Movie News and Year-End Discussions 2017

Hi, this is John Delancey and you are listening

to the Geekcast Radio Network. Today on episode

158 of The Cinema Geeks... We discuss what's

next for the director of John Wick. We react

to the rumors of the next director with an interest

in making a Star Trek movie. And we give our

thoughts on the Disney takeover. All that and

more coming up on this week's episode of The

Cinema Geeks. That's right, we are here with

episode 158 of The Cinema Geeks and today we're

giving you our thoughts on some news and some

headlines in relation to the movie world. There's

been a lot of big movie news lately so that'll

give us a chance to kind of comment on that as

well as some other headlines and different stories

that we dug up that we might... Think some of

you might find interesting out there in the geek

world that that love movies So we're gonna do

a movie episode movie news episode We kind of

put this on Twitter out I don't know a couple

weeks ago to see if anybody was interested in

us kind of getting back and doing some news here

And there were some people that thought that

that would be interesting So we're gonna do a

few sprinkle it in here and there and see what

you guys think and if you like it Maybe we'll

do it once a month or something of that nature

We'll have to see how it goes, but I am NOT alone

today as you heard in the introduction I am optimist

solo, but joining me today is hard candy mandy

hello yo and movie revolt dan hello hello disney

yes yes that's not the new greeting we need now

is that not you got to get on board or get out

of the way i think is the their slogan as i as

i'm sure a bunch of other studios are now Trying

to figure out how they're gonna navigate these

waters So we will get to that in a little bit

Matt for the sent not with us today But we're

gonna be covering movie news regardless and let's

start off with one of the ones that we kind of

teased in the Introduction and let's start in

the world of Star Trek. I know there's been this

headline It's been making the rounds and it's

been growing different arms and legs as far as

the rumor mill goes So I'm interested to kind

of hear your guys take on if you think this would

work or not. Rumor about Quentin Tarantino possibly

desiring to direct a Star Trek film. Dan, let's

get your thoughts first on this. Do you think

Tarantino and Star Trek are a match or is that

two polar opposites as far as the end of the

spectrum? It is two polar opposites in a way,

but I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing.

I know, you know, Quentin Tarantino is a huge

Star Trek fan. He's never done anything really

within the Star Trek genre, or sorry, science

fiction genre, so I'd be kind of curious in that

realm just to see what he would do with that.

Not necessarily the first name I think of when

I think of Star Trek, but maybe that's something

they need. I mean, I'd be interested to see what

he would bring to the table. I don't necessarily

think... You know, it's gonna be Pulp Fiction

meets Star Trek, but perhaps like his just, you

know, some of the other qualities that he has

as a movie maker or storyteller could kind of

shine through with that. Dan, do you think the,

because the other thing that kind of goes in

with that, I mean, on one hand, you have maybe

different styles. On the other hand, you have

Tarantino who has never done anything except

for basically his own work and his own vision,

etc. And in this situation, he'd be having to

kind of Deal with the studio and the powers that

be with the paramount I believe it is so Do you

think that is something that would really work

from just kind of regardless of the styles but

just from a? Logistic standpoint of them being

able to work together I Think so my guess is

before he would even get into it like he would

probably set his parameters and what he's looking

for before, but you never know because I think

something comes to mind. It's like Edgar Wright

with Marvel, where it seemed like that was a

partnership that was going to work, but just

by the end of it, it didn't. Who knows? I just

feel like knowing that J .J. Abrams is in his

corner and I think Star Trek is looking for something

in a way that they may need him more than he

needs them. Perhaps they would let him, I know

there's already talked about that they would

let him do an R rating, which seems kind of weird.

I don't necessarily think that's necessary for

a Star Trek movie, but I don't know. I feel like

they would give him freedom, but I'm sure that

he won't, it won't be exactly what he would want

to make. Right, and definitely J .J. Abrams in

his corner and they said they were even assembling

a writer's meeting or writer's room possibly

if they were to get an idea together and then

pitch it to the studio. Amanda, could you see

an R rating or a blood and gore or just any Tarantino

style somehow in the Star Trek universe? No.

I can't, but I think it would be... I can't picture

it. I can't make that work in my mind, but...

Thinking back to the only Star Trek movie that

I can remember when the Klingons Like came in

and fucked a bunch of people up and then all

his blood was like floating in zero gravity I

feel like Tarantino could Ramp it up and make

me scared of a Star Trek movie again. Obviously

along with that story, there was some offshoot

rumors, one of which was apparently coming from

Patrick Stewart that said that he would be on

board for something like that if Tarantino was

to do a Star Trek film, that he would be game.

I don't have the article in front of me to say

if that's verified from a source or things like

that, but Dan, does that make it more or less

appealing? Well, I mean the fact that he looks

exactly the same as he did... way back when,

is a bonus. I don't know. I enjoyed the overall

new Star Trek universe enough. I didn't necessarily

want to see that die. I would be fine if they

made another movie. I enjoyed Star Trek Beyond

for what it was. I would like to see what he

could do with that cast, maybe with a stronger

writer or director behind him, that that cast

could really shine even brighter. Unless it's

some sort of weird... Time travel type of thing

who knows but I don't think him coming back would

really impact me liking it or not I am NOT I'm

one of the Few that never really watched Star

Trek next generation. So perhaps I'm not the

the best voice when it comes to that Amanda do

you think Mr. Patrick Stewart sir Patrick Stewart

and point Tarantino should team up regardless

of the Star Trek or not I think after seeing

Green Room, I have a different view on what Patrick

Stewart is capable of in films. So yeah, I think

it'd be pretty cool no matter what. Nice, nice.

Let's get on to one that wasn't in the intro,

so something kind of that we didn't tease yet,

but did you guys know that there was going to

be the possibility of an Addams Family animated

movie coming out, Amanda? No. You're a fan of

the Addams Family, right? Yeah. Apparently, there

is talks of an animated Addams Family movie coming

out, and the reason that came to my attention

is because there was news about who would possibly

be voicing Gomez Addams. Any guesses? Gomez Addams?

Think today's actors? Vanessa Bellatoro? Nope.

Dan, any idea? I do, because I think I saw this

too. Was it Oscar Isaac? Yes. It's really perfect.

Oh, look how perfect. I mean... That makes me

want to see a live action, another live action

Adam's Family movie, because he looks the part.

So it wouldn't just be someone who sounds the

part. Do you see that stash? Yeah, maybe a little

apprehensive though when I see some of the other

stuff in the article, because this animated Adam's

Family movie is coming from Conrad Vernon, and

if you don't recognize that name, he is the one

who was behind Sausage Party. Amanda? apprehension

Dan is there any need for the Addams Family movie

to be revived once again in in our day and time

No, not really. No. I Mean, yeah, I'm just because

you know once we get the Addams Family revival

of the month the Munsters revival Universe coming.

Yeah, definitely Amanda What do you think? I

know you're a little apprehensive with that name

that I attached, but what about just the idea

of an Addams Family animated movie? Need it?

Don't need it? What do you think? Yeah, I would

dig it. I like the Addams Family, and I think

with at least Oscar Isaac attached to it, I'd

definitely be down. Alright something else that

some people might not be down for or might be

I don't know we got the we got the big Reboot

coming out here in a few weeks with Jumanji welcome

to the jungle a 90s movie that is being rejuvenated

with the likes of The Rock and Kevin Hart a Movie

that originally featured the great Robin Williams

What about another Robin Williams movie being

redone or reinvented? article coming out here

From Kevin Hart saying that he would like to

do a new mrs. Doubtfire Dan, what do you think

mrs. Doubtfire with Kevin Hart needed or not?

Man, I feel like that's like a Saturday night

life sketch waiting to happen Man, I'm surprised

mrs. I thought mrs. Doubtfire has not been remade

by this point because I you think it would be

just as everything is Don't know I really I have

no interest in that to be honest with you. I

I just I Feel like this like that movie was so

based on Robin Williams and like his performance

in what he put into it like trying to recreate

that with someone else and I just don't know

I'm like that kind of led to an entire genre

of like men dressing up like women, you know

Big Mama's house Madea and like I felt like that's

been done at this point to death Do we really

need it any more of it just because it's a remake

I I would say no Yeah, I'm in your camp too.

I don't see that that is something that would

be necessary I don't know if it's Kevin Hart

the right person to do that if it was necessary.

I'm not sure on that either Amanda What do you

think Mrs. Doubtfire need some some more movies

in that room with a different person? I mean

if it's Kevin Hart, it's basically Big Mama's

house Kind of less funny Martin Lawrence and

Is that what Kevin Hart is? Yeah If you put him

in this movie. All right, so you're not on board

I love Mrs. Doubtfire. Don't wreck it for me.

Okay, so that's three thumbs down I think for

another Mrs. Doubtfire movie. Let's go into some

things that are based on some comics and a couple

other things. We teased one of them in the intro

but I'm gonna get to one other one first here

and see what you guys think of this one because

it has some names that are relevant based on

things that have come out here in the last couple

years. What if I told you the director from IT

from this year and the directors from the upcoming

Avengers Infinity War, which would be the Russo

Brothers, teaming up for a sci -fi film based

on... narrative art book entitled The Electric

State. I have no knowledge of what The Electric

State was so I had to do some digging for you.

But this is, they're talking about this in the

likes of Arrival, Ex Machina, the TV shows Black

Mirror, some of that kind of more high -minded

science fiction. Here's the this premise for

this here. This is going to be covering the United

States, the Western United States set in the

late 1997 era. as far as years go for that and

basically follows a runaway teenager and her

toy robot who travel through an alternate reality

United States where a high -tech consumer society

is in decline and it's basically based on an

art book so based on several images and they've

got a Kickstarter campaign. There is a trailer

out there if you want to see a little bit more

about that. Dan, does any of that intrigue you

or what do you think of this? Yeah, I mean definitely

we're don't like new idea I guess on original

property because it's based on something else

but It's weird when you see like because that'd

be three directors really like that. I Wonder

is it like an anthology or is it like have dueling?

I don't know That doesn't mean again has me intrigued

because I like the Russo brothers. I enjoyed

it I mean, you know having like you can have

more of a science fiction horror execution with

it based upon what they've done in the past,

so certainly interested. Yeah, Andy. I don't

know if we'll say his last name right or not,

but machete who was the director from it He also

did mama in 2013 which was another horror film.

So he's done mostly horror films He has some

other upcoming projects it chapter two There's

a hulu TV series called lock and key which is

based on Joe Hill's comic series And then he

also is doing a robotech Either series or or

show which is obviously based on the 1980s anime

robotech So that's kind of what he's doing and

we know what the Russo brothers have done with

it Captain America films and coming up with Avengers

Infinity War. Obviously they did some work on

Community. Amanda, what do you think of this

collaboration and did the plot synopsis that

I gave intrigue you at all? Yeah, definitely.

Did you say it was animated? No, this is going

to be a live action. Yeah, I think they're pretty

dope. I think the premise there is pretty cool.

I'm really not one to... I don't know about the

Russo Brothers. I like their movies, I guess,

but I'm not looking for Russo Brothers stuff.

So I'll watch it. Don't say that in front of

Dan. What? I didn't say anything bad about it,

I just... I don't have an attachment to them,

like... Russo Brothers have done some good work.

You know, Captain America, good films. Okay,

yeah, yeah. I mean, I agree with that. I just

didn't... I didn't know who... I mean, I've heard

of them before, but I don't... I can't name their

specific works. Gotcha, gotcha. I do like the

premise here of this kind of this futuristic,

but... also past United States settings, so we're

kind of getting a time period that we know, but

an alternate timeline of that time period. So

it'd be kind of interesting to see what they

do and what they pick and choose to include or

not include. So I'm definitely intrigued on that

one as well. Dan, I wanted to bring this other

one up, especially with you on the record here

today, because I think you are going to have

more knowledge on the source material that we're

getting here. And we teased this one in the introduction

with the John Wick director and what he's got

coming up next. So the article is saying that

he is going to helm an adaptation of the supreme

supremely twisted, kill or be killed comic. I'm

going to go right to you right away before we

talk anything else. Fill us in on what is kill

or be killed. Well, for one, I wouldn't call

it supremely twisted, but the basic premise of

kill or be killed is that it is this guy who

is dealing with depression and his life is basically

falling apart and he attempts to kill himself,

but he fails. after he fails he kind of has an

illusion or he our demon comes and says that

it's the demon that actually saved his life and

in order to remain living he needs to kill a

person every month and in order to do so it's

just like this idea of you're not sure if the

demons real is he imagining it and kind of the

path he goes down because of all this and it's

kind of like a I related to a lot of like the

Cohen brothers movie where you have this man

who's well about way out of his depth in trying

to like deal with things and the effect of it

That it has it's I think it's some it sounds

it's much more down -to -earth than it seems

and it's a comic I love it was my favorite comic

last year. It's done by Ed Bruder Baker and speaking

of Captain America He wrote the story once your

soldier that the movies based on so I'm kind

of excited for what it would seem. It's not like

John Wick like I mentioned. This isn't like a

kick -ass assassin. This is like a normal everyday

guy who kind of just is lost. Something like

Blue Ruin comes to mind as well where it's just

this guy trying to figure out how to kill someone

and he has no idea where to start and he just

kind of gets in his own way over and over again.

But it kind of develops from there. Early shot

it being in you know in your top 20 or 30 most

anticipated films for the year Yeah, is it said

to come out next year? I'm not sure when exactly

it'll come out But I'm just saying whatever year

it does come out be a fun or odds -on favorite

early on to be kind of towards your top Oh for

sure for sure because there's there's you know

There's actually a lot of coming adaptations

coming out next year that I'm super excited about

as well that are off to kind of the beaten path

so I'm excited and Ed Brubaker has like a huge

line of really good properties that would make

good movies like The Fade Out or A Criminal,

a lot of noir crime stories. So maybe if this

is successful, some of those could transfer over

as well. So and also Brubaker is if you watch

Westworld, he's a writer on that as well. So

you've kind of even if you haven't even never

heard his name before, but you've probably watched

something that he's connected to. Interesting

and I like it to you snuck in there any early

tease for an episode that we'll be putting out

probably in about a month's time where we Break

down our most anticipated film, so I'm interested

to see which which comic adaptations You're referring

to Amanda any interest in seeing some more from

the John wick director. Yeah, definitely I like

the style and I like the The flair to the John

wick so if that's gonna transfer over then yeah,

all right something else that might be on I guess

setting the stage for films that maybe will be

anticipated here coming up in the next year or

so. This one actually has a theater release date

of February 16th, so definitely could be on the

list when we get to 2018 releases. Don't know

about you guys well I think I know Dan But I

don't know for sure Amanda what your take is

on the Aardman studios and the films that they've

done Wallace and grommet Sean the sheep They

also did chicken run and was the last one pirates

band of misfits Amanda fan of those films or

not. I think they're cute um I I don't You know

have like a particular love for them, but I I

think they're kind of adorable Dan, what do you

think of the Aardman Studio films, and did you

know that they had a new film coming out in February?

I had no idea. They had a new film coming out

in February, and I do like them. They're witty

and can be really great at times, like Chicken

Run I think is really fantastic. I think that's

them too, right? Walton Bromit. Is the new one

also claymation? Because I need some good claymation

in my life. Mostly, I think there's going to

be slight... variations where they somewhat include

some CGI so the article says it extends briefly

outside of practical stop -motion claymation

and into CGI territory for some stuff but it's

more for just kind of filling in details I this

the stuff that they do is impressive and if you

haven't ever seen like a behind -the -scenes

or like a making of any of the Aardman films

you or if you haven't done any research on I

might suggest doing that because I think it would

give you a more appreciation or a higher appreciation

for the level of Craftsmanship that goes into

this and just to give you a kind of an idea of

that in order to support the production for chicken

run They had to move into a completely new complex

that had four studios with a combined size of

four Olympic size swimming pools because they

have to set up so many different sets in order

to make this so it doesn't take like a decade

to make so at times they're setting up to as

many as like 40 individual sets when they were

working on this new movie because they almost

have to have so many production units going on

at the same time since they have to do everything

frame by frame because otherwise it would take

just so long so they've been trying to come up

with new and better ways each time to cut down

on the overall production time. And if you kind

of traced through Aardman's history with what

they did early on with Wallace and Gromit compared

to what they did with something like Chicken

Run, you would see just a ton of innovation as

far as them cutting costs and cutting time down,

et cetera, et cetera. So the new film that they

have coming out in early 2018 in February is

actually called Early Man. Alright, and it's

supposed to be, like I said, their most ambitious

film yet. So this is dealing with an idiot caveman,

I guess you could call it, voiced by Eddie Redmayne.

And kind of just going through some shenanigans

with that. We have Tom Hiddleston, Eddie Redmayne,

Maisie Williams, stop -motion prehistoric claymation

caveman comedy. Dan, what do you think? It kind

of sounds in line with what you know, they're

their style and sensibilities so You know like

it's caveman quality. I'm sure it'll have like,

you know your mix of some physical and kind of

funny jokes But it seems more like along the

lines of pirates has some of that stuff as well.

So Yeah, and you know to do this to do all this

claymation and stuff like that. I mean they have

to they have to Purchase a ton of raw materials.

There's this thing called plasticine Which is

the like the moldable? Clay or the putty that

they put together as well as some other things

They said that they had to he had to procure

over three tons of some of these materials Which

is you know more than like an average rhinoceros?

I guess is what the article says so it's a lot

of work Amanda did you know this much work was

going into the films like walson graham? And

what do you think of the ideas of eddie redman

and tom middleton doing like a caveman early

man movie? that's a lot of clay yeah a lot of

room for sets um but i think that it's like a

simple premise like the other ones and they've

got some i bet you they're gonna have some cute

little morals and and stuff like that to to tell

and with the voice cast it's weird to tie them

to a caveman movie but uh sure i like their voices

Alright, we'll have to wait and see how that

turns out. It's coming right around the corner,

less than a few months away. I had to include

this next one, guys, just because the title of

the article made me laugh. Here's the title of

this next news article. Ryan Reynolds is playing

Detective Pikachu in the new Pokemon movie because

2018 wants to outweird 2017. I don't know anything

about Pokemon, and I don't know anything about

Detective Pikachu, but apparently there was a

specific game called Detective Pikachu, and Ryan

Reynolds is on board with going to voice Detective

Pikachu, but Pikachu never talked, did he? He

just says Pikachu. So I'm confused. Maybe in

Detective Pikachu he says more? I don't know,

it seems like the article, as far as someone

being the... playing Pikachu, like, I don't understand

why they would need Ryan Reynolds. I don't know,

it says he's essentially playing Sherlock Pikachu.

I don't know. Dan, do you know anything about

Pokemon, Pikachu, or anything? I don't, but maybe

it's like a Vin Diesel Groot type of situation

that they're trying to go with, I guess. I don't

know. Or maybe it'll be like some really truly

gritty noir take on it. Amanda do you need a

Pikachu movie in your life? No Okay, I just had

to conclude it because I don't know what they're

getting as far as 2018 wants to outweared 2017

but it sounds funny So I don't know this 2017

weird and movies. We did have an emoji movie.

Yeah, I guess that's true That's definitely very

true. Let's get to Maybe one of the biggest news

stories to come out in quite some time because

we have a lot that we can kind of talk about

with this But obviously the thing that Twitter

blew up about in the last week or so, one of

the things, there was basically three things

being tweeted about, it was like Last Jedi, Net

Neutrality, and Disney Takeover. So let's get

into the Disney Takeover a little bit with the

purchase of Fox and what that includes and let's

speculate as to why we're maybe excited, what

we're apprehensive about, etc. Rumors that were

going on will they get this will they get that

and those types of things and also you'll have

to deal with the fact that There's different

types of rights. There's distribution rights

and and different things You know different types

of rights that can still hold up things a little

bit But they basically got all of Fox's catalog

as far as the movies and everything basically

anything that was Fox related they got From Rupert

Rupert Murdoch except for they left out Fox News

so the They didn't want that. And they didn't

want any of the newspapers that were owned by

Murdoch and the Fox Corp. And they got to keep

their broadcast channel as well. So everything

else, basically, 20th Century Fox is now going

to Disney. Before we kind of get into some specifics,

just kind of in general and vague terms, Dan,

what's your reaction to this type of major merger?

Honestly, it's next. Part of me is... excited,

obviously, because the idea of many Marvel properties

coming back opens up a lot of doors, not even

just like the X -Men and Fantastic Four, but

just some of the major villains that brings,

like I'm thinking of Galactus and Silver Surfer,

and finally those can be done right. So there's

a lot, because I felt like Marvel, after the

fourth Avengers movie, is there any place else

to go? And suddenly that answer is definitely

yes. tons of places to go now. But I know, you

know, there's some concern that this is giving

Disney a lot of power and they've done a lot

of shady things in the past. I mean, most recently,

there was a thing they did last this year with

was it the San Francisco Chronicle or the LA

Times and and like how there was buy back to

that. What happens now when they even have more

power? I know movie theaters have changed, have

complained that they demand more and more regarding

how much they're taking from their distribution

to exactly what type of theater and what theater

they play their movies in. Disney does have a

lot of high expectations, but ultimately, you

know, 20th Century Fox was going to be sold.

And the question of who was going to be sold

to, if it was sold to Comcast, for example, those

movie rights to Marvel would have gone back to

Marvel anyways for characters like Fantastic

Four and stuff like that. Or if that's part of

it, that's still kind of not sure. But I trust

Disney taking... this more so than other studios.

For example, Sony, I don't think they know what

to do and they'd probably go under and there'd

be even less studios and Disney would buy up

all of them. Say what you will about Disney,

but they do dedicate themselves to putting out

a quality product. They took over Marvel and

they've done so with Pixar. Their animation studios

have been putting out a lot of great work recently.

You may not love everything they do, but more

often than not, It's good to great. Yeah, we'll

get a Cars 3, but we'll also get an Inside Out

and an Up and a Coco. So I think we get much

more good than bad. So I'm hopeful, but there

is some trepidation. Amanda, they obviously have

done well with Marvel. They've done well with

Star Wars. Do you think that if Fox had to be

sold that this is, even though it kind of gives

them a lot of power and almost a, not really

a monopoly, but a lot of stake in what they can

say, what they can demand from movie theaters,

et cetera, that Fox, if it is going to go somewhere,

at least Disney may be good hands to go to? I

would say, and I think that since they already

have their hands in, you know, some of these

properties that maybe we'll get some cool stuff

and we'll get... Some of these universes fleshed

out some more. Yeah I found an article that kind

of posed a bunch of different things that could

happen So I want to some kind of run down each

one of these and get your guys's Opinion so these

are things that could come from this 50 plus

billion dollar deal. So One thing that obviously

sprout, you know came to everybody's minds right

away would be revolving around the different

comic properties and some stuff like that, so

What do you guys think of the possibility of

Deadpool now joining the Marvel Cinematic Universe,

Amanda? He's not? What do you mean, like, with

Thor and stuff? Yeah, like in an Avengers movie

or in a Thor movie or a Guardians movie that

Deadpool could show up now since they're under

the same banner. I feel like it would cheese

it up or make it twiddle. I don't know. I don't

know how I feel about that. Dan, what do you

think? It's just too much. I kind of like the

X -Men being their own thing, so I'd prefer that

kind of stay the way it is. I don't know if you

can make Deadpool as effective in a PG -13 setting,

but I do think there are other characters that

may work better than Deadpool. I don't know,

I feel like Deadpool would work, even in an X

-Men movie, I don't think you'd get as good of

a Deadpool. I'd rather him just kind of stay

within his own thing. Okay, and we will definitely

get your thoughts on which characters you think

would work in that. Here's another one that might

have come to some people's minds when they heard

about this. Is there a possibility that we will

get an actual good Fantastic Four movie, Dan?

I think so. I mean, you know, you can get Chris

Evans back to play... Human Torch and I think

Michael Chiklis even said he would come back

to play the thing and I thought both of those

were actually kind of the Better parts of those

movies, you know, obviously that's not gonna

happen. But I think the sensibility that worked

so well for the Marvel films fits perfectly in

with the Fantastic Four and I think they get

those characters better than Sony or better than

Fox did Obviously, you know, we can't get much

worse than the Fantastic Four or fan force ticket,

whatever you want to call it. So I really hope

so. I really think Fantastic Four could be a

great movie if done right. Amanda, you excited

about an idea of another reboot of the Fantastic

Four that possibly could be done with people

that are more capable? Absolutely. Who's more

capable? What do you mean? Disney. And they've

hit a home run with every comic book film they've

done. Fantastic Four has been garbage for years.

So will Disney be able to do what Fox was not

able to do with them? Do you think they'll touch

it with all the crap that's been surrounding

it? They have the control now. I mean, if they

did, I think that it would be a pretty solid

film. Okay. Here's another question that they

pose. Would we get... A reboot of the X -Men

universe, Dan. I think it's in the serious need

of one. I know they have the Phoenix movie coming

out, but I feel like, you know, after Apocalypse,

I think they didn't really know what to do even

after Days of Future Past. So I'd be completely

okay with them doing it. I feel like, you know,

really every actor has done what they can. From

you know Hugh Jackman to Patrick Stewart I think

those characters have like, you know They they've

gotten to as far as they're gonna get and now

they're just kind of repeating themselves So

they wanted to start all over that I'd be fine

with that or even if they wanted like just put

them on the back burner movie wise for a little

bit and then introduce them later down the line,

but I'm not saying I'd be against Hugh Jackman

staying at Little Marine, but I I think there

are a lot of pieces that could be improved considering

where they're at right now. I think the X -Men

is one of the franchises or one of the universes

that may be the easiest to kind of reboot every

now and then or rejuvenate because you can kind

of just write it into the storyline with the

timelines and different things and kind of what

they did with First Class and Days of Future

Past where it doesn't become that jarring and

you can even have some... play with some of the

people that may have already existed. So I'm

kind of going along that line and I'll bounce

to you Amanda on this one, but the other thing

was also X -Men related. Not only just X -Men

getting a reboot, so to speak, but what about

that setting the stage then for Disney to bring

on somebody new to play Wolverine? They would

have to, I mean... Getting a little rough getting

a little old, isn't he? Maybe that's just how

he looked in Logan. I mean, he said he's done

So unless this somehow changed his mind, I guess

he's supposed to be done. He's supposed to be

retired as that character So I just can't see

anybody else being him I've seen some pictures

of Tom Hardy and a couple different people that

artist or somebody rendered to try to look like

Wolverine So that was interesting. Here's one

of the things that I was most excited about when

this happened because this officially gives Disney

all that they were missing from their Star Wars

property, because they had most of Star Wars

under control, but there were some things that

Fox's... still kind of had their hands on, including

the original releases, as far as the rights to

that, and certain music that Fox had. Some of

the theme songs have not been able to be played

in The Last Jedi, Force Awakens, etc. because

of the rights to that. So, Dan, what do you think

of Disney now having 100 % control of all things

Star Wars? I mean, I don't know like the little

pieces that can change now. I didn't care that

much for I guess the biggest piece is now that

They have that hopefully they can release the

like the original editions on on on blu -ray

and then or were 4k whatever we're doing now

So that that's somewhat exciting but I know the

people like I think with the drum roll back in

front of Star Wars like that was never a thing

for me But I guess for those some people it is

Yeah, I'm more excited about getting the original

releases on a higher format than we've ever been

able to get them on, so I think that's what makes

it worth it for me. Another thing that they were

saying is, will this persuade other companies

and other studios to collaborate more with Disney

in fear of them just being bought out? So I mean,

you got the idea that maybe they're going to

be more willing to play ball with Disney when

they do want to... do some collaborations or

work together or things like that i don't really

know if this has much um i don't know if this

would be really cause for that but dan can you

see other studios all of a sudden sony and the

likes i mean we already had kind of the sony

collaboration with the spider -man stuff and

things like that but i don't know universal or

somebody that would be willing to do more with

disney I mean who forget who has been the rights

to name or it's a universal I forget or in a

universal still has the Distribution rights to

the Hulk if I'm not mistaken. Oh, the whole movie

thing is kind of crazy I could see some of them

opening them up a little bit. I Sony has this,

you know, Spider -Man Phantom type of thing They're

trying to go for if that crashes and burns like

I think many think it will I could see them kind

of going back to Marvel and saying, hey, let's

go back and do a homecoming again in some form,

because this isn't working. But I do wonder,

like I said, I'm just waiting for Disney to own

everything and buy the internet. And it's just

like, everything is Disney. Yeah, and definitely

it seems like it's going that way and they have

made some statements already that Fantastic Four

and X -Men would be joining the Marvel Cinematic

Universe and that if they do Deadpool that it

will remain an R rating so they've already kind

of I guess given those comments about the deal

so far so I don't know it seems like we're in

for some interesting things that we haven't been

able to see as far as Characters go so I mean

maybe the last thoughts here on Disney, Dan you

had mentioned some characters that you might

might want to see join different movies, different

properties that you hadn't seen before. Who would

you most like to see all of a sudden join a Marvel

film or an Avengers film or that type of thing

that wasn't possible before? Or should we just

be excited that even if other characters aren't

joining that we're going to at least be able

to call mutants, mutants and things like that?

That piece honestly, it's Galactus. That was

my first thought because it's after Thanos It's

like who else can you go with and Galactus is

the first thing that comes to mind You know this

gigantic, you know, not a cloud but a huge man

or not even man basically God the size of a planet

that eats, you know eats planets and It's would

be the next big threat and I would love to see

how they treat that in the Marvel Universe You

know, I think they could really make it work.

They just had Eagle living planet and I could

see them actually in that work. I think so much

better than I ever thought I could. So seeing

them take on Galactus would be great. Yeah, I

think that would be interesting. I think, you

know, it seems like Almost if this merger had

happened earlier, you know We would have had

a situation where you know the Quicksilver in

the X -Men films could have been the same Quicksilver

in The Marvel films that you wouldn't have had

to had two different actors and things like that

So it'll be interesting to see kind of what they

do going forward the last piece of news here

I guess fitting since this will be going out

in the midst of the the Star Wars craze here

with the last Jedi But we do have in here some

very early box office stuff and it kind of plays

a part into our box office predictions that we

made almost a year ago and we'll be very soon

revealing the results of that here within the

next month. Last Jedi, Thursday night, box office,

second highest of all time. So anybody want to

guess as to who is the first? Titanic. Negative.

Avatar. Nope. Harry Potter. Nope. Another Star

Wars movie. Yes. It's probably the other Star

Wars movie. Is that our Avengers I was thinking?

No, it was Force Awakens. So Force Awakens has

the record with 59 million on Thursday night

and The Last Jedi brought in 45 million in one

night. So Saying that it's on pace to bring in

somewhere around 200 million in the opening weekend,

so That'll be a good opening weekend and projected

maybe somewhere north of 500 million overall

domestically at the box office. So hopefully

everybody had Star Wars The Last Jedi in either

first or second place here when they did their

predictions since over 500 million would put

it in rare territory for this year with just

one other film Beauty and the Beast. So those

would be the two fighting for the top. That came

out this year? Yes. Real quick I wanted to give

you guys just a quick Snapshot if you if you

had anything that you know we used to do kind

of what you've been watching and that type of

stuff is curious Dan if there's anything that

you've been Watching as you've been trying to

catch up with some of the year and movies I know

you just kind of put out your top 100 comics

of 2017 and sometimes once that project gets

over I know you have some time to try to catch

up on TV movies and stuff of that nature so have

you had a chance to catch up on any 17 films

and what have been the highlights for you so

far in the last month or so? I did it. I recently

caught up with three films I can talk about real

quick. First was Baby Driver, a girl writes a

movie, which I know I feel like everyone's seen

up to this point, which I heard a lot of people

saying, oh, it was a, I guess Luke Warren was

a lot of reaction I saw, but maybe there was.

more to it, but I really liked Baby Driver. I

had a lot of fun with it. I thought it was well

-directed. It was everything I'd want from an

Edgar Wright movie about car chases, and yeah,

the characters maybe weren't super dynamic, but

I thought they were well done, and I loved all

the performances, and I don't know. I had a lot

of fun with it and enjoyed it a great deal. I

also saw Ingrid Goes West, and I liked that a

lot as well. I'm a huge fan of Parks and Rec,

so I know her from that, and I thought her performance

was remarkable. I think, in a lot of ways, it's

this movie that she plays this character where

she suffers from some sort of mental illness,

which ends up going out into Los Angeles because

she wants to befriend this person she is friends

with on Instagram and everything that ensues

afterwards. Yeah, but like people talk about

what it's talking about social media, but I think

ultimately it's more about basically how we treat

we treat the mental illness or don't treat it

and the impact that can happen. I thought it

was really good. I don't know necessarily if

it was saying anything specifically unique, but

I think that's OK. It was, I think, just well

handled. And lastly was it comes at night, which

I. I would look up at Rotten Tomatoes and the

discrepancy between the critic score and the

user score was like so dynamic. It was like 50

points off. So I was I was like going into it

thinking it would be something like Under the

Skin or some sort of like art house thriller.

And it wasn't that at all. I saw the director's

past film, which was, you know, much more raw

than this to me was just a really It was just

an executed dystopian, almost dystopian, on the

way up being a dystopian thriller where there's

a lot of mystery behind it. I thought it was

well -directed. It was perhaps a little empty.

There wasn't really much to it beyond the suspense.

As a kind of effective thriller, it worked. I

was just really I'm not really sure where the

such a poor polarizing opinions coming from with

that. I was expecting maybe that's why it didn't

have that impact with me. I was thinking it was

going to be this like utterly slow pace with

nothing happening, like maybe being prepared

for that. It didn't seem a slow pace for me because

I was thinking of something like, you know, trying

to think of something else that would fall like

fall along those lines. But. But yeah, so I still

have a lot to catch up with I'm hopefully gonna

see the killing of a sacred deer which I'm looking

forward to because the lobster was my favorite

milk from last year, but I'm setting my sights

to film, and I'm just realizing just the mountains

of movies I need to catch up with. Yeah, for

sure. We've seen all three of the ones that you

had mentioned, and I think Baby Driver's going

to stick with me a long time just for the way

that they kind of interplayed the music and the

beats and things like that. It was so something

I've never seen before, at least being personally,

and I really enjoyed that. And I thought there

were some good performances in there. I think

you could have some quibbles here and there with

some of the things that happened down towards

the end. That was kind of what I heard from a

lot of people that were doing the reviews. as

far as some of the decisions that were made towards

the end, but I overall really liked Baby Driver.

I think we enjoyed Ingrid Goes West more than

we thought we were going to, going into it, and

I think it does have a lot to say on multiple

levels. I don't know, it's definitely a capsule

of today, you know what I mean, of what... Today's

I guess the centricity of social network and

you know Facebook Instagram Twitter, etc So it'll

definitely be a snapshot of this time in history

But it'll be interesting to see how that plays

out over time And I know there's much more like

you said with the mental illness and so and and

some even more important Themes that are going

on Alongside that as well. So it surprised me.

I really enjoyed it comes at night, but it's

been a long time that one's almost one that I

would need to rewatch because I do I had it rated

pretty high over the course of the year just

for for what I enjoyed it reminded me a little

bit of like a Z for Zachariah or some of those

types of films where there's it's just a slow

build and some tense mystery Yeah, I like beginning

really impacted me like it was Yeah, I know some

people have some problems with it, but it doesn't

give you a lot of answers So maybe that's why

people had trouble with it. But Yeah, I thought

it was really well done. It just you know, it

was just like a really well -directed thriller,

which was something I wasn't expecting. Yeah,

I think it's definitely worth a watch. I would

recommend it for sure. I think we just have four

movies that we're gonna mention real quick, and

I'll get Amanda's quick take on them, and then

we'll move on. We don't need to talk about Table

19. We did see that recently, and that is, as

far as I'm concerned, not worth watching. Not

funny enough to be a comedy and not interesting

enough on any other level, so that was a big

disappointment. Not that I was expecting much.

Amanda, I was interested to get your take real

quick on air here of a film that we saw that

was, nobody was talking about it. I haven't seen

anybody talk about this one, but we rented it

just for the heck of it and put it in. What did

you think of Jungle? I told you this before,

I think it's everything that Z, or not Z for

Zachary, The Lost City of Z. The Lost City of

Z should have been. It was definitely a pleasant

surprise even though it wasn't like a pleasant

journey that you go through during the film.

Based on a true story. Yeah, and I like, and

I think Lost City Z was too, but this was way

better done and way more interesting and engaging,

and I liked the ending. I think that a lot of

it was satisfying. So for those of you that don't

know what we're talking about, Jungle is following

basically these three individuals that meet up

and they're just, for the heck of it, going to

go on this... Like backpacking in Europe and

they're like... get coerced to go to like South

America or something. So this guide takes them

on this journey and it turns into a bit of a

survival and part of the group gets separated

from part of the other group and it kind of follows

the need to survive and what people will do for

each other etc. But it's definitely some interesting

scenes that take place with your boy. Daniel

Radcliffe, so Harry Potter in the Jungle. But

I think we both enjoyed that one enough to recommend

it, especially if you read the synopsis and it's

the type of movie that you're into, I would suggest

that one. We watched The Book of Henry. I guess

my only take on that one is I don't quite understand

the upheaval that people had for that movie.

I don't think it's nearly as bad as it was made

out to be. What do you think, Amanda? I don't

think so at all. I think it was really heartfelt.

I think it had some great moments. I think Naomi

Watts had some parts where I didn't like her.

But I think the heart of the film, or I should

say the film had a lot of heart rather, and I

think that it was an interesting premise and

also had a happy -ish ending, which I dig. Yeah,

a lot of people had a lot of problems with the

last act, and they said it went a lot of different

directions that weren't earned or that they didn't

like, but I didn't think it deserved quite the

hate that it got. I'm not saying it's a great

film, but it wasn't as bad as the reviewers and

Film Twitter said it was. Last couple here, we

saw a film called Lady Bird that's making the

rounds and getting all kinds of acclaim there,

with Saoirse Ronan. Amanda, what did you think

of Lady Bird? I don't know I mean I think that

there was some some good stuff with relationships,

but I couldn't relate to some of it because I

Don't know um It was just like a difficult situation

To put myself in Don't know it was it's very

interesting because I've listened to maybe four

or five four podcast about ladybird and and listen

to some people talk about it and Every single

person that I've heard talk about ladybird brings

up the word relation or relate as far as if they

personally can relate to what's going on in the

film and it's been about 50 -50 between people

I've heard that say they can't relate to it or

people that say they can't relate to it. This

is the film from Greta Gerwig, somewhat I guess

autobiographical, focusing on Circe Ronan who

plays a person growing up at a very specific

time in a very specific place. It kind of follows

her family and what her desire is kind of a coming

-of -age so to speak and definitely getting a

lot of award buzz and Show up on a lot of people's

top film of the year. I thought it was pretty

good I don't know like you guys like you were

saying Amanda if I can Necessarily relate to

what's going on necessary, you know to her character

specifically on a personal level But I still

thought that it was done. Well, I think the family

dynamic is interesting I think there's there's

interesting Things that you get to see from all

from her friends from her parents from her sibling,

etc So I thought there was enough to there and

it was very impressive for a debut directorial

effort from Greta Gerwig So I think it had moments

that were really good, but I was surprised by

Roseanne's sister, too. Yeah, I don't I didn't

like Resolution of the film or whatever. I didn't

like it. I don't feel like Feel like there's

all this building and all this working towards

and then the payoff wasn't great It's interesting

film too for Circe Ronan to be in because it

there's a lot of parallels you could draw between

this and Brooklyn I know they're completely different

films But they're both somewhat of coming -of

-age films in a very specific place in time and

both starring the same person so I think I think

it's interesting. I think it's worth a watch

definitely from everybody and there's a reason

it's going to show up on a lot of people's lists,

so definitely worth a watch. I'd recommend that

one. And the last one I want to highlight before

we close out today, I got to because I've been

championed in this film on Twitter and stuff

and I want everybody to see it that hasn't, even

if they're not going to like it as much as I

did, but I loved Brigsby Bear. I don't know what

it was about it, but I gotta bring it up specifically,

especially with all the Star Wars right now,

because this is another chance for you to see

a little bit of Mark Hamill. But this is a very

interesting story of this individual who basically

grows up idolizing this cartoon, Brigsby Bear,

and the movie kind of goes into why that is.

Not really cartoon, I guess, it's more of a...

It's a kid show. Yeah kid show, but it's very

interesting to see where that comes from Why

he's obsessed with this show and kind of what

happens when the show his life cut There's like

an upheaval and when the show gets cancelled

what's gonna happen? Yeah, so I don't want to

give anything away But it definitely an interesting

performance from Mark Hamill An interesting performance

by the rest of the cast and kind of as we follow

this journey to get Brigsby Bear back on air

I think it's worth a watch. I mean you're not

as high as it as I am Was surprised I liked it

as much as I did I think it's cute and it does

have a lot of heart and there's some learning

moments and I love like the relationship building

and The guy's attitude like the whole time like

he takes everything with such like grace. It's

it's awesome Yeah, I definitely had no expectations

going in for this at all and I guess the reason

I say those types of things is because I'm trying

to temper people to not necessarily I don't want

to have their expectations go through the roof

just because I'm saying I enjoyed the film so

much so they might not enjoy it as much as I

did so just go in with an open mind is why I

say that so but I would definitely recommend

Brigsby Bear to everybody it's a kind of under

the radar it's out available to rent and do different

stuff like that I'm sure you can get it on Redbox

or things like that so if you have a moment I

would add that to the list as you're kind of

choosing things to watch as we wrap up 2000 17

so that's gonna do it for today's episode Let

us know if you like it when we go over the news

or when we go over what we've been watching and

those types of things Or if you prefer us to

stick with our series because we do have a few

of those that are wrapping up and a few of those

that are ongoing we still have a few more video

game films to cover to wrap up that series and

we've been making our way through the Kevin Smith

filmography so definitely check those out and

let us know how you're enjoying that journey

as well and we'll have some fun stuff coming

out in 2018 as we as we venture into some new

places we haven't been before and course it's

also the time of year where we start to wrap

up 2017, get our top list going and then journey

into 2018 with our box office results and predictions

and our most anticipated film. So it's a fun

time of year to be a movie fan so we'll have

a lot of content coming out for you. Dan, anything

else that you'd like to advertise or how can

people find out about your big project where

you revealed your top 100 comics of 2017? Yeah

definitely go to Geocast Radio and check out

my top 100 comic list of 2017. I go into basically

all the comics that I love and I think even if

you're not a comic friend there's things to take

out in everything from monthly comics to general

graphic novels. There's a lot and I'm also working

on a special project which I should be releasing

soon that will be debuting in January that is

very inspired by that as I try to like view comics

through a different lens and I think it's going

to be exciting. A lot of people will enjoy it

and hopefully we'll have more of you get more

content like that coming to GeekCast 3. Yeah,

absolutely. Amanda, how can people interact with

you on social media? You can find me on Twitter

at HardCandyMandy, eyes, no eyes. If you have

a question for me, you can direct it at OptimistSolo

and enjoy any feedback or comments or questions

that you want to send my way. Dan, how can people

interact with you on Twitter? I'm at Movie Revolt.

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