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Hey, this is Steve Bloom, and you are listening
to the Geekcast Radio Network. You're listening
to Geekcast Radio on geekcastradio .com. Hello
and welcome to a special episode of Geek Cast
Radio as today we begin another of our epic adventures
as we once again attempt to assemble one of our
top 100 lists. In the past you've seen us tackle
the top 100 animated series of all time as well
as the top 100 animated films. And today we begin
the third list in that series as we turn our
attention to the top 100 animated characters
of all time. I am your host for this countdown,
Optimus Solo, and joining me today for this first
segment of reveals are my fellow cinema geeks,
movie rebel Dan. Welcome, sir. How's it going?
Not too bad. Excited to see how this all works
out here. We also have Hard Candy Mandy. Hello.
Yola. Yola from her. Fridley Sense here as well.
Hey, hey. Also, as we go through these episodes,
we like to bring along a special guest or two
joining us along the way. And today we have from
the Toonami Faithful Podcast, Sketch. How's it
going, sir? Great. Happy to be here. Yeah, happy
to have you. And we'll have a variety of guests
kind of joining us as we work our way through.
So it's good to hear from different voices and
different takes on all this stuff. Before we
get going, Dan, I wanted to quick ask you a question.
Are you excited? Last time we did a Top 100,
we did the Top 100. live action television series
and you knew all the answers. Are you excited
to be back on the side of the mystery? I'm excited
to do all the work. All the math and all that
stuff. I was happy to let you do that this time.
This one is so... It was hard enough to put my
own list together, so I have no idea what we're
going to, especially today's episode where you
get the latter half of it, you know, the bottom
25. It's going to be interesting. It seems like
when we've done these lists in the past, that
first section, the first 25, is kind of a wild
card for sure. We get to definitely see a lot
of variety usually when we've done these. We'll
have to see how it plays out today. To give you
guys a little bit of the groundwork and the rules
as far as how we assembled this list, as we've
done in the past, we've invited a lot of people
to submit lists and kind of help us form our
100 entries. And that was no different this time.
We did invite a bunch of people, a lot of Geekcast
Radio names that you will recognize probably
if you've been a fan of the network over the
years. So we have obviously those of us that
are here on the record. Also from Geekcast Radio,
the founder, Steve Megatron Phillips, provided
a list. Doug Abel from Talking About My Generation
provided a list. provided a list. We had Dan,
your sister who does the board game reviews for
us, Kristen, provided a list. We had Tara Blair,
Rising Star, from original DCAST Radio Time back
in ToonCast days, provided a list. We also had
a combination list submitted, Dan, from your
friends there at Talking in Circles. So they
combined their powers to give us a list. And
then from outside the network, we had a list
submitted from BehindTheVoiceActors .com from
Rai Sankari. We had the Simplistic Reviews guys
combined and submitted a list. We had JD and
Brendan from In Session Film submit a list. Also,
frequent Geekcast Radio host, co -host, and guest
TV's Mr. Neal provided a list, as well as the,
got to be the record commenter on our Facebook
post, Mr. David Baruffi. provided a list as well
i think i hit everybody there so those were the
the guys and gals that helped form this list
and the rules that we gave them were simply to
come up with their top 50 or their top 100 animated
characters and the only criteria we told them
basically was we had eliminated marvel and dc
from this countdown so if you were looking forward
uh when you heard the topic to hear a lot about
superman batman spider -man etc i apologize and
i'm sorry to disappoint you but we will not be
hearing those names because we wanted to save
that for a list all of its own. We figured it
was a rich enough category that it could provide
enough characters for its own top 100 sometime
down the line. So, Dan, that was a decision that
we made. Also, because in past lists, it seems
like the DC Marvel Universe has dominated at
times. Yeah, it was a tough decision when we
went all back and forth with, but ultimately...
We felt like, one, it's challenging for a number
of reasons. Are you getting votes because of
what the character was on the show? Are you getting
votes because of its notoriety just in general?
Which version are people going to be voting for?
Do you say Batman, the animated TV character
from The Batman? So it was complicated. Like
Kevin mentioned, we felt like next year we'll
probably or sometime be able to dedicate a list
solely to those characters. So in order to not
basically talk about the same characters over
and over again and get more variety, we felt
that it was only fair. Right. And, I mean, the
loose rule was kind of that we didn't want anything
that was based or came to popularity mainly from
the comic books. Now, there are probably exceptions
because... In a way, shape, or form, there's
a lot of characters that actually originated
in a comic, even if it was only weeks or months
before a TV show or before a film or stuff like
that. So there are going to be some exceptions
and some gray areas along the way. We also eliminated
all Star Wars characters, mainly for the fact
that a majority of them were probably more so
made famous through the live -action films. Granted,
there's been some great Star Wars animated...
cartoons along the way that could have provided
some characters but again possibility for maybe
something down the line the top 50 countdown
or something of that nature and then we also
had to deal with certain characters that a lot
of people kind of put together in their mind
pairs or duos in the cartoon history so we had
to deal with which characters would count as
a duo in which characters were standing alone
and i'm sure some people will have problems with
a decision we made here or there along the way
so hopefully uh hopefully we fell on the side
that Angers the least amount of people but there's
no way we're gonna make everybody happy So there
will be some duos that show up in and you guys
will have to wait to see how that works out I
think outside of that, I don't remember any other
rules. There was no rules as far as time period.
There was no disqualifying anything as far as
the form it goes, as far as Western animation
or anime or things like that. So that was all
fair game. Matt, let's start with you, though.
What kind of criteria did you use? What was your
thought process as you tried to assemble your
list? So I don't know quite what happened to
me as a young child. But somewhere around the
age of 12, I stopped caring about, like, classic
American animation. Like, I was tired of the
Looney Tunes. I was bored of Tom and Jerry. Like,
those things don't get me excited anymore. And
so, like, all my stuff is almost all made within
my lifetime, which is a very short section of
animation. And almost exclusively, like, Cartoon
Network or Hanna -Barbera. I tried to avoid anime
because I figured it'd become a little too complicated
to watch a lot of anime. And I tried to avoid
being like, well, Mickey Mouse has been around
for a hundred years, so Mickey Mouse needs to
be on my list. What if I don't like Mickey? I
didn't put Mickey Mouse, I didn't put a Bugs
Bunny on my list. So my list is probably the
weirdest and least loved list. Whoa. You're already
inviting the haters. No Bugs Bunny? Did not put
him on there. You're inviting the haters. Pick
a ball. I gave it Scooby -Doo. You got Scooby
-Doo list. We'll have to see what else shows
up on Matt's list. Dan, what was the, how did
you try to break this down? Because there are
so many cartoon characters over decades and decades.
This is, man, there's a pool to choose from.
So how did you help narrow it down for yourself?
Yeah, actually it was, I was talking to Dave,
Dave Brathy. We mentioned Bratalyst. to us too
and you mentioned this is really hard to put
together compared to like last year with the
tv shows or previous ones and this is by far
the hardest one i think we've done because of
just the huge variety you could you could easily
do a top 100 simpsons characters you could get
south park characters you know but like there's
so many and you so it's so hard just to pick
and choose which ones you want on it so one thing
i did to try to have my help my own sanity was
Like, okay, who do I really want from South Park?
I'm going to put that on there because I'm not
going to put 10 South Park characters. I'm going
to try to limit different properties. I try to
look at it that way. I did consider overall just
iconography or overall impact on the genre along
with just the quality of the character. So I
did try to get a balance there as much as I could
because there are big characters that people
know and are huge icons in the world of animation.
But as a character, they're kind of... Very one
-dimensional. So how do you... Does that mean
get really high? And I try to just strike a balance,
basically. I kind of... created two categories
and within like overall quality of the character
and overall, you know, impact on the, on the
genre of animation and use that to kind of balance
my list. So again, a lot of math unnecessarily
probably took this a lot more serious than I
needed to. And you know, that's how I kind of
broke it down, but you can not take this too
seriously. Amanda, your first venture into this
project was last time when we did the television
shows itself. What was it like this time? Did
you change your strategy or how did you go about
narrowing down and what made one character stand
out more to you than another? I think last time
I worked my way from the bottom up because it
was so difficult for me to choose what was my
number one. So I was able to work my way from
the bottom up. This time I did the complete opposite.
I'm like, I know which one I'm going for at the
top. So I was able to work my way down. And it's
always difficult to who's 65, who's 80, that
weird area. So that's always a challenge. But
I think that I went the most. into, I don't know,
nostalgia that I ever have. And like, what did
I get out of these characters? What did my child
self get out of this? And did it stick with me,
you know, into adulthood? Is this something that
I, you know, I really hold on to even now. So
I think that it was more about impact on me as
a child. Okay, absolutely. And Sketch, how about
you? What was your thought process as you tried
to assemble your list that you submitted? Oh
boy, I had so many things going. I agree, it
was easier to look at the top 10 and figure that
out and then just kind of work your way down.
But I figured I would be one of the only people
to have more of an international bend on this.
So I tried to include some Japanese characters
that are really iconic, like people know about
them around the world. And admittedly, what I
know... Knowledge -wise of how iconic they are
outside of Japan and America is limited, but
I tried to go with characters that I knew had
a lot of impact around the world. And also tried
to throw in some European characters that I knew
of and stuff like that. You know, I think we
always talk about how sometimes our lists over
at Geekcast Radio are somewhat, obviously, Western
animation. slanted towards and we sometimes don't
give anime the credit that it deserves well not
just sometimes all the time we don't give it
the credit it deserves but uh you bring up european
animation i think that even gets less credit
oh absolutely yeah there was a lot of the animated
films that were you know more uh from european
countries that we just did not give the love
to that i thought they deserved I wish I knew
more about animation outside of the U .S. and
Japan, but there's just not a lot of information,
which is unfortunate. But beyond that, when I
was looking at American cartoons, I was thinking
about the ones that had a lasting impact, the
ones that were truly iconic, very long -term
popular. I would maybe throw in a character that
I really, really loved and thought was a fantastic
character, but I put them towards the bottom
of the list thinking, you know. The archetype
characters that existed before this character
are more important and therefore should be ranked
better. Right. But I didn't want to leave them
out. So narrowing that down got really, really
hard. Like thinking about, oh, which iconic Disney
villains do I want to include? Because there's
so many. And then thinking about which classic
cartoon characters really stood out. Like, there's
the obvious ones, but then there's the less obvious
ones, and I had to debate with myself, is this
a character that really matters, or is it just
an old character that a lot of people know about?
Right. Yeah, it got really hard. And then when
it came to franchises, I definitely tried to
narrow it down to one or two characters maximum,
because there's just so many characters in some
of these franchises. Like, it killed me. but
I was only going to vote for one Ninja Turtle.
It killed me. I love all four of them almost
equally, but I had to just pick one. And along
those lines, there were also characters that
I do not personally like at all, but if I felt
like they were well -known, popular enough, had
enough impact, I was going to put them on the
list. Not putting Johnny Test on my list, I don't
care how long that show lasted. That was for
you, Mike. Yeah, I had something similar to especially
what you were talking about and what Dan was
talking about. I definitely tried to narrow down
like specific shows or franchises to a very select
few and try to help that make that help narrow
my scope. So if I was looking at a certain show,
if I could get it down to one or two, that helped
me eliminate a lot of things. And then also like
what you're talking about with certain archetypes,
whether you're talking about. like a Disney princess
or a Disney villain or, you know, a Hanna -Barbera
character that was similar to other Hanna -Barbera
characters, you know, which ones kind of stood
above the rest of them. So that was definitely
one thing. i used as well overall obviously we
had 15 lists submitted and i forgot to mention
it up front but nobody here knows the results
except for myself so it will be kind of a genuine
reactions as we reveal each one overall the total
number of characters that got a vote we had over
460 characters that got at least one vote So
that just kind of tells you the size of the pool
of characters that are available out there. And
that's just scratching the surface, but 460 plus
characters getting a boat. Dan, I had a couple
more questions before we get into the actual
countdown. One thing that I'm going to kind of
keep track because I try to get as much information
ready for you guys as possible. But one thing
that I thought it might be interesting is to
see a couple different things here. Number one,
which companies are most well represented as
we make our way? through the countdown dan any
any uh heavy hitters that you're looking at that
might have a shot at dominating the countdown
or do you think it's going to be evenly spread
amongst a plethora of different companies trying
to think it back to our when we did the animation
movie countdown and tv countdown i have a feeling
disney is going to have a pretty strong hold
of the countdown just thinking about the films
that were highly rated on those and knowing that
we are dealing with a lot of the same people
so that would be my initial guess but i could
be wrong probably not though We'll definitely
have to look and see which ones start showing
up more than others. It'll be interesting to
kind of track that as we go. Another thing that
I'll be keeping track of as we make our way through
this is the origin of the characters. And what
I mean by that is both, number one, the year
that the character originated or the decade that
they originated, as well as what form they originated
in. Was it a book? Was it a film? Was it a theatrical
short? Was it a comic strip? What kind of thing,
where did these characters originate? So we're
going to have to look at that as well. Matt,
how about looking at it from another angle? If
you had to guess the ratio or the percentage
out of the 100 characters that are going to be
revealed, what do you think the male -female
split would be? I'm going to guess it's going
to be overwhelmingly male. Probably something
like a 70 % area. I did my list with my wife
verbally while I was driving. She was going through
the things. And overwhelmingly, I was like, why
am I only picking male characters? And I think
that there was an underrepresentation of female
characters, especially if you go back a long
time. Or you'll have your female characters who
are just annoying, bitchy characters. Like a
Miss Piggy is not going to be as popular as a
Kermit, say. Right. Yeah, so we'll have to see
if that holds true, if your suspicions are correct,
if we have a male -dominated list or the females
surprise you. Amanda, one question for you here.
Another way to look at it is good versus evil,
because a lot of characters either come across
or are depicted as the protagonist or the antagonist.
How do you think the split's going to be like
that? Are we going to have a list dominated?
Just by good characters or is there some evil
love out there? I would say it would be predominantly
good guys because everybody likes to feel good.
I would hope that there would be some definite
shows of evil power in this because I think everybody
can like a villain sometimes. All right. Last
question, Sketch, before we get going here. Looking
at what I said before as far as the origins go,
do you have any suspicions as far as which decades
will be best represented? And we're talking about
when the character originated. What time period
do you think supplied us with the most iconic
characters that are going to show up in this
list? Oh, I have a strong feeling. I mean, it
could go two ways. I think it's a strong possibility
it'll be a lot of 60s. and 90s but i think it's
going to be mostly 80s and 90s all right so we'll
have to wait and see if that holds true i know
that definitely played a part when we were talking
about our animated series list and our animated
films based on probably the age of most people
that were submitting lists we'll have to see
if that holds true or if some classic characters
uh can can make a push as to dominate the countdown
so all right without further ado let's get to
the reveals and let's start off with our number
100 selection 100 For number 100, we go to, well,
maybe Sketch had the point there. We're going
to 1980s, specifically 1985. The character originated
for TV, and we're starting with a female. Good
character from Filmation. We're starting off
at number 100 with She -Ra. So She -Ra starts
off the countdown, voiced by Melanie Britt. Obviously
originated in 1985, had three or four different
incarnations over the years. Dan? What do you
think of starting off with She -Ra? I have very
little thought on this, to be honest with you.
You know, I never watched the cartoon. He -Man
was, she was in He -Man, am I wrong? He -Man
and She -Ra are brother and sister. Okay, well,
there you go. Yeah, so I, for whatever reason,
I didn't, I skipped over much of that regarding
my time in the 80s. But, I mean. Happy that we're
getting some female representation already. That's
pretty cool. And though I'm not surprised we're
starting in the 80s, I don't know if this is
a sign of things to come, but I'm a little surprised
you made the list. made that maybe more my ignorant
showing than anything well and another thing
like you said the wild card that is this bottom
or you know this first section of 25 sometimes
it does not take much to get on the list in this
section of the countdown if you had at least
one person ranking it super high and we did have
one person on the panel not on the recording
panel but on the group that submitted list i
had this all the way up at number 13 on their
top 100 so that put a big deal in getting shira
onto the list matt i believe shira was on your
list as well so why do you think she is deserving
to show up here in the top 100 i love shira like
i love uh like not just the character of the
show because it was like like hey we're gonna
make a female he -man a show aimed at a female
audience that's just He -Man. I don't know. I
love the whole show. They got the archer guy
who's not wearing anything but wrestling tights
and a shoulder strap. I love She -Ra. I put her
right next to He -Man on my list, real high.
Yeah. I think those people that are fans of that
universe, definitely She -Ra would place... Fairly
high and definitely a strong female character
from the 80s as far as the action goes, which
we didn't get a lot of. So, Amanda, what are
your thoughts on She -Ra showing up? I don't
have, like, memories of She -Ra. I am too young.
But I'm a little surprised that she's so low,
honestly. I would have thought that she would
be higher based on her popularity. I don't know
if she's as popular nowadays. Younger generations
would know much about her. It might be just a
specific generation that really has the memories
of She -Ra. I don't know. Sketch, do you think
she's deserving or not quite? I think she's deserving.
As far as strong female characters in the 80s
go, excellent choice in She -Ra. I seem to recall
a lot of people actually liking the She -Ra series
more than He -Man. Despite that, He -Man's had
many more incarnations over the years, like the
2002 He -Man show was awesome. So you didn't
really have She -Ra in that, so bummer there.
And I feel like She -Ra's kind of been lost to
time a little bit, but I'm not too surprised
to see her pop up on this list, because like
I said... Y 'all love 80s cartoons. Right. Yeah,
I agree. She does seem like she's got a little
bit lost there throughout time. I think the reason
that some people do enjoy the She -Ra cartoons
better than the He -Man cartoons is because there's
a lot of crossovers in the She -Ra series. So
you do get He -Man appearing a lot. So you kind
of get the dynamic of both worlds in that She
-Ra series. Whereas the He -Man series, you're
kind of stuck in that one world with the same
set of characters for quite an extended time.
Extended universe. Yeah, exactly. All right.
So that's where we start today. Number 100, She
-Ra. Actually, though, she was in a tie for that
100 spot. And that brings up a couple different
things. The first of which is how we break ties
here on the countdown. And the first tiebreaker
rule that I put forth here is if there was a
tie, based on the points, that the first tiebreaker
would be who appeared on more lists. So if one
of the characters appeared on more lists, then
they got the bump. If both characters appeared
on the same number of lists, then it was which
character was ranked the highest. out of all
the lists that they did appear on. So She -Ra
lost out in this tiebreaker to our number 99,
which is also going to probably open up a can
of worms on whether these characters should qualify
or not. It was hard for me to eliminate them
because some of them did appear in an animated
form, but it's also hard for me to eliminate
them because... I don't know if there was ever
going to be an opportunity for us to do a top
100 list, even though there was definitely plenty
of characters to choose from. And our number
99 is going into the world of Muppets. And that
would be from, I guess, an iconic character,
especially for the younger generations, and that
would be Elmo. originated in one shape in 1972,
but was not named Elmo until 1985. Now, Dan,
was this something we should have outlined before
the lists were submitted, and do you think Muppets
should count for this, even though not all of
them necessarily were animated? I didn't include
Muppets in mine, just because I feel like they're
two different... they're two different things
for the most part. And yeah, there were some
like, obviously you have like Muppet babies or
something like that, uh, that you could argue,
but I, I guess I, I always, I can, I considered
them separate. So I get the idea, like the thought
process of, okay, we're not going to do a top
100 Muppets. So maybe we could one day, I guess.
But, um, so for me, just because I don't, I didn't
really consider them together. I, I excluded
them when I was putting my list together. Elmo
has appeared in 18 different shows or cartoons,
games, movies, etc. Amanda, do you have any problems
with Muppets being included in here, or was that
just a flub by us in the rulemaking process to
not eliminate them off the bat? um i think it
depends i know that myself i had a uh a muppet
but uh it my my placement came because one of
my favorite books as a child was about this character
and so i saw him in a different light on pages
i don't know if he was ever in anything else
like that was animated but because he was you
know drawn in a book that was so close to my
heart, I was able to place it. So I don't think
that Elmo should be disqualified because he has
been in animated situations. He's in a ton of
video games too now for little kids, all kinds
of stuff. So he is essentially an animated character,
even if he isn't his original self. Sketch, maybe
you can speak to this the most because you had
this higher than anybody else on your list. I
did. And the thing about Muppets, I didn't put
too many Muppets on my list. I think I put three
total. And two of them were for Sesame Street.
And I really, I wasn't, it took me a while to
decide, okay, is it Big Bird or is it Elmo? Is
it Big Bird or is it Elmo? I think I was coming
down to the top ten on that one. Initially, I
didn't want to include any Muppets because I
thought that they didn't belong on this list.
But at the same time, I saw that they were in
consideration. And I thought, okay, so if we're
going to include... claymation and we're going
to include other forms of animation then muppets
are kind of an animation and whatever i mean
these are iconic characters and uh yeah so i
decided to look at it just you know everybody
knows elmo come on elmo is arguably the star
of sesame street at this point and for many many
years so I thought he was well -deserving of
being way up on the list. If he's not considered
by disqualification, I'm okay with that. But
if we're going to include Muppets, then Elmo
should definitely be on the list. That brings
up a good question, Matt. If Elmo has snuck onto
the list as a Muppet character, what's your expectation
of how many other Muppet characters should we
see? Is that the only one we should see? Should
we see a dozen of them? Or are there only a few
more that might have a chat? Oh, man. Until I
saw it get posted, which one of these two puppets
do you think is better on the pre -countdown?
I didn't even think about adding any puppet characters.
And now it's like a puppet beat She -Ra. I don't
even know what to think anymore. What a world
we live in! She -Ra was the last quarter of my
list. And it's like, I didn't even consider Muppets,
and now it's like Elmo. So probably Big Bird,
maybe Cookie Monster. I'm going to say easily
three or four, if not more. All right. We'll
have to wait and see how many more Muppets appear
on the countdown and what kind of controversy
that stirs up for the listeners. I would love
if Stantler and Waldorf were on this list. I
didn't put them on my list because I didn't think
they should be, but I would crack up if they
made it. It's definitely some iconic characters
in the Muppet world for sure. All right, let's
make our way to the next entry of the countdown.
Coming in only one point ahead of Elmo and Shiro,
we're going to go to a more modern character
here that has not had very many incarnations
and has just recently been kind of introduced
to us. We're going to 2015, a character that
was introduced just last year in film, and that
would be from the Pixar film Inside Out. We're
going with Joy. voiced by Amy Poehler. Our second
female out of our three picks so far. Amanda,
is it too soon to put Joy on a list like this,
or do you think it's worthy? I'm kind of torn,
because Joy was a really great character. You
had to like her. You could really easily associate
with her. I think that she was really good for
kids. Hello, did I wake you? Do you have to play
that? Well, I have to practice, and I don't think
of it as playing so much as hugging. Okay, first
day of school. Very, very exciting. I was up
late last night figuring out a new plan. Here
it is. Fear. I need a list of all the possible
negative outcomes on the first day at a new school.
Way ahead of you there. Does anyone know how
to spell meteor? Disgust. Make sure Riley stands
out today, but also blends in. When I'm through,
Riley will look so good, the other kids will
look at their own outfits and barf. Joy. Yes,
Joy? You'll be in charge of the console, keeping
Riley happy all day long. And may I add, I love
your dress. It's adorable. Oh, this old thing?
Thank you so much. I love the way it curls. Train
of thought. Anger, unload the daydreams. I ordered
extra in case things get slow in class. Might
come in handy if this new school is full of boring,
useless classes, which it probably will be. Oh,
Sadness, I have a super important job just for
you. Really? Mm -hmm. Follow me. What are you
doing? And there. Perfect. This is the Circle
of Sadness. Your job is to make sure that all
the sadness stays inside of it. Not being a parent,
I didn't see how kids were really directly affected
by her, so I can't really... you know speak in
depth on that but i think that it might be a
little too early to put them on here because
we haven't even really had time to fully appreciate
it maybe you know i know that people really really
supported this film and sang praises for it so
i guess i could be wrong because of the maybe
it's quality and not quantity in years so all
right yeah none of us on the on the record today
had joy listed on any of our lists dan in session
film had it in their top 10 is it Worthy of such
a high position? Is number 98 okay, or should
it not be on the countdown at all? I think 98's
a decent spot for Joy. Top 10 seems excessive
to me, but, you know, that's the way it is. I
mean, I did enjoy Inside Out a lot. It was kind
of the return to form for Pixar. As a character,
though, I like Joy, but I don't know. Thinking
of how we mentioned previously when I looked
at shows, even I looked at companies, too, like
Pixar, and if I was going to name my favorite
Pixar characters, I don't know if Joy would be
in the top five, top ten of those. Yeah, because
I like that movie, but I guess, in a way, it
wasn't because of her character, if that makes
sense. She was adorable. Amy Poehler was great,
because she's Amy Poehler, and she's great at
everything she does. But yeah, I think a 98 is
a decent spot for her. I have no issue including
characters that are relatively new, similar to
we had newer TV shows. I think that's fine, so
I don't think that that should impact her. But
for me, she just wasn't as strong as some of
the best characters Pixar has given us. And Sketch,
jumping off of that, if Joy is showing up, does
that mean we're in store for a plethora of Pixar
characters? Or do either of you think that there
was other characters in Inside Out that were
more worthy than Joy? I don't feel like any one
character in Inside Out stood out. If someone
had just said all of the emotions from Inside
Out, I'd be like, yeah, okay. And I feel like,
honestly, I feel like I missed something. I should
have been in my top 50, like just that cast.
But I mean, yeah, I don't know. I like them.
What about your sketch? Do you think there's
going to be a lot more Pixar characters heading
our way? I think there's going to be a decent
amount of Pixar characters because there's a
lot of beloved Pixar characters. I did not expect
anybody from that movie. It's a great movie.
It's very enjoyable. I feel like if you did a
list of the best groups... of characters like
a cast of characters then i would see it maybe
up there because they have great dynamic but
individually joy is a good character but i don't
think she really stands out that much i think
i might sooner give it to sadness or anger that's
that's by definition of that character she's
limited obviously so that's yeah exactly well
we'll have to wait and see if more inside out
characters are heading our way or exactly how
many pixar films are pixar characters we'll get,
and if it will rival what Dan was guessing might
be the frontrunner of Disney, obviously they're
hand -in -hand, but if we make the clarification
which one comes out on top. Alright, moving on
to number 97. I will say that this character
shocked me completely that it is showing up on
our countdown. Maybe you guys will not be as
shocked as I am. We are going to another company.
We've had four different companies so far. Filmation,
Jim Henson's Muppets, we had Pixar, and now we're
going into the world of the WB or Warner Brothers.
for a character that first appeared on television
sets in 1993. Our third female character, and
that would be from, I believe the Animaniacs
was the show that she appeared in, and that is
Slappy Squirrel. Oh! Yes! Now, Slappy Squirrel
made it on the countdown because it appeared
in three different people's top 50, and it's
showing up on our list at number 97 because of...
majority of us did not have it listed at all
sketch you had a reaction there what do you think
of slappy squirrel making it on the countdown
and if she made it squirrel is a fantastic character
i didn't put her on my list because you know
there's lots of really great characters i mean
i grew up in the late 80s, early 90s. And I have
a fondness for those 80s, 90s characters from
that era. And Slappy the Squirrel on Animaniacs,
like the whole cast of Animaniacs is wonderful.
And Slappy the Squirrel is a great character
because she is an interpretation of an old cartoon
character who's like over it and she doesn't
want to deal with things anymore. And she's hilarious.
I love her. Amanda, if you were listing your
top five Animaniacs characters, would Slappy
Squirrel even make that list? You know, honestly,
even though I've seen a ton of Animaniacs, I
don't remember her, so probably not. I think
some Animaniacs did show up on my list, but definitely
not Slappy, so sad to say no. Dan, we've had
four picks, three females so far. What do you
think? Pretty surprising. She ran not too surprising.
Slappy Squirrel. I'm kind of shocked in a way.
I mean, I know we have a lot of huge Animaniacs
fans that put a list together, so maybe I shouldn't
be surprised, but I do think she's a great character.
I didn't consider her, not because she was always
one of my favorite parts of Animaniacs, but like
I mentioned previously, I kind of felt like...
There were more characters that are a bigger
part of that show, but she had some of my favorite
sketches, if you want to call them sketches,
like the one where they're at Woodstock. That's
still one of the all -time favorite moments for
me for that show. She was always hilarious. I
forget her little nephew or whatever that would
come along. They were a great pairing. It's very
pleasant surprises here on this list. Yeah, it's
highly ranked as number 13 amongst one of the
list's submitters. Cherstone are definitely a
great voice right there for Slappy Squirrel,
and maybe one that a lot of people didn't think
of, but I guess as you think of her, and if you
were to rewatch the show, maybe a character that
would stand out even higher than you remember.
All right, let's see where we go next. 96. We're
heading to number 96 also. a tie, our second
tie of the countdown so far. This individual
character tied with Slappy Squirrel, but came
out on top because it was on more lists. We're
going to yet another company. We have not had
a company repeated yet. We're also going back
a little bit further in time than we have before.
So we're going to go to the world of Hanna -Barbera
in the year 1968 for this character that originated
on one of the Hanna -Barbera TV shows, a male
character, and our first, I guess, quote -unquote,
bad character, the famously voiced by Paul Winchell
character Dick. Dastardly at number 96. Sketch,
you had him at 46. He's showing up here at 96.
Is it not high enough for Dick Dastardly? No,
I think that's good. I put him high on my list
because I figured in the grand scheme of things,
he would end up towards the bottom as he should.
But he's a great character, like Dastardly and
Mudley. are fantastic villains characters just
that classic twirling mustache bad guy that i
mean he it's he's not boris and natasha but he's
he's up there but we'll stop the rest of them
when we blast the pets you plant the dynamite
muggy and i'll give you the signal what was that
Now! Now what went wrong? He's really a great
villain that you just, you love. He's hilarious.
Matt, we talked about how you expected that maybe
we'd have more good characters than evil characters,
or bad characters, quote -unquote. If we're looking
at just the world of villains, is Dick Dastardly
up at the top of the villain cartoon characters?
No, I think I'm going to have to agree with Sketch
on this one. He's not the Boris and Natasha.
He's not the Skeletor. You said it, and I had
to Google it. Oh, it's that guy, Wacky Races.
Okay. Like, he didn't even come into my mind
when I was, like I said, I was focusing on Hanna
-Barbera. Like, this list is keeping me guessing.
Absolutely. Dan, do you remember much about Dick
Dastardly, and do you think he was deserving
on being on our top 100 and the first bad character?
I do, actually. One reason, too, is because I'm
reading the Wacky Racers comic now for DC, which
is very different than Hanna -Barbera. It's like
Wacky Racers in the Mad Max universe. How do
they handle Dick Dastardly in that? He's more
of an anti -hero, I would say. Interesting. Amanda,
do you even remember Dick Dastardly? I remember
Muttley. But that's because he was black. Right,
exactly. And that was probably our first example,
too, of a duo that we had to consider if they
were separate or if they were a pair. So that
was kind of the first appearance of that in our
account. down so uh interesting that our first
villain big dastardly from the world of hannah
barbara we're gonna go to yet another company
no as we go to number 95 95 i don't know how
many of you will recognize this name but this
character comes from the mind and the creative
genius of art cloaky we're going all the way
back to the 1950s or none other than gumby So
Gumby comes in at number 95, only one point ahead
of Dick Dastardly and Slappy Squirrel. Been around
for a long time. Gumby, Amanda, top 100 worthy?
He is on my list. Can you see? Yes, he was at
number 34 on your list. He was a big part of
my childhood. I watched a lot of Gumby. He always
kind of freaked me out, though, too. I was a
little scared of him. Like, I don't trust you,
Gumby, all the way, because you can morph your
body into all these different shapes. And his
relationship with Pokey, Pokey was such a frickin'
Debbie Downer, but they always came through and
did something pretty cool together and had all
these adventures and went to all these different
worlds. And I thought it was kind of a cool concept
that... There was us, you know, like regular
people. And then there was like Gumby. And you
saw that there was, you know, the two, that it
was very different. And his whole world was based
on imagination. And it was great. It was a lot
more creative than a lot of things that were
directed towards that age group. Now, Sketch,
you're very similar to where Amanda headed at
34. You headed at 27. Are you a little bummed
out that it's appearing already in the list and
it should be higher? Or do you like that he made
the list overall? I like that he made the list.
I think he should be at least in the 80s. But
I'm okay with it. I mean, the thing about Gumby
is he was really iconic for a time, but he hasn't
really been in, like, he doesn't really get noticed
anymore. And that's unfortunate, but, I mean,
what are you going to do? Yeah. I mean, if I
had kids, I would seek out Gumby just to show
them. Oh, absolutely. Freak them out like you
were freaked out. Dan, your buddies, the other
two -thirds of Talking in Circles, had Gumby
in their top 20 at number 20, and you did not
have it on your list. Is there a difference in
opinion between the three of you, or just a character
that didn't quite make the cut? That's a good
question. I guess I just forgot about it when
I was putting my list together, and I probably
should have had Gumby listed. That was more of
an error on my part. There's a lot of characters
out there. It's hard to... Similar to Amanda,
Gumby always kind of freaked me out a little
bit. I don't know, something about it always
seemed off. I would agree. I think it probably
should be higher because he was such a big character
for such a chunk of time, but he has been somewhat
forgotten, so maybe they need a little bit of
a Gumby renaissance. Gumby -sance. Gumby -sance.
It can be voiced by Matthew McConaughey. Oh my
goodness. Oh, I forgot to mention. I forgot to
mention last time with Dick Dastardly, we did
have a couple people that came real close because
Dick Dastardly was in that 96th spot, and Steve
Megatron headed at 93, and behind the voice actors,
Ryerson Card headed at 92, so they were very
close on that one. I actually got pretty close
here with Gumby. He's coming in at the 95th spot,
and I headed at number 97, so just barely sneaked
in, snuck into my list. So Matt, not on your
list, but do you think Gumby's deserving? Actually,
Gumby came up when we were making my list, and
I was like, he's not a cartoon character. But,
like, I don't know. I enjoyed Gumby as a kid.
I don't know that I'd put him on my list, though,
even if I wasn't making the rules that I was
making. Fair enough. All right, moving on to
our number 94 pick. Actually, two people on the
record today had this character in their top
15. 94. So maybe some disappointment out of a
couple of you. Also, our second Hanna -Barbera
character and our second quote -unquote bad character.
From the, originally from the 1960s, we're going
with Breck. Amanda, you had this highest on the
list out of the panel at number 13. So is this
the same Brack that had his own TV show? The
Brack Show? Because that is what I based this
off. I didn't know he went back that far. But
he was on Space Ghost, right? Which also came
from the 60s. Yes. So I like Space Ghost. I liked
Brack the best. He was so freaking weird. He
looked so scary, but he was just so, like, fun
and you could love him. And he was... you know,
not the brightest crayon on the box, but he,
like, lived life, and he did adventures, and
he had a lot of funny things to say. He would
break out in songs, and in, like, the Brack show,
I liked that they kind of brought him more into
the now. I thought it was funny that his parents
were normal and that he was whatever the fuck
he was. I had so much fun with him, and he was
a part of my middle school childhood life. I
was watching late -night cartoons and would see
him on Space Ghost and then on his own show.
There's definitely clips that I will still watch
now. If I had that, I would probably just pop
that in when I was cooking dinner or something.
He's super fun. You know how much you and Matt
disagree on things over the course of our episodes
in Cinema Geeks? Out of the thousands of characters
that you guys had to choose from, Amanda, you
had Brack at 13, Matt had it at 14. So right
in line. Matt, are you disappointed that he's
coming up already or just happy that he made
the list? Definitely happy that he made the list
because I didn't expect to see anyone from my
list. After the first three or four, I was like,
oh, my guys are showing up. She rises that high?
I guess I don't get an opinion here. Just as
a warning, Amanda, be very careful with Brack
Show Season 2. It's very bad. A couple of years
ago, me and my buddies did what we called Brack
Friday. So on Black Friday, we watched all of
Brack Show. It's hard to get through season two.
That's a good idea. Season one, though, was so
fun. Oh, season one was amazing. He was, like,
rapping and stuff. Like, he was treating his
dad, and it was awesome. Yeah, and right now,
every Saturday, me and my friends are getting
together. Like, since C. Martin Crocker just
died as a memoriam, we're watching all of Space
Ghosts from episode one to the end. Space Ghosts
Coast to Coast, you know, the one he was actually
on, not the 60s one. Like, Brack's first appearance
in the Space Ghost Coast to Coast, him and his
little brother Sisto are just clone of Beavis
and Butthead. Like, to the point where I was
like, is that Mike Judge? Like, did they get
Judge to do this? But no, just like Andy Merrill
just doing his best impersonation. I think he's
absolutely deserving on this list. Like you said,
he's in my top 20. Like, love Brack. Dan, like
I said, the second Hanna -Barbera character,
and they were both bad characters. Is Brack more
deserving than Dick Dastardly? I think so, mostly
because the way they were able to take that character
and completely do something different with it.
Like Manda showed, not many people even realized
that he was a character in the 60s. Because,
you know, Space Ghost was a cartoon that was
long forgotten by most people. So they haven't
really done that with the Rocky Racers or anything
like that. So I do think so. And I think most
of the people that voted for it probably are
voting not based upon the original version of
it. the updated version which i actually i i
don't know if i even had him on my list but i
was a huge fan of space coast coast to coast
and he was always a big part of it i actually
never watched the brax show but i always found
him very funny when i was a kid and it scared
me to realize like i was watching that like when
before i was in high school that's how long ago
that show was on so you brought up wacky races
again which made me think that they are actually
supposed to be having a revival of that series
i think it's a netflix original or a netflix
exclusive Kicking around that idea for a while.
Yeah, it's been listed a bunch of times. I don't
know if it's ever going to actually happen. Obviously
not related to Brack necessarily. Sketch, what
are your thoughts on Brack showing up two places
higher than Dick Dastardly? I'm okay with that.
Let's call this the adult swim effect. Some of
these Hanna -Barbera characters got revisioned
dramatically. Like if Brack from the Brack show,
Space Ghost Coast to Coast, Cartoon Planet, if
that Brack didn't exist, Andy Merrill's Brack...
Brack was not going to make this list at all.
No freaking way. He was such a minor villain
in Space Ghost. And Space Ghost is a largely
forgotten show. So I put Space Ghost on my list,
and that's mostly because of Space Ghost Coast
to Coast. And I would very likely see Zorak popping
up here somewhere. But because of Brack in that
interpretation, he's a lovable character. He's
very entertaining. He had multiple appearances,
got his own show spun off, and he's a lot of
fun. So I think it's great that he made the list.
I didn't vote for him myself, but I'm happy that
he made it. I think Zorak is more evil than...
Oh, yeah. We'll wait and see who else from...
Brack's not really evil at all, outside of the
original Space Ghost. Yeah, I guess that's why
I labeled him as... He's just a big kid. Right.
93. All right, for number 93, let's actually
stay in the world of Hanna -Barbera for our third
Hanna -Barbera character so far in the countdown.
I don't know if I would have listed him in my
top 10 Hanna -Barbera characters, but enough
of you guys did. We're talking about the famously
voiced by Don Messick and later on Joe Alasky
character of Droopy. So Droopy comes in at number
93. He's had 18 different shows, movies, or games
or whatever that he showed up in. Sketch, you're
the only one in the panel that had him ranked
on your list. You had him at number 39. What
do you think about Droopy showing up again in
this trio of Hanna -Barbera characters we've
seen so far? Droopy showing up already. Does
not make me so happy. I think Droopy should be
up there a bit more. He's one of those really
iconic Tex Every characters. And Droopy's had
cameos in so many different things. So he's had
quite a lifespan, all things considered. And
he's just a great, fun character that stood the
test of time. Happy landing. probably be right
under that rock. Nope. Under this one. Oh, no!
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, I'm happy that
he made the list at all, but I think he should
be at least, I don't know, maybe the 40s. He
was ranked in the top 10 by TV's Mr. Neal. He
had him the highest at number 9. Dan, do you
think he gets lost in a mix of characters from
that time period, and that's maybe why he didn't
rank a little bit higher? It was hard for me
when it came to Hanna -Barbera because there's
so many freaking Hanna -Barbera characters. So
that could have been part of it too. I remember
like they had a, it was a show in the late, in
the middle 90s and I was a droopy dog and I really
enjoyed that. And oddly when I think of droopy
dog now, I think of John Stewart's impression
of Mitch McConnell. That's like. only thing that
comes to my mind but i'm weird like that but
uh yeah so i think that's kind of the hard part
when you have so many characters and you have
when you say here in hannah barbarian when i
was putting my list together i'm like okay there's
like just looking at the list that's there there's
so many of them so just by process of elimination
i didn't want to have a list of 50 different
Hanna -Barbera characters. So I kind of chose
the top three or top four and then kind of put
the rest to the side. So maybe that's the reason
he's not higher than he is. A lot of people might
have left him below some other Hanna -Barbera
characters and ended up not having room for him.
Dan, you had predicted early on that Disney might
dominate this countdown. So far, we are about
eight picks in or whatever, and we've had three
Hanna -Barbera and zero Disney. Are you questioning
that prediction? no that just makes me think
it's more in the top end like it was with uh
uh with the movies because we were we didn't
have many disney movies to start off with and
then like top 50 on it was like all right here
comes another disney movie i'm guessing that's
what's gonna happen again well well anybody else
thoughts on droopy before we move on to the next
uh second next countdown all right speaking of
disney let's get there for the first time 92
number 92 coming from the wonderful world of
disney originating in a play from 1904 and another
female character so far amanda we'll start with
you on this one number 92 tinkerbell what do
you think i can dig it i think she's one of the
first you know more powerful female side characters
that we we get and i think that she really builds
up like, girl power, and I think that she definitely
is not just a straight, good character. I mean,
we see her do some stuff that's, you know, not
so good fairy -like, and I think that shows the
dynamic of women. Like, we will be your best
friend, but we're also, we can be vicious, too,
so watch out. And I think that she's a fun character,
and it's... Super cool that she doesn't speak,
and she has a different communication style,
and that adds to her character, and I think she's
dynamic, and she's super cute as well, so I can
dig her. You weren't very far off. You know,
it came in at number 92, and you had her ranked
at number 80, so not very far off at all. Behind
the voice actors' rights, and Kari had this in
his top 10 at number 6, he had it the highest,
but Sketch, Tinkerbell was also on your list,
a little bit higher at 55. How do you feel about
her coming in at number 92? I think she should
be higher. I mean, if you think of Tinkerbell,
she was like the mascot of the wonderful world
of Disney for a long, long time. And I did want
to include some female characters that I felt
were really iconic. And the thing about Tinkerbell
is beyond her work as a mascot and also in Peter
Pan, where she's a very... flip it character
maybe not the the best interpretation but she
also has this whole line of direct -to -video
movies now where she is the heroine so that that
brings a whole nother level to the character
and i think those versions in particular i haven't
really seen them but it seems like they're they're
good positive role models and i wanted to highlight
that in my list And on the other side, you have
the Tinkerbell who's kind of a brat and it's
entertaining. So I like characters with multiple
personalities, I guess. There we go. Matt, I
asked Dan the same question last time. Do you
think Tinkerbell got, you know, did not appear
on a lot of lists. Do you think that's another
factor like we were talking about with Hanna
-Barbera where there's so many Disney characters
that maybe people didn't have room for another
one in the form of Tinkerbell? See, I don't know
that that's a thing for Disney. Like, if you
say, like, I don't know if I want to keep putting
on Looney Tunes characters, that's one thing.
But if it's, like, Disney characters, like, they're
so iconic. Every Disney character has, like,
just a massive reach where, like, people that
might not have even seen the movie. Like, I've
never seen Peter Pan. I've seen as much Tinkerbell
in the Peter Pan movie as I have, say, the pirate
fairy. Like, I just... I have a big gap in my
knowledge, but I can recognize Tinkerbell like
that. I think with the Disney characters, they're
all like that. I imagine if anyone had even a
little bit of like of her, she made it on the
list. Our oldest so far, as far as origin goes,
all the way back to 1904. Dan, surprised or not
that Tinkerbell makes the list? I'm actually
more surprised he's a little higher. I think
for me, I didn't have her very high. because
as a character, just thinking of the Disney film
within itself, she wasn't much of a character.
And like Sketch mentioned, yeah, she had a huge
impact. just being the icon that she was. But
I guess, again, when I was talking about ranking
the quality of the character as a whole, as someone
who's not watched the direct -to -DVD animated
Tinkerbell movies because I'm 32 and I don't
want to be put on lists, I don't know her personality
outside of the movie. So I do, though, like,
she certainly has her place. And maybe if we
all clap, she'll get higher. But I don't know.
Excellent, excellent. All right, so Tinkerbell
came in at number 92. 91. Number 91, only one
point higher. Another female character and another
new company heard from as we go to the world
of Laika. And we're talking about the character
that originated in the novel from 2002 and then
very shortly after that, the film. And that would
be none other than Coraline coming in at number
91. Dan, we'll go right back to you. You had
Coraline ranked at 55. Are you upset that she's
not higher or, like I keep saying, just happy
she's on the list? I'm just happy she got invited.
I think this is fine. I do. I love that movie
and love her as a character. You know, coming
from Neil Gaiman's book, and I thought the representation
of her in the movie was pretty spot on. I'm really
surprised how many female characters we're starting
off with. Not that that's a bad thing, but I'm
just, you know, knowing that this is mostly all
guys putting together, that's actually kind of
impressive a little bit. I don't know if impressive
is the right word. Anyways. Progressive? Progressive.
There you go. When you have children. characters
it's that challenge of being inquisitive and
being annoying and she's inquisitive and intriguing
she still feels like a legitimate character in
the way that she's not wise above her years she's
she's got a lot of growth with her and she's
got a very relatable story so that's a big reason
why i had her as high on my list as i did so
yeah top 20 for in session film and uh number
16 for kristin amanda you're a big big fan of
coralline but did not have room for her in your
top 100 so what did you think about this one
i thought i did have her in my list but uh if
i didn't a little sad because i i do uh share
dan's love for coralline she i i think that her
parents make her seem a lot more annoying and
time than she really is and it uh it shows like
the their realization about how much they love
her through the film and how much they kind of
took her for granted. And I think that she is
somebody who is full of questions and wonder
and wants to know. And she definitely went through
something here that was unique. And the story
and the visuals were super amazing. So I think
her and her story are definitely deserving of
being on this list. All right. So a lot of love
for Coraline, which earned her a spot in our
top 100. Moving on to number 90. 90. First off,
I do want to apologize ahead of time. I should
have done this before we started the list. But
as you guys hopefully know if you're listening
to us over at The Cinema Geeks, we are currently
doing a retrospective series. We're going through
all of the films of Hayao Miyazaki. And we're
only about halfway through so far. So I have
not learned all the proper pronunciations from
all the characters from his films. slightly ignorant
to some anime as well. So when I mispronounce
stuff throughout the remainder of the countdown,
just forgive me beforehand. For number 90, we're
going to go into that world from Princess Mononoke.
We're going to, hopefully I say this right, Ashitaka?
Anybody? Close enough. All right, Prince Ashitaka
from the 1997 film. Matt, I'll let you start
because you are on the Cinema Geeks kind of the
Miyazaki expert of us. So what do you think of
Prince Ashitaka coming in at number 90? I think
he's a great choice. Like I said earlier, I kept
anime off, but if I had, he might have made my
list. He's like a great stock fantasy character
where it's like this bad thing happens to him
and he's a prince. Now he's got to go on an adventure
to save his kingdom and his life. as well as
to restore honor to his clan, which is a very
Eastern idea that culminates in this massive,
sprawling, magical story. Great character, great
story arc. This is a perfect choice for a top
100. Thumbs up to whoever put him on their list.
Well, speaking of whoever put him on the list,
In Session Film had him all the way up at number
seven. That's the highest anybody had it. Dan,
you also had on your list at number 33. What
do you think of our first entry as far as the
world of anime goes? Glad we have some, because
I know that's always an issue when it comes to
any animated list, when it comes to Geekcast
Radio, so that's great. It's just funny that
this comes in what we're a couple weeks away
from actually covering this movie. Princess Men
in Okay is my favorite Miyazaki film, and he's
a big reason why. Like Matt mentioned, he's a
great fantasy character. He has a strong story,
and as we're going through all those movies,
you really see those really rich characters that...
have a lot of dimension to him and that's certainly
the case so i i'm happy very happy that he made
the list i would have hoped he was maybe top
50 but you know uh with geek out for radio when
it comes to anime we grade on a curve so i'll
just say this is whatever 20 list you know whatever
he is now at 22 or minus 20 to it and that's
really really where he falls yeah absolutely
All right, moving on to number 89 in another
company that we have not heard from yet. We're
going to go to the world of Amblin Entertainment.
Actually originated in a book, 1981, but more
popularized, obviously, in the film. And we're
talking about the one and only Roger Rabbit.
Also appeared on Seven. list that's the highest
we've had so far appeared on seven of the 15
lists but six of those people had him in the
you know 60 70s 80s that range so that's why
he's not any higher even though he did appear
on seven lists the highest he got was ranked
at number 39 dan you had uh roger rabbit at 77
he's coming in at 89 since we just talked to
you why don't you start here what do you think
of roger rabbit making the list it was hard ranking
roger rabbit because it's something it's one
of those characters where he very much is meant
to be a representation and reflection of other
characters. So it's like, do you, does he count?
Like, do you, how do you rank him as a character?
That's where I struggled. You know, it's like,
do I put him up higher? So I do feel like, you
know, Roger Rabbit is such a landmark animation.
Because of that, he's a ring to put on there.
So I felt, you know, in the 70s was a good spot
for him. But, you know, he... He can be a little
annoying as a character, but that's kind of the
point. But I do think just based upon the impact
of that movie and the characters within it, you
know. And the fact that he landed Jessica Rabbit
somehow, you got to give him props for that.
So yeah, his rankings on the list were 77, 63,
66, 85, 58, 39, and 82. So a little bit of a
range, but a lot of people here in that 60 to
80 range, Amanda, you were one of them at 82
and he came in at 89. So you think that's pretty
spot on? Yeah, I do. Because it's only a few
off mine. And I like to be right. But I agree
with Dan. He's kind of annoying. But he's got
to have mad game if he got Jessica Rabbit. I
don't know what was up with that. But I think
that he had a ton of heart. He was super selfless.
He had the best of intentions for everything
that he did. And I think that he's a really good...
you know solid character matt as far as a little
one -on -one versus matchups and one of them
that we did post was roger rabbit versus jessica
rabbit as far as which one was the better character
if we're seeing roger rabbit on 89 at the 89
spot does that mean that we will not see jessica
rabbit or does that mean we should expect to
see her even higher i guess so part of me wants
to be like she's probably lower um just i mean
because the story it's not her story i mean It
kind of is, but it's not really. But at the same
time, he said these lists are almost all guys.
And she's Jessica Rabbit. So I don't know how
to swing this one. I think if I put him on my
list, I probably would have put him above her.
So that's what I'm going to go with. I actually
have a lesbian friend that I went to school with,
and she shared her experience when she first
realized she was gay was when she saw Jessica
Rabbit. I can believe it. So I'm sure. Yeah.
I'm like, yeah, I can see that. I'm pretty sure
she made a man out of a lot of boys. Sketch,
you had Roger at 58. A little upset that he's
not higher? No, not at all. I think particularly
Roger Rabbit is a character that I included more
so because of the movie and how big of a deal
that movie was. As a character himself, he's
a good character. He's an interesting character.
He is kind of a flanderization of various other
characters, all combined into one. But as a singular
character, he's all right. But because of the
movie being that important, I feel like that
brings him up to a certain level, but I wouldn't
have him higher than this. Fair enough. 88. All
right. I haven't mentioned it because I guess
I haven't wanted to point it out. But when we
get to number 88, it's going to be the first
character that's actually been on my list for,
let's see, I'm on a drought here. The last six
characters did not make my list. So we're finally
at one that was on my list. So I'm going to have
somebody to talk about, hopefully, here at number
88. Going back into the world of anime and going
to the character that first appeared in the 1951
manga, we're talking about the classic, maybe
the godfather, I guess, to a lot of Western audiences
as far as anime goes. We're talking about Astro
Boy. from way back when. So Astro Boy coming
in at number 88. Dan, you had him at 66, and
I had him at 67, so we were almost lockstep on
that. What do you think about Astro Boy showing
up on the countdown? He's one I don't honestly
have a huge amount of experience with. I do remember
the recent film that was, I want to say a decade
ago, was really... my major experience with him,
but this is one I ranked solely, honestly, on
reputation, just because I know his place within
animation is pretty astounding. It's expanded
years. I know there's been video games. He's
a huge major character kind of along the lines
of Speed Racer. So because of that and because
of, you know, his impact on the genre, that's
kind of where I ranked him and why I put him
on my list. I think we posted a matchup of Astro
Boy and Speed Racer. Maybe I could be wrong,
but I don't think it got really any comments,
which surprised me. But maybe that's more so
because a lot of people have experience with
the character. And I'm like you, Dan. I mainly
ranked him based on reputation and the fact that
I just thought from an impact standpoint, he
deserved a spot on the list. Sketch, you maybe
know a little bit more about Astro Boy. You had
him all the way up at number 23. What do you
think of Astro Boy showing up on the countdown?
Maybe I look like a poser, but honestly, I don't.
I just know that Tetsuo and Adam is a huge character
around the world. And to this day, it's still
very popular. And it was one of the, I mean,
honestly, like the first big anime hit in America
and other parts of the world. He's a good character.
He's a good archetype. I feel like he's a lot
like Mega Man to make a video game character
comparison. And it's also kind of like a modern,
not a modernization per se, but like a scientific
version of Pinocchio. And he's a good character.
He's an earnest character. He's a lot of fun.
He does all these cool things with all the weapons
that he has. He has guns in his butt. So there's
that. But the most I've seen of Astro Boy is
a little bit of the old shorts. I saw them. They
ran them on Adult Swim for a while because apparently
Mike Lazo, head of Adult Swim, adores Astro Boy.
So they played a whole bunch of that. And the
2000 -something series, that... aired briefly
on Kids WB and Toonami, and I saw some of that,
and it seemed all right, but it was also kind
of not the best dub, so I didn't pay too much
attention to it. But I like the concept a lot,
and the character is enjoyable by himself. I
just think he's really iconic, and therefore
I put him really, really up there on my list.
Amanda, a character that has a lot of history,
have you ever seen anything involving Astro Boy?
I know what he looks like. All right, before
your time, for the most part. 87. Going to number
87 again. My apologies if I'm saying this wrong.
Tetsuo from Akira. Correct pronunciation of...
Tetsuo! Canada! So from the character that originated
in the 1982 manga, another anime character, Dan,
you had him ranked fairly high on your list,
right around the midway point. What do you think
of him showing up here at number 87? Is this
a first for Animated Countdown with Geekcast
Radio? Two anime characters back -to -back? And
three out of the last four. I know, wow, that's
pretty cool. I remember when it came out, or
at least when it was big, growing up as a kid
in the 80s and 90s, when the only way you could
get it was if you called the 800 number or whatever,
or got a pirated copy. So that's a big reason
why I carry it all to place with me. You want
to call it an 800 number or a 900 number? Because
that's confusing. What are you doing here? Why
would you call it an 800 number for a TV show?
You'd have to call it and order it and stuff
like that. Like, you couldn't just, like, you
know. Commercials on TV. Check out this amazing
animation from Japan. Oh, it was like a mail
order thing? Like, you had to, like, get it in
the mail? Yeah. It's for those of us that live
before the internet. Yeah, you kind of just download
things. It was weird. But anyways, I do feel
like Kara's often the first anime film when people
talk about anime that are... made me have a general
knowledge of it. They're like, oh, you mean like
Akira. And because of that, I felt like he had
a place on my list. And I don't know as a character
if he's super strong, but I do enjoy that movie
a great deal. So similar to Roger Rabbit in the
way of ranking him because of the impact of the
film, it was the same mindset here. A lot of
love from the movie podcast submitters because
In Session Film had him at number 12 and the
first time we're mentioning simplistic reviews
since the introduction. Had them all the way
up at number two. That is, I think, the highest
we've seen show up so far. So had them all the
way to number two. And Simplistic Reviews is
probably not listening anymore because we've
only had two people that have shown up on their
list so far with Brock and Dick Dastardly. So
Akira character showing up all the way up at
number two on their list. Matt, I know you like
a lot of anime, but you disqualified them. If
you were including them, how high would this
character land on your list? Oh, I have a...
I don't know. I feel like I have a sordid history
with Akira. It was one of the very first things
that really cemented anime in my mind. It was
this and Princess Mononoke. I saw them in late
middle school, and then I was like, this is probably
when I stopped caring about Looney Tunes. It
was like, what is America doing? Why are we even
trying? Because Japan's got us beat. And I love
Akira, but at the same time, I haven't seen it
in 15 years. I'd put someone on my list from
it if I was doing anime just because of the reverence,
but I can't really point to one of the two really
big characters and be like, this one's more important
or this one's more entertaining. Gotcha. All
right, so like Dan said, the second anime in
a row and the third and the last four picks.
We'll have to see if that trend continues or
not. I just want to chime in here. I don't think
Tetsuo is worthy of this list at all. I don't
think he's a good enough character. Why do you
say that? He's just kind of a whiny brat. Really?
The movie itself is stunningly animated. Definitely
a classic. Anybody who loves animation should
see Akira. But Tetsuo is a character. He's like
an annoying brat. He gets superpowers. He's overwhelmed
by them. And then he's not that good a character.
I don't like him. Maybe it's personal bias that
I just don't like the guy. But, yeah, if he's
on this list, I think he should be more in the
90s. But whatever. I think I'm actually going
to have to agree with him because I couldn't
remember whether he was the antagonist or protagonist.
Well, Kaneda's not that good either. Okay. I
feel like if Sketch saw my list, he'd be very
upset, especially my top ten. Here's why I like
Kaneda, because he was voiced by Cam Clark in
that one dub. Nice. All right, so some dissenting
opinions here on the Akira character showing
up. So definitely listeners will have to chime
in and let us know what you guys think of that
appearance or not. As we move on to number 86,
we're going to have a couple of bursts here.
First time we had a character that originated
in the 70s, 1973. First time we had a character
that originated on a comic strip. And the first
time we've seen a character from the... company
regardless of which version you go to either
ruby spheres or deke entertainment for number
86 we're going to heathcliff the lovable cat
amanda we had a match up on the on the facebook
page heathcliff versus garfield where do you
sit on that debate and is heathcliff worthy of
being on our list here at number 86 i think heathcliff
can be here if garfield is much higher which
i'm thinking he probably is although i think
that maybe we should have done this the matchup
and forced either one out like i think that they're
pretty similar but i think garfield definitely
ranks above heathcliff um it's kind of similar
personalities i remember a lot more garfield
than i do heathcliff but i think that Heathcliff
is kind of like quintessential 80s kind of vibe,
even though he came out in the 70s, right? 1973,
as far as the comic strip goes. I felt like it
was like some 80s stuff. The first cartoon was
more so 1979, 1980, 81, that range. And it was
definitely more, you know, fun and gritty. Like,
dude was on the street. Like, Garfield was just
chilling in his house. You know what I mean?
Like, this dude was... Heathcliff had the street
cred. Yeah, he had the street cred. Anybody else
on that debate between Heathcliff and Garfield,
and if Heathcliff has shown up in 86, should
we expect Garfield to still show up later on
in the countdown? I have a comparison to make.
Heathcliff is like if you mash together Garfield
and Top Cat. Yeah, I think that's a pretty good
comparison there. I always felt like, overall,
Heathcliff was a poor man's Garfield. Literally
a poor man's Garfield. He's out on the street,
right? Some people don't get hand to their lasagna.
They have to dig through the garbage for it,
okay? That's right. But Heathcliff was always
like with the fish bones. Yeah. Now, Heathcliff
and his whole crew just... If you get to bring
the Cadillac cats, then Heathcliff gets some
bonus points. Yeah, that is a better supporting
cast overall, maybe. But, nah, I like Garfield
way more. Heathcliff made it on to number 81
on my list. It comes in at number 86. Dan, obviously
not on a lot of people's lists. They showed up
on six lists overall. Do you think he's worthy
or not? Worthy? I don't know. I guess so. I was
never a Heathcliff fan, personally. Every time
I watched the show as a kid, I just was bored.
I don't know why. It just did not click with
me. I guess I'm like, I'd rather watch Scarfield
because I find him funny. I never found Heathcliff
funny. I guess you could say he's certainly deserving
because he was a pretty prominent character for
such a long time. But as a character, just simply
the quality of it, I was never a fan of it. I'm
indifferent overall. Also forgot to mention that
it's another first. It's the first time that
we have seen a character voiced by the legend
himself, Mel Blanc. I would only expect that
we're going to see a few more along the way.
Oh, that's right. Matt, what do you think about
Heathcliff coming in right now? I want to rep
Heathcliff because I feel like Garfield stole
shit and then got more popular. That might be
true. It's like if you've ever seen the robot
chicken court case of Heathcliff v. Garfield.
I feel like they said it out humorously, but
they said it out pretty well. Heathcliff was
created when Jim Davis was two years old. And
then Jim Davis shows up like, I'm just going
to make a funnier Heathcliff and give him a better
life. And I feel like, no doubt, Garfield's more
popular, more known worldwide, bigger pop culture
influence. But he's just a copycat, if you will.
That's a fair point. He has a fair point. We'll
have to wait and let the debate about Heathcliff
and Garfield rage on, and maybe we'll have to
revisit it if Garfield shows up later on in the
countdown. We'll have to wait and see. Moving
on to number 85. Going back to a female character,
it's been a little bit. And we're also back to
a character, an anime character, Dan, and that
is number 85, Nausicaa. You had Nausicaa rated
the highest at 18. What do you feel like coming
all the way down here at number 85? It's funny
because six months ago, she wouldn't be on my
list, but because doing the retrospective, we
did get a chance to watch Nausicaa, Valley of
the Wind, and I was just really surprised by
how much I really enjoyed that character. And
when we talked about the film, and I won't go
into huge detail here, but just the complications
she was dealing with as a character and all the
different things she had to level where she had
all these different forces trying to kind of...
come together and take over this world. And she,
she, I don't know. It was, I just felt like her
overall plate was really intriguing. And as a
character that she always surprised me. I didn't
recognize you. It's been over a year now. It's
great to see you. Thank you for helping me with
that. You've certainly mastered that glider of
yours. You think so? Father says I have a long
way to go. Oh, yes. I forgot all about this little
fellow. He's the reason I got in trouble with
the Om. Wow. Is that a fox squirrel? I've never
seen one. I hadn't either. I saw an insect carrying
him off and I mistook him for a human baby. I
had no choice but to use my gun. Oh, so that's
why the Om was so angry with you. He's quite
spirited. Apparently he didn't inhale too much
of the jungle's poison. Better not touch him.
Even the babies are vicious. Come on. It's okay.
Careful. There's nothing to fear. Nothing to
fear. See? Nothing to fear. stage for a lot of
characters that were to come so I felt like in
a way ranking her that high was in almost representation
of a lot of the characters Manjugi was creating
because there are elements of her that I think
you can probably put in a lot of his best characters
so because of that I had her in my top 20. I
mean obviously I would prefer if she was higher
but like I said when it comes to anime in these
lists we tend to grade on a curve so I'm happy
that she's at least here. Matt, this is, let's
see, the fourth anime character that's come up
here. We had Ashitaka, Astro Boy, Tetsuo, if
I'm saying any of those right, and now Nausicaa.
How do you feel as far as the ordering of that
goes, and do you think they're all worthy, or
is Nausicaa specifically worthy of being in the
top 100? I've said it probably every time we've
done a movie in the Miyazaki retrospective. I
would rate the lowest Miyazaki movie a 7, and
most of them around the 10 range. You're never
going to hear me complain about a character making
it on this list, even if it's just like, how
about the younger sister from Totoro? They're
all deserving. I could do a top 100 Studio Ghibli
characters list without batting an eye. I just
hope other characters make it higher. That's
my piece on that. Alright, Sketch, you were...
The dissenting opinion first, as far as the last
anime character goes, do you think Nausicaa is
more deserving? Very. I think Nausicaa is a great
character. She's really the archetype for Miyazaki's
heroine characters. As Daniel said, you can see
her personality in many of the other characters
to come after her. And if you look back on Nausicaa
of the Valley of the Wind is a fantastic movie.
I feel like... Miyazaki was really on point with
all of his social commentary in that movie in
particular, and it's kind of gone out of hand
since then. But Nausicaa as a character is a
very strong female character. She fights her
own battles. She's trying to bring together these
two worlds. And it's really, she's admirable
as a character. And there's not that much...
Many really great female anime characters that
I can think of, and Nausicaa's definitely up
there. Amanda, you just recently obviously watched
this for the spotlight as well, but Nausicaa
did not make your list. How close was she? Besides
the fact that she's a really great character
and a strong female lead, super likable, very
skilled, and worthy of the respect that you see
that she gets, I just... I wasn't as impacted
by her as a lot of the other characters on my
list. This was a very nostalgic list for me,
and she just didn't find any room there because
I had so many other picks that I thought were
more deserving based on the impact that they
actually had on my life, whereas I saw this as
an adult and wasn't really impacted. All right.
I mean, I enjoyed the story, and I think that
she was fun, but just wasn't as impactful for
me. Makes sense. All right, next up on the countdown,
number 84, possibly the Sophie's choice of the
countdown, perhaps, as one of you brought up
in the introduction. How do you choose between
four brothers? Well, number 84, we have from
the original 1984 Mirage comic book, Donatello,
which I guess will lead to a lot of questions
amongst the group. How do you go about rating
these guys? Do you rate all four of them? Do
you pick your favorite Amanda? How do you feel
about Donatello? He's not my favorite turtle,
but I definitely dealt with the same kind of
conundrum here. I'm like, I could have all five
of them on here easily, but I did just stick
with my absolute faves. I forced myself to just
pick, and I think I went with, should I even
reveal that yet? I think with Michelangelo and
Raphael. I was Raphael like three times for Halloween
when I was little, so I had to put him on there.
But, you know, Donnie, he's a good and solid
choice. You know what I mean? If you're going
to go with a group, I guess go with a leader.
So there you go. Dan, do you think it plays into
their detriment when it comes to a list like
this, that there was four of them that were not
necessarily one ever, might not have ever stood
out above the others as far as the depictions
in the cartoons or the movies? You might have
had your own personal favorite, but does the
fact that there was four of them hurt their chances
more in a countdown like this? I think so, because
it's really just which one you kind of relate
it to most, really. Like, which one? Like, Michelangelo,
you could probably argue, is probably the most
popular, perhaps. But then you go to Leonardo,
who's probably the, you know, the pseudo -leader.
So it's challenging if you vote them together,
I guess. And so that's hard, because they're
so, you know, they're so tied to one another.
And in a way, when we talked about Inside Out
and how Joy, by definition, was a limited character,
it's just kind of the same. type of process with
the turtles or they're meant to not be you know
they're meant to be yes they're their own individual
characters but they're meant to complement one
of them with one another so that kind of makes
it complicated so when i ranked them i just went
with which one i personally had more relation
to what i think was donatello but i don't think
i could argue that he's a better character than
any of the other ones Sketch, you also had Donatello
listed on your ranking. Do you think he's the
most deserving of the Turtles? Should we expect
to see more Turtles if we see Donatello at this
number, or what are your thoughts? I would not
be surprised to see Raphael or Michelangelo show
up. Unfortunately, Leonardo is kind of the weakest
link in most interpretations. He's just kind
of boring. So I don't think we'll see Leonardo,
but I would easily see Mike or Raph pop up. I
almost had one or both of them on my list too.
I decided to go with Donatello. For one thing,
to fill a niche, I didn't really have a geek
character except for Donatello. And there are
certainly some other arguably more iconic geek
characters, but as far as a well -rounded character
who is also iconic, very popular, has had many
interpretations, I think Donatello is like the
quintessential geek superhero character in a
lot of ways. That's a good point. I really like
every interpretation of Donatello. I do not,
in fact, like every interpretation of all the
Turtles. I think in the 2003 series, Leonardo
was really strong. I like Leonardo in the 2012
series maybe the most of all versions of Leonardo
because he's also kind of a nerd, and that's
a good addition to his character. Michelangelo
is a bit insufferable in the 2003 cartoon because
he's the comic relief and they kind of just thrust
everything onto him to break the tension. Raphael's
good in pretty much everything and Donatello
even more so. So I feel like no matter what interpretation
of Ninja Turtles you have, Donatello is great.
In the 2007 animated movie, I wish there was
more Donatello because that kind of snarky, over
it interpretation of Donatello where it's like,
I can't believe I have to deal with this crap
still is a great version of Donatello. And I
feel like the 2012 version of Donatello is a
lot like that, but maybe a little bit more toned
down. But a sarcastic kind of high strung Donatello
is even better than a really smart nerdy one.
I think overall every version of Donatello is
great, but Donatello among the Turtles, if I
had to only pick one, even though Michelangelo
for many years was by far my favorite Turtle,
plus if we're going to throw video games into
this, you're always Donatello in the video games.
Come on. Everybody's Donatello. Matt, he brings
up a good point about Donatello being a geek
character, and this is obviously a geek cast
radio network. Does that make sense that he is
the turtle that's showing up, or should we expect
a couple more? I mean, it's an interesting thought
where he said he didn't have enough geek representation.
I guess, like, I didn't think about that. Everyone
approaches these lists differently. And hearing
so many people say that Raphael and Michelangelo
are hyper -popular is weird, because those two
I would rate really low in my Turtles experience.
So Donatello would be my one or two, and him
showing up now, to me, is like, well, are they
really going to put Leonardo above Donatello?
If no other Turtles... showed up, I wouldn't
be surprised. But if another turtle showed up,
I also wouldn't be surprised. If I had put them
on my list, I would have put all four turtles
together because, again, it's hard to separate
them out. Okay. Well, it's been a while since
we had a tie, so let's head to one next. tie
-in here for in the 82nd slash 83rd spot with
259 points we have two different characters let's
start with the loser of the tiebreaker and that
would be uh our first character from the world
of hasbro as certain people may be rolling their
eyes out there originated in the 1982 comic book
also uh been a while since we had a bad character
so let's go to with number 83 choice cobra commander
interesting here uh was in one person's top 10
in two one person's top 20 and one person's top
25 so the people that ranked him ranked him very
high i'll start because when it came to villains
especially like 80s cartoon villains or action
villains i kind of used what we talked about
dan in the beginning where if i was going to
put one on there i narrowed it down to just probably
just one because obviously there's a ton of those
type of archetype characters, I guess you could
say. So Cobra Commander did actually not make
my list at all, but he is here nonetheless on
the countdown here, number 83. Dan, is he the
best out of the 80s action villains, or is he
not deserving to be mentioned here in the top
100? The best out of 80s action villains? That's
a good question. I guess you would have to just...
based on popularity you know him and like megatron
are probably would be neck and neck uh i was
always more of a gigio fan uh personally than
transformers so i would say yeah i would maybe
lean toward cobra just but as a character i i
don't really think he's super strong i think
i'm actually i'm happy with he's where he's at
and i'm actually surprised he's not up much higher
he just was i don't know like he was just the
80s villain he's evil and Talks kind of like
a snake, but I don't know. Yes, Commander. I
am about to make the first test. Success at last,
Destro. By tomorrow, the United States shall
be ours. So he was always a fine character for
me, but to me he was always more... more memorable
because of the way he looked and his actual characteristics.
Yeah, definitely had an iconic voice, too, from
Chris Lada. Same voice, obviously, very similar
to what he used for Starscream. Matt, any love
for Cobra Commander, or how do you think he rates
when it comes to ranking characters like this?
Well, I messed up. I did a shorter list. I didn't
do the full 100. And I put the G .I. Joes at
the very end of my list and none of the Cobra
guys. But thinking on it, I feel like the G .I.
Joes, like, I don't know. I don't really feel
like a connection to any one of them. Like, no
G .I. Joe stands out. But with the Cobra... the
the cobra enterprise like like cobra commander
baroness like destro they're all i feel like
more fleshed out individual characters like i'm
glad he made it the top 100 and he may be a little
bit higher than he deserves um but when you compare
action guys and you're saying cobra or uh um
megatron it's like where's skeletor at in this
is he not action enough another 80s uh action
villain yeah there's there's quite a few you
could go to there's there's a lot of them out
there Even someone like Shredder could probably
qualify as... Absolutely Shredder! Come on, Shredder
and Krang. Oh my gosh, Krang. Krang is fantastic.
What do you think about Cobra Commander? I think
Cobra Commander is a good 80s villain. I think
for a while I was debating between him and some
others. I mean, kind of the archetype for that
would have been Skeletor, I feel. And maybe Cobra
Commander is kind of pretty much as good. I feel
like there are maybe better 80s iconic supervillains.
But Cobra Commander, he is a great character,
fantastic voice, very iconic. I'm not too surprised
to see him on the list. I think he's placing
a little too well on the list, but I'm not necessarily
opposed to him being here. I may be more opposed
depending on what other iconic villains pop up,
but I don't know. It's really hard to say. There's
also multiple interpretations of this character.
The short -run G .I. Joe Renegades, I think,
was the name of the show that was on The Hub?
Yeah. That one, Cobra Commander was a really
commanding presence. And I like that interpretation
of Cobra Commander. The old 80s one, I may turn
some heads here, but I feel like G .I. Joe is
better than Transformers Generation 1. So in
that way, I would maybe, but it's weird because
I think I would still rate Megatron over Cobra
Commander. But, man, I don't know. In our 80s
tournament, our 80s villain tournament. That's
all right. We did a few years back. Cobra Commander
did not make it to the finale. I believe the
finale of that was Skeletor and Megatron. Amanda,
any thoughts on all these boys action cartoons
from the 80s and the villains? Do you think Cobra
Commander is worthy? Sure. I don't have a ton
of experience with G .I. Joe. It was before my
time, a little bit there with, you know, I think
in this time I was watching like Sesame Street
and stuff where you guys were getting down on
Transformers and all that, where I know a little
bit more about Transformers than I do G .I. Joe.
And, you know, I dug the new movies, the live
action movies. I dug them. I think that definitely
iconic voice work and definitely somebody that
people know. He's, you know, pretty big in pop
culture. So I can definitely agree with him being
on the list. As far as ranking, I'm not sure.
I mean, yeah, sure, he's a good spot at this
one. All right. 82. Moving on then to the person
that won the tiebreaker with Cobra Commander.
And going back somewhere where we haven't been
for a little while, let's go back to the world
of Hanna -Barbera. Interesting that they're both
in this part of the countdown. We're going to
the 1966 original TV character here, Space Ghost
himself. So we had Brock earlier, and now we
get Space Ghost. Matt, let's start with you.
I don't even know what to say. Like, he's been
around for forever. He had a TV show in the 60s
that was terrible. Like, I don't know if anyone
on the panel has ever watched it, but the original
Space Ghost show had a pretty simple format.
Space Ghost is a badass superhero. He finds himself
without his powers, and then a monkey saves him
every single episode. but that gary owens oh
it's it's unreal um but then uh again uh revived
in the 90s with space ghost coast to coast um
he then has appeared in a lot of other things
uh like the bragg show i believe 12 ounce mouse
probably aqua teens considering they started
on his show like He's one of my favorite characters
in any form ever. I have a costume that I should
not wear because I'm a large guy and it's very
white. I can't talk enough about how much I love
Space Ghost. I spent way too much money on Space
Ghost. Matt, you are the first person to see
their number one pick fall. Are you sad about
that? I am not surprised. I'm actually surprised
he made the list even at all. Like I said, my
list is not the normal list. Dan, reading off
the rankings that people gave to Space Ghost,
outside of number one for Matt, we had a 50,
a 68, a 69, a 76, and an 83. So it seems like
there's some agreement as far as the placement
goes. It falls a little bit down here to number
82. What do you think of Space Ghost being another
Hanna -Barbera character that appears so far
on the list? I think this is a pretty good spot
for him. Like Matt mentioned, I think this is
obvious. And like with Brack, this is, I think,
more of a ranking based upon the reimagining
of the character in the 90s. And, you know, that
show that came out, Coast to Coast, in the mid
-90s was so ahead of its time. It really pioneered
the whole adult swim movement that came. Just
watching it now, just like the awkward humor,
I'm surprised he... They were able to get away
with what they did at that time, I'm sure, getting
the celebrities on the show that they were able
to and having them interviewed by a cartoon.
I can imagine how confused everyone was at the
time. So he was just like this really unique,
not only character, but we were imagining for
what Cartoon Network was going to be. It wasn't
just going to be a place where you watch old
cartoons over and over again, and maybe some
people prefer that. But I think because of the
impact he has as a character. Originally, and
then later in his second life, he's certainly
deserving, and you could probably argue maybe
he should be a little higher than he is. I'd
like to go to Amanda next. Maybe he gets negative
points for being so bad previously. Could be,
could be. I'd like to go to Amanda next, because
Amanda, you had Brock all the way up at 13. Space
Ghost's not on your list at all. I do enjoy some
Space Ghost. I just... I did the duel between
Brack and Space Ghost, and instead of having
them both on, since they were both kind of grouped
together with my exposure, the first time I even
saw Brack was on Space Ghost Coast to Coast,
but I ended up... identifying more with Brack,
if that makes any sense. But I think Space Ghost
is definitely iconic, definitely deserving of
being on this list. He was hilarious. I really
enjoyed Coast to Coast. I thought it was super
fun, him interviewing the celebrities and whatnot.
And his humor was definitely dull, definitely
funny. I want to go back and watch this as an
adult now, and I think I'll enjoy it even more.
But it was definitely a fun time, and his cohorts
and him have a great relationship. He tried to
be a ladies' man, didn't he? Like, he tried to,
like, put the Mac down, I think, and it was hilarious.
Sketch, any comments on Space Ghost before we
make our way to the next entry? Yeah, Space Ghost
Coast to Coast is a fantastic show, a real pioneer
for that kind of humor for older viewers. And
it really opened the doors to Adult Swim, and
Adult Swim's huge now. It's like one of the most
successful networks on television now. And Space
Goes Coast to Coast as a show is very entertaining.
It's really dry. It's kind of an odd humor to
it. But you took a really earnest, by -the -book,
super -powerful superhero from way back when,
and you turned him into a narcissist asshole.
who interviewed celebrities, and it was always
funny. And the one thing that I'm sad about here
is I'm pretty sure we're not going to have Zorak
on this list now if Space Ghost is at this. Maybe
not. Maybe not. But if Zorak doesn't make it,
I'll be a little disappointed. He wasn't on my
list because as far as characters go, I feel
like he falls off the list just a little bit.
But I think this is generally a good place for
Space Ghost, maybe a little higher. But if Zorek
doesn't make it, that's a shame. And rest in
peace, Martin C. Croker. Absolutely. 81. All
right. Making our way to number 81. We've only
had two other characters on this side of the
year 2000 until now. So this is our third post
-2000 character. Also our second Pixar character.
We're going to go from the 2007 film Ratatouille
with number 81 on the countdown being Remy. sure
to make at least one Geekcast Radio Network person
rolling his eyes and upset. But, hey, he's not
here, so we don't have to deal with that. Are
you talking about Mike? Yes. Oh, punch him right
in the face. Right in his eyeballs. So, Amanda,
let's start with you. You had Remy ranked at
number 72. He comes in at number 81. How do you
feel? Pretty good, because that's pretty damn
close. I love Remy. That movie makes me just
really... really happy like it's such a feel
-good movie it makes me hungry it makes me think
of sitting uh in the living room with my family
eating some nice cheese and having crackers and
and watching this mouse really do something that
he was passionate about he really was passionate
he went against everything that he was and everything
his family told him that he should be and went
against his species really and did something
awesome because he was passionate about it and
he followed through with it and he got a little
disheartened but the camaraderie that he built
up with his new friends and managed to kind of
mend some relationships that was having problems
that he was having issues with. Really was heartfelt,
and I loved it, and I think that I want a sequel.
I don't know if it would be as good as Ratatouille,
but I think that I would like to see more of
Remy and his relationships. Dan, you had this
one ranked as well, as did I. I had it a little
bit lower. I had it at 98. Dan, you had it all
the way up at number 36. A little disappointed
that it's on this side of the halfway mark and
coming out already, or just happy to see another
Pixar character? I mean, I'm happy to see another
Pixar character. I do think he maybe should be
on the other side of the top 50. You know, just
being a huge Patton Oswalt fan, I think he lends
a lot of personality to that character through
his voice. And he's just a really good everyman
character. Anyone who's ever had a dream of doing
something that is outside the norm of the box
that maybe society puts on you. And I think there's
a lot of great representation for that character.
It's an odd story of a mouse who wants to be
a chef, but that's kind of what's great about
it. So I don't know. I've always found him really
appealing. And, you know, there's not a lot of,
like, you know, with a lot of some of these characters,
you know, that they have an iconic look to them
or they have certain aspects to them, like a
Donatello that's part of the Ninja Turtles, where
this is just kind of a rat with a dream. But
that's simple in that way. to me, one of the
stronger Pixar characters we mentioned with Inside
Out, how those characters as a whole work together,
but individually not so much, where Remy, I feel,
now did. He was the biggest part of that character,
or that movie, obviously. Well, so three of us
had Remy ranked, and two did not. Does that mean
that there are some dissenting opinions on the
panel from Matt and Sketch, or just not enough
room for Remy on your countdown? Just not quite
enough room. Remy is a good character. Yeah,
as he said, it was a good everyman character
working around the box that society puts you
in. I feel like Remy probably loses some points
because he is a rat. But what's he going to do?
But as far as an individual character goes in
a Pixar movie, he is a really good character
as an individual, which you can't say about a
whole lot of Pixar characters. A lot of them
kind of rely on... a duo or being in a group
but remy remy stole the show so there's that
i gotta say one thing about that movie too many
rats in the kitchen for my liking oh man i saw
a video yesterday of a real live rat playing
a freaking peekaboo with its owner oh that's
adorable Yeah, I was like, that's kind of nasty,
but that is the cutest ride I've ever seen. And
it was, like, big. It wasn't like a little cute
little rat close to a mouse. No, this was a big
-ass friggin' rat. Like, the thing was almost
the size of a Yorkie. It was huge. wow scary
right yeah but it was so friendly and cute and
was getting excited when it's like owner would
like cover her face with her hands and it would
run up to her face and like grab her hands off
it was it was adorable and that rat should be
in the kitchen I don't know about that, but all
right, five spots left for the countdown today.
I guess buckle up here because it seems like
we're going a little bit all over the place for
the remaining five spots. Some interesting selections
that surprised me for sure. Starting with number
80, maybe not as surprising as one to come, but
we're going to go back to the 80s action shows,
I guess, for another selection here and another
bad character. We just talked about it with Cobra
Commander and how he ranked. Well, apparently
not ranking quite as well. as high as the one
matt brought up number 80 would be skeletor from
filmation skeletor was in the finale of our of
our 80s cartoon villain showdown uh facing off
against megatron so we see skeletor here two
two or three spots above cobra commander i guess
when i went to rank them i did not rank cobra
commander i ranked skeletor at number 90 just
because i thought if i'm going to pick an 80s
uh cartoon villain or kind of that type of mold
uh he was kind of the one to pick for me the
other ones seem like they're just kind of copying
that or maybe don't quite have as much to to
give as skeletor does especially if you kind
of go through some of the different versions
of he -man so that's why i ranked skeletor instead
of cobra commander i didn't have a lot of room
for a lot of 80s action characters. It's just
shocking me because I feel like that's your niche.
I like the shows, but if I'm looking at the characters,
some of those characters are pretty paper thin,
so I wouldn't have put them on here. But Skeletor
was just enough to get to the 90 spot for me.
Amanda, you also ranked Skeletor. Actually, a
lot of love from the females here because you
had it ranked at 83 and Tara Blair had it ranked
as number 10. So some love there. What do you
think about Skeletor and why did he make it on
your list? list. I think that he's definitely
one of the most iconic characters coming out
of that genre, and I think that he was super
creepy and weird, but also he was laughable.
You could laugh at some of his attempts and just
how he was in his voice, and I think that he
makes really awesome memes. He's had more memes
than some of the other 80s action characters,
for sure. Alan Oppenheimer does a great job with
his voice. original cartoon matt you as well
rank skeletor instead of cobra commander what
made you do that i i love skeletor like i love
well one i love his design he's just like just
fucking muscles with the skeleton head like for
no reason and then i love his voice like anticipated
that that is so if that's the way you want it
then that's the way you get it Nice try, boneface!
But have some of mine! You blasted blue bungler!
Take that! Getting rusty, Hordak? Try this! And
the reimagining in the early 2000s. He's a total
badass sorcerer swordsman guy. He's my favorite
80s villain, probably. Absolutely. I can see
a lot of people agreeing with you on that one.
Dan, are we too much 80s action love here? I
mean, we're not talking top 50, top 70. 80, I
think, is fine for Skeletor. Like I said, He
-Man was one thing that I missed in my childhood,
so I didn't really rank him, and I think I ended
up ranking Cobra instead. So I can't really argue
one character is better than the next. They're
both about the same. I mean, legitimately, you
could probably list their characteristics on
a piece of paper, and they match up pretty perfectly.
So it's just really a preference, really. Yeah,
I can see that for sure. Sketch, you did not
rank Skeletor either. I almost did, though. He
was on my list at one point, and I bumped him
off for another iconic villain. I think Skeletor
is a great 80s cartoon villain. I feel like all
of these characters are really enhanced by parodies
that came after them, and like Robot Chicken,
the Robot Chicken bits with Skeletor and Cobra
Commander and Shredder and all of them, so great.
Oh, and Megatron, obviously. And even they get
Frank Welker most of the time to do Megatron,
and that's freaking fantastic. I would say, yes,
you should rank Skeletor above Cobra Commander.
I might rank somebody else. Higher than that
because of when I grew up. And also because this
other character has so many other interpretations.
Usually ranging in the more badass. But I think
Skeletor is a really great prototypical bad guy.
And he's ridiculous and he's entertaining. And
what more can you want out of a villain, really?
And the reason why he is a skull with... muscles
is because somebody burnt his freaking face off
and he just doesn't give a fuck no and that's
another great thing about him nice all right
so uh well everybody will have to weigh in what
you guys think cobra commander falls and then
skeletor if you A few spots later, a few spots
higher. Let's go somewhere completely different
for number 79. We have not had a character based
on a theatrical short for a while. We also haven't
had a character that could go back a ways in
origin. We're going back to 1943 for only the
second Disney character so far in the countdown,
or characters, I guess you could say, because
this is our first pairing that we've had, and
it is none other than Chip. and Dale at number
79. Dan, not too far off here. You had them ranked
at 60. They fall here at 79. What do you think
of the first duo of the countdown, Chip and Dale?
Yeah, I mean, honestly, I watched a little bit
of the Chip and Dale Disney stuff. I had a lot
of VHS shorts and stuff, but this really came
down to the Rescue Rangers. As a kid of the 90s,
that was a huge show for me. When you go to other
pairings, I think maybe you're a little bit stronger
or it lasted a bit longer, but they're fun. I
think they're better with... stronger supporting
characters, I don't think they can hold up on
their own as much, which is why I didn't rank
them as high, but I am a fan of Rescue Rangers,
and you do love the fact that if you go back
to your cartoon, you do realize one is dressed
up as Indiana Jones, and the other one is Magnum
P .I., so you got that going for them. I think
people, yeah, a lot of people probably only know
them through Rescue Rangers, or some of their
more modern, they've been in 26 different shows,
movies, games, etc. I think the short shorts
are kind of underappreciated because I think
they were excellent in the original shorts as
well. actually so uh i apparently had them much
higher than anybody else um i just think they're
a great duo and i think they complement each
other very well very similar to a couple other
pairings that maybe we'll see maybe we won't
um but i have a lot of love for chippendale not
just in the rescue rangers but in the the shorts
as well uh amanda matt or sketch any comments
on chippendale i think chippendale is kind of
in the part of my life where i just was kind
of starting to be able to remember um things
so memories of chip and dale um are kind of vague
for me but i i really remember enjoying them
and i definitely saw them in rescue rangers and
i think that um they were super fun and super
cute and i wish that i remembered them more fair
enough matt i mean that she echoed my opinion
perfectly i mean we are the exact same age Alright,
so Sketch, any last thoughts on Chip and Dale?
Yeah, you have the two different levels with
Chip and Dale. You have their rescue rangers
where Chip is trying to be a leader and Dale
is a bit of a goofball and he's always kind of
trying to prove himself. And then in the old
shorts, they were just a foil to characters like
Donald Duck and those are really funny. They
really rattle those other characters' cages.
There is that great level to it. And I would
say if you wanted to put them up against a similar
duo of characters, Macintosh, the Goofy Gophers,
probably Chip and Dale come out on top in that
regard too. Yeah, I would agree with that statement.
I'm good with Chip and Dale where they are. Maybe
a little higher. I think I forgot to rank them.
Yes, you did. Oh, my bad. But I figured somebody
would. Yeah, enough to get him up here on to
the number 79 slot. 78. Going to number 78, well,
let's stick with Disney, but let's go with a
Disney character based on a film. We've only
had a few characters based on films in this segment
of the countdown, and we've only had a few characters
coming from the 1990s. How about the first Disney
princess, Mulan, coming in at number 78. Amanda.
You had Mulan ranked the highest, I believe,
at number 17. Are you a little sad that she falls
here at 78? A little sad, but I get it. I don't
think she was one of the most popular Disney
princesses. I think she might be a tad underrated
at times. This was a time in my life where movies
really meant a lot to me, like started to mean
something. And I got a lot out of it. I really
connected with her. I was like a weird, awkward
tomboy when I was little and, you know, trying
to kind of come into your own and brush off whatever
else thinks of you. And, you know, especially
if you're not kind of like in this cookie cutter
situation, it's it's difficult. And I remember
seeing the previews for Mulan. being like super
moved and because it's like this storm and she's
like out in the rain crying and she really deals
with like life and death situation and the gravity
of what she goes through is is really marvelous
and i think that she she goes about it with such
grace really i mean she is kind of awkward and
you know family at times but i think how she
she comes into her own is it's really a great
story and i think she's empowering and i I don't
know if this is the right numbering, but like
I said, in this kind of section, it's hard for
me to say, yeah, this is a good spot for that
or not. But I'm glad she even made the list,
honestly. Dan, we talked about in the beginning
that sometimes if there were certain types of
characters, we might have only went with the
top one or the top two. Is that a situation for
Mulan? And if Mulan is here at number 78, How
many other Disney princesses do you expect to
show up in the rest of the countdown? It's hard
to say because I guess I don't even consider
Mulan a Disney princess in a way. I was going
to say that. Which is more positive for her than
strict. I feel like with a lot of Disney princess
characters, they tend to be... very weak as characters
often like they're you know they're more of time
and place they're often damsel in distress they
are kind of allowing things happen around them
where they're not really the ones moving forward
with the plot like you know Snow White or Cinderella
maybe less Cinderella so yeah probably others
are more popular and are more known for their
movies where I feel like if you're looking strictly
on character you could probably argue Mulan is
as good as if not better than all the disney
princesses but probably is not getting getting
ranked higher simply because maybe her movie
isn't as well known as well respected so i think
that's where you're seeing her fall here or maybe
we won't have any more disney princesses and
she's the only one that got ranked i'm gonna
probably guess it's the former rather than the
latter so um i like i think that's kind of a
case where maybe we'll see a few more i guess
like i said cinderella snow white uh Sleeping
Beauty, maybe. But I guess, like I said, I think
that's more of a circumstantial than rather a
character being ranked where they should based
upon the quality of who they are as a character.
But that music, though, in her movie, tops. Sketch,
do you agree with what Dan's saying, or what
are your thoughts? I think as far as characters
go, Mulan is the best Disney princess. As far
as popularity, iconicness goes, she definitely
falls down the list. Like, I don't even think
of her as a Disney princess, really, because
she's much more than that. She's a great, empowering
character. She's a friggin' war hero. Yeah, exactly.
I was just kind of going in the way that they
merchandise, you know, they group her in. Yeah,
they do, and they do that with Merida, too. Merida
really is, like, legit a princess. She's just,
like, I mean, she's royalty. Merida, warrior
princess. Yeah, I do expect to see one or two
other princesses to pop up, maybe. Just because
of popularity. I mean, if people were thinking
of what's popular, then I'm pretty sure one or
two will pop up ahead of Mulan. But if they don't.
Okay, I'm good with it. I think it's one of the
most interesting kind of little sub -stories,
plots, or whatever you want to call it, lines
going through this countdown is to see how the
Disney princesses shake down and if people did
go with the ones that were actually good characters
or if popularity played a part. So that's definitely
something to watch for as we kind of go through.
If those frozen bitches beat out Mulan, I'm going
to be pissed. Me too. Matt, I know you haven't
seen all of the Disney films, but you know of
all of them. So what do you think of Mulan in
comparison to some of the other names that you've
been hearing thrown about? Everything that I've
heard is that she's more interesting as a character.
She's more of a protagonist and less of a victim.
Like everyone says, she sounds like she's the
best choice. I have not seen her movie. But I
feel like that's a bigger regret than, say, not
having seen Snow White. Yeah. All right. Yeah,
because that bitch is just falling down the woods.
You don't want Snow White for Snow White. It's
all about the dwarves. We've asked a lot of questions
already so far through this portion of the countdown,
and we actually are going to get one of the answers
already as well that we asked earlier. 77. Coming
in at number 77, our second character from Amblin
Entertainment. From the same film, 77 is Jessica
Rabbit. So Jessica Rabbit beats out Roger Rabbit.
They both appear in this segment of the countdown.
Dan, did we get that right or wrong? I think
we probably got that wrong because it's like
name a characteristic regarding Jessica Rabbit
that defines her character that doesn't reflect
the way she looks. And I don't know if you can.
And that's kind of the point of the character.
i guess maybe we could argue she certainly has
her place you know basically as an icon or of
some sort but as a character i would i would
flip flop this with roger rabbit It's interesting,
too, if you look at it, because actually more
people voted for Roger Rabbit. He appeared on
seven people voted for Roger and only six people
voted for Jessica Rabbit. But if I read the rankings
again, Roger Rabbit, 82, 77, 63, 85, 66, 58,
and then 39. Jessica Rabbit, 97, 94, but then
it goes to 43, 43, 30, and 25. So the people
that did rank Jessica Rabbit ranked her a little
bit higher. Amanda? What do you think? Agree
with Dan that we got that wrong, or do you think
this is how it should have played out? Did I
rank her? You did rank Jessica Rabbit at number
94. Yeah, I was struggling a little bit with
the matchup that we saw on Facebook. It was hard
for me to pull out one or the other, but I think
that Roger Rabbit was definitely a more solid
character. I think there was more to him, and
I think that we... If this being a male -dominated
list, maybe, you know, animated boobies wins
out. I don't know. Sketch, we talked about that
a lot of times a certain TV show or a certain
film might eliminate certain characters because
you're only going to go with the top character
from that film or from that show. Who Framed
Roger Rabbit gets two characters in. Surprised
by that? I'm not too surprised because clearly
some people were thinking with their other head.
But I think it's a real throwaway, honestly.
There's much better characters than Jessica Rabbit.
She's just kind of there because of iconicness
and feelings that people associate with her.
But she's just paper thin. There's nothing to
her. Because she's 2D. But she's not bad. She's
just drawn that way. So that's three people that
are in agreement there that Jessica Rabbit maybe
doesn't deserve to be this high or on this side
of Roger Rabbit. Matt, are you going to make
it four for four or are you going to disagree?
No, I think Roger Rabbit deserves to be above
her. And again, not surprised. I think I mentioned
that earlier. All right, so that is the answer
to that question. We only have one more spot
left in today's section of the countdown. 76.
I'm coming in at number 76, and this is one of
the two most surprising ones for me. This goes
right up there with Slappy Squirrel. I'm very
surprised that this character is on the countdown,
and maybe a sign that some people might get scared
here for the rest of our countdown. But we're
going back to the world of Hasbro, actually,
and back to a show that has already had a character.
Beating out Cobra Commander, coming in at number
76, Snake Eyes. So not one of the main villain,
not the main villain, not the main hero. Snake
Eyes from G .I. Joe coming in at number 76. The
Simplistic Reviews guys had this at number 21.
The Talking in Circles guys had this at number
21. Steve Megatron Phillips had it at 23. So
that's three people that had it in their top
25, just to mention a few of the people that
rank Snake Eyes. Sketch, let's start with you.
Snake Eyes beats Cobra Commander. Shocked? I
don't think that's right. Snake Eyes is a cool,
really cool character. He's like a quintessential
ninja in G .I. Joe. He's a cool character. He's
usually pretty likable in every interpretation.
He's a strong but silent type. He's not that
interesting, in my opinion. But, I mean, different
interpretations, he can be interesting. Like,
he can have an interesting backstory. The whole
thing with him is Storm Shadow. It makes for
a good story, but as an individual character,
he's a ninja. There's not much else to him. Also,
unless you're counting Tinkerbell, obviously
in some of the incarnations, Tinkerbell does
not speak, but also one of the first non -speaking
characters to appear on the countdown. I don't
know if that gets him bonus points from people
when they're ranking him or not. Amanda, do you
know enough about G .I. Joe to know Snake Eyes?
I think Snake Eyes was dope in the live -action
movies, but I don't remember him in the cartoon.
Fair enough. Matt or Dan, any thoughts on Snake
Eyes showing up on the countdown at all? Deserving
or shit? What are we thinking here? I think he's
my favorite G .I. Joe. That's all I can say.
Yeah, growing up as a kid, he was always my favorite
G .I. Joe. Mostly because he was a ninja, so
it's like, you know, it was just the cool dude
with the noise, and he had a dog, right? Am I
wrong? I had to remember. It's been a while since
I watched the video. Spirit had a dog. I don't
remember if Snake Eyes did. Yeah, like Sketch
was saying, if you were just looking at him as
a character, there's really much there. I mean,
not really. He more so looked in the fact that
he... could kick butt, really. So if anything,
maybe switch him and Donatello or something like
that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Interesting, too. It
kind of begs the question. If we've seen Cobra
Commander and Snake Eyes, that's two characters
from G .I. Joe. There better not be more. Snake
Eyes, Arch Enemy with Storm Shadow. We also had
Destro. We had Duke. Are we going to see a whole
bunch of G .I. Joes coming down the pipe? Or
just Cobra Commander and Snake Eyes? And if those
are the only two, that's an interesting selection.
We'll have to wait and see. that. Looking back
here on the first group of 25, just a couple
questions for you guys. Dan, looking at the companies
represented, we've been all over the place. Obviously,
we had a handful of Hanna -Barbera. We had three
Disney, two Amblin, two Hasbro. We had Leica.
We had WB with one. Filmation with a couple.
Pixar with a couple. One Muppet. And a handful
of anime characters. What do you think of the
diversity of this? More specifically, if we're
looking at some of the action, you know, kind
of from the right time period for the people
involved in this list with characters from He
-Man, characters from, you know, G .I. Joe, Turtles,
et cetera, represented, and only three Disney
characters, is that more of a sign of that the
Disney characters are being saved for later?
Or are you anticipating an 80s action bias running
through this whole countdown? I feel like it's
a sign for Disney characters to come later because
when you have so many choices, like if you get
those that I think you could, the obvious choices
are probably going to be, you know, coming later
where, you know, where you get a lot of diversity
here. Because once you, when you're creating
a list, it gets really challenging, the latter
half. So you get more variety. You're kind of
just trying to think of ones where I'm sure when
we get to the top 25. top 50 you're going to
see a lot more of the more known studios maybe
we'll get less anime where we'll get most of
the pixar and disney and looney tunes coming
up i'm actually kind of surprised we haven't
seen more looney tunes characters yet uh considering
just how many of those are but i'm happy i guess
that could go into the same type of thing if
we if you treat that as a franchise and you only
vote for you know one or two of them will we
see how many will we see so that's a an interesting
line to kind of follow through as well Going
into kind of the breakdown as far as Matt, you
said you didn't rank any anime characters. How
surprised are you that we've already seen, what
was it, four or five anime characters in this
section of the countdown? I think I'm about as
surprised as how few Disney characters we've
seen. I feel like the anime characters are going
to be definitely in the last half. Or, you know,
the first half, however you look at it. The lower
ranked, the Disney characters are going to be
higher ranked. I mean, there is more diversity
than I expected. I never even considered Akira.
And I'm sure there's going to be a couple more
surprises just like that. We haven't seen Goku
yet, who I'm sure made the list. Goku, like,
everyone loves Goku. I saw the best t -shirt
online today of Goku. And it was like the scene
from Friday when they were like, damn. But it
was, yeah, I think it was Goku and Gohan. You
are a reference for all YouTube slash memes and
pictures out there. You're a great source for
that. I'm on it. All right, Amanda, question
for you here. We talked about in the beginning
that maybe the female male split would be 80
-20 or 70 -30 or something like that. You guys
were talking about 70 percentages or something
like that. So far, we've seen 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,
6, 7, 8 female characters in this grouping of
24. Surprised or not? I want to say no. I think
there should be enough iconic characters with
everything in Disney and everything that we've
just seen in like 80s stuff and whatnot. I think
that we should have enough to be able to put
a good smattering of female characters in there.
And we do have a couple females on this panel
here submitting lists. So I think that there
can be love from all sides. And I think that...
Did we underestimate the amount of Disney females
when we were putting that percentage out, the
70 % or 80 % males? Perhaps. I mean, there's
like a fuck ton of Disney princesses. Fair enough.
All right, a question for you, Sketch. We also
talked about the good versus evil and how a majority
of the characters were probably good, but we
did see a smattering of bad characters here,
I guess. You got Skeletor, Cobra Commander, Brock,
Dick Dastardly. We'll call him Brock, like Brock
Lesnar. Brock. Brock. I didn't watch the show.
My bad. But, Sketch, is only four bad characters
showing up? Is that surprising, or do you think
that's going to be kind of the similar thing
for each section of 25, only three or four bad
characters? I think the ratio is probably going
to maintain itself that way. I think the closer
you get to the top, it will taper off a lot more.
Like, I don't think there's going to be any in
the top 10, maybe not even in the top 20. But
I think for the next batches, you're still going
to see three to four pop up. All right. We'll
have to wait and see for that. I want to give
you guys each one more chance. Just give your
final reaction so far on this section of the
countdown, what you liked, what you didn't like,
surprises, disappointments. Is there one character
that you definitely feel is undeserving, or what
do you think? Let's start with you, Amanda. What
are your general thoughts on numbers 100 through
76? Definitely a few curveballs in there. I would
have thought that Skeletor would have been higher
up just based on the people that are ranking
here. Same thing with She -Ra. I think that having
a lot of Hanna -Barber characters definitely
made sense, though, especially in this grouping.
So a couple of curveballs, but definitely some
stuff that I would expect. Sketch, how about
you? What are your overall thoughts on numbers
100 through 76? There have been some interesting
picks here that I really didn't consider. Yeah,
I figured there would be a lot more variety on
this end of the list, and that's why I was kind
of excited to be talking about this part of the
list, because I figured it would be less of the
obvious choices and more of the, oh, hey, how
about that? And yeah, I think it's been pretty
good so far. I already mentioned that I don't
think Tetsuo or Jessica Rabbit should be on this
list. I don't think Snake Eyes should be on this
list. At least not Snake Eyes and Cobra Commander.
And if there's another G .I. Joe, I mean, for
goodness sake, people. Because I'm sure there's
going to be more 80s characters. We don't have
Megatron or Optimus Prime on here yet. You know
there will be. And Goku's a given, even though
adult Goku is an annoying, boring character.
It's all about kid Goku. Kid Goku was the best.
Yeah, I like the variety we've seen so far. We've
seen a ton of different companies, studios. We've
seen a lot of different decades represented so
far, source material. I am a little bit surprised.
I guess the two that stand out the biggest for
me would be Snake Eyes and Slappy Squirrel. I
wasn't expecting those two. Slappy is real unexpected.
Yeah, and a few characters that I don't know
enough about, so I still need to be exposed to
a couple of them. But overall, I'm pretty happy
with this segment and kind of the flip we're
getting started off on. Matt, what about your
overall thoughts so far? 100 through 76, what
kind of grade do we get on this? Well, I mean,
Slappy Squirrel's showing up, and I'm like, is
Chicken Boo going to show up? Like, Chickapoo
was more entertaining than Slappy Squirrel, or
even The Good Feathers. Like, of all of your
Animaniacs characters, you chose that one? Like,
I mean, the Animaniacs themselves are going to
have to show up, absolutely. Because, I mean,
if just the two or three people that put her
on their list, they're going to put them on their
list, right? Maybe she's just their favorite
Animaniac. Oh, man. I don't know. And that's
this list. I don't know. I feel like eight of
my top ten are not going to be on this list,
and yet puppets are, and somehow that bothers
me probably more than it should. Because, like,
puppets. They're puppets. Don't get me wrong,
I love puppets. I watched No You Shut Up. I watched...
I love puppet stuff. They're not animated. So,
I don't know, man. This thing is going to go
off the rails, I feel like, other than Disney
Princesses and a couple of other guys here and
there. I'm going to have no idea what's coming
up on the next 75 of these guys. Dan, I'll ask
you the same question. What kind of grade do
you give us so far? Well, I think there are probably...
I think arguably two to three characters that
maybe shouldn't be on here, like Jessica Rabbit
and Snake Eyes, and maybe you could argue that
Cobra Commander as well. So a B, I guess. I mean,
I'm happy to see characters like Nausicaa and
Coraline. I do wish they were higher, but I'm
happy that they're on the list. I'm happy that
we did see as many female characters as we did.
I hope that continues as we go forward. And this
is probably, like Sketch mentioned, maybe the...
the most fun because this is where it's like
you legitimately have no idea because if you
ask me to name like 300 characters i don't think
i would in that come up with slappy squirrel
just because of this the amount of characters
that come up right so that was kind of a fun
fun to see so that's interesting in and i'm also
Seeing a character like Cobra Commander go this
low, though, makes me wonder maybe we won't get
as many of those 80s action characters as we
think we will. I mean, obviously, two big ones
like Optimus Prime and Megatron are probably
going to be high up there, but I don't think
we'll get another G .I. Joe character. Maybe
Sgt. Slaughter. You never know. He could sneak
up there somehow. But, yeah, I think it's good,
but... It's hard when it comes to this end of
the countdown. I think moving forward, we'll
see. Solid B. That's a passing grade. So for
those of you wondering about the names and characters
that didn't quite make the countdown, we save
that until the wrap -up show once we're done
with everything just to keep the suspense going.
So we will do honorable mentions and those that
just missed at the end of the entire countdown.
But that's it for this segment of the Top 100.
Thank you very much for listening. Make sure
you go to the website geekcastradio .com and
commenting on what your thoughts are so far.
We definitely will talk about... feedback at
some point along this adventure uh sketch before
we go how can people get into contact with you
on twitter or how can people listen to more of
your thoughts on different things Okay, my Twitter
is at sketch1984. I also have a Tumblr, sketch1984
.tumblr .com. My podcast is ToonamiFaithfulPodcast,
which is on podcast .toonamifaithful .com and
also soundcloud .com backslash ToonamiFaithfulPodcast.
But look it up on iTunes. And my final thought
is, if Shredder and or Crang is not on this list,
you have all failed me. And if anybody out there
likes listening to Amanda, Matt, Dan, or I for
some reason, obviously check out Cinema Geeks,
where we give you guys a weekly movie discussion
on a variety of different things, including what
we talked about today, the Miyazaki Spotlight.
Also, be sure to check out some of the other
contributors, In Session Films, Simplistic Reviews,
Talking in Circles, as well as the other Geekcast
Radio Network content. If you want to get in
touch with each one of us individually, you can
also do that via Twitter. Dan, what is your Twitter
handle? I am at MovieRevolt. Matt? I am at FridleySent.
Amanda? At HardCandyMandyEyesNoWise. And I am
at OptimusSolo. Tune in next time for the next
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