Interview with Talking in Circles on Podcast Origins

Imari Williams here and you're listening to Geek

Cast Radio Network. You're listening to the Geek

Cast Radio Network. This is GCR episode 74 and

TFG1 Mike is talking in circles with Dan, Chuck,

and Greg this week. Hello and welcome to Geekcast

Radio. This is episode 74 and this is one of

two podcasts coming up here on GCR where we talk

to the other network shows that Neither I nor

Steve have anything to do with, for the most

part. I am of course your host TF2 on Mike, and

this week we are going to be talking in circles.

Welcome, movie revolt Dan, hello. How's it going?

It's going. Everybody knows him, he writes the

movie reviews that some I agree with, some I

completely don't agree with on the website, and

he started talking in circles. Along with us

we have Greg, hello. Hello. And Chuck, hello.

Hey, what's going on? Not much, not much. All

right, so, Dan, how long have you been around?

I'm old, I don't remember. Well, I started -

2011? Yeah, near the end of 2011. I started just

writing blogs back then. So Dan's been with us

about three out of the five years that the Geocast

Radio Network has been online. And this was this

year, right? End of last year beginning of this

year January. Yeah, January. That's right. That's

right January of this year. Dan launched his

his own podcast On geek cast radio .com you cast

your network entitled talking in circles Why

don't you talk a little bit about Dan? What you're

like why you wanted to start the podcast where

the title of the show came from and that kind

of stuff Okay. Yeah, no problem. Basic the basic

premise the idea where the name comes from is

actually We kind of mentioned this on our pilot

episode, but the idea is when greg chuck and

I are good friends I grew up with chuck. We've

been we've known each other since second grade

Greg and I we spent our first college class together

So we've all been kind of friends since then

and during our time in college and whatnot Like

no matter what we did no matter where we went.

We would always end up Someplace in a circle

talking about whatever it could have been, you

know key culture usually because we are all into

that type of stuff so it became this running

joke with us the idea of the circle and it there's

a lot of uh, I Would say incriminating photos

of us doing different photo gags regarding circles

But so that's where the name comes from So yeah

talking in circles is obviously that common saying

but it was kind of a throwback, you know inside

joke a little bit To back in our old college

days, uh, I got the idea for the podcast I don't

know. I would say maybe a year and a half ago

two years I've moved down to baltimore, maryland,

but chuck and greg both still reside and scranton

pennsylvania good old scranton pa And on occasion

we see each other, but we don't get to hang out

a great deal So I was thinking, you know when

we talk on the phone or we communicate it's often

about it is basically a podcast it has a lot

of A lot of our conversation is what we talk

about on the podcast It's similar taking that

and putting it on a podcast forum. So I thought

oh it'd be a good way to kind of Get together

formally and like hang out virtually and then

just record it for fun I actually got the I think

what kind of inspired me a little bit was The

Kevin Smith small cast when he mentioned like

that's why he did small cast was to hang out

with his friend Scott Moser And it was like it'd

be kind of working out. So I'm like, well that

makes a lot of sense. So about June of last year

I mentioned to Greg and Chuck and I don't know

how into it they were but I think Greg eventually

got into it. He actually made a logo for it and

we talked about it a little bit here and there

and eventually we finally sat down and did it.

It took about six months for us to Nailed down

what we wanted to do and we're still kind of

figuring it out But so we started in January

of this year launched her first episode and it's

been going ever since so I know we were one of

the younger podcast compared to a lot of the

other people you've talked with Well, not really.

One of our syndicated shows, Turtle Flakes, they're

only a year old or so. I mean, so, no, you guys

aren't the, well, you're the youngest when it

comes to the overall GCR and regular network

shows because I think it's a tie between you

guys and Weekend at the Movies as far as who's

the youngest. Because both of those ideas kind

of came up. around January of this year. So Greg,

you created the logo for the show? I guess I

did. I think I was possessed by a devil spirit

or something. That happens to him a lot. I don't

know. It does. Usually when I talk about people

being naked, that's when I'm being possessed

by a devil spirit. Yeah, he designed the logo.

Our first logo was a lot different than what

we have now. And then I remember getting like

a message from Greg saying hey, I need a photo

of you and being a little scared about that All

right, I'll guess see where this goes and so

I eventually he sent us the image of our three

faces and You always make the joke that it's

as you see the photo it progresses in facial

hair starting with Greg did myself and then Chuck

so it's how it's designed but uh, yeah, he came

up with that pretty much any of the Images you

see almost that we put out they're all done by

Greg the most part Yay college is a good degree

for me Graphic design there you go. Yeah, according

to my one teacher graphic designers are the rock

stars of the art community And if that's true,

I am not getting enough action I Guess you just

need longer hair. Yeah, I need the nice long

flowing hair Yeah, if you were still stuck in

the 80s, maybe I think Khaleesi's into guys with

long hair Yeah, I don't yeah see this is kind

of what Gregson did Yeah, I think I think but

yeah, so we we started around there and like

when we first started I don't think we had an

idea exactly of what we kind of wanted to do

like we know we wanted what topics do you want

to cover but the big question became Well, how

do we go about it in? We've all come at this

with a lot of different ideas I mean Greg you

you started the at the end of each episode we

end with a letter or something like that and

that was an idea came from Greg so Greg you want

to talk about where that came from like why and

where that idea came from and That whole say

let me let me just clarify before he speaks you

mean an actual written letter not just hey This

is Sesame Street and the letter of this week

is L. Yeah, we're up Yeah, we're up the K now.

We're up the K. Well, okay. We're gonna see what

we get next week We don't know yet do not follow

along every episode it spells out a phrase now

Pretty much no, we we yeah an actual written

letter to someone or something or just an open

letter It's been a lot of different things and

I think we've written for happy funny jokey things

We've written some sad things for people who

passed away and it's kind of run the gamut of

all the different things But yeah, so Greg where

did that idea come from or do you not even know?

That idea came from of me constantly pretty much

criticizing Brian Michael Bendis to you guys

and then I was thinking about on like different

shows that you watch like the older shows with

like different families and stuff like Family

Matters that kind of thing where they usually

have an episode in there through their run of

somebody Having an issue with somebody else and

that they would write a letter to somebody but

don't send it you just kind of get all their

feelings down and like and that would help them

move on so I kind of just Slammed the two together

in my head and I figured what if we had this

little thing at the end Where we know like Brian

Michael Bendis isn't gonna listen to the podcast

But it's nice to kind of put that energy out

there so we could kind of move on from those

scenarios and maybe the people that do listen

can kind of relate and be like, yeah, that kind

of does piss me off, or yeah, he isn't as great

as everybody thinks he is. And so that was kind

of the whole idea behind that. I'll tell you

guys this, you'll be surprised who listens because,

you know, every time I or Dan posts whatever

links we're posting on Facebook for the fan page,

you know, that one person out of 12 people that

it might have reached or 13 people or 100 people

that it might have reached, that could be someone

that clicked on the site, you know, clicked on

the link and went to the site and listened to

it. So you never really know. Well, you let me

know if Amelia Clark writes in, Emily Radikowski,

Jennifer Lawrence. I have a list, so let me know.

I think Jennifer Lawrence is a little busy right

now, especially with being hacked. She's probably

nowhere near a computer in. No. She probably

went back to the 1920s. No computers, no nothing.

She's living in Amish country, actually. Yeah,

fully clothed, strangely enough. But yeah, so

that, I mean, I don't know. I mean, I know I've

been saying a lot. But Chuck, what was your?

Idea when you got into the podcast because I

know that I kind of sprung it on you guys So

I always I always I was hesitant because I didn't

know what you guys would think of it But it seems

like you were at least enjoying it a little bit

You guys are 35 episodes in if they weren't enjoying

it. They would hold you. Well, I I have a lot

of blackmail Yeah, I I mean I was kind of You

know, hesitant at first, I'll be honest. I never

really did anything like this before. I mean,

I have a perfect face for radio, so I thought

that... I think we all have a perfect face for

radio. But I mean, I wasn't super excited about

it only because I was a little bit shy and embarrassed

and stuff like that. I know Dan has told me many

times that everyone hates their voice when they

first hear it in a recording or something and

I still hate mine, but I've learned to deal with

it. But yeah, you know, once we got rolling,

it kind of became just, you know, hanging out

with my friends and talking about stuff we have

in common. And it's kind of like this cool meeting

we have every week. And it just so happens that

we're recording it and kind of letting everyone

else listen in on it. See that's the thing with

me where I've gotten to the point now where I've

been doing this for six years doing this for

six years Sure, I have certain ways to introduce

shows and stuff like that and where it sounds

like it's an actual show someone could find somewhere,

whether it's on TV or on the radio. But at the

same time, I hit the record button as long as

nothing goes wrong. I've gotten to the point

now where as long as, like, no call drops, no,

you know, dogs in the background, no screaming

babies, my neighbors not crashing through my

ceiling, that kind of thing. Has all those things

happened? In six years, you'd be surprised. In

that order, too. Well, not the neighbors crashing

through the ceiling, but yeah. You know, I've

gotten to the point now where I just hit the

record button. We talk for as long as we talk.

I do a transition stop. rename it, and then go

on to the next conversation. For me, how I have

to edit is I have to edit in clips. I can't edit

one long thing and find a way to put style. It's

not my style. So as far as not enjoying the sound

of your own voice, I get it, because honestly,

99 .7 % of the shows I edit, I listen to them

as I'm editing them. I don't need to hear. I

know what the final product is. I don't sure

I still download all the shows But I don't need

to listen to the episodes after I've published

them Yeah, it took me a while to get used to

it I still don't like it a great deal There's

always times in which because when I edit I go

back and I actually I listen to the entire thing

and because I in some ways Maybe edit to the

too much in a way because I've gone back and

I listen to it and I try to take out you know

Awkward silences some ums here and there like

I kind of meticulous with it Maybe to to an over

extents than I need to be but when I do it I

just I don't know like I have to I try to make

it better and better like I've gone back and

listened to like our old episodes like on a great

deal Just looking at like where ways we can improve

Adjustments we can make and i'm always it's it's

just my how my mindset is like I always I don't

like being static. So I always like to Change

things so because of that. I've just gotten used

to the sound of my voice some actually I think

my head it just became this third person. That's

not me I'm just like that guy sounds weird. I

don't know why he would say that but Yeah, I

just it gets used you get used to it after a

while. I so I could I could see what you're saying

Yeah, I mean see I've gotten to the point and

you I know Dan knows this you guys might not

Chuck and Greg you guys might not know this but

I According to Optima Solo from Weekend at the

Movies, I am on 85 % of what the network puts

out. As far as podcasts go. For me, it's because

I am partially disabled. I don't work. I have

to take care of my mom. So for me, I have 24

hours in a day that I can do with pretty much

whatever I want. And I figure, you know, hey,

why not just go ahead and do as much with the

podcasting stuff that I can do? And I don't even

know what the number is of podcasts that I've

recorded in six years. I know it's over a thousand.

But it's one of those things where I cannot,

I don't mind the sound of my own voice, but unless

I know, this goes back to what I was saying,

unless I know there's something wrong at say

33, 28 in a record, all as I do is, I spent that

time that you're talking about, Dan. When I first

started, I spent 11 hours on one episode getting

rid of the ums and the uggs and the dead air

in the middle of the conversation and. I was

spending way too much time on one episode per

show, and it's like, oh my god, I've gotten to

the point now where I edit as long as there's

no extenuating dead air in the middle of the

show. If there is, I can always find a way to

extend the silence and put a clip in and then

delete around it. But, you know, I just, I couldn't

continue going 11 hours editing one show. It

just... Well, God took forever Yeah, I mean it

depends like it depending on how long show goes

because sometimes your shows are an hour long

sometimes our last show went a little bit longer

we had a It was one of those things where you

just kind of just kept talking because we had

a lot of stuff to cover But uh, so that one like

140 minutes, but we we've got up there a lot

Like I think we've we've gotten better because

some of our app we at our peak our longest episode

I think was like over two hours, but we barely

get up there that much anymore We tend to go

for like 90 minutes is what I think a good amount

I try to try not to go over that so I can get

that up there pretty long though, Dan You you

can but you need I mean our cinema is growing.

It just you gotta keep going Yeah, somebody sometimes

have to call the operator and stuff and because

you're not supposed to be up that long You're

supposed to call the operator. I Think give me

9 -1 -1. I think you're calling the wrong lady

Greg Do we even have operators anymore, is that

even a thing? I don't think so. Operators at

Biagra, that's where we're talking. Help, we've

been podcasting for over four hours. Since I'm

talking to Greg and Chuck for the first time,

I'm going to tell you guys this. Most everybody

knows this. When I started listening to podcasts,

I would listen to shows like World's Finest Podcast

and Earth2 .net the show. Earth2 .net the show

is by Michael David Sims of Earth -TheNumber2

.net. And he, in his 10 year podcasting, he has

at least... Seven to ten podcasts out of that

time that they are either over three and a half

four hours He has one show his longest show wasn't

recorded all at one time was recorded in spurts

seven and a half hours of podcasting now on the

GCR in there have been times where I've had long

shows. I just, as we're recording this, I just

finished editing a three hour and 40 minute show.

I edit it within like, well, the 15 minutes before

we get on the call. So I edited a three hour

show in 15 minutes, because I knew there was

nothing wrong with it, except in two spots that

I just threw in a Greg Berger clip in both spots.

I like Berger's clip. Yeah. Me Grimlock, no podcaster,

me Grimlock King! So, I've gotten to the point

now where on the GCRN the longest, I think the

longest show we've ever had I think is five and

a half total for one episode. If you count the

two Star Wars episodes from M -Wire, those are

five and a quarter hours, but they were broken

up into two separate episodes. Um, but yeah,

I, I'm one of those people where I started listening

to podcasts. I liked long podcasts and I still

do because I can sit here and listen to a four

or five hour show and it doesn't feel like any

time has passed for me. Cause I'm so into the

show. Yeah. It's all about if the content's good

or not. I mean, that's the key. I mean, there's

been times where we've cut things and edited

things, but yeah, I'm not against long podcasts.

It just, I just know people. Some people have

a breaking point. Oh, absolutely. When we've

done movie review podcasts, and they've been

longer than the actual movie, and you're like,

hmm, interesting. I wouldn't break you. I think

that goes to Avengers and Amazing Spider -Man

1. I think both of those were two and a half.

When we did Avengers, Amazing Spider -Man 1,

and Dark Knight, I think all of those were two

and a half, three hours. Yeah, I think something

like that. Yeah, but yeah, so we know we've been

going about and we just did our 36 We'll do our

37th actually after this and 37th in a row Yeah

But yeah, so like a streak going We've been so

I mean When we started this, I think we all had

different ideas We kind of created a document

of different things we'd like to do and we've

we've Can I got gotten from that? We've we've

changed and adjusted new things and Honestly

when I when I come to the podcast a lot of my

ideas spur out of honestly not listening a geek

podcast But listening to like sports talk because

sports talk I think honestly is better produced

and better made than most geek talk radio Because

it's you know, it's more Matt. It's mass -produced.

It's it has to be in a lot of ways So I think

it's to me. That's a better learning model in

how to do things So we've kind of taken some

of those ideas. We've talked at sports about

a few times as well, but I don't know, I think

our major goal is just trying to have a good

conversation and we had a tagline that's kind

of lame, but I think kind of poignant that, you

know, taking timeless topics and new directions

and just taking those ideas and concepts that

we always talk about, but just trying to put

a little bit of a different spin on them if we

can, which I think has been fun. So, I don't

know. Yeah, I mean, I'll say that when you guys

did the superhero draft in the end, the action

hero draft is probably my favorite episode at

this point. Yeah, we've got a lot of good people.

And Greg was the clear winner. I don't care what

the poll says. Greg wants the clear winner. There's

only one deciding factor. That's the vote of

the people. Chuck was a people's champ. I still

haven't won yet. I mean, I got... Dan puts the

poll up. He can fix it. It's like fantasy football

Dan Dan is the commissioner of our fantasy football

team still has not won a championship. No Yeah,

so What other drafts do you guys kind of have

to kind of tease up a little bit? What other

drafts are you guys gonna be doing? Are you gonna

return to those drafts? Are you gonna do new

ones? Yeah, I mean we have to return because

Chuck needs to get his first draft pick We've

been we've been doing it as a person who has

won it ends up getting the the first pick in

the next draft We haven't really nailed one down.

I mean, I don't know you guys I thought maybe

science fiction I mean, there's a lot of different

ones you guys have any ones you'd like to do

we haven't really discussed it really but I think

one that we mentioned possibly Was maybe like

a villain draft or something? Oh, yeah, we did

talk about that. See, yeah. Chuck is the memory

of our podcast as well. We all know him in his

shit. Yeah. Oh, that's funny. That really does

describe me, though. Random access memory. My

memory is so random it's not even funny. It's

not funny. Don't laugh, guys. It's not funny.

Don't laugh. Yes. No, no, you laughed. I heard

it was it was an internal laugh. But yeah, it's

it was a pity laugh probably on dance part because

we have to we have to like kind of juggle the

difference between like the the top fives and

then the drafts like it's obviously different

things, but there's kind of a fine line. So we

have to kind of pick which topics would work

better for which one and kind of go from there.

Well, you guys could always, you know, on. It's

your show you can do whatever you want, but I

was going to suggest if you wanted not necessarily

Every 10 or 20, but I was thinking every 10 episodes

you do a draft every 20 episodes you do a top

five or every five episodes you do a top five

whatever however you want to do it, but I mean

It's the draft ones at least the action hero

one was really really interesting because I would

have never thought to have put David Hasselhoff

and Nicolas Cage in the same team. No one on

earth ever has. I want to see that movie now.

Michael Knight and Memphis Reigns. That would

be awesome. Would make a billion dollars. Yeah,

we I mean we have put some of those parameters

on ourselves So we don't repeat our ideas too

much. I mean we have some ideas We've gone back

to you a few times like we do this thing called

factor fiction, which was like our first episode

We've gotten back to that like once or twice.

We only do top fives I guess it's giving a secret

away, but we only give top fives on episode on

five episodes like when we hit we did top five

at 35 so we'll do another one at 45 just so we

don't go to that too much because then you kind

of run out ideas, but Right our big thing and

we've done a other thing called sequel reboot

and destroy a couple times But we've gone back

to different ideas and we've tried some ideas

and they have not worked and I'm like, well that

didn't work So either we can try and do it differently

like I try this game called moments in time and

it failed miserably It's a learning experience

is like yeah, it just part of it was like I just

designed it wrong and it didn't work out so but

you know, I think it still ended up being an

okay episode, so it's just We try some stuff,

it doesn't work, and sometimes it does, sometimes

it doesn't. Oddly enough, like the action hero

draft, we got so much more feedback on it than

our superhero draft, which I thought would be

the opposite, but it's how the tide works, I

guess. I guess so. Greg, what is your favorite

part of geek fandom? Uh, not getting laid. Um,

no. Uh... No, favorite part. I wish I had a rimshot.

What? This is really pinky now. Wow, guys. We

just found something out about Mike. No. Alright,

let's clean it up. I don't know exactly what

my favorite part is. Like, I just... love these

different stories and these different worlds

and realms. And I don't know if it's a need to

fill some kind of hole, but like in my heart,

not like an anus hole or any other of those sexual

holes, but - No one thought that. No, I figured

no one thought that, but like just trying to

fill maybe like a hole in my heart or something,

but like - Just trying to fill that with like

collecting stuff like a whole bunch of comics

I've been getting into the the Funko pop vinyl

stuff lately So there's the collection side Material

things will never make you happy Greg. I know

exactly and I feel like maybe Psychology wise

maybe that is happening because I do have a ton

of shit and I really need to Find my own place,

which I'm trying to do But I don't know what

it is. I've always liked history so maybe it's

kind of the story element and then with comics

you've got the whole me being interested in art

and illustration and all that kind of stuff and

design. So I think it's just like a combination

of all those things because I really got into

geek culture. through my next door neighbor for

the most part with comic books because he's the

one that introduced me to that and my dad got

me interested in science fiction even though

all he watches anymore are westerns but he introduced

me to Star Wars when I was younger and Ghostbusters

and all that kind of stuff. What do you think

about the upcoming I don't know if you've heard

about it I'm not sure what comics you follow

But what do you think about the upcoming IDW

crossover of change your ninja turtles and the

Ghostbusters? I don't really read that much IDW

I've been trying to expand my horizons on that

But for the most part, I haven't really read

any Ghostbuster comics. It's just kind of the

movies with me because of Dan Aykroyd and everybody

in that movie. I love all the actors in that.

And Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, I grew up with

the cartoon and the movie. I didn't even know

there was a comic until I was way older and I

just really haven't... even tried to, which I

really should read any of the comics for that.

So I came in through different avenues to those

two different titles. Yeah, they're they're doing

a four issue miniseries coming up that's gonna

cross over between the two worlds and Sadly the

IDW Ghostbusters book is coming to an end which

kind of sucks. I haven't read it yet either,

but I Love IDW's turtle stuff. It is a love letter

to every single aspect of the turtles universe

Yeah, I mean, it's so great. That's like one

that's one We don't talk about a lot on our podcast

when we I mean I recently got a lot into boom

studios with their different stuff and Image

but I don't really yeah, I don't think I read

anything from IDW at the moment. Yeah, I've really

been getting into into image and a little bit

into vertigo to yeah, and I just got at the Baltimore

con I got a IDW book and it's a doctor who because

I've really been into Doctor Who anymore the

past couple of years Yeah, Greg's our resident

at Whovian. Do not test my knowledge on it, because

my mind blows. We had an episode, a homework

episode, where we assigned each other different

topics and different things to watch or read

or whatnot. And I got to choose, so I got to

watch the first season, which I have been putting

off forever. So I have a season worth of knowledge,

but beyond that, I don't know much. Yeah, at

this point I'm probably not gonna get I tried

Doctor Who I tried the two thousand the current

series I tried three episodes from each of the

doctors up till the tenth I believe It's too

British for me. I just I just I just can't get

into it, but I am gonna be giving it another

shot Probably sometime next year because we're

gonna be doing something with it in remote control

What about you Chuck? What is your favorite thing

in geek fandom? Well, I kind of had an odd beginning

because I never really got into comics until

I was a little bit older Probably when I was

around 17 or 18. I Guess where it started was

like probably cartoons and movies Obviously like

turtles probably were my first love those cartoons

Like a lot of people, they really had a big influence

on me. And I've always liked, you know, action

movies and stuff growing up. And then when I

got into into comics, it was weird. Like, I think

my grandmother or something got me the a couple

of comic books at some yard sale. I was like,

oh, you know, that's cool. I wasn't really into

them. But for some reason, it just triggered

this like collecting bug inside of me and like.

now I have probably close to 3 ,000 comics. But

I guess like, I like so much about geek culture,

so many different things. I would probably hang

my hat on the comics. I love just reading the

different stories and being taken in different

places and it's just a thrill for sure. Absolutely.

And we all know Dan's the movie buff of the group.

I like to call myself that on occasion But honestly

the thing about maybe maybe we should call you

by your other name I get that too. It happens

I'm not ashamed to a minute. But yeah Honestly,

though the cool thing about doing this podcast

and the fact that it's all we talked about everything

is that we've actually had a lot of influence

on each other because Greg is also really big

into novels like he probably reads a lot more

than then Chuck and I but He ended up getting

me really back into reading actual novels and

i've got more into that recently i've actually

got more in the comics like Starting to read

new things that I haven't before because i'm

getting out of the whole superhero stuff. Not

necessarily I still love superheroes, but uh

starting to read a lot of cool things like uh

I just got done reading. I'm currently reading

this book, Hacktivist, and picked up some stuff

in Valiant, which is kind of superhero -ish,

but differently. But yeah, so that's a cool thing

that we've been able to we've talked about different

things. So we've actually been later down the

road. Like, I kind of got Greg a little bit in

the game of Thrones. I know he was on the precipice

of doing it anyways. I pushed him. Yeah, he kind

of he's been stuck like that for a while now.

He's a big Khaleesi fan. But yeah, and I know

so we've all we've all kind of had that and and

whatnot and movie wise too So yeah, I mean obviously

my first love is movies. What got me into geeked

and probably was Cartoons like Chuck is like

Chuck. I didn't get way into comics until later

in life a little bit when I was younger, but

mostly growing up it was the the X -Men cartoon

and and the Spider -Man cartoons and you know

all the all that stuff and then I've always but

I really got into movies because of podcasting

it was always a movie fan, but when I first got

in the Listen to my quick my first podcast back

in like oh seven or go sex It opened up like

a whole new world movies So ones I wasn't aware

of like independent films like classic films.

So it's still my first love but I've kind of

tried to expand my horizons beyond that but because

honestly in the month of I went through my like

longest drought of not watching a movie like

I once like almost a month without seeing one

just because of work in life so I was always

hurting so started you started twitching and

stuff I did I did I had to take off Monday just

so I can watch like five movies to get over it

it was you know it was like a movie uh improv

to movie uh marathon yeah exactly yeah I gotta

say I'm I'm Movies are really really high up

for me as well. I mean, they're they're very

close with comics for me But I am very much a

redneck and I love shiny things and bright colors

So comics are perfect for me in that aspect So

are the bass boats Chuck loves his bass boats.

Oh, yeah Okay, moving on. Dan, I will suggest

IDW to you because you're trying to get out of

the DC Marvel trap of superheroes. It's not a

trap. Yes, yes it is. Such an awesome trap though.

depending depending on who's writing in depending

on what editorial decisions the dildos make it

dc care anyway uh... i will suggest i do w two

you because it's state basically have ninety

percent of all the famous franchises they've

got transformers they've got turtles they've

got if you're into it ponies they've got uh...

x files they've got a whole bunch of really really

cool and awesome stuff I will highly recommend

the turtles to all three of you guys because

that's a book that I was really skeptical about

because like you guys I started with the cartoon

in the movie and I knew I knew of the mirage

book but I never really knew anything I never

really read it never really knew of it that much

as a kid but reading the idw book the one thing

that did scare me was like as soon as i read

that first issue i'm like oh no they're gonna

be in the mirage style basically no color all

of them have red bandanas blah blah blah oh crap

here we go i thought i wasn't gonna like it at

all and i'm Still hanging on board with it. I

were 37 38 issues into the series and it's Every

little thing in that book is a piece of awesome

There are certain things because they change

artists every time a new arc ends and a new one

begins And it sometimes can be a little jarring

on the art, but the story overall is top notch.

Yeah, I mean, I'll definitely check it out. I

mean, what I've really been getting into, though,

I mean, I like licensing stuff. I mean, that

does sound good. I've heard a lot of good things

about that charter book, or more so like the

independent books where it's like the guy, like,

you know, you just have a guy being able to explore

brand new concept. Like this a few weeks ago,

I talked about. East of West and deadly class

which are two books I I know picked up randomly

at the store one day and they were they're both

fantastic really original concepts new like I

I kind of just want to get into something that's

like not big yet like getting into something

like Walking Dead before it became Walking Dead.

So I'll definitely check out that Turtles book

I'm always looking for new comics, but the throw

recommendations out at you. I would recommend

it. I don't know Like I said, Deadly Class is

a book I don't know who to recommend it to. Like

I said, Chuck probably won't like it, but Greg

might. And East of West, if you're into dystopian

futures or kind of way out there stories, I don't

know. But yeah, I'll definitely check that out.

Always looking for new things. That's always

cool. The other one I'll say, and we can move

off of comics in a minute, is you've been reading

some image stuff. Check out Cowell from Kyle

Higgins. Cowell is the Chicago Organized Workers

League. It is based off of his characters from

his short film entitled League. What if there

was a superhero labor union in 1960 Chicago?

Interesting. It's going to be about five issues

in at this point. It's fairly new. The story

moves very well. You don't necessarily have to

watch the 27 -minute short film, but if you want

to become accustomed to the main couple of characters,

I suggest you do. But it's, like, I think it's

issue two or issue three. They do something in

Colleague. I've never read a comic like this

because it is not for kids at all. It's completely

for adults. And that's what I find with Image

and... mostly images they write pretty much for

grown -ups they're not worried about the kitty

market at all oh no like the dead look class

in the east of west of both by image yeah there's

a lot of graphic you know violence and drug use

I mean dead look class is about teenagers but

I don't know I don't know if I'd want teenagers

reading it it might be a little bit adult version

of Twilight No, I mean like if Twilight was actually

good, um, yeah, that's a big F Yeah, exactly.

It's like stretching if all the way to the end

of the earth All right, what do each of you hope

to get out of the future of talking in circles

Dan money? No real no PBS models allowed Yeah

I don't know. I just I just could hopefully I

just want to get better like that's my main goal

is just getting better each week You know doing

getting at making a better podcast and whatever

way we can I mean, that's I think my number one

goal. Um, and having fun with it Like I have

some ideas like I would like to you know Bring

in we were on the precipice of getting some interviews

and starting there and trying to expand that

I'd like to do that be able to talk to some people

but I think You know to me that my first year

was just trying to figure out what our show is

and then go from there so I didn't want to have

Get stuck in a goal and then like not look at

what's in front of me and just not see the opportunity

there So I think we're just trying to get better

at this point I just pretty much will just echo

what Dan said I'd like to just get better and

develop our chemistry even more. You know, do

without some of the awkward silences that I have

and, you know, some of the lame... It's all Greg's

fault, isn't it? No, no, no, no. But some of

the, like, you know, lame ass jokes that I come

out with and stuff like that, you know, sometimes

you try to be too funny. It doesn't work. But

but no, I'm not I'm not really interested in.

Achieving every any certain level of listenership

or anything. I'm I really don't care who listens

I'm just having a good time like kind of hanging

out with my friends and Having these discussions

and stuff like that And I just I just like us

to sound good to put out a good product and you

know whoever enjoys it That's great, you know

Well, a date with Emilia Clarke, Jennifer Lawrence.

Am I hitting this too hard on the head here?

No? A little bit, yeah. Yeah, because you're

way out of your league. You have not seen me,

sir. I'm looking right at you. I can see a picture

of you. You have not seen a good picture of me,

sir. He's going to put a picture up of John Stamos

and be like, this is what I look like. Plus,

awesome personality. Just saying. But I'd like

to, I've been trying to, I introduced a new thing

at the end of the show with a kind of a play,

a radio -type play, because I'd like to get into

more kind of writing stories and everything.

Not just for the podcast, but I would like to

write a novel at some point. If I could get that

out, that'd be pretty sweet. But I don't think

it's going to happen anytime soon. So I've been

just trying to kind of practice with the unknown

series that I have going at the end of the show.

And I also like to do the podcast because I do

get to talk to the guys. And like Dan said, he's

down in Baltimore. We're up in Scranton. We don't

get to see him that often. And we used to hang

out all the time when we were in college. And

now that that hasn't happened, like now that

we're not in college anymore, it's just kind

of, it's gotten really lonely. So to have to

be able to talk to the guys all the time is just

really great. And beyond that, if something happens,

it happens, it'd be really cool if we could get

more people to listen and more people interested

in different things we talk about, but I'm not

looking for a real big particular goal that I'm

hunting down or anything with this. All right,

I have no idea what we're gonna be doing in episode

75 I Have no idea at this point Episode 76 is

going to be I think weekend at the movies. I'm

not sure wait and see on that You can find talking

in circles on geek cast radio comm every Tuesday

at 4 a .m Yep, because that's when I wake up.

Is that really why you posted at 4am? Yeah, I

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