80s Cartoon Villain Tournament Finale

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to pass. One shall stand. One shall fall. Welcome

to GCR and wars episode 10 the 80s cartoon villain

tournament grand finale I am one of your host

Steve Joe and Mike joining me is Mike the Birdman

Dodd from this week and geek and all the other

dumb shit he does Wow And clear channel communications

bitch you're still working for them. Yep five

years later TVs mr. Neal I belong to nobody Steve

Megatron that was terrible and the always late

never on time optimus solo yes sir! we are here

to bring you the grand finale of our eighties

villains tournament and boy is it gonna be a

doozy but first we kick it over to steve to give

us the results of the semi -finals i think i'll

make you wait Just kidding, just kidding. For

fight one of the quarterfinals or semi -finals,

get off my lawn. It's Skeletor at 32 with Cobra

Commander at 17. No! Betrayal! Yes! Retreat.

Hey, they didn't rally their troops good enough.

That's their fault. Yep. Cobra just checked their

email. Well, I posted it on their Facebook wall.

They never even commented on the post I made.

I twittered them. Yeah. Yeah, what's on your

mind? Let Cobra Commander down. So basically

what Skeletor says to Cobra Commander at this

point is Suck my balls, he -man. Or Cobra. So

and yes the second battle and the second battle

as usual went to my favor mum rose my bitch at

10 with Megatron at 40 the fusion cannon for

the win It's a boomstick everybody loves a boomstick

He vanished that little ghostly magical bastard

back to the nether realm that's right that's

right all right so is there anything you want

to bring up optimus solo no that brings us to

our grand finale which if people couldn't put

two and two together is skeletor versus megatron

let's hear from the combatants perhaps someday

you will but not today wait I still function

most interesting all right so after many grueling

battles we have come to the final battle Skeletor

versus Megatron magic versus fusion cannon Well,

you know, I want to throw this argument right

out the window right now They both equally sucked

when it comes to their plans a lot of the time

as did every other villain on this entire list

Agree. Alright, but I'm just saying like no one,

Neil, can bring that up, Neil. At all, Neil.

Because we all know they both suck at following

through with their plans. Their plans might be

great in the beginning, but the execution...

Yeah, but look at it this way. Megatron actually

conquered Cybertron. Skeletor couldn't conquer

his backyard. Gotta give him that. So many things

I want to say that I fear I should not. Well,

go ahead. This is the wards. Yeah, I mean, go

ahead. I'm just saying, one of them may have

died and one of them may have not have died.

No! Save that for later. We'll save that bullshit

argument for later. But either way, neither one

was successful. Right? Yeah. Neither one accomplished

their mission. I think he can make a pretty strong

fight or argument for Megatron actually accomplishing

stuff as opposed to Skeletor. I think his ultimate

mission. Yeah, his ultimate mission, yeah. Well,

even then. Even then, he got Beast Wars Megatron

to take on his mission. Yeah, and he did take

over Cybertron. I mean, the Autobots, sure, they

won the war after all, but not without heavy

casualties. But this Megatron did suck. Well,

he did cause the other Megatron to obliterate

an entire race, with the exception of five Sparks.

Yeah, I'd say that's pretty intense. Like I said,

what has Skeletor got going for him? Snake Mountain

and Beast Man and a whole harmonic. E -Man kicked

my ass. Second! Skeletor never died. Um, but

anyway. Megatron didn't either. Yeah, technically,

yeah. Oh my goodness, we're... This is going

to be four against one. I can already tell you

right now. I'm not trying to go there because

I realize I'm going to get annihilated by brute

force. It's not brute force. You're wrong. It's

one simple fact. Flint Dilley, the guy who wrote

the movie, says that Megatron and Galvatron are

the same character. Okay, that's one person.

It's like... But he created that. Regardless,

the fact is Megatron already beat someone that

has magical power in Mumrah. And Mumrah has infinite

more magical power than Skeletor does. So Skeletor

really stands no chance. Shut up. If Megatron

can somehow beat Mumrah, who should have been

his kryptonite... Then he can probably beat Megatron

or I'm sorry Skeletor who is Megatron can beat

Megatron Nice Megatron can probably beat Skeletor

who is far less of a magician and and mystical

magical power than Mumrah is I mean if this was

it okay timeout if this was Mumrah versus Skeletor

who would win If this was Mumrah versus Skeletor

Mumrah would kick his ass I'm saying Mumrah so

if Skeletor beat Mumrah He obviously beat Skeletor

Well the thing is though is that the skeleton's

downfall even in a one -on -one battle without

any Any of his dumbass warriors helping him?

He always relies on mystical objects Not counting

his havoc staff because that's his main weapon,

but like you know Staff of Wacom or whatever

you know it like staff of the week sort of the

week stone of the week. You know, he always relies

on that kind of stuff to accomplish his goals.

And all Megatron's gotta do is just shoot him

in the fucking hand. And all a magician has to

do is make some type of spell that results in

Megatron being handicapped. But how many times

in the cartoon did either Mumrah or Skeletor

do something like that? I went back and I watched

a few clips. They never went against a robotic

form. But they could have turned He -Man's sword

into dirt. Or teleported it somewhere else. But

look at this way, He -Man's sword is also magical

too. They could have teleported He -Man by himself.

They did teleport He -Man to a different dimension.

Skeletor did do that in one of the episodes.

I don't see why they didn't keep throwing him

back there, or teleport him in the middle of

a rock. Or space. Well that idea didn't work.

You see how you breathe here? Like underwater.

God, let's see how you breathe here would come

into 80s 80s hero female heroines because holy

crap There's an episode of Shiro where she takes

off her sword helmet for half a second when she's

in space Anyway, and her blood boils and she

does my argument is not that Megatron should

beat Skeletor Megatron should beat Skeletor seven

days a week Megatron should not have eaten momra

Okay, that's my argument. I think that's pretty

solid Against Skeletor, yes. Megatron a hundred

times. A hundred times he beat Skeletor. Then

technically Megatron and Skelet - er, and Mamura

should have been on separate sides of the bracket.

So that Mamura could have defeated Skeletor.

I thought it would be Moanstar against Megatron,

in which case I would have sided on Megatron's

side. That would have been a fucking cool battle

to see though. I thought that's what we were

gonna see. But Mamura kicked his ass. A hundred

percent intended on seeing Mondstar versus Megatron

in a battle of two metal giant people that have

lots of powers. That would have been cool, but...

But again, like Steve just pointed out, Mondstar

was on the same side of the bracket as Megatron,

so you wouldn't have seen Mondstar and Megatron.

No, you wouldn't have. We would have last round.

If Mammar was not on this side of the bracket.

I wanted to see Skeletor versus Cobra Commander

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That's Napa know -how. That did not happen. I'm

just happy that it's not Transformers versus

G .I. Joe, so at least people will shut up about

us, about that aspect of it. And again, that's

already been settled in, like, comic books anyway,

whereas this one is not. Right, but I want to

remind the listeners that this is not just our

opinions. Bill, this is your fault. Yeah, this

is all the listeners and the voters' fault. We

are five people. There might be five more people

out of the GCRN staff that voted, so that's ten

people. out of how many total votes steve? for

the semifinals? for the semifinals there was

a total of 50 votes for each one right so say

there's a total of 99 votes for both battles

we are 10 people out of 99 this is all the public's

fault as far as this matchup goes so no one can

blame us saying oh this is rigged Still only

yes people blame the voters That's what Obama

does Wow he didn't blame them he bribed them

You can't say this battle does come down to magic

versus might it's in the last round I also think

this comes through on follow through because

like I said Megatron is actually followed through

on a number of his plans now admittedly He was

defeated by a superior force because Megatron

is arrogant Skeletor is stupid Yeah, so that

still puts Megatron in favor of this battle Plus

even though Megatron fails a lot he he gets farther

along in his plans He did bring Cybertron into

Earth's atmosphere at one point And he did kill

Optimus Prime. Now, even in the regular series,

like, he turned him into, like, he put his hand

on the Empire State Building as a gun or something.

Like, so he has the capability to defeat his

greatest opponents, whereas Skeletor's victories

against He -Man are momentary at best. That episode.

There was an episode the season one finale of

g1 heavy metal war or Megatron cheated and got

every single Decepticons powers and just put

the beat down I was gonna bring that up last

time. He probably did that throughout the entire

tournament Yeah, there you go thus scouter is

fucked he would have been anyway Plus he's soft

and squishy stop This is such an unbalanced fight,

which is ridiculous, because Skeletor will not

use his magic until he's like, oh, maybe I should

have thought of this. He's always too little

too late. Whereas Mumra would actually have the

foresight to set up a trap. Skeletor just reacts.

I think anyway. Yeah, I agree. If it were, you

know, the actual finale between Mumra and Megatron,

it would have been more interesting. Only because

He's the only actual master of magic in this

entire tournament and Megatron is the only brute

force in this entire tournament So it would have

made more sense to have the two of them against

each other in the final round rather than the

semi -final to get to the final round but Yeah,

I mean we could have put all of the magical mystical

powers on one side of the bracket which note

for future self that may be interesting to have

like a Skeletor and a King Zarkon and a Venger

and a Mumrah all on the same side so that you

literally get the best of the Magical Mystical

Ward. World on one side, but yeah, I mean hindsight

is 2020 like I said I think I think it was a

more of an epic matchup Mumara versus Megatron

than it is Megatron versus Skeletor But I do

want to say that I am very happy that Skeletor

did beat Cobra because that is the legit right

way that that should have gone I don't know.

I think Cobra Commander is still smarter. Well,

he may be smarter, but to the same degree He's

just a man. I was once a man Fair enough, fair

enough. So, I mean, and it would have been, you

know, between Cobra Commander and Megatron, Megatron

would have outsmarted him by handing him Cybertron

cookies with viruses in them. And Cobra Commander

would just be screwed and crying like a bitch

on the ground. So. I'm flashing back. I think

it was the season 2 episode, Microbots. The only

way Skeletor is going to win this battle is if

he gets spiked energon and gives it to Megatron

and gets Megatron drone. Now, in this fight,

are we going to allow Skeletor to use any of

his wacky vehicles? He can use his vehicles.

He cannot use his minions. Yeah, they can't use

the minions. Anything that he himself can touch.

Now I think that may make this battle a little

more balanced because technically he's mixing

magic and tech Which is a very powerful combination

But ultimately I really think it's gonna come

down to intelligence and brute force whereas

Skeletor will pose with that stupid tarantula

robot thing i can't think of its name um and

you know he would attack megatron that'd be great

but he would wait for the killing blow he'd be

like i have you now you metallic dickhead and

megatron would be like huh yeah right and put

his fusion cannon under the fuselage and boom

the only way skeletor could win this matchup

is if for some reason megatron His arrogance

his ego his whatever got in the way and he had

the kill shot ready to go and he somehow hesitated

and Skeletor had some type of magnificent plan

that he could execute Otherwise Megatron wins

this fight Yeah, and it sucks because this one

is so lopsided Which kind of sucks? It is yes,

but you know at the end of the day What are you

going to do? People are going to say that Megatron

wins because we are a Transformers fan site,

et cetera. You show me the math where Skeletor

would win. And I was trying to do that. Literally,

there's 30, 40, 50 different votes going on in

these things. Some rounds have been up to 60,

70 votes. We comprise a very small portion of

that. We cannot control the outcome. Right. Exactly.

And that was my point earlier about letting the

listeners know, outside of the five of us that

are on this recording, there may be five others

that are amongst our GCRN staff that may vote.

The rest of it is everyone that comes to the

website that votes. That's all it is. I mean,

it has nothing to do with us and we can't, Steve

has fixed it to the point where you have to like,

once your IP address is tagged, you're done.

obviously you could go and try to cheat and i

can vouch for that i'm just kidding i'm saying

i'm saying you can go cheat and you know you

know have four or five different ip addresses

but i'm saying like if you're just going there

once and voting once that's one vote out of 50

yeah so you people out there do have a say before

skeletor joins his fellow defeated yes that's

right there is a chance in hell Skeletor beat

a lot of epic people to get here. FYI. He did.

He didn't even think he was going to make it

past round one with Hordak. He picked his clues

in round one. I know. Round one. Yeah. And then

round two we knew he was going to win and round

three we pretty much knew he was going to win.

I think Hordak must have tripped over his own

feet. No, Skeletor locked him up. He beat a lot.

I kind of wish I was on the other ones just so

I could have fought in Skeletor's favor or perhaps

some of the other people's favors For the record

though, he beat he beat King Zarkon and he beat

Cobra commander Megatron had a much easier path.

He beat Psykill No contest. Yeah, no contest

there. That should have been a buy. Shredder's

legit, Mumra's legit, but yeah. Yeah Yeah, Skeletor

really had the odds stacked against him. Yeah.

Yeah, like I mean King's Archon in theory should

have kicked his ass. That's the guy from like

Voltron, right? Yeah, fuck that guy. He would

have kicked his ass. Hordak should have beat

him. yeah and see that's the thing with hordak

versus skeletor to my knowledge just based on

the 83 filmation cartoon there was only one time

between he -man and she -ra that skeletor ever

won and i mentioned in a previous episode that

we talked about it was horde prime takes a holiday

because hordak got knocked out and was unconscious

and skeletor took over the ship and blah blah

and whatever else of course skeletor loses in

the end to he -man but It's one of those things

where we did not think Skeletor was going to

make it past round one. We figured Hordak was

the teacher, Hordak was the master, and he was

gonna kick Skeletor's ass. And the voting didn't

go that way. I think honestly Skeletor versus

Hordak is the biggest upset this entire tournament.

Yeah. As far as the character matchups, not just

the votes, but just the character matchups. Well,

yeah, yeah, I would agree to that too, but like

the rest of them like Like big boss and miles

mayhem. That's just Then on it, you know, Neil

said that the that Megatron versus versus sidekill

should have just been a buy miles versus Versus

big boss should have just been a tie The only

other one we disagreed on was danger against

Cobra commander. Yeah But that one I can see.

I can see that going either way, even though

we disagree on it. But yeah, Skeletor beating

Hordak and Murmurah beating Moonstar directly

went against every single person on the panel.

Yeah, that's crazy. Any other thoughts, Neil?

Uh, not at this time. My only thought is, the

person that we are picking to win this battle

may be the biggest. You know maybe the power

most powerful best gun most popular etc Is the

only one on the entire 16 panel to actually have

died in his continuity? anyway, no reformatted

there's a difference he died and got reformatted

and and basically unicorn the deal with unicorn

was Amazing how those sweeps and all those other

weren't the exact same character that they were

before but anyway continue They were Skyward,

Thundercracker, and... Thundercracker doesn't

exist anymore. Weird. Starscream doesn't exist

anymore. I will provide you with a new body.

That's what he said. He didn't do that with the

other guys. Yeah, he did. Thundercracker became

Scourge, and Skyward became... They are characterized

differently, but not Galvatron. At least in the

movie, he's pretty much acting the same way.

Now it's not to say those other characters didn't

have the same memories, but they're like, hey,

I get it I get a new start Why not change right

because we don't know that for sure. I Mean,

I'm not gonna argue about the other secondary

characters because I have fun because it's the

same damn thing Oh boy, so wow, this is a really

short episode You know, we could also take the

time to look at maybe flaws in the tournament

bracket Well, we could do that in the next one

technically because then we'll have the actual

outcome. Yeah. Yeah, that'll be done in the wrap

-up Next time around but it's like yeah, I mean

The only way Megatron somehow loses his battles

if his ego is in the way and he doesn't take

that the winning shot I would say even if he

does crank up his ego all the way he could he

could do the Hulk Hogan leg drop on Skeletor

and he'd still win All he has to do is do the

final thing that he needs to do to defeat Skeletor.

As long as he doesn't hesitate on that part,

he's good. It's gonna be really interesting to

see how the voting goes because I know there

are a ton of Masters fans out there. I know there

are a ton of Transformers fans out there, so...

We do need to go around the horn and cast our

final votes. Megatron. Megatron. Hasbro versus

Mattel. I'm going with Hasbro, Megatron. I'm

going Megatron. And I'm going Megatron as well.

Alrighty then, so I think that's gonna, are we

closing this out I guess? Because there's not

really that much else to talk about. Megatron

wins only by default that he made it this far.

If Skeletor wins it's a fluke, honestly. If Skeletor

wins Cartmars though has a lot of fans. That's

right. There you go count more so good old count

mazo Alright, so that's gonna do it for this

episode of GCR wars 80s cartoon villain tournament

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