Video Game Character Tournament Round 2 Recap

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something else. Hello and welcome to GCR and

wars. This is episode 17. This is round two of

our video game character Tournament. I'm of course

TF2 and Mike joining me is Steve Megatron. Hello.

Hello and optimus solo aka solo Mac No, yes,

but I am here It's never gonna die dude. That's

as good as your acne with as much crap as you

give me You're that you're never living solo

Mac down. Yeah, it's kind of like Barney Tron

All right, so we are here to reveal the round

one winners and also Discussed the round one

round two matchups for this tournament the other

hosts that were supposed to join us they They're

getting beat by the the losers of round one.

They they got eaten by Kirby They just haven't

gotten a shot back out yet. Oh, that was Yoshi.

Oh They got tongued and then turned into eggs

So we're still waiting for them to come back

to the living So hopefully they'll be here some

of them next time we record So I guess my whole

sucking and blowing thing with Kirby actually

did come true What I was gonna originally say

was the duck hunt dog ate everybody else I like

where we went with it much better Shut up Jerk

All right, what do we got well for the last two

weeks? We've been discussing around one which

saw 32 classic video game Character icons whatever

you want to call them go up against each other.

Let's not get caught up in the semantics So we

spent the first week talking about all the Nintendo

characters Then we came back the next week talking

about the second half of round one which included

a variety of PlayStation Sega old -school, you

know a center type characters but we did not

reveal any other results so that will be what

we're doing right now as well as getting into

the second round matchups as we try to narrow

our field. So today we go from 32 to 16 and then

we'll discuss basically who we think should be

in the Elite 8. So starting back with the first

battle that we talked about two weeks ago, that

was Mario and Luigi. Steve, how did the people

vote and who came out the victor between Mario

and Luigi? This one was 28 to 4. Mario slam dunked

it. Slam dunkaroonie for Mario. So a pretty big

victory by 24 votes out of the 32. He beat him

by 24. So Mario moves on and Mario was set to

face the winner of Yoshi and Toad. Steve, how

did Yoshi and Toad fare against each other? Yoshi

won 20 to 9. So an even bigger victory 20 to

9 by Yoshi Which means that for our first round

to match up today. We have Mario going against

Yoshi Mike. What do you think I? I don't know

because it's been a lot like I know there have

been multiple versions of Smash Brothers in the

last 10 years but honestly the last version I

played was on the N64 and It just having Mario

go against Yoshi. It's a little bit Strange to

me because they usually were are working together

now if it I mean Obviously, we know popular vote

was not gonna get toed in here But I kind of

would have liked to see Mario versus toed so

Mario can give the beat down on that annoying

little mushroom Um as far as mario versus yoshi,

I don't know man. It's i'm not even sure which

one's the more popular character I mean you think

mario because he's been around longer etc, but

they're both pretty popular So I don't know that

we can necessarily predict this one just based

on saying oh the more popular character is going

to win There's a lot of things to look at. I

mean, obviously mario has You know, we we hashed

out the powers that he has in round one, you

know He has the fireballs. He can turn into the

raccoon tanuki, you know, etc, etc frog suit

Whatever But you kind of got to look to at the

games that they were together In which case Yoshi

was usually pretty reliant on Mario being on

his back and controlling him and navigating him,

etc But we did talk about in round one that Yoshi.

It's a hard It's hard to be Yoshi because you

know if you hit him He just runs around until

somebody else jumps on his back And you can obviously

take a stung out eat you and poop you out as

an egg The only time Yoshi can die at least in

Super Mario World I don't know about Yoshi's

Island Super Mario World to it that games too

weird for me but in the original Super Mario

World game the only time Yoshi can die is if

you're on a level that has a Side scrolling screen

where the screen is moving with you so you can't

go back. You know what I mean? Yeah, he can only

die there or if you You know jump off his back

and you know have him land in a pit. So those

are the only two ways I was gonna say I was gonna

say Mario's best chance might be to jump on Yoshi's

back She's not gonna be be able to do anything

about that Mario can then direct him towards

a cliff and then jump off at the last second

Sending Yoshi to his death But he has to do all

that before Yoshi can eat him. Yeah, Steve. What

do you think? How does this one play out? I think

Mario is going to get his flight power and fly

over him as he gets hit by a mushroom. No. I

think Yoshi's going to lose because of two reasons.

Not only does Mario have all of his different

adaptability blocks that he obtains throughout

the levels, we also have the fact that, well...

Yoshi may be impenetrable for the most part,

unless he gets bumped into, and then he runs

off a cliff by himself, because there's no pilot.

And then the fact that Mario is a fan favorite,

so he's going to destroy Yoshi just for that

reason alone, which is an unfortunate reason.

But I think it's also because you have Human

versus Dino, and Human has Smarter. Yeah, I mean

Yoshi definitely does have that lemming characteristic

So you would think Mario would be able to outsmart

him in a way and get him to basically defeat

himself If I was going for which character I

liked better. I would probably pick Yoshi Although

we did have one commenter You know in the post

for last round mentioned that they could or they

should team up Form an alliance and try to run

the table on the rest of the tournament together

That would be hilarious, but it would never happen.

So that would be interesting. So my my My heart

wants Yoshi to win But I really think not not

just playing the fan favorite or the popular

character But I think Mario should be able to

somehow smart him whether he uses his different

powers whether he flies above whether he jumps

on his back and leads him to his own death or

You know whether he just bumps into him and Yoshi's

runs off on his own. I mean Think the lemon characteristic

comes into play Yoshi could beat anybody in this

tournament if he had the right opportunity But

I think he still has a bunch of weaknesses and

I think Mario takes advantage of that Mike. I

Think that it's one of those things where you

just don't know How people are gonna vote and

you don't know if they've actually listened to

our opinions here on the podcast but uh it's

gonna be interesting to see how far Yoshi makes

it if he beats Mario here because just and I'm

not doing any predictions here I'm just stating

a fact looking at the entire cast of 32 characters

I don't know how any of these other characters

are gonna fight Yoshi I just don't know Think

they're definitely be there would be some intriguing

matchups I mean I think you know Yoshi Donkey

Kong Yoshi Kirby is some of those would be interesting

matchups where they have some of the same strengths,

but I honestly You know a lot of people had the

comments and they see certain people running

away with this one way or the other And I'm not

saying that you can't see that from from a few

people But I think it'd be a mistake to say that

Any of these 32 characters does not have a weakness

because they all have a weakness and they all

can be beaten Think it just depends on who matches

up with who and this one Mario is so used to

controlling Yoshi and being the leader of that

group That I mean he could just play fetch with

Yoshi throw a branch off a cliff and Yoshi would

probably go chase it. Here we go Yeah, exactly.

So, I don't know I'm going with Mario on this

one, even though I would rather have Yoshi win

Yeah, I gotta go with Mario too Alright, so we're

unanimous on that. We'll see how you guys listeners

vote on that one um in the next section of that

bracket we had uh in the first round princess

peach facing off against zelda steve how did

that one work out well zelda crushed peach which

sounds hilarious she crushed the peach uh 20

to 4 so another landslide for zelda 20 to 4 only

four people voting for peach Obviously that match

is the lowest so far with only four people voting

for Luigi in that first battle. And the winner

there, Zelda, would go on to face, and this is

an interesting match up possibly, Zelda would

go on to face the winner between Little Mac from

Punch Out or Link, also from the Zelda franchise.

So who is Zelda facing? Link or Little Mac? Surprisingly,

despite the fact that we tried to build a good

case for this character, Little Mac got stomped

by Link. 21 to 3. And obviously that's not necessarily

surprising. A lot of times it does come to who's

the more popular and obviously there is a landslide

of Zelda fans out there and Link fans. I think

that would be closer than that. I don't think

21 to 3 quite does that justice and Lil Mac now

holds the reign for the fewest votes with 3 here

so far. So that would set up a matchup between

Zelda and Link, Mike. This has got domestic abuse

written all over it. I'm sorry. I'm so used to

them being in a relationship or dating or whatever

Through the cartoon series or any of the games

and it's like it's just so weird To have the

two of them fighting against each other. I almost

wish even though I didn't vote for him I almost

wish little Mac had won That would be that would

be more brutal because then we'd have an actual

boxer beating the crap out of Zelda If he was

successful Is this is this a case could you make

the case that that Zelda and link come head -to

-head, you know facing off against each other

and We see like what Kevin Nash did back in the

NWO days where link just lays his sword down

and takes one for the team Potentially, yeah,

you would think so but would beg to differ. I

mean, I hope he wouldn't do that, but I could

see the chivalry coming out in him just being

like, Zelda, you deserve to go forward. I can't

hit you. See, see, here's the thing. Okay. Yeah,

sure. Link has been in a numerous amounts of

the Zelda games. Obviously he started the original

Zelda game, but I keep and I know I shouldn't

do this, but I keep going back to the animated

series from the 90s. And all I can think of is

Lincoln let Zelda beat him if she'll just give

him a kiss. Just give me a guess. I mean, what

ways does Zelda have to combat against Link other

than trying to just use her mental prowess to,

you know, convince Link or to trick Link through

flirtation? I mean, I don't, Link has a lot of

weapons. He's got a shield, he's got swords,

boomerangs, he's got lots of different things

that he can use. He's a experienced fighter.

Zelda is experienced at getting captured. No,

no, no, no. Zelda is not... Okay, yeah, that's

the premise of the game. Zelda is no peach. Zelda

isn't, you know, this is your princess in, you

know, in another castle. No, no, no. Zelda is

a fighter. Even though in the game she's not,

obviously she's the one you have to save, but

she really can be a fighter and she does use

magic. She's used the boomerangs before. But

I'm not sure how this one's gonna play out. I

just... I'm not sure. And again, because Link

is so chivalrous, I don't think he'll fight her.

Obviously, you know, our tournament here in the

voting will, you know, determine that. But I'm

just thinking of, you know, if I saw this, if

I saw the two of them out in my front lawn right

now, I think you're right. I think Link would,

you know, basically kneel on his sword pretty

much. Steve, you disagree? I think I think in

this scenario, I think Link's going to take it.

I think he'll knock her out mid -transformation.

It could be like a Dark Link, like some type

of thing has come over him and he's no longer

chivalrous and then he's just badass. Yeah, he'll

become Toon Link. It's a different version. That's

his little kid version. It doesn't play fair.

So it knocks her out while she's in mid -transformation

to Sheik. with the shield or the boomerang. It

may be a combination of both, so it's just a...

like that, except, you know, she gets knocked

out. Yeah, I think I would, you know, if they

are actually going to fight, I would be siding

with Link. But I agree that there is that one

case scenario, Mike, where if someone was actually

playing this out to how we kind of want them

to in an actual battlefield scenario or type

of thing, that Link, there is that chance that

he doesn't fight her. So that would be the way,

that would be the best argument for Zelda I think

would be for Link to almost lay down his arms.

But otherwise I think Link takes this one. I

do think that out of all of the round two matchups

we're going to talk about tonight, that this

is going to be the most, the closest one or the

most interesting one to see how many people voted

for which character. Because, you know, no offense

to any of the other characters, These are two

people that eventually fall in love with each

other at some point or another in some part of

the Zelda universe, you know, so it, this is

going to be for me, this is going to be the,

the results that I'm most looking forward to

finding out what, you know, who voted for who,

um, and how the match came out, because I just

don't know. I, I almost don't want to cast a

vote for either one of them because it just,

it's just so wrong. Think the thing I'd be most

interested in would be To see what scenarios

people have and maybe someone's thinking of another

way that Zelda wins this another scenario or

something like that So I'd love people to go

to the website And find the episode post and

go ahead and comment on how these what scenarios

are you guys picturing? What is going through

your mind as you decide who you're voting for

in this matchup particularly and all the matchups,

of course? So that would be the next section

on this bracket. Moving down a little bit further

on the bracket, we had our fifth battle, which

saw Mega Man fight against Viewtiful Joe. How

did the voting go between Mega Man and Viewtiful

Joe, Steve? Not so hot for Viewtiful. He's not

so Viewtiful. No, he kind of ugly. This one got

knocked out of the park again because Mega Man

stole his powers and made him ugly with 21 to

3. Same same numbers as link and lil mac. I don't

know if I would think it would be that much of

a blowout Am I surprised that mega man won? Absolutely.

Not did I vote for mega man? Absolutely 21 to

3 maybe somewhat surprising But I guess when

it comes down to it you got to vote for who you

think's gonna win and I guess nine times out

of ten That's gonna be mega man So that would

bring mega man to face off against the winner

between the sixth battle in round one which was

donkey kong and Fox McCloud, how did that fight

go? Um Donkey Kong kick some ass. I'm just dumbstruck.

It is the closest. He did literally kick some

ass. What was the count? Rocket Raccoon, I mean

Fox McCloud did not win. It was 15 to 10. Only

by five votes. This is the closest we've had

so far, 15 to 10. So it's an actual close one.

This is one of the ones we debated the most on

that episode. So maybe not a surprise that it's

that close. So Donkey Kong comes away with a

five. point win, which then pits Donkey Kong

against Mega Man. Steve, Mega Man, and Donkey

Kong. I mean, Donkey Kong has the same thing

that worked for him against Fox McCloud could

work against Mega Man. He has the brute strength,

the power, the ability to just throw stuff at

you, shoot out of barrels right on rhinos or

dolphins or whatever. But then of course, Mega

Man has a library of weapons to use to shoot

at you. And he's mastered the art of clinging

on to Ladders and balancing on tight spaces.

So how do you see this one go? Mario did it better

Mega Man really couldn't hold on a whole lot

until he became Mega Man X anyway, but In this

instance I'm still gonna have to go Mega Man

only because not not anything against Donkey

Kong because I do enjoy the games as well and

I do enjoy Mega Man but Mega Man has the ability

to steal powers from people but Donkey Kong has

no powers Donkey Kong has no powers, but he just

has crazy, you know brute force I think it depends

on this one where we find our combatants at the

beginning of this matchup If if Donkey Kong is

at a ground level spot and Mega Man is on any

type of platform or ladder I think Donkey Kong

can easily throw a barrel at him shoot out of

a barrel at him or somehow knock him off and

have the advantage But if that's not the case,

then I don't know what kind of defense Donkey

Kong has from a distance when Mega Man's shooting

whatever he is going to be shooting at him. I

mean, let's just assume that he has his regular

X -Buster and then he has his, you know, let's

say that maybe he absorbs something from Beautiful

Joe, like maybe he can draw, you know, a hole

in the ground and Donkey Kong just falls through

when he's stampeding forward or, you know, he

takes the helmet. Even X just has the blaster.

Yeah, I mean he could just knock him right out.

Donkey Kong's got to get this fight to close

range before he's done and Mega Man just has

to connect with enough hits before Donkey Kong

gets to him. And Mega Man is also acrobatic.

Right. So he could just, you know, do a quick

touch flip and go right over him and then blast

him from behind. Now there are, I would think

there's a lot of Donkey Kong fans out there,

but there's a lot of Mega Man fans out there

too. So this is another one where popularity,

I don't know how much it has to play in this

one. But, I don't know, Mike, do you see any

scenario that Donkey Kong can defeat Mega Man

from a distance, or does he have to close it

and make this like a hand -to -hand combat thing?

He has to get in close. At a distance, Mega Man

is gonna just... destroy him instantly the funny

thing is I mentioned a minute ago that Donkey

Kong has no powers and then Steve mentioned the

brute force thing and The first thing I think

of is Oh Donkey Kong is Batman and Superman in

the same character Yeah, I think Mega Man's gonna

take it to Donkey Kong Yeah, if you really want

to come and come down to intelligence over the

characters, all this Mega Man's gotta do is toss

him a bunch of bananas. In some ways, it does

parallel the Mario Yoshi fight. Not completely.

Yoshi and Donkey Kong are completely different

characters in a lot of ways, but it's a similar

situation where you have maybe a smarter, more

agile person going against somebody who has to

rely on dumb luck and brute force type thing.

So I'd be interested to see if those two fights

go the same way and I'd be surprised if we have

like a Yoshi win and then Mega Man win or Mario

win and then Donkey Kong win because that would

be kind of People voting different ways there.

You would think it would either be Mario and

Mega Man or Yoshi and Donkey Kong But we'll have

to wait and see how people vote and then that

takes us to what our seventh battle was in round

one second to last one on that side, which was

Bomberman versus Conquer Steve, how did that

one play out? Again, it was kind of almost a

half -and -half, literally. Bomberman managed

to bomb Conker. I thought him a fake squirrel.

It was a bomb. 16 to 8. Yeah, so you know, another

close one. Only 8 votes separated him, basically.

I think people might be sleeping on Bomberman.

I mean, the guy's got bombs. And he can be sneaky

with them, and he's got a lot of them. So I think,

don't underestimate Bomberman. That would mean

that Bomberman would get to go against the winner

of Pikachu and Kirby. And obviously there's been

a lot of talk about Kirby. Let's see how he actually

did it when it came to voting for first round

Steve. He ate that damn mouse. Kirby over Pikachu

by what count? 13 to 9. Only four votes separating

them. That is the closest of our battles actually.

That is that because of the number of Pokemon

fans out there Possibly I don't know it could

be and I think that that because Pikachu is the

most well -known out of the Pokemon cuz I think

a lot of people Yeah, it seemed like a lot of

people were talking about Kirby and how he's

nods on favorite and he could destroy the whole

tournament He's coming away with the closest

the slimmest margin of victory here in the round

one so far But I guess that either way he still

wins and that puts Kirby against Bomberman and

I don't care what everybody has to say about

Kirby and that he can just uh inhale everybody

and take their powers and whatnot he can't actually

take their let's correct one thing he doesn't

just get to take everybody's power and keep them

unlimited uh that's not his that's not how it

works he doesn't just get to take someone's power

keep it unlimited and just you know go through

everything and eat everybody. And even if he

does eat Bomberman, then what's saying that Bomberman

can't go kamikaze on him and blow both of them

up? That's very true. He could just blow himself

up in Kirby and they both just die. I mean, what

now? Or at least he could get Kirby. I mean,

if Kirby eats everything, I think it would be

pretty easy for Bomberman to convince Kirby to

eat some bombs. Yeah, I know Bomberman is not

the more popular character and I know this will

probably be a landslide vote for Kirby But I

think Bomberman has a lid maybe the best one

of the best shots in this tournament of taking

Kirby out Kirby eats things Bomberman has bombs

like eat a bomb blow up pink kirby nests everywhere

Mike, how do you see this? I'm going that sounds

so wrong Like a marshmallow blew up Oh my god,

that sounds so wrong. I mean, I could be wrong.

I mean, I know a lot of people are going to vote

for Kirby. What do you, how do you see it playing

out, Mike? Um, Kirby versus Bomberman. Kirby

can eat anything, even bombs, and he's not going

to be affected. So I think Kirby's going to take

it. You can't blow up. I don't think so. It's

been a long time since I've played a Kirby game.

So I just, maybe I'm just biased because I want

Kirby to lose someone. Because I disagree with

the whole I just can eat everything and hail

everybody's power and nobody can beat me I'm

like the biggest badass in the world, but that's

just not the case. It's Kurt. He's like a jello

version of Mega Man Steve how do you see this

one going? Unfortunately or fortunately depending

on your scenario I see this going in favor of

Kirby only for the fact that Bomberman yes, he

may be a bomb but Kirby could not only absorb

him but Kirby can fly Kirby can Well, in his

weird sort of air sucking way. And... Oh, Dad,

I don't have field day with that one. He has

his sword that he can unleash when he's coming

down. He can turn into a ton of bricks and land

on top of them, so even if Bomberman exploded,

he would be safe. I saw someone someone did like

certain battles not really like us like a tournament

like this But they were just doing an individual

battle on online somewhere and they had Kirby

going against a boo from Dragon Ball or whatever

I don't remember who he had winning but it seemed

like it was a pretty epic fight because they

both can just keep getting bigger it seems like

So then that's how we have the one side of the

bracket. That's it for that side. So we have

Mario against Yoshi, Zelda against Link, Mega

Man against Donkey Kong, and Bomberman against

Kirby. And I think it just gets very interesting

from here on out. There might be some blowouts,

but I don't think they're obvious blowouts. Well,

let me just say two. that the funniest thing

of all is I called all but one of that side.

Which was the one you didn't call? Donkey Kong

against Fox. I was hoping Fox would take it just

because even in when I play the game, Fox royally

kicks Donkey Kong's ass when I have the computer

playing. That makes sense. Alright, so that means

we can move over to the right side of the bracket

here and battle number nine, the first one on

the right side, we had Sly Cooper Going against

crash bandicoot now. We had a kind of a split

panel when we did this record last week. We had

people At least one person Voting on each side

of this steve. How did it play out? How did sly

and crash do? Well sly and crash played out sly

Was pretty slick Nine to four so another very

close one another five point spread here. So

not not a huge margin, but sly Prevails as I

think most of us predicted. I'm sorry Mike So

that means sly gets Luck of going against the

winner between Rayman and Spyro, how did Spyro

and Rayman end up? Well This is the start of

a massive downfall Spyro Burned his ass with

11 to 2 Dragon power everybody likes the dragons

I guess my my argument failed to try to support

Rayman there even though I'm not really I don't

have anything vested in Rayman I just thought

he had a chance but Spyro I guess prevails which

means it's Spyro against sly Cooper Is it just

people voting dragons the rest of the way or

is sly not just sly enough to go against crash

bandicoot? But also sly enough to slay the dragon

Mike. How do we go? I gotta go Spyro again. How

did I know you were gonna say that? He's Sly

Cooper might be cunning and stealthy and whatever

else but Spyro can just come right at you with

the fire and he can basically fly around your

ass and he can fly circles everywhere. It's just

Spyro hands down. Have you ever battled a raccoon?

No. Is that what Sly is? Yeah. Yes. Okay. Those

things are vicious. They might be vicious, but

again, I think this one this one specifically

falls into what we fell into with Donkey Kong

and Mega Man. I don't think so. I think it does,

because unless Sly can get in there up close,

all Spyro's got to do is fly up above him and

just flame on. There is something to be said,

though, about the smarter, more intelligent,

more cunning opponent, which obviously would

be Sly in this. I don't know. I'd like to tend

to vote with the smarter guy than just the dumb

luck. But Steve, what were you saying? Well,

I was going to say that I think, you know, yeah,

Spyro has the flight and he has the fire, but

Spyro also I could see. Losing to Sly only for

the fact that Sly's cunning. He seems like he's

the kind of character that would wait for the

opportune moment, whereas Spyro is more. cocky

and arrogant and seems more younger whereas as

Sly seems like an older more seasoned and would

kind of wait his turn to attack and catch him

when his guards down. I just see him outsmarting

him. Yeah, I'm kind of siding with you. I mean,

I'm not saying that it's gonna be a landslide

or I think this would be a very... Honestly,

out of all the matchups we've talked about so

far, this is the one I absolutely don't know

how it's gonna play out. I'm not saying I know

how all the other ones are, but I have a feeling

I could, you know, I could kind of guess each

one to see. I don't know who's gonna win this

matchup. I don't know who's gonna get the most

votes. I don't know if they were actually, you

know, I don't even think it matters if you're

voting on popularity and who's just the most

known character, or if you're voting on, you

know, if these two are actually fighting. Either

way, I don't know if there's a clear -cut winner.

I am going to be, out of all the matchups in

this round, this is probably the one I'm going

to be the most interested in seeing how it plays

out. I just don't, I don't see either one of

them having a clear -cut advantage, but I'm kind

of with Steve here. I think the smarter one,

the more cunning one, and the more Don't know

just he looks more like a fighter even though

he's going against a dragon that can breathe

fire. I don't know But that's the thing though.

What what okay? What you'll have to remind me

because I don't remember past yesterday What

what weapons does sly have to fight with? He's

got that big sickle thing that like curved hook

thing. Yeah, and and he's got his brain So he

could just cut off Spyro's wings He just like

scoop him out of the air just like hook him and

I might toss him somewhere I don't know. I mean,

I'm not saying he has the better arsenal. I think

Spyro has the better weapons, but you know most

likely but man sometimes somebody sometimes you

can just get outsmarted and get tricked and his

name sly I think the I Think the only thing that

Like, the only time Spyro would really get fooled

by Sly in general is if he's charging at him

and Sly moves out of the way, because I know

from playing the Spyro games, once you get charging,

it's... Sometimes it is hard to stop. But I think

if it's in a standstill fight, even if Spyro's

flying around, the fire's gonna scorch that raccoon.

I mean... It could be. Everybody's gonna have

raccoon for dinner next week. Well, we'll have

to see what the listeners think you know post

some scenarios Tell us how I try to convince

people to vote one way or the other and give

us the best scenario because I don't know what

it is on this one I'm I would I'm voting for

sly on this but I can see Mike's point with Spyro.

I can see it going either way Moving on down

the bracket on that side. We had our 11th battle

which saw a ratchet and clink Go against toe

jam and Earl. This is well before Steve goes

this is where we had a lot of stuff in the comments

about I don't even understand why some of these

characters are here. They're not iconic characters.

You don't appreciate Toe Jam and Earl being involved

and you have no soul. The opinions of Optimus

Soul do not necessarily reflect the opinions

of the Geocast Radio Network. They should. Steve

how did this one go between Ratchet and Clank

and Toe Jam and Earl? Well Surprisingly ToeJam

and Earl got some votes They got two We said

there's though there's that one person out there

apparently there's two of them There's that one

person that just wants to throw an axe in there

Yep, they lost two to twelve So Ratchet and Clank

commanding win even though there's two jokers

that did vote for ToeJam and Earl which means

Ratchet and Clank gets to go against the winner

of the matchup between Banjo -Kazooie And Jack

and Daxter. How did that one play out, Steve?

Do we even have to answer this one? Want to take

a guess? Our first shutout. Yes. 13 to 0. Jack

and Daxter. When I saw that shutout, I assumed

that it was Toe Jam and Earl. But then I forgot

that it was Banjo and Kazooie that were facing

off against Jack and Daxter. No love for Banjo

-Kazooie. So that means we have probably one

of the best matchups I think in this round As

far as just coolness that they ended up going

against each other We have ratchet and clank

going against Jack and Dax for Mike This is one

of the reasons and I understand why you made

the bracket the way you did But this is one of

the reasons why I would want one of these two

teams on the other side of the bracket so they

can go against each other in the finale or in

the in the semi -finals or something like that

because these two teams are just amazing. They

just are. It's more fun having Nintendo against

Sony to Sega. Yeah, I know, but I'm just saying

that it would have been cool to see these four

characters in the... in the finals. The other

thing you got to think about when you're doing

that is that that could be a dream matchup to

see those two going against each other. But by

putting them each on opposite sides of the bracket,

you would risk them never going against each

other. And instead, we have here in the second

round a matchup between Ratchet and Clank and

Jack and Dexter. So we at least get to talk about

it. Steve, who do you think has the upper hand

on this one? They both had commanding wins in

round one. I'm I like both designs of both characters.

I like both. concepts of them and what they do.

I'm going to go Ratchet and Clank. And no, Mike,

not because David Kaye voices Clank. Liar! It's

because I like robots more in general. And I

think that having the robot companion would be

more of an uplift to Ratchet than having a freaking

weasel. Even though he's sarcastic and he could

probably kick ass too, I think that, yes, you

have the more hardened warriors and then you

have the more techno warriors above that are

more raw, but I still think that they would manage

to come out ahead using technology over brute

force. This this is one where I'm again torn

between my heart and my head here because my

heart wants to vote for Jack and Daxter But my

head's telling me I should probably vote for

ratcheting clank. I'm actually gonna hold off

on voting on this one You know voting is open

for you know a while now Once this airs and I'm

gonna wait and see if someone can convince me

one way or the other on this one Some of them

I'm gonna vote right away But on this one I am

gonna hold off and see if someone in the comments

on the website can convince me to go one way

or the other way because I kind of want to vote

for Jack and Daxter, but I need to hear a good

argument for that. Otherwise, my default vote

will be for Ratchet and Clank. Mike, what do

you think? I've only played one of their each

of their games since they've been out. And I

don't remember, Steve, is Ratchet and Clank,

are they like is one more serious than the other

and one is a goof off or are they both serious

characters or it's kind of they're very even.

As far as personalities like is as far as I can

tell like Ratchet and Clank are I mean, yeah

There's a little bit of sarcasm going through

between the two of them But it's I get the feeling

that they've almost not been added as long as

Jack and Daxter because I remember playing the

Jack and Daxter games and Jack is really really

serious and Daxter is this Well, I mean it's

basically the same thing. I mean their their

sidekicks are their their sarcastic relief right,

but Clank is more like upper crust sarcastic

Yeah, like he he's more like Dexter's lowbrow.

Yeah, there you go. Yeah Dexter is very lowbrow

Dexter is someone that would if if clank had

pants Dexter would de -pants him Dexter would

be like those are your testicles It's just one

of those things where It's just one of the reasons

why I like this battle so much is because you

have four characters that are very similar as

far as a little bit in their personalities, and

I'm just wondering if Daxter's scheming will

outwit Clank's logical approach. Yeah, that's

a good question. Because, I mean, sneaky people

can get a few up on over intelligent people.

Yeah, and if you're sly, you can... Shut the

hell up. Dragon fire, damn it. Dragon fire. Dragon

balls, I'm sorry. No, dragon fire. Moving on

down the bracket on that side here, we get to

our 13th battle, which saw Earthworm Jim face

off against Bubsy. How did this one go, Steve?

Well, I think Earthworm Jim, you know... Not

only pants and de -lived him, but I think that

he you know he left him with one life to live

Only in the world of video games does a worm

beat a cat But earthworm Jim takes it to bubs

II. What was the final count in that one? 12

to 1 12 to 1 more people voted for toe Jim and

Earl than for bubs II And then that will put

earthworm Jim against the winner of gecks And

Sonic. Steve, how much does Sonic look like?

Sonic ran circles around this one. 13 to 1. Yeah,

so we had a 12 to 1 and a 13 to 1. So now we

have Earthworm Jim against Sonic the Hedgehog.

I know that Sonic will blow this one out of the

water because he's the more popular character.

He has a huge following. He's super fast, etc.

Are we selling Earthworm Jim short though? I

mean, he's got the gun, he's got the firepower.

Mike, how do you see this one going? Earthworm

Jim is sneaky in his attacks and stuff like that,

but it's Sonic. Sonic should definitely be faster

than Earthworm. Well, yeah. It's not like he's

just gonna... Suit or no suit? Yeah, I mean,

Earthworm... He's going to have to hit a couple

different shots in a row to make sure Sonic's

rings go out and then hit him again and again.

And I don't know if he's going to be able to

do that with Sonic's speed. Steve, how do you

see Sonic versus Earthworm Jim playing out? I

see Sonic running circles around him, turning

into his spike, you know, the super fast cutting

hedgehog piece that he turns into where he can

just plow through stuff. I see him cutting right

through the suit. Yeah, that would leave Earthworm

Jim in a world of trouble, but we've already

seen the Earthworm take out a cat, so can the

Earthworm take out a hedgehog? He'd have to be

faster than the hedgehog. That's true. And then

moving on down, we have our final two matchups.

Battle 15 saw Pac -Man go against Frogger in

our battle of the classic characters here. So

Pac -Man against Frogger. How'd that play out,

Steve? Did Frogger trick Pac -Man into walking

in front of a semi? No, he got hosed you get

he got ran over by that truck 14 times over Our

second shutout of the first round here pac -man

14 to nothing over Frogger. So apparently I mean,

maybe it shouldn't be a surprise there because

Frogger half the time Doesn't need anybody battling

him. He just kills himself. So Pac -Man victorious,

which means he gets to face off against the winner

between Qbert and dig dug now This is one where

Qbert is probably I mean a lot of people could

make the argument that Qbert was a more popular

character We made the argument that dig dug would

probably take this one where we write it wrong

Steve. Oh Yeah, he took it 13 to 2 so dig dug

over Qbert 13 to 2 which sets up a matchup between

Pac -Man and Dig dug Mike. I wish Neil was here

for this Because we really would need Neil on

this to argue this one. I honestly don't know

I mean dig dug could put that thing in there

blow him up inflate him or Chuck his little thing

at him Pac -Man would have to eat him. I guess

that's Pac -Man's only offense would be to eat

dig dug Dig dug is not super fast. So that might

play into Pac -Man's favor Steve. How do you

see this one plan out? I see Pac -Man Going on

top of dig dug Using his 3d animation against

his 2d animation Yeah, I see I see pac -man Chomping

his way to the top Steve or I mean Mike you agree

or disagree. I Don't know I See, this is one

of the things where they've done already took

out Cue or could he take out another classic

favorite and take out Pac -Man See, that's the

thing. I'm not sure Because they're gonna win

this whole thing. Oh, no Oh hell no, don't even

go there. Oh My so on this side of the bracket

just to recap we have sly going against Spyro

We have Ratchet and Clank going against Jack

and Daxter. We have Earthworm Jim going against

Sonic the Hedgehog, and we have Pac -Man going

against Dig Dug. So those are all your round

two matchups, going back from what we said before

with all the Nintendo side and this side. Seeing

what you have, the one that I'm most intrigued

to see how people vote would be at the Sly and

Spyro matchup. I really don't know how that's

going to go. I'm also interested to see what

kind of arguments or scenarios people can give

us between Ratchet and Clank and Jack and Daxter.

Mike what are you looking forward to most in

that or what's the most lopsided one? We're gonna

have here who's gonna have the the biggest margin

of victory in round two I'm not sure I think

the two that are gonna come the closest are Zelda

and link and the two double teams Ratchet and

Clank and Jack and Daxter. Those are gonna be

the two closest matchups as far as runaways I

think sonic versus earthworm Jim might be the

biggest runaway. Yeah, that might be Yeah, yeah,

I can see that way too. Yeah, but the rest are

all gonna be too close to call Well, this is

when it starts to get interesting to every time

we move to the next round It becomes more hard

to tell and a little bit more interesting to

see how people vote and how things are gonna

actually Shake up to see what kind of matchups

we would get In in the next round in the quarterfinals

Don't know Steve. How do you see this whole thing?

And now that we know all the winners of round

one and we know the matchups of round two How

are you sitting? What do you think about the

tournament so far? I I Think it's gonna get a

lot more interesting now. I think that a lot

of the the Kind of make you know name -calling

to the the tournament and kind of getting mad

at some of the the scenarios are are gonna be

kind of over I think because a lot of the shutouts

have happened a lot of the the ones that we didn't

think were going to make it to the next round

maybe. But I think that now they're gonna start

getting more specialized in their attacks against

each other and it's gonna get more diverse as

it gets closer to the finale. I think also it's

gonna be interesting because now is when we're

gonna get to see are people just gonna strictly

vote for the more popular character. or are they

gonna vote for scenarios and who would actually

have the upper hand in a one -on -one battle?

Because it's obvious that Mario's one of the

most popular characters of all time. That doesn't

mean that Mario couldn't get beat by a certain

select characters throughout this tournament.

Same with everybody else that's been put out

there as a favorite, whether it be Kirby, whether

it be Ratchet and Clank, whether it be whoever.

There's gotta be people within this tournament

that would have the upper hand, but are people

just gonna vote straight favorites and straight

popularity? Or is it gonna come down to well

that person had the wrong matchup So even though

they should on paper win this whole thing They

ran up against the wrong person and they're gonna

be eliminated in this round or in the next round

or whatever Mike Yeah, I mean it's it's really

gonna be interesting Because It's gonna as we

Consistently whittle these rounds down To the

finale it it's gonna be interesting to see who

makes it who doesn't I think people are gonna

get a lot more upset as we go through to see

which characters do and don't make it Yeah, as

people see their favorites go to the wayside

that there definitely will be some backlash,

but that's fine as long as we're getting feedback

That's what makes us fun the discussion the comments

of the debates the scenarios that people post

And what's the best way for people to get involved

in this tournament, Mike? Go to geekcastradio

.com look for G -Seren Wars episode 17 Listen

to the episode then vote state your opinion try

to get other people try to convince us to vote

in other ways and feel free to Talk about this

to your friends, you know put it on your own

Facebook tweet it out try to rally rally support

for whoever you're wanting to vote for and We'll

see how it goes Steve when can people vote? It

will be up on Wednesday 10 a .m. All right, so

get your votes in spread the word and we'll see

what happens and we will be back next week to

discuss the winners of round two and the matchups

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