Kevin Smith Retrospective Jersey Girl Review

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the cinema geeks podcast as we continue our retrospective

of Kevin Smith today, we will be discussing that

holiday classic Jersey girl, we actually been

going through the career of Kevin Smith starting

with the very first film clerks working our way

through his career. Now we're up to the notorious

Jersey girl. We're finally here. Joining me throughout

this adventure, my fellow cinema geeks have been

joining me, starting with, of course, Hard Candy

Mandy. How's it going? Hey guys. Kevin, Optimus

Solo. How's it going? And last but not least,

Matt Fridley -Santz. Parents just don't understand

guys. They just don't know Neither does Ben Affleck

Yeah, very true. So yes, we've been going through

the career of Kevin Smith We've been talking

about all those films What we've liked not liked

and now we've made it our way to Jersey girl

when this was a first time watch for me And I

think a few of us so I'm kind of interested to

see because this obviously had a lot of press

about it during the time for for a lot of different

reasons. And I think, you know, it's notoriously

people claim it to be Kevin Smith's worst film

with a given. Kevin Smith says that. So I was

interested in how that affected our viewpoint

of the movie going in and after we watch it.

So, Amanda, let's let's start with you. What

was your overall opinion of Jersey Girl? I liked

it. I've seen it before. This definitely wasn't

a first -time watch, but I did not realize that

this was a Kevin Smith movie when I saw it the

first time. Because it just doesn't feel like

the others. It's got its own... It's like his

own little genre within what he's been doing

already. It's not something that we've gotten

exactly from him before, I don't think. But it

still has some things that, after you know that

it's a Kevin Smith... film that I think I can

pick them out easier like some of his humor and

some things that he thinks like the heavy sex

stuff like when she's you know interviewing and

like Researching like is it the? Masturbation

or porn rentals or something like that like they

get right into it when it comes to the sex stuff

I feel like that's very Kevin Smith, but as far

as As much heart is this had in it. I think it's

it's way beyond what we've gotten so far Interesting

starting off positive Kevin. Do you continue

that or what were your thoughts of? Well, I would

echo one thing that Amanda said for sure, which

is that it doesn't feel like a Kevin Smith film.

You could show this to a lot of people and then

show the other films that we've reviewed so far,

and I don't think a lot of people would say,

yeah, those are connected or made by the same

person. So I think it's missing a lot of the

Kevin Smith aspects that we're kind of used to

or that we've discussed in some of the other

previous films. I think it does sneak in in a

couple parts, which we might be able to get into

a little bit later. I think there's a couple

sequences or settings where you see a little

bit of it, but... I don't think if you didn't

have the knowledge already that he was doing

this that you'd be able to pick it out as characteristics

of a Kevin Smith film. That being said, for me

it's just kind of the standard romantic comedy

with what they usually try to put a little twist

in there some way, shape or form. Whether it

be the actual coincidences or the sequences that

it's happening or something about the the setup

is usually somewhat trying to be unique But if

you take that away, it turns into what could

be I don't know romantic comedies right where

I guess I don't know because there's a little

bit of drama there. There's a little bit of Emotional

impact as well. So but I don't know if it really

does much to separate itself from other films

in its Genre, so to speak. So I'm kind of mixed

on this one interesting interesting Matt, how

about you? I know you came in as probably the

biggest Kevin Smith fan. And I know a lot of

Kevin Smith fans tend to not like this movie.

As Amanda mentioned, a lot of people feel like

it's very different for him. So what was your

overall viewpoint of Jersey Girl? Man, this is,

I don't know. If I'm not going for an adventurous

fantasy or sci -fi movie, this is exactly the

type of movie I want. I want this. drama, comedy,

romance, plot. Like, this really is right in

my wheelhouse. And I think the fact that Kevin

Smith does it, he gets a little extra out of

me, you know, just like referencing Star Wars

and Batman, just like, in a way that feels natural,

like, that I would do in my real life. Like,

it doesn't belabor the point, like, sometimes

happens in clerks and stuff. Like, so it's got

some of those Kevin Smith elements. um without

being just a stoner flick interesting i i gotta

say like going into this i i thought you know

if you asked me like thinking of just a reputation

that we would we would start off a lot more negative

about about jersey girl but you know i went into

this uh knowing all about you know the stuff

i was talking about seeing many Kevin Smith conversations

and seeing him and put this down and just knowing

that it has his reputation and it's one of the

reasons I've stayed away from for so long and

you know watching it I think I walked away wondering

like I don't understand where all this gigantic

hate is coming from or like why it is viewed

so poorly compared to everything else that he's

done or of the time like it what would I call

it a great movie? by no stretch of the imagination.

It's standard affair for sure, but I guess it

to me seems like a movie that suffered from a

lot of just the press at the time. I think Ben

Affleck and Jennifer Lopez, they were huge in

the tabloids at that moment in time and it seemed

like a lot of that seeped into cyber rights from

their views at the time and they were just like

vicious towards this movie. Perhaps it's a little

sanctimonious. It's, you know, a little small

to see here and there, but I thought, you know,

overall, like, you know, this is Kevin Smith

says his mom's favorite movie of his and I could

get that. Like this is a Kevin Smith movie I

could show my mom and I never thought I'd be

able to say that. But yeah, I thought overall,

like I thought, yeah, this was perfectly adequate,

a little bit unremarkable, but I thought there

were parts of it that I ended up really liking.

So many you mentioned I know Amanda you've had

different feelings towards some of the Kevin

Smith movie some of them you like you didn't

like Was was it because you had that? Like Kevin

Smith his overall style was a little bit muted

that you felt like this one worked more for you

than some of the other movies I just felt like

I could connect to it a lot more and That I could

get behind what was happening and like I could

Feel the emotions of the characters. So like

I connect more with this like it was more real

people that I could see myself Being you know,

any one of these people? Yeah, I could see that

I think certainly it's interesting because you

say that anything about like The reaction a lot

of people have to clerks and a lot of the community

connects with that because they they speak the

same language But I could see similar to that

with Jersey Gill and I know Kevin you mentioned

that there were certain aspects where you felt

like hey, this is you can see Smith seeking in

there What were some of those moments that you

felt that this did kind of feel like Kevin Smith

had? More of a hand in it than some of the other

moments. I think it mainly well almost a hundred

percent revolves around The character of Maya

Harding played by Liv Tyler like I think if you

take Liv Tyler out of this movie Which wouldn't

make any sense because it was the whole stories

She's a major part of that but like if you take

that aspects out like I don't think you have

I don't think you're left with anything Kevin

Smith I think in the rest of the movie for me

it doesn't seem like like she represents a lot

of stuff whether it's her as a character the

dialogue that's involved in her sequences or

even just like from a physical standpoint the

fact that she works at a video store like there's

just aspects of that that just scream Kevin Smith

and kind of harken back to some of his other

films so I mean I think right from the beginning

where you're introduced to her character and

then some of the conversations she has with with

Ben Affleck's character because she kind of represents

that person that's I don't know like breaking

down the walls of different characters to kind

of just tell it how it is and that you do not

have those restraints that a lot of us might

have in conversations with people we don't know

or even sometimes with people that we do know

so that kind of got into more of those discussion

pieces that we've seen in dialogue heavy aspects

that we've seen in some of the other films so

I think it was a lot revolving around her I think

you might be able to sense a little bit with

George Carlin's character as well as his buddies.

You might get a little bit from that, but for

me, it's a lot to do with Liv Tyler. That's where

I felt like, okay, this is a Kevin Smith film

and I recognize some of these things that were

going on. Do you agree with that? Do you feel

like Liv Tyler's character was akin to thinking

of the characters in Chasing Amy or some of the

other females that he's created in his films?

You do see elements, like she's a lot like the

female character from Mallrats, the 16 -year

-old who's writing a term paper, right? Like

it's a very similar concept there. And there

are all these very Kevin Smith throughput elements,

like the movie store is always a big thing because

that was a huge thing in his childhood. Uh, you

know, like I mentioned earlier the batman and

star wars references that you see um, like it

does have a lot of little kevin smith elements,

even if it doesn't have any Like weed at all

in this whole movie, right? I don't think so

No, maybe it would now because I think this was

before we started smoking So maybe maybe if you

made gerzigal 2 which is hey, there's worse things

But I know when he set off to make this, Ben

Affleck was trying to get him to make something

that was like Jason and Amy again along those

lines that kind of got at something different

than some of his other movies. And I can see

where some of those attempts are being made with

this, especially with Ben Affleck's characters,

the struggles he's going through, trying to get

him to connect to this young... daughter and

how he's kind of conflicted and the fact that

he's but I guess where Kind of going back to

the Kevin's point I almost felt like he didn't

go as far as with it with Jersey girl as he did

with with with choosing Amy I'm thinking of like

the sequence in which you know, he's finally

having that last major breakdown when he's conflicted

between him going to to the play for his daughter

or going to this interview and he lashes out.

And I thought that was one of the moments where

you felt like this went a different place than

you would for a typical movie of this nature.

But other than that, I thought some of the George

Carlin stuff was overall good and those moments

worked. But I guess I felt it's outside of that

specific sequence and some of the other bits

and pieces, it felt a little bit more conventional

than something like Chase and Amy. Yeah, I agree,

too. And also, obviously, is dealing with a few

more concepts that we haven't seen explored in

the other ones. Because for the most part, most

of these films have been younger individuals

dealing with things you would at a more immature

age or more of a developmental stage in your

life where they're... you know, at a job, or

they're dealing with, you know, single guys talking

about girls, or this, that, and the other, whereas

this one, you have a definite structure of a

family, you have a child involved, you have parents

involved, so it's some of those that we don't,

usually we don't get the other sides, like most

of his films have been just one age bracket,

it seems like, and you don't deal much with,

you know, people's parents, or people's kids,

or things of that nature, so I think just from

a structure standpoint, you have like a different

element that we're not used to seeing in a Kevin

Smith film, so it's weird. because it's like

I feel like someone else does this without any

of those aspects and it is more of a conventional

film but then when Kevin Smith does it because

he's never done anything it doesn't feel conventional

for him yet it's somewhat conventional from I

guess a setting story you know plot and that

type of stuff so it's like a weird thing when

you're watching it I think kind of balancing

those things out because it's both conventional

as a movie but unconventional for the director

and it's weird It kind of reminded me some of

something like Jane and silence strike back in

the way where that felt like it was akin to other

movies of like the cannonball run era where you

know that this was oh I don't even know what

genre like you said I don't think it's romantic

comedy would would be you know within that realm

But like there were like there are some things

where I'm like, okay There's Kevin Smith trying

to be a little bit different like the fact that

she The play that she's doing her was from, you

know, she's can't think of the demon barber Yes,

we need Todd Which was you know, pretty cool

and I think at that time I mean that was well

before them like the sweetie Tom movie came out

and I think you know getting a little bit of

niche culture before I mean, I guess it's not

that minute because it was a probably play but

Right, but I thought that was kind of that was

a funny sequence and how they utilized that like

that was I thought an example of him trying to

do you know push it a little involved a little

bit even if he was maybe placing himself in more

of a box, but How do you know speaking of Jersey

girl? the relationship of Ben Affleck and that

of his daughter played by Raquel Castro, you

know, who was I think, I don't know, 10 at the

time when this was coming out or around that

age. How did we feel that like that worked and

how she was as a child actress? Was she believable?

Was the relationship that the film was built

on? Did that work for you all? I think she was

super cute. And I think that She worked really

well with Ben Affleck and George Carlin like

you can tell that she had Some good chemistry

and in you you believe the relationship she had

with everybody. I agree with Amanda I think I

think she worked well And obviously it's part

of Ben Affleck's character, but you're talking

about the relationship between the two. I mean,

good God, is that guy just a terrible dad in

the first half of this film? Oh my God. Yeah,

I hate him. It's weird because, and obviously

that's unintentional and we're supposed to think

that and see that, but it's just weird to, and

I'm obviously not a parent, never been a parent,

so I can't relate, but the typical thing you

hear is when that child comes into that parent's

life, even if they were kind of a douchebag up

until that point, or even if they were someone

that kind of put - work first like a switch goes

off it seems like traditionally you hear that

like you know all of a sudden their world changes

and it's like why is that not happening with

Ben Affleck's character in the first half of

this film so that was like weird to like see

a different take on that but I think you know

as we go through the relationship between him

and his and his daughter's is is good but I think

I really appreciated the child performance almost

even more than than Ben Affleck's performance

because she interacts with a lot of different

individuals and it seems like all of them worked

What about you man? What do you think about it?

I think that Yeah, I mean the child performance

was way above average like Like you even asked

the question in my immediate thought was oh,

yeah, she was acting like she did a real good

job like I usually Don't give it up for for child

performers, you know It's once a seems like once

in a blue moon you get one that that's worth

mentioning and I gotta say like I I didn't find

any fault I never got taken out or anything Yeah,

I thought she was quite good and I thought they

had a good back -and -forth and she had some

of the Some of the funnier moments and when the

script called it to be a little bit more dramatic.

I think she pulled it off which is clearly difficult.

And that's something I think on a directing standpoint,

you do have to give Kevin Smith kudos for because

it is challenging to direct kids and get the

right kid for the right role. And I thought they

did that. And I thought, you know, even like

her interaction with Liv Tyler worked really

well. And it probably had like my favorite scene

or back to back scenes where you the juxtaposition

of conversation between him having it with a

Ben Affleck talking to her about after He catches

her with a young boy, you know playing i'll show

you yours And then then flipping flipping back

when uh, she catches him So I thought that was

you know, I got that was like a one of the best

Like jokes kevin smith did that had no vulgarity

in it Like which you know, so showing that he

you know, he can Be clean and funny at the same

time. I also like the whole um Running theme

with the Will Smith aspect of the film. I thought

that was subtle yet funny And an interesting

way to do that. I thought it led to some interesting

sequences Obviously the beginning where Ben Affleck's

finally, you know having his meltdown But then

also kind of a pretty cool scene between them

as they're sitting in the the waiting room of

that office, too So I kind of liked that aspect

of it even though I had nothing to do with what

you're asking me about To speak to that, did

anyone else know that Will Smith had three kids?

I only knew about Jaden and Willow. Like I actually

learned that he had an additional son through

this movie. Son? Yeah, he's got another kid.

I couldn't tell you what their name is. I knew

he had one that was older, but I think it's from

a different person. But is like I think he was

Like his this oldest kid. I don't know why I

know that's cuz my wife watches his YouTube channel

And I think that's one reason I know the other

one's name is Trey Trey He apparently does not

get a Wikipedia page because Jayden and Willow

both have one but Trey does not Yeah When we

did talk about Ben Affleck and I know like when

I was looking at some of the reviews That were

very like I said very nasty torches movie He

was a big lightning rod for that and his performance

many people especially some of the more heavy

lifting scenes like when he finally has to break

down become a Decides to begin become a dad or

you know some of the other moments. How did we

feel Ben Affleck? Worked with us on our own.

Do you what did you think of his performance

overall? I think he was solid. I believed it.

I believed his struggle. I believed his pain

and As much as I wanted a punch him in the frickin

throat for being an awful person in the beginning

I think he for the most part got it together

and did what he had to do to be a dad and a provider

And I think he learned to learn some good lessons

I don't know like I'm a little I don't know if

it's just because he's up against someone like

George Carlin or Even Liv Tyler who I think at

the time was maybe a little bit more of a polish

or not I don't know polish but a higher caliber

actor as he was but he I don't know he came across

like it's still kind of that This was 2004 so

I should feel like it shouldn't be but I don't

know I felt like it was a little rough for him

around the edges I don't think it was anything

that he deserved to be like taking a task for

anything like that, but So far the Ben Affleck

scenes and movies that he's appeared in in the

Kevin Smith universe I guess the view is human

or how do you say it? I don't think would would

make Ben Affleck's highlight reel of his career

so far But maybe that's being a little overly

harsh Interesting. Matt, what about you? I don't

have any complaints. I enjoy Ben Affleck, probably

particularly in Kevin Smith movies. When everyone

was complaining about him as the Batman, that

was my very first thing I said. Have you seen

him in the Kevin Smith movies? He could definitely

act. I get that you don't like, I don't know,

goodwill hunting or whatever. I thought he was

on par with what I expect from Ben Affleck. I

didn't have any complaints. Yeah, I I don't know

like I there are parts that I thought did work

like I thought I actually thought the sequence

where he's breaking down Was one of the better

examples of it, but I don't know if I ever felt

like him and Liv Tyler had a lot of chemistry

That's only performance per se but and part of

that was just his was purposeful Based upon the

film, but yeah, like I don't think this is I

think I liked him more in something like Jason

and Amy. And then again, that could be more so

the character than the actual performance itself.

But I don't think it's awful by any means, like

I saw people indicating. And yeah, there are

some moments where he is emoting to a great degree,

but I felt considering the situation, it was...

Perversible it's also an interesting period in

Ben Affleck's filmography if you kind of go through

it because he kind of was in like a little bit

of a I don't know I would say he's almost in

like a dead period of his career from You know

he had done some things You've been in like Pearl

Harbor, which is a terrible movie, but he wasn't

awful in it And obviously a lot of things earlier

on Armageddon and some of the other Kevin Smith

stuff But then this is like a five -year period

where I don't think he did a single film that

was anything to write home about I mean, this

is when G. Lee, or however you say that one was,

Paycheck, Electra, Jersey Girl, there was probably

about four or five other films that I haven't

seen in this time period, so I guess I can't

speak for those, but it was kind of a rough time

before he got kind of going back with it with

stuff like Gone Baby Gone. Obviously more recently

the town and Argo and some of that stuff So it

was kind of an interesting point in his career

where he had a lot of success early on and this

was kind of like I don't know his sophomore slump

So to speak it was like a little middle period

where it seemed a little dead for him Yeah, yeah,

I think and I know and it's interesting because

he specifically like imagine like I think he

was a person really spearheading the Kevin Smith

said to write something like this and and I wonder

if it like that slump led him to like think okay

let me get behind the camera and make some movies

and you know with gone be we gone then argo and

the town um but yeah i think and like i said

i think this was when the his whole tabloid life

was like huge and and i think that kind of overtook

his actual acting career yeah i think so too

but um but it's well one thing we didn't really

We talked a little bit about the supporting cast,

but I did think it was pretty strong, like George

Carlin and his little friend group. They had

some of the better comic relief. And I thought,

performance -wise, George Carlin, I thought he

would just be a guy who came in and said some

funny lines, but he actually had some legitimate

acting moments. And I was like, wow, Carlin has

some ability that I thought... His character

ended up being one of the better parts of the

film. Yeah, I agree. I think Steven Root and

George Carlin. I think it was Steven Root. And

I can't remember who the third guy was actor

-wise. But I thought those three were definitely

a good part of the supporting cast. I also really

like I'm gonna say her name wrong, but S. Apotham

-Murkison, who played the doctor. I've liked

her in a lot of other stuff, and I was somewhat

shocked at first because there's a sequence where

she appears, and she's a fairly well -known actress,

especially during this time, and like... I'm

like, why did they have her in that role that

was so minor and so inconsequential, but then

obviously she comes back later on and has a bigger

role in the film, so I was like, oh, okay, now

it makes sense, because I was so confused why

that wasn't just a nobody that was in that role

at first, but yeah, I think there's a lot of

decent supporting cast here. Oh, man, I feel

like there had to be something, but I can't think

of what it was. I just oh I think that like was

this movie truly panned I thought like like I

don't know I I know a lot of people say negative

things But it's like one of his better like as

far as if you just look at the box office numbers

It's done better than most of his movies. It's

like of the ones he's written It's number four

of the ones he's directed is number five because

there's you know one that he didn't direct there

didn't write but like It's a decent movie. It's

fine. Like it doesn't break any boundaries, but

like for some reason has an exorbitant Budget

That would have been nearly impossible for a

film like this to overcome. Yeah, it only it

only made 1 million more than its budget And

it was nominated for three Razzie Awards not

that anybody cares about Razzie's but you know

worse actor worse actress worst on -screen couple

But it's not terrible on Rotten Tomatoes. I mean,

it has a 41 % which is not great, but it's not

terrible. But what's a little odd too is that

it has a 48 % audience score, which is usually

with Kevin Smith movies. They usually have a

decent... He's usually in the 80s when it comes

to the audience. Dogma, Clarke, Marrats, those

are... When it comes to the fan reaction, they're

usually a lot higher. Jersey girl, it seems like

yeah, it wasn't like, you know, it wasn't I Think

something like, you know, some movies will get

to like tusk probably was panned a lot more but

When I was doing research and looking at like

the rankings of a lot of Kevin Smith movies most

Had it listed well at the bottom of his career

or just reading some of the reviews of the time

were like pretty, pretty harsh on it. So I mean,

there was some people that there were some people

that were I think positive, like we overall were.

But I think, like I mentioned, it just seemed

like people that were sick of the benefit thing

of time. And they let that maybe my guessing

what that impact their overall Review of the

movie. Yeah, I think it's a I think Dan hit it

on the head I think it's a product of its time

and when it came out because this is right when

they were at the height of their tabloid stuff

This is when they broke up I think that even

affected some of the sequences in the movie because

they had split up and they weren't able to get

Jennifer Lopez to do Some parts I don't know

the ins and outs of it somebody else probably

has more knowledge of that but so I think that's

you know that and coming off the Heals of Geely

or whatever you call it which got even worse

reviews obviously didn't help its situation.

I think if that movie had come out in a you know,

a few years prior, a few years after, it might

not have got panned quite as much. And I think

some people hoped it would have been, like, the

Heights of Jason Ami or something like that.

Right. It didn't. It could have been something

where, like, we see a lot with movie reviews

and critics especially where if it's not the

movie they expect it to be, they end up scoring

it negative, which doesn't necessarily mean it

was a bad movie. It just might not have been

what they thought they were walking into. Yeah,

I'm actually kind of glad we just did this retrospective

because now I'm like, I have a much more of appreciation

for this film. Like I said, it's not one I would

call high art, but I thought it was effective

for what it was going for. But all right, well,

let's go around and give our final thoughts and

overall grade for Jersey Girl. Amanda, let's

start with you. I don't agree with any of the

hate. I enjoyed it. It's it was a good movie

as Heartbreaking as it is. It's got some really

Like warm moments and Like I said, this is you

know Ben Affleck learned some good lessons and

it's a good journey to go on So I enjoyed it.

I'm gonna give it a point five Wow, is that the

highest score you've given? Interesting. It's

going to be fun when we finally get the rankings.

That's interesting. Kevin, how about you? I think

what works for this film is I think it has a

good balance of different types of moments because

you got a little bit of emotional impact. You

have a little bit of comedy. I think the right

amount of comedy sprinkled in. I think you have

some decent acting performances here and there.

decent dialogue. So I mean, it has a little of

a lot of different things. But for me, it's I

don't know. Like I said, I don't know if it has

much that's going to separate itself from just

a lot of other films that would kind of fall

in that same yoke. I think I do appreciate the

Kevin Smith aspects that are there. So for that,

I think I'll land like at a six out of 10 for

me. All right, Matt, how about yourself? I like

it. I wish I'd seen it before. I tried to see

it a couple of years ago, but I couldn't find

a place to get it for cheap. All of the streaming

services were only buy, not rent. which I imagine

is because of how poorly rated it is, which I

don't think it deserves. I don't think it's as

good as Chasing Amy. I do like it. I like the

Kevin Smith elements to it, even if it's not

a total stoner flick. I think I actually like

this and Chasing Amy more than most of his work,

like, or at least this genre of Kevin Smith's

film more than the stoner flick. But it's also

not the best. So like, I want to say eight. All

right, well and and yeah like Angelic George

is then like again a big part of that was expectations

going in this just waiting for like, okay What

is this all this awfulness supposed to occur

and I walked away thinking And I mean this as

a compliment like this is like the perfect airplane

movie. Like it's like it's It's one you can like

watch with a group of people that you don't know

and feel comfortable about it has some funny

moments It has some emotional moments, especially

ones that that would be heightened if you're

you know, a few miles high in the sky but I walked

away, you know happy and enjoying it and and

I was not expecting it and Okay, like I agree

with Matt. I don't think it's you know to the

Kevin Smith level of like something like Jason

Amy and I don't think it It lacks me with the

originality of some of the other Kevin Smith

projects that maybe hold it back a little bit

but I think for a Straightforward romantic ass

comedy that has a pretty solid father -daughter

story. I enjoyed it. I may be at the time being

a Teenager when it came out. I probably would

have hated it. But as a more mature adult, I

think I like it a little bit more I don't know,

but I'll give it an overall six out of ten Actually,

I wouldn't be a teenager I would have been maybe

now I guess it would be I don't even know time's

hard math is hard this come out 2004 so So I

would yeah, I still be a teenager that works.

No, I wouldn't be I would be I would be I was

I don't know Yeah, I was leaving the teenage

years, right? No, I was like I didn't graduate

I was high school until 2006. Okay No, I actually

know yeah, I'd be 19 out of a 19 uh 20 1920 when

this came out so i was my late late teens but

anyways but next movie coming up we're actually

going to go back to where it all began with the

viewer school universe and clerks 2 which is

another kevin smith film that i have not watched

in its entirety i have any of you watched clerks

2 yet yes this will be a first time watch for

me i've seen it interesting matt how about you

I've seen it a number of times Okay, and yeah,

I think that is if I'm looking correctly that's

the last you screw universe movie as of right

now I think I don't know if yoga herzers or tusks

exists in that same universe but I know cop out

and I don't know. Anyways, that's not important,

but that'll be the next movie. We cover and Kevin

Smith We're actually going through his career

quite quickly I think quicker than a game Miyazaki

helps when you don't have 30 movies to talk about

but uh, all right Well people want it again Touch

with all of us on Twitter. How can I do that?

Amanda, what is your Twitter name? You can find

me on Twitter at HardCandyMandy, I's and a Y's.

Kevin? You can find me at OptimusSolo and NewsFlash.

Apparently, I am now a nice guy on Twitter. So

you can look me up there and interact with me.

Oh, so you stop tweeting. And Matt? At Fridleysen.

I am at me revolt in the podcast and we get geeks

as that's in McGee cast as well If you want you

can leave a comment episode post a geek cast

radio Go to iTunes give us a review really appreciate

that also I think you still have the chance to

win all the video game movies from Kevin. So

there's that So you don't want to miss out on

that because who else is gonna watch postal Is

that one you bought? I don't remember. I don't

remember what's in that guy I'll have to go review

the six pack that that is up for grabs, but I

we do have people in there So if you want to

get in that contest you have very limited times

I'll go do it now And if you have been waiting

until it's over to leave us review that time

is about to approach as well Yeah, so we'll be

getting done with the video game podcast relatively

soon. We have some other things playing after

that Well, you'll get the opportunity to maybe

vote on what our next Marathon would be hopefully

movies that are good because that would be nice

But alright, well this ended up being a lot more

positive than I you know thought going in so

that was kind of cool I'm interested to seeing

people's reaction to that I think we were more

positive about this than Jane's slight and silent

Bob strike back, which is interesting We'll see.

Alrighty. Well, that'll be it for this week.

Join us next time as we continue our Kevin Smith

retrospective as we discuss Clorox 2. Until then,

thanks for listening.