

30 years ago this year. Now, if you head on over

to MWIRE episode 123, we already covered Ferris

in movie form, talking about the movie, but...

here tonight we're going to be talking about

the soundtrack for us but we got to start by

going twenty years ago to primal fear i have

not seen this movie in god knows how long uh...

and as i say in every episode i have to actually

watched the thing to hear the music in context

yeah and this was edward norton's film debut

scary when you think about all the stuff that

he's done you know i mean from the the whole

can diner in uh... God, all sorts of stuff. I

mean, most people will know him, you know, famously

from, you know, that one movie you're not supposed

to talk about. You know, you just... Yeah, you

know. You just don't talk about Fight Club. That's

the rule. So most people will remember him from

that, for the most part. See, I remembered him

from American History X when he was a neo -Nazi,

which, God, that was good. Yeah And I remember

him being in this and I remember gear being in

this and I'm like Richard Geer and Edward Norton

that just doesn't I mean Richard year, you know

pretty woman officer and a gentleman I'm just

taking this off top of my head folks first night

You know, yeah God I want to say my best friend's

wedding when I know that's not right. No, it

was another runaway bride. That's the one. Yep

Yeah But my best friend's wedding was her was

his his his better half his his hooker half Yeah

See a primal fear done by James Newton Howard

Which I actually had to look him up not because

I didn't know what What what he has done because

I have no the last few years. He's been collaborating

with Hans Zimmer on the various DC superhero

film things with Man of Steel and and the the

Batman Nolan films and that kind of thing so

I've known what he's been doing and what he's

done in the past but the reason why I had to

look James Newton Howard up is because I thought

he was dead Oh, man. That's not something a composer

wants to hear. No, it's not. Well, I got him

confused with James Horner. James Horner did

pass away recently. So that's why I had to look

the guy up and I'm like, wait, is he still with

us? Because I could not remember. And I just

got the two confused. And may Mr. Horner rest

in peace, obviously. But yeah, Primal Fear, the

read -up on the Lawland website, lawlandrecords

.com, where soundtracks live. Lawland Records

and Paramount Pictures present the remastered

and expanded reissue of renowned composer James

Newton Howard, who was also known as Fugitive,

Grand Canyon, Wyatt, Earp, and all that stuff.

The original western picture score to the 1996

dramatic thriller feature film Primal Fear starring

Richard Gere, Edward Norton, and Laura Linney,

directed by Gregory Hoblitt. What an unfortunate

last name to have. Understated and elegant yet

dramatically complex and emotionally powerful,

James Newton Howard's notable score expertly

enriches and enhances this acclaimed and powerful

legal thriller. Remastered and expanded by more

than 30 minutes over its initial soundtrack release,

this special limited edition of 1 ,000 units

features previously unreleased cues, alternates,

demos and more and is produced by dan goldwasser

and mastered by doge schwarz made a short speed

that's right i'm sure he gets that joke all the

time the exclusive and in -depth liner notes

written by daniel schwieger and the crisp art

direction is done by dan goldwasser as well uh...

so this has a total of forty tracks the first

twenty two tracks are basically the score from

the film Tracks 23 to 32 are the special bonus

cues. They're basically alternate or unused versions

of of the film elements Then there are from 33

to 36 there are album mixes The murder scene

album mix and various things and then 37 to 40

are the songs and demo tracks as well I going

back and watching this movie I completely forgot

what to expect out of it considering since this

movie's release we've had so many things so many

TV shows and movies dealing with either multiple

personality disorder or dissociative identity

disorder seeing as how it's not called Multiple

personalities anymore And this was kind of the

linchpin I think in the 90s of saying hey, this

is a thing this actually does exist this this

multiple personality thing and I Remember seeing

this back then, but I didn't remember seeing

a lot like I saw Bits and pieces of it, but I

never saw that really the whole thing until obviously

now and Wow, this movie was good Oh, yeah, I

mean, you know this movie the thing about it

had had me thinking Is he faking is it real?

Is it you know, did he do it? Did he not do it,

you know? And then you find out that Roy, you

know Roy come was out and admits that he killed

her and you know He tried to kill her and all

that it's it's just like okay And oh my god,

I I don't want to spoil it for anybody who hasn't

seen it So I don't want to give away the very

end but it's like You know, hey, I hope her neck

is okay. Yeah Yeah, and this this ties into The

whole Catholic Church and altar boys and everything

else and What I forgot about movies of 80s and

90s Calot Lake rated R films, because I believe

I'm not looking at the Wikipedia. I should be

looking at the Wikipedia, but I'm not, folks.

You should be proud that I'm not. I believe this

film was rated R. It would almost have to be

for the videotape scene. I forgot that movies

back, because we're so used to nowadays the PG

-13. aspect of pretty much every single film

that's ever been released. The only time I ever

see a film that's rated R on anything, not just

watching the movie, but just seeing a rated R

film is if it's a horror movie. Every other movie

now is PG -13 at this point. Yeah, unless you

see boobs or something like that and nudity,

it's like, okay. But see, that's what the late

80s and early 90s were all about. you know it

was all about that are rated you look at all

you know we look at robo cop you look at the

legal weapons at least the first two yeah uh...

you know you look at uh... like stuff like body

of evidence or basic instinct or whatever i'd

just for god's i'd forgotten how i was a blatant

but how open they were with certain parts of

nudity and sexuality and all that stuff and it

was just kind of Strange seeing that like I have

not up until about I think five years ago I had

not seen the original RoboCop in a long time

watching that movie again and Realizing how violent

that movie is. I'm like oh my god but primal

fear Really enjoyed the film. I think all the

actors did a wonderful job. It's kind of weird

seeing Terry O 'Quinn with actual hair and a

mustache uh... well you saw that the rocketeer

so you know we play our news well yeah but i'm

saying compared to now most most the time like

on lost and things like that that he's done recently

he's either balled with with a gray mustache

or no mustache at all so yeah so that was a little

strange but uh... i love the movie and james

newt howard score for this it is dark and epic

And it's just one of those scores that will stick

with you. I know last time we did one of these

when we talked about Johnny Quest, it wasn't

something that either one of us were going to

go back to on a regular basis to listen to. I

could listen to this almost once every three

or four months. This score is just, it brings

you in, and it basically turns your emotions

upside down. Yeah. I mean, here's the thing with

this is that I When I was listening to it, when

I was listening to the score, I kind of thought,

you know, I could almost listen to this on a

car trip. But then I started thinking, do I really

want to listen to it on a car trip? Because,

you know, I could be driving a long distance

and all of a sudden stopping and going, somebody's

going to kill me in the bathroom or something,

you know? I don't know that I necessarily want

to be listening to it. It's that dark and that

kind of twisted sound. And you kind of get these

feelings of it. It is. It definitely brings emotion

out. That's no no ifs, ands or buts about it.

This movie reminded me. Of another film that

I believe Newton Howard scored as well. Obviously,

this is it had Primal Fear has some religious

aspects to it, but it's not soaked in religion.

Part of the plot is, you know. big business losing

money on on land the church bought and things

like that so it was more of a financial plot

when it came to why uh... part of it when it

came to why the archbishop was killed but it's

one of those things where as soon as as soon

as i'm watching this movie and i'm looking at

ed norton in this role and i'm like oh my god

he's the devil's advocate It's all I did. The

first thing I thought of when watching this movie

again for the first time in a long time was Keanu

Reeves and Al Pacino in The Devil's Advocate,

and I believe it was 1999 and three years after

this. You know, because this movie has that kind

of grand scale sound to it. It has that, oh my

god, do not listen to this in the dark kind of.

There's a lot of things that I cannot sit here

and watch in the dark. Unsolved mysteries has

always been something even You know even now

that I cannot watch in the dark because Robert

stack as awesome as he was She the hell out with

that voice that he is his voice that he uses

You know an unsolved mysteries, and this is another

one is one of those movies You should do if you're

not into scary and this movie is not scary by

any means It's more intense than anything else

because you just don't know Yeah Nowadays everybody

under the sun... feels like they can predict

what the hell is gonna happen in a movie and

I that is one thing ever since I was little I

have always hated I want to be able to find out

what the hell is gonna happen as it happens I

don't want you know my mom used to do this all

the time when she was alive she would say oh

that that's the guy that did it or oh that you

know and it turns out you know she she being

right and I'm like no don't say that don't just

sit here watch the movie and enjoy it don't You

know well, that's that's why so many of us like

you know things like wild things or It's last

ten minutes of the movie last you know last 15

minutes of the movie where you get the twists

Yeah that and you know six cents I know a lot

of people hate on that movie and hate on the

director and everything But you know it's the

twists are what you look for and that's you don't

expect what you get Right and I think that primal

fear even had that for this time frame oh yeah

and this was the age you know in 1996 was we

were on the cusp of the age of the lawyer legal

thriller because in the nineties all you know

between the firm and the pelican brief all the

john grisham novels were getting getting adapted

into movies and you know you had so many lawyer

movies legal thriller movies and this is just

another one of those really really good ones

if i had to pick a couple of favorite tracks

off of here The murder scene track one. I like

that one. I thought that was really cool Track

five don't smile where he tells where he tells

him not to smile Let's see here the courtroom

montage is fun that that was interesting and

how James Newton Howard took in All composers

do this with characters because you have to create

a character theme for characters. You can't just

have like, you know, normal, you know, if you

look at superhero shows, each hero has his own,

you know, entrance theme, that kind of thing.

And the track here where Roy appears, it's track

nine, the film version of it, just that dark

tone music and that quick switch. Cause I was

not expecting the quick switch. No. When he's

talking to the psychologist. Cause later in the

movie you see that Gear, Vail, Gear's character's

name is Vail, you see Vail looking at that video

again and he sees the switch and it's like wow,

I was not expecting that. What other bits do

you want to bring up about the score that you

noticed or you enjoyed? Oh, well... I like I

did listen to a lot of the alternate stuff because

I always like seeing what I missed Again, just

some of the alternates they didn't quite work

as well as the film versions like obviously the

murder scene and love hurts and You know, those

were some great. Those are some great sounds

or great clips I should say from the soundtrack

here that didn't actually get on and I liked

them, but they just Weren't quite right for it.

The others were much better, you know, that's

the best way I can say it. Yeah Alright folks

I'm out of a zero to five scale. I've got to

give this a four. I Really enjoyed this And again,

as I said, this is gonna be one of those lawland

records releases that I have in my iTunes library

that I can go to when I want, you know between

this and was earlier that year earlier this year

uh... my buddy movable dan and i we did uh...

we did a movie review for shashank redemption

his long records this year released that score

as well and i remember when i get that score

in the mail and i we've already talked about

it on my own i guess it's going to mail it was

raining that day and just the fact of how dark

in and ominous and dreary the Score for for Shawshank

is it's like wow this this really fits the weather

right now folks, but Primal fear. Yeah, what

are you gonna? Give it zero to five I'll probably

give it a four as well. I it's it's really really

good It's better than I expected it to be for

soundtrack Again, the only thing that's stopping

is like wouldn't be able to listen to it on the

car trip because I'd be too creeped out Yeah,

you wouldn't be able to listen to it on a car

trip because when you're actually driving, you

have to pay attention to everything and this

music, as you said, would just scare the bejesus

out of you and you'd be careening all over the

road. I'd be looking for the killer to come over

the backseat to get me. Yeah. Your wife loves

you too much to have that happen. Yeah. Oh crap.

Alright folks, we're going to take a quick break

here on the La La Land Lounge. We'll be back

after this and we're going to talk somebody's

day off because after 30 years somebody actually

got a day off for a soundtrack. Alright folks,

we are back, and we're here to talk about Bueller.

Ferris Bueller. That's right, Ferris Bueller's

Day Off. Lawland Records and Paramount Pictures

commemorate the 30th anniversary of Ferris Bueller's

Day Off with the world premiere of the official

soundtrack album. Oh yeah, requested by fans

for more than three decades, the official original

motion picture soundtrack. to the classic John

Hughes film starring Matthew Broderick, Alan

Rook, and Mia Sarah has finally arrived in a

special limited edition collector's CD featuring

songs from the film and the original score by

acclaimed composer Ira Newborn, who also did

the Naked and Gun trilogy, Uncle Buck. Plains

Trains and Automobiles. Long sought after and

rare song tracks like Beat City by The Flowerpot

Men, mixed and mastered for this release by original

artists Ben Watkins and Adam Peters, and I'm

afraid by Blue Room, vocal and instrumental versions,

make their CD world premieres here. While Sieg

-Sieg Sputnik's ultraviolence mix of Love Missile

F -111 makes its North American CD debut, standout

tracks such as Yellow's Oh Yeah!, The Dream Academy's

ballad Edge of Forever and their museum scene

instrumental Please Please Please Let Me Get

What I Want, Wayne Newman's Parade Showstopper

Donka Shane, and more are showcased here, as

well as the world premiere of Composer Arnoub.

Damn it! newborns. Original score. Bonus tracks

include Ultimate Score and Source Cues, produced

for Lawline Records by Dan Goldwasser and Neil

S. Bolk, mastered in stereo from original vault

elements by Stephen Marsh. This special release

of 5 ,000 units features revealing in -dev liner

interview comments from the film's original music

supervisor, Tarquin Gotch, the film's editor,

Paul Hirsch, and John Hughes' son, James Hughes.

Okay, now you said you're gonna you said offer

that you're gonna rip this one a little bit,

but the reason I'm sure that you're gonna do

this is certain things are missing and it says

here Due to licensing restrictions a few of the

film songs could not be included on the CD, but

they are available elsewhere The celebratory

release is a dynamite listen and is a booklet

fascinating revelatory read an absolute must

for fans So get yours now because even Abe Frohman

is going to want one of these uh... you can listen

to the uh... now playing for a spieler soundtrack

podcast featuring interviews with album producers

dan goldwasser and neil spoke and the band blue

room also perform i'm afraid live so i will actually

be having uh... dan and uh... and neil on here

at some point i had neil on here couple years

ago on uh... on the cast radio for an interview

all about the uh... with eleven score so it's

gonna be interesting uh... Talking to them about

Ferris, but yeah, so That's that was your main

gripe about this right was that there are certain

things missing. Yes. Yes, damn it They left off

I have to curse the English beat because they

left off March of the swivel heads and I Get

it. I get it. You know, they they can't have

it on there because of licensing but come on

That's the whole chase when when he's running

home Mm -hmm. Everybody knows that song, you

know, it's like oh my god. We know that song

We have to listen to it. It's the slow -motion

jump off the trampoline Yep, it is And I don't

necessarily blame the English beat I don't think

it's them the whole thing with the licensing

deal and everything else It's whoever owns the

rights to produce to publish the music. So yeah,

if the English beat themselves don't actually

own the song because you know most the time when

when recordings happen for anything it's usually

the the the the publisher whether it's you know

something like a risk of records or rca records

or hollywood records or one of others whoever

whoever you know had pays them to do the music

and that's technically who owns the rights to

to to distributed so The fact that they couldn't

get licensing for that song specifically does

very much suck, but as I said in reading what

was on the websites, a lot of that stuff is readily

available. You can find that elsewhere. Oh yeah.

Yeah, I know. But Ferris Bueller's Day Off, this

single disc release here, absolutely love this.

I had to, and I don't mean to say this to be

negative, but I actually had to watch the movie

again. To figure out where some of these songs

were in the film, because the Love Missile F

-111, I did not remember that. Yeah, I didn't

either. I have to admit, I didn't watch the film

for this one. Because I've seen it umpteen million

times and I know the film pretty much inside

now, but I'm like listening to some of these

songs I'm going this is great stuff. This is

definitely you know 80s locked right in in the

middle of you know middle of everything John

Hughes films type stuff But I'm going I don't

remember half of these songs The ones I remember

oh, yeah, I do remember beat city. I do remember

Obviously Donka Shane is the parade scene. Yeah

Donka Shane and and twist and shout which yeah,

but the twist and shout version on like I wish

they had a recording of of What when Ferris was

actually doing it? I know they probably couldn't

do that or whatever because the Beatles or something.

Yeah But they get the marching band version on

here For me what I've wanted out of this outside

of as we've already talked about the English

beat Outside of actually getting a full -on version

of of yellow Of oh, yeah, I wanted the ira newborn

score because that to me also made this movie

is those moments like um What's the uh, let's

say here cameron in bed ferris goes hawaii goes

hawaiian and that's that's essentially the whole

beginning scene When Cameron's in bed sick and

Ferris keeps calling him and they keep going

back and forth back and forth and They have the

thing at the end, you know, let my Cameron go,

you know, and I just I always wanted that So

that was one of the things that really really

impressed me with with getting the music by Ira

Newhorn here Let's see ruining on patrol that

was a good one The unused save it Ferris that

was always cool. Yep You know Rooney sneaking

around and then hey Star Wars yay. Yeah Let's

see the he's gonna marry me thing Yeah There's

a couple of alternate score cues here Ferris

online 2 is an alternate theme from Star Trek,

which is apparently unused uh... camera takes

the heat alternate in the source cues that's

what i love about us uh... certain things about

movies and t .v. shows you look at like that

in the animated series and there's several times

with the joker has his theme music like the once

he's doing his t .v. show and things like that

they put those source cues on the batman sees

a long as released in here for source cues you

have the uh... coughlin brothers mortuary The

I don't remember that unfortunately, you know,

it's I'm gonna have to go back and listen to

it again. I mean, it's just it's not that It's

like trying to place some of the stuff. It's

like where the hell would that come from obviously

commercials and stuff No, no, it's in the movie.

It's when they it's the source cue for it. It's

when they When the when Rooney calls the the

funeral home and we first see it That's when

the music happens is the phones ringing that's

right at the funeral home and the machine picks

it up uh... silver and you have our ballpark

baloney ballpark baloney is hey that i have and

i have a showing that way to go cubs now you

can win another two centuries to win again yes

i stole a joke from my buddy neil well i already

told somebody that you know this is proof that

uh... That the world is going to end come you

know come Thursday or Tuesday or whatever it

is Yeah, you know the Cubs won the World Series

that means that Trump is going to win the world's

going to fall apart You know dogs and cats living

together mass hysteria. Yeah But, you know, like

I said, you know, I've had this score for a couple

of weeks since Matt over at La La Land sent it

to me, and just listening to it again, actually,

I have two versions. I have one with everything

in it, and then I had to go and take Iris stuff

out to put in a separate playlist so I could

just hear the instrumental stuff, and it's just

so good. I absolutely love this. This is not

just, it is because it's Ferris Bueller, folks,

but... Even if this wasn't I Would still be listening

to this stuff because this is some really good

music. Yeah, it is Yeah, it is just I you know

everything about this one. I I was really impressed.

This is This as opposed to the primal fear soundtrack.

I could listen to this one on a car trip. No

problem Continuously, you know, I this would

be on my iPod for sure. Oh, absolutely. Yeah

So I think that's gonna do it for us here inside

the Lawn Lounge. I assume that we're both giving

the Ferris release a five, even though there

are certain things that are missing, but that

could not be helped. I'm gonna give it a four

and a half. out of five just because of that.

I gotta give it a five because it's just so fun

to listen to. Coming up next here in the La La

Land Lounge, I'm not sure. I do know that starting

this Thursday we're gonna be having our gc are

in top one hundred animated characters countdown

with uh... part one which is the reveals of numbers

one hundred to seventy six seems like that on

thursday uh... next time around for the well

we might do justice league versus teen titans

in batman bad blood which is actually kind of

funny because it's two movies two scores by frederick

weedman And it's on one day. Well, it's on it's

on two discs, but it's one release So how I've

been doing these is I've been taking two things

and mashing them together like we had flash season

2 and Supergirl season 1 we had You know this

time around we had primal fear and Ferris Bueller

with this one All that to do is just do one episode

talk about two different movies I also have blind

spot season 1 by Blake Neely over here. So we

got that and then there's DC's Legends of Tomorrow

Season 1 and Arrow Season 4 so got a few more

episodes coming up and then whatever La La Land

sends me for for Christmas this year I'm not

sure what their their Christmas releases are

gonna be so so that's what's gonna be coming

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Cameron's gonna be okay? Oh, yeah Yeah, sure

for the first time in his life He's gonna be

just fine You knew what you were doing when you

woke up this morning didn't you me Call you tonight.

Okay. I love you! I love you, too! He's gonna

marry me. You know what it's like to be pulled

out of work to pick up your daughter at the police

station? No, not really. Well, on top of everything

else, I was about to close the damn deal with

the Vermont people. I was gonna take my commission

and buy Farrah's a car. Let's go in and check,

okay? How was your day? I have dreamed about

this. This time, God damn you, little bastard.

I've got you right where I want you. Maris, we're

home. So... How would you feel about another

year of high school? Under my close... Personal

supervision. Hi. Thank God you're all right.

You know, we've been worried sick about you.

Thank you, Mr. Rooney, for driving him home.

Now, I want you to go upstairs and get in bed.

Scoot! Can you imagine someone as sick as Ferris

trying to walk home from the hospital? Oh, kids.

By the way, Mr. Rooney, you left your wallet

on the kitchen floor.