Fall and Winter Movie Release Predictions 2017

Hey, this is Steve Blum and you are listening

to the Geekcast Radio Network. Hello and welcome

to episode 150 of The Cinema Geeks. I am one

of your Cinema Geeks optimists, Solo. Joining

me today is Hard Candy Maddie. Hey, bro. Hey,

bro. Is that what we are now? No. No, definitely

not. It's your new title, bros. Oh, Fridley Sen.

Hello. Hi. I totally jumped Dan. I didn't mean

to. I'm sorry, guys. That's all right. I just

went with it. And movie role Dan. Hello. Hey,

how's it going? I now pronounce you movie bros.

Yeah, I guess news out of the way as far as Cinema

Geek announcements that we did it on, I think

the Twitter, I think I sent something out, but

we are a little bit different now, because we

have a... Different but still the same. Different

but still the same, as Hard Candy Mandy and I

are now officially engaged, so we'll loot. So

news for that and wedding coming sometime next

year probably, so... So that's that. And we are

here today to look ahead and look back as we

do every once in a while throughout the year.

We do apologize we missed out on making any predictions

on the September movies. Vacations and happenings.

I guess we just just slipped past us until Amanda

reminded us last Last week or the week before

that we forgot to do September October So what

we're gonna do instead is we're gonna lump three

months together and we're gonna give you predictions

on the rest of the year October November and

December so apologize apologies to September

But we're gonna turn ahead and and look at the

the final three months of the year and try to

make something Some sense out of what's coming

out Before we do that and get our thoughts on

what's remaining We have to look back way back

now because it was predictions that we made about

July and August. So these movies have been out

now for a while and we have some hard data to

go over as far as our predictions. First question,

I guess, would be, does anybody even remember

the kind of predictions they made for July and

August, Amanda? It's like Guardians 2 and...

No. Was that the time before then? So I was just

looking at this. This would have been the month

with the likes of Spider -Man and War for the

Planet of the Apes and Valerian and the City

of a Thousand Planets. Oh no, I don't remember

them. Alright, well then I'm here to refresh

your memory. Thanks. And let you know how you

did. These are my least favorite episodes of

all because I suck so bad. Oh man. So bad. I'm

no good but I love them. Also I - I have mine

saved up and I just realized that we did the

emoji movie and it's like, oh no. To give everybody

a precursor to the July and August results, before

we give those the standings were... pretty darn

close. Dan, or I'm sorry, I was barely in the

lead with 13 points. Dan was only one point behind

that with 12. Matt was only one point behind

that with 11. And Amanda was only one point behind

that with 10. So it went 13, 12, 11, 10. This

is before the results for July. and August. So

let's get right into it first for the results

of our picks to click. So movies we thought were

going to click at the box office. Three of us

went with Annabelle Creation. That would have

been myself, Dan, and Matt because it's a horror

film and those don't cost much money. Annabelle

Creation had a budget of 15 million, made 101.

Amanda, where were you at? No Annabelle creation

on your pick to click. No, because I knew about

this shit, bro. So that will be points for me,

Dan, and Matt. Amanda, your first pick to click

was Spider -Man Homecoming. Went with the softball.

I need points. If the budget was $175, it's currently

somewhere around the $330 mark. So easy point

there for Amanda. Dan, you and I doubled up on

the second pick as well. We went with Atomic

Blonde. Atomic Blonde had a budget of 30 million

and currently sits around 51. So not quite double

its budget, but it did well for itself. Resonated,

I guess, with some people that were looking for

some action film. So point for Dan, point for

myself. Amanda, you went with War for the Planet

of the Apes for your second pick. How are you

feeling? Good. War for the Planet of the Apes'

budget was 150 million. Did it make 155 million?

No, it's only at 146. What the hell? That's surprising.

That was like a sure bet. Yeah, sure bet, but

not. What? Succeeded in a lot of other areas,

but not quite making its budget back when it

comes to domestic, so I don't know. I was surprised

when I saw that, so no point for you for war

for the Planet of the Apes. You tried to get

it under softball, but you swung and missed.

Matt, your other pick was Dark Tower as a pick

to click. I don't know that that did too well,

guys. Budget of 60, it made 50. So close. So

you and Amanda just barely missing out on those

two, but not quite enough to get you guys a point.

So that's how the picks to click went. Any surprises,

Dan, from those results? The Ace movie, I think,

is the one because that's such a good film. It's

sad that it didn't make more because it certainly

deserved to. Yeah, I was surprised when I was

going over the results that she didn't get a

point for that one. So let's get negative. We

predicted some movies not to do so well, so we

had some bets to bomb. And we also had a movie

that three of us picked on that one because three

of us went with Valerian and the City of a Thousand

Planets, which had a budget of $177 million and

currently is at $40 million. What? Yeah, $40

million. That means it made less than Atomic

Blonde even. and less than Dark Tower. There

was just no way that movie was gonna make money.

That's why I predicted it not to make money,

but I wouldn't have predicted it to be that low.

I don't think I would have predicted Dark Tower

to beat Valerian. But that's what happened, so

points for myself, Dan, and Amanda for all picking

Valerian as a bet to bomb. Matt, your first pick

was Death Note. And I don't really know how we

judge that one. Because... It didn't hit theaters,

right? Correct. So I mean, I guess you're right

there. Because if it cost a couple million, it

didn't make that. It's hard to deal with the

streaming ones. We got to come up with a new

rule for that. So I mean, I don't think... What

do you think? Yeah, I think that... I think that

I don't get the point because if I won on that,

that would be a big asterisk. Let's just try

to be like all the sports and have asterisks

next to our records. Let's go with the second

bet to bomb then. We'll have to see if it comes

down to one point between Matt and another person

for first place. We might have to revisit that

one. I also had Dark Tower as a bomb, and obviously

we already discussed that that would be a correct

pick since Matt missed it as far as a pick to

click. Dan, you had the life and death of John

Gotti as a bet to bomb, which got a new release

date and a new name. That's not fair They knew

it see that's what happens they knew it and they

yeah So they shortened it to just Gotti and now

it's not gonna be coming out until like a week

before Christmas so No points for for that. They

knew that they like no one was talking about

it and then you you've got like a list of all

these floating things right because we put the

amityville ones like six months ago it's like

we got to revisit and then go back to some of

these and then get before we get our final statistics

uh amanda you had kidnap as a bet to bomb did

have a 21 million dollar budget which is surprising

yeah it must be um but it actually made 30 so

it beat his budget no point for you what the

And Matt your other pick was leap with an exclamation

point next to it which had a budget of 30 and

I don't I should check to see if it made any

money this last weekend when I checked last it

was at 20 So that's not good for that animated

film. Yeah, it's at 20 and 20 .5 right now So

that is that's good enough for you to get a point

for leap Hey, not no asterisk on that one. No,

no, no debate. No waiting. That one's a sure

point Let's get to our wild cards for the box

office. Let's start with Matt you had Valerian

beating Jupiter ascending It didn't it didn't

did it Valerian made 40 million Jupiter ascending

made 47 Oh man, Valerian was a better movie.

It was definitely a better movie. Those two are

real close to each other, so I think it's a good

comparison, but you just kind of ended up on

the wrong side of that one. So Amanda, how about

a close result here? You had Atomic Blonde beating

Dark Tower. Any listeners that were paying super

good attention would know what the result is

for that one, but Atomic Blonde made 51, Dark

Tower made 50. What did I say? That Dark Tower

was going to beat Atomic Blonde? You said Atomic

Blonde was going to beat Dark Tower and it did

by one million. What? So that's good. Skills.

So you guys picked some that were real close

to each other. That's interesting. I had Spider

-Man being the making more money than any other

film in the Spider -Man franchise or any Spider

-Man franchise. However you want to break it

down. I don't know what I was thinking with that,

but it beat all of the amazing Spider -Mans.

So can I get a half a point? Nope, okay It did

not be spider -man 1 2 or 3 it came in fourth

in the franchise So right between the the original

three and the amazing ones, so I missed that

one big time Dan your wild card was Logan lucky

would make less than all of the oceans films

The lowest ocean film made a hundred and seventeen

million Logan lucky Currently at 27 whoa I Guess

you really got that one. You almost got that

one so well that it should give you like bonus

points or something So that's the NASCAR heist

movie, right? Correct. Yeah that movie deserves

more than that based on the trailer alone Yeah,

this is sort of this is when we look at the box

office. It's crazy. I mean If you were looking

at the bombs, I guess, from the box office, you

would have War for the Planet of the Apes, Valerian,

Detroit actually only made half of its budget,

Dark Tower, Nut Job 2, Leap, so two animated

films not making their budget back, and Logan

Lucky all would be qualified as bombs. But it's

crazy if you think about it, Logan Lucky and...

A few of these movies that made less than things

like Valyrian making less than Dark Tower surprises

me, but definitely a hard month to predict, I

guess, at the box office unless you were trying

to predict the Annabelle and Spider -Man, because

we all did well with that. So let's shift to

Rotten Tomatoes. We had some fresh picks, some

rotten picks, and some battles. I'll go with

my first fresh pick, which was Detroit, which

Matt, you were on board with as well. Detroit.

Currently has an 83 % on Rotten Tomatoes, so

that would be good for you and me, Matt. You

also went with another D -Film with Dunkirk,

Matt, which Amanda jumped on board with you on

that one. Dunkirk, 93%. Ooh. So that's two points

for you, Matt, for the fresh picks. Let's see,

Amanda, if you can get your second point, because

your second pick was Ghost Story. So you had

Dunkirk and Ghost Story. Dunkirk, 93. Ghost Story

92. So winner winner for the fresh picks. I already

said that one of mine was Detroit. My second

one was Wind River. And Wind River currently

has an 86%. So Dan, if you're keeping track,

that means all three of us got both points for

the fresh picks. Your first fresh pick. War for

the Planet of the Apes currently has a 93%. So

like I said, it resonated a little bit more with

the critics than I guess it did at the box office

when it came to Dallas. Your second pick, Dan,

was Glass Castle. Yeah, not so much. And Glass

Castle currently has a 48%. So that would be

the only wrong pick as far as fresh picks go.

So we did pretty good there, guys. Pretty good.

7 out of 8 for the fresh picks. Let's see if

that translates to rotten. I went with The Last

Face, which most people probably haven't heard

of, but it's a film directed by Sean Penn. I

thought, man, the last Sean Penn directed film

got a 17%, so this one's gotta be bad. The Last

Face currently has a 5%. So, oof, not a good

run as a director when it comes to Rotten Tomatoes,

I guess, for Sean Penn. A couple of you had Nut

Job 2, and that would be me, Dan, and Matt. And

Nut Job 2 has a 10%. I don't even remember that,

but it sounds bad. It beat its first one. I think

the first one had like a 7%. So it's looking

up. No, no. The first one, it tied the first

one. Oh, it did. Yeah, they both got 10%. So

we were all right with that one. And then two

of you, Dan and Amanda, went with Naked, the

weigh -ins joint. It's only been reviewed by

six people. But it has a zero. Six people gave

it a zero? Well, six people did not. Oh, that's

right. The way they do it is positive or negative.

Right. So six reviews and six total negative

reviews. So that's enough for you guys to get

a point. Amanda, your other one was First Kill.

A few more people reviewed that one. That one's

up to 11 people reviewing it. I don't even remember

what that was about. Maybe that's a good thing

because it's only got a nine percent So that

is two points for me two points for Dan two points

for Amanda Matt we haven't Revealed your second

rotten pick which was undercover grandpa That

doesn't sound good right guys Which hasn't come

out yet So it also got pushed. So that would

be the only unsettled point for the rotten picks.

Otherwise we would have been seven for eight

I guess out of those. So let's get to the versus,

the actual battles where we went to mano y mano.

Amanda, you had Annabelle beating Wish Upon.

Oh man. Annabelle, 68%. Wish Upon, 18. Yes. So

that's good. Matt you had taken beating kidnap

Taken as a had a 58 % Kidnap 36 Yeah, nice Liam

Liam Neeson though Yes, y 'all talking about

my softballs and shit. You put Liam Neeson against

a like a hardly a no -name Halle Berry joint

Okay, it was in the 50%. That's not a good poop.

Hicken was right in the middle, so it's kind

of hard to tell if it's going to be higher or

lower. I said that War for the Planet of the

Apes would beat all of the other Planet of the

Apes, which included films that had as high as

81 and 90%. But War for the Planet of the Apes

is currently the highest rated. out of all the

Planet of the Apes, I had a 93. So I didn't,

I thought that was kind of a risky pick, but

War for the Planet of the Apes, it came through

for me. So that is the highest rated Rotten Tomatoes

pick for the franchise. Dan, you said that Saving

Private Ryan would beat Dunkirk. Saving Private

Ryan, 92%. Dunkirk. 93%. What? Whoa. Burn. So

that's almost as bad as one of those other ones

earlier because you're missing it by 1%. So both

films rated very high when it comes to Rotten

Tomatoes. And if people have forgotten our movie

that was ineligible for any other picks because

it was our featured movie for July and August,

it was the Emoji Movie. I thought that would

be one of the harder ones to predict, so that's

why we threw that in there. Let's go over our

box office predictions for that. I was the highest

at 140 million for the Emoji Movie. Dan, you

had 120. Amanda, you had 95. And Matt, you were

the lowest at 90. Wow. I was way too results

with that. That was crazy. That movie didn't

make money, right guys? It made 84. Wow. So Matt,

you are the closest to that one by being the

lowest out of all of us. So we all overshot what

the emoji movie would make. So I guess that's

a good thing, right, guys? That's a good thing

that it made no money. Oh, yeah. I mean, did

it make its budget back? If it means we're getting

not another one, then yeah. It did make its budget

back because its budget was only 50, but I mean,

I don't think it got, it was like the success

that maybe it was hoping for. I don't know. Well,

it did make money though, so you never know.

Then we had to try to predict what its Rotten

Tomatoes score would be. Dan, you were the highest

at 25%. I was at 20. Amanda, you went down to

16. And then Matt, you again were the lowest

at 13. I'm just going to throw a clip from the

prediction show and something that Matt said

in right now. Matt, what do you think? So is

this just going to be all of us guessing a number

close to 10 % because, like, seriously, it's

the emoji movie? So Matt, you were correct. Emoji

movie, 10%. So I don't know. You actually didn't

predict 10%, but you said... that it was probably

going to make 10 % or so. So you being the lowest

at 13 % also get the point for that one. So Emoji

Movie made 84 million and 10 % on Rotten Tomatoes.

So if we want to sum that up a little bit and

update our current totals, I went from 13 points

up to 22 points because the only points I missed

were the two Emoji Movies and Spider -Man being

the best. Dan, you went from 12 to 19. Amanda,

you went from 10 to 18. And Matt, you went from

11 to 20. Nice. So the current standings are

me at 22 points, Matt at 20, Dan at 19, and Amanda

at 18. I suck so bad, you guys. You gained a

point on Dan. What? So you got that going for

you. And if we wanted to review real quick some

of the Rotten Tomatoes, it was an interesting

month as far as what the possibilities were because

you actually have quite a few possibilities on

both ends. There was five or six films that you

could have picked that were rotten. That would

have been Wishapod at 18, Blind at 17, the Emoji

Movie at 10, Dark Tower at 16, and the Nut Job

2 at 10. Not counting some of the other random

ones we threw in there with the last face and

naked. So a bunch of Rodin films during July

and August. Actually a bunch of good films according

to the critics too. Spider -Man 92, Ghost Story

92, War for the Planet of the Apes 93, Dunkirk

93, Girls Trip 89, Atomic Blonde 75, Detroit

83, Brings Be Bear 78, Wind River 86, Logan Lucky

93, and All Saints 93. Dan, were you surprised

that July and August gave us that many films

that were certified fresh? Yeah, I mean, and

then there are like movies that were limited

that came out in July too, like B .B. Driver

and The Big Sick and so it was, I think July

was one of the best months, one of the best Julys

in some time, so. Even though we meet box office

-wise, the summer was kind of a disappointment.

I thought there was actually quite a few good

films and movies that we talked about deserved

a lot more people to go see, but it just didn't

happen. Yeah, so definitely an interesting end

to the summer. I think a lot of people were pleased

with kind of how the summer turned out after

some people were a little bit more weary about

the May and June releases. I think a lot of people

are championing the stuff that came out in July

and early August. We apologize to September,

like we said earlier. We're not going to talk

about you, but we are going to jump all the way

up into the October, November, and December releases.

Before we get into your actual predictions, how

was it this time trying to figure things out,

Amanda? You had three months. You had an extra

month of films to look at. Yeah, but I did it

like a super short amount of time. So I don't

know how solid my predictions are going to be,

but I feel like a lot of these I just kind of,

I don't try to think about too much. I'm just

like, yes, this, this, this, this, and just try

to go for it. Cause if I think about it too much,

I'm just going to keep changing it and it's going

to be wrong anyways. So you can't do any worse

than last. You can only But then I can just stay

if I can last, and that's just as awful. Matt,

what was the hardest section to try to pinpoint

this time around? Oh, man, it had to be one of

the Rotten Tomatoes because, like, those are

always hard. Like, I never know where people

are going to go. Probably the Rot - I think the

Rotten was the last bit I did, but I guess, looking

at my choices, I probably didn't choose that.

Also bombs are hard because like there's so many

horror movies and it's like oh like like one

ticket gets bought that one made money because

they're so they're so cheap to make For me it

was by far the best bomb that were the hardest

this time around I didn't even know if I was

gonna come up with more than one So I'm not real

confident in that section Dan was there a section

that was easy or hard for you? And what do you

think you know going through this? Are you anticipating

these three months? Well, in theory, the easiest

one would be The Fresh, because it's supposed

to be Oscar season, so there should be a lot

of potentially great films, but as we know, that

doesn't always work out, as I thought Glass Castle

would be one of the best movies of the year,

and it turned out apparently not to be. But yeah,

Bombs are really hard this time of year, because

there are not a lot of... like the horror films

as mentioned those are always hard to predict

uh and then there there are not a lot of i hadn't

found a lot of like really high budgeted films

like a valerian and i'm like okay that definitely

is not doing well uh it seems like everything

is relatively low budget and anything that has

a really high budget i'm pretty sure will at

least make money so funny movies that i think

will bomb i it was just one i feel like will

be disappointment based upon Different factors

that maybe it are not gonna be it so it was it

was a little bit harder especially because I

didn't have Like a lot of them didn't have their

budget information available. That was my problem

is I can't find a lot of budget information So

it was hard to it's kind of like shooting, you

know in the dark or something like that So I

don't even know is that a saying shooting in

the dark? Yeah. Okay, we'll go with it Alright,

so let's get right into it Amanda You are the

fairly recent birthday girl, so we'll let you

go first. Where do you want to start? Now that

I'm old, I get to do stuff first? I mean, we

were letting you do stuff first for a long time,

actually. Oh, well, I don't feel so special.

Also, you are the youngest here, so you're not

even that old. Am I really? Well, that won't

change. Just stay that way. No matter what your

picks are, it's not going to change. I think.

I mean, yeah, I'm pretty sure. I think Kevin's

oldest. Yeah, I'm an old man. He's pretty old.

Where do you want to start? I want to do stuff.

Did you call me Old Man River? No. I did. Oh,

you did. OK. I like that. I like that. Man, I

always do like picks to click first, right? I

don't know. I'm going to do my Rotten Tomatoes

versus battle first. You're going to Rotten Tomatoes

versus? Yes. Throwing everything off kilter.

Go for it. Yes. Daddy's Home 2 is going to score

higher than A Bad Mom's Christmas. Going to the

battle of the comedy sequels. Yes. So you said

Daddy's Home 2 is going to score higher? Yes,

than A Bad Mom's Christmas. Going with the strength

of Mel Gibson? You have to. A Bad Mom's Christmas

is a sequel? Mean there was a bad bad moms isn't

that yeah? They're both like the Christmas version

of their Like predecessors all right, so I like

the the match up there That'll be interesting

to see because they definitely both are kind

of occupying that same space. I'll go next I

Guess this is weird because you would have thought

I would have put one of these in the box office

since there's not a lot of big box office budget

type Films during this time, but I actually went

with my rotten versus for two big blockbusters.

I'm gonna go with Thor Ragnarok beating Justice

League in the Rotten Tomatoes realm. So I think

it'll get a better score. Maybe that's a softball

because of how much hate DC gets versus Marvel,

but I'm throwing them here because I couldn't

decide. I was going to go with an easy one and

pick Thor, Ragnarok, because I picked a click,

but I decided to try to play a little bit more

risky. So with my picks to click, but not with

my Rotten versus. So Thor beats Justice League.

Dan, where are you going for your Rotten versus?

I want to go with Jumanji, but I'm afraid that's

going to be pushed back until January. That's

my concern, because it's on the border end of

December. And I have a feeling that they might

not just do that until January, February. But

go for it. Go big or go home. And I will actually

say the new Jumanji reboot will actually score

higher on Rotten Tomatoes than the original Jumanji,

which actually doesn't have a very high Rotten

Tomatoes score. It's like 46%. I think it will,

you know, maybe score 10, 15 points higher. Just

through the rocks, presence alone. I'm surprised

the original Jumanji was that low. I don't think

it was a great movie. I think it was just part

of our childhood. Yeah, that's probably true.

It's not a very good movie. I haven't seen it

in a long time. Straight up, I had the exact

same thing as Dan, that the new Jumanji will

beat the old one. Really? Yeah. Nice, all right,

so I guess you guys will be doubling down on

that point or canceling each other out, whatever

you want, however you want to say it. So, all

right, that's Rotten Versus. Matt, you went last,

so where do you want to go next? Oh man, let's

do the easy ones, the picks to click, right?

All right, what's your first pick to click? My

first one is Happy Death Day because it's kind

of like live, die, repeat meets final destination.

What was the Edge of Tomorrow meets Final Destination?

Like, and the Final Destination movies make so

much money. I'm going to save my thoughts on

Heavy Death Day because I have it in a completely

different category, not having anything to do

with box office. Oh, it doesn't look like a good

movie. It looks like one that's going to make

money. I had a very strong reaction to the trailer

when we saw that in the theater. Amanda, what's

your first pick to click? Murder on the Orient

Express. Think it's gonna make some money? I

hope so. I just really wanna see it, so I'm putting

it there. Come on with your personal desires

there. I like it. I'm gonna go horror film as

well. I think Jigsaw. I guess it's maybe cheating

to put a bunch of horror films in here, but I

think Jigsaw might rejuvenate some of the Saw

fans and get people to go out there. Mr. There's

no rejuvenating that fucking series, not with

this garbage. You think it's garbage? Oh, it's

going to be pretty bad. I think every film has

made its budget back, but I could be wrong. I

didn't do a ton of research. So jigsaw for me.

Dan, what do you got for your first pick to click?

Well, when in doubt, I need to catch up with

some points. So I'm going to go with some easy

ones here. I'm not going to lie. I'm going to

go with Coco. Also, because I believe I was the

only one that had it. Coco in the like top 10

predictions at the beginning of the year. So

I really need the, I'm going to double down.

So I'm going to go with it for a pick to click.

I am finally starting to see some advertising

for it, which is, it took a long time for that

to kind of get out there, but all right. So hoping

that that'll help you in the yearly battles as

well as the seasonal one here. So Matt, back

to you for your second pick to click. Alright,

my next one's gonna be Daddy's Home 2 because

the first one made so much money and then they

added John Lithgow and Mel Gibson. Yeah, I can

see that. So a lot of people finding a way to

get Daddy's Home 2 into their picks. Amanda,

what's your second pick to click? Thor Ragnarok.

Thor Ragnarok. We're gonna eliminate your ability

to go after comic book films for pick to click

here soon. I'm just kidding. You're in last place

You need all the points you can get damn Well,

I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna double I'm gonna

agree with Thor Ragnarok I wanted to pick some

place with it. I'm gonna go I'll put the caveat

that I think it's gonna be the This isn't my

like versus one book This is just an additional

beyond just clicking that it's probably gonna

be the highest grossing Thor. That's my guess

I think it's gonna fight by far Hey buddy, quit

it with these things. He's trying to get some

extra points. I am gonna make a dumb pick I think

with this one, but I actually had this in a different

spot and I flipped it at the last second. I'm

going with Geostorm as a pick to click. I don't

know why I'm doing that because this film is

starring Gerard Butler or whatever it is, but

maybe, just maybe, the amount of actual natural

disasters that we've had in the last two months

will make people interested in seeing a movie

about it? I don't know. Disaster movies rarely

make money and we're in a real bad time right

now. It's too soon. Too soon? No, go for it.

I'm playing it risky. I'll go with Geostorm only

because I had to put what I... I switched my

mind at the last second and put what I had as

my second pick to click actually as a bet to

bomb once I found its budget. So I'll stick with

Geostorm and I'll be on the lonely island wrong

with that one probably when we go over the results.

Alright, Dan, you haven't decided where we go

next yet, so where to after our picks to click?

Oh wait, do we do three? Yeah, we got three to

do. What? I only did two. No, there's three.

Fuuuck. I'm looking at the wrong sheet. Go ahead,

Matt, what's your third one? Oh wait, no, I already

said Happy Death Day. Mountain Between Us. The

Mountain Between Us, it's just Elbra, kind of

like The Edge, kind of like The Grey, which both

had, you know, 20 million dollar budgets and

made 50 million, so like, you know. It's not

Thor Ragnarok, but it'll probably make me a boy.

Alright, fair enough. Dan, what do you have as

your third one? I wasn't sure about this one

because I couldn't find a budget on it, but I

feel like American Sniper did really well. It's

also from the people who did Mold and Survivor

that did really well. So I'm going to say thank

you for your service. do quite well be a pick

to click uh i don't know if i'll do as well as

them but it doesn't seem like it's moving with

a very high high budget so i think it'll certainly

make its budget back once that gets released

all right amanda uh justice lake Alright, Justice

League. Take it. Take it. I'm gonna go crazy

here. I'm gonna say my other pick to click will

be My Little Pony the movie. That can't have

a budget more than like $10 million, right? Like

it has to be like $5 million. It's actually $200

million. And I'm pretty sure that every My Little

Pony fan is probably going to see that like 10

times. So even if there's not a billion of them,

they're going to make it seem like it was. So

I don't know if there's any more rabid fan base

than My Little Pony. So I think that movie at

least has to make its budget back. All right.

That is all the picks to click. So Dan, where

do you want to go after that? Sorry, let's go

bet the bomb. OK. Bet the bomb, Dan. You're up

first. Well, not to disagree with Amanda, but

I'm thinking murder on Orient Express will actually

be a bet the bomb. Just because I wonder if,

like, I don't know how much excitement there

is for that original property. I feel like Johnny

Demps. It is kind of on his last leg. The last

Pirates movie didn't do very well. And I feel

like with that cast, it probably has a really

high budget. So I just wonder if that will really

strike a chord with people, so I don't think

it'll make its budget back. So I'm going with

Murder on an Orient Express. I hope I'm wrong

but I'm gonna say the same thing just because

the number of stars they have is gotta make that

budget fairly high even if it's not gonna take

a ton of like on the special effects or different

stuff like that so I was kind of looking at Magnificent

7 trying to compare it to some other you know

classics remade or whatnot so I want it to be

a good film but I'm gonna say I'm regarding the

Ordinary Express is not gonna have as much of

a fan base as I would like it to. Matt, first

bit to file. Oh, Geostorm, because it looks bad

and it also disasters. Yes, I have no comment

because I just feel dumber. I feel less and less

good about that pic every second that goes by.

You're going to throw it in everyone's face if

you're right though. Amanda, what's your first

bet to mom? Want to say Geostorm? Yeah. Dan,

is that your second one? No, I have that someplace

else, but I kind of wish I did put it there.

My next one is Death Wish with Bruce Willis.

I couldn't find a budget on this, but I just

feel like it's coming out. I think it's a movie

the world's just not going to want right now.

And Eli Roth films just tend not to do very well.

A lot of them don't even get released in theaters.

There's a lot of controversy with the trailer

so I and it's coming out during Christmastime

and I know if like that's really a movie that's

really gonna people gonna go and see so I could

be way off Which will assist me least can go

to different ways, but I just have a feeling

it's not gonna do very well, so I won't death

wish Interesting. I didn't know what to think

of Death Wish, so I didn't put it anywhere. I

actually went with my second bet to bomb being

Jumanji, hoping that Dan's wrong and that it

does still get released in December some point,

but I don't know. The rock is kind of hard to,

I mean, Baywatch tanked, so maybe he's on kind

of a little bad patch, and I just don't know

how many people are just clamoring for Jumanji.

Except for maybe Amanda. I really think it looks

funny. So I don't know. I'm going with Jumanji

to bomb because I'm thinking that's gonna have

a pretty high budget too because they're doing

a lot of crazy stuff. So Matt, what's your second

bet to bomb? Oh man, this might be my risky,

my geostorm as it were. The star? This weird

like Christian animated movie? The animated films

this year. it's it's from the point of view of

like a camel or something and like the trailer

was really weird and like here's the thing there

are some fun Christian properties there's some

good ones but this one's somewhere in the like

hey we had the same budget as food fight I mean

when you if you put like leap and Ferdinand and

the star and a few that have already come out

like it's like Did everybody's take the year

off for animated films outside of like the big

big studios? I don't know Amanda. What's your

next bet to bomb? I'm sorry old man Jackie Chan,

but the foreigner No money. I'm worried about

that. Okay fair enough Dan one more pick for

bet to bomb what you got I'm gonna go with The

Greatest Showman. Similar long lines of Orient

Express. It looks like it's a very expensive

film. I couldn't find the budget on it, but it

just looks like production -wise. It costs a

lot of money, and I don't... The trailer's out,

but I see no talk about it. Maybe if you jack

me, there will be more buzz when we get closer

to it, but again, I just... I don't know if it's

a type of movie that's really going to get a

lot of people. Like it's an old... Period piece

a very movie of a pastime that I wonder if like

will Work with audiences today, so I can be way

off But it was really hard to find some some

movies or Beth's bomb. So just trying to think

I don't think people will go see that so Did

you see the trailer? I did Is Hugh Jackman just

born to be in those types of period pieces though

if he's not Wolverine like I just feel like he's

like I think it'll be great in it like I like

I don't like It's not I think it might be even

a good movie, but I just wonder if people will

write it right actually We will see it actually

I did the one of those surveys at the mall thing

where I had to watch all these trailers and Like

everyone that they've like done so far movies

and didn't do really well and that was on it

So it made me think that they're worried about

it so That was part of my my guess as well. So

we'll see gotcha. I met you got one bomb left

Oh, I'm sure I do. And that's Bad Mom's Christmas,

because that movie doesn't look good. I mean,

are you sad about that? I don't know, I don't

know how I feel about it. Like, Bad Moms is a

good movie, but like Bad Moms Christmas, it's

just gonna be the same thing, which is like more

ridiculous holiday shit. So if you get down on

the first one, definitely get down on this one.

What's your other bomb pick? Mine is also The

Greatest Showman. Don't think people are gonna

go see it? I just think there's gonna be so much

other stuff coming out that might just be overshadowed.

Be a big time of the year back in December. And

I just saw like a preview just the other day.

Like I had no idea about this movie, so. I'm

gonna go with the pick that most people would

probably shake their head at, but, uh, I saw

the budget of this film, and I think, even if

it's a good film and does well, I don't know

if it's gonna make its budget back. I went with

Blade Runner 2049 as my other bet to bomb. Um,

its budget is 185 million. Whoa. So, I mean,

if it beats that, that means it's gonna be in

the 200 million mark, which means it's gonna

be in, like, the top 10 of the year. Um... I

don't see it do... Go ahead. The first - the

first one didn't do well, right? Like, it became

a hit later. Right. Yeah, it was - it was - it

was a notable bomb that, you know, it's got -

got appreciation, especially after the different,

like, you know, director traditions and things

like that, so. I mean, I'm still hoping it's

a good film, and you know, I do think there's

people that like some of the actors involved

and are interested in kind of, you know, in the

same way that people were interested in Mad Max

or different stuff that was kind of coming back

up, but I just can't see it making 185 million.

Like, I think maybe 150 would be about as much

as it could hope for, 160, something like that,

so I hope I'm wrong, but I was stretching for

another bomb, so I went with Blade Runner 2049

for this one. Let's go ahead and do our wild

card for our box office. Mine is one of the films

that has already been mentioned, which is Thank

You for Your Service. I think Thank You for Your

Service is going to make more than Last Flag

Flying. So I went with kind of two somewhat patriotic

films, one from Richard Linklater and then obviously

Thank You for Your Service starring Miles Teller.

I think Miles Teller is going to make more than

Linklater on that patriotic front during these

couple months. Dan, what do you got for your

wild card box office? I've been going for a few

things. I was trying to figure out, you know,

what, try not to double up on a few different

movies. So I was looking, like, do I go Justice

League or Thor? And I felt like that was, I don't

know, not 100 % loving it. So I was going to

go with, I haven't talked about yet, which is

one that you brought up with. Blade Runner and

I'm gonna say that Blade Runner 2049 will make

more money than that of Why did I forget its

name the movie that came out last year that I

directed Are you talking about arrival Yeah,

sorry. I was gonna say that Blade Runner 2049

will make more money than Arrival. Interesting,

putting the director's own films against each

other. I like it. I'm hoping, what did Arrival

make last year? Does anybody know that? It was

over a hundred million. It'd be interesting to

where that would put it. I'm thinking it maybe

made a hundred and fifty. It was just at 100

million. Oh, just at 100. Okay. So Blade Runner

making more than that. So that still fits in

with mine. It can do that and not make 185. So

I like that. Amanda, what do you got for your

wild card? Um, all right. Confidence. Was I just

listening? Blade Runner 2049 will gross more

at the box office in its opening weekend than

the original Blade Runner made in the Lifetime

domestic groups. Wow. Do you know what that number

is? It's like 32 ,000, or 32 million. 32 ,000.

You got it. You got it. I mean, it's more zeroes.

So more in its opening weekend than the other

one we made in its entire run. I like it. Interesting

pick. Matt, what do you got? Everyone has cool

ones, and then I did one. Here's what's great

about mine is I was like, hey, Thor 3 will do

better than the other Thors. And then Dan's like,

I'm just going to throw that on top of mine for

no reason. Like, thanks, Dan. At least you're

in agreement. Yeah, because that one looks really

good. And the first two Thors were kind of meh.

All right. So Thor 3 being the big money box

office winner out of the franchise. I like it.

All right, Amanda, back to you. Where do you

want to go, fresh or rotten? Well, let's do fresh.

Alright, what's going to be fresh? Thank you

for your service. Miles Teller? Yes. Bringing

in the ratings? Yes. Alright, any reason in particular?

Do people like them patriotic films? I mean,

I want to cry. You're going to cry? So... Alright.

Damn, what do you got being fresh? Well, my favorite

movie last year was The Lobster, so I'm hoping,

you know, a Logos Llamas the most can do it again

with the killing of a sacred deer, so I'm gonna

say that'll be fresh. Excellent, excellent. I

was tempted to go that route, but I just, I had

a couple other that I wanted to throw in there,

one of which was Wonderstruck. times as uh...

a pretty good track record when it comes to fresh

film so i'm gonna say he continues out of wonder

struck uh... mat what do you got uh... any uh...

have murder of the orient express because i don't

know how much money is going to make but it looks

fun uh... race and we're going to express by

this way and all kinds of different uh... areas

and prediction path today amanda Back to you,

another fresh pick. I'm gonna go with The Mountain

Between Us. The Mountain Between Us, think it's

gonna resonate? Paul Idris? Yeah. Alright, Dan,

what do you got for your second one? I'm gonna

go with Molly's Game, Aaron Sorkin's directorial

debut. I'm hoping it was one of my most anticipated

films. I'm hoping it will pull through as well.

I like the trailer, so... Alright, yeah, I'm

interested in that one as well. I think for my

next one I'm gonna go with the snowman because

fastbender. That's also my better pick. Me too.

Alright, so a lot of love for the snowman. Dan,

or not Dan, Matt, I know you gave that one, but

you have another, you have a third one, right?

Yeah, which I don't think has been said yet,

which is goodbye Christopher Robin. That looks

like Oscar Beatty. Yeah, I thought that one has

an interesting look to it as well. I'm just not

quite... I don't know how it's going to resonate,

but I'm very interested in the film, so I'm intrigued

on how that one does. Dan, you have a third pick

as well for Fresh. I'm going to go with the Shape

of Water. I'm hoping Gilmore Del Toro pulls it

out. It's getting... I hear a lot of good buzz

about it. I don't know for sure. I'm not seeing...

I haven't read any reviews, but I've heard some...

saw some Twitter... Twitter noise as they say,

so I'm hoping that's true. Excellent. For my

third one, I'm going to go with the longest title

on the list. I'm going to go with Three Billboards

Outside of Ebbing, Missouri because it was on

my most anticipated list at the beginning of

the year and now it's finally getting to the

point where it's going to come out and I think

it's the right type of film to get some good

ratings, good critiques there. Amanda, what else

do you got? I gave you mine. All three? Yeah.

What were they all? Thank you for your service,

the mountain between us and the snowmen. Oh,

excellent. That is three. Why don't you keep

going then with some rotten pick? Uh, I'm gonna

go with Jumanji. Jumanji not resonating, huh?

I'm a little worried. You're worried? I don't

think it's gonna be that great. Alright. Dan,

what's your first rotten pick? I'm gonna go with

Geostorm. It looks awful. I saved it for rotten.

Excellent. Matt, what's your first rotten pick?

Oh dude, that Madea boo too. I mean seriously

like here's the thing like I don't know Medea

movies I think make money, but they don't get

well reviewed I'm surprised that nobody picked

that for any of their picks to click actually

I was I have it for a rotten as well so okay

gotcha used it up for the rotten pick for my

first rotten pick I'm gonna go with Polaroid

because that shit looks stupid And there's a

lot of horror films coming out that are probably

going to make some money that are not going to

get reviewed well. And I think even though a

bunch of them will probably be in that 30 to

50 percent range, I think Polaroid is going to

be in that like 8 to 12 percent range. So Polaroid

would be my first pick. Amanda, what else you

got being around? Jigsaw. Jigsaw, huh? Yes. I

don't care if it's Halloween. No, I also have

that because the Saw movies have gone from like

50 percent down to like eight. I'll go with A

Bad Mom's Christmas. I actually kind of enjoyed

the first one, but this one legitimately was

fast -tracked. Think about that movie just came

out last year and there was no sign, like, indication

of a sequel, but it did surprisingly well. So

they just kind of went, let's see, a sequel really

quickly. So that usually does not bode well for

a comedy, for a movie to come out. be made within

that short period of time. So it feels like they're

just trying to... hash in as quickly as I can

with it. So I'm guessing it's going to be awful.

And especially when a movie goes to the Christmas

angle, usually not a good sign. So I'm going

to say it's not going to be good and go with

Bad Mom's Christmas. And for all those reasons,

I'm going to go with it as well. Also, I think

the first one only scored like a 30 -something

percent. So most sequels in that type of realm

usually go down from the first one. So if the

first one's at 30, this one should be able to

get under 25. I'm with you on that one. Matt,

do you have a rotten pickle left or did you give

them all out? I still got one left. What is it?

The rottenest Justice League. Dang, dude. I was

wondering if it was going to come up. Bogus.

You are bogus, sir. Throw in one more stone at

DC. That movie looks bogus. No. Amanda, do you

have any rotten picks left or did you give them

all? Suburbicon. Suburbicon? Not a big fan of

the Matt Damon, George Clooney, Coen Brothers?

No, I just thought it was stupid. I'll probably

see it, but I didn't like, like Hale Caesar.

If it's like anything like that, like I fell

asleep. I just... A lot of people like Hale Caesar.

It just wasn't for me. It wasn't for me, bro.

Alright. This is not about you, this is about

Rotten Tomatoes. This is about me right now because

these are my predations. Okay. For my other Rotten

pick, I will go with Daddy's Home 2. For the

same reason I went with Bad Mom's Christmas.

It's a sequel, the first one didn't score very

well, and I don't think people are still real

keen on giving Mel Gibson great reviews. So,

Daddy's Home 2 and Bad Mom's Christmas are the

double. comedy sequel of Downfall. I really wanted

to go with Happy Death Day though, because that

movie just straight up pissed me off. How many

films this year are we gonna get that are rehashing

the Groundhog Day scenario, the time loop thing,

in like a horror element? Because we literally

already had one or two of these this year. So

I don't quite like, when they made this film

and then they were marketing it and whatnot,

when they saw, Like, what was the other one called?

Before I Fall. Before I Fall. Like when they

saw that one come out, did they say shit? Did

they beat us to it? I don't know. I saw this

preview and I was just openly angry. But I did

not put it. I went with Bad Mom's Christmas and

Daddy's Home 2. Dan, did you give all yours?

I did. Alright, so everybody's gotten all the

rotten pics out of the way. I didn't miss anybody.

Yep. Alright. One film we haven't talked about

yet. So let's do it now. There's a little...

known film coming out in December called Star

Wars The Last Jedi. Let's see if we can somehow

figure out what it's gonna make and what it's

gonna score at Rotten Tomatoes. Matt, you are

killing. the featured movies in the last couple

months because you got the Rotten Tomatoes right

for Transformers The Last Knight, you got the

Rotten Tomatoes right for the Emoji Movie, and

you got the Box Office right for the Emoji Movie.

So, what's your secret? Do you think this is

your realm to score points or what? No, I just

dunked on some terrible movies. I think it's

only fair that you go first then for this one.

So do you want to do your box office or your

Rotten Tomatoes? You'll go first on one and last

on the other. Oh, man. I'm going to go with the

box office because I think that's more likely

to tie up with someone and I want to get that

number because I feel more comfortable with that

one, which is 850. That's how many millions of

dollars I think it's gonna make. I think it's

gonna be a little bit less than The Force Awakens

because, I mean, Episode 2 didn't make what The

Phantom Menace made, and I think though Luke

Skywalker talking in this one is probably gonna

be a big draw, I know that there was a lot of

hate about, like, there being female and ethnic

people in Star Wars all of a sudden. Um, and

so I think there might be people that don't go

and view the second sequel because they're closed

-minded and terrible so 850 million for matt

amanda I have 800 million 800 so a little less

Both in the 800 range though. Dan. Are you sticking

somewhere in that realm going higher going lower?

Yeah, I I figure it was going to be less than

the original because I typically have how these

go So I want to go 800 80 million All right,

so the high a little bit higher than both Amanda

and Matt All right I guess I'm the only one thinking

this this way and that makes me feel like I'm

wrong, but I Feel like there's gonna be more

I didn't there was a ton of buzz for this one

but with how successful it was and how many people

went and saw it and The tease of how it ended

with us not even getting really to see Luke yet

And the mystery behind Rey and just everything

that's been going on so far, I think it's gonna

beat The Force Awakens as crazy as that may sound.

So I had, I feel like it's stupid saying this

number, but I had one billion. Whoa. I hope.

You went to the B word? One billion. Is that

crazy or what? I don't think that's crazy or

anything. It's gotta happen. There's gonna be

a Star Wars movie that makes a billion. I just,

I don't know, maybe with the Rey and the Luke

and the, I don't know, billion dollars. Let's

go for it. I'll go crazy. Alright, so let's go,

um, in reverse order then for Rotten Tomatoes.

I have no idea where to go for this one, but

I'm sticking around at the 85%. That's my number,

85 % for The Last Jedi. Dan, what do you got?

I will go 90. 90? I like it. Amanda, what do

you got? 86. Oh, I don't like it. Why are you

going one more than me? Oh, my paper. It's already

typed. Jerk face. All right, Matt, don't say

84, please. No, I actually had 88 and I feel

like that's too close to everyone else. So I'm

just going to fucking jump to 94. That puts it

one above, I believe, Force Awakens. If you would

have said what you said first, we would have

all been, what, within five points of each other.

Yeah. Alright, so apparently all of us... kind

of siding on the fact that it's going to be pretty

well reviewed. We'll have to wait and see if

that turns out or not. Before we close out today's

show though, let's take a look back at some of

the all the films that are kind of coming out

and there might have been some that you didn't

fit into a place in your predictions that you

might still be interested in. So Dan, let's start

with you. Any films, October, November, December,

what are you most looking forward to or do you

think it's going to be a good end of the year?

I think so. I think there's a lot to look forward

to. I mean, like they have the Steven Spielberg's

coming out with a film that we didn't talk about

regarding... I can't think of the name of it.

Man, my brain is just not working. thing movie

that I have hope for is downsizing just because

I love it like pretty much everything Alexander

Payne has done and I'm hoping that I didn't love

the trailer but I'm hoping that it will actually

turn out pretty good and then disaster artist

that looks like it'll be I almost went the disaster

artist will have a higher Rotten Tomatoes score

than the room but I figured that'd be cheating

so I didn't but I do I think that looks like

it When I heard they were doing that movie, I

thought, why would you do a movie about that?

But it actually looks like it might be good.

Amanda? I think I mentioned all the things I'm

looking forward to the most. Blade Runner, Thor,

Justice League, and the murder on the Orient

Express all seem pretty freaking cool to me.

Yeah, there's a lot that's coming out towards

the end of the year that I didn't put in my predictions

just because I wasn't sure if they were gonna

get pushed or wasn't sure if there was gonna

be enough time to actually grade some of them.

So obviously the Phantom Thread has a lot of

buzz but that's getting just a probably a limited

release at best. Towards the end of the year

that's the Daniel Day Lewis Paul Thomas Anderson

film. Some other interesting Christmas releases

with The Greatest Showman, The Post, and Bright.

I was just afraid to put any of those but I'm

intrigued by all of them. I think like we said

before Hugh Jackman might be great and the greatest

showman even if the movie doesn't do well or

the sad and the other. I'm intrigued by Murder

on the Ordering Express. I want to watch it just

because I've never... I'm unfamiliar with the

story so I'd like to see how it plays out. Matt

had mentioned Goodbye Christopher Robin. That

one's kind of interesting to me. Nobody picked

Wonder and I just kind of smelt Wonderstruck

in one time but those two seem like they could

have some potential and then... I'm kind of interested

to see what The Snowman, what Fastbenders bring

into that little horror slash thriller tale.

Matt, anything that's going to get you out to

the theater for those three months besides The

Last Jedi? Yeah, I'm going to see The Last Jedi

half a dozen times, though mostly in January

if I know my life at all. I do really want to

see The Disaster Artist. I read that. I don't

know what to call it, book, biography, autobiography?

Right. Novel. Whatever it is, because it's definitely

a questionable reality and stuff like that, where

it's one guy's take on another guy's life, which

is really weird. So like I want to see that and

the the three the three billboards, Missouri

Missouri one looks looks good, but there's probably

no way I'm gonna see that Oh, yeah, I forgot

about that one. That one's definitely what I'm

intrigued at as well So you guys will have to

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