TeamBotimus Variety Hour

Childhood Toy Collections and Memories

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About this Episode

The team revisits their childhood toy boxes, discussing the figures and playsets they grew up with and the ones they still hold onto today. They trade stories about Transformers, Masters of the Universe, and Star Wars collections—including the frustration of missing out on specific Happy Meal toys and the oddity of Jabba the Hutt's poorly designed trap door. The discussion also touches on the experience of having toy collections sold off by parents, the evolution of action figure quality over the decades, and the early influence of pop culture media like Knight Rider and The Muppets.

This is Kevin Conway, and I am the goddamn Batman.

Not even supposed to be here today. much better

episode for now though courage this is the team

bottomless variety our episode 25 holy crap we're

at episode 25 and guess what after bottomless

is not even fucking here i am tf2 and mike and

joining me as always is slime blower bob hello

hello and his lovely wife candice howdy how are

you pretty good pretty good uh we do have a really

awesome topic for today before you get to that

uh... only of god it's gonna kill me i remember

that the episode the candles was on and i know

what we talked about in that is a matter of whether

it was a number was uh... when kandace was last

on the show uh... someone commented on the caster

your dot com of the author that you said that

wrote twilight no no no no it was a little bit

i'm sorry We had gotten into a discussion about

Star Wars and I had said this series written

by Karen Travis but because of the way they changed

canon in the Star Wars episodes in the I'm sorry

in the Clone Wars cartoon it changed the way

her books framed out and so it kind of she had

to stop the series and It was a whole big thing,

especially for people like me who had read the

series. It was really great. Well, one of the

things I talked about was that I said on your

show that she had written a bunch. She didn't

just write Star Wars books. I said she had written

Halo books as well. And I said, I know she's

written. I said, I'm pretty sure it's Halo. But

I said, I'm not positive. And what was really

kind of funny about it is the comment that was

made in the comments was that, no, she didn't

write Halo books. She didn't write Halo books.

And I was like, OK, well, maybe I was wrong.

I mean, if I'm wrong, I'll admit I'm wrong. Well,

we had an interesting experience this past week.

As all of you know, there's Comic Con. And the

tour books gave away five swag bags. that they

were giving away at comic con i get i assume

these were to the ip people or whatever anyway

it was basically a box of about 20 books and

a backpack this thing is huge there's just tons

and tens of books in it and so i get it i get

home i'm so excited i out right and we win this

we won this it was awesome so we get it like

i actually got it within a few days they ups

ground We got it here in like three days. I was

like, oh my goodness. It's already here. Yeah

Hey, so I rip it open and I'm going through this

box and guess what's in it a halo book written

by Karen Travis It was episode 16 that this that

this show was and I'm actually looking at the

post now and looking at the comment what Eric

Tannowski is said there was Karen Travis also

didn't write most of the halo books He's not

saying... Oh, well maybe I misunderstood then,

because I said she didn't write any. Well, he's

not saying that she didn't... She probably, obviously...

She didn't write most of them. There's actually

a list in the book, and they are farmed out to

all kinds of sci -fi writers. And there's...

You know, almost every book is written by a different

person. Just about. From what I was seeing in

the... You know, in front of the book, they list

all the books. Yeah, and there's they're just

kind of all over the board as far as who wrote

them But I just thought it was funny because

what she did do a series of my mistake was it

I said halo But what I was thinking of it was

the fact that she wrote Gears of War She wrote

four or five four Gears of War books and I believe

one of the Gears of War plots were based on one

of her storylines Something that I had talked

about And she's also doing Gears of War comic

book or graphic novel or something. I was, I

looked it up today and there's actually this

book that she's got out now, this new Halo book

called Grass, Glasslands is the first in I think

it set a trilogy coming out in the Halo series.

This one came out last fall and then there's

another one coming out in October and then there's

another one slated to come out after that I think.

No. No, sorry it was there's one out now and

then the next one's coming out this fall I don't

think there was a third one in it. I could be

wrong I can't remember now y 'all made me turn

off my mouse so I can't go look So yeah, what

we're gonna be talking about this time around

for the 25th episode is The toys we had as kids

and played with and the toys that we wanted to

start collecting as adults for me it was I've

told this I've told a part of this story multiple

times in my four years of podcasting so if people

have heard it before you know fast forward for

about five minutes I remember having various

transformers. My mom still says to this day that

I had a G1 Optimus. If I did, I don't remember.

I'm impressed that your mom knows what a G1 Optimus

means, what that even means. Because my mom would

be like, huh? I educated my mom on a lot of stuff,

so... Definitely. My mother would not care enough

to listen. So Well my She says I had the original

84 optimus I barely remember this what I do remember

having is the Was it 88 89? I forget I think

I think it was one of those years when the power

masters came out I had power master optimus.

I remember having him. I had blaster I had various

different cassettes. So that was what I had for

Transformers. I wasn't a G .I. Joe guy, and I

think the reason why I wasn't a G .I. Joe guy

was because I already had like a bucket full

of those green, you know, statuesque army men.

I was like, yeah, why do I need these other figures

when I have these little ones? I wasn't a Star

Wars guy. I had Legos. But the Legos for me was

like, hey, build this. And I was like, I usually

just ended up building a brick wall and sending

some crash test dummies into it. Let's see, what

else did I have? I mainly had, my biggest collection

as a kid was Masters of the Universe. Half of

it was at my mom's house and the other half was

at my dad's house in Rhode Island. Here's the

part of the story that people have heard so many

times before I went to my dad's one time and

His his house in Rhode Island had I think it

was a three -bedroom apartment I don't know there

was his bedroom my bedroom and then Another room

that was kind of like an office, but it was really

a place for my toys I went down there one time

one in the room. You know cuz that's work I had

Grayskull at my mom's, I had Castle Grayskull

at my mom's, and I had Snake Mountain at my dad's.

So, all of the... This is so weird, I have no

idea why. All of the heroes were at my mom's,

and all of the villains were at my dad's house.

I have no idea why. I do remember, you know,

bringing different villains back and forth, but

most of the villains stayed at my dad's house

in Rhode Island, and I went there one time to

visit him. I was six years old, this was 1986,

and uh... When in there, it was gone. Everything

just gone. I'm like, where are my toys? You're

too old for toys. I sold them all. I was six

years old. If I still had all of that stuff today

and it was still in, you know, decent enough

condition, I could be frigging rich if I was

going to sell that stuff on eBay. So. There's

that. I was big into the starting lineup figures.

I was big into the McDonald's food changers and

food fighters for the Happy Meal toys. I always

wanted a full set of the Super Looney Tunes McDonald's

Happy Meal toys, but I never actually got a full

set. I only had Bugs and Daffy. And those Happy

Meal toys are, unless you're going to McDonald's

every single day for a month during one of those

runs of toys, you're not gonna be able to get

them all. I remember the only one, I did have

Bugs Daffy and I think I had Wonder Pig too.

I think the only one I was missing was Taz Flash.

My cousin Robbie had that and he would never

let me have it. Little bastard. The other part

of Transformers was I had Blaster. My best friend

Jonathan at the time had Soundwave. Again, the

bastard would never let me play with it. Wouldn't

even let me touch the damn thing. So that was

that. And the rest of it is just a bunch of random

stuff, honestly. I had a few of the James Bond

Jr. figures. I had a few of the Cops and Crooks

figures. I had a number of the Dick Tracy figures.

I had a number of the mask vehicles. I was the

only kid in the neighborhood that actually had

the Boulder Hill playset at the time when that

came out. I had a couple of Captain Planet toys

when those were out as a kid. I didn't have too

much Simpsons stuff I had a lot of Simpsons clothes

when the Simpsons like season 2 and season 3

hits like 90 to 90 through 90 to 92 when it was

like I think they I don't my my parents were

actually really weird and my dad hated that show

and we were not allowed to watch it my dad felt

like He heard some kids say don't have a cow

man and about blew my dad's top He about went

holistic and he informed me and my brother that

we were not allowed to watch that show ever That

was the same thing I went to like my mom would

let me watch anything It surprises me going back

and watching old movies now like a few months

ago I went back and I watched Robocop and I have

not seen the first Robocop in Years it was last

time I saw the first Robocop film was probably

92, 93 and I was 12 or 13 years old at that time.

My mom would let me watch anything. I went back

and I watched Robocop a few months ago. I could

not believe how violent that movie is. Yeah,

because you don't think about that when we're

kids and it's like I just saw the second one

not too long ago and I was like, wow. Yeah. Well,

and when I when I was a kid, you know, I couldn't

watch The Simpsons. But, you know, I watched

Aliens, the second Alien movie, well enough that

I can quote the damn thing. As a kid, I mean,

it was on HBO. I watched it constantly. I could

quote that movie to you. I used to pretend to

be Ripley. You know, at the end of that one,

it's a happily ever after because Ripley lives

and Newt lives and, you know, the one soldier

makes it, you know. And so at the end, so I would

play in my playroom. It was 10 years later and

Newt was all grown up and everything was full.

And then the third one came out, you know, and

kind of ruined my whole life. But Newt died,

Newt died, you know, but still, you know, I mean,

I, I, I, I liked it well enough and watched it

that I played it in my bedroom. So and I'm going,

you know, and I do look back on it and I'm like,

I would never want my kids 10. I might let her

watch it now. You know my parents my parents

never cared I watched fast times or it's mine

high when it came out and Candice has never seen

that movie because her parents wouldn't let her

watch our rated movies to this day She still

has never seen it I've never seen that. I've

never seen Porky's. She has no desire to. I've

seen bits and pieces of Revenge of the Nerds,

but I've never seen her. I've never seen that

movie from beginning to end, I don't think. I

think I've only ever seen Revenge of the Nerds

2 and 3. One of them I saw most of the way, I

think. Yeah. Yeah, but it's so weird, you know,

the Simpsons stuff. My mom would let me watch

that all the time because it was just... Another

part of cartoon culture at that time. I remember

The only place I could watch it was at my mom's

house because when I was with my dad and at the

time my Future stepmother who is now No longer

my stepmother since back in 06. She and my dad

got divorced. So that only lasted 87 to a little

bit less than 25 years You know, so but I remember

it clear as day the premiere Sunday night In

December of 89 when that was New Year's Eve.

I think I think it was New Year's Eve It was

I know it was in December of 89 when the show

first had its first episode on Fox And it was

the Santa's Little Helper episode I sat down

at the TV. I turned it on like oh, hey, what's

this? we were at my stepmother's then her brother's

place and he had a couple of kids and you know

three of us just sat down and watched it and

all of a sudden they're like what are you watching

and they kinda like stood there like for about

five seconds like no you can never watch this

ever again so yeah but My mom won't let me watch

anything. I I believe I remember having Simpsons

toys So I know that there was Simpson toy merchandise

back then because I remember having a Bart man

And all that good stuff, so I I do remember that

um Other toys I had a bunch of board games. I

actually had the Knight Rider board game awesome

it was It's not a Miami of spy hunter From the

NES days, but it was a board game and it was

pretty friggin cool You need to see Mike's profile

page Candice. He has actually has a picture of

him with David Hasselhoff when he was a kid.

Yeah Yeah, when he actually got to meet the man

cool when I was a kid now, you know I lived in

the group have grown up in the Midwest and have

never been anywhere near a celebrity and wouldn't

know what to do with myself if I was and My uncle

had a little black like Subaru or something that

he had bought and would. And it broke down or

something, but he didn't have the money to fix

it. He was still living with his grandma. My

grandma, I think he was in college and my grandma

had this big backyard and the driveway actually

went kind of into the backyard. So he parked

that car in the Middle Lee backyard. And I remember

being a little kid and I would play with the

neighbor girls and we spent even all through

the winter We did this all winter long for some

damn reason We would go get in that car and pretend

that that was the KitKat car because it was the

girl version We didn't call it kit. We called

it KitKat. I don't know why But we used to get

in that car because the first time we did it

It was so warm because you know, it was a black

car and the Sun had been beaten down on it all

day Even in the middle of where it was warm in

there Right, so we did it all the time because

it was warm. We'd sit in there We pretend we

were driving and you know and saving the world

and all in the KitKat car My poor uncle probably

found all kinds of snow and crap in that car

and God only knows what we brought in there He

probably finally got doing what the hell happened

to my car I actually have it's actually funny

that that picture that Bob's talking about part

of that event part of that bought it was the

Boston Budweiser Expo it was David Hasselhoff

was the only one I could remember being there

I know there was other people there but it's

it's kind of like I don't know what kind of car

shows that you guys have out there but here in

Louisville we have Carl Casper's custom auto

show we have Darrell star star bird or whatever

that is that famous guy okay star birds show

right right well you know it was it was it was

one of those types of shows where you'd have

a celebrity and you would have the car there

and and they had the kit car there and this was

in 1986 so this was in the while the fourth season

was on television and i can remember as a kid

you just like and said about it about aliens

i had this season for a night rider i had a line

for lying down every moment of that for the season

as a kid i can remember watching it and part

of the package to get david haselhoff's you know

to get your picture taken an autograph for part

of the you know uh... i don't know what my mom

paid to you know i haven't done or whatever but

part of it was you could sit in the kid car have

your picture taken i'm sitting in the car and

i put a link in the uh... in the chat to the

picture i'm sitting in the car and it took you're

only supposed to sit there for like you know

enough time to get your picture taken you're

supposed to look at the camera well i'm sitting

there for fifteen minutes wanting to just play

with the car i didn't even give a shit about

the picture So, but yeah, I mean, what about

you, Candice? What did you, uh, what kind of

toys did you have growing up and stuff that you

played with? Well, I was a girl. So what are

you now? Barbie girl living in a Barbie girl.

What are you now then? If you was a girl, I was

a bar. I'm a Barbie woman. Thank you. Anyway,

and now for the most part, I had typical girl

toys. I had Barbies. and and undress them and

put them in different clothes all the time mess

with their hair and you know do different things

and just make them look like models and then

I you know and then I put them away in fact my

mom still has my dolls she kept we saved we went

through them when I was about 14 or 15 and I

had these two big boxes of them and she said

okay pick out the four nicest ones that you want

to keep or five And I said, all right. And I

picked up four or five and I said, and I want

to keep all the clothes. She said, okay, that's

fine, but you got to fit it all in this one container.

I said, I can do that. And it is, it's all in

one container. In fact, my daughter plays with

them on occasion when she's at my mom's house.

You still have the gem dolls. And I have the

gem dolls. I had quite a few of the gem dolls

too. I didn't have all of them though. I just

had, I think I had, I had gem, I had pizzazz

and I had Rico. the boy and I had one other band

member I think it was the one with the it was

kimber I think yeah she was she was jim's sister

with the red hair yeah I think it was it kimber

was it the girl with the blue hair I can't remember

which ones I had but I had one of those the band

members yeah and I had a bunch of clothes just

for her too In fact, it's really funny because

I was with my daughter and we were looking at

these gem dolls because it was around the time

that gem and the holograms started playing on

the hub all the time. Right. And so we were at

my mom's house. I said, you need to look at these.

So we got that box out that had these gem dolls

in it and the clothes. And it's really sad because

as I'm pulling out the dolls and the clothes,

I'm going, oh, no, this outfit goes together

here. This is this outfit. I could remember.

And the sad thing was is I'm remembering and

I'm looking and then I'm watching the old episodes

with my daughter on TV later and I'm like, see,

that's that outfit I had, remember? Oh my God,

mom, that's the one you had. Yes, it is. Because

I had all the clothes that they had in the show.

It was really sad. But, you know, that was and

the other thing I had, you talked about Master

of the Universe, I had She -Ra. Yeah. I had the

She -Ra dolls and I had quite a few of them.

And the only Master of the Universe doll I had

was Tila. but every other one I had was She -Ra

and I had all the She -Ra dolls and I mean God

I can't even remember any of them's name but

I had a lot of them I had about seven of them

or eight of them seems like so I can't remember

if I had good guys or bad guys or a mix or what

seemed like I had one seems like I had one that

had a cat tail or cat look too yeah that's Catra

yeah yeah I remember her and I remember a blue

girl unfortunately Probably, yeah, that sounds

right. And I can't remember what else I had,

but I had She -Ra, you know, and I loved my little

She -Ra dolls. But the only other thing I had

really was I was a Star Wars fan. And when Return

of the Jedi came out, it's actually kind of funny.

When I was, when, we never had went to the movies

with my family. I can count on one hand how many

times I've been to the movies with my family.

You know, that's just something that we didn't

do. We had a very tight budget, and that was

just something that we didn't go do. You know,

we got HBO, so eventually get on HBO. Well, when

Star Wars and New Hope came on HBO, you know

how they do it. They'll have it on once at the

end of the month in like one month, then the

next month they'll have it on 33 ,000 times.

Well, I watched probably 29 of those 32 ,000

times that it was on. I could quote it within

60 days of seeing it for the first time, I could

quote that movie to you. And you know, and I'm

like seven, maybe, well, maybe nine, you know,

I'm like seven or nine, you know, I'm pretty

young, you know, and I'm quoting this movie to

you and I've seen it, you know, on HBO as many

times as it was on, I knew every turn, every

bit of it. And I loved that movie. Well, around

that time, to tell you when this was, it was

not, it was around the same time that Return

of the Jedi came out in the theaters, maybe three,

four months later. It came out in the theaters.

Well, my dad, because he loved his daughter,

took me and my brother to go see Return of the

Jedi. Not having seen Empire Strikes Back, didn't

realize there was another movie in there. Uh

-oh. me to see Return of the Jedi, which was,

you know, honestly, probably for me, if you'd

have taken me to see an Empire after seeing the

first one and being such a high and then took

me to see Empire, I probably would have been

depressed for weeks, you know, because it would

have been such a sad ending and I would have

been crying and, you know, and all that. So it's

probably a good thing that I saw Return of the

Jedi before I ever saw Empire. But what's funny

is I have About that times when I started collecting

Star Wars toys. Well all the Star Wars toys I

have for the most part are all from Return of

the Jedi or Empire Strikes Back Like I have Empire

Leia from Bespin. I Have Vader I have a Yoda

I have the c3po that comes apart Right there

with all the legs and the legs legs in the head

and it came with the bag And I don't know if

I still have that little rubber bag it came with

that went on Chewbacca's back, but I had a Chewbacca

You know and it was like I mom would buy those

packs from JCPenney's where it had one cool character

and then the four little characters that you

can't even remember who they're named who they

are You know, you know she used to get those

for me and Was the bounty hunter I had Leia investment

I had Leia on On indoor I think those were the

three I had They didn't make Slave Leia, I'd

have got that one too. Yeah, I don't think, you

know, toy standards and practices would allow

Slave Leia back then. Yeah, I know, which was

too bad. But, you know, I would have gotten that.

And I wouldn't have thought of me anything about

it being sexy or anything like that. I would

have just been like, it's Leia, I have to have

it because I love her. Of course, Leia was the

only girl in the entire series of trilogy of

movies. Well, she wasn't the only girl in the

original trilogy because you did have Aunt Peru,

but she was the main star, yes. You had Aunt

Peru, you had Mon Montha, but you did not have

a major player. She was the only major player

that was a girl. Yeah. And that's what I connected

with as a kid. Right. And so, you know, she was,

you know, that's who I connected with. And so

I had all the Leia dolls. I don't even think

I had a Luke Skywalker. Which is really sad,

but I should have had a Luke Skywalker But and

I don't think I had a Han Solo either no, I think

I did have a Luke because I remember he lost

his lightsaber out of his hand and So he just

looks like he has a gun on the end And I had

a Ben Kenobi Oh, I had old Ben Kenobi I remember

because I took the rubber cloth off of him because

I lost something on one of my Leia dolls and

so I used that as a pattern and like cut Leia

other jackets to wear with the thin Kenobi one.

I was that kid. My Leia had sleeping bags, she

had pillows, she had all these little crafty

things that I would make her because I wanted

her to have accessories that they didn't make.

No, but that was about it though. I mean I really

didn't have Too much I mean those were the things

that I think I collected Looking back. I wish

I had saved a little bit more those especially

one of the original toys I had was I had an original

Boba Fett And now his rocket didn't come out.

He wasn't the good original Boba Fett Yeah, he

wasn't the prototype. No, he wasn't the prototype

cool one where the rocket actually came out.

Yeah. Unfortunately, but I did have an original

Boba Fett. But for the most part, though, I think

that was, you know, I just didn't I would love

to have still had some I have some of my Star

Wars toys, but, you know, they're not in the

greatest of shape. You know, they're just not.

In fact, I think Bob did a Didn't you do a review

of... I have the original C -3PO and R2 -D2 that

I had. And then he got out the ones that they

did for episode 1 because we had bought them

and we had two of each one. And so he went ahead

and opened the packages of those because we have

a whole bunch of toys that are in package now.

Star Wars toys. We just have like boxes of them.

Yeah, we'll get into that a little bit later.

Yes. When we get up to your home, my dream is

to have a nerd room and it's going to be all

the box toys are going to come out and be put

up on shelves and look really not really cool,

I hope. I have a vision. But anyway, he did a

review on that and the difference in the quality

of what they look like, you know, and when you're

looking at them in, you know, the 80s, you're

thinking, these are awesome. Oh, my God. They're

like the R2D2 when you look at the old one and

then you look at the new one. It doesn't even

look like R2 -D2. It is the saddest rendition.

I think a 10 -year -old could have made a better

version of R2 -D2. It was scary. It was really

scary. Bob, you're going to need to find that

because I'm not allowed to touch my keyboard

because it sounds horrible through the microphone.

Find what? Oh, find the video? Yeah, find the

video and link it up for him. But no, it's just...

scary how inaccurate those dolls were. But, you

know, those are probably, but still be neat to

have more of this stuff I had. And I had the

Ewok Village in Jabba the Hutt. Oh, wow. I had

the Ewok Village and the Ewok Village was cool

because you put in one of the trees, three trees,

and one of the trees, if you put a character

in it, it came out and slid out the bottom. It

was a slide. So you put them in the top and they'd

slide out and be on the bottom. It had a net

that you could put underneath and you pull the

string and it'd catch whoever you put on it,

you know. And it had one that was like a little

house. And I don't remember what the... I think

the third one was just decoration. But yeah,

I remember the one had the slide and I used to

have... That slide was awesome. I loved that.

That was so funny. And then the Jabba the Hutt.

I don't know. Did you ever see the Jabba the

Hutt from the 80s? Yeah. Yeah. You know, what

cracked me up was, you know... they had the he

was sitting on this thing that you could open

up but it wasn't like a trap door so instead

of the doors going down they opened all the way

up so i'm like how could this be even as a kid

i was like well that's not a trap door because

they can avoid that because they'd open up and

out instead of down oh yeah and up and out instead

of down into inside and even as a kid i was like

that's just stupid I used to call that Jabba's

poop pit because I wouldn't put my characters

and my toys in it because I was like that's stupid

that even anybody would know to walk around that

you know wouldn't capture anybody so I called

it that's where Jabba went to the bathroom oh

my god that's oh god I thought it was even as

a kid I thought that was stupid That was ridiculous.

They should have slid apart. You should have

been able to pull them through from the outside

or something. But they did. They opened up. They

opened up and out instead of down and in or pulled

apart or something. So it wasn't what it was

supposed to be. So I just thought it was stupid.

Yeah. What about you, Bob? What did you have

growing up? What toys, lines, or toys were you

interested in having to play with? I know this

is gonna sound weird, but like the first thing

I started collecting was like Muppet toys, and

I don't know I'm 39 years old so back when the

Muppet show was still on the air They I can't

remember who makes them, but they were like little

action figures yeah, and Dang it. I've been looking

for it, and I can't find it Anyway, I started

out with those and then I got into the GI Joe's

because My dad was a big wrestling fan like WWF

back then and then when sergeant slaughter went

with GI Joe and He was on the team I kind of

it was kind of like a crossover thing and then

I I got sergeant slaughter figure of the GI Joe

and It kind of led into I had to buy more GI

Joe's to go with the certain slaughter and you

know, I had I had all the the vehicles and everything

And then I kind of got bored with that. So where

I lived in Pennsylvania, there's a place called

the Green Dragon, which is like a flea market.

And every Friday, my dad would take us there

and I'd pick up Transformer. And this is back

in the 80s. So I think my very first ones were

the aerial bots to make, you know, Superion.

Yeah, because I was really I loved him. I don't

know why what drove me to him Because I didn't

never had a transformer before and they had the

whole set right there And then every week from

then on it was somebody different, you know Optimist

and every week it was somebody different and

I wish I'd still have all that stuff But I have

a story kind of like yours I went to school one

day I came home and I was Went into my room and

I was like, hey, wait a minute. Where's all my

stuff? and my dad sold it at a yard sale. So,

that kind of lost my childhood there. And then,

right after I lost everything, I started going,

okay, Transformers, I was getting a little bit

older, so I started Ninja Turtles. And I had

all the Ninja Turtles, and that was my babies.

And then I've had them, and I had them, and I

moved. I grew up, got out of school. And just

without you know moving around and stuff. I lost

them somewhere But yeah, I was in a kind of a

haze so I wouldn't really know where they went

anyway So I don't know that's that's kind of

like what started me into it And then I stopped

collecting for a very very very long time Yeah,

and till we pretty much had kids, and then I

never really looked at toys because you know

I'm an adult Whatever. No, but me and Candice,

we did our Star Wars thing, so we both had something

in common. So before we had kids, we went out,

you know, when episode one came out, we seen

the toys and it was like, well, that'd be kind

of cool. And that's kind of what got us back

into it, at least me. And then, you know, having

kids now, you know, that brings us up to toys

nowadays and why I do what I do now. Which we

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gets frozen, take away by Boba Fett, it ends

on such a down note. I mean, that's what life

is, a series of down endings. All Jedi had was

a bunch of Muppets. So now we move on to toy

collecting today, and I think I'll go first because

I get into it very late. I... I think pretty

much after I was 14 or 15 I was done with toys.

at the time and I've told this part of my story

before as well by the time I was 15 I was awarded

the state of Kentucky and I was moving around

from foster home to foster home to you know different

group homes and all that crap so toys were the

very furthest thing from my mind by the time

I was 14 -15 years old I did not even get back

into toys until I was 28 back in 2008 I spent

And I wish I learned my lesson now back then.

I think there was only one other thing I had

bought on eBay back in 2006. I bought one of

those Korean -made FC Twins. What it is, is it's

a combination video game system. It takes NES

and Super NES and puts them into one system.

So you have two different ports, whether it's

NES games or SNES games. I bought that off eBay.

I bought, I think at the time I bought an old

classic Game Boy, but that was pretty much my

beginnings with eBay. And then in 2008, I had

the, I don't know, from, you know, starting to

listen to podcasts and other stuff, I started

listening to CFY, and they were talking about

the, you know, the Transformers toys, and it

really got me thinking, oh, I want my childhood

back. And at the time I was working for this

company where I was essentially a... live -in

security guard, essentially like an apartment

manager type of deal. And they essentially paid

me a salary and also gave me free rent. So I

essentially had oodles of extra money coming

in besides what bills I had to pay, which was

pretty much small amounts of stuff. And I decided

one night that I would go shopping on eBay. for

five figures Soundwave Blaster G1 Galvatron which

friggin sucked because it was the Hasbro version

and not the Takara version the Hasbro version

of G1 Galvatron is that Garish grayish bluish.

It's not even color accurate to the film So Soundwave

Blaster Galvatron all the cassettes that I liked

and g one up to eighty eight four of us those

five different things i spent a total of fifteen

hundred or breaking the word uh... yeah uh...

sound wave blaster and optimus some of them blaster

or three hundred and some dollars each and uh...

optimus was actually a pretty good steel it uh...

it was he was a hundred twenty five in the case

all the different sets ended up being like uh...

Somewhere around a hundred two hundred dollars

total Say I spent fifteen hundred dollars on

five transformers to get my childhood back of

course since then I've learned my lesson obviously

But no, that's what got me started into toy collecting

and I you know I started you know Going into

the toy aisles at my local Target and Walmart

and I started getting back into transformers

And that's really where where it will where it

kind of laid and I started seeing These masters

classics videos online. I think I think Paul

was one of the first ones that I saw And then

I you know obviously since the only one that

really does them anymore now is pixel Dan I switched

over to watching his stuff, and I really got

back into Masters I Watched a series on YouTube

called superhero mugs this guy Jason Henry I

did stop motion with Mighty Mugs, mostly the

Marvel Universe ones that they made. So I then

went on a huge spending spree of Mighty Mugs.

I think I had a total of 90 different Mighty

Mugs. I had all the Transformers ones. I had

all the G .I. Joe ones. I had a good portion

of the Marvel ones, but I didn't have them all,

and I had just started getting into the Star

Wars Mighty Mugs. and you know I kept collecting

kept collecting you know I would get I got a

lot of the war for Cybertron stuff a listener

sent me a war for Cybertron Megatron you know

I had all this stuff and I then because of other

life circumstances was between 2010 and late

2011 I moved like three or four different times

within the same city because of the HUD program

that I'm in and and it was just like I don't

want to have to keep lugging these boxes everywhere

and just keeping these toys in storage and all

this stuff and everything else and I was like

you know what I had some financial hard times

hit me because by this time I'm not working at

the company anymore so the extra money wasn't

coming in so I'm like yeah I just don't need

them anymore I sold my entire toy collection

Then I wanted to get back into it. I thought

getting a and people know my Bob knows where

this is going people know my My opinions on Maddie

scalper calm right now But I thought getting

the 2012 club subscription for Masters universe

classics would have you know Really got me back

into you know having a toy collection, and it

actually drove me out of collecting Well, not

the toys in Matty collector. Oh, right. No digital.

We're not not the actual toys but dealing with

Matty collector .com and digital river. That's

what drove me out of collecting because it was

just a huge nightmare the whole point of that

of that subscription model that they have at

that website is You're supposed to be able to

you know your order supposed to be really smooth

it's supposed to just go through automatically

they'll charge your card and send you your figure

well half the time we wouldn't get our figures

until after the on sale date and then it would

be three weeks after the on sale date that anyone

would get anything from that website so that's

that's really the the whole logistical nightmare

that is mattycollector .com drove me out of toy

collecting I thought the classic Ninja Turtles

was gonna get me back into it those look amazing

I would love to have those but at the same time

I Honestly have no idea if and when the program

is gonna move me again I've been in my current

apartment over a year now, so that's that's good,

but I've heard rumors that our Leases up soon

or not soon soon, but like you know by the end

of this year or something like that So I don't

know and just you know after dealing with all

that crap, I just got out of toys. But when I

was collecting, I absolutely loved it. I loved

getting different, all the different Transformers

characters that I had and all that stuff. So

what about you, Candace? What do you collect

now? Well, I have a, I obviously collect Star

Wars toys and some of them are You know, the

ones I got into collecting, I didn't want the

typical Star Wars, you know, out of the box,

you know, the two feet, the little, what are

they? How tall are those? Five inch figures?

Four inch figures? The little ones? Like the

regular ones, Bob? I don't know. Those three

and three quarter ones? Yeah. Yeah. Is that what

they are? I don't even know. Yeah, they're classic.

Yeah. The classic size I had really not a whole

lot that I didn't really want to do that and

I discovered at comic we went to a comic -con

I think in 2007 was it Sound right to you. Yeah

2006 2007 we went and I discovered Yes, it was

wizard world. Sorry not comic -con. Forgive me.

Um But we went to that and if we discover I discovered

a Star Wars unleashed dolls Oh, I love these

suckers there be I I love them. They're all there

and I I have Do I what I have ten of them eight

of them two three four five six? Anyway, they're

beautifully sculpted. I have ten of them. They're

beautifully sculpted I so wish we had bought

that Leia slave Leia one we've never bought kicking

myself in the gut for not pick I know we should

have picked that up when we had it and we kept

on an Or a sing and there's no I don't remember

seeing an or a sing Darth Maul The Darth Maul

was the one we didn't pick up. I don't remember

seeing or seeing but yeah, they had but Yeah,

we went to that and I discovered these and they

they are just such beautifully crafted I just

love them. I have a Django with the young Boba

Fett. I have Obi -Wan Kenobi from episode two,

Obi -Wan Kenobi from episode three. I have Han

in Stormtrooper gear from episode four. I have,

you know, several others. I have a great Darth

Vader that I just love. I have Luke Skywalker

in his Hoth. Not the, when he was out in the

wind, when he's flying the speeders and stuff,

the orange jumpsuit. Yeah, I have that. I have

a couple, I have a couple of other Jedi's and

different things and a couple of bounty hunters

and things. But they're really, I just love them.

Oh, I have an Anakin from episode three and an

Obi -Wan from episode three and the Anakin and

Obi -Wan are supposed to actually lock together.

When you take them out of the package, they'll

lock together like they're fighting and there's

like lava squirting up all around them. And I've

never actually taken it out of the package to

see how good it looks. Bob keeps asking me if

he can to do reviews, and I won't let him. But

as far as collecting, but other than that, like

my actual Star Wars collection, like I said,

Bob said we bought a bunch of episode two. We

have a bunch of prequel toys in package. We do.

He says they're mine, but they're just as much

his as they are mine. But the only other Star

Wars collection that I have is I have a lot of

the books that were written Starting in and I

can't remember the year. I want to say mid 90s

They started releasing what happened after episode

four five and six what happened following that

these books and I have To give you an example

of how far these books go they start the first

one. I have starts the day after Return of Jedi

or two days after returning Jedi and it goes

the ones I have go through Let's see Han and

Leia are married they have three kids and their

kids are Teenagers or young adults now. I know

the series goes on further than that But I don't

have I kind of stopped after a while. I I mean

what I really would like to do is sit down with

my with a with a Calendar or whatever it is and

and figure out what books I don't have and start

trying to find some of the ones I don't have

But I and I've read every one of them several

times in fact I would get a new one and I would

make myself go back to the beginning and start

at the beginning and read them all and Just read

them all in sequence again. I Did and there's

some I can quote you. Yeah, I've read them so

many times, but I Though I have all those books.

I have the original episodes one two and three

in I have one two three four five and six all

in books because when episode one came out they

released four variant covers of episode one in

book form I have all four covers I have um um

episode two episode three which let me tell you

when you read episode three in book form the

guy who wrote it did an excellent job And when

you read it, you know, people kind of make fun

of the way Hayden Christensen portrayed Anakin

Skywalker. My brother calls him the robot. And,

you know, they just didn't think he was a great

actor. He didn't pull it off. I read the book

before I saw the movie because the book came

out about six weeks before the movie or four

weeks before the movie. So I read the book first.

Right. So when I went in there, I was like the

gal in the corner with like boxes of Kleenexes

balling all the way. Because I read the book

and I knew what was going on in so much greater

detail that you just can't bring out in the movie.

You can't bring out the internal thoughts. All

you can do is have them look like they're constipated

on the screen and hope it gets the point across.

And there's so much more that's in those books

because they're based on the actual screenplays.

Yeah. And so as a result, they're real interesting

reads. But I like my book collection really,

really well. It sits in a prominent spot in my

living room, and I am completely proud of that.

I don't care who you are. You come over and make

fun of Star Wars. I'll be pissed. But that's

my big collection of things. I mean aside from

that. I'm a very voracious reader anyway So I

mean I have books everywhere all the time I have

boxes of books in this house My poor husband

cannot wait till we move and I can put all my

books in one room and get through the hell away

from him What's funny is I read all these Star

Wars books most of the books I read are romance

novels Except for my Star Wars Yeah, it's it

I just and and and this box of books from tour

that we got I I've already read two of the books

in it and I you know I picked up a third one

and I I'm I'm not sure about it yet I'm gonna

maybe look and see if something else sounds better

first It said I have already read a couple books

in there and I I enjoy science fiction periodically,

but I like I enjoy romance too, so No, I know

because Bob told me. I know that it was staged,

but that very first Forced Unleashed video, when

I saw that, I was like, oh my God, he's in trouble.

What? Oh, the one where I told him not to do

that? Yes. It was kind of staged because he told

me, he said, wouldn't it be funny if I said something

about opening this and you come say, I don't

think so. He was serious, but I He was joking

around, but I was dead serious. He kind of looked

at me and he blinked for a second before he said

anything like, holy crap, she really thinks I'm

going to open this. Hell hath no fury like a

woman scorned for Star Wars. Exactly. And I have

like odd Star Wars toys. People give me these

weird little things. I have an Obi -Wan Kenobi

watch from Avon in the box. Do I don't know where

somebody found it's actually really cool My mom

and dad got it for you for Christmas wasn't your

was it your parents who got it for me. It's really

cool it's really it's a nice leather strap and

and But I won't take it out of the box because

I don't want to break it because I tend to destroy

watches but it's it's Obi -Wan Kenobi and the

the lightsaber is the minute hand or the hour

hand I can't remember. Anyways, this lightsaber

blade and is the is the hand it's one of the

hands it's really just it sounds tacky as hell

but it's actually really cool looking i was really

surprised at how um and how cool it looked because

it just sounds tacky because there's so many

things i found as a star wars fan and i you know

if i see a little star wars thing here there

and i pick up stuff he just thinks god some of

this shit is so tacky Well, I mean, that's something

we'll get into here in a second after Bob tells

us what he collects, but that's the thing, it's

like, all these different franchises, no matter

what franchise it is, and you take any franchise,

whether it's Star Wars, whether it's Knight Rider,

whether it's, you know, Hee Haw, whatever, the

merchandising is out the ass because they, between

lunchboxes, watches, books, toys, video game,

all this stuff, it's like, It's a merchandising

empire. So what about you, Bob? What do you collect

these days? What I'm collecting right now? Let's

see. I was into Transformers there for a while.

I got into this kick right after the movies and

all that stuff that I found off the bottom of

Paul's reviews and stuff. I went to the store

and I picked one up and I was like, I haven't

touched a Transformer in so many years. And then

I wanted to get a couple of the jazzes, like

the animated jazz. A couple? Well, that's what

it started with. And then as my phone goes off.

And then I got the reissue jazz, the G1 version,

which I love because now it's like having the

old jazz back again. Like you were saying, Mike,

about having your childhood back. That was one

of my things and I scored it and then I started

getting the Prime figures and I really just lost

steam in those. I really just don't care about

Transformers anymore because this new fall of

Cybertron, the game that's out, I've watched

the reviews. Hasbro is just horrible and I'm

not even interested in it anymore. And then let's

see, on my second shelf down... Is my ghostbusters

the Maddie collector? Ghostbusters I don't I

stop myself. I didn't get 15 different repaints

to the same freaking figure I I got the four,

you know, and I got I got the Santa hats No,

I got the Comic -con version of Egon when it

came out a couple years ago. It was the slime

version of Egon that you can only get at Comic

Con. And then I got the slime version of Peter.

And then I got the Winston that's the slime blower

from episode two, or from the second movie. And

then I got Ray that is in the lab coat. And I'm

happy. And Paul actually sent me the bank Stay

Puft Marshmallow Man. And I had the PKE meter,

which stays in the box. I had just found the

Slimer at a yard sale. It's the real Ghostbusters

Slimer that you push his arm in and his mouth

opens and his eyes bug out. I was thrilled about

that. And then, I don't know, I got Michelangelo

from the 90s, from the 25th anniversary that

came out in the early 90s. I got that the classic

figure of that and I got two more coming. I actually

got April and Shredder still in package coming

to me. Hopefully because I we got the hook up

here in town. There's a classic toy company kind

of sort of they they can get you pretty much

any toy you want So they have a bunch of stuff.

They have like silver Hawk and and you know,

I can go up for hours about what all the toys

they have. Yeah And then we got what on the next

shelf down is like our Buffy Firefly kind of

collection. We have they're like ornaments. You

can't call it a collection. They were gifts.

Well, they were gifts, but they're collectible

gifts because they're not just random things

you can buy in a store pretty much anymore. Well,

this is true. They're like ornaments of Serenity

of the ship from Firefly and there's a regular

version in a Reaver version. I don't know if

any you know Mike you you don't watch that Firefly

do you long time since I've seen Firefly version

is from actually from the movie they make called

Serenity. Okay. Yeah short version they have

to hide and they disguise their ship to look

like a Reavers which Reavers are like the cannibalistic

crazy men live out in the booties and scare everybody

in eat everybody's face off and so they make

their ship look like that to hide from The numerous

bad guys that are chasing me down Right. Yeah,

and we got a bunch of that and we are Just Wheaton

signed DVD copy of Firefly And what you have

a couple spike figures don't yes Yeah, we got

I got to miss got me two spikes Yeah, I have

one of them is signed by the artist that created

it. I think yeah, I believe he's the artist who

created it that signed it and She got me that

as a as a gift a Few years ago, and I have so

I have two busts of spike Because I like spikes

she was an angel person so she'd buy herself

angel and if there was spikes she'd buy me a

spike Yeah, so I've got a couple of spikes. Well,

actually she was a Xander an angel, you know,

she left Xander but she liked angel and So I

got so when they she'd stumble across spikes

she'd get me a spike Because she went and still

does I believe go to a lot of the comic book

conventions and things I know those are done.

Those, Bob, you can take out a packaging review.

Oh, no, no, no. I wouldn't do that. I blame smile

time for me wanting a Puppet Angel. I actually

investigated Puppet Angel to see if there were

any that, you know, any toy company actually

ever made. There are, but... The problem is the

price tag on them. Oh, I'm sure they're horribly

expensive. I know the price tag is warranted

because of how they're made, and they have all

this articulation and everything else, but $400

for a Puppet Angel. We win the lottery, Bob.

We got to buy one of those for her. Oh, yeah.

That is a great episode. It's one of my favorites.

I think if we win the lottery, we'll just buy

like four or five of those and just give them

to all of our friends. We can have a YouTube

contest. There we go. Anyway, what's on the bottom

shelf? It's just a hodgepodge of stuff. I've

been finding weird stuff at yard sales lately.

Vintage classic WWE wrestlers. Like, the ones

that were big bricks of, like, just rubber. No

articulation, no movements at all. They're just

a big block of rubber. That looks like Hawk Hogan

or Macho Man Savage. I got a whole bunch of those.

What else? Oh, I got the... It's almost like

a LEGO version. DeLorean. And Doc Brown. Mini

-Mates, or whatever they were called. Yeah. Something

like that. I got some of the ghostbuster ones

of those too, but Yeah Yeah, and you have the

but with the kids now, um, and you have Batman

stuff too. Oh, yeah, I guess I got some Arkham

Arkham City Batman DC direct stuff. Um, but with

the kids like I was saying earlier Brandon our

son he's four. He really likes the Transformers

bot shots Yeah, so um, you know, it's kids and

him and my daughter were bashing them into each

other They're kind of out of it now But he also

likes the rescue bots. He still plays with those

Yeah, they're right up his alley. I mean he loves

heatwave and bumblebee and Optimist is the three

we have because you can't find any of them because

every time I go to the store You cannot find

rescue bots. I don't know if they just not making

them or they're just so many people are buying

them You can't find it. Well considering that

there's some of your more popular videos your

yeah ones I'm sure it's because people are buying

them. Oh, yeah, they got thousands of hits on

the reviews I did on YouTube or normal I get

a hundred, you know, it's like So people must

like them. And like I said, my son, he loves

them. Those simple transformers. Oh, yeah. And

they're perfect for little kids. And then what?

Chrissy's starting to collect Monster High dolls

that are a piece of crap because the legs fall

off. Thank you, Matty. Well, actually not Matty

Mattel. Yeah. OK. Right where her crotch is.

Her legs aren't on ball joints or anything. Remember

the old G .I. Joe's that had the nylon rope cord

thing in their stomachs? Their legs were actually

attached to their upper with that cord. That's

how their legs are put together. There's a cord

going from the left leg to the right leg and

then it slides up and in like her crotch would

open in the middle like there would be a front

and a back. And then it goes up into the leg

joints and then they seal it shut But the other

day hers actually popped out her or my daughter's

the legs on her one figure popped out and Didn't

you go and look on YouTube Candice about and

I guess it's a big problem with monster high

figure It's not that they pop out. It's that

the elastic in them actually breaks. Oh The elastic

in them will actually break ours didn't actually

break It just came out of her crotch. It came

out. Probably she was probably making the doll

do the splits or something. And it popped out.

But anyway, I paid $35 for a freaking doll that

the legs are popping off because of the cheap

nylon cord that they're putting them in. Instead

of using ball joints like normal people would.

Yes, but fortunately it took me I worked on it

for two days trying to fix it and I couldn't

do it and Chrissy didn't want to tell her dad

because she He she knew what a fit he would throw

when he saw that because I would just blame Maddie

the whole time I wouldn't get mad at her, you

know He was mad at her. So she didn't want to

tell anybody. I would have never got a matter

and then sadly You know, so she doesn't want

to tell dad so she's upset So I'm in the bedroom

trying to fix it and I can't get it and I'm like

Chris I don't know what we're gonna do and he

comes in he goes what are you doing in here and

He sees me with the doll Body in one hand legs

in the other I was like, what did you do to her

doll? And she's like I didn't do anything. It

was it just fell apart. And so Bob takes one

look at it Walks in the other room girl gets

a tool come back. Boom. Boom. Boom. It's fixed

I got a pair of needle -nose pliers, shoved it

in where the ball hinge would be in her leg,

and pried it open so her crotch actually came

apart, and then just slid the rope back up in

there. This all sounds so kinky and wrong right

now. But I'm just Monster High. I mean, everybody

seems like collecting it. But you know what?

Emgo's wife's doing reviews, and Pixel Dance

putting up reviews of Monster High. But you know

what? I was looking at online. Or not online.

I'm sorry. I was looking at him in the store.

You know, they have those make your own monster

sets Those aren't those aren't those elastic

strips Those are ball joints because you pop

those hips in because you can put different it's

you get a torso And you remember I told you the

first ones I saw they had one torso and two sets

of legs and two sets of arms the new ones now

have two torsos in them so you can make two characters

in one of those packages but I was looking at

them and the legs they pop in like they have

a kind of a ball joint thing and they just snap

in so they then those they're not doing them

that way because probably because you couldn't

assemble them that way if they were but because

the nylon rope break all the time yeah but Found

that real interesting. Yeah, that was something

I thought was quite a ripoff They have these

kits where you can make your own monster and

they had two heads two hair two sets of hair

two heads two arms two legs Shoot, you know all

that stuff. They have doubles of everything,

but they had one torso in those packages Wow

and and two outfits you could put multiple outfit

you had different outfits to choose from or mix

and match or whatever You had to buy two sets

to get two dolls and I thought and for like you

have four heads Yeah, and then you would have

like four heads and so it was I was like that

is such a ripoff And then I noticed when we went

and looked when she went to cash in that gift

card We were looking at him and I realized they

had two torsos in there now Maybe I don't know

if I saw some funky ones or if when they first

issued him They didn't only put one torso and

I don't know but they had two torsos in the new

ones Mike what? You'll be happy pixel Dan just

put up the video review of laser lot They have

such bad names man I I mean I watched he man

and I'm sure Candice watched it near cuz her

brother was into it their names are just They're

not they're just here here. Here's the sir bird

man. He looks like a bird on hold on Yes, a lot

of the names and masters the universe are are

weird, but the thing was sir laser lot is Mattel

wanted to homage the Create a Character contest

with this 30th anniversary line that is separate

from the 2012 subscription. And there is six

figures that are made, Sir Laser Lot, Drago Man,

Mighty Spector, and other ones I don't remember

the names of off the top of my head since I'm

not looking at the information. Sir Laser Lot

was Geoff Johns' figure that he created as a

kid. It's essentially Superman with He -Man muscles.

That's really all it is. Nice. But yeah, no.

I don't know. It's, you know, like I was saying

earlier, like all these franchises that we have

grown up on and loved, the merchandising is just

everywhere. It you know it just is and it's it's

amazing It reminds me of space balls the movie

space balls the towels baseballs the you know

The action figure space balls the blanket. Yeah

The toilet paper yeah, how many things can seriously

George Lucas put Star Wars on? I'm waiting for

Star Wars condoms myself. They have them. I've

seen them and it says, Luke, I am not your father.

And it's a picture of Darth Vader. They have

them. I have not seen those. Oh my God. I have

to have them. I'll find that picture for you

and send it to you on Facebook. Oh my God. Luke,

I am not your father or something like that.

I have to have that just for the novelty of it

because that's freaking funny. But seriously,

what are they going to have next? You know, like

Star Wars the... douche bottle or something who

knows what you know like I yeah I went I went

a little bit too far sorry it's just I don't

I don't know what where do you stop and where

do you start yeah I don't know but if you think

about it merchandising a lot of times they make

their money on the merchandising yeah also the

merchandising Star Wars has been is it been around

since 1977 Yeah. Okay. And didn't he sell a lot

of the movie just to keep the rights to the merchandising?

I don't know. Oh, there was some screwy thing

that he did that nobody ever got. He's like,

go ahead, take all the money you want from the

movie. I just want all the rights to the merchandise.

Yeah, he kept all the rights to merchandising,

which they didn't think would be an issue. They're

like, yeah, who's going to buy toys from a movie

that nobody's even going to go watch? No, it's

what I was gonna say was the thing about merchandise

is that movies been around since 1977 and I can

you know, that's 30 a Shoot That's 35 years.

It's been around a really long time So if you

think about the people who saw it and fell in

love with it 35 years ago are getting older now

So the the merchandising has shifted lot if you'll

you know it's not just focused I mean granted

this still merchandise it's focused for children

but the merchandise has also shifted to have

stuff like a Darth Vader condom that is focused

for the adult market for people who want to hang

on to their childhood who want to have those

memories who want to have that so there's a lot

more you know when I was a kid you would never

find an adult shirt that had Star Wars on it

It was all kids' clothes. Now, frick, you go

to any kind of tee place, any kind of t -shirt

place that's got, there's going to be Star Wars

t -shirts there for adults. 80s, tees, T -Fury,

all that stuff, yeah. And that's the thing, it's

like, well now, because we're all, you know,

all the children of the 80s are grown up, they

still want to cater to us because they know that

we love... What was out in our child? I mean,

you know same thing with Hollywood where you

know Hollywood recap tries to recapture stuff

that happened. You know you got total recall

coming out another You know remake of that you

got Oh God What else you know there was the Failed

attempt at a Knight Rider TV series reboot. You

know, there's there's all these things that that

has already happened that were great back then

and we you know we growing up with them loving

them and still love them now that they want to

you know hollywood non -stop wants to cash in

on another are some things that are done very

well you take uh... take tnt's dallas it's essentially

a continuation of the original series with you

know had a sense of ross and and jet instead

of having the battle be jr and bobby it's john

ross versus christopher uh... for for the main

story line but you still have larry hagman there

even though you know he looks he is anxious all

hell you know you still have here me his eyebrows

scare me jerry i have nightmares about those

eyebrows man but i mean you know you know you

have successes like that but half the time when

hollywood does something to me like when they

do something in my eyes that Is trying to recapture

the 80s it just doesn't Sometimes it's like with

the new ninja turtles. Um, you know It's like

they've tried and tried and tried but they're

kind of going back They just to look at him is

kind of the classic look and stuff. It's gonna

get people that are our age Back in the ninja

turtles. I'm already got the bug. I cannot wait

to those things come out Yeah, and not the class.

I help me but the new ones they're only eight

dollars apiece. Yeah Get off my back. Well, the

new ones with the new animated series. But they

look awesome. Yeah, they do. They do. And the

classic Turtles look great as well. Playmates

knows how to do it. They've had the Turtles license

for years, and they know how to do Turtles figures.

And sure, there have been some really, really

wacky Turtles figures over the years. But with

the new animated series coming up, I know some

people aren't going to like the animation style.

That's all well and good. But I mean. You know,

you've got... It's gotta be better than, uh,

um, Thundercats did. Cause that was horrible.

I... I like Thundercats for what it was. I just

think it was just mishandled. uh... yeah uh...

it was so mishandled because and it wasn't the

one of the reasons why i was mishandled because

band i just completely dropped the bullet okay

so it's not a horrible to you know i i will say

you know a bunch of negative stuff on logistics

of of matty collector and and did you ever but

i can't say anything against scott toy guru nightly

and his promotion of that line of what what they

are making for Masters Classics because that

dude is PR -ing the hell out of that line. He's

always giving us updates on the Mattel Online

toy lines, all that stuff. Bandai, you ask them

just a general question of, hey, can you give

us a preview of what's coming up with Thundercats?

And they just say, we're not allowed to discuss

that at that time. Or make a mum -raw that actually

stands upright by himself. Right, yeah. I mean,

it was just - Oh, that's another thing. With

the dolls right now? Yeah. Like, Chrissy's Monster

High dolls, and - Her Winx Club. And her Winx

Club doll? Yeah. Which is her new thing. She's

probably gonna want to get all of those damn

things. Yeah. Anyway, um, none of them will stand

on their own. Yeah. The Monster High ones actually

come with stands to snap onto their waists. Right.

So they can stand up. But they don't, of course,

Bob made a comment when we were talking about

it. He said, you know, none of these dolls stand.

I said, I know they don't. And he goes, but you

know, Barbies don't stand. I said, this is true,

but Barbies came with stands too. They had, most

Barbies came with some kind of, it was basically

a shin clamp stand thing that you put Barbie

in and it clamped around the back of her shin

and it would hold her up. Yeah, most of the time

it also was a great projectile to throw at your

brother when he was bothering him your plan Well,

you know you mentioned earlier that you had a

lot of the gem dolls as well and even those are

making a comeback now I have not seen new gem

dolls. Yeah, it was 100 wasn't it 150 bucks it

it was $125 That's right, you told me that there

was the new one yeah Yeah, she had I don't even

remember seeing it. I Don't think you ever showed

it to me. I think you just told me about it Yeah,

I didn't know if you'd even want to see it. You're

normally I'd want to see But you know the old

dolls cracked me up because the gem dolls in

the old ones When she was in her regular, what

was her name Jenna? When she was Jerika, she

had a short blonde bob that stopped just below

her chin. When she was Jim, she had this long

pink hair. Well, the dolls crack me up. Even

as a kid, I thought this was hysterical. That,

you know, they make her go, Oh, look, Jim looks

so pretty. They have this little patch of hair

on top of her head that was pink. You were supposed

to like roll up and tuck into her hat when she

was Jerika. And when she was Jim. You pulled

the hat off, and it fell over the hat, and it

only covered about half the hair. So you can

see the shorter hair underneath. In the ads,

it all was big and full. And I'm like, it's not

that full. I remember being very disappointed

with that. I thought that was just cheesy beyond

belief. Even Chrissy's like, why is this other

layer here, Mom? I'm like, that's the gem hair.

Yeah, that's the thing about it. It's just so

out there. I don't know. Candice. What, baby?

Did you click that link right there where it

says the Jim and hologram one that he sent? Well,

no, because I haven't been allowed to touch my

keyboard. Well, you need to see it, because look

where the stand is. I'm afraid. Should I be afraid?

Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah, I just want to

say I want to. I want the gut reaction. I want

to hear everybody has to... Oh my god! Yes! What?

What? It's gem in the camel toes. But yeah, for

people at home listening, the stand comes right

in between your legs and it's a U -shaped right

in her hoo -ha. It's a cross stand! Yeah, it's

right in her hoo -ha. $125 for that the face

of the doll is really pretty the hair is cute.

Would you pay $125 for that Candice? Breck no,

I could make a Barbie look like that Because

she looks like a Barbie. I'm sorry. She looks

like a Barbie, but she doesn't have a microphone

Where's your star on her neck or no her earrings?

It was her earrings. Yeah. Yeah, and the original

dogs She had a battery first image you know you

had a battery in the back that the lights they

would actually blank you could put it on and

off you know that they're on a blank i i don't

know yet this is just solely rocker james so

you're not gonna have the hair issue of having

jerek is here underneath that pink hair this

is specifically the jim dole this isn't and as

i was saying before i've seen all the shows were

that held issue where that because i don't remember

that out that ever well no i mean it's an updated

version yeah the edge right but you know this

is james madonna they don't know if they're gonna

make more of them uh... you know they might but

you just don't know uh... sits the fifty -year

-old jim dole That's what it is about her face.

She looks, her face really is shaped just like

a Barbie. I mean, the face, the eye makeup, I

had Barbies that had head eye makeup just like

that. I mean, it's not terribly impressive as

far as originality. One of the things that the

gym calls is Mattel. Oh, so, and this is what

Hasbro? No, this is Integrity Toys. Yeah. Oh,

this is a third party toy company. But the Barbies,

I mean, looking at this picture, I'd have to

see it in person to know, but like the thing

about the Gem Dolls is those were, you know,

Barbie was, is, I want to say eight and a half

inches tall, I think. And the Gem Dolls were

12 inches. They were bigger. So like you had

to buy clothes just for Jim. That's why I had

all the gym clothes from all the episodes Oh,

so you can Barbie clothes Barbie clothes on her

I had to have the gym clothes because her body

was too big seeing us boys wouldn't know that

kind of stuff Yeah, she was a much bigger doll

then then and her shoe her feet were huge her

shoes were huge I mean she her all of her clothes

and all that was a lot bigger because she couldn't

wear any of the Barbie stuff In fact, I used

to take some of the gem clothes and put them

on Barbie and like safety pin them to try and

make them look right because they would be so

much bigger than They would be so I think I take

that back I think gem could wear some of the

Ken clothes like the jackets and stuff Hello

Yeah, oh for a second. I thought I lost you guys

no Sorry, but I think like I used to like it

because in the 80s, you know girls wore dinner

jackets and stuff I would let my gem dolls wear

like my Ken jackets and stuff but Yeah, Ken is

truly a girl's toy Yes, he is as perfectly illustrated

in Toy Story 3 but Regardless, you know, she

was so much bigger and people don't realize didn't

realize that I don't think While she's pretty

and she's definitely got the gem hair going on,

she looks like a Barbie doll. I could probably

dye one of my blonde Barbies and cut the hair

to look like that. But she has articulated wrists

and I don't think Barbie had those. No, Barbie

never had articulated wrists. She did not. I

think Integrity is going to try to see what those

sold for and to see if they're worth putting

out the money to make more The gym dolls Everything

is making a comeback, you know, pretty much the

whole hub network is killing us with with comeback

stuff But that's not a bad thing though. Well,

no not at all. I I'm so happy that they're gonna

play, you know Armada and or no not Armada animated.

Yeah, cuz I I missed it completely I missed that

whole see I never watched a show except for on

YouTube. I watched a couple But I've never actually

watched all of them. And now I get a chance to

actually see him because, you know, I was out

of high school. I transformed was the last thing

on my mind. I completely missed it all. So now

I'm happy to actually get to see it. Thanks to

the hub and bringing back our childhood or killing

it one or the other. Well, I'll wait till the

movie comes out of the turtles. Oh, God, don't

even. I was joking. I was joking. Don't you like

the alien version of them? Just don't even go

there. I mean, it's it's one of those things

where you just don't know what they're what they're

going to do. And he's he's only his company's

only producing the damn thing. He's not the director.

So he doesn't have the final say. So I don't

think it'll be as bad as everything else. But

it's just some people are the worst at PR. You

know, just the way stuff is worded. That's really

what the problem is. It's not you know sure you

know and that's the thing you know you get someone

at a convention whether it's SDCC whether it's

with her world whether it's C2e2 whether it's

NYCC it doesn't matter you get someone making

an announcement like that about hey Here's a

here. Here's a teaser a preview you're going

to take it at face value and for those die -hard

fans that may not like the fact that Our turtles

are gonna be alien You know, you're gonna have

those lash outs and all that stuff. So same way

you did with the transformers Everybody's like,

oh you killed off jazz in the first movie. Okay,

you know, it's it's a new thing, you know get

over it It's if everybody rehashes stuff, but

if everybody rehashes stuff there and do that

Bob because I have listened to you bitch insanely

over That anyway, and we're going to continue

this discussion next week because we're gonna

get into and dissect Bob's Affection for jazz

so we will catch you guys next week and and his

wonderful love of the you know hatred of the

Batman reboot Next week's gonna be fun, so we'll

see you guys then I hate how fake Hollywood is

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