Healthcare Reform and Government Overreach

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start out with a quote in the words of Ronald

Reagan. Government cannot solve the problem.

Government is the problem. How does this relate

to health care issues that are playing us today?

Well And for those that are wondering the the

the topic we'll get into that in just a second

Brian the topic is Health care and dirty government

and the horrors that they've instilled upon us

This show is basically going to be a giant, controversial,

discussion -based show. This is basically our

debate show. This is basically, take the ranting

out of, well, I don't know, but the way I would

equate it is take the ranting out of Headshot,

and you get this. Yeah, basically, constructive

discussions. Civilized conversation. Yes. So

anyways, yeah, we'll go back to your statement.

Can you repeat the question one more time? In

the words of Ronald Reagan, in this present crisis,

government cannot solve the problem. Government

is the problem. Now, unfortunately, today's progressive

government does not seem to understand why that

quote was instilled upon us. And now, within

the next 10 years of this health care reform

being in place, most of us are going to end up

paying a negative price for it. Yeah, I can see

this definitely hitting home, especially for

people that don't have, at this point in time

anyway, health care involved with their jobs.

Because I know that when I was at that point

working, for instance, just fast food jobs, I

could barely afford to keep my vehicle running

and pay my bills, let alone worry about paying

for extra taxes or extra bullshit to, and yes,

you can swear in this, extra bullshit into paying

healthcare. I can understand that everybody should

have access to it. At a cheaper affordable price,

but at the same time the government should not

Be running it the the government has taken too

much of a active role in every bit of US government

business and sticking their nose in other country

This as well as Trying to act like this is a

blessing in disguise in terms of Helping us when

I'm sure that there are some things good in this

bill But at the same time there's probably a

lot of crap. We don't even know about hidden

inside of it exactly I'm honestly just here for

a color commentary because I Don't know how I

don't know how this whole new thing would affect

me anyway, but because I get Social Security

and I'm on Medicaid or whatever it is that goes

along with that And I don't like going to the

doctor anyway this really doesn't affect me,

but I am Pretty much totally against anything

that this quote -unquote president is gonna do

Because you know everybody thought George George

W Bush was a bad president. I guarantee Obama's

gonna be ten times worse You've gone from one

extreme to the other yep, and it doesn't know

the truth. I was Okay, Steve Uh, you can go ahead.

I was gonna say, it doesn't help, you know, and

this is probably gonna be a very controversial

show because it's gonna kinda let me vent some

of my frustrations a little bit. It doesn't help

that, oh my god, we now have a black president.

Holy crap. You know, it's like, everybody's like,

oh, well, it's about time that we needed it and

blah blah blah. No, we didn't. And it's not even

so much about that, it's the fact that we need

to change, but I don't quite think this was the

way to go. I mean, yeah, he was something totally

different, which is what everybody was wanting

after the screw -ups created by Bush. But honestly,

I'd gladly go back to the way things were. Yeah.

You know and it's not even the fact that he's

black. It's the fact that he's very very unprofessional

in what he does Apparently my mom was telling

me that You know the first I don't know two or

three lines out of his mouth the other night

were jokes about Tiger Woods What the hell The

president's not supposed to be a comedian No,

and like on the campaign trail, you know, I mean,

I don't think there's anything wrong with this

but It's something that should be kept separate

from the public eye. He's into the March Madness

thing. He was doing this last year in 2008 when

he was running for president. You can show that

it could be cool, but does that really fit in

with being a leader? Oh, I mean, it does, but

it doesn't. I don't know. I think things should

be done a lot differently. And especially in

bringing the healthcare topic, I think that this

should have been something that they gave the

public, the we, the people part, complete knowledge

of and had us actually vote on everything instead

of having the government decide everything for

us. Like here, you can't think for yourselves,

so we're going to do it for you. This isn't the

1700s people. We can read and write, make our

own decisions. We're all educated, well, most

of us, and informed. So at the same time, we

should be able to decide this, not have the government

figure out how they're going to blow our money

for us. Yeah, that's where the controversy begins

now. Throughout the 20th century, we were becoming

more and more educated, but now we're starting

to go backwards as far as education is concerned

because the education system has become so commercialized

by, say, child marketers and pretty much progressive,

for example, the history books. They leave important

things out that pretty much... critical to knowing

it pretty much anything that resembles what's

going on today they don't want anybody to know

that this very thing wrote something similar

happened in history per se when franklin d roosevelt

wasn't with the president you know he tried to

come out what was called the second bill of rights

and um... which also included you know health

care for all cream in this is a nineteen forty

four It's a job for everyone, a home for everyone,

an education for all. All these things would

be nice, but with too many people in the country

to allocate all these resources efficiently,

it's a trade of socialism, actually, if you know

your basic economics, and it's un -American.

Well, I mean on the one hand I do agree with

having you know a health care reform so that

everybody has access to it and at a You know,

hopefully cheap or it will cost considering a

good percentage of people don't have health care

Yeah, but at the same time You shouldn't be penalized

for not taking into the government's version

if you got your own, you know keep it because

you know, it's kind of unbelievable that that

IRS of all agencies is the one in charge of collecting

the fees on this. And while there's really nothing

they can, they already got their hands tied in

the first place with the people who don't even

pay any kind of tax whatsoever. But pretty much

what's going to end up happening is that they're

going to start taking, you know, if they're going

to fine people for not using the government run

healthcare, they're going to start taking out

their income tax returns. And whether the US

citizen likes it or not. And speaking of US citizen,

I also heard somewhere that our illegal immigrants

have been granted amnesty with this bill as well,

and they're covered under it. That's bullshit.

Yeah, that is bullshit. In my opinion, we need

to stop letting so many of these people back

in our country. We need to, you know. hone in,

stop tossing money at other countries. I understand

that Haiti just got hit by a thing, but other

countries should also help pitch in, not just

the United States, which is already trillions

of dollars in debt. This should be something

that, okay, you feel bad, help them a little

bit, but for the most part, we need to stick

to our own country and get it back up and running.

Well, like the isolationism from World War II

era. The only reason we joined in the war was

because they bought shit out of Pearl Harbor.

Otherwise, we were an isolationism country. We

stayed the hell out of everybody else's. And

for the most part, our country did fine with

the exception of the stock market. Yeah. Have

we even withdrawn troops from overseas? No, that's

the first that's the first fucking thing that

needs to be done going back to what you said

Steve You know we need to focus more on our own

country. You know I I can understand about helping

out like when natural disasters happen like And

all that we need to get the fucking troops out

of that whole situation over there Let those

countries deal with their own shit, and we need

to focus more on this This is why we have church

groups, humanitarians, and individuals who want

to give out and help out. That's why they're

here. It's not the government's job to do this.

It's not the government's job to play helper.

You can't help anybody else unless you help yourself

first. Yeah, you have to be on a strong ground

to actually be able to do anything. this health

care reform, I could think even like going back

as far as everything Obama's done so far, you

know, the tax rebates, the cars for clunkers,

this, you know, bailing out all these companies

and especially these banks that are still, by

the way, giving bonuses to their people. We could

have been using this to create brand new jobs,

which would in turn, instead of just handing

us a little chump change, they could be helping

people that are unemployed or living off the

system actually get off their ass and get a job

and pump their money back in the system so that

it would actually keep the economy sustained

instead of keeping in this downward spiral which

we're currently in. Well, yeah, well we you know

we have we're we've got a lazy generation that's

been brought up You know the me me me generation

and keep pretty much people are being trained

on how to live off the system so they don't have

to work for a damn thing and That's one thing

that are pretty much You know pisses us all off

because we're here working our ass off and they're

just sitting enjoying our tax dollars Yeah You

know, it's one of those things where Like if

somebody wants to legally come into this country,

that's more than fine But illegal immigrants

they need to be kicked the hell out and not offered

health care for Christ's sake If they want in

America, they should be able to go and do it

legally is you know is there doesn't take much

effort well and stop handing out these damn visas

and Make people actually either become a damn

member and pay taxes like everybody else or kick

them the hell out Yep It's just going to be bullshit

because we're handing our money to people that

aren't helping our economy whatsoever. They're

just draining it. Well, yeah, not just the illegals,

but like you said, the people that aren't even

contributing to the system. There's something

I said back in October. I have here, there's

such a sense of entitlement coming from a lazy

generation. And where there is no incentive,

there is no productivity. Where there's no productivity,

There is no money made. Where there is no money

made, there is a desolated nation because the

government goes bankrupt. We are borrowing money

like the British monarchy did in colonial China.

We'll have our own tea parties against us because

they will no longer accept our debts. We are

about to lose our A++ credit rating to China.

And they are starting to turn away from all of

our bonds and pretty much anything else. They

invest in the American dollar and our soil. And

that's who we get all of our debt or debt spending

from. And when they start demanding that money

back, where is it going to come from? Of course,

tax for your pocket. Exactly, that's one of the

things they're trying to do. And one of the things

that's probably going to happen in the health

care, now you guys probably already know that

with the current system in place, the government

programs, you know how like you go to some Like,

you could go to Walgreens, or Meyer Doof. They'll

give restrictions on certain services and medications.

They'll say, you know, this, only so much of

this will be covered, and only so much of that

will be covered. And as you see, progressively,

over time, you lose more and more benefits. Yet,

the premiums either stay the same or go up. It

just becomes another cash cow for the... Pretty

much, it's just another dummy program to set

taxpayer dollars out of them. Well seeing another

thing is I wish that they'd instead of pumping

money into this yeah, everybody could use health

care And for those of us that can't afford it

do have it But at the same time they should be

pumping like for instance We're you know locally

or actually live in well myself and my brother

do Live in Flint, Michigan. So in this area,

it's so bad that They laid off, I think it was

like 40 some police officers in the city so that

it's down to five police officers per shift.

Wow. And the firefighters. We only have two open

out of the five now and then the trash pickup

is every other week now. Not only that, but this

is what happened. Today was the day that the

other firefighters got laid off. There were seven

or eight different, you know, fires this morning.

Ward pretty much and they say that this started

as retaliation by these layoff firefighters And

I don't even think it's that I think it's just

people doing it just in general just to prove

a point Yes, they're you know, they're pissed

because they're losing their job because of bullshit

and that you know They're saying oh, they only

kept their jobs this long because of the stimulus

package well, I Really don't know what to say

about that but People gotta survive. The more

jobs are cut, the worse the economy's gonna get.

It's a no -brainer. Somebody's gotta have a risk

of some sort. Somebody's gotta take the risk,

but nobody's willing to do it. You know, not

even the banks. I mean, one thing we could've

done, instead of bailing out the banks, we could've,

you know, this could've been only a one -time

thing, obviously, but we could've bailed out

all the people that were in debt. It's like,

hey, use this money to pay off all your debts.

And that way, not only would the consumer have

had not been in debt anymore, they would have

been given the banks their money back that they

were losing. That's killing two birds with one

stone. I don't know why anybody didn't think

of that. Yeah, it just, in general, this whole

thing just stinks. I mean, there's going to come

a point where the government is going to control.

It's going to be basically like the Borg of Star

Trek. Or if you've read George Orwell's 1984,

it's going to be like Big Brother. They're going

to be this big hive mind controlling everything,

and there isn't a damn thing you can do to step

away from it. You had to go with the flow or

you're gone. They'd throw me in the gone section.

Yeah, they probably would, a lot of us. That's

why there's such a big issue over this. I mean,

there's so much, I mean, shit, they're laying

off teachers too. I mean, we can't afford to

keep anything in this country that, you know,

all these other countries are benefiting from

us, you know, I mean. Generation after generation

the intelligence rate as well as the will to

work because of these Systems that the government

has put in place that people get to live off

the system instead of you know, you know Here

we go pop another baby out. Here we go. That's

a sit on her ass and live off wealth welfare

You know, it's it's not like and I'm not saying

everybody abuses it because you know There's

a lot of people that do need it But but but a

lot of people Just mooch off the system because

that's the only way they can survive Instead

of giving people the means to get more, you know

money and pay We're in and to keep jobs and to

keep everything flowing, you know in the circle

of life We're gonna end up in the I don't know

if you've seen the movie Idiocracy. Oh, yes I

Mean the intelligence rate down there and then

we're gonna end up having barcodes in our arms

or microchips just so we can scan like credit

cards and uh... you know uh... health care and

all that other crap which you know if you go

according to the bible and that that's uh...

that's like uh... the anti -christ um... you

know seven year reign right there yes i mean

it just just everything in general is completely

and utterly fucked you know that's one thing

that really pisses me off is the whole welfare

thing You know it's one of those things where

Couples or hell even even single females just

go out have all these babies and get all this

damn money Yet, I'm sitting here poor as hell.

I mean yeah, I can go get a job at McDonald's

or whatever but but still it's like It doesn't

make enough. Yeah, it doesn't make enough at

all. Hell, Social Security isn't even enough.

I've been on Social Security since I was, well,

since I was born, but I mean I just like me,

myself, my young adult self, even though I'm...

fucking thirty now i'm not a young adult anymore

but like i started getting it when i was like

eighteen nineteen when i was gonna start going

to college and it's not enough at all i mean

i you know i'd barely make by every month and

you know i could go get a job to supplement it

but it's still gonna ha it's still gonna hurt

the social security because they take i think

it's for every two dollars i make they make that

they they take a dollar out of that check so

Why why the hell can't I get help as far as financial

not even financially just grants loans whatever

to? For example do this podcasting thing to be

a little bit more professional with it. Yeah,

I've I've probably spent Maybe two hundred dollars

For equipment overall and that's just might that's

just replacing headsets and microphones and all

that stuff that's not getting like sound mixers

and and any of the other crap that we that we

would need for us to sound more professional,

but I mean, they're giving everybody else a damn

handout with all this stuff. Where the hell is

mine? Where's our bailout? Exactly. I mean, for

instance, I'm working a full -time job and a

part -time job. And my wife is working two to

three part -time jobs because we can't make enough

money. I mean she can't even get a full -time

job because it you know there's nothing left.

I mean it does not exist anymore pretty much

No, I mean and you're lucky as hell if you can

find one exactly It's not like what our parents

grew up with you know at 19 they They get out

and go to the shop, and they're making a good

wage Hopefully for the rest of their life at

the time they hope so but That pretty that pretty

much that life is gone We got a bust our ass

now now There's nothing wrong with a good good

hard work that work ethic would be All these

sappers do the same as we are Yeah, well, I mean

and for instance, you know when I mentioned the

the fact that people are just popping out babies

I mean shit look at like octo mom and then and

then you got like cases around going or 18 and

counting well I'm sure they actually make their

ends meet I mean I'm sure they probably do but

I'm saying given an example TV show yeah and

yeah well I mean even they made ends meet I mean

they're not even really an example like like

she that other act like the biggest example of

that yeah well i mean we get that crap around

michigan all the time but i mean if you go to

like wisconsin for instance the more kids you

have the less welfare you get you get you know

x amount of dollars for one they cut in half

for two and three you're done you don't get it

economy than ours yeah well i mean and their

their state is actually booming because they're

able to build businesses and they have a lower

crime rate I mean in in certain areas, of course,

I mean it's gonna be bad everywhere but Just

overall. I mean, it's it's pretty sick to think

about the fact that We're working our ass off

for these people to mooch Yeah Because I mean,

I mean shit. I'd love to sit on my ass and get

paid. Oh Yeah, that'd be nice. I mean, I would

love nothing more than that. But at the other

end of the spectrum, too You got these people

and you know These people in Washington are pretty

much a lot of the rich people who just have either

a lot of inherited or investments that they just

sit on their money and pretty much contribute

absolutely nothing. There's got to be a better

way of doing this whole health care reform and

doing You know just anything to revitalize our

economy in our country Yeah Just overall this

this this whole thing just sucks You know it's

one of those things where You know like we've

been saying You know all yeah, first of all I

can't go with too many details, but I work for

a nonprofit child care facility who also caters

to young adults. And one of our programs is a

six -month program that we basically give them

a free apartment for six months. They're to get

a job and start saving money. everything else

you know it's one of those things where the problem

comes where they have all these friends who don't

go out and get jobs and start mooching off of

them and then they go without you know what they

need because they want to help these people it's

just that whole lifestyle where it's like OK,

I've got this great apartment. I need to start

keeping it. Oh, wait, no. I have this friend.

And then that friend turns into that friend.

And that friend turns into that friend. You have

16, 20 different people living in one one -bedroom

apartment. And it's just ridiculous. It's a domino

effect. Yup. Yeah, I mean, overall, I just, I

don't know. They need to actually consult. the

we the people instead of making so many damn

decisions without us. It was blatantly obvious

there was opposition to that that they should

have reconsidered a lot of things with this bill

and they just kept going on why you guys talk

I'm gonna go look for something that said by

Nancy Pelosi at one time and when I saw it really

pissed the hell out of me about her persistence.

Yeah. I can see something coming up in the future.

I mean, yeah, we go to the drug store and we

get, you know, for instance, pain medicine or,

you know, just any kind of prescription that

or over the counter drug. I can see at some point

with this health care reform that they're going

to require us to, you know, get doctor's notes

for you. I mean, just crazy crap like that. I

can see it. It coming down the pipeline if we

keep this stupid reform And as for the reform

I I hope that I mean while it is a good thing

I Think it would be a good thing to have just

in general Help out buddy Like till recently

I wasn't able to get health insurance, which

I could have used a lot earlier, but I think

that they need to Draw the reins in first work

this out a little bit more and then Bring it

back and actually let the people vote on it once

it's all been settled after they give every freaking

detail of how they're going to blow our money

on it because I know that they're going to start

taxing us for it again this year and at some

point they're going to actually live up to it,

but I'm just hoping that this gets repealed.

I'm going to see if you guys can hear this. I

loaded up on YouTube Nancy Pelosi what she is

willing to do to pass healthcare. Hopefully you

guys can hear this. We go through the gates,

the gates close, we'll go over the fence, the

fence is too high, we'll pole vault in, parachute

in, but we're going to get out there to pass

to the American people for their own personal

health and economic security. What I have to

say to that is, yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah, the

Democrats are just going to pull on it. In the

words of Sylvester, that's a load of fuckatache.

In the words of Steve, that's a load of shit.

I will crush them. Yes. I'm pretty much the younger

generation, you know, we're lucky people, but

a lot of our generation, they grew up brainwashed

because of the whole consumerism, marketing.

They grew up thinking that I want to be rich

when I grow up and with these fantasy false expectations

of what real life is. And unfortunately, some

of them are not willing to realize They're failing

to realize that all they're doing is pulling

off their culture shock. Reality's gonna hit

them in the face one way or another. Anger is

its bliss until reality hits you in the face.

Now I can see where this healthcare reform would

be a good thing. For instance, for people that

are... Very ill or you know, they're and they're

older or if it's a newborn or a child I can see

that I can I can understand that, you know completely

of having them automatically covered but as far

as the working class for them to charge us on

top of it, I just It's not the government's job

to force us and Having healthcare, you know,

it really pisses me off about the whole Good

I was talking to a classmate the other day in

one of my classes and she was talking about,

why don't they do the same thing with car insurance?

I'm like, yeah, but they only make you pay car

insurance if you have a car. Pretty much, if

you're alive, they're gonna charge you for healthcare.

And it's like, shouldn't it be my choice whether

or not I want healthcare? What if I don't want

healthcare? What if I don't want their healthcare?

They're still gonna make me get it one way or

another or pay for it one way or another, even

if I'm not using it. Well, they'll take it out

of your taxes for, you know, regardless. But

I mean, I think if you've already got health

care, they're not going to like double it up

on you and make you, you know, take it out of

your paycheck or whatever. But. It's a privilege.

They say that everybody's got the right to health

care. It's like, no, it's not a right. It's a

privilege. You know, if the government provides

the right, it also means they can take it away.

And. Much it's it's a slippery slope. Let's say

that. Okay, we want everybody in the United States

to have a car But you can only have more than

one car if everybody else can have more than

one car So what does that mean to you if they

pass some law saying that every household can

have a car but You know with socialism everything's

got to be equal if you got two cars in your house

They're gonna make you pick one and they're gonna

take the other home with or they're gonna take

the other one with them to the station and like

if you say everybody's entitled to have a computer

in their house it's like okay what if you have

three of them in your house they're gonna make

sure that you have just as much they don't have

anybody anything more than what the person next

door has so that means if you have excess of

anything you know they aren't going to care they're

going to take it you know until you match the

lowest of the low. Communism anyone? Exactly

and what it should be is it should be tailored

to each individual situation. I think that's

what they're trying to go for, but it's still

too hard to see at this point in time. One of

the things about the child welfare thing you

guys had mentioned earlier, one of the things

that really pisses me off when I read in Reader's

Digest about families with young children or

babies or whatever, kids that are... Anywhere

from you know in you know brand -new newborns

to nine ten years old that say get born with

a condition and the health Insurance or whatever

will not cover them because quote -unquote. It's

a pre -existing condition That is the worst fucking

excuse. I have ever heard of Exactly, they allow

absolutely no deviance whatsoever from what they

define as norms. Well, and there's no accountability

on their end either. Well, of course, they're

the government. Well, yeah, they've elected the

police. I mean, nothing's going to change. People

need to realize that next time they go to the

election booth, It's not gonna matter whether

you elect the R, the D, the red, or the blue.

You have to go outside of the norm of the two

-party system to vote for a third party if you

want anything to change. You have to vote for

the person that's outspoken because the one getting

all the publicity is the one with all the money

and all the special interests. Well, and especially

with, uh, when you get, uh, um... Damn it, I

forgot what I was gonna say, but, um... It would

be nice to see something other than Republican

and Democrat in there that could actually maybe

throw us a curveball and actually change things

and actually listen to the people instead of

saying, yeah, everybody should have this. Everybody

should have that. Everybody should have this.

And here, we're going to blow all this money

on it just because we think that's fair. Well,

we came very close in 1992, 1996 with the Ross

Perot. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, we had a bunch

of independents in this latest election as well.

But I see that number doubling over the next

election anyhow. You know what? I don't know.

Honestly, as far as politics goes, I mean, we

can talk about health care. And in just general

government stuff all we want but me personally

as far as I feel about politics It doesn't matter

who it doesn't matter where they came from who

they are What nationality what color that they

could be fucking purple aliens from from Pluto

and all politicians are corrupt everybody has

an agenda everybody wants this everybody wants

that and Like I said before I think it just needs

to It needs to be tailored to the situation.

You cannot put a outwardly global thing saying,

this is what we're doing and that's it. If you

don't like it, whatever. Exactly. And as I stated

on Facebook before, Canada anyone? Yeah, it's

like it's time to move Yeah, everything is unfortunately

going to that That that point in time, I mean

there's we're focusing too much on Other countries

and not enough on ourselves and too much on how

to spend this money that we don't actually have

These new little ideas that supposedly will benefit

us when right at this moment The Social Security

is paying out more than what is going in They

stopped it this year there apparently nationwide

there was no There was no cost of living increase

this year the way that the social security system

works with the cost of living is that if the

cost of living goes up the checks go up if it

stays the same the check will stay the same as

the previous year or if it goes down which would

really fucking suck especially for me if it goes

down the check will go down since there was no

cost of living increase this year my check is

the same as it was last year but like I said

before it's still not enough and as far as government

stuff you know Mean I guess you could say I have

a job as far as real life But I really don't

get paid for I get more benefit out of it than

than actual pay I even filed taxes and God knows

how long I have no reason to I don't make any

money outside of Social Security and The good

I mean obviously Social Security is part of the

government So the IRS must know that I have Social

Security and I don't fucking know but it's like

one of those things where It's one of those things

where you know, I got The census thing in the

mail the other day Big bold letters on it says

you must fill this out is required by law. Fuck

you That's what I say. Fuck you Because I know

people that haven't filled it out I've never

seen one You won't get one. You don't live on

your own It's to the head of household. Yeah

So you won't get one until you move out. This

is the first time I've gotten one and that's

only because I'm on my own and it's 2010, of

course, the tenure mark. So I mean, it's. It'll

be 2020. Yeah, well, but I mean, it's bullshit

that you're being forced to. I mean, I understand

that it's used for funding purposes, but what

the hell does it matter? Send the money where

it's got to go because. We don't have enough

of actual government hired officials. And when

I say officials, I don't mean these bullshit

people that sit in city hall and say, hmm, this

is what we should do as they're sitting there

with a thumb up their ass trying to figure out

what to do next. I mean, shit, this money that

we've given to some of the construction workers.

I've seen them sit outside of my primary job,

which I'm not going to name. I've seen them sit

outside. And they come out, you know, every few

months and they're going to tear up the damn

road because they can't seem to get it right

the first time. They've been out probably eight

times in the last two years to fix this same

plot of land because, of course, they're retarded

and they get paid hourly and then they get overtime.

And by the time we don't actually see them do

anything. So it. It makes me wonder why they

pay these these douchebags all this money and

then we're firing cops You know mentioned that

you have like what five cops in your town or

your province or whatever the hell they're called

over there our Louisville Metro because I live

in Louisville, Kentucky Louisville Metro Police

Department, you know what the average response

time is 40 minutes Good group, you know what

the average one in Flint, Michigan is two hours.

Yeah, pretty much unless you tell me Yeah, it's

the thing unless you tell them something Yeah,

and then I live in I live in Grand Blank, which

is only like, you know 20 minutes from there

and We've got cops all over the damn place yet.

Somehow that city looks pretty damn good except

for I mean the roads which is kind of federally

helped but We have cops all around there's no

No crime out there. There's there's businesses

booming. I mean everything's pretty damn stable

in that city, but when you go to Flint I mean,

it's completely rundown. There's People can't

even afford to buy a damn car anymore. I mean

Or can't afford to buy I mean jack shit and you

got to have credit which Let me see the banks

have fucked everybody's credit. So even if you'd

have good credit You got to jump through extra

loops just to get money. I mean this You know

in 15 years ago You could go to a Ford dealership

and you could look at a Ranger or the F -150

or some sort of Ford truck. And it would be a

reasonable price, like say $10 ,000, $12 ,000,

$15 ,000. You go there now and just the regular

vehicles, not even the custom luxury things,

just a regular Ford pickup truck is like $20

,000, $25 ,000, $30 ,000. That's fucking nuts.

and you trim $10 ,000 off of that once you drive

it off the lot. Just listen. Well, I mean, and

that's a little bit of an understatement, but

I mean, it's like right now, I mean, I work at

one, so I mean, it's a little bit different.

Six months ago, back when they did that cars

for clunkers, cars were freaking cheap. Now because

the government decided to stick their nose in

there I mean, yeah, it was a good thing getting

those vehicles off the road but because they

did that and then they couldn't get their shit

together when they did it because they changed

the The way it was supposed to be filed like

every couple days for the first like week So

and then they're saying would crash constantly

so you couldn't actually accomplish anything

They The cars were much cheaper back then right

now they're ungodly high And I can understand

why that's not doing so hot and then you've got

the recent, you know of course companies like

Toyota which have You know up until recent Had

to fix every single one of their model lines

because of a stupid gas pedal, which I Still

think electrical slash computer programming issue

Which they're trying to use the pedal as a cop

-out But I mean is it just Everybody's willing

to push the blame. Nobody's willing to take you

know acceptance and just say hey Yeah, we fucked

up. How can we make this up? That's just stupid

Any other comments or anything I saw something

on the news when that happened, it's the news,

you don't have to believe it or not, but it mentions

something about some computers that access the

Cash or Conquer's website, there was a little

provision that people failed to read that said

if you log on this website, your computer now

belongs to the government. They just mean the

information you're transmitting belongs to the

government, it doesn't mean the actual computer.

Probably a miscommunication. No, I'm sure they

meant what they said. They just they think that

they're high and mighty when I mean, yes, they

are high and mighty but at the same time they're

sticking their nose too many damn places instead

of just Doing what they need to do and staying

the hell out Yeah, it's just one of those things

where you know, we're not gonna win what we want

to win We're not gonna get what we want to get

we're gonna get what they want to give us and

that sucks Pretty much if I had the resources

the gas the money the job etc. I saved up I'd

be one of those people in DC right now. You know

promoting the tea party I Create my own party

It would be the Predacons I would terrorize their

life No, I'd be I'd be I'd be vengeance in the

night I'd be Batman my god No evil would stand

unturned Yeah You're on a picture I'm joking

of course, but you know what I mean? They need

to scale back Pull everything back home deal

with home first, you know pull all the soldiers

back We need somebody that's gonna do something

Completely different and stay the hell out of

everybody else's countries and go back to the

isolationism Which by the way, nobody decided

to screw with us until after we started doing

that After we started sticking our nose where

it didn't belong, you know, instead of just going

in after somebody screwed us and bomb them, get

it over with, come back, and then stay the hell

away from them and rebuild, no, we sit there

and we have to instigate more shit. Yeah, we

did that in the Soviet Union, even as far back

as Kennedy, and we had the Cold War going on

until the collapse of the Soviet Union, and the

Soviet Union is a perfect example of why socialism

doesn't work also. Yeah, it's just all it was

is a hollow shell. That's what we look like right

now Our nation looks high and mighty, but we're

actually the hollow shell you break the egg Still

well, I mean technically we're on our way to

almost becoming You know second third world country

because we don't actually own jack shit Everything

is made out of the country You know Malaysia

Taiwan China Japan You know Somewhere I mean

it just And on top of it and well shit, Mexico

too, but I mean it's just Nothing is here. It

were a service nation. Nothing is is left Yeah,

a lot of the downhill started also when they

took the gold standard off of our currency, you

know those started with Jonathan and Nixon and

Now I'm all our money is just papers worth nothing

and that's why our inflation rates if you go

back to I forgot what it's called, the CPI, this

consumer price index has changed so much ever

since they took the gold standard off. And it's

like, now we can't even, one, because we don't

own any of our gold anymore. Fort Knox and whatnot

is probably owned by China, Saudi Arabia, anybody

we owe money to. There's no way that we'll be

able to come back from that. Yeah, that sucks.

Yeah, I don't know. This whole thing just stinks.

It's kind of funny how Obama tries to mention

that the healthcare thing works in Canada. Well,

the only reason it works in Canada is because

they only have 10 % of the population that the

United States has. Of course it's going to work.

Even then, their system is not perfect. you know,

die waiting five or six months in a line just

to see a doctor. Well, and some of their health

care is mediocre at best. A lot of people in

Canada across the board of the United States

just to get medical help because they know they're

going to get it. But now. With people that may

or may not actually need to be there and. People

are saying, well, you need to. Build more hospitals.

Well, it's like it's kind of hard to do that

when there's no money to build any Yeah, I just

don't I don't understand why They can't come

up with a solution to things that Are cost -effective

and yet fulfill the need And to tell you the

truth it all starts with jobs. They need to create

new jobs here in the U .S. to kind of scale back

and bring these companies that originally they

drove away back in, give them incentive to come

back and then give them American workers who

can afford to buy the product and make it American.

Yeah. Because along the way we've lost the American

way. It's just everything's gone. Yeah. There's

two things that we can do. Go ahead. No, you

go ahead, Brian. I was just agreeing with Steve.

Well, there's two things that we need to do.

First of all, we need to manufacture something

in this country. And it has to be something tangible.

We have to bring factories and whatnot back here.

So we are actually producing, exporting something

tangible, not only to us, but to other countries.

And second of all, we have all these rules and

regulations that all these factories and companies

have to follow. And each one of those in itself

cost its own amount of money. It's like no wonder

for most for no wonder it's cheaper to produce

outside of our country because you have all these

different regulations like you know the EPA and

all those others that are going to put all these

restrictions on you if you don't follow these

guidelines which a lot of times it's not cheap

to follow those guidelines in the first place.

Because of these regulations it makes no financial

sense to stay here and that's why they're moving.

Comments anyone well, it's one of those you know

You know you're right Brian, but the thing is

now that you said that you mentioned the EPA

the first thing that pops Unfortunately because

I'm a geek the first thing that pops into my

head is grandpa Simpson Going crazy on the church

floor and the next thing you know springfields

in a dome We need to put a giant fucking dome

on the United States of America bio domes for

everyone A special garage door action. What I

want to know is how they manage to keep an atmosphere

in there. I don't know. Christmas at ground zero.

OK, we're kind of getting a little silly here.

Do we have any more serious topic pointers or

whatever that we want to bring up? No, I think

I'm. about spent, unless Brian's got more to

discuss. Well, I don't have very much left, but

we could probably talk about how, pretty much

what our cultures train children to be in the

past, ever since the 80s, I'd have to say. And

going back to the whole commercialism thing and

growing up wanting to be rich, but... What is

it that I see society as a hierarchal pyramid,

pretty much, with the poor at the bottom and

at the base, and the middle class in the middle

and the rich at the very top. And the higher

you go, the less people there are with that amount

of wealth, and also the worse your job security

is and the more dangerous your job is. Yeah.

Yeah. The welfare system is meant to be a temporary

relief when someone can't find a job or work,

you know, like... My girlfriend's dad is a carpenter.

He hasn't had a union job in two years. And that's

pretty much the skill he's got. He just does

the no worker left behind program to continue

going to school. But I only give him just enough

to pay to, you know, he's unemployed by getting

sent him, but he doesn't know for how long, you

know, it's unfair because he's in his late forties.

You know, he can't really find another job or

skill anyways, because a lot of the jobs, they're

age discriminatory. They don't see a future with

someone who's that old already. So they're not

going to invest their time in them. They're not

going to hire them. And that's what's kind of

sad, because again, the geek in me is flashing

to Uncle Ben in Spider -Man 1, where he's looking

through the WAN ads, and it's tech this and computer

that and whatever else. Honestly, I see most

elderly people nowadays when I do attempt to

step outside my apartment, which regrettably

isn't that much anymore because people this day

and age in general are just dumb and have no

common sense. I see most elderly people working

at fast food joints. Yes, as it is, I do too.

Work at a festival area too and two main managers

have been there for over 30 years They both knew

each other and been there since the 70s. Yeah,

the first first and second manager Yeah, see

I couldn't imagine myself being in the same place

I Could if it paid Yeah, then again, we all can't

have jobs at Apple Well see, I'm going to school

to become an accountant. I grew up, you know,

liking numbers and whatnot. And Steve can tell

you this, I used to do his homework when he was

in first grade. I wasn't barely in kindergarten

yet. He'd go over to a friend's house and I'd

do his homework. He'd come back and even my name

would be on it. He'd be pretty mad at me. But...

Thief. I kind of find it ironic that I'm going

into accounting now. A lot of us have our...

The thing is that a lot of accountants and whatnot

are retiring now, and there's been big demand,

but I promise I'm not gonna be able to find a

job in Michigan, for example, because there's

5 ,000 accountant students in Michigan, and there's

only like 1 ,500 jobs. So that means there's

a 70 % chance that I'd have to move out of Michigan

to even find a job. You know what that means.

Work for the government teach him how to finance

or manage their damn money You know what well

it's like pretty much anybody else would tell

me good luck with that Because they're gonna

want their way in their way only and you know

I've got an uncle's been down up and down every

block and if the company offers him more money

he takes he he goes from job to job just climbing

his way up the ladder he's been dropped from

a few uh jobs because you know i agree with this

you know you have to have ethics now in some

instances yeah you make sure that you got fired

from some jobs but he also gives you a track

record and that you mean business it'd give you

a good reputation you know it's like hey this

this person got fired because they did the right

thing you know if we know that this person did

the right thing we can trust them to do their

job You know, that's the kind of people, that's

the kind of worker we need. We need somebody

with a good work ethic and not this me, me, me

mentality. You know, the only reason why I have,

and this is just me personally, the only reason

why I have the whole me, me, me mentality at

this point in time is because, like I said before

a little while ago, everybody else is getting

helped but me. Well, I'll say that I agree with

that. That's that that that that's the reason

why I have the me me me me mentality on it You

know my mom will call me and say oh did you see

this on the news or did you see that on the news?

Or I don't watch the news the news is so depressing

nowadays. I would have much right like I Don't

know I was six seven years old when Reagan was

still in office I could actually sit there as

a seven -year -old and watch Ronald Reagan do

a speech whereas now If I'm watching a news channel,

my brain will explode because I just can't stand

to watch it. I can't anymore either. I've been

watching news since 2003, and the only one I

can actually watch is Fox News. I can't even

watch them. Oh, that's because they like to spout

what they want. Well, it's a lot better. One

I would not be able to stand at all is MSNBC.

That's like the liberals' love affair. Ta -da!

Microsoft! The other thing that's pissing me

off is the whole PC versus Mac. I grew up on

it. I know this is almost completely off the

topic of what we're discussing, but it's like

this whole I'm better. It actually goes back

to class, like what Brian was saying earlier,

the whole class pyramid thing. It's like, oh,

I'm better than you. No, I'm better than you.

It's just sick. You know, if you're a PC person,

you're a PC person. If you're a Mac person, you're

a Mac person. If you're both, fine. I grew up

on Mac. My first computer was an Apple IIGS.

That was the choice I made. I had a choice between

Apple and IBM. And I made the choice of Apple.

I used Apple up until, I don't know, middle school

or whatever, and then I switched to PC, and I've

been PC ever since. I love a lot of the Apple

products, but... And while I think their commercials

are hilarious, I just don't get the whole tech

war of PC versus Mac is just one of those things

where it's a very soft version of the whole class

issue. It's like, who's a better class? Well

no, they each have their own... Yeah, they each

have their own components and they each have

their own strengths and weaknesses. You know,

neither one is better than the other, but anyways.

Basically the government sucks and the healthcare

Horror that this dumbass president has put us

in is just a nightmare that we will never escape

Especially when you know, huh? It's not just

the president either. It's our speaker in a house

as well. It's a team effort I was looking for

that word earlier, bureaucrats. It pretty much

alienates the rest of us. Yeah, you know, it's

one of those things where the sad fact about

the presidency of this country is that it's nothing

but a catch -up game. You know, Obama just got

into office. He will spend his entire four, hopefully

not eight -year term catching up and hopefully

trying to do some good from from Bush's mistakes

and then whenever he's Gone the next president

will do the same thing trying to fix We will

never be ahead of ourselves in this United States

government never I I can equate it to podcasting

I was mentioning to Steve earlier today before

we even started this discussion this morning

One of my shows I have a backlog of episodes,

so I'm ahead of the game This country, as far

as the national debt, as far as the government

itself, will never ever get ahead of itself.

It is going to be nothing but a catch -up game

until the end of time. Which is sad. Yes. Very,

very much. And on that note, I think we're going

to close this show. Because it's getting sad.

Very, very much. Okay, Steve, you can stop now.

Alright. Okay, I recommend our viewers to cheer

our listeners to check out Glenn Beck's radio

and TV show though It's on Fox News channel weekdays

at 5. If you're missing us on again at 2 in the

morning You know this this really gives you something

to think about though You know what this guy

said I get a lot of my information from him and

I've watched many of his shows in the past year

and I recommend getting the whole family to watch

and spread them The 912 project, you know the

group for taking back America and restoring it

to the fundamental roots And that's pretty much

what I have to say here. Yeah. Only thing is,

when they do that, I hope that they abolish this

electoral counts and go with the popular because

the electoral was for back in the day when people

couldn't think for themselves and couldn't read

and write. Exactly. And the officials elected

each other, whereas now that popular vote, which

they enacted around the same time. because that

was originally how things were supposed to be

done was, you know, popular vote. Okay, we'll

make the electoral vote, you know, but now it's

just the electoral vote and a lot of times I'd

rather see it as the popular. Yeah, see, a lot

of it has to do. It's just, you know, it depends

on how the electoral casuals. Let's just say

that, you know, you have, you know, 96 % Republican

and four percent Democrat. If your personally

electoral college board is a Democrat, he's gonna

vote for that four percent. They can do that

whether people know it or not. You can't even

vote those people out of any positions or anything.

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